1
00:00:02,335 --> 00:00:06,000
>>> THIS MACHINE CAN CREATE
NEARLY THE COLDEST CONDITIONS IN
THE UNIVERSE AT ABOUT 460
DEGREES BELOW ZERO.

2
00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,000
>>> THIS MACHINE CAN CREATE
NEARLY THE COLDEST CONDITIONS IN
THE UNIVERSE AT ABOUT 460
DEGREES BELOW ZERO.

3
00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,000
>>> THIS MACHINE CAN CREATE
NEARLY THE COLDEST CONDITIONS IN
THE UNIVERSE AT ABOUT 460
DEGREES BELOW ZERO.

4
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,588
>>> THIS MACHINE CAN CREATE
NEARLY THE COLDEST CONDITIONS IN
THE UNIVERSE AT ABOUT 460
DEGREES BELOW ZERO.

5
00:00:21,654 --> 00:00:24,000
IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, A RADICALLY
NEW KIND OF COMPUTER MAY CHANGE
CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A RACE

6
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,862
IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, A RADICALLY
NEW KIND OF COMPUTER MAY CHANGE
CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A RACE

7
00:00:28,928 --> 00:00:30,000
BETWEEN CHINA, BETWEEN IBM,
GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, HONEYWELL,
BECAUSE THE NATION OR COMPANY
THAT DOES THIS WILL RULE THE

8
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,000
BETWEEN CHINA, BETWEEN IBM,
GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, HONEYWELL,
BECAUSE THE NATION OR COMPANY
THAT DOES THIS WILL RULE THE

9
00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,104
BETWEEN CHINA, BETWEEN IBM,
GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, HONEYWELL,
BECAUSE THE NATION OR COMPANY
THAT DOES THIS WILL RULE THE

10
00:00:38,171 --> 00:00:42,000
WORLD ECONOMY.
>>> DID PEOPLE TRY TO KILL YOU?
>> YES.
>> AUTHOR SALMAN RUSHDIE HAS

11
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,146
WORLD ECONOMY.
>>> DID PEOPLE TRY TO KILL YOU?
>> YES.
>> AUTHOR SALMAN RUSHDIE HAS

12
00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:48,000
BEEN A MARKED MAN FOR NEARLY
HALF HIS LIFE.
AND IN 2022, A KNIFE -WIELDING
ATTACKING ALMOST KILLED HIM.

13
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:54,000
BEEN A MARKED MAN FOR NEARLY
HALF HIS LIFE.
AND IN 2022, A KNIFE -WIELDING
ATTACKING ALMOST KILLED HIM.

14
00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,687
BEEN A MARKED MAN FOR NEARLY
HALF HIS LIFE.
AND IN 2022, A KNIFE -WIELDING
ATTACKING ALMOST KILLED HIM.

15
00:00:54,754 --> 00:01:00,000
THIS IS HIS FIRST TELEVISION
INTERVIEW.
>> ONE OF THE SURGEONS WHO SAVED
MY LIFE SAID TO ME, HE SAID,

16
00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,629
THIS IS HIS FIRST TELEVISION
INTERVIEW.
>> ONE OF THE SURGEONS WHO SAVED
MY LIFE SAID TO ME, HE SAID,

17
00:01:02,695 --> 00:01:06,000
FIRST, YOU WERE REALLY UNLUCKY,
AND THEN YOU WERE REALLY LUCKY.
I SAID, WHAT'S THE LUCKY PART?
HE SAID, THE LUCKY PART IS THE

18
00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,970
FIRST, YOU WERE REALLY UNLUCKY,
AND THEN YOU WERE REALLY LUCKY.
I SAID, WHAT'S THE LUCKY PART?
HE SAID, THE LUCKY PART IS THE

19
00:01:11,037 --> 00:01:12,000
MAN WHO ATTACKED YOU HAD NO IDEA
HOW TO KILL A MAN WITH A KNIFE.
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

20
00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,000
MAN WHO ATTACKED YOU HAD NO IDEA
HOW TO KILL A MAN WITH A KNIFE.
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

21
00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,446
MAN WHO ATTACKED YOU HAD NO IDEA
HOW TO KILL A MAN WITH A KNIFE.
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

22
00:01:19,512 --> 00:01:24,000
VIOLENCE DISAPPEAR.
BUT YOU CAN USE MAGIC TO TRY.
WE VISITED A REMARKABLE SCHOOL
IN CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA,

23
00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,954
VIOLENCE DISAPPEAR.
BUT YOU CAN USE MAGIC TO TRY.
WE VISITED A REMARKABLE SCHOOL
IN CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA,

24
00:01:28,021 --> 00:01:30,000
THAT'S CALLED THE COLLEGE OF
MAGIC.
WHILE IT'S NOT AN ACCREDITED
INSTITUTION, IT IS A REAL LIFE

25
00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,959
THAT'S CALLED THE COLLEGE OF
MAGIC.
WHILE IT'S NOT AN ACCREDITED
INSTITUTION, IT IS A REAL LIFE

26
00:01:33,026 --> 00:01:36,000
HOG WARTS.
THE SCHOOL FILLED WITH STUDENTS
FROM PRIVILEGE AND FROM POVERTY.
>> ONE, TWO, THREE --

27
00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,334
HOG WARTS.
THE SCHOOL FILLED WITH STUDENTS
FROM PRIVILEGE AND FROM POVERTY.
>> ONE, TWO, THREE --

28
00:01:41,401 --> 00:01:42,000
>> HOCUS-POCUS!
>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.
>> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.

29
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,206
>> HOCUS-POCUS!
>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.
>> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.

30
00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:48,000
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
>> I'M JON WERTHEIM.
>> I'M CECILIA VEGA.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.

31
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,644
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
>> I'M JON WERTHEIM.
>> I'M CECILIA VEGA.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.

32
00:01:51,711 --> 00:01:54,000
THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON "60
MINUTES."
>>> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS
THE MAGIC OF THE MOMENT, BUT

33
00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,000
THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON "60
MINUTES."
>>> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS
THE MAGIC OF THE MOMENT, BUT

34
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:06,000
THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON "60
MINUTES."
>>> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS
THE MAGIC OF THE MOMENT, BUT

35
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,262
THOSE STORIES TONIGHT ON "60
MINUTES."
>>> ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS
THE MAGIC OF THE MOMENT, BUT

36
00:02:09,329 --> 00:02:12,000
THIS IS A STORY ABOUT WHAT'S
NEXT, SOMETHING
INCOMPREHENSIBLE.
THIS PAST DECEMBER, IBM

37
00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,570
THIS IS A STORY ABOUT WHAT'S
NEXT, SOMETHING
INCOMPREHENSIBLE.
THIS PAST DECEMBER, IBM

38
00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:18,000
ANNOUNCED AN ADVANCE IN AN
ENTIRELY NEW KIND OF COMPUTING,
ONE THAT MAY SOLVE PROBLEMS IN
MINUTES THAT WOULD TAKE TODAY'S

39
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,000
ANNOUNCED AN ADVANCE IN AN
ENTIRELY NEW KIND OF COMPUTING,
ONE THAT MAY SOLVE PROBLEMS IN
MINUTES THAT WOULD TAKE TODAY'S

40
00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,278
ANNOUNCED AN ADVANCE IN AN
ENTIRELY NEW KIND OF COMPUTING,
ONE THAT MAY SOLVE PROBLEMS IN
MINUTES THAT WOULD TAKE TODAY'S

41
00:02:25,345 --> 00:02:30,000
SUPERCOMPUTERS MILLIONS OF
YEARS.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN QUANTUM
COMPUTING, A TECHNOLOGY BEING

42
00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,085
SUPERCOMPUTERS MILLIONS OF
YEARS.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN QUANTUM
COMPUTING, A TECHNOLOGY BEING

43
00:02:32,151 --> 00:02:36,000
DEVELOPED AT IBM, GOOGLE, AND
OTHERS.
IT'S NAMED FOR QUANTUM PHYSICS,
WHICH DESCRIBES THE FORCES OF

44
00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,894
DEVELOPED AT IBM, GOOGLE, AND
OTHERS.
IT'S NAMED FOR QUANTUM PHYSICS,
WHICH DESCRIBES THE FORCES OF

45
00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,000
THE SUBATOMIC REALM.
AND AS WE TOLD YOU LAST WINTER,
THE SCIENCE IS DEEP.
AND WE CAN'T SCRATCH THE

46
00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,000
THE SUBATOMIC REALM.
AND AS WE TOLD YOU LAST WINTER,
THE SCIENCE IS DEEP.
AND WE CAN'T SCRATCH THE

47
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,168
THE SUBATOMIC REALM.
AND AS WE TOLD YOU LAST WINTER,
THE SCIENCE IS DEEP.
AND WE CAN'T SCRATCH THE

48
00:02:49,235 --> 00:02:54,000
SURFACE.
BUT WE HOPE TO EXPLAIN JUST
ENOUGH SO THAT YOU WON'T BE
BLINDSIDED BY A BREAK THROUGH

49
00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,308
SURFACE.
BUT WE HOPE TO EXPLAIN JUST
ENOUGH SO THAT YOU WON'T BE
BLINDSIDED BY A BREAK THROUGH

50
00:02:55,375 --> 00:03:00,000
THAT COULD TRANSFORM
CIVILIZATION.
>> THE QUANTUM COMPUTER PUSHES
THE LIMITS OF KNOWLEDGE.

51
00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,818
THAT COULD TRANSFORM
CIVILIZATION.
>> THE QUANTUM COMPUTER PUSHES
THE LIMITS OF KNOWLEDGE.

52
00:03:05,885 --> 00:03:06,000
NEW SCIENCE, NEW ENGINEERING,
ALL LEADING TO THIS PROCESSER
THAT COULD COMPUTING WITH THE
ATOMIC FORCES THAT CREATED THAT

53
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:12,000
NEW SCIENCE, NEW ENGINEERING,
ALL LEADING TO THIS PROCESSER
THAT COULD COMPUTING WITH THE
ATOMIC FORCES THAT CREATED THAT

54
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,528
NEW SCIENCE, NEW ENGINEERING,
ALL LEADING TO THIS PROCESSER
THAT COULD COMPUTING WITH THE
ATOMIC FORCES THAT CREATED THAT

55
00:03:15,595 --> 00:03:18,000
UNIVERSE.
>> I THINK AT THIS MOMENT, IT
FEELS TO US LIKE WE'RE PIONEERS
ON THE 1940s AND '50s THAT WERE

56
00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:24,000
UNIVERSE.
>> I THINK AT THIS MOMENT, IT
FEELS TO US LIKE WE'RE PIONEERS
ON THE 1940s AND '50s THAT WERE

57
00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,604
UNIVERSE.
>> I THINK AT THIS MOMENT, IT
FEELS TO US LIKE WE'RE PIONEERS
ON THE 1940s AND '50s THAT WERE

58
00:03:24,671 --> 00:03:30,000
BUILDING THE FIRST DIGITAL
COMPUTERS.
>> DARIO GIL, SPANISH BORN WITH
A PHD IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING,

59
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,781
BUILDING THE FIRST DIGITAL
COMPUTERS.
>> DARIO GIL, SPANISH BORN WITH
A PHD IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING,

60
00:03:34,847 --> 00:03:36,000
GIL IS HEAD OF RESEARCH AT IBM.
>> HOW MUCH FASTER IS THIS THAN,
SAY, THE WORLD'S BEST
SUPERCOMPUTER TODAY?

61
00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,654
GIL IS HEAD OF RESEARCH AT IBM.
>> HOW MUCH FASTER IS THIS THAN,
SAY, THE WORLD'S BEST
SUPERCOMPUTER TODAY?

62
00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:42,000
>> WE ARE NOW IN A STAGE WHERE
WE CAN DO CERTAIN CALCULATIONS
WITH THESE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD
TAKE THE BIGGEST SUPERCOMPUTERS

63
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,000
>> WE ARE NOW IN A STAGE WHERE
WE CAN DO CERTAIN CALCULATIONS
WITH THESE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD
TAKE THE BIGGEST SUPERCOMPUTERS

64
00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,763
>> WE ARE NOW IN A STAGE WHERE
WE CAN DO CERTAIN CALCULATIONS
WITH THESE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD
TAKE THE BIGGEST SUPERCOMPUTERS

65
00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:54,000
IN THE WORLD TO BE ABLE TO DO
SOME SIMILAR CALCULATION.
BUT THE BEAUTY OF IT IS THAT WE
SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE

66
00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,938
IN THE WORLD TO BE ABLE TO DO
SOME SIMILAR CALCULATION.
BUT THE BEAUTY OF IT IS THAT WE
SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE

67
00:03:59,005 --> 00:04:00,000
TO EXPAND THAT CAPABILITY SUCH
THAT NOT EVEN A MILLION OR A
BILLION OF THOSE SUPERCOMPUTERS
CONNECTED TOGETHER COULD DO THE

68
00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,000
TO EXPAND THAT CAPABILITY SUCH
THAT NOT EVEN A MILLION OR A
BILLION OF THOSE SUPERCOMPUTERS
CONNECTED TOGETHER COULD DO THE

69
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,883
TO EXPAND THAT CAPABILITY SUCH
THAT NOT EVEN A MILLION OR A
BILLION OF THOSE SUPERCOMPUTERS
CONNECTED TOGETHER COULD DO THE

70
00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:12,000
CAC
CALCULATIONS OF THESE FUTURE
MACHINES.
SO, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

71
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,220
CAC
CALCULATIONS OF THESE FUTURE
MACHINES.
SO, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

72
00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:18,000
<u>ND THE MOST EXCITING PART IS</u>
THAT WE HAVE A ROADMAP AND A
JOURNEY RIGHT NOW WHERE THAT IS
GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AT

73
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,095
<u>ND THE MOST EXCITING PART IS</u>
THAT WE HAVE A ROADMAP AND A
JOURNEY RIGHT NOW WHERE THAT IS
GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AT

74
00:04:22,161 --> 00:04:24,000
A RATE THAT IS GOING TO BE
SHOCKING.
>> I'M NOT SURE THE WORLD IS
PREPARED FOR THIS CHANGE.

75
00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,899
A RATE THAT IS GOING TO BE
SHOCKING.
>> I'M NOT SURE THE WORLD IS
PREPARED FOR THIS CHANGE.

76
00:04:26,966 --> 00:04:30,000
>> DEFINITELY NOT.
>> TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGE, GO
BACK TO 1947 AND THE INVENTION
OF A SWITCH CALLED A TRANSISTOR.

77
00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:36,000
>> DEFINITELY NOT.
>> TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGE, GO
BACK TO 1947 AND THE INVENTION
OF A SWITCH CALLED A TRANSISTOR.

78
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,978
>> DEFINITELY NOT.
>> TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGE, GO
BACK TO 1947 AND THE INVENTION
OF A SWITCH CALLED A TRANSISTOR.

79
00:04:39,045 --> 00:04:42,000
>> THE TRANSISTOR, A NEW NAME.
>> COMPUTERS HAVE PROCESSED
INFORMATION ON TRANSISTORS EVER
SINCE, GETTING FASTER, AS MORE

80
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,000
>> THE TRANSISTOR, A NEW NAME.
>> COMPUTERS HAVE PROCESSED
INFORMATION ON TRANSISTORS EVER
SINCE, GETTING FASTER, AS MORE

81
00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,956
>> THE TRANSISTOR, A NEW NAME.
>> COMPUTERS HAVE PROCESSED
INFORMATION ON TRANSISTORS EVER
SINCE, GETTING FASTER, AS MORE

82
00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:54,000
TRANSISTORS WERE SQUEEZED ONTO A
CHIP, BILLIONS OF THEM TODAY.
BUT IT TAKES THAT MANY BECAUSE
EACH TRANSISTOR HOLDS

83
00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,230
TRANSISTORS WERE SQUEEZED ONTO A
CHIP, BILLIONS OF THEM TODAY.
BUT IT TAKES THAT MANY BECAUSE
EACH TRANSISTOR HOLDS

84
00:04:57,296 --> 00:05:00,000
INFORMATION IN ONLY TWO STATES.
IT'S EITHER ON OR ITS OFF, LIKE
A COIN, HEADS OR TAILS.
QUANTUM ABANDONS TRANSISTORS AND

85
00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000
INFORMATION IN ONLY TWO STATES.
IT'S EITHER ON OR ITS OFF, LIKE
A COIN, HEADS OR TAILS.
QUANTUM ABANDONS TRANSISTORS AND

86
00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,574
INFORMATION IN ONLY TWO STATES.
IT'S EITHER ON OR ITS OFF, LIKE
A COIN, HEADS OR TAILS.
QUANTUM ABANDONS TRANSISTORS AND

87
00:05:08,641 --> 00:05:12,000
ENCODES INFORMATION ON ELECTRONS
THAT BEHAVE LIKE THIS COIN WE
CREATED WITH ANIMATION.
ELECTRONS BEHAVE IN A WAY SO

88
00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,283
ENCODES INFORMATION ON ELECTRONS
THAT BEHAVE LIKE THIS COIN WE
CREATED WITH ANIMATION.
ELECTRONS BEHAVE IN A WAY SO

89
00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:18,000
THAT THEY ARE HEADS AND TAILS
AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
YOU'VE GONE FROM HANDLING ONE
BIT OF INFORMATION AT A TIME ON

90
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,000
THAT THEY ARE HEADS AND TAILS
AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
YOU'VE GONE FROM HANDLING ONE
BIT OF INFORMATION AT A TIME ON

91
00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,092
THAT THEY ARE HEADS AND TAILS
AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
YOU'VE GONE FROM HANDLING ONE
BIT OF INFORMATION AT A TIME ON

92
00:05:26,159 --> 00:05:30,000
A TRANSISTOR TO EXPONENTIALLY
MORE DATA.
>> YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS
FANTASTIC AMOUNT OF INFORMATION

93
00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,233
A TRANSISTOR TO EXPONENTIALLY
MORE DATA.
>> YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS
FANTASTIC AMOUNT OF INFORMATION

94
00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:36,000
STORED WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL
POSSIBLE ANGLES, NOT JUST UP OR
DOWN.
>> PHYSICIST MICHIO KAKU OF THE

95
00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,000
STORED WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL
POSSIBLE ANGLES, NOT JUST UP OR
DOWN.
>> PHYSICIST MICHIO KAKU OF THE

96
00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,608
STORED WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL
POSSIBLE ANGLES, NOT JUST UP OR
DOWN.
>> PHYSICIST MICHIO KAKU OF THE

97
00:05:42,675 --> 00:05:48,000
CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK
ALREADY CALLS TODAY'S COMPUTERS
CLASSICAL.
HE USES A MAZE TO EXPLAIN

98
00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,116
CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK
ALREADY CALLS TODAY'S COMPUTERS
CLASSICAL.
HE USES A MAZE TO EXPLAIN

99
00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:54,000
QUANTUM'S DIFFERENCE.
>> LET'S LOOK AT A CLASSICAL
COMPUTER CALCULATING HOW A MOUSE
NAVIGATES A MAZE.

100
00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,989
QUANTUM'S DIFFERENCE.
>> LET'S LOOK AT A CLASSICAL
COMPUTER CALCULATING HOW A MOUSE
NAVIGATES A MAZE.

101
00:05:57,056 --> 00:06:00,000
IT IS PAINFUL.
ONE BY ONE, IT HAS TO MAP EVERY
SINGLE LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN,
LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN, BEFORE IT

102
00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,698
IT IS PAINFUL.
ONE BY ONE, IT HAS TO MAP EVERY
SINGLE LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN,
LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN, BEFORE IT

103
00:06:05,765 --> 00:06:06,000
FINDS THE GOAL.
NOW, THE QUANTUM COMPUTER SCANS
ALL POSSIBLE ROUTES
SIMULTANEOUSLY.

104
00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,370
FINDS THE GOAL.
NOW, THE QUANTUM COMPUTER SCANS
ALL POSSIBLE ROUTES
SIMULTANEOUSLY.

105
00:06:11,437 --> 00:06:12,000
THIS IS AMAZING.
HOW MANY TURNS ARE THERE?
HUNDREDS OF POSSIBLE TURNS,
RIGHT?

106
00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,609
THIS IS AMAZING.
HOW MANY TURNS ARE THERE?
HUNDREDS OF POSSIBLE TURNS,
RIGHT?

107
00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,000
QUANTUM COMPUTERS DO IT ALL AT
ONCE.
>> KAKU'S BOOK, TITLED "QUANTUM
SUPREMACY," EXPLAINS THE STAKES.

108
00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000
QUANTUM COMPUTERS DO IT ALL AT
ONCE.
>> KAKU'S BOOK, TITLED "QUANTUM
SUPREMACY," EXPLAINS THE STAKES.

109
00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,618
QUANTUM COMPUTERS DO IT ALL AT
ONCE.
>> KAKU'S BOOK, TITLED "QUANTUM
SUPREMACY," EXPLAINS THE STAKES.

110
00:06:25,685 --> 00:06:30,000
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A RACE, A
RACE BETWEEN CHINA, BETWEEN IBM,
GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, HONEYWELL.
ALL THE BIG BOYS ARE IN THIS

111
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,000
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A RACE, A
RACE BETWEEN CHINA, BETWEEN IBM,
GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, HONEYWELL.
ALL THE BIG BOYS ARE IN THIS

112
00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,229
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT A RACE, A
RACE BETWEEN CHINA, BETWEEN IBM,
GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, HONEYWELL.
ALL THE BIG BOYS ARE IN THIS

113
00:06:36,295 --> 00:06:42,000
RACE TO CREATE A WORKABLE,
OPERATIONALLY EFFICIENT QUANTUM
COMPUTER BECAUSE THE NATION OR
COMPANY THAT DOES THIS WILL RULE

114
00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,670
RACE TO CREATE A WORKABLE,
OPERATIONALLY EFFICIENT QUANTUM
COMPUTER BECAUSE THE NATION OR
COMPANY THAT DOES THIS WILL RULE

115
00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:48,000
THE WORLD ECONOMY.
>> BUT A RELIABLE GENERAL
PURPOSE QUANTUM COMPUTER IS A
TOUGH CLIMB YET.

116
00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,000
THE WORLD ECONOMY.
>> BUT A RELIABLE GENERAL
PURPOSE QUANTUM COMPUTER IS A
TOUGH CLIMB YET.

117
00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,614
THE WORLD ECONOMY.
>> BUT A RELIABLE GENERAL
PURPOSE QUANTUM COMPUTER IS A
TOUGH CLIMB YET.

118
00:06:54,680 --> 00:07:00,000
MAYBE THAT'S WHY THIS WALL IS IN
THE LOBBY OF GOOGLE'S QUANTUM
LAB IN CALIFORNIA.
HERE, WE GOT AN INSIDE LOOK

119
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,525
MAYBE THAT'S WHY THIS WALL IS IN
THE LOBBY OF GOOGLE'S QUANTUM
LAB IN CALIFORNIA.
HERE, WE GOT AN INSIDE LOOK

120
00:07:05,591 --> 00:07:06,000
STARTING WITH A MICROSCOPE'S
VIEW OF WHAT REPLACES THE
TRANSISTOR.
>> THIS RIGHT HERE IS ONE QUBIT,

121
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,000
STARTING WITH A MICROSCOPE'S
VIEW OF WHAT REPLACES THE
TRANSISTOR.
>> THIS RIGHT HERE IS ONE QUBIT,

122
00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,031
STARTING WITH A MICROSCOPE'S
VIEW OF WHAT REPLACES THE
TRANSISTOR.
>> THIS RIGHT HERE IS ONE QUBIT,

123
00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:18,000
AND THIS IS ANOTHER QUBIT.
THIS IS A FIVE-QUBIT CHAIN.
>> THOSE CROSSES AT THE BOTTOM
ARE QUBIT, SHORT FOR QUANTUM

124
00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,206
AND THIS IS ANOTHER QUBIT.
THIS IS A FIVE-QUBIT CHAIN.
>> THOSE CROSSES AT THE BOTTOM
ARE QUBIT, SHORT FOR QUANTUM

125
00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:24,000
BITS.
THEY HOLD THE ELECTRONS AND ACT
LIKE ARTIFICIAL ATOMS.
UNLIKE TRANSISTORS, EACH

126
00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,180
BITS.
THEY HOLD THE ELECTRONS AND ACT
LIKE ARTIFICIAL ATOMS.
UNLIKE TRANSISTORS, EACH

127
00:07:27,246 --> 00:07:30,000
ADDITIONAL QUBIT DOUBLES THE
COMPUTER'S POWER.
IT'S EXPONENTIAL.
SO, WHILE 20 TRANSISTORS ARE 20

128
00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,000
ADDITIONAL QUBIT DOUBLES THE
COMPUTER'S POWER.
IT'S EXPONENTIAL.
SO, WHILE 20 TRANSISTORS ARE 20

129
00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,889
ADDITIONAL QUBIT DOUBLES THE
COMPUTER'S POWER.
IT'S EXPONENTIAL.
SO, WHILE 20 TRANSISTORS ARE 20

130
00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:42,000
TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN ONE, 20
QUBITS ARE A MILLION TIMES MORE
POWERFUL THAN ONE.
>> SO, THIS GETS POSITIONED

131
00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,398
TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN ONE, 20
QUBITS ARE A MILLION TIMES MORE
POWERFUL THAN ONE.
>> SO, THIS GETS POSITIONED

132
00:07:45,464 --> 00:07:48,000
RIGHT HERE ON THE FRIDGE --
>> CHARINA CHOU, CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER OF GOOGLE'S LAB, SHOWED
US THE PROCESSOR THAT HOLDS THE

133
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,000
RIGHT HERE ON THE FRIDGE --
>> CHARINA CHOU, CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER OF GOOGLE'S LAB, SHOWED
US THE PROCESSOR THAT HOLDS THE

134
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,044
RIGHT HERE ON THE FRIDGE --
>> CHARINA CHOU, CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER OF GOOGLE'S LAB, SHOWED
US THE PROCESSOR THAT HOLDS THE

135
00:07:58,110 --> 00:08:00,000
QUBITS.
MUCH OF THAT ABOVE CHILLS THE
QUBITS TO WHAT PHYSICISTS CALL
NEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO.

136
00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,050
QUBITS.
MUCH OF THAT ABOVE CHILLS THE
QUBITS TO WHAT PHYSICISTS CALL
NEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO.

137
00:08:04,116 --> 00:08:06,000
>> NEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO, I
UNDERSTAND, IS ABOUT 460 DEGREES
BELOW ZERO FAHRENHEIT.
SO, THAT'S ABOUT AS COLD AS

138
00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,891
>> NEAR ABSOLUTE ZERO, I
UNDERSTAND, IS ABOUT 460 DEGREES
BELOW ZERO FAHRENHEIT.
SO, THAT'S ABOUT AS COLD AS

139
00:08:11,958 --> 00:08:12,000
ANYTHING CAN GET.
>> YES.
ALMOST AS COLD AS POSSIBLE.
>> THAT TEMPERATURE INPSESIDE A

140
00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,000
ANYTHING CAN GET.
>> YES.
ALMOST AS COLD AS POSSIBLE.
>> THAT TEMPERATURE INPSESIDE A

141
00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,231
ANYTHING CAN GET.
>> YES.
ALMOST AS COLD AS POSSIBLE.
>> THAT TEMPERATURE INPSESIDE A

142
00:08:18,297 --> 00:08:24,000
SEALED COMPUTER IS ONE OF THE
COLDEST PLACES IN THE UNIVERSE.
THE DEEP FREEZE ELIMINATES
ELECTRICAL RESISTANCE AND

143
00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,972
SEALED COMPUTER IS ONE OF THE
COLDEST PLACES IN THE UNIVERSE.
THE DEEP FREEZE ELIMINATES
ELECTRICAL RESISTANCE AND

144
00:08:26,038 --> 00:08:30,000
ISOLATES THE QUBITS FROM OUTSIDE
VIBRATIONS SO THEY CAN BE
CONTROLLED WITH AN
ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD.

145
00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,211
ISOLATES THE QUBITS FROM OUTSIDE
VIBRATIONS SO THEY CAN BE
CONTROLLED WITH AN
ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD.

146
00:08:32,278 --> 00:08:36,000
THE QUBITS MUST VIBRATE IN
UNISON.
BUT THAT'S A TOUGH TRICKED CALL
COHERNS

147
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,586
THE QUBITS MUST VIBRATE IN
UNISON.
BUT THAT'S A TOUGH TRICKED CALL
COHERNS

148
00:08:40,653 --> 00:08:42,000
COHERENCE.
>> ONCE YOU'VE ACHIEVED
COHERENCE OF THE QUBITS, HOW
EASY IS THAT TO MAINTAIN?

149
00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,924
COHERENCE.
>> ONCE YOU'VE ACHIEVED
COHERENCE OF THE QUBITS, HOW
EASY IS THAT TO MAINTAIN?

150
00:08:44,991 --> 00:08:48,000
>> IT'S REALLY HARD.
COHERENCE IS VERY CHALLENGING.
>> COHERENCE IS FLEETING.
IN ALL SIMILAR MACHINES,

151
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,432
>> IT'S REALLY HARD.
COHERENCE IS VERY CHALLENGING.
>> COHERENCE IS FLEETING.
IN ALL SIMILAR MACHINES,

152
00:08:53,499 --> 00:08:54,000
COHERENCE BREAKS DOWN
CONSTANTLY, CREATING ERRORS.
>> WE'RE MAKING ABOUT ONE ERROR
IN EVERY 100 OR SO STEPS.

153
00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:00,000
COHERENCE BREAKS DOWN
CONSTANTLY, CREATING ERRORS.
>> WE'RE MAKING ABOUT ONE ERROR
IN EVERY 100 OR SO STEPS.

154
00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,276
COHERENCE BREAKS DOWN
CONSTANTLY, CREATING ERRORS.
>> WE'RE MAKING ABOUT ONE ERROR
IN EVERY 100 OR SO STEPS.

155
00:09:03,342 --> 00:09:06,000
ULTIMATELY WE THINK WE'RE GOING
TO NEED ONE ERROR IN EVERY
MILLION OR SO STEPS.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE

156
00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,148
ULTIMATELY WE THINK WE'RE GOING
TO NEED ONE ERROR IN EVERY
MILLION OR SO STEPS.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE

157
00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:12,000
IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
BARRIERS.
>> MITIGATING THOSE ERRORS AND
EXTENDING COHERENCE TIME, WHILE

158
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,589
IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
BARRIERS.
>> MITIGATING THOSE ERRORS AND
EXTENDING COHERENCE TIME, WHILE

159
00:09:16,656 --> 00:09:18,000
SCALING UP TO LARGER MACHINES,
ARE THE CHALLENGES FACING GERMAN
AMERICAN SCIENTIST HARTMUT
NEVEN, WHO FOUNDED GOOGLE'S LAB

160
00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000
SCALING UP TO LARGER MACHINES,
ARE THE CHALLENGES FACING GERMAN
AMERICAN SCIENTIST HARTMUT
NEVEN, WHO FOUNDED GOOGLE'S LAB

161
00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,433
SCALING UP TO LARGER MACHINES,
ARE THE CHALLENGES FACING GERMAN
AMERICAN SCIENTIST HARTMUT
NEVEN, WHO FOUNDED GOOGLE'S LAB

162
00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,000
AND ITS CASUAL STYLE IN 2012.
>> CAN THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE IN
THE WAY OF QUANTUM COMPUTING BE
SOLVED?

163
00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,572
AND ITS CASUAL STYLE IN 2012.
>> CAN THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE IN
THE WAY OF QUANTUM COMPUTING BE
SOLVED?

164
00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:36,000
>> I SHOULD CONFESS, MY SUBTITLE
HERE IS CHIEF OPTIMIST.
SO, AFTER HAVING SAID THIS, I
WOULD SAY, AT THIS POINT, WE

165
00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,847
>> I SHOULD CONFESS, MY SUBTITLE
HERE IS CHIEF OPTIMIST.
SO, AFTER HAVING SAID THIS, I
WOULD SAY, AT THIS POINT, WE

166
00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:42,000
DON'T NEED ANY MORE FUNDAMENTAL
BREAK THROUGHS.
WE NEED LITTLE IMPROVEMENTS HERE
AND THERE.

167
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,552
DON'T NEED ANY MORE FUNDAMENTAL
BREAK THROUGHS.
WE NEED LITTLE IMPROVEMENTS HERE
AND THERE.

168
00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:48,000
WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER.
WE JUST NEED TO INTEGRATE THE
WORLD TO BUILD LARGER AND LARGER
SYSTEMS.

169
00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,000
WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER.
WE JUST NEED TO INTEGRATE THE
WORLD TO BUILD LARGER AND LARGER
SYSTEMS.

170
00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,293
WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER.
WE JUST NEED TO INTEGRATE THE
WORLD TO BUILD LARGER AND LARGER
SYSTEMS.

171
00:09:54,360 --> 00:10:00,000
>> AND YOU THINK ALL OF THIS
WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO A SYSTEM
IN WHAT PERIOD OF TIME?
>> WE OFTEN SAY WE WANT TO DO IT

172
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,232
>> AND YOU THINK ALL OF THIS
WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO A SYSTEM
IN WHAT PERIOD OF TIME?
>> WE OFTEN SAY WE WANT TO DO IT

173
00:10:00,299 --> 00:10:06,000
BY THE END OF THE DECADE SO THAT
WE CAN USE THIS -- GET IT DONE
BY THE END OF THE DECADE.
>> THE END OF THIS DECADE?

174
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,505
BY THE END OF THE DECADE SO THAT
WE CAN USE THIS -- GET IT DONE
BY THE END OF THE DECADE.
>> THE END OF THIS DECADE?

175
00:10:06,572 --> 00:10:11,444
>> YES.
>> FIVE OR SIX YEARS?
>> YES.
>> THAT'S ABOUT THE TIMELINE

176
00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:12,000
DARIO GIL PREDICTS.
AND THE IBM RESEARCH DIRECTOR
TOLD US SOMETHING SURPRISING.
>> THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT

177
00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,000
DARIO GIL PREDICTS.
AND THE IBM RESEARCH DIRECTOR
TOLD US SOMETHING SURPRISING.
>> THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT

178
00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,084
DARIO GIL PREDICTS.
AND THE IBM RESEARCH DIRECTOR
TOLD US SOMETHING SURPRISING.
>> THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT

179
00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:24,000
CLASSICAL COMPUTERS CAN NEVER
SOLVE?
>> CAN NEVER SOLVE.
AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT

180
00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,090
CLASSICAL COMPUTERS CAN NEVER
SOLVE?
>> CAN NEVER SOLVE.
AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT

181
00:10:24,156 --> 00:10:30,000
POINT BECAUSE WE'RE ACCUSTOMED
TO SAYING, COMPUTERS GET BETTER.
ACTUALLY, THERE ARE MANY, MANY
PROBLEMS THAT ARE SO COMPLEX

182
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,099
POINT BECAUSE WE'RE ACCUSTOMED
TO SAYING, COMPUTERS GET BETTER.
ACTUALLY, THERE ARE MANY, MANY
PROBLEMS THAT ARE SO COMPLEX

183
00:10:33,165 --> 00:10:36,000
THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT
THAT, ACTUALLY, CLASSICAL
COMPUTERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, NOT NOW, NOT

184
00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,573
THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT
THAT, ACTUALLY, CLASSICAL
COMPUTERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, NOT NOW, NOT

185
00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:42,000
100 YEARS FROM NOW, NOT 1,000
YEARS FROM NOW.
YOU ACTUALLY REQUIRE A DIFFERENT
WAY TO REPRESENT INFORMATION AND

186
00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,000
100 YEARS FROM NOW, NOT 1,000
YEARS FROM NOW.
YOU ACTUALLY REQUIRE A DIFFERENT
WAY TO REPRESENT INFORMATION AND

187
00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:48,114
100 YEARS FROM NOW, NOT 1,000
YEARS FROM NOW.
YOU ACTUALLY REQUIRE A DIFFERENT
WAY TO REPRESENT INFORMATION AND

188
00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:54,000
PROCESS INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT QUANTUM GIVE US.
>> QUANTUM COULD GIVE US ANSWERS
TO IMPOSSIBLE PROBLEMS IN

189
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,221
PROCESS INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT QUANTUM GIVE US.
>> QUANTUM COULD GIVE US ANSWERS
TO IMPOSSIBLE PROBLEMS IN

190
00:10:55,287 --> 00:11:00,000
PHYSICS, CHEMISTRY, ENGINEERING,
AND MEDICINE, WHICH IS WHY IBM
AND CLEVELAND CLINIC HAVE
INSTALLED ONE OF THE FIRST

191
00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,031
PHYSICS, CHEMISTRY, ENGINEERING,
AND MEDICINE, WHICH IS WHY IBM
AND CLEVELAND CLINIC HAVE
INSTALLED ONE OF THE FIRST

192
00:11:05,097 --> 00:11:06,000
QUANTUM COMPUTERS TO LEAVE THE
LAB FOR THE REAL WORLD.
>> IT TAKES TIME.
IT TAKES WAY TOO MUCH TIME TO

193
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,000
QUANTUM COMPUTERS TO LEAVE THE
LAB FOR THE REAL WORLD.
>> IT TAKES TIME.
IT TAKES WAY TOO MUCH TIME TO

194
00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,338
QUANTUM COMPUTERS TO LEAVE THE
LAB FOR THE REAL WORLD.
>> IT TAKES TIME.
IT TAKES WAY TOO MUCH TIME TO

195
00:11:12,405 --> 00:11:18,000
FIND THE SOLUTIONS WE NEED.
>> WE SAT DOWN WITH DARIO GIL
AND DR. SERPIL ERZURUM, CHIEF
RESEARCH OFFICER AT CLEVELAND

196
00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,000
FIND THE SOLUTIONS WE NEED.
>> WE SAT DOWN WITH DARIO GIL
AND DR. SERPIL ERZURUM, CHIEF
RESEARCH OFFICER AT CLEVELAND

197
00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,350
FIND THE SOLUTIONS WE NEED.
>> WE SAT DOWN WITH DARIO GIL
AND DR. SERPIL ERZURUM, CHIEF
RESEARCH OFFICER AT CLEVELAND

198
00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:30,000
CLINIC.
SHE TOLD US HEALTH CARE WOULD BE
TRANSFORMED IF QUANTUM COMPUTERS
CAN MODEL THE BEHAVIOR OF

199
00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,957
CLINIC.
SHE TOLD US HEALTH CARE WOULD BE
TRANSFORMED IF QUANTUM COMPUTERS
CAN MODEL THE BEHAVIOR OF

200
00:11:32,024 --> 00:11:36,000
PROTEINS, THE MOLECULES THAT
REGULATE ALL LIFE.
PROTEINS CHANGE SHAPE TO CHANGE
FUNCTION IN WAYS TOO COMPLEX TO

201
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,900
PROTEINS, THE MOLECULES THAT
REGULATE ALL LIFE.
PROTEINS CHANGE SHAPE TO CHANGE
FUNCTION IN WAYS TOO COMPLEX TO

202
00:11:40,966 --> 00:11:42,000
FOLLOW.
AND WHEN THEY GET IT WRONG, THAT
CAUSES DISEASE.
>> IT TAKES ON MANY SHAPES,

203
00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,872
FOLLOW.
AND WHEN THEY GET IT WRONG, THAT
CAUSES DISEASE.
>> IT TAKES ON MANY SHAPES,

204
00:11:46,939 --> 00:11:48,000
MANY, MANY SHAPES DEPENDING UPON
WHAT IT'S DOING AND WHERE IT IS
AND WHICH OTHER PROTEIN IT'S
WITH.

205
00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,000
MANY, MANY SHAPES DEPENDING UPON
WHAT IT'S DOING AND WHERE IT IS
AND WHICH OTHER PROTEIN IT'S
WITH.

206
00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:54,280
MANY, MANY SHAPES DEPENDING UPON
WHAT IT'S DOING AND WHERE IT IS
AND WHICH OTHER PROTEIN IT'S
WITH.

207
00:11:54,346 --> 00:11:59,718
I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SHAPE
IT'S IN.
WHEN IT'S DOING AN INTERACTION
OR A FUNCTION THAT I DON'T WANT

208
00:11:59,785 --> 00:12:00,000
IT TO DO FOR THAT PATIENT.
CANCER, AUTOIMMUNITY, IT'S A
PROBLEM.
WE ARE LIMITED COMPLETELY BY THE

209
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:06,000
IT TO DO FOR THAT PATIENT.
CANCER, AUTOIMMUNITY, IT'S A
PROBLEM.
WE ARE LIMITED COMPLETELY BY THE

210
00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,161
IT TO DO FOR THAT PATIENT.
CANCER, AUTOIMMUNITY, IT'S A
PROBLEM.
WE ARE LIMITED COMPLETELY BY THE

211
00:12:09,228 --> 00:12:12,000
COMPUTATIONAL ABILITY TO LOOK AT
THE STRUCTURE IN REAL TIME FOR
ANY EVEN ONE MOLECULE.
>> CLEVELAND CLINIC IS SO PROUD

212
00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,000
COMPUTATIONAL ABILITY TO LOOK AT
THE STRUCTURE IN REAL TIME FOR
ANY EVEN ONE MOLECULE.
>> CLEVELAND CLINIC IS SO PROUD

213
00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,604
COMPUTATIONAL ABILITY TO LOOK AT
THE STRUCTURE IN REAL TIME FOR
ANY EVEN ONE MOLECULE.
>> CLEVELAND CLINIC IS SO PROUD

214
00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:24,000
OF ITS QUANTUM COMPUTER THEY SET
IT UP IN A LOBBY BEHIND THE
GLASS, THAT SHINY SILVER
CYLINDER ENCLOSES THE KIND OF

215
00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,813
OF ITS QUANTUM COMPUTER THEY SET
IT UP IN A LOBBY BEHIND THE
GLASS, THAT SHINY SILVER
CYLINDER ENCLOSES THE KIND OF

216
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,000
COOLING SYSTEM AND PROCESSOR YOU
SAW EARLIER.
QUANTUM IS NOT SOLVING THE
PROTEIN PROBLEM YET.

217
00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,018
COOLING SYSTEM AND PROCESSOR YOU
SAW EARLIER.
QUANTUM IS NOT SOLVING THE
PROTEIN PROBLEM YET.

218
00:12:33,085 --> 00:12:36,000
THIS IS MORE OF A TRIAL RUN TO
INTRODUCE RESEARCHERS TO
QUANTUM'S POTENTIAL.
>> THE PEOPLE USING THIS

219
00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,659
THIS IS MORE OF A TRIAL RUN TO
INTRODUCE RESEARCHERS TO
QUANTUM'S POTENTIAL.
>> THE PEOPLE USING THIS

220
00:12:40,726 --> 00:12:42,000
MACHINE, ARE THEY HAVING TO
LEARN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WAY
TO COMMUNICATE WITH A COMPUTER?
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY

221
00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,600
MACHINE, ARE THEY HAVING TO
LEARN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WAY
TO COMMUNICATE WITH A COMPUTER?
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY

222
00:12:47,666 --> 00:12:48,000
NICE, THAT YOU ACTUALLY JUST USE
A REGULAR LAPTOP AND YOU WRITE A
PROGRAM, VERY MUCH LIKE YOU
WOULD WRITE A TRADITIONAL

223
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,000
NICE, THAT YOU ACTUALLY JUST USE
A REGULAR LAPTOP AND YOU WRITE A
PROGRAM, VERY MUCH LIKE YOU
WOULD WRITE A TRADITIONAL

224
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,509
NICE, THAT YOU ACTUALLY JUST USE
A REGULAR LAPTOP AND YOU WRITE A
PROGRAM, VERY MUCH LIKE YOU
WOULD WRITE A TRADITIONAL

225
00:12:56,575 --> 00:13:00,000
PROGRAM.
BUT WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, CLICK GO
AND RUN, IT JUST HAPPENS TO RUN
ON A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF

226
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,215
PROGRAM.
BUT WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, CLICK GO
AND RUN, IT JUST HAPPENS TO RUN
ON A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF

227
00:13:03,282 --> 00:13:06,000
COMPUTER.
>> THERE ARE A HALF DOZEN
COMPETING DESIGNS IN THE RACE.
CHINA NAMED QUANTUM A TOP

228
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,955
COMPUTER.
>> THERE ARE A HALF DOZEN
COMPETING DESIGNS IN THE RACE.
CHINA NAMED QUANTUM A TOP

229
00:13:10,022 --> 00:13:12,000
NATIONAL PRIORITY, AND THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING NEARLY A
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON
RESEARCH.

230
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,529
NATIONAL PRIORITY, AND THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING NEARLY A
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON
RESEARCH.

231
00:13:16,595 --> 00:13:18,000
THE FIRST CHANGE IS EXPECTED TO
COME THIS YEAR, WHEN THE U.S.
PUBLISHES NEW STANDARDS FOR
ENCRYPTION BECAUSE QUANTUM IS

232
00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,000
THE FIRST CHANGE IS EXPECTED TO
COME THIS YEAR, WHEN THE U.S.
PUBLISHES NEW STANDARDS FOR
ENCRYPTION BECAUSE QUANTUM IS

233
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,906
THE FIRST CHANGE IS EXPECTED TO
COME THIS YEAR, WHEN THE U.S.
PUBLISHES NEW STANDARDS FOR
ENCRYPTION BECAUSE QUANTUM IS

234
00:13:26,972 --> 00:13:30,000
EXPECTED ONE DAY TO BREAK THE
CODES THAT LOCK EVERYTHING FROM
NATIONAL SECRETS TO CREDIT
CARDS.

235
00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,811
EXPECTED ONE DAY TO BREAK THE
CODES THAT LOCK EVERYTHING FROM
NATIONAL SECRETS TO CREDIT
CARDS.

236
00:13:32,878 --> 00:13:36,000
THIS PAST DECEMBER, IBM UNVEILED
ITS QUANTUM SYSTEM 2, WITH THREE
TIMES THE QUBITS AS THE MACHINE
YOU SAW IN CLEVELAND.

237
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000
THIS PAST DECEMBER, IBM UNVEILED
ITS QUANTUM SYSTEM 2, WITH THREE
TIMES THE QUBITS AS THE MACHINE
YOU SAW IN CLEVELAND.

238
00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,423
THIS PAST DECEMBER, IBM UNVEILED
ITS QUANTUM SYSTEM 2, WITH THREE
TIMES THE QUBITS AS THE MACHINE
YOU SAW IN CLEVELAND.

239
00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:48,000
LAST YEAR, WE SAW SYSTEM 2 UNDER
CONSTRUCTION.
>> IT'S A MACHINE UNLIKE
ANYTHING WE'VE EVER BUILT.

240
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,097
LAST YEAR, WE SAW SYSTEM 2 UNDER
CONSTRUCTION.
>> IT'S A MACHINE UNLIKE
ANYTHING WE'VE EVER BUILT.

241
00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:54,000
>> AND THIS IS IT.
>> THIS IS IT.
>> IBM'S DARIO GIL TOLD US
SYSTEM 2 HAS THE ROOM TO EXPAND

242
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,738
>> AND THIS IS IT.
>> THIS IS IT.
>> IBM'S DARIO GIL TOLD US
SYSTEM 2 HAS THE ROOM TO EXPAND

243
00:13:59,805 --> 00:14:00,000
TO THOUSANDS OF QUBITS.
>> WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT'S GOING TO BE READY IN FIVE

244
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:06,000
TO THOUSANDS OF QUBITS.
>> WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT'S GOING TO BE READY IN FIVE

245
00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,013
TO THOUSANDS OF QUBITS.
>> WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT'S GOING TO BE READY IN FIVE

246
00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,000
YEARS AND ALWAYS WILL BE?
>> WE DON'T SEE AN OBSTACLE
RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD PREVENT US
FROM BUILDING SYSTEMS THAT WILL

247
00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,021
YEARS AND ALWAYS WILL BE?
>> WE DON'T SEE AN OBSTACLE
RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD PREVENT US
FROM BUILDING SYSTEMS THAT WILL

248
00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:18,000
HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND EVEN
100,000 QUBITS WORKING WITH EACH
OTHER.
SO, WE ARE HIGHLY CONFIDENT WE

249
00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,000
HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND EVEN
100,000 QUBITS WORKING WITH EACH
OTHER.
SO, WE ARE HIGHLY CONFIDENT WE

250
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,396
HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND EVEN
100,000 QUBITS WORKING WITH EACH
OTHER.
SO, WE ARE HIGHLY CONFIDENT WE

251
00:14:24,463 --> 00:14:30,000
WILL GET THERE.
>> OF ALL THE AMAZING THINGS WE
HEARD, IT WAS PHYSICIST MICHIO
KAKU WHO LED US DOWN THE PATH TO

252
00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,172
WILL GET THERE.
>> OF ALL THE AMAZING THINGS WE
HEARD, IT WAS PHYSICIST MICHIO
KAKU WHO LED US DOWN THE PATH TO

253
00:14:33,239 --> 00:14:36,000
THE BIGGEST IDEA OF ALL.
HE SAID WE WERE WALKING YOU
THERE A QUANTUM COMPUTER,
PROCESSING INFORMATION WITH

254
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,113
THE BIGGEST IDEA OF ALL.
HE SAID WE WERE WALKING YOU
THERE A QUANTUM COMPUTER,
PROCESSING INFORMATION WITH

255
00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:42,000
SUBATOMIC PARTICLES IS NOW THE
UNIVERSE WORKS.
>> WHEN I LOOK AT THE NIGHT SKY,
I SEE STARS.

256
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,219
SUBATOMIC PARTICLES IS NOW THE
UNIVERSE WORKS.
>> WHEN I LOOK AT THE NIGHT SKY,
I SEE STARS.

257
00:14:47,286 --> 00:14:48,000
I LOOK AT THE FLOWERS, THE
TREES, I REALIZE THAT IT'S ALL
QUANTUM.
THE SPLENDOR OF THE UNIVERSE

258
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:53,592
I LOOK AT THE FLOWERS, THE
TREES, I REALIZE THAT IT'S ALL
QUANTUM.
THE SPLENDOR OF THE UNIVERSE

259
00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:54,000
ITSELF.
THE LANGUAGE OF THE UNIVERSE IS
THE LANGUAGE OF THE QUANTUM.
>> LEARNING THAT LANGUAGE MAY

260
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,498
ITSELF.
THE LANGUAGE OF THE UNIVERSE IS
THE LANGUAGE OF THE QUANTUM.
>> LEARNING THAT LANGUAGE MAY

261
00:14:59,565 --> 00:15:00,000
BRING MORE THAN INCONCEIVABLE
SPEED.
REVERSE ENGINEERING NATURE'S
COMPUTER COULD BE A WINDOW ON

262
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,000
BRING MORE THAN INCONCEIVABLE
SPEED.
REVERSE ENGINEERING NATURE'S
COMPUTER COULD BE A WINDOW ON

263
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,673
BRING MORE THAN INCONCEIVABLE
SPEED.
REVERSE ENGINEERING NATURE'S
COMPUTER COULD BE A WINDOW ON

264
00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:12,000
CREATION ITSELF.
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE HAS BEEN A
MARKED MAN FOR NEARLY HALF HIS
LIFE.

265
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:18,000
CREATION ITSELF.
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE HAS BEEN A
MARKED MAN FOR NEARLY HALF HIS
LIFE.

266
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,555
CREATION ITSELF.
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE HAS BEEN A
MARKED MAN FOR NEARLY HALF HIS
LIFE.

267
00:15:23,622 --> 00:15:24,000
IN 1989, IRAN'S LEADER,
AYATOLLAH CHOEMNY, DECLARED HIS
NOVEL BLASPHEMOUS, AN INSULT TO
ISLAM.

268
00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:30,000
IN 1989, IRAN'S LEADER,
AYATOLLAH CHOEMNY, DECLARED HIS
NOVEL BLASPHEMOUS, AN INSULT TO
ISLAM.

269
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,065
IN 1989, IRAN'S LEADER,
AYATOLLAH CHOEMNY, DECLARED HIS
NOVEL BLASPHEMOUS, AN INSULT TO
ISLAM.

270
00:15:33,132 --> 00:15:36,000
RUSHDIE WENT INTO HIDING WITH
AROUND THE CLOCK POLICE
PROTECTION FOR TEN YEARS.
HE EVENTUALLY MOVED TO THE U.S.

271
00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,506
RUSHDIE WENT INTO HIDING WITH
AROUND THE CLOCK POLICE
PROTECTION FOR TEN YEARS.
HE EVENTUALLY MOVED TO THE U.S.

272
00:15:40,572 --> 00:15:42,000
AND THOUGHT HE WAS SAFE.
BUT IN AUGUST 2022, AS HE WAS
ABOUT TO SPEAK AT A LITERARY
FESTIVAL, SALMAN RUSHDIE WAS

273
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,713
AND THOUGHT HE WAS SAFE.
BUT IN AUGUST 2022, AS HE WAS
ABOUT TO SPEAK AT A LITERARY
FESTIVAL, SALMAN RUSHDIE WAS

274
00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:48,000
ATTACKED BY A MUSLIM MAN WITH A
KNIFE.
RUSHDIE, WHO IS NOW 77, LOST HIS
RIGHT EYE AND CAME CLOSE TO

275
00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:54,000
ATTACKED BY A MUSLIM MAN WITH A
KNIFE.
RUSHDIE, WHO IS NOW 77, LOST HIS
RIGHT EYE AND CAME CLOSE TO

276
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,020
ATTACKED BY A MUSLIM MAN WITH A
KNIFE.
RUSHDIE, WHO IS NOW 77, LOST HIS
RIGHT EYE AND CAME CLOSE TO

277
00:15:55,087 --> 00:16:00,000
DYING.
HE'S COME TO TERMS WITH THE
ATTEMPT ON HIS LIFE BY WRITING A
BOOK ABOUT IT, CALLED SIMPLY,

278
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,528
DYING.
HE'S COME TO TERMS WITH THE
ATTEMPT ON HIS LIFE BY WRITING A
BOOK ABOUT IT, CALLED SIMPLY,

279
00:16:02,594 --> 00:16:06,000
"KNIFE," WHICH CAME OUT IN
APRIL.
WE SPOKE TO RUSHDIE EARLIER THIS
YEAR IN HIS FIRST TELEVISION

280
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,500
"KNIFE," WHICH CAME OUT IN
APRIL.
WE SPOKE TO RUSHDIE EARLIER THIS
YEAR IN HIS FIRST TELEVISION

281
00:16:08,567 --> 00:16:12,000
INTERVIEW SINCE THE ATTACK.
>> YOU HAD HAD A DREAM TWO DAYS,
I THINK IT WAS, BEFORE THE
ATTACK.

282
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,376
INTERVIEW SINCE THE ATTACK.
>> YOU HAD HAD A DREAM TWO DAYS,
I THINK IT WAS, BEFORE THE
ATTACK.

283
00:16:17,443 --> 00:16:18,000
WHAT WAS THE DREAM?
>> I KIND OF HAD A PREMONITION.
I HAD A DREAM OF BEING ATTACKED
IN A NAZI THEATER.

284
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,912
WHAT WAS THE DREAM?
>> I KIND OF HAD A PREMONITION.
I HAD A DREAM OF BEING ATTACKED
IN A NAZI THEATER.

285
00:16:19,978 --> 00:16:24,000
IT WAS A KIND OF ROMAN EMPIRE
DREAM.
IT'S AS IF I WAS IN THE
COLOSSEUM AND WAS JUST SOMEBODY

286
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,452
IT WAS A KIND OF ROMAN EMPIRE
DREAM.
IT'S AS IF I WAS IN THE
COLOSSEUM AND WAS JUST SOMEBODY

287
00:16:26,518 --> 00:16:30,000
WITH A SPEAR STABBING DOWNWARDS
AND I WAS ROLLING AROUND ON THE
FLOOR TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM
HIM.

288
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,056
WITH A SPEAR STABBING DOWNWARDS
AND I WAS ROLLING AROUND ON THE
FLOOR TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM
HIM.

289
00:16:31,123 --> 00:16:36,000
AND I WOKE UP AND WAS QUITE
SHAKEN BY IT.
AND I HAD TO GO TO CHAUTAUQUA.
I SAID TO MY WIFE, ELIZA, I

290
00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,300
AND I WOKE UP AND WAS QUITE
SHAKEN BY IT.
AND I HAD TO GO TO CHAUTAUQUA.
I SAID TO MY WIFE, ELIZA, I

291
00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:42,000
SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO
GO.
>> BECAUSE OF THE DREAM?
>> BECAUSE OF THE DREAM.

292
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,940
SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO
GO.
>> BECAUSE OF THE DREAM?
>> BECAUSE OF THE DREAM.

293
00:16:48,006 --> 00:16:54,000
BUT THEN I THOUGHT, DON'T BE
SILLY.
IT'S A DREAM.
>> SALMAN RUSHDIE HAD BEEN

294
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,947
BUT THEN I THOUGHT, DON'T BE
SILLY.
IT'S A DREAM.
>> SALMAN RUSHDIE HAD BEEN

295
00:16:55,013 --> 00:17:00,000
INVITED TO THE TRANQUIL TOWN OF
CHAUTAUQUA, CLOSE TO LAKE ERIE,
TO SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
A SUBJECT HE KNOWS TOO WELL,

296
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,724
INVITED TO THE TRANQUIL TOWN OF
CHAUTAUQUA, CLOSE TO LAKE ERIE,
TO SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
A SUBJECT HE KNOWS TOO WELL,

297
00:17:05,791 --> 00:17:06,000
PROTECTING THE WRITERS WHOSE
LIVES ARE UNDER THREAT.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY ANXIETY
BEING IN SUCH A PUBLIC SPACE?

298
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,296
PROTECTING THE WRITERS WHOSE
LIVES ARE UNDER THREAT.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY ANXIETY
BEING IN SUCH A PUBLIC SPACE?

299
00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:12,000
>> NOT REALLY.
IN THE MORE THAN 20 YEARS THAT
I'VE BEEN LIVING IN AMERICA,
I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

300
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,032
>> NOT REALLY.
IN THE MORE THAN 20 YEARS THAT
I'VE BEEN LIVING IN AMERICA,
I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

301
00:17:14,099 --> 00:17:18,000
>> YOU HAVEN'T HAD SECURITY
AROUND YOU, CLOSE PROTECTION
DETAIL, FOR A LONG TIME?
>> LONG TIME, LONG TIME.

302
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,838
>> YOU HAVEN'T HAD SECURITY
AROUND YOU, CLOSE PROTECTION
DETAIL, FOR A LONG TIME?
>> LONG TIME, LONG TIME.

303
00:17:19,905 --> 00:17:23,542
WHAT HAPPENS IN MANY PLACES THAT
YOU GO AND LECTURE IS THAT
THEY'RE USED TO HAVING A CERTAIN
DEGREE OF SECURITY, VENUE

304
00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:24,000
SECURITY.
IN THIS CASE, THERE WASN'T ANY.
>> THE IRONY, OF COURSE, IS YOU
WERE THERE TO TALK ABOUT WRITERS

305
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,713
SECURITY.
IN THIS CASE, THERE WASN'T ANY.
>> THE IRONY, OF COURSE, IS YOU
WERE THERE TO TALK ABOUT WRITERS

306
00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:30,000
IN DANGER.
>> YEAH, EXACTLY, AND THE NEED
FOR WRITERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES
TO HAVE SAFE SPACES IN AMERICA,

307
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,621
IN DANGER.
>> YEAH, EXACTLY, AND THE NEED
FOR WRITERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES
TO HAVE SAFE SPACES IN AMERICA,

308
00:17:35,687 --> 00:17:36,000
AMONGST OTHER PLACES.
AND THEN, YEAH, IT JUST TURNED
OUT NOT TO BE A SAFE SPACE FOR
ME.

309
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:42,000
AMONGST OTHER PLACES.
AND THEN, YEAH, IT JUST TURNED
OUT NOT TO BE A SAFE SPACE FOR
ME.

310
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,262
AMONGST OTHER PLACES.
AND THEN, YEAH, IT JUST TURNED
OUT NOT TO BE A SAFE SPACE FOR
ME.

311
00:17:43,328 --> 00:17:48,000
>> FOR YEARS, NO PLACE WAS SAFE
FOR SALMAN RUSHDIE, WHOSE
SPRAWLING 600 P-PAGE NOVEL,
"SATANIC VERSES," OFFENDED SOME

312
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,972
>> FOR YEARS, NO PLACE WAS SAFE
FOR SALMAN RUSHDIE, WHOSE
SPRAWLING 600 P-PAGE NOVEL,
"SATANIC VERSES," OFFENDED SOME

313
00:17:54,039 --> 00:18:00,000
MUSLIMS FOR ITS DEPICTION OF THE
PROPHET MUHAMMAD.
A FATWA, A DECREE CALLING FOR
RUSHDIE'S DEATH IN 1989.

314
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:06,000
MUSLIMS FOR ITS DEPICTION OF THE
PROPHET MUHAMMAD.
A FATWA, A DECREE CALLING FOR
RUSHDIE'S DEATH IN 1989.

315
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,454
MUSLIMS FOR ITS DEPICTION OF THE
PROPHET MUHAMMAD.
A FATWA, A DECREE CALLING FOR
RUSHDIE'S DEATH IN 1989.

316
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,000
THERE WERE WORLDWIDE PROTESTS
FROM LONDON TOÂ -- THE BOOK'S
JAPANESE TRANSLATOR WAS
MURDERED, AND OTHERS ASSOCIATED

317
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,892
THERE WERE WORLDWIDE PROTESTS
FROM LONDON TOÂ -- THE BOOK'S
JAPANESE TRANSLATOR WAS
MURDERED, AND OTHERS ASSOCIATED

318
00:18:13,959 --> 00:18:18,000
WITH IT WERE ATTACKED.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THAT IT
WOULD CAUSE VIOLENCE?
>> NO.

319
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,198
WITH IT WERE ATTACKED.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THAT IT
WOULD CAUSE VIOLENCE?
>> NO.

320
00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:24,000
I HAD NO IDEA.
I THOUGHT PROBABLY SOME
CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE
WOULDN'T LIKE IT.

321
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,837
I HAD NO IDEA.
I THOUGHT PROBABLY SOME
CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE
WOULDN'T LIKE IT.

322
00:18:24,903 --> 00:18:28,006
BUT THEY DIDN'T LIKE ANYTHING I
WROTE ANYWAY.
SO, I THOUGHT, WELL, THEY DON'T
HAVE TO READ IT.

323
00:18:28,073 --> 00:18:30,000
>> WERE YOU NAIVE?
>> PROBABLY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY LOOKING
BACK.

324
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,080
>> WERE YOU NAIVE?
>> PROBABLY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY LOOKING
BACK.

325
00:18:35,147 --> 00:18:36,000
NOTHING LIKE THIS HAD EVER
HAPPENED TO ANYBODY.
AND OF COURSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE
WHO ATTACKED THE BOOK DID SO

326
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:42,000
NOTHING LIKE THIS HAD EVER
HAPPENED TO ANYBODY.
AND OF COURSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE
WHO ATTACKED THE BOOK DID SO

327
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,055
NOTHING LIKE THIS HAD EVER
HAPPENED TO ANYBODY.
AND OF COURSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE
WHO ATTACKED THE BOOK DID SO

328
00:18:43,121 --> 00:18:47,292
WITHOUT READING IT.
I'M OFTEN TOLD THAT I'M INTENDED
TO INSULT, OFFEND PEOPLE.
MY VIEW IS, IF I NEED TO INSULT

329
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,000
YOU, I CAN DO IT REALLY QUICKLY.
I DON'T NEED TO SPEND FIVE YEARS
OF MY LIFE TRYING TO WRITE A
600-PAGE BOOK TO INSULT YOU.

330
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:54,000
YOU, I CAN DO IT REALLY QUICKLY.
I DON'T NEED TO SPEND FIVE YEARS
OF MY LIFE TRYING TO WRITE A
600-PAGE BOOK TO INSULT YOU.

331
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,568
YOU, I CAN DO IT REALLY QUICKLY.
I DON'T NEED TO SPEND FIVE YEARS
OF MY LIFE TRYING TO WRITE A
600-PAGE BOOK TO INSULT YOU.

332
00:18:56,635 --> 00:19:00,000
>> RUSHDIE WAS LIVING IN LONDON
WHEN HE WENT INTO HIDING.
AND FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, THE
BRITISH GOVERNMENT PROVIDED HIM

333
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,141
>> RUSHDIE WAS LIVING IN LONDON
WHEN HE WENT INTO HIDING.
AND FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, THE
BRITISH GOVERNMENT PROVIDED HIM

334
00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:06,000
WITH 24-HOUR POLICE PROTECTION.
>> DID PEOPLE TRY TO KILL YOU?
>> YES.
THERE WERE MAYBE AS MANY AS HALF

335
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,647
WITH 24-HOUR POLICE PROTECTION.
>> DID PEOPLE TRY TO KILL YOU?
>> YES.
THERE WERE MAYBE AS MANY AS HALF

336
00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:12,000
A DOZEN SERIOUS ASSASSINATION
ATTEMPTS, WHICH WERE NOT RANDOM
PEOPLE.
THEY WERE STATE SPONSORED

337
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,622
A DOZEN SERIOUS ASSASSINATION
ATTEMPTS, WHICH WERE NOT RANDOM
PEOPLE.
THEY WERE STATE SPONSORED

338
00:19:16,688 --> 00:19:18,000
TERRORISM PROFESSIONALS.
>> AFTER DIPLOMATIC
NEGOTIATIONS, THE IRANIAN STATE
CALLED OFF ITS ASSASSINS IN

339
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,691
TERRORISM PROFESSIONALS.
>> AFTER DIPLOMATIC
NEGOTIATIONS, THE IRANIAN STATE
CALLED OFF ITS ASSASSINS IN

340
00:19:19,758 --> 00:19:24,000
1988.
RUSHDIE FINALLY CAME OUT OF THE
SHADOWS.
HE MOVED TO NEW YORK AND FOR THE

341
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,998
1988.
RUSHDIE FINALLY CAME OUT OF THE
SHADOWS.
HE MOVED TO NEW YORK AND FOR THE

342
00:19:26,064 --> 00:19:30,000
NEXT TWO DECADES LIVED OPENLY.
HE WAS A MAN ABOUT TOWN.
HE CONTINUED WRITING AND BECAME
A CELEBRATED ADVOCATE FOR

343
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,871
NEXT TWO DECADES LIVED OPENLY.
HE WAS A MAN ABOUT TOWN.
HE CONTINUED WRITING AND BECAME
A CELEBRATED ADVOCATE FOR

344
00:19:32,938 --> 00:19:36,000
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
SO, WHEN HE RECEIVED THE
INVITATION TO SPEAK AT
CHAUTAUQUA IN AUGUST OF 2022, HE

345
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,144
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
SO, WHEN HE RECEIVED THE
INVITATION TO SPEAK AT
CHAUTAUQUA IN AUGUST OF 2022, HE

346
00:19:39,211 --> 00:19:42,000
GLADLY ACCEPTED.
>> I WAS AT STAGE RIGHT.
>> IN HIS NEW BOOK, "KNIFE," HE
DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.

347
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,000
GLADLY ACCEPTED.
>> I WAS AT STAGE RIGHT.
>> IN HIS NEW BOOK, "KNIFE," HE
DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.

348
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,187
GLADLY ACCEPTED.
>> I WAS AT STAGE RIGHT.
>> IN HIS NEW BOOK, "KNIFE," HE
DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.

349
00:19:49,254 --> 00:19:54,000
>> THEN IN THE CORNER OF MY
RIGHT EYE, THE LAST THING MY
RIGHT EYE WOULD EVER SEE, I SAW
THE MAN IN BLACK RUNNING TOWARD

350
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,459
>> THEN IN THE CORNER OF MY
RIGHT EYE, THE LAST THING MY
RIGHT EYE WOULD EVER SEE, I SAW
THE MAN IN BLACK RUNNING TOWARD

351
00:19:54,526 --> 00:20:00,000
ME DOWN THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF
THE SEATING AREA.
BLACK CLOTHES, BLACK FACE MASK.
HE WAS COMING IN HARD AND LOW, A

352
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,867
ME DOWN THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF
THE SEATING AREA.
BLACK CLOTHES, BLACK FACE MASK.
HE WAS COMING IN HARD AND LOW, A

353
00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:06,000
SQUAT MISSILE.
I CONFESS, I HAD SOMETIMES
IMAGINED MY ASSASSIN RISING UP
IN SOME PUBLIC FORUM OR OTHER

354
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,642
SQUAT MISSILE.
I CONFESS, I HAD SOMETIMES
IMAGINED MY ASSASSIN RISING UP
IN SOME PUBLIC FORUM OR OTHER

355
00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:12,000
AND COMING FOR ME IN JUST THIS
WAY.
SO, MY FIRST THOUGHT WHEN I SAW
THIS MURDEROUS SHAPE RUSHING

356
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,915
AND COMING FOR ME IN JUST THIS
WAY.
SO, MY FIRST THOUGHT WHEN I SAW
THIS MURDEROUS SHAPE RUSHING

357
00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:18,000
TOWARDS ME WAS, SO IT'S YOU.
HERE YOU ARE.
>> SO, IT'S YOU.
HERE YOU ARE.

358
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,688
TOWARDS ME WAS, SO IT'S YOU.
HERE YOU ARE.
>> SO, IT'S YOU.
HERE YOU ARE.

359
00:20:22,754 --> 00:20:24,000
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S LIKE YOU'D BEEN WAITING
FOR IT.
>> YEAH.

360
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,661
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S LIKE YOU'D BEEN WAITING
FOR IT.
>> YEAH.

361
00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:30,000
THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE.
IT FELT LIKE SOMETHING COMING
OUT OF THE DISTANT PAST AND
TRYING TO DRAG ME BACK IN TIME,

362
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,498
THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE.
IT FELT LIKE SOMETHING COMING
OUT OF THE DISTANT PAST AND
TRYING TO DRAG ME BACK IN TIME,

363
00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,000
IF YOU LIKE, BACK INTO THAT
DISTANT PAST, IN ORDER TO KILL
ME.
AND WHEN HE GOT TO ME, HE

364
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,171
IF YOU LIKE, BACK INTO THAT
DISTANT PAST, IN ORDER TO KILL
ME.
AND WHEN HE GOT TO ME, HE

365
00:20:39,237 --> 00:20:42,000
BASICALLY HIT ME VERY HARD HERE.
AND INITIALLY I THOUGHT I'D BEEN
PUNCHED.
>> YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE A

366
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,612
BASICALLY HIT ME VERY HARD HERE.
AND INITIALLY I THOUGHT I'D BEEN
PUNCHED.
>> YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE A

367
00:20:46,678 --> 00:20:48,000
KNIFE.
>> I DIDN'T SEE THE KNIFE.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I SAW
BLOOD COMING OUT THAT THERE HAD

368
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,000
KNIFE.
>> I DIDN'T SEE THE KNIFE.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I SAW
BLOOD COMING OUT THAT THERE HAD

369
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,953
KNIFE.
>> I DIDN'T SEE THE KNIFE.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I SAW
BLOOD COMING OUT THAT THERE HAD

370
00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:59,291
BEEN A KNIFE IN HIS FIST.
>> SO, WHERE WAS THAT STAB?
>> HERE.
>> IN YOUR NECK?

371
00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:00,000
>> IN MY NECK, YEAH.
THEN THERE WERE A LOT MORE.
THE WORST WOUND WAS THERE WAS A
BIG SLASH WOUND, LIKE THIS

372
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:06,000
>> IN MY NECK, YEAH.
THEN THERE WERE A LOT MORE.
THE WORST WOUND WAS THERE WAS A
BIG SLASH WOUND, LIKE THIS

373
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,000
>> IN MY NECK, YEAH.
THEN THERE WERE A LOT MORE.
THE WORST WOUND WAS THERE WAS A
BIG SLASH WOUND, LIKE THIS

374
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,270
>> IN MY NECK, YEAH.
THEN THERE WERE A LOT MORE.
THE WORST WOUND WAS THERE WAS A
BIG SLASH WOUND, LIKE THIS

375
00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:15,774
ACROSS MY NECK.
AND THERE'S A PUNCTURE, STAB
WOUND HERE.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S THE

376
00:21:15,841 --> 00:21:18,000
ATTACK ON MY EYE.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER BEING STABBED
IN THE EYE?
>> NO.

377
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,211
ATTACK ON MY EYE.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER BEING STABBED
IN THE EYE?
>> NO.

378
00:21:19,277 --> 00:21:23,615
I REMEMBER FALLING.
THEN I REMEMBER NOT KNOWING WHAT
HAD HAPPENED TO MY EYE.
>> HE WAS ALSO STABBED IN HIS

379
00:21:23,682 --> 00:21:24,000
HAND, CHEST, ABDOMEN, AND THIGH,
15 WOUNDS IN ALL.
>> HE WAS, BOTH, STABBING AND
ALSO SLASHING.

380
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,387
HAND, CHEST, ABDOMEN, AND THIGH,
15 WOUNDS IN ALL.
>> HE WAS, BOTH, STABBING AND
ALSO SLASHING.

381
00:21:28,453 --> 00:21:30,000
>> I THINK HE WAS JUST
WILDLY --
>> THE ATTACK LASTED 27 SECONDS.
TO FEEL JUST HOW LONG THAT

382
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:36,000
>> I THINK HE WAS JUST
WILDLY --
>> THE ATTACK LASTED 27 SECONDS.
TO FEEL JUST HOW LONG THAT

383
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,194
>> I THINK HE WAS JUST
WILDLY --
>> THE ATTACK LASTED 27 SECONDS.
TO FEEL JUST HOW LONG THAT

384
00:21:36,261 --> 00:21:42,000
IS --
>> THIS IS WHAT 27 SECONDS IS.

385
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,869
IS --
>> THIS IS WHAT 27 SECONDS IS.

386
00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:48,000
[ SILENCE ]

387
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:54,000
[ SILENCE ]

388
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,382
[ SILENCE ]

389
00:22:02,854 --> 00:22:06,000
[ SILENCE ]
>> THAT'S QUITE A LONG TIME.
THAT'S THE EXTRAORDINARY
HALF-MINUTE OF INTIMACY IN WHICH

390
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,000
[ SILENCE ]
>> THAT'S QUITE A LONG TIME.
THAT'S THE EXTRAORDINARY
HALF-MINUTE OF INTIMACY IN WHICH

391
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,766
[ SILENCE ]
>> THAT'S QUITE A LONG TIME.
THAT'S THE EXTRAORDINARY
HALF-MINUTE OF INTIMACY IN WHICH

392
00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:18,000
LIFE MEETS DEATH.
>> WHAT STOPPED IT FROM BEING
LONGER?
>> THE AUDIENCE PULLING HIM OFF

393
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,672
LIFE MEETS DEATH.
>> WHAT STOPPED IT FROM BEING
LONGER?
>> THE AUDIENCE PULLING HIM OFF

394
00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:24,000
ME.
>> STRANGERS TO YOU.
>> TOTAL -- TO THIS DAY I DON'T
KNOW THEIR NAMES.

395
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,379
ME.
>> STRANGERS TO YOU.
>> TOTAL -- TO THIS DAY I DON'T
KNOW THEIR NAMES.

396
00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:30,000
>> SOME OF THE STRANGERS
RESTRAINED THE ATTACKER, WHILE
OTHERS TRIED TO STEM THE FLOW OF
RUSHDIE'S BLOOD.

397
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,319
>> SOME OF THE STRANGERS
RESTRAINED THE ATTACKER, WHILE
OTHERS TRIED TO STEM THE FLOW OF
RUSHDIE'S BLOOD.

398
00:22:34,386 --> 00:22:36,000
>> THERE WAS REALLY A LOT OF
BLOOD.
>> YOU WERE ACTUALLY WATCHING
YOUR BLOOD?

399
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,557
>> THERE WAS REALLY A LOT OF
BLOOD.
>> YOU WERE ACTUALLY WATCHING
YOUR BLOOD?

400
00:22:38,623 --> 00:22:42,000
>> I WAS WATCHING IT SPREAD.
AND THEN I REMEMBER THINKING
THAT I WAS PROBABLY DYING.
AND IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE

401
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,128
>> I WAS WATCHING IT SPREAD.
AND THEN I REMEMBER THINKING
THAT I WAS PROBABLY DYING.
AND IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE

402
00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:47,733
IT WAS QUITE MATTER OF FACT.
IT WASN'T LIKE I WAS TERRIFIED
OF IT OR WHATEVER.
AND YEAH, THERE WAS NOTHING.

403
00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:48,000
NO HEAVENLY CHOIRS.
NO PEARLY GATES.
I MEAN, I'M NOT A SUPERNATURAL
PERSON, YOU KNOW.

404
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,505
NO HEAVENLY CHOIRS.
NO PEARLY GATES.
I MEAN, I'M NOT A SUPERNATURAL
PERSON, YOU KNOW.

405
00:22:53,572 --> 00:22:54,000
I BELIEVE THAT DEATH COMES AS
THE END.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT HAPPENED
THAT MADE ME CHANGE MY MIND

406
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,242
I BELIEVE THAT DEATH COMES AS
THE END.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT HAPPENED
THAT MADE ME CHANGE MY MIND

407
00:22:57,309 --> 00:23:00,000
ABOUT THAT.
>> YOU HAVE NOT HAD A
REVELATION?
>> I HAVE NOT HAD ANY REVELATION

408
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,147
ABOUT THAT.
>> YOU HAVE NOT HAD A
REVELATION?
>> I HAVE NOT HAD ANY REVELATION

409
00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:06,000
EXCEPT THAT THERE'S NO
REVELATION TO BE HAD.
>> HIS ATTACKER, THE MAN IN
BLACK, WAS HUSTLED OFF THE

410
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,319
EXCEPT THAT THERE'S NO
REVELATION TO BE HAD.
>> HIS ATTACKER, THE MAN IN
BLACK, WAS HUSTLED OFF THE

411
00:23:07,385 --> 00:23:12,000
STAGE.
>> IN THE BOOK, YOU DO NOT USE
THE ATTACKER'S NAME.
>> YEAH.

412
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,160
STAGE.
>> IN THE BOOK, YOU DO NOT USE
THE ATTACKER'S NAME.
>> YEAH.

413
00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:18,000
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
WANT HIS NAME IN MY BOOK.
AND I DON'T USE IT IN
CONVERSATION EITHER.

414
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,898
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
WANT HIS NAME IN MY BOOK.
AND I DON'T USE IT IN
CONVERSATION EITHER.

415
00:23:19,965 --> 00:23:22,534
>> THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU TO
NOT GIVE HIM SPACE IN YOUR
BRAIN.
>> YEAH.

416
00:23:22,601 --> 00:23:24,000
HE AND I HAD 27 SECONDS
TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT.
I DON'T NEED TO GIVE HIM ANY

417
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,606
HE AND I HAD 27 SECONDS
TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT.
I DON'T NEED TO GIVE HIM ANY

418
00:23:27,672 --> 00:23:30,000
MORE OF MY TIME.
>> PARAMEDICS FLEW RUSHDIE TO A
HOSPITAL IN ERIE, PENNSYLVANIA,
40 MILES AWAY, WHERE A TEAM OF

419
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,000
MORE OF MY TIME.
>> PARAMEDICS FLEW RUSHDIE TO A
HOSPITAL IN ERIE, PENNSYLVANIA,
40 MILES AWAY, WHERE A TEAM OF

420
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,049
MORE OF MY TIME.
>> PARAMEDICS FLEW RUSHDIE TO A
HOSPITAL IN ERIE, PENNSYLVANIA,
40 MILES AWAY, WHERE A TEAM OF

421
00:23:38,116 --> 00:23:42,000
DOCTORS BATTLED FOR EIGHT HOURS
TO SAVE HIS LIFE.
WHEN HE FINALLY CAME OUT OF
SURGERY, HIS WIFE, ELIZA, A POET

422
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,287
DOCTORS BATTLED FOR EIGHT HOURS
TO SAVE HIS LIFE.
WHEN HE FINALLY CAME OUT OF
SURGERY, HIS WIFE, ELIZA, A POET

423
00:23:42,354 --> 00:23:48,000
AND NOVELIST, WAS WAITING.
>> I MEAN, HE WASN'T MOVING, AND
HE WAS JUST LAID OUT.
>> HE LOOKED HALF DEAD TO YOU.

424
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,330
AND NOVELIST, WAS WAITING.
>> I MEAN, HE WASN'T MOVING, AND
HE WAS JUST LAID OUT.
>> HE LOOKED HALF DEAD TO YOU.

425
00:23:52,397 --> 00:23:54,000
>> YES, HE DID.
HE WAS A DIFFERENT COLOR.
HE WAS COLD.
I MEAN, HIS FACE WAS STAPLED --

426
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,437
>> YES, HE DID.
HE WAS A DIFFERENT COLOR.
HE WAS COLD.
I MEAN, HIS FACE WAS STAPLED --

427
00:23:59,504 --> 00:24:00,000
JUST STAPLES HOLDING HIS FACE
TOGETHER.
>> RUSHDIE WAS ON A VENTILATOR,
UNABLE TO SPEAK.

428
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,844
JUST STAPLES HOLDING HIS FACE
TOGETHER.
>> RUSHDIE WAS ON A VENTILATOR,
UNABLE TO SPEAK.

429
00:24:05,911 --> 00:24:06,000
ELIZA AND THE DOCTORS HAD NO
IDEA WHETHER THE KNIFE THAT HAD
PENETRATED HIS EYE HAD DAMAGED
HIS BRAIN.

430
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:12,000
ELIZA AND THE DOCTORS HAD NO
IDEA WHETHER THE KNIFE THAT HAD
PENETRATED HIS EYE HAD DAMAGED
HIS BRAIN.

431
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,717
ELIZA AND THE DOCTORS HAD NO
IDEA WHETHER THE KNIFE THAT HAD
PENETRATED HIS EYE HAD DAMAGED
HIS BRAIN.

432
00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:18,000
>> SOMEONE FROM THE STAFF SAID
THAT WE WOULD USE THIS SYSTEM OF
WIGGLING THE TOES.
>> TO COMMUNICATE?

433
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,926
>> SOMEONE FROM THE STAFF SAID
THAT WE WOULD USE THIS SYSTEM OF
WIGGLING THE TOES.
>> TO COMMUNICATE?

434
00:24:20,992 --> 00:24:24,000
>> TO COMMUNICATE.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST
QUESTION YOU ASKED TO GET A
WIGGLE?

435
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,332
>> TO COMMUNICATE.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST
QUESTION YOU ASKED TO GET A
WIGGLE?

436
00:24:27,399 --> 00:24:30,000
>> I THINK I SAID, SALMAN, IT'S
ELIZA, CAN YOU HEAR ME.
AND THERE WAS -- THERE WAS A
WIGGLE.

437
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,904
>> I THINK I SAID, SALMAN, IT'S
ELIZA, CAN YOU HEAR ME.
AND THERE WAS -- THERE WAS A
WIGGLE.

438
00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:36,000
AND ASKED HIM, I THINK, CAN
YOU -- DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU
ARE?
WIGGLED.

439
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,346
AND ASKED HIM, I THINK, CAN
YOU -- DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU
ARE?
WIGGLED.

440
00:24:41,413 --> 00:24:42,000
AND IT WAS VERY BASIC, SIMPLE
QUESTIONS.
>> YOU CAN'T EXPRESS YOURSELF
WITH ANY SUBTLETY WITH YOUR

441
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,251
AND IT WAS VERY BASIC, SIMPLE
QUESTIONS.
>> YOU CAN'T EXPRESS YOURSELF
WITH ANY SUBTLETY WITH YOUR

442
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:48,000
TOES.
>> WHICH IS YOUR FAVORITE THING.
>> AFTER 18 DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL
AND THREE WEEKS IN REHAB,

443
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,455
TOES.
>> WHICH IS YOUR FAVORITE THING.
>> AFTER 18 DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL
AND THREE WEEKS IN REHAB,

444
00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:54,000
RUSHDIE WAS DISCHARGED.
>> ONE OF THE SURGEONS WHO HAD
SAVED MY LIFE SAID TO ME, FIRST
YOU WERE REALLY UNLUCKY.

445
00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,000
RUSHDIE WAS DISCHARGED.
>> ONE OF THE SURGEONS WHO HAD
SAVED MY LIFE SAID TO ME, FIRST
YOU WERE REALLY UNLUCKY.

446
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,066
RUSHDIE WAS DISCHARGED.
>> ONE OF THE SURGEONS WHO HAD
SAVED MY LIFE SAID TO ME, FIRST
YOU WERE REALLY UNLUCKY.

447
00:25:01,132 --> 00:25:06,000
THEN YOU WERE REALLY LUCKY.
I SAID, WHAT'S THE LUCKY PART?
HE SAID, THE LUCKY PART IS THAT
THE MAN WHO ATTACKED YOU HAD NO

448
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,407
THEN YOU WERE REALLY LUCKY.
I SAID, WHAT'S THE LUCKY PART?
HE SAID, THE LUCKY PART IS THAT
THE MAN WHO ATTACKED YOU HAD NO

449
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:12,000
IDEA HOW TO KILL A MAN WITH A
KNIFE.
>> YOU'RE NOT ABELIEVER IN
MIRACLES, BUT YOU WRITE IN THE

450
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,778
IDEA HOW TO KILL A MAN WITH A
KNIFE.
>> YOU'RE NOT ABELIEVER IN
MIRACLES, BUT YOU WRITE IN THE

451
00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:18,000
BOOK BELIEVE THIS IS A MIRACLE.
>> THIS IS A CONTRADICTION.
HOW DOES SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T
BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL

452
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,217
BOOK BELIEVE THIS IS A MIRACLE.
>> THIS IS A CONTRADICTION.
HOW DOES SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T
BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL

453
00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:24,000
ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT
SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED THAT
FEELS LIKE A MIRACLE?
AND I CERTAINLY DON'T FEEL THAT

454
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,223
ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT
SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED THAT
FEELS LIKE A MIRACLE?
AND I CERTAINLY DON'T FEEL THAT

455
00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:30,000
SOME HAND REACHED DOWN FROM THE
SKIES AND GUIDED ME.
BUT I DO THINK SOMETHING
HAPPENED WHICH WASN'T SUPPOSED

456
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,762
SOME HAND REACHED DOWN FROM THE
SKIES AND GUIDED ME.
BUT I DO THINK SOMETHING
HAPPENED WHICH WASN'T SUPPOSED

457
00:25:30,829 --> 00:25:36,000
TO HAPPEN.
AND I HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR
IT.
>> HIS ATTACKER WAS A

458
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,101
TO HAPPEN.
AND I HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR
IT.
>> HIS ATTACKER WAS A

459
00:25:36,167 --> 00:25:41,439
24-YEAR-OLD FROM NEW JERSEY, WHO
LIVED IN HIS MOTHER'S BASEMENT.
HE'S BELIEVED TO BE A LONE WOLF.
HE'S PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO

460
00:25:41,506 --> 00:25:42,000
ATTEMPTED MURDER AND IS AWAITING
TRIAL.
IN AN INTERVIEW, HE TOLD "THE
NEW YORK POST," HE'D ONLY READ A

461
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:48,000
ATTEMPTED MURDER AND IS AWAITING
TRIAL.
IN AN INTERVIEW, HE TOLD "THE
NEW YORK POST," HE'D ONLY READ A

462
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,280
ATTEMPTED MURDER AND IS AWAITING
TRIAL.
IN AN INTERVIEW, HE TOLD "THE
NEW YORK POST," HE'D ONLY READ A

463
00:25:48,346 --> 00:25:54,000
COUPLE OF PAGES OF "THE SATANIC
VERSES," AND SEEN SOME CLIPS OF
RUSHDIE ON YOUTUBE.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE HIM VERY

464
00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,000
COUPLE OF PAGES OF "THE SATANIC
VERSES," AND SEEN SOME CLIPS OF
RUSHDIE ON YOUTUBE.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE HIM VERY

465
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,593
COUPLE OF PAGES OF "THE SATANIC
VERSES," AND SEEN SOME CLIPS OF
RUSHDIE ON YOUTUBE.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE HIM VERY

466
00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:06,000
MUCH BECAUSE RUSHDIE HAD
ATTACKED ISLAM.
>> DOES IT MATTER TO YOU WHAT
HIS MOTIVE WAS?

467
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,331
MUCH BECAUSE RUSHDIE HAD
ATTACKED ISLAM.
>> DOES IT MATTER TO YOU WHAT
HIS MOTIVE WAS?

468
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:11,536
>> I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING TO
ME BECAUSE IT'S A MYSTERY.
IF I HAD WRITTEN A CHARACTER WHO
KNEW SO LITTLE ABOUT HIS

469
00:26:11,603 --> 00:26:12,000
PROPOSED VICTIM AND YET WAS
WILLING TO COMMIT THE CRIME OF
MURDER, MY PUBLISHERS MIGHT WELL
SAY TO ME THAT THAT'S

470
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,040
PROPOSED VICTIM AND YET WAS
WILLING TO COMMIT THE CRIME OF
MURDER, MY PUBLISHERS MIGHT WELL
SAY TO ME THAT THAT'S

471
00:26:15,106 --> 00:26:18,000
UNDERMOTIVATED.
>> YOU NEED TO DEVELOP THAT
CHARACTER BETTER.
>> NOT ENOUGH OF A REASON, NOT

472
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,712
UNDERMOTIVATED.
>> YOU NEED TO DEVELOP THAT
CHARACTER BETTER.
>> NOT ENOUGH OF A REASON, NOT

473
00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:24,000
CONVINCING.
BUT YET THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
>> RUSHDIE'S "KNIFE," HIS 22nd
BOOK, IS ONE HE INITIALLY DID

474
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,620
CONVINCING.
BUT YET THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
>> RUSHDIE'S "KNIFE," HIS 22nd
BOOK, IS ONE HE INITIALLY DID

475
00:26:28,687 --> 00:26:30,000
NOT WANT TO WRITE.
>> IT WAS THE LAST THING I
WANTED TO DO.
>> BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT THIS

476
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,857
NOT WANT TO WRITE.
>> IT WAS THE LAST THING I
WANTED TO DO.
>> BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT THIS

477
00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:36,000
TO, YET AGAIN, DEFINE YOU.
>> YEAH.
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME
AFTER "THE SATANIC VERSES" WAS

478
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,030
TO, YET AGAIN, DEFINE YOU.
>> YEAH.
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME
AFTER "THE SATANIC VERSES" WAS

479
00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:42,000
PUBLISHED THAT THE ONLY THING
ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT ME WAS THIS
DEATH THREAT.
BUT IT BECAME CLEAR TO ME THAT I

480
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,036
PUBLISHED THAT THE ONLY THING
ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT ME WAS THIS
DEATH THREAT.
BUT IT BECAME CLEAR TO ME THAT I

481
00:26:45,103 --> 00:26:48,000
COULDN'T WRITE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> YOU HAD TO WRITE THIS FIRST.
>> I HAD TO WRITE THIS FIRST.
I HAD TO -- I NEED TO FOCUS

482
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,978
COULDN'T WRITE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> YOU HAD TO WRITE THIS FIRST.
>> I HAD TO WRITE THIS FIRST.
I HAD TO -- I NEED TO FOCUS

483
00:26:53,044 --> 00:26:54,000
ON -- TO USE THE CLICHÉ -- THE
ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
THE MOMENT I THOUGHT THAT, KIND
OF SOMETHING CHANGED IN MY HEAD

484
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,116
ON -- TO USE THE CLICHÉ -- THE
ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
THE MOMENT I THOUGHT THAT, KIND
OF SOMETHING CHANGED IN MY HEAD

485
00:26:58,183 --> 00:27:00,000
AND IT BECAME A BOOK I REALLY
WANTED TO WRITE.
>> YOU SAID, THE LANGUAGE WAS MY
KNIFE.

486
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,821
AND IT BECAME A BOOK I REALLY
WANTED TO WRITE.
>> YOU SAID, THE LANGUAGE WAS MY
KNIFE.

487
00:27:02,887 --> 00:27:06,000
IF I HAD UNEXPECTEDLY BEEN
CAUGHT IN AN UNWANTED KNIFE
FIGHT, MAYBE THIS WAS THE KNIFE
I COULD USE TO FIGHT BACK, TO

488
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,929
IF I HAD UNEXPECTEDLY BEEN
CAUGHT IN AN UNWANTED KNIFE
FIGHT, MAYBE THIS WAS THE KNIFE
I COULD USE TO FIGHT BACK, TO

489
00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:12,000
TAKE CHARGE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO
ME, TO OWN IT, MAKE IT MINE.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, LANGUAGE IS A WAY OF

490
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,535
TAKE CHARGE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO
ME, TO OWN IT, MAKE IT MINE.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, LANGUAGE IS A WAY OF

491
00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:18,000
BREAKING OPEN THE WORLD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WEAPONS,
BUT I'D BEEN USING THIS
PARTICULAR TOOL FOR QUITE A LONG

492
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,338
BREAKING OPEN THE WORLD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WEAPONS,
BUT I'D BEEN USING THIS
PARTICULAR TOOL FOR QUITE A LONG

493
00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:24,000
TIME.
SO, I FELT THIS WAS MY WAY OF
DEALING WITH IT.
>> IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS

494
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,645
TIME.
SO, I FELT THIS WAS MY WAY OF
DEALING WITH IT.
>> IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS

495
00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:30,000
SINCE THE ATTACK, AND RUSHDIE IS
BACK HOME NOW IN NEW YORK,
SLOWLY GETTING USED TO
NAVIGATING THE WORLD WITH ONE

496
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,451
SINCE THE ATTACK, AND RUSHDIE IS
BACK HOME NOW IN NEW YORK,
SLOWLY GETTING USED TO
NAVIGATING THE WORLD WITH ONE

497
00:27:33,518 --> 00:27:36,000
EYE.
>> HOW MUCH TIME DID IT TAKE TO,
KIND OF, READJUST?
>> I'M STILL DOING IT.

498
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,088
EYE.
>> HOW MUCH TIME DID IT TAKE TO,
KIND OF, READJUST?
>> I'M STILL DOING IT.

499
00:27:37,155 --> 00:27:41,493
>> YOU STILL ARE?
>> YEAH.
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE A
DIFFERENT PERSON AFTER THE

500
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:42,000
ATTACK?
>> I DON'T FEEL I'M VERY
DIFFERENT.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT IT HAS LEFT A

501
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000
ATTACK?
>> I DON'T FEEL I'M VERY
DIFFERENT.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT IT HAS LEFT A

502
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,333
ATTACK?
>> I DON'T FEEL I'M VERY
DIFFERENT.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT IT HAS LEFT A

503
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,170
SHADOW.
I THINK THAT SHADOW IS JUST
THERE.
SOME DAYS IT'S DARK AND SOME

504
00:27:52,237 --> 00:27:54,000
DAYS IT'S NOT.
>> YOU FEEL LESS THAN YOU WERE
BEFORE?
>> NO.

505
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,274
DAYS IT'S NOT.
>> YOU FEEL LESS THAN YOU WERE
BEFORE?
>> NO.

506
00:27:56,341 --> 00:28:00,000
I JUST FEEL MORE THE PRESENCE OF
DEATH.
>> IN AN INTERVIEW ALMOST 25
YEARS AGO, YOU SAID OF THE

507
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,046
I JUST FEEL MORE THE PRESENCE OF
DEATH.
>> IN AN INTERVIEW ALMOST 25
YEARS AGO, YOU SAID OF THE

508
00:28:01,112 --> 00:28:05,850
FATWA, I WANT TO FIND AN END TO
THIS STORY.
IT IS THE ONE STORY I MUST FIND
AN END TO.

509
00:28:05,917 --> 00:28:06,000
HAVE YOU FOUND THAT ENDING?
AND AN ENDING TO THIS STORY AS
WELL?
>> WELL, I THOUGHT I HAD, AND

510
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,321
HAVE YOU FOUND THAT ENDING?
AND AN ENDING TO THIS STORY AS
WELL?
>> WELL, I THOUGHT I HAD, AND

511
00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:12,000
THEN TURNED OUT I HADN'T.
I'M HOPING THIS IS JUST A LAST
TWITCH OF THAT STORY.
I DON'T KNOW.

512
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:18,000
THEN TURNED OUT I HADN'T.
I'M HOPING THIS IS JUST A LAST
TWITCH OF THAT STORY.
I DON'T KNOW.

513
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,830
THEN TURNED OUT I HADN'T.
I'M HOPING THIS IS JUST A LAST
TWITCH OF THAT STORY.
I DON'T KNOW.

514
00:28:18,897 --> 00:28:21,900
I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

515
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,000
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE ON CENSORSHIP
IN AMERICA
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

516
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,000
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE ON CENSORSHIP
IN AMERICA
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

517
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,000
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE ON CENSORSHIP
IN AMERICA
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

518
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,125
>>> SALMAN RUSHDIE ON CENSORSHIP
IN AMERICA
>>> YOU CAN'T WAVE A WAND AND
MAKE INTOLERANCE, HARDSHIP, AND

519
00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:48,000
VIOLENCE DISAPPEAR.
BUT YOU CAN USE MAGIC TO TRY.
WE LEARNED THAT AFTER VISITING A
REMARKABLE SCHOOL IN CAPE TOWN,

520
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:54,000
VIOLENCE DISAPPEAR.
BUT YOU CAN USE MAGIC TO TRY.
WE LEARNED THAT AFTER VISITING A
REMARKABLE SCHOOL IN CAPE TOWN,

521
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,800
VIOLENCE DISAPPEAR.
BUT YOU CAN USE MAGIC TO TRY.
WE LEARNED THAT AFTER VISITING A
REMARKABLE SCHOOL IN CAPE TOWN,

522
00:28:55,867 --> 00:29:00,000
SOUTH AFRICA.
IT'S CALLED THE COLLEGE OF
MAGIC.
WHILE IT'S NOT AN ACCREDITED

523
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,071
SOUTH AFRICA.
IT'S CALLED THE COLLEGE OF
MAGIC.
WHILE IT'S NOT AN ACCREDITED

524
00:29:00,138 --> 00:29:06,000
INSTITUTION, IT IS A REAL LIFE
HOGWARTS, A SCHOOL FILLED WITH
STUDENTS RANGING IN AGE FROM 10
TO 18, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY

525
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,348
INSTITUTION, IT IS A REAL LIFE
HOGWARTS, A SCHOOL FILLED WITH
STUDENTS RANGING IN AGE FROM 10
TO 18, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY

526
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,000
REFLECTING SOUTH AFRICA.
THEY COME FROM PRIVILEGE AND
POVERTY.
SLIGHT OF HAND, JUGGLING,

527
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,755
REFLECTING SOUTH AFRICA.
THEY COME FROM PRIVILEGE AND
POVERTY.
SLIGHT OF HAND, JUGGLING,

528
00:29:17,822 --> 00:29:18,000
VENTRILOQUISM, CARD TRICKS, YOU
CAN LEARN IT ALL.
BUT WHAT THE SCHOOL REALLY
TEACHES IS THE GREAT SUPERPOWER

529
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:24,000
VENTRILOQUISM, CARD TRICKS, YOU
CAN LEARN IT ALL.
BUT WHAT THE SCHOOL REALLY
TEACHES IS THE GREAT SUPERPOWER

530
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,462
VENTRILOQUISM, CARD TRICKS, YOU
CAN LEARN IT ALL.
BUT WHAT THE SCHOOL REALLY
TEACHES IS THE GREAT SUPERPOWER

531
00:29:24,529 --> 00:29:30,000
OF MAGIC ITSELF, RETHINKING THE
LIMITS OF POSSIBILITY.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER
CAMPUS.

532
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,273
OF MAGIC ITSELF, RETHINKING THE
LIMITS OF POSSIBILITY.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER
CAMPUS.

533
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:36,000
GOTHIC ARCHITECTURE, A DIVERSE
STUDENT BODY, A CORE CURRICULUM.
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL
LANGUAGE ]

534
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,000
GOTHIC ARCHITECTURE, A DIVERSE
STUDENT BODY, A CORE CURRICULUM.
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL
LANGUAGE ]

535
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,081
GOTHIC ARCHITECTURE, A DIVERSE
STUDENT BODY, A CORE CURRICULUM.
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL
LANGUAGE ]

536
00:29:43,148 --> 00:29:48,000
>> ALL BALANCED WITH ELECTIVES.
TO BECOME MASTERS OF MAGIC,
THESE KIDS MUST BE BOTH
TACTICIANS AND TECHNICIANS.

537
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,090
>> ALL BALANCED WITH ELECTIVES.
TO BECOME MASTERS OF MAGIC,
THESE KIDS MUST BE BOTH
TACTICIANS AND TECHNICIANS.

538
00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:54,000
>> UP, DOWN, LIKE THIS.
>> AND PULL DOWN ONE AT A TIME.
>> LIKE ANY ART FORM, THIS ONE
REQUIRES PRACTICE, APPLICATION,

539
00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:00,000
>> UP, DOWN, LIKE THIS.
>> AND PULL DOWN ONE AT A TIME.
>> LIKE ANY ART FORM, THIS ONE
REQUIRES PRACTICE, APPLICATION,

540
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,434
>> UP, DOWN, LIKE THIS.
>> AND PULL DOWN ONE AT A TIME.
>> LIKE ANY ART FORM, THIS ONE
REQUIRES PRACTICE, APPLICATION,

541
00:30:03,501 --> 00:30:06,000
DISCIPLINE.
>> 6, SPADES.
>> THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLET.
WHILE STUDENTS ATTEND ACADEMIC

542
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,908
DISCIPLINE.
>> 6, SPADES.
>> THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLET.
WHILE STUDENTS ATTEND ACADEMIC

543
00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:12,000
SCHOOL DURING THE WEEK, THEY
COME HERE AFTER SCHOOL ON
WEEKENDS AND ON HOLIDAYS.
IT TAKES SIX YEARS TO EARN A

544
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,000
SCHOOL DURING THE WEEK, THEY
COME HERE AFTER SCHOOL ON
WEEKENDS AND ON HOLIDAYS.
IT TAKES SIX YEARS TO EARN A

545
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,184
SCHOOL DURING THE WEEK, THEY
COME HERE AFTER SCHOOL ON
WEEKENDS AND ON HOLIDAYS.
IT TAKES SIX YEARS TO EARN A

546
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:24,000
DIPLOMA.
>> ONE, TWO, THREE --
>> SINATHEMBA BAWUTI IS A
TEACHER, A GRADUATE, AND HIMSELF

547
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,259
DIPLOMA.
>> ONE, TWO, THREE --
>> SINATHEMBA BAWUTI IS A
TEACHER, A GRADUATE, AND HIMSELF

548
00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:30,000
NOW A PRACTICING MAGICIAN.
HE SHOWS STUDENTS THE TRICKS OF
THE TRADE.
>> WHAT IS IT ABOUT MAGIC?

549
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,599
NOW A PRACTICING MAGICIAN.
HE SHOWS STUDENTS THE TRICKS OF
THE TRADE.
>> WHAT IS IT ABOUT MAGIC?

550
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:36,000
WHAT APPEALS TO YOU SO MUCH
ABOUT THIS?
>> I DIDN'T THINK THAT I WOULD
BE DOING THIS AS A CAREER OR

551
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,771
WHAT APPEALS TO YOU SO MUCH
ABOUT THIS?
>> I DIDN'T THINK THAT I WOULD
BE DOING THIS AS A CAREER OR

552
00:30:39,837 --> 00:30:42,000
PERFORMING IT -- DOING IT TO
SUPPLEMENT MYSELF.
I WANT TO PUT A SMILE ON
PEOPLE'S FACES, MAKE THEM HAPPY,

553
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,412
PERFORMING IT -- DOING IT TO
SUPPLEMENT MYSELF.
I WANT TO PUT A SMILE ON
PEOPLE'S FACES, MAKE THEM HAPPY,

554
00:30:47,478 --> 00:30:48,000
ENTERTAIN THEM.
BUT IT BECAME MY THING.
I USE IT TO FEED MY FAMILY AND
MYSELF.

555
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,818
ENTERTAIN THEM.
BUT IT BECAME MY THING.
I USE IT TO FEED MY FAMILY AND
MYSELF.

556
00:30:53,885 --> 00:30:54,000
>> AND HE SAYS HE AND THE SCHOOL
AIM TO TEACH THE KIDS HONESTY,
HUMILITY, AND RESPECT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TRICKS AND

557
00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,000
>> AND HE SAYS HE AND THE SCHOOL
AIM TO TEACH THE KIDS HONESTY,
HUMILITY, AND RESPECT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TRICKS AND

558
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,459
>> AND HE SAYS HE AND THE SCHOOL
AIM TO TEACH THE KIDS HONESTY,
HUMILITY, AND RESPECT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TRICKS AND

559
00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:06,000
THE JUGGLING IS ONLY THE SMALL
PART OF IT.
>> IT'S NOT ONLY A COLLEGE OF
MAGIC, IT'S A COLLEGE OF LIFE.

560
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,632
THE JUGGLING IS ONLY THE SMALL
PART OF IT.
>> IT'S NOT ONLY A COLLEGE OF
MAGIC, IT'S A COLLEGE OF LIFE.

561
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:12,000
>> FOR THE REVERED DEAN AND
FOUNDER, DAVID GORE, IT'S BEEN
40 YEARS SINCE HE STOPPED
PRACTICING LAW AND PULLED THE

562
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,373
>> FOR THE REVERED DEAN AND
FOUNDER, DAVID GORE, IT'S BEEN
40 YEARS SINCE HE STOPPED
PRACTICING LAW AND PULLED THE

563
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,000
ULTIMATE BIT OF MISDIRECTION.
IN HIS HOMETOWN OF CAPE TOWN, HE
OPENED A COLLEGE, THE ONLY
SCHOOL OF ITS KIND DEVOTED TO

564
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,000
ULTIMATE BIT OF MISDIRECTION.
IN HIS HOMETOWN OF CAPE TOWN, HE
OPENED A COLLEGE, THE ONLY
SCHOOL OF ITS KIND DEVOTED TO

565
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,652
ULTIMATE BIT OF MISDIRECTION.
IN HIS HOMETOWN OF CAPE TOWN, HE
OPENED A COLLEGE, THE ONLY
SCHOOL OF ITS KIND DEVOTED TO

566
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:30,000
WONDER.
>> I'M SURELY NOT THE FIRST
PERSON THAT MADE THE JOKE, YOU
GAVE UP LAW TO PURSUE A CAREER

567
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,360
WONDER.
>> I'M SURELY NOT THE FIRST
PERSON THAT MADE THE JOKE, YOU
GAVE UP LAW TO PURSUE A CAREER

568
00:31:35,426 --> 00:31:36,000
OF DECEPTION.
>> WE LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS
ALLUSION AND WONDERMENT.
>> LOVE OF MAGIC FILLS THE

569
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,000
OF DECEPTION.
>> WE LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS
ALLUSION AND WONDERMENT.
>> LOVE OF MAGIC FILLS THE

570
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,067
OF DECEPTION.
>> WE LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS
ALLUSION AND WONDERMENT.
>> LOVE OF MAGIC FILLS THE

571
00:31:43,134 --> 00:31:48,000
HALLS, QUITE LITERALLY.
CONTRAPTIONS AND MEMORABILIA
TRACE THE MEMORY OF ILLUSION.
>> EVEN WITH ALL THIS

572
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,642
HALLS, QUITE LITERALLY.
CONTRAPTIONS AND MEMORABILIA
TRACE THE MEMORY OF ILLUSION.
>> EVEN WITH ALL THIS

573
00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:54,000
SOPHISTICATION AROUND US,
THERE'S NOTHING MORE EXCITING
ABOUT SEEING SOMETHING APPEAR OR
DISAPPEAR UNDER YOUR NOSE.

574
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,081
SOPHISTICATION AROUND US,
THERE'S NOTHING MORE EXCITING
ABOUT SEEING SOMETHING APPEAR OR
DISAPPEAR UNDER YOUR NOSE.

575
00:31:57,148 --> 00:32:00,000
>> WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT
TO?
>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY
INTERESTED IN AND CURIOUS ABOUT

576
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,120
>> WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT
TO?
>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY
INTERESTED IN AND CURIOUS ABOUT

577
00:32:02,186 --> 00:32:06,000
HOW THE LAWS OF NATURE CAN BE
SUSPENDED.
AND I THINK THE MAGICIAN OFFERS
THAT OPPORTUNITY, THAT GATEWAY

578
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,626
HOW THE LAWS OF NATURE CAN BE
SUSPENDED.
AND I THINK THE MAGICIAN OFFERS
THAT OPPORTUNITY, THAT GATEWAY

579
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:12,000
TO A WORLD WHICH WE ALL WOULD
LOVE TO BE PART OF, WHERE
GRAVITY IS ALWAYS PULLING US TO
PLANET EARTH, WHERE WE CAN FLOAT

580
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,302
TO A WORLD WHICH WE ALL WOULD
LOVE TO BE PART OF, WHERE
GRAVITY IS ALWAYS PULLING US TO
PLANET EARTH, WHERE WE CAN FLOAT

581
00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:18,000
UPWARDS.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FEELING.
>> NOTHING HERE IS QUITE AS IT
SEEMS.

582
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,372
UPWARDS.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FEELING.
>> NOTHING HERE IS QUITE AS IT
SEEMS.

583
00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:24,000
ON OUR VISIT HERE IN JULY 2022,
STUDENTS WERE PREPARING FOR THE
ANNUAL CHILDREN'S MAGIC
FESTIVAL.

584
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,178
ON OUR VISIT HERE IN JULY 2022,
STUDENTS WERE PREPARING FOR THE
ANNUAL CHILDREN'S MAGIC
FESTIVAL.

585
00:32:27,245 --> 00:32:30,000
>> WE HAVE A DRESS REHEARSAL.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
TURBAN OR NO TURBAN?
>> I LIKE THE TURBAN, A GOOD

586
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,886
>> WE HAVE A DRESS REHEARSAL.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
TURBAN OR NO TURBAN?
>> I LIKE THE TURBAN, A GOOD

587
00:32:34,952 --> 00:32:36,000
LOOK.
WOAH.
TURN IT UP?
VERY GOOD.

588
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,000
LOOK.
WOAH.
TURN IT UP?
VERY GOOD.

589
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,000
LOOK.
WOAH.
TURN IT UP?
VERY GOOD.

590
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,803
LOOK.
WOAH.
TURN IT UP?
VERY GOOD.

591
00:32:51,869 --> 00:32:54,000
THAT WAS A WINNER.
>> COME INTO OUR CLOSE UP
THEATER.
COME INSIDE.

592
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,709
THAT WAS A WINNER.
>> COME INTO OUR CLOSE UP
THEATER.
COME INSIDE.

593
00:32:57,775 --> 00:33:00,000
>> MICHAEL BARTA HAS BEEN
TEACHING HERE FOR DECADES.
>> I TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO USE
THEIR HANDS.

594
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,383
>> MICHAEL BARTA HAS BEEN
TEACHING HERE FOR DECADES.
>> I TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO USE
THEIR HANDS.

595
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:06,000
OKAY.
I WAS JUGGLING -- SOMEBODY'S
TAKEN MY BALL.
>> THE SCHOOL WAS ALWAYS

596
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,622
OKAY.
I WAS JUGGLING -- SOMEBODY'S
TAKEN MY BALL.
>> THE SCHOOL WAS ALWAYS

597
00:33:11,689 --> 00:33:12,000
CONCEIVED TO GO BEYOND
HOCUS-POCUS.
HIS MAGIC ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE OR
WHAT YOU MISS.

598
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,794
CONCEIVED TO GO BEYOND
HOCUS-POCUS.
HIS MAGIC ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE OR
WHAT YOU MISS.

599
00:33:16,861 --> 00:33:18,000
BARTA THINKS IT'S BOTH.
>> SO, HOW MANY BALLS DO I HAVE?
>> MAGIC DEVELOPS SKEPTICISM AND
CURIOSITY.

600
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,000
BARTA THINKS IT'S BOTH.
>> SO, HOW MANY BALLS DO I HAVE?
>> MAGIC DEVELOPS SKEPTICISM AND
CURIOSITY.

601
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,168
BARTA THINKS IT'S BOTH.
>> SO, HOW MANY BALLS DO I HAVE?
>> MAGIC DEVELOPS SKEPTICISM AND
CURIOSITY.

602
00:33:24,235 --> 00:33:30,000
THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NEEDED IN
EDUCATION.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
YOU COME HERE.

603
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,074
THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NEEDED IN
EDUCATION.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
YOU COME HERE.

604
00:33:30,141 --> 00:33:34,846
THERE'S A HEALTHY SKEPTICISM.
HOW DID HE DO?
IT'S MIXED WITH CURIOSITY AND
WONDER.

605
00:33:34,912 --> 00:33:36,000
HOW DID HE DO THAT?
>> I KNOW.
HOW DID HE DO THAT?
WOW?

606
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,517
HOW DID HE DO THAT?
>> I KNOW.
HOW DID HE DO THAT?
WOW?

607
00:33:39,584 --> 00:33:42,000
>> FROM THE SCHOOL'S BEGINNING,
IT REFLECTED A CROSS SECTION OF
SOUTH AFRICA.
NOW, AS THEN, STUDENTS COME FROM

608
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,924
>> FROM THE SCHOOL'S BEGINNING,
IT REFLECTED A CROSS SECTION OF
SOUTH AFRICA.
NOW, AS THEN, STUDENTS COME FROM

609
00:33:46,991 --> 00:33:48,000
THE MOST WEALTHY SUBURBS AND
FROM CAPE TOWN'S MOST
IMPOVERISHED TOWNSHIPS.
DUMA MGQOKI'S MOTHER WAS

610
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:54,000
THE MOST WEALTHY SUBURBS AND
FROM CAPE TOWN'S MOST
IMPOVERISHED TOWNSHIPS.
DUMA MGQOKI'S MOTHER WAS

611
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,935
THE MOST WEALTHY SUBURBS AND
FROM CAPE TOWN'S MOST
IMPOVERISHED TOWNSHIPS.
DUMA MGQOKI'S MOTHER WAS

612
00:33:58,002 --> 00:34:00,000
MURDERED FOUR YEARS AGO.
THE SPRAWLING SHANTY TOWN, LIKE
SO MANY OTHERS IN THE COUNTRY,
IS POCKED BY VIOLENCE AND DRUGS.

613
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:06,000
MURDERED FOUR YEARS AGO.
THE SPRAWLING SHANTY TOWN, LIKE
SO MANY OTHERS IN THE COUNTRY,
IS POCKED BY VIOLENCE AND DRUGS.

614
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,479
MURDERED FOUR YEARS AGO.
THE SPRAWLING SHANTY TOWN, LIKE
SO MANY OTHERS IN THE COUNTRY,
IS POCKED BY VIOLENCE AND DRUGS.

615
00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:12,000
>> SOME ARE CARRYING GUNS AND
SOME ARE CARRYING KNIVES.
THEY'RE BUSY ROBBING OLD PEOPLE,
BEING ON DRUGS AND STUFF.

616
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,986
>> SOME ARE CARRYING GUNS AND
SOME ARE CARRYING KNIVES.
THEY'RE BUSY ROBBING OLD PEOPLE,
BEING ON DRUGS AND STUFF.

617
00:34:15,052 --> 00:34:18,000
SO, LIKE, I HAVE TO BE INDULGED
BECAUSE I HEAR GUNSHOTS.
>> YOU'RE DESCRIBING GUNSHOTS
AND KNIVES AND DRUGS AND GANGS,

618
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,000
SO, LIKE, I HAVE TO BE INDULGED
BECAUSE I HEAR GUNSHOTS.
>> YOU'RE DESCRIBING GUNSHOTS
AND KNIVES AND DRUGS AND GANGS,

619
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,197
SO, LIKE, I HAVE TO BE INDULGED
BECAUSE I HEAR GUNSHOTS.
>> YOU'RE DESCRIBING GUNSHOTS
AND KNIVES AND DRUGS AND GANGS,

620
00:34:26,264 --> 00:34:30,000
AND YOU COME HERE.
IT MUST BE A BIT OF A RELIEF.
>> IT'S HELPED ME A LOT.
IT SAVED ME FROM DOING THOSE

621
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,605
AND YOU COME HERE.
IT MUST BE A BIT OF A RELIEF.
>> IT'S HELPED ME A LOT.
IT SAVED ME FROM DOING THOSE

622
00:34:34,672 --> 00:34:36,000
STUFF.
BECAUSE I BECAME AN ARTIST AND I
BECAME TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.
>> YOU SAY ARTIST?

623
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:42,000
STUFF.
BECAUSE I BECAME AN ARTIST AND I
BECAME TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.
>> YOU SAY ARTIST?

624
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,848
STUFF.
BECAUSE I BECAME AN ARTIST AND I
BECAME TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.
>> YOU SAY ARTIST?

625
00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:48,000
>> YEAH.
YOU'RE A MAGICIAN, YOU'RE AN
ARTIST BECAUSE IT'S ART.
YEAH.

626
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,753
>> YEAH.
YOU'RE A MAGICIAN, YOU'RE AN
ARTIST BECAUSE IT'S ART.
YEAH.

627
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:54,000
>> IN THE TOWNSHIPS, YOU DON'T
COME ACROSS MANY BOW TIES.
SO, WHEN DUMA PASSES BY, HE
DRAWS ATTENTION.

628
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,696
>> IN THE TOWNSHIPS, YOU DON'T
COME ACROSS MANY BOW TIES.
SO, WHEN DUMA PASSES BY, HE
DRAWS ATTENTION.

629
00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:00,000
A QUICK BIT OF WHIZ.
AND GEE WHIZ.
AND HE'S OFF.
THE SCHOOL ARRANGES

630
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000
A QUICK BIT OF WHIZ.
AND GEE WHIZ.
AND HE'S OFF.
THE SCHOOL ARRANGES

631
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:12,000
A QUICK BIT OF WHIZ.
AND GEE WHIZ.
AND HE'S OFF.
THE SCHOOL ARRANGES

632
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000
A QUICK BIT OF WHIZ.
AND GEE WHIZ.
AND HE'S OFF.
THE SCHOOL ARRANGES

633
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,216
A QUICK BIT OF WHIZ.
AND GEE WHIZ.
AND HE'S OFF.
THE SCHOOL ARRANGES

634
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:24,000
TRANSPORTATION WHEN NEEDED,
SHUTTLING THE KIDS ON THE LONG
JOURNEY INTO THE CITY.
THERE IS NO UNIFORM AS SUCH, BUT

635
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,491
TRANSPORTATION WHEN NEEDED,
SHUTTLING THE KIDS ON THE LONG
JOURNEY INTO THE CITY.
THERE IS NO UNIFORM AS SUCH, BUT

636
00:35:26,557 --> 00:35:30,000
STUDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DRESS
AS SMARTLY AS THEY CAN.
FOR MANY, GOING TO THE SCHOOL
MARKS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO GET

637
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,665
STUDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DRESS
AS SMARTLY AS THEY CAN.
FOR MANY, GOING TO THE SCHOOL
MARKS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO GET

638
00:35:34,732 --> 00:35:36,000
OUT OF THE TOWNSHIP.
TUITION IS $350 A YEAR,
UNAFFORDABLE FOR MOST OF THE 130
STUDENTS.

639
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,000
OUT OF THE TOWNSHIP.
TUITION IS $350 A YEAR,
UNAFFORDABLE FOR MOST OF THE 130
STUDENTS.

640
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,709
OUT OF THE TOWNSHIP.
TUITION IS $350 A YEAR,
UNAFFORDABLE FOR MOST OF THE 130
STUDENTS.

641
00:35:44,775 --> 00:35:48,000
THE COLLEGE, A NON-PROFIT,
RAISES FUNDS FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.
BREAKFAST LUNCH INCLUDED.
>> YOU HAVE SOME KIDS COMING

642
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,817
THE COLLEGE, A NON-PROFIT,
RAISES FUNDS FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.
BREAKFAST LUNCH INCLUDED.
>> YOU HAVE SOME KIDS COMING

643
00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:54,000
HERE WHO ARE MALNOURISHED YOU
HAVE TO FEED.
YOU HAVE OTHER KIDS GETTING
PICKED UP BY PARENTS IN FANCY

644
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,789
HERE WHO ARE MALNOURISHED YOU
HAVE TO FEED.
YOU HAVE OTHER KIDS GETTING
PICKED UP BY PARENTS IN FANCY

645
00:35:58,856 --> 00:36:00,000
SPORTS CARS.
IS THAT HARD FOR YOU TO WORK?
>> YES, I THINK IT'S AN
IMPORTANT PART OF OUR NATION

646
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,729
SPORTS CARS.
IS THAT HARD FOR YOU TO WORK?
>> YES, I THINK IT'S AN
IMPORTANT PART OF OUR NATION

647
00:36:04,795 --> 00:36:06,000
BUILDING AND FOR UNDERSTANDING
THAT YOUNG PEOPLE GET TO
UNDERSTAND HOW EACH OTHER IS
LIVING AND HOW WE THINK AND HOW

648
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,334
BUILDING AND FOR UNDERSTANDING
THAT YOUNG PEOPLE GET TO
UNDERSTAND HOW EACH OTHER IS
LIVING AND HOW WE THINK AND HOW

649
00:36:10,401 --> 00:36:12,000
WE APPROACH LIFE.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DRIVE
THIS NATION FORWARD.

650
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,741
WE APPROACH LIFE.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DRIVE
THIS NATION FORWARD.

651
00:36:16,807 --> 00:36:18,000
>> I CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE
WATCHING THIS SAYING, THERE'S
THIS COLLEGE OF MAGIC IS ALL
WELL AND GOOD, AND YOU'RE

652
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,714
>> I CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE
WATCHING THIS SAYING, THERE'S
THIS COLLEGE OF MAGIC IS ALL
WELL AND GOOD, AND YOU'RE

653
00:36:23,781 --> 00:36:24,000
TEACHING KIDS TO MAKE COINS
DISAPPEAR, BUT WHY AREN'T YOU
TEACHING THEM CODING OR
SOMETHING MORE PRACTICAL?

654
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,000
TEACHING KIDS TO MAKE COINS
DISAPPEAR, BUT WHY AREN'T YOU
TEACHING THEM CODING OR
SOMETHING MORE PRACTICAL?

655
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,021
TEACHING KIDS TO MAKE COINS
DISAPPEAR, BUT WHY AREN'T YOU
TEACHING THEM CODING OR
SOMETHING MORE PRACTICAL?

656
00:36:30,087 --> 00:36:36,000
>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
KILL IN THE 21st CENTURY IS
GOING TO BE IMAGINATIVE THINKING
BECAUSE NO MATTER WHICH CAREER

657
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,229
>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
KILL IN THE 21st CENTURY IS
GOING TO BE IMAGINATIVE THINKING
BECAUSE NO MATTER WHICH CAREER

658
00:36:38,296 --> 00:36:42,000
YOU SELECT TO GO INTO, IT'S
GOING TO NO LONGER BE YOUR
KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THE KNOWLEDGE
IS AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET.

659
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,303
YOU SELECT TO GO INTO, IT'S
GOING TO NO LONGER BE YOUR
KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THE KNOWLEDGE
IS AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET.

660
00:36:45,369 --> 00:36:48,000
IT'S HOW YOU USE THE KNOWLEDGE.
THERE'S NO BETTER TOPIC OR
SUBJECT THAN MAGIC TO EXPLORE
THE WHOLE IDEA OF IMAGINATION.

661
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,777
IT'S HOW YOU USE THE KNOWLEDGE.
THERE'S NO BETTER TOPIC OR
SUBJECT THAN MAGIC TO EXPLORE
THE WHOLE IDEA OF IMAGINATION.

662
00:36:52,843 --> 00:36:54,000
>> THEY TRADE THEIR CAPE FOR A
THREE PIECE SUIT OR SPORTS
JERSEY OR NURSE'S ATTIRE, YOU'RE
OKAY WITH THAT?

663
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,016
>> THEY TRADE THEIR CAPE FOR A
THREE PIECE SUIT OR SPORTS
JERSEY OR NURSE'S ATTIRE, YOU'RE
OKAY WITH THAT?

664
00:36:59,083 --> 00:37:00,000
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> 15-YEAR-OLD NAKHANE NTAME IS
A RISING STAR AT THE COLLEGE.
BUT SHE HAD TO BEG HER MOM TO

665
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,000
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> 15-YEAR-OLD NAKHANE NTAME IS
A RISING STAR AT THE COLLEGE.
BUT SHE HAD TO BEG HER MOM TO

666
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,529
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> 15-YEAR-OLD NAKHANE NTAME IS
A RISING STAR AT THE COLLEGE.
BUT SHE HAD TO BEG HER MOM TO

667
00:37:11,596 --> 00:37:12,000
LET HER ENROLL.
>> MOM, I WANT TO JOIN THIS.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I WANT TO BECOME A MAGICIAN.

668
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,234
LET HER ENROLL.
>> MOM, I WANT TO JOIN THIS.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I WANT TO BECOME A MAGICIAN.

669
00:37:17,301 --> 00:37:18,000
SHE THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY, BUT
HERE I AM TODAY.
>> HERE YOU ARE.
YOUR MOM SAID YOU WERE CRAZY FOR

670
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:24,000
SHE THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY, BUT
HERE I AM TODAY.
>> HERE YOU ARE.
YOUR MOM SAID YOU WERE CRAZY FOR

671
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,241
SHE THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY, BUT
HERE I AM TODAY.
>> HERE YOU ARE.
YOUR MOM SAID YOU WERE CRAZY FOR

672
00:37:24,308 --> 00:37:28,746
WANTING TO BE A MAGICIAN.
>> BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE
IN MAGIC.
>> NOT ONLY THAT, FOR MANY IN

673
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:30,000
THE TOWNSHIPS, MAGIC IS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE OCCULT OR
WITCHCRAFT.
>> THE FIRST TIME I PERFORMED, I

674
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,000
THE TOWNSHIPS, MAGIC IS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE OCCULT OR
WITCHCRAFT.
>> THE FIRST TIME I PERFORMED, I

675
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,020
THE TOWNSHIPS, MAGIC IS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE OCCULT OR
WITCHCRAFT.
>> THE FIRST TIME I PERFORMED, I

676
00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:41,258
PERFORMED FOR MY GRANDMOTHER.
SO, SHE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND
MAGIC AT ALL.
AND EVERY TIME SHE WOULD SEE

677
00:37:41,325 --> 00:37:42,000
MAGIC, SHE WOULD BE LIKE --
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL
LANGUAGE ]
WHICH MEANS DARKNESS AND EVIL

678
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,131
MAGIC, SHE WOULD BE LIKE --
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL
LANGUAGE ]
WHICH MEANS DARKNESS AND EVIL

679
00:37:47,198 --> 00:37:48,000
POWERS.
>> PEOPLE SAY, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND, EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM?

680
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,004
POWERS.
>> PEOPLE SAY, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND, EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM?

681
00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:54,000
>> MAGIC IS NOT BLACK MAGIC.
WE DO NOT PRACTICE ANY KIND OF
SPELLS, DARK SPELLS.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY SECRETS

682
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,076
>> MAGIC IS NOT BLACK MAGIC.
WE DO NOT PRACTICE ANY KIND OF
SPELLS, DARK SPELLS.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY SECRETS

683
00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:00,000
BEHIND THE MAGIC, AND IT TAKES
TIME TO PRACTICE AND MASTER
EACH.
>> YOU MUST FOLLOW VERY, VERY

684
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,650
BEHIND THE MAGIC, AND IT TAKES
TIME TO PRACTICE AND MASTER
EACH.
>> YOU MUST FOLLOW VERY, VERY

685
00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:06,000
CARINGFULLY BECAUSE A LOT OF
THINGS HAPPEN.
>> MYLO DREYERSMITH SAYS HIS MOM
HAD TO CONVINCE HIM TO ENROLL.

686
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,000
CARINGFULLY BECAUSE A LOT OF
THINGS HAPPEN.
>> MYLO DREYERSMITH SAYS HIS MOM
HAD TO CONVINCE HIM TO ENROLL.

687
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,490
CARINGFULLY BECAUSE A LOT OF
THINGS HAPPEN.
>> MYLO DREYERSMITH SAYS HIS MOM
HAD TO CONVINCE HIM TO ENROLL.

688
00:38:12,556 --> 00:38:18,000
>> BEFORE I CAME TO THE COLLEGE
OF MAGIC, I WAS VERY SHY.
I COULDN'T DANCE EVEN IN FRONT
OF MY BROTHER AND SISTER.

689
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,964
>> BEFORE I CAME TO THE COLLEGE
OF MAGIC, I WAS VERY SHY.
I COULDN'T DANCE EVEN IN FRONT
OF MY BROTHER AND SISTER.

690
00:38:20,031 --> 00:38:24,000
I WOULD HIDE BEHIND MY MOM.
AND MY MOM SAID I NEED TO LEARN
SI SKILLS.
AND WHEN WE LEARNED ABOUT THE

691
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,473
I WOULD HIDE BEHIND MY MOM.
AND MY MOM SAID I NEED TO LEARN
SI SKILLS.
AND WHEN WE LEARNED ABOUT THE

692
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:30,000
COLLEGE OF MAGIC, SHE WAS LIKE,
THAT'S THE PERFECT SPOT.
FIRST, YOU'LL GET INTO A GOOD
COLLEGE, AND SECONDLY, IT'S SI

693
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000
COLLEGE OF MAGIC, SHE WAS LIKE,
THAT'S THE PERFECT SPOT.
FIRST, YOU'LL GET INTO A GOOD
COLLEGE, AND SECONDLY, IT'S SI

694
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,882
COLLEGE OF MAGIC, SHE WAS LIKE,
THAT'S THE PERFECT SPOT.
FIRST, YOU'LL GET INTO A GOOD
COLLEGE, AND SECONDLY, IT'S SI

695
00:38:37,948 --> 00:38:42,000
SKILLS.
>> YOU CAME HERE FOR MORE SOCIAL
INTELLIGENCE, TO COME OUT OF
YOUR SHELL A BIT.

696
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,186
SKILLS.
>> YOU CAME HERE FOR MORE SOCIAL
INTELLIGENCE, TO COME OUT OF
YOUR SHELL A BIT.

697
00:38:42,253 --> 00:38:48,000
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WORKING.
>> YEAH, IT IS WORKING.
>> BEING A MAGICIAN, DO YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU'RE A PART OF A SECRET

698
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,826
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WORKING.
>> YEAH, IT IS WORKING.
>> BEING A MAGICIAN, DO YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU'RE A PART OF A SECRET

699
00:38:48,893 --> 00:38:54,000
SOCIETY, A SECRET CLUB?
>> YES, LIKE A SECRET AGENT OF A
BIG FORCE.
>> LET'S DO A ROLE PLAY.

700
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,532
SOCIETY, A SECRET CLUB?
>> YES, LIKE A SECRET AGENT OF A
BIG FORCE.
>> LET'S DO A ROLE PLAY.

701
00:38:54,598 --> 00:39:00,000
MYLO, MYLO, TELL ME HOW YOU DO
THAT TRICK?
>> NO.
>> WHY?

702
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,040
MYLO, MYLO, TELL ME HOW YOU DO
THAT TRICK?
>> NO.
>> WHY?

703
00:39:03,107 --> 00:39:06,000
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE A DUNDER HEAD
AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND?
>> I'M A DUNDER HEAD?

704
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,311
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE A DUNDER HEAD
AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND?
>> I'M A DUNDER HEAD?

705
00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:12,000
>> YES, YOU ARE.
>> NEVER GIVE UP YOUR SECRETS.
>> ACTUALLY ALL MY FAMILY HAS
LEARNED ALL OF IT BY NOW BECAUSE

706
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,150
>> YES, YOU ARE.
>> NEVER GIVE UP YOUR SECRETS.
>> ACTUALLY ALL MY FAMILY HAS
LEARNED ALL OF IT BY NOW BECAUSE

707
00:39:13,217 --> 00:39:17,988
WHEN I PRACTICE FOR A
PERFORMANCE, THEY PICK UP MY
MISTAKES.
>> YOUR FAMILY CAN KEEP A

708
00:39:18,055 --> 00:39:24,000
SECRET?
>> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MY SISTER.
>> TEN MILES AND AN INCALCULABLE
DISTANCE FROM WHERE MYLO LIVES,

709
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,166
SECRET?
>> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MY SISTER.
>> TEN MILES AND AN INCALCULABLE
DISTANCE FROM WHERE MYLO LIVES,

710
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:30,000
MEET LULO STOFILE, LULO THE
GREAT, AS HE CALLS HIMSELF.
HE LIVES IN A ONE BEDROOM HOME
WITH HIS FATHER, SHAWN, MOTHER,

711
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,000
MEET LULO STOFILE, LULO THE
GREAT, AS HE CALLS HIMSELF.
HE LIVES IN A ONE BEDROOM HOME
WITH HIS FATHER, SHAWN, MOTHER,

712
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,976
MEET LULO STOFILE, LULO THE
GREAT, AS HE CALLS HIMSELF.
HE LIVES IN A ONE BEDROOM HOME
WITH HIS FATHER, SHAWN, MOTHER,

713
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,000
BELINDA, AND LITTLE SISTER.
HE, TOO, TRANSFORMED AFTER GOING
TO THE COLLEGE OF MAGIC.
>> HE WAS HYPERACTIVE.

714
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:48,000
BELINDA, AND LITTLE SISTER.
HE, TOO, TRANSFORMED AFTER GOING
TO THE COLLEGE OF MAGIC.
>> HE WAS HYPERACTIVE.

715
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,819
BELINDA, AND LITTLE SISTER.
HE, TOO, TRANSFORMED AFTER GOING
TO THE COLLEGE OF MAGIC.
>> HE WAS HYPERACTIVE.

716
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:54,000
>> WAS HE ALWAYS THAT WAY?
>> NO, HE WAS TOO SHY, LIKE HIS
SISTER.
>> THIS GUY WAS SHY?

717
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,126
>> WAS HE ALWAYS THAT WAY?
>> NO, HE WAS TOO SHY, LIKE HIS
SISTER.
>> THIS GUY WAS SHY?

718
00:39:55,192 --> 00:39:59,630
>> VERY, VERY SHY.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
>> VERY, VERY SHY.
>> BUT FOR BELINDA AND SHAWN,

719
00:39:59,697 --> 00:40:00,000
MAGIC IS MORE THAN A TOOL TO GET
LULO OUT OF HIS SHELL.
IT MAY ALSO BE HIS PATH OUT OF
POVERTY.

720
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,000
MAGIC IS MORE THAN A TOOL TO GET
LULO OUT OF HIS SHELL.
IT MAY ALSO BE HIS PATH OUT OF
POVERTY.

721
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,670
MAGIC IS MORE THAN A TOOL TO GET
LULO OUT OF HIS SHELL.
IT MAY ALSO BE HIS PATH OUT OF
POVERTY.

722
00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:12,000
>> I SAY TO LULO EACH AND EVERY
DAY, CONTINUE WITH YOUR MAGIC.
>> CONTINUE WITH YOUR MAGIC.
>> YES.

723
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,643
>> I SAY TO LULO EACH AND EVERY
DAY, CONTINUE WITH YOUR MAGIC.
>> CONTINUE WITH YOUR MAGIC.
>> YES.

724
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:18,000
FLY WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO TO.
IT'S YOUR LIFE.
IT'S NOT MY LIFE.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT

725
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,315
FLY WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO TO.
IT'S YOUR LIFE.
IT'S NOT MY LIFE.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT

726
00:40:18,382 --> 00:40:24,000
FROM YOU IS TO -- LIFE.
>> ONE DAY, I'M GOING TO BE A
FAMOUS MAGICIAN.
>> ONE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE A

727
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,892
FROM YOU IS TO -- LIFE.
>> ONE DAY, I'M GOING TO BE A
FAMOUS MAGICIAN.
>> ONE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE A

728
00:40:27,958 --> 00:40:30,000
FAMOUS MAGICIAN?
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
>> YES.
>> BUT FIRST THING'S FIRST.

729
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,730
FAMOUS MAGICIAN?
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
>> YES.
>> BUT FIRST THING'S FIRST.

730
00:40:32,797 --> 00:40:36,000
TOMORROW IS THE CHILDREN'S MAGIC
FESTIVAL, AND LULO CAN BARELY
CONTAIN HIMSELF.
>> WHAT'S THE GOAL TOMORROW?

731
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,470
TOMORROW IS THE CHILDREN'S MAGIC
FESTIVAL, AND LULO CAN BARELY
CONTAIN HIMSELF.
>> WHAT'S THE GOAL TOMORROW?

732
00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:42,000
>> THE GOAL TOMORROW IS TO SHOW
PEOPLE WHO I AM.
I'M LULO THE GREAT, THE JUGGLER,
SPINNING RIMS, ALL THAT STUFF.

733
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,578
>> THE GOAL TOMORROW IS TO SHOW
PEOPLE WHO I AM.
I'M LULO THE GREAT, THE JUGGLER,
SPINNING RIMS, ALL THAT STUFF.

734
00:40:47,645 --> 00:40:48,000
>> CARDS, JUGGLE, DANCING.
WHAT DOESN'T LULO THE GREAT DO?
>> LULO THE GREAT DOESN'T DO
ONLY ONE THING.

735
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:54,000
>> CARDS, JUGGLE, DANCING.
WHAT DOESN'T LULO THE GREAT DO?
>> LULO THE GREAT DOESN'T DO
ONLY ONE THING.

736
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,789
>> CARDS, JUGGLE, DANCING.
WHAT DOESN'T LULO THE GREAT DO?
>> LULO THE GREAT DOESN'T DO
ONLY ONE THING.

737
00:40:58,856 --> 00:41:00,000
>> MANY OF MANY TALENTS.
>> MANY TALENTS.
>> THERE WAS AN ABUNDANCE OF
TALENT ON DISPLAY, AND THERE WAS

738
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:06,000
>> MANY OF MANY TALENTS.
>> MANY TALENTS.
>> THERE WAS AN ABUNDANCE OF
TALENT ON DISPLAY, AND THERE WAS

739
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,597
>> MANY OF MANY TALENTS.
>> MANY TALENTS.
>> THERE WAS AN ABUNDANCE OF
TALENT ON DISPLAY, AND THERE WAS

740
00:41:06,664 --> 00:41:12,000
AN ABUNDANCE OF WIDE-EYED
WONDER.
>> ONE, TWO, THREE, HOCUS-POCUS!
>> KIDS AND PARENTS AND THIS

741
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,274
AN ABUNDANCE OF WIDE-EYED
WONDER.
>> ONE, TWO, THREE, HOCUS-POCUS!
>> KIDS AND PARENTS AND THIS

742
00:41:17,341 --> 00:41:18,000
CORRESPONDENT CONVERGED ON THE
COLLEGE.
DUMA MGQOKI IS AMONG THE SHOW
STOPPERS.

743
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000
CORRESPONDENT CONVERGED ON THE
COLLEGE.
DUMA MGQOKI IS AMONG THE SHOW
STOPPERS.

744
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,618
CORRESPONDENT CONVERGED ON THE
COLLEGE.
DUMA MGQOKI IS AMONG THE SHOW
STOPPERS.

745
00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:30,000
>> I BRING HAPPINESS TO THE
KIDS.
THAT'S WHY I FEEL HAPPY BECAUSE
I'M MAKING THEM HAPPY.

746
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,724
>> I BRING HAPPINESS TO THE
KIDS.
THAT'S WHY I FEEL HAPPY BECAUSE
I'M MAKING THEM HAPPY.

747
00:41:33,791 --> 00:41:36,000
>> YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKING THEM
HAPPY.
YOU'RE MAKING THEM WONDER.
YOU'RE EXPANDING THEIR IDEA OF

748
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,896
>> YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKING THEM
HAPPY.
YOU'RE MAKING THEM WONDER.
YOU'RE EXPANDING THEIR IDEA OF

749
00:41:38,963 --> 00:41:42,000
POSSIBILITY AND IMAGINATION.
>> YEAH.
IT'S A GREAT FEELING.
IT'S A GREAT FEELING.

750
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,169
POSSIBILITY AND IMAGINATION.
>> YEAH.
IT'S A GREAT FEELING.
IT'S A GREAT FEELING.

751
00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:48,000
>> BUT YOU DON'T GIVE IT UP WHEN
THEY SAY, HOW DID YOU DO IT?
>> IT'S MAGIC.
IT'S MAGIC.

752
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:54,000
>> BUT YOU DON'T GIVE IT UP WHEN
THEY SAY, HOW DID YOU DO IT?
>> IT'S MAGIC.
IT'S MAGIC.

753
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,182
>> BUT YOU DON'T GIVE IT UP WHEN
THEY SAY, HOW DID YOU DO IT?
>> IT'S MAGIC.
IT'S MAGIC.

754
00:41:58,249 --> 00:42:00,000
>>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.

755
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,000
>>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.

756
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,000
>>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.

757
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,601
>>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.