1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,776 Four weeks 60 Minutes has been reporting on the 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,576 fast developing story of coronavirus variance. 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,476 That's the UK variant which was you can see 4 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:18,976 here was identified of dates back to about September 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,076 of last year and then all of a sudden 6 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:23,076 you get a lot of these right and that's 7 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:25,376 because it's more transmissible tonight. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,876 You'll hear from leading researchers in the field about 9 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:30,776 what we know about the variance and what science 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,376 is doing right now to try to stop their 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,476 spread. 12 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:37,676 The great city of St. 13 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:39,276 Louis is divided. 14 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:41,776 The North side is predominantly black 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,777 to the South. 16 00:00:42,801 --> 00:00:45,076 It's whiter and more affluent. 17 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:48,376 The city's murder rate is at a 50-year high 18 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,877 and st. 19 00:00:48,901 --> 00:00:51,076 Louis has one of the highest rates of police 20 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:52,776 shootings in the country. 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,577 Most of them 22 00:00:53,601 --> 00:00:56,376 against black citizens 23 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,176 enter Kim Gardener 24 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,776 a progressive prosecutor 25 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,076 who has very publicly taken on the powerful police 26 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:03,976 Union 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,276 through 28 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:05,077 right off the bat. 29 00:01:05,101 --> 00:01:07,376 You have not gotten along with the police Union 30 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,476 day one. 31 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,276 The entire music industry will have their eyes fixed 32 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:23,300 on the Grammys tonight. 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,876 But first we wanted to introduce you to New 34 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:31,376 Orleans self-proclaimed best band in the land 35 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,776 so you could hear them 36 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,676 and their story. 37 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:40,276 Thank you Eddie for a second. 38 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:41,676 I'm Leslie Stahl. 39 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:42,876 I'm Bill Whitaker. 40 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:44,076 I'm Anderson Cooper. 41 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:45,576 I'm Sharon all fancy. 42 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,776 I'm Scott Pelley 43 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,176 those stories and more tonight 44 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:57,200 on 60 Minutes. 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:58,976 Tonight. 46 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,277 Dr. 47 00:01:59,301 --> 00:02:03,676 Jon LaPook on assignment for 60 minutes 48 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:07,676 over two million Americans are receiving vaccinations everyday 49 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:08,077 fueling. 50 00:02:08,101 --> 00:02:10,876 Hope the end of the pandemic is near 51 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:13,376 but since the Stars Covey to virus emerged in 52 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,676 Wuhan China 14 months ago over a hundred million 53 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:20,776 people worldwide have been infected and with each infection. 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,076 The virus has had the chance to mutate into 55 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:26,876 genetic Offspring called variance one of those variants. 56 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:28,776 First identified in the UK 57 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,676 has spread across the US 58 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:33,676 and is estimated to be 50% more transmissible than 59 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:35,076 the original virus 60 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,276 and likely more deadly 61 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:41,776 Nationwide covid-19 cases have fallen but Public Health officials 62 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,476 are warning if these variants continue to spread 63 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:49,076 they could trigger a new surge of infections news. 64 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:52,076 The UK variant had reached American Shores came last 65 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:55,276 December at the University of California San Diego. 66 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:56,776 We don't know that 67 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,176 the variant was found as part of an extensive 68 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,476 coronavirus surveillance and testing system that has kept nearly 69 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:05,976 25,000 people living and working on campus. 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,677 Thank you 71 00:03:06,701 --> 00:03:12,876 vending machines designed to dispense candy bars now offer 72 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:15,876 nasal swabs for covid testing. 73 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:18,076 And golf carts go on daily runs 74 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:21,376 collecting samples taken from Wastewater 75 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,176 there. 76 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,476 Sure. 77 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:26,676 So now if we pick this up 78 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:30,376 environmental engineer Smurfy Karthik Ian showed us how robots 79 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,176 place near over 300 student dorms and research buildings 80 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,776 suck up sewer samples 81 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,076 looking for early evidence. 82 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:39,476 Someone might be infected with the virus 83 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:41,376 and if there's a positive what happens 84 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,476 if there's a positive and they will send targeted 85 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:45,576 notices saying you're building the Wastewater. 86 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,576 In positive and please go get tested many positive 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,576 samples from Wastewater and nasal swabs are sent here 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,876 to nearby Scripps Research where infectious disease researcher Christian 89 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:01,076 Andersen's lab performs genetic sequencing to identify any variations 90 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:03,376 really important that we keep an eye on the 91 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,577 virus. 92 00:04:03,601 --> 00:04:06,476 How is it evolving? How is it transmitting? How 93 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:09,376 is it changing genetic sequences from around the world 94 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,476 are constantly being analyzed in a database called neck 95 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,576 strain that Anderson and other scientists used to 96 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,776 Visualize how variants are spreading 97 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,676 these are beautiful colors, but 98 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:20,976 what am I looking at? 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,876 You can think of this as a family tree 100 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:24,976 and what we have is down here. 101 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,876 This is the first one in Wuhan 102 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:28,476 viruses mutate 103 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:29,676 over time. 104 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,676 You see mutations coming up and that's when you 105 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:33,576 start getting these branching patterns. 106 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,876 So then you have 107 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:37,276 sisters and brothers here and then you have aunts 108 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:40,076 and uncles and what's the Practical use of having 109 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:41,077 a tree like this 110 00:04:41,101 --> 00:04:43,676 the Practical use is that somebody like me can 111 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:45,376 go in and let's look at like, how is 112 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:45,577 this 113 00:04:45,601 --> 00:04:49,076 All related since the original virus was first identified 114 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:53,176 in December 2019 thousands of variants have been documented. 115 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,876 Anderson says scientists are keeping a close eye on 116 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:57,577 three of them. 117 00:04:57,601 --> 00:05:00,876 They call variants of concern and that's the UK 118 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:03,876 variant which was you can see here was identified 119 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:06,776 of dates back to about September of last year 120 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,376 and then all of a sudden you get a 121 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,376 lot of these and that's because it's more transmissible. 122 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,576 So transmissible the Centers for Disease Control has projected 123 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,577 the UK. 124 00:05:15,601 --> 00:05:17,676 Giant will be the dominant strain in the u.s. 125 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:19,176 In the next month 126 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,076 the variance from Brazil seen in red and South 127 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:23,876 Africa seen an orange 128 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:26,276 have already spread to dozens of countries, 129 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:28,176 including the u.s. 130 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,476 Variants arise because the tsarist Covey to virus is 131 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:34,076 constantly making copies of itself 132 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:35,376 as it replicates 133 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,076 tiny mistakes or mutations can occur in its genetic 134 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:40,176 code. 135 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,776 They're rare and usually insignificant, 136 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,976 but once in a while one or more mutations 137 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:45,977 team up, 138 00:05:46,001 --> 00:05:48,876 To create a more dangerous variant of the virus. 139 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:52,276 We are reading Evolutions lab notebook 140 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:54,276 every time one of these pops up. 141 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:58,176 It's telling us exactly how Evolution benefits 142 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,376 at the expense of the fitness of humankind. 143 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:01,677 Dr. 144 00:06:01,701 --> 00:06:04,976 Francis Collins director of the National Institutes of Health 145 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,876 is a geneticist who 20 years ago oversaw the 146 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:10,376 decoding of the human genome. 147 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,976 He says, he's surprised by how much this virus 148 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,276 is evolving. 149 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:15,576 Why are the variants of 150 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,776 concern that we're seeing in places like the United 151 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,576 Kingdom South Africa Brazil 152 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,076 of such concern. 153 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:23,976 It turns out that some of these mutations actually 154 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,776 change the behavior of this virus 155 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,176 in a way that makes it more infectious 156 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,776 or more serious 157 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,876 and the evidence is that for both the be 158 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:35,776 117, which is 159 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,776 primarily seen in the UK but increasingly in the 160 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,577 US 161 00:06:39,601 --> 00:06:42,776 And the South African be 1351 that they are 162 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,876 more transmissible. 163 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:45,676 They're just really successful. 164 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:47,276 Seeing evolution in motion. 165 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:50,776 I think it's been rarely seen as clearly as 166 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,777 right now 167 00:06:51,801 --> 00:06:53,376 how Evolution Works 168 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:53,977 in that way. 169 00:06:54,001 --> 00:06:56,876 It was pretty predictable what wasn't predictable for me. 170 00:06:56,900 --> 00:06:57,877 Anyway 171 00:06:57,901 --> 00:06:59,876 was that there would be so many copies of 172 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:00,877 this virus 173 00:07:00,901 --> 00:07:03,676 that even a slow evolutionary process 174 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:05,876 could in just a matter of a few months 175 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:08,476 a produce some viruses that we're worried about 176 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:10,276 and there are so many copies because 177 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:13,776 it's a pandemic and it's been very successful and 178 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,576 infecting millions and 179 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,476 Ian's of people these samples were from the patient's 180 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:20,876 lung an early clue about how the virus was 181 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:23,976 mutating came last summer at the University of Pittsburgh 182 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,376 medical center 183 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,776 infectious disease specialist. 184 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,077 Dr. 185 00:07:27,101 --> 00:07:28,376 Gaudy hide our says 186 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,276 a cancer patient with a compromised immune system came 187 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:34,276 in with a covid-19 infection that persisted for over 188 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:37,676 70 days far beyond the typical few weeks. 189 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:40,776 We had no idea at the time that people 190 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,276 could still be actively infectious for that long and 191 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:45,776 it really wasn't until 192 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,676 After he passed away 193 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:50,876 that we started running some additional testing on samples 194 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:52,576 that had allowed us to collect from him when 195 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,577 he was alive. 196 00:07:53,601 --> 00:07:54,776 And that's when we 197 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,376 found that the virus really quickly began to develop 198 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,676 all these deletions and mutations throughout the patient's life. 199 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,476 This electron microscope image shows a sample taken from 200 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,176 the patient's windpipe. 201 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,476 Tiny spheres looked like the original virus from Wuhan 202 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:10,576 China, 203 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,876 but genetic sequencing revealed a different story. 204 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:15,576 There were small gaps were in 205 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,576 Formation should be 206 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,076 irish-born University of Pittsburgh virologist. 207 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:22,876 Paul despres says the UK variant has some of 208 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:24,576 the same deletions 209 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,476 leading some scientists to believe it may have started 210 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,876 in an immunocompromised patient 211 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:31,376 when you have a patient who is sick for 212 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,476 so long, 213 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:35,076 there's the opportunity for the virus to replicate and 214 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:37,676 replicate and replicate and every time in virus has 215 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:39,176 that opportunity to replicate 216 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,276 is also an opportunity for to make a mistake, 217 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:41,977 right 218 00:08:42,001 --> 00:08:45,876 and that's high viruses change those mistakes. 219 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,476 Give the virus just a little bit 220 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:50,176 of a Competitive Edge. 221 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,576 For example 222 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,576 kind of get into a sale batter. 223 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,276 Duprey says yes, 224 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:58,076 we use this animation to show us how 225 00:08:58,100 --> 00:08:59,976 it starts with the spike protein 226 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,076 seen in red 227 00:09:01,100 --> 00:09:03,776 which the virus uses to latch onto and to 228 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,676 enter a human cell. 229 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:07,976 So if you've been infected, you'll make antibodies these 230 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,977 blue 231 00:09:09,001 --> 00:09:11,676 molecules that bind to the outside of the virus 232 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:12,577 Spike 233 00:09:12,601 --> 00:09:15,276 and what they do is they block the virus 234 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:15,676 getting 235 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:16,476 Into 236 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:17,177 the sale. 237 00:09:17,201 --> 00:09:19,176 They can't bind the receptor 238 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,877 know 239 00:09:19,901 --> 00:09:21,376 here's a variant 240 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,177 the yellow 241 00:09:22,201 --> 00:09:23,476 illustrating the variant. 242 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:25,976 The antibodies can no longer bind 243 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,976 the virus is able to attach to that 244 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,076 receptor latch on 245 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:32,077 and bingo 246 00:09:32,101 --> 00:09:33,876 that person 247 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:35,176 gets infected. 248 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,776 Is there anything we can do to stop the 249 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,876 virus from mutating so much 250 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:40,476 we can certainly 251 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:43,376 stop at making as many mutations by stopping at 252 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,176 infecting as many people 253 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,577 if we 254 00:09:45,601 --> 00:09:47,676 We block its transmission if we wear a mask 255 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:50,276 if we get vaccinated, we do social distancing. 256 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:51,876 So there is a practical thing that we can 257 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:52,677 do, 258 00:09:52,701 --> 00:09:55,476 but physically biologically is there something that we can 259 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:55,677 do. 260 00:09:55,701 --> 00:09:57,776 Is there a Magic Bullet that we can shoot 261 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,476 at it that stops at making mutations 262 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:01,576 dope 263 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,176 to understand the threat posed by mutations 264 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,176 Public Health experts are studying the Brazilian city of 265 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,276 manaus 266 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:11,876 last spring covid swept through the population leaving about 267 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:15,676 70% infected as a result some 268 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:18,976 Arches believe the city had reached herd immunity 269 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,176 but then starting this past December 270 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,976 epidemiologist suspect thousands were re infected with the Brazilian 271 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,076 variant 272 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:26,477 hospitals. 273 00:10:26,501 --> 00:10:28,476 There were overwhelmed 274 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,976 Health officials reported up to a hundred and fifty 275 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,276 deaths a day 276 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:33,776 and a recent study suggests. 277 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,076 The variant is more infectious than earlier strains 278 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,676 and maybe better at evading antibodies. 279 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:42,576 We have a cluster of cases that Columbia University 280 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,976 Irving Medical Center. 281 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,377 Dr. 282 00:10:44,401 --> 00:10:45,576 David Howe no, 283 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,076 For his groundbreaking HIV research 284 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:51,176 is now working to identify which variants are present 285 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,676 in New York City 286 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:53,677 since January. 287 00:10:53,701 --> 00:10:57,176 His team has analyzed over 2,000 nasal swabs taken 288 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,576 from people who had tested positive for covid-19. 289 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,076 What was unexpected was there were only sporadic cases 290 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:08,976 the UK Brazilian and South African variance, but instead 291 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,776 we noticed that we had a homegrown Barian something 292 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,676 new something new that was dominating. 293 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:18,576 And Rising very rapidly 294 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,276 how rapidly is it growing? 295 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:24,676 It's over 20% over 20% So that's a rapid 296 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:26,676 rise in the last couple of months. 297 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:26,977 Dr. 298 00:11:27,001 --> 00:11:29,376 Ho says the New York City variant is doubling 299 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,176 roughly every two weeks 300 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,676 and City Health officials announced this past week. 301 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:36,876 They found the variant in 39% of the covid-19 302 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:37,777 samples. 303 00:11:37,801 --> 00:11:39,576 They recently sequenced dr. 304 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,276 Ho is concerned because that variant chairs a key 305 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,876 mutation with one found in South Africa. 306 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:48,276 Several studies have looked at the effectiveness of the 307 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:50,576 three vaccines authorized in the u.s. 308 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,076 Against that South African variant 309 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:56,076 both in laboratory tests and clinical trials 310 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:58,576 the vaccines appear to be somewhat less effective at 311 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,976 eliciting an immune response or preventing infection, 312 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,976 but the companies anticipate that vaccines will still provide 313 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,876 protection from severe disease 314 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:09,076 from that South African variant. 315 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:10,976 What people are worried about is I got of 316 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,477 vaccine. 317 00:12:11,501 --> 00:12:13,176 I thought I was safe and now you're talking 318 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,676 about all these variants, 319 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:15,976 where am I? 320 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,176 I'm in the same boat. 321 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,776 I got vaccinated 322 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,076 and I felt protected for a while until 323 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:23,876 we realize there was so much 324 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:25,376 of the Homegrown variant 325 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,576 in New York. 326 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,076 How do you put this in perspective for people 327 00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:29,576 who are watching this right now? 328 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,176 I think we have to be 329 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,676 a victim cerned 330 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:35,676 but that doesn't say the vaccines don't work 331 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:38,376 even in South Africa the vaccine still work to 332 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:38,977 some extent. 333 00:12:39,001 --> 00:12:40,876 It's just not as 334 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:44,376 highly protective as we had against the original strain 335 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,676 in addition. 336 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:48,676 Vaccine may not protect against infection, 337 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:49,577 but may 338 00:12:49,601 --> 00:12:51,476 protect against disease 339 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:52,576 or death. 340 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:52,877 Dr. 341 00:12:52,901 --> 00:12:55,776 Cohen says so far the Pfizer and moderna vaccines 342 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,776 appear effective against the UK variant 343 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,576 and this past week a small laboratory study found 344 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,776 the Pfizer vaccine elicited the same strong immune response 345 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,476 against the Brazilian variant 346 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:08,776 as against the original virus 347 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,176 drug companies say they are working to retool their 348 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,676 vaccines and create booster shots as needed to keep 349 00:13:14,700 --> 00:13:15,576 up with the 350 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,377 that's 351 00:13:16,401 --> 00:13:18,076 what keeps you up at night in terms of 352 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:20,076 the variance down the line 353 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:23,476 if I have an anxiety, it's something worse than 354 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:25,176 the South African variant 355 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,576 is out there 356 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,876 that will get to the point where the vaccines 357 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:31,776 no longer appear to be fully protective against a 358 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,076 bad outcome 359 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,376 and that will certainly drive us then 360 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,676 to do a redesign 361 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:38,776 of the vaccines as quick as we can 362 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,677 recently 363 00:13:39,701 --> 00:13:41,476 a variant has been found in New York city 364 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:44,376 that has some of the characteristics of the variant 365 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,676 of concern found in 366 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:46,577 Africa 367 00:13:46,601 --> 00:13:49,476 I'm not on the surface of it overly alarmed 368 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,377 about that, 369 00:13:50,401 --> 00:13:53,176 but it's going to deserve a real lab experiment 370 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,376 to make sure 371 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,676 that our vaccines would still provide immunity against that 372 00:13:57,700 --> 00:14:01,776 this all ton of political economic and other pressure 373 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,176 to have these vaccines be successful 374 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,676 is the government committed to being totally transparent about 375 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:09,276 these variants about 376 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,276 whether or not the vaccines are working 377 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:13,176 or is there some kind of a filter 378 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,676 there cannot be a filter. 379 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:15,577 I will not 380 00:14:15,601 --> 00:14:17,276 Not stand for that neither will dr. 381 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:18,277 Fauci 382 00:14:18,301 --> 00:14:19,676 and absolutely 383 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:20,876 if we 384 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:21,577 ever 385 00:14:21,601 --> 00:14:22,776 come across 386 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,076 as having the 387 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:27,176 truth of the matter distorted by what is politically 388 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,976 or economically convenient, 389 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,276 then we will have lost the public trust. 390 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:31,577 Dr. 391 00:14:31,601 --> 00:14:34,076 Collins says right now we have a window of 392 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:35,876 opportunity. 393 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:36,477 I'm ready 394 00:14:36,501 --> 00:14:38,776 and that Americans need to get vaccinated 395 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,376 avoid large Gatherings 396 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,776 and wear masks to prevent the virus from spreading 397 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,176 and mutating even more. 398 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,576 Just continue to hear that this isn't over yet 399 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,576 has got to be a hard thing 400 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,676 for all of us. 401 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:56,276 I don't want to sound so pessimistic though. 402 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:58,576 We are making amazing progress. 403 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,276 We just got to hang on 404 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:02,676 and don't blow it at the end. 405 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:05,176 If you're the guy running for the Finish Line 406 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,776 don't trip right there on the 10-yard line. 407 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,976 Try to get all the way to the goal. 408 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,576 We can see it. 409 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,776 We're going to get there 410 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,276 but this is not the moment to relax 411 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:16,077 or stop running. 412 00:15:16,101 --> 00:15:21,376 Hard 413 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,676 a year of covid-19 reporting when you think that 414 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:25,177 a year ago. 415 00:15:25,201 --> 00:15:27,176 We said that as many as 20 people have 416 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,676 died and now it's more than half a million 417 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:37,576 at 60 Minutes over time.com. 418 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,776 This past week former officer Derek Shogun went on 419 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,376 trial in Minneapolis 420 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,976 accused of the murder of George Floyd 421 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,576 watching on a knife edge. 422 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,077 Is st. 423 00:15:47,101 --> 00:15:48,276 Louis, Missouri 424 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:50,876 where demands for police reform have been growing since 425 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:52,276 2014 426 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:53,376 when Michael Brown 427 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,976 an unarmed black teen 428 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,976 was shot dead by a white cop in a 429 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,676 nearby suburb 430 00:15:58,700 --> 00:15:59,077 st. 431 00:15:59,101 --> 00:16:01,376 Louis has one of the highest rates of police 432 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,976 shootings in the country 433 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,076 and black mistrust of police runs deep. 434 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:07,376 So when an African-American, 435 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,476 I can woman 1 the top prosecutors job first 436 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:11,576 in 2016. 437 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,476 And again this past November 438 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,576 many hoped for change 439 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,676 Kim Gardener a democrat in a red State promise 440 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,776 to hold police to account 441 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,577 instead. 442 00:16:21,601 --> 00:16:24,676 She has run into Relentless opposition from the police 443 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,376 Union and it's powerful allies. 444 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,277 We went to st. 445 00:16:28,301 --> 00:16:31,176 Louis to find out what happens when a reformer 446 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,276 takes on the status quo. 447 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:36,876 We as law enforcement have to hear 448 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:40,176 the cries for help in the community and deliver 449 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,177 and that's why 450 00:16:41,201 --> 00:16:42,776 I'm not going to back down. 451 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,276 That's why I'm not going to Kiss the Ring 452 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:46,476 of the status quo to keep it a certain 453 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:47,377 away 454 00:16:47,401 --> 00:16:48,776 inside the old st. 455 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,576 Louis courthouse where enslaved African Americans once sued for 456 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,676 their freedom. 457 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:56,776 Kim Gardener felt the weight of expectations 458 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,676 to keep her promise and rebuild the justice system 459 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:01,176 around fairness 460 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,776 is about the will of the people and the 461 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:03,976 people of the city of st. 462 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,676 Was overwhelmingly voted me in to do my job 463 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:08,876 to reform A system that we all know 464 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:10,876 is beyond repair in needs to be 465 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:12,376 dismantled and rebuilt. 466 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,976 What is at stake here 467 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,376 the Integrity of the whole Criminal Justice System. 468 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,376 She went right to work. 469 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,376 She stopped locking up nonviolent offenders dropped low level 470 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,476 drug cases 471 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,276 and ended cash bail 472 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,976 A system that hit black citizens hardest 473 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,176 but less than a year into the job 474 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,576 her hopes of building trust in police 475 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,876 suffered a setback. 476 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:34,777 Back 477 00:17:34,801 --> 00:17:37,876 Jason stockley a white officer here on the left 478 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,976 was charged with the murder of a black man 479 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,276 a drug suspect who fled 480 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:45,976 dashcam video caught stockley swearing to kill him 481 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,076 moments later. 482 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,376 He did 483 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,976 only one gun was found. 484 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,676 It was covered with stock Lee's DNA and none 485 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:53,876 of the victims 486 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:55,876 stockley claimed self-defense 487 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:59,976 and was acquitted. 488 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,276 Protesters poured into the streets 489 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:09,176 years of mistrust and rage boiled over 490 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,476 a white boy 491 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:17,276 The Clash is triggered dozens of police brutality lawsuits 492 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,476 text messages released in court 493 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,476 showed some officers spoiling for a fight. 494 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:24,876 Let's whoop some ass texted one. 495 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:26,776 It's going to be fun beating the hell out 496 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,277 of these 497 00:18:27,301 --> 00:18:30,376 heads read another 498 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,776 Kim Gardener told us for many st. 499 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,477 Louisans 500 00:18:33,501 --> 00:18:36,076 with stockley verdict reinforced the belief 501 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:39,176 that City police often act with impunity. 502 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,076 She called on City Hall to fund an independent 503 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:42,677 team 504 00:18:42,701 --> 00:18:44,876 to investigate police shootings. 505 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:47,576 It made her instant enemies. 506 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,276 So right off the bat you have not gotten 507 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:51,076 along with the police Union 508 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:51,777 day one 509 00:18:51,801 --> 00:18:54,576 we work well with everyday police officers every day, 510 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,477 but 511 00:18:55,501 --> 00:18:57,376 what we have is the police Union 512 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,376 who and who 513 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,377 basically 514 00:18:59,401 --> 00:19:03,076 injects fear and misinformation in the police department. 515 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:05,276 The union called her a cop hater 516 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:08,676 and successfully lobbied to torpedo her reforms at City 517 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:09,677 Hall. 518 00:19:09,701 --> 00:19:12,076 It's gone downhill from there. 519 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,476 This is that all police 520 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:16,276 this is not everyone in the system Belize this 521 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:17,376 but we have to 522 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,376 have the good people stand up 523 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,776 because silence 524 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,676 is also complicit 525 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:25,376 agreement with this type of behavior. 526 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:25,777 St. 527 00:19:25,801 --> 00:19:28,076 Louis is a city divided. 528 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,576 The North side is predominantly black 529 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,876 manufacturing jobs have gone. 530 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:34,976 It has some of the poorest neighborhoods in the 531 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,076 country, 532 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:37,676 but cross to the South. 533 00:19:37,700 --> 00:19:39,576 It's like a different city 534 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,277 whiter 535 00:19:40,301 --> 00:19:41,476 more affluent. 536 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:44,776 There are private gated communities 537 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,976 like the McCluskey's neighborhood 538 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,976 the couple voltage and national attention last summer 539 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,976 when they brandished guns that black lives matter protesters 540 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,176 when Kim gardener, 541 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,976 Charge the couple with unlawful use of weapons. 542 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,176 She came in for a storm of criticism 543 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,576 McCluskey's pleaded not guilty. 544 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,176 I was sent emails and 545 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,376 it said I should be hung up by a 546 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,176 tree by the KKK. 547 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,276 This is just from like the last 548 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:12,576 week 549 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,476 the week's worth of hate mail. 550 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,876 This one the subject line is racist 551 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:19,776 you racist piece of 552 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,676 I wish someone would put 553 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:25,176 a bullet in your head. 554 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,876 Is this common? 555 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:28,276 Unfortunately it is 556 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:29,676 when it comes to me. 557 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:30,976 I know the one 558 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,376 I hope people destroy your neighborhood 559 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,976 threaten your family 560 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,476 and more you 561 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:38,576 import monkey. 562 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,476 What do you think when you 563 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,376 open up your mail? And you have something like 564 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,077 this? 565 00:20:43,101 --> 00:20:45,376 Well, I think about the 566 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,376 People who paved the way for me to even 567 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,376 be in this position some of these are death 568 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,476 threats 569 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:51,976 that frighten you 570 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,577 well, 571 00:20:52,601 --> 00:20:54,076 you know, I signed up for this 572 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:56,776 but what frightens me is now that it's 573 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,376 caused my family and I'm afraid that 574 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,277 a loved one 575 00:21:00,301 --> 00:21:02,976 may be harmed because I took this job 576 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,076 Kim Gardener grew up above her family's Funeral Home 577 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:06,776 in North st. 578 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,677 Louis. 579 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:09,576 She got a degree in nursing 580 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,976 but switched to law 581 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,776 after her brother was sentenced to 17 years in 582 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,376 prison 583 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,077 for robbing. 584 00:21:15,101 --> 00:21:16,676 Neighbor's house 585 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:20,676 crime and tough punishment are an all-too-familiar part of 586 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:22,576 life on the North side. 587 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,976 Let's start addressing the pain. 588 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,576 Let's start addressing and really understanding the communities and 589 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,776 those people are hardworking individuals who are not anti 590 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,276 police at the same time. 591 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:32,976 They want fairness and justice 592 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,876 under the laws people 593 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:36,476 say that you are 594 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:38,076 the prosecutor for 595 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:38,676 black st. 596 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:39,476 Louis. 597 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:40,177 I / take 598 00:21:40,201 --> 00:21:41,576 all people in the city of st. 599 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,276 Louis 600 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:42,877 and 601 00:21:42,901 --> 00:21:45,076 I'm not just a prosecutor for a 602 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:46,077 An American people, 603 00:21:46,101 --> 00:21:47,176 we have 604 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,076 an out-of-control murder rate and an out-of-control violent crime 605 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:50,277 rate. 606 00:21:50,301 --> 00:21:52,076 That's what's unfair. 607 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,276 Geoffroi de has been the public face of the 608 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,376 police Union for a decade 609 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,576 choosing his words carefully. 610 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,476 He told us Kim Gardener is in over her 611 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:02,377 head. 612 00:22:02,401 --> 00:22:04,776 She's a prosecutor that 613 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,876 wants to second-guess everything law enforcement does and 614 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:11,576 and find fault when there's no fault to find 615 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,076 so Kim Gardener is the problem. 616 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,077 She's not the only 617 00:22:15,101 --> 00:22:17,876 by any stretch of the imagination 618 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:19,376 but she's not a it's not a partner with 619 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,976 law enforcement 620 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,976 97.1 FM 621 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,676 but away from our cameras on talk radio. 622 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:28,176 Geoffroi de was less restrained. 623 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,976 I keep hearing this nonsense about she has this 624 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,176 Criminal Justice Reform 625 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,077 agenda. 626 00:22:32,101 --> 00:22:35,376 It's just amnesty for the the most vicious criminals 627 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,876 in America where the deadliest city in America 628 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:38,976 and she thinks 629 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,576 that the problem is were not nice enough to 630 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,577 murderers and 631 00:22:41,601 --> 00:22:44,076 heroin dealers and rapists 632 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:45,976 a former Suburban cop. 633 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,676 Jeff reuter was fired in 634 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,476 Thousand one for falsifying a police report 635 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:53,576 on the fifth anniversary of Michael Brown's death 636 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,376 roorda tweeted happy alive day 637 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,376 for the white officer who shot the black teen 638 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,676 Laura told us 639 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:03,776 it was to show solidarity with police who he 640 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,276 says are being vilified all across the country. 641 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:08,876 What we found is that 642 00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:09,477 in 643 00:23:09,501 --> 00:23:10,976 The vast majority of cases. 644 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,476 It's the aggression on the other side 645 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:14,976 of that encounter 646 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,576 that results in deadly force being used. 647 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,276 We've seen the videos 648 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:22,076 George Floyd wasn't doing anything aggressive 649 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,976 Brianna Taylor was in her bed. 650 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,876 So a lot of this is 651 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,076 problems with 652 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,876 with training with police policies. 653 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:30,476 And that's a problem. 654 00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:31,476 We ought to be addressing 655 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:31,877 St. 656 00:23:31,901 --> 00:23:33,376 Louis 657 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,176 has 658 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,176 by far 659 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,976 The largest number of police shootings in the country 660 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,076 per capita. 661 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:46,076 Why is that? Well, we don't shoot Bill. 662 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:46,577 We shoot back. 663 00:23:46,601 --> 00:23:50,376 I mean we we live in a very violent 664 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,676 city and I don't think it's just surprised anybody 665 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:56,176 that sometimes the police were trying to disrupt that 666 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,576 violence become the victim of that violence. 667 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,576 Despite Kim gardeners mandate. 668 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,276 She's had a Rocky Run her reforms triggered a 669 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:08,176 record turnover of attorneys on Staff 670 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,477 St. 671 00:24:08,501 --> 00:24:11,976 Louis is murder rate is at a 50-year high 672 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,576 State Republican lawmakers blame her 673 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,776 and tried to strip away her Authority. 674 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,776 In an unprecedented move. 675 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,976 She sued geoffroi de the police Union and the 676 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,877 city 677 00:24:24,901 --> 00:24:28,276 using the Reconstruction Era Ku Klux Klan act 678 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,276 to claim a racist conspiracy was preventing her from 679 00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:35,176 doing her job 680 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,876 more than 60 Law Enforcement Officers signed a statement 681 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:40,376 backing Gardner 682 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:47,176 six black women prosecutors flew in to support her. 683 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,676 We've been arresting people. 684 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,076 And locking them up and arresting people and locking 685 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,576 them up for decades 686 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,076 and it hasn't worked and it's not working. 687 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:57,776 So it's time to do something different 688 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,276 Meghan green told us. 689 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:02,576 She hears complaints about police from her constituents 690 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,876 in the more affluent South 691 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,976 one of a handful of reformers on city council. 692 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,876 She knows what Kim Gardener he's facing 693 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:13,376 when green question the police budget 694 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,177 the union 695 00:25:14,201 --> 00:25:16,476 mounted a campaign to unseat her. 696 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,576 It was to send a message to other 697 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,576 Our elected officials like don't you dare 698 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,976 don't you be talking about how much money goes 699 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,576 into the police department? Because if you do this 700 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,376 is what we're going to do to you. 701 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,776 So what is the prognosis for reform? 702 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,576 It's really difficult. 703 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,776 They fight reform tooth and nail 704 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,477 and 705 00:25:36,501 --> 00:25:39,176 and the tactics used to 706 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,776 you know, against elected officials are designed to quell 707 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,576 dissent and I think that 708 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,476 it scares a lot of folks. 709 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,876 I wish I was an easy fix to this 710 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:47,776 thing, 711 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,577 but I think it's going to take 712 00:25:48,601 --> 00:25:50,376 A lot of people crossing the aisle 713 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,177 and 714 00:25:51,201 --> 00:25:52,476 changing 715 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,176 we met Sergeant Robert Ogilvy in North st. 716 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,677 Louis 717 00:25:55,701 --> 00:25:58,676 his beat before he quit the force in August 718 00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:00,176 after 30 years. 719 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,176 He had become disillusioned. 720 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,076 I believe that most of the officers that come 721 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:04,977 out of the academy. 722 00:26:05,001 --> 00:26:06,276 They all have 723 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:08,376 the same heart that idea coming out they want 724 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,776 to come out and do a good job. 725 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,276 But reality out here is this you're basically judged 726 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:13,676 by how 727 00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:15,376 well you are at making a rest. 728 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,576 That's the bottom line. 729 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,476 You couldn't stomach being a policeman anymore. 730 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,477 Yeah, I couldn't do it anymore. 731 00:26:19,501 --> 00:26:21,076 I was seeing the same thing over and over 732 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:21,476 again. 733 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,077 It just gets 734 00:26:22,101 --> 00:26:24,276 it just too much for me 735 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,276 just as the city is divided black and white. 736 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,476 So Robert Ogilvy told us is the way Justice 737 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:31,776 is meted out. 738 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,876 He says police patrol with a heavier hand on 739 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,876 the North side and that has to change 740 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,176 so he has joined Kim gardeners reform program 741 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,676 to keep black youth out of prison. 742 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:46,076 Warden says he's all for 743 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,676 reform. 744 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,076 Okay. 745 00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:49,877 You left 746 00:26:49,901 --> 00:26:50,976 I'd like to see him do it. 747 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,076 I think I'd like to see him step up 748 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,576 and do something 749 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,276 like see what his version of Reform is. 750 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:58,376 It's like he's part of the problem. 751 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,676 I think he's part of the problem. 752 00:26:59,700 --> 00:26:59,877 Yes. 753 00:26:59,901 --> 00:27:01,576 I think the whole the system as a whole 754 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,076 is a problem 755 00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,376 case in point 756 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,676 hundreds of racist slurs were found on Facebook posted 757 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:08,876 by 43 st. 758 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,676 Louis police officers. 759 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:14,376 There were also modified images of the Vigilante Punisher 760 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,976 a blue line added for police 761 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,476 Jeff Ward a told us. 762 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,476 The incident was overblown 763 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:21,177 now 764 00:27:21,201 --> 00:27:23,476 many of those 765 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,176 all they had was like 766 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,976 comic book care like The Punisher or you know, 767 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,376 something benign like that. 768 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,876 They do know that the Punisher 769 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,376 image is being used by white supremacists. 770 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,476 Well, I mean 771 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:35,977 that 772 00:27:36,001 --> 00:27:37,876 doesn't mean that that's why the officer put it 773 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:38,177 up there. 774 00:27:38,201 --> 00:27:39,376 I mean it means different things. 775 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,976 What kind of message does that send to the 776 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,176 black citizens of 777 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,476 st. 778 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:43,177 Louis. 779 00:27:43,201 --> 00:27:45,776 I mean, I think that that's 780 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,176 No. 781 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,476 A very 782 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,376 small percentage of the members. 783 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,576 I represent 784 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,676 two officers were fired for the Facebook posts 785 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,976 Kim Gardener put the rest on an exclusion list 786 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,776 blocking them from pursuing cases or testifying in court. 787 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,576 She told us she couldn't trust their work was 788 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,076 unbiased 789 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:09,776 the police union says the exclusion list is dangerous. 790 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,976 The reason being that they say it means that 791 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,876 fewer cases will 792 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:15,176 get to court. 793 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,076 Well, that's simply false the 794 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:19,276 It is so out of touch with reality that 795 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,276 listening to them is 796 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,876 is just not even productive 797 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,876 just as we finished speaking with Kim Gardener 798 00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:30,576 word came her lawsuit claiming a racist conspiracy 799 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,376 had been dismissed 800 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,276 the judge called it nothing more than a compilation 801 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,076 of personal slights. 802 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,376 But Gardner told us 803 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,376 it won't stop her 804 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,277 the voters of st. 805 00:28:41,301 --> 00:28:43,476 Louis have called for reform 806 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:51,500 and she intends to deliver. 807 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,576 Tonight musicians will hope to hear their names and 808 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,276 nouns does winners at the Grammy Awards 809 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,876 the thousands of miles away from the ceremony 810 00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:08,876 one group has already claimed the title best band 811 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:09,776 in the land 812 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,177 the st. 813 00:29:10,201 --> 00:29:12,876 Augustine High School Marching Band, 814 00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:14,976 the New Orleans band has always been one of 815 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,376 the biggest crowd Pleasers of Mardi Gras. 816 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,276 But this year the Parade's did not roll. 817 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,376 We wondered if the band had been muted as 818 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,177 well. 819 00:29:23,201 --> 00:29:24,976 We went to New Orleans to see 820 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,376 and found a story and a band 821 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,877 we thought 822 00:29:27,901 --> 00:29:29,976 You should here 823 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,177 we go. 824 00:29:30,201 --> 00:29:38,201 Hold up. 825 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,276 Dustin High School Marching Band needs no introduction in 826 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,476 New Orleans 827 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,276 the drums and horns have echoed through the city 828 00:29:55,300 --> 00:30:01,376 since the band was founded in 1952, 829 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,676 but like any aging instrument 830 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:04,776 it was a need. 831 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,076 A tuna. 832 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:10,176 Alright badass know 833 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,976 the whole stadium heard that 834 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,976 enter Ray Johnson 835 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,976 do it again. 836 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,276 He was hired as the new band director last 837 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:21,977 summer 838 00:30:22,001 --> 00:30:24,576 and he isn't wasting time with pleasantries. 839 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,676 Can you tell if they've been practicing? 840 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:27,876 Yes, I can 841 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,876 everything has to be precise 842 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:32,276 the marching the Precision 843 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:34,676 standing correctly and can you hear it? If 844 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:36,276 One of them is off I guess 845 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:37,676 and we call them out on that. 846 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,176 I sure will 847 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,676 and New Orleans 848 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:46,576 marching band is a culture 849 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,576 just like in some places they have football as 850 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,676 a culture 851 00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:51,076 but here in this city. 852 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,276 They live breathe 853 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,676 eat sleep everything marching back 854 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:56,276 saying OG as it's known 855 00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:59,176 is one of the few predominantly black all boys 856 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,776 Catholic high schools in the country. 857 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,376 It's it's a New Orleans Seventh Ward 858 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,076 seven blocks from the Mississippi River 859 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,276 not the part of the city usually found on 860 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:11,776 postcards. 861 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,676 The school was surrounded by reminders of a city 862 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,176 forever rebuilding 863 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:18,976 Rush 864 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,877 In Here 865 00:31:19,901 --> 00:31:23,776 Ray Johnson is rebuilding to 866 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,976 the best band in the land is more of 867 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,976 a mission statement these days. 868 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,176 Yeah, I'm wrong notes coming from over here 869 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,576 since hurricane Katrina flooded the school in 870 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,676 2005 871 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:36,976 it's been a long haul the music library is 872 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,576 still a temporary trailer on the blacktop school didn't 873 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,176 come back the same and instruments. 874 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,976 We didn't have enough and uniforms with damage. 875 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,676 So we had to rebuild everything and just now 876 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,576 we were beginning to see the fruits of our 877 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,377 labor 878 00:31:54,401 --> 00:31:57,176 and then Here Comes: how many kids are in 879 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,776 the band now on the role, I have 85, 880 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,576 where would you like that number to be, huh? 881 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,676 ER and fifty 882 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,276 a hundred and fifty allows for a full band 883 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:07,776 and a deep bench 884 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,577 for decades. 885 00:32:08,601 --> 00:32:10,676 They easily hit that number 886 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:13,776 on a sizzling hot black top over the summer 887 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,776 hundreds of students would try out for a spot. 888 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,776 The competition was fierce 889 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,176 many of the kids had grown up playing music 890 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,976 Ray Johnson was one of them 891 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,976 would you have ever skipped practice back in the 892 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,476 80s? 893 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:26,476 Oh, no, man. 894 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:27,077 No, 895 00:32:27,101 --> 00:32:28,376 not at all. 896 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,376 If you if you skill practice that you gotta 897 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,676 10 dues line. 898 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,576 Take the spot. 899 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,676 They were a Powerhouse 900 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:37,877 st. 901 00:32:37,901 --> 00:32:41,076 Augustine played for eight presidents and a pope. 902 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:42,576 The band's founder Edwin. 903 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,277 Hampton 904 00:32:43,301 --> 00:32:45,976 was a no-nonsense disciplinarian 905 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,876 who created the band's signature style 906 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,776 most marching bands what they call show bands, 907 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,276 they might dance or play popular music 908 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:55,776 the difference that sets st. 909 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,076 Augustine apart. 910 00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,776 We played popular music, but we had a 911 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,176 military style 912 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,577 that 913 00:33:02,601 --> 00:33:06,276 Mint eyes forward and chins up no matter what 914 00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:10,776 pristine uniforms perfect lines and gravity-defying knees 915 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:18,376 would whip Mardi Gras crowds into a frenzy. 916 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,276 In 1960 Ruby Bridges famously desegregated New Orleans Public 917 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,277 Schools, 918 00:33:24,301 --> 00:33:25,876 seven years later 919 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:26,076 st. 920 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:26,977 Augustine 921 00:33:27,001 --> 00:33:29,876 desegregated Mardi Gras parades 922 00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:32,376 band members say they were urinated on as they 923 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,276 passed under balconies. 924 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:34,576 Dr. 925 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,077 Kenneth st. 926 00:33:35,101 --> 00:33:38,076 Charles is the school's president today have people throwing 927 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:38,877 things at them. 928 00:33:38,901 --> 00:33:40,676 They had to not respond. 929 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,076 They had people yelling up sentences to them. 930 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,176 They could not respond. 931 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,376 Task of 932 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,177 a young guy. 933 00:33:47,201 --> 00:33:49,376 So it's a lot to ask of a 934 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,177 of a 935 00:33:50,201 --> 00:33:53,476 14 15 16 year old kid 936 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:53,976 to 937 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,777 Not 938 00:33:54,801 --> 00:33:58,376 retaliate, you know, we teach them as we do, 939 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,776 you know Christian faith 940 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,076 turn the other cheek. 941 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:01,376 Dr. 942 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:01,577 St. 943 00:34:01,601 --> 00:34:05,076 Charles knows the discipline required in those moments 944 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:06,276 in 1981. 945 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:07,576 He and his classmate 946 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,676 Ray Johnson 947 00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:10,676 were marching in a Mardi Gras parade for Saint 948 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:11,577 Augustine 949 00:34:11,601 --> 00:34:14,276 when an adult who was chaperoning the band 950 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:15,077 got into a scuffle. 951 00:34:15,101 --> 00:34:17,676 Couple with a plainclothes police officer 952 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:19,776 the officer pulled his gun 953 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,576 and then the gun went off 954 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,176 and all of a sudden 955 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,276 the police started showing up on Horseback 956 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,076 and bad guy disarray and stuff like that. 957 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,876 So one of our baritone players said Ray you 958 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:35,176 have blood on your uniform 959 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,976 and that's when I started feeling the pain and 960 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,076 the side of my face here. 961 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:40,976 So that's where the bullet went in my giant 962 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,176 came out the back of my neck. 963 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,676 You didn't realize you'd been shot. 964 00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:45,176 I didn't 965 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,777 I'll show 966 00:34:45,801 --> 00:34:47,776 one police officer was trying to give me first 967 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,077 date. 968 00:34:48,101 --> 00:34:49,576 So he said look, he said I got to 969 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,176 cut this uniform off you 970 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,076 to see if you hit anywhere else 971 00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,076 and I said hold up. 972 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,576 I said you can't cut this uniform 973 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,076 I said it has buttons on and I can 974 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,077 take it off. 975 00:35:01,101 --> 00:35:02,776 Why didn't you want him to cut the uniform? 976 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,277 Well, 977 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:07,476 I knew that if this man cut this uniform 978 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:07,677 Mr. 979 00:35:07,701 --> 00:35:09,476 Hampton will probably kill me 980 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:11,676 after college Johnson returned to st. 981 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:14,076 Augustine where he worked as an assistant to Edwin 982 00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:15,676 Hampton for 11 years 983 00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:18,676 before leaving to teach at another School 984 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,776 Hampton stayed for another 12 years until he passed 985 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,476 away in 2009 986 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:24,976 without him some at st. 987 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,577 Augustine. 988 00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:27,876 Thought the band had lost its Edge 989 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:32,276 Ray Johnson was hired back to sharpen it 990 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:32,577 for me. 991 00:35:32,601 --> 00:35:34,076 It was like 992 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:34,976 dude 993 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,977 you're about to 994 00:35:36,001 --> 00:35:38,076 fall. 995 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,176 Into the rituals of the tradition 996 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,076 Ray is like 997 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,876 the essence 998 00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:45,176 of saying all along 999 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,976 Bryce Miller played the trumpet under Hampton the band's 1000 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,976 founder and Johnson in the 90s 1001 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,976 his son Bryce a sophomore 1002 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,776 was a familiar name on Johnson's roster. 1003 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,276 He already knew who I was because of my 1004 00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:57,877 dad. 1005 00:35:57,901 --> 00:35:59,076 So 1006 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,376 He expect a lot from me 1007 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,276 now having my son 1008 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:05,776 participating not only in the band 1009 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,476 but with your man director 1010 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,876 It was a beautiful thing. 1011 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,976 Beautiful might not be the way some of the 1012 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,776 teenagers would describe the introduction 1013 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,976 now y'all want to meet the real. 1014 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,277 Mr. 1015 00:36:16,301 --> 00:36:17,476 Johnson. 1016 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:18,376 Y'all won't meet the real. 1017 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,677 Mr. 1018 00:36:18,701 --> 00:36:19,776 Johnson 1019 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,576 if y'all gonna say y'all the best band y'all 1020 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,076 gotta prove. 1021 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,576 Senor Cabral Johnson and eighth grader. 1022 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,276 Lorenzana re are part of the Drumline. 1023 00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,076 Honore wasn't much bigger than a snare drum when 1024 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:36,276 he decided he wanted to play for st. 1025 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:37,276 Augustine 1026 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:38,177 but held together. 1027 00:36:38,201 --> 00:36:39,276 That's an array. 1028 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:40,476 Tell me your impression of mr. 1029 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:41,177 Ray. 1030 00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:42,676 I think he's pretty nice. 1031 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,676 He could be placed at some times but that's 1032 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:45,776 all discipline. 1033 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,576 What do you mean if I see like 1034 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,176 he owes 1035 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,877 but 1036 00:36:49,901 --> 00:36:50,976 he has out of passion. 1037 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,676 Everything has to be shocked 1038 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:53,576 so tropical 1039 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,577 Don't know. 1040 00:36:54,601 --> 00:36:56,076 I need y'all to play it every time that's 1041 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:57,776 how y'all gonna get good at it. 1042 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,976 I'm sitting here talking to you. 1043 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,676 You're so 1044 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:02,976 almost soft-spoken and you see you out there on 1045 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,676 the blacktop and it gets up a level. 1046 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:06,277 All right, 1047 00:37:06,301 --> 00:37:07,376 that's by Design. 1048 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,976 I want you to be out your comfort zone 1049 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,776 because I need you to pay attention and when 1050 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,976 you pay attention 1051 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,276 you learn. 1052 00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,676 A few minutes into practice and it's clear. 1053 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:21,676 The band's program isn't just designed to produce good 1054 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:22,876 musicians. 1055 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,076 It's part of the school's larger mission 1056 00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:26,576 to produce good men. 1057 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,477 Now look good man. 1058 00:37:27,501 --> 00:37:28,776 Great job proud of y'all. 1059 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,477 Thank you. 1060 00:37:29,501 --> 00:37:31,776 That's the history of this of this school. 1061 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,476 Your teachers are strong intellectual black men 1062 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:35,477 your coaches 1063 00:37:35,501 --> 00:37:37,276 strong intellectual 1064 00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:38,277 Black Men 1065 00:37:38,301 --> 00:37:40,676 band director strong intellectual black men. 1066 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:44,176 So you see that wide range that wide display 1067 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,977 of again 1068 00:37:45,001 --> 00:37:46,376 blackmail. 1069 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,976 Success 1070 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,976 the school preaches discipline 1071 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,976 and the band demands it 1072 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,576 the only way to achieve Saint Augustine signature military 1073 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,577 formations 1074 00:37:56,601 --> 00:37:58,076 is to stay in line 1075 00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,976 and make sure the guy next to you is 1076 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,777 to 1077 00:38:00,801 --> 00:38:02,676 My family. 1078 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:03,876 I need to 1079 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,276 pick up the leg 1080 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:06,176 tell me about mr. 1081 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:06,577 Ray. 1082 00:38:06,601 --> 00:38:08,676 What has he done for the band one year 1083 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:09,976 ago is not the same man. 1084 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,876 You see today? 1085 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:11,577 I'm not gonna lie. 1086 00:38:11,601 --> 00:38:13,576 I was a little bit less discipline. 1087 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,477 But now 1088 00:38:14,501 --> 00:38:16,176 if you move you will be 1089 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,076 You're going to have them push-ups after that parade. 1090 00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,976 If you move you have to do push-ups almost 1091 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,877 definitely 1092 00:38:20,901 --> 00:38:22,676 the people try to get your attention. 1093 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:23,876 Oh they do 1094 00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:25,376 I remember my cousin has tried. 1095 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,176 My mother has tried to you just have to 1096 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,977 be 1097 00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:30,776 Eyes forward locked in 1098 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,477 right now. 1099 00:38:31,501 --> 00:38:34,076 Nothing seems to be moving in New Orleans. 1100 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,476 The pandemic has shuttered the city. 1101 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,176 Even Bourbon Street seems to have sobered up 1102 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,476 is your responsibility to learn st. 1103 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:45,176 Augustine has bounced between in-person and virtual learning all 1104 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,276 year long. 1105 00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:48,976 We can't decide what God is going to do 1106 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,076 if he say everything shut down 1107 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:54,376 everything shuts down. 1108 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,176 When band practice was canceled for a week, then 1109 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,977 a month 1110 00:38:58,001 --> 00:38:59,076 Lawrence Honore 1111 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,676 improvised 1112 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,476 when they're high school football game was nearly flooded 1113 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:09,376 the entire band called an audible. 1114 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,976 And shook the stadium from below 1115 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,876 and when they learned Mardi Gras parades were cancelled. 1116 00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:16,176 I don't know why y'all come and why I 1117 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,676 like it me Johnson 1118 00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,076 didn't miss a beat. 1119 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,876 Well, boom. 1120 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:21,877 Bubble 1121 00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:23,276 bubble. 1122 00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:24,776 Well, it's hard 1123 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,676 because it's a tradition, 1124 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,576 you know, just like anything else, you know, you 1125 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,676 got to suck it up and keep moving. 1126 00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,776 That's what Bryce Miller is doing. 1127 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,976 He is a professional musician 1128 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,376 the city shut down in March his work dried 1129 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,077 up. 1130 00:39:38,101 --> 00:39:40,476 He started volunteering with the band 1131 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:41,277 before this. 1132 00:39:41,301 --> 00:39:42,876 You know, your dad was busy all the time 1133 00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:43,677 right now. 1134 00:39:43,701 --> 00:39:45,776 You're seeing a lot more because the pandemic 1135 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,076 what's that been like for you? 1136 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:48,976 Like I'm actually proud of him because 1137 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,076 he's also 1138 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:50,676 kind of 1139 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:51,177 Going, 1140 00:39:51,201 --> 00:39:53,376 you know, the professional position can't do none of 1141 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,876 that jazz fest can't do anything, 1142 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:57,676 but he really loves what he does, but he 1143 00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:59,376 left his family more. 1144 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,376 I want him to be 1145 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,976 the best. 1146 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,676 The most successful 1147 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:10,376 That he can possibly be 1148 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,076 I don't want him to become 1149 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,076 a statistic. 1150 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:16,776 In any way, 1151 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,776 that's the realism. 1152 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,776 Raising a black boy 1153 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,276 and raising a black board and city like the 1154 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:26,876 ones 1155 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,776 that realism doesn't take holidays off 1156 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,176 Lauren's honorees good friend who attended a different school 1157 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,176 was recently killed walking out of a store 1158 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,776 all Christmas night. 1159 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,276 He had got caught in the crossfire 1160 00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:41,976 and I shot him in the head. 1161 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,977 And how old is he 1162 00:40:43,001 --> 00:40:44,076 14? 1163 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:47,676 The same age is honoring 1164 00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:50,176 he played at his buddies funeral and then his 1165 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,476 mom drove him straight to 1166 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:55,576 And practice with just about everything canceled this year. 1167 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,676 It's hard for anyone to find a reason to 1168 00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:58,876 get dressed. 1169 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,676 But that's exactly why Ray Johnson had the band 1170 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,276 do it anyway, 1171 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:06,077 and then 1172 00:41:06,101 --> 00:41:14,101 directed them to march through the neighborhood. 1173 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,776 The route black the Grandeur of a Mardi Gras 1174 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,577 parade 1175 00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:20,676 the locals poured onto their porches. 1176 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:21,976 Anyway, 1177 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,076 even when there are little scratchy 1178 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,576 and a lot loud 1179 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,276 it is a joyful sound in the Seventh Ward. 1180 00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:30,576 I think when people 1181 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,276 heard us starting to practice again and students coming 1182 00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:33,877 back 1183 00:41:33,901 --> 00:41:36,476 it gave us a sense of 1184 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:41,376 okay things are getting better. 1185 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,476 I think is so good that the band marches 1186 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:45,976 around the block cuz I feel like 1187 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,076 That is 1188 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:47,777 that is a know. 1189 00:41:47,801 --> 00:41:48,976 That is woman's. 1190 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,676 Yeah, that's what people need now in days because 1191 00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:52,876 of the fan dimmick. 1192 00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:56,376 They need something to cheer them up. 1193 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,876 They March down the block hanging a right at 1194 00:41:58,900 --> 00:41:59,877 Hope Street 1195 00:41:59,901 --> 00:42:01,576 Ray Johnson behind them 1196 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:09,600 at every step. 1197 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:19,476 Now an update on a story we reported last 1198 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:21,576 month called solarwinds 1199 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,076 a Russian plot sabotage software used by 18,000 computer 1200 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,077 networks. 1201 00:42:27,101 --> 00:42:29,776 At least nine government agencies are still trying to 1202 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,576 figure out which emails and files are in Russian 1203 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,776 hands 1204 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,476 hundreds of US tech companies were also compromised including 1205 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:38,676 Microsoft 1206 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,176 its president Brad Smith told us 1207 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,076 the hack was historic. 1208 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,876 This is the largest and most sophisticated attack. 1209 00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:48,476 The world has ever seen 1210 00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:50,676 now and even broader breach 1211 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:55,276 hackers used vulnerabilities in Microsoft's Exchange Server, its calendar 1212 00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:56,576 and email service 1213 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,576 to access hundreds of thousands of networks 1214 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,576 intelligence agencies this time 1215 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,376 suspect China. 1216 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,776 I'm Bill Whitaker 1217 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,276 will be back next week with another edition 1218 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:08,600 of 60 minutes.