1 00:00:16,916 --> 00:00:18,000 UP WITH ELITE RUSSIAN HACKERS. IT MAY BE JUST THE BEGINNING. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED? 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,689 UP WITH ELITE RUSSIAN HACKERS. IT MAY BE JUST THE BEGINNING. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED? 3 00:00:22,756 --> 00:00:24,000 >> THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT. >>> YOU'RE A PART OF A 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,562 >> THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT. >>> YOU'RE A PART OF A 5 00:00:29,763 --> 00:00:30,000 MOVEMENT. >> THIS MAN IS A HEAVY WEIGHT IN THE WORLD OF PRIVATE EQUITY, AN INDUSTRY FAMOUS FOR ITS 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,800 MOVEMENT. >> THIS MAN IS A HEAVY WEIGHT IN THE WORLD OF PRIVATE EQUITY, AN INDUSTRY FAMOUS FOR ITS 7 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:36,000 RUTHLESSNESS. YET HE'S EMERGED AS THE LEADING EVANGELIST FOR THE CONCEPT OF EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP. 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,273 RUTHLESSNESS. YET HE'S EMERGED AS THE LEADING EVANGELIST FOR THE CONCEPT OF EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP. 9 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:42,000 HIS IDEA, TAKE THE SAME INCENTIVES THAT HAVE LONG- HELPED THE C SUITE GET RICH AND APPLY THEM TO FOLKS WORKING 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,000 HIS IDEA, TAKE THE SAME INCENTIVES THAT HAVE LONG- HELPED THE C SUITE GET RICH AND APPLY THEM TO FOLKS WORKING 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,114 HIS IDEA, TAKE THE SAME INCENTIVES THAT HAVE LONG- HELPED THE C SUITE GET RICH AND APPLY THEM TO FOLKS WORKING 12 00:00:48,181 --> 00:00:52,385 FACTORIES, FLAT BEDS, AND FARMS. >> EVEN OUR NEWEST COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO GET A MEANINGFUL 13 00:00:52,452 --> 00:00:54,000 PAYOUT OF $20,000. >>> I AM ONLY YOUR FAVORITE 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,325 PAYOUT OF $20,000. >>> I AM ONLY YOUR FAVORITE 15 00:00:59,592 --> 00:01:00,000 WOMAN OF ALL TIME, BARBIE! >> WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING AN 11 1/2 INCH PLASTIC DOLL INTO THE HIGHEST GROSSING 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,000 WOMAN OF ALL TIME, BARBIE! >> WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING AN 11 1/2 INCH PLASTIC DOLL INTO THE HIGHEST GROSSING 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,536 WOMAN OF ALL TIME, BARBIE! >> WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING AN 11 1/2 INCH PLASTIC DOLL INTO THE HIGHEST GROSSING 18 00:01:09,602 --> 00:01:12,000 MOVIE OF THE YEAR? >> CAN YOU CONTROL YOUR HAIR? >> THE WOMAN MARGOT ROBBIE, BARBIE HERSELF, CHOSE TO WRITE 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,942 MOVIE OF THE YEAR? >> CAN YOU CONTROL YOUR HAIR? >> THE WOMAN MARGOT ROBBIE, BARBIE HERSELF, CHOSE TO WRITE 20 00:01:16,009 --> 00:01:18,000 AND DIRECT IT, GRETA GERWIG. >> YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THOSE BIG SWINGS, I MEAN, LITERALLY THE WORST THING THAT 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,000 AND DIRECT IT, GRETA GERWIG. >> YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THOSE BIG SWINGS, I MEAN, LITERALLY THE WORST THING THAT 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,187 AND DIRECT IT, GRETA GERWIG. >> YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THOSE BIG SWINGS, I MEAN, LITERALLY THE WORST THING THAT 23 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,000 CAN HAPPEN IS IT'S TERRIBLE, NOBODY LIKES IT, AND IT BANKRUPTS THE STUDIO. >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,792 CAN HAPPEN IS IT'S TERRIBLE, NOBODY LIKES IT, AND IT BANKRUPTS THE STUDIO. >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 25 00:01:32,859 --> 00:01:36,000 >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,796 >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. 27 00:01:36,863 --> 00:01:42,000 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES." 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:48,000 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES." 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,376 >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES." 30 00:01:50,443 --> 00:01:54,000 >>> IN THE PAST YEAR, HOSPITALS, PHARMACIES, TECH COMPANIES, LAS VEGAS' BIGGEST HOTELS AND CASINOS, HAVE BEEN 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,884 >>> IN THE PAST YEAR, HOSPITALS, PHARMACIES, TECH COMPANIES, LAS VEGAS' BIGGEST HOTELS AND CASINOS, HAVE BEEN 32 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:00,000 PARALYZED BY RANSOMWARE ATTACKS, IN WHICH HACKERS BREAK INTO A CORPORATE NETWORK, ENCRYPT, OR LOCK UP CRITICAL 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,625 PARALYZED BY RANSOMWARE ATTACKS, IN WHICH HACKERS BREAK INTO A CORPORATE NETWORK, ENCRYPT, OR LOCK UP CRITICAL 34 00:02:05,692 --> 00:02:06,000 FILES, AND HOLD THEM HOSTAGE UNTIL A RANSOM IS PAID. AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN APRIL, IT'S A CRIME THAT'S GROWING 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,000 FILES, AND HOLD THEM HOSTAGE UNTIL A RANSOM IS PAID. AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN APRIL, IT'S A CRIME THAT'S GROWING 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,202 FILES, AND HOLD THEM HOSTAGE UNTIL A RANSOM IS PAID. AS WE FIRST REPORTED IN APRIL, IT'S A CRIME THAT'S GROWING 37 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:18,000 MORE COSTLY AND DISRUPTIVE EVERY YEAR. NOW CYBER SECURITY RESEARCHERS FEAR IT'S ABOUT TO GET WORSE 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,840 MORE COSTLY AND DISRUPTIVE EVERY YEAR. NOW CYBER SECURITY RESEARCHERS FEAR IT'S ABOUT TO GET WORSE 39 00:02:20,907 --> 00:02:24,000 WITH THE EMERGENCE OF AN AUDACIOUS GROUP OF YOUNG CRIMINAL HACKERS FROM THE U.S., UK, AND CANADA, THE FBI CALLS, 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,147 WITH THE EMERGENCE OF AN AUDACIOUS GROUP OF YOUNG CRIMINAL HACKERS FROM THE U.S., UK, AND CANADA, THE FBI CALLS, 41 00:02:28,214 --> 00:02:30,000 SCATTERED SPIDER. MORE TROUBLING, THEY HAVE TEAMED UP WITH RUSSIA'S MOST NOTORIOUS RANSOMWARE GANG. 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:36,000 SCATTERED SPIDER. MORE TROUBLING, THEY HAVE TEAMED UP WITH RUSSIA'S MOST NOTORIOUS RANSOMWARE GANG. 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,326 SCATTERED SPIDER. MORE TROUBLING, THEY HAVE TEAMED UP WITH RUSSIA'S MOST NOTORIOUS RANSOMWARE GANG. 44 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:42,000 THIS PAST SEPTEMBER, ONE OF THE MOST PERNICIOUS RANSOMWARE ATTACKS IN HISTORY WAS UNLEASHED ON MGM RESORTS, 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,799 THIS PAST SEPTEMBER, ONE OF THE MOST PERNICIOUS RANSOMWARE ATTACKS IN HISTORY WAS UNLEASHED ON MGM RESORTS, 46 00:02:46,866 --> 00:02:48,000 COSTING THE HOTEL AND CASINO GIANT MORE THAN $100 MILLION. IT DISRUPTED OPERATIONS AT A DOZEN OF THE MOST RENOWNED 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:54,000 COSTING THE HOTEL AND CASINO GIANT MORE THAN $100 MILLION. IT DISRUPTED OPERATIONS AT A DOZEN OF THE MOST RENOWNED 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,010 COSTING THE HOTEL AND CASINO GIANT MORE THAN $100 MILLION. IT DISRUPTED OPERATIONS AT A DOZEN OF THE MOST RENOWNED 49 00:02:57,076 --> 00:03:00,000 GAMING PALACES ON THE LAS VEGAS STRIP, MGM GRAND, ARIA, MANDALAY BAY, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, THE BELLAGIO. 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 GAMING PALACES ON THE LAS VEGAS STRIP, MGM GRAND, ARIA, MANDALAY BAY, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, THE BELLAGIO. 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,491 GAMING PALACES ON THE LAS VEGAS STRIP, MGM GRAND, ARIA, MANDALAY BAY, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, THE BELLAGIO. 52 00:03:11,558 --> 00:03:12,000 ANTHONY CURTIS IS A LAS VEGAS FIXTURE. HE'S SO GOOD AT COUNTING CARDS, HE'S BEEN BANNED FROM CARD 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,295 ANTHONY CURTIS IS A LAS VEGAS FIXTURE. HE'S SO GOOD AT COUNTING CARDS, HE'S BEEN BANNED FROM CARD 54 00:03:15,361 --> 00:03:18,000 GAMES HERE. HE NOW PUBLISHING "THE LAS VEGAS ADVISER," A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER ON ALL THINGS VEGAS. 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,703 GAMES HERE. HE NOW PUBLISHING "THE LAS VEGAS ADVISER," A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER ON ALL THINGS VEGAS. 56 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:24,000 >> INCREDIBLY, WHEN IT HAPPENED, I WAS IN AN MGM PROPERTY. AND IT HAPPENED WHILE WE WERE 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,574 >> INCREDIBLY, WHEN IT HAPPENED, I WAS IN AN MGM PROPERTY. AND IT HAPPENED WHILE WE WERE 58 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:30,000 HAVING DINNER. THERE JUST BEGAN TO BE A RUMBLING THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:36,000 HAVING DINNER. THERE JUST BEGAN TO BE A RUMBLING THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,049 HAVING DINNER. THERE JUST BEGAN TO BE A RUMBLING THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. 61 00:03:36,115 --> 00:03:39,752 WHEN I WENT DOWN INTO THE CASINO, I COULD SEE THAT SLOT MACHINES 62 00:03:39,986 --> 00:03:42,000 WERE SITTING DARK, PEOPLE WERE SCRAMBLING AROUND. THE SHUTDOWN WAS STARTING TO TAKE EFFECT. 63 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,323 WERE SITTING DARK, PEOPLE WERE SCRAMBLING AROUND. THE SHUTDOWN WAS STARTING TO TAKE EFFECT. 64 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:47,794 >> ACROSS THE VEGAS STRIP, THOUSANDS OF SLOT MACHINES SUDDENLY STOPPED PAYING OUT. >> ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE ARE 65 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:48,000 GOING, HOW DO I GET MY MONEY? WHAT'S WRONG? PEOPLE WERE SITTING THERE WAITING AND COULDN'T GET PAID. 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,098 GOING, HOW DO I GET MY MONEY? WHAT'S WRONG? PEOPLE WERE SITTING THERE WAITING AND COULDN'T GET PAID. 67 00:03:52,165 --> 00:03:54,000 >> WERE THEY ANGRY? >> THEY WERE GETTING ANGRY, YEAH. AND THIS WAS JUST THE TIP OF 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,069 >> WERE THEY ANGRY? >> THEY WERE GETTING ANGRY, YEAH. AND THIS WAS JUST THE TIP OF 69 00:03:56,135 --> 00:04:00,000 THE ICEBERG. >> PARKING GATES FROZE, DIGITAL DOOR KEYS WOULDN'T WORK. AS COMPUTERS WENT DOWN, 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,000 THE ICEBERG. >> PARKING GATES FROZE, DIGITAL DOOR KEYS WOULDN'T WORK. AS COMPUTERS WENT DOWN, 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,579 THE ICEBERG. >> PARKING GATES FROZE, DIGITAL DOOR KEYS WOULDN'T WORK. AS COMPUTERS WENT DOWN, 72 00:04:06,646 --> 00:04:12,000 RESERVATIONS LOCKED UP AND LINES BACKED UP AT THE FRONT DESKS. >> ANYTHING THAT REQUIRED 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,885 RESERVATIONS LOCKED UP AND LINES BACKED UP AT THE FRONT DESKS. >> ANYTHING THAT REQUIRED 74 00:04:12,952 --> 00:04:18,000 TECHNOLOGY WAS NOT WORKING. >> SOUNDS LIKE CHAOS. >> NOBODY KNEW WHAT TO DO. INCLUDING EMPLOYEES. 75 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,726 TECHNOLOGY WAS NOT WORKING. >> SOUNDS LIKE CHAOS. >> NOBODY KNEW WHAT TO DO. INCLUDING EMPLOYEES. 76 00:04:19,792 --> 00:04:23,896 THE EMPLOYEES JUST HAD TO, YOU KNOW, BEG FORGIVENESS AND PATIENCE. >> LOOK, IT'S CORPORATE 77 00:04:23,963 --> 00:04:24,000 TERRORISM AT ITS FINEST. >> THE COMPANY DECLINED OUR INTERVIEW REQUEST. BUT AT A CONFERENCE A MONTH 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,000 TERRORISM AT ITS FINEST. >> THE COMPANY DECLINED OUR INTERVIEW REQUEST. BUT AT A CONFERENCE A MONTH 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,937 TERRORISM AT ITS FINEST. >> THE COMPANY DECLINED OUR INTERVIEW REQUEST. BUT AT A CONFERENCE A MONTH 80 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:36,000 AFTER THE HACK, MGM'S CEO ADMITTED THE DISRUPTIONS WERE DEVASTATING. >> FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,078 AFTER THE HACK, MGM'S CEO ADMITTED THE DISRUPTIONS WERE DEVASTATING. >> FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE 82 00:04:39,145 --> 00:04:42,000 DAYS, WITH 36,000 HOTEL ROOMS AND REGIONAL PROPERTIES, WE WERE COMPLETELY IN THE DARK. >> THE HACKERS DEMANDED $30 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,485 DAYS, WITH 36,000 HOTEL ROOMS AND REGIONAL PROPERTIES, WE WERE COMPLETELY IN THE DARK. >> THE HACKERS DEMANDED $30 84 00:04:45,551 --> 00:04:48,000 MILLION TO UNLOCK MGM'S DATA. THE COMPANY REFUSED, BUT THEY STILL PAID A PRICE, $100 MILLION IN LOST REVENUE AND 85 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,000 MILLION TO UNLOCK MGM'S DATA. THE COMPANY REFUSED, BUT THEY STILL PAID A PRICE, $100 MILLION IN LOST REVENUE AND 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,761 MILLION TO UNLOCK MGM'S DATA. THE COMPANY REFUSED, BUT THEY STILL PAID A PRICE, $100 MILLION IN LOST REVENUE AND 87 00:04:54,827 --> 00:05:00,000 MILLIONS MORE TO REBUILD THEIR SERVERS. >> SO, HOW DID THE INTRUDERS GET IN? 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,502 MILLIONS MORE TO REBUILD THEIR SERVERS. >> SO, HOW DID THE INTRUDERS GET IN? 89 00:05:02,568 --> 00:05:06,000 THROUGH A TECHNIQUE OF DECEPTION AND MANIPULATION CALLED SOCIAL ENGINEERING. FIRST, HACKERS ZEROED IN ON AN 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,575 THROUGH A TECHNIQUE OF DECEPTION AND MANIPULATION CALLED SOCIAL ENGINEERING. FIRST, HACKERS ZEROED IN ON AN 91 00:05:09,642 --> 00:05:12,000 EMPLOYEE, GATHERING INFORMATION FROM THE DARK WEB AND OPEN SOURCES, LIKE LINKEDIN. NEXT, A SMOOTH-TALKING HACKER 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,016 EMPLOYEE, GATHERING INFORMATION FROM THE DARK WEB AND OPEN SOURCES, LIKE LINKEDIN. NEXT, A SMOOTH-TALKING HACKER 93 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:18,000 IMPERSONATING THE EMPLOYEE CALLED THE MGM TECH HELP DESK AND CONVINCED THEM TO RESET HIS PASSWORD. 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,000 IMPERSONATING THE EMPLOYEE CALLED THE MGM TECH HELP DESK AND CONVINCED THEM TO RESET HIS PASSWORD. 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,858 IMPERSONATING THE EMPLOYEE CALLED THE MGM TECH HELP DESK AND CONVINCED THEM TO RESET HIS PASSWORD. 96 00:05:25,925 --> 00:05:30,000 >> WITH THAT, THE HACKER WAS INSIDE MGM'S COMPUTERS AND UNLEASHED THE DESTRUCTIVE MALWARE. 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,400 >> WITH THAT, THE HACKER WAS INSIDE MGM'S COMPUTERS AND UNLEASHED THE DESTRUCTIVE MALWARE. 98 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:36,000 ANTHONY CURTIS SAYS IT WAS THE CYBER CRIMINAL'S VERSION OF AN "OCEAN'S 11" HEIST. >> THEY WANT TO GET THE MONEY. 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,000 ANTHONY CURTIS SAYS IT WAS THE CYBER CRIMINAL'S VERSION OF AN "OCEAN'S 11" HEIST. >> THEY WANT TO GET THE MONEY. 100 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,476 ANTHONY CURTIS SAYS IT WAS THE CYBER CRIMINAL'S VERSION OF AN "OCEAN'S 11" HEIST. >> THEY WANT TO GET THE MONEY. 101 00:05:43,543 --> 00:05:48,000 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO GLOWING LIKE I LIKE THESE GUYS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST CROOKS, 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,000 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO GLOWING LIKE I LIKE THESE GUYS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST CROOKS, 103 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,320 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO GLOWING LIKE I LIKE THESE GUYS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST CROOKS, 104 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:57,523 RIGHT? BUT THESE HACKERS WERE ABLE TO TURN THE TABLES. THE CASINOS HAVE THEIR -- THEY 105 00:05:57,590 --> 00:06:00,000 HAVE THEIR SYSTEMS. THEY HAVE THEIR PROTECTIONS. THEY HAVE THEIR EXPERTS. THEY HAVE THEIR SECURITY. 106 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,760 HAVE THEIR SYSTEMS. THEY HAVE THEIR PROTECTIONS. THEY HAVE THEIR EXPERTS. THEY HAVE THEIR SECURITY. 107 00:06:00,827 --> 00:06:06,000 THESE GUYS ARE BETTER. >> LATER, MGM'S BIGGEST COMPETITOR, CAESARS ADMITTED IT ALSO SUFFERED A SOCIAL 108 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,234 THESE GUYS ARE BETTER. >> LATER, MGM'S BIGGEST COMPETITOR, CAESARS ADMITTED IT ALSO SUFFERED A SOCIAL 109 00:06:08,301 --> 00:06:12,000 ENGINEERING ATTACK AROUND THE SAME TIME, SUSPECTED BY THE SAME GROUP. BUT CAESARS PAID A RANSOM, 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,242 ENGINEERING ATTACK AROUND THE SAME TIME, SUSPECTED BY THE SAME GROUP. BUT CAESARS PAID A RANSOM, 111 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:18,000 REPORTEDLY $15 MILLION, AND SUFFERED NO DISRUPTIONS. >> FROM AN FBI PERSPECTIVE, OUR POSITION IS WE RECOMMEND A 112 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000 REPORTEDLY $15 MILLION, AND SUFFERED NO DISRUPTIONS. >> FROM AN FBI PERSPECTIVE, OUR POSITION IS WE RECOMMEND A 113 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,784 REPORTEDLY $15 MILLION, AND SUFFERED NO DISRUPTIONS. >> FROM AN FBI PERSPECTIVE, OUR POSITION IS WE RECOMMEND A 114 00:06:24,851 --> 00:06:29,789 RANSOM NOT BE PAID, BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A BUSINESS DECISION DURING A TIME OF CRISIS. 115 00:06:29,856 --> 00:06:30,000 >> BRYAN VORNDRAN IS HEAD OF THE FBI'S CYBER DIVISION. HE TOLD US RANSOMWARE ATTACKS HAVE 116 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,000 >> BRYAN VORNDRAN IS HEAD OF THE FBI'S CYBER DIVISION. HE TOLD US RANSOMWARE ATTACKS HAVE 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,000 >> BRYAN VORNDRAN IS HEAD OF THE FBI'S CYBER DIVISION. HE TOLD US RANSOMWARE ATTACKS HAVE 118 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,337 >> BRYAN VORNDRAN IS HEAD OF THE FBI'S CYBER DIVISION. HE TOLD US RANSOMWARE ATTACKS HAVE 119 00:06:44,904 --> 00:06:48,000 GROWN INCREASINGLY BRAZEN. >> ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND FOR THE U.S. 120 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,342 GROWN INCREASINGLY BRAZEN. >> ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND FOR THE U.S. 121 00:06:49,408 --> 00:06:53,012 ECONOMY AND FOR THE SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES. THERE'S ESTIMATES THAT GLOBAL LOSSES EXCEED 1 BILLION U.S. 122 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:54,000 DOLLARS PER YEAR. >> HAVE YOU MADE ANY ARRESTS IN THE LAS VEGAS CASES? >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK 123 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,149 DOLLARS PER YEAR. >> HAVE YOU MADE ANY ARRESTS IN THE LAS VEGAS CASES? >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK 124 00:06:56,215 --> 00:07:00,000 ABOUT SPECIFIC CASES OR SPECIFIC COMPANIES. >> BUT HE DID POINT US TOWARD THE PRIME SUSPECT. 125 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,454 ABOUT SPECIFIC CASES OR SPECIFIC COMPANIES. >> BUT HE DID POINT US TOWARD THE PRIME SUSPECT. 126 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:06,000 >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ACTORS BEHIND SOME OF THE MORE RECENT RANSOMWARE ATTACKS, THE NAME THAT'S GENERALLY RAISED IS 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,061 >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ACTORS BEHIND SOME OF THE MORE RECENT RANSOMWARE ATTACKS, THE NAME THAT'S GENERALLY RAISED IS 128 00:07:09,128 --> 00:07:12,000 SCATTERED SPIDER. THAT'S A CRIMINAL GROUP THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ATTENTION ON BECAUSE OF THE HAVOC THEY'RE 129 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,801 SCATTERED SPIDER. THAT'S A CRIMINAL GROUP THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ATTENTION ON BECAUSE OF THE HAVOC THEY'RE 130 00:07:14,867 --> 00:07:18,000 WREAKING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. >> SCATTERED SPIDER IS WHAT THE FBI CALLS A LOOSE KNIT WEB OF 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:24,000 WREAKING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. >> SCATTERED SPIDER IS WHAT THE FBI CALLS A LOOSE KNIT WEB OF 132 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,979 WREAKING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. >> SCATTERED SPIDER IS WHAT THE FBI CALLS A LOOSE KNIT WEB OF 133 00:07:27,046 --> 00:07:29,448 NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKING HACKERS 134 00:07:30,383 --> 00:07:34,987 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CASINO HACKS AND DOZEN MORE. THEIR SPECIALTY IS SOCIAL ENGINEERING. 135 00:07:35,054 --> 00:07:36,000 >> PART OF THEIR SUCCESS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE FLUENT IN WESTERN CULTURE, THEY KNOW HOW OUR SOCIETY WORKS, THEY KNOW 136 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,391 >> PART OF THEIR SUCCESS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE FLUENT IN WESTERN CULTURE, THEY KNOW HOW OUR SOCIETY WORKS, THEY KNOW 137 00:07:38,457 --> 00:07:42,000 WHAT TO SAY TO GET SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING. >> ALLISON NIXON IS CHIEF RESEARCH OFFICER AT UNIT 221B, 138 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,629 WHAT TO SAY TO GET SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING. >> ALLISON NIXON IS CHIEF RESEARCH OFFICER AT UNIT 221B, 139 00:07:43,696 --> 00:07:48,000 A CYBER SECURITY FIRM THAT FOCUSES ON ENGLISH-SPEAKING CYBER CRIMINALS. SHE SAYS SCATTERED SPIDER IS 140 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,772 A CYBER SECURITY FIRM THAT FOCUSES ON ENGLISH-SPEAKING CYBER CRIMINALS. SHE SAYS SCATTERED SPIDER IS 141 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:54,000 JUST ONE OF MANY ELICIT HACKING GROUPS, ALL PART OF A SPRAWLING COLLECTION OF ONLINE CRIMINALS CALLING THEMSELVES THE 142 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:00,000 JUST ONE OF MANY ELICIT HACKING GROUPS, ALL PART OF A SPRAWLING COLLECTION OF ONLINE CRIMINALS CALLING THEMSELVES THE 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,280 JUST ONE OF MANY ELICIT HACKING GROUPS, ALL PART OF A SPRAWLING COLLECTION OF ONLINE CRIMINALS CALLING THEMSELVES THE 144 00:08:01,347 --> 00:08:06,000 COMMUNITY, OR THE COM. >> THE COM IS A SUBCULTURE. IT IS SPECIFICALLY AN ENGLISH SPEAKING YOUTH SUBCULTURE THAT 145 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,324 COMMUNITY, OR THE COM. >> THE COM IS A SUBCULTURE. IT IS SPECIFICALLY AN ENGLISH SPEAKING YOUTH SUBCULTURE THAT 146 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:12,000 HAS ARISEN IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. IT'S VERY NEW, BUT IT'S SURPRISINGLY DISRUPTIVE. 147 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,830 HAS ARISEN IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. IT'S VERY NEW, BUT IT'S SURPRISINGLY DISRUPTIVE. 148 00:08:17,897 --> 00:08:18,000 >> MEMBERS OF THE COM HAVE HACKED INTO COMPANIES LIKE MICROSOFT, NVIDIA, AND ELECTRONIC ARTS. 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,000 >> MEMBERS OF THE COM HAVE HACKED INTO COMPANIES LIKE MICROSOFT, NVIDIA, AND ELECTRONIC ARTS. 150 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,670 >> MEMBERS OF THE COM HAVE HACKED INTO COMPANIES LIKE MICROSOFT, NVIDIA, AND ELECTRONIC ARTS. 151 00:08:24,737 --> 00:08:30,000 >> HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED? >> YEARS AGO, IT WAS MAYBE A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE. 152 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,210 >> HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED? >> YEARS AGO, IT WAS MAYBE A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE. 153 00:08:31,277 --> 00:08:36,000 BUT SINCE 2018, THE POPULATION HAS EXPLODED BECAUSE OF THE MONEY COMING IN TO THESE GROUPS. 154 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,717 BUT SINCE 2018, THE POPULATION HAS EXPLODED BECAUSE OF THE MONEY COMING IN TO THESE GROUPS. 155 00:08:37,783 --> 00:08:42,000 AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT. >> HOW ARE THEY CONNECTED? >> THEY CONNECT OVER THE 156 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,356 AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT. >> HOW ARE THEY CONNECTED? >> THEY CONNECT OVER THE 157 00:08:43,422 --> 00:08:48,000 INTERNET, SOCIAL SPACES WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT, GAMING SERVERS. IT'S ALMOST ANALOGOUS TO, LIKE, 158 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,829 INTERNET, SOCIAL SPACES WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT, GAMING SERVERS. IT'S ALMOST ANALOGOUS TO, LIKE, 159 00:08:49,896 --> 00:08:54,000 MAYBE THE BACK ALLEY WHERE THE BAD KIDS HANG OUT, BUT ON THE INTERNET. >> HOW OLD ARE WE TALKING 160 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,036 MAYBE THE BACK ALLEY WHERE THE BAD KIDS HANG OUT, BUT ON THE INTERNET. >> HOW OLD ARE WE TALKING 161 00:08:57,103 --> 00:09:00,000 ABOUT? >> MALES UNDER THE AGE OF 25. >> UNDER 25 DOWN TO -- HOW YOUNG? 162 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,975 ABOUT? >> MALES UNDER THE AGE OF 25. >> UNDER 25 DOWN TO -- HOW YOUNG? 163 00:09:03,042 --> 00:09:06,000 >> LIKE, 13, 14. >> INVOLVED THE IN PULLING OFF MAJOR CRIMES? >> YEAH. 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,515 >> LIKE, 13, 14. >> INVOLVED THE IN PULLING OFF MAJOR CRIMES? >> YEAH. 165 00:09:09,582 --> 00:09:12,000 >> MEMBERS COMMUNICATE AND POST PICTURES ON MESSAGING APPS LIKE TELEGRAM. THEIR CHATTER, A TOXIC STEW OF 166 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,556 >> MEMBERS COMMUNICATE AND POST PICTURES ON MESSAGING APPS LIKE TELEGRAM. THEIR CHATTER, A TOXIC STEW OF 167 00:09:17,623 --> 00:09:18,000 RACISM, SEXISM, BOASTING ABOUT THE MONEY THEY'VE SCAMMED AND HOW MENACING THEY ARE. >> THERE ARE THESE TOXIC ONLINE 168 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 RACISM, SEXISM, BOASTING ABOUT THE MONEY THEY'VE SCAMMED AND HOW MENACING THEY ARE. >> THERE ARE THESE TOXIC ONLINE 169 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,697 RACISM, SEXISM, BOASTING ABOUT THE MONEY THEY'VE SCAMMED AND HOW MENACING THEY ARE. >> THERE ARE THESE TOXIC ONLINE 170 00:09:24,764 --> 00:09:30,000 SPACES, WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE CAN SOCIALIZE AND MINGLE WITH CRIMINALS AND GANG MEMBERS. AND THE END RESULT OF ALL OF 171 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,038 SPACES, WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE CAN SOCIALIZE AND MINGLE WITH CRIMINALS AND GANG MEMBERS. AND THE END RESULT OF ALL OF 172 00:09:32,104 --> 00:09:36,000 THIS IS THIS ONLINE SUBCULTURE HAS FORMED THAT GLORIFIES CRIME, THAT MEASURES ONE'S PERSONAL WORTH BY HOW MUCH HARM 173 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,646 THIS IS THIS ONLINE SUBCULTURE HAS FORMED THAT GLORIFIES CRIME, THAT MEASURES ONE'S PERSONAL WORTH BY HOW MUCH HARM 174 00:09:40,713 --> 00:09:42,000 THEY CAN CAUSE THE WORLD. >> SCATTERED SPIDER IS ONE OF THE MOST SOPHISTICATED OFFSHOOTS OF THE COM. 175 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,787 THEY CAN CAUSE THE WORLD. >> SCATTERED SPIDER IS ONE OF THE MOST SOPHISTICATED OFFSHOOTS OF THE COM. 176 00:09:47,853 --> 00:09:48,000 THEIR CRIMINAL EXPLOITS CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF CYBER SECURITY COMPANIES AND OTHER HACKERS, INCLUDING THE MOST NOTORIOUS 177 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,000 THEIR CRIMINAL EXPLOITS CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF CYBER SECURITY COMPANIES AND OTHER HACKERS, INCLUDING THE MOST NOTORIOUS 178 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,028 THEIR CRIMINAL EXPLOITS CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF CYBER SECURITY COMPANIES AND OTHER HACKERS, INCLUDING THE MOST NOTORIOUS 179 00:09:56,095 --> 00:10:00,000 RUSSIAN RANSOMWARE GANG, BLACKCAT. THEY SAW THE YOUNG NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKING WESTERNERS AS 180 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,002 RUSSIAN RANSOMWARE GANG, BLACKCAT. THEY SAW THE YOUNG NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKING WESTERNERS AS 181 00:10:03,069 --> 00:10:06,000 A FORCE MULTIPLIER. BOTH CLAIMED CREDIT FOR THE MGM ATTACK. >> HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,476 A FORCE MULTIPLIER. BOTH CLAIMED CREDIT FOR THE MGM ATTACK. >> HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, 183 00:10:10,543 --> 00:10:12,000 RUSSIAN CYBER CRIMINALS DO NOT LIKE WORKING WITH WESTERN CYBER CRIMINALS. THERE WAS NOT ONLY A LANGUAGE 184 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,000 RUSSIAN CYBER CRIMINALS DO NOT LIKE WORKING WITH WESTERN CYBER CRIMINALS. THERE WAS NOT ONLY A LANGUAGE 185 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,517 RUSSIAN CYBER CRIMINALS DO NOT LIKE WORKING WITH WESTERN CYBER CRIMINALS. THERE WAS NOT ONLY A LANGUAGE 186 00:10:18,584 --> 00:10:24,000 BARRIER, BUT ALSO THEY KIND OF LOOKED DOWN ON THEM AND VIEWED THEM AS UNPROFESSIONAL. >> THE RUSSIAN AND WESTERN 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,857 BARRIER, BUT ALSO THEY KIND OF LOOKED DOWN ON THEM AND VIEWED THEM AS UNPROFESSIONAL. >> THE RUSSIAN AND WESTERN 188 00:10:24,924 --> 00:10:30,000 HACKERS MET IN THE SHADOWY CORNERS OF THE DARK WEB AND NOW ARE POWERFUL PARTNERS IN CRIME. SCATTERED SPIDER USES ITS 189 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,832 HACKERS MET IN THE SHADOWY CORNERS OF THE DARK WEB AND NOW ARE POWERFUL PARTNERS IN CRIME. SCATTERED SPIDER USES ITS 190 00:10:32,898 --> 00:10:36,000 ENGLISH AND SOCIAL ENGINEERING SKILLS TO BREAK IN TO WESTERN COMPANIES' NETWORKS. BLACKCAT PROVIDES ITS 191 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,971 ENGLISH AND SOCIAL ENGINEERING SKILLS TO BREAK IN TO WESTERN COMPANIES' NETWORKS. BLACKCAT PROVIDES ITS 192 00:10:39,038 --> 00:10:42,000 EXPERIENCE AND ITS MALWARE, USED IN SOME OF THE MOST SHOCKING RANSOMWARE ATTACKS. INCLUDING THE 2021 ATTACK ON 193 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,000 EXPERIENCE AND ITS MALWARE, USED IN SOME OF THE MOST SHOCKING RANSOMWARE ATTACKS. INCLUDING THE 2021 ATTACK ON 194 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,148 EXPERIENCE AND ITS MALWARE, USED IN SOME OF THE MOST SHOCKING RANSOMWARE ATTACKS. INCLUDING THE 2021 ATTACK ON 195 00:10:49,215 --> 00:10:54,000 COLONIAL PIPELINE, WHICH CAUSED GAS SHORTAGES UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST. AND THIS YEAR'S ATTACK ON 196 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,489 COLONIAL PIPELINE, WHICH CAUSED GAS SHORTAGES UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST. AND THIS YEAR'S ATTACK ON 197 00:10:56,555 --> 00:11:00,000 UNITEDHEALTH GROUP, WHICH DISRUPTED PHARMACIES NATIONWIDE. THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS 198 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,893 UNITEDHEALTH GROUP, WHICH DISRUPTED PHARMACIES NATIONWIDE. THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS 199 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,000 OFFERING A $15 MILLION REWARD FOR INFORMATION ON RUSSIA'S BLACKCAT. >> THIS IS BLACKCAT'S DATA LEAK 200 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,035 OFFERING A $15 MILLION REWARD FOR INFORMATION ON RUSSIA'S BLACKCAT. >> THIS IS BLACKCAT'S DATA LEAK 201 00:11:09,101 --> 00:11:12,000 SITE. >> JON DIMAGGIO, A FORMER ANALYST AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY NOW 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,673 SITE. >> JON DIMAGGIO, A FORMER ANALYST AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY NOW 203 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:18,000 INVESTIGATES RANSOMWARE AS CHIEF SECURITY STRATEGIST FOR THE CYBER SECURITY COMPANY. ANALYST ONE. 204 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,000 INVESTIGATES RANSOMWARE AS CHIEF SECURITY STRATEGIST FOR THE CYBER SECURITY COMPANY. ANALYST ONE. 205 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,420 INVESTIGATES RANSOMWARE AS CHIEF SECURITY STRATEGIST FOR THE CYBER SECURITY COMPANY. ANALYST ONE. 206 00:11:27,486 --> 00:11:28,354 >> THERE'S A TERM CALLED 207 00:11:28,587 --> 00:11:30,000 RANSOMWARE AS A SERVICE THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO THE STRUCTURE AND FORMAT OF THESE GANGS. >> DIMAGGIO SAYS RANSOMWARE AS 208 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,857 RANSOMWARE AS A SERVICE THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO THE STRUCTURE AND FORMAT OF THESE GANGS. >> DIMAGGIO SAYS RANSOMWARE AS 209 00:11:31,924 --> 00:11:36,000 A SERVICE HAS TAKEN THE CRIME TO A NEW LEVEL. THE LONG ESTABLISHED RUSSIAN GANGS, LIKE BLACKCAT, OFFER 210 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,698 A SERVICE HAS TAKEN THE CRIME TO A NEW LEVEL. THE LONG ESTABLISHED RUSSIAN GANGS, LIKE BLACKCAT, OFFER 211 00:11:39,765 --> 00:11:42,000 THEIR SERVICES, MALWARE, EXPERIENCE NEGOTIATING RANSOMS AND LAUNDERING MONEY, TO WHAT THEY CALL AFFILIATES, LIKE 212 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,138 THEIR SERVICES, MALWARE, EXPERIENCE NEGOTIATING RANSOMS AND LAUNDERING MONEY, TO WHAT THEY CALL AFFILIATES, LIKE 213 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:48,000 SCATTERED SPIDER. >> IN RETURN, WHEN A VICTIM PAYS AN EXTORTION, THE PROFIT THAT COMES FROM IT IS NOW 214 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,744 SCATTERED SPIDER. >> IN RETURN, WHEN A VICTIM PAYS AN EXTORTION, THE PROFIT THAT COMES FROM IT IS NOW 215 00:11:51,811 --> 00:11:54,000 SHARED AMONGST THOSE CRIMINALS. >> THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RUSSIAN GANGS ARE RUN LIKE LEGITIMATE COMPANIES, WITH EASY TO 216 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,984 SHARED AMONGST THOSE CRIMINALS. >> THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RUSSIAN GANGS ARE RUN LIKE LEGITIMATE COMPANIES, WITH EASY TO 217 00:11:59,051 --> 00:12:00,000 NAVIGATE ONLINE PLATFORMS, 24 HOUR SERVICE 218 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,924 NAVIGATE ONLINE PLATFORMS, 24 HOUR SERVICE 219 00:12:05,858 --> 00:12:06,000 DESKS, EVEN HUMAN RESOURCES TO HIRE SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS. >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SPECIALIZE IN DEVELOPING 220 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,129 DESKS, EVEN HUMAN RESOURCES TO HIRE SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS. >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SPECIALIZE IN DEVELOPING 221 00:12:10,196 --> 00:12:12,000 MALWARE AND RANSOMWARE, AND THEY'RE IN VERY HIGH DEMAND. >> YOU SAID YOU'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE. 222 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,202 MALWARE AND RANSOMWARE, AND THEY'RE IN VERY HIGH DEMAND. >> YOU SAID YOU'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE. 223 00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:18,000 >> YES. >> ARE THEY MOSTLY YOUNG MEN? >> THE LEADERSHIP ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR 40s, LATE 30s. 224 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,000 >> YES. >> ARE THEY MOSTLY YOUNG MEN? >> THE LEADERSHIP ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR 40s, LATE 30s. 225 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,214 >> YES. >> ARE THEY MOSTLY YOUNG MEN? >> THE LEADERSHIP ARE PEOPLE IN THEIR 40s, LATE 30s. 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,000 THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND. >> DIMAGGIO SAYS THE RUSSIAN 227 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,618 THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND. >> DIMAGGIO SAYS THE RUSSIAN 228 00:12:32,685 --> 00:12:36,000 GOVERNMENT PROVIDES A SAFE HAVEN FOR RANSOMWARE GANGS. >> AS LONG AS THEY DON'T TARGET, YOU KNOW, AN 229 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,289 GOVERNMENT PROVIDES A SAFE HAVEN FOR RANSOMWARE GANGS. >> AS LONG AS THEY DON'T TARGET, YOU KNOW, AN 230 00:12:37,356 --> 00:12:41,760 ORGANIZATION THAT FALLS WITHIN RUSSIA OR THE FORMER SOVIET STATE, THEY DON'T GET PROSECUTED. 231 00:12:41,827 --> 00:12:42,000 IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME. >> IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME TO ATTACK AMERICAN BUSINESSES? >> IT'S CRAZY, RIGHT? 232 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,000 IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME. >> IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME TO ATTACK AMERICAN BUSINESSES? >> IT'S CRAZY, RIGHT? 233 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,334 IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME. >> IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME TO ATTACK AMERICAN BUSINESSES? >> IT'S CRAZY, RIGHT? 234 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,438 THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, THOUGH. >> SO, IT'S LIKE THEY OPERATE WITH IMPUNITY. >> 100%. 235 00:12:52,505 --> 00:12:54,000 THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY THIS IS SUCH A POPULAR CRIME. >> RUSSIAN RANSOMWARE HAS BECOME SUCH A THREAT, THE ELITE 236 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,000 THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY THIS IS SUCH A POPULAR CRIME. >> RUSSIAN RANSOMWARE HAS BECOME SUCH A THREAT, THE ELITE 237 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,012 THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY THIS IS SUCH A POPULAR CRIME. >> RUSSIAN RANSOMWARE HAS BECOME SUCH A THREAT, THE ELITE 238 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:06,000 CYBER WARRIORS AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY HAVE JOINED THE FIGHT. BEFORE RETIRING LAST MARCH, ROB 239 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,000 CYBER WARRIORS AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY HAVE JOINED THE FIGHT. BEFORE RETIRING LAST MARCH, ROB 240 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,725 CYBER WARRIORS AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY HAVE JOINED THE FIGHT. BEFORE RETIRING LAST MARCH, ROB 241 00:13:12,791 --> 00:13:15,694 JOYCE WAS NSA'S DIRECTOR OF CYBER SECURITY. HE TOLD US THE COLONIAL PIPELINE ATTACK WAS A WAKEUP 242 00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:18,000 CALL. >> IT CAUSED US TO STEP BACK AND DECIDE THAT WE HAD TO PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO THIS 243 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,466 CALL. >> IT CAUSED US TO STEP BACK AND DECIDE THAT WE HAD TO PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO THIS 244 00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:24,000 FOREIGN THREAT. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS NSA HAS, WE HAVE HACKERS. AND IT REALLY, AT TIMES, TAKES 245 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,273 FOREIGN THREAT. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS NSA HAS, WE HAVE HACKERS. AND IT REALLY, AT TIMES, TAKES 246 00:13:27,339 --> 00:13:30,000 A HACKER TO DEFEAT A HACKER. THAT'S THE VALUE NSA CAN BRING IS WE CAN IDENTIFY PEOPLE, SPECIFIC PEOPLE, INVOLVED IN 247 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,114 A HACKER TO DEFEAT A HACKER. THAT'S THE VALUE NSA CAN BRING IS WE CAN IDENTIFY PEOPLE, SPECIFIC PEOPLE, INVOLVED IN 248 00:13:35,181 --> 00:13:36,000 SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES. 249 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:41,987 SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES. 250 00:13:42,221 --> 00:13:48,000 >> THE NSA HELPED IDENTIFY THE RUSSIAN HACKER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COLONIAL PIPELINE ATTACK. AND IN JANUARY 2022, AFTER 251 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,827 >> THE NSA HELPED IDENTIFY THE RUSSIAN HACKER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COLONIAL PIPELINE ATTACK. AND IN JANUARY 2022, AFTER 252 00:13:48,894 --> 00:13:54,000 MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS, RUSSIA ARRESTED HIM AND OTHER ACCOMPLICES. BUT FIVE WEEKS LATER, IT ALL 253 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,167 MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS, RUSSIA ARRESTED HIM AND OTHER ACCOMPLICES. BUT FIVE WEEKS LATER, IT ALL 254 00:13:55,234 --> 00:14:00,000 CAME UNDONE. >> FOLLOWING THE UKRAINE INVASION, THOSE PEOPLE WERE LET OUT OF JAIL. 255 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,040 CAME UNDONE. >> FOLLOWING THE UKRAINE INVASION, THOSE PEOPLE WERE LET OUT OF JAIL. 256 00:14:01,106 --> 00:14:06,000 >> SO, THEY'RE BACK IN BUSINESS. >> YES, SIR. >> AND NOW THEY'VE TEAMED UP 257 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,078 >> SO, THEY'RE BACK IN BUSINESS. >> YES, SIR. >> AND NOW THEY'VE TEAMED UP 258 00:14:06,145 --> 00:14:12,000 WITH THE YOUNG NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS OF SCATTERED SPIDER. THE FBI'S BRYAN VORNDRAN CALLS IT AN EVOLUTION OF CYBER CRIME. 259 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,453 WITH THE YOUNG NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS OF SCATTERED SPIDER. THE FBI'S BRYAN VORNDRAN CALLS IT AN EVOLUTION OF CYBER CRIME. 260 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,000 >> SO, IN THE CASE OF SCATTERED SPIDER, IS IT POWERFUL THAT THEY ARE WITH BLACKCAT? OF COURSE. 261 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,726 >> SO, IN THE CASE OF SCATTERED SPIDER, IS IT POWERFUL THAT THEY ARE WITH BLACKCAT? OF COURSE. 262 00:14:20,793 --> 00:14:24,000 I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WE ARE AGAINST THE VERY CAPABLE SET OF ADVERSARIES. 263 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,066 I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WE ARE AGAINST THE VERY CAPABLE SET OF ADVERSARIES. 264 00:14:27,132 --> 00:14:30,000 THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT THEIR WORK. WE'RE ALSO VERY GOOD AT OUR WORK. 265 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,102 THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT THEIR WORK. WE'RE ALSO VERY GOOD AT OUR WORK. 266 00:14:30,169 --> 00:14:36,000 >> IN JANUARY, THE BUREAU ARRESTED A 19-YEAR-OLD FROM FLORIDA, NOAH URBAN, CHARGED WITH STEALING CRYPTOCURRENCY. 267 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,710 >> IN JANUARY, THE BUREAU ARRESTED A 19-YEAR-OLD FROM FLORIDA, NOAH URBAN, CHARGED WITH STEALING CRYPTOCURRENCY. 268 00:14:37,776 --> 00:14:42,000 HE'S PLEADED NOT GUILTY. CYBER INVESTIGATORS HAVE TIED HIM TO SCATTERED SPIDER, BUT SO FAR NOT TO THE CASINO HEISTS. 269 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,000 HE'S PLEADED NOT GUILTY. CYBER INVESTIGATORS HAVE TIED HIM TO SCATTERED SPIDER, BUT SO FAR NOT TO THE CASINO HEISTS. 270 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,956 HE'S PLEADED NOT GUILTY. CYBER INVESTIGATORS HAVE TIED HIM TO SCATTERED SPIDER, BUT SO FAR NOT TO THE CASINO HEISTS. 271 00:14:51,023 --> 00:14:54,000 LAST MONTH TWO MORE ARRESTS BOTH TIED TO SCATTERED SPIDER. ONE ALLEGEDLY INVOLVED IN THE CASINO HACK. 272 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,929 LAST MONTH TWO MORE ARRESTS BOTH TIED TO SCATTERED SPIDER. ONE ALLEGEDLY INVOLVED IN THE CASINO HACK. 273 00:14:56,996 --> 00:15:00,000 OTHERS ARE STILL OUT THERE HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT. 274 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,571 OTHERS ARE STILL OUT THERE HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT. 275 00:15:05,804 --> 00:15:06,000 ALLISON NIXON CALLS LAS VEGAS A HARBINGER. >> THE LEVEL OF CYBER CRIME HAS RISEN TO THE POINT WHERE IT 276 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,741 ALLISON NIXON CALLS LAS VEGAS A HARBINGER. >> THE LEVEL OF CYBER CRIME HAS RISEN TO THE POINT WHERE IT 277 00:15:08,807 --> 00:15:12,000 FEELS OVERWHELMING, AND EVERY YEAR IT GETS WORSE. AND IT FEELS LIKE, AS DEFENDERS, WE'RE -- IT'S ALMOST 278 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,311 FEELS OVERWHELMING, AND EVERY YEAR IT GETS WORSE. AND IT FEELS LIKE, AS DEFENDERS, WE'RE -- IT'S ALMOST 279 00:15:12,378 --> 00:15:18,000 LIKE WE'RE WINNING EVERY BATTLE AND LOSING THE WAR. 280 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,000 LIKE WE'RE WINNING EVERY BATTLE AND LOSING THE WAR. 281 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,125 LIKE WE'RE WINNING EVERY BATTLE AND LOSING THE WAR. 282 00:15:26,191 --> 00:15:30,000 >>> 50 YEARS AGO, CEOS EARNED AROUND 20 TIMES THE WORKER SALARY. TODAY'S CEO CAN MAKE IN A DAY 283 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,796 >>> 50 YEARS AGO, CEOS EARNED AROUND 20 TIMES THE WORKER SALARY. TODAY'S CEO CAN MAKE IN A DAY 284 00:15:30,863 --> 00:15:36,000 WHAT THE AVERAGE LABORER MAKES IN A YEAR. NO WONDER THERE'S NOT SO MUCH A WEALTH GAP AS A WEALTH CANYON, 285 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,002 WHAT THE AVERAGE LABORER MAKES IN A YEAR. NO WONDER THERE'S NOT SO MUCH A WEALTH GAP AS A WEALTH CANYON, 286 00:15:37,069 --> 00:15:42,000 RENDERING THE AMERICAN DREAM, FOR SO MANY, A MIRAGE. INTO THIS CRISIS DRIVES PETE STAVROS, HEAVY WEIGHT IN THE 287 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,746 RENDERING THE AMERICAN DREAM, FOR SO MANY, A MIRAGE. INTO THIS CRISIS DRIVES PETE STAVROS, HEAVY WEIGHT IN THE 288 00:15:47,813 --> 00:15:48,000 WORLD OF PRIVATE EQUITY. IT'S AN INDUSTRY FAMOUS FOR ITS RUTHLESSNESS. HE'S EMERGED AS THE LEADING 289 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:54,000 WORLD OF PRIVATE EQUITY. IT'S AN INDUSTRY FAMOUS FOR ITS RUTHLESSNESS. HE'S EMERGED AS THE LEADING 290 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,658 WORLD OF PRIVATE EQUITY. IT'S AN INDUSTRY FAMOUS FOR ITS RUTHLESSNESS. HE'S EMERGED AS THE LEADING 291 00:15:59,892 --> 00:16:00,000 EVANGELIST FOR THE CONCEPT OF EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP. HIS IDEA, TAKE THE SAME INCENTIVES THAT HAVE LONG 292 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,329 EVANGELIST FOR THE CONCEPT OF EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP. HIS IDEA, TAKE THE SAME INCENTIVES THAT HAVE LONG 293 00:16:03,395 --> 00:16:06,000 HELPED THE C SUITE GET RICH AND APPLY THEM TO THE FOLKS WORKING FACTORIES, FLAT BEDS, AND FARMS. 294 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,069 HELPED THE C SUITE GET RICH AND APPLY THEM TO THE FOLKS WORKING FACTORIES, FLAT BEDS, AND FARMS. 295 00:16:10,135 --> 00:16:12,000 >> NORMAN ROCKWELL NEVER DID PAINT ARTHUR, ILLINOIS, BUT WHAT A CANVAS OF AMERICANA. BEATING SLOW IN THE HEART OF 296 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,710 >> NORMAN ROCKWELL NEVER DID PAINT ARTHUR, ILLINOIS, BUT WHAT A CANVAS OF AMERICANA. BEATING SLOW IN THE HEART OF 297 00:16:17,776 --> 00:16:18,000 THE HEARTLAND, THIS TOWN OF 2,200 SITS IN A POCKET OF AMISH COUNTRY, A PLACE WHERE PAST AND PRESENT COHABITATE. 298 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,000 THE HEARTLAND, THIS TOWN OF 2,200 SITS IN A POCKET OF AMISH COUNTRY, A PLACE WHERE PAST AND PRESENT COHABITATE. 299 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,018 THE HEARTLAND, THIS TOWN OF 2,200 SITS IN A POCKET OF AMISH COUNTRY, A PLACE WHERE PAST AND PRESENT COHABITATE. 300 00:16:26,085 --> 00:16:30,000 NOT LONG AGO, ARTHUR WAS THE UNLIKELY SITE OF A DARING EXPERIMENT IN AMERICAN CAPITALISM. 301 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,490 NOT LONG AGO, ARTHUR WAS THE UNLIKELY SITE OF A DARING EXPERIMENT IN AMERICAN CAPITALISM. 302 00:16:31,557 --> 00:16:36,000 C.H.I. OVERHEAD DOORS, WHICH MANUFACTURES GARAGE DOORS, WAS FOUNDED BY A LOCAL AMISH 303 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:36,562 C.H.I. OVERHEAD DOORS, WHICH MANUFACTURES GARAGE DOORS, WAS FOUNDED BY A LOCAL AMISH 304 00:16:36,628 --> 00:16:42,000 CARPENTER. THEN IN 2015, KKR, ONE OF THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PRIVATE EQUITY FIRMS, CAME TO THIS SMALL TOWN 305 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,737 CARPENTER. THEN IN 2015, KKR, ONE OF THE WORLD'S BIGGEST PRIVATE EQUITY FIRMS, CAME TO THIS SMALL TOWN 306 00:16:44,803 --> 00:16:48,000 AND PURCHASED C.H.I. FOR $700 MILLION. THAT'S WHEN BRAD EDWARDS, A 19- YEAR VETERAN OF THE FACTORY 307 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,411 AND PURCHASED C.H.I. FOR $700 MILLION. THAT'S WHEN BRAD EDWARDS, A 19- YEAR VETERAN OF THE FACTORY 308 00:16:52,478 --> 00:16:54,000 FLOOR, AND HIS WIFE STARTED GOOGLING THE NEW CORPORATE OVERLORDS. >> IT SEEMED LIKE THEY OWNED 309 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,884 FLOOR, AND HIS WIFE STARTED GOOGLING THE NEW CORPORATE OVERLORDS. >> IT SEEMED LIKE THEY OWNED 310 00:16:58,951 --> 00:17:00,000 THE WORLD. AND THEN THE RUMORS START GOING AROUND. THIS IS BIG NEW YORK PRIVATE 311 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,000 THE WORLD. AND THEN THE RUMORS START GOING AROUND. THIS IS BIG NEW YORK PRIVATE 312 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,826 THE WORLD. AND THEN THE RUMORS START GOING AROUND. THIS IS BIG NEW YORK PRIVATE 313 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:12,000 EQUITY, THEY'RE GOING TO SKIN THIS DOWN TO THE BARE BONES UNTIL THEY CAN SQUEEZE A FEW BUCKS OFF OF US AND THERE'S 314 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:12,931 EQUITY, THEY'RE GOING TO SKIN THIS DOWN TO THE BARE BONES UNTIL THEY CAN SQUEEZE A FEW BUCKS OFF OF US AND THERE'S 315 00:17:12,998 --> 00:17:18,000 GOING TO BE NOTHING LEFT. >> TODAY ROUGHLY 12 MILLION AMERICANS ARE EMPLOYED BY COMPANIES OWNED BY PRIVATE 316 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,000 GOING TO BE NOTHING LEFT. >> TODAY ROUGHLY 12 MILLION AMERICANS ARE EMPLOYED BY COMPANIES OWNED BY PRIVATE 317 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,144 GOING TO BE NOTHING LEFT. >> TODAY ROUGHLY 12 MILLION AMERICANS ARE EMPLOYED BY COMPANIES OWNED BY PRIVATE 318 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:27,045 EQUITY, FIRMS 319 00:17:27,312 --> 00:17:30,000 LIKE KKR, THAT BUYS BUSINESSES, ULTIMATELY RESELLING FOR A PROFIT, A PRACTICE THAT OFTEN INVOLVES CUTS AND LAYOFFS. 320 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,484 LIKE KKR, THAT BUYS BUSINESSES, ULTIMATELY RESELLING FOR A PROFIT, A PRACTICE THAT OFTEN INVOLVES CUTS AND LAYOFFS. 321 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:36,000 OVER A 10-YEAR SPAN, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT AT LEAST A HALF MILLION JOBS HAVE BEEN LOST TO PRIVATE EQUITY CUTBACKS. 322 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,858 OVER A 10-YEAR SPAN, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT AT LEAST A HALF MILLION JOBS HAVE BEEN LOST TO PRIVATE EQUITY CUTBACKS. 323 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:42,000 THAT WOULD HAVE DEVASTATED BRAD AND CRYSTAL EDWARDS. BURIED UNDER CREDIT CARD DEBT AND WITH NO SAVINGS, THEY HAD 324 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,298 THAT WOULD HAVE DEVASTATED BRAD AND CRYSTAL EDWARDS. BURIED UNDER CREDIT CARD DEBT AND WITH NO SAVINGS, THEY HAD 325 00:17:46,365 --> 00:17:48,000 TAKEN SECOND JOBS TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR THREE DAUGHTERS. >> SHE WORKED MIDNIGHTS AT 326 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:54,000 TAKEN SECOND JOBS TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR THREE DAUGHTERS. >> SHE WORKED MIDNIGHTS AT 327 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,309 TAKEN SECOND JOBS TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR THREE DAUGHTERS. >> SHE WORKED MIDNIGHTS AT 328 00:17:57,376 --> 00:17:59,778 CASEY'S, THE GAS STATION THAT 329 00:18:00,946 --> 00:18:04,716 USED TO BE OPEN 24 HOURS. >> YOU TOOK A LATE SHIFT AT THE GAS STATION. >> SOON AFTER KKR BOUGHT 330 00:18:04,783 --> 00:18:06,000 C.H.I., EMPLOYEES GATHERED TO MEET THE NEW BOSS, PETE STAVROS, WHO CAME BEARING AN UNEXPECTED MESSAGE. 331 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,000 C.H.I., EMPLOYEES GATHERED TO MEET THE NEW BOSS, PETE STAVROS, WHO CAME BEARING AN UNEXPECTED MESSAGE. 332 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,062 C.H.I., EMPLOYEES GATHERED TO MEET THE NEW BOSS, PETE STAVROS, WHO CAME BEARING AN UNEXPECTED MESSAGE. 333 00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:18,000 NO SLASHING, NO BURNING, C.H.I. WOULD BE GROWING AND THE ENTIRE WORKFORCE WOULD NOW BE PART OWNERS IN THE COMPANY. 334 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,934 NO SLASHING, NO BURNING, C.H.I. WOULD BE GROWING AND THE ENTIRE WORKFORCE WOULD NOW BE PART OWNERS IN THE COMPANY. 335 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 >> WHAT'S YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT? >> IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, 336 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,637 >> WHAT'S YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT? >> IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, 337 00:18:25,704 --> 00:18:30,000 RIGHT? YOU WOULD HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, NO, THIS IS JUST A -- 338 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,880 RIGHT? YOU WOULD HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, NO, THIS IS JUST A -- 339 00:18:35,113 --> 00:18:36,000 THEY'RE JUST DANGLING THE CARRY CARROT. 340 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,386 THEY'RE JUST DANGLING THE CARRY CARROT. 341 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,000 >> WHAT'S THE CATCH? >> YEAH. YEAH. WHAT'S THE CATCH. 342 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,790 >> WHAT'S THE CATCH? >> YEAH. YEAH. WHAT'S THE CATCH. 343 00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,593 EXACTLY. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE TALK IN AND SAY, I'VE HEARD PROMISES BEFORE. 344 00:18:47,659 --> 00:18:48,000 >> STAVROS HAD GIVEN THE EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP PITCH BEFORE AND WAS ACCUSTOMED TO A SKEPTICAL AUDIENCE. 345 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,063 >> STAVROS HAD GIVEN THE EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP PITCH BEFORE AND WAS ACCUSTOMED TO A SKEPTICAL AUDIENCE. 346 00:18:51,129 --> 00:18:54,000 >> DAY ONE WE SIT DOWN WITH THE WORKFORCE. WE EXPLAIN AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS OUR BUSINESS 347 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,666 >> DAY ONE WE SIT DOWN WITH THE WORKFORCE. WE EXPLAIN AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS OUR BUSINESS 348 00:18:54,733 --> 00:18:58,537 PLAN, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADED, THESE ARE THE KEY PRIORITIES. THERE IS A POOL OF OWNERSHIP 349 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:00,000 SET ASIDE FOR YOU. >> HIS IDEA REALLY IS SIMPLE, GIVE RANK-AND-FILE WORKERS A STAKE IN THEIR COMPANY ON TOP 350 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,375 SET ASIDE FOR YOU. >> HIS IDEA REALLY IS SIMPLE, GIVE RANK-AND-FILE WORKERS A STAKE IN THEIR COMPANY ON TOP 351 00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:06,000 OF SALARY, PLUS A VOICE IN HOW THE BUSINESSES RUN DAY-TO-DAY. WITH SKIN IN THE GAME, THEY'LL BE MOTIVATED TO WORK HARDER AND 352 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,482 OF SALARY, PLUS A VOICE IN HOW THE BUSINESSES RUN DAY-TO-DAY. WITH SKIN IN THE GAME, THEY'LL BE MOTIVATED TO WORK HARDER AND 353 00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:12,000 SMARTER. >> OWNERSHIP IS REALLY AN ETHOS. IT'S A MINDSET. 354 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,954 SMARTER. >> OWNERSHIP IS REALLY AN ETHOS. IT'S A MINDSET. 355 00:19:16,021 --> 00:19:18,000 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WHAT YOU WANT ARE PEOPLE FEELING LIKE THESE ARE MY PRODUCTS. SO, IF I'M SENDING OUT POOR 356 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,000 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WHAT YOU WANT ARE PEOPLE FEELING LIKE THESE ARE MY PRODUCTS. SO, IF I'M SENDING OUT POOR 357 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,230 WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WHAT YOU WANT ARE PEOPLE FEELING LIKE THESE ARE MY PRODUCTS. SO, IF I'M SENDING OUT POOR 358 00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:30,000 QUALITY, THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. IF OUR PRODUCTIVITY IS DOWN OR IF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE UNHAPPY, 359 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,035 QUALITY, THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. IF OUR PRODUCTIVITY IS DOWN OR IF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE UNHAPPY, 360 00:19:30,102 --> 00:19:34,606 THESE ARE MY CUSTOMERS. AND THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT WHEN THEY PAY OFF, YOU DO GET BEHAVIOR 361 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:36,000 CHANGE. YOU GET PEOPLE ON THE SHOP FLOOR SAYING, I HAVE IDEAS ON HOW TO REDUCE SCRAP OR IMPROVE 362 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,344 CHANGE. YOU GET PEOPLE ON THE SHOP FLOOR SAYING, I HAVE IDEAS ON HOW TO REDUCE SCRAP OR IMPROVE 363 00:19:39,411 --> 00:19:42,000 QUALITY. >> THE CONCEPT IS NOT A NEW ONE. IN THE '70s CONGRESS PASSED 364 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,000 QUALITY. >> THE CONCEPT IS NOT A NEW ONE. IN THE '70s CONGRESS PASSED 365 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,253 QUALITY. >> THE CONCEPT IS NOT A NEW ONE. IN THE '70s CONGRESS PASSED 366 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,123 LAWS TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP, A STORY "60 MINUTES" COVERED AT THE TIME. >> A YEAR AGO, THE 75 EMPLOYEES 367 00:19:51,189 --> 00:19:54,000 OF THIS COMPANY WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO BECOME PART OWNERS. >> BUT AS CORPORATE AMERICA 368 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,530 OF THIS COMPANY WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO BECOME PART OWNERS. >> BUT AS CORPORATE AMERICA 369 00:19:58,597 --> 00:20:00,000 STRUGGLED WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF A NEW MODEL, THE EFFORT SPUTTERED. TODAY WHILE IT'S COMMON FOR 370 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,634 STRUGGLED WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF A NEW MODEL, THE EFFORT SPUTTERED. TODAY WHILE IT'S COMMON FOR 371 00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:06,000 EXECUTIVES TO BE COMPENSATED WITH SHARES, FEWER THAN A QUARTER OF PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYEES OWN A STAKE IN THEIR 372 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,007 EXECUTIVES TO BE COMPENSATED WITH SHARES, FEWER THAN A QUARTER OF PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYEES OWN A STAKE IN THEIR 373 00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:12,000 COMPANY, ALL WHILE THEIR WAGES AND WEALTH HAVE STAGNATED. DEVOUT CAPITALIST STEVE STAVROS CAN SOUND DOWN RIGHT 374 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,582 COMPANY, ALL WHILE THEIR WAGES AND WEALTH HAVE STAGNATED. DEVOUT CAPITALIST STEVE STAVROS CAN SOUND DOWN RIGHT 375 00:20:16,648 --> 00:20:18,000 REVOLUTIONARY. >> YOU SAID THE SOCIAL CONTRACT IN AMERICA IS BROKEN RIGHT NOW. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 376 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,321 REVOLUTIONARY. >> YOU SAID THE SOCIAL CONTRACT IN AMERICA IS BROKEN RIGHT NOW. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 377 00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:24,000 >> THAT WORKERS FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE HOPE. THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET AHEAD. 378 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,359 >> THAT WORKERS FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE HOPE. THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET AHEAD. 379 00:20:27,426 --> 00:20:30,000 THERE'S HALF OF AMERICA EARNS AN HOURLY WAGE. MOST OF THEM HAVE NO ASSETS, NO PLANS FOR A DIGNIFIED 380 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,765 THERE'S HALF OF AMERICA EARNS AN HOURLY WAGE. MOST OF THEM HAVE NO ASSETS, NO PLANS FOR A DIGNIFIED 381 00:20:33,832 --> 00:20:36,000 RETIREMENT. >> THIS, STAVROS SAYS, IS NOT JUST BAD FOR SOCIETY. IT'S BAD FOR BALANCE SHEETS. 382 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,939 RETIREMENT. >> THIS, STAVROS SAYS, IS NOT JUST BAD FOR SOCIETY. IT'S BAD FOR BALANCE SHEETS. 383 00:20:41,006 --> 00:20:42,000 >> 70% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THEIR JOBS. SOMEWHERE AROUND 20% HATE THEIR JOBS. 384 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:48,000 >> 70% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THEIR JOBS. SOMEWHERE AROUND 20% HATE THEIR JOBS. 385 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,000 >> 70% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THEIR JOBS. SOMEWHERE AROUND 20% HATE THEIR JOBS. 386 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:00,000 >> 70% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THEIR JOBS. SOMEWHERE AROUND 20% HATE THEIR JOBS. 387 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,597 >> 70% OF AMERICANS DON'T LIKE THEIR JOBS. SOMEWHERE AROUND 20% HATE THEIR JOBS. 388 00:23:23,935 --> 00:23:24,000 ALSO OFFERS WORKERS FREE FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS. BUT HE'S QUICK TO STRESS ANY 389 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,000 ALSO OFFERS WORKERS FREE FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS. BUT HE'S QUICK TO STRESS ANY 390 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,510 ALSO OFFERS WORKERS FREE FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS. BUT HE'S QUICK TO STRESS ANY 391 00:23:31,576 --> 00:23:36,000 PAYOUT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CUP AND HE WHETHER KKR 392 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,000 PAYOUT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CUP AND HE WHETHER KKR 393 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,755 PAYOUT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CUP AND HE WHETHER KKR 394 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:54,000 LOOKS, WE ARE SELLING BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO POT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW. THAT DAY WILL COME. 395 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:00,000 LOOKS, WE ARE SELLING BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO POT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW. THAT DAY WILL COME. 396 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,309 LOOKS, WE ARE SELLING BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO POT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW. THAT DAY WILL COME. 397 00:24:04,376 --> 00:24:06,000 THAT AFTER ALL IS FIVE EQUITY. A SERVICE VILIFIED FOR ITS BUSINESS PRACTICE. >ITS SCREEN WASHING, A WATERING 398 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:12,000 THAT AFTER ALL IS FIVE EQUITY. A SERVICE VILIFIED FOR ITS BUSINESS PRACTICE. >ITS SCREEN WASHING, A WATERING 399 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,755 THAT AFTER ALL IS FIVE EQUITY. A SERVICE VILIFIED FOR ITS BUSINESS PRACTICE. >ITS SCREEN WASHING, A WATERING 400 00:24:16,822 --> 00:24:18,000 DOWN OF THE REAL EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE TRACTORS LIKE THAT? 401 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,327 DOWN OF THE REAL EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE TRACTORS LIKE THAT? 402 00:24:22,394 --> 00:24:24,000 >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WORKERS ARE GETTING THERE'S TOO MUCH SUBSTANCE FOR SOME OF THIS DRUG IT OFF AND GO, THAT IS FAKE. 403 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,000 >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WORKERS ARE GETTING THERE'S TOO MUCH SUBSTANCE FOR SOME OF THIS DRUG IT OFF AND GO, THAT IS FAKE. 404 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,335 >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WORKERS ARE GETTING THERE'S TOO MUCH SUBSTANCE FOR SOME OF THIS DRUG IT OFF AND GO, THAT IS FAKE. 405 00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:36,000 >> COMES TO SQUEEZE PROFITS, DOES THAT CREATE ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES? >> I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT 406 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:42,000 >> COMES TO SQUEEZE PROFITS, DOES THAT CREATE ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES? >> I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT 407 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,747 >> COMES TO SQUEEZE PROFITS, DOES THAT CREATE ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES? >> I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT 408 00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:48,000 CHARACTERIZATION. CERTAINLY MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE BOTH IN THE INDUSTRY AND IN CAPITALISM, IF ALL PRIVATE 409 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,889 CHARACTERIZATION. CERTAINLY MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE BOTH IN THE INDUSTRY AND IN CAPITALISM, IF ALL PRIVATE 410 00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:54,000 EQUITY WAS PLUNDERING, I JUST DO NOT THINK IT WOULD BE WHERE IT IS AT WHICH IS CONTINUING TO GAIN MARKET SHARE. 411 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,497 EQUITY WAS PLUNDERING, I JUST DO NOT THINK IT WOULD BE WHERE IT IS AT WHICH IS CONTINUING TO GAIN MARKET SHARE. 412 00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:00,000 >> WHEN THERE IS A SALE TOP EXECUTIVES MAKE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE 413 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,000 >> WHEN THERE IS A SALE TOP EXECUTIVES MAKE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE 414 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,375 >> WHEN THERE IS A SALE TOP EXECUTIVES MAKE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE 415 00:25:10,442 --> 00:25:12,000 THINGS I STRUGGLE WITH ABOUT EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP IN GENERAL. IT'S GIVING PEOPLE A CHANCE TO GET A LEG UP BUT IT'S NOT GOING 416 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,448 THINGS I STRUGGLE WITH ABOUT EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP IN GENERAL. IT'S GIVING PEOPLE A CHANCE TO GET A LEG UP BUT IT'S NOT GOING 417 00:25:16,514 --> 00:25:18,000 TO SOLVE THE WEALTH INEQUALITY PROBLEM IN THE END. >> TALK ABOUT THIS YAWNING WEALTH GAP WE HAVE IN THE 418 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,088 TO SOLVE THE WEALTH INEQUALITY PROBLEM IN THE END. >> TALK ABOUT THIS YAWNING WEALTH GAP WE HAVE IN THE 419 00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:24,000 COUNTRY. DOES PRIVATE EQUITY HELP THAT GAP OR HELP CREATED? >> WE ARE INVESTING CAPITAL AND 420 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,000 COUNTRY. DOES PRIVATE EQUITY HELP THAT GAP OR HELP CREATED? >> WE ARE INVESTING CAPITAL AND 421 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,495 COUNTRY. DOES PRIVATE EQUITY HELP THAT GAP OR HELP CREATED? >> WE ARE INVESTING CAPITAL AND 422 00:25:30,562 --> 00:25:36,000 THAT CAPITAL IS OWED FOR THE MOST PART BY WEALTHY PEOPLE. IN A SENSE WE ARE COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM. 423 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,436 THAT CAPITAL IS OWED FOR THE MOST PART BY WEALTHY PEOPLE. IN A SENSE WE ARE COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM. 424 00:25:38,503 --> 00:25:42,000 SO WE WILL BE EXPERIMENTING. WE WILL LEARN. >> AND IMPERFECT MESSENGER PERHAPS, BUT PETE HAS EMERGED AS 425 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,178 SO WE WILL BE EXPERIMENTING. WE WILL LEARN. >> AND IMPERFECT MESSENGER PERHAPS, BUT PETE HAS EMERGED AS 426 00:25:47,245 --> 00:25:48,000 A LEADING APOSTLE, FOUNDING A NONPROFIT TO TEACH EXECUTIVES HOW TO DEPLOY THE MODEL BUT HE CRISSCROSSES THE COUNTRY 427 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,000 A LEADING APOSTLE, FOUNDING A NONPROFIT TO TEACH EXECUTIVES HOW TO DEPLOY THE MODEL BUT HE CRISSCROSSES THE COUNTRY 428 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,019 A LEADING APOSTLE, FOUNDING A NONPROFIT TO TEACH EXECUTIVES HOW TO DEPLOY THE MODEL BUT HE CRISSCROSSES THE COUNTRY 429 00:25:54,085 --> 00:26:00,000 PREACHING THE GOSPEL AT BUSINESS SCHOOLS AND BEFORE D.C. LAWMAKERS, ADVOCATING TECH UPDATE THE TAX CODE TO 430 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,026 PREACHING THE GOSPEL AT BUSINESS SCHOOLS AND BEFORE D.C. LAWMAKERS, ADVOCATING TECH UPDATE THE TAX CODE TO 431 00:26:01,092 --> 00:26:06,000 INCENTIVIZE EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP WHICH HE HOPES WILL SOON BE STANDARD BUSINESS PRACTICE AND NOT AN EXOTIC EXCEPTION. 432 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,301 INCENTIVIZE EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP WHICH HE HOPES WILL SOON BE STANDARD BUSINESS PRACTICE AND NOT AN EXOTIC EXCEPTION. 433 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:12,000 >> THIS IS AN UNPOPULAR IDEA WITH LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES, MAGGART REPUBLICANS 434 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,572 >> THIS IS AN UNPOPULAR IDEA WITH LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES, MAGGART REPUBLICANS 435 00:26:14,639 --> 00:26:18,000 -->> THIS IS A BENEFIT TIED TO WORK. THE OUTCOMES ARE DRIVEN BY PERFORMANCE. 436 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,781 -->> THIS IS A BENEFIT TIED TO WORK. THE OUTCOMES ARE DRIVEN BY PERFORMANCE. 437 00:26:22,847 --> 00:26:24,000 >> AND ABOUT PERFORMANCE, NOTHING HAS MATCH THAT WITH CHIN ARTHUR, ILLINOIS. IN 2022, KKR SOLD THE BUSINESS 438 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:30,000 >> AND ABOUT PERFORMANCE, NOTHING HAS MATCH THAT WITH CHIN ARTHUR, ILLINOIS. IN 2022, KKR SOLD THE BUSINESS 439 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,492 >> AND ABOUT PERFORMANCE, NOTHING HAS MATCH THAT WITH CHIN ARTHUR, ILLINOIS. IN 2022, KKR SOLD THE BUSINESS 440 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:36,000 AND WERE SUMMONED TO THE FACT 441 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,861 AND WERE SUMMONED TO THE FACT 442 00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:42,000 PETEGETS UP THERE AND ANNOUNCEST THE PAYOUTS ARE GOING TO BE. >> HONESTLY I'M EXCITED FOR MYSELF. 443 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,705 PETEGETS UP THERE AND ANNOUNCEST THE PAYOUTS ARE GOING TO BE. >> HONESTLY I'M EXCITED FOR MYSELF. 444 00:26:46,771 --> 00:26:48,000 HOW COULD YOU NOT BE? THEY START TOSSING THOSE NUMBERS AROUND. >> EVEN OUR NEWEST COLLEAGUES 445 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,676 HOW COULD YOU NOT BE? THEY START TOSSING THOSE NUMBERS AROUND. >> EVEN OUR NEWEST COLLEAGUES 446 00:26:51,743 --> 00:26:54,000 ARE GOING TO GET A MEANINGFUL PAYOUT OF $20,000. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> $20,000, $50,000, $100,000. 447 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:00,000 ARE GOING TO GET A MEANINGFUL PAYOUT OF $20,000. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> $20,000, $50,000, $100,000. 448 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,356 ARE GOING TO GET A MEANINGFUL PAYOUT OF $20,000. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> $20,000, $50,000, $100,000. 449 00:27:04,422 --> 00:27:06,000 HOLY COW. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO 19 YEARS YET. >> TO YOUR SENIORITY LEVEL. 450 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,594 HOLY COW. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO 19 YEARS YET. >> TO YOUR SENIORITY LEVEL. 451 00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:12,000 >> THE PAYOUT IS SIX AND A HALF TIMES. >> BRAD AND KRYSTAL WERE TOO MODEST TO REVEAL EXACT NUMBERS 452 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:18,000 >> THE PAYOUT IS SIX AND A HALF TIMES. >> BRAD AND KRYSTAL WERE TOO MODEST TO REVEAL EXACT NUMBERS 453 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,137 >> THE PAYOUT IS SIX AND A HALF TIMES. >> BRAD AND KRYSTAL WERE TOO MODEST TO REVEAL EXACT NUMBERS 454 00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:24,000 BUT TOLD US THEIR CHECKS WERE IN THE MID SIX FIGURES. SPEAK A LIFE CHANGING. >> ABSOLUTELY. 455 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,709 BUT TOLD US THEIR CHECKS WERE IN THE MID SIX FIGURES. SPEAK A LIFE CHANGING. >> ABSOLUTELY. 456 00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:30,000 >> NOT JUST FOR US BUT OUR KIDS TOO. >> OUR KIDS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT US GET STRESSED OUT FOR 457 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,316 >> NOT JUST FOR US BUT OUR KIDS TOO. >> OUR KIDS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT US GET STRESSED OUT FOR 458 00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:36,000 MONEY. WE AREN'T WORKING NIGHT SHIFTS. >> THE EDWARDS FAMILY DONATED TO THEIR CHURCH. 459 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,054 MONEY. WE AREN'T WORKING NIGHT SHIFTS. >> THE EDWARDS FAMILY DONATED TO THEIR CHURCH. 460 00:27:36,121 --> 00:27:42,000 THEY FINALLY PAID OFF THAT CREDIT CARD DEBT. THEY STARTED A COLLEGE FUND FOR THEIR KIDS. 461 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,694 THEY FINALLY PAID OFF THAT CREDIT CARD DEBT. THEY STARTED A COLLEGE FUND FOR THEIR KIDS. 462 00:27:42,761 --> 00:27:48,000 HE'S STILL STUDYING FOR HIS AT NIGHT. ACH I EMPLOYEES HAD MONEY TO SPEND IN AND ON THE 463 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:54,000 HE'S STILL STUDYING FOR HIS AT NIGHT. ACH I EMPLOYEES HAD MONEY TO SPEND IN AND ON THE 464 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,573 HE'S STILL STUDYING FOR HIS AT NIGHT. ACH I EMPLOYEES HAD MONEY TO SPEND IN AND ON THE 465 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,000 COMMUNITY. >> DO YOU THINK THAT EMPLOYEES CAN TURN INTO EMPLOYEE OWNERS. CAN THAT HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF 466 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,582 COMMUNITY. >> DO YOU THINK THAT EMPLOYEES CAN TURN INTO EMPLOYEE OWNERS. CAN THAT HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF 467 00:28:04,649 --> 00:28:06,000 ILLINOIS, IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE? >> ABSOLUTELY IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE. 468 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,821 ILLINOIS, IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE? >> ABSOLUTELY IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE. 469 00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:12,000 LOOK OUTSIDE OF OUR WINDOW. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A HOUSE AND MILES OF CORNFIELD. IF IT CAN HAPPEN HERE, WHERE CAN 470 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,494 LOOK OUTSIDE OF OUR WINDOW. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A HOUSE AND MILES OF CORNFIELD. IF IT CAN HAPPEN HERE, WHERE CAN 471 00:28:16,561 --> 00:28:18,000 IT NOT HAPPEN? >> EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP WAS NOT A FAD OR A ONE-TIME WINDFALL. AFTER KKR SOLD, THE WORKERS GOT 472 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:24,000 IT NOT HAPPEN? >> EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP WAS NOT A FAD OR A ONE-TIME WINDFALL. AFTER KKR SOLD, THE WORKERS GOT 473 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,605 IT NOT HAPPEN? >> EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP WAS NOT A FAD OR A ONE-TIME WINDFALL. AFTER KKR SOLD, THE WORKERS GOT 474 00:28:27,672 --> 00:28:30,000 A STAKE IN THE BUSINESS AFTER THE NEW OWNERS. WHY CHANGE A WINNING CULTURE? WHY MESS WITH 475 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,000 A STAKE IN THE BUSINESS AFTER THE NEW OWNERS. WHY CHANGE A WINNING CULTURE? WHY MESS WITH 476 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,000 A STAKE IN THE BUSINESS AFTER THE NEW OWNERS. WHY CHANGE A WINNING CULTURE? WHY MESS WITH 477 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,290 A STAKE IN THE BUSINESS AFTER THE NEW OWNERS. WHY CHANGE A WINNING CULTURE? WHY MESS WITH 478 00:28:45,356 --> 00:28:48,000 >> FOR YEARS, HOLLYWOOD HAS ACQUIRED ON TOWERING ACTION HEROES TO GET PEOPLE TO THE MOVIES BID BUT LAST SUMMER IT 479 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,097 >> FOR YEARS, HOLLYWOOD HAS ACQUIRED ON TOWERING ACTION HEROES TO GET PEOPLE TO THE MOVIES BID BUT LAST SUMMER IT 480 00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:54,000 WAS AN 11 AND A HALF INCH DOLL COMPLETE WITH PLASTIC ACCESSORIES AND A PERMANENTLY TANNED SIDEKICK THAT DOMINATED 481 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,969 WAS AN 11 AND A HALF INCH DOLL COMPLETE WITH PLASTIC ACCESSORIES AND A PERMANENTLY TANNED SIDEKICK THAT DOMINATED 482 00:28:58,036 --> 00:29:00,000 THE BOX OFFICE. "BARBIE" BROUGHT IN MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS WORLDWIDE, THE HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF LAST 483 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:06,000 THE BOX OFFICE. "BARBIE" BROUGHT IN MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS WORLDWIDE, THE HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF LAST 484 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,344 THE BOX OFFICE. "BARBIE" BROUGHT IN MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS WORLDWIDE, THE HIGHEST GROSSING MOVIE OF LAST 485 00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:12,000 YEAR. THE BRAINS BEHIND THE OUT-OF-THE-BOX BLOCKBUSTER IS AN EQUALLY UNIQUE FILMMAKER, GRETA 486 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,552 YEAR. THE BRAINS BEHIND THE OUT-OF-THE-BOX BLOCKBUSTER IS AN EQUALLY UNIQUE FILMMAKER, GRETA 487 00:29:14,619 --> 00:29:18,000 GERWIG. AS WE LAST TOLD YOU, GERWIG IS BEST KNOWN FOR HER WORK AS AN ACTOR, DIRECTOR, SCREENWRITER ON 488 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,728 GERWIG. AS WE LAST TOLD YOU, GERWIG IS BEST KNOWN FOR HER WORK AS AN ACTOR, DIRECTOR, SCREENWRITER ON 489 00:29:23,795 --> 00:29:24,000 THE SMALLER FILMS BLESSED BY TOY MAKER WAS THE DREAM JOB AND FEARED MIGHT END HER CAREER. ON A PASTEL COLORED SOUNDSTAGE 490 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,000 THE SMALLER FILMS BLESSED BY TOY MAKER WAS THE DREAM JOB AND FEARED MIGHT END HER CAREER. ON A PASTEL COLORED SOUNDSTAGE 491 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:36,000 THE SMALLER FILMS BLESSED BY TOY MAKER WAS THE DREAM JOB AND FEARED MIGHT END HER CAREER. ON A PASTEL COLORED SOUNDSTAGE 492 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,408 THE SMALLER FILMS BLESSED BY TOY MAKER WAS THE DREAM JOB AND FEARED MIGHT END HER CAREER. ON A PASTEL COLORED SOUNDSTAGE 493 00:29:37,475 --> 00:29:42,000 JUST OUTSIDE OF LONDON, NO ONE SEEMED TO BE HAVING MORE FUN THAN THE SET OF "BARBIE" THAN DIRECTOR GRETA GERWIG. 494 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,551 JUST OUTSIDE OF LONDON, NO ONE SEEMED TO BE HAVING MORE FUN THAN THE SET OF "BARBIE" THAN DIRECTOR GRETA GERWIG. 495 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:48,000 GERWIG HAS A WAY OF MAKING THINGS LOOK LIKE CHILD'S PLAY AND MAKING "BARBIE" WAS NOT BID THE FILMS $100 MILLION 496 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:54,000 GERWIG HAS A WAY OF MAKING THINGS LOOK LIKE CHILD'S PLAY AND MAKING "BARBIE" WAS NOT BID THE FILMS $100 MILLION 497 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,425 GERWIG HAS A WAY OF MAKING THINGS LOOK LIKE CHILD'S PLAY AND MAKING "BARBIE" WAS NOT BID THE FILMS $100 MILLION 498 00:29:54,492 --> 00:30:00,000 PRODUCTION BUDGET WAS DWARFED ONLY BY THE SIZE OF ITS MARKETING BUDGET, A REPORTED $150 MILLION. 499 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,534 PRODUCTION BUDGET WAS DWARFED ONLY BY THE SIZE OF ITS MARKETING BUDGET, A REPORTED $150 MILLION. 500 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,000 >> THERE WAS A MOMENT LIKE, WOW, I'M WAY OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S A WORK. IT WILL BE VERY PUBLIC! 501 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,741 >> THERE WAS A MOMENT LIKE, WOW, I'M WAY OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S A WORK. IT WILL BE VERY PUBLIC! 502 00:30:09,807 --> 00:30:12,000 [LAUGHS] IT WILL BE AN EXTREMELY PUBLIC ONE. YOU KNOW. 503 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,878 [LAUGHS] IT WILL BE AN EXTREMELY PUBLIC ONE. YOU KNOW. 504 00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:18,000 YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THOSE BIG SWINGS. LITERALLY THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS IT'S TERRIBLE AND 505 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,084 YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THOSE BIG SWINGS. LITERALLY THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS IT'S TERRIBLE AND 506 00:30:20,151 --> 00:30:24,000 NOBODY LIKES IT AND IT BANKRUPTS THE STUDIO. >> IT'LL BE BAD... >> BUT HOW BAD. 507 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,927 NOBODY LIKES IT AND IT BANKRUPTS THE STUDIO. >> IT'LL BE BAD... >> BUT HOW BAD. 508 00:30:28,993 --> 00:30:30,000 AS BAD AS NOT MAKING IT? MAYBE NOT. >> DEFINITELY NOT. "BARBIE" SMASHED BOX OFFICE 509 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:36,000 AS BAD AS NOT MAKING IT? MAYBE NOT. >> DEFINITELY NOT. "BARBIE" SMASHED BOX OFFICE 510 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,570 AS BAD AS NOT MAKING IT? MAYBE NOT. >> DEFINITELY NOT. "BARBIE" SMASHED BOX OFFICE 511 00:30:38,636 --> 00:30:42,000 RECORDS TO BECOME WARNER BROS.'S HIGHEST GROSSING FILM OF ALL TIME. IT WASN'T A SURE BET. 512 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,342 RECORDS TO BECOME WARNER BROS.'S HIGHEST GROSSING FILM OF ALL TIME. IT WASN'T A SURE BET. 513 00:30:44,409 --> 00:30:48,000 GRETA GERWIG, LIKE BARBIE'S PERMIT AND THE ARCHED FEET, PULLED OFF AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE BALANCING ACT. 514 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,016 GRETA GERWIG, LIKE BARBIE'S PERMIT AND THE ARCHED FEET, PULLED OFF AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE BALANCING ACT. 515 00:30:52,083 --> 00:30:54,000 >> I'M ONLY YOUR FAVORITE WOMAN OF ALL TIME, BARBIE! >> GIVING VOICE TO THE ICONIC DOLL AND HER FIERCEST CRITICS. 516 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,000 >> I'M ONLY YOUR FAVORITE WOMAN OF ALL TIME, BARBIE! >> GIVING VOICE TO THE ICONIC DOLL AND HER FIERCEST CRITICS. 517 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,925 >> I'M ONLY YOUR FAVORITE WOMAN OF ALL TIME, BARBIE! >> GIVING VOICE TO THE ICONIC DOLL AND HER FIERCEST CRITICS. 518 00:31:00,992 --> 00:31:06,000 >> YOU BEEN MAKING WOMEN FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES SINCE YOU WERE INVENTED. >> YOU ARE WRITING A MOVIE FOR 519 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,298 >> YOU BEEN MAKING WOMEN FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES SINCE YOU WERE INVENTED. >> YOU ARE WRITING A MOVIE FOR 520 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:12,000 PEOPLE WHO LOVE BARBIE. YOU ARE WRITING A MOVIE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE DON'T LOVE BARBIE. 521 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,071 PEOPLE WHO LOVE BARBIE. YOU ARE WRITING A MOVIE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE DON'T LOVE BARBIE. 522 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:18,000 IT FEELS LIKE A HORNETS NEST. >> THERE WERE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SHOULD WE BE SAYING THIS OR WALKING INTO THIS STUFF? 523 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,779 IT FEELS LIKE A HORNETS NEST. >> THERE WERE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SHOULD WE BE SAYING THIS OR WALKING INTO THIS STUFF? 524 00:31:21,846 --> 00:31:24,000 BUT MY FEELING WAS PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW IT'S A HORNETS NEST. WE CANNOT MAKE SOMETHING THAT 525 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,118 BUT MY FEELING WAS PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW IT'S A HORNETS NEST. WE CANNOT MAKE SOMETHING THAT 526 00:31:27,185 --> 00:31:30,000 PRETENDS TO BE OTHER THAN THAT. >> CAN YOU JUST CONTROL YOUR HAIR? >> IT WAS BARBIE HERSELF, 527 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,523 PRETENDS TO BE OTHER THAN THAT. >> CAN YOU JUST CONTROL YOUR HAIR? >> IT WAS BARBIE HERSELF, 528 00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:35,159 ACTRESS MARGO 529 00:31:37,762 --> 00:31:42,000 BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO MAKE A "BARBIE" MOVIE AND ASKED GERWIG TO MAKE IT. SHE AGREED AND 530 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,000 BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO MAKE A "BARBIE" MOVIE AND ASKED GERWIG TO MAKE IT. SHE AGREED AND 531 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,708 BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO MAKE A "BARBIE" MOVIE AND ASKED GERWIG TO MAKE IT. SHE AGREED AND 532 00:32:08,326 --> 00:32:12,000 YOU TOLD ME THERE IS NO CHARACTER AND NO STORY. >> ISN'T BARBIE A CHARACTER? >> SHE DOESN'T HAVE A 533 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,832 YOU TOLD ME THERE IS NO CHARACTER AND NO STORY. >> ISN'T BARBIE A CHARACTER? >> SHE DOESN'T HAVE A 534 00:32:14,899 --> 00:32:18,000 PERSONALITY. >> WE FOUND OUT WE WERE DOING IT ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET US OUT TO IT -- 535 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,237 PERSONALITY. >> WE FOUND OUT WE WERE DOING IT ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET US OUT TO IT -- 536 00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:24,000 >> DID YOU ACTIVELY TRY TO GET OUT OF IT? >> I MADE SOME CALLS. >> DID IT WORK? 537 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,010 >> DID YOU ACTIVELY TRY TO GET OUT OF IT? >> I MADE SOME CALLS. >> DID IT WORK? 538 00:32:26,077 --> 00:32:30,000 >> GRETA WAS PERSISTENT AND GRETA SAW SOMETHING. >> WHAT WAS IT YOU SAW? BARBIE HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 539 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,752 >> GRETA WAS PERSISTENT AND GRETA SAW SOMETHING. >> WHAT WAS IT YOU SAW? BARBIE HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 540 00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:36,000 1959 AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHO SHE IS AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION AND HAS RUN THE GAMUT OF AHEAD OF TIME, BEHIND TIME. 541 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,000 1959 AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHO SHE IS AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION AND HAS RUN THE GAMUT OF AHEAD OF TIME, BEHIND TIME. 542 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,126 1959 AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHO SHE IS AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION AND HAS RUN THE GAMUT OF AHEAD OF TIME, BEHIND TIME. 543 00:32:42,193 --> 00:32:48,000 SHE'S A HERO, SHE'S A VILLAIN. >> TOGETHER THEY CREATED THEIR VERSION OF "BARBIELAND," A FEMINIST UTOPIA WHERE EVERYONE 544 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,171 SHE'S A HERO, SHE'S A VILLAIN. >> TOGETHER THEY CREATED THEIR VERSION OF "BARBIELAND," A FEMINIST UTOPIA WHERE EVERYONE 545 00:32:53,237 --> 00:32:54,000 IS BARBIE... , AND EVERY KEN IS JUST A KEN. BUT THE NEXT ESSENTIAL CRISIS IN BARBIE LAND SENDS BARBIE AND KEN 546 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,000 IS BARBIE... , AND EVERY KEN IS JUST A KEN. BUT THE NEXT ESSENTIAL CRISIS IN BARBIE LAND SENDS BARBIE AND KEN 547 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,000 IS BARBIE... , AND EVERY KEN IS JUST A KEN. BUT THE NEXT ESSENTIAL CRISIS IN BARBIE LAND SENDS BARBIE AND KEN 548 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,688 IS BARBIE... , AND EVERY KEN IS JUST A KEN. BUT THE NEXT ESSENTIAL CRISIS IN BARBIE LAND SENDS BARBIE AND KEN 549 00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,000 INTO THE REAL WORLD. >> I CAN ONLY FEEL LIKE I CAN DESCRIBE TO BE ADMIRED BUT NOT ALL GOLD. 550 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:18,000 INTO THE REAL WORLD. >> I CAN ONLY FEEL LIKE I CAN DESCRIBE TO BE ADMIRED BUT NOT ALL GOLD. 551 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,963 INTO THE REAL WORLD. >> I CAN ONLY FEEL LIKE I CAN DESCRIBE TO BE ADMIRED BUT NOT ALL GOLD. 552 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:22,166 AND THERE IS NO UNDERTONE OF VIOLINS PAID >> MINE VERY MUCH HAS 553 00:33:22,233 --> 00:33:24,000 AN UNDERTONE OF VIOLENCE. DISCOVERS PATRIARCHY, AND LIKES IT. >> PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT AND SAID 554 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,000 AN UNDERTONE OF VIOLENCE. DISCOVERS PATRIARCHY, AND LIKES IT. >> PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT AND SAID 555 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,244 AN UNDERTONE OF VIOLENCE. DISCOVERS PATRIARCHY, AND LIKES IT. >> PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT AND SAID 556 00:33:33,311 --> 00:33:36,000 THAT THIS MOVIE IS ANTIMAN. >> THE MOVIE IS MEANT TO BE A BIGHEARTED THING SINCE IT'S POKING FUN AT EVERYONE. 557 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,000 THAT THIS MOVIE IS ANTIMAN. >> THE MOVIE IS MEANT TO BE A BIGHEARTED THING SINCE IT'S POKING FUN AT EVERYONE. 558 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,287 THAT THIS MOVIE IS ANTIMAN. >> THE MOVIE IS MEANT TO BE A BIGHEARTED THING SINCE IT'S POKING FUN AT EVERYONE. 559 00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:48,000 BUT THIS IS... I PLANNED AT THIS IN MY HEAD. I'LL JUST SAY IT. I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS IS NOT MAN 560 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,495 BUT THIS IS... I PLANNED AT THIS IN MY HEAD. I'LL JUST SAY IT. I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS IS NOT MAN 561 00:33:50,561 --> 00:33:54,000 HATING ANYMORE THAN ARISTOPHANE ARISTOPHANES' LYSISTRATA WAS MAN HATING. IT'S NOT SICK BURN WHEN YOU PUT 562 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:00,000 HATING ANYMORE THAN ARISTOPHANE ARISTOPHANES' LYSISTRATA WAS MAN HATING. IT'S NOT SICK BURN WHEN YOU PUT 563 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,041 HATING ANYMORE THAN ARISTOPHANE ARISTOPHANES' LYSISTRATA WAS MAN HATING. IT'S NOT SICK BURN WHEN YOU PUT 564 00:34:04,108 --> 00:34:06,000 IT OUT LIKE THAT. >> WE NOTICED HER MIND PERCOLATES WITH LITERARY REFERENCES BID BOND 565 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,015 IT OUT LIKE THAT. >> WE NOTICED HER MIND PERCOLATES WITH LITERARY REFERENCES BID BOND 566 00:34:11,082 --> 00:34:12,000 BAUMBACH'STAKE... >> I THOUGHT MEN COULD TAKE IT. >> IT FEELS SILLY TO SAY OUT LOUD, I WHEN HE FAR, 567 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,000 BAUMBACH'STAKE... >> I THOUGHT MEN COULD TAKE IT. >> IT FEELS SILLY TO SAY OUT LOUD, I WHEN HE FAR, 568 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,594 BAUMBACH'STAKE... >> I THOUGHT MEN COULD TAKE IT. >> IT FEELS SILLY TO SAY OUT LOUD, I WHEN HE FAR, 569 00:34:23,661 --> 00:34:24,000 WE LOVE KEN. WE TAKE KEN'S POSITION SERIOUSLY. NO IDENTITY OUTSIDE OF HER. 570 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,000 WE LOVE KEN. WE TAKE KEN'S POSITION SERIOUSLY. NO IDENTITY OUTSIDE OF HER. 571 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,135 WE LOVE KEN. WE TAKE KEN'S POSITION SERIOUSLY. NO IDENTITY OUTSIDE OF HER. 572 00:34:31,202 --> 00:34:35,373 >> GERWIG AND BAUMBACH LIVE IN NEW YORK AND WROTE THE SCREENPLAY AT HOME DURING THE PANDEMIC. 573 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,000 >> WHERE YOU ENTERTAIN EACH OTHER? >> IT KIND OF KEPT US SANE. >> FOR WHOM THE INSANITY WENT 574 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:42,000 >> WHERE YOU ENTERTAIN EACH OTHER? >> IT KIND OF KEPT US SANE. >> FOR WHOM THE INSANITY WENT 575 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,017 >> WHERE YOU ENTERTAIN EACH OTHER? >> IT KIND OF KEPT US SANE. >> FOR WHOM THE INSANITY WENT 576 00:34:46,083 --> 00:34:48,000 INTO THE MOVIE. THEY TOLD US THE FINAL CUT WHICH AT TIMES LOOKS LIKE A COVID FEVER DREAM IS VERY CLOSE TO THE 577 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,622 INTO THE MOVIE. THEY TOLD US THE FINAL CUT WHICH AT TIMES LOOKS LIKE A COVID FEVER DREAM IS VERY CLOSE TO THE 578 00:34:51,689 --> 00:34:54,000 SCRIPT THEY SUBMITTED TO MATTEL. THE TOY MAKER, THEY SAY, WAS SURPRISINGLY HANDS-OFF, BUT HAD NOTES. 579 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,763 SCRIPT THEY SUBMITTED TO MATTEL. THE TOY MAKER, THEY SAY, WAS SURPRISINGLY HANDS-OFF, BUT HAD NOTES. 580 00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:00,000 >> ONE OF THE NOTES WAS ON PAGE 112, DOES A MATTEL EXECUTIVE HAVE TO BE SHOT? AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS 581 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000 >> ONE OF THE NOTES WAS ON PAGE 112, DOES A MATTEL EXECUTIVE HAVE TO BE SHOT? AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS 582 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,006 >> ONE OF THE NOTES WAS ON PAGE 112, DOES A MATTEL EXECUTIVE HAVE TO BE SHOT? AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS 583 00:35:09,073 --> 00:35:12,000 EXCITING. WE KNEW WE WERE ONTO SOMETHING. >> WE FELT LIKE WE MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR BROKE. 584 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,345 EXCITING. WE KNEW WE WERE ONTO SOMETHING. >> WE FELT LIKE WE MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR BROKE. 585 00:35:14,412 --> 00:35:18,000 THEY ARE ALREADY NOT MAKING MOVIES. >> YOU THOUGHT IT MIGHT NOT EVER GET MADE? 586 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,549 THEY ARE ALREADY NOT MAKING MOVIES. >> YOU THOUGHT IT MIGHT NOT EVER GET MADE? 587 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:24,000 >> WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT NOT EVER GET MADE. >> SHE SAYS SHE NEVER DREAMED TO BE THE ONE ENDING UP DIRECTING 588 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,989 >> WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT NOT EVER GET MADE. >> SHE SAYS SHE NEVER DREAMED TO BE THE ONE ENDING UP DIRECTING 589 00:35:25,056 --> 00:35:30,000 IT. GRETA GERWIG GREW UP IN SACRAMENTO AND FELL IN LOVE WITH COMMUNITY THEATER IN GRADE 590 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,695 IT. GRETA GERWIG GREW UP IN SACRAMENTO AND FELL IN LOVE WITH COMMUNITY THEATER IN GRADE 591 00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:36,000 SCHOOL. TOOK UP DANCING AND THEN ACTING. >> DID YOU KNOW YOU WOULD END UP IN NEW YORK? 592 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,834 SCHOOL. TOOK UP DANCING AND THEN ACTING. >> DID YOU KNOW YOU WOULD END UP IN NEW YORK? 593 00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:42,000 >> I KNEW I WANTED TO BE IN NEW YORK BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WOULD'VE THOUGHT EXTREMELY FAR 594 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,308 >> I KNEW I WANTED TO BE IN NEW YORK BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WOULD'VE THOUGHT EXTREMELY FAR 595 00:35:44,375 --> 00:35:48,000 AWAY AND EXPENSIVE. >> SHE ATTENDED BARNARD COLLEGE, PERFORMED IN SCHOOL PRODUCTIONS, AND FELL IN WITH A GROUP OF 596 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,382 AWAY AND EXPENSIVE. >> SHE ATTENDED BARNARD COLLEGE, PERFORMED IN SCHOOL PRODUCTIONS, AND FELL IN WITH A GROUP OF 597 00:35:51,449 --> 00:35:54,000 LOW-BUDGET FILMMAKERS BEFORE SETTING SITES OF A WIDER AUDIENCE. >> IT WAS THE HEYDAY OF JUST A 598 00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:00,000 LOW-BUDGET FILMMAKERS BEFORE SETTING SITES OF A WIDER AUDIENCE. >> IT WAS THE HEYDAY OF JUST A 599 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,227 LOW-BUDGET FILMMAKERS BEFORE SETTING SITES OF A WIDER AUDIENCE. >> IT WAS THE HEYDAY OF JUST A 600 00:36:03,294 --> 00:36:06,000 CERTAIN LOOK AT NETWORK TELEVISION WHICH I WAS NEVER GOOD AT DOING. I DO NOT KNOW WHY BUT I WAS 601 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,233 CERTAIN LOOK AT NETWORK TELEVISION WHICH I WAS NEVER GOOD AT DOING. I DO NOT KNOW WHY BUT I WAS 602 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,000 WEARING OVERALLS. I REMEMBER IT WAS A BOLD CHOICE. SHE LOOKED UP AND GOES, YOU MUST BE VERY TALENTED. 603 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,441 WEARING OVERALLS. I REMEMBER IT WAS A BOLD CHOICE. SHE LOOKED UP AND GOES, YOU MUST BE VERY TALENTED. 604 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:18,000 >> SHE LANDED ROLES IN MORE THAN A DOZEN MOVIES. SOME SHE HELPED WRITE. AND THEN GRETA GERWIG MADE THE 605 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,781 >> SHE LANDED ROLES IN MORE THAN A DOZEN MOVIES. SOME SHE HELPED WRITE. AND THEN GRETA GERWIG MADE THE 606 00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:24,000 BIGGEST LEAP OF HER CAREER FROM INDIE DARLING TO BREAK OUT DIRECTOR WITH "LADYBIRD." >> THAT WAS GREAT. 607 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,000 BIGGEST LEAP OF HER CAREER FROM INDIE DARLING TO BREAK OUT DIRECTOR WITH "LADYBIRD." >> THAT WAS GREAT. 608 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,424 BIGGEST LEAP OF HER CAREER FROM INDIE DARLING TO BREAK OUT DIRECTOR WITH "LADYBIRD." >> THAT WAS GREAT. 609 00:36:33,491 --> 00:36:36,000 LET'S PARTY. >> GERWIG WROTE THE COMING-OF-AGE STORY ABOUT THE COMP LOCATED RELATIONSHIP 610 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,695 LET'S PARTY. >> GERWIG WROTE THE COMING-OF-AGE STORY ABOUT THE COMP LOCATED RELATIONSHIP 611 00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:42,000 BETWEEN A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER. >> YOU SHOULD JUST GO TO CITY COLLEGE, AND THEN TO JAIL, AND BACK TO CITY COLLEGE AND MAYBE 612 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,802 BETWEEN A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER. >> YOU SHOULD JUST GO TO CITY COLLEGE, AND THEN TO JAIL, AND BACK TO CITY COLLEGE AND MAYBE 613 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:48,000 YOU'LL LEARN TO PULL YOURSELF UP AND NOT EXPECT EVERYBODY TO -- >> THE SCENE WHERE SHE JUMPS OUT OF THE CAR... 614 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,000 YOU'LL LEARN TO PULL YOURSELF UP AND NOT EXPECT EVERYBODY TO -- >> THE SCENE WHERE SHE JUMPS OUT OF THE CAR... 615 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,111 YOU'LL LEARN TO PULL YOURSELF UP AND NOT EXPECT EVERYBODY TO -- >> THE SCENE WHERE SHE JUMPS OUT OF THE CAR... 616 00:36:54,178 --> 00:36:59,850 WHAT WAS YOUR DIRECTION? >> I WANT YOU WITHOUT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT JUST HURL YOURSELF OUT OF THIS CAR. 617 00:36:59,917 --> 00:37:00,000 I WANTED TO BE ALMOST LIKE YOU'VE ACTED BEFORE YOU THOUGHT THROUGH COMPLETELY WHAT THE RESULT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE. 618 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,000 I WANTED TO BE ALMOST LIKE YOU'VE ACTED BEFORE YOU THOUGHT THROUGH COMPLETELY WHAT THE RESULT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE. 619 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,891 I WANTED TO BE ALMOST LIKE YOU'VE ACTED BEFORE YOU THOUGHT THROUGH COMPLETELY WHAT THE RESULT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE. 620 00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:12,000 >> GERWIG'S FEARLESS APPROACH EARNED THE THEN 34-YEAR-OLD TWO OSCAR NOMINATIONS. TWO YEARS LATER SHE GOT A THIRD 621 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,334 >> GERWIG'S FEARLESS APPROACH EARNED THE THEN 34-YEAR-OLD TWO OSCAR NOMINATIONS. TWO YEARS LATER SHE GOT A THIRD 622 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,000 NOMINATION FOR HER 2019 ADAPTATION OF "LITTLE WOMEN." >> I'M SO SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT LOVE IS JUST ALL A WOMAN IS 623 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:24,000 NOMINATION FOR HER 2019 ADAPTATION OF "LITTLE WOMEN." >> I'M SO SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT LOVE IS JUST ALL A WOMAN IS 624 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,942 NOMINATION FOR HER 2019 ADAPTATION OF "LITTLE WOMEN." >> I'M SO SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT LOVE IS JUST ALL A WOMAN IS 625 00:37:25,009 --> 00:37:30,000 FIT FOR. I'M SO SICK OF IT. >> THEN CAME "BARBIE" WITH A BUDGET MORE THAN TEN TIMES THAT 626 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,782 FIT FOR. I'M SO SICK OF IT. >> THEN CAME "BARBIE" WITH A BUDGET MORE THAN TEN TIMES THAT 627 00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:36,000 OF "LADYBIRD." LAST FALL AT A THEATER IN NEW YORK, GERWIG SHOWED US SOME OF THE OLD MUSICALS THAT 628 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,724 OF "LADYBIRD." LAST FALL AT A THEATER IN NEW YORK, GERWIG SHOWED US SOME OF THE OLD MUSICALS THAT 629 00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:42,000 INSPIRED HER. INCLUDING 1957'S "FUNNY FACE." >> LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE STANDING. 630 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,000 INSPIRED HER. INCLUDING 1957'S "FUNNY FACE." >> LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE STANDING. 631 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,034 INSPIRED HER. INCLUDING 1957'S "FUNNY FACE." >> LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE STANDING. 632 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:54,000 THESE AREN'T HUMANS. THESE ARE DANCERS BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED ALL THE BARBIES AND KENS TO LOOK LIKE. 633 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,000 THESE AREN'T HUMANS. THESE ARE DANCERS BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED ALL THE BARBIES AND KENS TO LOOK LIKE. 634 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,013 THESE AREN'T HUMANS. THESE ARE DANCERS BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED ALL THE BARBIES AND KENS TO LOOK LIKE. 635 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:06,000 >> COMPLETE WITH A PAINTED SKY AND BACKDROP TO GIVE THE MOVIE AID TO THE EFFECT. >> BASICALLY THE FOREGROUND, 636 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,120 >> COMPLETE WITH A PAINTED SKY AND BACKDROP TO GIVE THE MOVIE AID TO THE EFFECT. >> BASICALLY THE FOREGROUND, 637 00:38:09,186 --> 00:38:12,000 THAT'S ON A TREADMILL TO CREATE MOVEMENT. IN THE LINES ON THE ROAD ARE BEING PULLED BY A PERSON BEHIND 638 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,294 THAT'S ON A TREADMILL TO CREATE MOVEMENT. IN THE LINES ON THE ROAD ARE BEING PULLED BY A PERSON BEHIND 639 00:38:17,361 --> 00:38:18,000 IT. IT'S ABOUT SHOWING THE WORK. I WANTED TO SEE THAT IT WAS AUTHENTICALLY ARTIFICIAL, REALLY 640 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,300 IT. IT'S ABOUT SHOWING THE WORK. I WANTED TO SEE THAT IT WAS AUTHENTICALLY ARTIFICIAL, REALLY 641 00:38:23,367 --> 00:38:24,000 FAKE. IT'S ABOUT KIDS. IT'S ABOUT PLAYING WITH TOYS, THE LANGUAGE OF PLAYING WITH IT. 642 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:30,000 FAKE. IT'S ABOUT KIDS. IT'S ABOUT PLAYING WITH TOYS, THE LANGUAGE OF PLAYING WITH IT. 643 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,911 FAKE. IT'S ABOUT KIDS. IT'S ABOUT PLAYING WITH TOYS, THE LANGUAGE OF PLAYING WITH IT. 644 00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:36,000 WE SHOT THIS WHOLE THING IN ONE DAY. >> NO... >> YOU GOT ONE DAY TO GET IT. 645 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,751 WE SHOT THIS WHOLE THING IN ONE DAY. >> NO... >> YOU GOT ONE DAY TO GET IT. 646 00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:42,000 IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS, YOU'LL GET ONE DAY. SEE THE MAN BEHIND THE TEN AND FIGHT FOR ME... 647 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,000 IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS, YOU'LL GET ONE DAY. SEE THE MAN BEHIND THE TEN AND FIGHT FOR ME... 648 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,093 IF YOU REALLY WANT THIS, YOU'LL GET ONE DAY. SEE THE MAN BEHIND THE TEN AND FIGHT FOR ME... 649 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,363 >> AS YOU SIT HERE IN THE THEATER TODAY, IT'S STILL AMAZING TO YOU? >> YEAH. 650 00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:54,000 I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE WHOLE MOVIE, WHEN I WATCH IT, I -- I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE ANYBODY LET ME DO THIS. 651 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,869 I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE WHOLE MOVIE, WHEN I WATCH IT, I -- I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE ANYBODY LET ME DO THIS. 652 00:38:58,936 --> 00:39:00,000 >> I'M JUST HAVING SOME BREWSKI BEERS IN MY MOJO DOJO CASA HOUSE. >> GERWIG SAYS THEY WROTE THE 653 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,008 >> I'M JUST HAVING SOME BREWSKI BEERS IN MY MOJO DOJO CASA HOUSE. >> GERWIG SAYS THEY WROTE THE 654 00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:06,000 ROLE OF KEN SPECIFICALLY FOR RYAN GOSLING. THEY WROTE THE ROLE OF KEN SPECIFICALLY FOR RYAN GOSLING. 655 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,847 ROLE OF KEN SPECIFICALLY FOR RYAN GOSLING. THEY WROTE THE ROLE OF KEN SPECIFICALLY FOR RYAN GOSLING. 656 00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:12,000 >> DID YOU KNOW HIM? >> NO. YOU WROTE WE JUST PUT HIS WHOLE NAME IN 657 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,787 >> DID YOU KNOW HIM? >> NO. YOU WROTE WE JUST PUT HIS WHOLE NAME IN 658 00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:18,000 THE WHOLE TIME. >> IT WAS A LOT TO TYPE ALL THE TIME. >> DID HE INSTANTLY SAY, LIKE, 659 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,059 THE WHOLE TIME. >> IT WAS A LOT TO TYPE ALL THE TIME. >> DID HE INSTANTLY SAY, LIKE, 660 00:39:22,126 --> 00:39:24,000 "YES, I'M KEN"? >> I BASICALLY WAS LIKE, "LISTEN, WE'VE SEEN THE FUTURE. YOU'RE IN IT, AND YOU'RE KEN." 661 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,764 "YES, I'M KEN"? >> I BASICALLY WAS LIKE, "LISTEN, WE'VE SEEN THE FUTURE. YOU'RE IN IT, AND YOU'RE KEN." 662 00:39:26,831 --> 00:39:30,000 >> HANG AROUND WITH GRETA GERWIG LONG ENOUGH...AND A PATTERN EMERGES. >> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HOW 663 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,469 >> HANG AROUND WITH GRETA GERWIG LONG ENOUGH...AND A PATTERN EMERGES. >> NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HOW 664 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:35,339 I GET PEOPLE TO DO THINGS. 665 00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:36,000 >> SHE HAS A WAY OF COAXING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONES. AT A DANCE STUDIO IN MIDTOWN 666 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,000 >> SHE HAS A WAY OF COAXING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONES. AT A DANCE STUDIO IN MIDTOWN 667 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,279 >> SHE HAS A WAY OF COAXING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONES. AT A DANCE STUDIO IN MIDTOWN 668 00:39:42,346 --> 00:39:48,000 MANHATTAN... >> WHY DON'T YOU JUST COME TRY >> GERWIG DIRECTED ME TO JOIN HER AS SHE GOT BACK INTO THE 669 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,219 MANHATTAN... >> WHY DON'T YOU JUST COME TRY >> GERWIG DIRECTED ME TO JOIN HER AS SHE GOT BACK INTO THE 670 00:39:48,285 --> 00:39:54,000 SWING OF ONE OF HER FIRST LOVES, TAPDANCING. >> THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROUSTIAN MOMENT. 671 00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,000 SWING OF ONE OF HER FIRST LOVES, TAPDANCING. >> THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROUSTIAN MOMENT. 672 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,097 SWING OF ONE OF HER FIRST LOVES, TAPDANCING. >> THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROUSTIAN MOMENT. 673 00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:06,000 >> A PROUSTIAN MOMENT, DURING SOMETHING CALLED A PARADIDDLE. THE ONLY THING TO DO WAS STEP ASIDE. 674 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,504 >> A PROUSTIAN MOMENT, DURING SOMETHING CALLED A PARADIDDLE. THE ONLY THING TO DO WAS STEP ASIDE. 675 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:10,007 >> ONE MORE TIME, ONE MORE TIME, WHY IS THE TIMING, MY TIMING OFF? YOU WANT TO DO IT AGAIN? 676 00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:12,000 WE'LL JUST DO IT AGAIN. >> YOU'RE A BIT OF A PERFECTIONIST? >> I GUESS SO, YES. 677 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,545 WE'LL JUST DO IT AGAIN. >> YOU'RE A BIT OF A PERFECTIONIST? >> I GUESS SO, YES. 678 00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:18,000 >> BUT YOU'RE, LIKE, ANOTHER TAKE, ANOTHER TAKE, ANOTHER TAKE. >> YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE, YEAH. 679 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,284 >> BUT YOU'RE, LIKE, ANOTHER TAKE, ANOTHER TAKE, ANOTHER TAKE. >> YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE, YEAH. 680 00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:24,000 >> I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH. >> ON THE SET OF BARBIE, GERWIG DIRECTED NEARLY 50 TAKES OF THIS SCENE WITH AMERICA 681 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,259 >> I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH. >> ON THE SET OF BARBIE, GERWIG DIRECTED NEARLY 50 TAKES OF THIS SCENE WITH AMERICA 682 00:40:28,325 --> 00:40:30,000 FERRERA, WHO PLAYS A MATTEL ASSISTANT AND MOTHER. >> IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A WOMAN. 683 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,665 FERRERA, WHO PLAYS A MATTEL ASSISTANT AND MOTHER. >> IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A WOMAN. 684 00:40:34,732 --> 00:40:36,000 >> SOUL-BARING MONOLOGUES, PENNED BY GERWIG, AREA A STAPLE OF HER FILMS. THE WRITER'S VERSION OF A 685 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,000 >> SOUL-BARING MONOLOGUES, PENNED BY GERWIG, AREA A STAPLE OF HER FILMS. THE WRITER'S VERSION OF A 686 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,039 >> SOUL-BARING MONOLOGUES, PENNED BY GERWIG, AREA A STAPLE OF HER FILMS. THE WRITER'S VERSION OF A 687 00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:46,544 GUITAR SOLO. >> YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THE SISTERHOOD, BUT ALWAYS STAND OUT AND ALWAYS BE 688 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:48,000 GRATEFUL, BUT NEVER FORGET THAT THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED SO FIND A WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BUT ALSO ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL. 689 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:54,000 GRATEFUL, BUT NEVER FORGET THAT THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED SO FIND A WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BUT ALSO ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL. 690 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,151 GRATEFUL, BUT NEVER FORGET THAT THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED SO FIND A WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BUT ALSO ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL. 691 00:40:54,218 --> 00:40:59,824 >> GRETA WILL GO INTO SOME MONOLOGUE MODE, IT'S KIND OF ALMOST PHYSICAL. LIKE, SHE GOES IN AND SHE JUST, 692 00:40:59,890 --> 00:41:00,000 LIKE -- AND KIND OF, LIKE, DOING A THING AND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE JOE COCKER OR SOMETHING. 693 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:06,000 LIKE -- AND KIND OF, LIKE, DOING A THING AND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE JOE COCKER OR SOMETHING. 694 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,664 LIKE -- AND KIND OF, LIKE, DOING A THING AND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE JOE COCKER OR SOMETHING. 695 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:10,201 IT'S LIKE -- AND THEN SHE HANDS IT OVER. AND -- AND IT'S GREAT. >> NEXT, GERWIG IS TAKING ON A 696 00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:12,000 BIG FRANCHISE. SHE'S DIRECTING AND WRITING TWO CHRONICLES OF NARNIA MOVIES. SHE CONFESSED PUTTING HER STAMP 697 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,774 BIG FRANCHISE. SHE'S DIRECTING AND WRITING TWO CHRONICLES OF NARNIA MOVIES. SHE CONFESSED PUTTING HER STAMP 698 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:18,000 ON THE BELOVED C.S. LEWIS CLASSICS IS GIVING HER NIGHTMARES. >> YEAH, WHENEVER I'M STUCK, I 699 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,046 ON THE BELOVED C.S. LEWIS CLASSICS IS GIVING HER NIGHTMARES. >> YEAH, WHENEVER I'M STUCK, I 700 00:41:22,112 --> 00:41:24,000 GO FOR WALKS -- >> DO YOU GET -- >> -- WHICH IS MOST OF THE TIME >> DO YOU GET STUCK? 701 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,816 GO FOR WALKS -- >> DO YOU GET -- >> -- WHICH IS MOST OF THE TIME >> DO YOU GET STUCK? 702 00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:28,986 >> THAT'S ALL I'VE BEEN -- >> I FEEL LIKE IT'S FLOWING OUT OF YOU -- >> THAT'S ALL I DO. 703 00:41:29,053 --> 00:41:30,000 I ONLY GET STUCK. THAT'S ALL I RE -- THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS GOING ON WALKS. >> WHATEVER SHE'S DOING, IT'S 704 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,791 I ONLY GET STUCK. THAT'S ALL I RE -- THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS GOING ON WALKS. >> WHATEVER SHE'S DOING, IT'S 705 00:41:33,858 --> 00:41:36,000 PAYING OFF. GRETA GERWIG IS THE FIRST WOMAN TO SOLO-DIRECT A BILLION-DOLLAR MOVIE...AN IDEA THAT ONCE 706 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,698 PAYING OFF. GRETA GERWIG IS THE FIRST WOMAN TO SOLO-DIRECT A BILLION-DOLLAR MOVIE...AN IDEA THAT ONCE 707 00:41:40,764 --> 00:41:42,000 SEEMED AS FAR-FETCHED AS BARBIE IN BIRKENSTOCKS. 708 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,000 SEEMED AS FAR-FETCHED AS BARBIE IN BIRKENSTOCKS. 709 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,140 SEEMED AS FAR-FETCHED AS BARBIE IN BIRKENSTOCKS. 710 00:41:52,877 --> 00:41:54,000 >> WILL THERE BE A KEN MOVIE? >> WE HAD WAY TOO MUCH MATERIAL FOR KEN. WE WOULD WRITE AND WRITE AND 711 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,249 >> WILL THERE BE A KEN MOVIE? >> WE HAD WAY TOO MUCH MATERIAL FOR KEN. WE WOULD WRITE AND WRITE AND 712 00:41:58,315 --> 00:42:00,000 WRITE. >> DON'T GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE WE MIGHT DO -- >> AT 60MINU 713 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,000 WRITE. >> DON'T GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE WE MIGHT DO -- >> AT 60MINU 714 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,125 WRITE. >> DON'T GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE WE MIGHT DO -- >> AT 60MINU 715 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:12,000 >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MINUTES." 716 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,832 >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MINUTES." 717 00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:26,777 ♪ ♪ 718 00:42:28,178 --> 00:42:29,480 >> WHEN