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>>> WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S
VERY SUSPECT.
ITS NAME IS DOMINION
>> HOW DID FALSE ALLEGATIONS

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ABOUT AN MINOR CAMERICAN COMPANE
MACHINES IN THE LAST
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAUSE SO
MUCH HAVOC?

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>> CAN YOU FLIP VOTES IN THE
COMPUTER SYSTEM?
CAN YOU ADD VOTES THAT DID NOT
EXIST?

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>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> TONIGHT THE CEO OF DOMINION
SHOWS "60 MINUTES" HOW HIS
VOTING MACHINES ACTUALLY WORK

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AND REVEALS THE THREAT HIS OWN
FAMILY AND EMPLOYEES LIVE UNDER
TO THIS DAY.
>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT INTO

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DANGER, ALL BECAUSE OF LIES.
>>> THROUGH A VAST STRETCH OF
OPEN AND FOR THE MOMENT EMPTY
GRASSLAND ALLISON FOX IS TAKING

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US UP A MUDDY TWO-TRACK PATH IN
SEARCH OF BUFFALO.
FOX IS THE CEO OF AMERICAN
PRAIRIE, WHICH HAS AS JUST ONE

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OF MANY AUDACIOUS GOALS THE
RESTORATION OF BISON TO A
LANDSCAPE THEY ONCE RULED.
>> THERE THEY ARE.

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>> OH, THERE.
>> LOOK AT THAT.
THERE THEY ARE.
>> OH, LOOK AT THE BABIES.

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>>> OVER THE YEARS I'VE KIND OF
PERFECTED IT, MADE IT EASIER TO
COOK.
>> INA GARTEN, ALSO KNOWN AS THE

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BAREFOOT CONTESSA, IS A
BEST-SELLING AUTHOR WITH
IMPRESSIVE CULINARY CHOPS.
SHE TOLD US SHE WANTS TO HELP

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PEOPLE RELAX IN THEIR KITCHENS
WHILE FOLLOWING HER RECIPE FOR A
GOOD LIFE.
>> JULIA SOLD FRENCH FOOD,

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RIGHT?
MARTHA SOLD PERFECTION.
YOU'RE SLINGING FUN.
>> WELL, I JUST THINK IF YOU'RE

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NOT HAVING FUN WHAT'S THE POINT?
REALLY.
>>> I'M LESLEY STAHL.
>> I'M BILL WHITAKER.

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>> I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
>> I'M SHARYN ALFONSI.
>> I'M JON WERTHEIM.
>> I'M SCOTT PELLEY.

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THOSE STORIES AND MORE TONIGHT
ON "60 MINUTES."

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>>> IT WAS JUST DAYS AFTER THE
2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THAT
LAWYERS SUPPORTING THEN
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BEGAN

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SPREADING UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS
THAT AN AMERICAN COMPANY,
DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS, HAD
RIGGED THE ELECTION.

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THEY SAID DOMINION WAS BACKED BY
VENEZUELA AND THAT ITS MACHINES
AND SOFTWARE SWITCHED MILLIONS
OF VOTES FROM DONALD TRUMP TO

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JOE BIDEN.
THEY NEVER SHOWED ANY EVIDENCE,
BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP PRO-TRUMP
ATTORNEYS FROM MAKING BASELESS

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CLAIMS OR CONSERVATIVE NEWS
NETWORKS FROM GIVING THEM PLENTY
OF AIR TIME.
DOMINION HAS FILED EIGHT

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LAWSUITS SEEKING MORE THAN $10
BILLION IN DAMAGES AGAINST FOX
NEWS AND OTHER NETWORKS,
CORPORATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS.

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BUT DOMINION'S CEO, JOHN POULOS,
HAS REMAINED LARGELY SILENT
UNTIL NOW.
HE WE SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT THE

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LAWSUITS, THE LIES, AND THE
IRREPARABLE DAMAGE HE SAYS
THEY'VE CAUSED TO HIS COMPANY
AND HIS EMPLOYEES.

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>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT INTO
DANGER.
THEIR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN PUT
INTO DANGER.

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THEIR LIVES HAVE BEEN UPENDED.
AND ALL BECAUSE OF LIES.
IT WAS A VERY CLEAR CALCULATION
THAT THEY KNEW THEY WERE LIES

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AND THEY WERE REPEATING THEM AND
ENDORSING THEM.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU PEOPLE
ADMIT WHAT THEY SAID WAS WRONG.

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>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL THE PEOPLE
WHOSE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN
IMPACTED BY THIS.

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ANDERSON, MY KIDS STILL ARE NOT
ALLOWED TO GETFULL ANY PACKAGE
THE FRONT DOOR UNTIL WE VERIFY
IT'S ACTUALLY FROM A TRUSTED

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SENDER.
>> YOU'RE THAT CONCERNED ABOUT
SOMEBODY SENDING SOMETHING TO
YOUR HOUSE?

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>> IT'S NOT UNFOUNDED CONCERN.
>> PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT?
>> PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS.
PEOPLE ARE WARNING THAT THEY

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WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
>> Reporter: FOR JOHN POULOS AND
HIS COMPANY THE TROUBLE BEGAN
FIVE DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION

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WHEN FOX BUSINESS HOST MARIA
BARTIROMO BROUGHT UP DOMINION
WITH ATTORNEY SIDNEY POWELL.
?

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SIDNEY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE
DOMINION SOFTWARE.
I KNOW THERE WERE VOTING
IRREGULARITIES.

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TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
>> THAT'S TO PUT IT MILDLY.
THE COMPUTER GLITCHES COULD NOT
AND SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AT

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ALL.
THAT IS WHERE THE FRAUD TOOK
PLACE, WHERE THEY WERE FLIPPING
VOTES IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM OR

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ADDING VOTES THAT DID NOT EXIST.
>> Reporter: SIDNEY POWELL WAS
NEVER ABLE TO SHOW FRAUD, BUT
SHE WAS REPEATEDLY INVITED BACK

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ON FOX NETWORKS, AS WAS THE
PRESIDENT'S PERSONAL ATTORNEY,
RUDY GIULIANI.
WHO ALSO WOVE A FALSE NARRATIVE

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ABOUT SMARTMATIC, AN ELECTION
TECHNOLOGY COMPANY WHICH IS NOW
SUING GIULIANI, FOX NEWS AND
OTHERS.

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>> SMARTMATIC IS A COMPANY THAT
WAS FORMED BY THREE VENEZUELANS
WHO WERE VERY CLOSE TO -- VERY
CLOSE TO THE DICTATOR CHAVEZ OF

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VENEZUELA.
AND IT WAS FORMED IN ORDER TO
FIX ELECTIONS.
THAT'S THE COMPANY THAT OWNS

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DOMINION.
>> DOES SMARTMATIC OWN DOMINION?
>> NO.
WE ARE -- WE DO HAVE A

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RELATIONSHIP.
WE ARE COMPETITORS.
>> WERE YOU ASSOCIATED WITH THE
LATE HUGO CHAVEZ?

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>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> DO YOU USE A VENEZUELAN
COMPANY'S SOFTWARE THAT'S BEEN
USED TO STEAL ELECTIONS IN OTHER

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COUNTRIES?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
ANDERSON, I CAN CUT ALL OF THIS
SHORT.

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WE WERE FOUNDED IN TORONTO,
WHICH IS WHERE MY FAMILY WAS
FROM, AND THERE IS NOTHING TO DO
WITH VENEZUELA.

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>> CAN YOU FLIP VOTES IN THE
COMPUTER SYSTEM?
CAN YOU ADD VOTES THAT DID NOT
EXIST?

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>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP
FIRST MENTIONED DOMINION IN A
TWEET NOVEMBER 12th AND RECORDED

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THIS VIDEO A FEW WEEKS LATER,
WHICH WAS POSTED ON FACEBOOK.
>> WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S VERY
SUSPECT.

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ITS NAME IS DOMINION.
WITH THE TURN OF A DIAL OR THE
CHANGE OF A CHIP YOU CAN PRESS A
BUTTON FOR TRUMP AND THE VOTE

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GOES TO BIDEN.
WHAT KIND OF A SYSTEM IS THIS?
WE HAVE TO GO TO PAPER.
MAYBE IT TAKES LONGER.

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BUT THE ONLY SECURE SYSTEM IS
PAPER.
>> WHY NOT JUST HAVE PAPER
BALLOTS?

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>> WE DO HAVE PAPER BALLOTS.
WHAT THE MACHINES DO IS THEY
COUNT THOSE PAPER BALLOTS IN A
WAY THAT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR

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PEOPLE TO VERIFY AFTER THE FACT
THROUGH THE MEANS OF AUDITS AND
RECOUNTS.
>> Reporter: DOMINION MAKES TWO

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TYPES OF MACHINES.
ONE IS CALLED A BALLOT MARKER.
IT'S A TOUCHSCREEN DEVICE THAT A
VOTER CAN USE TO MARK THEIR

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CHOICES AND THEN PRINT THE
BALLOT.
THE SECOND MACHINE IS A SCANNER
THAT READS THAT PAPER BALLOT,

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COUNTS THE VOTE, AND IMMEDIATELY
STORES THE BALLOT SECURELY.
>> A VOTER TAKES A PAPER BALLOT.
THEY'VE MADE THEIR MARKS HOWEVER

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THEY MAKE THEIR MARKS, DEPENDING
ON THE JURISDICTION.
AS THEY DEPOSIT IT INTO THE THE
BALLOT BOX IS GOES INTO A

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DIGITAL SCANNER AND THEN DROPS
INTO THE BALLOT BOX.
SO HOW DO YOU HACK A PAPER
BALLOT?

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>> Reporter: HE SHOWED US HOW IT
WORKS.
>> THIS IS THE SCANNER THAT SITS
ATOP A LOCKED AND SEALED BALLOT

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BOX.
THIS IS HOW THEY CAST THEIR
BALLOT.
IT GOES THROUGH A SCANNER.

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AND NOW WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE
BALLOT THAT WE JUST CAST AND WE
HAVE THE PAPER BALLOT THAT IS
USED FOR RECOUNTS.

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>> Reporter: JOHN POULOS SAYS IT
WAS WATCHING THE PRESIDENTIAL
RECOUNTS IN FLORIDA IN 2000 WITH
THOSE ARGUMENTS OVER HANGING

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CHADS THAT GOT HIM INTERESTED IN
IMPROVING HOW PAPER BALLOTS WERE
MARKED AND COUNTED.
HE WAS AN ENGINEER WORKING AT A

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STARTUP IN SILICON VALLEY AND
BEGAN LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAKE IT
EASIER TO RECOUNT PAPER BALLOTS
AND TO HELP PEOPLE WITH

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DISABILITIES VOTE WITHOUT
ASSISTANCE.
>> OUR GOAL WAS TO ALLOW ANY
VOTER TO MAKE THEIR MARKS ON A

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PAPER BALLOT IN A VERY CLEAR,
UNAMBIGUOUS WAY REGARDLESS OF
PHYSICAL ABILITY.
>> Reporter: JOHN POULOS IS

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CANADIAN AND FOUNDED DOMINION IN
2002.
HE REMAINS ITS CHIEF EXECUTIVE,
THOUGH IT WAS ACQUIRED BY AN

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AMERICAN INVESTMENT GROUP IN
2018.
DOM INION IS BASED IN DENVER.
DO YOU EVER THINK TO YOURSELF I

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GOT INTO THIS TO HELP
PARAPLEGICS AND BLIND PEOPLE
VOTE MORE EASILY AND LOOK WHAT'S
HAPPENED?

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>> I THINK ABOUT IT ALL THE
TIME.
>> Reporter: DOMINION IS ONE OF
THREE COMPANIES THAT MAKE MOST

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OF THE VOTING SYSTEMS IN
AMERICA.
IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION THEIR MACHINES WERE IN

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28 STATES.
RED STATES AND BLUE.
ON ELECTION DAY IN A PRECINCT
ARE YOUR MACHINES HOOKED UP TO

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THE INTERNET?
>> NO.
NOT BY -- NOT BY ANY STRETCH.
WE GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF

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CERTIFICATIONS, GOVERNMENT
CERTIFICATIONS.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS AT A
FEDERAL LEVEL.

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SO THOSE STANDARDS MANDATE THAT
ELECTION SYSTEMS SUCH AS OURS
ARE DESIGNED TO WORK IN A CLOSED
SYSTEM, AIR GAPPED, NO INTERNET.

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>> IN ALL THE MAJOR SWING STATES
OF 2020 THERE ARE PAPER BALLOTS
BACKING UP --
>> NOT ONLY ARE THERE PAPER

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BALLOTS THAT MAKE UP THE
OFFICIAL RECORD, THOSE PAPER
BALLOTS HAVE BEEN HAND-COUNTED
AND AUDITED OVER 1,000 TIMES.

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ON JUST THE 2020 ELECTION.
>> Reporter: RECOUNTS AND AUDITS
IN THE SWING STATES OF GEORGIA,
ARIZONA, MICHIGAN, PENNSYLVANIA

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AND NEVADA ALL CONFIRMED
DOMINION'S RESULTS
MORE THAN 60 LAWSUITS AROUND THE
COUNTRY CHALLENGING THE ELECTION

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BY TRUMP OR HIS SUPPORTERS WERE
ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN OR FAILED.
IN GEORGIA THERE HAVE BEEN THREE
RECOUNTS.

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TWO ELECTRONIC ONES AND ONE HAND
RECOUNT.
>> IN FRONT OF CAMERAS,
BIPARTISAN POLL WATCHERS AND

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THOUSANDS OF LOCAL RESIDENTS
ACROSS THE STATE OF GEORGIA, AND
IT ONCE AGAIN REAFFIRMED THE
RESULTS.

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THAT SHOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO
ALL OF IT.
BUT THE LIES PERSISTED.
>> Reporter: AND SO HAVE

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INCIDENTS OF HARASSMENT AND
THREATS AGAINST JOHN POULOS AND
HIS EMPLOYEES.
>> EVERY SINGLE PERSON AT

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DOMINION'S GOING TO END UP IN AN
ORANGE JUMPSUIT IN HANDCUFFS,
YOU [ BLEEP ] WHORES!
YOU CHEATING [ BLEEP ] PIGS!

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, SCUM-BAGS.
WE'RE GOING TO BLOW YOUR
[ BLEEP ] BUILDING UP.
PIECE OF [ BLEEP ] [ BLEEP ].

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>> I DON'T WISH TO SIT HERE AND
SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED 18 MONTHS AGO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES

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TO HAPPEN EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR
US.
LAST FRIDAY WE HAD AN OFFICE ON
LOCKDOWN.

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TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THAT I WAS ON
A PHONE CALL WITH ONE OF OUR
EMPLOYEES WHO'S A MOTHER OF TWO,
VERY UPSET AND CRYING.

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IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT.
>> HAD SOMETHING BEEN SAID TO
HER PERSONALLY?
>> A VERY DISGUSTING DEATH

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THREAT IN DETAIL.
>> RECEIVED --
>> ON HER PERSONAL CELL PHONE.
>> IT'S COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY

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SURREAL.
NONE OF THESE LIES HAVE BEEN
SUBSTANTIATED.
TO ANY EXTENT.

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EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS
BEEN DEBUNKED.
>> Reporter: CHRIS KREBS WAS
DIRECTOR OF THE CYBERSECURITY

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AND INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY
AGENCY, CHARGED WITH PROTECTING
THE 2020 ELECTION.
HE CALLED IT THE MOST SECURE

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ELECTION IN AMERICAN HISTORY,
AND DAYS LATER WAS FIRED BY
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE NOW HAS A CYBER CONSULTING

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FIRM AND IS A CONTRIBUTOR FOR
CBS NEWS.
WE SHOWED HIM A PRESS CONFERENCE
HELD TWO DAYS AFTER HIS FIRING

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AT THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE
WHEN RUDY GIULIANI, SIDNEY
POWELL AND OTHERS CONTINUED

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THEIR ATTACKS ON DOMINION
MACHINES AND SOFTWARE.
>> IT CAN SET AND RUN AN
ALGORITHM THAT PROBABLY RAN ALL

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OVER THE COUNTRY TO TAKE A
CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF VOTES FROM
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FLIP THEM TO
PRESIDENT BIDEN.

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>> DO YOU REMEMBER WATCHING
THAT?
>> YEAH.
I TWEETED ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY

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AFTERWARDS.
I THINK I SAID SOMETHING ALONG
THE LINES OF THAT WAS THE MOST
INSANE AND DANGEROUS 45 MINUTES

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OF TV IN, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN
HISTORY EFFECTIVELY.
>> HOW SECURE WAS THE 2020
ELECTION?

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>> LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
IT WAS THE MOST LITIGATED.
IT WAS THE MOST SCRUTINIZED.
IT WAS THE MOST AUDITED.

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THIS ELECTION WAS PUT THROUGH
THE WRINGER FROM SO MANY
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
AND WHAT I TEND TO LIKE TO SAY

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IS DON'T LISTEN TO ME.
LISTEN TO BILL BARR.
BILL BARR SAID IT.
HE WAS THEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

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OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> Reporter: THIS IS WHAT BILL
BARR LATER SAID TO THE JANUARY
6th COMMITTEE.

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>> THESE CLAIMS ON THE DOMINION
VOTING MACHINES, AND THEY WERE
IDIOTIC CLAIMS, I SAW ABSOLUTELY
ZERO BASIS FOR THE ALLEGATIONS.

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BUT THEY WERE MADE IN SUCH A
SENSATIONAL WAY THAT THEY
OBVIOUSLY WERE INFLUENCING A LOT
OF PEOPLE.

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>> Reporter: DOMINION BEGAN
ALERTING FOX NEWS AND OTHER
NETWORKS OF THE FALSE
ALLEGATIONS THEY WERE

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BROADCASTING NOVEMBER 12th.
FOUR DAYS AFTER SIDNEY POWELL
FIRST DISCUSSED DOMINION WITH
MARIA BARTIROMO.

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BUT DOMINION SAYS FOX NEWS NEVER
RETRACTED THEIR REPORTING.
>> YOU GAVE THEM A LOT OF
CHANCES TO CORRECT THEIR

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STATEMENTS.
>> THEY STILL HAVEN'T CORRECTED
THEM.
TO ME THAT'S THE MOST POWERFUL

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PART OF THE COMPLAINT.
>> Reporter: LEE LEVINE IS A
FIRST AMENDMENT ATTORNEY WHO'S
LITIGATED CASES FOR 40 YEARS ON

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BEHALF OF MOST MEDIA COMPANIES
INCLUDING CBS AND FOX.
HE'S RETIRED NOW, BUT HIS OLD
FIRM IS CURRENTLY REPRESENTING

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CNN AND ME IN A SEPARATE MATTER,
FILED BY ATTORNEYS WHO ALSO
REPRESENT DOMINION IN ITS CASES
AGAINST FOX NEWS AND OTHERS.

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>> TAKE THE FOX CASE, FOR
EXAMPLE.
NOVEMBER 12th SEEMS TO ME TO BE
THE KEY DATE IN THAT CASE

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BECAUSE THAT'S THE DAY THAT
DOMINION STARTED ON A REGULAR
BASIS SENDING INFORMATION SHEETS
TO EVERY PRODUCER ON EVERY SHOW

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AT FOX THAT WAS HAVING SIDNEY
POWELL AND RUDY GIULIANI ON
SAYING HERE ARE THE TRUE FACTS,
HE HERE ARE LINKS SUPPORTING OUR

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ASSERTIONS THAT THESE ARE THE
TRUE FACTS.
AND THEN THESE PEOPLE CONTINUED
TO INVITE GIULIANI AND POWELL ON

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THEIR SHOWS.
>> DEFAMATION CASES ARE HARD TO
PROVE, AREN'T THEY?
>> YES, THEY ARE.

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THE PLAINTIFF HAS TO PROVE WHAT
THE LAW CALLS ACTUAL MALICE.
YOU NEED TO SHOW BASICALLY THAT
THE DEFENDANT PUBLISHED OR

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BROADCAST A DELIBERATE LIE, A
CALCULATED FALSEHOOD.
>> THEY KNEW IT WAS A LIE WHEN
THEY BROADCAST IT.

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>> THEY KNEW IT WAS A LIE OR
THEY KNEW IT WAS PROBABLY A LIE.
>> HOW STRONG IS DOMINION'S CASE
AGAINST FOX AND THE OTHERS?

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>> I THINK IT IS MUCH STRONGER
THAN MOST DEFAMATION CASES THAT
I HAVE SEEN.
I MIGHT SAY IT IS THE STRONGEST.

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>> HOW MANY DEFAMATION CASES
HAVE YOU SEEN?
>> I HAVE LITIGATED MYSELF
HUNDREDS, AND I'M CERTAINLY

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AWARE OF EVERY SIGNIFICANT
DEFAMATION CASE IN THE LAST 40
YEARS.
>> AND THIS IS THE STRONGEST

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ONE?
>> IN MY JUDGMENT.
>> Reporter: IN A STATEMENT TO
"60 MINUTES" FOX SAID IT'S

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CONFIDENT IT WILL PREVAIL,
CITING FREEDOM OF THE PRESS
PROTECTIONS, AND STATING IT WAS
REPORTING ON A NEWSWORTHY

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ALLEGATION MADE BY THE THEN
PRESIDENT AND AIRED SEGMENTS
FACT-CHECKING THE ALLEGATIONS
AGAINST DOMINION.

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DOMINION IS SUING FOX NEWS AND
ITS PARENT CORPORATION FOR $1.6
BILLION EACH, AND IN ITS
STATEMENT FOX SAID THAT

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DOMINION'S FINANCIAL DEMAND IS
UNSUPPORTED.
EFFORTS BY FOX NEWS AND OTHER
DEFENDANTS TO HAVE THE LAWSUITS

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DISMISSED HAVE BEEN REJECTED BY
THE COURTS.
DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN SHOW
NOT ONLY THAT THEY LIED BUT THEY

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KNEW THAT THEY WERE LYING?
>> I DON'T EVEN THINK -- I THINK
THAT'S THE EASIEST PART.
>> YOU AS A COMPANY TOLD THEM

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SPECIFICALLY REPEATEDLY.
>> WE TOLD THEM.
WE TOLD THEM IN REAL TIME.
OTHERS TOLD THEM.

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GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TOLD THEM.
PARTISAN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
TOLD THEM.
PEOPLE INSIDE THE TRUMP

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ADMINISTRATION TOLD THEM.
LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE AISLE TOLD THEM.
THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF NOT

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KNOWING THE TRUTH.
THEY KNEW THE TRUTH.

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>>> SAFEGUARDING VOTE BY MAIL.
>> IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO NOW THINK
THAT THERE'S WIDESPREAD FRAUD IN
IT.

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>> AT
>>> THE UNITED STATES HAS
NATIONAL PARKS DEVOTED TO
CANYONS AND DESERTS, GLACIERS

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AND GEYSERS, EVEN UNDERWATER
CORAL REEFS.
63 NATIONAL PARKS IN ALL.
BUT SOMEHOW WE SKIPPED THE

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AMERICAN PRAIRIE.
THE GRASSLANDS THAT ONCE
STRETCHED FROM THE MISSISSIPPI
RIVER TO THE ROCKIES PLAYED A

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VITAL ROLE IN THE LIVES OF
NATIVE AMERICANS, WHITE
SETTLERS, AND AN ENDLESS VARIETY
OF WILDLIFE.

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THEY INSPIRED EXPLORERS AND
ARTISTS.
BUT APPARENTLY NOT PARK
PLANNERS.

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NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO A NON-PROFIT
ORGANIZATION BEGAN TRYING TO FIX
THAT.
NOT WITH A NEW NATIONAL PARK BUT

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RATHER A HUGE PRIVATELY OPERATED
NATURE RESERVE ON THE GREAT
PLAINS.
ONE THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE

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PUBLIC BUT ALSO A PLACE WHERE
BUFFALO CAN ROAM ONCE AGAIN.
THROUGH A VAST STRETCH OF OPEN
AND FOR THE MOMENT EMPTY

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GRASSLAND ALLISON FOX IS TAKING
US UP A MUDDY TWO-TRACK PATH IN
SEARCH OF BUFFALO.
>> THIS ROAD IS INCREDIBLE.

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>> Reporter: FOX IS THE CEO OF
AMERICAN PRAIRIE, WHICH HAS AS
JUST ONE OF MANY AUDACIOUS GOALS
THE RESTORATION OF BISON TO A

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LANDSCAPE THEY ONCE RULED.
>> OH, THERE.
THERE.
>> THERE THEY ARE.

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>> LOOK AT THAT.
WOW.
THERE THEY ARE.
>> LOOK AT THE BABIES.

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>> LOOK AT THAT.
>> OH.
>> Reporter: WE FOUND PART OF
WHAT AMERICAN PRAIRIE CALLS ITS

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CONSERVATION HERD, OF ABOUT 800
BUFFALO.
THIS GROUP IS MAINLY MOTHERS
WITH NEW CALVES, WHICH ARE A

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DISTINCTIVE SHADE OF RED.
>> TRYING TO DO A COUNT OF THE
BABIES BUT NOW THEY'VE KIND OF
MOVED THE BABIES INTO THE MIDDLE

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OF THE GROUP.
>> THIS LAND IS LIKE THIS AS FAR
AS THE EYE CAN SEE?
>> AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE.

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>> Reporter: THAT'S NOT A BAD
DESCRIPTION OF THE SCALE OF
AMERICAN PRAIRIE'S AMBITION.
TO CREATE THE LARGEST NATURE

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RESERVE IN THE CONTIGUOUS UNITED
STATES.
THE NON-PROFIT HAS MORE THAN 50
EMPLOYEES, FROM FUND-RAISERS TO

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BUFFALO WRANGLERS.
ALLISON FOX HAS WORKED THERE FOR
15 YEARS AND HAS BEEN IN CHARGE
FOR THE LAST FOUR.

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OVERALL THE GOAL IS TO HAVE HOW
MANY ACRES IN THIS RESERVE?
>> YEAH, THE OVERALL GOAL IS
ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE MILES.

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3.2 MILLION ACRES OF INTACT
GRASSLANDS.
COMPARABLE TO THE SIZE OF THE
STATE OF CONNECTICUT.

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AND ALSO COMPARABLE TO GLACIER
AND YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARKS
COMBINED.
>> THAT'S BIG.

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>> IT IS BIG.
>> Reporter: THE BIG CHUNK OF
LAND IS MOSTLY NORTH OF THE
MISSOURI RIVER.

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IN NORTH CENTRAL MONTANA.
ONE OF THE MOST REMOTE PARTS OF
THE COUNTRY.
IT'S A PATCHWORK OF PRIVATELY

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OWNED CATTLE RANCHES AND LAND
OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
INCLUDING A HUGE EXISTING
NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE NAMED

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AFTER THE FAMOUS COWBOY PAINTER
CHARLES M. RUSSELL.
>> AND THAT 1.1 MILLION ACRES
SERVES AS THE ANCHOR OF AMERICAN

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PRAIRIE'S 3.2 MILLION-ACRE
VISION.
>> SO YOU'VE GOT THESE BIG
CHUNKS OF FEDERAL LAND AND

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YOU'RE BUYING LAND IN BETWEEN TO
TRY TO PIECE IT ALL TOGETHER.
>> EXACTLY.
>> Reporter: SO JUST ABOUT EVERY

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TIME A PRIVATE RANCH COMES UP
FOR SALE INSIDE ITS DESIRED
FOOTPRINT AMERICAN PRAIRIE TRIES
TO BUY IT TO ADD ANOTHER PIECE

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TO ITS PUZZLE AND PRESERVE MORE
GRASSLAND.
HOW MANY RANCHES HAVE YOU
PURCHASED?

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>> WE HAVE PURCHASED 34 RANCHES.
>> Reporter: TO BUY ALL THOSE
RANCHES AMERICAN PRAIRIE HAS
RAISED NEARLY $200 MILLION FROM

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MORE THAN 4,000 DONORS,
INCLUDING WALL STREET FINANCIERS
AND TECHNOLOGY MOGULS.
IT SAYS IT WILL TAKE HUNDREDS OF

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MILLIONS MORE AND DECADES MORE
TO COMPLETE THE PATCHWORK.
>> SO THIS IS A LONG GAME.
>> THIS IS A LONG GAME.

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AND IT'S A LONG GAME FOR LAND
ACQUISITION.
IT'S A PROBABLY EVEN LONGER GAME
FOR THE RESTORATION OF HABITATS

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AND SPECIES.
THIS AREA WAS AMERICA'S
SERENGETI, TRULY AMERICA'S
SERENGETI, WITH TENS OF

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THOUSANDS OF BISON, PRONGHORN,
ELK, DEER, GRIZZLY BEARS,
WOLVES.
>> IS THAT THE GOAL?

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OR IS THAT A GOAL, TO RESTORE
THAT?
>> YES.
TO HAVE THE ECOSYSTEM FUNCTION

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FULLY AS IT ONCE DID.
>> Reporter: CHARLES RUSSELL'S
PAINTINGS PORTRAY A ROMANTICIZED
VERSION OF WHAT THE PRAIRIE

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ECOSYSTEM USED TO LOOK LIKE.
TEEMING HERDS OF BUFFALO.
NATIVE AMERICANS HUNTING AND
LIVING ALONGSIDE THE BUFFALO.

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AT LEAST UNTIL THEY BOTH WERE
DISPLACED BY WHITE SETTLERS AND
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CATTLE.
>> IT'S AMAZING TO THINK OF THE

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PEOPLE THAT LIVED HERE BEFORE
US.
PEOPLE AND OTHER THINGS.
SO OVER THIS DIRECTION THERE'S

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QUITE A CLUSTER OF TEPEE RINGS.
THE NATIVE AMERICANS USED TO USE
THIS.
>> COME ON, RUSS.

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>> Reporter: CONNIE FRENCH
OPERATES THIS CATTLE RANCH WITH
HER HUSBAND CRAIG.
AND THEY ARE PROUD OF THEIR

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COLLABORATION WITH CONSERVATION
GROUPS.
IN FACT, THEY GRAZE SOME OF
THEIR CATTLE ON A RANCH THAT'S

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BEEN OWNED BY THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY FOR MORE THAN 20
YEARS.
>> OKAY, GIRL.

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>> Reporter: BUT WHEN AMERICAN
PRAIRIE'S EARLY LEADERS CAME IN
TALKING ABOUT SAVING THE LAND,
IT REALLY RUBBED HER WRONG.

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>> SO SAVING IT, YES.
BUT NOT JUST TROMPING OVER
PEOPLE.
>> IS THAT WHAT IF IT FEELS

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LIKE?
>> IT DOES FEEL LIKE THAT
SOMETIMES.
>> THEY CAME IN LIKE WE KNOW

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BETTER.
>> MM-HMM.
MM-HMM.
>> YOU HAVE SAID THAT FOR THEIR

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VISION TO BECOME A REALITY YOU
AND WHAT YOU DO, THAT YOU'RE
GONE.
>> MM-HMM.

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I GUESS I CAN SAY YES, THAT'S
HOW IT FEELS TO US.
TO ME.
>> Reporter: ALONG THE FEW ROADS

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SLICING THROUGH THE GRASSLANDS
HERE THE SIGNS ARE EVERYWHERE.
SAVE THE COWBOY.
STOP AMERICAN PRAIRIE RESERVE.

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THEY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT A LOT OF
CONNIE FRENCH'S RANCHING
NEIGHBORS SHARE HER CONCERN.
>> WHAT SOME RANCHERS HAVE TOLD

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US IS THAT WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT
TO SAVE THE LAND WHAT THEY HEAR
IS THAT YOU WANT TO SAVE THE
LAND FROM THEM.

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>> YEAH, NO, WE ARE WELL AWARE
THAT THAT WORD "SAVE" HIT A
NERVE.
AND THAT WAS NOT AT ALL OUR

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INTENTION.
MANY OF OUR RANCHING NEIGHBORS
ARE COMMITTED TO CONSERVATION.
SO IF I COULD PULL BACK THAT

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WORD "SAVE" I ABSOLUTELY WOULD.
>> Reporter: AMERICAN PRAIRIE IS
NOW WORKING HARD TO MEND FENCES
WITH SKEPTICAL NEIGHBORS.

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IT HAS A PROGRAM CALLED WILD
SKY, RUN BY A WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST
ON ITS STAFF, DANIEL KINGKA.
>> WILD SKY RANCHERS ARE THE

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BEST AT WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF
SUSTAINABLE RANCHING.
>> Reporter: WILD SKY WILL PAY A
RANCHER UP TO $15,000 A YEAR FOR

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THINGS LIKE MODIFYING FENCES TO
MAKE THEM EASIER FOR WILDLIFE TO
GET OVER OR THROUGH WHILE STILL
KEEPING CATTLE CONTAINED.

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IT ALSO PAYS RANCHERS TO ENSTALL
CAMERAS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
>> THE RANCHER GETS PAID FOR
EVERY ANIMAL THAT CROSSES THE

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PATH OF THIS CAMERA?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU GET A COYOTE, THAT'S 25
BUCKS.

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A BLACK BEAR COMES BEHIND IT,
THAT'S 300 BUCKS.
FOUR OR FIVE ELKS COME BEHIND
IT, THAT'S 50 BUCKS.

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THE BIGGEST PAYOUTS ARE NOR
WOLVES AND GROIZLY BEARS.
$500 PER PICTURE PER CAMERA PER
DAY.

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>> Reporter: WOLVES AND GRIZZLY
BEARS AREN'T ON THIS PART OF THE
PRAIRIE AT THE MOMENT.
THE IDEAL IDEA OF WILD SKY IS AS

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THEY AND OTHER WILDLIFE DO
RETURN PAYMENTS WILL HELP CATTLE
RANCHERS TOLERATE THEM.
>> MAKE SURE YOU FOLLOW WITH THE

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CALVES.
>> Reporter: LANCE JOHNSON, A
FOURTH GENERATION MONTANAN WHO
RUNS A CATTLE RANCH WITH HIS

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WIFE AND TWO DAUGHTERS, IS ONE
OF 15 WILD SKY RANCHERS.
THE CAMERAS ON HIS PROPERTY HAVE
CAPTURED ENOUGH PICTURES THIS

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YEAR TO EARN HIM $6,000.
THE ANNUAL MAXIMUM AMERICAN
PRAIRIE WILL PAY FOR PHOTOS OF
WILDLIFE.

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>> THESE RANCHES ARE SO HARD TO
MAKE PROFITABLE THAT IF YOU CAN
FIGURE OUT ANY WAY TO SUPPLEMENT
YOUR INCOME THEN THAT'S PROBABLY

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NECESSARY RIGHT NOW.
>> Reporter: JOHNSON ALSO LEASES
GRASS AND GRAZES CATTLE ON A
RANCH OWNED BY AMERICAN PRAIRIE.

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SO WHILE SOME OF HIS NEIGHBORS
SEE IT AS A THREAT HE SAYS THAT
WORKING WITH IT HELPS ENSURE HIS
FAMILY'S FUTURE.

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>> YOU SEE A PLACE FOR YOU AND
YOUR DAUGHTERS AND YOUR CATTLE
ON THIS LAND FOR THE FORESEEABLE
FUTURE.

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>> WE HOPE SO.
WE HOPE FOR THE REST OF OUR
LIVES THAT WE'RE THERE.
I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO

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GIVE OUR GIRLS THAT OPPORTUNITY
TO HAVE RANCHING IN THEIR
FUTURE.
>> Reporter: AMERICAN PRAIRIE

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SAYS IT INTENDS TO WORK
ALONGSIDE CATTLE RANCHERS FOR
DECADES TO COME, AND IT DOES
HAVE SOME NATURAL ALLIES IN THE

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NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> THE RANCHER AND THE WILD
SPACE, CAN THOSE TWO CO-EXIST?
>> YEAH.

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THEY CAN AND THEY ARE.
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
>> Reporter: MARK AZURE WAS BORN
AND RAISED ON THE FORT BELKNAP

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RESERVATION, WHICH IS ADJACENT
TO WHERE AMERICAN PRAIRIE IS
ASSEMBLING ITS RESERVE.
HE'S A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE

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RESERVATION'S TRIBAL COUNCIL,
MADE UP OF MEMBERS OF TWO TRIED,
THE NAKOTA AND THE ANIHI.
>> IS THERE ANY RECOLLECTION OF

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WHAT THIS LAND WAS LIKE BEFORE
THE WHITE SETTLERS CAME?
LIKE THE WILDLIFE.
>> YES.

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IT WAS PLENTIFUL.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF BUFFALO
AND ANTELOPE.
AND DEER AND PRAIRIE DOGS.

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BLACK-FOOTED FERRETS.
ELK.
>> Reporter: THE TRIBES AT FORT
BELKNAP BEGAN BUILDING THEIR

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BISON HEARD NEARLY A HALF
CENTURY AGO, AND IT'S NOW MORE
THAN 1,000 ANIMALS.
MARK AZURE TOOK US OUT TO SEE

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PART OF THE HERD, WHICH ROAMS
ACROSS A HUGE PASTURE ON THE
RESERVATION.
>> SO THEY'RE JUST SCATTERED OUT

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DOING WHAT BUFFALO DO, AND
THAT'S EAT THE GRASS AND RIGHT
NOW ENJOY THE WEATHER.
>> Reporter: THE TRIBES BENEFIT

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ECONOMICALLY FROM SELLING SOME
BUFFALO MEAT.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THE SYMBOLS
USED DURING NATIVE CEREMONIES

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THAT THEIR VALUE IS MUCH GREATER
THAN MONEY.
>> WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE
TRIBES AND THE BUFFALO, AND THEY

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WERE ONE AND THE SAME, TO COME
OUT HERE AND GET ON THE PRAIRIE
AND SEE A HERD OF BUFFALO.
YOU CAN KIND OF LEAVE THAT WORLD

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FOR A LITTLE BIT AND RECONNECT
WITH THAT LIFESTYLE THAT MY
ANCESTORS LIVED YEARS AGO.
MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE BIT.

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BUT IT'S THERE.
>> Reporter: SOME RANCHERS FEAR
THAT THE TRIBES AND AMERICAN
PRAIRIE WILL LET THEIR BUFFALO

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ROAM FREE AS THEY ONCE DID.
>> YOU USE THE TERM APPRECIATION
AND I ALWAYS ARGUE THAT POINT.
BECAUSE THERE'S A FENCE

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SOMEWHERE.
THERE HAS TO BE A FENCE
SOMEWHERE.
BUT AS MUCH ROOM AS WE CAN GIVE

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THEM TO ROAM, THEN WITHIN THAT
CONTEXT THEY'LL BE FREE.
BUT NOT LIKE IT WAS 200 YEARS
AGO.

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AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> STILL, IT WOULD BE A PLACE
WHERE YOU CAN COME SEE THE
BUFFALO ROAM.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Reporter: AMERICAN PRAIRIE
ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO VISIT THE
LAND IT OWNS.

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IT OPERATES CAMPGROUNDS AND HAS
BUILT HUTS AND YERTS THAT ANYONE
CAN RESERVE.
IT ALLOWS HUNTING ON MANY

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PROPERTIES, WHICH HELPS TO BUILD
SUPPORT AMONG MONTANANS.
>> ACROSS THE WEST YOU SEE MORE
AND MORE "NO TRESPASSING" SIGNS.

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WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
WILDLIFE AND WILDLIFE HABITAT.
BUT CERTAINLY PROVIDING ACCESS
FOR PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE, LEARN

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FROM, RECREATE ON THIS LAND IS A
REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT
WE'RE DOING AS WELL.
>> Reporter: THE DEBATE OVER

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AMERICAN PRAIRIE IS OFTEN FRAMED
AS AN EITHER/OR.
EITHER THERE ARE CATTLE OR
BUFFALO.

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IF PRESERVATIONISTS WIN,
RANCHERS LOSE.
WHAT WE FOUND ACROSS THESE WIDE
EXPANSES OF GRASS WERE MUCH MORE

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SUBTLE SHADES OF GREEN.
>> YOU KNOW WHEN A NEW GROUP
COMES IN, NEW FOLKS, NEW
NEIGHBORS, IT TAKES SOME TIME TO

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LEARN IF IT'S LEGIT.
>> WHAT I THINK I HEAR YOU
SAYING IS THEY HAVE TO EARN YOUR
TRUST.

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>> MM-HMM.
>> AND SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT.
>> NO.
THAT TRUST ISN'T GIVEN LIGHTLY.

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>> WITH THE SIZE OF THE STATE OF
MONTANA AND THE HERDS OF CATTLE,
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS
IN THIS STATE, I DON'T THINK

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BUFFALO WILL EVER COMPETE.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO DO.
WE'RE TRYING WITH AMERICAN

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PRAIRIE TO TAKE A SECTION OF
LAND IN THE STATE AND RETURN IT
BACK AS BEST WE CAN TO WHAT IT
WAS 200 YEARS AGO.

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>> IT'S A HUGE SECTION OF LAND.
>> STILL NOT BIGGER THAN
MONTANA.
I THINK THERE'S ROOM HERE FOR

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BOTH.

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>>> SHE'S ONE OF THE MOST
BELOVED COOKS IN THE COUNTRY.
INA GARTEN, KNOWN AS THE
BAREFOOT CONTESSA.

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HER COOKBOOKS HAVE SOLD MORE
THAN 7 MILLION COPIES.
HER WEEKLY TELEVISION SHOW HAS
RUN FOR TWO DECADES, EARNED

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SEVEN EMMYS, THREE JAMES BEARD
AWARDS, AND MILLIONS OF DEVOTED
FANS WHO TUNE IN AS MUCH FOR THE
COOKING LESSON AS THE COCKTAIL

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PARTY THAT TYPICALLY FOLLOWS.
SO WE WERE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT
INA GARTEN ISN'T QUITE AS
FREE-WHEELING AS YOU MIGHT

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THINK.
AS REMARKABLE AS HER CULINARY
CHOPS MAY BE, INA GARTEN'S
SUCCESS HINGES ON HARD WORK,

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SHREWD BUSINESS SENSE, AND
LEAVING NOTHING TO CHANCE.
>> THIS IS JUST A GREAT
WEEKNIGHT MEAL.

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IT'S SO EASY TO DO.
YOU DO THE FIRST STAGE, HAVE
YOURSELF A GLASS OF WINE.
DO THE SECOND STAGE AND DINNER

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READY.
>> Reporter: WHETHER SHE'S
WHIPPING UP ONE OF HER SIGNATURE
CHICKEN DISHES, SLINGING COSMOS

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FOR HER REAL-LIFE FRIENDS, OR
SCOOPING ICE CREAM, INA GARTEN
IS A CALMING PRESENCE IN THE
KITCHEN, TAKING THE MYSTERY OUT

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OF COOKING.
>> DONE.
NOW, HOW EASY IS THAT?
>> Reporter: SHE'S BUILT A

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CULINARY EMPIRE BY MAKING IT ALL
LOOK EFFORTLESS.
>> I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE
THIS, BUT I'M REALLY A NERVOUS

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COOK.
AND I'M SURE EVERY RECIPE'S
GOING TO TURN OUT WRONG.
SO I'M INCREDIBLY PRECISE.

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>> EVEN NOW?
>> EVEN NOW.
>> I'M THERE WITH A COOKBOOK
GOING, IS IT A HALF A TEASPOON

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OR A WHOLE TEASPOON?
>> ARE YOU REALLY?
>> I HAVE TO FOLLOW MY OWN
RECIPES EXACTLY.

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BECAUSE I'VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME
GETTING THE BALANCE OF FLAVORS
AND TEXTURES AND EVERYTHING
RIGHT.

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I'M REALLY NOT A CONFIDENT COOK.
>> I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WERE,
LIKE, SWIGGING WINE AND, YOU
KNOW, TOSSING --

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>> LET'S KEEP THAT IMAGE GOING.
>> SO THIS IS MY COMMUTE TO
WORK.
>> OH.

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AWFUL FOR YOU.
>> I KNOW.
>> Reporter: AT 74 THE IMAGE OF
INA GARTEN WITH HER DENIM SHIRT,

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CHIC SCARVES AND SIGNATURE BOB
IS AS RELIABLE AS THE TRIED AND
TRUE RECIPES SHE'S BUILT HER
REPUTATION ON.

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THOSE RECIPES ARE A ROAD MAP FOR
HOME COOKS FROM A HOME COOK.
>> PEOPLE LIKE BOBBY FLAY HAVE
WORKED IN RESTAURANT KITCHENS

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ALL HIS LIFE, AND HE CAN JUST
THROW THINGS TOGETHER.
I'VE WATCHED HIM.
HE'S SUCH A BRILLIANT COOK.

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I'M NOT THAT PERSON.
I DIDN'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE TESTING
AND TESTING YOURSELF AT FIRST,

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HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO
MAKE SOMETHING BEFORE YOU ZBLSH
I
--

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>> I MEAN, SOMETIMES 10 TIMES.
SOMETIMES 25 TIMES.
AND THEN I'LL PRINT OUT A PAGE
AND GIVE IT TO ONE OF MY

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ASSISTANTS AND WATCH THEM MAKE
IT.
AND IT SO SURPRISES ME WHAT
PEOPLE DO.

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I WAS MAKING LENTIL SALAD,
FRENCH LENTILS.
AND SHE WAS PUTTING IN GARLIC IN
IT.

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I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
AND SHE SAID, WELL, IT SAYS
CLOVES.
CLOVES OF GARLIC IN IT.

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AND I WAS LIKE NO, IT'S CLOVES.
NOT CLOVES OF GARLIC.
AND I THOUGHT, I NEVER WOULD
HAVE MADE THAT MISTAKE.

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BUT SOMEBODY ELSE AT HOME IS
GOING TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE
I'M RIGHT THERE BESIDE YOU JUST

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KIND OF GUIDING YOU THROUGH THE
RECIPE.
>> SO THIS IS THE SECRET GARDEN.
>> DON'T TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

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>> Reporter: GARTEN HAS BEEN
GUIDING VIEWERS FROM HER HOME IN
EAST HAMPTON, NEW YORK FOR 20
YEARS.

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>> I LOVE THESE TOMATOES.
>> DO YOU REALLY DO THE
GARDENING?
>> WELL, I POINT.

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>> SO YES.
>> YES.
>> Reporter: IT MAY SEEM LIKE
SHE GREW OUT OF THE RICH LONG

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ISLAND SOIL.
SHE DID NOT.
BORN IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK, INA
ROSENBERG GREW UP IN STAMFORD,

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CONNECTICUT.
HER DAD WAS A DOCTOR, HER MOM A
DIETICIAN.
AS A TEENAGER SHE WAS INSTRUCTED

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TO STAY OUT OF THE KITCHEN AND
EXCEL IN SCHOOL.
SHE DID BOTH.
SHE MET HER FUTURE HUSBAND,

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JEFFREY GARTEN, WHILE SHE WAS 16
YEARS OLD AND FOUR YEARS LATER
THEY WERE MARRIED.
JEFFREY, A LIEUTENANT IN THE

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82nd AIRBORNE, LATER TOOK HER
BACKPACKING THROUGH FRANCE.
SHE CAME HOME WITH AN AMBITIOUS
MISSION.

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>> SO I GOT JULIA CHILD'S
"MASTERING THE ART OF FRENCH
COOKING," AND I JUST WORKED MY
WAY THROUGH THOSE BOOKS, WHICH

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WERE VERY COMPLICATED RECIPES.
I MEAN, THERE WERE INGREDIENTS
IN EACH RECIPE THAT WAS ANOTHER
RECIPE IN ITSELF.

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AND I LOVED THAT CHALLENGE.
>> YOU NEVER WENT TO COOKING
SCHOOL?
>> NEVER WENT TO COOKING SCHOOL.

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>> WAS JULIA CHILD'S BOOK YOUR
COOKING SCHOOL?
>> JULIA CHILD WAS MY COOKING
SCHOOL.

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YEAH.
EXACTLY.
>> Reporter: HER ACTUAL DEGREE
WAS IN ECONOMICS.

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AT 26 SHE HAD A JOB AT THE WHITE
HOUSE
HOUSE.
ANALYZING NUCLEAR ENERGY POLICY

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FOR THE FORD ADMINISTRATION.
JEFFREY WORKED AROUND THE CONNER
AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
EACH WEEKEND INA SAYS THEY

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DEVOTE THEIR TIME TO LESS
BUREAUCRATIC PURSUITS LIKE
MAKING A GREAT DINNER PARTY LOOK
SIMPLE.

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>> TO THIS DAY I NEVER MADE
SOMETHING FOR A DINNER PARTY I
HADN'T MADE SEVERAL TIMES.
SO I WOULD ON MONDAY -- I WOULD

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MAKE THE ROAST LEG OF LAMB WITH
TOMATOES WITH DUXEL, WHICH ARE
MINCED MUSHROOMS, FOR JEFFREY
FOR DINNER.

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>> LUCKY MAN.
>> AND THEN I'D MAKE IT AGAIN ON
WEDNESDAY.
AND BY SATURDAY I KNEW HOW IT

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MAKE IT.
AND THE POOR GUY WOULD GO OH,
THIS IS DELICIOUS, WHAT IS THIS?
>> Reporter: AFTER A THOUSAND

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DINNER PARTIES AND TWO
ADMINISTRATIONS, AT 30 YEARS OLD
INA HAD BURNED OUT OF LIFE
INSIDE THE BELTWAY.

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IN 1978 SHE SAW THIS AD IN THE
BACK OF THE "NEW YORK TIMES" FOR
A 400-SQUARE-FOOT SPECIALTY FOOD
STORE IN WEST HAMPTON, NEW YORK

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CALLED THE BAREFOOT CONTESSA.
>> BUT YOU HAD NEVER BEEN TO THE
HAMPTONS.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

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RUNNING A STORE.
>> I KNEW HOW TO MAKE 12
BROWNIES FOR MY FRIENDS BUT I
CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO

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MAKE 100 BROWNIES.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO CASH
OUT THE REGISTER OR SLICE SMOKED
SALMON.

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TO ME BRIE WAS LIKE A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE.
>> SO WAS IT CONFIDENCE THAT
ALLOWED YOU TO DO THAT OR WAS IT

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THAT YOU WERE BEING NAIVE?
>> I HAVE A VERY LOW THRESHOLD
OF BOREDOM.
AND I WAS REALLY BORED WITH MY

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JOB.
AND I JUST THOUGHT THIS IS
REALLY EXCITING, THIS IS THAT I
DO FOR FUN AND NOW I CAN DO IT

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PROFESSIONALLY.
AND SO I JUST THOUGHT I'M JUST
GOING TO JUMP IN, THINKING,
WELL, HOW HARD COULD THIS BE?

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OH, MY GOD.
>> Reporter: IT WAS REALLY HARD.
THE GARTENS SAY THEY DOUBLE
MORTGAGED THEIR HOUSE.

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INA TOLD US SHE WAS WORKING 20
HOURS A DAY TO KEEP UP WITH THE
CROWDS WHO CAME TO GAWK AT THE
GOODS AND LOAD UP ON LOBSTER

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SALAD.
SOON SHE OPENED A BIGGER SHOP IN
EAST HAMPTON.
>> IT'S VERY DELIBERATE.

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I WAS ALWAYS DOING RESEARCH.
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS
JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME,
WANDERING AROUND HAVING A PARTY,

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BUT IT WAS ALL CAREFUL AND
DELIBERATE.
>> Reporter: A CALCULATING
BUSINESSWOMAN, INA GARTEN

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ELEVATED THE FOOD SCENE AND SOON
HAD FINICKY HAMPTONS CLIENTELE
FALLING OVER THEMSELVES TO HAVE
THE BAREFOOT CONTESSA CATER

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THEIR WEDDINGS OR THANKSGIVING.
>> AND EVERY YEAR WE WOULD PACK
UP THE ORDERS WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
SO PEOPLE COULD COME IN THURSDAY

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MORNING.
AND I WOULD USE THE VAN NEXT TO
THE STORE AS A REFRIGERATOR.
AND ONE YEAR IT WAS LIKE 33

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DEGREES WHEN I WAS GOING HOME
AND I THOUGHT, NOBODY WANTS
FROZEN THANKSGIVING DINNER.
SO I DROVE THE VAN HOME AND I

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SET MY ALARM FOR EVERY SINGLE
HOUR ALL NIGHT TO TURN THE HEAT
ON FOR A FEW MINUTES AND THEN GO
BACK TO SLEEP.

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>> TO KEEP THE TURKEYS WARM.
>> TO KEEP THE TURKEYS -- WELL,
THE TURKEYS WE ROASTED IN THE
MORNING.

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BUT LIKE THE VEGETABLES AND THE
SIDES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
>> Reporter: AFTER 18 YEARS
GARTEN DECIDED TO SELL THE

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BAREFOOT CONTESSA IN 1996.
>> SO I MEAN ONE MINUTE I'M
MAKING A THOUSAND BAGGETTS.
AND THE NEXT MINUTE I HAVE

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NOTHING TO DO.
>> HOW WAS THAT?
>> IT WAS HORRIBLE.
AND I THOUGHT YOU KNOW, I'M 50.

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MAYBE THAT'S THE END OF MY
CAREER.
>> Reporter: HARDLY.
THE LULL LASTED NINE MONTHS

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BEFORE GARTEN STARTED WRITING
"THE BAREFOOT CONTESSA
COOKBOOK."
THE FIRST OF 13 COOKBOOKS, NINE

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OF WHICH BECAME "NEW YORK TIMES"
BEST-SELLERS.
CRUSHING BIG NAME CHEFS BY
REMEMBERING THE LESSONS LEARNED

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AT HER SPECIALTY FOOD SHOP.
>> I REALIZED LATER WHAT I KNEW
WAS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO EAT AT
HOME, WHICH WAS ROAST CHICKEN

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AND ROAST CARROTS AND CHOCOLATE
CAKE AND COCONUT CUPCAKES AND
THINGS I KNEW FROM THE STORE
PEOPLE BOUGHT AND TOOK HOME.

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>> YOU WEREN'T TRYING TO SAY
HERE'S EVERYTHING I KNOW.
YOU WERE SAYING HERE'S WHAT YOU
NEED TO KNOW.

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>> YEAH.
HERE'S WHAT WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY
AT HOME.
>> Reporter: HER LATEST

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COOKBOOK, "GO-TO DINNERS," WAS
INSPIRED BY THE PANDEMIC.
AND AGAIN, INA IS IN EVERY
DETAIL.

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>> ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE
BOOK THAT IS NOT BY ACCIDENT IS
THAT YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE
COUNTER AND IT DOESN'T FLOP

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SHUT.
>> I'M SO GLAD YOU NOTICED THAT.
>> Reporter: EARLY ON GARTEN
SOUGHT OUT A PRINTER IN JAPAN SO

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HER COOKBOOKS WOULD LIE FLAT,
WOULDN'T CLOSE WHILE COOKING.
SHE DESIGNED THEM TO HAVE WHITE
SPACE FOR NOTES AND PICTURES AS

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GUIDES.
SIMPLICITY IS A NON-NEGOTIABLE.
>> DO YOU EVER THROW SOMETHING
OUT BECAUSE IT'S TOO DIFFICULT

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TO MAKE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IF I GET TO A POINT IN A RECIPE
AND I GO I'M NEVER GOING TO MAKE

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THIS RECIPE AGAIN, EVERYTHING
GOES IN THE TRASH.
AND IF YOU'RE EXHAUSTED BY THE
TIME YOU FINISH THAT, IT'S NOT

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GOOD FOR THE PARTY.
>> SO YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE
PARTY ABOVE ALL THINGS.
>> I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THE

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PARTY.
>> Reporter: THE PARTY GOT REAL
BIG REAL FAST AFTER INA WAS
INVITED TO BE ON MARTHA

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STEWART'S SHOW.
AN OUTTAKE CAUGHT THE EYE OF A
FOOD NETWORK EXECUTIVE.
>> SHE SAID THAT I WAS MAKING

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SOMETHING AND I TOOK A SPOONFUL
OF IT AND TASTE TD AND GO, THIS
IS REALLY GOOD.
AND THE MARTHA STEWART CREW SAID

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CUT, YOU CAN'T TALK WITH YOUR
MOUTH FULL.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHY?
IT'S A COOKING SHOW.

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>> Reporter: GARTEN TOLD NETWORK
EXECUTIVES SHE DIDN'T WANT A
SHOW BUT EVENTUALLY GAVE IN WITH
A CAVEAT.

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INSTEAD OF AN ADORING STUDIO
AUDIENCE SHEINSISTED ON A MORE
INTIMATE AFFAIR IN HER KITCHEN.
SHE DIRECTED THE CAMERAS TO COME

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CLOSER SO IT FELT LIKE A DINNER
PARTY.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'M
FASCINATED BY IS THERE ARE A LOT

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OF PEOPLE WHO WATCH YOUR SHOW
WHO DON'T COOK.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE APPEAL IS?
WHY ARE THEY WATCHING YOU COOK?

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>> I THINK THERE WAS A TIME WHEN
MOM WAS IN THE KITCHEN COOKING
FOR US, AND I THINK PEOPLE FEEL
LIKE THEY'RE JUST HANGING OUT

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WITH ME AND I'M COOKING FOR
THEM.
>> AND YOU'RE COOKING, YOU'RE
NOT -- IT'S NOT ABOUT LOOK AT

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ME.
>> OH, IT'S NEVER ABOUT LOOK AT
ME.
I'M LIKE DON'T LOOK AT ME.

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I'M JUST THE OPPOSITE.
IT'S FUNNY.
I HAVE A FRIEND WHO SAID
EVERYBODY ELSE IS LIKE LOOK AT

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ME, LOOK AT ME, PAY ATTENTION TO
HE ME.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THIS IS WHAT
I DO.

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YOU CAN DO WHATEVER THE
[ BLEEP ] YOU WANT TO DO.
AND I'M JUST HAVING FUN HERE.
>> Reporter: THE FUN CAME TO A

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SCREECHING HALT FOR INA AND
EVERYONE ELSE DURING THE
PANDEMIC.
UNABLE TO FILM HER SHOW OR COOK

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FOR HER FRIENDS, GARTEN TURNED
TO INSTAGRAM, OFFERING PRACTICAL
ADVICE TO HOME COOKS.
>> IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP

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TRADITIONS ALIVE.
>> Reporter: AND STRING UP SOME
FUN.
>> YOU NEVER KNEW WHO WAS GOING

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TO STOP BY.
WAIT A MINUTE, NOBODY'S STOPPING
BY.
>> Reporter: TWO CUPS OF VODKA

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AND MORE THAN 3 MILLION VIEWS
LATER --
>> DELICIOUS.
>> Reporter: WITH THE LOCKDOWN

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OVER WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE INA
DIDN'T HAVE TO DRINK ALONE.
>> JEFFREY ARRIVES.
>> HI, SWEETIE.

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>> HI.
>> YOU KNOW SHARYN, RIGHT?
>> I KNOW SHARYN.
HI, SHARYN.

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>> SO WE MADE A RED GRAPEFRUIT
PALOMA FOR YOU.
HOW'S THAT?
?

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WOW.
>> Reporter: MR. GARTEN HAD A
SUCCESSFUL CAREER ON WALL STREET
AND SERVED AS THE DEAN OF YALE'S

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BUSINESS SCHOOL.
BUT MILLIONS OF VIEWERS KNOW HIM
SIMPLY AS JEFFREY.
INA HAS CALLED YOU HER MUSE

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BEFORE.
WHAT IS SHE TO YOU?
>> WELL, SHE'S THE CENTER OF MY
LIFE.

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>> AW.
>> SHE'S ACTUALLY THE FONT OF AN
ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF FUN.
AND SHE IS THE CENTER OF THE

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HOME.
THAT'S WHAT SHE IS TO ME.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT'S NOT BAD.

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>> Reporter: THE COUPLE'S BEEN
MARRIED FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS.
>> IS THIS A TYPICAL DAY AT THE
HOUSE?

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>> OH, YEAH.
WE HAVE COCKTAILS ALL THE TIME.
>> A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY.
>> AND THAT'S THE SECRET TO A

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HAPPY MARRIAGE.
>> EXACTLY RIGHT.
>> JUST DELICIOUS.
>> THANK YOU.

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>> Reporter: THE NEXT MORNING WE
WENT LOOKING FOR CARBS.
BUT IN THE HAMPTONS THE CORNER
SHOP DOESN'T SELL DONUTS.

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>> THIS IS CARISSA'S.
>> SO CUTE.
>> ISN'T IT WONDERFUL?
>> Reporter: GARTEN TOOK US TO

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HER FAVORITE LOCAL BAKERY FOR A
TASTE OF THE GOOD LIFE.
>> WHAT IS IT YOU LOVE ABOUT
THIS SPOT?

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>> WELL, FIRST I LOVE CARISSA'S
BECAUSE IT'S TWO LOCAL WOMEN AND
THE TWO OF THEM HAVE BUILT THIS
EXTRAORDINARY PLACE WITH GREAT

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QUALITY FOOD.
THEY USE LOCAL INGREDIENTS IN
ALMOST EVERYTHING.
AND THEY'RE HERE EVERY DAY.

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AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE WHAT I
USED TO DO.
IT FEELS LIKE COMING HOME.
OH.

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LOOK HOW FABULOUS THAT IS.
>> WOW.
THAT IS FANCY.
THIS IS JUST TYPICALLY WHAT I

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WOULD HAVE FOR BREAKFAST.
>> EXACTLY.
>> THIS IS ALL LOVELY.
BUT THE BACON, EGG AND CHEESE

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SANDWICH IS LIKE $20.
A LOBSTER ROLL'S 38.
>> BUT YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL,
IT'S ORGANIC, IT'S LOCAL.

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AND THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE HERE.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST A PIECE OF
WHITE BREAD.
IT'S ON A ROLL THAT CARISSA

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MADE.
ONE OF THE LUXURIES OF BEING
HERE IS THAT YOU CAN MAKE A
REALLY GOOD-QUALITY PRODUCT.

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>> Reporter: GARTEN'S LIFE ISN'T
ALL FRENCH PASTRIES AND
ROSE-COLORED COCKTAILS.
BUT WE THOUGHT IT'S PRETTY DANG

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CLOSE.
SHE MAY STILL BE A NERVOUS COOK,
BUT INA GARTEN HAS NAILED THE
RECIPE FOR A GOOD LIFE.

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>> I WANT TO DO WHAT I LOVE
DOING, AND I WANT TO DO IT
REALLY WELL.
AND THEN I WANT TO HAVE A LIFE.

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>> JULIA SOLD FRENCH FOOD.
RIGHT?
MARTHA SOLD PERFECTION.
YOU'RE SLINGING FUN.

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>> WELL, I JUST THINK IF YOU'RE
NOT HAVING FUN WHAT'S THE POINT?
>>> THE LAST MINUTE OF "60
MINUTES" IS SPONSORED BY UNITED

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HEALTHCARE.
GET MEDICARE WITH MORE.
>>> IN THE MAIL THIS WEEK, AS
RUSSIA STEPPED UP ITS DRONE

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ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN TARGETS IN
UKRAINE, VIEWERS COMMENTED ON
SCOTT PELLEY'S STORY LAST SUNDAY
ON "THE LOST SOULS OF BUCHA,"

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AND THE ATTEMPT TO RESTORE NAMES
AND FACES TO CIVILIANS HASTILY
BURIED IN A MASS GRAVE IN THE
KYIV SUBURB.

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"THANK YOU FOR HONORING THE DEAD
OF BUCHA AND REACHING OUR HEARTS
AND CONSCIENCES."
"YOU WILL GET SOME COMPLAINTS

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ABOUT THE GRAPHIC NATURE OF YOUR
REPORT ON BUCHA, BUT IT WAS
BRILLIANTLY DONE AND IMPORTANT
FOR EVERYONE TO SEE AND

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UNDERSTAND."
AND THERE WAS THIS FROM A
CANADIAN VIEWER.
"SO UTTERLY HEARTBREAKING,

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SHOCKING, TERRIFYING AND
HORRIFYING, PRODUCING TEARS AND
ANGER THAT I'VE NO DOUBT ARE THE
COLLECTIVE REACTIONS OF THOSE

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WHO WATCHED THIS."
I'M ANDERSON COOPER.
WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK WITH