1 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:16,216 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> NOW WE HAVE THIS STUPID STUFF WHERE YOU CAN VOTE 45 DAYS EARLY. 2 00:00:16,282 --> 00:00:22,355 I WONDER WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS DURING THAT 45. LET'S MOVE THE VOTES, GOT ABOUT A MILLION VOTES. 3 00:00:22,422 --> 00:00:28,128 LET'S MOVE THEM. >> HE SEEMS TO BE SAYING THAT THERE IS CHEATING GOING ON WITH MAIL-IN BALLOTS HERE. 4 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:35,735 >> THERE IS NOT. ELECTIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE SAFE AND SECURE, WITH A VOTER VERIFIED PAPER 5 00:00:35,802 --> 00:00:46,679 BALLOT RECORD OF EVERY VOTE THAT'S CAST, WHETHER YOU VOTE IN PERSON ON ELECTION DAY OR YOU VOTE BY MAIL. 6 00:00:46,746 --> 00:00:52,652 [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >>> MARY LAURINO GREW UP LONGING FOR A LARGE FAMILY, ONLY TO 7 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:59,292 LEARN SHE HAD ONE IN ITALY. IT WAS YEARS BEFORE SHE COULD ASK HER BIRTH MOTHER THE MOST PAINFUL QUESTION OF ALL. 8 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:06,332 WHY WAS SHE GIVEN AWAY? >> THE CHURCH CONVINCED HER THAT IT WAS THE BEST THING FOR HER. SO, INSTEAD OF HELPING HER, IT 9 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:11,204 WAS BETTER FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY SELLING BABIES. SO, AM I ANGRY AT THE CHURCH? HELL YEAH. 10 00:01:11,271 --> 00:01:23,349 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> COME ON! >> AMONG THE BILLIONAIRES WHO OWN U.S. PRO SPORTS FRANCHISES, 11 00:01:23,416 --> 00:01:30,690 STEVE BALLMER IS THE WEALTHIEST BY FAR. HE BOUGHT THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS FOR $2 BILLION AND JUST 12 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:38,031 SPENT ANOTHER 2 BILLION PLUS BUILDING THIS PLACE. JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR ABOUT THE BATHROOMS. 13 00:01:38,097 --> 00:01:40,200 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. 14 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:47,373 >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. 15 00:01:47,440 --> 00:02:01,154 THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES." >>> PENNSYLVANIA IS THE MOST PIVOTAL BATTLEGROUND IN THE RACE 16 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:06,659 FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. WITH ITS 19 ELECTORAL VOTES, IT IS THE STATE WHERE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE 17 00:02:06,726 --> 00:02:14,567 PRESIDENT HARRIS ARE SPENDING THE MOST TIME AND MONEY, A COMBINED $436 MILLION BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR ALLIES. 18 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:21,274 IT'S ALSO WHERE THE RESULTS COULD TAKE DAYS TO COUNT, DUE TO A STATE LAW THAT PREVENTS MAIL-IN BALLOTS FROM BEING 19 00:02:21,341 --> 00:02:27,680 PROCESSED EARLY. THE ANTICIPATED LAG, WHICH DRAGGED OUT PENNSYLVANIA'S COUNT IN 2020, NOW HAS ELECTION 20 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:36,189 OFFICIALS BRACING FOR A REPEAT OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND VIOLENCE. AT THE HELM, LIFELONG REPUBLICAN 21 00:02:36,256 --> 00:02:41,094 AL SCHMIDT. HE STOOD UP TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REFUSED TO JOIN ATTEMPTS TO OVERTURN HIS LOSS 22 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:48,134 FOUR YEARS AGO. AS SECRETARY OF STATE, SCHMIDT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY TO 23 00:02:48,201 --> 00:02:55,775 ASSURE RESIDENTS THEIR VOTES WILL COUNT AND TO TAKE ON THE LIES TRUMP CONTINUES TO SPREAD ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA. 24 00:02:55,842 --> 00:03:05,818 >> WHAT'S THE REALITY? VOTER FRAUD IS WIDESPREAD, VOTER FRAUD NEVER HAPPENS? >> THERE IS NO EVIDENCE 25 00:03:05,885 --> 00:03:12,625 WHATSOEVER THAT VOTER FRAUD TAKES PLACE IN ANY WAY THAT IS WIDESPREAD AT ALL. >> IF A NON-CITIZEN TRIED TO 26 00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:17,664 CAST A BALLOT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CATCH IT? >> THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WHEN IT 27 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:25,805 GETS IDENTIFIED, THERE ARE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES, WHETHER IT'S PROSECUTION AND/OR DEPORTATION FROM THE COUNTRY. 28 00:03:25,872 --> 00:03:33,913 >> WE MET SECRETARY OF STATE AL SCHMIDT LAST MONTH IN THE STATE CAPITOL IN HARRISBURG. >> WE HAVE TO WIN PENNSYLVANIA. 29 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:41,955 >> THE NIGHT BEFORE, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HELD A RALLY JUST A FEW HOURS AWAY, WHERE HE STOKES FEARS ABOUT VOTING IN 30 00:03:42,021 --> 00:03:45,792 PENNSYLVANIA. >> NOW WE HAVE THIS STUPID STUFF WHERE YOU CAN VOTE 45 DAYS EARLY. 31 00:03:45,858 --> 00:03:53,933 I WONDER WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS DURING THAT 45. LET'S MOVE THE -- WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MILLION VOTES IN THERE. 32 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,072 LET'S MOVE THEM. >> HAVE YOU HEARD WHAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAID LAST NIGHT AT HIS RALLY HERE IN 33 00:03:59,138 --> 00:04:04,210 PENNSYLVANIA? >> NO. >> HE SEEMS TO BE SAYING THERE IS CHEATING GOING ON WITH 34 00:04:04,277 --> 00:04:09,749 MAIL-IN BALLOTS HERE. >> THERE IS NOT. ELECTIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE SAFE AND SECURE, 35 00:04:09,816 --> 00:04:17,290 WITH A VOTER VERIFIED PAPER BALLOT RECORD OF EVERY VOTE THAT'S CAST, WHETHER YOU VOTE IN PERSON ON ELECTION DAY OR YOU 36 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:23,763 VOTE BY MAIL. >> SCHMIDT ONCE HAD HIS OWN DOUBTS ABOUT ELECTION SECURITY. BEFORE BECOMING SECRETARY OF 37 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:30,903 STATE, HE SPENT A DECADE ON PHILADELPHIA'S BOARD OF ELECTIONS, WHERE HE INVESTIGATED HUNDREDS OF CLAIMS OF VOTER 38 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:40,880 FRAUD AND CHANGED HIS MIND. >> WHENEVER IT HAS OCCURRED, HOWEVER RARELY, IT'S TO AFFECT SOME VERY DOWN-TICKET RACE THAT 39 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:45,918 IS DECIDED BY A HANDFUL OF VOTES. IT'S NOT TO DECIDE WHO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 40 00:04:45,985 --> 00:04:52,892 OR WHO THE GOVERNOR IS OR WHO A SENATOR IS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. >> AS SECRETARY OF STATE, 41 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:58,665 SCHMIDT IS VISITING EACH OF PENNSYLVANIA'S 67 COUNTIES. >> ARE YOU REGISTERED TO VOTE IN PENNSYLVANIA? 42 00:04:58,731 --> 00:05:05,405 YOUR VOICE MATTERS. >> PART SHOW, PART PUBLIC RELATIONS TOUR, SPREADING THE GOSPEL OF ELECTION SECURITY. 43 00:05:05,471 --> 00:05:13,780 >> ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 5th. YOU CAN VOTE BY MAIL IN ADVANCE. >> INCLUDING A STOP AT A FAIR IN DEEP RED COLUMBIA COUNTY. 44 00:05:13,846 --> 00:05:18,851 >> NICE TO MEET YOU. >> HE SPENT MORE THAN 35 MINUTES TRYING TO CONVINCE THESE LOCAL REPUBLICANS THAT THEY CAN TRUST 45 00:05:18,918 --> 00:05:27,694 THE VOTING SYSTEM. >> YOU HAVE A PUBLIC RECORD OF WHEN SOMEBODY DIES. YOU HAVE PUBLIC RECORD WHEN THEY 46 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:35,802 CAST THEIR VOTE. >> THERE ARE CASES PEOPLE HAVE VOTED. >> ONLY CASES I HAVE ENCOUNTERED 47 00:05:35,868 --> 00:05:44,277 ARE WHEN A VOTER HAS CAST THEIR BALLOT BY MAIL AND THEN PASSED AWAY IN BETWEEN MAILING IN THEIR VOTE AND THEIR VOTE BEING 48 00:05:44,343 --> 00:05:49,549 COUNTED. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT. >> TRUMP'S GOT THE RALLIES AND HE'S GOT THE MICROPHONE AND HE'S 49 00:05:49,615 --> 00:05:56,989 GOT THE AUDIENCES, AND HE CAN SPREAD HIS MESSAGE TO THOUSANDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. AND YOU'RE HERE AT THE COUNTY 50 00:05:57,056 --> 00:06:05,431 FAIR AND YOU'VE GOT TO STAND AND YOU'RE DOING IT ONE TO THREE VOTERS AT A TIME. >> YES, ONE AT A TIMING IT. 51 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:12,371 >> YOU, KIND OF, CAN'T COMPETE. >> BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT ONE-ON-ONE CONTACT, TO GO TO A COUNTY FAIR, TO ENGAGE 52 00:06:12,438 --> 00:06:21,981 WITH PEOPLE, TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. >> I LOVE YOU, PHILLY! >> DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR JOSH 53 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:29,455 SHAPIRO TOLD US THAT CHOOSING AL SCHMIDT, A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN, AS HIS FIRST CABINET PICK LAST YEAR WAS INTENDED TO SEND A 54 00:06:29,522 --> 00:06:34,927 CLEAR MESSAGE. >> OF ALL THE CABINET APPOINTMENTS THAT YOU COULD HAVE MADE FIRST, WHY WAS IT AL 55 00:06:34,994 --> 00:06:41,334 SCHMIDT? >> I MADE A COMMITMENT DURING MY CAMPAIGN THAT I WAS GOING TO APPOINT A PRO-DEMOCRACY 56 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,938 SECRETARY OF STATE. >> WHAT WERE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS TO HIM? >> DO YOUR JOB. 57 00:06:46,005 --> 00:06:54,113 MAKE IT SO LEGAL, ELIGIBLE VOTERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE BALLOT BOX AND THAT WE, AGAIN, HAVE A FREE AND FAIR, SAFE AND SECURE 58 00:06:54,180 --> 00:07:02,488 ELECTION. >> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SECRETARIES OF STATE, THE ROLE, YOU TEND TO THINK THAT IT, 59 00:07:02,555 --> 00:07:09,195 RESPECTFULLY, IS A BORING JOB, A MUNDANE JOB, AN ADMINISTRATIVE JOB. HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT FOR YOU? 60 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:17,103 >> IT IS. I MEAN, ELECTIONS SHOULD BE NOT SOMETHING TO DREAD. THEY SHOULD BE SOMETHING TO 61 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:22,508 CELEBRATE. AND VOTERS SHOULD FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IF THEY CAST THEIR VOTE, WHETHER IT'S BY MAIL OR IN 62 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:26,913 PERSON ON ELECTION DAY, THAT THEIR VOTE IS GOING TO BE COUNTED. >> SO, IN 2020, IT TOOK FOUR 63 00:07:26,979 --> 00:07:32,919 DAYS TO CALL THE ELECTION IN PENNSYLVANIA. WHAT TOOK SO LONG? >> WHEN YOU HAVE HALF OF YOUR 64 00:07:32,985 --> 00:07:43,729 VOTERS VOTE BY MAIL LIKE WE DID IN 2020, COUNTING THOSE VOTES TAKES TIME. >> WE SAW FOR OURSELVES AT A 65 00:07:43,796 --> 00:07:52,104 BALLOT INTAKE CENTER IN CHESTER COUNTY OUTSIDE PHILADELPHIA. >> THIS IS THE ACTUAL -- >> AND THIS IS A SAMPLE. 66 00:07:52,171 --> 00:08:01,848 >> ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR KAREN BARSOUM SHOWED US HOW EACH BALLOT ARRIVES INSIDE TWO DIFFERENT ENVELOPES. 67 00:08:01,914 --> 00:08:07,386 PROCESSING THEM IS A TEDIOUS TASK, WHICH UNDER PENNSYLVANIA LAW, CANNOT START UNTIL 7:00 A.M. ON ELECTION DAY. 68 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:15,161 >> SO, WHEN WE DO OPEN THIS, THERE IS ANOTHER ENVELOPE. SO, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF WE HAVE 100,000 MAIL-IN BALLOTS 69 00:08:15,228 --> 00:08:22,034 WERKS HAVE TO DEAL WITH DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ENVELOPES, WHICH IS A LONG PROCESS. AND THEN THE BALLOTS COME OUT. 70 00:08:22,101 --> 00:08:27,573 >> AND YOU CAN'T COUNT IT FOLDED LIKE THAT? >> CORRECT. WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A WHOLE 71 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:34,547 DIFFERENT SEAM, UNFOLD THEM, BACK FOLD THEM, TO GET THE CREASES OUT AS GOOD AS WE CAN. >> HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO 72 00:08:34,614 --> 00:08:41,888 PROCESS EACH BALLOT? >> SEVERAL MINUTES. IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT, LIKE, DONE IN A SEC. 73 00:08:41,954 --> 00:08:49,595 >> THAT WINDOW OF TIME BETWEEN THE POLLS CLOSING AND RACES BEING CALLED I THINK IS SHOWN TO BE A REAL VULNERABILITY, WHERE 74 00:08:49,662 --> 00:08:57,870 PEOPLE SEEKING TO UNDERMINE CONFIDENCE IN THOSE RESULTS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE, HAVE REALLY EXPLOITED. 75 00:08:57,937 --> 00:09:06,579 >> THOSE FOUR DAYS ALLOWED THE BIG LIE TO TAKE OFF. >> AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START HEARING ABOUT TRUCK LOADS OF 76 00:09:06,646 --> 00:09:10,650 BALLOTS. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU START HEARING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ZOMBIE VOTERS. 77 00:09:10,716 --> 00:09:17,056 THAT'S WHEN ALL THIS OTHER STUFF REALLY STARTS POURING IN. >> THERE HAVE BEEN WIDESPREAD CALLS TO BRING PENNSYLVANIA IN 78 00:09:17,123 --> 00:09:25,031 LINE WITH THE MAJORITY OF OTHER STATES, WHERE ELECTION WORKERS GET A HEAD START ON OPENING ENVELOPES AND FLATTENING BALLOTS 79 00:09:25,097 --> 00:09:31,871 AHEAD OF ELECTION DAY. >> WHY HASN'T THAT CHANGED? YOU HAD FOUR YEARS, PENNSYLVANIA. 80 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:36,242 >> PENNSYLVANIA'S UNIQUE IN THAT WE HAVE A DIVIDED LEGISLATURE. WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE AND A REPUBLICAN SENATE. 81 00:09:36,309 --> 00:09:43,783 SO, GETTING ANYTHING DONE RELATED TO ELECTION REFORM HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A CHALLENGE. >> THE MESSAGE IS WHAT? 82 00:09:43,849 --> 00:09:50,256 BE PATIENT WITH PENNSYLVANIA. >> THE MESSAGE IS, PLEASE BE PATIENT. OUR COUNTIES ARE WORKING NIGHT 83 00:09:50,323 --> 00:09:58,030 AND DAY TO COUNT THEIR VOTERS' VOTES. THEY'RE DOING SO AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN AND WITH INTEGRITY. 84 00:09:58,097 --> 00:10:04,904 OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CONSTANTLY JUST PROVIDING THE TRUTH TO VOTERS. >> FOR SECRETARY SCHMIDT, 85 00:10:04,971 --> 00:10:11,911 GETTING OUT THE MESSAGE CAN MEAN LATE NIGHTS ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELECTORAL PROCESS IN GRANULAR DETAIL. 86 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:18,117 >> IT TAKES TIME TO COUNT MILLIONS OF VOTES. >> AS WE SAW AT THIS LAW SCHOOL IN HARRISBURG. 87 00:10:18,184 --> 00:10:26,692 >> WE'RE MUCH BETTER PREPARED TODAY FOUR YEARS LATER THAN WE WERE. >> HE'S TEAMED UP WITH FELLOW 88 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:31,931 REPUBLICAN, TOM CORBETT. >> THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS A REFRAIN AT HIS RALLIES. HE SAYS DEMOCRATS RIGGED THE 89 00:10:31,998 --> 00:10:39,305 ELECTION IN 2020, AND HE'S NOT GOING TO LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT THIS YEAR. >> EVIDENCE. 90 00:10:39,372 --> 00:10:43,876 BRING IT. ANY U.S. ATTORNEY, ANY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, BRING THE EVIDENCE AND SHOW THEM. 91 00:10:43,943 --> 00:10:51,751 NOT WHAT YOU WANT. YOU'VE GOT TO CONVINCE THE PROSECUTOR AND THE COURT. >> YOU'VE GOT POLLS THAT SHOW 92 00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:58,924 SOME 34% OF AMERICANS, NEARLY 70% OF REPUBLICANS, WHO STILL TO THIS DAY BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN DIDN'T WIN THE 2020 ELECTION. 93 00:10:58,991 --> 00:11:05,798 >> BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THAT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT BECAUSE THEY'VE HEARD IT SO MANY TIMES. >> YOU'VE SAID THERE'S A HUGE 94 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:13,372 AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE THAT CAN BE INFLUENCED BY THE EXTREMES. IS THAT WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO 95 00:11:13,439 --> 00:11:16,542 EDUCATE? >> YES. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. BUT RIGHT HERE. 96 00:11:16,609 --> 00:11:24,216 AND IN A CLOSE ELECTION, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. >> WE WON PENNSYLVANIA TWICE. WE WON IT TWICE. 97 00:11:24,283 --> 00:11:31,490 WE DID MUCH BETTER THE SECOND TIME THAN WE DID THE FIRST TIME. >> HE CONTINUES TO SAY THAT HE WON PENNSYLVANIA TWICE. 98 00:11:31,557 --> 00:11:41,434 >> DONALD TRUMP WON IN 2016 BY ABOUT 44,000 VOTES, AND DONALD TRUMP LOST IN 2020 BY ABOUT 80,000 VOTES. 99 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:47,440 I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S A SORE LOSER. I UNDERSTAND THAT HE WISHED HE WOULD HAVE WON IN 2020. 100 00:11:47,506 --> 00:11:54,880 BUT ATTACKING THIS SYSTEM MADE UP OF OUR NEIGHBORS FROM COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA, REPUBLICAN AND 101 00:11:54,947 --> 00:12:02,855 DEMOCRAT ALIKE, IS NOT THE ANSWER. >> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS REFUSING TO COMMIT TO ACCEPTING 102 00:12:02,922 --> 00:12:10,663 THE RESULTS IF HE LOSES. >> IF HE DOES REFUSE, WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? 103 00:12:10,729 --> 00:12:16,168 >> I THINK IT CAN LOOK, UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 2020, WITH VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, 104 00:12:16,235 --> 00:12:23,509 WITH THREATS TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS, GOOD PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIKE AL SCHMIDT AND THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC CLERKS 105 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:30,583 OF ELECTIONS. AM I WORRIED ABOUT THAT? AM I CONCERNED ABOUT THAT? OF COURSE I AM. 106 00:12:30,649 --> 00:12:37,523 >> IN 2020, AS THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION HUNG IN THE BALANCE, ALL EYES WERE ON THE PENNSYLVANIA CONVENTION CENTER 107 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:46,332 IN PHILADELPHIA. OUTSIDE POLICE AND PROTESTERS SURROUNDED THE BUILDING WHILE INSIDE AL SCHMIDT OVERSAW THE 108 00:12:46,398 --> 00:12:54,940 COUNTING OF A RECORD 375,000 MAIL-IN BALLOTS, MOST OF THEM FROM DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. >> WE'RE WINNING PENNSYLVANIA BY 109 00:12:55,007 --> 00:13:02,047 A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. >> HOURS AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED, THEN-PRESIDENT TRUMP DEMANDED THE COUNTING STOP. 110 00:13:02,114 --> 00:13:08,554 >> WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FIND ANY BALLOTS AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND ADD THEM TO THE LIST, OKAY? 111 00:13:08,621 --> 00:13:13,759 >> WE WERE WORKING DAY AND NIGHT. THERE WAS ONE TELEVISION THAT WAS WORKING. 112 00:13:13,826 --> 00:13:23,969 AND I HAPPENED TO BE PASSING IT WHEN I HEARD THAT SPEECH. SO, IMMEDIATELY BROUGHT TOGETHER OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO 113 00:13:24,036 --> 00:13:31,443 BEGIN, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, ASSURING THE REST OF THE WORLD, WHOSE EYES WERE ON PENNSYLVANIA, THAT OUR VOTE 114 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:38,717 COUNTING WAS GOING TO CONTINUE. >> BUT AT THAT POINT YOU'VE GOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING, STOP THE COUNT. 115 00:13:38,784 --> 00:13:44,056 DID YOU EVER FEEL LIKE YOU HAD TO STOP THE COUNT? >> NO, NOT FOR A SECOND. >> AFTER FOUR DAYS, THE RACE IN 116 00:13:44,123 --> 00:13:50,863 PENNSYLVANIA WAS FINALLY CALLED FOR JOE BIDEN. AND WITH THAT, HE WON THE WHITE HOUSE. 117 00:13:50,930 --> 00:13:58,003 FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT AFTER AL SCHMIDT BY NAME ON TWITTER, AND VIOLENT THREATS FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS FOLLOWED. 118 00:13:58,070 --> 00:14:06,812 >> DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST THREAT THAT MADE YOU GO, I'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS ONE SERIOUSLY? >> THERE WERE THREATS EARLY ON 119 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:14,987 THAT WERE PRETTY GENERIC IN NATURE. BUT AS THE DAYS WENT ON, THEY BECAME A LOT MORE SPECIFIC, 120 00:14:15,054 --> 00:14:32,338 PROVIDING MY ADDRESS, GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO MY FAMILY. >> THEY USED A PICTURE OF YOUR 121 00:14:32,404 --> 00:14:35,641 HOUSE AT ONE POINT, I UNDERSTAND -- >> YES. >> -- LISTED YOUR CHILDREN'S 122 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:40,613 NAMES REPEATEDLY. YOU HAD TO MOVE YOUR FAMILY OUT OF YOUR HOUSE FOR SAFETY? >> YES, I HAD TO RELOCATE FOR A 123 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:47,019 PERIOD, AND WE HAD SECURITY AROUND THE CLOCK FOR MANY MONTHS. >> GIVEN ALL THE THREATS THAT 124 00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:55,894 YOU FACED PERSONALLY, I'VE GOT TO ASK WHY YOU WOULD AGREE TO TAKE THIS JOB. >> WELL, EVERYTHING IS ON THE 125 00:14:55,961 --> 00:15:02,268 LINE. OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, OUR COUNTRY AS IT WAS FOUNDED, IS ON THE LINE. 126 00:15:02,334 --> 00:15:14,046 TIKHANOVSKAY . >>> DURING THE 1950s, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN BELGIUM 127 00:15:14,113 --> 00:15:21,887 SEPARATED THOUSANDS OF NEWBORNS FROM THEIR UNWED MOTHERS AND PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION, OFTEN WITHOUT THE MOTHER'S CONSENT. 128 00:15:21,954 --> 00:15:27,893 THE WOMEN WERE SHAMED INTO SURRENDERING THEIR BABIES BY THEIR FAMILIES AND A POWERFUL CHURCH. 129 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:35,901 LAST MONTH, POPE FRANCIS APOLOGIZED FOR THOSE FORCED ADOPTIONS. BUT BELGIANS WEREN'T THE ONLY 130 00:15:35,968 --> 00:15:43,275 VICTIMS. FROM 1950 TO 1970, THE VATICAN SENT 3,500 ITALIAN CHILDREN TO AMERICA ON SOMETHING CALLED AN 131 00:15:43,342 --> 00:15:49,982 ORPHAN VISA. THE TROUBLE WAS MOST WERE NOT ORPHANS. LIKE THEIR BELGIAN COUNTERPARTS, 132 00:15:50,049 --> 00:15:56,422 THEY, TOO, WERE THE CHILDREN OF UNWED MOTHERS. MANY MOTHERS LATER WENT SEARCHING FOR THEIR CHILDREN 133 00:15:56,488 --> 00:16:04,563 ONLY TO DISCOVER THEY HAD BEEN SENT ACROSS AN OCEAN. TODAY, THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN ADOPTEES ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO 134 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:17,843 PIECE TOGETHER THEIR LOST LIVES. IT WAS A DAY HE'LL NEVER FORGET. AMERICAN ADOPTEE JOHN CAMPITELLI WAS 28 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS 135 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:23,482 REUNITED WITH HIS ITALIAN BIRTH MOTHER. HE'D BEEN SEARCHING FOR HER FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, A MOTHER 136 00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:28,454 HE'D BEEN TOLD HAD ABANDONED HIM. >> MY MOM SAID, YOU KNOW, 28 YEARS HAVE GONE BY. 137 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:35,361 I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO BAKE A CAKE FOR YOU FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY. SHE SAID, I DON'T CARE WHAT MONTH IT IS, I'M GOING TO BAKE 138 00:16:35,427 --> 00:16:45,871 YOU A CAKE. WE NEED TO CELEBRATE BECAUSE OUR PRODIGAL SON HAS COME HOME. >> HIS MOTHER, FRANCESCA, WAS 139 00:16:45,938 --> 00:16:52,244 UNMARRIED AND FORCED BY HER FAMILY TO GIVE HIM UP. HE WAS SENT TO A CATHOLIC-RUN INSTITUTION FOR THE CHILDREN OF 140 00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:59,485 UNWED MOTHERS. SHUNNED AND DISGRACED, FRANCESCA HANDED HER BABY TO THE NUNS. IMMEDIATELY, HER NAME WAS 141 00:16:59,551 --> 00:17:08,160 STRIPPED FROM THE BIRTH RECORDS. WITH THE STROKE OF A PEN, PIERO DAVI BECAME AN ORPHAN. CAMPITELLI SHOWED US THE CHURCH 142 00:17:08,227 --> 00:17:14,666 DOCUMENTS THAT CHANGED HIS LIFE. >> IT SAYS HERE, ABANDONED SINCE BIRTH, AND THEIR WHEREABOUTS ARE UNKNOWN. 143 00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:20,406 THEY KNEW DAMN WELL WHERE MY MOM WAS. I MEAN, SHE SHOWED HER DOCUMENTS WHEN SHE HANDED ME OVER. 144 00:17:20,472 --> 00:17:27,079 THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. >> A LIE JOHN CAMPITELLI HAS SPENT HIS LIFE UNRAVELING. AS SOON AS HE WAS DECLARED AN 145 00:17:27,146 --> 00:17:34,253 ORPHAN, HE WAS ELIGIBLE FOR ADOPTION AND A U.S. VISA. HE SAYS HIS MOTHER TOLD HIM SHE HAD NO IDEA. 146 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:42,127 SHE HAD EVERY INTENTION OF COMING BACK FOR HIM. >> SHE SAID, I NEVER SIGNED A PAPER ANYWHERE SAYING THAT I WAS 147 00:17:42,194 --> 00:17:49,835 WILLING TO GIVE YOU UP. >> SHE THOUGHT PLACING YOU WAS TEMPORARY? >> SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HER 148 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:56,542 RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET ME BACK SOME DAY WHEN SHE GOT HER LIFE TOGETHER. >> SHE NEVER SIGNED YOU AWAY? 149 00:17:56,608 --> 00:18:02,581 >> NO. SHE SAID, I PLACED YOU BECAUSE I COULDN'T KEEP YOU AT THAT POINT IN TIME BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY 150 00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:08,053 SITUATION. BUT I NEVER CONSENTED TO THE ADOPTION OR TO THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD LEAVE ITALY AND YOU WOULD 151 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:13,926 BE FAR FROM ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. >> PIERO DAVI WAS ONE OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN BORN OUT 152 00:18:13,992 --> 00:18:21,733 OF WEDLOCK THAT THE VATICAN REPACKAGED AS ORPHANS. THE CHURCH ARRANGED THE VISAS, HELPED BY A 1950 U.S. LAW THAT 153 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,773 BROADENED THE DEFINITION OF ORPHAN TO INCLUDE A CHILD WITH ONE PARENT BUT ONE WHO COULDN'T PROVIDE CARE. 154 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:37,015 WITH THAT LEEWAY, THE ORPHAN PROGRAM BOOMED. FOR PIERO'S MOTHER AND THOUSANDS LIKE HER, IT WAS DEVASTATING TO 155 00:18:37,082 --> 00:18:42,254 LEARN THE CHILD SHE HAD ENTRUSTED TO THE CHURCH HAD DISAPPEARED. >> IT SEEMS THAT MANY OF THESE 156 00:18:42,321 --> 00:18:50,596 MOTHERS HAD NO IDEA THAT THEIR CHILDREN WERE BEING SENT TO THE UNITED STATES. COULD THEY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? 157 00:18:50,662 --> 00:18:56,101 >> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU CAN'T SEND BABY TO THE UNITED STATES AND THEN TELL THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS THAT THE BIRTH 158 00:18:56,168 --> 00:19:02,908 MOTHER WANTS THE CHILD. >> AUTHOR MARIA LAURINO UNCOVERED THE VATICAN'S ORPHAN PROGRAM IN HER BOOK, "THE PRICE 159 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:11,517 OF CHILDREN." SHE SPEPIECED THE STORY TOGETHE FROM HUNDREDS OF DOCUMENTS IN THE CHURCH'S OWN ARCHIVES IN NEW 160 00:19:11,583 --> 00:19:16,688 YORK. LAURINO TOLD US THE PROGRAM HINGED ON A CONSENT FORM THE MOTHERS WERE SUPPOSED TO SIGN, 161 00:19:16,755 --> 00:19:22,194 SEVERING ALL RIGHTS TO THE CHILD. BUT LAURINO TOLD US DOCTORS OR LAWYERS SOMETIMES SIGNED THE 162 00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:29,101 CONSENT WITHOUT TELLING THE MOTHER. OTHERS WOULD OTHERS WERE DELIBERATELY MISLED. 163 00:19:29,167 --> 00:19:35,240 >> THERE WERE WOMEN WHO WERE TRAPPED INTO THE SITUATION, AND TREMENDOUS PRESSURE TO RELINQUISH THEIR CHILDREN. 164 00:19:35,307 --> 00:19:43,048 THEY WERE WOMEN WHO WERE TRICKED, WHO SIGNED FORMS THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. AND IN THE WORSE CASES, THERE 165 00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:47,085 WERE WOMEN WHO WERE TOLD THEIR CHILD HAD DIED. >> TOLD THEIR CHILD HAD DIED? >> YES. 166 00:19:47,152 --> 00:19:53,692 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> YEAH, IT'S SO -- IT'S SO HORRIBLE. THE THINKING, I'VE BEEN TOLD, 167 00:19:53,759 --> 00:20:02,467 WAS THAT IT WAS AN EASIER PSYCHOLOGICAL CLOSURE TO TELL A BIRTH MOTHER THAT HER CHILD HAD DIED THAN TO LET HER KNOW THAT 168 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:08,307 HER CHILD HAD BEEN GIVEN UP FOR ADOPTION. >> SO, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CHURCH WERE TELLING THESE 169 00:20:08,373 --> 00:20:15,781 MOTHERS THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAD DIED WHEN IN FACT THEY HAD NOT AND THEY HAD BEEN SENT TO THE UNITED STATES. 170 00:20:15,847 --> 00:20:21,453 >> YES. >> LAURINO TOLD US MANY MORE WOMEN WERE TOLD THEY COULD GET THEIR CHILDREN BACK. 171 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:27,092 SHE FOUND LETTERS FROM DISTRAUGHT MOTHERS PLEADING FOR THEIR RETURN. >> THESE ARE LETTERS THAT WERE 172 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:35,500 FOUND IN THE ARCHIVES? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS A LETTER TO REVEREND LANDI, MONSIGNOR LANDI. 173 00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:42,040 I BEG THAT MY CHILDREN BE REPATRIATED. IF I CANNOT SEE MY CHILDREN, I WILL SHORTEN MY LIFE. 174 00:20:42,107 --> 00:20:50,549 I FIND MYSELF DECEIVED AND I DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW. >> MONSIGNOR LANDI WAS ANDREW LANDI, AN AMERICAN PRIEST LIVING 175 00:20:50,616 --> 00:21:02,260 IN ROME WHO RAN THE ORPHAN PROGRAM. IN 1951, POPE -- SAW THE CHILDREN OFF. 176 00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:06,898 THOUSANDS MORE WOULD FOLLOW. >> HOW COULD THEY BE DEFINED AS ORPHANS -- >> I KNOW. 177 00:21:06,965 --> 00:21:16,642 >> -- IF THEY HAVE A MOTHER, IN MANY CASES A FATHER STILL ALIVE. >> AND TO TALK TO THE ADOPTED CHILDREN TODAY, THEY GET VERY 178 00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:25,917 ANGRY TO SAY, I'M NOT A ORPHAN. I SPENT YEARS SEARCHING FOR MY PARENTS. >> THE CHURCH CHARGED $475 PER 179 00:21:25,984 --> 00:21:34,793 CHILD, ABOUT $4,500 TODAY. BUT LAURINO TOLD US THE DEMAND FROM EAGER AMERICAN CATHOLICS GREW SO FAST THAT MONSIGNOR 180 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:47,706 LANDI SENT LOCAL PRIESTS TO SCOUR THE COUNTRYSIDE FOR MORE CHILDREN. >> THE CORRESPONDENCE SHOWS 181 00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:51,510 THEY -- >> LITERALLY LOOKING FOR BABIES BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK. >> YES. 182 00:21:51,576 --> 00:21:58,483 >> IT ACTUALLY TURNED INTO A MACHINE, LOOKING FOR BABIES TO SEND THEM TO THE UNITED STATES? >> RIGHT. 183 00:21:58,550 --> 00:22:04,756 >> JOHN CAMPITELLI TOLD US HE HAD A LOVING FAMILY IN NEW YORK. BUT WHEN HE FOUND OUT HE WAS ADOPTED, HE SAYS HE BECAME 184 00:22:04,823 --> 00:22:10,595 OBSESSED WITH FINDING HIS BIRTH MOTHER. THERE WERE FEW CLUES. EVEN HIS SURNAME, DAVI, WAS A 185 00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:19,071 DEAD END, INVENTED BY THE STATE TO CUT ALL TIES. FINALLY, HE PERSUADED AN ITALIAN NEWSPAPER TO PUBLISH HIS STORY. 186 00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:29,114 AND THEN A BREAK THROUGH. SOMEONE KNEW HIS MOTHER. IN 1991, HE SPOKE TO HER FOR THE FIRST TIME. 187 00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:37,422 >> SHE SAID, ARE YOU PIERO. I SAID, WELL, NO, I'M JOHN. I'M REALLY PIERO. I'M YOUR SON. 188 00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:42,561 >> SO, YOU WERE NERVOUS. >> I WAS REALLY NERVOUS. BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO. 189 00:22:42,627 --> 00:22:46,531 BUT WHEN THE MOMENT COMES, YOU'RE LIKE -- >> KIND OF TONGUE TIED. >> YEAH, YEAH. 190 00:22:46,598 --> 00:22:53,572 I WAS TONGUE TIED. I FINALLY GET TO TALK TO THE PERSON THAT ACTUALLY GAVE BIRTH TO ME, THAT HELD ME, THAT BREAST 191 00:22:53,638 --> 00:23:00,345 FED ME FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. SO, I KNOW THAT SHE LOVED ME. >> WHAT WAS HER VOICE LIKE TO 192 00:23:00,412 --> 00:23:04,249 YOU? >> IT BROUGHT ME TO TEARS, I MUST ADMIT. AND WE SAID WE WERE NEVER GOING 193 00:23:04,316 --> 00:23:09,354 TO LET GO OF EACH OTHER FROM THEN ON. >> TWO MONTHS LATER, HE WAS ON A FLIGHT TO ITALY. 194 00:23:09,421 --> 00:23:15,360 >> WE HAD EXCHANGED PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT I SAID, I DIDN'T NEED A PHOTOGRAPH BECAUSE I SAW THAT LADY THERE IN FRONT OF ME. 195 00:23:15,427 --> 00:23:23,001 AND I SAID, THAT'S MY MOM. SHE LOOKS IDENTICAL TO ME. AND AFTER 28 YEARS, I CAN SAY THAT I JUST RAN OVER TO HER AND 196 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:28,406 I EMBRACED HER AND I SAID, MOM, FINALLY. I KISSED HER. I SAID, MOM, NO ONE HAD TO TELL 197 00:23:28,473 --> 00:23:34,012 ME WHO YOU WERE. I KNEW WHO YOU WERE. I JUST HAD TO LOOK AT YOU. >> CAMPITELLI MOVED TO ITALY AND 198 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:40,152 LEARNED ITALIAN TO SPEAK TO HIS BIRTH FAMILY. BUT HE TOLD US THAT DIDN'T UNDO THE SUFFERING THE CHURCH HAD 199 00:23:40,218 --> 00:23:46,725 CAUSED. >> I FELT THAT MY WHOLE LIFE WAS BASED ON A LIE. THEY TOLD HER THAT THEY WOULD 200 00:23:46,792 --> 00:23:51,329 TAKE CARE OF ME, AND THAT WAS A LIE. THEY GOT RID OF ME. THEY DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF ME. 201 00:23:51,396 --> 00:23:57,369 THEY CUT ALL RELATIONSHIP THAT I COULD POSSIBLY HAVE WITH MY BIRTH FAMILY, AND THEY SHIPPED ME OVERSEAS. 202 00:23:57,435 --> 00:24:04,376 I BECAME A PACKAGE FOR THEM. >> TO THIS DAY, THE CHURCH INSISTS THE ORPHAN PROGRAM WAS THE ONLY CHANCE FOR A NEW LIFE 203 00:24:04,442 --> 00:24:14,586 FOR THESE CHILDREN. LAURINO TOLD US MONSIGNOR LANDI, WHO RAN THE PROGRAM, DIED IN 1999 WITHOUT EVER EXPRESSING ANY 204 00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:21,626 REGRETS. >> I THINK THAT HE BELIEVED IN THE MERIT OF THE PROGRAM, THAT THEY WERE BRINGING CHILDREN TO 205 00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:28,433 GOOD CATHOLIC HOMES AND THAT THESE CHILDREN WOULD BE RAISED WELL IN THE UNITED STATES. >> HOW DOES THAT EXPLANATION SIT 206 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:34,372 WITH YOU NOW? >> TERRIBLY. I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WOMEN WERE TREATED. 207 00:24:34,439 --> 00:24:39,744 AND THIS IS WHY I THINK OF THEM AS DISPOSABLE WOMEN. >> DISPOSABLE? >> YEAH. 208 00:24:39,811 --> 00:24:48,620 IT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO GIVE UP YOUR CHILD. BUT NOBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT THESE WOMEN THEN. 209 00:24:48,687 --> 00:24:55,560 [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> AMERICAN ADOPTEE MARY RELOTTO TRAVELS OFTEN TO ITALY TO SEE 210 00:24:55,627 --> 00:25:03,134 HER BIRTH FAMILY. SHE TOLD US SHE HAD A HAPPY LIFE GROWING UP IN OHIO, BUT SAID SHE LONGED FOR A LARGE FAMILY, ONLY 211 00:25:03,201 --> 00:25:11,042 TO FIND OUT SHE HAD ONE. IT WAS 1992 WHEN SHE FIRST MET ANNA MARIA, HER BIRTH MOTHER. >> THE ONLY THING I COULD DO WAS 212 00:25:11,109 --> 00:25:17,816 STARE AND LOOK AT EVERY INCH OF HER FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR. >> AND YOU'RE DUMBFOUNDED. >> NOT ONLY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE 213 00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:23,388 ME, BUT SHE ACTS LIKE ME. I ACT LIKE HER. WE'RE THE SAME WEIGHT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS IS MY TWIN 214 00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:29,060 BUT OLDER. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN I GET OLDER. SO, NOW I PAY ATTENTION TO MY 215 00:25:29,127 --> 00:25:34,532 HEALTH. >> MOTHER AND DAUGHTER SAY THEY'RE STILL LEARNING ABOUT EACH OTHER. 216 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:40,171 RELOTTO TOLD US IT WAS YEARS BEFORE SHE COULD ASK THE MOST PAINFUL QUESTION OF ALL, WHY WAS SHE GIVEN AWAY? 217 00:25:40,238 --> 00:25:49,714 >> I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW HER STORY, HER TRUTH, BECAUSE NO MOTHER GIVES UP THEIR CHILD SO WILLINGLY WITHOUT GRIEF. 218 00:25:49,781 --> 00:25:55,287 >> DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND WHY SHE GAVE YOU UP? >> BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A PIECE OF BREAD, SHE SAID, TO 219 00:25:55,353 --> 00:25:58,156 GIVE US. >> POVERTY. >> SHE DIDN'T HAVE CLOTHES FOR US. 220 00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:07,098 SHE WAS IN A DESPERATE SITUATION, YOU KNOW? SO, INSTEAD OF THE CHURCH HELPING HER MAINTAIN A HOUSE AND 221 00:26:07,165 --> 00:26:13,738 FEED HER CHILDREN, INSTEAD, THEY -- THEY TOOK HER CHILDREN. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] 222 00:26:13,805 --> 00:26:19,878 >> ANNA MARIA IS NOW 83. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> SHE AGREED TO SPEAK WITH US 223 00:26:19,945 --> 00:26:27,619 IF WE WITHHELD HER LAST NAME. EVEN DECADES LATER, THE STIGMA OF HAVING CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK REMAINS. 224 00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:34,659 SHE TOLD US ABOUT HER OTHER CHILD, CHRISTIAN, WHO WAS SENT TO A CHURCH-RUN INSTITUTION WHEN SHE BECAME ILL. 225 00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:46,237 BUT WHEN SHE WENT TO PICK HIM UP, SHE SAYS THE NUNS TOLD HER HE HAD DIED. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL 226 00:26:46,304 --> 00:26:51,409 LANGUAGE ] I WENT INTO DEPRESSION, ANNA MARIA TOLD US. I SEARCHED FOR HIM EVERYWHERE. 227 00:26:51,476 --> 00:26:59,651 HOW DID HE DIE? WHERE WAS HE BURIED? NOBODY COULD TELL ME. >> DOUBID YOU BELIEVE THAT YOURN 228 00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,320 WAS DEAD? [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] SOMETHING INSIDE ME DIDN'T FEEL 229 00:27:02,387 --> 00:27:09,461 RIGHT, BUT I COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. BUT CHRISTIAN HAD NOT DIED. HE TOLD US HE LEARNED THE TRUTH 230 00:27:09,527 --> 00:27:19,371 ABOUT HIS MOTHER AT AGE 40. ANNA MARIA SAYS THE CHURCH HAD PUT HIM UP FOR ADOPTION WITHOUT TELLING HER. 231 00:27:19,437 --> 00:27:24,642 [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] IT WAS A SWINDLE, SHE TOLD US. THEY STOLE A CHILD THAT THEY 232 00:27:24,709 --> 00:27:33,284 WANTED. SO, WHAT WAS IT LIKE FOR YOU WHEN YOU FOUND THAT CHRISTIAN WAS, IN FACT, ALIVE? 233 00:27:33,351 --> 00:27:37,322 [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] I HAD NO WORDS, SHE TOLD US. THERE WERE LOTS OF TEARS AND 234 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:45,296 HUGS. [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] THE VATICAN'S ORPHAN PROGRAM 235 00:27:45,363 --> 00:27:52,237 ENDED IN 1970, BUT THE FALLOUT CONTINUES, RIPPLING ACROSS GENERATIONS. MARY RELOTTO TOLD US SHE NEVER 236 00:27:52,303 --> 00:27:56,908 SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO AMERICA. >> I THINK THE CHURCH CONVINCED HER THAT IT WAS THE BEST THING 237 00:27:56,975 --> 00:28:02,447 FOR HER. SO, INSTEAD OF HELPING HER, IT WAS BETTER FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY SELLING BABIES. 238 00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:08,653 THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF. YOU KNOW? AM I ANGRY AT THE CHURCH? HELL YEAH, I AM. 239 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,759 I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT LIFE TOO. AND WHILE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT, I STILL WOULD HAVE 240 00:28:14,826 --> 00:28:23,101 SURVIVED IT WITHOUT THIS KIND OF GRIEF THAT I HAVE INSIDE OF ME NOW. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 241 00:28:23,168 --> 00:28:35,480 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> WITH ALL THE SUBTLETY OF THE KOOL-AID MAN CRASHING THROUGH A WALL, STEVE BALLMER ENTERED THE 242 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:43,688 NBA IN 2014. AFTER A RUN AS MICROSOFT CEO, BALLMER BOUGHT THE LOUSY L.A. CLIPPERS FOR THE, HAS HE LOST 243 00:28:43,755 --> 00:28:50,028 HIS MIND PRICE OF $2 BILLION. SINCE THEN, THE FRANCHISE'S VALUE HAS MORE THAN DOUBLE. THE CLIPPERS HAVEN'T HAD A 244 00:28:50,095 --> 00:28:58,236 LOSING SEASON. BALLMER HAS SEEN HIS NET WORTH SOAR NORTH OF $120 BILLION. AND HIS FULL THROATED PASSION 245 00:28:58,303 --> 00:29:05,143 FOR THE TEAM, IT'S DIMINISHED NOT AT ALL. THIS MONTH THE CLIPPERS CHRISTENED A NEW HOME, THE 246 00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:13,151 INTUIT DOME. THE OWNER IS CONVINCED THE ARENA WILL HELP VAULT THE CLIPPERS OVER THE LAKERS, AND EVENTUALLY, 247 00:29:13,218 --> 00:29:19,424 HE VOWS, TO AN NBA TITLE. >> THE STARTING FIVE -- >> AUGUST IS SUPPOSED TO BE A QUIET TIME IN THE NBA. 248 00:29:19,491 --> 00:29:30,602 BUT QUIET IS A RELATIVE TERM FOR STEVE BALLMER. >> COME ON, CLIPPER NATION! >> I WANT TO FEEL THE ENERGY OF 249 00:29:30,668 --> 00:29:35,907 THE FANS. WE WANT THEM IN THEIR SEATS. WE WANT PEOPLE MAKING NOISE. >> BALLMER WAS GIVING US AN 250 00:29:35,974 --> 00:29:43,548 EARLY LOOK AT THE ARENA HE BUILT FOR THE L.A. CLIPPERS. AMONG THE BILLIONAIRES WHO OWN U.S. PRO SPORTS FRANCHISES, 251 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:51,422 BALLMER, NOW 68, IS THE WEALTHIEST BY FAR. NEVER MIND BUYING THE TEAM, HE ALSO SPENT MORE THAN $2 BILLION 252 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:56,394 ON THIS NEW VENUE. >> THAT'S GOING TO HELP WIN BASKETBALL GAMES. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT ATMOSPHERE 253 00:29:56,461 --> 00:30:02,267 AND I HAD A FUN TIME. WILL IT REALLY HELP? >> I CAN'T PROMISE, BUT EVERYTHING IN MY INSTINCT SAYS 254 00:30:02,333 --> 00:30:11,075 IT WILL HELP OUR TEAM, OUR BASKETBALL TEAM, IF OUR CROWD TEAM CAN REALLY GET INTO IT AND GIVE THEM ENERGY. 255 00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:19,384 >> AS A FAN, I'M THINKING, WAIT A MINUTE -- >> GIVE THEM ENERGY MIGHT WELL BE BALLMER'S CATCH PHRASE. 256 00:30:19,450 --> 00:30:26,024 HIS ENTHUSIASM PREDATES HIS OWNERSHIP, GOING BACK TO HIS DAYS AT MICROSOFT. IT'S HIS PERSONAL EXPRESSION AND 257 00:30:26,090 --> 00:30:31,462 THE WAY TO LET HIS TEAM KNOW HE'S WITH THEM. >> IT TELLS THEM, HEY, HE WILL SUPPORT US. 258 00:30:31,529 --> 00:30:37,602 WHEN IT'S SHOWTIME, HE'LL BE THERE TO HELP SUPPORT US. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> I'M SURE THE PLAYERS HAVE 259 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:43,107 THAT, GOD, THIS GUY SEEMS A LITTLE BIT NUTS. THAT'S OKAY. >> YOU SAY YOU SWEAT AS MUCH 260 00:30:43,174 --> 00:30:48,479 OWNING THIS TEAM AS YOU DID RUNNING MICROSOFT. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. >> LET ME SAY, A LITTLE 261 00:30:48,546 --> 00:30:53,117 DIFFERENT SWEAT. I RAN MICROSOFT. I GREW UP WITH THE PLACE. I HELPED SHAPE THE PLACE. 262 00:30:53,184 --> 00:31:02,694 I KNEW WHERE ALL THE BODIES WERE BURIED, SO TO -- OR MOST OF THE BODIES WERE BURIED. YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IT WAS MY 263 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:09,133 BUTT ON THE LINE. SO, I SWEATED MORE AT MICROSOFT. BUT I DON'T WORRY ANY LESS AT THE CLIPPERS. 264 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:16,341 AND I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE REVENUE AND THE DAY TO DAY. WINNING. I DO WORRY ABOUT WINNING. 265 00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:28,486 >> IF OWNERS COULD BE CALLED FOR TRAVELING, WELL BALLMER HAS COME AN IMPOSSIBLY LONG WAY FROM HIS CHILDHOOD AS A SHY, ANXIOUS KID. 266 00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:36,461 HIS FATHER, A SWISS IMMIGRANT, WORKED A MID LEVEL JOB AT FORD. BALLMER WENT TO HARVARD, WHERE HE MANAGED THE FOOTBALL TEAM AND 267 00:31:36,527 --> 00:31:41,933 STRUCK UP A FRIENDSHIP WITH BILL GATES. GATES DROPPED OUT TO START A SOFTWARE COMPANY. 268 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:50,408 BALLMER WENT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, SALES AND MARKETING. >> MY FIRST DAY AT PROCTER & GAMBLE, I WAS VERY, VERY SHY, 269 00:31:50,475 --> 00:31:56,047 VERY NERVOUS. AND A GUY WHO BECAME MY FRIEND AND ROOMMATE SAID, MEETING ME THAT FIRST DAY WAS LIKE THIS. 270 00:31:56,114 --> 00:32:00,285 HI, MY NAME'S STEVE BALLMER. MY PALMS ARE SWEATING, BUT DON'T WORRY. I'M OKAY. 271 00:32:00,351 --> 00:32:12,397 >> DID I GET THIS RIGHT? YOU WERE SELLING CAKE MIX? >> DUNKIN' HINES BROWNIE MIX, BLUEBERRY MUFFIN MIX, AND MOIST 272 00:32:12,463 --> 00:32:17,702 N' EASY SNACK CAKE MIX TO BE PRECISE, JON. >> BROWNIE MIX WAS NOT HIS CALLING. 273 00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:22,540 SO, BALLMER WENT TO BUSINESS SCHOOL. IN 1980 HE WAS MIDWAY THROUGH HIS FIRST YEAR WHEN -- 274 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:30,715 >> I GET A CALL FROM BILL THAT SAYS, HEY, HOW YOU DOING? HEY, WHAT ARE YOU -- OH, YEAH, YOU GOT ANOTHER YEAR TO GO. 275 00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:38,890 TOO BAD. >> HE'S TRYING TO RECRUIT YOU? >> HE'S TRYING TO RECRUIT ME. BUT SOFTWARE FOR MICROCOMPUTERS, 276 00:32:38,956 --> 00:32:48,333 IT WAS NOT A THING AT THE TIME IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. >> BUT GATES WAS CONVINCING, AND BALLMER LEFT SCHOOL TO JOIN HIS 277 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:57,675 PAL'S CHAOTIC STARTUP. GATES WAS THE LEAD ENGINEER. BALLMER STEERED THE BUSINESS. HIS SALARY, $40,000, PLUS A 9% 278 00:32:57,742 --> 00:33:04,816 STAKE IN THE COMPANY. UNDERSTATEMENT, THAT STAKE PAID OFF, AS MICROSOFT WENT ON TO BECOME, WELL, MICROSOFT. 279 00:33:04,882 --> 00:33:12,857 TOGETHER, GATES AND BALLMER PERSONIFIED THE COMPANY. SMART, AMBITIOUS, MAYBE A LITTLE NERDY, NOT ALWAYS USER FRIENDLY. 280 00:33:12,924 --> 00:33:18,930 >> WE WERE TOLD THESE GUYS ARE COLLEGE BUDDIES. THEY COULD ALSO FIGHT. THEY COULD ARGUE. 281 00:33:18,996 --> 00:33:23,534 SOMETIMES IT WAS LIKE VERBAL KNIFE FIGHTS. YOU REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE? >> OH, YEAH. 282 00:33:23,601 --> 00:33:32,877 BILL AND I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOME KNOCKDOWN DRAGGOUT FIGHTS, ARGUMENTS. >> WINNING RECORD? 283 00:33:32,944 --> 00:33:39,751 >> MY TECHNIQUE BECAME MORE KEEP ON HARPING, HARPING, HARPING ON THE STUFF I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT AS OPPOSED TO TRY TO 284 00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:47,492 KNOCK HIM DOWN AND DRIVE MY POINT ACROSS. >> IN 2000, BALLMER TOOK OVER AS CEO. 285 00:33:47,558 --> 00:33:53,564 REMEMBER THE SHY KID? EARLY IN HIS CAREER, BALLMER LEARNED TO GET OVER HIS NERVES BY CRANKING UP ROD STEWART IN 286 00:33:53,631 --> 00:34:00,405 HIS CAR AND GIVING HIMSELF LOUD PEP TALKS. HERE HE IS DOING THE SAME FOR THOUSANDS OF SOFTWARE ENGINEERS. 287 00:34:00,471 --> 00:34:06,511 >> DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS. >> SHIRT SOAKING ENTHUSIASM 288 00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:12,049 BECAME HIS TRADEMARK AND AN INTERNET MEME. >> WHO WAS THAT GUY? >> THAT'S A GUY WHO REALLY 289 00:34:12,116 --> 00:34:20,425 WANTED TO FIRE PEOPLE UP. TO SAY, HEY, WE LOVE YOU. WE WANT YOU TO WRITE SOFTWARE FOR WINDOWS. 290 00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:26,097 WE WILL SUPPORT YOU. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU. MY EXPRESSION TO THAT -- LET'S 291 00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:32,870 JUST PUT IT THIS WAY. I LOOK BACK AT IT NOW, IT'S A LITTLE EMBARRASSING. >> I PERSONALLY FEED OFF ENERGY. 292 00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:38,309 AND IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S CUP OF TEA, BY THE WAY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE QUIETER. 293 00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:45,683 BUT IT'S ME. >> IF MICROSOFT'S PRODUCTS MIRRORED ITS LEADERS, FUNCTION OVER FORM, SOMETIMES THAT WAS TO 294 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:52,590 THE COMPANY'S DETRIMENT. BALLMER FAMOUSLY FAILED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY THE CHALLENGE OF APPLE'S iPHONE, LAUGHING AT THE 295 00:34:52,657 --> 00:35:00,731 IDEA IN 2007. >> THE THAT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PHONE IN THE WORLD AND IT DOESN'T APPEAL TO BUSINESS 296 00:35:00,798 --> 00:35:05,570 CUSTOMERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A KEYBOARD. GOSH, DARN IT. THE PHONE, MAN, THE PHONE. 297 00:35:05,636 --> 00:35:08,773 WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PHONE. >> WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PHONE? >> THERE WERE A COUPLE OF 298 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,446 THINGS. WE HAD A LOT OF OUR TALENTD ENGINEERS TIED UP ELSEWHERE. NUMBER TWO, WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT 299 00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:19,517 AS TOO MUCH LIKE WHAT WE HAD DONE WITH WINDOWS. IT DIDN'T REALLY -- WASN'T GOING TO WORK. 300 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:27,625 WE HAD TO HAVE DIFFERENT THINKING EARLIER ON. >> AND YET DURING BALLMER'S TENURE AS CEO, REVENUE MORE THAN 301 00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:35,333 TRIPLED. HE HUNG ON TO MOST OF HIS STOCK AND TODAY IS CONSISTENTLY RANKED AMONG THE WORLD'S TEN WEALTHIEST 302 00:35:35,399 --> 00:35:40,905 BILLIONAIRES. NOT THAT YOU WOULD KNOW IT. HE HAS NO SUPERYACHT, NO NEW WARDROBE, NO NEW SPOUSE. 303 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:46,911 HE AND HIS WIFE, CONNIE, RAISED THREE BOYS IN A FOUR BEDROOM OUTSIDE SEATTLE, WHERE THEY STILL LIVE. 304 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:53,117 THROUGH FAMILY PHILANTHROPY, THEY'VE GIVEN AWAY NEAR A BILLION DOLLARS IN THE LAST TEN MONTHS ALONE AND SPENT MILLIONS 305 00:35:53,184 --> 00:36:00,725 MORE ON A SIDE PROJECT, THE NON-PARTISAN USA FACTS WHICH HELPS AMERICANS MAKE INFORMED POLITICAL DECISIONS. 306 00:36:00,791 --> 00:36:09,867 AND FRIENDS SAY THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY WHO STILL COMPLAINS ABOUT THE COST OF THE HOTEL MINIBAR. >> HOW DOES WEALTH LIKE YOU HAVE 307 00:36:09,934 --> 00:36:16,841 OF THAT SCALE, HOW DOES THAT NOT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE YOU? >> LOOK, I AM FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED. 308 00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:25,449 I KNOW I AM. I'VE BEEN CATERED TO AS CEO OF MICROSOFT. FRGET MONEY, WHEN YOU'RE THE 309 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:31,355 LEAD JOB IN A COMPANY, PEOPLE CATER TO YOU. SO I GET CATERED TO. CAN I STILL HAVE FUN IN OLD 310 00:36:31,422 --> 00:36:34,825 STYLE WAYS? DO I HAVE TO BE A JERK TO PEOPLE? NO. 311 00:36:34,892 --> 00:36:41,999 I DON'T NEED TO DO THOSE THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, OH, DID YOU ALWAYS WANT TO OWN A BASKETBALL TEAM WHEN YOU WERE 312 00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:46,270 GROWING UP? OF COURSE NOT. WHO THE HECK EVER THINKS THEY'RE GOING TO GET ENOUGH MONEY TO OWN 313 00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:54,912 A BASKETBALL TEAM? >> THE BASKETBALL TEAM. BALLMER CONCEDES ITS HIS BILLIONAIRES EXTRAVAGANCE. 314 00:36:54,979 --> 00:37:03,688 HE'S LOVED HOOPS SINCE CHILDHOOD AND IN 2014, JUST MONTHS AFTER BALLMER ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT FROM MICROSOFT, THE CLIPPERS' 315 00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:12,930 PREVIOUS OWNER, STERLING WAS CAUGHT ON TAPE IN A RACIST TIRADE. FOLLOWING PLAYER REVOLT, 316 00:37:12,997 --> 00:37:19,670 STERLING WAS FORCED TO SELL THE TEAM. IN POSITION FOR THE REBOUND, SO TO SPEAK, BALLMER BOUGHT THE 317 00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:26,344 LOWLY CLIPPERS FOR ALMOST FOUR TIMES THE PRICE OF THE PREVIOUS NBA TEAM SELL. >> IF THIS WAS A DISTRESSED 318 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:33,250 ASSET AT THE TIME, OWNER MAKES RACIST STATEMENTS, BASICALLY FORCED TO SELL, HE DIDN'T PAY DISTRESSED ASSET PRICES, DID 319 00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:37,955 YOU? >> BECAUSE IT REALLY WASN'T A DISTRESSED ASSET IN THE FOLLOWING SENSE. 320 00:37:38,022 --> 00:37:46,430 IT'S AN NBA TEAM. THERE'S 30 OF THEM. IT'S IN THE BEST MARKET, ONE OF THE COUPLE BEST MARKETS. 321 00:37:46,497 --> 00:37:55,006 THAT'S -- YOU COULD SAY IT'S DISTRESSED, BUT YOU CAN'T FIND THEM ANYWHERE ELSE. LAKERS ARE TOP BANANA IN THIS 322 00:37:55,072 --> 00:38:02,480 TOWN AS FAR AS BASKETBALL TEAMS. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> IT'S A FACT THEY WON WHATEVER IT IS, 17 CHAMPIONSHIPS. 323 00:38:02,546 --> 00:38:06,617 WE'VE NOT WON ONE. I GET THAT. BUT AM I OKAY WITH IT? NO, OF COURSE NOT. 324 00:38:06,684 --> 00:38:10,488 DO I TAKE IT AS A CHALLENGE? YES. ARE WE GOING TO GET AFTER IT? YES. 325 00:38:10,554 --> 00:38:20,998 EVERY DAY WE GET AFTER IT. >> BALLMER HAS PUMPED MONEY INTO UPGRADING THE CLIPPERS ROSTER, SIGNING STARS LIKE JAMES HARDEN 326 00:38:21,065 --> 00:38:26,971 AND KAWHI LEONARD, WHO PRAISED THEIR NEW BOSS. BUT THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO SUCCESS BALLMER FOUND, THE 327 00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:34,879 CLIPPERS DIDN'T HAVE A HOME. SINCE THE '90s, THE TEAM BASICALLY RENTED OUT THE LAKERS ARENA IN DOWNTOWN L.A. 328 00:38:34,945 --> 00:38:41,085 BALLMER DECIDED TO BUILD SOUTHWEST OF DOWNTOWN IN LESS FASHIONABLE ENGELWOOD. THE OWNER WAS INVOLVED IN 329 00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:50,494 EVERY -- AND WE MEAN EVERY -- DETAIL. >> TOILETS! 1,160 TOILETS AND URINALS. 330 00:38:50,561 --> 00:38:56,534 >> CAN YOU SHOW ME TOILETS? >> WE'VE GOT 1,400 OF THEM. >> I REALLY HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE WAIT IN LINE. 331 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:03,340 WAITING IN LINE FOR TOILETS, I THINK, IS -- IT STOPS PEOPLE FROM GETTING BACK INTO THE GAME. PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED. 332 00:39:03,407 --> 00:39:08,946 >> WE'LL SPARE YOU THAT PORCELAIN TOUR, BUT THERE IS A METHOD HERE. GET FANS IN THEIR SEATS OR OUT 333 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:17,221 OF THEM TO WATCH THE DAMN GAME. NO LINES, NO CASH REGISTERS. EVERYTHING HERE IS CONTACTLESS. NOT EVEN A SPORTS BAR. 334 00:39:17,288 --> 00:39:25,329 EVEN THE SWEETS ARE BARE BONES. THE OWNER COMES TO WATCH BASKETBALL, NOT TO SCHMOOZE, AND FANS SHOULD TOO. 335 00:39:25,396 --> 00:39:31,202 >> OUR SCORE BOARD, THE HALO BOARD. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT 336 00:39:31,268 --> 00:39:35,873 TERRANCE MAN. >> PART OF THE PHILOSOPHY, BUILD IT NICE. TODAY'S OPPONENTS ARE TOMORROW'S 337 00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:44,014 FREE AGENTS. BUT ALSO BUILD THE KIND OF ARENA THAT REFLECTS THE OWNER. TECH IS DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT BUT 338 00:39:44,081 --> 00:39:49,353 MOSTLY TO ENCOURAGE BALLMER LEVEL FANDOM. >> WE HAVE SENSORS AROUND THE BUILDING THAT CAN TELL DOWN TO 339 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:55,192 THE INDIVIDUAL SEAT LEVEL HOW LOUD YOU ARE. NOW, WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION. 340 00:39:55,259 --> 00:40:04,502 BUT LET'S SAY WE SAY, OKAY, FOR THIS GAME, THE PERSON WHO PRODUCES THE MOST DECIBELS THE MOST CONSISTENTLY WILL GET A 341 00:40:04,568 --> 00:40:11,909 FREE HAMBURGER THE NEXT GAME. >> IF YOU CHEER LOUD ENOUGH, THE SECURITY WILL SAY, THERE IT IS, THE LOUDEST GUY. 342 00:40:11,976 --> 00:40:17,648 >> THE OWNER IS CONVINCED THE MORE ENERGY, THE MORE POINTS THE CLIPPERS PUT UP. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORTERS 343 00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:22,720 UP THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT -- >> YOU WANT ME TO SHOOT? >> WHY DON'T YOU SHOOT THAT BALL. 344 00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:35,533 NO TIME TO WARM UP. TOTALL UNFAIR. FOR 60 MINUTES! LET ME SEE IF I CAN MAKE ONE. 345 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:41,539 YOU HAVE A LITTLE GAME THERE, MAN. PATHETIC. >> BALLMER IS QUICK TO CONCEDE 346 00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:50,247 HIS HIGHEST LEVEL OF BASKETBALL WAS NINTH GRADE, NO CUTS. >> THERE YOU GO. >> THERE YOU GO. 347 00:40:50,314 --> 00:40:55,820 THAT'S NOT A GOOD FREE THROW SHOOTING PERCENTAGE. >> IT'S DIFFERENT FROM RUNNING MICROSOFT, A COMPANY WITH 348 00:40:55,886 --> 00:41:01,992 REVENUES THAT ARE 20 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE ENTIRE NBA. BUT BALLMER SAYS HE'S HAVING MORE FUN IN THIS JOB, IN PART 349 00:41:02,059 --> 00:41:08,065 BECAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO MEASURE PERFORMANCE. >> PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSINESS AND 350 00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:12,536 BASKETBALL? WELL, IF YOU HAVE A BAD QUARTER, YOU CAN SAY, I'LL GET THEM NEXT TIME. 351 00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:18,375 OR YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE GOT GOING ON IN THE LABS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. HERE, EVERY 24 SECONDS, YOU GET 352 00:41:18,442 --> 00:41:23,080 A SCORECARD. DID WE SCORE? DID WE STOP THEM FROM SCORING? EVERY 24 SECONDS. 353 00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:27,718 AT THE END OF THE GAME, IF YOU LOSE IT, YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE IT. EVERY SEASON, WHEN IT'S DONE, 354 00:41:27,785 --> 00:41:33,891 IT'S DONE. NOW, THE NICE THING IS YOU ALSO GET TO RESET EVERY YEAR. AND THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S 355 00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:44,435 PRETTY COOL. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] . >>> NOW STEVE AND CONNIE BALLMER 356 00:41:44,501 --> 00:41:57,014 ARE GIVING AWAY BILLIONS. >> EVERY KID DESERVES A SHOT. >> AT [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 357 00:41:57,081 --> 00:42:06,957 >>> THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTH CARE, RELIABLE COVERAGE FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD. 358 00:42:07,024 --> 00:42:16,800 >> ON TONIGHT'S "LAST MINUTE," TWO SCIENTISTS WE INTRODUCED YOU TO IN STORIES ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WON NOBLE PRIZES 359 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:26,677 THIS PAST WEEK. 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