1 00:00:01,495 --> 00:00:09,792 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 2 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:10,627 [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >>> WHAT YOU’RE SEEING IS 3 00:00:10,627 --> 00:00:11,759 >>> WHAT YOU’RE SEEING IS EXTRAORDINARY -- 4 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:15,594 EXTRAORDINARY -- >> THIS IS AN FBI SCENE. 5 00:00:15,594 --> 00:00:16,231 >> THIS IS AN FBI SCENE. >> -- ARMED FEDERAL AGENTS 6 00:00:16,231 --> 00:00:16,825 >> -- ARMED FEDERAL AGENTS SEIZING BALLOTS FROM A LOCAL 7 00:00:16,825 --> 00:00:18,528 SEIZING BALLOTS FROM A LOCAL ELECTION FACILITY. 8 00:00:18,528 --> 00:00:19,792 ELECTION FACILITY. >> THEY HAD VESTS. 9 00:00:19,792 --> 00:00:21,429 >> THEY HAD VESTS. THEY HAD GUNS, AS IF THEY WERE 10 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:23,000 THEY HAD GUNS, AS IF THEY WERE RAIDING A DRUG HOUSE. 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,726 RAIDING A DRUG HOUSE. >> WITH THE MIDTERMS TWO WEEKS 12 00:00:23,726 --> 00:00:26,891 >> WITH THE MIDTERMS TWO WEEKS AWAY, STATE ELECTION OFFICIALS 13 00:00:26,891 --> 00:00:27,693 AWAY, STATE ELECTION OFFICIALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE BEING 14 00:00:27,693 --> 00:00:28,693 ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE BEING THREATENED. 15 00:00:28,693 --> 00:00:29,363 THREATENED. >> Reporter: YOU COULD GO TO 16 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:30,132 >> Reporter: YOU COULD GO TO PRISON. 17 00:00:30,132 --> 00:00:30,924 PRISON. >> WE’RE NOT GOING TO PRISON. 18 00:00:30,924 --> 00:00:31,495 >> WE’RE NOT GOING TO PRISON. NO. 19 00:00:31,495 --> 00:00:34,462 NO. IT’S SILLY. 20 00:00:34,462 --> 00:00:35,099 IT’S SILLY. >> Reporter: YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY 21 00:00:35,099 --> 00:00:35,825 >> Reporter: YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE? 22 00:00:35,825 --> 00:00:44,561 SURE? >> WELL. 23 00:00:44,561 --> 00:00:45,891 >> WELL. >>> THE WAR WITH IRAN IS 24 00:00:45,891 --> 00:00:47,165 >>> THE WAR WITH IRAN IS CUTTING OFF A RESOURCE CRITICAL 25 00:00:47,165 --> 00:00:48,429 CUTTING OFF A RESOURCE CRITICAL FOR NEARLY EVERY MODERN PRODUCT 26 00:00:48,429 --> 00:00:51,759 FOR NEARLY EVERY MODERN PRODUCT WE MAKE: HELIUM. 27 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:54,099 WE MAKE: HELIUM. NO HELIUM, NO NEW CELLPHONES, 28 00:00:54,099 --> 00:00:56,495 NO HELIUM, NO NEW CELLPHONES, NO MRI MACHINES, NO MISSILES. 29 00:00:56,495 --> 00:00:57,462 NO MRI MACHINES, NO MISSILES. AND IT’S GETTING HARDER TO 30 00:00:57,462 --> 00:00:58,792 AND IT’S GETTING HARDER TO FIND. 31 00:00:58,792 --> 00:00:59,792 FIND. >> IF WE DO NOT HAVE HELIUM, 32 00:00:59,792 --> 00:01:01,033 >> IF WE DO NOT HAVE HELIUM, WE’LL HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. 33 00:01:01,033 --> 00:01:02,495 WE’LL HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. >> Reporter: SHUT DOWN? 34 00:01:02,495 --> 00:01:04,033 >> Reporter: SHUT DOWN? >> EVERYTHING GETS SHUT DOWN. 35 00:01:04,033 --> 00:01:09,066 >> EVERYTHING GETS SHUT DOWN. >> SO HOW MUCH HELIUM IS LEFT? 36 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:10,099 >> SO HOW MUCH HELIUM IS LEFT? >>> YOU’VE SEEN HIM INTERVIEW 37 00:01:10,099 --> 00:01:11,033 >>> YOU’VE SEEN HIM INTERVIEW SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN 38 00:01:11,033 --> 00:01:11,891 SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN THE WORLD. 39 00:01:11,891 --> 00:01:12,693 THE WORLD. >> IS IT BECAUSE I IS BLACK? 40 00:01:12,693 --> 00:01:14,462 >> IS IT BECAUSE I IS BLACK? >> YOU’RE BLACK? 41 00:01:14,462 --> 00:01:18,891 >> YOU’RE BLACK? WHO -- WHO IS BLACK? 42 00:01:18,891 --> 00:01:19,660 WHO -- WHO IS BLACK? >> THIS IS CALLED BUCKINGHAM 43 00:01:19,660 --> 00:01:21,099 >> THIS IS CALLED BUCKINGHAM PHALLUS. 44 00:01:21,099 --> 00:01:22,528 PHALLUS. >> NOW, AFTER 20 YEARS IN 45 00:01:22,528 --> 00:01:27,099 >> NOW, AFTER 20 YEARS IN REMISSION, ALI G IS BACK. 46 00:01:27,099 --> 00:01:28,297 REMISSION, ALI G IS BACK. >> I THOUGHT, "WOULD IT BE 47 00:01:28,297 --> 00:01:29,132 >> I THOUGHT, "WOULD IT BE FUNNY TO HAVE THE WORLD EXPERT 48 00:01:29,132 --> 00:01:29,891 FUNNY TO HAVE THE WORLD EXPERT IN SOMETHING WITH THE BIGGEST 49 00:01:29,891 --> 00:01:33,066 IN SOMETHING WITH THE BIGGEST IDIOT IN THE WORLD?" 50 00:01:33,066 --> 00:01:36,561 IDIOT IN THE WORLD?" >> [ BEAT BOXING ] 51 00:01:36,561 --> 00:01:37,858 >> [ BEAT BOXING ] >> I’M LESLEY STAHL. 52 00:01:37,858 --> 00:01:39,297 >> I’M LESLEY STAHL. >> I’M JON WERTHEIM. 53 00:01:39,297 --> 00:01:40,693 >> I’M JON WERTHEIM. >> I’M NORAH O’DONNELL. 54 00:01:40,693 --> 00:01:42,495 >> I’M NORAH O’DONNELL. >> I’M ROSS DOUTHAT. 55 00:01:42,495 --> 00:01:43,825 >> I’M ROSS DOUTHAT. >> I’M ARIEL LEVY. 56 00:01:43,825 --> 00:01:46,033 >> I’M ARIEL LEVY. >> I’M BILL WHITAKER. 57 00:01:46,033 --> 00:01:47,297 >> I’M BILL WHITAKER. THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT 58 00:01:47,297 --> 00:01:49,759 THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT ON 60 MINUTES. 59 00:01:59,528 --> 00:02:01,396 >>> THE MIDTERMS ARE JUST TWO 60 00:02:01,396 --> 00:02:02,792 >>> THE MIDTERMS ARE JUST TWO WEEKS AWAY AND PRESIDENT TRUMP 61 00:02:02,792 --> 00:02:03,594 WEEKS AWAY AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS USING HIS POWER TO 62 00:02:03,594 --> 00:02:04,528 IS USING HIS POWER TO INTIMIDATE THE PEOPLE WHO RUN 63 00:02:04,528 --> 00:02:07,429 INTIMIDATE THE PEOPLE WHO RUN OUR ELECTIONS, PUTTING THE 64 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:08,132 OUR ELECTIONS, PUTTING THE VOTING SYSTEM UNDER REMARKABLE 65 00:02:08,132 --> 00:02:13,528 VOTING SYSTEM UNDER REMARKABLE STRESS. 66 00:02:13,528 --> 00:02:15,363 STRESS. THE LATEST MOVE CAME ON FRIDAY 67 00:02:15,363 --> 00:02:17,462 THE LATEST MOVE CAME ON FRIDAY WHEN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT 68 00:02:17,462 --> 00:02:20,099 WHEN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THREATENED TO PROSECUTE 69 00:02:20,099 --> 00:02:22,033 THREATENED TO PROSECUTE CALIFORNIA ELECTION OFFICIALS 70 00:02:22,033 --> 00:02:23,759 CALIFORNIA ELECTION OFFICIALS IF THEY KNOWINGLY COUNT MAIL-IN 71 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:25,528 IF THEY KNOWINGLY COUNT MAIL-IN BALLOTS FROM 20,000 PEOPLE THE 72 00:02:25,528 --> 00:02:27,594 BALLOTS FROM 20,000 PEOPLE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAYS ARE 73 00:02:27,594 --> 00:02:30,825 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAYS ARE "LIKELY NONCITIZENS." 74 00:02:30,825 --> 00:02:32,462 "LIKELY NONCITIZENS." IT’S THE LATEST IN A SEQUENCE 75 00:02:32,462 --> 00:02:34,033 IT’S THE LATEST IN A SEQUENCE OF ACTIONS THAT HAS BRED AN 76 00:02:34,033 --> 00:02:36,132 OF ACTIONS THAT HAS BRED AN EROSION OF FAITH IN THE 77 00:02:36,132 --> 00:02:38,924 EROSION OF FAITH IN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS. 78 00:02:38,924 --> 00:02:40,462 INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS. OUR STORY FOCUSES ON HOW STATE 79 00:02:40,462 --> 00:02:42,066 OUR STORY FOCUSES ON HOW STATE AND LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS 80 00:02:42,066 --> 00:02:44,066 AND LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS ARE BEING PRESSURED IN A WAY 81 00:02:44,066 --> 00:02:47,396 ARE BEING PRESSURED IN A WAY THAT IS STOKING THAT DISTRUST. 82 00:02:47,396 --> 00:02:48,792 THAT IS STOKING THAT DISTRUST. WE START WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN 83 00:02:48,792 --> 00:02:50,330 WE START WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN GEORGIA THIS PAST JANUARY. 84 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:51,858 GEORGIA THIS PAST JANUARY. >> THIS IS A CRIMINAL SEARCH 85 00:02:51,858 --> 00:02:54,297 >> THIS IS A CRIMINAL SEARCH WARRANT. 86 00:02:54,297 --> 00:02:58,594 WARRANT. >> WHAT YOU’RE SEEING IS 87 00:02:58,594 --> 00:02:59,693 >> WHAT YOU’RE SEEING IS EXTRAORDINARY -- 88 00:02:59,693 --> 00:03:03,594 EXTRAORDINARY -- >> THIS IS AN FBI SCENE. 89 00:03:03,594 --> 00:03:04,165 >> THIS IS AN FBI SCENE. >> -- ARMED FEDERAL AGENTS 90 00:03:04,165 --> 00:03:05,033 >> -- ARMED FEDERAL AGENTS SEIZING BALLOTS FROM A LOCAL 91 00:03:05,033 --> 00:03:06,957 SEIZING BALLOTS FROM A LOCAL ELECTION FACILITY. 92 00:03:06,957 --> 00:03:08,165 ELECTION FACILITY. >> IN MY WILDEST DREAMS, I 93 00:03:08,165 --> 00:03:09,594 >> IN MY WILDEST DREAMS, I NEVER IMAGINED THAT WE WOULD BE 94 00:03:09,594 --> 00:03:10,792 NEVER IMAGINED THAT WE WOULD BE RAIDED BY THE FBI. 95 00:03:10,792 --> 00:03:12,066 RAIDED BY THE FBI. >> FULTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER 96 00:03:12,066 --> 00:03:13,330 >> FULTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER DEMOCRAT DANA BARRETT GOT A 97 00:03:13,330 --> 00:03:14,495 DEMOCRAT DANA BARRETT GOT A TEXT MESSAGE THAT SENT HER 98 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:15,825 TEXT MESSAGE THAT SENT HER RACING TO THIS WAREHOUSE NEAR 99 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:16,858 RACING TO THIS WAREHOUSE NEAR ATLANTA. 100 00:03:16,858 --> 00:03:18,033 ATLANTA. >> Reporter: WERE THE FBI 101 00:03:18,033 --> 00:03:19,264 >> Reporter: WERE THE FBI AGENTS INSIDE BY THE TIME YOU 102 00:03:19,264 --> 00:03:20,726 AGENTS INSIDE BY THE TIME YOU GOT HERE? 103 00:03:20,726 --> 00:03:22,033 GOT HERE? >> THEY WERE. 104 00:03:22,033 --> 00:03:23,264 >> THEY WERE. THEY HAD VESTS. 105 00:03:23,264 --> 00:03:24,462 THEY HAD VESTS. THEY HAD GUNS. 106 00:03:24,462 --> 00:03:25,462 THEY HAD GUNS. THEY HAD ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT 107 00:03:25,462 --> 00:03:26,627 THEY HAD ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT ON THEIR BELTS AS IF THEY WERE 108 00:03:26,627 --> 00:03:27,726 ON THEIR BELTS AS IF THEY WERE RAIDING A DRUG HOUSE. 109 00:03:27,726 --> 00:03:31,561 RAIDING A DRUG HOUSE. >> YEAH, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? 110 00:03:31,561 --> 00:03:32,792 >> YEAH, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? >> THERE WERE DOZENS OF AGENTS 111 00:03:32,792 --> 00:03:34,363 >> THERE WERE DOZENS OF AGENTS WHO GAINED ENTRY TO THE 112 00:03:34,363 --> 00:03:35,792 WHO GAINED ENTRY TO THE WAREHOUSE WITH A CRIMINAL 113 00:03:35,792 --> 00:03:37,231 WAREHOUSE WITH A CRIMINAL SEARCH WARRANT THAT ALLOWED 114 00:03:37,231 --> 00:03:38,429 SEARCH WARRANT THAT ALLOWED THEM TO SEIZE BALLOTS AND OTHER 115 00:03:38,429 --> 00:03:39,759 THEM TO SEIZE BALLOTS AND OTHER ELECTION MATERIALS FROM THE 116 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:41,561 ELECTION MATERIALS FROM THE 2020 ELECTION. 117 00:03:41,561 --> 00:03:43,000 2020 ELECTION. >> Reporter: IS THERE ANY WAY 118 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,825 >> Reporter: IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE SAID NO? 119 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:46,363 THAT YOU COULD HAVE SAID NO? >> NO. 120 00:03:46,363 --> 00:03:47,594 >> NO. THEY HAD A VALID WARRANT SIGNED 121 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:48,957 THEY HAD A VALID WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE. 122 00:03:48,957 --> 00:03:52,033 BY A JUDGE. WE DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE. 123 00:03:52,033 --> 00:03:53,066 WE DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE. >> THE AGENTS WORKED ALL DAY 124 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:54,363 >> THE AGENTS WORKED ALL DAY PACKING UP MORE THAN 600 BOXES 125 00:03:54,363 --> 00:03:58,396 PACKING UP MORE THAN 600 BOXES OF ELECTION RECORDS. 126 00:03:58,396 --> 00:03:59,825 OF ELECTION RECORDS. AFTER NIGHT FELL AND DIRECTOR 127 00:03:59,825 --> 00:04:01,198 AFTER NIGHT FELL AND DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE TULSI 128 00:04:01,198 --> 00:04:03,792 OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE TULSI GABBARD ARRIVED, THE BOXES WERE 129 00:04:03,792 --> 00:04:04,594 GABBARD ARRIVED, THE BOXES WERE LOADED ONTO TRUCKS AND 130 00:04:04,594 --> 00:04:07,066 LOADED ONTO TRUCKS AND DISAPPEARED. 131 00:04:07,066 --> 00:04:08,165 DISAPPEARED. >> Reporter: WHERE ARE THE 132 00:04:08,165 --> 00:04:09,561 >> Reporter: WHERE ARE THE BALLOTS NOW? 133 00:04:09,561 --> 00:04:10,924 BALLOTS NOW? >> WE HAVE NO IDEA. 134 00:04:10,924 --> 00:04:12,066 >> WE HAVE NO IDEA. >> Reporter: YOU DON’T KNOW 135 00:04:12,066 --> 00:04:13,198 >> Reporter: YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE THEY TOOK THEM? 136 00:04:13,198 --> 00:04:14,594 WHERE THEY TOOK THEM? >> NOPE. 137 00:04:14,594 --> 00:04:15,858 >> NOPE. >> Reporter: DO YOU KNOW WHAT 138 00:04:15,858 --> 00:04:17,132 >> Reporter: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GOING FOR? 139 00:04:17,132 --> 00:04:18,693 THEY WERE GOING FOR? >> LOOK, IT WAS IN MY OPINION 140 00:04:18,693 --> 00:04:19,759 >> LOOK, IT WAS IN MY OPINION POLITICAL THEATER AIMED AT 141 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:21,165 POLITICAL THEATER AIMED AT UNDERMINING THE 2026 AND 2028 142 00:04:21,165 --> 00:04:25,528 UNDERMINING THE 2026 AND 2028 ELECTIONS. 143 00:04:25,528 --> 00:04:27,033 ELECTIONS. >> Reporter:YOU THINK IT WAS AN 144 00:04:27,033 --> 00:04:29,132 >> Reporter:YOU THINK IT WAS AN INTIMIDATION FOR THE NEXT 145 00:04:29,132 --> 00:04:32,495 INTIMIDATION FOR THE NEXT ELECTION? 146 00:04:32,495 --> 00:04:34,033 ELECTION? >> I THINK IT WAS ALL PART OF 147 00:04:34,033 --> 00:04:35,462 >> I THINK IT WAS ALL PART OF THIS CONCERTED EFFORT THAT’S 148 00:04:35,462 --> 00:04:37,165 THIS CONCERTED EFFORT THAT’S HAPPENING NATIONWIDE TO 149 00:04:37,165 --> 00:04:41,495 HAPPENING NATIONWIDE TO UNDERMINE FAITH IN ELECTIONS. 150 00:04:41,495 --> 00:04:43,363 UNDERMINE FAITH IN ELECTIONS. >> WE OBTAINED THIS INTERNAL 151 00:04:43,363 --> 00:04:44,891 >> WE OBTAINED THIS INTERNAL FBI EMAIL TEMPORARILY 152 00:04:44,891 --> 00:04:46,231 FBI EMAIL TEMPORARILY REASSIGNING 260 ANALYSTS TO 153 00:04:46,231 --> 00:04:47,660 REASSIGNING 260 ANALYSTS TO WORK ON A "PRIORITY 154 00:04:47,660 --> 00:04:48,858 WORK ON A "PRIORITY INVESTIGATION" INTO THE GEORGIA 155 00:04:48,858 --> 00:04:50,066 INVESTIGATION" INTO THE GEORGIA MATERIALS. 156 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:51,099 MATERIALS. THAT WAS THREE MONTHS AGO. 157 00:04:51,099 --> 00:04:56,264 THAT WAS THREE MONTHS AGO. AND NOTHING HAS COME OF IT YET. 158 00:04:56,264 --> 00:04:57,396 AND NOTHING HAS COME OF IT YET. THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF 159 00:04:57,396 --> 00:04:58,363 THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF PROBES INTO THE 2020 ELECTION 160 00:04:58,363 --> 00:04:59,396 PROBES INTO THE 2020 ELECTION IN GEORGIA AND NONE HAVE MOVED 161 00:04:59,396 --> 00:05:01,495 IN GEORGIA AND NONE HAVE MOVED THE NEEDLE. 162 00:05:01,495 --> 00:05:03,891 THE NEEDLE. >> YOU TAKE A FRAUDULENT CLAIM. 163 00:05:03,891 --> 00:05:05,264 >> YOU TAKE A FRAUDULENT CLAIM. YOU INVESTIGATE IT AT THE STATE 164 00:05:05,264 --> 00:05:06,495 YOU INVESTIGATE IT AT THE STATE LEVEL. 165 00:05:06,495 --> 00:05:07,891 LEVEL. THEN THE FEDERAL LEVEL REFERS 166 00:05:07,891 --> 00:05:09,198 THEN THE FEDERAL LEVEL REFERS TO WHAT THE STATE DID. 167 00:05:09,198 --> 00:05:10,396 TO WHAT THE STATE DID. AND PEOPLE JUST SEE ALL OF 168 00:05:10,396 --> 00:05:11,693 AND PEOPLE JUST SEE ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS AND FBI 169 00:05:11,693 --> 00:05:12,924 THESE INVESTIGATIONS AND FBI RAIDS AND SUBPOENAS AND THEY 170 00:05:12,924 --> 00:05:14,561 RAIDS AND SUBPOENAS AND THEY SAY, "SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG 171 00:05:14,561 --> 00:05:16,528 SAY, "SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG THERE. 172 00:05:16,528 --> 00:05:17,693 THERE. WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE THE 173 00:05:17,693 --> 00:05:19,924 WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE THE RESULTS?" 174 00:05:19,924 --> 00:05:21,396 RESULTS?" >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS 175 00:05:21,396 --> 00:05:22,660 >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS CAST MORE DOUBT ABOUT THE 176 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:24,099 CAST MORE DOUBT ABOUT THE RELIABILITY OF OUR ELECTIONS BY 177 00:05:24,099 --> 00:05:25,165 RELIABILITY OF OUR ELECTIONS BY INVESTIGATING VOTING MACHINES 178 00:05:25,165 --> 00:05:26,627 INVESTIGATING VOTING MACHINES AND ACTUAL BALLOTS, WHICH THE 179 00:05:26,627 --> 00:05:27,528 AND ACTUAL BALLOTS, WHICH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS 180 00:05:27,528 --> 00:05:29,858 JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS ATTEMPTED IN SEVERAL STATES. 181 00:05:29,858 --> 00:05:31,231 ATTEMPTED IN SEVERAL STATES. >> I WAS A POLITICAL SCIENCE 182 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:33,627 >> I WAS A POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AT THE TIME. 183 00:05:33,627 --> 00:05:40,528 MAJOR AT THE TIME. >> THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF 184 00:05:40,528 --> 00:05:41,891 >> THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF UTAH, DEIDRE HENDERSON, TOLD US 185 00:05:41,891 --> 00:05:42,957 UTAH, DEIDRE HENDERSON, TOLD US IT’S A KIND OF INTERFERENCE 186 00:05:42,957 --> 00:05:44,297 IT’S A KIND OF INTERFERENCE SHE’S NEVER SEEN BEFORE. 187 00:05:44,297 --> 00:05:45,561 SHE’S NEVER SEEN BEFORE. >> IN THE PAST TWO ELECTIONS 188 00:05:45,561 --> 00:05:46,792 >> IN THE PAST TWO ELECTIONS THAT I OVERSAW AS LIEUTENANT 189 00:05:46,792 --> 00:05:48,627 THAT I OVERSAW AS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, THE THREATS WERE ALL 190 00:05:48,627 --> 00:05:49,363 GOVERNOR, THE THREATS WERE ALL EXTERNAL. 191 00:05:49,363 --> 00:05:50,825 EXTERNAL. NON-STATE ACTORS, CYBERSECURITY 192 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:52,957 NON-STATE ACTORS, CYBERSECURITY THREATS AND OTHER THINGS. 193 00:05:52,957 --> 00:05:54,000 THREATS AND OTHER THINGS. BUT NOW WE ALSO HAVE THREATS 194 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,033 BUT NOW WE ALSO HAVE THREATS COMING FROM WITHIN OUR OWN 195 00:05:55,033 --> 00:05:56,198 COMING FROM WITHIN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. 196 00:05:56,198 --> 00:05:57,429 GOVERNMENT. >> Reporter: YOUR FEDERAL 197 00:05:57,429 --> 00:05:58,891 >> Reporter: YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 198 00:05:58,891 --> 00:06:00,066 GOVERNMENT. >> THAT’S RIGHT. 199 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:01,198 >> THAT’S RIGHT. >> THAT IS A SAMPLE BALLOT. 200 00:06:01,198 --> 00:06:02,462 >> THAT IS A SAMPLE BALLOT. >> HENDERSON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 201 00:06:02,462 --> 00:06:03,528 >> HENDERSON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UTAH’S ELECTIONS -- 202 00:06:03,528 --> 00:06:04,594 UTAH’S ELECTIONS -- >> DOES THIS VERIFY CITIZENSHIP 203 00:06:04,594 --> 00:06:06,858 >> DOES THIS VERIFY CITIZENSHIP OR DO THE CLERKS DO THAT? 204 00:06:06,858 --> 00:06:07,957 OR DO THE CLERKS DO THAT? >> -- EVERYTHING FROM VOTER 205 00:06:07,957 --> 00:06:09,000 >> -- EVERYTHING FROM VOTER REGISTRATION TO COUNTING THE 206 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,396 REGISTRATION TO COUNTING THE BALLOTS ON ELECTION DAY. 207 00:06:11,396 --> 00:06:12,891 BALLOTS ON ELECTION DAY. KEEP IN MIND, HENDERSON IS A 208 00:06:12,891 --> 00:06:14,000 KEEP IN MIND, HENDERSON IS A REPUBLICAN IN A DEEPLY RED 209 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,429 REPUBLICAN IN A DEEPLY RED STATE. 210 00:06:16,429 --> 00:06:17,396 STATE. PRESIDENT TRUMP WON THE LAST 211 00:06:17,396 --> 00:06:18,561 PRESIDENT TRUMP WON THE LAST ELECTION HERE BY MORE THAN 20 212 00:06:18,561 --> 00:06:19,957 ELECTION HERE BY MORE THAN 20 POINTS. 213 00:06:19,957 --> 00:06:21,231 POINTS. >> Reporter: THIS IS YOUR 214 00:06:21,231 --> 00:06:22,429 >> Reporter: THIS IS YOUR OFFICE? 215 00:06:22,429 --> 00:06:25,891 OFFICE? >> THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENS. 216 00:06:25,891 --> 00:06:27,198 >> THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENS. >> LAST YEAR, THE JUSTICE 217 00:06:27,198 --> 00:06:28,165 >> LAST YEAR, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ZONED IN ON 218 00:06:28,165 --> 00:06:30,924 DEPARTMENT ZONED IN ON HENDERSON AND HER COUNTERPARTS 219 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:33,495 HENDERSON AND HER COUNTERPARTS IN STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, 220 00:06:33,495 --> 00:06:34,957 IN STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DEMANDING THEIR "STATEWIDE 221 00:06:34,957 --> 00:06:38,891 DEMANDING THEIR "STATEWIDE VOTER REGISTRATION LIST," WHICH 222 00:06:38,891 --> 00:06:40,396 VOTER REGISTRATION LIST," WHICH INCLUDES VOTERS’ CONFIDENTIAL 223 00:06:40,396 --> 00:06:42,561 INCLUDES VOTERS’ CONFIDENTIAL PERSONAL INFORMATION. 224 00:06:42,561 --> 00:06:43,759 PERSONAL INFORMATION. HENDERSON HAD NEVER SEEN 225 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:45,066 HENDERSON HAD NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. 226 00:06:45,066 --> 00:06:46,429 ANYTHING LIKE IT. SHE SAID NO. 227 00:06:46,429 --> 00:06:47,726 SHE SAID NO. >> THEY WANTED THINGS THAT WE 228 00:06:47,726 --> 00:06:48,858 >> THEY WANTED THINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY ARE REQUIRED BY LAW 229 00:06:48,858 --> 00:06:50,033 TYPICALLY ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO KEEP PRIVATE: SOCIAL 230 00:06:50,033 --> 00:06:51,165 TO KEEP PRIVATE: SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, FULL DATES OF 231 00:06:51,165 --> 00:06:52,561 SECURITY NUMBERS, FULL DATES OF BIRTH, DRIVER’S LICENSE 232 00:06:52,561 --> 00:06:55,528 BIRTH, DRIVER’S LICENSE NUMBERS. 233 00:06:55,528 --> 00:06:56,957 NUMBERS. >> Reporter: WHY? 234 00:06:56,957 --> 00:06:58,363 >> Reporter: WHY? WHY DID THEY WANT THAT? 235 00:06:58,363 --> 00:06:59,363 WHY DID THEY WANT THAT? >> WE JUST WEREN’T GIVEN VERY 236 00:06:59,363 --> 00:07:00,429 >> WE JUST WEREN’T GIVEN VERY GOOD ANSWERS AND WE WERE 237 00:07:00,429 --> 00:07:01,198 GOOD ANSWERS AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD 238 00:07:01,198 --> 00:07:08,561 CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THAT DATA. 239 00:07:08,561 --> 00:07:09,099 DO WITH THAT DATA. >> OFFICIALS IN 29 OTHER 240 00:07:09,099 --> 00:07:10,759 >> OFFICIALS IN 29 OTHER STATES, DEMOCRAT AND 241 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:13,198 STATES, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, FELT THE SAME. 242 00:07:13,198 --> 00:07:14,429 REPUBLICAN, FELT THE SAME. AND SO THEY ALSO REFUSED TO 243 00:07:14,429 --> 00:07:15,627 AND SO THEY ALSO REFUSED TO COMPLY. 244 00:07:15,627 --> 00:07:16,792 COMPLY. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS SUED 245 00:07:16,792 --> 00:07:18,066 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS SUED ALL OF THEM, SAYING IT NEEDS 246 00:07:18,066 --> 00:07:19,066 ALL OF THEM, SAYING IT NEEDS ACCESS TO VOTER ROLLS TO HELP 247 00:07:19,066 --> 00:07:20,363 ACCESS TO VOTER ROLLS TO HELP ENSURE THAT IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE 248 00:07:20,363 --> 00:07:26,660 ENSURE THAT IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE NOT ENTITLED TO VOTE DON’T. 249 00:07:26,660 --> 00:07:27,924 NOT ENTITLED TO VOTE DON’T. >> Reporter: THEY THINK THAT 250 00:07:27,924 --> 00:07:29,066 >> Reporter: THEY THINK THAT YOU’RE ALLOWING INELIGIBLE 251 00:07:29,066 --> 00:07:30,363 YOU’RE ALLOWING INELIGIBLE VOTERS TO GO AND VOTE, AND THEY 252 00:07:30,363 --> 00:07:31,561 VOTERS TO GO AND VOTE, AND THEY FEEL IT’S A FEDERAL OBLIGATION 253 00:07:31,561 --> 00:07:32,462 FEEL IT’S A FEDERAL OBLIGATION TO STOP THAT. 254 00:07:32,462 --> 00:07:36,033 TO STOP THAT. WHY IS THAT WRONG? 255 00:07:36,033 --> 00:07:37,429 WHY IS THAT WRONG? >> ACROSS THE BOARD, NOBODY I 256 00:07:37,429 --> 00:07:38,363 >> ACROSS THE BOARD, NOBODY I KNOW WANTS ANYONE WHO ISN’T 257 00:07:38,363 --> 00:07:43,792 KNOW WANTS ANYONE WHO ISN’T ELIGIBLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE. 258 00:07:43,792 --> 00:07:45,000 ELIGIBLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE. >> STATE AUDITS HAVE SHOWN THAT 259 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,033 >> STATE AUDITS HAVE SHOWN THAT NONCITIZEN VOTING IS EXTREMELY 260 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:51,660 NONCITIZEN VOTING IS EXTREMELY RARE, THOUGH IT DOES HAPPEN. 261 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:53,099 RARE, THOUGH IT DOES HAPPEN. IN UTAH, HENDERSON FOUND ONLY 262 00:07:53,099 --> 00:07:54,066 IN UTAH, HENDERSON FOUND ONLY 52 WHO WERE QUESTIONABLE OUT OF 263 00:07:54,066 --> 00:07:56,759 52 WHO WERE QUESTIONABLE OUT OF MORE THAN 2 MILLION VOTERS. 264 00:07:56,759 --> 00:07:59,033 MORE THAN 2 MILLION VOTERS. >> Reporter: WE DID A 265 00:07:59,033 --> 00:08:00,099 >> Reporter: WE DID A CALCULATION THAT THAT’S 2/1000 266 00:08:00,099 --> 00:08:01,825 CALCULATION THAT THAT’S 2/1000 OF 1%. 267 00:08:01,825 --> 00:08:04,066 OF 1%. >> YEAH. 268 00:08:04,066 --> 00:08:05,363 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: SO, HAS IT EVER 269 00:08:05,363 --> 00:08:07,429 >> Reporter: SO, HAS IT EVER BEEN AN ISSUE IN UTAH? 270 00:08:07,429 --> 00:08:10,759 BEEN AN ISSUE IN UTAH? >> NO. 271 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:11,924 >> NO. >> HENDERSON HAS BEEN NOTIFIED 272 00:08:11,924 --> 00:08:13,198 >> HENDERSON HAS BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IF SHE KNOWINGLY ALLOWS 273 00:08:13,198 --> 00:08:14,462 THAT IF SHE KNOWINGLY ALLOWS ANY NONCITIZENS TO VOTE IN 274 00:08:14,462 --> 00:08:16,825 ANY NONCITIZENS TO VOTE IN UTAH, SHE COULD BE PROSECUTED 275 00:08:16,825 --> 00:08:18,462 UTAH, SHE COULD BE PROSECUTED AND EVEN SENT TO PRISON. 276 00:08:18,462 --> 00:08:19,495 AND EVEN SENT TO PRISON. >> ELECTION SECURITY IS 277 00:08:19,495 --> 00:08:22,264 >> ELECTION SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY. 278 00:08:22,264 --> 00:08:23,561 NATIONAL SECURITY. >> IN JULY, SECRETARY OF 279 00:08:23,561 --> 00:08:24,594 >> IN JULY, SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY MARKWAYNE 280 00:08:24,594 --> 00:08:28,198 HOMELAND SECURITY MARKWAYNE MULLIN SPELLED IT OUT. 281 00:08:28,198 --> 00:08:29,264 MULLIN SPELLED IT OUT. >> THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN ALSO 282 00:08:29,264 --> 00:08:30,297 >> THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN ALSO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY FINES, 283 00:08:30,297 --> 00:08:32,660 BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY FINES, BY PENALTIES, AND, EVEN 284 00:08:32,660 --> 00:08:35,561 BY PENALTIES, AND, EVEN DEPENDING ON HOW FAR IT GOES, 285 00:08:35,561 --> 00:08:37,693 DEPENDING ON HOW FAR IT GOES, PRISON TIME. 286 00:08:37,693 --> 00:08:38,660 PRISON TIME. >> ELECTION OFFICIALS IN 287 00:08:38,660 --> 00:08:39,726 >> ELECTION OFFICIALS IN CALIFORNIA HAVE BEEN PUT ON 288 00:08:39,726 --> 00:08:43,264 CALIFORNIA HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE, TOO. 289 00:08:43,264 --> 00:08:44,627 NOTICE, TOO. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS 290 00:08:44,627 --> 00:08:45,957 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS THREATENED TO PROSECUTE THEM 291 00:08:45,957 --> 00:08:49,033 THREATENED TO PROSECUTE THEM FOR ESSENTIALLY THE SAME CRIME. 292 00:08:49,033 --> 00:08:50,396 FOR ESSENTIALLY THE SAME CRIME. AND PRESIDENT TRUMP PUT OUT A 293 00:08:50,396 --> 00:08:51,825 AND PRESIDENT TRUMP PUT OUT A SOCIAL MEDIA POST FRIDAY ABOUT 294 00:08:51,825 --> 00:08:53,693 SOCIAL MEDIA POST FRIDAY ABOUT CALIFORNIA, "THEY WILL ALL GO 295 00:08:53,693 --> 00:08:54,726 CALIFORNIA, "THEY WILL ALL GO TO JAIL FOR A LONG PERIOD OF 296 00:08:54,726 --> 00:08:55,759 TO JAIL FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME!!!" 297 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:56,957 TIME!!!" >> Reporter: YOU COULD GO TO 298 00:08:56,957 --> 00:08:58,099 >> Reporter: YOU COULD GO TO PRISON. 299 00:08:58,099 --> 00:08:59,165 PRISON. >> WE’RE NOT GOING TO PRISON. 300 00:08:59,165 --> 00:09:00,231 >> WE’RE NOT GOING TO PRISON. NO. 301 00:09:00,231 --> 00:09:01,363 NO. IT’S SILLY. 302 00:09:01,363 --> 00:09:02,429 IT’S SILLY. >> Reporter: YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY 303 00:09:02,429 --> 00:09:03,891 >> Reporter: YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE? 304 00:09:03,891 --> 00:09:07,297 SURE? >> WELL. 305 00:09:07,297 --> 00:09:08,363 >> WELL. >> SHE’S RIGHT TO SAY "WELL." 306 00:09:08,363 --> 00:09:09,660 >> SHE’S RIGHT TO SAY "WELL." THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TOLD 307 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:10,924 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TOLD HENDERSON LAST MONTH SHE IS 308 00:09:10,924 --> 00:09:11,957 HENDERSON LAST MONTH SHE IS OFFICIALLY "UNDER 309 00:09:11,957 --> 00:09:14,099 OFFICIALLY "UNDER INVESTIGATION." 310 00:09:14,099 --> 00:09:15,231 INVESTIGATION." >> Reporter: YOU ARE TOE-TO-TOE 311 00:09:15,231 --> 00:09:16,363 >> Reporter: YOU ARE TOE-TO-TOE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE 312 00:09:16,363 --> 00:09:17,693 WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. 313 00:09:17,693 --> 00:09:18,759 UNITED STATES. IT’S A BIG THING THAT YOU’RE 314 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:22,825 IT’S A BIG THING THAT YOU’RE DOING. 315 00:09:22,825 --> 00:09:24,264 DOING. >> I’M JUST DOING MY JOB. 316 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:25,396 >> I’M JUST DOING MY JOB. >> Reporter: STANDING UP TO THE 317 00:09:25,396 --> 00:09:26,231 >> Reporter: STANDING UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT’S 318 00:09:26,231 --> 00:09:27,033 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT’S THREATENING YOU WITH JAIL TIME, 319 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:31,594 THREATENING YOU WITH JAIL TIME, IT’S BOLD AT THE VERY LEAST. 320 00:09:31,594 --> 00:09:32,858 IT’S BOLD AT THE VERY LEAST. >> I HAVE TO -- I HAVE TO TELL 321 00:09:32,858 --> 00:09:33,957 >> I HAVE TO -- I HAVE TO TELL MYSELF IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT 322 00:09:33,957 --> 00:09:36,660 MYSELF IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE, IF -- AS 323 00:09:36,660 --> 00:09:37,528 THE CONSEQUENCES ARE, IF -- AS LONG AS I FEEL LIKE I’M DOING 324 00:09:37,528 --> 00:09:38,462 LONG AS I FEEL LIKE I’M DOING WHAT’S RIGHT. 325 00:09:38,462 --> 00:09:39,660 WHAT’S RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT 326 00:09:39,660 --> 00:09:42,000 I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING FOR ME TO DO, HOLDING 327 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,891 THING FOR ME TO DO, HOLDING THESE GUARD RAILS, HOLDING THE 328 00:09:42,891 --> 00:09:47,231 THESE GUARD RAILS, HOLDING THE LINE. 329 00:09:47,231 --> 00:09:50,231 LINE. SOMEONE HAS TO. 330 00:09:50,231 --> 00:09:51,759 SOMEONE HAS TO. >> OTHER REPUBLICANS, LIKE 331 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:52,693 >> OTHER REPUBLICANS, LIKE GOVERNOR MARK GORDON OF 332 00:09:52,693 --> 00:09:54,165 GOVERNOR MARK GORDON OF WYOMING, ALSO PUSHED BACK WHEN 333 00:09:54,165 --> 00:09:55,066 WYOMING, ALSO PUSHED BACK WHEN ELECTION MONITORS FROM THE 334 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:56,363 ELECTION MONITORS FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN AUGUST 335 00:09:56,363 --> 00:09:57,198 JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN AUGUST DEMANDED ACCESS TO HIS VOTING 336 00:09:57,198 --> 00:10:01,066 DEMANDED ACCESS TO HIS VOTING MACHINES. 337 00:10:01,066 --> 00:10:01,858 MACHINES. >> I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT 338 00:10:01,858 --> 00:10:02,792 >> I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMING 339 00:10:02,792 --> 00:10:03,825 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND TAKING OUR GUNS. 340 00:10:03,825 --> 00:10:04,792 IN AND TAKING OUR GUNS. I DON’T LIKE THAT. 341 00:10:04,792 --> 00:10:05,726 I DON’T LIKE THAT. AND I DON’T LIKE THE FEDERAL 342 00:10:05,726 --> 00:10:06,627 AND I DON’T LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND TAKING 343 00:10:06,627 --> 00:10:10,462 GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND TAKING OUR VOTES, EITHER. 344 00:10:10,462 --> 00:10:11,462 OUR VOTES, EITHER. >> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT 345 00:10:11,462 --> 00:10:14,363 >> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD GET INVOLVED. 346 00:10:14,363 --> 00:10:15,330 SHOULD GET INVOLVED. >> THINGS ESCALATED WHEN 347 00:10:15,330 --> 00:10:16,198 >> THINGS ESCALATED WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP DEFIED HISTORY 348 00:10:16,198 --> 00:10:17,330 PRESIDENT TRUMP DEFIED HISTORY AND THE CONSTITUTION WITH A 349 00:10:17,330 --> 00:10:20,429 AND THE CONSTITUTION WITH A SHOCKING STATEMENT ON A 350 00:10:20,429 --> 00:10:22,825 SHOCKING STATEMENT ON A PODCAST. 351 00:10:22,825 --> 00:10:23,924 PODCAST. >> THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD SAY, 352 00:10:23,924 --> 00:10:25,033 >> THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD SAY, "WE WANNA TAKE OVER. 353 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:26,066 "WE WANNA TAKE OVER. WE SHOULD TAKE OVER THE 354 00:10:26,066 --> 00:10:27,198 WE SHOULD TAKE OVER THE VOTING." 355 00:10:27,198 --> 00:10:28,264 VOTING." THE VOTING IN AT LEAST MANY, 15 356 00:10:28,264 --> 00:10:29,264 THE VOTING IN AT LEAST MANY, 15 PLACES. 357 00:10:29,264 --> 00:10:30,198 PLACES. THE REPUBLICANS OUGHT TO 358 00:10:30,198 --> 00:10:32,891 THE REPUBLICANS OUGHT TO NATIONALIZE THE VOTING. 359 00:10:32,891 --> 00:10:34,528 NATIONALIZE THE VOTING. >> IN AMERICA, ELECTIONS ARE 360 00:10:34,528 --> 00:10:36,792 >> IN AMERICA, ELECTIONS ARE LOCAL. 361 00:10:36,792 --> 00:10:37,726 LOCAL. THEY’RE RUN BY TOWNS AND 362 00:10:37,726 --> 00:10:38,957 THEY’RE RUN BY TOWNS AND COUNTIES AND STATES. 363 00:10:38,957 --> 00:10:39,924 COUNTIES AND STATES. IT’S ALL IN ARTICLE ONE OF THE 364 00:10:39,924 --> 00:10:42,957 IT’S ALL IN ARTICLE ONE OF THE CONSTITUTION. 365 00:10:42,957 --> 00:10:44,132 CONSTITUTION. CONGRESS MAKES LAWS REGULATING 366 00:10:44,132 --> 00:10:45,396 CONGRESS MAKES LAWS REGULATING ELECTIONS. 367 00:10:45,396 --> 00:10:46,528 ELECTIONS. >> THIS COUNTRY IS SO SICK 368 00:10:46,528 --> 00:10:47,693 >> THIS COUNTRY IS SO SICK BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION, THE 369 00:10:47,693 --> 00:10:49,726 BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION, THE FAKE ELECTIONS. 370 00:10:49,726 --> 00:10:50,858 FAKE ELECTIONS. >> BUT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T 371 00:10:50,858 --> 00:10:52,363 >> BUT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T HAVE A ROLE IN RUNNING THEM. 372 00:10:52,363 --> 00:10:53,561 HAVE A ROLE IN RUNNING THEM. THAT HASN’T STOPPED MR. TRUMP 373 00:10:53,561 --> 00:10:54,825 THAT HASN’T STOPPED MR. TRUMP FROM SIGNING TWO EXECUTIVE 374 00:10:54,825 --> 00:10:55,759 FROM SIGNING TWO EXECUTIVE ORDERS TRYING TO CREATE NEW 375 00:10:55,759 --> 00:10:57,627 ORDERS TRYING TO CREATE NEW FEDERAL VOTING RULES. 376 00:10:57,627 --> 00:10:58,891 FEDERAL VOTING RULES. >> AND IT’S AN HONOR TO SIGN 377 00:10:58,891 --> 00:11:01,264 >> AND IT’S AN HONOR TO SIGN THIS ONE, TO SIGN ALL OF THEM, 378 00:11:01,264 --> 00:11:02,264 THIS ONE, TO SIGN ALL OF THEM, BUT TO SIGN THIS ONE IS A GREAT 379 00:11:02,264 --> 00:11:06,462 BUT TO SIGN THIS ONE IS A GREAT HONOR. 380 00:11:06,462 --> 00:11:07,693 HONOR. >> NONCITIZENS CANNOT VOTE IN 381 00:11:07,693 --> 00:11:09,099 >> NONCITIZENS CANNOT VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS, SO THE 382 00:11:09,099 --> 00:11:10,297 FEDERAL ELECTIONS, SO THE QUESTION IS SIMPLY HOW MANY OF 383 00:11:10,297 --> 00:11:13,264 QUESTION IS SIMPLY HOW MANY OF THEM THERE ARE. 384 00:11:13,264 --> 00:11:14,726 THEM THERE ARE. >> HARMEET DHILLON, THE HEAD OF 385 00:11:14,726 --> 00:11:16,099 >> HARMEET DHILLON, THE HEAD OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION OF 386 00:11:16,099 --> 00:11:18,231 THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HAS 387 00:11:18,231 --> 00:11:19,726 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HAS SPEARHEADED THE GOVERNMENT’S 388 00:11:19,726 --> 00:11:22,066 SPEARHEADED THE GOVERNMENT’S VOTER ROLL INITIATIVE. 389 00:11:22,066 --> 00:11:23,231 VOTER ROLL INITIATIVE. SHE SPOKE TO US FROM 390 00:11:23,231 --> 00:11:24,858 SHE SPOKE TO US FROM CALIFORNIA. 391 00:11:24,858 --> 00:11:26,132 CALIFORNIA. >> Reporter: THERE ARE PEOPLE 392 00:11:26,132 --> 00:11:26,957 >> Reporter: THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL THAT THE POINT IS TO 393 00:11:26,957 --> 00:11:27,825 WHO FEEL THAT THE POINT IS TO SOW DISTRUST ABOUT THE WHOLE 394 00:11:27,825 --> 00:11:29,825 SOW DISTRUST ABOUT THE WHOLE ELECTION SYSTEM. 395 00:11:29,825 --> 00:11:31,000 ELECTION SYSTEM. THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO 396 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,099 THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE NONCITIZENS WHO END UP 397 00:11:32,099 --> 00:11:33,429 ARE NONCITIZENS WHO END UP VOTING. 398 00:11:33,429 --> 00:11:35,759 VOTING. VERY, VERY FEW. 399 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:36,759 VERY, VERY FEW. AND SO THEREFORE WHAT’S THE 400 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:38,528 AND SO THEREFORE WHAT’S THE PURPOSE? 401 00:11:38,528 --> 00:11:39,561 PURPOSE? >> THE POINT IS ACTUALLY THE 402 00:11:39,561 --> 00:11:40,627 >> THE POINT IS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WERE 403 00:11:40,627 --> 00:11:41,693 OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. 404 00:11:41,693 --> 00:11:42,726 SAYING. IT’S NOT TO SOW DISTRUST. 405 00:11:42,726 --> 00:11:45,924 IT’S NOT TO SOW DISTRUST. THE DISTRUST IS THERE. 406 00:11:45,924 --> 00:11:46,924 THE DISTRUST IS THERE. AND SO ALL OF THESE KINDS OF 407 00:11:46,924 --> 00:11:48,132 AND SO ALL OF THESE KINDS OF CRIMES ARE BEING PROSECUTED NOW 408 00:11:48,132 --> 00:11:48,957 CRIMES ARE BEING PROSECUTED NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME REALLY IN 409 00:11:48,957 --> 00:11:49,891 FOR THE FIRST TIME REALLY IN VOLUME. 410 00:11:49,891 --> 00:11:51,198 VOLUME. AND LOOK, EVEN THE BIDEN 411 00:11:51,198 --> 00:11:52,264 AND LOOK, EVEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PROSECUTED 13 412 00:11:52,264 --> 00:11:54,165 ADMINISTRATION PROSECUTED 13 PEOPLE FOR NONCITIZEN VOTING. 413 00:11:54,165 --> 00:11:55,099 PEOPLE FOR NONCITIZEN VOTING. >> Reporter: 13 PEOPLE. 414 00:11:55,099 --> 00:11:59,759 >> Reporter: 13 PEOPLE. I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE TINY. 415 00:11:59,759 --> 00:12:01,330 I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE TINY. >> SO LESLEY, WE’VE BEEN IN 416 00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:03,363 >> SO LESLEY, WE’VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS. 417 00:12:03,363 --> 00:12:04,495 OFFICE FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS. WE’VE HAD INVESTIGATIONS 418 00:12:04,495 --> 00:12:05,594 WE’VE HAD INVESTIGATIONS ONGOING FOR OVER A YEAR, AND IT 419 00:12:05,594 --> 00:12:06,594 ONGOING FOR OVER A YEAR, AND IT TAKES TIME. 420 00:12:06,594 --> 00:12:07,594 TAKES TIME. THERE ARE LITERALLY THOUSANDS 421 00:12:07,594 --> 00:12:08,495 THERE ARE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF THEM OUT THERE THAT WE ARE 422 00:12:08,495 --> 00:12:10,825 OF THEM OUT THERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. 423 00:12:10,825 --> 00:12:12,099 LOOKING AT. >> THE PILE UP OF 424 00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:13,330 >> THE PILE UP OF INVESTIGATIONS, CHARGES OF 425 00:12:13,330 --> 00:12:14,165 INVESTIGATIONS, CHARGES OF VOTING HANKY-PANKY HAVE CAUSED 426 00:12:14,165 --> 00:12:15,000 VOTING HANKY-PANKY HAVE CAUSED VOTERS TO LOSE FAITH IN OUR 427 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,825 VOTERS TO LOSE FAITH IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM. 428 00:12:19,825 --> 00:12:21,066 ELECTION SYSTEM. >> THEY TRY TO RIG ELECTIONS! 429 00:12:21,066 --> 00:12:22,000 >> THEY TRY TO RIG ELECTIONS! >> DEMOCRATS HAVE CAST DOUBT ON 430 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,957 >> DEMOCRATS HAVE CAST DOUBT ON OUR ELECTIONS, TOO. 431 00:12:23,957 --> 00:12:25,165 OUR ELECTIONS, TOO. >> WE WILL NOT LET THEIR SCHEME 432 00:12:25,165 --> 00:12:26,000 >> WE WILL NOT LET THEIR SCHEME TO RIG THE MIDTERM ELECTION AND 433 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,330 TO RIG THE MIDTERM ELECTION AND BEYOND BE SUCCESSFUL. 434 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:28,165 BEYOND BE SUCCESSFUL. >> BUT IT’S A QUESTION OF 435 00:12:28,165 --> 00:12:29,264 >> BUT IT’S A QUESTION OF DEGREE. 436 00:12:29,264 --> 00:12:30,165 DEGREE. >> THE 2020 ELECTION WAS 437 00:12:30,165 --> 00:12:32,660 >> THE 2020 ELECTION WAS RIGGED. 438 00:12:32,660 --> 00:12:33,594 RIGGED. >> IN THE 21 MONTHS OF 439 00:12:33,594 --> 00:12:34,825 >> IN THE 21 MONTHS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SECOND TERM 440 00:12:34,825 --> 00:12:35,924 PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SECOND TERM -- 441 00:12:35,924 --> 00:12:36,957 -- >> THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED. 442 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:38,495 >> THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED. >> -- HE HAS SAID, IN SO MANY 443 00:12:38,495 --> 00:12:39,627 >> -- HE HAS SAID, IN SO MANY WORDS, THE VOTE CAN’T BE 444 00:12:39,627 --> 00:12:42,198 WORDS, THE VOTE CAN’T BE TRUSTED MORE THAN 150 TIMES. 445 00:12:42,198 --> 00:12:43,099 TRUSTED MORE THAN 150 TIMES. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT 446 00:12:43,099 --> 00:12:46,264 >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND! 447 00:12:46,264 --> 00:12:47,132 HAND! >> THE PRESIDENT IS ONLY 448 00:12:47,132 --> 00:12:52,198 >> THE PRESIDENT IS ONLY TURNING UP THE VOLUME. 449 00:12:52,198 --> 00:12:53,528 TURNING UP THE VOLUME. LISTEN TO HIM AT THE REPUBLICAN 450 00:12:53,528 --> 00:12:54,792 LISTEN TO HIM AT THE REPUBLICAN MIDTERM CONVENTION LAST MONTH 451 00:12:54,792 --> 00:12:56,000 MIDTERM CONVENTION LAST MONTH ASKING HIS SUPPORTERS TO MAKE A 452 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,627 ASKING HIS SUPPORTERS TO MAKE A PROMISE. 453 00:12:57,627 --> 00:12:58,825 PROMISE. >> THAT I WILL GO OUT WITH MY 454 00:12:58,825 --> 00:13:00,759 >> THAT I WILL GO OUT WITH MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS. 455 00:13:00,759 --> 00:13:01,891 FAMILY, MY FRIENDS. I’LL DO IT ANY WAY. 456 00:13:01,891 --> 00:13:02,792 I’LL DO IT ANY WAY. I DON’T CARE IF I’M REGISTERED 457 00:13:02,792 --> 00:13:04,000 I DON’T CARE IF I’M REGISTERED OR NOT. 458 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,759 OR NOT. I’M GOING TO TRY AND CHEAT LIKE 459 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:09,561 I’M GOING TO TRY AND CHEAT LIKE HELL LIKE THEY DO. 460 00:13:09,561 --> 00:13:10,594 HELL LIKE THEY DO. >> Reporter: ONE ARGUMENT IS 461 00:13:10,594 --> 00:13:11,660 >> Reporter: ONE ARGUMENT IS THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE 462 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:12,627 THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES KEEPS SAYING THAT 463 00:13:12,627 --> 00:13:14,396 UNITED STATES KEEPS SAYING THAT THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED, PEOPLE 464 00:13:14,396 --> 00:13:15,099 THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED, PEOPLE LOSE CONFIDENCE. 465 00:13:15,099 --> 00:13:15,759 LOSE CONFIDENCE. YOU DON’T THINK IT’S RIGGED, DO 466 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:20,231 YOU DON’T THINK IT’S RIGGED, DO YOU? 467 00:13:20,231 --> 00:13:21,396 YOU? >> IN TERMS OF RIGGED, I 468 00:13:21,396 --> 00:13:22,561 >> IN TERMS OF RIGGED, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE 469 00:13:22,561 --> 00:13:23,660 DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE WERE IRREGULARITIES IN PRIOR 470 00:13:23,660 --> 00:13:24,924 WERE IRREGULARITIES IN PRIOR ELECTIONS. 471 00:13:24,924 --> 00:13:26,000 ELECTIONS. BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE 472 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,198 BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE SENSITIVE TO IT NOW. 473 00:13:27,198 --> 00:13:28,297 SENSITIVE TO IT NOW. >> Reporter: IS THE 474 00:13:28,297 --> 00:13:29,495 >> Reporter: IS THE ADMINISTRATION PLANNING TO SEND 475 00:13:29,495 --> 00:13:29,726 ADMINISTRATION PLANNING TO SEND I.C.E. 476 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:30,759 I.C.E. AGENTS OUT TO THE POLLING 477 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:32,099 AGENTS OUT TO THE POLLING PLACES? 478 00:13:32,099 --> 00:13:36,429 PLACES? >> THERE IS NO PLAN TO DO THAT. 479 00:13:36,429 --> 00:13:37,561 >> THERE IS NO PLAN TO DO THAT. >> DHILLON DISMISSED THAT 480 00:13:37,561 --> 00:13:38,726 >> DHILLON DISMISSED THAT CONCERN AND CALLED THE NOTION 481 00:13:38,726 --> 00:13:40,033 CONCERN AND CALLED THE NOTION THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT 482 00:13:40,033 --> 00:13:41,132 THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT CHALLENGE THE RESULTS OF THE 483 00:13:41,132 --> 00:13:46,000 CHALLENGE THE RESULTS OF THE MIDTERMS "PARANOIA." 484 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,363 MIDTERMS "PARANOIA." >> Reporter: SO WOULD YOU 485 00:13:47,363 --> 00:13:48,825 >> Reporter: SO WOULD YOU CONSIDER A NONCITIZEN VOTING AN 486 00:13:48,825 --> 00:13:49,924 CONSIDER A NONCITIZEN VOTING AN IRREGULARITY THAT WOULD LEAD TO 487 00:13:49,924 --> 00:13:52,429 IRREGULARITY THAT WOULD LEAD TO A CHALLENGE OF THE VOTE? 488 00:13:52,429 --> 00:13:53,627 A CHALLENGE OF THE VOTE? >> I THINK THAT WOULD LEAD TO 489 00:13:53,627 --> 00:13:55,066 >> I THINK THAT WOULD LEAD TO THE PERSON’S VOTE BEING 490 00:13:55,066 --> 00:13:56,792 THE PERSON’S VOTE BEING CHALLENGED, BUT NOT THE ENTIRE 491 00:13:56,792 --> 00:14:00,066 CHALLENGED, BUT NOT THE ENTIRE ELECTION. 492 00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:01,132 ELECTION. >> Reporter: WHAT I’M HEARING 493 00:14:01,132 --> 00:14:02,297 >> Reporter: WHAT I’M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT YOU THINK IT’S 494 00:14:02,297 --> 00:14:03,099 YOU SAY IS THAT YOU THINK IT’S VERY UNLIKELY THAT A VOTE, A 495 00:14:03,099 --> 00:14:05,165 VERY UNLIKELY THAT A VOTE, A STATE VOTE, WILL BE CHALLENGED. 496 00:14:05,165 --> 00:14:05,924 STATE VOTE, WILL BE CHALLENGED. BUT PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT THAT. 497 00:14:05,924 --> 00:14:09,363 BUT PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT THAT. CAN YOU RULE IT OUT? 498 00:14:09,363 --> 00:14:10,858 CAN YOU RULE IT OUT? >> WELL, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS 499 00:14:10,858 --> 00:14:15,264 >> WELL, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I CAN TELL 500 00:14:15,264 --> 00:14:16,264 GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ABSENT SOME SHOCKING 501 00:14:16,264 --> 00:14:18,264 YOU THAT ABSENT SOME SHOCKING CONTINGENCY THAT IS UNEXPECTED, 502 00:14:18,264 --> 00:14:19,033 CONTINGENCY THAT IS UNEXPECTED, THERE SHOULD BE NO INTERRUPTION 503 00:14:19,033 --> 00:14:19,924 THERE SHOULD BE NO INTERRUPTION IN THE USUAL COURSE OF COUNTING 504 00:14:19,924 --> 00:14:20,891 IN THE USUAL COURSE OF COUNTING AND CERTIFYING THE RESULTS IN 505 00:14:20,891 --> 00:14:23,627 AND CERTIFYING THE RESULTS IN THE STATES. 506 00:14:23,627 --> 00:14:24,627 THE STATES. >> WITH JUST 16 DAYS ’TILL THE 507 00:14:24,627 --> 00:14:28,759 >> WITH JUST 16 DAYS ’TILL THE ELECTION, POLLS ARE SHOWING 508 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:29,693 ELECTION, POLLS ARE SHOWING THAT ONLY HALF OF AMERICANS 509 00:14:29,693 --> 00:14:30,792 THAT ONLY HALF OF AMERICANS EXPECT THE MIDTERMS TO BE "FREE 510 00:14:30,792 --> 00:14:36,495 EXPECT THE MIDTERMS TO BE "FREE AND FAIR." 511 00:14:36,495 --> 00:14:37,759 AND FAIR." >> Reporter: WE HAVE SWING 512 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:39,198 >> Reporter: WE HAVE SWING STATES WHERE ELECTIONS ARE 513 00:14:39,198 --> 00:14:40,297 STATES WHERE ELECTIONS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS REALLY RAZOR-THIN 514 00:14:40,297 --> 00:14:42,264 ALMOST ALWAYS REALLY RAZOR-THIN CLOSE. 515 00:14:42,264 --> 00:14:43,363 CLOSE. WHAT ABOUT WISCONSIN? 516 00:14:43,363 --> 00:14:44,660 WHAT ABOUT WISCONSIN? WHAT ABOUT GEORGIA? 517 00:14:44,660 --> 00:14:45,528 WHAT ABOUT GEORGIA? CAN THEY HAVE HONEST, FAIR 518 00:14:45,528 --> 00:14:48,198 CAN THEY HAVE HONEST, FAIR ELECTIONS? 519 00:14:48,198 --> 00:14:50,363 ELECTIONS? >> THEY CAN HAVE HONEST AND 520 00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:51,528 >> THEY CAN HAVE HONEST AND FAIR ELECTIONS. 521 00:14:51,528 --> 00:14:52,528 FAIR ELECTIONS. WHETHER OR NOT THE LOSING 522 00:14:52,528 --> 00:14:53,660 WHETHER OR NOT THE LOSING CANDIDATES ACCEPT THOSE RESULTS 523 00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:54,792 CANDIDATES ACCEPT THOSE RESULTS IS THE QUESTION. 524 00:14:54,792 --> 00:14:55,825 IS THE QUESTION. AND WE ARE SEEING A TREND OF 525 00:14:55,825 --> 00:14:56,957 AND WE ARE SEEING A TREND OF CANDIDATES WHO LOSE RACES NOW 526 00:14:56,957 --> 00:14:58,132 CANDIDATES WHO LOSE RACES NOW REFUSING TO CONCEDE, SAYING IT 527 00:14:58,132 --> 00:14:59,330 REFUSING TO CONCEDE, SAYING IT WAS RIGGED, SAYING IT WASN’T 528 00:14:59,330 --> 00:15:02,660 WAS RIGGED, SAYING IT WASN’T FAIR, EVEN WHEN IT ISN’T CLOSE. 529 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:03,594 FAIR, EVEN WHEN IT ISN’T CLOSE. CANDIDATES WHO LOSE CAN DO SO 530 00:15:03,594 --> 00:15:05,264 CANDIDATES WHO LOSE CAN DO SO MUCH GOOD BY GRACIOUSLY 531 00:15:05,264 --> 00:15:06,429 MUCH GOOD BY GRACIOUSLY CONCEDING. 532 00:15:06,429 --> 00:15:07,528 CONCEDING. THAT WILL INSTILL CONFIDENCE IN 533 00:15:07,528 --> 00:15:09,066 THAT WILL INSTILL CONFIDENCE IN THE PUBLIC. 534 00:15:18,825 --> 00:15:18,957 THE PUBLIC. [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 535 00:15:18,957 --> 00:15:20,396 >>> YOU’VE NO DOUBT NOTICED 536 00:15:20,396 --> 00:15:21,957 >>> YOU’VE NO DOUBT NOTICED THAT SINCE THE WAR WITH IRAN 537 00:15:21,957 --> 00:15:23,660 THAT SINCE THE WAR WITH IRAN BROKE OUT, GAS PRICES HAVE 538 00:15:23,660 --> 00:15:25,363 BROKE OUT, GAS PRICES HAVE SPIKED, UP MORE THAN 50% SINCE 539 00:15:25,363 --> 00:15:28,528 SPIKED, UP MORE THAN 50% SINCE JANUARY. 540 00:15:28,528 --> 00:15:30,132 JANUARY. BUT THERE’S ANOTHER, LESS WELL- 541 00:15:30,132 --> 00:15:31,495 BUT THERE’S ANOTHER, LESS WELL- KNOWN NATURAL RESOURCE ALSO 542 00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:33,396 KNOWN NATURAL RESOURCE ALSO IMPACTED BY THE CONFLICT: 543 00:15:33,396 --> 00:15:34,594 IMPACTED BY THE CONFLICT: HELIUM. 544 00:15:34,594 --> 00:15:37,066 HELIUM. THE WORLD, AND THE WAR, DON’T 545 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:38,165 THE WORLD, AND THE WAR, DON’T FUNCTION WITHOUT IT. 546 00:15:38,165 --> 00:15:39,363 FUNCTION WITHOUT IT. NO HELIUM? 547 00:15:39,363 --> 00:15:41,627 NO HELIUM? NO NEW CELL PHONES, LAPTOPS, 548 00:15:41,627 --> 00:15:45,198 NO NEW CELL PHONES, LAPTOPS, CARS, MRI MACHINES, MISSILES. 549 00:15:45,198 --> 00:15:46,462 CARS, MRI MACHINES, MISSILES. ALL REQUIRE THIS FINITE AND 550 00:15:46,462 --> 00:15:47,627 ALL REQUIRE THIS FINITE AND IRREPLACEABLE RESOURCE. 551 00:15:47,627 --> 00:15:48,726 IRREPLACEABLE RESOURCE. THE CLOSING OF THE STRAIT OF 552 00:15:48,726 --> 00:15:50,099 THE CLOSING OF THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IN FEBRUARY TRAPPED ONE- 553 00:15:50,099 --> 00:15:51,198 HORMUZ IN FEBRUARY TRAPPED ONE- THIRD OF THE GLOBAL HELIUM 554 00:15:51,198 --> 00:15:53,330 THIRD OF THE GLOBAL HELIUM SUPPLY. 555 00:15:53,330 --> 00:15:54,561 SUPPLY. THEN JUST WEEKS LATER, IRANIAN 556 00:15:54,561 --> 00:15:55,594 THEN JUST WEEKS LATER, IRANIAN STRIKES ON QATAR’S MAJOR GAS 557 00:15:55,594 --> 00:15:56,726 STRIKES ON QATAR’S MAJOR GAS FACILITY FURTHER RATTLED THE 558 00:15:56,726 --> 00:15:57,594 FACILITY FURTHER RATTLED THE SUPPLY CHAIN. 559 00:15:57,594 --> 00:15:58,561 SUPPLY CHAIN. WITH THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE 560 00:15:58,561 --> 00:16:01,825 WITH THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE UNKNOWN, AMERICAN INDUSTRY IS 561 00:16:01,825 --> 00:16:03,000 UNKNOWN, AMERICAN INDUSTRY IS LEFT DESPERATE FOR ANSWERS AS 562 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,231 LEFT DESPERATE FOR ANSWERS AS THE HELIUM CRISIS REMAINS UP IN 563 00:16:04,231 --> 00:16:10,660 THE HELIUM CRISIS REMAINS UP IN THE AIR. 564 00:16:10,660 --> 00:16:12,264 THE AIR. LAST MARCH AS A NEW WAR RAGED, 565 00:16:12,264 --> 00:16:13,495 LAST MARCH AS A NEW WAR RAGED, IRANIAN MISSILES AND DRONES HIT 566 00:16:13,495 --> 00:16:14,660 IRANIAN MISSILES AND DRONES HIT MILITARY TARGETS THROUGHOUT THE 567 00:16:14,660 --> 00:16:17,891 MILITARY TARGETS THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST, OIL TANKERS STUCK 568 00:16:17,891 --> 00:16:20,825 MIDDLE EAST, OIL TANKERS STUCK IN THE PERSIAN GULF, AND ENERGY 569 00:16:20,825 --> 00:16:24,165 IN THE PERSIAN GULF, AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF IT MEANT 570 00:16:24,165 --> 00:16:24,759 INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF IT MEANT TO DESTABILIZE THE GLOBAL 571 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:29,066 TO DESTABILIZE THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. 572 00:16:29,066 --> 00:16:33,462 ECONOMY. ONE OF THOSE HIGH-VALUE TARGETS 573 00:16:33,462 --> 00:16:35,693 ONE OF THOSE HIGH-VALUE TARGETS ATTACKED, RAS LAFFAN IN QATAR, 574 00:16:35,693 --> 00:16:36,891 ATTACKED, RAS LAFFAN IN QATAR, THE WORLD’S LARGEST FACILITY 575 00:16:36,891 --> 00:16:38,231 THE WORLD’S LARGEST FACILITY FOR NATURAL GAS AND ITS 576 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:40,495 FOR NATURAL GAS AND ITS BYPRODUCT, HELIUM. 577 00:16:40,495 --> 00:16:41,495 BYPRODUCT, HELIUM. 7100 MILES AWAY AT THE 578 00:16:41,495 --> 00:16:42,594 7100 MILES AWAY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, JOE 579 00:16:42,594 --> 00:16:43,759 UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, JOE SACHLEBEN WAS WATCHING CLOSELY 580 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:45,330 SACHLEBEN WAS WATCHING CLOSELY FROM HIS LAB. 581 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:46,726 FROM HIS LAB. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU HEARD THE 582 00:16:46,726 --> 00:16:48,033 >> Reporter: WHEN YOU HEARD THE NEWS THAT THERE WAS AN ATTACK 583 00:16:48,033 --> 00:16:49,363 NEWS THAT THERE WAS AN ATTACK ON THE FACILITY IN QATAR, WHERE 584 00:16:49,363 --> 00:16:50,198 ON THE FACILITY IN QATAR, WHERE DID YOUR THOUGHTS GO? 585 00:16:50,198 --> 00:16:51,264 DID YOUR THOUGHTS GO? >> I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WEREN’T 586 00:16:51,264 --> 00:16:52,264 >> I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WEREN’T HURT WAS FIRST. 587 00:16:52,264 --> 00:16:54,363 HURT WAS FIRST. AND THEN SECOND, IT’S LIKE, 588 00:16:54,363 --> 00:16:55,363 AND THEN SECOND, IT’S LIKE, THIS IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM. 589 00:16:55,363 --> 00:16:57,792 THIS IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM. I MEAN, I WON’T SAY THE WORDS I 590 00:16:57,792 --> 00:16:58,858 I MEAN, I WON’T SAY THE WORDS I WAS THINKING. 591 00:16:58,858 --> 00:17:03,099 WAS THINKING. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT’S LIKE, CRAP. 592 00:17:03,099 --> 00:17:04,396 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT’S LIKE, CRAP. WE’RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH 593 00:17:04,396 --> 00:17:05,462 WE’RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS AND I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO 594 00:17:05,462 --> 00:17:06,660 THIS AND I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET HELIUM. 595 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:07,891 GET HELIUM. >> HELIUM IS CRITICAL FOR THOSE 596 00:17:07,891 --> 00:17:09,132 >> HELIUM IS CRITICAL FOR THOSE LARGE CYLINDERS, NUCLEAR 597 00:17:09,132 --> 00:17:11,363 LARGE CYLINDERS, NUCLEAR MAGNETIC RESONANCE MACHINES, IN 598 00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:12,363 MAGNETIC RESONANCE MACHINES, IN SACHLEBEN’S LAB. 599 00:17:12,363 --> 00:17:13,528 SACHLEBEN’S LAB. THESE MACHINES ARE USED BY 600 00:17:13,528 --> 00:17:14,891 THESE MACHINES ARE USED BY STUDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR HIGHER- 601 00:17:14,891 --> 00:17:15,957 STUDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR HIGHER- STAKES RESEARCH TO DEVELOP 602 00:17:15,957 --> 00:17:17,759 STAKES RESEARCH TO DEVELOP BREAST CANCER DRUGS, 603 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:19,132 BREAST CANCER DRUGS, IMMUNOTHERAPIES, AND TREATMENTS 604 00:17:19,132 --> 00:17:21,165 IMMUNOTHERAPIES, AND TREATMENTS FOR ALZHEIMER’S. 605 00:17:21,165 --> 00:17:23,561 FOR ALZHEIMER’S. SUDDENLY, IT’S ALL IMPERILED, 606 00:17:23,561 --> 00:17:24,693 SUDDENLY, IT’S ALL IMPERILED, COLLATERAL DAMAGE FROM THE IRAN 607 00:17:24,693 --> 00:17:25,858 COLLATERAL DAMAGE FROM THE IRAN WAR. 608 00:17:25,858 --> 00:17:27,033 WAR. HELIUM IS THE COLDEST LIQUID ON 609 00:17:27,033 --> 00:17:29,165 HELIUM IS THE COLDEST LIQUID ON EARTH. 610 00:17:29,165 --> 00:17:30,462 EARTH. SO EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS, 611 00:17:30,462 --> 00:17:31,693 SO EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS, SACHLEBEN USES THIS LONG TUBE 612 00:17:31,693 --> 00:17:32,825 SACHLEBEN USES THIS LONG TUBE TO POUR 100 LITERS OF HELIUM ON 613 00:17:32,825 --> 00:17:34,693 TO POUR 100 LITERS OF HELIUM ON THESE MAGNETS TO STABILIZE THEM 614 00:17:34,693 --> 00:17:35,627 THESE MAGNETS TO STABILIZE THEM AT 452 DEGREES BELOW ZERO 615 00:17:35,627 --> 00:17:39,198 AT 452 DEGREES BELOW ZERO FARENHEIT. 616 00:17:39,198 --> 00:17:40,099 FARENHEIT. >> ONCE IT GETS TO A CRITICAL 617 00:17:40,099 --> 00:17:41,396 >> ONCE IT GETS TO A CRITICAL LEVEL, WE HAVE TO PUT HELIUM 618 00:17:41,396 --> 00:17:42,363 LEVEL, WE HAVE TO PUT HELIUM BACK IN THE MAGNET TO KEEP IT 619 00:17:42,363 --> 00:17:42,957 BACK IN THE MAGNET TO KEEP IT COLD. 620 00:17:42,957 --> 00:17:44,132 COLD. >> Reporter: RIGHT. 621 00:17:44,132 --> 00:17:45,462 >> Reporter: RIGHT. >> IF THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN, WE 622 00:17:45,462 --> 00:17:48,495 >> IF THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN, WE BREAK THE MAGNET. 623 00:17:48,495 --> 00:17:49,462 BREAK THE MAGNET. >> Reporter: YOU’VE GOT 624 00:17:49,462 --> 00:17:50,825 >> Reporter: YOU’VE GOT PROBLEMS IF THAT DOESN’T -- 625 00:17:50,825 --> 00:17:52,363 PROBLEMS IF THAT DOESN’T -- >> WE HAVE -- 626 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:54,495 >> WE HAVE -- >> Reporter: -- HAPPEN. 627 00:17:54,495 --> 00:17:56,132 >> Reporter: -- HAPPEN. >> -- HUGE PROBLEMS. 628 00:17:56,132 --> 00:17:56,924 >> -- HUGE PROBLEMS. >> Reporter: YOU’RE SAYING 629 00:17:56,924 --> 00:17:58,297 >> Reporter: YOU’RE SAYING THERE -- THERE’S NO WORKAROUND 630 00:17:58,297 --> 00:17:58,924 THERE -- THERE’S NO WORKAROUND HERE. 631 00:17:58,924 --> 00:18:00,462 HERE. THERE -- THERE’S NO OTHER 632 00:18:00,462 --> 00:18:01,594 THERE -- THERE’S NO OTHER SUBSTANCE YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE 633 00:18:01,594 --> 00:18:02,561 SUBSTANCE YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE IN? 634 00:18:02,561 --> 00:18:03,792 IN? >> NO. 635 00:18:03,792 --> 00:18:04,858 >> NO. NOTHING ELSE BOILS THAT LOW. 636 00:18:04,858 --> 00:18:06,165 NOTHING ELSE BOILS THAT LOW. >> SACHLEBEN’S LAB CONTRACTS 637 00:18:06,165 --> 00:18:07,297 >> SACHLEBEN’S LAB CONTRACTS WITH ONE SUPPLIER TO DELIVER 638 00:18:07,297 --> 00:18:08,330 WITH ONE SUPPLIER TO DELIVER THE HELIUM HE NEEDS EACH MONTH. 639 00:18:08,330 --> 00:18:09,429 THE HELIUM HE NEEDS EACH MONTH. FIRST U OF CHICAGO’S SUPPLIER 640 00:18:09,429 --> 00:18:10,363 FIRST U OF CHICAGO’S SUPPLIER PLACED SACHLEBEN AND HIS 641 00:18:10,363 --> 00:18:11,462 PLACED SACHLEBEN AND HIS COLLEAGUES ON WHAT’S CALLED 642 00:18:11,462 --> 00:18:12,660 COLLEAGUES ON WHAT’S CALLED "ALLOCATION," ESSENTIALLY 643 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:13,693 "ALLOCATION," ESSENTIALLY RATIONING. 644 00:18:13,693 --> 00:18:14,693 RATIONING. >> THEY BASICALLY HAVE SAID, 645 00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:16,165 >> THEY BASICALLY HAVE SAID, "WELL, WE’LL GIVE YOU 50% OF 646 00:18:16,165 --> 00:18:17,858 "WELL, WE’LL GIVE YOU 50% OF WHAT YOU USED LAST YEAR." 647 00:18:17,858 --> 00:18:18,891 WHAT YOU USED LAST YEAR." THAT DOESN’T HELP US. 648 00:18:18,891 --> 00:18:19,726 THAT DOESN’T HELP US. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS 649 00:18:19,726 --> 00:18:20,660 AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS DECIDE WHICH MACHINE ARE WE 650 00:18:20,660 --> 00:18:21,594 DECIDE WHICH MACHINE ARE WE GOING TO SACRIFICE AND WHICH 651 00:18:21,594 --> 00:18:22,495 GOING TO SACRIFICE AND WHICH ONE ARE WE GONNA TRY TO KEEP. 652 00:18:22,495 --> 00:18:23,528 ONE ARE WE GONNA TRY TO KEEP. >> Reporter: THAT’S WHERE WE 653 00:18:23,528 --> 00:18:24,627 >> Reporter: THAT’S WHERE WE ARE NOW? 654 00:18:24,627 --> 00:18:25,693 ARE NOW? >> THAT’S WHERE WE ARE NOW IF 655 00:18:25,693 --> 00:18:26,660 >> THAT’S WHERE WE ARE NOW IF WE CAN’T GET THE HELIUM. 656 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:27,891 WE CAN’T GET THE HELIUM. FORTUNATELY, WE FOUND ANOTHER 657 00:18:27,891 --> 00:18:28,792 FORTUNATELY, WE FOUND ANOTHER SUPPLIER THAT IS GIVING US 658 00:18:28,792 --> 00:18:29,726 SUPPLIER THAT IS GIVING US HELIUM ON A FAIRLY REGULAR 659 00:18:29,726 --> 00:18:30,594 HELIUM ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS. 660 00:18:30,594 --> 00:18:31,627 BASIS. BUT THEY CAN’T GUARANTEE IT. 661 00:18:31,627 --> 00:18:32,627 BUT THEY CAN’T GUARANTEE IT. SO WE NEVER KNOW IF THEY’RE 662 00:18:32,627 --> 00:18:36,099 SO WE NEVER KNOW IF THEY’RE GONNA SAY, "OH, THIS WEEK, WE 663 00:18:36,099 --> 00:18:37,396 GONNA SAY, "OH, THIS WEEK, WE DON’T HAVE ANY." 664 00:18:37,396 --> 00:18:38,759 DON’T HAVE ANY." >> THEN LAST MONTH, SACHLEBEN 665 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:39,825 >> THEN LAST MONTH, SACHLEBEN GOT A MESSAGE SAYING THAT 666 00:18:39,825 --> 00:18:43,627 GOT A MESSAGE SAYING THAT SUPPLIER WAS ABOUT TO RUN OUT. 667 00:18:43,627 --> 00:18:44,528 SUPPLIER WAS ABOUT TO RUN OUT. IT’S NOT JUST UNIVERSITY 668 00:18:44,528 --> 00:18:46,957 IT’S NOT JUST UNIVERSITY RESEARCH LABS. 669 00:18:46,957 --> 00:18:48,297 RESEARCH LABS. ONE-FIFTH OF THE WORLD’S HELIUM 670 00:18:48,297 --> 00:18:49,528 ONE-FIFTH OF THE WORLD’S HELIUM IS CONSUMED BY THE 671 00:18:49,528 --> 00:18:50,462 IS CONSUMED BY THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY ALONE, 672 00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:51,264 SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY ALONE, TO MAKE EVERY MODERN-DAY 673 00:18:51,264 --> 00:18:57,726 TO MAKE EVERY MODERN-DAY ELECTRONIC YOU MIGHT USE, FROM 674 00:18:57,726 --> 00:19:01,660 ELECTRONIC YOU MIGHT USE, FROM YOUR iPHONE TO YOUR PACEMAKER. 675 00:19:01,660 --> 00:19:02,957 YOUR iPHONE TO YOUR PACEMAKER. OUTSIDE MINNEAPOLIS, WE VISITED 676 00:19:02,957 --> 00:19:04,957 OUTSIDE MINNEAPOLIS, WE VISITED ONE OF THOSE CHIP MAKERS, POLAR 677 00:19:04,957 --> 00:19:06,033 ONE OF THOSE CHIP MAKERS, POLAR SEMICONDUCTORS. 678 00:19:06,033 --> 00:19:07,561 SEMICONDUCTORS. >> ALRIGHT, SO GO AHEAD AND PUT 679 00:19:07,561 --> 00:19:09,429 >> ALRIGHT, SO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON FIRST. 680 00:19:09,429 --> 00:19:10,495 THAT ON FIRST. >> WE SUITED UP ALONGSIDE SURYA 681 00:19:10,495 --> 00:19:12,000 >> WE SUITED UP ALONGSIDE SURYA IYER, POLAR’S PRESIDENT AND 682 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,330 IYER, POLAR’S PRESIDENT AND COO, TO GO INSIDE WHAT’S CALLED 683 00:19:13,330 --> 00:19:15,099 COO, TO GO INSIDE WHAT’S CALLED THE "FAB," THE ULTRA-STERILIZED 684 00:19:15,099 --> 00:19:16,561 THE "FAB," THE ULTRA-STERILIZED AREA WHERE THEY MAKE THE CHIPS. 685 00:19:16,561 --> 00:19:17,363 AREA WHERE THEY MAKE THE CHIPS. OUR BARRIERS TO ENTRY, SO TO 686 00:19:17,363 --> 00:19:23,396 OUR BARRIERS TO ENTRY, SO TO SPEAK, TWO MASKS, TWO BOOTIES, 687 00:19:23,396 --> 00:19:24,429 SPEAK, TWO MASKS, TWO BOOTIES, AND TWO PAIRS OF GLOVES. 688 00:19:24,429 --> 00:19:25,462 AND TWO PAIRS OF GLOVES. >> Reporter: YOU WONDER, HOW 689 00:19:25,462 --> 00:19:26,561 >> Reporter: YOU WONDER, HOW MANY PEOPLE GOING TO THE MALL 690 00:19:26,561 --> 00:19:27,825 MANY PEOPLE GOING TO THE MALL OF AMERICAS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT’S 691 00:19:27,825 --> 00:19:28,891 OF AMERICAS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT’S GOING ON A FEW HUNDRED YARDS 692 00:19:28,891 --> 00:19:29,693 GOING ON A FEW HUNDRED YARDS AWAY. 693 00:19:29,693 --> 00:19:30,891 AWAY. >> THAT’S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. 694 00:19:30,891 --> 00:19:32,264 >> THAT’S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. >> INSIDE, WORKERS IN ROUND-THE- 695 00:19:32,264 --> 00:19:34,066 >> INSIDE, WORKERS IN ROUND-THE- CLOCK SHIFTS MANUFACTURE 696 00:19:34,066 --> 00:19:35,132 CLOCK SHIFTS MANUFACTURE SEMICONDUCTORS FOR ENGINE 697 00:19:35,132 --> 00:19:36,462 SEMICONDUCTORS FOR ENGINE SYSTEMS IN CARS, THE U.S. 698 00:19:36,462 --> 00:19:37,858 SYSTEMS IN CARS, THE U.S. MILITARY, AND THOSE UBIQUITOUS 699 00:19:37,858 --> 00:19:38,891 MILITARY, AND THOSE UBIQUITOUS DATA CENTERS AROUND THE 700 00:19:38,891 --> 00:19:41,330 DATA CENTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. 701 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:43,264 COUNTRY. >> Reporter: HOW DOES HELIUM 702 00:19:43,264 --> 00:19:45,693 >> Reporter: HOW DOES HELIUM FIGURE INTO THIS? 703 00:19:45,693 --> 00:19:46,891 FIGURE INTO THIS? >> I WOULD SAY ALMOST 40%, 50% 704 00:19:46,891 --> 00:19:47,924 >> I WOULD SAY ALMOST 40%, 50% OF THE MACHINES IN THIS FACTORY 705 00:19:47,924 --> 00:19:49,066 OF THE MACHINES IN THIS FACTORY WOULD HAVE HELIUM IN SOME WAY 706 00:19:49,066 --> 00:19:51,099 WOULD HAVE HELIUM IN SOME WAY OR THE OTHER IN THE MACHINE. 707 00:19:51,099 --> 00:19:52,132 OR THE OTHER IN THE MACHINE. >> Reporter: SO IT’S NOT JUST 708 00:19:52,132 --> 00:19:53,264 >> Reporter: SO IT’S NOT JUST ONE STEP OF THE PROCESS. 709 00:19:53,264 --> 00:19:56,462 ONE STEP OF THE PROCESS. >> NO, NO, NO. 710 00:19:56,462 --> 00:19:57,759 >> NO, NO, NO. HUNDREDS OF STEPS IN THE 711 00:19:57,759 --> 00:19:59,561 HUNDREDS OF STEPS IN THE PROCESS INVOLVE HELIUM. 712 00:19:59,561 --> 00:20:00,693 PROCESS INVOLVE HELIUM. >> SUCH AS THIS MACHINE, WHERE 713 00:20:00,693 --> 00:20:02,264 >> SUCH AS THIS MACHINE, WHERE HELIUM KEEPS THE ENVIRONMENT 714 00:20:02,264 --> 00:20:03,297 HELIUM KEEPS THE ENVIRONMENT CLEAN AND STABLE TO AVOID 715 00:20:03,297 --> 00:20:04,396 CLEAN AND STABLE TO AVOID DEFECTS ON THE WAFERS. 716 00:20:04,396 --> 00:20:05,561 DEFECTS ON THE WAFERS. POLAR IS ABLE TO HEDGE ITS 717 00:20:05,561 --> 00:20:06,693 POLAR IS ABLE TO HEDGE ITS HELIUM RESERVES BY RELYING ON 718 00:20:06,693 --> 00:20:07,759 HELIUM RESERVES BY RELYING ON THREE SUPPLIERS. 719 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:09,891 THREE SUPPLIERS. STILL, THE COMPANY HAS FELT THE 720 00:20:09,891 --> 00:20:11,033 STILL, THE COMPANY HAS FELT THE EFFECTS OF THE SHORTAGE. 721 00:20:11,033 --> 00:20:12,165 EFFECTS OF THE SHORTAGE. ONE OF THEIR SUPPLIERS HAS PUT 722 00:20:12,165 --> 00:20:13,198 ONE OF THEIR SUPPLIERS HAS PUT THEM ON ALLOCATION AS WELL, 723 00:20:13,198 --> 00:20:15,231 THEM ON ALLOCATION AS WELL, THAT RATIONING PROGRAM. 724 00:20:15,231 --> 00:20:16,429 THAT RATIONING PROGRAM. >> Reporter: JUST TO BE CLEAR, 725 00:20:16,429 --> 00:20:17,792 >> Reporter: JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF YOU DID NOT HAVE HELIUM, 726 00:20:17,792 --> 00:20:18,825 IF YOU DID NOT HAVE HELIUM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS 727 00:20:18,825 --> 00:20:20,924 WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS FACILITY? 728 00:20:20,924 --> 00:20:22,759 FACILITY? >> WELL, THAT’S A SITUATION 729 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:23,858 >> WELL, THAT’S A SITUATION THAT I DON’T WANT TO EVEN 730 00:20:23,858 --> 00:20:25,066 THAT I DON’T WANT TO EVEN IMAGINE, BECAUSE IF WE DO NOT 731 00:20:25,066 --> 00:20:27,000 IMAGINE, BECAUSE IF WE DO NOT HAVE HELIUM, WE’LL HAVE TO SHUT 732 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:35,363 HAVE HELIUM, WE’LL HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. 733 00:20:35,363 --> 00:20:36,330 DOWN. >> Reporter: SHUT DOWN. 734 00:20:36,330 --> 00:20:37,363 >> Reporter: SHUT DOWN. >> EVERYTHING GETS SHUT DOWN. 735 00:20:37,363 --> 00:20:38,495 >> EVERYTHING GETS SHUT DOWN. >> AND THE HELIUM CRISIS IS 736 00:20:38,495 --> 00:20:39,759 >> AND THE HELIUM CRISIS IS HITTING AT A TIME WHEN POLAR 737 00:20:39,759 --> 00:20:40,825 HITTING AT A TIME WHEN POLAR SEMICONDUCTORS PLANS ON 738 00:20:40,825 --> 00:20:41,858 SEMICONDUCTORS PLANS ON DOUBLING PRODUCTION CAPACITY TO 739 00:20:41,858 --> 00:20:43,924 DOUBLING PRODUCTION CAPACITY TO 140 MILLION CHIPS A MONTH. 740 00:20:43,924 --> 00:20:45,033 140 MILLION CHIPS A MONTH. >> DEMAND IS NOT GOING DOWN. 741 00:20:45,033 --> 00:20:45,297 >> DEMAND IS NOT GOING DOWN. THE A.I. 742 00:20:45,297 --> 00:20:50,264 THE A.I. DATA CENTERS ARE GROWING A LOT 743 00:20:50,264 --> 00:20:51,891 DATA CENTERS ARE GROWING A LOT OF DEMAND FOR SEMICONDUCTORS. 744 00:20:51,891 --> 00:20:52,891 OF DEMAND FOR SEMICONDUCTORS. ELECTRIFICATION IS GROWING 745 00:20:52,891 --> 00:20:53,825 ELECTRIFICATION IS GROWING DEMAND FOR SEMICONDUCTORS. 746 00:20:53,825 --> 00:20:54,759 DEMAND FOR SEMICONDUCTORS. AND THAT MEANS THE DEMAND FOR 747 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:55,726 AND THAT MEANS THE DEMAND FOR HELIUM IS GONNA BE GROWING FOR 748 00:20:55,726 --> 00:20:56,726 HELIUM IS GONNA BE GROWING FOR A LONG TIME. 749 00:20:56,726 --> 00:20:57,726 A LONG TIME. >> Reporter: THESE DATA CENTERS 750 00:20:57,726 --> 00:20:58,726 >> Reporter: THESE DATA CENTERS WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT, 751 00:20:58,726 --> 00:20:59,726 WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS POPPING UP 752 00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:00,891 TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS POPPING UP ALL OVER THE U.S., THOSE DON’T 753 00:21:00,891 --> 00:21:02,660 ALL OVER THE U.S., THOSE DON’T HAPPEN IF WE DON’T HAVE HELIUM. 754 00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:04,891 HAPPEN IF WE DON’T HAVE HELIUM. >> OH, YEAH. 755 00:21:04,891 --> 00:21:06,231 >> OH, YEAH. WITHOUT HELIUM, NONE OF THESE 756 00:21:06,231 --> 00:21:07,066 WITHOUT HELIUM, NONE OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN. 757 00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:08,165 THINGS HAPPEN. THAT’S WHY LOCAL SUPPLY, SUPPLY 758 00:21:08,165 --> 00:21:09,033 THAT’S WHY LOCAL SUPPLY, SUPPLY IN THE UNITED STATES IS SO 759 00:21:09,033 --> 00:21:12,429 IN THE UNITED STATES IS SO IMPORTANT TO US. 760 00:21:12,429 --> 00:21:13,891 IMPORTANT TO US. >> BESIDES QATAR, THE UNITED 761 00:21:13,891 --> 00:21:14,693 >> BESIDES QATAR, THE UNITED STATES IS THE OTHER MAJOR 762 00:21:14,693 --> 00:21:15,660 STATES IS THE OTHER MAJOR PRODUCER OF HELIUM FOR THE 763 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:16,792 PRODUCER OF HELIUM FOR THE WORLD. 764 00:21:16,792 --> 00:21:17,660 WORLD. AND MOST OF THAT COMES FROM A 765 00:21:17,660 --> 00:21:22,825 AND MOST OF THAT COMES FROM A SINGLE FACILITY IN WYOMING. 766 00:21:22,825 --> 00:21:23,957 SINGLE FACILITY IN WYOMING. U.S. HELIUM EXPORTS ARE UP 70% 767 00:21:23,957 --> 00:21:25,000 U.S. HELIUM EXPORTS ARE UP 70% SINCE THE WAR BEGAN AND RAS 768 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,891 SINCE THE WAR BEGAN AND RAS LAFFAN WAS HIT. 769 00:21:27,891 --> 00:21:29,099 LAFFAN WAS HIT. THIS IS MOSTLY TO ACCOMMODATE 770 00:21:29,099 --> 00:21:30,000 THIS IS MOSTLY TO ACCOMMODATE COUNTRIES MANUFACTURING 771 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,495 COUNTRIES MANUFACTURING SEMICONDUCTORS. 772 00:21:32,495 --> 00:21:33,495 SEMICONDUCTORS. BUT THE U.S. CAN’T OFFSET THE 773 00:21:33,495 --> 00:21:35,231 BUT THE U.S. CAN’T OFFSET THE SHORTAGE INDEFINITELY. 774 00:21:35,231 --> 00:21:36,660 SHORTAGE INDEFINITELY. AND HERE’S ANOTHER ISSUE: 775 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:37,891 AND HERE’S ANOTHER ISSUE: RAMPING UP PRODUCTION OF HELIUM 776 00:21:37,891 --> 00:21:39,033 RAMPING UP PRODUCTION OF HELIUM IS NOT EASY, EVEN IF YOU CAN 777 00:21:39,033 --> 00:21:43,066 IS NOT EASY, EVEN IF YOU CAN FIND IT. 778 00:21:43,066 --> 00:21:44,033 FIND IT. FOUR HOURS NORTH OF THE TWIN 779 00:21:44,033 --> 00:21:45,462 FOUR HOURS NORTH OF THE TWIN CITIES, WE VISITED THE SITE OF 780 00:21:45,462 --> 00:21:47,495 CITIES, WE VISITED THE SITE OF A HELIUM DISCOVERY, THE TOPAZ 781 00:21:47,495 --> 00:21:48,462 A HELIUM DISCOVERY, THE TOPAZ PROJECT. 782 00:21:48,462 --> 00:21:49,594 PROJECT. CLIFF CAIN IS PRESIDENT OF THE 783 00:21:49,594 --> 00:21:52,594 CLIFF CAIN IS PRESIDENT OF THE STARTUP EXPLORATION COMPANY. 784 00:21:52,594 --> 00:21:53,660 STARTUP EXPLORATION COMPANY. >> SO THIS IS A WELLHEAD. 785 00:21:53,660 --> 00:21:57,396 >> SO THIS IS A WELLHEAD. WE DRILL DOWN AROUND 3500 FEET. 786 00:21:57,396 --> 00:22:00,891 WE DRILL DOWN AROUND 3500 FEET. WE HIT THE POCKET OF GAS DOWN 787 00:22:00,891 --> 00:22:01,858 WE HIT THE POCKET OF GAS DOWN THERE, AND UP COMES THE GAS. 788 00:22:01,858 --> 00:22:03,033 THERE, AND UP COMES THE GAS. IT WILL COME OUT THIS GAUGE 789 00:22:03,033 --> 00:22:03,891 IT WILL COME OUT THIS GAUGE HERE. 790 00:22:03,891 --> 00:22:07,594 HERE. AND THAT’S HOW IT GOES. 791 00:22:07,594 --> 00:22:08,924 AND THAT’S HOW IT GOES. >> AND ONCE IT GOES, THIS 792 00:22:08,924 --> 00:22:09,693 >> AND ONCE IT GOES, THIS FINITE RESOURCE IS GONE 793 00:22:09,693 --> 00:22:16,000 FINITE RESOURCE IS GONE FOREVER. 794 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,396 FOREVER. FOR THE RECORD, CAIN ESTIMATES 795 00:22:17,396 --> 00:22:18,396 FOR THE RECORD, CAIN ESTIMATES ABOUT A DOLLAR OF HELIUM IS 796 00:22:18,396 --> 00:22:19,264 ABOUT A DOLLAR OF HELIUM IS RELEASED EVERY SECOND THAT 797 00:22:19,264 --> 00:22:23,165 RELEASED EVERY SECOND THAT VALVE IS OPEN. 798 00:22:23,165 --> 00:22:24,231 VALVE IS OPEN. HIS COMPANY HAS INSERTED SEVEN 799 00:22:24,231 --> 00:22:25,264 HIS COMPANY HAS INSERTED SEVEN WELLS AROUND A 100-SQUARE-MILE 800 00:22:25,264 --> 00:22:27,396 WELLS AROUND A 100-SQUARE-MILE PLOT OF LAND. 801 00:22:27,396 --> 00:22:28,693 PLOT OF LAND. IN MOST CASES, INCLUDING THE 802 00:22:28,693 --> 00:22:30,099 IN MOST CASES, INCLUDING THE QATAR FACILITY, HELIUM IS A 803 00:22:30,099 --> 00:22:32,528 QATAR FACILITY, HELIUM IS A BYPRODUCT OF THE MONEY-MAKER: 804 00:22:32,528 --> 00:22:36,198 BYPRODUCT OF THE MONEY-MAKER: NATURAL GAS EXTRACTION. 805 00:22:36,198 --> 00:22:38,594 NATURAL GAS EXTRACTION. IN MINNESOTA, THOUGH, IT’S ALL 806 00:22:38,594 --> 00:22:40,891 IN MINNESOTA, THOUGH, IT’S ALL HELIUM, ALL THE TIME. 807 00:22:40,891 --> 00:22:42,165 HELIUM, ALL THE TIME. BUT FINDING HELIUM IS ONE 808 00:22:42,165 --> 00:22:43,198 BUT FINDING HELIUM IS ONE THING. 809 00:22:43,198 --> 00:22:44,528 THING. GETTING IT TO MARKET, EVEN IN 810 00:22:44,528 --> 00:22:46,726 GETTING IT TO MARKET, EVEN IN THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO, WILL 811 00:22:46,726 --> 00:22:47,726 THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO, WILL TAKE YEARS. 812 00:22:47,726 --> 00:22:48,759 TAKE YEARS. >> Reporter: THIS IS ALL 813 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:50,165 >> Reporter: THIS IS ALL ENCOURAGING. 814 00:22:50,165 --> 00:22:51,330 ENCOURAGING. BUT THIS ISN’T GONNA HELP US 815 00:22:51,330 --> 00:22:52,495 BUT THIS ISN’T GONNA HELP US NEXT MONTH. 816 00:22:52,495 --> 00:22:53,660 NEXT MONTH. >> IT’S NOT GONNA HELP US NEXT 817 00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:54,792 >> IT’S NOT GONNA HELP US NEXT MONTH. 818 00:22:54,792 --> 00:22:56,033 MONTH. IT’S NOT EASY TO FIND. 819 00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:57,429 IT’S NOT EASY TO FIND. IT’S NOT EASY TO BUILD. 820 00:22:57,429 --> 00:22:59,693 IT’S NOT EASY TO BUILD. THE LOGISTICS ARE HARD, RIGHT? 821 00:22:59,693 --> 00:23:01,165 THE LOGISTICS ARE HARD, RIGHT? YOU’VE GOTTA KEEP SOMETHING 822 00:23:01,165 --> 00:23:02,330 YOU’VE GOTTA KEEP SOMETHING THAT’S 452 DEGREES BELOW ZERO 823 00:23:02,330 --> 00:23:03,198 THAT’S 452 DEGREES BELOW ZERO COLD. 824 00:23:03,198 --> 00:23:04,297 COLD. AND IT’S PERISHABLE. 825 00:23:04,297 --> 00:23:05,396 AND IT’S PERISHABLE. >> THAT’S BECAUSE HELIUM STARTS 826 00:23:05,396 --> 00:23:06,528 >> THAT’S BECAUSE HELIUM STARTS TO BOIL OFF AS SOON AS IT’S IN 827 00:23:06,528 --> 00:23:07,693 TO BOIL OFF AS SOON AS IT’S IN TRANSIT. 828 00:23:07,693 --> 00:23:08,825 TRANSIT. IT’S THAT COMPLICATED SUPPLY 829 00:23:08,825 --> 00:23:10,132 IT’S THAT COMPLICATED SUPPLY CHAIN THAT WORRIES CAIN, MAKING 830 00:23:10,132 --> 00:23:12,561 CHAIN THAT WORRIES CAIN, MAKING HELIUM, HE SAYS, PARTICULARLY 831 00:23:12,561 --> 00:23:14,627 HELIUM, HE SAYS, PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO DISRUPTION. 832 00:23:14,627 --> 00:23:15,792 VULNERABLE TO DISRUPTION. >> WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO WARN 833 00:23:15,792 --> 00:23:17,066 >> WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO WARN THE MARKETS ABOUT THIS FOR 834 00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:18,165 THE MARKETS ABOUT THIS FOR DECADES. 835 00:23:18,165 --> 00:23:19,363 DECADES. WE’RE TOO CONCENTRATED WITH OUR 836 00:23:19,363 --> 00:23:20,462 WE’RE TOO CONCENTRATED WITH OUR SUPPLY IN THE WORLD. 837 00:23:20,462 --> 00:23:21,660 SUPPLY IN THE WORLD. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU’VE GOT 838 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:22,528 WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU’VE GOT SUPPLY IN QATAR. 839 00:23:22,528 --> 00:23:23,495 SUPPLY IN QATAR. YOU HAVE SOME SUPPLY IN 840 00:23:23,495 --> 00:23:24,594 YOU HAVE SOME SUPPLY IN ALGERIA. 841 00:23:24,594 --> 00:23:25,726 ALGERIA. YOU HAVE A LITTLE IN POLAND. 842 00:23:25,726 --> 00:23:26,858 YOU HAVE A LITTLE IN POLAND. YOU HAVE A SOURCE IN RUSSIA. 843 00:23:26,858 --> 00:23:28,066 YOU HAVE A SOURCE IN RUSSIA. AND WE HAVE A FEW HERE IN THE 844 00:23:28,066 --> 00:23:29,198 AND WE HAVE A FEW HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 845 00:23:29,198 --> 00:23:30,495 UNITED STATES. SO ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW OF 846 00:23:30,495 --> 00:23:31,495 SO ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW OF THOSE TO FALL AND THE WHOLE 847 00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:36,561 THOSE TO FALL AND THE WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN COMES UNRAVELED. 848 00:23:36,561 --> 00:23:37,693 SUPPLY CHAIN COMES UNRAVELED. >> THE LONGER THE WAR WITH IRAN 849 00:23:37,693 --> 00:23:39,099 >> THE LONGER THE WAR WITH IRAN CONTINUES, THE TIGHTER THE 850 00:23:39,099 --> 00:23:41,462 CONTINUES, THE TIGHTER THE GLOBAL SUPPLY OF HELIUM GETS. 851 00:23:41,462 --> 00:23:42,594 GLOBAL SUPPLY OF HELIUM GETS. BUT HOW TIGHT? 852 00:23:42,594 --> 00:23:44,627 BUT HOW TIGHT? THAT’S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER. 853 00:23:44,627 --> 00:23:45,693 THAT’S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER. IF HELIUM IS HARD TO ACQUIRE, 854 00:23:45,693 --> 00:23:47,033 IF HELIUM IS HARD TO ACQUIRE, SO IS INFORMATION ABOUT IT. 855 00:23:47,033 --> 00:23:48,198 SO IS INFORMATION ABOUT IT. >> Reporter: IS OPAQUE A FAIR 856 00:23:48,198 --> 00:23:49,198 >> Reporter: IS OPAQUE A FAIR WORD? 857 00:23:49,198 --> 00:23:51,561 WORD? >> OH, YES. 858 00:23:51,561 --> 00:23:52,825 >> OH, YES. ABSOLUTELY. 859 00:23:52,825 --> 00:23:54,099 ABSOLUTELY. IT’S A VERY TIGHT-KNIT BUSINESS 860 00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:55,330 IT’S A VERY TIGHT-KNIT BUSINESS WITH THESE SIX MAIN PLAYERS WHO 861 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:56,693 WITH THESE SIX MAIN PLAYERS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 862 00:23:56,693 --> 00:23:58,825 ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE SALES. 863 00:23:58,825 --> 00:24:00,066 MAJORITY OF THE SALES. >> RICH BROOKE WOULD KNOW. 864 00:24:00,066 --> 00:24:01,264 >> RICH BROOKE WOULD KNOW. HE’S A FORMER EXECUTIVE AT AIR 865 00:24:01,264 --> 00:24:03,363 HE’S A FORMER EXECUTIVE AT AIR LIQUIDE, ONE OF THE SIX MAJOR 866 00:24:03,363 --> 00:24:04,462 LIQUIDE, ONE OF THE SIX MAJOR INTERNATIONAL HELIUM SUPPLIERS, 867 00:24:04,462 --> 00:24:05,363 INTERNATIONAL HELIUM SUPPLIERS, AND IS NOW AN INDUSTRY 868 00:24:05,363 --> 00:24:07,759 AND IS NOW AN INDUSTRY CONSULTANT. 869 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:09,297 CONSULTANT. >> Reporter: HOW MUCH HAVE 870 00:24:09,297 --> 00:24:10,462 >> Reporter: HOW MUCH HAVE PRICES GONE UP THIS YEAR? 871 00:24:10,462 --> 00:24:11,627 PRICES GONE UP THIS YEAR? >> THE SPOT MARKET PRICES HAVE 872 00:24:11,627 --> 00:24:13,264 >> THE SPOT MARKET PRICES HAVE TRIPLED. 873 00:24:13,264 --> 00:24:14,165 TRIPLED. AND THEY CAN GO EVEN HIGHER 874 00:24:14,165 --> 00:24:15,099 AND THEY CAN GO EVEN HIGHER BECAUSE -- 875 00:24:15,099 --> 00:24:16,099 BECAUSE -- >> Reporter: TRIPLED? 876 00:24:16,099 --> 00:24:17,033 >> Reporter: TRIPLED? >> TRIPLED. 877 00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:18,099 >> TRIPLED. YES. 878 00:24:18,099 --> 00:24:19,330 YES. >> Reporter: YOU -- YOU THINK 879 00:24:19,330 --> 00:24:20,528 >> Reporter: YOU -- YOU THINK IT’S EXPENSIVE TO FILL YOUR CAR 880 00:24:20,528 --> 00:24:22,033 IT’S EXPENSIVE TO FILL YOUR CAR UP WITH GAS. 881 00:24:22,033 --> 00:24:23,198 UP WITH GAS. >> THAT’S RIGHT. 882 00:24:23,198 --> 00:24:24,330 >> THAT’S RIGHT. >> Reporter: THE U.S. PRODUCES 883 00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:25,396 >> Reporter: THE U.S. PRODUCES HELIUM AS WELL. 884 00:24:25,396 --> 00:24:26,528 HELIUM AS WELL. ARE THERE COUNTRIES THAT HAD 885 00:24:26,528 --> 00:24:27,660 ARE THERE COUNTRIES THAT HAD BEEN RELYING ON QATAR THAT ARE 886 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:28,660 BEEN RELYING ON QATAR THAT ARE NOW COMING TO THE U.S. FOR 887 00:24:28,660 --> 00:24:29,693 NOW COMING TO THE U.S. FOR THEIR SUPPLY? 888 00:24:29,693 --> 00:24:30,792 THEIR SUPPLY? >> YES. 889 00:24:30,792 --> 00:24:31,759 >> YES. ABSOLUTELY. 890 00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:32,693 ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY THE COUNTRIES THAT 891 00:24:32,693 --> 00:24:34,891 ESPECIALLY THE COUNTRIES THAT WERE HEAVILY REQUIRING HELIUM 892 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:35,792 WERE HEAVILY REQUIRING HELIUM FOR THEIR SEMICONDUCTOR 893 00:24:35,792 --> 00:24:37,000 FOR THEIR SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRIES, THERE’S ONLY BEEN 894 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,858 INDUSTRIES, THERE’S ONLY BEEN TRADITIONALLY TWO QUALIFIED 895 00:24:37,858 --> 00:24:39,660 TRADITIONALLY TWO QUALIFIED SOURCES, QATAR AND EXXON, WHICH 896 00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:40,759 SOURCES, QATAR AND EXXON, WHICH IS HERE IN THE U.S. WHEN QATAR 897 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:42,792 IS HERE IN THE U.S. WHEN QATAR WENT DOWN, THOSE COMPANIES, 898 00:24:42,792 --> 00:24:44,099 WENT DOWN, THOSE COMPANIES, WHICH ARE PREDOMINANTLY BASED 899 00:24:44,099 --> 00:24:45,165 WHICH ARE PREDOMINANTLY BASED IN PLACES LIKE KOREA AND TAIWAN 900 00:24:45,165 --> 00:24:46,495 IN PLACES LIKE KOREA AND TAIWAN AND SINGAPORE, IMMEDIATELY 901 00:24:46,495 --> 00:24:47,594 AND SINGAPORE, IMMEDIATELY STARTED LOOKING TOWARDS THE 902 00:24:47,594 --> 00:24:48,462 STARTED LOOKING TOWARDS THE U.S. FOR SUPPLIES. 903 00:24:48,462 --> 00:24:49,462 U.S. FOR SUPPLIES. >> Reporter: HOW LONG CAN THE 904 00:24:49,462 --> 00:24:50,594 >> Reporter: HOW LONG CAN THE U.S. ACCOMMODATE THIS DEMAND 905 00:24:50,594 --> 00:24:51,660 U.S. ACCOMMODATE THIS DEMAND FROM OTHER COUNTRIES? 906 00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:52,891 FROM OTHER COUNTRIES? >> WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG 907 00:24:52,891 --> 00:24:54,297 >> WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE SHORTAGE LASTS. 908 00:24:54,297 --> 00:24:55,330 THE SHORTAGE LASTS. AND ALSO IT DEPENDS ON -- ON 909 00:24:55,330 --> 00:24:56,297 AND ALSO IT DEPENDS ON -- ON HOW MUCH PRODUCT WE CAN 910 00:24:56,297 --> 00:24:57,264 HOW MUCH PRODUCT WE CAN CONTINUE TO RECOVER OUT OF THE 911 00:24:57,264 --> 00:24:59,396 CONTINUE TO RECOVER OUT OF THE -- OUT OF THE CAVERNS. 912 00:24:59,396 --> 00:25:00,726 -- OUT OF THE CAVERNS. >> HE’S REFERRING TO HELIUM 913 00:25:00,726 --> 00:25:02,132 >> HE’S REFERRING TO HELIUM STORAGE CAVERNS -- TWO IN THE 914 00:25:02,132 --> 00:25:03,825 STORAGE CAVERNS -- TWO IN THE U.S., ONE IN GERMANY -- 915 00:25:03,825 --> 00:25:04,825 U.S., ONE IN GERMANY -- ILLUSTRATED IN THIS DIAGRAM IN 916 00:25:04,825 --> 00:25:05,858 ILLUSTRATED IN THIS DIAGRAM IN BLUE. 917 00:25:05,858 --> 00:25:07,198 BLUE. THEY ARE UNDERGROUND, MADE OF 918 00:25:07,198 --> 00:25:08,330 THEY ARE UNDERGROUND, MADE OF SALT, AND NATURALLY 919 00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:09,429 SALT, AND NATURALLY IMPERMEABLE, WHICH MAKES THEM 920 00:25:09,429 --> 00:25:10,594 IMPERMEABLE, WHICH MAKES THEM IDEAL FOR HOLDING EXCESS HELIUM 921 00:25:10,594 --> 00:25:14,000 IDEAL FOR HOLDING EXCESS HELIUM WHEN THE MARKET IS LONG. 922 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,132 WHEN THE MARKET IS LONG. >> Reporter: DO WE HAVE ANY 923 00:25:15,132 --> 00:25:16,429 >> Reporter: DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH HELIUM IS IN 924 00:25:16,429 --> 00:25:18,957 IDEA HOW MUCH HELIUM IS IN THESE CAVERNS? 925 00:25:18,957 --> 00:25:20,000 THESE CAVERNS? >> SO THAT’S A CLOSELY HELD 926 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,132 >> SO THAT’S A CLOSELY HELD SECRET BY THE OWNERS OF THE 927 00:25:21,132 --> 00:25:22,825 SECRET BY THE OWNERS OF THE CAVERN. 928 00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:23,957 CAVERN. THE MARKET AT ONE POINT LAST 929 00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:24,924 THE MARKET AT ONE POINT LAST YEAR WAS LONG. 930 00:25:24,924 --> 00:25:25,924 YEAR WAS LONG. SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY TAKING 931 00:25:25,924 --> 00:25:26,858 SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY TAKING HELIUM AND PUMPING IT INTO 932 00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:27,957 HELIUM AND PUMPING IT INTO THOSE CAVERNS. 933 00:25:27,957 --> 00:25:29,363 THOSE CAVERNS. OF COURSE, NOW THEY’VE REVERSED 934 00:25:29,363 --> 00:25:31,000 OF COURSE, NOW THEY’VE REVERSED THE DIRECTION. 935 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,033 THE DIRECTION. >> Reporter: THREE MONTHS FROM 936 00:25:32,033 --> 00:25:33,429 >> Reporter: THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, WHAT DOES SUPPLY LOOK 937 00:25:33,429 --> 00:25:34,132 NOW, WHAT DOES SUPPLY LOOK LIKE? 938 00:25:34,132 --> 00:25:35,462 LIKE? >> WELL, IF YOU CAN TELL ME 939 00:25:35,462 --> 00:25:36,297 >> WELL, IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT’S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE 940 00:25:36,297 --> 00:25:37,132 WHAT’S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ BETWEEN NOW 941 00:25:37,132 --> 00:25:39,231 STRAIT OF HORMUZ BETWEEN NOW AND THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, I 942 00:25:39,231 --> 00:25:40,264 AND THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT’LL BE 943 00:25:40,264 --> 00:25:41,363 CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT’LL BE HAPPENING IN THE HELIUM 944 00:25:41,363 --> 00:25:42,330 HAPPENING IN THE HELIUM BUSINESS. 945 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:43,561 BUSINESS. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN’T AND SO 946 00:25:43,561 --> 00:25:44,297 UNFORTUNATELY, YOU CAN’T AND SO I CAN’T. 947 00:25:44,297 --> 00:25:45,231 I CAN’T. >> IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE 948 00:25:45,231 --> 00:25:46,099 >> IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE IRANIAN STRIKES ON RAS LAFFAN 949 00:25:46,099 --> 00:25:47,363 IRANIAN STRIKES ON RAS LAFFAN IN MARCH, THE QATARIS SAID IT 950 00:25:47,363 --> 00:25:48,396 IN MARCH, THE QATARIS SAID IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST THREE YEARS 951 00:25:48,396 --> 00:25:49,462 WOULD TAKE AT LEAST THREE YEARS TO GET THE FACILITY BACK IN 952 00:25:49,462 --> 00:25:51,693 TO GET THE FACILITY BACK IN FULL OPERATION. 953 00:25:51,693 --> 00:25:52,726 FULL OPERATION. WE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE 954 00:25:52,726 --> 00:25:53,891 WE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE OF THE 955 00:25:53,891 --> 00:25:54,924 EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE OF THE HELIUM INFRASTRUCTURE 956 00:25:54,924 --> 00:25:56,297 HELIUM INFRASTRUCTURE SPECIFICALLY, BUT OUR REQUESTS 957 00:25:56,297 --> 00:26:00,099 SPECIFICALLY, BUT OUR REQUESTS FOR COMMENT WENT UNANSWERED. 958 00:26:00,099 --> 00:26:01,429 FOR COMMENT WENT UNANSWERED. WITH SO MUCH AT STAKE, AND SO 959 00:26:01,429 --> 00:26:02,858 WITH SO MUCH AT STAKE, AND SO MUCH SWIRLING UNCERTAINTY ABOUT 960 00:26:02,858 --> 00:26:04,066 MUCH SWIRLING UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE STATE OF THIS VITAL 961 00:26:04,066 --> 00:26:05,594 THE STATE OF THIS VITAL ELEMENT, WE ENLISTED JOE 962 00:26:05,594 --> 00:26:06,627 ELEMENT, WE ENLISTED JOE BERMUDEZ TO ASSESS HOW BAD IT 963 00:26:06,627 --> 00:26:09,495 BERMUDEZ TO ASSESS HOW BAD IT COULD GET. 964 00:26:09,495 --> 00:26:10,792 COULD GET. A SENIOR IMAGERY ANALYST AT THE 965 00:26:10,792 --> 00:26:12,000 A SENIOR IMAGERY ANALYST AT THE CENTER FOR STRATEGIC AND 966 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,264 CENTER FOR STRATEGIC AND INTERNATIONAL STUDIES, BERMUDEZ 967 00:26:13,264 --> 00:26:14,264 INTERNATIONAL STUDIES, BERMUDEZ LOOKED FOR CLUES USING WHAT 968 00:26:14,264 --> 00:26:16,462 LOOKED FOR CLUES USING WHAT LITTLE INFORMATION WE DO HAVE. 969 00:26:16,462 --> 00:26:20,297 LITTLE INFORMATION WE DO HAVE. IT COMES FROM A SATELLITE. 970 00:26:20,297 --> 00:26:21,462 IT COMES FROM A SATELLITE. >> IT’D BE NICE IF THE QATARI 971 00:26:21,462 --> 00:26:22,792 >> IT’D BE NICE IF THE QATARI GOVERNMENT SHARED A LITTLE 972 00:26:22,792 --> 00:26:25,792 GOVERNMENT SHARED A LITTLE MORE. 973 00:26:25,792 --> 00:26:26,858 MORE. >> WE PROVIDED BERMUDEZ TWO 974 00:26:26,858 --> 00:26:28,099 >> WE PROVIDED BERMUDEZ TWO IMAGES OF AN AREA OF RAS LAFFAN 975 00:26:28,099 --> 00:26:29,198 IMAGES OF AN AREA OF RAS LAFFAN THAT FACILITATES HELIUM 976 00:26:29,198 --> 00:26:30,726 THAT FACILITATES HELIUM PRODUCTION, ONE BEFORE THE 977 00:26:30,726 --> 00:26:32,693 PRODUCTION, ONE BEFORE THE IRANIAN STRIKES IN MARCH, ONE 978 00:26:32,693 --> 00:26:36,495 IRANIAN STRIKES IN MARCH, ONE FOUR DAYS AFTER. 979 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:37,858 FOUR DAYS AFTER. HE SHOWED US THIS AREA WHERE HE 980 00:26:37,858 --> 00:26:39,165 HE SHOWED US THIS AREA WHERE HE SAYS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WATER 981 00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:40,297 SAYS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WATER OR FIREFIGHTING FOAM DRIED TO 982 00:26:40,297 --> 00:26:41,330 OR FIREFIGHTING FOAM DRIED TO MAKE A BLACK STAIN ON THE 983 00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:45,396 MAKE A BLACK STAIN ON THE CEMENT. 984 00:26:45,396 --> 00:26:46,924 CEMENT. >> IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING 985 00:26:46,924 --> 00:26:48,198 >> IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING NECESSITATED THE PIPES IN THIS 986 00:26:48,198 --> 00:26:49,594 NECESSITATED THE PIPES IN THIS AREA, THE EQUIPMENT IN THIS 987 00:26:49,594 --> 00:26:51,264 AREA, THE EQUIPMENT IN THIS AREA TO BE HOSED DOWN. 988 00:26:51,264 --> 00:26:52,396 AREA TO BE HOSED DOWN. >> Reporter: SO YOU’RE NOT 989 00:26:52,396 --> 00:26:53,561 >> Reporter: SO YOU’RE NOT PREPARED TO SAY WHAT IT WAS OR 990 00:26:53,561 --> 00:26:54,891 PREPARED TO SAY WHAT IT WAS OR THE SEVERITY, BUT SOMETHING 991 00:26:54,891 --> 00:26:55,726 THE SEVERITY, BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED? 992 00:26:55,726 --> 00:26:56,759 HAPPENED? >> YES. 993 00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:57,891 >> YES. ABSOLUTELY. 994 00:26:57,891 --> 00:26:58,891 ABSOLUTELY. >> FOR ALL THE UNANSWERED 995 00:26:58,891 --> 00:27:00,231 >> FOR ALL THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTENT OF 996 00:27:00,231 --> 00:27:01,363 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE DAMAGE AT THE QATAR 997 00:27:01,363 --> 00:27:05,495 THE DAMAGE AT THE QATAR FACILITY, THIS WE KNOW: THE 998 00:27:05,495 --> 00:27:06,594 FACILITY, THIS WE KNOW: THE HELIUM SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ARE 999 00:27:06,594 --> 00:27:07,759 HELIUM SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ARE SUFFICIENTLY SERIOUS THAT CLIFF 1000 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:09,000 SUFFICIENTLY SERIOUS THAT CLIFF CAIN HAS BRIEFED POLICYMAKERS 1001 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,957 CAIN HAS BRIEFED POLICYMAKERS IN WASHINGTON. 1002 00:27:09,957 --> 00:27:11,231 IN WASHINGTON. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU ADDRESSED 1003 00:27:11,231 --> 00:27:12,429 >> Reporter: WHEN YOU ADDRESSED THE PENTAGON ABOUT HELIUM, 1004 00:27:12,429 --> 00:27:13,858 THE PENTAGON ABOUT HELIUM, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WERE YOU 1005 00:27:13,858 --> 00:27:14,924 SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WERE YOU TELLING THEM? 1006 00:27:14,924 --> 00:27:16,099 TELLING THEM? >> THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM. 1007 00:27:16,099 --> 00:27:17,429 >> THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM. WE HAVE A SINGLE, CRITICAL 1008 00:27:17,429 --> 00:27:19,594 WE HAVE A SINGLE, CRITICAL POINT OF FAILURE IN THE SYSTEM. 1009 00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:20,594 POINT OF FAILURE IN THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE QATAR GO DOWN. 1010 00:27:20,594 --> 00:27:21,957 WE HAVE QATAR GO DOWN. NOW THAT SINGLE, CRITICAL POINT 1011 00:27:21,957 --> 00:27:23,264 NOW THAT SINGLE, CRITICAL POINT OF FAILURE IS COMING CLOSER TO 1012 00:27:23,264 --> 00:27:24,000 OF FAILURE IS COMING CLOSER TO TERM. 1013 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,957 TERM. AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT’S GOT 1014 00:27:24,957 --> 00:27:26,297 AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT’S GOT US CONCERNED, IT’S ’CAUSE 1015 00:27:26,297 --> 00:27:28,957 US CONCERNED, IT’S ’CAUSE THAT’S ALL IT DOES TAKE. 1016 00:27:28,957 --> 00:27:30,066 THAT’S ALL IT DOES TAKE. >> CAIN SAYS IT’S ESPECIALLY 1017 00:27:30,066 --> 00:27:31,198 >> CAIN SAYS IT’S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING GIVEN THAT ON 1018 00:27:31,198 --> 00:27:32,297 CONCERNING GIVEN THAT ON ACCOUNT OF THE WAR WITH IRAN, 1019 00:27:32,297 --> 00:27:33,363 ACCOUNT OF THE WAR WITH IRAN, THE U.S. IS EXPERIENCING A 1020 00:27:33,363 --> 00:27:37,000 THE U.S. IS EXPERIENCING A MUNITIONS SHORTAGE. 1021 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,099 MUNITIONS SHORTAGE. AND YET THE PENTAGON HAS ASKED 1022 00:27:38,099 --> 00:27:39,231 AND YET THE PENTAGON HAS ASKED SOME DEFENSE CONTRACTORS TO 1023 00:27:39,231 --> 00:27:40,330 SOME DEFENSE CONTRACTORS TO QUADRUPLE THEIR PRODUCTION 1024 00:27:40,330 --> 00:27:41,792 QUADRUPLE THEIR PRODUCTION CAPACITIES OF CERTAIN WEAPONS. 1025 00:27:41,792 --> 00:27:42,957 CAPACITIES OF CERTAIN WEAPONS. >> YOU CAN’T MAKE MODERN 1026 00:27:42,957 --> 00:27:44,495 >> YOU CAN’T MAKE MODERN WARFARE WITHOUT HELIUM. 1027 00:27:44,495 --> 00:27:45,594 WARFARE WITHOUT HELIUM. AND THAT’S JUST A FACT. 1028 00:27:45,594 --> 00:27:46,660 AND THAT’S JUST A FACT. YOU’VE HEARD ABOUT THE 1029 00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:49,000 YOU’VE HEARD ABOUT THE MISSILES, THE HYPERSONICS. 1030 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,297 MISSILES, THE HYPERSONICS. WITHOUT HELIUM, YOU CAN’T MAKE 1031 00:27:50,297 --> 00:27:52,198 WITHOUT HELIUM, YOU CAN’T MAKE THE FIBER OPTICS. 1032 00:27:52,198 --> 00:27:53,231 THE FIBER OPTICS. YOU CAN’T PRODUCE THE 1033 00:27:53,231 --> 00:27:54,231 YOU CAN’T PRODUCE THE MUNITIONS. 1034 00:27:54,231 --> 00:27:55,297 MUNITIONS. YOU CAN’T PRODUCE THE 1035 00:27:55,297 --> 00:27:56,363 YOU CAN’T PRODUCE THE ELECTRONICS THAT GOES ON THESE 1036 00:27:56,363 --> 00:27:57,297 ELECTRONICS THAT GOES ON THESE THINGS. 1037 00:27:57,297 --> 00:27:58,231 THINGS. AND SO IF YOU DON’T HAVE 1038 00:27:58,231 --> 00:27:59,759 AND SO IF YOU DON’T HAVE HELIUM, YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO 1039 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:00,924 HELIUM, YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE WAR BECOMES EVEN MORE 1040 00:28:00,924 --> 00:28:02,033 MAKE WAR BECOMES EVEN MORE DIFFICULT. 1041 00:28:02,033 --> 00:28:03,264 DIFFICULT. >> WE ARE SEVEN MONTHS INTO THE 1042 00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:07,198 >> WE ARE SEVEN MONTHS INTO THE WAR NOW, WITH NO END IN SIGHT. 1043 00:28:07,198 --> 00:28:08,495 WAR NOW, WITH NO END IN SIGHT. SINCE SEPTEMBER, NEARLY TWO 1044 00:28:08,495 --> 00:28:09,660 SINCE SEPTEMBER, NEARLY TWO DOZEN SHIPS HAVE BEEN HIT WHILE 1045 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:10,858 DOZEN SHIPS HAVE BEEN HIT WHILE ATTEMPTING TO PASS THROUGH THE 1046 00:28:10,858 --> 00:28:13,231 ATTEMPTING TO PASS THROUGH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. 1047 00:28:13,231 --> 00:28:14,396 STRAIT OF HORMUZ. AND NO SHIPS CARRYING HELIUM 1048 00:28:14,396 --> 00:28:15,792 AND NO SHIPS CARRYING HELIUM ARE LEAVING QATAR. 1049 00:28:15,792 --> 00:28:19,627 ARE LEAVING QATAR. >> [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 1050 00:28:29,198 --> 00:28:30,594 >>> SACHA BARON COHEN HAS MADE 1051 00:28:30,594 --> 00:28:31,891 >>> SACHA BARON COHEN HAS MADE A CAREER IN ENTERTAINMENT OUT 1052 00:28:31,891 --> 00:28:32,924 A CAREER IN ENTERTAINMENT OUT OF RENDERING HIMSELF 1053 00:28:32,924 --> 00:28:37,792 OF RENDERING HIMSELF UNRECOGNIZABLE AS THE LOVABLE 1054 00:28:37,792 --> 00:28:39,066 UNRECOGNIZABLE AS THE LOVABLE BUT IGNORANT KAZAKHSTANI 1055 00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:40,396 BUT IGNORANT KAZAKHSTANI REPORTER BORAT, THE FASHION AND 1056 00:28:40,396 --> 00:28:42,264 REPORTER BORAT, THE FASHION AND FAME-OBSESSED NARCISSIST BRUNO, 1057 00:28:42,264 --> 00:28:45,561 FAME-OBSESSED NARCISSIST BRUNO, AND THE HIP-HOP IDIOT ALI G, 1058 00:28:45,561 --> 00:28:46,627 AND THE HIP-HOP IDIOT ALI G, HILARIOUS FOOLS HE DEPLOYS TO 1059 00:28:46,627 --> 00:28:47,561 HILARIOUS FOOLS HE DEPLOYS TO TRICK REAL PEOPLE INTO EXPOSING 1060 00:28:47,561 --> 00:28:51,198 TRICK REAL PEOPLE INTO EXPOSING THEIR REAL BELIEFS. 1061 00:28:51,198 --> 00:28:52,891 THEIR REAL BELIEFS. AT 55, BARON COHEN HAS BEEN 1062 00:28:52,891 --> 00:28:54,165 AT 55, BARON COHEN HAS BEEN DOING HIS UNDERCOVER COMEDY FOR 1063 00:28:54,165 --> 00:28:56,627 DOING HIS UNDERCOVER COMEDY FOR MORE THAN HALF HIS LIFE. 1064 00:28:56,627 --> 00:28:58,924 MORE THAN HALF HIS LIFE. IN THAT TIME, THE COMPLEXITY, 1065 00:28:58,924 --> 00:29:00,330 IN THAT TIME, THE COMPLEXITY, MORAL STAKES, AND PHYSICAL 1066 00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:01,495 MORAL STAKES, AND PHYSICAL DANGER ENTAILED IN HIS 1067 00:29:01,495 --> 00:29:05,165 DANGER ENTAILED IN HIS DECEPTIONS HAS INCREASED. 1068 00:29:05,165 --> 00:29:06,330 DECEPTIONS HAS INCREASED. HE SOMETIMES REQUIRES TRAP 1069 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:07,396 HE SOMETIMES REQUIRES TRAP DOORS AND GETAWAY VANS TO 1070 00:29:07,396 --> 00:29:08,297 DOORS AND GETAWAY VANS TO ESCAPE THE SITUATIONS HE’S 1071 00:29:08,297 --> 00:29:11,792 ESCAPE THE SITUATIONS HE’S CREATED. 1072 00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:12,891 CREATED. HE IS A RARE COMBINATION, A 1073 00:29:12,891 --> 00:29:14,165 HE IS A RARE COMBINATION, A MISSION-DRIVEN PUBLIC 1074 00:29:14,165 --> 00:29:15,528 MISSION-DRIVEN PUBLIC INTELLECTUAL AND AN ADRENALINE 1075 00:29:15,528 --> 00:29:17,363 INTELLECTUAL AND AN ADRENALINE JUNKIE WHO HAS INVENTED HIS OWN 1076 00:29:17,363 --> 00:29:19,231 JUNKIE WHO HAS INVENTED HIS OWN GENRE OF COMEDY IN THE HOPES OF 1077 00:29:19,231 --> 00:29:20,363 GENRE OF COMEDY IN THE HOPES OF MAKING US LAUGH AND WAKING US 1078 00:29:20,363 --> 00:29:21,594 MAKING US LAUGH AND WAKING US UP. 1079 00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:22,726 UP. WE TALKED TO HIM AT HIS ALMA 1080 00:29:22,726 --> 00:29:26,000 WE TALKED TO HIM AT HIS ALMA MATER, CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY, 1081 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 MATER, CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY, WHERE HIS PARENTS SENT HIM IN 1082 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,891 WHERE HIS PARENTS SENT HIM IN THE HOPES THAT HE WOULD BECOME 1083 00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,627 THE HOPES THAT HE WOULD BECOME A LAWYER: 1084 00:29:30,627 --> 00:29:33,165 A LAWYER: >> I WANTED TO BE A COMEDIAN. 1085 00:29:33,165 --> 00:29:34,429 >> I WANTED TO BE A COMEDIAN. BUT I WAS EMBARRASSED TO TELL 1086 00:29:34,429 --> 00:29:35,528 BUT I WAS EMBARRASSED TO TELL ANYONE THAT I WANTED TO BE A 1087 00:29:35,528 --> 00:29:36,495 ANYONE THAT I WANTED TO BE A COMEDIAN BECAUSE IT’S A BIT 1088 00:29:36,495 --> 00:29:37,858 COMEDIAN BECAUSE IT’S A BIT LIKE SAYING, "I WANT TO BE A 1089 00:29:37,858 --> 00:29:38,693 LIKE SAYING, "I WANT TO BE A SUPER MODEL." 1090 00:29:38,693 --> 00:29:42,066 SUPER MODEL." YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE GO, "WELL, 1091 00:29:42,066 --> 00:29:43,033 YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE GO, "WELL, YOU’RE NOT ACTUALLY VERY GOOD 1092 00:29:43,033 --> 00:29:43,825 YOU’RE NOT ACTUALLY VERY GOOD LOOKING" 1093 00:29:43,825 --> 00:29:47,462 LOOKING" >> Reporter: IT’S A SECRET. 1094 00:29:47,462 --> 00:29:48,429 >> Reporter: IT’S A SECRET. >> EXACTLY. 1095 00:29:48,429 --> 00:29:49,594 >> EXACTLY. NO ONE KNOWS THIS. 1096 00:29:49,594 --> 00:29:50,759 NO ONE KNOWS THIS. >> BUT BARON COHEN HAD BEEN 1097 00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:51,957 >> BUT BARON COHEN HAD BEEN EXPERIMENTING WITH A VERSION OF 1098 00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:52,957 EXPERIMENTING WITH A VERSION OF THE CHARACTER WHO WOULD BECOME 1099 00:29:52,957 --> 00:29:54,198 THE CHARACTER WHO WOULD BECOME ALI G FOR YEARS. 1100 00:29:54,198 --> 00:29:57,099 ALI G FOR YEARS. >> YO, WHAT’S UP HOMIE, THIS IS 1101 00:29:57,099 --> 00:29:58,627 >> YO, WHAT’S UP HOMIE, THIS IS MC JOCELYN CHEADLE-HUME MAKING 1102 00:29:58,627 --> 00:30:00,462 MC JOCELYN CHEADLE-HUME MAKING IT REAL. 1103 00:30:00,462 --> 00:30:01,429 IT REAL. >> HE WAS THIS UPPER-CLASS KID 1104 00:30:01,429 --> 00:30:02,495 >> HE WAS THIS UPPER-CLASS KID WHO DID ALL THE SAME 1105 00:30:02,495 --> 00:30:04,429 WHO DID ALL THE SAME CATCHPHRASES AS ALI G. BOOYAKA. 1106 00:30:04,429 --> 00:30:05,330 CATCHPHRASES AS ALI G. BOOYAKA. BUT HE WAS UPPER CLASS. 1107 00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:08,825 BUT HE WAS UPPER CLASS. SO IT WAS, "BOOYAKA BOOYAKA, 1108 00:30:08,825 --> 00:30:11,297 SO IT WAS, "BOOYAKA BOOYAKA, YOU KNOW, JUNGLIST MASSIVE." 1109 00:30:11,297 --> 00:30:12,594 YOU KNOW, JUNGLIST MASSIVE." >> BARON COHEN TOOK HIS 1110 00:30:12,594 --> 00:30:13,561 >> BARON COHEN TOOK HIS PROTOTYPE OF ALI G FOR A TEST 1111 00:30:13,561 --> 00:30:14,693 PROTOTYPE OF ALI G FOR A TEST DRIVE AMONG THE SKATEBOARDERS 1112 00:30:14,693 --> 00:30:15,957 DRIVE AMONG THE SKATEBOARDERS OF LONDON, WITH THE INTENTION 1113 00:30:15,957 --> 00:30:17,033 OF LONDON, WITH THE INTENTION OF AIRING THE SKETCH ON A YOUTH 1114 00:30:17,033 --> 00:30:18,066 OF AIRING THE SKETCH ON A YOUTH CULTURE SHOW HE WAS HOSTING ON 1115 00:30:18,066 --> 00:30:18,627 CULTURE SHOW HE WAS HOSTING ON CABLE. 1116 00:30:18,627 --> 00:30:19,594 CABLE. >> AND I START SKATEBOARDING 1117 00:30:19,594 --> 00:30:20,495 >> AND I START SKATEBOARDING TERRIBLY. 1118 00:30:20,495 --> 00:30:22,594 TERRIBLY. AND THEY GO, "YOU’RE -- YOU’RE 1119 00:30:22,594 --> 00:30:24,396 AND THEY GO, "YOU’RE -- YOU’RE CRAP, MAN. 1120 00:30:24,396 --> 00:30:25,396 CRAP, MAN. YOU’RE WHACK." 1121 00:30:25,396 --> 00:30:26,528 YOU’RE WHACK." AFTER ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, I 1122 00:30:26,528 --> 00:30:27,561 AFTER ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, I WENT BACK TO MY REAL VOICE. 1123 00:30:27,561 --> 00:30:30,726 WENT BACK TO MY REAL VOICE. I SAID, "GUYS, I’M PRETENDING. 1124 00:30:30,726 --> 00:30:31,891 I SAID, "GUYS, I’M PRETENDING. THIS IS -- THIS IS A 1125 00:30:31,891 --> 00:30:32,825 THIS IS -- THIS IS A CHARACTER." 1126 00:30:32,825 --> 00:30:33,891 CHARACTER." THEY WERE SHOCKED. 1127 00:30:33,891 --> 00:30:35,033 THEY WERE SHOCKED. AT THE END OF THE HOUR, I GET 1128 00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:35,957 AT THE END OF THE HOUR, I GET CALLED BY THE HEAD BOSS. 1129 00:30:35,957 --> 00:30:37,264 CALLED BY THE HEAD BOSS. HE SAYS, "IF YOU TRY THAT 1130 00:30:37,264 --> 00:30:39,066 HE SAYS, "IF YOU TRY THAT AGAIN, YOU’RE FIRED." 1131 00:30:39,066 --> 00:30:41,396 AGAIN, YOU’RE FIRED." >> Reporter: OH, WOW. 1132 00:30:41,396 --> 00:30:42,594 >> Reporter: OH, WOW. >> AND THEN I KNEW I WAS ONTO 1133 00:30:42,594 --> 00:30:43,693 >> AND THEN I KNEW I WAS ONTO SOMETHING. 1134 00:30:43,693 --> 00:30:44,792 SOMETHING. >> THAT SOMETHING WAS HONED 1135 00:30:44,792 --> 00:30:45,924 >> THAT SOMETHING WAS HONED INTO THE CHARACTER MILLIONS 1136 00:30:45,924 --> 00:30:47,264 INTO THE CHARACTER MILLIONS HAVE COME TO KNOW AS ALI G, A 1137 00:30:47,264 --> 00:30:48,627 HAVE COME TO KNOW AS ALI G, A WHITE IMBECILE AND HIP-HOP 1138 00:30:48,627 --> 00:30:50,033 WHITE IMBECILE AND HIP-HOP JOURNALIST WHO WANTS TO BE A 1139 00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:51,297 JOURNALIST WHO WANTS TO BE A BLACK RAPPER, AND WHOSE DEBUT 1140 00:30:51,297 --> 00:30:55,363 BLACK RAPPER, AND WHOSE DEBUT ON A SATIRICAL LATE-NIGHT TALK 1141 00:30:55,363 --> 00:30:56,330 ON A SATIRICAL LATE-NIGHT TALK SHOW IN 1998 WAS THE 1142 00:30:56,330 --> 00:30:58,396 SHOW IN 1998 WAS THE STEPPINGSTONE TO DA ALI G SHOW, 1143 00:30:58,396 --> 00:30:59,561 STEPPINGSTONE TO DA ALI G SHOW, A SMASH HIT IN THE UK THAT 1144 00:30:59,561 --> 00:31:00,528 A SMASH HIT IN THE UK THAT SPAWNED AN HBO SERIES AND A 1145 00:31:00,528 --> 00:31:04,825 SPAWNED AN HBO SERIES AND A FEATURE FILM. 1146 00:31:04,825 --> 00:31:06,495 FEATURE FILM. >> SO THE CORE IDEA OF ALI G 1147 00:31:06,495 --> 00:31:10,132 >> SO THE CORE IDEA OF ALI G WAS, I THOUGHT, "WOULD IT BE 1148 00:31:10,132 --> 00:31:11,198 WAS, I THOUGHT, "WOULD IT BE FUNNY TO HAVE THE WORLD EXPERT 1149 00:31:11,198 --> 00:31:12,165 FUNNY TO HAVE THE WORLD EXPERT IN SOMETHING WITH THE BIGGEST 1150 00:31:12,165 --> 00:31:14,957 IN SOMETHING WITH THE BIGGEST IDIOT IN THE WORLD, YOU KNOW? 1151 00:31:14,957 --> 00:31:16,330 IDIOT IN THE WORLD, YOU KNOW? WOULD THAT JUXTAPOSITION BE 1152 00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:17,957 WOULD THAT JUXTAPOSITION BE REALLY FUNNY IF THE WORLD 1153 00:31:17,957 --> 00:31:19,825 REALLY FUNNY IF THE WORLD EXPERT TAKES IT SERIOUSLY?" 1154 00:31:19,825 --> 00:31:20,759 EXPERT TAKES IT SERIOUSLY?" >> Reporter: RIGHT. 1155 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:24,132 >> Reporter: RIGHT. AND APPARENTLY YES. 1156 00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:25,000 AND APPARENTLY YES. >> BARON COHEN WENT ON TO 1157 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,792 >> BARON COHEN WENT ON TO UNLEASH ALI G ON DOZENS OF 1158 00:31:25,792 --> 00:31:26,858 UNLEASH ALI G ON DOZENS OF CREDULOUS AUTHORITIES. 1159 00:31:26,858 --> 00:31:28,264 CREDULOUS AUTHORITIES. >> IS IT BECAUSE I IS BLACK? 1160 00:31:28,264 --> 00:31:32,957 >> IS IT BECAUSE I IS BLACK? >> YOU’RE BLACK? 1161 00:31:32,957 --> 00:31:34,066 >> YOU’RE BLACK? >> I GOT SOME BUSINESS IDEA 1162 00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:34,924 >> I GOT SOME BUSINESS IDEA THAT I WANNA TO TELL YOU ABOUT. 1163 00:31:34,924 --> 00:31:36,099 THAT I WANNA TO TELL YOU ABOUT. I’D BE A FOOL IF -- 1164 00:31:36,099 --> 00:31:39,924 I’D BE A FOOL IF -- >> VERY QUICKLY. 1165 00:31:39,924 --> 00:31:41,099 >> VERY QUICKLY. >> CASE IN POINT, THE FORMER 1166 00:31:41,099 --> 00:31:41,957 >> CASE IN POINT, THE FORMER SURGEON GENERAL OF THE UNITED 1167 00:31:41,957 --> 00:31:45,858 SURGEON GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, C. EVERETT KOOP. 1168 00:31:45,858 --> 00:31:47,330 STATES, C. EVERETT KOOP. >> I KEPT ON TELLING HIM THESE 1169 00:31:47,330 --> 00:31:50,231 >> I KEPT ON TELLING HIM THESE STUPID QUESTIONS, LIKE, YOU 1170 00:31:50,231 --> 00:31:51,594 STUPID QUESTIONS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, "AIN’T THE HEART A BIT 1171 00:31:51,594 --> 00:31:53,033 KNOW, "AIN’T THE HEART A BIT CRAP, YOU KNOW? 1172 00:31:53,033 --> 00:31:54,198 CRAP, YOU KNOW? DON’T -- SHOULDN’T IT HAVE A 1173 00:31:54,198 --> 00:31:55,066 DON’T -- SHOULDN’T IT HAVE A DIFFERENT RHYTHM ’CAUSE AT THE 1174 00:31:55,066 --> 00:31:57,396 DIFFERENT RHYTHM ’CAUSE AT THE MOMENT, IT’S BOOM-BOOM, BUT 1175 00:31:57,396 --> 00:31:58,033 MOMENT, IT’S BOOM-BOOM, BUT WHAT ABOUT A -- 1176 00:31:58,033 --> 00:31:59,726 WHAT ABOUT A -- >> [ BEAT BOXING ] 1177 00:31:59,726 --> 00:32:00,726 >> [ BEAT BOXING ] >> THEN THEY’D LOOK AFTER IT 1178 00:32:00,726 --> 00:32:03,759 >> THEN THEY’D LOOK AFTER IT AND GO, YO, THIS IS ME HEART. 1179 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:04,726 AND GO, YO, THIS IS ME HEART. RESPECT IT. 1180 00:32:04,726 --> 00:32:06,264 RESPECT IT. >> NO, YOU’RE WAY OFF BASE 1181 00:32:06,264 --> 00:32:07,033 >> NO, YOU’RE WAY OFF BASE THERE. 1182 00:32:07,033 --> 00:32:08,099 THERE. >> Reporter: SO ALI. 1183 00:32:08,099 --> 00:32:09,396 >> Reporter: SO ALI. >> NOW, AFTER MORE THAN 20 1184 00:32:09,396 --> 00:32:11,396 >> NOW, AFTER MORE THAN 20 YEARS IN REMISSION, ALI G IS 1185 00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:12,231 YEARS IN REMISSION, ALI G IS BACK. 1186 00:32:12,231 --> 00:32:15,396 BACK. >> YO, WELL, WE IS HERE NOW. 1187 00:32:15,396 --> 00:32:16,396 >> YO, WELL, WE IS HERE NOW. THIS IS CALLED BUCKINGHAM 1188 00:32:16,396 --> 00:32:20,495 THIS IS CALLED BUCKINGHAM PHALLUS, AND PEOPLE FROM AROUND 1189 00:32:20,495 --> 00:32:21,462 PHALLUS, AND PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD COME HERE TO TAKE 1190 00:32:21,462 --> 00:32:22,363 THE WORLD COME HERE TO TAKE PHOTOS AND TO WAIT AND GET 1191 00:32:22,363 --> 00:32:25,000 PHOTOS AND TO WAIT AND GET BONED BY PRINCE EDWARD. 1192 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,099 BONED BY PRINCE EDWARD. >> Reporter: LIKE, IF I PLAY MY 1193 00:32:26,099 --> 00:32:28,132 >> Reporter: LIKE, IF I PLAY MY CARDS RIGHT, THAT COULD BE ME. 1194 00:32:28,132 --> 00:32:29,000 CARDS RIGHT, THAT COULD BE ME. >> HOW OLD IS YOU? 1195 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,297 >> HOW OLD IS YOU? >> Reporter: 52. 1196 00:32:31,297 --> 00:32:32,462 >> Reporter: 52. >> NO. 1197 00:32:32,462 --> 00:32:33,660 >> NO. EVEN IF YOU SWITCH THOSE 1198 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:35,033 EVEN IF YOU SWITCH THOSE NUMBERS AROUND, THAT AIN’T 1199 00:32:35,033 --> 00:32:36,462 NUMBERS AROUND, THAT AIN’T GONNA WORK. 1200 00:32:36,462 --> 00:32:41,099 GONNA WORK. >> OH, UP THERE IS BIG BEN. 1201 00:32:41,099 --> 00:32:42,000 >> OH, UP THERE IS BIG BEN. >> WE WENT ALONG AS ALI G 1202 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,033 >> WE WENT ALONG AS ALI G COMMANDEERED A DOUBLE-DECKER 1203 00:32:43,033 --> 00:32:44,066 COMMANDEERED A DOUBLE-DECKER BUS AND TOOK US TO SEE HIS 1204 00:32:44,066 --> 00:32:45,264 BUS AND TOOK US TO SEE HIS VERSION OF THE LONDON 1205 00:32:45,264 --> 00:32:47,462 VERSION OF THE LONDON LANDMARKS. 1206 00:32:47,462 --> 00:32:51,297 LANDMARKS. >> THE BIG HAND IS ON THE I-I, 1207 00:32:51,297 --> 00:32:52,297 >> THE BIG HAND IS ON THE I-I, AND THE LITTLE HAND IS ON THE I- 1208 00:32:52,297 --> 00:32:56,099 AND THE LITTLE HAND IS ON THE I- I-I. 1209 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:57,033 I-I. >> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL LIKE 1210 00:32:57,033 --> 00:32:57,957 >> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU BRING ANY ELEMENT OF YOUR 1211 00:32:57,957 --> 00:32:58,858 YOU BRING ANY ELEMENT OF YOUR ACTUAL SELF TO SOME OF THE 1212 00:32:58,858 --> 00:32:59,924 ACTUAL SELF TO SOME OF THE CHARACTERS? 1213 00:32:59,924 --> 00:33:00,792 CHARACTERS? >> IF I KNEW WHO I WAS, THEN I 1214 00:33:00,792 --> 00:33:08,099 >> IF I KNEW WHO I WAS, THEN I COULD ANSWER THAT. 1215 00:33:08,099 --> 00:33:09,231 COULD ANSWER THAT. BUT I DON’T KNOW. 1216 00:33:09,231 --> 00:33:11,363 BUT I DON’T KNOW. I MEAN, ALI G DEFINITELY, 1217 00:33:11,363 --> 00:33:12,528 I MEAN, ALI G DEFINITELY, BECAUSE IN A WAY, AT THE AGE OF 1218 00:33:12,528 --> 00:33:15,759 BECAUSE IN A WAY, AT THE AGE OF 11, I WAS AN ALI G OF SORTS. 1219 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:16,957 11, I WAS AN ALI G OF SORTS. >> THE YOUNGEST OF THREE BOYS, 1220 00:33:16,957 --> 00:33:18,066 >> THE YOUNGEST OF THREE BOYS, BARON COHEN GREW UP IN 1221 00:33:18,066 --> 00:33:19,132 BARON COHEN GREW UP IN NORTHWEST LONDON THE SON OF A 1222 00:33:19,132 --> 00:33:20,099 NORTHWEST LONDON THE SON OF A FITNESS INSTRUCTOR AND AN 1223 00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:21,066 FITNESS INSTRUCTOR AND AN ACCOUNTANT. 1224 00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:22,165 ACCOUNTANT. >> MY MOM WAS HILARIOUS, BUT 1225 00:33:22,165 --> 00:33:24,891 >> MY MOM WAS HILARIOUS, BUT PROBABLY NOT INTENTIONALLY SO. 1226 00:33:24,891 --> 00:33:26,132 PROBABLY NOT INTENTIONALLY SO. >> Reporter: LIKE, CAN YOU GIVE 1227 00:33:26,132 --> 00:33:26,858 >> Reporter: LIKE, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE? 1228 00:33:26,858 --> 00:33:28,231 ME AN EXAMPLE? >> WELL, SHE HAS A VOICE LIKE 1229 00:33:28,231 --> 00:33:28,957 >> WELL, SHE HAS A VOICE LIKE THIS. 1230 00:33:28,957 --> 00:33:35,033 THIS. SORRY, IF YOU’RE WATCHING THIS. 1231 00:33:35,033 --> 00:33:36,033 SORRY, IF YOU’RE WATCHING THIS. AND SHE HAD SUCH A DISTINCT 1232 00:33:36,033 --> 00:33:37,561 AND SHE HAD SUCH A DISTINCT VOICE THAT EVERYONE IN MY HIGH 1233 00:33:37,561 --> 00:33:39,033 VOICE THAT EVERYONE IN MY HIGH SCHOOL COULD IMITATE IT. 1234 00:33:39,033 --> 00:33:41,231 SCHOOL COULD IMITATE IT. SO EVERYONE WOULD GO, "SACHA, 1235 00:33:41,231 --> 00:33:42,528 SO EVERYONE WOULD GO, "SACHA, TELEPHONE." 1236 00:33:42,528 --> 00:33:43,462 TELEPHONE." BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SHE WOULD 1237 00:33:43,462 --> 00:33:45,891 BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SHE WOULD SAY WHEN PEOPLE WOULD CALL ME. 1238 00:33:45,891 --> 00:33:47,264 SAY WHEN PEOPLE WOULD CALL ME. >> HE HAD A PASSION FOR 1239 00:33:47,264 --> 00:33:48,561 >> HE HAD A PASSION FOR BREAKDANCING AND EARLY HIP HOP, 1240 00:33:48,561 --> 00:33:49,660 BREAKDANCING AND EARLY HIP HOP, EVEN PROVIDING THE 1241 00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:50,660 EVEN PROVIDING THE ENTERTAINMENT FOR HIS OWN BAR 1242 00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:53,924 ENTERTAINMENT FOR HIS OWN BAR MITZVAH. 1243 00:33:53,924 --> 00:33:55,297 MITZVAH. HE WENT ON TO STUDY HISTORY AT 1244 00:33:55,297 --> 00:33:56,561 HE WENT ON TO STUDY HISTORY AT CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY, WHERE 1245 00:33:56,561 --> 00:33:57,660 CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY, WHERE BARON COHEN DISCOVERED THE 1246 00:33:57,660 --> 00:33:58,825 BARON COHEN DISCOVERED THE STAGE. 1247 00:33:58,825 --> 00:34:00,198 STAGE. >> I REALIZED I LOVED MAKING 1248 00:34:00,198 --> 00:34:01,594 >> I REALIZED I LOVED MAKING PEOPLE LAUGH, BUT I ALSO REALLY 1249 00:34:01,594 --> 00:34:04,429 PEOPLE LAUGH, BUT I ALSO REALLY LIKED MAKING THEM CRY ONSTAGE. 1250 00:34:04,429 --> 00:34:05,363 LIKED MAKING THEM CRY ONSTAGE. >> Reporter: YOU LIKE TO GIVE 1251 00:34:05,363 --> 00:34:06,429 >> Reporter: YOU LIKE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE FULL EMOTIONAL 1252 00:34:06,429 --> 00:34:07,495 PEOPLE THE FULL EMOTIONAL WORKOUT. 1253 00:34:07,495 --> 00:34:08,495 WORKOUT. >> I WANNA GIVE THEM THEIR, 1254 00:34:08,495 --> 00:34:10,462 >> I WANNA GIVE THEM THEIR, YEAH, BANG FOR THEIR BUCK. 1255 00:34:10,462 --> 00:34:11,561 YEAH, BANG FOR THEIR BUCK. I REALLY DO. 1256 00:34:11,561 --> 00:34:12,561 I REALLY DO. I DO. 1257 00:34:12,561 --> 00:34:13,594 I DO. >> Reporter: HOW DO YOUR 1258 00:34:13,594 --> 00:34:14,660 >> Reporter: HOW DO YOUR PARENTS REACT WHEN YOU FINISH 1259 00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:15,693 PARENTS REACT WHEN YOU FINISH CAMBRIDGE AND YOU SAY, I THINK 1260 00:34:15,693 --> 00:34:16,660 CAMBRIDGE AND YOU SAY, I THINK I WANNA BE A ACTOR? 1261 00:34:16,660 --> 00:34:17,594 I WANNA BE A ACTOR? >> THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A 1262 00:34:17,594 --> 00:34:18,660 >> THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A RIDICULOUS IDEA. 1263 00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:19,693 RIDICULOUS IDEA. IT WAS JUST AN IMPOSSIBILITY. 1264 00:34:19,693 --> 00:34:20,891 IT WAS JUST AN IMPOSSIBILITY. THEY WERE RIGHT. 1265 00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:21,924 THEY WERE RIGHT. THEY WERE ACTUALLY CORRECT. 1266 00:34:21,924 --> 00:34:24,000 THEY WERE ACTUALLY CORRECT. >> Reporter: WELL, NO. 1267 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,957 >> Reporter: WELL, NO. >> WELL, IT WAS SO -- IT 1268 00:34:25,957 --> 00:34:26,825 >> WELL, IT WAS SO -- IT WOULD’VE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE FOR 1269 00:34:26,825 --> 00:34:28,000 WOULD’VE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THEM TO SUPPORT ME, BECAUSE THE 1270 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,132 THEM TO SUPPORT ME, BECAUSE THE LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS WAS -- 1271 00:34:30,132 --> 00:34:31,231 LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS WAS -- SEEMED IMPOSSIBLE. 1272 00:34:31,231 --> 00:34:32,297 SEEMED IMPOSSIBLE. >> HE PURSUED HIS GOAL BY 1273 00:34:32,297 --> 00:34:33,462 >> HE PURSUED HIS GOAL BY STUDYING WITH THE STANISLAVSKI 1274 00:34:33,462 --> 00:34:35,330 STUDYING WITH THE STANISLAVSKI OF CLOWNS, A MAN NAMED PHILIPPE 1275 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:39,429 OF CLOWNS, A MAN NAMED PHILIPPE GAULIER. 1276 00:34:39,429 --> 00:34:40,264 GAULIER. >> HIS IDEA OF IDEA OF CLOWN 1277 00:34:40,264 --> 00:34:41,264 >> HIS IDEA OF IDEA OF CLOWN WAS THE STUPIDEST CREATURE THAT 1278 00:34:41,264 --> 00:34:42,066 WAS THE STUPIDEST CREATURE THAT CAN EVER BE ON STAGE. 1279 00:34:42,066 --> 00:34:43,429 CAN EVER BE ON STAGE. HE USED TO SAY, "MORE STUPID 1280 00:34:43,429 --> 00:34:45,198 HE USED TO SAY, "MORE STUPID THAN THIS, AND YOU DIE." 1281 00:34:45,198 --> 00:34:46,198 THAN THIS, AND YOU DIE." SORRY FOR THE CULTURAL 1282 00:34:46,198 --> 00:34:47,132 SORRY FOR THE CULTURAL APPROPRIATION OF THE FRENCH 1283 00:34:47,132 --> 00:34:48,297 APPROPRIATION OF THE FRENCH ACCENT. 1284 00:34:48,297 --> 00:34:49,297 ACCENT. >> Reporter: AND WHAT’D YOU 1285 00:34:49,297 --> 00:34:50,462 >> Reporter: AND WHAT’D YOU LEARN? 1286 00:34:50,462 --> 00:34:51,297 LEARN? >> EVERYTHING. 1287 00:34:51,297 --> 00:34:52,363 >> EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. 1288 00:34:52,363 --> 00:34:55,033 EVERYTHING. HE WAS MY MENTOR. 1289 00:34:55,033 --> 00:34:56,066 HE WAS MY MENTOR. >> AND BARON COHEN BROUGHT IT 1290 00:34:56,066 --> 00:34:57,726 >> AND BARON COHEN BROUGHT IT ALL TO BORAT. 1291 00:34:57,726 --> 00:35:02,099 ALL TO BORAT. THE BELOVED, BUMBLING ANTI- 1292 00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:03,165 THE BELOVED, BUMBLING ANTI- SEMITE, KAZAKH REPORTER WHO 1293 00:35:03,165 --> 00:35:04,132 SEMITE, KAZAKH REPORTER WHO MADE HIS GRAND ENTRANCE TOURING 1294 00:35:04,132 --> 00:35:05,528 MADE HIS GRAND ENTRANCE TOURING AMERICA IN 2006. 1295 00:35:05,528 --> 00:35:06,363 AMERICA IN 2006. >> Reporter: WE’RE ACTUALLY 1296 00:35:06,363 --> 00:35:07,561 >> Reporter: WE’RE ACTUALLY LIVE ON THE AIR RIGHT NOW. 1297 00:35:07,561 --> 00:35:09,561 LIVE ON THE AIR RIGHT NOW. >> I’M VERY EXCITE! 1298 00:35:09,561 --> 00:35:11,858 >> I’M VERY EXCITE! HALLO U-S-AND-A! HALLO U-S-AND- 1299 00:35:11,858 --> 00:35:14,924 HALLO U-S-AND-A! HALLO U-S-AND- A! I’M VERY EXCITE! 1300 00:35:14,924 --> 00:35:15,891 A! I’M VERY EXCITE! >> Reporter: SO WHEN YOU’RE 1301 00:35:15,891 --> 00:35:17,000 >> Reporter: SO WHEN YOU’RE MAKING BORAT, OBVIOUSLY YOU 1302 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,627 MAKING BORAT, OBVIOUSLY YOU METICULOUSLY PLAN AHEAD. 1303 00:35:18,627 --> 00:35:19,858 METICULOUSLY PLAN AHEAD. >> YEAH. 1304 00:35:19,858 --> 00:35:22,132 >> YEAH. >> Reporter: AND, YOU KNOW, 1305 00:35:22,132 --> 00:35:23,264 >> Reporter: AND, YOU KNOW, IT’S NOT LIKE YOU AND YOUR 1306 00:35:23,264 --> 00:35:24,396 IT’S NOT LIKE YOU AND YOUR MERRY BAND OF PRODUCERS IS JUST 1307 00:35:24,396 --> 00:35:29,693 MERRY BAND OF PRODUCERS IS JUST GOING INTO ANTIQUE STORES. 1308 00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:30,957 GOING INTO ANTIQUE STORES. >> THERE’S A HUGE AMOUNT OF 1309 00:35:30,957 --> 00:35:32,198 >> THERE’S A HUGE AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT YOU DON’T SEE, WHICH 1310 00:35:32,198 --> 00:35:33,132 STUFF THAT YOU DON’T SEE, WHICH IS US BEHIND THE SCENES LOOKING 1311 00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,561 IS US BEHIND THE SCENES LOOKING AT WHO WE ARE INTERVIEWING, 1312 00:35:34,561 --> 00:35:37,627 AT WHO WE ARE INTERVIEWING, GOING, "THEY -- NOT THEM. 1313 00:35:37,627 --> 00:35:41,264 GOING, "THEY -- NOT THEM. NOT THEM." 1314 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:42,066 NOT THEM." >> WHO IS THIS LADY YOU HAVE 1315 00:35:42,066 --> 00:35:43,693 >> WHO IS THIS LADY YOU HAVE SHRUNK? 1316 00:35:43,693 --> 00:35:44,924 SHRUNK? WAS SHE THE OWNER OF THIS HOUSE 1317 00:35:44,924 --> 00:35:47,594 WAS SHE THE OWNER OF THIS HOUSE THAT YOU CAMP IN FRONT OF? 1318 00:35:47,594 --> 00:35:48,528 THAT YOU CAMP IN FRONT OF? >> THE MOVIE WAS BOTH 1319 00:35:48,528 --> 00:35:49,924 >> THE MOVIE WAS BOTH HYSTERICAL AND REVEALING, AN 1320 00:35:49,924 --> 00:35:52,132 HYSTERICAL AND REVEALING, AN EXPERIMENT, HE SAYS, WHERE 1321 00:35:52,132 --> 00:35:53,066 EXPERIMENT, HE SAYS, WHERE INTERACTIONS WITH REAL PEOPLE 1322 00:35:53,066 --> 00:35:54,561 INTERACTIONS WITH REAL PEOPLE MOVE THE PLOT FORWARD. 1323 00:35:54,561 --> 00:35:55,924 MOVE THE PLOT FORWARD. WHAT’S MORE, BORAT MADE $260 1324 00:35:55,924 --> 00:36:00,297 WHAT’S MORE, BORAT MADE $260 MILLION. 1325 00:36:00,297 --> 00:36:03,429 MILLION. >> YOU KNOW, BORAT IS, AGAIN, A 1326 00:36:03,429 --> 00:36:06,957 >> YOU KNOW, BORAT IS, AGAIN, A FUNNY CHARACTER, BUT ALSO TO -- 1327 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:08,363 FUNNY CHARACTER, BUT ALSO TO -- HE ALSO SHOWS THE KINDNESS OF 1328 00:36:08,363 --> 00:36:12,033 HE ALSO SHOWS THE KINDNESS OF PEOPLE AS WELL, WHO ARE SO NICE 1329 00:36:12,033 --> 00:36:14,363 PEOPLE AS WELL, WHO ARE SO NICE TO HIM, BUT ALSO CAN EXPOSE, 1330 00:36:14,363 --> 00:36:16,000 TO HIM, BUT ALSO CAN EXPOSE, YOU KNOW, THE LAYER OF HATE AND 1331 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,033 YOU KNOW, THE LAYER OF HATE AND BIGOTRY BELOW THE SURFACE THAT 1332 00:36:17,033 --> 00:36:18,528 BIGOTRY BELOW THE SURFACE THAT PEOPLE NORMALLY WOULDN’T GO ON 1333 00:36:18,528 --> 00:36:23,198 PEOPLE NORMALLY WOULDN’T GO ON AIR AND -- AND SHOW. 1334 00:36:23,198 --> 00:36:24,198 AIR AND -- AND SHOW. >> BARON COHEN’S UNDERCOVER 1335 00:36:24,198 --> 00:36:25,099 >> BARON COHEN’S UNDERCOVER COMEDY VENTURES INTO MORALLY 1336 00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:26,099 COMEDY VENTURES INTO MORALLY COMPLEX TERRITORY, IN MANY 1337 00:36:26,099 --> 00:36:29,594 COMPLEX TERRITORY, IN MANY CASES, HIS INCOGNITO ENCOUNTERS 1338 00:36:29,594 --> 00:36:30,693 CASES, HIS INCOGNITO ENCOUNTERS WITH UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE CREATE 1339 00:36:30,693 --> 00:36:31,495 WITH UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE CREATE AN ETHICALLY QUESTIONABLE 1340 00:36:31,495 --> 00:36:33,561 AN ETHICALLY QUESTIONABLE BARGAIN: THE WORSE THEY LOOK, 1341 00:36:33,561 --> 00:36:34,396 BARGAIN: THE WORSE THEY LOOK, THE BETTER IT IS FOR HIM. 1342 00:36:34,396 --> 00:36:40,495 THE BETTER IT IS FOR HIM. >> COME ON, MAKE MY DAY. 1343 00:36:40,495 --> 00:36:42,165 >> COME ON, MAKE MY DAY. >> Reporter: I GUESS WHAT I 1344 00:36:42,165 --> 00:36:45,297 >> Reporter: I GUESS WHAT I WONDER IS, HAVE YOU FELT 1345 00:36:45,297 --> 00:36:47,165 WONDER IS, HAVE YOU FELT CONFLICTED OR GUILTY ABOUT 1346 00:36:47,165 --> 00:36:48,132 CONFLICTED OR GUILTY ABOUT BAITING SOMEONE INTO MAKING A 1347 00:36:48,132 --> 00:36:52,363 BAITING SOMEONE INTO MAKING A COMPLETE FOOL OF THEMSELVES? 1348 00:36:52,363 --> 00:36:54,792 COMPLETE FOOL OF THEMSELVES? >> OKAY, WELL, I THINK A LOT OF 1349 00:36:54,792 --> 00:36:56,099 >> OKAY, WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THE TIMES THEY’RE NOT MAKING 1350 00:36:56,099 --> 00:36:57,759 THE TIMES THEY’RE NOT MAKING FOOLS OF THEMSELVES. 1351 00:36:57,759 --> 00:36:58,825 FOOLS OF THEMSELVES. I THINK A LOT OF THOSE IN THE 1352 00:36:58,825 --> 00:36:59,957 I THINK A LOT OF THOSE IN THE ALI G INTERVIEWS THEY COME 1353 00:36:59,957 --> 00:37:02,561 ALI G INTERVIEWS THEY COME ACROSS WELL, ACTUALLY. 1354 00:37:02,561 --> 00:37:05,693 ACROSS WELL, ACTUALLY. I THINK THE SAME WITH BORAT. 1355 00:37:05,693 --> 00:37:06,825 I THINK THE SAME WITH BORAT. >> THE ENCORE TO BORAT WAS 1356 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,561 >> THE ENCORE TO BORAT WAS BRUNO, 1357 00:37:09,561 --> 00:37:16,033 BRUNO, >> WHAT’S UP, I’M BRUNO. 1358 00:37:16,033 --> 00:37:16,528 >> WHAT’S UP, I’M BRUNO. >> A FLAMBOYANT FASHION 1359 00:37:16,528 --> 00:37:17,297 >> A FLAMBOYANT FASHION REPORTER WHO WANTED TO BECOME 1360 00:37:17,297 --> 00:37:19,066 REPORTER WHO WANTED TO BECOME THE, QUOTE, "BIGGEST AUSTRIAN 1361 00:37:19,066 --> 00:37:24,033 THE, QUOTE, "BIGGEST AUSTRIAN SUPERSTAR SINCE HITLER." 1362 00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:25,000 SUPERSTAR SINCE HITLER." BARON COHEN SAYS THE MOVIE WAS 1363 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,099 BARON COHEN SAYS THE MOVIE WAS CONCEIVED AS A GAY ROM-COM. 1364 00:37:26,099 --> 00:37:26,957 CONCEIVED AS A GAY ROM-COM. AND ROM COMS NEED TO END WITH A 1365 00:37:26,957 --> 00:37:28,165 AND ROM COMS NEED TO END WITH A KISS, USUALLY IN A SETTING 1366 00:37:28,165 --> 00:37:29,528 KISS, USUALLY IN A SETTING THAT’S SCENIC AND SENTIMENTAL. 1367 00:37:29,528 --> 00:37:30,792 THAT’S SCENIC AND SENTIMENTAL. >> INSTEAD OF THAT, WE DID IT 1368 00:37:30,792 --> 00:37:31,825 >> INSTEAD OF THAT, WE DID IT IN A CAGE MATCH AND IT WAS ME 1369 00:37:31,825 --> 00:37:32,924 IN A CAGE MATCH AND IT WAS ME AND MY LOVE INTEREST, AND WE 1370 00:37:32,924 --> 00:37:38,264 AND MY LOVE INTEREST, AND WE KISS. 1371 00:37:38,264 --> 00:37:39,132 KISS. AND WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WOULD 1372 00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:40,297 AND WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE CROWD. 1373 00:37:40,297 --> 00:37:41,462 HAPPEN WITH THE CROWD. WOULD THEY BECOME VIOLENT 1374 00:37:41,462 --> 00:37:42,627 WOULD THEY BECOME VIOLENT REALLY? 1375 00:37:42,627 --> 00:37:43,957 REALLY? >> Reporter: NO, IT SEEMED LIKE 1376 00:37:43,957 --> 00:37:45,660 >> Reporter: NO, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WANTED TO KILL YOU. 1377 00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:49,033 THEY WANTED TO KILL YOU. >> YES. 1378 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,165 >> YES. >> Reporter: WHAT’S THE SORT OF 1379 00:37:50,165 --> 00:37:51,132 >> Reporter: WHAT’S THE SORT OF RATIO OF FEAR TO THRILL FOR YOU 1380 00:37:51,132 --> 00:37:52,033 RATIO OF FEAR TO THRILL FOR YOU WHILE THAT’S HAPPENING? 1381 00:37:52,033 --> 00:37:53,066 WHILE THAT’S HAPPENING? HOW MUCH ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT 1382 00:37:53,066 --> 00:37:54,429 HOW MUCH ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT DYING, AND HOW MUCH ARE YOU 1383 00:37:54,429 --> 00:37:57,462 DYING, AND HOW MUCH ARE YOU THINKING, "OH, MY GOD, THIS CAN 1384 00:37:57,462 --> 00:37:59,033 THINKING, "OH, MY GOD, THIS CAN BE THE BEST SCENE"? 1385 00:37:59,033 --> 00:38:00,033 BE THE BEST SCENE"? >> I’M THINKING ABOUT THE SCENE 1386 00:38:00,033 --> 00:38:01,165 >> I’M THINKING ABOUT THE SCENE ALMOST ENTIRELY IN THAT MOMENT. 1387 00:38:01,165 --> 00:38:02,726 ALMOST ENTIRELY IN THAT MOMENT. I MEAN, I CAN REMEMBER IT 1388 00:38:02,726 --> 00:38:05,033 I MEAN, I CAN REMEMBER IT VIVIDLY NOW, YEAH. 1389 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:07,462 VIVIDLY NOW, YEAH. I -- WELL, I REMEMBER LYING 1390 00:38:07,462 --> 00:38:09,231 I -- WELL, I REMEMBER LYING DOWN, AND I’M KISSING HIM, AND 1391 00:38:09,231 --> 00:38:10,132 DOWN, AND I’M KISSING HIM, AND I’M LOOKING AT THE CHAIRS. 1392 00:38:10,132 --> 00:38:11,165 I’M LOOKING AT THE CHAIRS. AND I’M THINKING, "THIS IS 1393 00:38:11,165 --> 00:38:12,066 AND I’M THINKING, "THIS IS GREAT." 1394 00:38:12,066 --> 00:38:13,165 GREAT." >> BARON COHEN’S WORK HAS 1395 00:38:13,165 --> 00:38:14,363 >> BARON COHEN’S WORK HAS EARNED GOLDEN GLOBES AND BAFTA 1396 00:38:14,363 --> 00:38:16,099 EARNED GOLDEN GLOBES AND BAFTA AWARDS, AS WELL AS OSCAR 1397 00:38:16,099 --> 00:38:17,198 AWARDS, AS WELL AS OSCAR NOMINATIONS FOR BORAT AND FOR 1398 00:38:17,198 --> 00:38:18,396 NOMINATIONS FOR BORAT AND FOR HIS DRAMATIC ROLE AS THE ’60s 1399 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:19,396 HIS DRAMATIC ROLE AS THE ’60s ACTIVIST ABBIE HOFFMAN IN THE 1400 00:38:19,396 --> 00:38:21,693 ACTIVIST ABBIE HOFFMAN IN THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO SEVEN. 1401 00:38:21,693 --> 00:38:22,561 TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO SEVEN. >> WE CARRIED CERTAIN IDEAS 1402 00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:27,033 >> WE CARRIED CERTAIN IDEAS ACROSS STATE LINES. 1403 00:38:27,033 --> 00:38:28,726 ACROSS STATE LINES. >> BEFORE THAT, HE PLAYED 1404 00:38:28,726 --> 00:38:29,957 >> BEFORE THAT, HE PLAYED ISRAELI MOSSAD AGENT ELI COHEN 1405 00:38:29,957 --> 00:38:32,495 ISRAELI MOSSAD AGENT ELI COHEN IN A MINI-SERIES CALLED THE SPY 1406 00:38:32,495 --> 00:38:33,396 IN A MINI-SERIES CALLED THE SPY AND STARRED OPPOSITE WILL 1407 00:38:33,396 --> 00:38:34,363 AND STARRED OPPOSITE WILL FERRELL AS THE FRENCH NASCAR 1408 00:38:34,363 --> 00:38:36,132 FERRELL AS THE FRENCH NASCAR DRIVER JEAN GIRARD IN TALLADEGA 1409 00:38:36,132 --> 00:38:38,429 DRIVER JEAN GIRARD IN TALLADEGA NIGHTS. 1410 00:38:38,429 --> 00:38:39,396 NIGHTS. >> I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF 1411 00:38:39,396 --> 00:38:40,561 >> I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF SHOOTING BORAT, AND ON THE 1412 00:38:40,561 --> 00:38:42,429 SHOOTING BORAT, AND ON THE PLANE OVER I THOUGHT, "I NEED 1413 00:38:42,429 --> 00:38:44,099 PLANE OVER I THOUGHT, "I NEED TO DO A FRENCH CHARACTER. 1414 00:38:44,099 --> 00:38:44,825 TO DO A FRENCH CHARACTER. WHY DON’T I DO MY OLD FRENCH 1415 00:38:44,825 --> 00:38:48,528 WHY DON’T I DO MY OLD FRENCH CLOWN TEACHER?" 1416 00:38:48,528 --> 00:38:50,099 CLOWN TEACHER?" SO THAT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW? 1417 00:38:50,099 --> 00:38:51,066 SO THAT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW? "YOU ARE RICKY BOBBY," YOU 1418 00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:51,924 "YOU ARE RICKY BOBBY," YOU KNOW? 1419 00:38:51,924 --> 00:38:53,198 KNOW? >> NICE DOGGY. 1420 00:38:53,198 --> 00:38:53,891 >> NICE DOGGY. I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOUR DOG 1421 00:38:53,891 --> 00:38:55,891 I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOUR DOG DOES NOT BITE. 1422 00:38:55,891 --> 00:39:01,330 DOES NOT BITE. >> THAT IS NOT MY DOG. 1423 00:39:01,330 --> 00:39:02,693 >> THAT IS NOT MY DOG. >> PETER SELLERS, IN ALL HIS 1424 00:39:02,693 --> 00:39:05,429 >> PETER SELLERS, IN ALL HIS ABSURBSITY, FAUX-FRENCHNESS, 1425 00:39:05,429 --> 00:39:06,363 ABSURBSITY, FAUX-FRENCHNESS, AND PHYSICALITY WAS THE FIRST 1426 00:39:06,363 --> 00:39:07,165 AND PHYSICALITY WAS THE FIRST AND REMAINS THE GREATEST 1427 00:39:07,165 --> 00:39:07,957 AND REMAINS THE GREATEST INFLUENCE OF BARON COHEN’S 1428 00:39:07,957 --> 00:39:10,198 INFLUENCE OF BARON COHEN’S CAREER. 1429 00:39:10,198 --> 00:39:11,528 CAREER. >> I MEAN, SELLERS IS STILL MY 1430 00:39:11,528 --> 00:39:13,429 >> I MEAN, SELLERS IS STILL MY FAVORITE COMEDIAN. 1431 00:39:13,429 --> 00:39:14,462 FAVORITE COMEDIAN. >> Reporter: OF ALL TIME? 1432 00:39:14,462 --> 00:39:15,396 >> Reporter: OF ALL TIME? >> YES. 1433 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:17,066 >> YES. YEAH, BECAUSE HE COMPLETELY 1434 00:39:17,066 --> 00:39:19,693 YEAH, BECAUSE HE COMPLETELY INHABITED THE CHARACTER, AND 1435 00:39:19,693 --> 00:39:20,627 INHABITED THE CHARACTER, AND IT’S LAUGH-OUT-LOUD FUNNY. 1436 00:39:20,627 --> 00:39:22,297 IT’S LAUGH-OUT-LOUD FUNNY. AND THEY ARE SILLY VOICES. 1437 00:39:22,297 --> 00:39:23,330 AND THEY ARE SILLY VOICES. >> IN BARON COHEN’S NEW MOVIE, 1438 00:39:23,330 --> 00:39:26,066 >> IN BARON COHEN’S NEW MOVIE, ALI G: WHO IZ I, HIS 1439 00:39:26,066 --> 00:39:27,066 ALI G: WHO IZ I, HIS DIRECTORIAL DEBUT OUT LATER 1440 00:39:27,066 --> 00:39:32,132 DIRECTORIAL DEBUT OUT LATER THIS WEEK, HE PLAYS ALI G, A 1441 00:39:32,132 --> 00:39:33,396 THIS WEEK, HE PLAYS ALI G, A DERANGED LEFTIST PROFESSOR, AND 1442 00:39:33,396 --> 00:39:35,000 DERANGED LEFTIST PROFESSOR, AND A FORMER MOSSAD AGENT, WHO ALL 1443 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,132 A FORMER MOSSAD AGENT, WHO ALL INTERACT WITH UNSUSPECTING 1444 00:39:36,132 --> 00:39:39,231 INTERACT WITH UNSUSPECTING STRANGERS. 1445 00:39:39,231 --> 00:39:40,792 STRANGERS. THE RESULT, DESIGNED TO EXPOSE 1446 00:39:40,792 --> 00:39:41,924 THE RESULT, DESIGNED TO EXPOSE THE EXTREMISM AT BOTH ENDS OF 1447 00:39:41,924 --> 00:39:44,066 THE EXTREMISM AT BOTH ENDS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, IS AS 1448 00:39:44,066 --> 00:39:46,495 THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, IS AS DISTURBING AS IT IS FUNNY. 1449 00:39:46,495 --> 00:39:47,693 DISTURBING AS IT IS FUNNY. >> THESE IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT 1450 00:39:47,693 --> 00:39:49,000 >> THESE IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT COMING HERE TO MOW YOUR LAWN, 1451 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,528 COMING HERE TO MOW YOUR LAWN, TRIM YOUR TREES, RAKE YOUR 1452 00:39:50,528 --> 00:39:52,957 TRIM YOUR TREES, RAKE YOUR LEAVES, CLEAN YOUR HOUSE. 1453 00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:54,033 LEAVES, CLEAN YOUR HOUSE. >> Reporter: DID YOU GO INTO 1454 00:39:54,033 --> 00:39:55,066 >> Reporter: DID YOU GO INTO THIS MOVIE WITH ANY KIND OF 1455 00:39:55,066 --> 00:39:56,165 THIS MOVIE WITH ANY KIND OF QUESTION YOU WANTED TO ANSWER? 1456 00:39:56,165 --> 00:39:57,264 QUESTION YOU WANTED TO ANSWER? >> YES. 1457 00:39:57,264 --> 00:39:59,693 >> YES. I MEAN, NUMBER ONE, I WANTED 1458 00:39:59,693 --> 00:40:01,495 I MEAN, NUMBER ONE, I WANTED THE PEOPLE TO LAUGH REALLY, 1459 00:40:01,495 --> 00:40:05,033 THE PEOPLE TO LAUGH REALLY, REALLY HARD. 1460 00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:06,363 REALLY HARD. AND I WANTED TO ALSO JUST 1461 00:40:06,363 --> 00:40:07,462 AND I WANTED TO ALSO JUST EXAMINE THIS IDEA OF 1462 00:40:07,462 --> 00:40:13,000 EXAMINE THIS IDEA OF CONSPIRACIES AND LIES, WHETHER 1463 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000 CONSPIRACIES AND LIES, WHETHER WE IN A MATTER OF HOURS COULD 1464 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,033 WE IN A MATTER OF HOURS COULD TURN INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO 1465 00:40:15,033 --> 00:40:16,033 TURN INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED IN THE THEORY OF RACE 1466 00:40:16,033 --> 00:40:18,363 BELIEVED IN THE THEORY OF RACE REPLACEMENT INTO MURDERERS. 1467 00:40:18,363 --> 00:40:19,594 REPLACEMENT INTO MURDERERS. DOESN’T SOUND THAT FUNNY? 1468 00:40:19,594 --> 00:40:20,660 DOESN’T SOUND THAT FUNNY? THERE’S LOADS OF LAUGHS IN THE 1469 00:40:20,660 --> 00:40:21,759 THERE’S LOADS OF LAUGHS IN THE MOVIE AS WELL. 1470 00:40:21,759 --> 00:40:23,099 MOVIE AS WELL. >> THE SCALE OF THE CHALLENGE 1471 00:40:23,099 --> 00:40:24,033 >> THE SCALE OF THE CHALLENGE WAS UNLIKE ANYTHING BARON COHEN 1472 00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:26,660 WAS UNLIKE ANYTHING BARON COHEN HAD UNDERTAKEN BEFORE. 1473 00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:28,858 HAD UNDERTAKEN BEFORE. >> WE HAD TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 1474 00:40:28,858 --> 00:40:29,792 >> WE HAD TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PROSTHETIC TEAMS WORKING ON 1475 00:40:29,792 --> 00:40:32,594 PROSTHETIC TEAMS WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS. 1476 00:40:32,594 --> 00:40:33,792 THIS FOR YEARS. WE HAD ANIMATRONIC TEAMS. 1477 00:40:33,792 --> 00:40:34,891 WE HAD ANIMATRONIC TEAMS. THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS 1478 00:40:34,891 --> 00:40:36,000 THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG, 1479 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,033 OF THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG, AND EACH OF THEM HAS TO GO 1480 00:40:37,033 --> 00:40:39,066 AND EACH OF THEM HAS TO GO RIGHT. 1481 00:40:39,066 --> 00:40:40,264 RIGHT. >> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL LIKE 1482 00:40:40,264 --> 00:40:41,330 >> Reporter: DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU’RE HOLDING UP A MIRROR TO 1483 00:40:41,330 --> 00:40:43,660 YOU’RE HOLDING UP A MIRROR TO SOCIETY, PLAIN AND SIMPLE? 1484 00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:45,297 SOCIETY, PLAIN AND SIMPLE? OR IS IT LIKE A -- LIKE A 1485 00:40:45,297 --> 00:40:46,627 OR IS IT LIKE A -- LIKE A WEIRD, WARPED, FUNHOUSE MIRROR 1486 00:40:46,627 --> 00:40:48,396 WEIRD, WARPED, FUNHOUSE MIRROR THAT GIVES US A DISTORTED 1487 00:40:48,396 --> 00:40:49,132 THAT GIVES US A DISTORTED PERSPECTIVE OF HOW SCARY THINGS 1488 00:40:49,132 --> 00:40:52,957 PERSPECTIVE OF HOW SCARY THINGS ACTUALLY ARE? 1489 00:40:52,957 --> 00:40:54,495 ACTUALLY ARE? >> AGAIN, THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE 1490 00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:55,429 >> AGAIN, THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF ALL OF THIS IS TO GET PEOPLE 1491 00:40:55,429 --> 00:40:57,957 OF ALL OF THIS IS TO GET PEOPLE TO LAUGH REALLY HARD -- AND 1492 00:40:57,957 --> 00:40:59,132 TO LAUGH REALLY HARD -- AND SMUGGLED IN THERE IS A BIT OF 1493 00:40:59,132 --> 00:41:01,924 SMUGGLED IN THERE IS A BIT OF SATIRE, IS A BIT OF HOPEFULLY 1494 00:41:01,924 --> 00:41:02,957 SATIRE, IS A BIT OF HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE 1495 00:41:02,957 --> 00:41:06,660 THE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE MOVIE THEATER AND THINK. 1496 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:07,759 MOVIE THEATER AND THINK. >> BARON COHEN IS TRYING TO 1497 00:41:07,759 --> 00:41:08,825 >> BARON COHEN IS TRYING TO SHOW US THAT DEMOCRACIES DEPEND 1498 00:41:08,825 --> 00:41:10,759 SHOW US THAT DEMOCRACIES DEPEND ON SHARED TRUTHS, AND 1499 00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:12,198 ON SHARED TRUTHS, AND AUTOCRACIES SURVIVE ON SHARED 1500 00:41:12,198 --> 00:41:13,594 AUTOCRACIES SURVIVE ON SHARED LIES. 1501 00:41:13,594 --> 00:41:14,759 LIES. HE SAYS HE’S JUST DOING SILLY 1502 00:41:14,759 --> 00:41:16,264 HE SAYS HE’S JUST DOING SILLY VOICES, BUT FOR MORE THAN HALF 1503 00:41:16,264 --> 00:41:18,066 VOICES, BUT FOR MORE THAN HALF HIS LIFE, HIS CHARACTERS’ 1504 00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:20,429 HIS LIFE, HIS CHARACTERS’ CURIOSITY, STUPIDITY, AND CHARM 1505 00:41:20,429 --> 00:41:21,429 CURIOSITY, STUPIDITY, AND CHARM HAVE ALSO REVEALED OUR 1506 00:41:21,429 --> 00:41:22,891 HAVE ALSO REVEALED OUR CHARACTER. 1507 00:41:22,891 --> 00:41:24,957 CHARACTER. >> YOU KNOW, MY DREAM WAS, 1508 00:41:24,957 --> 00:41:26,000 >> YOU KNOW, MY DREAM WAS, COULD I MAKE ONE CLASSIC 1509 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,957 COULD I MAKE ONE CLASSIC COMEDY? 1510 00:41:26,957 --> 00:41:27,891 COMEDY? AND I FELT LIKE WITH BORAT, I 1511 00:41:27,891 --> 00:41:30,033 AND I FELT LIKE WITH BORAT, I WAS LIKE, "I DID IT." 1512 00:41:30,033 --> 00:41:31,363 WAS LIKE, "I DID IT." YOU KNOW, SO ANYTHING ELSE IS 1513 00:41:31,363 --> 00:41:33,165 YOU KNOW, SO ANYTHING ELSE IS -- IS REALLY GRAVY. 1514 00:41:33,165 --> 00:41:34,924 -- IS REALLY GRAVY. AND YEAH, I FEEL VERY, VERY 1515 00:41:34,924 --> 00:41:37,660 AND YEAH, I FEEL VERY, VERY LUCKY. 1516 00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:38,528 LUCKY. >> KING IN THE CASTLE! 1517 00:41:38,528 --> 00:41:39,726 >> KING IN THE CASTLE! KING IN THE CASTLE! 1518 00:41:49,825 --> 00:41:49,957 KING IN THE CASTLE! >> [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] >> [ STOPWATCH TICKING ] 1519 00:41:49,957 --> 00:41:51,330 >>> THE LAST MINUTE OF 60 1520 00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:52,627 >>> THE LAST MINUTE OF 60 MINUTES IS SPONSORED BY UNITED 1521 00:41:52,627 --> 00:41:54,660 MINUTES IS SPONSORED BY UNITED HEALTHCARE MEDICARE PLANS, A 1522 00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:55,396 HEALTHCARE MEDICARE PLANS, A MEDICARE EXPERIENCE DESIGNED 1523 00:41:55,396 --> 00:42:02,693 MEDICARE EXPERIENCE DESIGNED FOR WHAT’S NEXT. 1524 00:42:02,693 --> 00:42:03,825 FOR WHAT’S NEXT. >>> I’M SEBASTIAN JUNGER, ONE 1525 00:42:03,825 --> 00:42:04,957 >>> I’M SEBASTIAN JUNGER, ONE OF THE NEW CONTRIBUTORS HERE AT 1526 00:42:04,957 --> 00:42:06,033 OF THE NEW CONTRIBUTORS HERE AT 60 MINUTES. 1527 00:42:06,033 --> 00:42:07,132 60 MINUTES. I’VE RECENTLY RETURNED FROM 1528 00:42:07,132 --> 00:42:10,165 I’VE RECENTLY RETURNED FROM UKRAINE, WHERE I WITNESSED AN 1529 00:42:10,165 --> 00:42:11,231 UKRAINE, WHERE I WITNESSED AN ENTIRE SOCIETY FIGHTING FOR 1530 00:42:11,231 --> 00:42:13,099 ENTIRE SOCIETY FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL. 1531 00:42:13,099 --> 00:42:14,231 SURVIVAL. ALMOST FIVE YEARS AFTER RUSSIA 1532 00:42:14,231 --> 00:42:15,726 ALMOST FIVE YEARS AFTER RUSSIA INVADED, UKRAINE REFUSES TO 1533 00:42:15,726 --> 00:42:17,561 INVADED, UKRAINE REFUSES TO YIELD. 1534 00:42:17,561 --> 00:42:18,627 YIELD. BUT VLADIMIR PUTIN IS KEEPING 1535 00:42:18,627 --> 00:42:20,297 BUT VLADIMIR PUTIN IS KEEPING UP THE PRESSURE. 1536 00:42:20,297 --> 00:42:21,660 UP THE PRESSURE. IN RECENT DAYS, RUSSIAN STRIKES 1537 00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:22,759 IN RECENT DAYS, RUSSIAN STRIKES HAVE TORN THROUGH CIVILIAN 1538 00:42:22,759 --> 00:42:23,891 HAVE TORN THROUGH CIVILIAN BUSES AND RESIDENTIAL 1539 00:42:23,891 --> 00:42:27,231 BUSES AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, KILLING DOZENS. 1540 00:42:27,231 --> 00:42:28,363 BUILDINGS, KILLING DOZENS. AND PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT BE 1541 00:42:28,363 --> 00:42:29,330 AND PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT BE GIVING RUSSIA ACCESS TO EVEN 1542 00:42:29,330 --> 00:42:33,132 GIVING RUSSIA ACCESS TO EVEN MORE MONEY TO WAGE ITS WAR. 1543 00:42:33,132 --> 00:42:34,462 MORE MONEY TO WAGE ITS WAR. WITH MIDTERMS ON THE HORIZON, 1544 00:42:34,462 --> 00:42:35,957 WITH MIDTERMS ON THE HORIZON, THE IRAN WAR UNRESOLVED, AND 1545 00:42:35,957 --> 00:42:37,297 THE IRAN WAR UNRESOLVED, AND GAS PRICES SKY HIGH, THE 1546 00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:38,462 GAS PRICES SKY HIGH, THE PRESIDENT IS NOW ALLOWING 1547 00:42:38,462 --> 00:42:39,528 PRESIDENT IS NOW ALLOWING RUSSIA TO SELL DIESEL ON THE 1548 00:42:39,528 --> 00:42:40,825 RUSSIA TO SELL DIESEL ON THE WORLD MARKET. 1549 00:42:40,825 --> 00:42:41,726 WORLD MARKET. THAT MEANS THE WAR MAY CONTINUE 1550 00:42:41,726 --> 00:42:45,033 THAT MEANS THE WAR MAY CONTINUE WITH NO END IN SIGHT. 1551 00:42:45,033 --> 00:42:46,429 WITH NO END IN SIGHT. DONALD TRUMP HAS EVEN CALLED ON 1552 00:42:46,429 --> 00:42:47,528 DONALD TRUMP HAS EVEN CALLED ON UKRAINE TO REPLACE PRESIDENT 1553 00:42:47,528 --> 00:42:48,561 UKRAINE TO REPLACE PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY WITH SOMEONE WILLING 1554 00:42:48,561 --> 00:42:51,396 ZELENSKYY WITH SOMEONE WILLING TO MAKE A DEAL WITH PUTIN. 1555 00:42:51,396 --> 00:42:52,594 TO MAKE A DEAL WITH PUTIN. THE STAKES COULDN’T BE HIGHER, 1556 00:42:52,594 --> 00:42:53,792 THE STAKES COULDN’T BE HIGHER, SURVIVAL FOR UKRAINE AND 1557 00:42:53,792 --> 00:42:55,825 SURVIVAL FOR UKRAINE AND SECURITY FOR THE WESTERN WORLD. 1558 00:42:55,825 --> 00:42:57,891 SECURITY FOR THE WESTERN WORLD. WE’LL KEEP WATCHING. 1559 00:42:57,891 --> 00:42:59,132 WE’LL KEEP WATCHING. AND WE’LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK, 1560 00:42:59,132 --> 00:43:00,330 AND WE’LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK, WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF 60 1561 00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:03,891 WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF 60 MINUTES.