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It's an incredible feat--
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Pearl Harbor's Red Hill
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seven miles of tunnels
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built to hold 250
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Oh, my gosh.
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And to give you a reference
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not the base, but
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fit in here with enough room.
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Tonight, you'll
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at this once secret site
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thousands of military families.
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What is the scope of the
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Unrecognizable in modern times.
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We watched a young deminer
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could detonate a mine nearby.
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Russia has sown Ukraine
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She threaded the grass, feeling
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The day before, another
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Welcome to the 2023
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In Indian relay, as many as
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are brought to a start
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The horses are bareback.
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No saddles or stirrups.
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Their riders wear
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At the sound of a
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and tear down the track.
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These horses are able to run
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But the hard part
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I'm Leslie Stahl.
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I'm Bill Whitaker.
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I'm Anderson Cooper.
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I'm Sharyn Alfonsi.
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I'm Jon Wertheim.
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I'm Cecilia Vega.
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I'm Scott Pelley.
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Those stories tonight
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The US military takes pride
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That's why military
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told us they feel so betrayed.
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Two years ago, there
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close to the drinking water
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base in Hawaii.
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As we first reported in
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assured thousands
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that the tap water was safe.
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But nearly two weeks
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parents learned the truth.
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The water they drank or
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contained jet fuel.
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Tonight, you'll hear from
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say the jet fuel tainted
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But first, we'll go to where the
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began.
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From the air, the historic
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Eight miles from Honolulu,
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battle gray ships and
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killed by Japan's
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What you can't see is the
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that provided fuel for the
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for 80 years.
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It doesn't look like
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But wait till you get inside.
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Vice Admiral John Wade led us
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storage facility.
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Seven miles of tunnels
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built to hold 250
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So this is one of the tanks.
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Oh, my gosh.
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That black hole is a
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so deep, it's hard to see
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To just show you how
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this tank holds 12.5
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not the base, but
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fit in here with enough room.
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And this is just one of
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This is the Arizona,
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When the Japanese
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construction was already
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the Navy's fuel reserves
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The decision was made to
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to build a bulk storage fuel
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in secrecy.
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And how long did
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There's a little less
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At its peak, there are about
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All right, watch your head.
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We're going to go this way.
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But this testament
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became a monumental
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That's jet fuel spraying
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The video was recorded
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Hill on November 20 of 2021.
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The fuel, 20,000 gallons of it,
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The weight caused
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This trolley hit it.
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And jet fuel spewed for 21 hours
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drinking water for 93,000 people
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Harbour.
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According to Navy investigators,
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didn't have the right
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They also assumed there was no
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They were wrong.
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At least 5,000 gallons of jet
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floor and into the
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The next day, the Navy issued a
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and told the 8,400 families
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the water remains safe to drink,
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tested the water yet.
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A week later, residents
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When did you get the
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something wrong with the water?
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My husband came into the
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and said, gosh, the water smells
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The water smells weird.
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Brittany Traeger lived on base,
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Hill, with her
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who is a Navy chief
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Traeger says she began to feel
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I had a cough.
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My tonsils were very swollen.
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I remember a very
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where I was walking to the car.
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And I had vertigo so bad that
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The smell was that overwhelming?
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Uh-huh.
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In an email to residents,
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the commanding
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reassured residents, "there
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that the water is not safe.
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My staff and I are
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Did you stop using water?
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Did you stop taking baths?
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So I did.
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My daughter did.
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Just because you had a bad
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told you to.
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Correct.
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They gave us an
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could send an email to if we
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So I emailed those people who
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that I should call.
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And I called that
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And it was just busy.
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They were overwhelmed and
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10 days after the spill, there
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from six neighborhoods across
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odor coming from kitchen
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but the Navy said its initial
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It defied logic.
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Even though there
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though our water
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and even though there was sheen
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the tests are coming
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After 12 days and
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assuring residents the water
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the Navy reversed course.
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more comprehensive tests
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had detected jet
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Three weeks after the spill,
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of Health revealed jet
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higher than what the
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Richelle Dietz lives on base
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petty officer, and
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Jet fuel is not something
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think could happen
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How were people
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I was so sick to my
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that I actually threw
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Because my kids had
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Within a month, the Navy set
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Some complained of stomach
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and coughing.
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The military moved more than
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Small studies of
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suggest jet fuel
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to neurological and
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But the long-term impact
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is unknown because it's so
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Richelle Dietz told us, days
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tonsils became inflamed.
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I can hear people saying
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kids get that stuff.
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How do you know it's related?
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Because they never had it
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It wasn't an issue.
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It's unclear how many got sick.
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But of 2,000 people who
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by the Centers for Disease
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more than 850
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The water system was
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and bottled water brought in.
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Brittany Traeger said
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suffers respiratory
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require hour long treatments
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that includes a nebulizer
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to clear her lungs.
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Tell me about your
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13 days after the
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smelled like jet fuel, my
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with a cough.
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Three months passed before
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was deemed safe again.
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The Navy's own investigation
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"cascading failures" and
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supervision, and ineffective
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unacceptably short
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For the last 10
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raised concerns about the threat
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The primary water supply
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is hundred feet below
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In March of 2022, the
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ordered Red Hill
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Vice Admiral John
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to get the 104 million gallons
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and move it safely to
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We've got to defuel that's
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There's ongoing and
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long-term environmental
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to restore the aquifer, the
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for those that
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Your view now the thing that
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is a threat.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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In six months,
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successfully removed
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But it took two years before the
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to 14 officers involved
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including five admirals.
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Was anyone fired
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At the time that the
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we had officers that
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And so they had already
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Meredith Berger is an assistant
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We met her at the
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She told us the Navy
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We're talking about 20,000
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90,000 people had their
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It looks like people
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And no one was fired.
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How is that accountability?
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It's accountability within the
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And we have heard
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and that maybe it
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2,000 military families agree
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and are suing the government.
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The defuel and Deitzs
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alleging they were harmed
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Are you angry that it
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angry at what happened after?
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It's a little bit of
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this feeling of betrayal.
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What do you mean, betrayal?
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So my husband has been
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We have moved our family
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We gave so much of
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for them to ignore warnings.
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Navy leadership has
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but has not said that the
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of the ongoing illnesses.
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The Navy did set
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to collect data and
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believes they have health issues
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What happens in 5,
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Will those services still be
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that we're collecting
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to inform future
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the requirements are for
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That doesn't sound like a
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part of things.
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And so I don't want to speak
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any authority or a decision.
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So we followed up with
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which told us it's reviewing
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care for military families,
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children.
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Two years after the
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have reported water
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The Navy is conducting
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and says it is confident there
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Richelle Dietz is still
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She, and Brittany Traeger, along
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are awaiting a judge's
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What is the remedy
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In our family, it's restoring
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That's a big thing to say.
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There's a body of
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They contaminated our water.
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They lied to us.
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They did not protect us.
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And they did not intervene.
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And accountability looks like
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my family, and the
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And that will restore
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Does Red Hill still pose
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This facility was a
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At 60minutesovertime.com.
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Sponsored by Nurtec ODT.
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No matter how Russia's
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Dr. Yuri Kuznetsov will be
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madness for years.
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As we first reported
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Kuznetsov is a Ukrainian
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who stayed by his patients
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Now, heroism is a
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His city was liberated,
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sees victims every
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who step on one of the
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across about one
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There's a massive effort
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but that will take a
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Until then, there
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with healing hands and eyes
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Half his life, he's
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and here in its basement,
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All he'd become in 52 years was
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We didn't imagine,
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that Russia would
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Dr. Kuznetsov told us.
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When you're sitting
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and a plane is
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was impossible to predict
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to see another day.
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In 2022, the basement became
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That's him dressed in white.
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The wounded were endless.
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A close friend's wife,
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And this man who
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Did you save more
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We saved significantly
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Many of your colleagues
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I wonder why you stayed.
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When you have
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the only doctor, the only
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I didn't understand
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He could not leave Izium.
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His city of 40,000 was
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The Russians laid
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from Ukraine's counterattack.
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Putin's unprovoked war on an
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of Izium and killed 1,000,
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cleaved in two and this school,
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The people of Izium clothed
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and yet they are
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Demining teams are still
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Izium, 20 miles
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one of the worst areas for
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Throughout Ukraine, more than
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wounded by mines.
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Lidia Borova, a
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was picking mushrooms
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I turned by the tree.
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And then there was an
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I looked down at myself
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My arm was injured.
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My leg was injured.
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I was losing strength.
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Her right foot and
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Kuznetsov said, first of
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is to persuade a patient that
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It's very difficult
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that the leg is no
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He told us a prosthetic is
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Dr. Kuznetsov saved
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I didn't realize how
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I don't know how I
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Ihor Bogoraz was with
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They found 12 mines,
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I decided to mow the
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And one mine was under my foot.
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I stepped on it and
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And that's it.
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No leg.
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Serhii Nikolaiv was walking
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while uncovering
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If it had been green, he told
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but it was Brown.
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I didn't see it.
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It blended in with the leaves.
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I stepped on it.
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And I knew right away.
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Kuznetsov said, the
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who stepped on petal mines
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The person who invented
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because they only
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But what they can do when
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Petal mines, 5 inches
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by the thousands
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11 pounds of pressure
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Vasyl Solyanik found them on
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There's 18 here, he told us.
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But in all, there were over 50.
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He showed us his video.
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That's a petal mine right there.
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They are so common that we were
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woman who gathered them in a
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station.
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Solyanik told us, there's some
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so don't walk around there.
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He dialed 101.
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And emergency services
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Ivan Shepelev and Ihor Ovcharuk.
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We encounter every
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Ovcharuk told us, anti-infantry
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artillery shells, rockets.
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It's all here.
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At Solyanik's home, a sweep
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bomb.
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Those are tricky.
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So they blew it in place.
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Ivan Shepelev told us,
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they also left booby traps.
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We have seen cases,
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where explosives were
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Ovcharuk said, my
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on removing our dead Ukrainian
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been mined.
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In 2022, Ihor
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shattered when a fellow
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and lost his foot.
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Shepelev told us, we know
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that someone's life is saved.
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A few weeks after our
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wrecked the fire station
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Some were injured, but
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What is the scope of the
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I think the scope is
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Pete Smith heads demining
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a charity founded in
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Smith was 33 years
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and awarded by Queen Elizabeth
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bomb in a train station.
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Today, he says, Ukraine is the
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In some areas, the minefields
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in areas--
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maybe a dozen mines deep.
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But that's just the
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Then several
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there are other layers
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Smith took us to a farm sown
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You have to step carefully.
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Right there, in the
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packed with 17 pounds
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With three weeks of
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Yulia Yaroshchuk was probing
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would detonate a mine near her.
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She threaded the grass, feeling
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Only the day before, a
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and two were wounded in
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Doing this by hand
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it seems to me that you have
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She said, well, of course,
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As far as I know, it'll
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Each day of war means
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Why do you do this work?
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I didn't have to do it.
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I wanted to do it.
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This is my contribution
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Will Ukraine ever
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I think what I have
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in Ukraine is the innovation,
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the sheer will of
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confident that they
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the last mine from Ukraine.
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Does this war make
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Not to a single person here or
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What kind of mind, what
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do you have to be to
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like this on your enemies?
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You can't.
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Even now, someone could
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and it makes a loud noise.
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And in your soul you feel
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It's a real horror.
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my sister-in-law
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by a mine in front
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in front of their eyes.
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510
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Of all of Vladimir Putin's
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one was the bombing of
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Kuznetsov told us, after
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was damaged, a lot
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simply became unavailable.
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Here, we had both intensive
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When Yuriy Kuznetsov
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his grandmother
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He told us that's why
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And we suspect that's why he
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and occupation, and the
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When a town loses
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doesn't just lose the
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The best praise for me was when
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that when we heard the
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we realized that
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It could withstand,
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The future of
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devotion and heroic patience.
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On this day, Yulia
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teased out one Russian mine,
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from its edge.
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The horse has played
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in the history and mythology
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The Shoshone, Crow, Blackfeet,
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first saw horses when
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to this continent 500 years
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in hunting and in
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Collectively, these tribes call
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As we first reported
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men and women from those tribes
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that fans have dubbed America's
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The tribes call it Indian Relay.
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Its roots date back centuries.
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And it's one of
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dangerous, and inspiring things
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Welcome to the 2023
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We start at the start.
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In Indian Relay, as many as
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are brought to a start
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The horses are bareback,
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Their riders wear
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At the sound of a
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and tear down the track.
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To actually get on
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and run as fast as you
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That's easy.
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Yeah.
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Ken Real Bird is a sort
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of Indian relay,
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all over the American West.
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These horses are able to run
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But the hard part
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Wait, what?
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After the riders race, one lap
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they all speed into a sort of
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are waiting with fresh
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known as the exchange.
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572
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So he has to come
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and then angle that horse in.
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He gets off and
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and he's on to the
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Boom, there he goes.
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579
00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:06,580
Ken Real Bird makes that flying
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sounds simple.
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It is not.
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It's more like a dangerous,
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and horses from six
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to do the same thing at the
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You have what they
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Their job, primarily,
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in the proper position
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Now, here they come.
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Simultaneously, you have a guy,
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on his feet.
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And he's got to catch that horse
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That horse, he really doesn't
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A third member of the pit
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because the riders must do
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It's exciting, but it's
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Yeah.
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A lot of injuries.
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Almost every heat will have some
605
00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:27,960
606
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,590
Can you imagine the
607
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:37,410
Chiefs all combined in
608
00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:40,790
That's what it's going to feel
609
00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:43,290
pounds.
610
00:32:43,290 --> 00:32:47,140
Injuries to both horses and
611
00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:50,250
The team that best avoids
612
00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:53,700
that third lap on a third
613
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:55,860
for showing off at the finish.
614
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:58,740
Well, that was a great race.
615
00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:02,400
Ken Real Bird says the
616
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,460
are in the horse stealing
617
00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:08,700
staged against white
618
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:11,550
These young men of
619
00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:14,110
would travel when it
620
00:33:14,110 --> 00:33:17,070
They would come and
621
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:20,670
and hightail it back
622
00:33:20,670 --> 00:33:23,880
They exchanged horses as they
623
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,350
were being pursued.
624
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:31,030
And so that's pretty much the
625
00:33:31,030 --> 00:33:32,680
that we know today.
626
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,770
Races in the organized
627
00:33:35,770 --> 00:33:38,110
in the early 1900s.
628
00:33:38,110 --> 00:33:40,870
When they first started out,
629
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:43,900
were happening more in
630
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,910
Native communities on
631
00:33:45,910 --> 00:33:47,510
I've seen some races--
632
00:33:47,510 --> 00:33:50,450
Calvin Ghost Bear is a
633
00:33:50,450 --> 00:33:51,860
Seven heats, eight heats.
634
00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:55,600
And president of an organization
635
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,420
Relay Council.
636
00:33:56,420 --> 00:34:00,340
637
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:02,980
What we do with Horse
638
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:05,080
took a lot of the
639
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,720
within the tribal
640
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,480
into the mainstream.
641
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,400
And now we're bringing
642
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,270
643
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:18,659
Last summer's Indian Relay
644
00:34:18,659 --> 00:34:22,949
and climaxed in Casper, Wyoming,
645
00:34:22,949 --> 00:34:30,040
event that celebrated tribal
646
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,870
and dance, and offered more
647
00:34:35,870 --> 00:34:39,429
thanks to sponsorship from a
648
00:34:39,429 --> 00:34:41,020
Arapaho tribe.
649
00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:42,790
This is the ladies.
650
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:47,060
It included a women's division.
651
00:34:47,060 --> 00:34:51,110
It's two laps and two horses,
652
00:34:51,110 --> 00:34:54,400
in men's races.
653
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,770
But the athleticism and danger
654
00:34:59,770 --> 00:35:01,810
Now, there's no
655
00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:04,450
There's also a
656
00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:05,770
Takes a great tumble.
657
00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:09,340
with riders as young
658
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,610
climbing on and falling off.
659
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:14,290
He's going to be all right.
660
00:35:14,290 --> 00:35:16,420
Those are the guys
661
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:19,660
the great riders, the great
662
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:20,920
all horsemen.
663
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,400
And it's like that
664
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,110
665
00:35:26,110 --> 00:35:28,720
On the Blackfeet
666
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,730
we met Ervin Carlson
667
00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:36,640
who have been competing
668
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Chazz is one of the most
669
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,410
circuit.
670
00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:44,270
For relay, making
671
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:47,350
is just practice, practice,
672
00:35:47,350 --> 00:35:49,360
of experience.
673
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,150
Chazz is off.
674
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:54,330
675
00:35:54,330 --> 00:35:57,330
Another team we followed through
676
00:35:57,330 --> 00:36:01,110
by 23-year-old Tuesday Washakie
677
00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:03,300
in Wyoming.
678
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:07,090
Her younger sister, Zia, is the
679
00:36:07,090 --> 00:36:11,400
Both feel a close
680
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,570
If you're having a bad day,
681
00:36:16,570 --> 00:36:17,310
you can go out.
682
00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:19,950
And you can catch your
683
00:36:19,950 --> 00:36:24,180
and things will just
684
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:27,870
I think that's just how it is.
685
00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:31,500
Mason Red Wing feels the
686
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:33,480
to care for his horses.
687
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,310
It's really something
688
00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:36,580
all here for one purpose.
689
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:38,130
And it's the horse.
690
00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:39,330
Just setting up over here.
691
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:42,030
Mason hails from the Crow
692
00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:43,890
in South Dakota.
693
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:45,810
When I was younger,
694
00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:48,120
why I used to feel such
695
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,230
towards my own people.
696
00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:51,670
I didn't want to
697
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:55,410
And the horse helped me
698
00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:58,200
and be proud of who I am
699
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,950
Why were you feeling you didn't
700
00:37:01,950 --> 00:37:04,000
Growing up, where I'm
701
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,330
you see a lot of
702
00:37:06,330 --> 00:37:08,860
not proud to be where I'm from.
703
00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:09,360
Like what?
704
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,730
Alcoholism, drug addiction,
705
00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:17,550
Suicide rates on the reservation
706
00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:18,970
the national average.
707
00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:23,130
My own father succumbed
708
00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:24,900
So it really hit home.
709
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:26,380
You said the horse
710
00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:26,880
Yup.
711
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,800
Yes, sir.
712
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,990
Essentially.
713
00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:32,240
You think it does that for a lot
714
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,170
So there's a lot
715
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:38,710
that are just looking
716
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:43,250
There's little glamor in Indian
717
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:45,070
Every team is self-funded.
718
00:37:45,070 --> 00:37:48,680
And nearly everyone has a day
719
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,050
But the sport is on the rise.
720
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:52,810
Prize money is increasing.
721
00:37:52,810 --> 00:37:56,920
And 67 teams competed in
722
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,920
723
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,240
The quality of
724
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,730
Teams go to major racetracks
725
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:11,290
home of the Kentucky Derby,
726
00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:13,270
to Indian Relay.
727
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:17,800
Kentucky, that would be
728
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,030
race before the derby.
729
00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:23,110
That would be my goal.
730
00:38:23,110 --> 00:38:26,270
Lots of thrills and
731
00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:28,800
732
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,330
Each team competed in one heat
733
00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:36,540
Their cumulative time
734
00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:39,390
determined whether they
735
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:42,270
heat on Sunday.
736
00:38:42,270 --> 00:38:46,780
Is the race usually won
737
00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:49,760
Yeah.
738
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,240
It's like a relay team
739
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:58,890
But in Indian Relay, exchanges
740
00:38:58,890 --> 00:39:02,720
18 other humans,
741
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,820
From what I've seen, it's like--
742
00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:05,460
Chaos.
743
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:07,220
Chaos.
744
00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:09,890
In the block, it's
745
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:13,340
Tuesday Washakie's women's
746
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:14,460
in Casper.
747
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:16,350
Oo Vee Das is right there.
748
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:19,710
And her sister Zia had a
749
00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:22,210
They finished a close second.
750
00:39:22,210 --> 00:39:24,080
I don't know, did you
751
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,800
it make you more determined?
752
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,170
It makes me more
753
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:30,170
I'd be out here mad as
754
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:33,260
Winning it all is going
755
00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:35,210
The first place
756
00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:37,100
came from the
757
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:40,970
in Washington State with
758
00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:42,770
Is this your first championship?
759
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:45,440
No, I actually won the
760
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,200
All right.
761
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,760
Yeah, when I was 13.
762
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,260
And how old are you now?
763
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:50,010
17.
764
00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:50,680
17?
765
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,180
Yeah.
766
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:51,730
Wow.
767
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:53,360
Are you going to do
768
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,750
Yeah, I'm going to do
769
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:57,870
I love this game.
770
00:39:57,870 --> 00:40:00,390
The day before, we
771
00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:04,320
win a heat with her arms
772
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,850
and strength.
773
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:10,540
It is how we connect to
774
00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:12,970
the warriors of 200 years ago.
775
00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:16,170
It's that same bloodline
776
00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:18,780
is cursing through their blood.
777
00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:20,220
Mason Red Wing.
778
00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:25,050
Over three days of
779
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:29,280
Mason Red Wing and his team go
780
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,120
when an exchange went
781
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,220
as another went right.
782
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:38,170
Good, good, good.
783
00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:41,470
Because we're always searching
784
00:40:41,470 --> 00:40:44,320
They didn't quite
785
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,230
It's for the championship
786
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:51,250
The team that did was
787
00:40:51,250 --> 00:40:54,190
met months earlier on the
788
00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:57,120
Ervin Carlson and his son Chazz.
789
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,530
So we've been following
790
00:40:59,530 --> 00:41:02,660
This is the culmination of
791
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:05,100
So does this give you bragging
792
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
793
00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:07,990
[CHANTING]
794
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:08,950
795
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:12,550
As a tribal elder sang a
796
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:16,210
of their victory and organizers
797
00:41:16,210 --> 00:41:18,140
for $20,000.
798
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:20,680
Give him a nice
799
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,460
We noticed a group of kids
800
00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:26,560
watching intently.
801
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,090
What the horse
802
00:41:28,090 --> 00:41:30,670
the horse can do that for
803
00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:34,120
And I'm a firm believer in it.
804
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,660
I know for a fact, it
805
00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:38,760
and our young women back.
806
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:47,280
807
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,490
I'm Scott Pelley.
808
00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:53,030
We'll be back next week with
809
00:41:53,030 --> 00:42:02,350
810
00:42:02,350 --> 00:42:04,940
So when you look out there
811
00:42:04,940 --> 00:42:05,690
what do you think?
812
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:07,640
I see money leaving America.
813
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,900
Pure insanity.
814
00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:11,350
You're noticing mis-
815
00:42:11,350 --> 00:42:12,660
on your own social media.
816
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,080
This is the world
817
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,370
And we can make impacts
818
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:20,560
819
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,370
Is this a battle of
820
00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:23,110
In part it is.
821
00:42:23,110 --> 00:42:24,050
Black versus White.
822
00:42:24,050 --> 00:42:26,560
In part it is.
823
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,700
If you're not willing to
824
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:30,240
then what are you
825
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:37,030
826
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:37,550
Go for me.
827
00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:37,930
Go for three.
828
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:38,510
1, 2, 3.
829
00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:40,060
Go.
830
00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:41,980
I want a strong America.
831
00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:44,640
I want a proud America.
832
00:42:44,640 --> 00:43:03,000