[ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> ELECTION DAY COMES IN AN ANXIOUS TIME. >> WHY SHOULD AMERICANS HAVE
CONFIDENCE IN THIS ELECTION? >> WE HAVE TONS OF PEOPLE, PROCESSES, AND POLICIES IN PLACE IN ALL 50 STATES AND THE
DISTRICT TO ASSURE THAT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION IS CORRECT. >> CORRECT BUT MAYBE NOT AS FAST
AS OUR NERVES WOULD LIKE. >> SO, ON ELECTION NIGHT, DON'T EXPECT TO KNOW THE WINNER. WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE A PRETTY
GOOD IDEA WHO WON THE PRESIDENCY MAYBE AROUND THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR FROM
DOCTORS WHO SAY THE NEW ABORTION LAWS IN TEXAS ARE CREATING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND THE
WOMEN THEY CARE FOR. >> FIVE YEARS AGO, I COULD COUNCIL A PATIENT ON ALL OF THE VARIOUS TREATMENT OPTIONS, AND
NOW IT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR ME. >> DANGEROUS BECAUSE? >> BECAUSE I COULD FACE LIFE IN
PRISON. >> JUST FOR HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH MY PATIENT ABOUT EVIDENCE-BASED CARE.
[ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROTTEN IN THE STATE OF DENMARK. THIS IS THE LAND THAT GAVE US
LEGO, PROVINCE OF -- ALL FISHING NETS AND SAFETY NETS. TODAY THE SPIKING DEMAND FOR THE DANISH DRUG OZEMPIC IS FATTENING
THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMY. NOVO NORDISK NOW HAS A MARKET CAP LARGER THAN DENMARK'S ENTIRE GDP.
[ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M CECILIA VEGA. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON "60 MINUTES."
>>> TUESDAY, AMERICANS WILL CONSIDER A QUESTION MORE VITAL THAN WHO WINS THE WHITE HOUSE. THEY'LL DECIDE WHETHER THEY HAVE
FAITH IN THE BALLOT, WHETHER JANUARY 6, 2021, WAS THE END OF CHAOS OR THE BEGINNING. ELECTION FRAUD LIES ARE AIMED AT
DESTROYING CONFIDENCE. YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR WHY THEY ARE LIES. GABRIEL STERLING IS A MESSENGER
OF ELECTION TRUTH. HE'S THE REPUBLICAN CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR THE GEORGIA SECRETARY OF STATE, WHO
RUNS ELECTIONS THERE. GEORGIA WAS THE CENTER OF THE SCHEME TO OVERTHROW THE 2020 ELECTION.
STERLING SAYS, THESE ARE THE STAKES THIS TUESDAY. >> PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE FAITH IN THE OUTCOMES.
AND FOR 200-SOME-ODD YEARS WERKS HAD TO , WE HAD TO HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE PERSON WHO LOST.
THE REASON WE HAVE BALLOTS IS TO AVOID BULLETS. IF YOU SAY BALLOTS DON'T MATTER ANYMORE, THERE'S ONLY ONE
DIRECTION TO GO AND THAT'S NOT HEALTHY IN ANY DEMOCRACY. >> WHY SHOULD AMERICANS HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THIS ELECTION?
>> EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY HAS POKED AND PRODDED AND LOOKED AT THEIR PROCESSES. WE KNOW WHILE WE ALL DO IT
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY, EVERYBODY ASSURES THERE IS ONE PERSON AND ONE VOTE. EVERYBODY ASSURES THERE IS A
SINGLE BALLOT CAST. NEARLY EVERY STATE IN THE UNION HAS AUDITS AFTER THE FACT. EVERY STATE IN THE UNION TESTS
THEIR EQUIPMENT BEFOREHAND IN A PUBLIC WAY. WE HAVE TONS OF PEOPLE, PROCESSES, AND POLICIES IN PLACE
IN ALL 50 STATES AND THE DISTRICT TO ENSURE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION IS CORRECT. >> AND THERE ARE MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE SKEPTICAL ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> THERE'S ALWAYS SOME LEVEL OF SKEPTICISM.
IT REACHED A DIFFERENT LEVEL IN THE 2020/2024 ELECTIONS. >> IN THE 2020 ELECTION, PRESIDENT TRUMP LOST GEORGIA BY
A SLENDER 11,779 VOTES. TWO RECOUNTS CONFIRMED HIS LOSS, BUT HE SAID THIS. >> NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THE KIND
OF FRAUD THAT THIS ELECTION HAS REALLY COME TO REPRESENT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE SO BAD IN GEORGIA.
>> FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE VOTE WAS TO BE CERTIFIED ON JANUARY 6th, TRUMP CALLED STERLING'S BOSS, GEORGIA REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF
STATE, BRAD RAFFENSPERGER. >> SO, LOOK, ALL I WANT TO DO IS THIS. I JUST WANT TO FIND 11,780
VOTES, WHICH IS ONE MORE THAN WE HAVE. >> IN A STATE WHERE REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED EVERY BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT, RAFFENSPERGER STOOD UP TO TRUMP ON THE CALL. >> WE HAVE TO STAND BY OUR NUMBERS.
WE BELIEVE OUR NUMBERS ARE RIGHT. >> TRUMP'S LAWYERS BROUGHT SHOCKING TALES OF FRAUD TO THE
LEGISLATURE. BUT INVESTIGATIONS BY THE STATE POLICE, FBI, AND RAFFENSPERGER'S OFFICE FOUND NONE WAS TRUE.
>> THEY SAID THERE WERE 66,000 UNDERAGE VOTERS. THERE WERE ZERO. THEN THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS
2,320 NON-REGISTERED VOTERS. THERE WERE ZERO. >> BUT YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN. HE WAS YOUR PRESIDENT.
>> I WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF GEORGIA. I RESPOND AND I WORK FOR THE VOTERS OF GEORGIA.
MY JOB IS TO RUN A FAIR, HONEST, ACCURATE ELECTION. >> BUT FAIRNESS AND HONESTY WERE MET WITH THREATS OF VIOLENCE.
>> IT HAS ALL GONE TOO FAR. >> DEATH THREATS TO HIS ELECTION WORKERS SNAPPED REPUBLICAN GABE STERLING'S PATIENCE.
>> IT HAS TO STOP. MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE NOT CONDEMNED THESE ACTIONS OR THIS LANGUAGE.
SENATORS, YOU HAVE NOT CONDEMNED THIS LANGUAGE OR THESE ACTIONS. THIS HAS TO STOP. WE NEED YOU TO STEP UP.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP, SHOW SOME. STOP INSPIRING PEOPLE TO COMMIT
POTENTIAL ACTS OF VIOLENCE. SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET HURT. SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET SHOT. SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET KILLED.
>> HIS WARNING WAS FIVE WEEKS BEFORE JANUARY 6th. >> [ CROWD CHANTING ] FIGHT FOR TRUMP!
>> MORE THAN 1,000 RIOTERS HAVE BEEN CONVICTED, JUST PART OF THE ELECTION LIE CHAOS. TRUMP FILED 64 LAWSUITS AND LOST
63. LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI WAS SUED TO BANKRUPTCY AFTER FALSELY ACCUSING GEORGIA ELECTION
WORKERS OF FRAUD. FOX NEWS PAID $787 MILLION TO SETTLE A SUIT THAT SAID FOX KNEW IT WAS LYING ABOUT THE ELECTION.
AND TRUMP WAS INDICTED IN GEORGIA. HE'S PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO ELECTION INTERFERENCE, BUT FOUR
CODEFENDANTS DID PLEAD GUILTY TO RELATED CHARGES. STERLING HOPED HIS MESSAGE WOULD GET THROUGH TO EVERYONE, BUT IT
HASN'T. >> AND THERE'S SOME YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO CONVINCE AND YOU JUST GOING TO CONVINCE THEM.
BUT FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS, BASICALLY WITH THIS MUCH SMOKE, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING.
NOBODY WOULD LIE THIS MUCH ABOUT IT. I THINK THERE'S SAVEABLE SOULS THERE WHO BASICALLY -- THEY WANT
TO UNDERSTAND. VOTER SUPPRESSION IS FAKE. VOTER FRAUD IS FAKE. IT'S USED TO RAISE MONEY AND GET
YOU ANGRY. >> TRUMP RILED SUPPORTERS WITH ELECTION DENIAL FROM THE VERY FIRST TIME HE WAS EVER ON A
REPUBLICAN BALLOT. HE LOST THE IOWA CAUCUS IN 2016 AND WROTE, TED CRUZ DIDN'T WIN IOWA.
HE STOLE IT. LATER, WHEN TRUMP WON THE NATIONAL ELECTORAL VOTE BUT NOT THE POPULAR VOTE, HE POSTED, I
WON THE POPULAR VOTE IF YOU DEDUCT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED ILLEGALLY. LATER, A FRAUD COMMISSION HE
APPOINTED DISBANDED WHEN IT COULDN'T FIND THE EVIDENCE. >> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
IT'S INEVITABLE. >> YES, IT IS. >> AND TO THEM, YOU SAY WHAT? >> I'M SORRY THAT YOUR CANDIDATE
LOST, BUT THE RULES ARE THE RULES, THE LAW IS THE LAW, AND THE COUNT IS THE COUNT. >> GEORGIA, IN MANY WAYS , IS A
MODEL. THEY DO A LOT OF THINGS EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. >> FEW PEOPLE KNOW ELECTIONS
LIKE DAVID BECKER. HE HELPED ENFORCE VOTING RIGHTS. LATER HE LED THE CREATION OF A VOTER REGISTRATION DATA CENTER
THAT IS USED TODAY BY HALF THE STATES. BECKER IS A CBS NEWS ELECTION CONSULTANT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS EVERYONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IS THE CLAIMS ABOUT ELECTION THEFT AND FRAUD ARE NOT DRIVEN BY THE ACTUAL
POLICIES THAT EXIST IN THE STATES. THEY'RE DRIVEN BY ONE FACTOR AND ONE FACTOR ONLY, AND THAT'S
WHETHER YOUR CANDIDATE WON. SADLY, TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN TARGETED FOR THIS DISINFORMATION.
THEY'VE BEEN PREYED UPON BY LOSING CANDIDATES AND FOREIGN ADVERSARIES. AND IMPORTANTLY, THEY HAVE
DONATED MONEY BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS FINANCIAL. THERE'S A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR THOSE WHO SPREAD THE LIES
WHO ARE HAVE RAISED, LET'S FACE IT, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS, IF NOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, ON THE LIE THAT OUR ELECTIONS AREN'T TO BE
TRUSTED. >> LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT FRAUD. BOGUS VOTES ARE ELECTRONICALLY
INSERTED INTO TABULATION MACHINES. >> THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.
THEY ARE UNDER STRICT PHYSICAL CHAIN OF CUSTODY. IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET ACCESS TO A PHYSICAL MACHINE AND DO
ANYTHING TO IT. AND EVEN IF THERE WERE SOME ATTEMPT TO HACK THE MACHINE OR PROBABLY MORE LIKELY HAVE SOME
KIND OF MALFUNCTION OF THE MACHINE, THE AUDITS WOULD CATCH IT. >> ANOTHER OF THE CONSPIRACY
THEORIES IS THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE VOTING BY THE MILLIONS. >> THAT IS 100% FALSE.
EVERY SINGLE VOTER HAS TO GIVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, WHICH IS MATCHED AGAINST FILES/DATABASES
THAT ARE HELD TO MAKE SURE THE VOTER IS WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE AND THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. WE ALSO KNOW STATES WHO HAVE
GONE LOOKING FOR NON-CITIZEN VOTERS, THEY FOUND SHOCKINGLY FEW RESIDENTS. OHIO JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCED
THAT IN A PERIOD OF TIME OF OVER A DECADE, IT HAD FOUND SIX POSSIBLE CASES OF NON-CITIZENS VOTING.
>> BUT FRAUD DOES HAPPEN, DOESN'T IT? >> IT HAPPENS VERY RARELY. WE KNOW HOW MUCH FRAUD IN THIS
COUNTRY HAPPENS. WE KNOW IT'S NOT ZERO, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO ZERO. >> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
MILLIONS OF VOTES OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VOTES. >> NO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOZENS OF
VOTES THE IN A BIG, NATIONAL ELECTION. IT IS, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IMPOSSIBLE TO STEAL A
BIG NATIONAL ELECTION. WE ARE SO DECENTRALIZED WITH ALMOST 10,000 DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS RUN BY DEMOCRATIC
AND REPUBLICAN ELECTION OFFICIALS. OUR VOTER LISTS ARE AS ACCURATE AS THEY EVER HAVE BEEN BEFORE,
AND THEY'RE CHECKED REGULARLY. >> DAVID BECKER TOLD US THE KEY TO CONFIDENCE IN THIS ELECTION IS THE PAPER BALLOT.
>> 95-PLUS PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS ARE GOING TO VOTE ON PAPER BALLOTS, WHICH ARE VERIFIABLE AND AUDITABLE TO
CONFIRM THE COUNT WAS ACCURATE. AND WE AUDIT THE BALLOTS, CAN HAD MEANS WE DO HAND COUNTS TO COMPARE TO THE MACHINE COUNT TO
MAKE SURE THE MACHINE HAS THE RIGHT RESULT. >> WHY SHOULD WE TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING THE
ELECTION? >> I CAN TELL YOU I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ELECTION OFFICIALS FOR OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.
AND WHEN YOU TALK TO THESE ELECTION OFFICIALS OUT THERE, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, THEY DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES
THEM RICH AND FAMOUS. THEY DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S A CALLING. >> A CALLING HEARD BY GEORGE
HARRISON, BEVERLY WOITYRA, AND PAUL PETRUSKA, TRAINED POLL WORKERS NEAR ATLANTA. THEY TOLD US, WHEN THERE'S A
PROBLEM, IT'S NEARLY ALWAYS A MISTAKE THE VOTER MADE. AND THERE'S A SAYING AT STATE HEADQUARTERS.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW ANYTHING WORKS, EVERYTHING'S A CONSPIRACY. >> SOMETIMES THEY JUST WANT TO
VENT. SOMETIMES THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY LISTEN TO THEIR QUESTION AND SAY, HEY, I HAD
THIS QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT THIS? I TRIED TO HAVE ALL MY VOTERS BY THE TIME THEY LEAVE IN A BETTER
MOOD THAN WHEN THEY CAME IN. >> ELECTION DOUBTERS ARE WELCOME TO VOLUNTEER, LIKE TWO SKEPTICAL WOMEN WHO TOOK THE TRAINING
COURSE RECENTLY. >> THEY WANTED TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY WERE BOTH CONVINCED BY THE TIME THEY LEFT
TRAINING THAT EVERYTHING WAS ON THE UP AND UP. >> I WOULD SAY TO THE VOTERS THAT ARE WATCHING THIS, STAY OFF
THE INTERNET. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE -- COME DOWN HERE AND TALK TO US. FACT CHECK WITH MORE THAN
FACEBOOK AND TIKTOK. THAT'S THE -- WHAT I WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS WHOLE ENTIRE CONVERSATION IS
THAT GOSSIP -- GOSSIP KILLS. >> GOSSIP ISN'T THE ONLY MENACE. >> HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> MANY GEORGIA POLL WORKERS
HAVE A 911 PANIC BUTTON ON A LANYARD. OFFICERS ARE ARMED WITH THE ANTIDOTE, NARCAN.
LAST YEAR FENTANYL WAS MAILED IN AN ATTACK ON ELECTION WORKERS JUST DOING THEIR JOBS. >> THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT ALL
ELIGIBLE VOTERS AND ONLY ELIGIBLE VOTERS CAN VOTE IN A SYSTEM THAT IS ACCURATE AND BREEDS CONFIDENCE.
>> BUT CONFIDENCE REMAINS UNDER ATTACK. THIS POST LAST WEEK CLAIMED ILLEGAL HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS ARE
VOTING WITH GEORGIA DRIVER'S LICENSES. THE FBI TRACED IT TO RUSSIA. ELECTION CONSULTANT DAVID BECKER
TOLD US, THERE WILL BE MORE DISINFORMATION AND A FEW BREAKDOWNS AND MISTAKES, NONE OF WHICH SHOULD BE CONFUSED WITH
FRAUD. >> WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT IN TERMS OF RESULTS ON ELECTION NIGHT?
>> SO, ON ELECTION NIGHT, DON'T EXPECT TO KNOW THE WINNER. DEFINITELY DON'T EXPECT TO KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE UNITED STATES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY CLOSE RACES, EVEN IN PLACES LIKE CALIFORNIA, THAT WILL TAKE DAYS
OR MAYBE EVEN WEEKS TO RESOLVE. THE SENATE, WE MIGHT KNOW A LITTLE BIT SOONER, BUT UNCLEAR. WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE A PRETTY
GOOD IDEA WHO WON THE PRESIDENCY MAYBE AROUND THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. >> THAT'S BECAUSE THE RACE IS ESSENTIALLY TIED, INCLUDING IN
GEORGIA, WHERE GABRIEL STERLING, THE REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF STATE'S CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, HOPES AMERICA CAN ENDURE ITS
NEXT CLOSE ELECTION WITHOUT COMING APART. >> WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE THE CHIEF OPERATING FIREWALL AGAINST
LIES AND MYTHS IN THE ELECTION? >> I NEVER HEARD IT PUT TO ME QUITE THAT WAY. WILD HORSES COULDN'T DRIVE ME
AWAY FROM THIS JOB RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, I KNOW OUR SYSTEM IS GREAT IN THIS STATE. I KNOW THE ELECTIONS ACROSS
AMERICA ARE SAFE AND SECURE. I KNOW THAT 2024 WILL BE THE SAFEST AND MOST SECURE ELECTION IN HISTORY.
IT'LL BE THE MOST SCRUTINIZED ELECTION IN HISTORY. AND WHOEVER THE WINNER IS, BE IT DONALD TRUMP OR KAMALA HARRIS,
WE WILL KNOW THAT THEY ARE THE CORRECT WINNER AT THE END OF THE DAY. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ]
>>> HOW GEORGIA IS KEEPING ELECTION WORKERS SAFE. >> A TEXTING TOOL FOR EVERY CANDIDATE THAT WANTS TO OPT IN,
A SEE SINBAEK HANNE >>> AFTER THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED ROE VERSUS WADE IN 2022, 20 STATES BANNED OR
SEVERELY RESTRICTED ABORTION. SIX STATES VOTED TO PROTECT ACCESS TO IT. AND ON TUESDAY, VOTERS IN TEN
STATES WILL DECIDE ON MEASURES THAT WOULD ADD ABORTION RIGHTS TO THEIR STATE CONSTITUTIONS. TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THE
CHANGING LEGAL LANDSCAPE AND ITS COMPLEXITIES, WE WENT TO THE FIRST STATE TO CHANGE ITS ABORTION LAWS, TEXAS.
TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR FROM DOCTORS WHO SAY, IN TEXAS, THE LAW IS LAWS DESIGNED TO STOP ABORTIONS HAVE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES, HURTING PEOPLE. >> MY MOM IS A DOCTOR AND SHE'S PROBABLY THE COOLEST PERSON I EVER MET.
I GREW UP WITH HER COMING HOME IN HER WHITE COAT. AND I HONESTLY JUST WANTED TO BE MY MOM.
>> IN 2021, DANI MATHISEN WAS FOLLOWING IN HER MOTHER'S FOOTSTEPS, ON HER WAY TO BECOMING AN OB/GYN.
SHE WAS 25 YEARS OLD, IN HER FINAL YEAR OF MEDICAL SCHOOL IN TEXAS, MARRIED TO HER HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART, AND READY TO
START A FAMILY. >> WE PLANNED IT OUT PERFECTLY. I WAS GOING TO GET PREGNANT AT THIS TIME, AND IT WAS GOING TO
BE GREAT. >> YOU HAD IT PLANNED. >> I HAD IT PLANNED DOWN TO, LIKE, THE WEEK.
>> MATHISEN WAS THRILLED WHEN SHE LEARNED SHE WAS PREGNANT. EARLY SCANS AND TESTING SHOWED A HEALTHY BABY GIRL.
BUT A ROUTINE FETAL ANATOMY SCAN AT 20 WEEKS DID NOT GO ACCORDING TO PLAN. >> WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU WAS
WRONG. >> HER BRAIN WAS NOT FORMED CORRECTLY. SHE ONLY HAD ONE KIDNEY.
HER SPINE WAS SO BENT THAT IT PUT PRESSURE ON HER HEART. IT WAS HONESTLY A BLUR. I EITHER SAID, IS IT BAD OR IS
IT LETHAL? HER ANSWER IS, IT'S LETHAL, MEANING MY DAUGHTER THAT I PLANNED OUT TO A TEE AND WE HAD
ALREADY STARTED TO GET LITTLE OUTFITS AND BATH TOYS, WAS GOING TO DIE. >> WHAT DID YOU DO?
>> SCREAMED, CRIED, GOT A SECOND OPINION, GOT A THIRD OPINION. AND IT WASN'T A QUESTION AS TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.
IT WAS A QUESTION OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT GETTING ARRESTED. >> A MOTION TO CONCUR --
>> THAT'S BECAUSE JUST TWO WEEKS EARLIER, A NEW TEXAS LAW WENT INTO EFFECT KNOWN AS SB-8, SENATE BILL 8.
>> AND THIS BILL SAYS WE'LL PROTECT THAT LIFE WHEN THAT HEART BEAT IS DETECTED. >> THE LAW BANNED ABORTION AT
SIX WEEKS WITH NO PROVISIONS FOR VICTIMS OF RAPE, INCEST, OR SEVERE FETAL ABNORMALITIES, LIKE DANI'S CASE.
THE LAW ALSO INCLUDED A NOVEL ENFORCEMENT METHOD DEPUTIZING CITIZENS TO SUE PEOPLE FOR AIDING OR ABETTING AN ABORTION
AND REWARDING SUCCESSFUL LAWSUITS WITH A $10,000 BOUNTY. THE BILL INCLUDED AN EXCEPTION FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCIES BUT
DIDN'T DEFINE WHAT THOSE WERE. MATHISEN SAYS HER DOCTOR SEEMED SCARED AND CONFUSED. >> IT WASN'T CLEAR WHAT COUNTED
AS AIDING AND ABETTING SOMEBODY GETTING AN ABORTION. SO, THEY COULDN'T EVEN COUNSEL ME AND SAY, YES, WE RECOMMEND
YOU HAVE AN ABORTION OR AT LEAST LOOK INTO IT, EVEN IF YOU GO TO ANOTHER STATE. >> SO, MATHISEN AND HER HUSBAND
TURNED TO HER MOTHER, THE PHYSICIAN, FOR HELP. SEVERAL CALLS LATER, HER MOM SECURED AN APPOINTMENT FOR HER
TO END HER PREGNANCY AT A CLINIC IN NEIGHBORING NEW MEXICO, A NON-BAN STATE. >> SHE PUT HER LICENSING ON THE
LINE FOR THAT BECAUSE I'M HER BABY? BABY AND THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED SHE BOOKED OUR PLANE TICKET.
SHE BOOKED OUR HOTEL AND GAVE US AN ENVELOPE OF CASH. >> YOU WERE AFRAID TO USE A CREDIT CARD OR HAVE YOUR NAME
ATTACHED TO ANYTHING. >> YEAH. WE PAID FOR THE ABORTION IN CASH SO THAT THERE WASN'T A PAPER
TRAIL OF OUR TEXAS CREDITS PAYING FOR AN ABORTION. >> A YEAR AFTER SB-8 WENT INTO EFFECT AND ROE WAS OVERTURNED,
TEXAS ENACTED ANOTHER, MORE RESTRICTIVE LAW, BANNING ALL ABORTION FROM CONCEPTION EXCEPT WHEN THE MOTHER'S LIFE WAS IN
IMMEDIATE DANGER. IN 2023, DANI MATHISEN JOINED 19 WOMEN WITH SIMILAR STORIES IN A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE TEXAS
GOVERNMENT FOR DENIAL OF CARE. >> IT IS THE FIRST LAWSUIT IN WHICH INDIVIDUAL WOMEN HAVE SUED A STATE --
>> THE LAWSUIT DID NOT SEEK TO OVERTURN THE BANS, RATHER TO CLARIFY WHICH EXCEPTIONS WERE ALLOWED UNDER THE LAW.
>> I WAS IN SEPTIC SHOCK. >> THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT ULTIMATELY REJECTED THEIR CASE. >> MR. SPEAKER --
>> BUT AFTER THE WOMEN FILED THEIR LAWSUIT, TEXAS LEGISLATORS QUIETLY PASSED A NEW LAW TO INCLUDE TWO EXCEPTIONS TO THE
BAN, ONE FOR ECTOPIC PREGNANCIES, WHEN A PREGNANCY OCCURS OUTSIDE THE UTERUS, THE OTHER WHEN A WOMAN'S WATER
BREAKS PREMATURELY. BUT ACCORDING TO THE CLEVELAND CLINIC, THOSE INSTANCES ONLY MAKE UP 5% OF ALL PREGNANCIES.
>> THE INCONSISTENCIES, THE MISUNDERSTANDING, THE CONFUSION, THIS IS WHY WOMEN WILL LOSE THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF THESE
RULES. >> DR. EMILY BRIGGS PRACTICES FAMILY MEDICINE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
>> HEY THERE. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. >> HER OFFICE IS PAPERED WITH
THE PHOTOS OF SOME OF THE BABIES SHE'S DELIVERED OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. SHE'S OVERSEEN HUNDREDS OF
COMPLICATED PREGNANCIES. >> FIVE YEARS AGO I COULD COUNSEL A PATIENT ON ALL OF THE VARIOUS TREATMENT OPTIONS
AVAILABLE IN THESE MEDICALLY COMPLEX SITUATIONS. AND NOW IT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR ME TO HAVE THAT
COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH MY PATIENTS. >> DANGEROUS BECAUSE? >> BECAUSE I PERSONALLY, AS A
FAMILY PHYSICIAN, COULD FACE LOSING MY LICENSE. I COULD FACE LIFE IN PRISON. I COULD FACE HUGE FINES JUST FOR
HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH MY PATIENT ABOUT EVIDENCE-BASED CARE. >> SO FAR THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
NO PHYSICIAN HAS BEEN PROSECUTED FOR VIOLATING THE BAN, WHICH IS A FELONY IN TEXAS. >> HOW DOES THE OFFICE LOOK
TODAY? >> BUT DR. BRIGGS SAYS THE THREAT OF PROSECUTION HAS CREATED SUCH FEAR THAT TODAY
IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR HOSPITALS TO REQUIRE PHYSICIANS TO CONSULT WITH STAFF ATTORNEYS WHEN TREATING COMPLICATED
PREGNANCIES, EVEN MISCARRIAGES. >> THIS IS NOT THE MEDICAL CARE THAT THOSE OF US IN MEDICINE SIGNED UP FOR.
THIS IS NOT WHAT OUR PLAN WAS OR IS WHEN TALKING TO A PATIENT ABOUT THEIR CARE. IT SHOULD BE BETWEEN ME AND THE
PATIENT. THERE'S SO MUCH GUILT WHEN YOU LOSE A PREGNANCY. SO, ADD TO THAT THE SLAP IN THE
FACE OF HAVING THE RISK DEPARTMENT OF THE HOSPITAL COME IN AND BE INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU AND
YOUR PHYSICIAN. AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS FROM OUR LEGISLATURE.
>> WHEN THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS RIGHT NOW, HOW DO YOU PROVEED IN THIS MOMENT?
>> WITH GREAT CAUTION. IN THESE SITUATIONS, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. SHE COULD LOSE HER UTERUS.
SHE COULD LOSE HER LIFE BECAUSE OF THESE SITUATIONS. AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR HANDS TIED AND CAN'T ACT APPROPRIATELY AT
THE MEDICAL APPROPRIATE TIME, WE CAN HAVE WORSENED OUTCOMES. >> TEXAS HAS ONLY RELEASED MATERNAL DEATH DATA THROUGH
2021. ACCORDING TO CDC NUMBERS, AFTER TEXAS RESTRICTED ABORTION, MATERNAL DEATHS ROSE 61% FROM
2019 COMPARED TO 8% NATIONWIDE. DR. EMILY BRIGGS SAYS PHYSICIANS CAN NO LONGER OFFER COMPREHENSIVE MATERNITY CARE TO
WOMEN IN TEXAS. >> HAVE YOU HEARD FROM COLLEAGUES WHO SAY, I DON'T WANT TO PRACTICE MEDICINE IN TEXAS
ANYMORE? >> YES, DEFINITELY. OBSTETRICIANS, FAMILY PHYSICIANS, YES.
>> LAST YEAR, THE NUMBER OF OB/GYN RESIDENT APPLICANTS IN TEXAS DROPPED 16%. >> WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU?
>> THAT SAYS TO ME THAT FUTURE OBSTETRICIANS ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THE COMPLEXITY OF THE RULES IN TEXAS.
SO, NOT ONLY DO THEY NOT WANT TO TRAIN HERE, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THEY WON'T WANT TO PRACTICE HERE.
>> ADRIANNE SMITH, WHO WAS A RESIDENT IN TEXAS, TRANSFERRED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO HOSPITAL THIS YEAR.
SHE TOLD US ONE OF HER LAST CASES IN TEXAS STILL HAUNTS HER. A YOUNG WOMAN WHO BECAME EXTREMELY ILL AFTER SHE TRIED TO
END HER OWN PREGNANCY WITH AN UNKNOWN MEDICATION SHE BOUGHT IN MEXICO. SMITH SPOKE TO A SUPERVISING
PHYSICIAN ABOUT THE CASE. >> I REMEMBER BEING LIKE, I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING MORE I COULD DO FOR HER.
AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS LOOKING TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF SOMEBODY.
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THAT CASE. AND THAT WAS WHEN I REALIZED THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE
LOOKING TO CRIMINALIZE ME FOR THAT AND SEND ME TO JAIL. >> DR. EVE ESPEY IS THE CHAIR OF THE OB/GYN DEPARTMENT AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO. >> WHAT IS IT THAT A RESIDENT CAN LEARN HERE IN NEW MEXICO THAT THEY CAN'T LEARN IN TEXAS?
>> I THINK SO MANY THINGS. THEY LACK AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, DIAGNOSING PREGNANCY
COMPLICATIONS IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER AND IN THE SECOND TRIMESTER. THEY MISS MISCARRIAGE CARE,
PREGNANCY -- THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. >> THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW HOW TO DO.
>> REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO. >> THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF THE TRAINING REQUIRED TO BECOME A
CERTIFIED OB/GYN ANYWHERE IN THE U.S. BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM. IN TEXAS, SOME TRAINING IS NO
LONGER OFFERED BECAUSE OF THE NEW LAWS. THAT MEANS OB/GYN RESIDENTS NOW HAVE TO LEAVE THE STATE FOR TWO
TO FOUR WEEK ROTATIONS TO GET THE REQUIRED TRAINING. >> IS THAT LONG ENOUGH TO REALLY LEARN THE LESSONS OF ALL THESE
VARIOUS THINGS YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED? >> NO, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME. I MEAN, OUR RESIDENTS HAVE A
DEDICATED ROTATION IN THE FIRST YEAR, IN THE FOURTH YEAR, BUT THEY ARE WORKING ALONGSIDE OF US THROUGHOUT THEIR FOUR YEARS OF
RESIDENCY. >> AND DR. ESPEY SAYS HER HOSPITAL ISN'T JUST ABSORBING MORE RESIDENTS.
DATA SHOWS MORE THAN 34,000 TEXAS WOMEN TRAVELLED OUT OF STATE FOR CARE LAST YEAR. >> WE'VE SEEN AN ENORMOUS
INCREASE IN OUR OUT-OF-STATE PATIENT VOLUME. JUST IN CALENDAR YEAR 2023 COMPARED TO 2019, WE SAW AN OVER
300% INCREASE. >> 300%? >> OVER A 300% INCREASE. AND WE -- YOU KNOW, ON ANY GIVEN
DAY IN 2023, 70% -- 71% -- OF OUR PATIENTS WERE FROM TEXAS. >> TODAY, WOMEN MAKING THAT JOURNEY FACE EVEN MORE RISKS.
SIX TEXAS COUNTIES HAVE IMPOSED TRAVEL BANS, WHICH THREATEN LEGAL ACTION AGAINST ANYONE HELPING TO TRANSPORT WOMEN OUT
OF STATE FOR ABORTION SERVICES. TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN PAXTON HAS FILED A LAWSUIT DEMANDING ACCESS TO THE MEDICAL
RECORDS OF WOMEN LEAVING THE STATE FOR THAT CARE. WE REACHED OUT TO PAXTON'S OFFICE MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE
LAST TWO MONTHS TO ASK ABOUT THE ISSUE AND GOT NO RESPONSE. >> SO, MANY OF THE PATIENT WHO IS COME TO US THAT WE DIAGNOSE
WITH A MISCARRIAGE, THEY'RE LIKE, I'M DONE WITH TEXAS. I WANT MY CARE HERE. I CAN'T TRUST MY OWN DOCTOR TO
TAKE CARE OF ME FOR A MISCARRIAGE OR A PREGNANCY COMPLICATION. >> WHAT'S THE CULTURE HERE?
>> DANI MATHISEN WAS ONE OF THEM. AFTER THE LOSS OF HER BABY IN TEXAS, SHE AND HER HUSBAND MOVED
TO HAWAII TO BEGIN HER OB/GYN RESIDENCY AND START A FAMILY. >> I DID NOT WANT TO BE PREGNANT IN TEXAS.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. I THINK I KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT CAN GO WRONG IN A PREGNANCY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING
PREGNANT IN TEXAS. >> EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE MATHISENS WELCOMED EMERSON, A HEALTHY BABY GIRL.
DR. EMILY BRIGGS IS URGING TEXAS LAWMAKERS TO WORK WITH DOCTORS. >> WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THIS FROM A PARTISAN STANDPOINT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE ENEMIES. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AS WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS SAFER FOR WOMEN IN TEXAS
JUST BY MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THESE RULES. >> IF NOTHING CHANGES, THEN WHAT?
>> WE LOSE PHYSICIANS IN TEXAS. WE LOSE HEALTHY MOTHERS. WE LOSE FAMILIES IN GENERAL. >> IT'S ALREADY SCARY TO DECIDE
TO BECOME PREGNANT. THROW ON TOP OF THAT THAT IF SOMETHING MEDICALLY COMPLEX HAPPENED, YOU COULD LOSE YOUR
LIFE AND NOT HAVE THE CARE THAT YOU DESERVE. WHY WOULD ANYBODY STAY FOR THAT? [ STOPWATCH TICKING ]
>>> IT HAS THE RING OF A HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN FAIRY TALE, A SUPREMELY IRONIC ONE.
TINY DENMARK IS HOME TO 6 MILLION OF THE WORLD'S WEALTHIEST AND HEALTHIEST PEOPLE, ALL THOSE
MUESLI-MUNCHING CYCLISTS. DENMARK IS ALSO HOME TO WHAT IS SUDDENLY EUROPE'S LARGEST COMPANY, NOVO NORDISK, A STORM
SUIT CAL PHARMACEUTICAL FIRM. NOVO'S DRUGS, OZEMPIC AND WEGOVY AND SLIMMED DOWN HOLLYWOOD STARS
AND MILLIONS OF NON-CELEBRITIES WORLDWIDE, WHILE ADDING GREAT HEFT TO THE ECONOMY. WE TRAVELLED TO THE BALTIC TO
SEE HOW A COUNTRY WITH A SLENDER EGO IS COPING WITH THIS UNLIKELY INJECTION OF FANTASTIC WEALTH. JUST ANOTHER COPENHAGEN COMMUTER
HEADED OFF TO WORK IN THE MORNING, LOTTE KNUDSEN. UNDERSTANDING MATTERS, AS ONE DOES IN DENMARK, YOU'D NEVER
KNOW SHE IS IS SCIENTIST WHOSE RESEARCH AT NOVO NORDISK LED TO PERHAPS THE MOST REVOLUTIONARY DRUG THIS CENTURY.
>> I'M SO GRATEFUL. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A NERDY LITTLE SCIENTIST WHO, KIND OF, FOUND HOME HERE IN THIS COMPANY FOR 35
YEARS. >> IS THAT REALLY YOUR SENSE OF SELF STILL THESE DAYS? >> I'M PROUD BUT I'M ALSO HUMBLE
AND REALLY VERY FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. >> MODESTY ASIDE, HER DISCOVERIES HELPED CREATE
OZEMPIC AND WEGOVY, WHICH NOT ONLY TREAT TYPE II DIABETES, BUT ARE NOW APPROVED FOR TREATING KIDNEY AND LIVER DISEASE AS
WELL. THIS, OF COURSE, HAS MADE HER A BILLION -- NOT SO FAST. >> I'M ACTUALLY NOT SUPER
INTERESTED IN ACTUALLY HAVING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. I DON'T THINK THAT -- IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S MAKING PEOPLE
HAPPY. >> MONEY'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU? >> I LIKE TO PAY MY TAXES.
I LIKE THE SOCIETY WE LIVE IN. I LIKE THERE IS EQUAL ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. I REALLY LIKE THAT.
>> LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY. THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROTTEN IN THE STATE OF DENMARK.
THIS IS THE LAND THAT GAVE US LEGO, PROVINCE OF PEDALING, ALL FISHING NETS AND SAFETY NETS. AND TODAY NOVO NORDISK'S SUCCESS
AND THE SPIKING DEMAND FOR OZEMPIC IS FATTENING THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMY, CREATING THOUSANDS OF JOBS, BOLSTERING
NATIONAL PENSIO PLANS, KEEPING MORTGAGE RATES LOW. NOVO HAS A MARKET CAP HIGHER THAN THE COUNTRY'S GDP, GIVING
RISE TO A NEW NATIONAL EMBLEM, DRUGS SO POPULAR THEY'VE BECOME EMBEDDED IN POP CULTURE, AT LEAST IN THE U.S., WHERE THE
COMPANY ADVERTISES REGULARLY. IN DENMARK, PHARMACEUTICAL ADVERTISING IS ILLEGAL. >> THIS IS VERY, VERY UNFAMILIAR
FOR DANISH PERSONS. >> THIS KIND OF ADVERTISEMENT, THEY WOULDN'T LIKE IT. IT'S NOT VERY DANISH.
>> PETER LUND MARSEN IS A CELEBRATED WRITER, LIKE MOST DANES DELIGHTED THAT AMERICA'S DEMAND FOR NOVO NORDISK'S DRUGS
IS DENMARK'S GAIN. >> HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS COMPANY FITS IN THE DANISH NATIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS RIGHT
NOW. >> NOVO IS A PART OF DENMARK. BECAUSE WE'RE A SMALL COUNTRY. AND FINALLY WE HAVE A BIG
COMPANY IN EUROPE, MUCH BIGGER THAN ANYTHING THE SWEDES HAVE. >> YOU CAN HOLD IT OVER THE SWEDES.
>> THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD CARS AND AIRPLANES AND BIG COMPANIES. NOW WE HAVE NOVO. >> TAKE THAT IKEA.
>> YES, YES. IT'S THE FIRST TIME. >> THE COMPANY WAS FOUNDED IN THE EARLY 1920s BY AUGUST KROGH,
A NOBLE LAUREATE, AND LIKE HIS WIFE, MARIE, A DOCTOR. MARIE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH DIABETES.
AT THE TIME, A DEATH SENTENCE. >> THIS DRUG THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE HELPED SAVE THE LIFE OF MARIE.
>> IT DID. SHE WAS VERY DISCREET ABOUT IT. SHE DID NOT WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW THAT SHE WAS DIABETIC BECAUSE
MARIE WAS A DOCTOR. SHE WAS NOT A PATIENT. >> HANNE SINBAEK HAS WRITTEN TWO BOOKS ABOUT NOVO NORDISK AND THE
KROGHS. >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS ORIGIN STORY OF NOVO NORDISK STARTS AS A LOVE STORY?
>> IT IS ABSOLUTELY FAIR TO SAY. HE WAS TEACHING HER, AS SHE WAS A MEDICAL STUDENT. HE FELL IN LOVE WITH HER RIGHT
AWAY. >> WHEN IN 1922 THEY HEARD THAT CANADIAN SCIENTISTS HAVE STUMBLED UPON A MIRACLE CURE FOR
DIABETES, INSULIN, THEY TRAVELLED TO TORONTO AND CAME HOME WITH THE RIGHT TO MANUFACTURE THE DRUG IN
SCANDINAVIA. >> SOUNDS VERY NICE OF THE CANADIAN SCIENTISTS. DID THEY ASK FOR ANYTHING ELSE
IN RETURN? >> THEY ASKED THAT NOBODY SHOULD -- PERSON SHOULD PROFIT FROM IT.
IT SHOULD BE TO THE BENEFIT OF HUMANITY. THAT WAS THE PRICE, YOU CAN SAY. IT WAS A WAY TO GET THIS
LIFE-SAVING DRUG OUT IN THE WORLD FAST. >> BACK IN DENMARK WITHIN MONTHS, THEY SET UP THE IN ORDER
IS K INSULIN COMPANY. IN KEEPING WITH THEIR AGREEMENT, THEY ESTABLISHED A NON-PROFIT FOUNDATION WHICH TODAY CONTROLS
77% OF THE COMPANY'S VOTING SHARES. >> SO, THE AGREEMENT WAS IF THERE WAS RECEIPT FROM THE SALES
OF INSULIN HERE IN SCANDINAVIA, IT SHOULD BE RETURNED TO SOCIETY IN THE FORM OF SUPPORT FOR RESEARCH.
>> MADS KROGSGAARD IS THE FOUNDATION CEO. TODAY IT IS LARGEST PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATION IN
THE WORLD, BIGGER THAN THE GATES FOUNDATION. >> THIS IS A 384 PLATE. >> WHILE NOVO NORDISK ALWAYS
FOCUSED ON DIABETES DRUGS, IT DID BRANCH OUT BEYOND MEDICINE. IN THE YOUNG 80s, YOUNG MUNSON WAS -- REDS AND WHITES DIDN'T
RUN IN THE WASH. >> YOU STARTED WITH LAUNDRY DETERGENT. >> YES, I DID.
YEAH. IT'S THE SAME STORY OF JUST WANTING TO MAKE THE PRODUCT THAT'S USEFUL.
>> IN THE EARLY '90s, SHE CAME ACROSS A NEW STUDY ABOUT A NATURALLY OCCURRING GUT HORMONE, GLP-1, THAT LOWERED BLOOD SUGAR
LEVELS AND SUPPRESSED APPETITE. SHE THOUGHT IF IT COULD BE HARNESSED INTO A DRUG, IT COULD REVOLUTIONIZE TREATMENT FOR
DIABETES AND OBESITY. SHE WENT TO HER BOSS, MADS KROGSGAARD, THE SAME GUY WHO HEADS THE FOUNDATION.
>> WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT HER? >> SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO MARCH INTO MY OFFICE WITH RED
HAIR, VERY FIRED UP. SHE OFFERED ME A PUBLICATION THAT WAS NOT EVEN PUBLISHED YET. SHE WAS TALKING VERY AGITATINGLY
ABOUT THIS AND I WAS GETTING EXCITED. >> I UNDERSTAND YOU HAD TO CONVINCE SENIOR MANAGE ABOUT
THIS. >> THEY FELT, JUST GO UP AND DO SOME JOGGING, DO SOME BIKING. >> JUST GET OFF THE COUCH AND
EXERCISE. >> YEAH. AND I STARTED TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM THAT IT'S NOT GETTING ON
THE BIKE. IF YOU'RE GENETICALLY PREDISPOSED LIVING IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE TODAY, YOU'RE
AT VERY HIGH RISK. >> FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THEY WORKED ON THAT GLP-1 MOLECULE BEFORE OZEMPIC FINALLY MADE IT
TO MARKET AS A TYPE II DIABETES DRUG. IT TOOK ANOTHER FOUR YEARS FOR WEGOVY TO BE APPROVED FOR WEIGHT
LOSS. IT TURNED NOVO NORDISK FROM A NICHE PLAYER TO A COMPANY BIGGER THAN COCA-COLA AND PROCTER &
GAMBLE. THE CEO IS LARS FRUERGAARD JORGENSEN. HIS OFFICE IS A COWORKING SPACE
ATOP NOVO'S COPENHAGEN HEADQUARTERS, DESIGNED IN THE SHAPE OF AN INSULIN MOLECULE. >> SO, YOUR NEXT BUILDING NEEDS
TO BE THE MOLECULE OF AN ANTIOBESITY DRUG. >> YES, YES, IT SHOULD BE. >> JORGENSEN IS ONLY THE FIFTH
CHIEF EXECUTIVE SINCE THE COMPANY WAS FOUNDED. ASK HIM ABOUT THE WEIGHT OF THE JOB, AND NO CEO GOD COMPLEX
HERE. HE DEFAULTS TO THE COMPANY MANTRA, THE NOVO NORDISK WAY. >> THE NOVO NORDISK WAY IS THE
BASIC THINKING OF OUR FOUNDERS. AND -- LINKED TO HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER, HOW WE COLLABORATE, AND THAT'S ABOUT BEING OPEN AND
HONEST. IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING ACCOUNTABLE. >> IT SOUNDS ALMOST LIKE A CULT,
A RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT, AND NOT SO MUCH A PHARMACEUTICAL FIRM. >> I THINK THE VALUES ARE BASED ON ORDINARY HUMAN DESCECENT VAL.
>> YOU APPRECIATE YOU'RE NOT SOUNDING VERY MUCH LIKE AN AMERICAN CEO RIGHT NOW. >> WELL, I THINK I'M VERY
GROUNDED AS AN INDIVIDUAL. MY UPBRINGING HAS GIVEN ME A LOT OF, SAY -- >> AND IN DENMARK, CHIEF
EXECUTIVES ARE EXPECTED TO BE GROUNDED. >> IN DENMARK, IT'S VERY UNRESPECTABLE TO FLASH YOUR
MONEY. RICH PEOPLE IN DENMARK, THEY TEND TO BUY CHEAPER CARS IN ORDER TO STAY OUT OF TROUBLE.
>> SO, THE CEO OF NOVO NORDISK, IF HE'S DRIVING AROUND COPENHAGEN IN A FERRARI OR A LIMOUSINE, HOW DOES THAT PLAY?
>> POOR LICLY. BUT THE OTHER WAY AROUND IS IF HE WAS DRIVING AROUND IN A CHEAP CAR, THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD
THING FOR HIM. OH, I LIKE HE'S DRIVING SUCH A CAR. HE'S A TRUE DANE.
>> FOR ALL OF NOVO NORDISK'S DANISH HIGH MINDEDNESS, THERE IS A GROWING CHORUS OF COMPLAINT IN AMERICA.
>> STOP RIPPING US OFF. >> AS AN AVOWED SOCIALIST, BERNIE SANDERS MAY FIND PLENTY TO LIKE ABOUT DENMARK.
BUT AT A SENATE HEARING IN SEPTEMBER, SANDERS EXCORIATED JORGENSEN ABOUT PRICE GOUGING. THE CEO SAID IT WOULD SAVE
TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND IF ANYTHING IS TO BLAME FOR THE HIGH PRICES, IT'S THE FRACTURED U.S. HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM. >> WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO THE SKEPTICAL AMERICAN THAT SAYS, COME ON.
THIS IS BIG PHARMA. THIS IS PRICING IS PREDATORY. THEY'RE MAKING MONEY OFF PEOPLE WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS.
THIS IS NOT UTOPIA. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER BIG, GREEDY BUSINESS. >> OF COURSE IT'S GREEDY.
YOU HAVE TO COMPETE IN THE WORLD AS IT IS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT NOVO NORDISK HAS ALL THESE VALUES
JUST TO BE NICE. THEY HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S GOOD BUSINESS. >> THEY'RE NOT BLIND TO
CAPITALISM. THERE WILL BE -- >> YOU CAN BE A CAPITALIST WITH GREAT VALUES.
>> TO KEEP UP WITH THE GLOBAL DEMAND FOR NOVO'S DRUGS -- LESS THAN 1% OF SALES COME FROM INSIDE DENMARK -- THE COMPANY IS
SINKING BILLIONS INTO NEW PLANTS WORLDWIDE. JUST A FEW MILES DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE CRANES IN THE DANISH
COUNTRYSIDE SITS THIS QUINTESSENTIAL SCANDINAVIAN INSTITUTION. HALF BOARDING SCHOOL, HALF
SUMMER CAMP, AND STATE SUBSIDIZED, OF COURSE. IT'S A HEALTH FACILITY FOR THE SMALL PORTION OF DANES WHO ARE
DIAGNOSED WITH OBESITY. RECENTLY ENROLLMENT HAS DECLINED BY ALMOST HALF. AND SOME OF THE EMPTY BEDS ARE
BEING FILLED BY, GET THIS, NEWLY RECRUITED NOVO EMPLOYEES, AS THEY TRY TO FIND PERMANENT HOUSING.
>> THAT'S A WAY WE CAN GAIN A LITTLE MONEY. NOW WE HAVE LESS STUDENTS. >> BIT OF AN IRONY, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, IT IS. >> LARS JORGENSEN HAS BEEN A LIFE COACH FOR 30 YEARS. >> WHEN YOU HEARD THESE DRUGS
WERE COMING ON THE MARKET FROM DENMARK, DID YOU THINK, THIS COULD IMPACT US? >> YES, IT DID.
>> IF SOMEBODY SAYS I'M GOING TO TAKE THESE ANTI-OBESITY DRUGS RATHER THAN COME HERE, WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THEM?
>> I WOULD TELL THEM TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MADE YOU EAT TOO MUCH IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
WHY DO YOU NEED TO TAKE MEDICINE? FOR SOME PEOPLE IT WOULD BE A PERFECT SOLUTION, NO DOUBT ABOUT
THAT. BUT FOR MANY PEOPLE, IT WILL NOT BE. THEY STILL HAVE THE PROBLEM.
OBESITY IS JUST A SYMPTOM. >> IT GOES WAY BEYOND WHAT THE SCALE SAYS. >> EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
>> ON A MORE MACRO LEVEL, NOVO NORDISK'S RUN AWAY SUCCESS IS SHRINKING ENTIRE SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY, FAST FOOD, EVEN KRISPY
KREME. THEY'RE ALREADY TIGHTENING THEIR BELTS. STILL, THERE ARE COMPETITORS AND
COUNTERFEITS OUT THERE. AND CHINESE COMPANIES ARE ALREADY IN CLINICAL TRIALS FOR GENERICS.
BUT FOR NOW, THE WORLD'S WEIGHT SURPLUS REMAINS THE DANES AND PETER LUND MADSEN'S ECONOMIC SURPLUS.
>> DO YOU OWN NOVO NORDISK STOCK? >> YES, I HAVE FOR MANY YEARS, LIKE MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN
DENMARK. >> HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT YOUR INVESTMENT? >> EVERYBDY HAS THE FEELING
THIS WILL GO ON FOREVER. THEY'RE VERY YES HEAVY. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ]
>>> THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTH CARE, RELIABLE COVERAGE
FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD. >>> OUR LAST MINUTE IS A NOTE ON ELECTION DAY 160 YEARS AGO. IN 1864, THE CIVIL WAR WASN'T
GOING WELL, AND EVERYONE KNEW ABRAHAM LINCOLN WOULD NOT BE RE-ELECTED. SO, LINCOLN WROTE A MEMO, FOLDED
IT CLOSED, SEALED IT, AND MADE HIS CABINET SIGN THE BACK. NONE OF THEM KNEW WHAT THEY WERE ENDORSING.
THE MEMO READS IN PART, IT SEEMS EXCEEDINGLY PROBABLE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT BE RE-ELECTED.
THEN IT WILL BE MY DUTY TO SO COOPERATE WITH THE PRESIDENT-ELECT AS TO SAVE THE UNION BETWEEN THE ELECTION AND
THE INAUGURATION. LINCOLN WAS RE-ELECTED. SO, IT WAS NEVER NECESSARY TO OPEN HIS SECRET SOLEMN VOW TO A
PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER, EVEN WHILE THE NATION WAS AT WAR WITH ITSELF. I'M SCOTT