>>> THIS IS JUST GOOD BUSINESS. >> COMMERCE SECRETARY GINA RAIMONDO IS A FAST-RISING STAR IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
ENFORCING LARGE PARTS OF OUR TOUGH CHINA TRADE POLICY, WHILE WORKING TO CREATE MILLIONS OF NEW JOBS HERE IN THE U.S.
>> WE ALLOWED MANUFACTURING IN THIS COUNTRY TO WITHER ON THE VINE IN SEARCH OF CHEAPER LABOR IN ASIA, CHEAPER CAPITAL IN
ASIA. AND HERE WE ARE. >>> PRETTY WELL HIDDEN, ISN'T IT?
>> IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET HERE, YOU WOULDN'T EASILY STUMBLE ACROSS IT. >> ON THE WIND-SWEPT ISLAND OF
ALDERNEY, THE NAZIS OPERATED CONCENTRATION CAMPS ON BRITISH SOIL. DECADES LATER, THE BRITISH
GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE KILLED HERE. >> WHY MIGHT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT HAVE TRIED TO COVER
UP WHAT HAPPENED ON THE CHANNEL ISLANDS? >> THE WORLD IS FULL OF GREAT COMEDIANS.
>>> KEVIN HART IS A GREAT COMEDIAN. A MOVIE STAR, AND, AS YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT, A BUDDING TYCOON.
>> CHEERS. >> ARE YOU A BILLIONAIRE YET? >> NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, MAN. ARE YOU TRYING TO GET ME ROBBED?
TRYING TO GET ME KNOCKED IN THE HEAD? >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES."
>>> WHAT DOES A SECRETARY OF COMMERCE DO? UNTIL NOW, MAINLY PROMOTE U.S. BUSINESSES ABROAD.
IT HAD NOT BEEN A HIGH-PROFILE JOB, UNTIL GINA RAIMONDO TURNED THE SECOND TIER AGENCY INTO A CENTER OF JOB CREATION,
MANUFACTURING, AND NATIONAL SECURITY. ONCE THE GOVERNOR OF RHODE ISLAND, RAIMONDO, AT 52, SEEMS
TO HAVE COME OUT OF NOWHERE TO BECOME A RISING STAR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
AS COMMERCE SECRETARY, SHE'S RUNNING NEW PROJECTS THAT COULD TOUCH THE LIVES OF EVERY AMERICAN.
AND SHE'S HELPING LEAD THE EXPANDING COLD WAR WITH CHINA AND CONFRONT RUSSIA'S AGGRESSION IN UKRAINE.
THE BATTLEFIELD FOR BOTH THOSE CONFLICTS IS TECHNOLOGY. >> IF YOU THINK ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY TODAY, IN 2024, IT'S
NOT JUST TANKS AND MISSILES. IT'S TECHNOLOGY. IT'S SEMICONDUCTORS. IT'S A.I.
IT'S DRONES. AND THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT IS AT THE RED HOT CENTER OF TECHNOLOGY.
>> AND AT THE RED HOT CENTER, A GLOBAL CHIP WAR THAT RAMPED UP, SAYS GINA RAIMONDO, WHEN RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINE.
>> THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT STOPPED ALL SEMICONDUCTOR CHIPS FROM BEING SOLD TO RUSSIA. EVERY DRONE, EVERY MISSILE,
EVERY TANK HAS SEMICONDUCTORS IN THEM. AND YOU KNOW, LESLEY, YOU KNOW WE'RE BEING EFFECTIVE BECAUSE
SHORTLY AFTER WE STARTED THAT WORK, WE HEARD STORIES OF THE RUSSIANS TAKING SEMICONDUCTORS OUT OF REFRIGERATORS, OUT OF
DISHWASHERS. >> WHAT? >> OUT OF BREAST PUMPS, GETTING THE CHIPS TO PUT THEM INTO THEIR
MILITARY EQUIPMENT. >> HOWEVER, THE RUSSIANS ARE NOW WORKING THEIR WAY AROUND THIS. >> THEY ARE.
>> SUCCESSFULLY. AND THEY'RE DOING BETTER IN THE WAR PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THIS. >> YOU ARE RIGHT IN WHAT YOU
SAY. >> BUT, SHE SAYS -- >> IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE CASE THAT OUR EXPORT CONTROLS HAVE HURT
THEIR ABILITY TO CONDUCT THE WAR, MADE IT HARDER. AND WE ARE ENFORCING THIS EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY, DOING
EVERYTHING WE CAN. >> THESE ARE SOME OF THE ENFORCERS. >> PUSHED TO TALK ABOUT OUR
CONTROLS OF RUSSIA. >> -- FROM SELLING PRODUCTS WITH AMERICAN CHIPS IN THEM TO RUSSIA.
BUT NOT JUST RUSSIA. >> I'VE MADE SURE THAT THE MOST ADVANCED AMERICAN TECHNOLOGIES CAN'T BE USED IN CHINA.
>> THE CHINESE WARN THAT THESE EXPORT CONTROLS COULD TRIGGER AN ESCALATING TRADE WAR. >> TRADE WITH CHINA ACCOUNTS FOR
750,000 U.S. JOBS. AND IF TRADE ENDS, WE LOSE THOSE JOBS. >> WE WANT TO TRADE WITH CHINA
ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF GOODS AND SERVICES. BUT ON THOSE TECHNOLOGIES THAT AFFECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY,
NO. >> THOSE ADVANCED CHIPS ARE IN CONSUMER GOODS. BANKS USE THEM, HOSPITALS.
THIS IS GOING TOWARD PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE FOR CIVILIAN USE. >> WELL, THEY ALSO GO INTO NUCLEAR WEAPONS, SURVEILLANCE
SYSTEMS. AND WE KNOW THEY WANT THESE CHIPS AND OUR SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY TO ADVANCE THEIR
MILITARY. >> HER TOUGHNESS HAS MADE HER A TARGET IN CHINA, WHERE FAKE ADS HAVE HER PROMOTING THE NEW
CHINESE-MADE SMART PHONO. LAST YEAR, THE GOVERNMENT IN BEIJING HAACKED BEIJING HACKED HER EMAIL.
AND WHEN SHE WAS IN CHINA, IRONICALLY ON A TRIP TO IMPROVE RELATIONS, THE TECH COMPANY, HUAWEI, INTRODUCED THAT
SMARTPHONE WITH AN ADVANCED CHINESE-MADE CHIP. >> IT WAS, KIND OF, IN YOUR FACE, AS IF TO SAY, LOOK AT THE
CHIP THAT WE HAVE. AND IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD, HIGH-LEVEL CHIP. >> WELL, I HAVE THEIR ATTENTION,
CLEARLY. >> AND THEY'VE GOTTEN YOURS. >> WELL, IT TELLS ME THE EXPORT CONTROLS ARE WORKING BECAUSE
THAT CHIP IS NOT NEARLY AS GOOD. IT'S YEARS BEHIND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE THE MOST SOPHISTICATED
SEMICONDUCTORS IN THE WORLD. CHINA DOESN'T. WE'VE OUT-INNOVATED CHINA. >> WELL, WE, YOU MEAN TAIWAN.
>> FAIR. >> WHILE AMERICAN TECH COMPANIES DESIGN THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED CHIPS, NONE ARE ACTUALLY MADE IN
THE U.S. 90% OF THEM COME FROM TAIWAN, AND THEY ARE KEY TO THE FUTURE OF U.S. MILITARY WEAPONRY.
>> AND CHINA, FROM TIME TO TIME, THREATENS, YOU KNOW, THE WOLF TO INVADE TAIWAN. AND SOME PEOPLE SAY THE WHOLE
REASON IS TO GET THEIR HANDS ON THOSE CHIPS. >> THAT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S A RISK.
IT MAKES US ASVULNERABLE. >> THE PROBLEM GOES WAY BEYOND HIGH-TECH. WITH MILLIONS OF AMERICAN
WORKERS HAVING LOST THEIR JOBS THAT WENT OVERSEAS, SOMETHING RAIMONDO KNOWS FIRST HAND, GROWING UP AS THE YOUNGEST CHILD
IN AN ITALIAN AMERICAN FAMILY IN RHODE ISLAND. >> THIS IS THE OLD BULOVA WATCH FACTORY, WHERE MY DAD WORKED FOR
30 YEARS. >> HER DAD LOST HIS JOB WHEN BULOVA ABANDONED THE FACTORY IN 1983 AND MOVED ITS OPERATIONS IN
CHINA. >> IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO IMAGINE IT NOW AS YOU LOOK AROUND HERE, BUT THIS WAS A BUSTLING PLACE.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD 1,000 PEOPLE WORKING HERE, FOOD TRUCKS ON THE SIDEWALK, AN ELECTRIC SHOP DYE THERE, A TOOL AND DYE SHOP
THERE. AND NOW THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE. >> AND HOW OLD WERE YOU? >> I WAS IN, LIKE, SIXTH GRADE.
BUT I SAW THE TOLL IT TOOK ON MY DAD AND MY FAMILY. >> AND THAT INFLUENCED HER CAREER CHOICES.
FROM WHEN SHE STUDIED ECONOMICS AND PLAYED RUGBY AT HARVARD -- >> SO, THIS IS MY OFFICE. >> -- TO WHEN SHE LEFT A
HIGH-PAYING JOB AS A VENTURE CAPITALIST TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE IN RHODE ISLAND. >> THIS WAS THE DAY THAT I WAS
SWORN IN AS STATE TREASURER. AND THOSE ARE MY PARENTS. THAT'S MY DAD. >> THAT'S YOUR DAD?
>> SUPER PROUD OF ME. >> THE MAN WHO WORKED AT BULOVA. >> THE MAN WHO WORKED AT BULOVA, THE MAN WHO TAUGHT ME ABOUT
MANUFACTURING, TAUGHT ME YOUR JOB IS ABOUT YOUR PRIDE, ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF A FAMILY, NOT JUST A PAYCHECK.
>> MARRIED WITH TWO CHILDREN, RAIMONDO, A YALE LAW SCHOOL GRADUATE, WAS ELECTED THE STATE'S FIRST FEMALE GOVERNOR IN
2014 AS A MODERATE, PRO-BUSINESS DEMOCRAT. >> LIBERALS IN YOUR PARTY, THIS IS A QUOTE, LOOK UPON YOU AS A
SELL-OUT TO BIG BUSINESS. >> I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS. I HOLD BUSINESSES ACCOUNTABLE AS MUCH AS ANYONE.
WHEN I TELL THEM THEY CAN'T SELL THEIR SEMICONDUCTORS TO CHINA, THEY DON'T LOVE THAT, BUT I DO THAT.
>> IN LATE 2020, PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN CALLED HER ABOUT LEADING THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT, WHICH UNTIL THEN, MANAGED
WITHOUT MUCH FANFARE AND HEADLINES, A MISHMASH OF AGENCIES AND ASSIGNMENTS, RANGING FROM MONITORING THE
WEATHER TO MEASURING THE LEVEL OF CONTAMINANTS IN HOUSEHOLD DUST. >> SO, ONE DAY PRESIDENT-ELECT
BIDEN CALLS YOU AND SAID, WHAT ABOUT BEING COMMERCE SECRETARY? AND YOU HEARD THAT AND THOUGHT? >> TRUTHFULLY, INITIALLY I
THOUGHT, WHAT DOES THE COMMERCE SECRETARY DO? >> YEAH. >> AND THEN THE PRESIDENT-ELECT
SAID TO ME, COME, I WANT YOU TO WORK WITH ME TO HELP REBUILD AMERICAN MANUFACTURING. AND I CALLED MY BROTHER, MY BIG
BROTHER, AND HE SAID, GINA, DAD WOULD BE SO PROUD. YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT. YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT.
AND THAT WAS IT. >> ONCE AT COMMERCE, SHE BEGAN TO LEAN ON CONGRESS. >> THIS IS JUST GOOD BUSINESS.
$100 BILLION, INCLUDING 50 BILLION FOR THE BIPARTISAN CHIPS ACT THAT SHE IS NOW DISPENSING TO REDUCE AMERICA'S RELIANCE ON
TAIWAN. >> IT'S A HUGE DAY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. >> LAST MONTH IN ARIZONA, SHE
ANNOUNCED HER FIRST AWARD FOR MAKING LEADING EDGE CHIPS IN THE U.S. TO INTEL. >> WE ARE ANNOUNCING OUR
INTENTION TO INVEST $8.5 BILLION IN INTEL, AMERICA'S CHAMPION SEMICONDUCTOR COMPANY. >> INTEL INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT
AND MODERNIZE FACILITIES IN ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO, OREGON, AND OHIO. SHE'S MADE TWO OTHER BIG AWARDS,
TOTALING $13 BILLION, TO TAIWAN-BASED TSMC, AND THE SOUTH KOREAN COMPANY, SAMSUNG, TO MAKE THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED CHIPS
IN ARIZONA AND TEXAS. RAIMONDO IS ALSO SPREADING HER -- ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY WITH ANOTHER HUGE INITIATIVE,
THE INTERNET FOR ALL PROGRAM. WE WENT WITH HER TO A CORNING FACTORY IN NORTH CAROLINA, THE WORLD'S LARGEST MANUFACTURER OF
FIBEROPTIC TABLE. >> YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIBER ON THESE SPOOLS, ALL DIFFERENT COLORS.
WHAT'S INSIDE OF THERE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST PRECISE PRODUCTS EVER MANUFACTURED BY MAN.
>> WENDELL WEEKS, CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF CORNING, IS EXPANDING PRODUCTION TO SOME OF THE 10 MILLION MILES OF NEW CABLE
THAT'S NEEDED TO CONNECT THE 24 MILLION AMERICANS LIVING MOSTLY IN RURAL AMERICA, WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH-SPEED INTERNET.
AND UNDERPRODDING BY RAIMONDO, HE'S INVESTING CORNING'S OWN CAPITAL TO DO IT. >> WE INVESTED ANOTHER HALF
BILLION DOLLARS AND DOUBLED OUR FOOTPRINT FOR THE U.S. >> WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY TO CONNECT, YOU KNOW,
SMALL NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, WHO LIVES MILE AWAY, THE EXPENSE ALMOST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. >> IT DOES MAKE SENSE.
THE INTERNET IS NO LONGER A LUXURY. YOU NEED IT TO SEE THE DOCTOR, TO GO TO SCHOOL, TO DO YOUR
BUSINESS, TO PAY YOUR BILLS, TO SIGN UP FOR, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY. EVERYONE HAS ELECTRICITY IN THIS
COUNTRY. EVERYONE OUGHT TO HAVE THE INTERNET. >> TOGETHER, SHE SAYS, THE
INTERNET FOR ALL AND THE CHIPS ACT INITIATIVES WILL CREATE ABOUT A HALF MILLION JOBS BY 2030.
BUT WALL STREET IS SKEPTICAL. INTEL, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST REPORTED $7 BILLION IN OPERATING LOSSES.
>> WHEN YOU GO TO PICK THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES TO GIVE THE MONEY TO, IT'S SOCIAL/INDUSTRIAL POLICY, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE
GAVE UP BECAUSE IT WAS SHOWN THAT PRIVATE INDUSTRY DOES A BETTER JOB PICKING. YOU'RE SMILING.
>> WELL, DO THEY? BECAUSE IN THE CASE OF SEMICONDUCTORS, THE MARKET DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT.
>> HOW DID WE LOSE THIS? >> WE ALLOWED MANUFACTURING IN THIS COUNTRY TO WITHER ON THE VINE IN SEARCH OF CHEAPER LABOR
IN ASIA, CHEAPER CAPITAL IN ASIA. AND HERE WE ARE. WE JUST PURSUED PROFIT OVER
NATIONAL SECURITY. >> THERE ARE STRINGS ATTACHED TO THESE GRANTS. THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE DAYCARE.
YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A DIVERSE WORKFORCE. THE UNION MARKERS? >> THAT IS NOT SOCIAL POLICY,
LESLEY. >> SOUNDS LIKE IT. >> IT'S MATH. THIS IS PURE MATH.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> YOU WON'T HAVE ENOUGH WORKERS TO DO THE JOB UNLESS YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET WOMEN WORKING IN
THE FACILITIES. >> BUT ON THAT POINT, IF THEY NEED WOMEN AND WOMEN NEED DAYCARE, THAT'S A DECISION FOR
THE COMPANY TO MAKE. WHY MANDATE IT IF IT'S WHAT THEY NEED? >> IT'S NOT MANDATED.
TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE NOT MANDATES. >> BUT IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE. >> IT IS WRITTEN.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY? I NEVER HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS FROM THE COMPANIES. THE ONLY COMPLAINTS I HAVE ARE
FROM POLITICIANS. >> IN HER THREE YEARS IN WASHINGTON, RAIMONDO HAS ELEVATED THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT
AND ITS SECRETARY INTO A HIGH-PROFILE PLAYER. >> CHINA WAKES UP EVERY DAY FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET AROUND
OUR REGULATIONS. WE'VE GOT TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY THAT MUCH MORE RELENTLESS AND AGGRESSIVE.
SO, I BRING IT EVERY DAY. >> SO, HERE COMES THE INEVITABLE, OBVIOUS QUESTION THAT YOU KNOW IS COMING YOUR
WAY. YOU ARE ON A LIST OF FUTURE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO YOU?
IS IT APPETIZING? >> WHAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME IS BEING THE BEST COMMERCE SECRETARY THERE'S EVER BEEN.
>> ONE QUALIFICATION FOR HIGH OFFICE IS BEING ABLE TO DUCK A QUESTION LIKE THAT.
>>> NOW, HOLLY WILLIAMS ON ASSIGNMENT FOR "60 MINUTES." >> THE NAMES AUSCHWITZ, BURGIN BELSEN AND BUCHENWALD ARE
INFAMOUS AS THE SCENE OF ATROCITIES, CONCENTRATION CAMPS RAN BY ADOLF HITLER'S KNOW TORE SOUSE S.S.
WHAT YOU MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN IS TWO NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS WERE ESTABLISHED ON BRITISH SOIL IN THE CHANNEL
ISLANDS, AROUND 8:00 MILES FROM THE BRITISH MAINLAND. THE ISLANDS LIE JUST OFF THE COAST OF FRANCE, BECAME
POSSESSIONS OF THE ENGLISH CROWN AROUND 1,000 YEARS AGO, AND WERE OCCUPIED BY GERMANY FOR NEARLY FIVE YEARS DURING WORLD WAR II.
EVEN IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CAMPS. AND AS WE DISCOVERED, EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED THERE IS HOTLY DISPUTED. >> PRETTY WELL HIDDEN, ISN'T IT? >> WELL, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW
TO GET HERE, YOU WOULDN'T EASILY STUMBLE ACROSS IT. THIS WAS A, SORT OF, BACK ENTRANCE.
>> THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT OF THIS THIRD REICH'S LAGER SYLT CONCENTRATION CAMP. ON THE WIND SWEPT ISLAND OF
ALDERNEY, ABOUT THREE MILES LONG AND ONE AND A HALF WIDE, NATURE IS GRADUALLY SWALLOWING UP ITS CRUMBLING CONCRETE WALLS.
>> THESE TAKE YOU STRAIGHT INTO THE CAMP. >> MARCUS ROBERTS IS AN OXFORD-EDUCATED AMATEUR
HISTORIAN WHO RUNS HERITAGE TOURS. HE SPENT YEARS RESEARCHING THIS FORGOTTEN CHAPTER IN BRITISH
HISTORY. >> SO, UNDOUBTEDLY, IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A PIN ON THE MAP, YOU COULD SAY, THIS IS WHERE THE
HOLOCAUST HAPPENED ON BRITISH SOVEREIGN TERRITORY. >> WHEN GERMANY INVADED FRANCE IN 1940, THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT
CALCULATED THAT THE CHANNEL ISLANDS HAD NO STRATEGIC VALUE AND GAVE THEM UP WITHOUT A FIGHT.
NEARLY ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF ALDERNEY DECIDED TO EVACUATE BEFORE THE GERMAN TROOPS ARRIVED.
ON THE EMPTY ISLAND, THE GERMANS SET UP TWO CONCENTRATION CAMPS AS WELL AS LABOR CAMPS. THEY BROUGHT IN PRISONERS OF WAR
AND FORCED LABORERS TO BUILD GIANT FORTIFICATIONS THAT STILL SURVIVE TODAY. PART OF HITLER'S ATLANTIC WALL
TO PROTECT AGAINST ALLIED ATTACK. A MINORITY OF THEM WERE JEWISH. OTHERS WERE FROM RUSSIA,
UKRAINE, POLAND, AND SPAIN. >> I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS CALLED THE TUNNEL OF DEATH. >> YES, IT WAS NOTORIOUS IN THE
MEMORY OF PRISONERS. ON TWO OCCASIONS, THEY WERE FORCED TO CRAM IN HERE IN AN APPARENT REHEARSAL FOR THEIR OWN
DEATH. >> AFTER THE WAR, IN 1945, THE BRITISH MILITARY INVESTIGATED THE CAMPS AND PUT THE DEATH TOLL
ON ALDERNEY IN THE LOW HUNDREDS. SOME OF THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES WERE BURIED UNDER THIS PLOT OF LAND.
BUT MARCUS ROBERTS AND OTHERS ARGUE THAT MORE THAN 10,000 MUST HAVE DIED ON THE ISLAND, BASED ON CONTROVERSIAL CALCULATIONS
ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE LABOR FORCE NEEDED TO BUILD THE FORTIFICATIONS. ROBERTS TOLD US IT'S BECAUSE
HE'S JEWISH THAT THEY'RE DETERMINED TO COUNT ALL OF THE DEAD. >> THERE'S THE JEWISH INSTINCT
TO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND. >> YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE JEWISH DEAD ARE
COUNTED. >> REMEMBERED. IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER A LIFE, IT'S AS IF THEY NEVER LIVED AT
ALL. >> MOST ACADEMICS DISPUTE ROBERTS' ESTIMATE OF THE DEATH TOLL.
BUT PARTLY AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISAGREEMENTS, LAST YEAR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT APPOINTED A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS TO COMB
THROUGH ARCHIVES ACROSS EUROPE AND MORE ACCURATELY COUNT THE NUMBER OF PRISONERS WHO DIED ON ALDERNEY.
DR. JULIE CARR, AN ARCHAEOLOGIST AT CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY, IS COORDINATING THE REVIEW. >> WHY IS THIS A DOCUMENT
SEARCH, NOT A DIG? >> IT IS LIKELY THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN MASS GRAVES WERE JEWISH.
AND ACCORDING TO HALAKHA, OR JEWISH LAW, YOU CANNOT DISTURB THE DEAD. BUT THE SECOND REASON IS THAT,
ACCORDING TO PRISONER STATEMENTS, SOME PEOPLE WERE DUMPED AT SEA OR THROWN OFF CLIFFS.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? DIG UP THE ENTIRE ISLAND? WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT. >> THE RESEARCHERS ARE DRAWING
ON RICH MATERIAL. THE NAZIS WERE METICULOUS RECORD KEEPERS. AND BRITISH ARCHIVES CONTAIN
FIRST-HAND TESTIMONIES FROM SURVIVORS. >> LOOK AT THIS. WE WERE BEATEN WITH EVERYTHING
THEY COULD LAY THEIR HANDS ON WITH STICKS, SPADES, PICK AXES. >> IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY GHASTLY. >> ON CERTAIN DAYS, FIVE TO SIX,
UP TO TEN MEN DIED. >> DR. CARR TOLD US THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT GAS CHAMBERS WERE USED ON ALDERNEY, BUT THERE WERE
SUMMARY EXECUTIONS. AND THE PRISONERS BUILT THE NAZI FORTIFICATIONS ON STARVATION RATIONS.
>> WERE THEY TAKEN TO ALDERNEY TO BE WORKED TO DEATH? >> THEY WERE CERTAINLY SEEN AS EXPENDABLE.
THE AIM WAS TO GET EVERY OUNCE OF WORK OUT OF THEM. AND IF THEY DIED, IT DIDN'T MATTER, AND THAT WAS KIND OF,
PERHAPS, EXPECTED. >> THEY WERE DISPOSABLE HUMAN BEINGS. >> YES, YES.
>> HOW DID YOUR FATHER END UP IN ALDERNEY? >> AT A PUB IN THE CHANNEL ISLANDS, WE MET GARY FONT.
HIS FATHER, FRANCISCO FRONT, FOUGHT ON THE LOSING SIDE IN THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR, WAS ARRESTED BY FRANCE, HANDED OVER TO THE
GERMANS, AND SENT TO A CONCENTRATION CAMP ON ALDERNEY. FRANCISCO SURVIVED AND LATER MARRIED A BRITISH WOMAN, GARY'S
MOTHER. >> HE WITNESSED THE EXECUTION OF A YOUNG SOVIET BOY, WHO DECIDED TO LEAVE THE WORKING DETAIL AND
TO CHANGE HIS FOOTWEAR. SO, HE STARTED TO PICK UP THESE PAPER BAGS AND WRAP THEM AROUND HIS FEET AND TIE THEM WITH
STRING. AN S.S. GUARD SAW HIM DO THIS AND WALKED UP TO HIM AND SHOT HIM POINT BLANK RANGE.
>> GARY TOLD US, HIS FATHER'S EXPERIENCES LEFT HIM SCARRED. >> I SAW THE EMOTION ON HIS FACE.
IT'S TOUGH. >> DO YOU THINK THAT EMOTION CAME FROM THAT HE HAD SURVIVED THE WAR IN SPAIN AND SURVIVED
THE CAMP HERE. >> IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I REALIZED, WOW, THIS MAN HAS A DEEP-ROOTED EMOTION INSIDE OF
HIM THAT HE CAN NEVER GET OUT. >> THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT'S EFFORT TO GET THE TRUTH OUT, BY RECOUNTING THE DEAD, WAS
COMMISSIONED BY LORD PICKLES. >> SIR ERIC PICKLES. >> A FORMER CABINET MINISTER AND NOW THE UK'S ENVOY FOR
POST-HOLOCAUST ISSUES. >> THE FIGURES VARY, NOT BY A FEW HUNDRED, NOT BY A FEW THOUSAND, BUT TENS OF THOUSANDS.
>> SO, IT WAS THE CONTROVERSY THAT PROMPTED YOU TO COMMISSION THE REVIEW. >> YES.
IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE SENSIBLE THING WAS, OKAY, LET'S DO THIS OUT IN THE OPEN. LET'S DO IT FULLY TRANSPARENT.
>> HE'S ALSO ASKED THE RESEARCHERS TO PUT NAMES TO AS MANY OF THOSE KILLED AS THEY CAN.
>> IF YOU REMEMBER THEM AS INDIVIDUALS, THEN IT'S ANOTHER BLOW AGAINST -- WANTED TO ERADICATE THE MEMORY OF PEOPLE.
>> SO, THIS IS, KIND OF, AN ONGOING FIGHT AGAINST HITLER AND HIS IDEAS. >> HITLER'S EVIL STILL CONTINUES
TO AFFECT EUROPE AND TO AFFECT THE WORLD. >> BUT IT'S TAKEN NEARLY 80 YEARS FOR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT
TO RE-EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENED ON ALDERNEY AND TO MAKE ITS REPORT PUBLIC. THE OFFICIAL BRITISH
INVESTIGATIONS IN 1945 WERE CLASSIFIED FOR DECADES. AND UNLIKE THE TRIALS OF NAZI OFFICIALS IN NUREMBERG, THE
BRITISH AUTHORITIES FAILED TO PROSECUTE A SINGLE GERMAN OFFICER WHO WORKED ON ALDERNEY. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE
POSSIBLE WAR CRIMINALS. THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT HAS GATHERED EVIDENCE AGAINST THEM, AND THEY ARE IN BRITISH CUSTODY.
>> YES, THEY ARE AT THIS POINT, YES. >> A SORT OF SLAM DUNK CASE. >> YOU'D HAVE THOUGHT.
>> THAT'S LED MARCUS ROBERTS AND OTHERS TO CLAIM THAT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT TRIED TO COVER UP THE EXTENT OF THE ATROCITIES ON
ALDERNEY. DR. CARR TOLD US THAT COULD BE TRUE. BUT ONE KEY DOCUMENT FROM THE
BRITISH WAR OFFICE INVESTIGATION THAT MAY EXPLAIN WHY THERE WERE NO PROSECUTIONS IS MISSING. >> IT COULD HAVE BEEN SHREDDED
DECADES AGO AS PART OF, WHAT DO WE NEED THESE FILES FOR ANYMORE? >> BUT COULD IT ALSO HAVE BEEN SHREDDED FOR MORE NEFARIOUS
PURPOSES? >> I HAVE NO IDEA. IN ORDER FOR ME TO SAY THERE WAS A COVER-UP, I WANT TO SEE THE
DECISIONS TAKEN. I WANT TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE STEPS AND TO MAKE UP MY OWN MIND.
>> WHY MIGHT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT HAVE TRIED TO COVER UP OR WHITEWASH WHAT HAPPENED ON ALDERNEY?
AND MAYBE MORE BROADLY ON THE CHANNEL ISLANDS? >> THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT MIGHT NOT -- THAT
THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE WANTED A WIDER AUDIENCE TO KNOW ABOUT. >> THOSE THINGS, ONCE FEARED TOO
TROUBLING FOR THE BROADER PUBLIC, HAPPENED ON THREE OF THE OTHER CHANNEL ISLANDS, WHERE MOST RESIDENTS DID NOT EVACUATE
BEFORE THE OCCUPATION. WHEN THE GERMANS ARRIVED, THE LOCALS MOSTLY COOPERATED, OFTEN WITH LITTLE CHOICE.
HITLER'S PORTRAIT WAS HUNG OUTSIDE THIS CINEMA ON THE ISLAND OF GUERNSEY. NAZI PROPAGANDA SHOWED THE
BRITISH POLICE WORKING FOR GERMAN TROOPS. AND BRITISH NEWSPAPERS ON THE ISLANDS PRINTED ORDERS FROM
BERLIN. >> THIS IS A BRITISH NEWSPAPER AND IT'S GOT A SWASTIKA ON TOP. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AT THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVES ON THE ISLAND, LINDA ROMERIL SHOWED US -- ASKING JEWISH RESIDENTS TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND THEN
CONFISCATING THEIR ASSETS. >> THERE WAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF REQUISITIONING OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES, PEOPLE'S PROPERTY,
DURING THE OCCUPATION PERIOD. >> BUT SOME RESISTED, RISKING PUNISHMENT TO PAINT ANTI-NAZI GRAFFITI AND ILLEGALLY LISTENING
TO BRITISH NEWS ON THE RADIO. >> THAT'S MY GREAT AUNT LOUISA. I SUSPECT THAT SHE WAS PROBABLY QUITE STEELY.
>> ONE REMEMBER OF THE RESISTANCE WAS LOUISA GOULD, WHO HID AN ESCAPED RUSSIAN PRISONER IN HER HOME FOR NEARLY TWO
YEARS. >> AND THIS IS THE HOUSE? >> YEP. >> JENNY LECOAT TOLD US, WHEN
HER GREAT AUNT LOUISA WAS FINALLY CAUGHT, SHE WAS SENT TO RAVENS BROOKE CONCENTRATION CAMP.
>> SHE WAS GASSED TO DEATH. >> AFTER THE OCCUPATION, DID THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR FAMILY TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT LOUISA HAD DONE DURING THE OCCUPATION AND ABOUT HER MURDER BY THE NAZIS? >> THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT, I
THINK, WERE KIND OF ASHAMED. THEY WERE HORRIFIED THAT IT HAPPENED. AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO
GET TOO INVOLVED IN WHAT HAD GONE ON THERE. >> NOT WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THE RESISTANCE OR NOT WANTING TO
TALK ABOUT THE OCCUPATION AT ALL? >> WELL, IT WAS SUCH A MIXED PICTURE.
THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE RESISTED FOR GERMANS AS MUCH AS RESISTANCE WAS POSSIBLE WITHIN A TINY NINE BY FIVE MILE ISLAND.
AND THERE WERE ALSO PEOPLE WHO COLLABORATED. SOME PEOPLE HAD BETRAYED THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
THE ONLY POSSIBLE LEGISLATION WAS TREASON, WHICH WAS STILL A HANGING OFFENSE. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO
THAT. THAT WAS THE CONFUSING, MESSY, DIRTY, MIXED PICTURE OF THE CHANNEL ISLANDS OCCUPATION.
>> WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT MESSY, DIRTY HISTORY WHEN THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT'S REVIEW OF THE DEATH TOLL AT THE CAMPS ON
ALDERNEY IS PUBLISHED NEXT MONTH. BUT IT'S UNLIKELY TO SATISFY EVERYONE.
>> SOME KIND OF APOLOGY AND MORAL RECK M PENCE WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> YOU WANT THE BRITISH
GOVERNMENT TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING PROSECUTED ALLEGED WAR CRIMINALS? >> YES, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO RECOGNIZE WHAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE HAPPENED. >> THE HORRORS CARRIED OUT ON
THIS ISLAND WERE DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE. THE VICTIMS WERE SILENCED AND BURIED.
NOW, NEARLY EIGHT DECADES LATER, THEY'RE FINALLY BEING COUNTED.
>>> THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF SUCCESSFUL STANDUP COMEDIANS, BUT FEW WHO HAVE MANAGED TO DO WHAT KEVIN HART HAS.
IN ADDIION TO BECOMING A BANKABLE MOVIE STAR, HE'S ALSO BUILT AN ENTERTAINMENT AND BUSINESS EMPIRE.
AN LAST MONTH, AT 44, HE WAS AWARDED THE MARK TWAIN PRIZE FOR AMERICAN HUMOR, AS CLOSE TO A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AS
YOU CAN GET. HART'S COMEDY ISN'T PARTICULARLY CONTROVERSIAL. IT'S CONVERSATIONAL, WITH A LOT
OF CURSING THROWN IN. HE TELLS REVEALING STORIES ABOUT HIS WIFE AND FOUR KIDS, HIS EMBARRASSING INSECURITIES, AND
HIS MANY SHORTCOMINGS. ON STAGE, KEVIN HART IS AN OPEN BOOK. BUT WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH HIM ON
ONE TOPIC AT LEAST, HE WAS A BIT HARD TO PIN DOWN. >> GQ SAID YOU'RE 5'5". THE L.A. TIMES SAID YOU'RE 5'4".
AND SOME OTHER PLACE YOU'RE 5 2. >> WELL THAT PLACE IS BULL [ MUTED ]. GQ FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT.
>> 5'5". >> KEVIN HART HAS BEEN TELLING TALL TALES ABOUT HIMSELF ON STAGE FOR TWO DECADES.
>> FIVE BEEN 52 1/2 BY WHOLE LIFE. >> IT'S TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU AREN'T AFRAID TO LAUGH AT
YOURSELF. I'M REALLY CONFIDENT THAT THE LAUGH THAT I'M GETTING, YOU'RE NOT LAUGHING NECESSARILY AT ME
AS IF I'M A JOKE. YOU'RE LAUGHING AT THE EXPERIENCE. I'M GIVING YOU AN EXPERIENCE
THROUGH A STORY THAT IS RELATABLE. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M SAYING THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE JUST
DON'T HAVE THE HEART TO SAY. >> I MEAN, YOU TOLD A STORY ABOUT YOUR WIFE WATCHING TALL PEOPLE PORN.
>> YEAH. THEY'RE TALLER THAN ME. >> THAT'S YOUR ISSUE? >> WHY IS HE SO TALL?
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? WE CAN HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION OFF THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEARCHING
FOR. >> YOU CAN'T FIX THAT. >> I CAN'T FIX THAT. THAT'S A PROBLEM.
ONE OF THE SITES WASN'T EVEN PORN. ONE OF THE SITES WAS A BUNCH OF TALL MEN BEING ACTIVE.
THEY WERE CHANGING LIGHT BULBS. HANGING PAINTING. WHAT KIND OF SICK [ MUTED ] IS THIS.
SHE'S LIKE, WHAT, YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT STUFF? >> HART IS THE HIGHEST GROSSING COMEDIAN TODAY.
HE SELLS OUT ARENAS AROUND THE WORLD AND THE OCCASIONAL FOOTBALL STADIUM. >> WE SOLD A FOOTBALL STADIUM
OUT TONIGHT. I NEED TO HEAR THAT. >> WHEN WE FIRST MET HIM IN JANUARY IN HIS OFFICES IN LOS
ANGELES, HE WAS WORKING ON NEW MATERIAL FOR AN UPCOMING COMEDY TOUR. >> TO DO AN HOUR COMEDY SPECIAL,
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? >> YOU REALLY WORK ON THE SET EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS. >> ARE YOU SITTING IN A ROOM
WITH YOUR TEAM? >> NO. I'M GOING BACK TO GROUND ZERO. >> SMALL COMEDY CLUBS.
>> SMALL COMEDY CLUBS, ROOMS. I'VE GOT TWO GUYS, HARRY RATCHFORD, JOEY WELLS, ACT AS MY WRITERS.
WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GRAB MY MATERIAL AS I SAY IT. YOU CAN'T WRITE IT DOWN FOR ME. I DON'T LIKE THE LONG JOKES, THE
LONG SENTENCES. IT HAS TO BE IN BULLET POINTS. TRAVEL, BAD. BAD TRAVEL.
WHY BAD TRAVEL? MAKES ME DRIVE. DRIVING, GOOD VERSUS BAD. EVERYTHING HAS A GOOD AND A BAD.
MY RULE IS WHEN I GET ON STAGE, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THE DISMANTLED PICTURE IN MY HEAD OF KIND OF WHAT I THINK IT IS AND
IT NOT BE GOOD AND THEN FIGURE OUT IN REALTIME AND WALK OFF STAGE AND GO, THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE.
>> A FEW HOURS LATER, 3,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN PASADENA TO HEAR HART FIGURE OUT HIS NEW JOKES ON STAGE.
EVERYONE HAD TO HAND OVER THEIR PHONES. BEFORE HE BEGAN, HART EXPLAINED WHY.
>> LIKE, 90% OF WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TONIGHT I FEEL LIKE IS REALLY GOOD. THE REASON WHY I TOOK YOUR
PHONES IS BECAUSE OF THE OTHER 10%, RIGHT? LIKE, JUST IN CASE. JUST IN CASE SOME OF IT'S NOT,
YOU DON'T HAVE NO PROOF. >> WE AGREED NOT TO RECORD ANY OF HIS ROUTINE EITHER. BUT BACKSTAGE, WE FOUND HIS
COLLABORATORS, HARRY RATCHFORD AND JOEY WELLS, TAKING A LOT OF NOTES. >> KEVIN HART, I LOVE YOU.
GOOD NIGHT. >> HOW WAS THIS AUDIENCE? >> THIS AUDIENCE WAS GREAT. GREAT.
YOU COULD FEEL THE LAUGHTER NEVER STOPPED. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE THEATER.
THE THEATER LETS YOU REALLY FEEL THE HIGHS AND LOWS OF A SET. >> THERE'S SO MUCH THAT HE WANTS TO DO.
>> JOEY WELLS AND HARRY RATCHFORD ALONG WITH SOCIAL MEDIA YANS WILL SPANK HORTON AND NA'IM LYNN.
>> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR WHEN HE'S ON A STAGE AND TELLING A JOKE, WHAT NOTES DO YOU HAVE? >> HARRY IS ALWAYS STRUCTURED.
WE SHOULD PUT THE JOKE HERE AND MOVE IT AROUND. FOR ME, I'M LIKE, HOW CAN IT BE A LITTLE BIT FUNNIER.
HE MIGHT GET A STANDING OVATION, I GO, THAT WAS GREAT, THAT WAS GREAT. WHAT IF YOU TRY THIS?
>> SPANK AND NA'IM HAVE KNOWN HEART SINCE GROWING UP IN PHILADELPHIA. >> WAS KEVIN ALWAYS AS CONFIDENT
AS HE IS TODAY? >> IT WAS ALWAYS PERPLEXING, WHY DID THIS LITTLE UGLY GUY HAVE SO MUCH CONFIDENCE.
>> HOME MOVIES HIS MOM MADE SHOW HART WAS ALWAYS THE FAMILY ENTERTAINER. HE LIVED IN A ONE-BEDROOM
APARTMENT WITH HIS BROTHER, ROBERT, AND HIS MOM, NANCY HART. SHE KEPT A CLOSE EYE ON KEVIN. >> SHE PLANNED EVERY MOMENT OF
YOUR DAY. >> AFTER FINISHING HOMEWORK, I HAD TO GO TO SWIM PRACTICE. WE WOULD WALK HOME FROM
PRACTICE. THE HOMEWORK I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, SHE WOULD CHECK, MAKE ME REDO IT.
SHE WOULD MAKE ME READ. I WOULD SKIP PAGES, NOT EXPECTING THE QUIZ OF THE BOOK TO COME.
>> DO YOU CREDIT HER WITH THE DRIVE YOU HAVE? >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
>> HIS MOM ALSO KEPT KEVIN'S DAD, HENRY WITHERSPOON, AT A DISTANCE. HE WAS IN AND OUT OF PRISON AND
ADDICTED TO DRUGS, WHICH HART TALKED ABOUT IN A 2011 STANDUP SPECIAL CALLED "LAUGH AT MY PAIN."
>> I WAS IN A WEIRD, LIKE, SPELLING BEES, DEBATES. HERE'S THE THING. MY DAD WOULD SHOW UP AT MY
EVENTS AND TREAT THEM AS IF THEY'RE ATHLETIC EVENTS. FIRST OF ALL, YOU CAN'T CHEER FOR NO KID AT A SPELLING BEE.
IT'S A SPELLING BEE. I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF SPELLING A DIFFICULT WORD. MY DAD SHOWS UP LATE, HIGH AS
HELL MAKING COKEHEAD NOISES. I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF SPELLING. OUT OF NOWHERE, ALL I HEARD WAS ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.
YEAH! >> THE ACTUAL DETAILS OF STUFF HE DID ARE REALLY HEARTBREAKING. >> YEAH.
>> AND YET YOU TELL IT IN A WAY THAT'S FUNNY. IS IT HEARTBREAKING TO YOU? >> NO BECAUSE --
>> IT MUST HAVE BEEN AT THE TIME. >> I SEE IT FOR WHAT IT WAS. AS A KID, THAT'S DAD.
BY THE WAY, IN MY ENVIRONMENT, THAT'S THE NORM. IT'S NORMAL TO SEE YOUR PARENT DRUNK OR WHATEVER.
>> YOUR DAD, EVEN IN THE DEPTHS OF HIS DRUG USE, HE WANTED TO SEE YOU AND YOUR BROTHER. >> ABSOLUTELY.
THERE WAS A PERIOD WHERE HE DISAPPEARED WHERE I DIDN'T SEE HIM FOR A LONG TIME. I SAW HIM ON THE SUBWAY.
HE WAS IN BAD SHAPE. I WAS LIKE, DAD. HE TURNED AROUND AND SAW ME. THE DOORS OPENED, MY DAD WALKED
OFF AND RAN. LATER TOLD ME, I RAN BECAUSE IT JUST HURT ME FOR YOU TO SEE ME LIKE THAT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FACTORS IN GETTING HIM HELP. >> HART WAS ABLE TO GET HIS DAD HELP BEFORE HE DIED IN 2022.
HIS DAD LOVED TO HEAR THE STORIES KEVIN TOLD HIM IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. WHEN HART STARTED DOING STANDUP
AT 18, HE STRUGGLED TO FIND PLACES TO PERFORM. >> YOU WOULD TAKE GIGS WHEREVER YOU COULD GET THEM.
>> YOU'RE TALKING BOWLING ALLEY. IF YOU'RE TALKING CABARET, STRIP CLUBS -- >> IS THERE A LOT OF COMEDY IN
STRIP CLUBS? >> NO! I DON'T KNOW WHO THOUGHT THAT COMEDY AND STRIPPERS MIX.
BUT I REMEMBER ONE OF THE MOST HEARTBREAKING MOMENTS BEING ON STAGE IS, LIKE, IN THE MIDDLE OF MY SET --
>> THIS IS AT A STRIP CLUB. >> AND I REMEMBER HEARING THIS LADY GO, OH, BABY. >> AFTER YOU TOLD A JOKE.
>> OH, BABY. SO DISGUSTED AND HEART BROKEN THAT THIS IS WHAT I CHOSE TO DO WITH MY LIFE.
>> HART THOUGHT HE WAS ABOUT TO MAKE IT BIG WHEN HE SHOT A SITCOM FOR ABC CALLED "THE BIG HOUSE" IN 2003.
>> IT'S KEVIN HART! >> THE NETWORK FLEW HIM OUT TO PRESENT THE SHOW TO ADVERTISERS AND THE MEDIA.
>> I'M NEXT TO WALK ON STAGE SO YOU CAN ANNOUNCE "THE BIG HOUSE." YOU'RE THE GUY WITH THE
MICROPHONE BACKSTAGE MANAGING. THIS IS WHAT I SAY, HE'S RIGHT HERE. I'M READY.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL TELL HIM RIGHT NOW. KEVIN, HOLD UP ONE SECOND. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH
WITH PICKING UP. I'LL TALK TO YOU SHORTLY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> THE GUY WITH THE MICROPHONE
IS TELLING YOU THAT YOUR SERIES IS NOT BEING PICKED UP BY THE NETWORK. >> NOT THE NETWORK EXEC.
NO, NO, NO, A GUY NAMED BARRY IN THE BACK HOLDING THE CURTAIN. >> IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT REJECTION --
>> I DON'T WANT TO FEEL THAT. I DON'T LIKE THAT YOU GOT TO HIRE ME WHEN YOU'RE READY. YOU'RE SAYING THAT MY CAREER IS
BASICALLY DETERMINED OFF OF THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE THAT I DON'T KNOW AND THAT I DON'T TALK TO? I MIGHT BE SITTING HERE ALL DAY
IF I DON'T GO GRAB IT AND I DON'T GO MAKE WHAT I FEEL SHOULD BE MINE. >> AND THAT IS WHAT HE DID.
HE STARTED A SMALL PRODUCTION COMPANY, NOW CALLED HARTBEAT, AND BEGAN MAKING HIS OWN HOUR-LONG STANDUP SPECIALS.
HE ALSO MARKETED HIMSELF RELENTLESSLY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. HOLLYWOOD STUDIOS TOOK NOTICE.
>> GET ON MY BACK. >> I WOULD RATHER DIE. >> JUMP ON MY BACK. >> I'M GONE DIE.
>> KEVIN, WHAT'S UP? >> WHEN HE WAS PICKED IN 2018 TO HOST THE OSCARS, IT SEEMED LIKE A HIGH POINT IN HIS CAREER.
>> I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAY PEOPLE. >> BUT THEN COMMENTS HE MADE ABOUT GAY PEOPLE YEARS EARLIER
ON STAGE AND ON TWITTER CAUSED CONTROVERSY. >> ME BEING A HETEROSEXUAL MALE, IF I CAN PREVENT MY SON FROM
BEING GAY, I WILL. >> HART STEPPED DOWN AS THE OSCARS HOST. >> INITIALLY YOU DIDN'T
APOLOGIZE. LATER ON YOU DID. >> LATER ON, THE UNDERSTANDING CAME FROM THE BEST LIGHT BULB
EVER. WANDA SYKES SAID, THERE'S PEOPLE BEING HURT TODAY BECAUSE OF COMMENTS YOU MADE THEN.
AND THERE'S PEOPLE SAYING, IT'S OKAY TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS TODAY BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU DID THEN.
IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME IN A WAY WHERE I COULDN'T -- I COULDN'T IGNORE THAT. SO, IN THOSE MOMENTS OF DESPAIR,
GREAT UNDERSTANDING AND EDUCATION CAN COME OUT OF IT IF YOU'RE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY. >> THESE DAYS, IT'S HARD TO KEEP
TRACK OF ALL THE BUSINESSES HART HAS A HAND IN. THE WEEKEND WE SPENT WITH HIM, HE WAS IN CONSTANT MOTION AND
PROMOTION, STARTING WITH HIS DAILY PRE-DAWN WORKOUT. >> "60 MINUTES," IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? I'M GONNA GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT. >> AND HE WAS OFF TO WALMART TO
PUBLICIZE A NUTRITION SUPPLEMENT COMPANY HE OWNS. >> YOU WANT TO REACH PEOPLE. >> YOU'RE A REAL PERSON.
>> I AM. >> HE'S ALSO GOT A FAST FOOD CHAIN, A TEQUILA BRAND, AND A $100 MILLION VENTURE CAPITAL
FUND. >> CHEERS. >> AND HARTBEAT, THAT LITTLE PRODUCTION COMPANY HE STARTED IS
NOW WORTH MORE THAN $650 MILLION. >> I'M NO LONGER JUST A COMEDIAN.
I'M AN INVESTMENT. I'M A STUDIO. I'M A PARTNER LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIPS.
WORK FOR HIRE IS NOT IN MY BEST INTEREST IF IT'S A ONE AND DONE SITUATION. >> THAT MEANS THE ENDLESS STREAM
OF MOVIES, SHOWS, PODCASTS, AND COMMERCIALS KEVIN HART POPS UP IN, CHANCES ARE, HARTBEAT IS MAKING MONEY OFF THEM TOO.
>> EVEN MY STUNT DOUBLE HAS A STUNT DOUBLE. >> ARE YOU A BILLIONAIRE YET? >> NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, MAN.
YOU TRYING TO GET ME ROBBED? >> YOU WILL BE A BILLIONAIRE. >> I MEAN, HOPEFULLY. AND EVEN IF I DON'T OR IF I'M
NOT, I THINK THE BETTER SIDE TO WHAT I'VE DONE IS CREATE WHAT CAN BECOME THE NEW NORM FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS OF
FUNNY, FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS OF ENTERTAINMENT, RIGHT? NOT JUST BEING A PART OF THE
BUSINESS BUT LEARNING AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO BE THE BUSINESS.
>> KEVIN HART'S DAUGHTER ON THE JOKES HE TELLS ABOUT HER. >> WHY IS HE BLOWING MY >>> NOW, "THE LAST MINUTE" OF
"60 MINUTES." >> TONIGHT, AN UPDATE OF OUR STORY ON DEVELOPMENTS IN "60 MINUTES" FIVE YEAR INVESTIGATION
INTO MYSTERIOUS BRAIN INJURIES TO U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY PERSONNEL. WE REPORTED EVIDENCE POSSIBLY
LINKING THE INJURIES TO A SECRET RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE UNIT CALLED 29155. THIS PAST WEEK, A BIPARTISAN
GROUP OF SENATORS WROTE THE PRESIDENT, THE "60 MINUTES" PIECE PRESENTED COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT WARRANTS FURTHER
REVIEW, AND REQUESTED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION RENEW EFFORTS TO IDENTIFY THE CAUSE OF THESE INJURIES AND ENSURE THAT VICTIMS
GET THE TREATMENT THEY DESERVE. THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN THAT IT DOES NOT SEE THE HAND OF A
FOREIGN ADVERSARY IN THIS. I'M SCOTT PELLEY. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60