1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,480 - Another body at Yates' burial ground. 2 00:00:03,490 --> 00:00:05,460 - Someone committed this horrific crime 3 00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:07,820 to piggyback it onto crimes I've been accused of. 4 00:00:07,820 --> 00:00:08,950 - You know who the killer is. 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,590 - Dr. Carl Rudnick. 6 00:00:10,590 --> 00:00:12,820 - Accusing the Deputy Chief ME of rape and murder? 7 00:00:12,830 --> 00:00:14,800 - Oh, you can't think that I had anything to do with this. 8 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,600 - Carl Rudnick, you're under arrest. 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,630 - Something happened to Susie. 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,370 She was supposed to call this morning. 11 00:00:21,370 --> 00:00:23,070 Rudnick's still in custody, isn't he? 12 00:00:23,070 --> 00:00:25,070 - No, he made bail last night. 13 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:29,380 - We're not sure it's Susie. 14 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:30,780 - We are now. 15 00:00:37,620 --> 00:00:39,590 Male announcer: In the criminal justice system, 16 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:43,095 sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. 17 00:00:43,096 --> 00:00:45,420 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 18 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:47,430 who investigate these vicious felonies 19 00:00:47,430 --> 00:00:48,920 are members of an elite squad 20 00:00:48,930 --> 00:00:50,930 known as the Special Victims Unit. 21 00:00:50,930 --> 00:00:53,430 These are their stories. 22 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:56,340 - What the hell is going on here? 23 00:00:56,340 --> 00:00:57,640 - Exigent circumstances. 24 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,030 - Oh, nice try. 25 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,200 I don't hear anyone screaming for help. 26 00:01:01,210 --> 00:01:04,070 You have a warrant to search Dr. Rudnick's house? 27 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,540 - We had one yesterday. 28 00:01:05,550 --> 00:01:08,420 - And now you need a new one. - Really, Rita? 29 00:01:08,420 --> 00:01:11,420 - We don't know that Dr. Rudnick was involved. 30 00:01:11,420 --> 00:01:12,780 - Where's your client, Rita? 31 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:14,490 - I haven't heard from him. 32 00:01:14,490 --> 00:01:17,820 - He is the suspect in this murder, okay? 33 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:20,100 You hear from him, you better let us know. 34 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:22,670 - The only legal obligation I have 35 00:01:22,670 --> 00:01:24,870 is to make sure that he shows up at trial. 36 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:27,110 - Wow. You're claiming attorney-client privilege 37 00:01:27,110 --> 00:01:30,200 for a psychopath who's on the run, 38 00:01:30,210 --> 00:01:31,310 who gutted a woman. 39 00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:33,180 - I have no knowledge of that, 40 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:35,810 and I have no knowledge of any future acts he may commit. 41 00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:37,410 - His car is missing. 42 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:38,910 He's not answering his telephone. 43 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,090 We need to search this house now. 44 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:45,580 - And you can as soon as you get a warrant. 45 00:01:57,900 --> 00:01:59,905 - Fin's at Real Time checking traffic cams. 46 00:01:59,906 --> 00:02:01,600 Sarge is at Rudnick's town house. 47 00:02:01,610 --> 00:02:03,310 There's no sign of this guy. He's in the wind. 48 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:06,210 - Yeah, well, he murdered and dismembered Susie Frain. 49 00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:07,450 I wouldn't have stuck around either. 50 00:02:07,450 --> 00:02:10,310 We're still missing a left leg. 51 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:13,440 [camera shutter clicking] 52 00:02:17,050 --> 00:02:18,780 Ah, that's a calf. 53 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:21,560 - Sawed off at the left knee, not a lot of blood. 54 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,590 - [gags, groans softly] 55 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:26,460 - You guys got this, right? 56 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:28,390 - [clears throat] Yeah, give me one second. 57 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,670 Oh. [vomits] 58 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:32,770 - Oh, easy. You all right? 59 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:35,940 - Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine. 60 00:02:39,610 --> 00:02:42,380 I am going to drive us back, okay? 61 00:02:42,380 --> 00:02:45,280 [camera shutter clicking] 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,840 - 12 hours after Rudnick posts bail, 63 00:02:46,850 --> 00:02:48,550 a potential prosecution witness 64 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:50,150 is found in pieces with the morning tide? 65 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:51,980 - We're well aware of the problem. 66 00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:53,525 - Counselor. - Where the hell is he? 67 00:02:53,526 --> 00:02:54,980 - This is all we know, okay? 68 00:02:54,990 --> 00:02:57,090 He was last seen posting bond at 8:00 p.m. last night. 69 00:02:57,090 --> 00:02:58,620 - Uber driver confirms dropping him off 70 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:59,900 at his Harlem town house. 71 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:02,100 So, sometime between last night and this morning, 72 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:03,700 he goes to Susie Frain's apartment, 73 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:05,270 he dismembers her, he bags the body, 74 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:06,610 dumps her in the water at Fort Tilden, 75 00:03:06,610 --> 00:03:07,730 and then he disappears. 76 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:09,210 - We've got a BOLO out on his car, 77 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:10,480 his credit, his bank cards. 78 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,700 So far, no hits. 79 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:12,950 - No sightings, no traffic cams. 80 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:14,370 Does everyone know he dresses in drag? 81 00:03:14,380 --> 00:03:16,280 - We've alerted state troopers and the FBI. 82 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,010 - Oh, they already know. 83 00:03:18,010 --> 00:03:19,910 The ME's office, the mayor's office, 84 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:22,120 the people in my office... [cell phone vibrating] 85 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,690 People are falling over themselves to point fingers. 86 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:25,160 - Okay, I get it. It's a mess, all right? 87 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,890 No leave, no vacation, no... 88 00:03:27,890 --> 00:03:30,590 - Yes, I'll hold for the governor. 89 00:03:30,590 --> 00:03:32,850 Find him. - Okay. 90 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:36,120 - Wow. Somebody needs a vacation. 91 00:03:36,130 --> 00:03:37,890 - You can't blame him. 92 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:40,030 I mean, the guy jumps bail, and then he kills our witness. 93 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,270 - Speaking of, 94 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:43,370 we need to notify Yates that his fiancée is dead. 95 00:03:43,370 --> 00:03:45,130 - Look, that's not a priority right now. 96 00:03:45,140 --> 00:03:46,270 He'll find out on the news. 97 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,010 - I know he will, but the photo, Sergeant, 98 00:03:49,010 --> 00:03:51,540 the photo that Rudnick sent to Susie pretending he was Lena... 99 00:03:51,550 --> 00:03:54,450 CSU tore her house apart. They couldn't find it anywhere. 100 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:56,010 - Yeah, of course they couldn't. 101 00:03:56,020 --> 00:03:57,890 That's why Rudnick went to her house in the first place. 102 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:59,630 - So check her phone records. Find out if she called Rudnick. 103 00:03:59,620 --> 00:04:01,920 - What, do you think she was using that photo for blackmail? 104 00:04:01,930 --> 00:04:05,230 You know she did not come up with that idea on her own. 105 00:04:05,230 --> 00:04:06,930 - Which is why I need to talk to Yates. 106 00:04:06,930 --> 00:04:08,700 You know he's more open when it's just the two of us. 107 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:10,430 - Nice try, Rollins. 108 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:13,830 [telephones ringing in the background] 109 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,340 - [sighs] Susie. 110 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:22,410 Can I see the body? 111 00:04:22,410 --> 00:04:24,940 - That's not going to be possible, Dr. Yates. 112 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:27,080 - Are you sure it was her? 113 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,780 - We're sure. I'm sorry. 114 00:04:30,250 --> 00:04:32,410 - So we were hoping, uh, to talk to you 115 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:35,720 about your last conversation with Susie Frain. 116 00:04:35,730 --> 00:04:37,860 - Yes, of course. 117 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:39,790 How did Rudnick kill her? 118 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,330 - Still waiting on the autopsy. 119 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:43,590 - You are? 120 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,740 Could you ask the ME to test her HCG levels? 121 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:48,100 - Excuse me? 122 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:51,030 - I'd like to know whether Susie was pregnant. 123 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,000 That afternoon in April before I was arrested, 124 00:04:55,010 --> 00:04:56,240 we made love. 125 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:59,020 I could sense that she was ovulating. 126 00:04:59,020 --> 00:05:01,250 When we had our conjugal, 127 00:05:01,250 --> 00:05:04,310 she agreed to take a pregnancy test. 128 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:11,020 It's quite possible that I was going to be a father... 129 00:05:11,030 --> 00:05:13,270 and he took that from me. 130 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,600 [dramatic music] 131 00:05:25,610 --> 00:05:33,610 ♪ 132 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:41,680 - You got something? - Yeah, I got a hold of Fin. 133 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:13,820 He and TARU have been going through Rudnick's computers, 134 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:16,020 finances, flagging every credit card that they could find. 135 00:06:16,030 --> 00:06:17,195 - Okay, any hits? - Not yet. 136 00:06:17,196 --> 00:06:18,350 But they did find this. 137 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,020 So Dr. Crazy's been wiring money from a trust 138 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:22,370 to four different personal accounts 139 00:06:22,370 --> 00:06:23,800 under four different names. 140 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,940 - So contact these people. - We're trying, Sarge. 141 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:28,170 But as of now, their only known addresses are PO boxes. 142 00:06:28,170 --> 00:06:30,330 I mean, we can't find any employers, phone listings. 143 00:06:30,340 --> 00:06:32,240 - Okay, so they're false fronts. 144 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,170 - I just got something from the DMV. 145 00:06:34,180 --> 00:06:35,780 See that Terry Fish account up there? 146 00:06:35,780 --> 00:06:37,080 I just found a Teresa Fish 147 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,180 that has an apartment in the same zip as that PO box. 148 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:41,010 - Great. 149 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:42,450 - Oh. 150 00:06:42,450 --> 00:06:43,610 Rudnick's a blonde now. 151 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:47,060 - Teresa got her license in October of last year. 152 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:49,030 I'll put a BOLO out. - You know what? I'll do that. 153 00:06:49,030 --> 00:06:50,530 You two, get up to that apartment. 154 00:06:50,530 --> 00:06:53,400 If we get lucky, Rudnick may be hiding there. 155 00:06:56,930 --> 00:06:59,060 - Hey, you all right? 156 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,240 - Why wouldn't I be? - I don't know. 157 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,540 Usually, you're two steps ahead of me, 158 00:07:02,540 --> 00:07:04,410 and I've never seen you queasy at a crime scene before. 159 00:07:04,410 --> 00:07:07,210 - Yeah, I had a bad bagel yesterday. 160 00:07:07,210 --> 00:07:08,610 I'm totally fine. 161 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,680 - I wondered if something happened to poor Terry. 162 00:07:15,690 --> 00:07:19,420 I ain't seen her in a while here, maybe since April. 163 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:21,920 Is she okay? We miss her around here. 164 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:23,700 - You know her? You talk to her much? 165 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:25,150 - Is that a joke? 166 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,820 - Does it look like either of us are laughing? 167 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:29,100 - It sounds like a joke. 168 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:32,740 Terry's mute, deaf too. 169 00:07:32,740 --> 00:07:34,370 She used to write me little notes, you know, 170 00:07:34,370 --> 00:07:38,010 if she needed something, but never a complaint. 171 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:41,280 She paid her rent a year in advance. 172 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,510 [knock at door] Terry! 173 00:07:44,510 --> 00:07:46,510 Oh, what am I doing? 174 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 It's not like she can hear me. 175 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:10,440 - You lay this new floor in here? 176 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,080 - I told you she was a good tenant. 177 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,850 She must have put that in herself. 178 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:15,200 - Right. 179 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:37,130 Carisi. 180 00:08:37,130 --> 00:08:39,330 - Hey, I found more wigs and floral print dresses, 181 00:08:39,340 --> 00:08:40,870 lots of them. 182 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:43,740 - It's red hair, just like Rachel Groves'. 183 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:46,080 And these look like cutting marks to you? 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,750 - Totally. I'll call CSU. 185 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,820 - I got your message about Rudnick's aliases 186 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:55,890 so I rechecked his Jane Doe autopsies. 187 00:08:55,890 --> 00:08:57,890 The last one was in October. 188 00:08:57,890 --> 00:09:01,325 50-year-old homeless woman found dead on the E train, 189 00:09:01,326 --> 00:09:02,720 listed as natural causes. 190 00:09:02,730 --> 00:09:04,990 - Never ID'd. 191 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:09,020 - Rudnick's paperwork says "no match on fingerprints or DNA." 192 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:10,830 But I got a print hit 193 00:09:10,830 --> 00:09:15,630 on a New York City food stamp application... Teresa Fish. 194 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,880 - Rudnick wanted to make sure that nobody would miss her 195 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,040 so he could steal her identity. 196 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,040 - Identity thief, rapist, killer... 197 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:25,780 The damage he's done to this office, 198 00:09:25,780 --> 00:09:27,380 it makes me furious. 199 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:28,880 - Not to mention they brought him up from Dade County 200 00:09:28,890 --> 00:09:31,020 instead of giving you that promotion. 201 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:33,820 You know, you should reapply. 202 00:09:33,820 --> 00:09:37,450 - Before I do that, I need to rerun DNA and prints 203 00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:40,800 on every body he's ever sent to Potter's Field. 204 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,900 - [sighs] 205 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:45,540 Thank you, Melinda. 206 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:47,200 - You were right. 207 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,370 One can see pronounced gouges on this bottom layer. 208 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:52,600 - Any guess on what the implement was? 209 00:09:52,610 --> 00:09:54,610 - I'd say it's a large, flat blade, 210 00:09:54,610 --> 00:09:57,370 maybe a cleaver. - Oh. 211 00:09:57,380 --> 00:10:02,120 - Aha, it's a pattern, white marks, strokes. 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,560 - So he tried to wipe off the blood, maybe what, with bleach? 213 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,580 - Yeah, but he didn't get it all, hence the glow. 214 00:10:12,830 --> 00:10:15,200 - [grunts] 215 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Okay. 216 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,600 Dried blood. 217 00:10:23,610 --> 00:10:26,040 - Quite apparent something barbarous happened here. 218 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,300 - Yeah. 219 00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:28,680 - Hey, you up for a flight? 220 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:30,980 - No, not really. - Tough luck. 221 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:32,680 Our plane leaves in 40 minutes. 222 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:34,710 Rudnick just got picked up in Syracuse for shoplifting. 223 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,090 Take a look. 224 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:41,690 - We ran the prints, but the system was down. 225 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:43,150 By the time we got a match, he was gone. 226 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,560 He said his flight was leaving in an hour. 227 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,060 - So you let him walk? Great. 228 00:10:47,060 --> 00:10:48,960 - We thought we had a 50-year-old cross-dresser 229 00:10:48,970 --> 00:10:51,670 near tears because his mother was dying in Canada. 230 00:10:51,670 --> 00:10:53,570 He stole a frickin' box of Coffee Nips. 231 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:54,670 - All right, I get it. 232 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:57,130 - We did give him a desk ticket. - Good for you! 233 00:10:57,140 --> 00:10:58,840 - Listen, Rollins, their system was down. 234 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,070 He said his mother was dying. 235 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,880 All right, we've had a long day. 236 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,380 - The good news is, no one with that name got on a plane, 237 00:11:04,380 --> 00:11:05,620 train, or rented a car. 238 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:06,890 - Did you check his other aliases? 239 00:11:06,890 --> 00:11:08,510 'Cause he has at least four. 240 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,190 - We did. Look, we got this entire town locked down. 241 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:12,420 He's not going anywhere. - Planes, trains, automobiles. 242 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:13,680 Did you check buses? 243 00:11:13,690 --> 00:11:15,390 A Meta Bus left an hour ago for Buffalo. 244 00:11:15,390 --> 00:11:16,790 He could walk to Canada from there. 245 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:17,890 - Yeah. - What time does it arrive? 246 00:11:17,890 --> 00:11:19,150 - It just left Rochester. 247 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,620 It's going to be there in two and a half hours. 248 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:23,570 - We're going to need a squad car now. 249 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:29,200 - Here comes our bus. 250 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:35,250 - You're the detectives from New York? 251 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:36,940 - Yeah. 252 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:38,950 - Bob Hencamp, Buffalo PD. - Dominick Carisi. 253 00:11:38,950 --> 00:11:40,250 This is Detective Rollins. 254 00:11:40,250 --> 00:11:41,520 We call her Sunny. 255 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,250 - Sunny Rollins? Okay. 256 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:46,350 Troopers picked up the bus on I-90 an hour ago, 257 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,960 followed at a discreet distance. 258 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,330 - Well, he's still on board. 259 00:11:49,330 --> 00:11:51,795 - There was an E. Howard credit card purchase in Syracuse. 260 00:11:51,796 --> 00:11:54,220 Bus didn't make any stops between Rochester and here. 261 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:55,930 - Okay, well, let's do this thing. 262 00:11:55,930 --> 00:11:58,690 Nice and easy, all right? We don't want to spook him. 263 00:12:02,070 --> 00:12:03,470 - Dr. Rudnick. 264 00:12:03,470 --> 00:12:05,300 - This is your guy? - I'm Ellie Howard, 265 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:07,180 and I fully intend to pay my fine for shoplifting. 266 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:08,850 - Ms. Howard, stop. 267 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:10,350 Why don't you come with us, all right? 268 00:12:10,350 --> 00:12:13,020 We'll sort this out. 269 00:12:13,020 --> 00:12:14,520 - Hands behind your back, please. 270 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,290 - [sighs] Is that really necessary? 271 00:12:16,290 --> 00:12:18,920 - Let him do his job. 272 00:12:20,860 --> 00:12:24,660 [handcuffs clicking] 273 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:27,230 - All right, come on. 274 00:12:27,230 --> 00:12:33,840 - So you got a cross-dressing rapist, murderer 275 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,670 in your ME's office. 276 00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:38,270 You guys down in New York City really are progressive. 277 00:12:38,270 --> 00:12:39,970 - Did he say anything? 278 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:41,350 - He bitched when we searched him. 279 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:45,010 Maybe because he had a money belt with 64,000 in cash. 280 00:12:45,010 --> 00:12:46,670 - So why is he shoplifting Coffee Nips, then? 281 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:50,350 - Well, that's the $64,000 question. 282 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:52,750 Just give me a minute to finish paperwork, 283 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,420 and he's all yours. 284 00:12:55,420 --> 00:12:57,450 - Do you have a cause of death? 285 00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:59,100 - Manner, homicide. 286 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:01,500 No one ends up like this accidently, 287 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:03,970 Cause of death, exsanguination. 288 00:13:03,970 --> 00:13:05,540 - So she bled out when he cut her up. 289 00:13:05,540 --> 00:13:08,910 - No, the dismemberment occurred post-mortem. 290 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:11,575 The problem is I can't find the initial wound. 291 00:13:11,576 --> 00:13:14,200 Most likely trauma to the femoral vein or artery... 292 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:16,150 Stab wound, maybe gunshot. 293 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:17,815 - To the missing left thigh? 294 00:13:17,816 --> 00:13:21,240 - I would guess that's why Rudnick made it disappear. 295 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:22,990 There's something else. 296 00:13:22,990 --> 00:13:25,560 Susie's tox screen came back clean, 297 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,020 but her HCG levels were high. 298 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:29,580 She was pregnant. 299 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,660 - We aren't actually going to drive 300 00:13:36,670 --> 00:13:38,200 all the way back to Manhattan, are we? 301 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,660 - Shut up. 302 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:41,405 You took the bus up here anyway, right? 303 00:13:41,406 --> 00:13:43,900 - Yes, when I was traveling incognito. 304 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:45,340 - What were you thinking, anyway, 305 00:13:45,340 --> 00:13:47,170 skipping out on a $2 million bail? 306 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:48,350 - Well, what were they thinking? 307 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:50,210 They charged me with two murders, then let me go. 308 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:53,680 Who wouldn't run? [cell phone ringing] 309 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,910 - Hey, Sarge. 310 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Yeah, we're making pretty good time, 311 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,850 as long as we don't get pulled over. 312 00:13:59,860 --> 00:14:00,925 We should be back around... 313 00:14:00,926 --> 00:14:03,050 Wait. Hold on. Let me check my app. 314 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:04,730 - Noon. - Wait. Hold on. 315 00:14:04,730 --> 00:14:06,060 - Noon. - Noon. 316 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:08,360 All right, we'll be back around noon. 317 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,490 All right. Copy that. 318 00:14:12,530 --> 00:14:14,700 They found his car. 319 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:15,930 - Why are you whispering? 320 00:14:15,940 --> 00:14:17,380 Rudnick, they found your car. 321 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:20,640 - Well, give yourselves a gold star. 322 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,240 - We sure it's Rudnick's? 323 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:24,980 - Plates and all identifiers are stripped, 324 00:14:24,980 --> 00:14:26,310 but we got the VIN off the engine block. 325 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,880 - Okay, so why here? 326 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,840 - The train to the plane is a block away. 327 00:14:29,850 --> 00:14:31,980 - Oh, so had we found this any earlier, 328 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:33,420 we would have been searching JFK. 329 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:35,780 - While he got across the border on his Meta Bus. 330 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:38,550 He's not stupid, but he was in a rush. 331 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,890 He left blood. 332 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:42,030 Now, it's just a trace, 333 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:44,260 but that's all I need. - Great. 334 00:14:44,270 --> 00:14:45,700 I'll call Barba. 335 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:50,370 - A young man like yourself working at SVU. 336 00:14:50,370 --> 00:14:51,900 That has to be depressing. 337 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:55,010 - You work in a morgue. - I find peace in that. 338 00:14:55,010 --> 00:14:56,600 I bring closure to people. 339 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:58,740 - Yeah, when you're not killing them. 340 00:14:58,750 --> 00:15:01,390 - Death, in its way, is the ultimate closure. 341 00:15:01,390 --> 00:15:04,010 - Is that a confession? 342 00:15:04,020 --> 00:15:05,920 - Thanks. 343 00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:10,660 Sure you don't want something more substantial? 344 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:12,130 - Mm, yes, I'm sure. 345 00:15:13,730 --> 00:15:15,370 Do you people think about what you eat? 346 00:15:15,370 --> 00:15:17,530 - Nope. - You should. 347 00:15:17,530 --> 00:15:19,030 All that cholesterol... 348 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,810 I could tell you both right now what your livers 349 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,830 are going to look like when they're eventually on the slab. 350 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,780 - You know what? Don't. 351 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:30,680 - I don't mean to be a nuisance, but may I use the facilities? 352 00:15:32,510 --> 00:15:34,580 - [scoffs] 353 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:37,650 - [sighs] 354 00:15:37,650 --> 00:15:40,110 - Whoa. Hey, it's still occupied. 355 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Hey, look, it's my uncle. 356 00:15:41,490 --> 00:15:44,600 I'll see if I can hurry him along, okay? 357 00:15:45,630 --> 00:15:48,500 - Well, This is unfortunate. 358 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:52,170 They think I killed that woman and cut her up. 359 00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:55,470 I don't understand why. 360 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:59,270 Of course, I do understand. It's still offensive. 361 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,780 So are they. 362 00:16:00,780 --> 00:16:02,850 [sighs] 363 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:06,680 Quiet, Doctor, quiet. 364 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Good man. 365 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,910 [toilet flushes] 366 00:16:12,850 --> 00:16:15,250 - Hey, Doc, come on, we got to go. 367 00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:17,030 - Oh. 368 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:20,030 Could I trouble you for my phone? 369 00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:22,370 I need to call my lawyer. 370 00:16:22,370 --> 00:16:25,670 - Mr. Barba? - Uh-huh? 371 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:27,500 [scoffs] 372 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:30,160 Rita... 373 00:16:30,170 --> 00:16:32,330 you have one hell of a client. 374 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:33,370 Kills a pregnant witness 375 00:16:33,380 --> 00:16:35,210 and tries to cross the border in a dress. 376 00:16:35,210 --> 00:16:36,770 - Dr. Rudnick was out on bond. 377 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:39,050 He was simply taking in the sights of Buffalo. 378 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,280 - Uh-huh. 379 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,210 We have a DNA match from Rachel Groves' hair 380 00:16:44,220 --> 00:16:47,890 and blood on the kitchen floor of an apartment that he leased. 381 00:16:47,890 --> 00:16:50,730 - He's an ME. He autopsied her body. 382 00:16:50,730 --> 00:16:52,860 It could be cross-contamination. 383 00:16:52,860 --> 00:16:54,820 - Well, he didn't autopsy Susie Frain, 384 00:16:54,830 --> 00:16:56,400 and we found her blood in his car. 385 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,000 - They were old friends. 386 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,500 He gave her a ride. 387 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,160 She bled from a paper cut. 388 00:17:01,170 --> 00:17:03,170 Both those cases were circumstantial, 389 00:17:03,170 --> 00:17:06,670 and don't get me started on a 13-year-old body in a wall. 390 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,840 - So why are you here, Rita? 391 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,510 - You have an ME accused of being a serial killer. 392 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:15,980 The last thing your bosses want is a long, drawn-out trial. 393 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:19,360 And these headlines... How are your migraines? 394 00:17:26,190 --> 00:17:27,660 - Your solution is? 395 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:31,330 - Dr. Rudnick pleads to one count of tampering with evidence 396 00:17:31,330 --> 00:17:34,660 and one count of unlawful disposal of a body. 397 00:17:34,670 --> 00:17:38,440 This goes away as quietly as possible. 398 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,000 - Misdemeanors? 399 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:43,680 He killed three women. 400 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,310 I can offer manslaughter, 401 00:17:45,310 --> 00:17:46,570 20 years on each, served concurrently. 402 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:48,140 - A public defender can get as much. 403 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:50,350 He is paying for more than that. 404 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:54,190 - I hope there's enough money in the world, Rita. 405 00:17:54,190 --> 00:17:57,290 I really do. 406 00:17:57,290 --> 00:18:00,090 - You better hope you don't get a conviction, 407 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:01,660 because if you do, 408 00:18:01,660 --> 00:18:04,330 every case Dr. Rudnick touched will be subject to an appeal, 409 00:18:04,330 --> 00:18:06,330 starting with Greg Yates. 410 00:18:11,470 --> 00:18:14,170 - I was so worried... 411 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:17,880 about what might happen to Susie. 412 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,320 She was always so trusting. 413 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,690 She never saw the dark side of people. 414 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:24,360 - Like Dr. Rudnick. 415 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,930 What did she say to you when you last spoke? 416 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:36,670 - She firmly believed that if she asked him, 417 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:40,070 he would work to set me free in exchange for the photo. 418 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:42,910 I knew she was walking into the lion's den, 419 00:18:42,910 --> 00:18:44,210 but she wouldn't listen. 420 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:45,610 I... 421 00:18:45,610 --> 00:18:48,780 I think she wanted me out to be there when she gave birth. 422 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:50,650 - So she told you she was pregnant. 423 00:18:50,650 --> 00:18:53,920 - No, she didn't need to. 424 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,780 I knew. 425 00:18:55,780 --> 00:18:59,280 She had a slightly different scent... 426 00:18:59,290 --> 00:19:01,690 like you do. 427 00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:06,360 How far along are you, Detective? 428 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:14,360 - Ms. Calhoun, are you ready to proceed? 429 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:49,660 - We are, Your Honor. - Mr. Barba. 430 00:19:49,670 --> 00:19:50,830 - Your Honor, in addition 431 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,340 to the two standing charges of murder one, 432 00:19:52,340 --> 00:19:55,500 the defendant is now charged with the murder of Susie Frain. 433 00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:57,940 - Dr. Rudnick, how do you plead? 434 00:19:57,950 --> 00:19:59,750 - I apologize for being late, Your Honor. 435 00:19:59,750 --> 00:20:01,850 John Buchanan for the defense. 436 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:03,320 My client pleads not guilty. 437 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,055 - I know who you are, Counselor, 438 00:20:05,056 --> 00:20:07,380 but I'm not a fan of courtroom theatrics. 439 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:09,490 What's going on here, Ms. Calhoun? 440 00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:13,250 - I just need a moment to confer with my client. 441 00:20:13,260 --> 00:20:15,220 - So he is still your client. 442 00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:17,290 - He is, Your Honor. Dr. Rudnick has retained us both. 443 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:18,500 - You have? 444 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:20,500 - Rita, the state saw fit to double down. 445 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:22,300 I thought it prudent to do the same. 446 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:24,100 Now, you both have my complete confidence. 447 00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:26,010 - May we proceed? 448 00:20:26,010 --> 00:20:27,545 People on bail. - Remand. 449 00:20:27,546 --> 00:20:29,800 While out on bail, the defendant murdered 450 00:20:29,810 --> 00:20:32,310 and dismembered a prosecution witness. 451 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:33,640 - Another wild accusation. 452 00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:36,290 - More to the point, he is free to travel within the state. 453 00:20:36,290 --> 00:20:38,520 He has violated no court order. 454 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,420 - That is absolutely correct. - Enough, Doctor. 455 00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:44,150 Your bail was a privilege that has just been revoked. 456 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,000 You are remanded to Rikers. 457 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,300 - In that case, I have a motion to separate these three charges. 458 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:50,630 - As do I. 459 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:53,360 - Coordinate, and I'll let the presiding judge 460 00:20:53,370 --> 00:20:54,610 know what he's in for. 461 00:20:54,610 --> 00:20:56,300 Good day. [gavel bangs] 462 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,480 - Hey. 463 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,650 Missed you in court. 464 00:21:03,650 --> 00:21:06,480 - Yeah. - You look green. 465 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,310 Have a ginger ale. 466 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,150 [can rattles] 467 00:21:10,150 --> 00:21:12,010 - I'm good. 468 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:13,780 [can opens] 469 00:21:13,790 --> 00:21:15,760 - So have you told anybody yet? 470 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,530 - Nope. 471 00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:30,410 I just found out. 472 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:35,980 And not that it's any of your business, 473 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:37,680 but, you know, it's not Nick's, so... 474 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,980 - Okay. 475 00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:41,480 What are you going to do? 476 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,810 - I'm not going to do anything. 477 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:46,660 - Well, you might want to tell the sarge. 478 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:56,000 - Whiskey. Does that mean it's bad news? 479 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,700 - [sighs] Rudnick's dream team just got their first win. 480 00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,990 The judge granted their motion 481 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,400 to separate out the three charges. 482 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,900 - How? There's a clear pattern. 483 00:22:03,910 --> 00:22:05,710 - [sighs] Not really. 484 00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:08,180 The murders are spread out over 13 years, 485 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:10,210 and the motives are arguably different. 486 00:22:10,210 --> 00:22:11,510 Lena was his fiancée. 487 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:13,440 Susie was blackmailing him, 488 00:22:13,450 --> 00:22:15,890 and Rachel... she was just easy pickings, crime of opportunity. 489 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:17,450 - Okay, I get it. So the judge thought 490 00:22:17,450 --> 00:22:18,880 that linking the three together would be 491 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:21,990 more prejudicial than probative. - Prejudicial than probative. 492 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:23,760 - Okay. 493 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,100 So what do you need from me? 494 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:28,560 - A thigh, to establish cause of death. 495 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,260 Susie Frain is our strongest case. 496 00:22:30,270 --> 00:22:33,840 - The thigh is gone, but you don't need it. 497 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,500 He cut her up, Barba. 498 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:38,230 I don't care how good those lawyers think they are. 499 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,410 When the jury sees what he did to that woman... 500 00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:43,380 he's done. 501 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,220 - [sighs] 502 00:22:50,220 --> 00:22:52,120 - Were you able to identify the victim? 503 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,480 - Yes. In another bag we opened, 504 00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:58,360 we found the decapitated head of Susie Frain. 505 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,560 It was... 506 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,490 one of the most gruesome crime scenes 507 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:03,800 that I've ever witnessed. 508 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,430 - Objection. 509 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:08,160 These injuries occurred after Ms. Frain's death. 510 00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:10,340 They have no bearing on the murder charge 511 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:12,610 and serve only to prejudice this jury. 512 00:23:12,610 --> 00:23:14,180 - Overruled. 513 00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:15,745 I'll allow up to a point, 514 00:23:15,746 --> 00:23:17,340 and I want to remind the jury 515 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:19,180 that you're here to determine the facts of the murder 516 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:22,810 and not what happened to the body post-mortem. 517 00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:26,660 - Sergeant Benson, the body on the beach was Susie Frain? 518 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:28,560 - Yes, without a doubt. 519 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,630 DNA links all the pieces. 520 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:32,600 - Nothing further. 521 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:41,160 - Good morning, Sergeant. 522 00:23:41,170 --> 00:23:43,010 When you first met Ms. Frain, 523 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:45,780 it was in connection with another murder case, correct? 524 00:23:45,780 --> 00:23:47,170 - It was. 525 00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:49,410 - The brutal kidnapping, rape, and murder 526 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:54,070 of a Chicago PD employee by Ms. Frain's fiancée, Greg Yates. 527 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,310 - Yes. 528 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,090 - Did Ms. Frain 529 00:23:57,090 --> 00:24:00,590 maintain his innocence even after Dr. Yates' conviction? 530 00:24:00,590 --> 00:24:02,125 - Objection. Relevance. 531 00:24:02,126 --> 00:24:04,020 - Your Honor, I intend to show a direct line 532 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:08,800 between Ms. Frain's pathological desire to clear her fiancée 533 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,300 and the events that led to her death. 534 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,200 - I'll allow. 535 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,800 - Did Ms. Frain ever become aware that Dr. Carl Rudnick 536 00:24:16,810 --> 00:24:19,740 was the Deputy Chief ME for Manhattan 537 00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:23,900 who had supervised the autopsies of Dr. Yates' victims? 538 00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:25,470 - Yes, and I know that it's your job 539 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,040 to try to make a connection between the two... 540 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:30,090 - Well, so let me do my job. 541 00:24:30,090 --> 00:24:32,050 And after that, 542 00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:35,720 did you and ADA Barba 543 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,550 helpfully arrange for a conjugal visit 544 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,960 between Ms. Frain and Dr. Yates? 545 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,720 - We did. 546 00:24:42,730 --> 00:24:46,330 - Once reunited, did they both spontaneously accuse Dr. Rudnick 547 00:24:46,340 --> 00:24:47,570 of a series of crimes? 548 00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:48,870 - Yes, but there were also 549 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:50,300 two other women who had been murdered. 550 00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:54,340 - So is it possible that they were colluding 551 00:24:54,340 --> 00:24:58,210 to incriminate Dr. Rudnick in hopes of discrediting him 552 00:24:58,210 --> 00:25:01,980 and thus bolstering Yates' chance for an appeal. 553 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:03,910 - Objection. Speculation. 554 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,050 - Is it? 555 00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:08,350 Withdrawn. 556 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,560 Nothing further. 557 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,860 Thank you, Sergeant. 558 00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:22,140 - Susie Frain was cooperating 559 00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:24,310 with a separate investigation into Dr. Rudnick. 560 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:25,740 - Objection, Your Honor. 561 00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:27,400 - This line goes directly to motive. 562 00:25:27,410 --> 00:25:30,480 - I'll allow but only in that context. 563 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,215 - In what way was Ms. Frain cooperating? 564 00:25:32,216 --> 00:25:33,970 - She was searching for photos 565 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:36,610 which we believed would provide evidence against Dr. Rudnick, 566 00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:37,750 but she was murdered 567 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:39,480 before she had the chance to deliver them to us. 568 00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:43,060 - Did you find these photos in her home? 569 00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:45,630 - No, but as the crime-scene pictures show... 570 00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:48,030 - People's exhibit 47A, 47B, Your Honor. 571 00:25:48,030 --> 00:25:50,270 - Objection. This is prejudicial. 572 00:25:50,270 --> 00:25:51,540 - It's a crime scene. 573 00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:54,300 - Agreed. Overruled. 574 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:57,800 - So you can see her ransacked memento boxes, 575 00:25:57,810 --> 00:26:00,140 and we also later obtained security footage 576 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:01,640 from her mini-storage facility. 577 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,970 - People's exhibit 48A. 578 00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:04,780 - Where you can see the victim 579 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:08,150 had retrieved those same boxes the day before she was murdered, 580 00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:09,950 so we believe whoever killed her 581 00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:11,550 took the incriminating photos with them. 582 00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:13,350 - Objection. Pure speculation. 583 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,530 - Sustained. Jury will disregard. 584 00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:20,820 - Nothing further. 585 00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:22,200 - You just said that Ms. Frain 586 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,830 had agreed to search for these photos. 587 00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:26,290 Is there any reason to think that she found them? 588 00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,100 - Sergeant Benson and I were informed of that fact 589 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,330 by Dr. Yates. 590 00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:31,010 - Dr. Yates. 591 00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:33,980 You mean the convicted murderer? 592 00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:38,510 I see from the prison logs that you visited Dr. Yates 593 00:26:38,510 --> 00:26:40,340 a half a dozen times in the last few weeks. 594 00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:43,220 - I was hoping he could help me with a number of unsolved cases. 595 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:45,460 - Two of those visits you undertook on your own. 596 00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:49,180 Is that common practice for a female NYPD detective? 597 00:26:50,990 --> 00:26:52,620 - He was more open to me that way. 598 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:55,000 - So he confided in you. 599 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,030 Did he also enlist you to help him get a conjugal visit 600 00:26:59,030 --> 00:27:00,830 with Ms. Frain? 601 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,040 - Sure. - Given that, it seems fair 602 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,610 to say that you had a relationship with Mr. Yates. 603 00:27:06,610 --> 00:27:08,780 - Not in the way you mean. - Oh, how do I mean it? 604 00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:10,080 - Objection. 605 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,850 - I'll rephrase. 606 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:13,380 Did anyone in your squad 607 00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:16,010 ever think that Mr. Yates was toying with you, 608 00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:18,550 attempting to implicate Dr. Rudnick 609 00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:21,720 in an effort to exonerate himself? 610 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,520 - All informants have an agenda. 611 00:27:25,530 --> 00:27:28,830 Good detectives... 612 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:30,770 evaluate their credibility. 613 00:27:30,770 --> 00:27:33,170 - Your answer is yes, then? 614 00:27:33,170 --> 00:27:34,570 - Objection. 615 00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:36,670 - Withdrawn. 616 00:27:36,670 --> 00:27:39,170 I'll quit while I'm ahead. 617 00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:46,940 - Hey, you okay? 618 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:49,920 - Yeah, I thought it was Rudnick on trial, not Yates or me. 619 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,290 - A lot of pressure up there. 620 00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:54,890 - It is. 621 00:27:54,890 --> 00:27:57,230 Also, um... 622 00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:59,860 I'm pregnant. 623 00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:01,960 - Wow. 624 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,730 - Not Nick's. 625 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:06,760 - Okay. 626 00:28:06,770 --> 00:28:08,770 Thanks for telling me. 627 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:11,140 - And I know with the squad being shorthanded, 628 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:12,640 it's not the best time for me, 629 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,900 but I want to promise you 630 00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:16,610 this is not going to affect my ability to do my job. 631 00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:19,010 - Actually, it is, Amanda, you know. 632 00:28:19,010 --> 00:28:20,670 - Yeah, of course, but I just meant... 633 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,910 - Look, I know you're going to fight me on this, 634 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,590 but as soon as the Department hears, 635 00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:26,690 they're going to put you on restricted duty. 636 00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:30,190 - Can we wait to tell them? 637 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:33,120 I just want to work until the last minute. 638 00:28:33,130 --> 00:28:36,260 - I know what a hard worker you are. 639 00:28:36,260 --> 00:28:39,760 It's a really good thing, 'cause... 640 00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:42,970 because being a single mom is, uh... 641 00:28:42,970 --> 00:28:45,730 it's not easy. 642 00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:47,230 - Well, I may not be on my own. 643 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,300 My mom might actually move up to New York. 644 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:51,910 - Good, good. 645 00:28:51,910 --> 00:28:53,570 - Yeah. 646 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:57,980 - Well, I want you to know I'm... I'm really happy for you. 647 00:28:57,990 --> 00:29:00,290 And, you know, if you want 648 00:29:00,290 --> 00:29:05,030 or need to talk about anything... 649 00:29:05,030 --> 00:29:06,760 I'm here. 650 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,930 - Okay. 651 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:20,570 She bled out. 652 00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:22,010 - Yet you were unable to determine 653 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:23,950 where the initial wound was made, Dr. Warner? 654 00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:24,950 - Correct. 655 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:26,450 I believe it was in the piece 656 00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:29,520 of Susie Frain's thigh that remains missing. 657 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,290 - What made you come to that conclusion? 658 00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:34,120 - The lack of blood in her other body parts. 659 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,420 - And how many different body parts 660 00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:37,920 were you able to examine? 661 00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:38,930 - Objection. 662 00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:40,500 The prosecution keeps trying 663 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:43,530 to poison this jury with what happened to the victim's body. 664 00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:47,230 - Overruled. But let's move it along, Mr. Barba. 665 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040 - Despite being unable to locate the initial wound, 666 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,540 what did you list as manner of death? 667 00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:52,870 - Homicide. 668 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:55,700 No one ends up cut into pieces like this 669 00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:58,410 after an accidental or natural death. 670 00:29:58,410 --> 00:30:00,740 - Nothing further. 671 00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:03,080 - Dr. Warner... 672 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,810 both Ms. Frain's and my client's blood 673 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:09,680 were found in Ms. Frain's house. 674 00:30:09,690 --> 00:30:12,190 Isn't that right? - Yes. 675 00:30:12,190 --> 00:30:15,360 - Defense exhibit 13. 676 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,690 My client had defensive wounds on his hand and forearms 677 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:21,530 when you examined him. 678 00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:23,240 - Yes, he did. 679 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,810 However, I can't tell you how he sustained those injuries. 680 00:30:25,810 --> 00:30:28,310 - Just like you can't tell us how Ms. Frain 681 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:29,980 sustained her fatal injury. 682 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:32,580 - Dr. Rudnick walked out of that house. 683 00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:34,540 Susie Frain did not. 684 00:30:34,550 --> 00:30:37,920 - And yet your own autopsy can't determine how she was killed. 685 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:43,880 Dr. Rudnick was hired as your supervisor two years ago. 686 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,530 Did you apply for that position? 687 00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:48,800 - Yes, but that's not... - Withdrawn. 688 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,330 Nothing further. 689 00:30:51,330 --> 00:30:53,730 - Redirect, Your Honor. 690 00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:56,470 In your opinion, could Dr. Rudnick's wounds 691 00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:59,170 have been self-inflicted after he killed Ms. Frain? 692 00:30:59,170 --> 00:31:01,000 - Yes, absolutely. 693 00:31:01,010 --> 00:31:04,380 - Thank you. Prosecution rests. 694 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:07,780 - The defense calls Dr. Carl Rudnick. 695 00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:18,450 Dr. Rudnick, tell the jury in your own words 696 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:21,965 what happened the night you went to Ms. Frain's apartment. 697 00:31:21,966 --> 00:31:24,460 - She attacked me with a kitchen knife. 698 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:26,170 There was a struggle. 699 00:31:26,170 --> 00:31:30,140 I killed her accidently in self-defense. 700 00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:36,370 Dr. Yates had brainwashed Susie 701 00:31:36,380 --> 00:31:38,580 into believing I'd been setting him up. 702 00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:41,990 She accused me of tampering with the autopsies of his victims, 703 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:44,010 which is patently absurd. 704 00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:46,860 He'd operated in several disparate states. 705 00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:49,060 And I made the impertinent mistake of laughing. 706 00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:51,060 - And what did she do? 707 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:52,860 - She grabbed a knife and attacked me. 708 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:57,390 I defended myself, resulting in these cuts on my hand and arms. 709 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,900 - Could you step down 710 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:03,040 and demonstrate how you received those wounds, Dr. Rudnick? 711 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,270 - Objection. Prejudicial. 712 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,130 - What? How will the jury know 713 00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:08,370 what really happened if I can't demonstrate? 714 00:32:08,380 --> 00:32:09,950 - Your Honor, I think a demonstration 715 00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:11,410 could be informative. 716 00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:13,140 - I'll allow it, but don't milk it. 717 00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:38,370 - Is this how she held it? 718 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:40,400 - Yes. She pulled the knife from the butcher block 719 00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:41,580 and swung it down at me. 720 00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:43,240 - Like this? 721 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,410 - Yes, I fended her off for a moment. 722 00:32:45,410 --> 00:32:46,910 - But she kept coming. 723 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920 - Unfortunately, I pushed her wrist on the downward swing. 724 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,420 She put her body weight into the thrust, 725 00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:56,220 and momentum drove the knife 726 00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:58,720 into her left thigh. 727 00:32:58,730 --> 00:33:02,300 [breathing shakily] 728 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,870 - Doctor... 729 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:07,600 do you need a moment? 730 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,300 - No. 731 00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,470 I'm fine. 732 00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:13,370 Thank you. 733 00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:16,680 Thank you. 734 00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:23,620 [sighs] 735 00:33:23,620 --> 00:33:26,150 - What happened next? 736 00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:27,510 - Well, when I saw the blood, 737 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,950 I knew it had hit the femoral artery. 738 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,760 I was in shock, uh, bleeding. 739 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,890 I momentarily lost consciousness, 740 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,800 and when I came to, it was too late to save her. 741 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,870 - And then what happened? 742 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:42,040 - I stitched my cuts, 743 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,040 because I was afraid to go to the hospital. 744 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,610 - Why was that? 745 00:33:45,610 --> 00:33:48,210 - I felt if I went in bleeding, 746 00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:50,210 no one would believe a word I had to say. 747 00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:53,510 - How would you describe your state of mind? 748 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,320 - I was panicking. 749 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,190 That's why I tried to get rid of Susie's body. 750 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:58,890 I'm not proud of that, 751 00:33:58,890 --> 00:34:02,125 but by then, I felt the whole system had turned against me. 752 00:34:02,126 --> 00:34:04,950 It was fight or flight, and I chose to flee. 753 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,930 - And when you fled, you disguised yourself as a woman. 754 00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:10,770 - Everyone was looking for Carl Rudnick. 755 00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:12,970 No one was looking for Carla. 756 00:34:12,970 --> 00:34:15,670 It seemed to be a good idea at the time. 757 00:34:15,670 --> 00:34:19,070 - Thank you, Doctor. 758 00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:20,900 - Mr. Barba. 759 00:34:20,910 --> 00:34:23,280 - Dr. Rudnick, are you the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner 760 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,580 for Manhattan? 761 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:27,720 - I was. I believe I'm on leave now. 762 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,850 - As such, you would know exactly how to mimic 763 00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:31,850 defensive wounds, wouldn't you? 764 00:34:31,850 --> 00:34:33,080 - Are you implying that... 765 00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:36,220 - Yes or no. - Yes. 766 00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:40,590 - And you would know how to cut up and dispose of a body. 767 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,565 - An unfortunate area of expertise 768 00:34:42,566 --> 00:34:45,160 for someone accused of murder, but it is mine. 769 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,735 - Did you use a reciprocating saw 770 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:48,230 and bolt cutter to do so? 771 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:51,240 People's Exhibit 52... 772 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:54,610 A receipt for a saw and bolt cutter... 773 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080 From Home Depot... 774 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,950 paid with Carl Rudnick's American Express card at 11:50 775 00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:07,280 on the night Susie Frain was murdered. 776 00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:08,760 - Yes, luckily, I was able to make it there 777 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,630 before closing time. - Ha. 778 00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:12,930 As you said, you knew exactly what you were doing, 779 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:14,900 so it is no accident that the one part 780 00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:16,600 of Susie Frain's body, 781 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,900 the piece that could confirm or refute your story, 782 00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,860 her left thigh, is the part that's missing. 783 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:24,900 - Well, you're not suggesting I can control the vagaries 784 00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:26,840 of the tides, are you? 785 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,940 It is my most fervent wish that Susie's limb be found, 786 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:31,910 because it would prove what I'm saying. 787 00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:34,010 I mean, the angle of the blade's entry 788 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,090 would show her wound was self-inflicted. 789 00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:37,310 - Self-inflicted? 790 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,620 Did she dismember herself too? 791 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:41,720 - No, obviously I did that. 792 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:44,950 I didn't know of any other way to get her out of there. 793 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,530 - That was brutal. 794 00:35:50,530 --> 00:35:52,230 - You got some good shots in towards the end of your cross. 795 00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:55,560 - Did I? Two hours... Every time I lunged, he parried. 796 00:35:55,570 --> 00:35:57,310 The longer he was up there, the more the jury liked him. 797 00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:58,610 - How is that possible? 798 00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:00,110 - I don't know... I mean, he's peculiar, 799 00:36:00,110 --> 00:36:01,610 but there's something interesting about him. 800 00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:02,980 It's weird, but at the end of our road trip, 801 00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:04,550 I kind of missed the guy. - You kind of miss... 802 00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:05,810 You missed him? - Yeah. 803 00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:07,040 - I thought you two talked too much. 804 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:08,580 - Yeah, he does talk. 805 00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:10,210 I mean, he went into the bathroom. 806 00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:11,890 He was alone in the stall. He thought nobody was listening, 807 00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,560 and he kept the conversation going alone. 808 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,030 - You know what? He talks during his autopsies too. 809 00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:16,220 He records everything. 810 00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:17,580 I don't know... We might go through them, 811 00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:19,820 see if he let something slip. 812 00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:21,500 They're city property, public records. 813 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:25,400 - It's worth a shot. Make a night of it, Rollins? 814 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,100 - Caucasian female, late 20s, red hair. 815 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:33,700 Like so many redheads, less susceptible to anesthesia. 816 00:36:35,580 --> 00:36:39,580 She felt everything that was being done to her. 817 00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:41,240 - I found out why he likes redheads. 818 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:42,920 That's all I got. - Shh. 819 00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:48,220 I think I got something. 820 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:49,520 - From an autopsy? 821 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,450 - No, video, and it's not from the morgue. 822 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,570 I'm contacting my lawyer. 823 00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:11,280 I'd like to exercise that right. 824 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,480 - Feel free. 825 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,190 We will wait to continue questioning you 826 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:17,280 until a lawyer arrives. 827 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,420 [footsteps departing, door closes] 828 00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:26,420 - They can't pin these on you. 829 00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:31,420 Rachel was a crack whore. 830 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040 And with the green nail polish 831 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,110 and the proximity to Yates' victims... 832 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:42,780 That's far too much reasonable doubt. 833 00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:45,010 And Lena, 834 00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:47,840 nobody will buy Yates' word. 835 00:37:47,850 --> 00:37:50,350 And my only risk there is Susie. 836 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:51,680 She's dumb as a post, 837 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,860 but she still can put two and two together. 838 00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:57,090 And if she does... 839 00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:02,930 I suppose I'll have to kill her... 840 00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:04,600 just like the others. 841 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:10,660 [sighs] Kill them all, Carl... 842 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:15,900 Whatever it takes. 843 00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:17,880 [door opens] 844 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,420 Rita, it's very good of you to come on such short notice. 845 00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:24,290 - Of course, Carl, but I'm afraid I have some bad news. 846 00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:27,490 - This is clearly inadmissible, Your Honor. 847 00:38:27,490 --> 00:38:30,090 - I understand why you'd like to think that. 848 00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:33,590 Walk me through the provenance and chain of evidence. 849 00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:35,420 How did this fall into your hands? 850 00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:37,270 - We asked Dr. Rudnick to come in for an interview, 851 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:39,200 and he gave us permission to record it. 852 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,140 - Your Honor, Dr. Rudnick had asked for counsel. 853 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:42,610 - And when he did, we immediately stopped 854 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,830 questioning him and left the room. 855 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,940 - Yes, but you left the camera on. 856 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:47,340 - He knew that he was being recorded. 857 00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:48,770 We weren't interrogating him. 858 00:38:48,780 --> 00:38:50,910 This was a spontaneous admission. 859 00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:52,110 Your client talks to himself. 860 00:38:52,110 --> 00:38:54,740 - Not only is this inadmissible under Miranda, 861 00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:56,550 but it's also Brady material 862 00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:58,110 that should have been made available to us. 863 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,420 - It was. A copy of this video 864 00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:01,590 has been in your possession since day one. 865 00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:03,590 You must have stopped watching when we stopped questioning. 866 00:39:03,590 --> 00:39:04,680 - He's right, Mr. Buchanan. 867 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:06,650 If you turned this off, it's on you. 868 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:07,890 This is admissible. 869 00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:09,600 - I was simply thinking out loud. 870 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,700 - Carl. 871 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,770 - We'll let the jury determine that. 872 00:39:13,770 --> 00:39:16,440 - You had the recording for the entirety of my ordeal, 873 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,110 and you didn't know it? - Carl. 874 00:39:20,110 --> 00:39:22,110 - Your Honor, I immediately move for new counsel 875 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:24,180 on the basis of incompetent defense. 876 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:25,580 - [chuckles] That's your right. 877 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:27,080 I should caution you, though... 878 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,140 This material is admissible no matter who defends you. 879 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:40,590 Dr. Rudnick, I understand you'd like to change your plea. 880 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,260 - Yes, Your Honor. 881 00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:46,260 - On the charge of murder in the first degree of Susie Frain, 882 00:39:46,270 --> 00:39:47,570 how do you plead? 883 00:39:47,570 --> 00:39:49,770 - Guilty as charged. 884 00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:51,160 [audience murmuring] 885 00:39:51,170 --> 00:39:52,430 - And to the outstanding charge 886 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,910 of murder in the first degree of Rachel Groves? 887 00:39:56,910 --> 00:39:59,510 - I'm afraid I'm guilty on that one as well. 888 00:39:59,510 --> 00:40:02,240 - Your Honor, at this time, 889 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:04,590 the prosecution would like to withdraw its charge 890 00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:06,920 of murder in the first degree of Lena Grunwald. 891 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,920 - All right, Counselors, thank you for your time. 892 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,520 And now that justice has been served, 893 00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:12,230 I declare this court adjourned. 894 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:14,560 [gavel bangs] 895 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,040 - Wait. He gets away with Lena's murder. 896 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,540 - Well, he'll still do 25 to life 897 00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:25,210 for the other two charges. 898 00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:27,510 Maybe you two will be roommates one day. 899 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:29,040 [chuckles] 900 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,340 - He did it, you know. 901 00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:34,820 Lena... he strangled her to death. 902 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:38,120 - Her skull was also fractured. 903 00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:42,520 - Strangulation was the cause of death. 904 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,820 Skull fracture was post-mortem. 905 00:40:46,690 --> 00:40:49,190 - You sound pretty sure about that. 906 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,870 - I'm just piecing it together, 907 00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:54,200 but if I had to guess... 908 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,700 Lena was his first time. 909 00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:58,870 Carl screwed up, 910 00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:01,200 and he had to call someone with more experience 911 00:41:01,210 --> 00:41:04,710 to help him finish. 912 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,050 - And how did this person help? 913 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:11,350 - He probably advised Carl 914 00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:14,350 to keep Lena alive 915 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,860 as long as possible. 916 00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:21,260 Such a waste to have her die so quickly. 917 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,400 - Why are you telling me this now? 918 00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:38,180 - Because I believe when one life ends, 919 00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:39,780 another begins. 920 00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:42,850 You are bringing life into this world 921 00:41:42,850 --> 00:41:46,420 just as I lost my wife and my child. 922 00:41:47,850 --> 00:41:50,020 I feel a connection to you. 923 00:41:52,690 --> 00:41:54,190 You'll be back. 924 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,770 And I will be here. 925 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,870 [wolf howls]