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>> Whitaker: ON ANY GIVEN DAY,
NEARLY 300 LIFE-SAVING DRUGS MAY
BE IN SHORT SUPPLY IN AMERICA'S
HOSPITALS.
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OUR INVESTIGATION REVEALS
DOCTORS TAKING STEPS TO RATION
MEDICINE, INCLUDING FOR THE MOST
VULNERABLE PATIENTS.
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THINGS-- GLUCOSE, SUGAR.
BUT THE POINT IS, WE CAN'T GET
IT.
>> Whitaker: SO, THEN, WHAT ARE
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YOUR OPTIONS?
>> Goldstein: YOU DON'T HAVE
ANY.
YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
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>> Pelley: IN NEED OF SOME
HOPEFUL NEWS?
SO WERE THESE STUDENTS AND THEIR
FAMILIES.
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>> Kadens: GOOD AFTERNOON,
JOHNSON COLLEGE PREP!
( CHEERS )
>> Pelley: WE WENT TO THE
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SOUTHSIDE OF CHICAGO TO WITNESS
AN ACT OF KINDNESS SO
PROFOUND...
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
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...IT COULD LIFT THE DREAMS OF
THOUSANDS FOR GENERATIONS.
>> Newson: I'LL REMEMBER THIS
DAY FOR THE REST OF MY ENTIRE
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LIFE.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS DAY.
( TICKING )
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( SINGING "PAGLIACCI" )
>> O'Donnell: JONAS KAUFMANN IS
OPERA'S MOST DYNAMIC LEADING
MAN.
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( SINGING "LA FANCIULLA DEL
WEST" )
>> O'Donnell: HE LIKES TO SAY,"
OPERA IS A COMPETITIVE SPORT."
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>> ( VOCAL WARM-UPS )
>> O'Donnell: AND HE KEEPS HIS
VOICE AS PRECISELY TUNED AS A
PORSCHE AT LE MANS.
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AT THE BAVARIAN STATE OPERA, WE
WATCHED KAUFMANN IN HIS PRE-GAME
WARM-UP, PREPARING HIS EQUIPMENT
FOR A THREE-HOUR CONTEST WITH
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"AIDA."
( TICKING )
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>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.
>> I'M BILL WHITAKER.
>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
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>> I'M JON WERTHEIM.
>> I'M NORAH O'DONNELL.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.
THOSE STORIES TONIGHT, ON "60
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MINUTES."
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>> Bill Whitaker: AMERICAN
HOSPITALS HAVE BEEN LIVING WITH
SERIOUS DRUG SHORTAGES FOR MORE
THAN A DECADE.
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MOST DAYS, NEARLY 300 ESSENTIAL
DRUGS CAN BE IN SHORT SUPPLY.
AFTER MONTHS OF INVESTIGATION,
WE FOUND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF
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SUPPLY AND DEMAND; THE DRUGS ARE
NEEDED AND THE INGREDIENTS ARE
EASY TO MAKE.
IT'S THAT PHARMACEUTICAL
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COMPANIES HAVE STOPPED PRODUCING
MANY LIFE-SAVING GENERIC DRUGS
BECAUSE THEY MAKE TOO LITTLE
PROFIT.
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YET, YEAR AFTER YEAR, THE
GOVERNMENT STAYS ON THE
SIDELINES AS COMPANIES TAKE DRUG
PRODUCTION OFFLINE, AND DOCTORS
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WORRY THE SHORTAGES ARE
COMPROMISING PATIENT CARE.
>> Dr. Mitch Goldstein: JUST
NORMAL THINGS THAT SHOULD BE
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AVAILABLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
>> Whitaker: NEONATOLOGIST DR.
MITCH GOLDSTEIN TREATS THE MOST
VULNERABLE PATIENTS AT LOMA
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LINDA UNIVERSITY CHILDREN'S
HOSPITAL IN CALIFORNIA.
>> Dr. Goldstein: MOST OF THESE
BABIES WOULD FIT COMFORTABLY IN
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THE PALM OF YOUR HAND.
>> Whitaker: STRUGGLING TO HOLD
ON TO LIFE?
>> Dr. Goldstein: THEY REALLY
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ARE.
>> Whitaker: MANY OF THESE
PREMATURE AND SICK BABIES HAVE
UNDEVELOPED DIGESTIVE SYSTEMS,
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SO DR. GOLDSTEIN KEEPS THEM
ALIVE WITH INTRAVENOUS
NUTRIENTS, MANY OF WHICH ARE IN
SHORT SUPPLY.
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>> Dr. Goldstein: IT CAN BE
CERTAIN MINERALS.
IT COULD BE CERTAIN SALTS.
THINGS THAT YOU WOULD ORDINARILY
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FIND IN A COLLEGE CHEMISTRY LAB,
WE CAN'T GET.
>> Whitaker: BUT THESE ARE
BASIC.
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>> Dr. Goldstein: THESE ARE
BASIC THINGS-- GLUCOSE, SUGAR.
IT'S NOT HARD TO MAKE.
BUT THE POINT IS, WE CAN'T GET
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IT.
>> Whitaker: SO, THEN, WHAT ARE
YOUR OPTIONS?
>> Dr. Goldstein: YOU DON'T HAVE
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ANY.
YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
>> Anthony Gobin: AND IF IT'S
SOMETHING LIKE AN I.V. THAT
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NEEDS TO BE COMPOUNDED...
>> Whitaker: ANTONY GOBIN HEADS
THE PHARMACY AT LOMA LINDA
HOSPITAL.
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HE TOLD US SHORTAGES OF BASIC
DRUGS ARE A CONSTANT WORRY.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU FACE DRUG
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SHORTAGES?
>> Gobin: EVERY DAY.
>> Whitaker: IS THIS JUST
ANOTHER CASUALTY OF COVID?
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>> Gobin: NO.
SO, WE WERE DEALING WITH
SHORTAGES LONG BEFORE COVID.
THEY'RE ALL VERY OLD,
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FUNDAMENTAL DRUGS THAT EVERY
HOSPITAL IN THE COUNTRY NEEDS
AND USES.
>> Whitaker: DRUG SHORTAGES CAN
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KILL.
IN 2011, WHEN NOREPINEPHRINE, AN
OLD, LOW-PROFIT DRUG USED TO
TREAT SEPTIC SHOCK, WAS IN SHORT
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SUPPLY, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
AROUND THE COUNTRY DIED.
>> Pharmacist: YEAH, THAT ONE'S
ALSO STILL ON BACK ORDER.
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WE CAN'T GET IT.
>> Whitaker: JUST ABOUT EVERY
HOSPITAL IN THE U.S. HAS WEEKLY
DRUG SHORTAGE MEETINGS LIKE THIS
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ONE AT LOMA LINDA.
>> Gobin: DEXTROSE?
>> Pharmacist: DEXTROSE VIALS.
STILL COMPLETELY OUT OF THE
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VIALS.
WE ARE USING THESE SYRINGES FOR
EVERYTHING.
>> Whitaker: DURING A DRUG
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SHORTAGE, HOSPITALS MAY BE
FORCED TO SWITCH PATIENTS TO
LESS SAFE OR EFFECTIVE
ALTERNATIVE DRUGS.
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THEY RETRIEVE LEFTOVERS FROM
SINGLE-DOSE DRUG VIALS TO SHARE
WITH OTHER PATIENTS AND AVOID
WASTING A SINGLE DROP.
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>> Gobin: ASK THE PHARMACIST
ABOUT MAYBE FURTHER
CONCENTRATING TO TRY TO CONSERVE
SOME OF THESE 100-ML BAGS.
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YOU WOULD THINK TO YOURSELF,
"HOW HARD IS IT TO MANUFACTURE
SOME OF THESE SIMPLE MEDS LIKE
DEXTROSE OR STERILE WATER?"
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BUT, SOME OF THESE ARE LOW-
MARGIN DRUGS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT SMALLER
MARGIN, YOU DON'T HAVE A TON OF
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MANUFACTURERS MAKING THE
PRODUCT.
>> Whitaker: SARAH CARNEY AND
CYNDI VALENTA WERE FACING THE
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SAME WRENCHING ORDEAL AT LOMA
LINDA HOSPITAL; BOTH HAD
CHILDREN UNDERGOING CHEMOTHERAPY
FOR AGGRESSIVE LEUKEMIA.
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>> Carney: JUST SO MANY
DIFFERENT CHEMOS.
>> Whitaker: SARAH'S SON, MIKAH,
WAS IN PRE-KINDERGARTEN WHEN HE
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BEGAN THE PAINFUL TREATMENT.
>> Carney: HE WASN'T THE SAME
KID.
SEVERAL TIMES HE LOOKED AT US
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AND SAID, "WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
TO ME?
WHAT DID I DO WRONG?"
>> Valenta-Martinez: SO MUCH IS
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BEING THROWN AT YOU, NEW.
BACK THEN, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE TYPE OF
CHEMO THAT PEOPLE TOOK WHEN THEY
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HAD CANCER.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS THIS
WHOLE ROAD MAP, THIS REGIMEN WE
HAD TO FOLLOW.
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>> Whitaker: THEY GIVE YOU A
SCHEDULE, AND THEY TELL YOU YOU
MUST STICK TO THAT SCHEDULE.
>> Valenta-Martinez: EVERY
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FUNCTION OF YOUR LIFE WENT ON
THIS ROAD MAP.
SO, IF CHEMO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
GIVEN ON DAY ONE AND DAY FIVE,
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WHETHER THAT WAS A HOLIDAY OR
NOT, WE HAD TO TAKE JOHN IN TO
GET HIS INFUSIONS.
>> Whitaker: CYNDI'S 13-YEAR-OLD
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SON, JOHN, GAVE UP BASEBALL TO
BEAT HIS LEUKEMIA.
IN LATE 2019, HE SETTLED IN TO
HIS USUAL CHEMO CHAIR AND GOT
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SOME BAD NEWS: THE CHEMO DRUG
VINCRISTINE HE'D BEEN USING FOR
MORE THAN TWO YEARS WAS SUDDENLY
UNAVAILABLE.
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THIS WAS AFTER THE DOCTORS HAD
INSISTED WITH YOU THAT YOU KEEP
TO THIS SCHEDULE.
>> Valenta-Martinez: UH-HUH
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>> Whitaker: WHAT WAS JOHN'S
REACTION?
>> Valenta-Martinez: SCARED.
>> Whitaker: VINCRISTINE, AN
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ESSENTIAL DRUG FOR CHILDHOOD
LEUKEMIA, WAS IN SHORT SUPPLY
NATIONWIDE.
IT'S A CHIEF INGREDIENT OF A
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CHEMO COCKTAIL THAT HAS AN 80%
TO 90% CURE RATE.
WHEN SARAH LEARNED MIKAH
WOULDN'T GET HIS TREATMENT, SHE
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WAS ON THE PHONE FOR DAYS,
CALLING ANYONE WHO MIGHT KNOW
HOW TO GET THE LIFE-SAVING DRUG:
OTHER CANCER MOMS; THE HOSPITAL;
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PFIZER, THE DRUG MAKER.
>> Carney: I HONESTLY DIDN'T
EVEN KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE BECAUSE
THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY IS
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TELLING ME THEY HAVE IT, AND THE
HOSPITAL IS TELLING ME, "WE'VE--
WE CALL THEM EVERY DAY, AND THEY
ARE TELLING US THEY DON'T HAVE
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IT."
SO, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
>> Valenta-Martinez: AS A CANCER
MOM, WE SHOULDN'T BE FIGHTING
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FOR OUR CHILDREN TO GET A DRUG
THAT IS NEEDED, YOU KNOW?
WE ARE FIGHTING EVERY DAYTO
KEEP THEIR SPIRITS UP, TO CHANGE
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OUR WHOLE LIFE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE GETTING THIS TREATMENT.
THERE'S NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
IT'S JUST A GUT-WRENCHING
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FEELING OF JUST FEAR AND ANGER.
>> Whitaker: SARAH AND CYNDI
RAISED ALL KINDS OF ALARMS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA.
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A WEEK LATER, DRUG MAKER PFIZER
SHIPPED SCARCE DOSES OF
VINCRISTINE TO LOMA LINDA,
ENOUGH FOR MIKAH AND JOHN TO
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CONTINUE THEIR TREATMENTS.
>> HI!
HOW ARE YOU?
>> Warner: MILWAUKEE PEDIATRIC
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ONCOLOGIST CINDY SCHWARTZ IS A
COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THE
CHILDREN'S ONCOLOGY GROUP...
>> IT STINGS.
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>> Whitaker: ...A CONSORTIUM OF
CANCER RESEARCHERS AND
BIOETHICISTS FROM ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
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>> Dr. Schwartz: THESE RECENT
SHORTAGES HAVE BECOME VERY, VERY
SERIOUS AND REALLY HIT DRUGS
LIKE VINCRISTINE, THAT ARE IN
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EVERY REGIMEN.
>> Whitaker: VINCRISTINE WAS ONE
OF 16 CHEMO DRUGS IN SHORT
SUPPLY LAST YEAR.
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DR. SCHWARTZ TOLD US THE
SHORTAGES ARE FORCING DOCTORS TO
RATION SCARCE DRUGS.
DOES THAT PRESENT YOU WITH SOME
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ETHICAL DILEMMAS?
>> Dr. Schwartz: OF COURSE IT
DOES.
WHO WANTS TO BE PICKING HOW YOU
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PRIORITIZE ONE PERSON OVER
ANOTHER?
>> Whitaker: ONE CHILD OVER
ANOTHER.
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>> Dr. Schwartz: ONE CHILD OVER
ANOTHER.
>> OH, NO!
>> Whitaker: I'M JUST TRYING TO
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COME UP WITH SOME EXPLANATION
FOR WHY A DRUG THAT IS KNOWN TO
SAVE LIVES IS NOT VALUED, WHY
IT'S...
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>> Dr. Schwartz: IT SHOULD BE A
TOP VALUE.
>> Whitaker: UNLIKE NEWER BRAND-
NAME DRUGS THAT COST AS MUCH AS
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SIX FIGURES PER DOSE,
VINCRISTINE, A LOW-MARGIN"
"GENERIC" DRUG AROUND SINCE THE
1960s, COSTS ABOUT $5 PER DOSE.
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MONTHS BEFORE THE SHORTAGE, ONE
OF THE TWO REMAINING VINCRISTINE
MANUFACTURERS, TEVA
PHARMACEUTICALS, ANNOUNCED IT
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WOULD STOP MAKING VINCRISTINE
FOR U.S. HOSPITALS.
>> Ross Day: THEY INDICATED THAT
IT WAS A BUSINESS DECISION.
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THEY COULD MAKE MORE MONEY ON
MORE PROFITABLE DRUGS THAN
VINCRISTINE.
>> Whitaker: ROSS DAY IS A
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FORMER DIRECTOR OF VIZIENT, THE
COUNTRY'S LARGEST GROUP
PURCHASING ORGANIZATION, OR
G.P.O., A HEALTH SERVICES
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COMPANY THAT NEGOTIATES
CONTRACTS BETWEEN HOSPITALS,
DRUG MAKERS, AND MEDICAL
SUPPLIERS.
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>> Day: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
COMPANIES IN GOOD CONSCIENCE CAN
MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS.
NONE OF THESE COMPANIES ARE POOR
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COMPANIES.
THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT
MAKE AS MUCH ON ONE DRUG AND
STILL MAKE PLENTY OF MARGIN AND
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PROFIT ON OTHER DRUGS.
>> Bill Simmons: THOSE KINDS OF
ECONOMIC DECISIONS ARE MADE NOT
BECAUSE THAT-- THAT PERSON
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RUNNING THAT BUSINESS IS
MALICIOUS IN THEIR INTENT;
THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT
PLANT OPERATING.
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>> Whitaker: WE ALSO MET WITH
BILL SIMMONS, A FORMER HIGH-
RANKING GENERIC DRUG EXECUTIVE.
>> Simmons: Y-- YOU HAVE TO KEEP
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IN MIND THAT CORPORATIONS AREN'T
CHARITIES.
>> SO, HOW DOES THIS WORK?
>> Whitaker: THE TWO FORMER
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EXECUTIVES ONCE NEGOTIATED DRUG
CONTRACTS ACROSS THE TABLE FROM
ONE ANOTHER.
THEY STILL HAVE DISAGREEMENTS.
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>> Simmons: YOU HAVE THE GENERIC
DRUG MANUFACTURERS.
>> Whitaker: WE ASKED THEM TO
SPELL OUT THE ECONOMICS OF
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GENERIC DRUG SHORTAGES FROM THE
MANUFACTURERS ON THE LEFT
HERE...
>> Simmons: THEN IT GOES TO A
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DRUG DISTRIBUTOR OR WHOLESALER.
>> Whitaker: ...TO THE HOSPITALS
AND PATIENTS ON THE RIGHT.
>> Simmons: AND YOU GOT THE
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PATIENT OVER HERE.
>> Whitaker: WE WERE HOPING A
DIAGRAM WOULD HELP.
>> Simmons: THERE'S A GATEKEEPER
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HERE.
I'M PUTTING "G.P.O." IN.
IT'S CALLED A GROUP PURCHASING
ORGANIZATION, AND THAT
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ORGANIZATION NEGOTIATES PRICES
FOR THE HOSPITAL COLLECTIVELY IN
AN EFFORT TO GET LOWER PRICING
ON PRODUCTS.
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>> Whitaker: AT LEAST THAT'S THE
WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
>> Simmons: AND YOU GOT MONEY
GOING THIS WAY, THEY PAY IT, AND
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THEN THEY SELL IT TO THE
HOSPITAL.
AND THEN, IT COMES BACK THIS
WAY.
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>> Day: THE CONTRACT PRICE.
>> Simmons: A CONCEPT OF FEE-
FOR-SERVICE.
>> Day: A COST-MINUS.
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>> Whitaker: WHY IS ALL OF THAT
PART OF THE PROCESS?
>> Simmons: THE HONEST ANSWER TO
THAT IS: THIS PRIVATE LABEL,
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FEE-FOR-SERVICE, COST-MINUS--
THESE ARE THINGS TO CREATE LACK
OF TRANSPARENCY TO PRICING.
>> Whitaker: BUT, THIS CONFUSION
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IS ON PURPOSE?
>> Simmons: YEAH.
I WANT TO CHARGE DIFFERENT
PRICES AND NOT HAVE CLARITY
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AROUND WHAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY
PAYING.
>> Whitaker: SO FAR, THIS IS
CLEAR AS MUD.
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>> Day: BUT I'M NOT SURE THERE
ARE MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO
ADMINISTER THE SUPPLY CHAIN, AT
LEAST I'VE NOT BEEN PRESENTED
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ONE.
>> Whitaker: THERE'S NOTHING
MORE EFFICIENT THAN THIS?
BUT ALL THE ARROWS AND ACRONYMS
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POINT TO ONE THING: A BROKEN
SYSTEM, WHICH OUR INVESTIGATION
FOUND IS A ROOT CAUSE OF DRUG
SHORTAGES.
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TAKE THE $5 CANCER DRUG
VINCRISTINE.
THE MIDDLEMEN-- THE GROUP
PURCHASING ORGANIZATIONS AND
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DRUG DISTRIBUTORS-- TAKE THEIR
CUT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE,
MARKETING, AND OTHER FEES AND
HOSPITAL INCENTIVES.
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THE DRUG MANUFACTURERS END UP
WITH JUST A SMALL FRACTION OF
WHAT THE PATIENT PAYS.
MANY HAVE SIMPLY STOPPED MAKING
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THE LEAST PROFITABLE DRUGS.
>> Simmons: WE ARE
SYSTEMATICALLY SHUTTING DOWN ALL
OF OUR U.S. MANUFACTURING
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BECAUSE WE DO NOT PAY ENOUGH
MONEY FOR THE DRUGS TO THE
MANUFACTURERS, AND NOT ENOUGH
MONEY IS PAID BECAUSE OF THE
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MIDDLEMEN.
>> Whitaker: I GUARANTEE YOU
THERE'D BE PATIENTS OVER HERE
WHO WOULD SAY, "I WOULD PAY MORE
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IF I COULD BE GUARANTEED I WOULD
GET THESE DRUGS WHEN I NEED
THEM."
>> Simmons: BILL, I THINK, THIS
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PERSON OVER HERE MIGHT BE
WILLING TO PAY ANOTHER 20 BUCKS,
BUT THESE PEOPLE WILL-- WILL
ABSORB A LOT OF THAT $20 BEFORE
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IT GETS OVER HERE.
>> Whitaker: GROUP PURCHASING
ORGANIZATIONS CONTROL MORE THAN
$250 BILLION IN HOSPITAL
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PURCHASES ANNUALLY.
THE BIGGEST THREE ACCOUNT FOR
ABOUT 90% OF THE BUSINESS.
THEY TYPICALLY AWARD THE
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CONTRACT TO THE MANUFACTURER
WITH THE LOWEST-PRICE DRUG.
ADD IN ALL THE COMPLEX FEES AND
THE GROUP PURCHASING
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ORGANIZATIONS GROW WEALTHIER
WHILE LOSING MANUFACTURERS ARE
SQUEEZED OUT.
>> Simmons: IF YOU REFUSE TO
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SELL THROUGH A GROUP PURCHASING
ORGANIZATION, OR THROUGH DRUG
WHOLESALERS, YOU WILL NOT EXIST.
>> Whitaker: YOU'RE OUT?
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>> Simmons: YOU ARE OUT.
>> Day: IT'S NOT A G.P.O.'S BEST
INTEREST AT ALL, TO DRIVE
ANYBODY OUT OF THE MARKET.
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I'VE ATTRIBUTED MORE OF THE DRUG
SHORTAGE PROBLEM TO SOME
DECISIONS BY F.D.A. TO START
EVALUATING MANUFACTURERS
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DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY HAD IN THE
PAST.
>> Whitaker: THE F.D.A., TO
IMPROVE PATIENT SAFETY, RAISED
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THE BAR ON QUALITY CONTROLS AT
DRUG PLANTS.
SEVERAL WERE SHUT DOWN.
>> Simmons: THE F.D.A. WANTS
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HIGHER-QUALITY PRODUCTS THAT
COST MORE MONEY TO MAKE, AND THE
G.P.O.s WANT TO DRIVE THE PRICE
DOWN TO WHOEVER WILL SUPPLY THEM
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THE LOWEST PRICE, WHICH IS
USUALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
INVESTING IN EQUIPMENT, NOT
INVESTING IN QUALITY.
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AND THOSE TWO THINGS DON'T GO
TOGETHER.
>> Whitaker: IN JULY 2019, WHEN
TEVA PHARMACEUTICALS STOPPED
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MAKING VINCRISTINE FOR LACK OF
PROFIT, PFIZER'S GENERIC
DIVISION, HOSPIRA, BECAME THE
SOLE SUPPLIER.
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IN A LETTER TO THE F.D.A. WE
OBTAINED, PFIZER CALLED THE
SITUATION UNTENABLE.
TWO MONTHS LATER, A QUALITY
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CONTROL ISSUE FORCED PFIZER TO
SUSPEND PRODUCTION FOR SIX
WEEKS, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON IN
DRUG MANUFACTURING.
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WHEN YOU'RE DOWN TO JUST A
COUPLE OF MANUFACTURERS, AND ONE
IS FOUND TO HAVE QUALITY CONTROL
PROBLEMS...
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>> Simmons: YEAH.
>> Whitaker: ...WHERE DO YOU GO?
THERE'S NO PLAN B?
>> Simmons: THERE IS NO PLAN B.
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>> Whitaker: 40% OF GENERIC
DRUGS NOW HAVE JUST ONE
MANUFACTURER.
>> Day: I THINK THE GOVERNMENT
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COULD PLAY A ROLE IN KEEPING
SOME OF THESE DRUG MANUFACTURERS
VIABLE BECAUSE THIS IS JUST AS
MUCH OF AN EMERGENCY IN MY MIND
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AS THE PANDEMIC IS.
BUT I'M NOT READY TO SAY THE
CURRENT MODEL IS READY TO BLOW
UP.
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MAYBE TWEAK.
>> Whitaker: BACK AT LOMA
LINDA...
>> Dr. Goldstein: I THINK ABOUT
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THE BABIES I TAKE CARE OF.
>> Whitaker: ...DR. MITCH
GOLDSTEIN, LIKE DOCTORS ALL
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IS BRACING
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FOR MORE SHORTAGES.
>> Dr. Goldstein: IT'S HORRIBLE.
AND IT'S LIKE BEING IN A SIEGE
AND YOU'RE-- YOU'RE RUNNING OUT
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OF AMMUNITION.
SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT IT, AND
IT'S JUST, "HOW ARE WE GOING TO
SURVIVE THIS NEXT DAY?
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THE DAY AFTER?
AND WHAT IS THE NEW PROBLEM?
WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON?
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT
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WEEK?"
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( TICKING )
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>> Scott Pelley: YOU HAVE TO
ADMIRE THE AMBITION OF AN INNER-
CITY HIGH SCHOOL THAT CALLS
ITSELF JOHNSON COLLEGE PREP,
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ESPECIALLY WHEN A THIRD OF THE
STUDENTS HAVE NO PERMANENT HOME
AND MANY DODGE VIOLENCE JUST TO
GET TO CLASS.
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BUT THE STUDENTS IN THIS CHICAGO
PUBLIC SCHOOL BELIEVE IN THEIR
NAME.
THEY'VE DONE THE WORK.
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THEY'VE BEEN ACCEPTED TO
COLLEGE.
TROUBLE IS, FEW HAVE THE MONEY
TO GO.
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JOHNSON COLLEGE PREP NEEDED
SOMETHING LIKE A MIRACLE, AND WE
WERE THERE WHEN THE MIRACLE
CALLED "HOPE CHICAGO" ARRIVED.
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>> WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE A SLOPE
OF ZERO?
>> Pelley: JOHNSON COLLEGE PREP,
ON CHICAGO'S SOUTH SIDE,
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EMBRACES NEARLY 500 STUDENTS.
>> Jonas Cleaves: EVERY STUDENT
THAT WALKS IN OUR DOOR DESERVES
AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ENGAGED BY
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STAFF MEMBERS WHO LOVE THEM FOR
NO OTHER REASON EXCEPT THE FACT
THAT THEY ARE ONE OF OUR
STUDENTS.
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>> Pelley: PRINCIPAL JONAS
CLEAVES KNOWS THE NAMES AND THE
DREAMS IN THE HALLS OF JOHNSON
COLLEGE PREP.
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"COLLEGE" IS YOUR MIDDLE NAME.
>> Cleaves: ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
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WE WANT KIDS TO HAVE A SHOT.
>> Pelley: BUT, ON THE SOUTH
SIDE, "A SHOT" IS HOBBLED BY
STUMBLING BLOCKS AND TALL
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BARRIERS ON A NARROW PATH TO THE
DREAM.
ONE-THIRD OF HOUSEHOLDS HERE
BRING IN LESS THAN $25,000 A
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YEAR.
>> Cleaves: RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST
40% OF OUR SENIOR CLASS HAVE
IDENTIFIED EITHER THEMSELVES OR
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A VERY CLOSE RELATIVE BEING
IMPACTED BY GUN VIOLENCE.
LIKE, IMAGINE THE TRAUMA
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
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>> Pelley: YOU MUST WORRY ABOUT
THEM WHEN THEY'RE NOT UNDER THIS
ROOF.
>> Cleaves: IT'S A STRUGGLE, YOU
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KNOW, WHEN WE GO ON, YOU KNOW,
THANKSGIVING BREAKS OR ANY
HOLIDAY BREAK.
WE GET THOSE CALLS WHEN THERE'S
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A STUDENT WHO HAS BEEN SHOT OR
ASSAULTED.
WE RECEIVE THOSE CALLS FROM
PARENTS AND STUDENTS WHO NEED
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SUPPORT FINANCIALLY WITH A MAJOR
BILL.
>> Pelley: FOR A LOT OF YOUR
STUDENTS, SCHOOL IS THE SAFEST,
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BEST PART OF THE DAY.
>> Cleaves: IT'S A SANCTUARY.
>> Pelley: AND AN INSPIRATION.
>> Ajani Cunningham: I'M A
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MARINE CADET.
I WILL BE TRUE TO MYSELF AND
OTHERS.
>> Pelley: AJANI CUNNINGHAM
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JOINED MARINE CORPS' JUNIOR
R.O.T.C. TO ADD SOME AMMO TO HIS
MANY APPLICATIONS FOR FINANCIAL
AID.
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>> Cunningham: BECAUSE I AM IN A
1,000 PROGRAMS ALL AT ONCE,
INCLUDING R.O.T.C., DEBATE.
I HAVE HONORS AND A.P. CLASSES.
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I'VE TAKEN COLLEGE COURSES.
SO, I'M JUST TRYING TO DO THE
MOST THAT I CAN TO MAKE COLLEGE
THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.
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>> Kavarrion Newson: WELL,
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR
WATCHING OVER ALL OF US THIS
MORNING, WAKING US UP AND
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CLOTHING US ALL IN OUR RIGHT
MIND.
> Pelley: KAVARRION NEWSON'S
HOPES LEAN ON FAITH.
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>> Newson: AMEN.
>> Pelley: HE TOLD US THAT'S HOW
HE ENDURED BEING RAISED BY HIS
GRANDMOTHER, WHO WAS DRUG-
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ADDICTED AT THE TIME.
>> Newson: I HAVE SO MUCH FAITH
IN GOD.
IT'S LIKE, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO
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WORRY ABOUT MONEY.
ANYTHING I'VE EVER PUT IN GOD'S
HANDS, IT NEVER FAILED.
SO, I KNOW HE'LL COME THROUGH.
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I KNOW IT, FOR A FACT.
>> Cleaves: YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
STUDENTS WHO ARE DOING
CONSTRUCTION, WORKING IN
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WAREHOUSES, WORKING THE NIGHT
SHIFT, GETTING OFF AT 6:00 A.M.
AND COMING TO SCHOOL.
>> Pelley: YOU'VE GOT TO ADMIRE
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THE DEDICATION AND THE
CHARACTER.
>> Cleaves: WHAT COULD THAT KID
DO IF GIVEN THE CHANCE?
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>> Pelley: WE TOLD THE STUDENTS
WE WERE WRITING A STORY ABOUT
COLLEGE AMBITION, WHICH WASN'T
THE WHOLE TRUTH.
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WE KNEW WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN
BECAUSE WE'D MET THE MAN WHO
WOULD CHANGE THEIR LIVES.
>> Pete Kadens: I'M A GUY WHO
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GOT REALLY LUCKY IN LIFE.
I'M A GUY WHO WON A LOT OF
LOTTERIES-- THE BIRTH LOTTERY,
THE ZIP CODE LOTTERY, THE
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EDUCATION LOTTERY.
AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT HAVING
WON ALL THOSE LOTTERIES AND ALL
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING,
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IT'S MY CHANCE TO GIVE THEM
THOSE SAME OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT'S WHO I AM.
>> Pelley: HE IS PETE KADENS, A
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CHICAGO MILLIONAIRE WHO RETIRED
AT THE AGE OF 40 AFTER STARTING
FIVE COMPANIES INCLUDING ONE OF
THE LARGEST GROWERS OF CANNABIS.
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SENSE OF GUILT?
>> Kadens: YES.
100%.
I FEEL HORRIBLY GUILTY THAT I
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CREATED THIS AMOUNT OF WEALTH
AND THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE
STILL SUFFERING.
>> Pelley: SUFFERING, IN HIS
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VIEW, BECAUSE THE RICHEST
COUNTRY IN HISTORY HAS NOT FOUND
A WAY TO EDUCATE ALL ITS
CHILDREN.
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>> Kadens: I USED TO THINK THAT
COLLEGE AND GOING TO COLLEGE WAS
THE GREAT EQUALIZER.
IN TRUTH, WHAT WE'VE COME TO
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FIND OUT, COLLEGE IS THE GREAT
STRATIFIER IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT FURTHERS THE GAP BETWEEN THE
HAVES AND THE HAVE-NOTS.
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MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T REALIZE
THAT.
AND THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW
EXPENSIVE IT IS FOR A MINORITY
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STUDENT IN A DISINVESTED
COMMUNITY.
THEY DON'T JUST GET A BUNCH OF
FINANCIAL AID.
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AND IF THEY DO, THEY COME OUT
WITH A BOATLOAD OF DEBT SO THEY
CAN'T COMPETE WITH THEIR WHITE
SUBURBAN CONTEMPORARIES, EVEN
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AFTER COLLEGE.
I JUST THINK THAT,
FUNDAMENTALLY, THERE'S A
MISUNDERSTANDING IN THIS COUNTRY
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THAT COLLEGE IS ACCESSIBLE TO
EVERYBODY.
AND THE FACT IS, NO, IT IS NOT.
>> Pelley: BUT IT WAS ABOUT TO
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BE ACCESSIBLE AT JOHNSON COLLEGE
PREP.
WHEN EVERYONE'S ASSEMBLED, AND
NO ONE KNOWS WHY, YOU'RE GOING
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TO LOOK ACROSS THAT ROOM, AND
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE?
>> Cleaves: I'M GOING TO SEE
STUDENTS AND FAMILIES WHO
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DESERVE THIS MOMENT.
YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED ME EARLIER
ABOUT STUDENTS THAT WE'VE LOST,
AND WE OFTEN TELL OUR FAMILIES
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IN THOSE MOMENTS TO, LIKE, "HANG
IN THERE," YOU KNOW, "STAY IN
THE FIGHT, DON'T GIVE UP, A
BETTER DAY IS COMING."
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THIS IS THEIR BETTER DAY.
>> Pelley: AJANI CUNNINGHAM WAS
THERE, BESIDE KAVARRION NEWSON.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE
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ASSEMBLY WAS ABOUT OR WHO PETE
KADENS WAS...
>> Kadens: GOOD AFTERNOON,
JOHNSON COLLEGE PREP!
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>> Pelley: ...BUT THEY WILL
NEVER FORGET.
>> Kadens: YOU ARE GOING TO WALK
OUT OF HERE FOREVER CHANGED
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TODAY, AND THAT IS BECAUSE IF
YOU ARE A FRESHMAN, SOPHOMORE,
JUNIOR OR SENIOR AT JOHNSON
COLLEGE PREP, YOUR COLLEGE
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TUITION, YOUR ROOM AND BOARD,
YOUR BOOKS AND FEES WILL BE PAID
FOR.
YOU WILL GO TO COLLEGE FOR FREE!
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( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> Pelley: FREE.
KADENS' CHARITY, CALLED HOPE
CHICAGO, WILL PAY IN-STATE
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TUITION AND EXPENSES-- AN ACT OF
KINDNESS SO GREAT, IT HAD TO BE
SQUEEZED TO FIT WITHIN BELIEF.
THAT SAME WEEK, KADENS MADE THE
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SAME ANNOUNCEMENT AT FOUR
ADDITIONAL CHICAGO HIGH SCHOOLS.
>> Kadens: LOOK, WE ARE
OPERATING IN A CITY, HERE IN
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CHICAGO, WHERE THE NUMBER ONE
CAUSE OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN
UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IS GUNSHOT
WOUNDS.
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NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT
ANYMORE.
IT'S NOW OR NEVER.
>> Pelley: HOW MANY TUITIONS IN
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CHICAGO ALTOGETHER?
>> Kadens: WE WILL END UP
FUNDING ABOUT 30,000 INDIVIDUALS
TO GO TO COLLEGE OR TRADE SCHOOL
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IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.
>> Pelley: OVER WHAT PERIOD OF
TIME?
>> Kadens: OVER THE NEXT DECADE.
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THAT MAKES THIS THE LARGEST
SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM IN THE
COUNTRY.
>> Pelley: KAVARRION NEWSON
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DEEPLY APPRECIATED PETE KADENS,
BUT HE TOLD US HE KNEW WHO HE
NEEDED TO THANK.
>> Newson: WELL, I DIDN'T GET TO
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PRAY ABOUT THE ASSEMBLY YET
BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO
PROCESS ALL OF THOSE FEELINGS,
BECAUSE OF WHAT JUST HAPPENED
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WAS, I MEAN, SIMPLY AMAZING.
BUT GOD WILL GET SOME SPECIAL
TIME FROM ME TONIGHT.
>> Pelley: BUT IN THE ASSEMBLY,
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THERE WAS MORE.
JUST WHEN A BETTER DAY COULDN'T
BE ANY BETTER, JANICE JACKSON
TOOK THE STAGE.
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THE FORMER C.E.O. OF CHICAGO
PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS THE NEW HEAD
OF HOPE CHICAGO.
>> Jackson: PETE LEFT ONE
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IMPORTANT PART OUT.
PARENTS, GUESS WHAT?
YOU'RE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL,
TOO.
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>> Pelley: HOPE CHICAGO IS
SENDING A PARENT OR GUARDIAN
FROM EACH FAMILY TO COLLEGE.
FOR AJANI CUNNINGHAM'S MOTHER,
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INCOMPREHENSION WAS FINALLY
BROKEN BY THE MEMORIES OF HER
DREAMS DEFERRED.
>> Yolanda White: WE HAVE ALWAYS
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HAD A TOO-CLOSE RELATIONSHIP
WITH POVERTY AND LACK.
>> Pelley: ONCE HOMELESS,
YOLANDA WHITE, A SINGLE MOTHER,
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CLEARED A PATH FOR FIVE
CHILDREN-- TWO THROUGH COLLEGE
ALREADY.
>> White: AND I'VE TAKEN ALL THE
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HITS, SO NOW THEY CAN GO AND,
YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE
BEEN THE SHIELD.
AND THEY CAN BE FREE TO DO WHAT
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THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR
LIVES.
>> Pelley: NOW, IT'S HER TURN.
SHE'D LIKE TO TAKE TECHNOLOGY
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CLASSES TO GROW HER BAKING
BUSINESS.
AJANI, YOUR MOM'S FEROCIOUS.
>> Cunningham: SHE'S AMAZING.
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>> Jackson: THE IDEA OF PARENTS
AND STUDENTS GOING BACK TO
SCHOOL TOGETHER, I THINK THAT
CAN BE POWERFUL AND MOTIVATING
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IN WAYS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN
THOUGHT ABOUT.
>> Pelley: JANICE JACKSON, THE
FORMER HEAD OF CHICAGO SCHOOLS,
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TOLD US SHE DECIDED TO TAKE PETE
KADENS' OFFER TO RUN HOPE
CHICAGO LARGELY BECAUSE OF
TUITION FOR PARENTS.
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WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN
FROM THE FACT THAT YOU'RE
SENDING THE PARENTS TO COLLEGE?
>> Jackson: I EXPECT THEM TO GET
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BETTER JOBS, THAT THEY'RE GOING
TO BE IN A POSITION TO TAKE CARE
OF THEIR FAMILIES.
I WAS TALKING TO ONE PARENT WHO
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TOLD ME SHE HAD TWO JOBS.
THAT IS A BARRIER.
SO, I THINK WHEN YOU STRENGTHEN
THE FAMILY, YOU STRENGTHEN WHOLE
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COMMUNITIES.
AND ULTIMATELY, WE'RE GOING TO
MAKE OUR COUNTRY STRONGER.
>> Pelley: YOU'RE NOT JUST
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TRYING TO EDUCATE THIS YOUNG
GENERATION; YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX
THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO.
>> Jackson: WE HAVE TO CATCH UP.
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THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND I MAY BE BIASED, BUT I DO
BELIEVE EDUCATION IS THE SINGLE
MOST POWERFUL WAY TO DISRUPT
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GENERATIONAL POVERTY.
IT IS.
AND FOR SOME OF OUR PARENTS,
ONCE THEY HAVE CHILDREN, THEY
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PUT THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS ON
HOLD.
AND SO, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO GET BACK IN THE GAME.
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>> Pelley: OF COURSE, MONEY
ISN'T EVERYTHING.
KADENS TOLD US COUNSELORS
WORKING WITH HOPE CHICAGO WILL
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GUIDE PARENTS AND STUDENTS ALL
THE WAY TO SUCCESS.
>> Kadens: THESE STUDENTS NEED
LIFE SKILLS TRAINING.
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THEY NEED MENTORSHIP.
THEY NEED FINANCIAL LITERACY.
THEY NEED GUIDANCE COUNSELING
AND CURRICULUM ADVICE.
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WHAT HOPE CHICAGO BRINGS WITH
OUR PARTNER AGENCIES IS, WE WRAP
ALL THOSE SERVICES AROUND THOSE
STUDENTS SO THEY'RE NOT JUST
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STRANDED WITH A BOATLOAD OF
CASH.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE AND
TEAMS AROUND THEM TO ENGAGE THEM
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SO THEY CAN MAKE IT THROUGH
COLLEGE.
>> POVERTY IS INTERGENERATIONAL.
>> Pelley: HOPE CHICAGO IS PETE
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KADENS' SECOND TUITION CHARITY.
IN 2020, HE FUNDED SCHOLARSHIPS
IN TOLEDO, HIS HOMETOWN.
KADENS HAS PLEDGED $15 MILLION
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TO HIS SCHOLARSHIPS.
HIS HOPE CHICAGO PARTNER, TED
KOENIG, KICKED IN TEN MILLION.
CORPORATIONS ARE ALSO DONATING.
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>> Dj And Kids: WE GOING TO
COLLEGE FOR FREE!
WE GOING TO COLLEGE FOR FREE!
>> Pelley: HOPE CHICAGO WILL
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COST $1 BILLION, WHICH SOME CALL
AMBITIOUS.
>> Kadens: AND WHEN THEY SAY
"AMBITIOUS," THEY DON'T
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NECESSARILY MEAN IT IN A
POSITIVE WAY.
THEY MEAN "CRAZY."
BUT HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW, SCOTT.
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IF WE EDUCATE OUR FAMILIES,
WE'LL RESOLVE A LOT OF THE
VIOLENCE ISSUES.
WE'LL START TO PUT PHARMACIES
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AND OFFICE BUILDINGS AND GROCERY
STORES INTO THESE COMMUNITIES.
AND SO, YEAH, WE MAY BE CRAZY,
BUT THIS IS AN ECONOMIC
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DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT AS MUCH
AS IT IS AN EDUCATIONAL
INVESTMENT.
AND WE HAVE TO DO IT.
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>> Pelley: SO MANY PEOPLE WHO
HAVE LIVED YOUNG LIVES LIKE
YOURS WITH ALL THESE OBSTACLES
ARE JUST CASUALTIES IN AMERICA.
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>> Newson: RIGHT.
>> Pelley: AND I WONDER WHY
YOU'RE SITTING HERE DOING SO
WELL AND GOING TO COLLEGE NEXT.
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>> Newson: BECAUSE I NEVER GAVE
UP.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, SO, YOU KNOW
HOW YOU CAN PLAY BASKETBALL?
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EVERY SHOT THAT YOU SHOOT WILL
NOT ALWAYS GO INTO THE NET.
BUT I GUARANTEE YOU IF YOU TRY
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO
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SHOOT THAT BALL, ONE TIME IT'S
GOING TO GO INTO THE NET.
SO, THAT'S HOW I LIVE MY LIFE ON
TRYING THIS THING OVER AND OVER
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AGAIN.
EVERY DAY WE WAKE UP, WE HAVE
NEW MERCY AND NEW GRACE.
>> Pelley: WELL, YOU DRAINED A
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THREE DURING THE ASSEMBLY TODAY.
>> Newson: I'M STILL PROCESSING
THOSE FEELINGS.
TODAY, I'LL REMEMBER THIS DAY
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FOR THE REST OF MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS DAY.
>> Pelley: GRACE AND PROSPERITY
ONCE RAISED MONUMENTS ON THE
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SOUTH SIDE.
NOW, EVEN WITH SO MUCH FORSAKEN,
PETE KADENS SEES THROUGH THE
NEGLECT TO THE VIBRANCE STILL
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INSIDE.
>> Kadens: I THINK MANY
COMMUNITIES AROUND THIS COUNTRY
CAN HAVE HOPE.
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WHY CAN'T THERE BE HOPE PEORIA,
AND HOPE INDIANAPOLIS, AND HOPE
CHARLOTTE?
I'D LOVE TO SEE OTHER
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PHILANTHROPISTS IN OTHER
COMMUNITIES TAKE UP THIS
ENDEAVOR AND OWN IT.
>> Pelley: CALLING ALL
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BILLIONAIRES.
>> Kadens: CALLING ALL
BILLIONAIRES.
CALLING ALL CORPORATIONS.
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WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS ACTION.
WE WANT OUR CORPORATIONS, OUR
FOUNDATIONS TO JOIN US IN THIS
ACTION.
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( TICKING )
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>> Announcer: WHAT IS IT LIKE TO
BE IN COLLEGE WITH A "HOPE"
SCHOLARSHIP?
>> Cayla: I LOVE CAMPUS LIFE.
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>> Announcer: GO TO
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( TICKING )
>> Norah O'Donnell: "60 MINUTES"
HAS ALWAYS HAD A SOFT SPOT FOR
THE OPERA.
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MAYBE BECAUSE, LIKE US, OPERA IS
IN THE STORYTELLING BUSINESS,
WITH BIG, SWEEPING, IMPROBABLE
TALES AND CHARACTERS.
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TONIGHT, WE INTRODUCE YOU TO ONE
OF ITS STAR STORYTELLERS, A 52-
YEAR-OLD TENOR FROM GERMANY
NAMED JONAS KAUFMANN.
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CRITICS APPLAUD KAUFMANN'S
SINGING, RANGE, AND SWAGGER ON
STAGE.
OTHERS POINT TO HIS HISTORY OF
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HIGH-PROFILE CANCELLATIONS.
INTERRUPTED BY THE PANDEMIC, WE
HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE TENOR
FOR YEARS.
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NOW, WE FINALLY RAISE THE
CURTAIN SO YOU CAN HEAR JONAS
KAUFMANN MAKE ONE OF OPERA'S
MOST FAMOUS ARIAS HIS OWN.
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>> ( SINGING "NESSUN DORMA" )
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>> O'Donnell: EVEN IF YOU DON'T
KNOW ITS NAME, IT'S LIKELY
YOU'VE HEARD AND PERHAPS EVEN
HUMMED ALONG TO "NESSUN DORMA."
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>> ( "NESSUN DORMA" CONTINUES )
>> Jonas Kaufmann: IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO DESCRIBE OR DEFINE
THE MAGIC OF THIS SONG.
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>> O'Donnell: IN THE FIRST YEAR
OF THE PANDEMIC, JONAS KAUFMANN
ENCHANTED AN AUDIENCE DESPERATE
FOR LIVE PERFORMANCES AT THE
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VIENNA PHILHARMONIC SUMMER NIGHT
CONCERT.
>> Kaufmann: IF YOU LOOK
CAREFULLY AT THIS SONG, IT IS
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VERY SIMPLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ( SINGS )
( SINGS )
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, LIKE, ALMOST
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LKE A CHILDREN'S MELODY.
IT'S NOT REALLY A COMPLICATED--
BUT THAT'S THE TRICK.
THE BEST HITS ARE THE LESS
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COMPLICATED.
IT DOES ITS MAGIC EACH AND EVERY
TIME.
ALSO FOR ME.
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I'VE B-- BEEN PERFORMING THIS--
THIS-- ARIA SO MANY TIMES, AND
THE CHILL IS STILL THERE.
>> ( "NESSUN DORMA" CONCLUDES )
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>> O'Donnell: THE CHILL IS STILL
THERE FOR HIS FANS, TOO.
IT'S NOT ONLY HIS GOOD LOOKS--
HE'S BEEN COMPARED TO GEORGE
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CLOONEY-- AND HIS BROAD VOCAL
RANGE; JONAS KAUFMANN HAS A GIFT
FOR ACTING A ROLE AND NOT JUST
SINGING IT.
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AUDIENCES LINE UP TO LISTEN TO
KAUFMANN PERFORM LESSER-KNOWN
WORKS, AS WELL.
LAST FALL, WE JOINED HIM ON HIS
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AMERICAN RECITAL TOUR.
>> ( KAUFMANN SINGING LIEDER )
>> O'Donnell: AT THE KENNEDY
CENTER IN WASHINGTON, HE OFFERED
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AN EVENING OF LIEDER, POETIC
GERMAN SONGS, ACCOMPANIED ONLY
BY A PIANO.
>> ( KAUFMANN SINGING LIEDER )
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>> O'Donnell: IT'S BEEN THREE
YEARS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN
PERFORMING IN AMERICA.
WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE BACK?
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>> Kaufmann: WELL, IT'S GREAT TO
BE BACK TO HAVE AT LEAST A PART
OF THAT SPIRIT THAT I USED TO
SEE HERE.
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YOU SEE AUDIENCES THAT ARE WAY
MORE CHEERFUL, THAT ARE VERY
EMOTIONAL, THAT START TO CRY.
>> O'Donnell: OPERA CAN ALWAYS
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BE EMOTIONAL, BUT EVEN NOW YOU
NOTICE THE AUDIENCE IS MORE SO.
>> Kaufmann: IT HAS AN A MORE
POWERFUL IMPACT AND EFFECT ON--
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ON PEOPLE NOW.
BUT I'M ACTUALLY SO SELFISH; I
DO THIS FOR MYSELF MOSTLY
BECAUSE IT IS A DREAM COME TRUE
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TO BE ABLE TO MAKE YOUR LIVING
ON SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS BEEN
YOUR DREAM.
SO, I THOUGHT, "YEAH, IT'S GREAT
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TO HAVE THE AUDIENCE AND
EVERYTHING, BUT IF-- IF IT WOULD
BE ONLY ME AND THEY WOULD STILL
PAY ME, I MEAN, THEY-- IT WOULD
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BE FINE TOO."
( LAUGHS )
IT'S SO WRONG-- SO, SO WRONG
BECAUSE NOW, HAVING DONE MANY OF
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THESE VIRTUAL CONCERTS, I HAD TO
LEARN THE HARD WAY HOW IMPORTANT
AN AUDIENCE IS.
>> O'Donnell: NOT ONLY DID THE
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AUDIENCE LOSE SOMETHING WITHOUT
LIVE OPERA, YOU LOST SOMETHING.
>> Kaufmann: IT'S NOT ONLY THE
APPLAUSE, IT'S THE ENERGY IN THE
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ROOM CHANGES IMMEDIATELY.
IF THERE IS A COUPLE OF THOUSAND
PEOPLE ATTENDING SOMETHING--
WATCHING, WITNESSING, HOLDING
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THEIR BREATH-- YOU FEEL THEIR
PRESENCE.
AND-- AND THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT-- THAT WE'VE BEEN MISSING
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ALL ENORMOUSLY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> O'Donnell: SO ENORMOUSLY, THE
KENNEDY CENTER AUDIENCE DEMANDED
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EIGHT ENCORES.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
KAUFMANN'S BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT
CAME WITH HIS METROPOLITAN OPERA
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DEBUT IN 2006.
ONE CRITIC NOTED HE DISPLAYED "A
BIG, SHINY VOICE."
ANOTHER SAID HE LOOKED LIKE A
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ROCK STAR.
WHEN WE SAW HIM BACKSTAGE AT THE
MET IN 2018...
>> Kaufmann: THIS IS THE SALOON.
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>> O'Donnell: ...KAUFMANN WAS
SWASHBUCKLING HIS WAY THROUGH
THE PART OF THE OUTLAW IN
PUCCINI'S "LA FANCIULLA DEL
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WEST."
>> (SINGING "LA FANCIULLA DEL
WEST" )
>> O'Donnell: WITH HIS
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REPERTOIRE OF MORE THAN 70 ROLES
IN GERMAN, FRENCH, ITALIAN, AND
ENGLISH-- ALL OF WHICH HE IS
FLUENT IN-- KAUFMANN IS
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STEREOTYPICALLY TEUTONIC IN HIS
METHODIC APPROACH TO HIS MUSIC.
( KAUFMANN WARMING UP )
>> O'Donnell: "OPERA IS A
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COMPETITIVE SPORT," HE LIKES TO
SAY, AND HE KEEPS HIS VOICE AS
PRECISELY TUNED AS A PORSCHE AT
LE MANS.
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AT THE BAVARIAN STATE OPERA, WE
WATCHED KAUFMANN IN HIS PRE-GAME
WARM-UP, PREPARING HIS EQUIPMENT
FOR A THREE-HOUR CONTEST WITH
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VERDI'S "AIDA."
WE SAW YOU WITH THE TOWEL IN THE
MOUTH.
( LAUGHS )
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WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
( LAUGHTER )
>> Kaufmann: YEAH, THIS IS
SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL.
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SOMETIMES THE VOICE IS THERE,
YES.
YOU WAKE UP, AND YOU THINK,
"AH."
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( SINGING )
IT'S ALL READY.
AND THEN COMES ANOTHER DAY, AND
IT JUST TAKES A WHILE FOR THE
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VOICE TO WAKE UP AND TO GET RID
OF ALL THE DUST.
SO, WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE WANT
TO WAKE UP OUR VOICE, WHEN WE
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START WARMING UP?
WE CHANGE THINGS TO MAKE IT
SOUND LIKE WE WANT IT.
AND THIS IS WRONG.
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WE DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE.
BUT IF WE HAVE THE TOWEL IN THE
MOUTH, YOU DON'T HEAR THAT.
YOU DON'T HEAR THE DIFFERENCE.
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YOU JUST LET THE VOICE DO ITS
THING.
AND ONCE IT'S READY, IT'S READY.
>> O'Donnell: KAUFMANN'S
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CONFIDENCE IN HIS VOICE ALLOWS
HIM TO CONCENTRATE ON INHABITING
THE CHARACTERS HE PLAYS.
HE IS RECOGNIZED AS A BETTER
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ACTOR THAN MOST OPERA STARS.
>> Kaufmann: I TRIED TO MASTER
MY-- MY VOCAL TECHNIQUE SO THAT
I COULD OPEN MY MOUTH AND SING
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AS IF I WOULD JUST SPEAK AND
CONCENTRATE ON THE EMOTION,
CONCENTRATE ON THE-- THE LAYERS
UNDERNEATH, ON THE SUBTEXT.
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AND, FOR ME, ACTING IS NOTHING
ARTIFICIAL.
>> ( KAUFMANN PERFORMING
"AIDA" )
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I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE
HUMAN BEING THAT STANDS BEHIND
THIS ARMOR AND MAYBE FEELS
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
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SO, THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED
IN.
( KAUFMANN PERFORMING "AIDA" )
>> O'Donnell: THE VOICE OF A
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TENOR, BY NATURE, DEMANDS
HEROICS AND NERVES OF STEEL,
SOMETHING IT TOOK HIM YEARS TO
DEVELOP.
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WHY DO YOU THINK TENORS CAPTURE
PEOPLE'S IMAGINATION?
>> Kaufmann: THE TENOR REGISTER
IS A VERY UNNATURAL REGISTER.
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IT'S VERY HIGH FOR-- FOR A MALE
VOICE.
YOU CAN'T JUST SWITCH INTO,
LET'S SAY, SOPRANO REGISTER AND-
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- AND-- AND SING THE HA-HA- HO-
H, WHATEVER.
THAT WOULD BE, LET'S SAY,
EASIER.
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BUT YOU-- YOU HAVE TO GO WITH
YOUR FULL-BODY VOICE.
THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT
HAVE TO FALL INTO PLACE IN ORDER
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TO-- TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, TO
SING, LET'S SAY, A FULL-BODY
HIGH C ON STAGE, THAT THERE'S
ALWAYS A LITTLE RISK IN IT.
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>> O'Donnell: YOU CAN'T FAKE IT.
>> Kaufmann: YOU CAN'T FAKE IT
BECAUSE YOU-- YOU FAIL.
EVERYBODY SEES IT, EVERYBODY
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HEARS IT.
>> O'Donnell: IN 2015, A FEW
YEARS AND A FEW GRAY HAIRS AGO,
WE TRAVELED TO KAUFMANN'S
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CHILDHOOD HOME IN MUNICH.
IT LOOKS THE SAME.
HAVE THEY CHANGED IT MUCH?
>> Kaufmann: NO.
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I MEAN, IT WAS ANOTHER YELLOW.
>> O'Donnell: IT WAS HERE,
SITTING UNDER THE PIANO WHILE
HIS GRANDFATHER PLAYED, THAT HIS
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LOVE FOR CLASSICAL MUSIC BEGAN.
KAUFMANN JOINED THE CHOIR EARLY
WHEN HIS HANDS WERE STILL TOO
SMALL FOR THE KEYBOARD.
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>> Kaufmann: I STILL REMEMBER
THAT FEELING WHEN I WAS-- WHEN I
WAS THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME,
HAVING THE IMPRESSION TO, LET'S
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SAY, TAKING A BATH IN THE SOUND.
>> O'Donnell: WHAT DO YOU MEAN,
"TAKING A BATH IN THE SOUND?"
>> Kaufmann: NO, YOU SEE, YOU'RE
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SURROUNDED BY-- BY THE SOUND.
BY THE HARMONIES.
BY THE VOICES.
IF YOU ARE SITTING AS A
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SPECTATOR, AS AN AUDIENCE, THE--
THE SOUND COMES FROM ONE
DIRECTION, BUT IT'S-- IT'S NOT
THE SAME AS IF YOU ARE JUST IN
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THE MIDDLE OF IT.
I GOT GOOSEBUMPS RIGHT AWAY
BECAUSE I-- I LOVED IT SO MUCH.
AND SO, I--
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>> O'Donnell: AND HOW OLD WERE
YOU?
>> Kaufmann: FIVE.
SO...
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>> O'Donnell: ( LAUGHS )
YOU'RE FIVE, AND YOU'RE GETTING
GOOSEBUMPS?
>> Kaufmann: YES.
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( LAUGHS )
I MEAN, I WAS-- I WAS SO
EXCITED.
>> O'Donnell: NOW 52, THE FATHER
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OF FOUR PERFORMS MOSTLY IN
EUROPE TO BE CLOSE TO HIS
FAMILY.
WHEN WE WERE WITH HIM IN MUNICH,
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HE WANTED US TO EXPERIENCE THE
CENTURIES-OLD TRADITION OF
OKTOBERFEST.
THIS TENOR MAY BE PROTECTIVE OF
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HIS VOICE, BUT HE STILL LIKES TO
HAVE A GOOD TIME.
BUT AS A TENOR, YOU CAN'T DRINK
THAT MUCH BEER, CAN YOU?
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>> Kaufmann: NO, NO.
I MEAN, AT LEAST NOT IF YOU HAVE
TO SING THE NEXT DAY.
BUT BEER IS SOMETHING THAT
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DOESN'T HARM YOUR VOICE, AS FAR
AS I KNOW, SO YOU CAN DRINK IT
IF YOU WANT TO.
>> O'Donnell: BEER DOESN'T HARM
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YOUR VOICE?
>> Kaufmann: NO, NOT AT ALL.
ON THE CONTRARY.
IT HELPS.
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>> O'Donnell: IT HASN'T BEEN ALL
WIENERSCHNITZEL AND ENCORES.
IN 1995, EARLY IN HIS CAREER,
AFTER REPEATEDLY FORCING HIS
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INSTRUMENT INTO PLACES IT DIDN'T
NATURALLY GO, THE TENOR LOST HIS
VOICE ON STAGE AND ALSO HIS
CONFIDENCE IN HIS CAREER.
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YOU WANTED TO QUIT?
>> Kaufmann: OF COURSE, I WANTED
TO QUIT.
IF YOU DO A JOB THAT IS SO
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HIGHLY RISKY THAT YOU NEVER KNOW
WHEN YOU WALK ON STAGE WHETHER
YOU'RE GOING TO FINISH THE
EVENING IN-- IN GLORY OR IN
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MISERY, WHY WOULD YOU DO IT?
>> O'Donnell: BUT YOU ENJOY IT.
>> Kaufmann: I ENJOY IT ONLY
WHEN I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING, AND
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I'M-- I'M, LET'S SAY-- I'M ON
TOP OF IT.
>> O'Donnell: JONAS KAUFMANN
NEEDED TO ABANDON ALL HIS FAULTY
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TECHNIQUES THAT NEARLY COST HIM
HIS VOICE AND BEGIN AGAIN FROM
SCRATCH.
HOW DID YOU REBUILD YOUR VOICE?
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>> Kaufmann: WELL, I-- I FOUND
ANOTHER TEACHER WHO TAUGHT ME A
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT APPROACH,
DIFFERENT TECHNIQUE, DIFFERENT
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BREATHING, DIFFERENT MOUTH
POSITION.
>> O'Donnell: AND HOW DID YOUR
VOICE CHANGE?
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>> Kaufmann: I ALWAYS SAY IF
YOU-- YOU COMPARE IT-- YOU'VE
BEEN DRIVING A MINI, AND THEN
YOU SUDDENLY GO TO-- TO A 40-TON
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TRUCK.
( LAUGHS )
AND-- AND YOU THINK YOU'VE NEVER
BEEN DRIVEN A CAR BEFORE BECAUSE
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IT IS JUST-- STEERING ALONE IS--
IS SO WEIRD.
>> O'Donnell: BUT IT'S MORE
POWERFUL?
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>> Kaufmann: IT IS VERY
POWERFUL.
THE VOICE BECAME BIGGER, DARKER,
ROUNDER, LARGER.
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( "PAGLIACCI" )
>> O'Donnell: ARMED WITH BOTH
THIS DARKER, LARGER VOICE AND A
HEIGHTENED SENSE OF CAUTION,
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JONAS KAUFMANN ROSE TO THE TOP
OF THE OPERA WORLD CAREFULLY
CHOOSING HIS JOBS, RESISTING
PRESSURE TO COMMIT TO ROLES
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UNTIL HIS VOICE WAS READY TO
MEET THE CHALLENGE.
JONAS KAUFMANN'S CAREER IS
MARKED NOT ONLY BY THE MOMENTS
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HE'S RISEN TO THE OCCASION, BUT
ALSO BY THE TIMES HE HASN'T
TAKEN THE STAGE.
IN HIS QUEST TO PROTECT HIS
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INSTRUMENT, HE HAS FREQUENTLY
CANCELLED BOOKINGS, LEAVING
OPERA HOUSES SCRAMBLING AND
TICKET HOLDERS DISAPPOINTED.
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DID YOU EVER WORRY ABOUT GAINING
THE REPUTATION OF SOMEONE WHO'S
A CANCELER.
>> Kaufmann: YES, OF COURSE.
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THAT IS THE RISK.
AND THERE WAS A TIME WHEN YOU
WOULD GOOGLE "JONAS KAUFMANN,"
THE NEXT WORD THAT CAME WAS
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"CANCEL."
( LAUGHS )
>> O'Donnell: YOU CAN LAUGH
ABOUT THAT?
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>> Kaufmann: I CAN LAUGH ABOUT
IT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T CHANGE A
HAIR.
YOU SEE, I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING
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DIFFERENT.
( KAUFMANN RECORDING "TOSCA" )
IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR-- TO
PROTECT MY INSTRUMENT.
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I LOVE THIS JOB SO MUCH THAT FOR
NO MONEY IN THE WORLD, I WANT TO
GIVE IT UP.
SO, I WANT TO SING FOR AS LONG
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AS POSSIBLE.
( KAUFMANN RECORDING "TOSCA" )
( TICKING )
>> Whitaker: I'M BILL WHITAKER.
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THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OUR 54th
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>> Whitaker: I'M BILL WHITAKER.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OUR 54th
SEASON.
WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK FOR A
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SUMMER OF CLASSIC AND UPDATED
STORIES WHILE WE BEGIN REPORTING
AND SHOOTING FOR THIS FALL, OUR
55th SEASON OF "60 MINUTES."
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