[ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> NOW WE HAVE THIS STUPID STUFF WHERE YOU CAN VOTE 45 DAYS EARLY.
I WONDER WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS DURING THAT 45. LET'S MOVE THE VOTES, GOT ABOUT A MILLION VOTES.
LET'S MOVE THEM. >> HE SEEMS TO BE SAYING THAT THERE IS CHEATING GOING ON WITH MAIL-IN BALLOTS HERE.
>> THERE IS NOT. ELECTIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE SAFE AND SECURE, WITH A VOTER VERIFIED PAPER
BALLOT RECORD OF EVERY VOTE THAT'S CAST, WHETHER YOU VOTE IN PERSON ON ELECTION DAY OR YOU VOTE BY MAIL.
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >>> MARY LAURINO GREW UP LONGING FOR A LARGE FAMILY, ONLY TO
LEARN SHE HAD ONE IN ITALY. IT WAS YEARS BEFORE SHE COULD ASK HER BIRTH MOTHER THE MOST PAINFUL QUESTION OF ALL.
WHY WAS SHE GIVEN AWAY? >> THE CHURCH CONVINCED HER THAT IT WAS THE BEST THING FOR HER. SO, INSTEAD OF HELPING HER, IT
WAS BETTER FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY SELLING BABIES. SO, AM I ANGRY AT THE CHURCH? HELL YEAH.
[ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> COME ON! >> AMONG THE BILLIONAIRES WHO OWN U.S. PRO SPORTS FRANCHISES,
STEVE BALLMER IS THE WEALTHIEST BY FAR. HE BOUGHT THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS FOR $2 BILLION AND JUST
SPENT ANOTHER 2 BILLION PLUS BUILDING THIS PLACE. JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR ABOUT THE BATHROOMS.
[ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES." >>> PENNSYLVANIA IS THE MOST PIVOTAL BATTLEGROUND IN THE RACE
FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. WITH ITS 19 ELECTORAL VOTES, IT IS THE STATE WHERE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE
PRESIDENT HARRIS ARE SPENDING THE MOST TIME AND MONEY, A COMBINED $436 MILLION BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR ALLIES.
IT'S ALSO WHERE THE RESULTS COULD TAKE DAYS TO COUNT, DUE TO A STATE LAW THAT PREVENTS MAIL-IN BALLOTS FROM BEING
PROCESSED EARLY. THE ANTICIPATED LAG, WHICH DRAGGED OUT PENNSYLVANIA'S COUNT IN 2020, NOW HAS ELECTION
OFFICIALS BRACING FOR A REPEAT OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND VIOLENCE. AT THE HELM, LIFELONG REPUBLICAN
AL SCHMIDT. HE STOOD UP TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REFUSED TO JOIN ATTEMPTS TO OVERTURN HIS LOSS
FOUR YEARS AGO. AS SECRETARY OF STATE, SCHMIDT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY TO
ASSURE RESIDENTS THEIR VOTES WILL COUNT AND TO TAKE ON THE LIES TRUMP CONTINUES TO SPREAD ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA.
>> WHAT'S THE REALITY? VOTER FRAUD IS WIDESPREAD, VOTER FRAUD NEVER HAPPENS? >> THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
WHATSOEVER THAT VOTER FRAUD TAKES PLACE IN ANY WAY THAT IS WIDESPREAD AT ALL. >> IF A NON-CITIZEN TRIED TO
CAST A BALLOT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CATCH IT? >> THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WHEN IT
GETS IDENTIFIED, THERE ARE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES, WHETHER IT'S PROSECUTION AND/OR DEPORTATION FROM THE COUNTRY.
>> WE MET SECRETARY OF STATE AL SCHMIDT LAST MONTH IN THE STATE CAPITOL IN HARRISBURG. >> WE HAVE TO WIN PENNSYLVANIA.
>> THE NIGHT BEFORE, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HELD A RALLY JUST A FEW HOURS AWAY, WHERE HE STOKES FEARS ABOUT VOTING IN
PENNSYLVANIA. >> NOW WE HAVE THIS STUPID STUFF WHERE YOU CAN VOTE 45 DAYS EARLY.
I WONDER WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS DURING THAT 45. LET'S MOVE THE -- WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MILLION VOTES IN THERE.
LET'S MOVE THEM. >> HAVE YOU HEARD WHAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAID LAST NIGHT AT HIS RALLY HERE IN
PENNSYLVANIA? >> NO. >> HE SEEMS TO BE SAYING THERE IS CHEATING GOING ON WITH
MAIL-IN BALLOTS HERE. >> THERE IS NOT. ELECTIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE SAFE AND SECURE,
WITH A VOTER VERIFIED PAPER BALLOT RECORD OF EVERY VOTE THAT'S CAST, WHETHER YOU VOTE IN PERSON ON ELECTION DAY OR YOU
VOTE BY MAIL. >> SCHMIDT ONCE HAD HIS OWN DOUBTS ABOUT ELECTION SECURITY. BEFORE BECOMING SECRETARY OF
STATE, HE SPENT A DECADE ON PHILADELPHIA'S BOARD OF ELECTIONS, WHERE HE INVESTIGATED HUNDREDS OF CLAIMS OF VOTER
FRAUD AND CHANGED HIS MIND. >> WHENEVER IT HAS OCCURRED, HOWEVER RARELY, IT'S TO AFFECT SOME VERY DOWN-TICKET RACE THAT
IS DECIDED BY A HANDFUL OF VOTES. IT'S NOT TO DECIDE WHO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OR WHO THE GOVERNOR IS OR WHO A SENATOR IS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. >> AS SECRETARY OF STATE,
SCHMIDT IS VISITING EACH OF PENNSYLVANIA'S 67 COUNTIES. >> ARE YOU REGISTERED TO VOTE IN PENNSYLVANIA?
YOUR VOICE MATTERS. >> PART SHOW, PART PUBLIC RELATIONS TOUR, SPREADING THE GOSPEL OF ELECTION SECURITY.
>> ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 5th. YOU CAN VOTE BY MAIL IN ADVANCE. >> INCLUDING A STOP AT A FAIR IN DEEP RED COLUMBIA COUNTY.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU. >> HE SPENT MORE THAN 35 MINUTES TRYING TO CONVINCE THESE LOCAL REPUBLICANS THAT THEY CAN TRUST
THE VOTING SYSTEM. >> YOU HAVE A PUBLIC RECORD OF WHEN SOMEBODY DIES. YOU HAVE PUBLIC RECORD WHEN THEY
CAST THEIR VOTE. >> THERE ARE CASES PEOPLE HAVE VOTED. >> ONLY CASES I HAVE ENCOUNTERED
ARE WHEN A VOTER HAS CAST THEIR BALLOT BY MAIL AND THEN PASSED AWAY IN BETWEEN MAILING IN THEIR VOTE AND THEIR VOTE BEING
COUNTED. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT. >> TRUMP'S GOT THE RALLIES AND HE'S GOT THE MICROPHONE AND HE'S
GOT THE AUDIENCES, AND HE CAN SPREAD HIS MESSAGE TO THOUSANDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. AND YOU'RE HERE AT THE COUNTY
FAIR AND YOU'VE GOT TO STAND AND YOU'RE DOING IT ONE TO THREE VOTERS AT A TIME. >> YES, ONE AT A TIMING IT.
>> YOU, KIND OF, CAN'T COMPETE. >> BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT ONE-ON-ONE CONTACT, TO GO TO A COUNTY FAIR, TO ENGAGE
WITH PEOPLE, TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. >> I LOVE YOU, PHILLY! >> DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR JOSH
SHAPIRO TOLD US THAT CHOOSING AL SCHMIDT, A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN, AS HIS FIRST CABINET PICK LAST YEAR WAS INTENDED TO SEND A
CLEAR MESSAGE. >> OF ALL THE CABINET APPOINTMENTS THAT YOU COULD HAVE MADE FIRST, WHY WAS IT AL
SCHMIDT? >> I MADE A COMMITMENT DURING MY CAMPAIGN THAT I WAS GOING TO APPOINT A PRO-DEMOCRACY
SECRETARY OF STATE. >> WHAT WERE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS TO HIM? >> DO YOUR JOB.
MAKE IT SO LEGAL, ELIGIBLE VOTERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE BALLOT BOX AND THAT WE, AGAIN, HAVE A FREE AND FAIR, SAFE AND SECURE
ELECTION. >> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SECRETARIES OF STATE, THE ROLE, YOU TEND TO THINK THAT IT,
RESPECTFULLY, IS A BORING JOB, A MUNDANE JOB, AN ADMINISTRATIVE JOB. HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT FOR YOU?
>> IT IS. I MEAN, ELECTIONS SHOULD BE NOT SOMETHING TO DREAD. THEY SHOULD BE SOMETHING TO
CELEBRATE. AND VOTERS SHOULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IF THEY CAST THEIR VOTE, WHETHER IT'S BY MAIL OR IN
PERSON ON ELECTION DAY, THAT THEIR VOTE IS GOING TO BE COUNTED. >> SO, IN 2020, IT TOOK FOUR
DAYS TO CALL THE ELECTION IN PENNSYLVANIA. WHAT TOOK SO LONG? >> WHEN YOU HAVE HALF OF YOUR
VOTERS VOTE BY MAIL LIKE WE DID IN 2020, COUNTING THOSE VOTES TAKES TIME. >> WE SAW FOR OURSELVES AT A
BALLOT INTAKE CENTER IN CHESTER COUNTY OUTSIDE PHILADELPHIA. >> THIS IS THE ACTUAL -- >> AND THIS IS A SAMPLE.
>> ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR KAREN BARSOUM SHOWED US HOW EACH BALLOT ARRIVES INSIDE TWO DIFFERENT ENVELOPES.
PROCESSING THEM IS A TEDIOUS TASK, WHICH UNDER PENNSYLVANIA LAW, CANNOT START UNTIL 7:00 A.M. ON ELECTION DAY.
>> SO, WHEN WE DO OPEN THIS, THERE IS ANOTHER ENVELOPE. SO, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF WE HAVE 100,000 MAIL-IN BALLOTS
WERKS HAVE TO DEAL WITH DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ENVELOPES, WHICH IS A LONG PROCESS. AND THEN THE BALLOTS COME OUT.
>> AND YOU CAN'T COUNT IT FOLDED LIKE THAT? >> CORRECT. WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A WHOLE
DIFFERENT SEAM, UNFOLD THEM, BACK FOLD THEM, TO GET THE CREASES OUT AS GOOD AS WE CAN. >> HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO
PROCESS EACH BALLOT? >> SEVERAL MINUTES. IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT, LIKE, DONE IN A SEC.
>> THAT WINDOW OF TIME BETWEEN THE POLLS CLOSING AND RACES BEING CALLED I THINK IS SHOWN TO BE A REAL VULNERABILITY, WHERE
PEOPLE SEEKING TO UNDERMINE CONFIDENCE IN THOSE RESULTS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE, HAVE REALLY EXPLOITED.
>> THOSE FOUR DAYS ALLOWED THE BIG LIE TO TAKE OFF. >> AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START HEARING ABOUT TRUCK LOADS OF
BALLOTS. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START HEARING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ZOMBIE VOTERS.
THAT'S WHEN ALL THIS OTHER STUFF REALLY STARTS POURING IN. >> THERE HAVE BEEN WIDESPREAD CALLS TO BRING PENNSYLVANIA IN
LINE WITH THE MAJORITY OF OTHER STATES, WHERE ELECTION WORKERS GET A HEAD START ON OPENING ENVELOPES AND FLATTENING BALLOTS
AHEAD OF ELECTION DAY. >> WHY HASN'T THAT CHANGED? YOU HAD FOUR YEARS, PENNSYLVANIA.
>> PENNSYLVANIA'S UNIQUE IN THAT WE HAVE A DIVIDED LEGISLATURE. WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE AND A REPUBLICAN SENATE.
SO, GETTING ANYTHING DONE RELATED TO ELECTION REFORM HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A CHALLENGE. >> THE MESSAGE IS WHAT?
BE PATIENT WITH PENNSYLVANIA. >> THE MESSAGE IS, PLEASE BE PATIENT. OUR COUNTIES ARE WORKING NIGHT
AND DAY TO COUNT THEIR VOTERS' VOTES. THEY'RE DOING SO AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN AND WITH INTEGRITY.
OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CONSTANTLY JUST PROVIDING THE TRUTH TO VOTERS. >> FOR SECRETARY SCHMIDT,
GETTING OUT THE MESSAGE CAN MEAN LATE NIGHTS ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELECTORAL PROCESS IN GRANULAR DETAIL.
>> IT TAKES TIME TO COUNT MILLIONS OF VOTES. >> AS WE SAW AT THIS LAW SCHOOL IN HARRISBURG.
>> WE'RE MUCH BETTER PREPARED TODAY FOUR YEARS LATER THAN WE WERE. >> HE'S TEAMED UP WITH FELLOW
REPUBLICAN, TOM CORBETT. >> THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS A REFRAIN AT HIS RALLIES. HE SAYS DEMOCRATS RIGGED THE
ELECTION IN 2020, AND HE'S NOT GOING TO LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT THIS YEAR. >> EVIDENCE.
BRING IT. ANY U.S. ATTORNEY, ANY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, BRING THE EVIDENCE AND SHOW THEM.
NOT WHAT YOU WANT. YOU'VE GOT TO CONVINCE THE PROSECUTOR AND THE COURT. >> YOU'VE GOT POLLS THAT SHOW
SOME 34% OF AMERICANS, NEARLY 70% OF REPUBLICANS, WHO STILL TO THIS DAY BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN DIDN'T WIN THE 2020 ELECTION.
>> BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THAT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT BECAUSE THEY'VE HEARD IT SO MANY TIMES. >> YOU'VE SAID THERE'S A HUGE
AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE THAT CAN BE INFLUENCED BY THE EXTREMES. IS THAT WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO
EDUCATE? >> YES. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. BUT RIGHT HERE.
AND IN A CLOSE ELECTION, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. >> WE WON PENNSYLVANIA TWICE. WE WON IT TWICE.
WE DID MUCH BETTER THE SECOND TIME THAN WE DID THE FIRST TIME. >> HE CONTINUES TO SAY THAT HE WON PENNSYLVANIA TWICE.
>> DONALD TRUMP WON IN 2016 BY ABOUT 44,000 VOTES, AND DONALD TRUMP LOST IN 2020 BY ABOUT 80,000 VOTES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S A SORE LOSER. I UNDERSTAND THAT HE WISHED HE WOULD HAVE WON IN 2020.
BUT ATTACKING THIS SYSTEM MADE UP OF OUR NEIGHBORS FROM COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA, REPUBLICAN AND
DEMOCRAT ALIKE, IS NOT THE ANSWER. >> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS REFUSING TO COMMIT TO ACCEPTING
THE RESULTS IF HE LOSES. >> IF HE DOES REFUSE, WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> I THINK IT CAN LOOK, UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 2020, WITH VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES,
WITH THREATS TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS, GOOD PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIKE AL SCHMIDT AND THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC CLERKS
OF ELECTIONS. AM I WORRIED ABOUT THAT? AM I CONCERNED ABOUT THAT? OF COURSE I AM.
>> IN 2020, AS THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION HUNG IN THE BALANCE, ALL EYES WERE ON THE PENNSYLVANIA CONVENTION CENTER
IN PHILADELPHIA. OUTSIDE POLICE AND PROTESTERS SURROUNDED THE BUILDING WHILE INSIDE AL SCHMIDT OVERSAW THE
COUNTING OF A RECORD 375,000 MAIL-IN BALLOTS, MOST OF THEM FROM DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. >> WE'RE WINNING PENNSYLVANIA BY
A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. >> HOURS AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED, THEN-PRESIDENT TRUMP DEMANDED THE COUNTING STOP.
>> WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FIND ANY BALLOTS AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND ADD THEM TO THE LIST, OKAY?
>> WE WERE WORKING DAY AND NIGHT. THERE WAS ONE TELEVISION THAT WAS WORKING.
AND I HAPPENED TO BE PASSING IT WHEN I HEARD THAT SPEECH. SO, IMMEDIATELY BROUGHT TOGETHER OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO
BEGIN, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, ASSURING THE REST OF THE WORLD, WHOSE EYES WERE ON PENNSYLVANIA, THAT OUR VOTE
COUNTING WAS GOING TO CONTINUE. >> BUT AT THAT POINT YOU'VE GOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING, STOP THE COUNT.
DID YOU EVER FEEL LIKE YOU HAD TO STOP THE COUNT? >> NO, NOT FOR A SECOND. >> AFTER FOUR DAYS, THE RACE IN
PENNSYLVANIA WAS FINALLY CALLED FOR JOE BIDEN. AND WITH THAT, HE WON THE WHITE HOUSE.
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT AFTER AL SCHMIDT BY NAME ON TWITTER, AND VIOLENT THREATS FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS FOLLOWED.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST THREAT THAT MADE YOU GO, I'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS ONE SERIOUSLY? >> THERE WERE THREATS EARLY ON
THAT WERE PRETTY GENERIC IN NATURE. BUT AS THE DAYS WENT ON, THEY BECAME A LOT MORE SPECIFIC,
PROVIDING MY ADDRESS, GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO MY FAMILY. >> THEY USED A PICTURE OF YOUR
HOUSE AT ONE POINT, I UNDERSTAND -- >> YES. >> -- LISTED YOUR CHILDREN'S
NAMES REPEATEDLY. YOU HAD TO MOVE YOUR FAMILY OUT OF YOUR HOUSE FOR SAFETY? >> YES, I HAD TO RELOCATE FOR A
PERIOD, AND WE HAD SECURITY AROUND THE CLOCK FOR MANY MONTHS. >> GIVEN ALL THE THREATS THAT
YOU FACED PERSONALLY, I'VE GOT TO ASK WHY YOU WOULD AGREE TO TAKE THIS JOB. >> WELL, EVERYTHING IS ON THE
LINE. OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, OUR COUNTRY AS IT WAS FOUNDED, IS ON THE LINE.
TIKHANOVSKAY . >>> DURING THE 1950s, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN BELGIUM
SEPARATED THOUSANDS OF NEWBORNS FROM THEIR UNWED MOTHERS AND PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION, OFTEN WITHOUT THE MOTHER'S CONSENT.
THE WOMEN WERE SHAMED INTO SURRENDERING THEIR BABIES BY THEIR FAMILIES AND A POWERFUL CHURCH.
LAST MONTH, POPE FRANCIS APOLOGIZED FOR THOSE FORCED ADOPTIONS. BUT BELGIANS WEREN'T THE ONLY
VICTIMS. FROM 1950 TO 1970, THE VATICAN SENT 3,500 ITALIAN CHILDREN TO AMERICA ON SOMETHING CALLED AN
ORPHAN VISA. THE TROUBLE WAS MOST WERE NOT ORPHANS. LIKE THEIR BELGIAN COUNTERPARTS,
THEY, TOO, WERE THE CHILDREN OF UNWED MOTHERS. MANY MOTHERS LATER WENT SEARCHING FOR THEIR CHILDREN
ONLY TO DISCOVER THEY HAD BEEN SENT ACROSS AN OCEAN. TODAY, THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN ADOPTEES ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO
PIECE TOGETHER THEIR LOST LIVES. IT WAS A DAY HE'LL NEVER FORGET. AMERICAN ADOPTEE JOHN CAMPITELLI WAS 28 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS
REUNITED WITH HIS ITALIAN BIRTH MOTHER. HE'D BEEN SEARCHING FOR HER FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, A MOTHER
HE'D BEEN TOLD HAD ABANDONED HIM. >> MY MOM SAID, YOU KNOW, 28 YEARS HAVE GONE BY.
I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO BAKE A CAKE FOR YOU FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY. SHE SAID, I DON'T CARE WHAT MONTH IT IS, I'M GOING TO BAKE
YOU A CAKE. WE NEED TO CELEBRATE BECAUSE OUR PRODIGAL SON HAS COME HOME. >> HIS MOTHER, FRANCESCA, WAS
UNMARRIED AND FORCED BY HER FAMILY TO GIVE HIM UP. HE WAS SENT TO A CATHOLIC-RUN INSTITUTION FOR THE CHILDREN OF
UNWED MOTHERS. SHUNNED AND DISGRACED, FRANCESCA HANDED HER BABY TO THE NUNS. IMMEDIATELY, HER NAME WAS
STRIPPED FROM THE BIRTH RECORDS. WITH THE STROKE OF A PEN, PIERO DAVI BECAME AN ORPHAN. CAMPITELLI SHOWED US THE CHURCH
DOCUMENTS THAT CHANGED HIS LIFE. >> IT SAYS HERE, ABANDONED SINCE BIRTH, AND THEIR WHEREABOUTS ARE UNKNOWN.
THEY KNEW DAMN WELL WHERE MY MOM WAS. I MEAN, SHE SHOWED HER DOCUMENTS WHEN SHE HANDED ME OVER.
THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. >> A LIE JOHN CAMPITELLI HAS SPENT HIS LIFE UNRAVELING. AS SOON AS HE WAS DECLARED AN
ORPHAN, HE WAS ELIGIBLE FOR ADOPTION AND A U.S. VISA. HE SAYS HIS MOTHER TOLD HIM SHE HAD NO IDEA.
SHE HAD EVERY INTENTION OF COMING BACK FOR HIM. >> SHE SAID, I NEVER SIGNED A PAPER ANYWHERE SAYING THAT I WAS
WILLING TO GIVE YOU UP. >> SHE THOUGHT PLACING YOU WAS TEMPORARY? >> SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HER
RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET ME BACK SOME DAY WHEN SHE GOT HER LIFE TOGETHER. >> SHE NEVER SIGNED YOU AWAY?
>> NO. SHE SAID, I PLACED YOU BECAUSE I COULDN'T KEEP YOU AT THAT POINT IN TIME BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY
SITUATION. BUT I NEVER CONSENTED TO THE ADOPTION OR TO THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD LEAVE ITALY AND YOU WOULD
BE FAR FROM ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. >> PIERO DAVI WAS ONE OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN BORN OUT
OF WEDLOCK THAT THE VATICAN REPACKAGED AS ORPHANS. THE CHURCH ARRANGED THE VISAS, HELPED BY A 1950 U.S. LAW THAT
BROADENED THE DEFINITION OF ORPHAN TO INCLUDE A CHILD WITH ONE PARENT BUT ONE WHO COULDN'T PROVIDE CARE.
WITH THAT LEEWAY, THE ORPHAN PROGRAM BOOMED. FOR PIERO'S MOTHER AND THOUSANDS LIKE HER, IT WAS DEVASTATING TO
LEARN THE CHILD SHE HAD ENTRUSTED TO THE CHURCH HAD DISAPPEARED. >> IT SEEMS THAT MANY OF THESE
MOTHERS HAD NO IDEA THAT THEIR CHILDREN WERE BEING SENT TO THE UNITED STATES. COULD THEY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU CAN'T SEND BABY TO THE UNITED STATES AND THEN TELL THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS THAT THE BIRTH
MOTHER WANTS THE CHILD. >> AUTHOR MARIA LAURINO UNCOVERED THE VATICAN'S ORPHAN PROGRAM IN HER BOOK, "THE PRICE
OF CHILDREN." SHE SPEPIECED THE STORY TOGETHE FROM HUNDREDS OF DOCUMENTS IN THE CHURCH'S OWN ARCHIVES IN NEW
YORK. LAURINO TOLD US THE PROGRAM HINGED ON A CONSENT FORM THE MOTHERS WERE SUPPOSED TO SIGN,
SEVERING ALL RIGHTS TO THE CHILD. BUT LAURINO TOLD US DOCTORS OR LAWYERS SOMETIMES SIGNED THE
CONSENT WITHOUT TELLING THE MOTHER. OTHERS WOULD OTHERS WERE DELIBERATELY MISLED.
>> THERE WERE WOMEN WHO WERE TRAPPED INTO THE SITUATION, AND TREMENDOUS PRESSURE TO RELINQUISH THEIR CHILDREN.
THEY WERE WOMEN WHO WERE TRICKED, WHO SIGNED FORMS THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. AND IN THE WORSE CASES, THERE
WERE WOMEN WHO WERE TOLD THEIR CHILD HAD DIED. >> TOLD THEIR CHILD HAD DIED? >> YES.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> YEAH, IT'S SO -- IT'S SO HORRIBLE. THE THINKING, I'VE BEEN TOLD,
WAS THAT IT WAS AN EASIER PSYCHOLOGICAL CLOSURE TO TELL A BIRTH MOTHER THAT HER CHILD HAD DIED THAN TO LET HER KNOW THAT
HER CHILD HAD BEEN GIVEN UP FOR ADOPTION. >> SO, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CHURCH WERE TELLING THESE
MOTHERS THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAD DIED WHEN IN FACT THEY HAD NOT AND THEY HAD BEEN SENT TO THE UNITED STATES.
>> YES. >> LAURINO TOLD US MANY MORE WOMEN WERE TOLD THEY COULD GET THEIR CHILDREN BACK.
SHE FOUND LETTERS FROM DISTRAUGHT MOTHERS PLEADING FOR THEIR RETURN. >> THESE ARE LETTERS THAT WERE
FOUND IN THE ARCHIVES? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS A LETTER TO REVEREND LANDI, MONSIGNOR LANDI.
I BEG THAT MY CHILDREN BE REPATRIATED. IF I CANNOT SEE MY CHILDREN, I WILL SHORTEN MY LIFE.
I FIND MYSELF DECEIVED AND I DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW. >> MONSIGNOR LANDI WAS ANDREW LANDI, AN AMERICAN PRIEST LIVING
IN ROME WHO RAN THE ORPHAN PROGRAM. IN 1951, POPE -- SAW THE CHILDREN OFF.
THOUSANDS MORE WOULD FOLLOW. >> HOW COULD THEY BE DEFINED AS ORPHANS -- >> I KNOW.
>> -- IF THEY HAVE A MOTHER, IN MANY CASES A FATHER STILL ALIVE. >> AND TO TALK TO THE ADOPTED CHILDREN TODAY, THEY GET VERY
ANGRY TO SAY, I'M NOT A ORPHAN. I SPENT YEARS SEARCHING FOR MY PARENTS. >> THE CHURCH CHARGED $475 PER
CHILD, ABOUT $4,500 TODAY. BUT LAURINO TOLD US THE DEMAND FROM EAGER AMERICAN CATHOLICS GREW SO FAST THAT MONSIGNOR
LANDI SENT LOCAL PRIESTS TO SCOUR THE COUNTRYSIDE FOR MORE CHILDREN. >> THE CORRESPONDENCE SHOWS
THEY -- >> LITERALLY LOOKING FOR BABIES BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK. >> YES.
>> IT ACTUALLY TURNED INTO A MACHINE, LOOKING FOR BABIES TO SEND THEM TO THE UNITED STATES? >> RIGHT.
>> JOHN CAMPITELLI TOLD US HE HAD A LOVING FAMILY IN NEW YORK. BUT WHEN HE FOUND OUT HE WAS ADOPTED, HE SAYS HE BECAME
OBSESSED WITH FINDING HIS BIRTH MOTHER. THERE WERE FEW CLUES. EVEN HIS SURNAME, DAVI, WAS A
DEAD END, INVENTED BY THE STATE TO CUT ALL TIES. FINALLY, HE PERSUADED AN ITALIAN NEWSPAPER TO PUBLISH HIS STORY.
AND THEN A BREAK THROUGH. SOMEONE KNEW HIS MOTHER. IN 1991, HE SPOKE TO HER FOR THE FIRST TIME.
>> SHE SAID, ARE YOU PIERO. I SAID, WELL, NO, I'M JOHN. I'M REALLY PIERO. I'M YOUR SON.
>> SO, YOU WERE NERVOUS. >> I WAS REALLY NERVOUS. BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO.
BUT WHEN THE MOMENT COMES, YOU'RE LIKE -- >> KIND OF TONGUE TIED. >> YEAH, YEAH.
I WAS TONGUE TIED. I FINALLY GET TO TALK TO THE PERSON THAT ACTUALLY GAVE BIRTH TO ME, THAT HELD ME, THAT BREAST
FED ME FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. SO, I KNOW THAT SHE LOVED ME. >> WHAT WAS HER VOICE LIKE TO
YOU? >> IT BROUGHT ME TO TEARS, I MUST ADMIT. AND WE SAID WE WERE NEVER GOING
TO LET GO OF EACH OTHER FROM THEN ON. >> TWO MONTHS LATER, HE WAS ON A FLIGHT TO ITALY.
>> WE HAD EXCHANGED PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT I SAID, I DIDN'T NEED A PHOTOGRAPH BECAUSE I SAW THAT LADY THERE IN FRONT OF ME.
AND I SAID, THAT'S MY MOM. SHE LOOKS IDENTICAL TO ME. AND AFTER 28 YEARS, I CAN SAY THAT I JUST RAN OVER TO HER AND
I EMBRACED HER AND I SAID, MOM, FINALLY. I KISSED HER. I SAID, MOM, NO ONE HAD TO TELL
ME WHO YOU WERE. I KNEW WHO YOU WERE. I JUST HAD TO LOOK AT YOU. >> CAMPITELLI MOVED TO ITALY AND
LEARNED ITALIAN TO SPEAK TO HIS BIRTH FAMILY. BUT HE TOLD US THAT DIDN'T UNDO THE SUFFERING THE CHURCH HAD
CAUSED. >> I FELT THAT MY WHOLE LIFE WAS BASED ON A LIE. THEY TOLD HER THAT THEY WOULD
TAKE CARE OF ME, AND THAT WAS A LIE. THEY GOT RID OF ME. THEY DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF ME.
THEY CUT ALL RELATIONSHIP THAT I COULD POSSIBLY HAVE WITH MY BIRTH FAMILY, AND THEY SHIPPED ME OVERSEAS.
I BECAME A PACKAGE FOR THEM. >> TO THIS DAY, THE CHURCH INSISTS THE ORPHAN PROGRAM WAS THE ONLY CHANCE FOR A NEW LIFE
FOR THESE CHILDREN. LAURINO TOLD US MONSIGNOR LANDI, WHO RAN THE PROGRAM, DIED IN 1999 WITHOUT EVER EXPRESSING ANY
REGRETS. >> I THINK THAT HE BELIEVED IN THE MERIT OF THE PROGRAM, THAT THEY WERE BRINGING CHILDREN TO
GOOD CATHOLIC HOMES AND THAT THESE CHILDREN WOULD BE RAISED WELL IN THE UNITED STATES. >> HOW DOES THAT EXPLANATION SIT
WITH YOU NOW? >> TERRIBLY. I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WOMEN WERE TREATED.
AND THIS IS WHY I THINK OF THEM AS DISPOSABLE WOMEN. >> DISPOSABLE? >> YEAH.
IT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO GIVE UP YOUR CHILD. BUT NOBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT THESE WOMEN THEN.
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> AMERICAN ADOPTEE MARY RELOTTO TRAVELS OFTEN TO ITALY TO SEE
HER BIRTH FAMILY. SHE TOLD US SHE HAD A HAPPY LIFE GROWING UP IN OHIO, BUT SAID SHE LONGED FOR A LARGE FAMILY, ONLY
TO FIND OUT SHE HAD ONE. IT WAS 1992 WHEN SHE FIRST MET ANNA MARIA, HER BIRTH MOTHER. >> THE ONLY THING I COULD DO WAS
STARE AND LOOK AT EVERY INCH OF HER FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR. >> AND YOU'RE DUMBFOUNDED. >> NOT ONLY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE
ME, BUT SHE ACTS LIKE ME. I ACT LIKE HER. WE'RE THE SAME WEIGHT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS IS MY TWIN
BUT OLDER. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN I GET OLDER. SO, NOW I PAY ATTENTION TO MY
HEALTH. >> MOTHER AND DAUGHTER SAY THEY'RE STILL LEARNING ABOUT EACH OTHER.
RELOTTO TOLD US IT WAS YEARS BEFORE SHE COULD ASK THE MOST PAINFUL QUESTION OF ALL, WHY WAS SHE GIVEN AWAY?
>> I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW HER STORY, HER TRUTH, BECAUSE NO MOTHER GIVES UP THEIR CHILD SO WILLINGLY WITHOUT GRIEF.
>> DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND WHY SHE GAVE YOU UP? >> BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A PIECE OF BREAD, SHE SAID, TO
GIVE US. >> POVERTY. >> SHE DIDN'T HAVE CLOTHES FOR US.
SHE WAS IN A DESPERATE SITUATION, YOU KNOW? SO, INSTEAD OF THE CHURCH HELPING HER MAINTAIN A HOUSE AND
FEED HER CHILDREN, INSTEAD, THEY -- THEY TOOK HER CHILDREN. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ]
>> ANNA MARIA IS NOW 83. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> SHE AGREED TO SPEAK WITH US
IF WE WITHHELD HER LAST NAME. EVEN DECADES LATER, THE STIGMA OF HAVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK REMAINS.
SHE TOLD US ABOUT HER OTHER CHILD, CHRISTIAN, WHO WAS SENT TO A CHURCH-RUN INSTITUTION WHEN SHE BECAME ILL.
BUT WHEN SHE WENT TO PICK HIM UP, SHE SAYS THE NUNS TOLD HER HE HAD DIED. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL
LANGUAGE ] I WENT INTO DEPRESSION, ANNA MARIA TOLD US. I SEARCHED FOR HIM EVERYWHERE.
HOW DID HE DIE? WHERE WAS HE BURIED? NOBODY COULD TELL ME. >> DOUBID YOU BELIEVE THAT YOURN
WAS DEAD? [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] SOMETHING INSIDE ME DIDN'T FEEL
RIGHT, BUT I COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. BUT CHRISTIAN HAD NOT DIED. HE TOLD US HE LEARNED THE TRUTH
ABOUT HIS MOTHER AT AGE 40. ANNA MARIA SAYS THE CHURCH HAD PUT HIM UP FOR ADOPTION WITHOUT TELLING HER.
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] IT WAS A SWINDLE, SHE TOLD US. THEY STOLE A CHILD THAT THEY
WANTED. SO, WHAT WAS IT LIKE FOR YOU WHEN YOU FOUND THAT CHRISTIAN WAS, IN FACT, ALIVE?
[ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] I HAD NO WORDS, SHE TOLD US. THERE WERE LOTS OF TEARS AND
HUGS. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] THE VATICAN'S ORPHAN PROGRAM
ENDED IN 1970, BUT THE FALLOUT CONTINUES, RIPPLING ACROSS GENERATIONS. MARY RELOTTO TOLD US SHE NEVER
SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO AMERICA. >> I THINK THE CHURCH CONVINCED HER THAT IT WAS THE BEST THING
FOR HER. SO, INSTEAD OF HELPING HER, IT WAS BETTER FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY SELLING BABIES.
THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF. YOU KNOW? AM I ANGRY AT THE CHURCH? HELL YEAH, I AM.
I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT LIFE TOO. AND WHILE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT, I STILL WOULD HAVE
SURVIVED IT WITHOUT THIS KIND OF GRIEF THAT I HAVE INSIDE OF ME NOW. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ]
>>> WITH ALL THE SUBTLETY OF THE KOOL-AID MAN CRASHING THROUGH A WALL, STEVE BALLMER ENTERED THE
NBA IN 2014. AFTER A RUN AS MICROSOFT CEO, BALLMER BOUGHT THE LOUSY L.A. CLIPPERS FOR THE, HAS HE LOST
HIS MIND PRICE OF $2 BILLION. SINCE THEN, THE FRANCHISE'S VALUE HAS MORE THAN DOUBLE. THE CLIPPERS HAVEN'T HAD A
LOSING SEASON. BALLMER HAS SEEN HIS NET WORTH SOAR NORTH OF $120 BILLION. AND HIS FULL THROATED PASSION
FOR THE TEAM, IT'S DIMINISHED NOT AT ALL. THIS MONTH THE CLIPPERS CHRISTENED A NEW HOME, THE
INTUIT DOME. THE OWNER IS CONVINCED THE ARENA WILL HELP VAULT THE CLIPPERS OVER THE LAKERS, AND EVENTUALLY,
HE VOWS, TO AN NBA TITLE. >> THE STARTING FIVE -- >> AUGUST IS SUPPOSED TO BE A QUIET TIME IN THE NBA.
BUT QUIET IS A RELATIVE TERM FOR STEVE BALLMER. >> COME ON, CLIPPER NATION! >> I WANT TO FEEL THE ENERGY OF
THE FANS. WE WANT THEM IN THEIR SEATS. WE WANT PEOPLE MAKING NOISE. >> BALLMER WAS GIVING US AN
EARLY LOOK AT THE ARENA HE BUILT FOR THE L.A. CLIPPERS. AMONG THE BILLIONAIRES WHO OWN U.S. PRO SPORTS FRANCHISES,
BALLMER, NOW 68, IS THE WEALTHIEST BY FAR. NEVER MIND BUYING THE TEAM, HE ALSO SPENT MORE THAN $2 BILLION
ON THIS NEW VENUE. >> THAT'S GOING TO HELP WIN BASKETBALL GAMES. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT ATMOSPHERE
AND I HAD A FUN TIME. WILL IT REALLY HELP? >> I CAN'T PROMISE, BUT EVERYTHING IN MY INSTINCT SAYS
IT WILL HELP OUR TEAM, OUR BASKETBALL TEAM, IF OUR CROWD TEAM CAN REALLY GET INTO IT AND GIVE THEM ENERGY.
>> AS A FAN, I'M THINKING, WAIT A MINUTE -- >> GIVE THEM ENERGY MIGHT WELL BE BALLMER'S CATCH PHRASE.
HIS ENTHUSIASM PREDATES HIS OWNERSHIP, GOING BACK TO HIS DAYS AT MICROSOFT. IT'S HIS PERSONAL EXPRESSION AND
THE WAY TO LET HIS TEAM KNOW HE'S WITH THEM. >> IT TELLS THEM, HEY, HE WILL SUPPORT US.
WHEN IT'S SHOWTIME, HE'LL BE THERE TO HELP SUPPORT US. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> I'M SURE THE PLAYERS HAVE
THAT, GOD, THIS GUY SEEMS A LITTLE BIT NUTS. THAT'S OKAY. >> YOU SAY YOU SWEAT AS MUCH
OWNING THIS TEAM AS YOU DID RUNNING MICROSOFT. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. >> LET ME SAY, A LITTLE
DIFFERENT SWEAT. I RAN MICROSOFT. I GREW UP WITH THE PLACE. I HELPED SHAPE THE PLACE.
I KNEW WHERE ALL THE BODIES WERE BURIED, SO TO -- OR MOST OF THE BODIES WERE BURIED. YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IT WAS MY
BUTT ON THE LINE. SO, I SWEATED MORE AT MICROSOFT. BUT I DON'T WORRY ANY LESS AT THE CLIPPERS.
AND I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE REVENUE AND THE DAY TO DAY. WINNING. I DO WORRY ABOUT WINNING.
>> IF OWNERS COULD BE CALLED FOR TRAVELING, WELL BALLMER HAS COME AN IMPOSSIBLY LONG WAY FROM HIS CHILDHOOD AS A SHY, ANXIOUS KID.
HIS FATHER, A SWISS IMMIGRANT, WORKED A MID LEVEL JOB AT FORD. BALLMER WENT TO HARVARD, WHERE HE MANAGED THE FOOTBALL TEAM AND
STRUCK UP A FRIENDSHIP WITH BILL GATES. GATES DROPPED OUT TO START A SOFTWARE COMPANY.
BALLMER WENT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, SALES AND MARKETING. >> MY FIRST DAY AT PROCTER & GAMBLE, I WAS VERY, VERY SHY,
VERY NERVOUS. AND A GUY WHO BECAME MY FRIEND AND ROOMMATE SAID, MEETING ME THAT FIRST DAY WAS LIKE THIS.
HI, MY NAME'S STEVE BALLMER. MY PALMS ARE SWEATING, BUT DON'T WORRY. I'M OKAY.
>> DID I GET THIS RIGHT? YOU WERE SELLING CAKE MIX? >> DUNKIN' HINES BROWNIE MIX, BLUEBERRY MUFFIN MIX, AND MOIST
N' EASY SNACK CAKE MIX TO BE PRECISE, JON. >> BROWNIE MIX WAS NOT HIS CALLING.
SO, BALLMER WENT TO BUSINESS SCHOOL. IN 1980 HE WAS MIDWAY THROUGH HIS FIRST YEAR WHEN --
>> I GET A CALL FROM BILL THAT SAYS, HEY, HOW YOU DOING? HEY, WHAT ARE YOU -- OH, YEAH, YOU GOT ANOTHER YEAR TO GO.
TOO BAD. >> HE'S TRYING TO RECRUIT YOU? >> HE'S TRYING TO RECRUIT ME. BUT SOFTWARE FOR MICROCOMPUTERS,
IT WAS NOT A THING AT THE TIME IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. >> BUT GATES WAS CONVINCING, AND BALLMER LEFT SCHOOL TO JOIN HIS
PAL'S CHAOTIC STARTUP. GATES WAS THE LEAD ENGINEER. BALLMER STEERED THE BUSINESS. HIS SALARY, $40,000, PLUS A 9%
STAKE IN THE COMPANY. UNDERSTATEMENT, THAT STAKE PAID OFF, AS MICROSOFT WENT ON TO BECOME, WELL, MICROSOFT.
TOGETHER, GATES AND BALLMER PERSONIFIED THE COMPANY. SMART, AMBITIOUS, MAYBE A LITTLE NERDY, NOT ALWAYS USER FRIENDLY.
>> WE WERE TOLD THESE GUYS ARE COLLEGE BUDDIES. THEY COULD ALSO FIGHT. THEY COULD ARGUE.
SOMETIMES IT WAS LIKE VERBAL KNIFE FIGHTS. YOU REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE? >> OH, YEAH.
BILL AND I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOME KNOCKDOWN DRAGGOUT FIGHTS, ARGUMENTS. >> WINNING RECORD?
>> MY TECHNIQUE BECAME MORE KEEP ON HARPING, HARPING, HARPING ON THE STUFF I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT AS OPPOSED TO TRY TO
KNOCK HIM DOWN AND DRIVE MY POINT ACROSS. >> IN 2000, BALLMER TOOK OVER AS CEO.
REMEMBER THE SHY KID? EARLY IN HIS CAREER, BALLMER LEARNED TO GET OVER HIS NERVES BY CRANKING UP ROD STEWART IN
HIS CAR AND GIVING HIMSELF LOUD PEP TALKS. HERE HE IS DOING THE SAME FOR THOUSANDS OF SOFTWARE ENGINEERS.
>> DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS. >> SHIRT SOAKING ENTHUSIASM
BECAME HIS TRADEMARK AND AN INTERNET MEME. >> WHO WAS THAT GUY? >> THAT'S A GUY WHO REALLY
WANTED TO FIRE PEOPLE UP. TO SAY, HEY, WE LOVE YOU. WE WANT YOU TO WRITE SOFTWARE FOR WINDOWS.
WE WILL SUPPORT YOU. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU. MY EXPRESSION TO THAT -- LET'S
JUST PUT IT THIS WAY. I LOOK BACK AT IT NOW, IT'S A LITTLE EMBARRASSING. >> I PERSONALLY FEED OFF ENERGY.
AND IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S CUP OF TEA, BY THE WAY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE QUIETER.
BUT IT'S ME. >> IF MICROSOFT'S PRODUCTS MIRRORED ITS LEADERS, FUNCTION OVER FORM, SOMETIMES THAT WAS TO
THE COMPANY'S DETRIMENT. BALLMER FAMOUSLY FAILED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY THE CHALLENGE OF APPLE'S iPHONE, LAUGHING AT THE
IDEA IN 2007. >> THE THAT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PHONE IN THE WORLD AND IT DOESN'T APPEAL TO BUSINESS
CUSTOMERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A KEYBOARD. GOSH, DARN IT. THE PHONE, MAN, THE PHONE.
WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PHONE. >> WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PHONE? >> THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
THINGS. WE HAD A LOT OF OUR TALENTD ENGINEERS TIED UP ELSEWHERE. NUMBER TWO, WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT
AS TOO MUCH LIKE WHAT WE HAD DONE WITH WINDOWS. IT DIDN'T REALLY -- WASN'T GOING TO WORK.
WE HAD TO HAVE DIFFERENT THINKING EARLIER ON. >> AND YET DURING BALLMER'S TENURE AS CEO, REVENUE MORE THAN
TRIPLED. HE HUNG ON TO MOST OF HIS STOCK AND TODAY IS CONSISTENTLY RANKED AMONG THE WORLD'S TEN WEALTHIEST
BILLIONAIRES. NOT THAT YOU WOULD KNOW IT. HE HAS NO SUPERYACHT, NO NEW WARDROBE, NO NEW SPOUSE.
HE AND HIS WIFE, CONNIE, RAISED THREE BOYS IN A FOUR BEDROOM OUTSIDE SEATTLE, WHERE THEY STILL LIVE.
THROUGH FAMILY PHILANTHROPY, THEY'VE GIVEN AWAY NEAR A BILLION DOLLARS IN THE LAST TEN MONTHS ALONE AND SPENT MILLIONS
MORE ON A SIDE PROJECT, THE NON-PARTISAN USA FACTS WHICH HELPS AMERICANS MAKE INFORMED POLITICAL DECISIONS.
AND FRIENDS SAY THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY WHO STILL COMPLAINS ABOUT THE COST OF THE HOTEL MINIBAR. >> HOW DOES WEALTH LIKE YOU HAVE
OF THAT SCALE, HOW DOES THAT NOT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE YOU? >> LOOK, I AM FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED.
I KNOW I AM. I'VE BEEN CATERED TO AS CEO OF MICROSOFT. FRGET MONEY, WHEN YOU'RE THE
LEAD JOB IN A COMPANY, PEOPLE CATER TO YOU. SO I GET CATERED TO. CAN I STILL HAVE FUN IN OLD
STYLE WAYS? DO I HAVE TO BE A JERK TO PEOPLE? NO.
I DON'T NEED TO DO THOSE THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, OH, DID YOU ALWAYS WANT TO OWN A BASKETBALL TEAM WHEN YOU WERE
GROWING UP? OF COURSE NOT. WHO THE HECK EVER THINKS THEY'RE GOING TO GET ENOUGH MONEY TO OWN
A BASKETBALL TEAM? >> THE BASKETBALL TEAM. BALLMER CONCEDES ITS HIS BILLIONAIRES EXTRAVAGANCE.
HE'S LOVED HOOPS SINCE CHILDHOOD AND IN 2014, JUST MONTHS AFTER BALLMER ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT FROM MICROSOFT, THE CLIPPERS'
PREVIOUS OWNER, STERLING WAS CAUGHT ON TAPE IN A RACIST TIRADE. FOLLOWING PLAYER REVOLT,
STERLING WAS FORCED TO SELL THE TEAM. IN POSITION FOR THE REBOUND, SO TO SPEAK, BALLMER BOUGHT THE
LOWLY CLIPPERS FOR ALMOST FOUR TIMES THE PRICE OF THE PREVIOUS NBA TEAM SELL. >> IF THIS WAS A DISTRESSED
ASSET AT THE TIME, OWNER MAKES RACIST STATEMENTS, BASICALLY FORCED TO SELL, HE DIDN'T PAY DISTRESSED ASSET PRICES, DID
YOU? >> BECAUSE IT REALLY WASN'T A DISTRESSED ASSET IN THE FOLLOWING SENSE.
IT'S AN NBA TEAM. THERE'S 30 OF THEM. IT'S IN THE BEST MARKET, ONE OF THE COUPLE BEST MARKETS.
THAT'S -- YOU COULD SAY IT'S DISTRESSED, BUT YOU CAN'T FIND THEM ANYWHERE ELSE. LAKERS ARE TOP BANANA IN THIS
TOWN AS FAR AS BASKETBALL TEAMS. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> IT'S A FACT THEY WON WHATEVER IT IS, 17 CHAMPIONSHIPS.
WE'VE NOT WON ONE. I GET THAT. BUT AM I OKAY WITH IT? NO, OF COURSE NOT.
DO I TAKE IT AS A CHALLENGE? YES. ARE WE GOING TO GET AFTER IT? YES.
EVERY DAY WE GET AFTER IT. >> BALLMER HAS PUMPED MONEY INTO UPGRADING THE CLIPPERS ROSTER, SIGNING STARS LIKE JAMES HARDEN
AND KAWHI LEONARD, WHO PRAISED THEIR NEW BOSS. BUT THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO SUCCESS BALLMER FOUND, THE
CLIPPERS DIDN'T HAVE A HOME. SINCE THE '90s, THE TEAM BASICALLY RENTED OUT THE LAKERS ARENA IN DOWNTOWN L.A.
BALLMER DECIDED TO BUILD SOUTHWEST OF DOWNTOWN IN LESS FASHIONABLE ENGELWOOD. THE OWNER WAS INVOLVED IN
EVERY -- AND WE MEAN EVERY -- DETAIL. >> TOILETS! 1,160 TOILETS AND URINALS.
>> CAN YOU SHOW ME TOILETS? >> WE'VE GOT 1,400 OF THEM. >> I REALLY HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE WAIT IN LINE.
WAITING IN LINE FOR TOILETS, I THINK, IS -- IT STOPS PEOPLE FROM GETTING BACK INTO THE GAME. PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED.
>> WE'LL SPARE YOU THAT PORCELAIN TOUR, BUT THERE IS A METHOD HERE. GET FANS IN THEIR SEATS OR OUT
OF THEM TO WATCH THE DAMN GAME. NO LINES, NO CASH REGISTERS. EVERYTHING HERE IS CONTACTLESS. NOT EVEN A SPORTS BAR.
EVEN THE SWEETS ARE BARE BONES. THE OWNER COMES TO WATCH BASKETBALL, NOT TO SCHMOOZE, AND FANS SHOULD TOO.
>> OUR SCORE BOARD, THE HALO BOARD. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT
TERRANCE MAN. >> PART OF THE PHILOSOPHY, BUILD IT NICE. TODAY'S OPPONENTS ARE TOMORROW'S
FREE AGENTS. BUT ALSO BUILD THE KIND OF ARENA THAT REFLECTS THE OWNER. TECH IS DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT BUT
MOSTLY TO ENCOURAGE BALLMER LEVEL FANDOM. >> WE HAVE SENSORS AROUND THE BUILDING THAT CAN TELL DOWN TO
THE INDIVIDUAL SEAT LEVEL HOW LOUD YOU ARE. NOW, WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION.
BUT LET'S SAY WE SAY, OKAY, FOR THIS GAME, THE PERSON WHO PRODUCES THE MOST DECIBELS THE MOST CONSISTENTLY WILL GET A
FREE HAMBURGER THE NEXT GAME. >> IF YOU CHEER LOUD ENOUGH, THE SECURITY WILL SAY, THERE IT IS, THE LOUDEST GUY.
>> THE OWNER IS CONVINCED THE MORE ENERGY, THE MORE POINTS THE CLIPPERS PUT UP. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORTERS
UP THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT -- >> YOU WANT ME TO SHOOT? >> WHY DON'T YOU SHOOT THAT BALL.
NO TIME TO WARM UP. TOTALL UNFAIR. FOR 60 MINUTES! LET ME SEE IF I CAN MAKE ONE.
YOU HAVE A LITTLE GAME THERE, MAN. PATHETIC. >> BALLMER IS QUICK TO CONCEDE
HIS HIGHEST LEVEL OF BASKETBALL WAS NINTH GRADE, NO CUTS. >> THERE YOU GO. >> THERE YOU GO.
THAT'S NOT A GOOD FREE THROW SHOOTING PERCENTAGE. >> IT'S DIFFERENT FROM RUNNING MICROSOFT, A COMPANY WITH
REVENUES THAT ARE 20 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE ENTIRE NBA. BUT BALLMER SAYS HE'S HAVING MORE FUN IN THIS JOB, IN PART
BECAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO MEASURE PERFORMANCE. >> PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSINESS AND
BASKETBALL? WELL, IF YOU HAVE A BAD QUARTER, YOU CAN SAY, I'LL GET THEM NEXT TIME.
OR YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE GOT GOING ON IN THE LABS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. HERE, EVERY 24 SECONDS, YOU GET
A SCORECARD. DID WE SCORE? DID WE STOP THEM FROM SCORING? EVERY 24 SECONDS.
AT THE END OF THE GAME, IF YOU LOSE IT, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE IT. EVERY SEASON, WHEN IT'S DONE,
IT'S DONE. NOW, THE NICE THING IS YOU ALSO GET TO RESET EVERY YEAR. AND THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S
PRETTY COOL. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] . >>> NOW STEVE AND CONNIE BALLMER
ARE GIVING AWAY BILLIONS. >> EVERY KID DESERVES A SHOT. >> AT [ STOPWATCH TICKING ]
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