1 00:00:01,968 --> 00:00:16,049 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> WHEN THE POLICE OFFICER SAID, WE FOUND YOUR HUSBAND'S DNA, THAT MUST HAVE HIT YOU AS 2 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:24,224 QUITE A SHOCK. >> IT WAS A SHOCK THAT THEY'D BEEN LOOKING ALL THESE 22 YEARS. >> NOT MANY ARE AWARE, BUT MORE 3 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:30,964 THAN 1,000 FAMILIES STILL WAIT FOR WORD OF A MISSING LOVED ONE FROM 9/11. AND THE WORK TO IDENTIFY THEIR 4 00:00:31,030 --> 00:00:39,906 REMAINS HAS NEVER STOPPED. >> THESE REMAINS WENT THROUGH EVERY POSSIBLE THING THAT COULD DESTROY DNA AT GROUND ZERO, 5 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:45,645 MAKING THIS NOT ONLY THE LARGEST FORENSIC INVESTIGATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES BUT THE MOST DIFFICULT. 6 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:51,317 >> SOME OF THESE WORLD TRADE CENTER REMAINS HAVE BEEN TESTED HOW MANY TIMES? >> 10, 15 TIMES. 7 00:00:51,384 --> 00:00:56,122 >> WITHOUT A RESULT? >> WITHOUT A RESULT. >> BUT IF THERE'S DNA, WE'RE GOING TO FIND IT. 8 00:00:56,189 --> 00:01:04,330 WE'RE GOING TO FIND IT, WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE A PROFILE. MAY TAKE US A WHILE. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 9 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:16,643 >>> AND ACTION. >> NAME AN A LIST STAR OF THE STAGE OR SCREEN TODAY, ODDS ARE BLOOMING GOOD THEY'VE COME FROM 10 00:01:16,709 --> 00:01:19,879 THE LAND DOWN UNDER. >> YOU KILLED SOMEONE. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU, AREN'T THERE? 11 00:01:19,946 --> 00:01:27,887 >> YEAH, THERE'S A FEW OF US OUT THERE. >> FEWER PEOPLE IN TEXAS. >> REALLY? 12 00:01:27,954 --> 00:01:30,457 STOP IT. REALLY? >> YOU GUYS ARE DOING PRETTY WELL FOR YOURSELF. 13 00:01:30,523 --> 00:01:36,696 >> NOT SO BAD, NOT SO BAD, HUH. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. >> I'M BILL WHITAKER. 14 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:43,670 >> I'M ANDERSON COOPER. >> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI. >> I'M JON WERTHEIM. >> I'M SCOTT PELLEY. 15 00:01:43,736 --> 00:01:59,986 THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON THIS SPECIAL 90-MINUTE EDITION OF "60 >>> THIS PAST WEEK, REPUBLICANS 16 00:02:00,053 --> 00:02:09,462 WON THE HOUSE MAJORITY, AND PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP MADE NOMINATIONS TO HIS CABINET. SOME NOMINEES APPEAR TO HAVE NO 17 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:20,573 COMPELLING QUALIFICATIONS OTHER THAN LOYALTY TO TRUMP. THE NOMINEES ARE SENATOR MARCO RUBIO FOR SECRETARY OF STATE, 18 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:24,844 PETE HEGSETH TO LEAD THE 3 MILLION PEOPLE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. HE'S A COMBAT VETERAN, MOST 19 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:32,418 RECENTLY A MORNING SHOW HOST ON FOX NEWS WITH NO GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. FORMER CONGRESSMAN MATT GAETZ 20 00:02:32,485 --> 00:02:39,092 FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CHARGE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. GAETZ HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY REPUBLICANS FOR ALLEGED DRUG USE 21 00:02:39,158 --> 00:02:49,235 AND SEX WITH A MINOR. GAETZ DENIES THOSE ALLEGATIONS. FORMER CONGRESSWOMAN TULSI GABBARD FOR DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL 22 00:02:49,302 --> 00:02:56,809 INTELLIGENCE. SHE SOUGHT A PARDON FOR EDWARD SNOWDEN, WHO LEAKED U.S. SECRETS AND NOW LIVES IN RUSSIA. 23 00:02:56,876 --> 00:03:04,183 AND ROBERT KENNEDY JR. FOR SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, A SKEPTIC OF VACCINATIONS. 24 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:13,326 IT'S UP TO THE NEW REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN THE SENATE TO DECIDE WHETHER THESE NOMINEES ARE EQUIPPED TO REPRESENT THE 25 00:03:13,393 --> 00:03:21,601 AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT SEEMS HARD TO REMEMBER WHEN AMERICA WAS UNITED. BUT RECENTLY, WE WERE REMINDED 26 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:31,511 OF SUCH A TIME, THE MORNING OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001, WHEN ALL AMERICANS PLEDGED TO PERSEVERE TOGETHER. 27 00:03:31,578 --> 00:03:40,019 NEARLY A QUARTER CENTURY AGO, THE NEW YORK CITY OFFICE OF THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER MADE A PROMISE TO IDENTIFY THE REMAINS 28 00:03:40,086 --> 00:03:50,330 OF THE LOST SOULS OF 9/11. NOT MANY ARE AWARE, BUT THAT WORK HAS NEVER STOPPED. TODAY MORE THAN 1,000 FAMILIES 29 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:59,505 STILL WAIT FOR WORD, AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO MEET TWO FOR WHOM THE PROMISE WAS KEPT. THE MOST RECENT IDENTIFICATION 30 00:03:59,572 --> 00:04:13,820 CAME THIS PAST DECEMBER, WHEN ELLEN ELLEN ELLEN NIVEN. 31 00:04:13,886 --> 00:04:19,959 HER HUSBAND JOHN HAD BEEN MISSING 22 YEARS. >> JOHN WAS MY HUSBAND. I MET HIM WHEN I WAS 24 YEARS 32 00:04:20,026 --> 00:04:33,873 OLD AND HAD MOVED TO NEW YORK. DESCRIBED BY PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM AS A GENTLEMAN, VERY OLD SCHOOL, OLD SOUL, WONDERFUL FATHER, VERY 33 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:48,187 HAPPY WITH WE HAD OUR YOUNG SON AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH HIM. GREAT FRIEND TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. 34 00:04:48,254 --> 00:05:04,871 >> JOHN NIVEN BOUND FOR HIS OFFICE ON THE 105th FLOOR OF THE SOUTH TOWER, AS THE TERRORIST ATTACK BEGAN. 35 00:05:04,937 --> 00:05:09,275 . >> THE FIRST BUILDING WAS HIT. JOHN WAS IN THE SECOND BUILDING. >> THE SOUTH TOWER, YES. 36 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:14,480 >> AND HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CALL YOU? >> YES. HE SAID, HI, HONEY, IT'S ME. 37 00:05:14,547 --> 00:05:21,454 IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING ON THE NEWS, DON'T WORRY. I'M OKAY. IT WAS THE OTHER BUILDING. 38 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:31,864 >> IN THE OTHER BUILDING, A DIFFERENT FAMILY TRAGEDY WAS UNFOLDING. 25-YEAR-OLD HABERMAN, ANDREA L., 39 00:05:31,931 --> 00:05:38,337 HAD JUST RECEIVED A VISITOR PASS ON HER FIRST TRIP TO HER COMPANY'S HEADQUARTERS ON THE 92nd FLOOR. 40 00:05:38,404 --> 00:05:46,479 BACK HOME IN CHICAGO, ANDY, AS HER FAMILY CALLED HER, HAD JUST BEEN FITTED FOR HER WEDDING DRESS. 41 00:05:46,546 --> 00:05:55,488 IN WISCONSIN, HER MOTHER, KATHY, WAS WATCHING THE NEWS. >> I WAS SHOCKED, AND I RAN UPSTAIRS TO WAKE UP GORDY TO 42 00:05:55,555 --> 00:06:06,499 TELL HIM. AND THEN I CAME BACK DOWNSTAIRS JUST IN TIME TO SEE THE SECOND PLANE HIT. 43 00:06:06,566 --> 00:06:15,441 >> THAT WAS UNITED FLIGHT 175, AS GORDON HABERMAN JOINED HIS WIFE. >> I THREW A CUP AGAINST THE 44 00:06:15,508 --> 00:06:20,313 WALL. I REMEMBER THAT. THING IS, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TOWER SHE WAS IN. 45 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:33,559 WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE SHE WAS. >> THE SEARCH FOR ANDREA HABERMAN, JOHN NIVEN, AND NEARLY 3,000 OTHERS WOULD BECOME THE 46 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:40,166 PASSION OF DR. CHARLES HIRSCH, THE CITY'S CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER. HE RACED TO THE BASE OF THE 47 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:46,806 BURNING TOWERS WITH A TEAM THAT INCLUDED A YOUNG SCIENTIST NAMED MARK DESIRE. >> BOTH TOWERS WERE STANDING. 48 00:06:46,873 --> 00:06:54,514 THEY WERE ON FIRE. WE PARKED OUR TRUCK. WE SET UP A TEMPORARY WARD AND BEGAN TO PRESERVE THE EVIDENCE. 49 00:06:54,580 --> 00:07:03,790 WASN'T DOWN THERE VERY LONG. I JUST RECEIVED OUR ORDERS FROM DR. HIRSCH. I COULD SEE THE STEEL AND THE 50 00:07:03,856 --> 00:07:12,398 FIRE COMING DOWN, AND I THOUGHT, THIS IS IT. THIS IS HOW I DIE. >> THE SOUTH TOWER, WITH JOHN 51 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:24,811 NIVEN INSIDE, FOUNDERED AFTER 56 MINUTES. >> AS YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM THE COLLAPSING SOUTH TOWER, YOU 52 00:07:24,877 --> 00:07:31,617 WERE HEADING FOR A DOOR IN AN ADJACENT BUILDING AND THEN YOU GOT BLASTED OFF YOUR FEET. >> YEAH, JUST KNOCKED ME RIGHT 53 00:07:31,684 --> 00:07:36,956 OUT OF MY SHOES. NEVER MADE IT TO THE DOOR, BUT IT WAS ENOUGH TO GET ME THROUGH THE -- PARTIALLY THROUGH THE 54 00:07:37,023 --> 00:07:42,295 WINDOW, WHICH REALLY WOULD SAVE MY LIFE. IF I WAS ON THE OUTSIDE, EVERYTHING THAT CAME IN ACROSS 55 00:07:42,361 --> 00:07:50,870 MY LEGS WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME OUT. >> THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S TEAM SURVIVED. THAT'S MARK DESIRE IN THE MIDDLE 56 00:07:50,937 --> 00:08:00,213 IN THE GREEN SHIRT. THE NORTH TOWER IN THE DISTANCE IS MINUTES FROM COLLAPSE. ANDREA 57 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:08,487 ANDREA HABERMAN IS INSIDE. HER PARENTS, HER SISTER, JULIE, AND FIANCE, AL, DROVE 16 HOURS TO MANHATTAN, WHERE THEY PICKED 58 00:08:08,554 --> 00:08:19,732 UP A LIST OF HOSPITALS. >> BUT WITH THOSE LISTS OF MEDICAL CENTERS, CKATHY AND I SPLIT UP AND JULIE AND AL 59 00:08:19,799 --> 00:08:31,143 CHECKED THE WEST SIDE OF BROADWAY, AND WE TOOK THE EAST SIDE. 32 DIFFERENT -- WORKING OUR WAY 60 00:08:31,210 --> 00:08:38,351 DOWN TO MANHATTAN. OF COURSE THE ANSWERS WERE -- >> NO. >> -- NO. 61 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:49,495 >> NO. FOR ANDREA HABERMAN AND THOUSANDS OF OTHERS, MANHATTAN WAS PAPERED IN PLEAS FOR THE 62 00:08:49,562 --> 00:08:55,701 MISSING. AND LONGING REMAINED AFTER HOPE HAD WASHED AWAY. >> EVERYBODY HAS A FLYER. 63 00:08:55,768 --> 00:09:04,810 EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR THEIR PEOPLE. >> FAMILIES LINED UP AT A NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY AND WAITED 64 00:09:04,877 --> 00:09:17,290 HOURS TO GIVE DNA SAMPLES TO THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. >> 17,000 -- 17,000 REFERENCE SAMPLES, TOOTH BRUSHES, RAZORS, 65 00:09:17,356 --> 00:09:22,428 HAIR BRUSHES, ANYTHING THAT THE PERSON TOUCHED WHEN THEY WERE ALIVE. IF WE COULDN'T GET ONE OF THOSE 66 00:09:22,495 --> 00:09:29,802 SAMPLES, WHAT LIVING RELATIVES DO WE HAVE? MOMS AND DADS, KIDS. >> THERE WAS A DNA SWAB DONE OF 67 00:09:29,869 --> 00:09:36,442 MY YOUNG SON, JAX, CHEEK. YOU FILLED OUT DESCRIPTIONS. YOU GAVE PHOTOGRAPHS. WE FILLED OUT MANY, MANY FORMS. 68 00:09:36,509 --> 00:09:41,347 >> THEY SWABBED YOUR SON'S CHEEK FOR DNA. >> YES. >> HOW OLD WAS HE? 69 00:09:41,414 --> 00:09:55,261 >> 18 MONTHS. >> HIS FATHER WAS AMONG THOSE ENTOMBED IN A MOUNTAIN OF MISERY. 70 00:09:55,328 --> 00:10:05,137 NEARLY 2 MILLION TONS OF DEBRIS WERE SEARCHED BY HAND FOR HUMAN REMAINS. AFTER A YEAR, THEY THOUGHT THEY 71 00:10:05,204 --> 00:10:15,214 HAD FOUND EVERYTHING. BUT THEN IN 2006, THERE WAS A SHOCKING REVELATION. BONE FRAGMENTS ON THE ROOF OF A 72 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:21,821 BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM GROUND ZERO. THE MEDICAL EXAMINER SENT ANTHROPOLOGIST BRADLEY ADAMS. 73 00:10:21,887 --> 00:10:29,762 >> WE ENDED UP GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE ROOFTOP, AND WE FOUND OVER 700 SMALL BONE FRAGMENTS ON THAT ROOFTOP. 74 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:33,933 AND THEN WE ENDED UP -- YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S REMAINS THERE, WE NEED TO SEARCH OTHER AREAS. 75 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:41,040 SO, WE WENT THROUGH EVERY FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING, EVEN TO THE POINT OF HAVING VACUUM CLEANERS AND VACUUMING UP DUST AND 76 00:10:41,107 --> 00:10:48,180 DEBRIS. >> THE REMAINS ON THE DEUTSCHE BANK BUILDING WERE FROM AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11. 77 00:10:48,247 --> 00:10:57,656 THE DISCOVERY PROMPTED A NEW SEARCH FOR CLUES AT GROUND ZERO. >> COMPUTER FLOPPY DISKS OR GOLF BALLS OR PARTS OF OFFICE 78 00:10:57,723 --> 00:11:02,094 FURNITURE THAT WOULD BE BURIED THERE. AND IF YOU'RE SEEING THAT, THEN YOU KNOW THERE'S THE POTENTIAL 79 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:10,636 THERE COULD BE HUMAN REMAINS MIXED IN WITH THIS WORLD TRADE CENTER DEBRIS. >> FIVE YEARS AFTER THE ATTACK, 80 00:11:10,703 --> 00:11:22,681 BRAD ADAMS BEGAN COLLECTING 18,000 TONS OF EXCAVATION MATERIAL OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. 81 00:11:22,748 --> 00:11:27,686 75 ANTHROPOLOGISTS WASHED IT THROUGH SCREENS. >> HOW MANY HUMAN REMAINS DID YOU FIND IN THAT PROJECT? 82 00:11:27,753 --> 00:11:35,027 >> THERE WAS THE 700 ON DEUTSCHE BANK AND THEN OVER 1,000 MORE WERE FOUND DURING THE SIFTING OPERATIONS. 83 00:11:35,094 --> 00:11:47,373 >> ALTOGETHER, THE TOTAL WORLD TRADE CENTER REMAINS CAME TO 21,905. >> THE RECOVERY EFFORTS HAD BEEN 84 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,212 MONUMENTAL, AND THERE WAS AN UNPRECEDENTED EVENT. AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE GREATEST MASS MURDER IN THE 85 00:11:53,279 --> 00:12:00,219 HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. >> TODAY DR. JASON GRAHAM IS NEW YORK CITY'S CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER. 86 00:12:00,286 --> 00:12:08,294 HE INHERITED THIS PROMISE MADE BY HIS LATE PREDECESSOR, CHARLES HIRSCH. >> AS LONG AS THERE ARE FAMILIES 87 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:16,102 WHO ARE CONTINUING TO SEEK ANSWERS, THIS WILL CONTINUE. >> WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S LEFT TO BE DONE? 88 00:12:16,168 --> 00:12:25,277 >> THERE WERE 2,753 VICTIMS, HOMICIDE VICTIMS. 60% OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. 89 00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:40,059 40% ARE LEFT TO BE IDENTIFIED. >> 40% COMES TO 1,103 VICTIMS WITH NO IDENTIFIED REMAINS. >> SO, ONCE REMAINS ARE 90 00:12:40,126 --> 00:12:48,501 RECEIVED -- >> PUTTING A NAME TO THOSE REMAINS IS THE JOB OF THE LAST ORIGINAL MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL 91 00:12:48,567 --> 00:12:54,940 EXAMINER'S 9/11 TEAM, MARK DESIRE, NOW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FORENSIC BIOLOGY. >> THESE REMAINS WENT THROUGH 92 00:12:55,007 --> 00:13:03,716 EVERY POSSIBLE THING THAT COULD DESTROY DNA, FROM JET FUEL TO DIESEL FUEL, MOLD, BACTERIA, SUNLIGHT, ALL KINDS OF CHEMICALS 93 00:13:03,782 --> 00:13:10,656 THAT WERE IN THE BUILDING, INSECTS, HEAT, FIRE. ALL THESE THINGS DESTROY DNA. EVERYTHING WAS PRESENT AT GROUND 94 00:13:10,723 --> 00:13:15,961 ZERO, MAKING THIS NOT ONLY THE LARGEST FORENSIC INVESTIGATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES BUT THE MOST DIFFICULT. 95 00:13:16,028 --> 00:13:21,734 >> SOME OF THESE WORLD TRADE CENTER REMAINS HAVE BEEN TESTED HOW MANY TIMES? >> 10, 15 TIMES. 96 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:27,306 >> YEAH. >> WITHOUT A RESULT. >> WITHOUT A RESULT. >> BUT IF THERE'S DNA, WE'RE 97 00:13:27,373 --> 00:13:34,547 GOING TO FIND IT. WE'RE GOING TO FIND IT, WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE A PROFILE. IT MAY TAKE US A WHILE. 98 00:13:34,613 --> 00:13:43,455 >> ALL REMAINS TODAY ARE BONE. IN A DEMONSTRATION WITH ANIMAL BONE, DESIRE SHOWED US NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT MAKE BREAK 99 00:13:43,522 --> 00:13:53,299 THROUGHS POSSIBLE. THEY INCLUDE THIS CRYOGENIC GRINDER. FILLED WITH LIQUID NITROGEN AT 100 00:13:53,365 --> 00:14:02,808 320 DEGREES BELOW ZERO. >> THE EARLY DAYS OF 9/11, 2001, WE WERE DOING THIS ALL MY HAND WITH MORTAR AND PESTLE. 101 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:08,847 >> WITH HIGH SPEED VIBRATION, INDIVIDUAL CELLS IN THE DEEPLY FROZEN BONE SHATTER. A CHEMICAL PROCESS RELEASES 102 00:14:08,914 --> 00:14:15,454 THEIR DNA. >> EQUIPMENT LIKE THIS HAS TAKEN IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL, GIVEN US SO MUCH MORE ACCESS TO CELLS. 103 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:24,430 WE NEED AS MUCH DNA AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THESE SAMPLES HAVE HARDLY ANY. >> OTHER INNOVATIONS CHEMICALLY 104 00:14:24,496 --> 00:14:30,636 AMPLIFY DNA REVEALING MORE INFORMATION FROM THE SMALLEST FRAGMENT. >> SOME AS SMALL AS THE SIZE OF 105 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:35,808 A TIC TAC. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET DNA FROM THOSE AND GENERATE A DNA PROFILE. 106 00:14:35,874 --> 00:14:44,450 >> SAMPLES ARE TESTED EVERY WEEK WITH ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. JOHN NIVEN'S BONE FRAGMENTS, 15 IN ALL, HAD BEEN TESTED FOR 107 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:52,391 YEARS. THEN LAST YEAR, THE LAB MADE A PERFECT MATCH TO THE SWAB OF THE CHEEK OF HIS INFANT SON, TAKEN 108 00:14:52,458 --> 00:15:02,368 22 YEARS BEFORE. FIRST NOTIFICATIONS ARE MADE IN PERSON. >> AND THE POLICE CAME TO THE 109 00:15:02,434 --> 00:15:10,242 DOOR, AND MY FIRST REACTION WAS -- I SAID, IS IT MY SON. AND THEY SAID, NO. EVERYTHING'S OKAY. 110 00:15:10,309 --> 00:15:23,022 AND THESE TWO WONDERFUL, REALLY KIND POLICEMEN SAID, WE'RE HERE TO DELIVER YOU THE NEWS. AND THEY HAD A LETTER THAT YOUR 111 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:30,162 HUSBAND'S DNA HAS BEEN DISCOVERED. >> WHEN THE POLICE OFFICER SAID, WE FOUND YOUR HUSBAND'S DNA, 112 00:15:30,229 --> 00:15:35,467 THAT MUST HAVE HIT YOU AS QUITE A SHOCK. >> IT WAS A SHOCK THAT THEY'D BEEN LOOKING ALL THESE -- ALL 113 00:15:35,534 --> 00:15:42,474 THESE 22 YEARS. I THOUGHT THAT THAT DOOR HAD LONG BEEN CLOSED. >> WHY HOPE THE DOOR AT ALL? 114 00:15:42,541 --> 00:15:51,083 IT TURNS OUT MANY FAMILIES DON'T WANT TO KNOW. WHEN WE COME BACK, WHY OTHERS, INCLUDING ANDREA HABERMAN'S 115 00:15:51,150 --> 00:16:06,065 FAMILY, ARE EAGER EVEN NOW FOR EVERY REVELATION. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> ABOUT HALF OF 9/11 FAMILIES 116 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:13,839 HAVE TOLD THE MEDICAL EXAMINER THAT IF THEIR LOVED ONE IS IDENTIFIED TODAY, THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW. 117 00:16:13,906 --> 00:16:21,146 TIME HAS LIGHTENED THEIR BURDEN OF GRIEF. BUT THE OTHER HALF STILL HOPE FOR WORD. 118 00:16:21,213 --> 00:16:27,653 FEW UNDERSTAND THIS MIX OF EMOTIONS LIKE DR. JENNIFER ODIEN. SHE'S THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S 119 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:37,229 WORLD TRADE CENTER ANTHROPOLOGIST, A SCIENTIST, AND SOMETHING OF A COUNSELOR TO THOSE STILL HOPING FOR THE 120 00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:42,000 PROMISE. >> SHOCK I WOULD SAY IS THE FIRST RESPONSE TYPICALLY JUST BECAUSE OF HOW MANY YEARS HAVE 121 00:16:42,067 --> 00:16:48,941 GONE BY. THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY EXPECTING TO GET THAT NEW IDENTIFICATION. 122 00:16:49,007 --> 00:16:56,882 THEY WEREN'T EXPECTING IT. AND AFTER THAT, IT TENDS TO BE EMOTIONAL, SOME GRIEF. NOW, ALL THE MEMORIES, 123 00:16:56,949 --> 00:17:02,621 EVERYTHING IS COMING UP ABOUT THAT. >> CAN YOU GIVE ME A SENSE OF HOW MANY FAMILIES YOU'RE IN 124 00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:05,557 TOUCH WITH? >> HUNDREDS. >> HUNDREDS? >> YEAH. 125 00:17:05,624 --> 00:17:14,199 >> WHAT MEMORIES HAVE SOME OF THESE FAMILIES SHARED WITH YOU? >> SOME OF THE MEMORIES ARE THAT LAST PHONE CALL THAT THEY 126 00:17:14,266 --> 00:17:20,406 RECEIVED OR THE LAST BIRTHDAY THEY HAD OR, YOU KNOW, A VACATION. BUT A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH 127 00:17:20,472 --> 00:17:27,112 THAT LAST CONTACT, WHETHER IT WAS IN THE MORNING BEFORE THEY WENT OFF TO WORK OR IF THEY HAD CALLED WHILE THEY WERE IN THE 128 00:17:27,179 --> 00:17:34,453 TOWERS. >> A VITAL PART OF YOUR JOB IS TO LISTEN. >> YES. 129 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:42,127 >> AND I LISTEN AS LONG AS THEY'D LIKE ME TO. WE HAD PHONE CALLS SOMETIMES, AND THEY'LL LAST AN HOUR, AND I 130 00:17:42,194 --> 00:17:45,497 WILL STAY ON AND LISTEN AND TALK TO THEM. WHEN THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER. 131 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:54,506 BUT A LOT OF TIMES, THEY JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE. >> I TALKED TO DR. ODIEN, JEN, WHO WAS WONDERFUL AND SO KIND 132 00:17:54,573 --> 00:18:03,148 AND SO NICE. >> ELLEN NIVEN SPOKE TO JENNIFER ODIEN THIS PAST DECEMBER WHEN THE REMAINS OF HER HUSBAND, 133 00:18:03,215 --> 00:18:08,086 JOHN, WERE IDENTIFIED FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> SO, I HEARD NOTHING ABOUT JOHN'S REMAINS FOR 22 YEARS. 134 00:18:08,153 --> 00:18:21,800 SO, WE JUST ASSUMED THAT THERE WAS NOTHING. WE BURIED A BOX OF MEMENTOES, PHOTOGRAPHS, AND A LETTER THAT I 135 00:18:21,867 --> 00:18:28,073 WROTE, A DRAWING MY SON HAD DONE. AND THEN NOTHING. >> SHE REMARRIED AND HAD TWO 136 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:36,315 MORE BOYS. HER SON, JACK, WAS 18 MONTHS OLD WHEN HIS FATHER DIED. NOW AGE 24, JACK LET HIS MOTHER 137 00:18:36,381 --> 00:18:45,190 TELL THE STORY OF HOW HIS FATHER'S IDENTIFICATION STRUCK THEM DIFFERENTLY. >> FOR ME, IT WAS VERY SAD. 138 00:18:45,257 --> 00:18:53,532 FOR HIM, IT WAS UPLIFTING IN A WAY TO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE HAD BEEN WORKING ALL THAT TIME TO FIND ANY PIECE OF HIS DAD. 139 00:18:53,599 --> 00:19:02,508 AND THAT OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE BLESSED BY THIS BREAK THROUGH, THAT IT WAS HIS DAD, YOU KNOW? 140 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:11,617 AND THAT MEANT SO MUCH TO HIM. SO, IT WAS REALLY MOVING TO SEE HOW MOVED HE WAS. SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MET JOHN 141 00:19:11,683 --> 00:19:21,226 OR HAD EVEN NOT MET JOHN REACHED OUT TO US, EMAILS, LETTERS, PHONE CALLS, TO ME AND TO JACK. AND I THINK THAT FOR JACK, IT 142 00:19:21,293 --> 00:19:28,834 REALLY BROUGHT TO LIFE SO MANY DESCRIPTIONS OF HIS FATHER THAT AS A YOUNG MAN HE COULD NOW REALLY APPRECIATE. 143 00:19:28,901 --> 00:19:43,148 SO, IT WAS A GREAT REMEMBRANCE, JOHN BEING ABLE TO BE BACK IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS. >> AS REMAINS ARE IDENTIFIED -- 144 00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:49,154 GET BIGGER AND BIGGER BECAUSE WE KEEP ADDING ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THOSE REMAINS. >> JENNIFER ODIEN ADDS NEW 145 00:19:49,221 --> 00:20:01,233 IDENTIFICATIONS TO THE DM FILES. NO ONE KNEW WHAT TO CALL 9/11 THE DAY IT HAPPENED, SO THE M.E. SETTLED ON DISASTER MANHATTAN. 146 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:10,776 THERE'S ONE FOLDER FOR EACH MURDER VICTIM, 2,753. >> THIS IS AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF THE REMAINS FOUND FOR THIS 147 00:20:10,842 --> 00:20:20,319 ONE PERSON. >> CORRECT. >> SUCH THINGS HERE AS RIB, VERTEBRA, STERNUM, FOUND OVER 148 00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:30,696 MONTHS AND YEARS. >> CORRECTS. >> THIS INDICATES THAT ABOUT 50% OF THIS BODY WAS RECOVERED. 149 00:20:30,762 --> 00:20:36,835 >> ROUGHLY. AND IT'S A VERY ROUGH ESTIMATE. WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY HOW MUCH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. 150 00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:41,573 WHAT ARE THE CHANCES MORE REMAINS WILL BE IDENTIFIED? THESE ARE QUESTIONS FAMILIES WILL ASK. 151 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:49,014 >> FAMILIES HAVE A CHOICE. THEY CAN ASK A FUNERAL HOME TO PICK UP A REMAIN VACUUM PACKED LIKE THIS, LABELLED WITH AN 152 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:53,585 AMERICAN FLAG. OR THEY CAN LEAVE THE REMAIN IN THE CUSTODY OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. 153 00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:58,690 >> I TELL THEM THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION RIGHT NOW. THEY CAN CALL BACK IN A MONTH, A 154 00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:05,731 YEAR, TWO YEARS, TEN YEARS, AND WE CAN THEN HAVE THOSE REMAINS TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE FUNERAL HOME THAT THEY CHOOSE. 155 00:21:05,797 --> 00:21:11,803 >> YOU ARE KEEPING TRACK OF THE REMAINS THAT PRECISELY? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. WE KNOW WHERE EVERY SINGLE 156 00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:17,776 REMAIN IS. >> HOW DO YOU DO THAT? >> WE HAVE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL REMAINS. 157 00:21:17,843 --> 00:21:28,820 EVERY REMAIN THAT WAS RECOVERED HAS A SPECIFIC UNIQUE NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH IT. >> NUMBER 18,756 IS THE MOST 158 00:21:28,887 --> 00:21:35,060 RECENT REMAIN OF ANDREA HABERMAN. >> OH, ANDREA. >> THE HABERMAN'S HAVE ASKED TO 159 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:40,799 BE TOLD OF ALL NEW IDENTIFICATIONS. FOR THEM, EACH REMINDER OF THEIR DAUGHTER IS A STEPPINGSTONE 160 00:21:40,866 --> 00:21:47,572 THROUGH A VOID. >> ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL? >> THAT GORDON HABERMAN CALLS, MISSING. 161 00:21:47,639 --> 00:22:00,085 >> IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE MISSING TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT'S -- IT'S DEEP INSIDE YOU. THERE ISN'T A DAY THAT I OR WE 162 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:11,329 DON'T THINK OF HER. >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO YOU TO HAVE HAD ANDREA'S REMAINS IDENTIFIED. 163 00:22:11,396 --> 00:22:23,108 >> IF ANDREA COULD FACE WHAT SHE HAD TO FACE, HOW COULD I NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER? 164 00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:33,585 >> TODAY HE'S 73. HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER HAS SPANNED 11 NOTIFICATIONS PLUS THE AMAZING 165 00:22:33,652 --> 00:22:40,926 DISCOVERY OF THE RELICS OF ANDREA. >> WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THESE THINGS FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHAT 166 00:22:40,992 --> 00:22:56,875 DID YOU SEE? WHAT DID YOU THINK? >> HOW TERRIBLE IT WAS. >> WE MET GORDON HABERMAN AT THE 167 00:22:56,942 --> 00:23:07,753 NATIONAL SEPTEMBER 11th MEMORIAL MUSEUM AT GROUND ZERO. WITH THE HELP OF THE MUSEUM STAFF, WE SAW ARTIFACTS FROM 168 00:23:07,819 --> 00:23:15,927 ANDREA'S PURSE, WHICH ARE ARCHIVED, CATALOGED, AND HANDLED LIKE ANTIQUITIES. HE RECEIVED THEM IN 2004 FROM 169 00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:28,240 THE NYPD IN A MEETING WITH OFFICERS AND A PRIEST. >> THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF I NEEDED ANY HELP PROCESSING THAT. 170 00:23:28,306 --> 00:23:34,246 AND I WAS ACTUALLY MORE CONCERNED AT THAT TIME HOW I'M GOING TO KEEP THESE FROM MY WIFE. 171 00:23:34,312 --> 00:23:45,757 >> HE FEARED HIS WIFE'S PAIN, SO HE LOCKED THE BAG IN A DESK DRAWER, WHICH HE DID NOT OPEN FOR SEVEN YEARS. 172 00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:53,365 IN 2011, THEY DONATED TO THE MUSEUM THE COLLECTION OF A QUARTER CENTURY AGO. >> THIS IS THE PHONE THAT WE 173 00:23:53,431 --> 00:24:00,272 KEPT CALLING. >> HER FLIP PHONE. >> IT DIDN'T WORK. >> A PAGER, DRIVER'S LICENSE, 174 00:24:00,338 --> 00:24:11,917 AND THE LAST PHOTO OF HER LIFE, THE VISITOR I.D. THAT CAPTURED ANDREA'S SPIRIT MINUTES BEFORE SHE WAS GONE. 175 00:24:11,983 --> 00:24:18,890 >> THAT WAS OUR ANDREA. AND SHE WAS GOING TO GO ON TO DO GREAT THINGS. AND SHE WANTED GRANDCHILDREN. 176 00:24:18,957 --> 00:24:27,532 HER HOUSE WAS SUCH A PRIDE. SHE LOVED HER HOUSE SO MUCH. >> YOU CAN SEE IT IN HER SMILE. >> OH, YES. 177 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:35,607 >> YOU CAN SEE IT IN HER FACE. >> YES. >> HE BROUGHT ANDREA'S IDENTIFIED REMAINS HOME TO 178 00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:44,249 WISCONSIN. BUT HE BELIEVES HER OTHER REMAINS, STILL UNIDENTIFIED, ARE IN THE MUSEUM BEHIND THIS WALL 179 00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:53,458 AND A VERSE BY THE POET VIRGIL. NO DAY SHALL ERASE YOU FROM THE MEMORY OF TIME. MANY MUSEUM VISITORS DON'T 180 00:24:53,525 --> 00:25:02,567 REALIZE, BUT THIS IS THE OUTER WALL OF THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S REPOSITORY FOR 9/11 REMAINS. >> WE'RE IN WHAT WAS THE 181 00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:09,641 BASEMENT OF THE NORTH TOWER. >> YES. >> AND THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PATH OF THE MUSEUM. 182 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:17,048 IT'S HIDDEN AROUND THE CORNER. >> YES. >> NEXT TO THE REPOSITORY, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE OFFICE OF 183 00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:26,458 THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER FAMILY REFLECTION ROOM. THE ROOM AND REPOSITORY HAVE NEVER BEEN SEEN BY THE PUBLIC. 184 00:25:26,524 --> 00:25:33,632 FAMILIES ONLY CAN CALL A NUMBER ON THE DOOR, WHICH SUMMONS AN ESCORT, OFTEN DR. JENNIFER ODIEN. 185 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:40,405 >> SO, THE VISITS ARE DIFFERENT EVERY TIME. SOME FAMILIES ARE VERY EMOTIONAL AND I'LL SIT IN WITH THEM FOR AN 186 00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:47,846 HOUR AND JUST HEAR STORIES AND I'LL WALK AROUND WITH THEM UNTIL I KNOW THAT THEY'RE OKAY. AND THEN I LEAVE THE ROOM 187 00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:54,352 COMPLETELY SO THEY HAVE THE SPACE TO THEMSELVES. >> THIS MUST BE A BURDEN TO YOU? >> I DON'T CONSIDER IT A BURDEN. 188 00:25:54,419 --> 00:26:00,425 IT'S TOUGH. I DEFINITELY HAVE MOMENTS OF FEELING VERY EMOTIONAL AND NEEDING TO STEP BACK. 189 00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:08,266 BUT WHEN I TALK TO A FAMILY AND THEY SAY THANK YOU, HOW GRATEFUL THEY ARE FOR OUR CONTINUED WORK, A QUESTION I'VE ANSWERED HELPED 190 00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:18,343 THEM IN SOME WAY, IT MAKES IT ALL WORTH IT. >> GORE DDON HABERMAN INVITED U INSIDE AS HIS GUEST. 191 00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:25,650 NO CAMERA, BUT WE WERE ALLOWED TO RECORD THE AUDIO. WE FOUND A SMALL SITTING ROOM AND A WINDOW INTO THE REPOSITORY 192 00:26:25,717 --> 00:26:35,226 FOR HUMAN REMAINS. >> THE WINDOW WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET WIDE AND THREE FEET OR 193 00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:43,368 SO TALL, JUST A SINGLE WINDOW. AND A SINGLE WOODEN BENCH IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW. >> WITH PERMISSION, WE GAVE OUR 194 00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:50,942 NOTES TO AN ARTIST, WHO SKETCHED THE VIEW THROUGH THE WINDOW THAT JOINS THE FAMILY ROOM TO THE REPOSITORY. 195 00:26:51,009 --> 00:27:04,055 A LOVED ONE SITTING ON THE BENCH SEES A DEEP, AUSTERE, WHITE ROOM WITH ROWS OF DARK WOODEN CABINETS, EIGHT FEET TALL. 196 00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:14,666 THEY HOLD ABOUT 10,000 REMAINS, BOTH KNOWN AND UNKNOWN. IT IS, IN A SENSE, A PRIVATE NATIONAL SHRINE. 197 00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:24,409 >> WHY DO YOU COME HERE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS? >> I FEEL CLOSE TO MY DAUGHTER. SHE WASN'T MEANT TO BE HERE, BUT 198 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:33,084 SHE'S HERE. >> THE REPOSITORY IN THE MUSEUM, WHICH STANDS BETWEEN THE REFLECTING POOLS, SEEMS LIKE THE 199 00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:41,059 RIGHT PLACE, ELLEN NIVEN TOLD US, FOR HER HUSBAND, JOHN. >> HAVE YOU BEEN HERE OFTEN? >> OH, I'VE BEEN HERE OFTEN. 200 00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:49,134 >> SHE HAS VISITED THE POOLS OVER THE DECADES TO RUN HER FINGERTIPS OVER HER LOST HUSBAND'S TRIBUTE. 201 00:27:49,200 --> 00:28:01,679 AND YET SHE IS SURPRISED HOW THE ENDLESS EFFORT TO ACTUALLY FIND HIM ALLOWED HER TO FEEL ONCE AGAIN THE EMBRACE OF A NATION'S 202 00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:07,419 DEVOTION. >> MY FIRST REACTION WAS TO TELL PEOPLE, DID YOU KNOW THAT ALL THIS TIME THEY HAVE BEEN SIFTING 203 00:28:07,485 --> 00:28:16,594 THROUGH THESE REMAINS AND RESEARCHING AND RESEARCHING FOR OVER 20 YEARS? WHAT AN INCREDIBLE THING, YOU 204 00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:24,669 KNOW? JOHN HAD ANOTHER MOMENT IN ALL OF OUR LIVES. SO, THAT WAS SOMETHING I'M 205 00:28:24,736 --> 00:28:35,880 INCREDIT BLI GRATEFUL FOR. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >> SCOTT PELLEY ON THE 9/11 FAMILY'S QUARTER-CENTURY SEARCH 206 00:28:35,947 --> 00:28:45,390 FOR CLOSURE. >> THERE IS HOPE AND I NEVER GIVE UP HOPE. >> 207 00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:56,334 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> FOR THE RECORD, IT'S IRON ORE, BUT IT'S EASY TO MAKE THE CASE THAT AUSTRALIA'S LEADING 208 00:28:56,401 --> 00:29:09,948 EXPORT IS ACTING TALENT. HOW HAS AN ISLAND OF ONLY 27 MILLION PEOPLE MINTED NICOLE KIDMAN, CRAATE BLANCHETT -- WE N 209 00:29:10,014 --> 00:29:16,654 KEEP GOING HERE. TO SAY NOTHING OF SO MANY OSCAR DIRECTORS AND CREW. WE HEADED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE 210 00:29:16,721 --> 00:29:27,966 GLOBE TO EXPLORE THE AUSSIE TAKE TAKEOVER. WE MET STARS, WE HEARD THEORIES, AND IN A QUIET SYDNEY 211 00:29:28,032 --> 00:29:38,676 NEIGHBORHOOD IMPOSSIBLY FAR FROM HOLLYWOOD, WE FOUND A PLACE THAT PUMPS OUT TALENT. >> SARAH SNOOK IS FRESH OFF HER 212 00:29:38,743 --> 00:29:46,651 EMMY-WINNING BREAK THROUGH ROLE. THE VICIOUS, YET VULNERABLE DAUGHTER IN THE HBO SHOW, "SUCCESSION." 213 00:29:46,718 --> 00:29:53,491 >> IF ONLY I COULD REMAIN ALWAYS YOUNG. >> FOR HER NEXT ACT, SHE'S UPPED THE DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY AND 214 00:29:53,558 --> 00:30:02,834 PIVOTED FROM TV TO LIVE PERFORMANCE, PLAYING ALL 26 ROLES IN OSCAR WILD'S, "THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY," THE 215 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:09,474 THEATRICAL SENSATION COMING SOON TO BROADWAY. >> IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL RUN 216 00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:19,150 IN TV OR FILM AND GO DO THEATER. I'M NOT SURE I'VE SEEN SOMEONE DO 26 ROLES IN THEATER AT ONCE? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? 217 00:30:19,217 --> 00:30:25,657 >> IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PLAY. INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PLAY SO MANY DIFFERENT ROLES AND SO MANY CHARACTERS. 218 00:30:25,723 --> 00:30:32,430 ALSO, THE BEST WRITING IN THE WORLD, WHAT DO YOU DO NEXT? SOMETHING HAS TO BE OUT THERE TO CHALLENGE YOU. 219 00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:45,810 AND THIS IS THE CHALLENGE. >> AN UNUSUAL BRAND OF CAREER MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT -- 220 00:30:45,877 --> 00:30:51,816 >> WHAT IS GOING THROUGH YOUR HEAD DURING THIS PERFORMANCE WITH ALL THESE MARKS AND LINES AND ANGLES? 221 00:30:51,883 --> 00:31:00,825 >> NOTHING, WHICH IS QUITE NICE. >> REALLY? >> YEAH, THE FOCUS REQUIRED IS A KIND OF STATE OF MEDITATIVE 222 00:31:00,892 --> 00:31:12,103 FLOW, IN A WAY. BECAUSE IF I'M SITTING THERE GOING, OH, AM I ON MY MARK? ANYTHING ELSE, I'M SPEECHED UP. 223 00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:19,644 >> SPEECHED UP, THAT'S AUSSIE FOR BEING IN A JAM. DIDN'T KNOW SARAH SNOOK WAS AUSTRALIAN. 224 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:28,586 >> YOU'RE A MASOCHIST AND EVERYONE KNOW IT. >> IF YOU CAN'T GUESS BY THE ACCENT, YOU MAY HAVE GUESSED BY 225 00:31:28,653 --> 00:31:35,760 NAMING THE PERCENTAGES. NAME AN A-LIST STAR ON THE SCREEN TODAY, ODDS ARE BLOOMING GOOD THEY'VE COME FROM THE LAND 226 00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:39,097 DOWN UNDER. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU. >> THERE'S A FEW OF US OUT THERE. 227 00:31:39,163 --> 00:31:47,338 >> FEWER PEOPLE IN TEXAS. >> IS IT, REALLY? REALLY? >> THE RATIO. 228 00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:53,278 >> YOU GUYS ARE DOING INTERPRET TWILL FOR YOURSELF. >> JAKE. >> YES, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE, 229 00:31:53,344 --> 00:32:02,053 THESE AUSSIES, FILLING UP IMDB PAGES AND CALL SHEETS. >> THIS IS WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. 230 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:12,463 >> THEY BROUGHT US HER AND HIM. >> DON'T TOUCH MY THINGS. >> HIM TOO. >> HEROES -- 231 00:32:12,530 --> 00:32:20,405 >> UPON THIS MOMENT -- >> AND VILLAINS. >> WHY SO SERIOUS? >> EARNING TOP BILLINGS. 232 00:32:20,471 --> 00:32:30,348 >> CAREER ACTORS. >> EARNING TOP AWARDS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAVE SUCH APPRECIATION. 233 00:32:30,415 --> 00:32:38,556 >> THANKS VERY MUCH. I'M AN AUSTRALIAN WHO PLAYED AN AUSTRALIAN. >> AUSSIES, THEY'VE BECOME TO 234 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:45,063 HOLLYWOOD WHAT KENYANS ARE TO MARATHONING, WILDLY OVERREPRESENTED. AND NOT JUST IN FRONT OF THE 235 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:57,041 CAMERA. >> AND ACTION. >> TAKE FILMMAKER BAZ LUHRMANN, A SINGULAR CREATIVE FORCE, A 236 00:32:57,108 --> 00:33:03,581 GENRE HIMSELF. HE SPOKE TO US IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION HE'S FILMING HIS NEXT FILM. 237 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:09,487 >> IT'S COME TO THE POINT THERE ARE SO MANY AUSTRALIAN PERFORMERS AND ACTORS, BEHIND THE SCREEN, SCREENPLAY WRITING 238 00:33:09,554 --> 00:33:16,761 AND DIRECTING, BUT PARTICULARLY WITH ACTORS, EVEN I HAVE TO BE TOLD, YOU KNOW X IS AUSTRALIAN. OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. 239 00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:22,667 BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY EVERYWHERE. NOW, NIDA WAS A REALLY BIG PART OF THAT. 240 00:33:22,734 --> 00:33:28,673 I THINK IT KIND OF SET THE CULTURE AND SET THE ATTITUDE. >> NIDA, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF DRAMATIC ART. 241 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:37,648 THINK OF IT AS THE JUILLIARD OF AUSTRALIA. >> UP THROUGH THE SKY. >> ITS RISE TO PROMINENCE MARKS 242 00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:48,559 A TURNING POINT IN THE INVASION. HUGH JACKMAN WERE AMONG THOSE DECLINED. BAZ LUHRMANN WAS CLASS OF 1985. 243 00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:59,504 SARAH SNOOK, CLASS OF 2008. ONE OF ONLY 24 ADMITTED STUDENTS THAT YEAR. AT NIDA, SNOOK RECEIVED TRAINING 244 00:33:59,570 --> 00:34:09,714 IN THE CLASSICS, SPEEXPERIMENTA THEATER, AND PICKED UP HACKS. >> I WAS TOLD TO ASK YOU ABOUT HOW YOU CRIED DURING CHEKHOV 245 00:34:09,781 --> 00:34:13,985 DURING THE THREE SISTERS PERFORMANCE. >> WHO TOLD YOU THAT? >> WE DO OUR RESEARCH. 246 00:34:14,051 --> 00:34:21,192 WE DO OUR RESEARCH HERE. >> YEAH. THERE WERE A FEW OF US WHO WERE NERVOUS ABOUT HAVING TO, YOU 247 00:34:21,259 --> 00:34:28,332 KNOW, INSTANTANEOUSLY PRODUCE TEARS. SO, WE WERE VERY CHEEKY, AND WE PUT TIGER BALM ON A LITTLE 248 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:36,607 HANDKERCHIEF. AND WHEN WE WERE BEHIND A SCREEN, WELD PUT THE TIGER BALM ON OUR EYES SO THEY WOULD LOOK 249 00:34:36,674 --> 00:34:43,748 VERY UPSET AND TO CRY. >> YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU KILLED SOMEONE. >> AT LESS RISK TO HER HEALTH, 250 00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:49,854 THERE SHE ALSO LEARNED TO MASK THAT CHARMING AUSSIE ACCENT. >> HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET, SHE'S AUSTRALIAN? 251 00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:58,162 >> I DO, YEAH, FREQUENTLY. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THEY TAUGHT YOU AT NIDA AT ALL? >> YEAH, ACCENT WORK AT NIDA. 252 00:34:58,229 --> 00:35:03,367 >> I THINK THAT'S ONE MORE THING YOU'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT, NOT JUST YOUR LINES. >> NO, I KNOW. 253 00:35:03,434 --> 00:35:09,073 THAT WAS THE THING ON THE SHOW, WE ALWAYS HAD TO -- THERE WAS OFTEN TIMES WHERE WE HAD TO IMPROVISE. 254 00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:17,014 SO, I HAD TO TRY AND THINK IN AN AMERICAN ACCENT AS WELL, WHICH IS TRICKY. >> LUHRMANN, TOO, STILL LEANS ON 255 00:35:17,081 --> 00:35:23,921 HIS NIDA TRAINING. >> THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF DRAMATIC ART, THE DRAMA SCHOOL I WENT TO, I MEAN, I DO REMEMBER 256 00:35:23,988 --> 00:35:31,429 ONE THING, AND I THINK IT'S AN AUSTRALIAN ATTITUDE, WHICH IS, DON'T WAIT FOR PERMISSION TO BE TOLD THAT YOU CAN ACT. 257 00:35:31,496 --> 00:35:39,203 WE WERE TAUGHT TO DEVISE THINGS. WE WERE TAUGHT NOT TO SIT AROUND AND, OKAY, THERE'S THE PART, YOU MAY BE IN IT. 258 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:48,446 WE WERE TAUGHT TO MAKE UP STORY, GET WITH FRIENDS, MAKE A SHOW, CREATE SOMETHING. I HAD AN IDEA THAT I WOULD TAKE 259 00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:57,889 THE GREEK MYTH AND WITH A BUNCH OF FRIENDS, DEVISE IT AND SET IT IN THE WORLD OF BALLROOM DANCING WHILE I WAS AT THE NATIONAL 260 00:35:57,955 --> 00:36:04,996 INSTITUTE OF DRAMATIC ART. THAT LITTLE PLAY WENT 30 MINUTES. IT WAS CALLED "STRICTLY BALL 261 00:36:05,062 --> 00:36:12,236 ROOM." >> WITHIN A FEW YEARS, LUHRMANN HAD TURNED THAT LITTLE PLAY INTO A WORLDWIDE FILM, A CULT HIT 262 00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:21,045 WITH ALL AUSSIE CAST AND CREW. THAT WAS 1992. THEN AUSTRALIA WAS STILL A THEATRICAL OUTBACK OF SORTS. 263 00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:32,390 TRUE, ERROL FLYNN WAS BORN IN TASMANIA, BUT AUSTRALIA'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE SILVER SCREEN EXTENDED TO NOT FAR 264 00:36:32,456 --> 00:36:37,395 BEYOND THIS. >> THAT'S A KNIFE. >> THEN THE TALENT STARTED FILTERING OUT. 265 00:36:37,461 --> 00:36:43,467 >> MEL GIBSON. CATE BLANCHETT. >> BECAUSE NOBODY ADMITS ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE! 266 00:36:43,534 --> 00:36:56,647 >> TONI COLLETTE. >> BAZ LUHRMANN'S WIFE, THE FOUR-TIME -- WINNER -- >> HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE NIDA 267 00:36:56,714 --> 00:37:05,189 FITS INTO THE BROADER ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY. >> THAT CAN DO, WILL TELL, DON'T WAIT FOR PERMISSION ATTITUDE 268 00:37:05,256 --> 00:37:14,065 THAT NIDA INSTILLED IN THE VERY FIRST GRADUATES, THAT SPILLED OUT INTO THE KIND OF LARGER SENSE OF WHAT IT WAS TO BE, YOU 269 00:37:14,131 --> 00:37:25,242 KNOW, A PERFORMER IN AUSTRALIA. YOU KNOW, JUST THROWING YOURSELF OFF THE CLIFF AND FLYING. >> WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE -- 270 00:37:25,309 --> 00:37:35,052 >> IN SYDNEY, WE FOUND THE GODFATHER, THE GURU. NOW 92, JOHN CLARK WAS NIDA'S ALL-POWERFUL DIRECTOR FOR 35 271 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:42,593 YEARS STARTING IN 1969. HE SET A GOAL FROM THE START, DEVELOPING AND UNLOCKING A DISTINCT AUSSIE MODE OF ACTING, 272 00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:52,136 MARRYING THE THEATER OF LONDON WITH HOLLYWOOD GLOSS. >> WE THOUGHT THE METHOD ACTING WAS HAVING SUCH AN INFLUENCE, 273 00:37:52,203 --> 00:38:00,811 AND EVERYBODY WAS EMOTING, AND THE STYLE OF ACTING WAS TERRIBLY EMOTIONAL AND LACKING IN SKILL AND IMAGINATION. 274 00:38:00,878 --> 00:38:10,121 SO, WE THOUGHT, NO, WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY OF DOING IT THAT TAKES THE BEST OF AMERICA AND THE BEST OF BRITAIN BUT ALLOWS 275 00:38:10,187 --> 00:38:17,995 OUR OWN NATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS TO DEVELOP. >> WHAT MAKES AUSTRALIAN ACTING UNIQUE? 276 00:38:18,062 --> 00:38:31,275 >> SKILL, CONFIDENCE, COURAGE, AND AN ENJOYMENT OF THE BODY. NIDA HAS NEVER ENCOURAGED SELF-INDULGENCE OR SHOW-OFF 277 00:38:31,342 --> 00:38:36,881 ACTING. THE ACTORS WHO HAVE DONE WELL IN HOLLYWOOD, THEY'RE NOT ACTING WITH A CAPITAL A. 278 00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:49,694 THEY ARE PLAYING CHARACTERS WITH SUCH CONVICTION AND WITH SUCH TRUTH, WITHOUT WHAT AUSTRALIANS WOULD CALL DECORATION OF BULL 279 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,597 [ BLEEP ]. >> BEAUTIFUL. >> IT'S STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, AND THEY DO THEIR 280 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:58,536 HOMEWORK. THEY'RE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT. >> MR. ANDERSON, WELCOME BACK. >> AND THEY KNOW WHO THE PERSON 281 00:38:58,602 --> 00:39:04,909 IS THEY'RE PLAYING. >> LIKE WHAT I'VE DONE WITH THE PLACE? >> IN ADDITION TO RUNNING NIDA, 282 00:39:04,975 --> 00:39:13,984 JOHN CLARK COFOUNDED THE SYDNEY THEATER COMPANY, A HARBORSIDE BAND BOX WHERE NIDA STUDENTS CAN LAUNCH CAREERS AND ESTABLISHED 283 00:39:14,051 --> 00:39:22,259 STARS CAN COME BACK HOME TO GET BACK TO BASICS. YET ANOTHER SUPPORTING ROLE IN THIS STORY, AUSSIE SOAP OPERAS. 284 00:39:22,326 --> 00:39:29,133 SERIOUSLY, DON'T JUDGE. THE SOAPS ENABLE ACTORS TO SHARPEN THEIR SKILLS DAY IN, DAY OUT, BEFORE THEIR CALL UPS. 285 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:37,775 >> DID THE -- TALK TO YOU. >> AUSTRALIA HAS ALL THESE INS TUSS, NIDA, SYDNEY THEATER COMPANY, WHAT CONTRIBUTIONS DID 286 00:39:37,842 --> 00:39:44,315 THEY MAKE TO THIS OVERREPRESENTATION OF AUSSIES WE SEE? >> GOOD TRAINING GROUNDS. 287 00:39:44,381 --> 00:39:49,954 GREAT TRAINING GROUNDS FOR INTERNATIONAL WORK. THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN TEST YOURSELF IN AUSTRALIA. 288 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:59,697 YOU CAN FAIL SLASAFELY IN A WAY. TO SEE YOUR LIMITS AND GROW. >> SNOOK GREW UP AS A TYPICAL AUSSIE FREE-RANGE KID. 289 00:39:59,764 --> 00:40:07,271 >> YOU'RE TELLING ME ABOUT YOUR UPBRINGING, RIDING A BIKE IN THE NATIONAL PARK IN SOUTHERN AUSTRALIA WITH KANGAROOS. 290 00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:12,143 >> I FEEL THAT'S A REAL GROUNDING FORCE IN MY LIFE, HAVING THAT INDEPENDENT PLAY IN RISKY AREAS. 291 00:40:12,209 --> 00:40:18,048 THAT BREEDS A LOT OF SELF RELIANCE IN A KID. >> THESE EXPERIENCES YOU HAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD, 292 00:40:18,115 --> 00:40:22,920 ACTUALLY REALLY HELP YOU. >> YEAH. THEY BUILD YOUR CHARACTER SO THAT YOU CAN PLAY OTHER 293 00:40:22,987 --> 00:40:27,658 CHARACTERS. >> FOR ALL OF THE PATHWAYS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT AUSSIES, 294 00:40:27,725 --> 00:40:43,174 AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LESSON HERE FOR ALL OF US. SIMPLY PUT, THEY'RE THE ANTI-I DID DIVAS. 295 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:50,080 >> THERE IS A BIT OF AN UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S ALL OFTEN TIMES SMOKE AND MIRRORS, AND IT'S FUN AND IT'S A GAME. 296 00:40:50,147 --> 00:40:57,588 YOU KNOW, IT IS PROFOUND IN SOME WAYS, BUT IT'S ALSO SILLY. CHRIS HEMSWORTH HAS A GREAT TONGUE AND CHEEK ATTITUDE ABOUT 297 00:40:57,655 --> 00:41:05,963 IT ALL. AND ALSO BAZ LUHRMANN, HIS FILMS TEND TO HAVE A CHEEKY WINK TO THE AUDIENCE. 298 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:11,602 >> WE KEPT HEARING, THOSE AUSSIES, THEY TAKE THE WORK SERIOUSLY. THEY DON'T TAKE THEMSELVES 299 00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:15,072 PARTICULARLY SERIOUSLY. >> THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. MUCH BETTER WAY OF SAYING WHAT I 300 00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:20,978 JUST SAID. >> I FEEL DEEPLY -- >> FINALLY, ABOUT THAT DISTANCE, BAZ LUHRMANN BELIEVES THAT THE 301 00:41:21,045 --> 00:41:32,590 REMOTENESS OF AUSTRALIA, A PLACE WHERE ACTORS CAN STRETCH THEIR TALENTS AND HORIZONS BEYOND THE GAZE OF HOLLYWOOD PACEMAKERS IS, 302 00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:39,363 IN FACT, A BLESSING. >> THE ONE THING THAT EVERYONE AGREES ABOUT AUSTRALIA IS THAT IT'S FAR, FAR AWAY. 303 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:49,039 AND I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF BEING IN A MOVIE OR IN A PLAY ON BROADWAY OR IN A TELEVISION SHOW IN HOLLYWOOD, IS STILL A 304 00:41:49,106 --> 00:41:52,443 ROMANTIC NOTION. IT'S STILL A PRIVILEGE. IT ISN'T A JOB. IT'S A DREAM. 305 00:41:52,509 --> 00:42:06,190 [ STOPWATCH [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> THE LAST MINUTE OF "60 MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED 306 00:42:06,257 --> 00:42:15,799 HEALTH CARE, RELIABLE COVERAGE FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD. >>> TONIGHT, ONCE AGAIN, "60 MINUTES" EXPANDS TO 90 MINUTES. 307 00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:24,475 AFTER THE BREAK, WE'LL TRAVEL HALFWAY ACROSS THE WORLD TO THE TINY HIMALAYAN KINGDOM OF BHUTAN, A PLACE OF STUNNING 308 00:42:24,541 --> 00:42:36,053 BEAUTY AND A GOVERNMENT THAT PRIORITIZES HAPPINESS. BHUTAN'S MOUNTAINS AND ITS UNIQUE BUDDHIST CULTURE, 309 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:45,829 COLORFUL CLOTHES, AND SPIRITED TRADITIONS MAKE IT SEEM LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A FAIRY TALE. BUT THEN WHY ARE ITS YOUNG 310 00:42:45,896 --> 00:42:54,972 PEOPLE LEAVING? >> YOU CALLED IT EXISTENTIAL. >> IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS. >> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 311 00:42:55,039 --> 00:43:10,754 CAN ANCIENT TRADITION MEET THE MODERN >>> IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A FAIRY TALE, A BEAUTIFUL 312 00:43:10,821 --> 00:43:20,497 REMOTE LAND WITH AN ENLIGHTENED KING ADORED BY HIS SUBJECTS, A PLACE WITH TALL MOUNTAINS, LUSH FORESTS, FLOWING RIVERS, AND 313 00:43:20,564 --> 00:43:29,239 CLEAN AIR, WHERE HAPPINESS IS VALUED ABOVE ALL ELSE. WE'RE DESCRIBING THE TINY KINGDOM OF BHUTAN WEDGED BETWEEN 314 00:43:29,306 --> 00:43:38,115 CHINA AND INDIA IN THE HIMALAYAN MOUNTAINS, A PLACE SO FIERCELY PROTECTIVE OF ITS UNIQUE BUDDHIST CULTURE THAT FOR A LONG 315 00:43:38,182 --> 00:43:49,026 TIME, IT SEALED ITSELF OFF, DIDN'T ADMIT TOURISM UNTIL THE 1970s, AND DIDN'T INTRODUCE TELEVISION UNTIL 1999. 316 00:43:49,093 --> 00:43:58,469 A PLACE THAT CHARTERED ITS OWN PATH TO DEVELOPMENT WHEN ITS KING COINED THE PHRASE, GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS, AND MADE 317 00:43:58,535 --> 00:44:04,875 MAXIMIZING IT THE NATION'S TOP PRIORITY. BUT WHEN A FAIRY TALE KINGDOM MEETS THE MODERN WORLD, A 318 00:44:04,942 --> 00:44:22,359 STORYBOOK ENDING IS FAR FROM CERTAIN. >> SUNRISE OVER BHUTAN'S DASHO PASS, A PLACE SO CALM, SO 319 00:44:22,426 --> 00:44:30,367 TRANSCENDENT, YOU FEEL YOU'VE LANDED IN ANOTHER TIME. BUDDHISM IS THE NATIONAL RELIGION HERE. 320 00:44:30,434 --> 00:44:43,047 WE FOUND BHUTANESE, ESPECIALLY OLDER MEN AND WOMEN, SPENDIG HOURS SPINNING PRAYER WHEELS FULL OF BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES AND 321 00:44:43,113 --> 00:44:49,820 PRAYER FLAGS FLUTTERING ON HILLSIDES AND IN FORESTS, TURNING NATURE ITSELF INTO A SHRINE. 322 00:44:49,887 --> 00:45:00,431 BHUTAN'S CAPITAL CITY, THIMPHU, STILL HAS NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS. THE OLD AND THE NEW MINGLE IN PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE HERE, EVEN 323 00:45:00,497 --> 00:45:13,343 ON THE NATION'S ROADS. >> BHUTAN'S STORY, IN ONE WORD, IS SURVIVAL. >> DASHO KINLEY DORJI RAN 324 00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:19,550 BHUTAN'S FIRST NEWSPAPER, THEN SERVED AS A GOVERNMENT MINISTER. >> WE WERE AND STILL ARE VERY NERVOUS POPULATION BETWEEN INDIA 325 00:45:19,616 --> 00:45:25,689 AND CHINA. IN THE OLD DAYS, WHAT BHUTAN DID IS WE HID IN THE MOUNTAINS. >> YOU HID FROM THESE TWO 326 00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:29,960 GIANTS. >> YES. >> YOU WERE AFRAID THEY'D GOBBLE YOU UP? 327 00:45:30,027 --> 00:45:36,233 >> OH, YES, YES. WE DON'T HAVE MILITARY MIGHT OR ECONOMIC FORCE. SO, BHUTAN'S STRENGTH WAS GOING 328 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:42,840 TO BE ITS IDENTITY, TO BE DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE AROUND US. WE WEAR DIFFERENT CLOTHES, WE 329 00:45:42,906 --> 00:45:52,816 CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS IN A TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURE, AN IDENTITY BASED ON OUR CULTURE. THAT WAS OUR STRENGTH. 330 00:45:52,883 --> 00:46:05,662 >> AND THAT CULTURE REMAINED STRONG. THOUSANDS OF BHUTANESE GATHER FOR SEASONAL RELIGIOUS FESTIVALS 331 00:46:05,729 --> 00:46:12,236 WITH SONGS IN THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE, DZONGKHA, AND CENTURIES-OLD DANCES AND COSTUMES. 332 00:46:12,302 --> 00:46:20,544 THIS IS NOT A TOURIST-FOCUSED SPECTACLE, THOUGH FOREIGNERS ARE WELCOME. THIS IS CLEARLY FOR THE 333 00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:26,817 BHUTANESE, WHO COME DRESSED IN THEIR FINEST. >> TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE WEARING BECAUSE THIS IS THE 334 00:46:26,884 --> 00:46:35,792 TRADITIONAL DRESS FOR A MAN. >> MY WIFE SAID, IT'S THE MEN WHO WEAR THE SKIRTS IN THIS COUNTRY, SHOWING OUR KNEES. 335 00:46:35,859 --> 00:46:43,834 THIS IS CALLED A GHO, AND IT'S COLORFUL USING NATURAL DYE. >> IT'S VERY OLD FASHIONED. >> WE CAME TO REALIZE THAT, YOU 336 00:46:43,901 --> 00:46:55,546 KNOW, WHAT WE HAD IN THE PAST, WHAT IS OLD IS ACTUALLY VERY VALUABLE. >> GHOS ALSO DOUBLE AS ATHLETIC 337 00:46:55,612 --> 00:47:02,953 WEAR FOR BHUTAN'S NATIONAL SPORT, ARCHERY. THEY'RE USING TRADITIONAL BOWS AND ARROWS MADE OF BAMBOO 338 00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:10,093 SHOOTING AT A TARGET A FOOTBALL FIELD AND A HALF AWAY. >> OH, HE HIT IT. HE HIT IT. 339 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:20,938 >> SO, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THE TWO TEAMS DANCING NOW. >> THEY DANCE? >> THEY DANCE AND THEY SING. 340 00:47:21,004 --> 00:47:28,078 >> RABSEL DORJI, WHO ONCE WORKED AT THE U.N., WAS A TEENAGER WHEN TELEVISION CAME TO BHUTAN 25 YEARS AGO. 341 00:47:28,145 --> 00:47:40,791 >> I REMEMBER FIXING THE ANTENNA IN MY HOUSE FOR MY MOM TO WATCH. >> I WONDER HOW RAPIDLY CHANGE HAS COME HERE. 342 00:47:40,857 --> 00:47:49,399 IT'S ALMOST HEAD SPINNING. >> MY FATHER, MY LATE FATHER, WHEN HE WAS GROWING UP IN THE '60s AND '70s, BHUTAN WAS -- 343 00:47:49,466 --> 00:47:55,272 THERE WERE NO ROADS IN THE COUNTRY. HE HAD TO TRAVEL TWO OR THREE DAYS ON HORSEBACK TO GOAT 344 00:47:55,339 --> 00:48:04,147 SCHOOL. >> BHUTAN WAS AND IS TODAY, MANY FAMILIES STILL LIVE IN MULTIGENERATIONAL FARMHOUSES. 345 00:48:04,214 --> 00:48:11,788 THE COUNTRY WAS UNIFIED BY THE MAN WHO BECAME ITS FIRST KING IN 1907. HIS SONS AND GRANDSONS, WHO 346 00:48:11,855 --> 00:48:21,798 BHUTANESE REFER TO AS THE SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, AND TODAY FIFTH KINGS HAVE REIGNED SINCE. BUT IT WAS THE FOURTH KING WHO, 347 00:48:21,865 --> 00:48:33,143 AS A YOUNG NEWLY CROWNED RULER IN THE 1970s, REALLY SET BHUTAN ON ITS UNIQUE PATH TO MODERNITY. HE WAS FLYING HOME FROM THE 348 00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:45,455 SUMMIT OF NON-ALIGNED NATIONS IN CUBA AND LANDED AT AN AIRPORT IN INDIA SINCE BHUTAN STILL DIDN'T HAVE ONE. 349 00:48:45,522 --> 00:48:53,196 >> INDIAN JOURNALISTS MET THEM AT THE AIRPORT, AND THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, BHUTAN IS OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR. 350 00:48:53,263 --> 00:49:00,804 WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BHUTAN. WHAT'S YOUR GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT? THE KING SAID, ACTUALLY IN 351 00:49:00,871 --> 00:49:08,512 BHUTAN, GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT. >> SO, SEXY HEADLINE. 352 00:49:08,578 --> 00:49:15,686 >> SEXY HEADLINE THAT GOT INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION. >> BHUTAN IS PUTTING BEFORE US A FRAMEWORK FOR A NEW ECONOMIC 353 00:49:15,752 --> 00:49:22,492 PARADIGM. >> THE U.N. CONVENED A SPECIAL MEETING IN 2012 AND ADOPTED A RESOLUTION, URGING OTHERS TO 354 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:30,367 FOLLOW BHUTAN'S LEAD. >> SO, TELL ME ABOUT -- >> AND IN BHUTAN, IT BECAME THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF 355 00:49:30,434 --> 00:49:41,011 GOVERNMENT, LED TODAY BY PRIME MINISTER TSHERING TOBGAY. EXPLAIN NATIONAL HAPPINESS. WHAT IS IT? 356 00:49:41,078 --> 00:49:53,623 >> THE LAST 300 YEARS WE'VE BEEN OBSESSED WITH GROWTH. GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS ACKNOWLEDGES THAT GROWTH IS 357 00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:59,963 IMPORTANT, BUT IT MUST BE BALANCED. PEOPLE MATTER. OUR HAPPINESS, OUR WELL BEING 358 00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:06,136 MATTERS. EVERYTHING SHOULD SERVE THAT. >> SO, EVERY FIVE YEARS, SURVEYORS TRAVEL THROUGHOUT 359 00:50:06,203 --> 00:50:16,313 BHUTAN, MEASURING THE NATION'S HAPPINESS. THEY ASK ABOUT EDUCATION LEVEL, SALARY, MATERIAL POSSESSIONS, DO 360 00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:23,019 YOU HAVE NEGATIVE THOUGHTS, POSITIVE THOUGHTS, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND WORKING, PRAYING, SLEEPING? 361 00:50:23,086 --> 00:50:33,029 THE RESULTS ARE ANALYZED AND FACTORED INTO PUBLIC POLICY. >> BUT PEOPLE HERE DON'T WALK AROUND SMILING AND LAUGHING ALL 362 00:50:33,096 --> 00:50:37,501 THE TIME. THEY LOOK, TO ME, LIKE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE. >> GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS -- 363 00:50:37,567 --> 00:50:49,813 >> YEAH. >> -- DOES NOT DIRECTLY EQUATE TO HAPPINESS IN THE INMOMENT. ONE EMOTION IS HAPPINESS AND 364 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,684 JOY. THE OTHER IS CONTENTMENT, TO BE HAPPY WITH LIFE, TO BE HAPPY WITH ONESELF. 365 00:50:54,751 --> 00:51:00,824 AND THAT'S WHAT GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS IS ALL ABOUT. >> IT'S ALSO ABOUT NATURE. BY LAW, AT LEAST 60% OF THE 366 00:51:00,891 --> 00:51:08,598 COUNTRY MUST REMAIN UNDER FOREST COVER. AND WITH MOST OF ITS ENERGY COMING FROM HYDROELECTRIC POWER, 367 00:51:08,665 --> 00:51:19,209 BHUTAN WAS THE FIRST AND TODAY ONE OF THE ONLY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD TO BE CARBON NEGATIVE. IT EARNS FOREIGN REVENUE SELLING 368 00:51:19,276 --> 00:51:28,084 EXCESS HYDROPOWER TO INDIA AND FROM TOURISM. BUT THERE ARE LIMITS. >> YOU HAVE ALL THESE GORGEOUS 369 00:51:28,151 --> 00:51:32,289 MOUNTAINS, BUT YOU DON'T ALLOW MOUNTAIN CLIMBING. >> YES. >> THAT REALLY SURPRISED ME. 370 00:51:32,355 --> 00:51:37,160 WHY NOT? >> FOR BHUTANESE, IT'S VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THE MOUNTAINS ARE SACRED. 371 00:51:37,227 --> 00:51:47,037 >> THE MOUNTAINS ARE SACRED. >> SACRED, HOME OF DEITIES. WE DON'T CLIMB ALL OF IT, THOSE SACRED. 372 00:51:47,103 --> 00:51:57,514 NATURE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO CONQUER. IT'S SOMETHING TO BE RESPECTED. >> SCHOOL IS TAUGHT IN ENGLISH 373 00:51:57,581 --> 00:52:04,988 AND IS FREE, AS IS HEALTH CARE. MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN A COUNTRY STILL CONSIDERED A DEVELOPING NATION. 374 00:52:05,055 --> 00:52:14,898 OH, AND THERE'S ONE MORE THING, THAT KING, WHO INTRODUCED GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS, 25 YEARS LATER DECIDED THAT HAPPINESS 375 00:52:14,965 --> 00:52:24,641 REQUIRED ANOTHER BIG CHANGE, THE RIGHT TO ELECT A PARLIAMENT AND PRIME MINISTER. >> BHUTAN IS THE ONLY COUNTRY 376 00:52:24,708 --> 00:52:34,251 WHERE DEMOCRACY WAS INTRODUCED IN A TIME OF PEACE AND STABILITY, WHERE DEMOCRACY WAS LITERALLY GIFTED, IMPOSED ON THE 377 00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:39,289 PEOPLE -- NOT JUST GIFTED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT IT. >> NO ONE WAS CLAMORING FOR IT. 378 00:52:39,356 --> 00:52:50,634 IT WASN'T THE FRENCH REVOLUTION. THERE WAS NO REVOLUTION. HE JUST DECIDED. >> AS A REPORTER, DORJI COVERED 379 00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:58,909 THE KING'S TRAVELS TO ALL OVER BHUTAN. >> THE ONLY CONSULTATION I SAW WAS PEOPLE BEGGING HIM NOT TO DO 380 00:52:58,975 --> 00:53:01,912 THIS. >> PEOPLE DID NOT WANT DEMOCRACY? >> YES, YES. 381 00:53:01,978 --> 00:53:08,218 AND THEY'RE PLEADING. VERY ARTICULATE ARGUMENTS OF WHY. THEY LOOKED AROUND THE WORLD, 382 00:53:08,285 --> 00:53:16,927 THEIR HORIZON WAS INDIA, NEPAL, BANGLADESH, PAKISTAN. DEMOCRACY. WHICH IS REALLY SYNONYMOUS WITH 383 00:53:16,993 --> 00:53:23,300 VIOLENCE, CORRUPTION. SO, THEY SAY, NO THANK YOU. WE DON'T REALLY NEED THAT. WE ARE FINE. 384 00:53:23,366 --> 00:53:27,971 >> HE DEFIED THE PEOPLE AND IMPOSED DEMOCRACY. >> YEAH. YOU COULDN'T ARGUE WITH HIM. 385 00:53:28,038 --> 00:53:36,079 HE HAD ARGUMENTS LIKE YOU LEAVE THE SMALL COUNTRY IN THE HANDS OF ONE MAN WHOSE CHOSEN BY BIRTH AND NOT MY MERIT. 386 00:53:36,146 --> 00:53:47,324 ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE A BACKING. >> AND WITH THAT, THE FOURTH KING ABDICATED AT JUST 51, PASSING THE CROWN TO HIS 387 00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:53,063 26-YEAR-OLD SON, THE FIFTH AND CURRENT KING. BHUTANESE HEADED TO THE POLLS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. 388 00:53:53,129 --> 00:54:04,307 THE RESULT IS HARD TO WRAP A WESTERN HEAD AROUND. A DEMOCRACY, WHERE THE KING IS UNIVERSALLY ADORED -- THAT'S HIM 389 00:54:04,374 --> 00:54:13,650 SWEARING IN THE PRIME MINISTER, AND THE TWO WORK TOGETHER AS PARTNERS, QUITE THE HAPPILY EVER AFTER ENDING, EXCEPT THIS WOULD 390 00:54:13,717 --> 00:54:20,924 WOULD-BE FAIRY TALE HAS AN UNEXPECTED PLOT TWIST. YOUNG BHUTANESE ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY IN RECORD NUMBERS. 391 00:54:20,991 --> 00:54:27,564 >> THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION FOR BHUTAN. >> YOU CALLED IT EXISTENTIAL. >> IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS. 392 00:54:27,631 --> 00:54:43,480 >> WHEN WE COME BACK. [ STOPWATC [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> SO, HOW DID BHUTAN, A 393 00:54:43,546 --> 00:54:51,588 COUNTRY THAT PRIORITIZES ITS PEOPLE'S HAPPINESS, FIND ITSELF WITH SO MANY OF THEM LEAVING? WELL, IT STARTED WITH COVID, 394 00:54:51,655 --> 00:55:00,096 WHICH HIT BHUTAN'S ECONOMY HARD, SHUTTING DOWN TOURISM. AND RECOVERY HAS BEEN SLOW. MANY BHUTANESE, WITH THEIR 395 00:55:00,163 --> 00:55:09,239 EXCELLENT ENGLISH, FOUND HIGHER-PAYING JOBS IN AUSTRALIA, EVEN DOING MENIAL LABOR. WORD SPREAD ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND 396 00:55:09,305 --> 00:55:19,382 NOW A DEVASTATING 9% OF THE COUNTRY'S POPULATION HAS LEFT, MOST OF THEM YOUNG. BHUTAN'S GOVERNMENT HAS 397 00:55:19,449 --> 00:55:25,522 MOBILIZED, WITH THE KING LAUNCHING A BOLD, HIGH-STAKES PLAN, AND SOMETHING OF AN EXPERIMENT. 398 00:55:25,588 --> 00:55:36,933 CAN HE CREATE A PLACE WHERE DEVELOPMENT AND WEALTH CAN COEXIST WITH SACRED VALUES? >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH SKILLS, 399 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:48,278 PEOPLE IN MY AGE GROUP. >> NAMGAY ZAM IS A JOURNALIST WHO USED TO ANCHOR BHUTAN'S NIGHTLY NEW 400 00:55:48,344 --> 00:56:00,223 NIGHTLY NEWSCAST. >> THERE ARE JUST TWO OF US LEFT IN THE COUNTRY, EDITORS, GRAPHIC DESIGNERS, SOUND PEOPLE. 401 00:56:00,290 --> 00:56:03,526 YES YES. >> THEY'VE LEFT THE COUNTRY? >> THEY'VE LEFT THE COUNTRY. 402 00:56:03,593 --> 00:56:12,135 >> OUTSIDE BHUTAN'S AIRPORT WE SAW A SORT OF PICNIC, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD-BYE. >> THE WHOLE FAMILY OFTEN GOES 403 00:56:12,202 --> 00:56:19,609 TO THE AIRPORT. >> OFTEN SEVERAL GENERATIONS. >> WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO OUR FAMILIES, SO WHEN SOMEONE LIVES 404 00:56:19,676 --> 00:56:26,483 SO FAR AWAY, THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT MEAL TOGETHER WITH THE FAMILY WILL BE. THERE'S ANOTHER ADVANTAGE WHERE 405 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:32,021 YOU CAN SEE THE PLANE TAKEOFF, SO MANY OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS WILL WAVE THEM GOOD-BYE AND SEE THEM OFF. 406 00:56:32,088 --> 00:56:36,826 THAT'S A VERY EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE. >> SO MANY OF YOUR PEOPLE ARE LEAVING. 407 00:56:36,893 --> 00:56:44,834 I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS. HAS GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS BEEN A FAILURE? >> GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS HAS 408 00:56:44,901 --> 00:56:56,079 SUCCEEDED. >> BUT IF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING -- >> I AM 58 YEARS OLD. IN MY GENERATION, THE TERM HAS 409 00:56:56,146 --> 00:57:05,989 TRANSFORMED FROM A MEDIEVAL SOCIETY LITERALLY WITH NO ROADS NO, CLEAN DRINKING WATER, LIFE EXPECTANCY IN THE 40s, VERY FEW 410 00:57:06,055 --> 00:57:12,862 SCHOOLS. WHAT YOU SEE TODAY, WE HAVE FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH CARE, WHERE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS NOW 411 00:57:12,929 --> 00:57:19,536 CROSSING 70 YEARS OLD, WHERE OUR ECONOMY, WHILE IT'S STILL SMALL, HAS BEEN GROWING ON AVERAGE OF ABOUT 6%. 412 00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:26,209 AND IT'S GROWING WITHOUT DESTROYING, UNDERMINING CULTURE. SO, BY THESE MEASUREMENTS, I WOULD SAY GROSS NATIONAL 413 00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:33,483 HAPPINESS HAS SUCCEEDED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, PERHAPS IT HAS SUCCEEDED BEYOND OUR WILDEST DREAMS. 414 00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:41,891 >> MEANING HE BELIEVES IT'S IRONICALLY THE SUCCESS OF GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS THAT HAS MADE BHUTANESE YOUNG PEOPLE SOUGHT 415 00:57:41,958 --> 00:57:50,600 AFTER ABROAD. >> WE HAVE TO LURE THEM BACK. AND THE ONLY WAY TO LURE THEM BACK IS BY GOOD, WELL-PAYING 416 00:57:50,667 --> 00:57:57,207 JOBS. >> SO, HE'S TRYING TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESS AND TOURISTS TO BHUTAN, HIGHLIGHTING LANDMARKS, 417 00:57:57,273 --> 00:58:07,717 LIKE THIS CENTURIES-OLD SUSPENSION BRIDGE, PART OF AN ANCIENT 250-MILE TRAIL FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTRY TO THE OTHER. 418 00:58:07,784 --> 00:58:14,257 >> ORIGINALLY THIS WAS A HIGHWAY. >> NOW RESTORED TO WELCOME TREKKING TOURISTS. 419 00:58:14,324 --> 00:58:22,065 >> AND NEAR THE BRIDGE AT TWILIGHT, ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS WE'D EVER SEEN BUILT IN THE 1600s. 420 00:58:22,131 --> 00:58:31,574 BUT TOURISM CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. AND BHUTAN'S KING KNOWS IT. SO, WHILE HE NEVER GIVES ON-CAMERA INTERVIEWS, HE DID 421 00:58:31,641 --> 00:58:40,383 GRANT US A ROYAL AUDIENCE TO SHARE WHAT MIGHT BE CALLED AN ENLIGHTENED HAIL MARY. HE'S DECIDED TO CREATE A NEW 422 00:58:40,450 --> 00:58:50,760 CITY IN SOUTHERN BHUTAN WITH DIFFERENT RULES FROM THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, AN ATTEMPT AT A NEW MODEL OF ROBUST ECONOMIC 423 00:58:50,827 --> 00:59:01,871 DEVELOPMENT STILL TRUE TO BHUTANESE VALUES. CITY. AND TO DESIGN IT, HE TURNED TO 424 00:59:01,938 --> 00:59:09,846 DANISH ARCHITECT, BJARKE INGLES. >> THERE IS A REASON TO DO SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY. >> INGLES IS KNOWN FOR HIS 425 00:59:09,913 --> 00:59:15,818 INNOVATIVE BUILDINGS, LIKE THIS NEW YORK CITY SKRIE SCRAPER. >> WHAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE HERE? 426 00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:22,759 >> THE BIG QUESTION IS, CAN YOU CREATE A SPACE FOR ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT SACRIFICING THE VALUES AND 427 00:59:22,825 --> 00:59:32,969 CULTURAL RICHES THAT THEY HAVE TODAY? YOU HAVE 34 RIVERS. >> AS INGLES SHOWED US IN THESE 428 00:59:33,036 --> 00:59:39,609 RENDERINGS, THE NEW CITY WILL HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS NESTED BETWEEN THE MANY RIVERS CONNECTED BY A SERIES OF UNUSUAL 429 00:59:39,676 --> 00:59:44,414 BRIDGES. >> WE GOT THE IDEA THAT THE BRIDGES COULD BE THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS. 430 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:49,852 >> THIS IS A BRIDGE? >> THIS IS A BRIDGE THAT IS ALSO A -- THIS IS A HEALTH CARE BRIDGE. 431 00:59:49,919 --> 00:59:54,357 IT ACTUALLY HAS HEALTH CARE FACILITIES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. THIS IS A UNIVERSITY BRIDGE. 432 00:59:54,424 --> 01:00:01,931 >> ALL BUILT WITH LOCAL MATERIALS. THIS WILL BE THE DOWNTOWN, NO SKYSCRAPERS. 433 01:00:01,998 --> 01:00:11,507 TO SEE THE SITE, WE FLEW ABOUT AN HOUR SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL, LEAVING BEHIND THOSE SACRED HIMALAYAN PEAKS FOR BHUTAN'S 434 01:00:11,574 --> 01:00:18,348 TROPICAL LOWLANDS. AND WE CLIMBED TO A LOOKOUT WHERE THERE WASN'T MUCH TO SEE. >> THIS IS EMPTY RIGHT NOW. 435 01:00:18,414 --> 01:00:29,359 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE NEW CITY HERE. >> OUR GUIDE WAS DR. LOTAY TSHERING, A FORMER PRIME 436 01:00:29,425 --> 01:00:36,566 MINISTER WHO THE KING HAS TAPPED TO GOVERN THE NEW CITY. HE TOLD US IT WILL BE BUILT IN PHASES OVER THE NEXT TWO 437 01:00:36,632 --> 01:00:44,907 DECADES, WITH NO POLLUTING INDUSTRIES ALLOWED. >> WE HAVE LOTS OF WILDLIFE. >> YOU HAVE ELEPHANTS? 438 01:00:44,974 --> 01:00:56,319 >> YES. >> AND SURE ENOUGH, WE SPOTTED THIS FAMILY A FEW HOURS LATER JUST OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. 439 01:00:56,386 --> 01:01:07,764 AS HABITAT SLINHRINKS ELSEWHERE MORE ELEPHANTS AND EVEN TIGERS ARE FINDING NEW LIFE IN BHUTAN, AND THE NEW CITY WILL HAVE 440 01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:12,568 WILDLIFE CORRIDORS TO PROTECT THEM. >> THE KING HAS SAID, THE FUTURE OF BHUTAN HANGS ON THIS PROJECT. 441 01:01:12,635 --> 01:01:18,641 IT'S HUGE. >> IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH ANYMORE. BHUTANESE, WHEN WE SAY WE FOLLOW 442 01:01:18,708 --> 01:01:26,082 THE PRINCIPLES OF GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS, WE DO NOT MEAN WE ARE HAPPY WITH LESS. WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS. 443 01:01:26,149 --> 01:01:35,224 WE ALSO WANT MORE. WE ALSO WANT TO BE WE WANT BHUTANESE TO BE HEADING MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES, 444 01:01:35,291 --> 01:01:42,098 MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES, BUT FOLLOWING A PHILOSOPHY OF GROSS NATIONAL HAPPINESS. >> HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO WORK? 445 01:01:42,165 --> 01:01:49,839 WELL, THIS BHUTANESE TEAM IS COLLABORATING WITH EXPERTS AROUND THE WORLD, SEEKING INVESTORS FOR WHAT'S SURE TO 446 01:01:49,906 --> 01:01:57,747 COST IN THE BILLIONS. THE CITY WILL HAVE ITS OWN LEGAL FRAMEWORK MODELLED ON SINGAPORE'S AND WILL OFFER 447 01:01:57,814 --> 01:02:03,820 PLENTIFUL, CLEAN, HYDROELECTRIC POWER THEY HOPE WILL DRAW TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES, ESPECIALLY A.I. 448 01:02:03,886 --> 01:02:09,792 >> SO, IMAGINE THIS IS THE UPPER PART OF THE RIVER. >> TO CAPTURE THAT HYDROELECTRIC POWER -- 449 01:02:09,859 --> 01:02:18,167 >> AND THEN THIS IS ROUGHLY 500 FEET. >> -- INKGLES HAS DESIGNED A COLORFUL DAM THAT'S ALSO 450 01:02:18,234 --> 01:02:26,275 SOMETHING YOU CAN WALK DOWN. >> ALL OF THESE LITTLE DIAMOND SHAPES ARE ACTUALLY STAIRS. AND YOU GET THIS EXPERIENCE. 451 01:02:26,342 --> 01:02:33,649 SO, YOU'RE STANDING AT THE TOP OF THE DAM LOOKING DOWN. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THIS MAJOR ROOF IS THE TEMPLE. 452 01:02:33,716 --> 01:02:39,322 >> A TEMPLE? >> A TEMPLE. >> ON -- >> ON THE FACE OF THE DAM 453 01:02:39,388 --> 01:02:45,695 OVERLOOKING THE RIVER AND THE VALLEY. >> I BET THE KING LOVES THIS. >> INGLES PRESENTED HIS PLANS TO 454 01:02:45,761 --> 01:02:52,435 THE KING AND THE KING TO THE NATION LAST DECEMBER. >> ON DECEMBER 17, THE NATIONAL DAY OF BHUTAN, THEY FILL A 455 01:02:52,502 --> 01:03:03,746 STADIUM, A SPORTS STADIUM. SO, WHEN YOU GO TO THAT STADIUM, IT LOOKS LIKE A QUIDDITCH MATCH. AND THE KING BASICALLY SPEAKS TO 456 01:03:03,813 --> 01:03:11,154 HIS PEOPLE. >> HIS TOPIC, THE MINDFULNESS CITY AND HIS HOPES FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES IT WILL CREATE TO 457 01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:19,295 KEEP BHUTANESE IN BHUTAN. NAMGAY ZAM, MEANWHILE, HAD DIFFERENT PLANS INVOLVING AUSTRALIA. 458 01:03:19,362 --> 01:03:24,967 >> YOU THOUGHT ABOUT LEAVING. >> OH, I DIDN'T JUST THINK ABOUT LEAVING. LIKE, EVERYTHING WAS UNDERWAY. 459 01:03:25,034 --> 01:03:32,241 >> BUT THEN SHE WENT TO HEAR THE KING THAT DAY. >> AND HE DID ONE THING HE HAD NEVER DONE BEFORE. 460 01:03:32,308 --> 01:03:37,947 HE ASKED PEOPLE TO HELP HIM DIRECTLY, AND HE SAID, WILL YOU HELP ME. AND THERE WAS SHOCKED SILENCE. 461 01:03:38,014 --> 01:03:46,789 EVEN FOR ME, I WAS LIKE, DID HE JUST ASK US TO HELP HIM? AND HE SAID, WILL YOU HELP ME A SECOND TIME. 462 01:03:46,856 --> 01:03:49,392 [ SPEAKING IN A GLOBAL LANGUAGE ] >> AND THERE WAS A RESOUNDING YES, AND I SAID YES. 463 01:03:49,458 --> 01:03:58,034 AND I CAME AND I TOLD MY HUSBAND, I SAID, WE CAN'T LEAVE. HE SAID, WHY? I SAID, I SIGNED AN OFFICIAL 464 01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:05,341 CONTRACT WITH HIS MAJESTY BECAUSE I SAID YES. >> YOU'RE SO SOPHISTICATED, YOU'RE WORLDLY, AND YET YOUR 465 01:04:05,408 --> 01:04:11,113 KING ASKED YOU TO HELP -- >> I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE. THERE WERE, LIKE, 30,000 PEOPLE THERE. 466 01:04:11,180 --> 01:04:18,521 NOT LIKE HE ASKED ME. >> SHE'S DECIDED TO STAY. AND INSTEAD IT WAS THE KING AND HIS FAMILY WHO WENT TO AUSTRALIA 467 01:04:18,588 --> 01:04:26,629 JUST LAST MONTH TO BRING HIS VISION TO 20,000 BHUTANESE WHO LIVE HERE NOW AND WHO HE'S HOPING TO ONE DAY LURE BACK 468 01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:33,402 HOME. >> IF WE SUCCEED, WE CAN SHOW THAT YOU CAN CREATE A CITY THAT DOES NOT DISPLACE NATURE, THAT 469 01:04:33,469 --> 01:04:41,077 IS ANCHORED AND ROOTED IN THE LOCAL HERITAGE AND CULTURE, AND THAT STILL ALLOWS FOR PROSPERITY AND GROWTH TO HAPPEN. 470 01:04:41,143 --> 01:04:56,225 THAT IS A CHALLENGE THAT A LOT OF PLACES IN THE WORLD ARE STRUGGLING WITH. >> CULTURE, TRADITION, 471 01:04:56,292 --> 01:05:14,310 MODERNITY, IF THIS REMOTE FAIRY TALE LAND CAN GRACEFULLY MASTER THAT DANCE, PERHAPS THEY'LL HAVE >>> I'M LESLEY STAHL. 472 01:05:14,377 --> 01:05:16,812 WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF "60 MINUTES."