1 00:00:05,338 --> 00:00:05,547 . 2 00:00:05,547 --> 00:00:07,007 - In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:09,175 sexually based offenses 4 00:00:09,259 --> 00:00:11,302 are considered especially heinous. 5 00:00:11,386 --> 00:00:13,847 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 6 00:00:13,972 --> 00:00:15,640 who investigate these vicious felonies 7 00:00:15,724 --> 00:00:17,267 are members of an elite squad 8 00:00:17,392 --> 00:00:19,060 known as the Special Victims Unit. 9 00:00:19,185 --> 00:00:20,895 These are their stories. 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,483 [indistinct chatter] 11 00:00:31,156 --> 00:00:32,907 - I am so sorry. 12 00:00:32,991 --> 00:00:34,451 - Take it easy. You made it, you made it. 13 00:00:34,492 --> 00:00:37,454 Come here. Sit down. 14 00:00:37,537 --> 00:00:39,748 Excuse me, can I get a glass of wine here? 15 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:41,291 - Uh, did you hear from your mother? 16 00:00:41,374 --> 00:00:43,376 - Yeah, the last report from Staten Island 17 00:00:43,418 --> 00:00:44,919 is that the kids are making popcorn, 18 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:46,379 they're watching movies 19 00:00:46,504 --> 00:00:47,630 that they probably shouldn't be watching, 20 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:49,341 but everybody's happy. 21 00:00:49,424 --> 00:00:51,176 - Thank you. - Uh... 22 00:00:51,259 --> 00:00:52,510 Liv keep you late, or...? 23 00:00:52,552 --> 00:00:53,970 - No, she had to kick me out. 24 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:57,974 I--I just-- I lost track of time. 25 00:00:58,099 --> 00:00:59,768 I'm really sorry. - No, no, no. 26 00:00:59,851 --> 00:01:01,728 Relax, relax. Look. 27 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:03,021 Sounds to me like you're finally back 28 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,814 in a job that makes you happy. 29 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:07,108 - I am. 30 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:09,152 Happy. 31 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:10,487 It's just weird. 32 00:01:10,612 --> 00:01:11,905 - Why is that weird? - I don't know. 33 00:01:11,946 --> 00:01:14,532 I'm just-- I guess I'm just used to 34 00:01:14,657 --> 00:01:18,578 hopping around different jobs, and this feels... 35 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:20,580 permanent. 36 00:01:20,663 --> 00:01:21,831 - Enjoy it. 37 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:22,874 Be bored. 38 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,459 - Mm. - Just for a minute. 39 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:25,627 Here. 40 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:29,297 Happy second anniversary. 41 00:01:29,339 --> 00:01:30,382 - Yes. 42 00:01:30,465 --> 00:01:31,383 [glasses clink] 43 00:01:33,551 --> 00:01:34,636 I don't think that's how it goes. 44 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:35,720 - [chuckles] 45 00:01:37,764 --> 00:01:40,308 - Uh, silence is almost eerie. 46 00:01:40,392 --> 00:01:41,685 - Hear me complaining? 47 00:01:41,768 --> 00:01:43,812 Hey, I'm gonna take a shower. 48 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:45,188 Don't you go anywhere. 49 00:01:45,271 --> 00:01:46,231 - Mm. 50 00:01:50,443 --> 00:01:52,904 [glass crunches] 51 00:01:52,987 --> 00:01:55,907 [tense music] 52 00:01:55,990 --> 00:01:57,534 ♪ ♪ 53 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:59,911 Sonny? 54 00:02:03,623 --> 00:02:04,582 Sonny? 55 00:02:04,666 --> 00:02:11,631 ♪ ♪ 56 00:02:25,478 --> 00:02:26,354 Drop it. 57 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:27,564 - Lower the gun. 58 00:02:27,647 --> 00:02:29,024 - Drop it or I'll shoot. 59 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:32,610 - Shoot and Counselor Carisi dies, Sergeant Rollins. 60 00:02:32,694 --> 00:02:34,654 - It's okay, it's okay. 61 00:02:34,738 --> 00:02:36,865 - Put it on the ground. Kick it to me. 62 00:02:36,948 --> 00:02:37,699 - There's still time to get out of this. 63 00:02:37,741 --> 00:02:40,118 - Do it! 64 00:02:40,201 --> 00:02:47,208 ♪ ♪ 65 00:02:48,793 --> 00:02:50,003 I said to me! 66 00:02:50,086 --> 00:02:51,379 - Just forget about the gun. 67 00:02:51,463 --> 00:02:53,214 Just--just tell us what you want. 68 00:02:53,256 --> 00:02:54,299 - Back up. 69 00:02:57,802 --> 00:02:59,220 - All right. 70 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:03,391 - He walks over slow. 71 00:03:03,558 --> 00:03:04,642 You tie him up. 72 00:03:04,684 --> 00:03:05,810 - I'm not doing that. 73 00:03:05,894 --> 00:03:07,103 - I'm in control. 74 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:09,022 - Amanda. 75 00:03:12,442 --> 00:03:14,361 - Do it! 76 00:03:14,444 --> 00:03:16,738 Unravel it. 77 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:17,864 - No. 78 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:20,116 - Unravel it! 79 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,117 [grunts] 80 00:03:21,242 --> 00:03:28,083 ♪ ♪ 81 00:03:28,124 --> 00:03:29,292 - [groans] 82 00:03:29,334 --> 00:03:30,168 - Don't move. 83 00:03:30,251 --> 00:03:32,003 [gunshot] 84 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:35,715 - Are you okay? - I'm okay, I'm okay. 85 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,133 Go, go. Go. 86 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:44,099 ♪ ♪ 87 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:47,102 - [panting] 88 00:03:57,862 --> 00:04:00,699 [dramatic music] 89 00:04:00,782 --> 00:04:07,789 ♪ ♪ 90 00:04:47,996 --> 00:04:48,163 . 91 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:49,789 - Amanda, it's funny. - Anything? 92 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:51,708 - Uh, not yet, 93 00:04:51,791 --> 00:04:53,251 but we have every cop in the city on the lookout. 94 00:04:53,335 --> 00:04:55,086 - Okay, just make sure that they have his full description. 95 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:56,796 Um, he was white. 96 00:04:56,838 --> 00:04:59,007 Um, he was young, 20s, probably. 97 00:04:59,049 --> 00:05:00,925 He had medium build. He had brown eyes. 98 00:05:00,967 --> 00:05:02,260 - Okay, Amanda, we got it. 99 00:05:02,344 --> 00:05:03,386 Why don't--why don't you have a seat, honey? 100 00:05:03,470 --> 00:05:04,846 Okay? 101 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:07,682 Look, is there anything at all familiar about him? 102 00:05:07,807 --> 00:05:10,602 Did you--the sound of his voice, a familiar scent? 103 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:11,644 - No, if we know him, we didn't recognize him. 104 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:13,104 - No. 105 00:05:13,229 --> 00:05:14,606 - But he sure as hell knew who we were. 106 00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:16,024 - Yeah, he knew our names. And he knew how to break in. 107 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:17,942 He was waiting here for us, Liv. 108 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:20,362 - Did he say anything that gives us motive, anything? 109 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:21,946 - Oh, he wanted us both dead. 110 00:05:22,030 --> 00:05:23,573 Okay? He didn't need to say it. 111 00:05:23,615 --> 00:05:25,283 - And the way he referred to us, Sergeant, Counselor-- 112 00:05:25,408 --> 00:05:27,535 like, I know that we're looking at a targeted attack, 113 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:29,371 but I think it could be revenge. 114 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:31,831 - I'm sending a protective detail, okay? 115 00:05:31,915 --> 00:05:34,125 To Staten Island for your kids and your parents. 116 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:38,838 And I'm putting you two in a hotel until we know more. 117 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:40,882 - Good. - This could've-- 118 00:05:40,924 --> 00:05:43,134 this could have been really, really bad. 119 00:05:43,218 --> 00:05:45,845 - And it wasn't because you kept your head about you 120 00:05:45,929 --> 00:05:47,430 and you protected yourself. 121 00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:49,265 And you are safe and your children are safe. 122 00:05:49,349 --> 00:05:50,558 We're gonna- - Widen the perimeter. 123 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,936 And I want a patrol car on every block 124 00:05:53,061 --> 00:05:56,356 a mile out until we say otherwise. 125 00:05:58,108 --> 00:06:00,944 Hey, uh, I just wanted to see with my own eyes 126 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:02,112 that you were all right. 127 00:06:02,237 --> 00:06:03,405 - We're fine. Thank you, Chief. 128 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:04,948 - The department is devoting 129 00:06:05,073 --> 00:06:07,409 every available resource to this. 130 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:09,994 We will be meticulous and swift. 131 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:13,206 Um, my personal number. 132 00:06:13,289 --> 00:06:15,500 Call any time. - Appreciate it, Chief. 133 00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:18,336 - Yeah. 134 00:06:20,338 --> 00:06:22,382 [both sigh] 135 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:26,845 - [sighs] - You all right? 136 00:06:26,886 --> 00:06:28,888 - You want the honest answer? 137 00:06:28,972 --> 00:06:30,557 - Me neither. - [sighs] 138 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,017 - When it happens to one of us, it happens to all of us. 139 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:33,476 - Yeah. 140 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,437 - I'm here to support you, whatever you need. 141 00:06:37,647 --> 00:06:41,026 - Well, I want is for you to take the lead on this. 142 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:42,027 And before you answer-- 143 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:43,570 - Done. 144 00:06:43,653 --> 00:06:45,572 - Wow, okay. 145 00:06:45,697 --> 00:06:47,240 Uh, thank you. 146 00:06:47,282 --> 00:06:49,909 - She'll, uh, need to be on modified 147 00:06:49,951 --> 00:06:51,411 while the shooting is being reviewed. 148 00:06:51,536 --> 00:06:52,746 - Of course. 149 00:06:52,829 --> 00:06:54,330 - Give up her gun, 150 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:55,623 which I imagine will go over like a lead balloon. 151 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:58,251 - She-- she understands protocol. 152 00:06:58,335 --> 00:07:01,171 - Still, if you need me to be the bad guy, I'll take the hit. 153 00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:04,090 Tell her I won't listen to reason. 154 00:07:04,215 --> 00:07:05,425 - I appreciate that. 155 00:07:07,385 --> 00:07:09,763 I'll handle it. - Sure. 156 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:14,934 - And, um, I'll get her on top of the list for the psych eval. 157 00:07:15,018 --> 00:07:17,562 You just find who did this. 158 00:07:17,645 --> 00:07:19,230 - I will. 159 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:25,028 Hey, what did we get from the witnesses? 160 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:26,196 - Neighbor's a bust. 161 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:27,447 He heard the guy in the fire escape. 162 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:28,656 He couldn't get a good look. 163 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:30,283 - But the Amazon driver did, 164 00:07:30,325 --> 00:07:32,160 said that he saw a man in a COVID mask 165 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:33,161 get into a blue Honda. 166 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:34,245 - We get a license plate? 167 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,414 - No. Let me show you why. 168 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:41,086 The plate's got some kind of cover on it. 169 00:07:41,127 --> 00:07:42,253 The guy knows what he's doing. 170 00:07:42,337 --> 00:07:43,713 - It's too far away to ID the driver, 171 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:45,298 but the perp gets into the passenger side. 172 00:07:45,423 --> 00:07:46,841 - Which means that he had an accomplice. 173 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:48,468 - Did any other cameras pick this up? 174 00:07:48,551 --> 00:07:49,719 - No, none better than this. 175 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:51,304 We'll put out an APB on what we got. 176 00:07:51,429 --> 00:07:52,931 - Okay, did we get anything back from the labs? 177 00:07:53,056 --> 00:07:54,391 - No prints on the cord that was left behind, 178 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:57,143 but they're pushing his blood through CODIS. 179 00:07:57,185 --> 00:07:58,812 - Hey, where's-- where's Rollins? 180 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:04,150 So tell me you wanna be alone 181 00:08:04,234 --> 00:08:05,568 without telling me you wanna be alone. 182 00:08:05,694 --> 00:08:07,529 - I just needed to focus. 183 00:08:07,612 --> 00:08:09,531 - Yeah, focus on your old cases? 184 00:08:09,614 --> 00:08:11,408 - I've got it narrowed down. 185 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:15,120 - Based on what? - Motive and recent releases. 186 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:16,329 Here's Robert Watson. 187 00:08:16,371 --> 00:08:17,914 He was a fire escape peeping Tom 188 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:20,458 we collared few weeks ago for the third time. 189 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:21,835 Somehow he made bail. 190 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,087 Michael Simmons, a rapist who was escalating 191 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:26,047 when I arrested him ten years ago. 192 00:08:26,131 --> 00:08:27,924 He was released last month. 193 00:08:28,049 --> 00:08:30,093 Then we got Bruce Ingram. 194 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:32,846 He threatened to kill Carisi after his arraignment. 195 00:08:33,013 --> 00:08:34,556 Um, he was just found not guilty at trial. 196 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:36,349 - Yeah, I remember him. 197 00:08:36,391 --> 00:08:37,851 He had a bogus alibi. - Mm-hmm. 198 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:40,437 - But then DNA exonerated him in the final hour. 199 00:08:40,562 --> 00:08:43,064 - Could still hold a grudge, so I figured I'll run 'em down, 200 00:08:43,148 --> 00:08:44,858 uh, rule 'em out with their voices. 201 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:47,652 - Yeah, okay, so, uh, we knew that the review of the shooting 202 00:08:47,777 --> 00:08:49,279 would come back clean. - Yeah. 203 00:08:49,404 --> 00:08:51,322 - But you still need to clear psych. 204 00:08:51,406 --> 00:08:54,034 - Yeah, but look, Bruno's out, you know, for a funeral. 205 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:55,368 We're down a man, so I just figured-- 206 00:08:55,493 --> 00:08:56,786 - You figured--figured what? 207 00:08:56,911 --> 00:09:00,290 You figured I'd just let you skip that part? 208 00:09:00,331 --> 00:09:02,500 No, that's--that's-- it's just not good for anyone. 209 00:09:02,625 --> 00:09:07,172 Plus, Tynan, uh, is expediting your appointment. 210 00:09:07,255 --> 00:09:08,631 - Great. - Yeah. 211 00:09:08,715 --> 00:09:10,342 - All right, so the quicker it's done, the better. 212 00:09:10,425 --> 00:09:14,471 - Yeah, the quicker you talk to someone, the better. 213 00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:19,642 Because, if you don't, it'll only get worse. 214 00:09:19,768 --> 00:09:22,812 In the meantime, I'll have Curry and Griffin... 215 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:24,606 [taps table] Pay these three a visit. 216 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:28,818 - Talk to my attorney. 217 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:30,070 - Not the best way to start, Bruce. 218 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:31,321 - But they found me not guilty. 219 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:32,447 Can't you people just leave me alone? 220 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:33,990 - This isn't about that case. 221 00:09:34,115 --> 00:09:36,534 It's about Assistant District Attorney Carisi. 222 00:09:36,618 --> 00:09:38,661 - Never heard of him. - No? 223 00:09:38,703 --> 00:09:40,121 Well, he's the prosecutor that you threatened to kill 224 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:41,414 after your arraignment. 225 00:09:41,498 --> 00:09:43,041 Or does that not ring any bells? 226 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:44,376 - What about him? 227 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:46,127 - He and his wife were attacked last night. 228 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:47,921 - It's got nothing to do with me. 229 00:09:48,046 --> 00:09:51,508 - So threatening to kill him was what, a hilarious joke? 230 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:53,259 - I was mad. 231 00:09:53,343 --> 00:09:55,387 Cops accused me of hurting that girl. 232 00:09:55,512 --> 00:09:56,763 That prosecutor tried to seal the deal. 233 00:09:56,846 --> 00:09:57,806 He ruined my life. 234 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,641 - Sounds like motive. 235 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:01,017 - You already got my DNA. 236 00:10:01,059 --> 00:10:02,852 - Yeah, we do. 237 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:04,646 But if you want me out of your hair faster, 238 00:10:04,688 --> 00:10:06,731 give me a voice recording and an alibi. 239 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:10,568 - I was here working. 240 00:10:10,694 --> 00:10:13,488 And I did my time. Don't I get a second chance? 241 00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,156 - Yeah, looks like you're living it. 242 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,284 - [scoffs] Only place that would hire me. 243 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:20,829 It's better than being locked up like some caged animal. 244 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:23,581 - Well, ten years, oof, it's a long time. 245 00:10:23,707 --> 00:10:26,501 Maybe long enough to want Sergeant Rollins dead. 246 00:10:29,087 --> 00:10:30,046 - She's dead? 247 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:33,258 - No, but someone tried. 248 00:10:33,341 --> 00:10:36,428 And it looks like that doesn't surprise you. 249 00:10:36,511 --> 00:10:38,388 - I didn't do it. 250 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:39,848 But you hear things on the inside. 251 00:10:39,931 --> 00:10:41,391 I'm not the only one she put away. 252 00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:43,518 - Anyone who's capable of doing this? 253 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:44,811 - None I'd be willing to say. 254 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:46,271 - Hey. 255 00:10:46,396 --> 00:10:48,273 You like being out of the cage, right? 256 00:10:50,525 --> 00:10:54,904 Let's keep it that way. Give me names and your voice. 257 00:10:54,946 --> 00:10:59,242 - Shoot, and Counselor Carisi dies, Sergeant Rollins. 258 00:10:59,367 --> 00:11:00,243 - It's not them. - Are you sure? 259 00:11:00,285 --> 00:11:02,412 - No, I'm positive. 260 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,247 Anything on the names that Simmons gave us? 261 00:11:04,289 --> 00:11:06,374 - Griffin checked them out. They're all still in prison. 262 00:11:06,458 --> 00:11:08,918 - Okay, and did we talk to Robert Watson? 263 00:11:09,044 --> 00:11:10,920 - Talked to his parole officer. 264 00:11:10,962 --> 00:11:13,214 Watson was in Central Booking at the time of the attack. 265 00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:14,132 - Still nothing on the blue Honda? 266 00:11:14,257 --> 00:11:15,592 - Not yet. 267 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:16,801 I mean, my guess is, they either ditched it 268 00:11:16,968 --> 00:11:18,136 or they're laying low somewhere. 269 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:19,763 - Or they uncovered the plates 270 00:11:19,846 --> 00:11:21,306 and they're halfway to the Midwest right now 271 00:11:21,348 --> 00:11:22,557 and we are back to square one. 272 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:23,683 [knock at door] 273 00:11:23,808 --> 00:11:24,976 - Okay. - Yeah. 274 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:26,519 - Perp's blood came back from the lab. 275 00:11:26,644 --> 00:11:29,397 Matched an attempted murder from a week ago in Brooklyn. 276 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,067 Vic's name, Diana Vitale, 62. 277 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:33,401 Neighbor found her tied up with a cord. 278 00:11:33,443 --> 00:11:36,029 Multiple stab wounds-- - Wait, I know that name. 279 00:11:36,112 --> 00:11:37,822 Diana Vitale. She's a court reporter. 280 00:11:37,906 --> 00:11:39,115 She's retired now, 281 00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:40,450 but she worked a lot of trials with Carisi. 282 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:42,118 - Brooklyn Homicide get any leads? 283 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:43,536 - Not yet, no. But Vitale survived. 284 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:44,537 She's still in the hospital. 285 00:11:44,621 --> 00:11:45,663 - Great, I'll talk to her. 286 00:11:45,747 --> 00:11:47,290 - I can-- 287 00:11:47,332 --> 00:11:50,543 - Amanda, you still need to get to your psych eval. 288 00:11:50,627 --> 00:11:52,796 You gotta do it. - Yeah. 289 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,631 Thanks. 290 00:11:54,673 --> 00:11:58,134 [tense music] 291 00:11:58,176 --> 00:12:00,178 - Diana Vitale. 292 00:12:00,303 --> 00:12:02,347 A stab in the back that led to paralysis. 293 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:04,599 Two more to the abdomen, one of which punctured her stomach. 294 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:06,976 Led to sepsis we couldn't control. 295 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:08,978 She was one of yours? 296 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:10,897 - She is now. 297 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:19,739 . 298 00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:20,573 [door squeaks] 299 00:12:21,032 --> 00:12:21,950 - Ready, Amanda? 300 00:12:26,496 --> 00:12:27,831 - You come out of retirement just for me? 301 00:12:27,956 --> 00:12:29,290 - [chuckles] - [sighs] 302 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:31,418 - I still fill in from time to time, 303 00:12:31,459 --> 00:12:34,087 especially at Olivia's request. 304 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:43,847 - Uh, yeah, so I'm sleeping fine. 305 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,807 There's no insomnia, no nightmares. 306 00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:47,976 - Any re-experiencing? 307 00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:50,395 - A little. - What crosses your mind? 308 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:52,313 - What I would have done differently. 309 00:12:52,397 --> 00:12:54,357 What--what-- 310 00:12:54,441 --> 00:12:57,694 could have happened if my kids were home. 311 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:59,529 - When you go to that place, how do you feel? 312 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:01,239 - Angry. 313 00:13:04,367 --> 00:13:05,869 Powerless. 314 00:13:05,994 --> 00:13:09,497 But after that, um, you know, I feel focused. 315 00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:11,041 - So I've heard. 316 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:13,752 Benson tells me you've hit the ground running. 317 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:15,128 - What else does she tell you? 318 00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:19,924 - She told me you returned recently to SVU. 319 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:24,387 Before that, a stint at Intel, professor at Fordham. 320 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,931 You like to move around. 321 00:13:27,057 --> 00:13:28,350 - I don't see how that's relevant. 322 00:13:32,062 --> 00:13:34,022 - I'm not trying to trick you, Amanda. 323 00:13:34,105 --> 00:13:35,273 You and I both know 324 00:13:35,357 --> 00:13:36,691 that you'll come up with a good answer 325 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,443 for every question that I ask you, 326 00:13:38,485 --> 00:13:41,237 but what you should also know is that all I want out of this 327 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:44,199 is for you to be honest. 328 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:49,079 So why don't you like to stay put? 329 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,081 - [claps softly] 330 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:55,126 I guess it comes from how I grew up. 331 00:13:55,251 --> 00:13:58,171 - Abusive father, addicted sister. 332 00:13:58,254 --> 00:14:01,132 That must be a very unsettling way to grow up. 333 00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:05,220 - Yeah, you're always waiting for the shoe to drop. 334 00:14:05,303 --> 00:14:10,475 And you're always braced for impact. 335 00:14:10,558 --> 00:14:12,477 I got out of there as quick as I could. 336 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:17,023 - Still, it couldn't have been easy. 337 00:14:17,107 --> 00:14:20,819 Must have felt like you had no control over your life. 338 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:22,237 Like you were powerless. 339 00:14:25,407 --> 00:14:27,617 - Yeah. 340 00:14:27,742 --> 00:14:31,788 - It's easy to equate movement with survival. 341 00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:33,998 Evolutionarily, it makes sense. 342 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,001 Motion has always meant life. 343 00:14:36,084 --> 00:14:40,714 If you stay still, you get left behind. 344 00:14:40,797 --> 00:14:43,133 - I guess I don't like being still, then. 345 00:14:43,174 --> 00:14:44,342 - [chuckles softly] 346 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:47,220 Then I'd like to give you a little advice. 347 00:14:47,262 --> 00:14:50,265 After I clear you and you return to the field 348 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:52,308 and you find the man who did this, 349 00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:57,772 what I would like for you to do is to slow down. 350 00:14:57,856 --> 00:15:00,650 [suspenseful music] 351 00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:05,655 ♪ ♪ 352 00:15:05,739 --> 00:15:08,033 - What else do we know about Diana Vitale? 353 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:09,909 - Not much--retired last year, 354 00:15:10,035 --> 00:15:11,745 widowed, no kids, no known enemies. 355 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:13,580 - Aside from the dozens of scumbags 356 00:15:13,705 --> 00:15:15,874 she reported on the court she shared with Carisi. 357 00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:17,375 - And me. 358 00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:18,710 So there's 82 cases where 359 00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:21,004 Vitale, Carisi, and I intersect. 360 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:22,964 - Okay, any stick out? - I'm narrowing it down, 361 00:15:23,006 --> 00:15:25,175 but I opened it up to ViCAP and I got a hit in Queens. 362 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:26,593 Julia Pratt, all right? 363 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:28,720 She, um, she's 20. 364 00:15:28,803 --> 00:15:30,305 Same MO-- the break in and wait. 365 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:31,598 She was tied up with the black cord 366 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:33,600 and she was murdered in her apartment building 367 00:15:33,683 --> 00:15:35,143 with a knife two weeks ago. 368 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:36,644 - Any connection to law enforcement? 369 00:15:36,728 --> 00:15:38,730 - Not in ViCAP, but her sister Rose is in Astoria. 370 00:15:38,855 --> 00:15:40,106 She might be able to tell us more. 371 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:42,734 - Okay, you two stay on Diana Vitale. 372 00:15:42,859 --> 00:15:45,236 Phones, emails. See what you can dig up. 373 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,488 - Okay. 374 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:50,241 - How'd it go with Wong? 375 00:15:50,325 --> 00:15:51,743 - Fine. He cleared me. - Yeah, I know. 376 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:54,579 He, uh--I talked to him. 377 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:56,539 - You checking up on me? 378 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:58,291 - Yes, Amanda, I am. 379 00:15:58,375 --> 00:16:01,628 The same way you would do if it were me. 380 00:16:01,711 --> 00:16:03,254 - Captain. 381 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,215 Dispatch called about a white male at an urgent care. 382 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:07,759 Nurse said it's a gunshot wound, left shoulder. 383 00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:10,303 - Change of plan. Head to the urgent care. 384 00:16:14,683 --> 00:16:19,312 - He came in dodgy, aggressive with my receptionist. 385 00:16:19,396 --> 00:16:20,772 - And what'd he say had happened to him? 386 00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:22,148 - Said he was working construction. 387 00:16:22,190 --> 00:16:24,192 Said someone clipped him with a nail gun, 388 00:16:24,275 --> 00:16:27,362 but I took one look at it and I knew that it was a bullet. 389 00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:28,571 They tried to cut it out themselves. 390 00:16:28,697 --> 00:16:30,031 They tried to clean it. 391 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,991 - Who is they? - He was with a woman. 392 00:16:32,075 --> 00:16:34,619 White, brown hair. She looked strung out. 393 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:36,246 - Okay. 394 00:16:36,287 --> 00:16:38,498 We are gonna need the footage from those cameras. 395 00:16:38,623 --> 00:16:41,126 - They don't work, but I did see them drive off. 396 00:16:41,251 --> 00:16:43,712 - Blue Honda? - Yeah. 397 00:16:43,795 --> 00:16:45,714 Caught the first few digits of the license plate. 398 00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:52,387 - My sister lit up every room she walked into. 399 00:16:52,429 --> 00:16:55,056 I still can't understand who would wanna hurt her. 400 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:56,891 - I'm so sorry, Rose. 401 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:59,936 We just have a few more questions for you, okay? 402 00:17:00,061 --> 00:17:03,732 - So we understand that Julia worked in fashion. 403 00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:05,650 Is that right? 404 00:17:05,734 --> 00:17:07,610 - She went to FIT. 405 00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:11,239 Her internship gave her a job after she graduated. 406 00:17:11,322 --> 00:17:14,534 - Was there ever a time that she explored law enforcement? 407 00:17:14,617 --> 00:17:16,202 - Law enforcement? 408 00:17:16,286 --> 00:17:17,704 No. 409 00:17:17,829 --> 00:17:18,997 Why? 410 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:20,957 - Because the man who hurt her 411 00:17:21,082 --> 00:17:23,501 uh, may have been targeting the justice system 412 00:17:23,543 --> 00:17:24,711 and we're trying to figure out 413 00:17:24,836 --> 00:17:29,632 if Julia had some other connection to it. 414 00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:32,010 - Our aunt is a judge. 415 00:17:33,595 --> 00:17:36,348 She took us in after our mom walked out, 416 00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:40,268 became our legal guardian, retired to Florida in May. 417 00:17:42,312 --> 00:17:45,690 - Your--your aunt is Judge Anita Wright? 418 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:49,694 - Diana Vitale, me, and Carisi, 419 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,571 there's 82 overlapping cases, 420 00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:53,615 but only 5 including Judge Anita Wright. 421 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:54,699 - So it could have been the defendant 422 00:17:54,824 --> 00:17:55,950 in any one of those cases. 423 00:17:56,034 --> 00:17:59,120 - No, no, I know who it is. 424 00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:00,497 Henry Mesner. 425 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,540 We first encountered him in 2013. 426 00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:04,334 He was abusing his little sister, Ruby. 427 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:08,213 - Yeah, so he was released from juvenile detention in 2021. 428 00:18:08,296 --> 00:18:10,048 He got out, he raped a college student, 429 00:18:10,173 --> 00:18:12,342 and then he murdered his family. 430 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:13,760 - Yeah, I remember this case. 431 00:18:13,885 --> 00:18:16,137 Rollins saved his sister after he took her hostage. 432 00:18:16,179 --> 00:18:18,473 - And after we arrested Henry, he stabbed Carisi 433 00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:20,058 in a competency hearing. 434 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:21,559 - This guy's not still just walking around out there? 435 00:18:21,601 --> 00:18:23,228 - No, no, no. He stood trial. 436 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:25,480 He's 5 years into 60 at Sing Sing. 437 00:18:25,563 --> 00:18:27,649 - But that doesn't mean he's not still pulling the strings. 438 00:18:27,691 --> 00:18:30,694 And to find out how, we need to go talk to him. 439 00:18:30,777 --> 00:18:32,737 [phone buzzes] - Maybe not. 440 00:18:32,821 --> 00:18:35,115 TARU found the blue Honda based on the partial plate. 441 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,492 It belongs to an 18-year-old 442 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,327 with a rap sheet for drug possession. 443 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:41,413 - We know her? 444 00:18:41,496 --> 00:18:44,457 [tense music] 445 00:18:44,499 --> 00:18:48,503 - That-- - That's Henry's sister. 446 00:18:48,586 --> 00:18:50,422 That's Ruby Mesner. 447 00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:54,509 ♪ ♪ 448 00:18:59,848 --> 00:19:00,140 . 449 00:19:00,181 --> 00:19:01,182 - Our son moved to California. 450 00:19:02,225 --> 00:19:04,853 That's when we got the idea to foster. 451 00:19:04,936 --> 00:19:08,481 Ruby was placed with us five years ago. 452 00:19:08,565 --> 00:19:10,442 She hardly spoke at first. 453 00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:12,193 - But she had what she needed-- 454 00:19:12,277 --> 00:19:14,237 a bed, food. 455 00:19:14,362 --> 00:19:16,031 - We tried to love her. 456 00:19:16,156 --> 00:19:18,158 We thought she'd be okay for a while, beat the odds. 457 00:19:18,199 --> 00:19:21,119 - And then she started having problems? 458 00:19:21,202 --> 00:19:23,246 - School called every other day. 459 00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:25,498 Grades slipping, running away, 460 00:19:25,582 --> 00:19:27,083 kept finding pills under her mattress. 461 00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:28,877 - We called her social worker, 462 00:19:28,918 --> 00:19:31,796 and they put her into rehab for a month. 463 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,840 But things only got worse. 464 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:37,635 - Was--was Ruby ever, uh, violent? 465 00:19:37,761 --> 00:19:39,554 - Only with herself. 466 00:19:39,596 --> 00:19:43,475 She cut her arms so deep, it was just awful. 467 00:19:43,641 --> 00:19:47,270 - After Ruby turned 18, got herself arrested for drugs. 468 00:19:47,354 --> 00:19:49,606 That was enough. 469 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:52,984 I told her she had to leave, and I'm not sorry I did. 470 00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:54,819 It was the right thing. 471 00:19:57,113 --> 00:19:59,991 - Do you have any idea where she might be 472 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:02,243 or who she might be with? 473 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:03,536 - My guess is with her boyfriend. 474 00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:04,871 - What's his name? 475 00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:07,207 - Phillip something. We never met him. 476 00:20:07,290 --> 00:20:08,792 - She was with him 477 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:10,960 when she called begging for money a few weeks ago. 478 00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:12,671 Heard her talking to him. 479 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:14,089 - The number we have for Ruby traces back to this address, 480 00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:15,507 but it went dead months ago. 481 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:17,759 - It wasn't her phone she called from. 482 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:21,638 We still have the number. I--I tried it a few times. 483 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,308 Ruby never picks up. 484 00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:27,936 - TARU is looking into this number that Ruby called from. 485 00:20:28,061 --> 00:20:29,020 Hopefully, it'll tell us something 486 00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:30,939 about whoever this Phillip is. 487 00:20:31,022 --> 00:20:33,108 - It won't tell us about his connection to Henry. 488 00:20:33,274 --> 00:20:34,984 We should be headed to Sing Sing right now. 489 00:20:35,026 --> 00:20:36,903 - Yeah, so Amanda, I haven't made a decision about 490 00:20:36,986 --> 00:20:39,280 whether talking to Henry is the best idea. 491 00:20:39,364 --> 00:20:41,491 - Well, that's all we have. 492 00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:43,618 Uh, besides this phone number. 493 00:20:43,702 --> 00:20:45,328 And we don't know if the killing spree is over yet. 494 00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:46,871 - But we do know Henry. 495 00:20:46,955 --> 00:20:48,456 And we know that he'd love nothing more 496 00:20:48,623 --> 00:20:51,501 than to string us along and play games 497 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,211 whether he knows something or not. 498 00:20:53,253 --> 00:20:56,297 - It's no coincidence that his sister is the getaway driver. 499 00:20:56,464 --> 00:20:58,717 And Henry can play games all he wants, 500 00:20:58,842 --> 00:21:00,176 but if he knows something, 501 00:21:00,301 --> 00:21:02,137 I'll be able to tell just by looking at him. 502 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:04,514 - I know you would. 503 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:05,807 But I would too. 504 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:12,147 And I'll be going to Sing Sing myself. 505 00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:18,153 - Henry hasn't caused any problems. 506 00:21:18,236 --> 00:21:19,738 - Was he close with anyone? 507 00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:22,532 Maybe a guard or an inmate who's been released recently? 508 00:21:22,657 --> 00:21:24,034 - Uh, not that I know of. 509 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,535 Have a seat. 510 00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:27,037 - Thank you. - Yeah. 511 00:21:27,162 --> 00:21:29,205 - And what about his communication with the outside? 512 00:21:29,247 --> 00:21:31,082 - Nothing in his incoming mail to alert our staff. 513 00:21:31,249 --> 00:21:33,209 And nothing outgoing. 514 00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:36,671 - So he hasn't made any calls lately or had any visitors? 515 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:38,298 - No. 516 00:21:38,381 --> 00:21:41,718 His last visit was a year ago-- his sister, Ruby Mesner. 517 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:44,471 - Oh, well, you know what they talked about? 518 00:21:44,554 --> 00:21:47,891 No, there's not much in the transcript. 519 00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:50,352 Uh, the guards had to pull her out of the room pretty quick. 520 00:21:50,477 --> 00:21:51,728 - Why is that? 521 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:53,646 - Because she tried to attack him. 522 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,278 [door buzzer blares] 523 00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:01,696 - [sighs] 524 00:22:09,245 --> 00:22:10,872 Have a seat, Henry. 525 00:22:13,875 --> 00:22:17,212 You look happy to see me. 526 00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:19,756 - It's been a long time since I had any visitors. 527 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,343 - Well, I heard that you've actually adjusted quite well. 528 00:22:23,426 --> 00:22:27,472 No disciplinary measures, no issues with other inmates. 529 00:22:27,639 --> 00:22:30,141 - I'll probably die in here. 530 00:22:30,225 --> 00:22:31,893 Shouldn't I be making the most of it? 531 00:22:31,976 --> 00:22:37,148 - Well, that depends on what that means to you. 532 00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:39,651 - I think it means reform, 533 00:22:39,734 --> 00:22:42,195 rehabilitation, responsibility. 534 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:43,738 - For what you did to your family. 535 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,326 For what you did to Ruby. 536 00:22:48,451 --> 00:22:52,497 I heard that she actually came to visit you a while back. 537 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:57,669 And, uh, things got a little, little dicey? 538 00:22:57,752 --> 00:23:01,256 - I don't think you came here about my sister. 539 00:23:01,381 --> 00:23:03,091 I think you're here about something else. 540 00:23:07,345 --> 00:23:10,056 - Why do you think I'm here? 541 00:23:10,098 --> 00:23:12,475 - [chuckles softly] Gotta say, 542 00:23:12,517 --> 00:23:14,853 I'm surprised that you're the one coming to see me. 543 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:17,313 - Were you expecting someone else? 544 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:19,858 - Always had a soft spot for Detective Rollins. 545 00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:21,443 - Yeah, I remember that. 546 00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:24,654 Well, she's actually a sergeant now. 547 00:23:24,696 --> 00:23:26,364 - Good for her. 548 00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:27,991 And I heard she's married. 549 00:23:28,033 --> 00:23:28,908 To what's-his-name? 550 00:23:28,992 --> 00:23:32,620 Ah, Lawyer Carisi. 551 00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:33,872 Tell them both I said hello. 552 00:23:33,955 --> 00:23:36,916 - I will. 553 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:39,669 After I tell them that I was right. 554 00:23:39,711 --> 00:23:40,837 - Right about what? 555 00:23:40,879 --> 00:23:43,256 [tense music] 556 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:45,467 - That talking to you was a waste of time. 557 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:50,638 ♪ ♪ 558 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,140 - Maybe I'm just talking to the wrong person. 559 00:23:52,182 --> 00:23:53,516 You know, if Sergeant Rollins was here-- 560 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,685 - I'm not here to negotiate, Henry. 561 00:23:55,769 --> 00:23:58,605 - Well, then I guess we're both walking away empty-handed. 562 00:23:58,772 --> 00:23:59,981 - You wanna know what I think? 563 00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:04,986 I think you got nothing to say. 564 00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:10,950 Goodbye, Henry. 565 00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:17,999 ♪ ♪ 566 00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:21,628 - Hey, was just in the neighborhood. 567 00:24:21,711 --> 00:24:24,547 I had to, um-- had to pick up some stuff. 568 00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:25,840 - Yeah? - Uh-huh. 569 00:24:25,924 --> 00:24:27,258 - What stuff? 570 00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:28,426 - [scoffs] All right. Sue me. 571 00:24:28,468 --> 00:24:29,761 Look, I'm just checking in on you. 572 00:24:29,844 --> 00:24:31,346 - Uh-huh. 573 00:24:31,388 --> 00:24:33,098 - Listen, this, uh, this Henry Mesner thing. 574 00:24:33,181 --> 00:24:34,724 - Yeah. Benson thinks he's bluffing. 575 00:24:34,849 --> 00:24:36,101 She won't let me go in. 576 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,644 - Yeah, well, maybe she's got a point. 577 00:24:37,686 --> 00:24:38,895 Look, at best, he's full of it. 578 00:24:39,062 --> 00:24:41,523 At worst, he's--he's not. He could be dangerous. 579 00:24:41,606 --> 00:24:43,900 - Are you saying that as the ADA or as my husband? 580 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:45,026 - I'm saying it as both. 581 00:24:45,151 --> 00:24:46,903 - Okay, I appreciate it, but right now, 582 00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:48,822 me going in to talk to Henry might be the only way 583 00:24:48,905 --> 00:24:49,864 we catch the guy that did this to us. 584 00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:51,408 [phone buzzes] 585 00:24:51,449 --> 00:24:53,034 - What is it? 586 00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:55,370 - TARU traced the number that Ruby missed her call from. 587 00:24:55,412 --> 00:24:58,456 A Phillip Wingate. We've got an address. 588 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:00,583 - NYPD! 589 00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:02,502 - Go, go, go, go! 590 00:25:02,585 --> 00:25:04,921 - Phillip Wingate, NYPD! We have a warrant! 591 00:25:04,963 --> 00:25:07,424 [tense music] 592 00:25:07,465 --> 00:25:08,466 - Pushing up! 593 00:25:08,633 --> 00:25:10,135 [officers shouting] 594 00:25:10,218 --> 00:25:17,225 ♪ ♪ 595 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:20,520 - Clear. - Clear! 596 00:25:47,172 --> 00:25:48,465 [floorboard creaks] 597 00:25:48,548 --> 00:25:49,883 - Hey. 598 00:25:52,469 --> 00:25:53,511 - These are the names of the victims. 599 00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,430 - Yeah. 600 00:25:55,513 --> 00:25:58,308 Public court records on Henry's cases, news articles about him. 601 00:25:58,433 --> 00:25:59,517 - Got movement upstairs. 602 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:01,936 Bedroom door. Ready to breach. 603 00:26:08,985 --> 00:26:10,528 - NYPD, coming in. 604 00:26:10,612 --> 00:26:17,660 ♪ ♪ 605 00:26:17,702 --> 00:26:19,704 Okay. Okay. 606 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:25,794 Ruby? 607 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:31,466 Ruby, where is Phillip? 608 00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:38,598 ♪ ♪ 609 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:52,278 . 610 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,780 - Phillip Wingate, 28, parents are deceased 611 00:26:55,198 --> 00:26:56,449 and he's lived with his grandmother since he was three. 612 00:26:56,574 --> 00:26:57,784 - Spotty employment records. 613 00:26:57,826 --> 00:26:59,953 He was fired from his last job six months ago 614 00:26:59,994 --> 00:27:01,329 right around the time his grandma died 615 00:27:01,413 --> 00:27:02,580 and left him the townhouse. 616 00:27:02,622 --> 00:27:04,207 - No criminal record. 617 00:27:04,332 --> 00:27:06,793 - Only juvenile, which is why his DNA wasn't in the system. 618 00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,254 When Phillip was 12, he abused a younger cousin. 619 00:27:09,379 --> 00:27:12,549 - Guy had a thing for hunting squirrels in Central Park. 620 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:14,217 - Checks all the boxes. 621 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:16,094 - So what did we learn from these journals? 622 00:27:16,136 --> 00:27:18,596 - Yeah, guy is very prolific. 623 00:27:18,722 --> 00:27:21,975 He writes his victims' names over and over and over again 624 00:27:22,058 --> 00:27:24,686 with what seems like either poetry or gibberish. 625 00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:25,937 - And a lot of writing about Henry. 626 00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:27,522 I mean, he's obviously obsessed. 627 00:27:27,605 --> 00:27:29,607 - But it doesn't explain how they met 628 00:27:29,691 --> 00:27:31,151 or whether Henry put Phillip up to this. 629 00:27:31,276 --> 00:27:32,569 - And nothing that indicates 630 00:27:32,652 --> 00:27:34,612 where he is now or where he's headed next. 631 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:35,822 - There's over a dozen of these things 632 00:27:35,947 --> 00:27:36,948 we're still sorting through. 633 00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:39,617 - I say we just ask her. 634 00:27:54,007 --> 00:27:55,425 - I know you. 635 00:27:55,550 --> 00:27:57,469 - Yeah, you do. 636 00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,054 We helped you out a long time ago, 637 00:27:59,095 --> 00:28:00,638 and we might be able to help you out now 638 00:28:00,764 --> 00:28:02,640 if you're willing to talk to us. 639 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:03,600 - I don't know where Phillip is. 640 00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,602 - Yeah, but you do know 641 00:28:05,685 --> 00:28:08,980 how this whole thing started, don't you, Ruby? 642 00:28:09,022 --> 00:28:11,524 We spoke with your foster parents. 643 00:28:11,649 --> 00:28:13,568 - They don't care about me. 644 00:28:13,651 --> 00:28:16,571 - I think they tried to. 645 00:28:16,696 --> 00:28:19,824 But look, after everything that you've gone through, 646 00:28:19,908 --> 00:28:21,534 I certainly understand how it feels, 647 00:28:21,618 --> 00:28:25,914 like nobody cares, but that's not true. 648 00:28:25,997 --> 00:28:29,584 We care. And we'd like to help you. 649 00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:31,670 But we need for you to be honest with us 650 00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:32,962 for us to do that. 651 00:28:33,004 --> 00:28:36,007 Can you do that? 652 00:28:36,091 --> 00:28:39,761 So why don't you tell us about Phillip? 653 00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:41,888 How did you two meet? 654 00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:46,226 - He found me a few months ago. 655 00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:47,977 He said he wanted to take care of me. 656 00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:49,312 - Mm-hmm. 657 00:28:49,396 --> 00:28:52,023 - At first, it was fine. 658 00:28:52,107 --> 00:28:55,527 He didn't really want anything from me. 659 00:28:55,652 --> 00:28:57,112 Until he started asking questions. 660 00:28:57,237 --> 00:28:59,322 - About Henry? 661 00:28:59,364 --> 00:29:01,157 - [softly] Yeah. 662 00:29:01,282 --> 00:29:04,160 What he was like. 663 00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:05,870 How much I remember from when he'd hurt me. 664 00:29:05,995 --> 00:29:08,123 - Does Phillip know Henry? 665 00:29:08,248 --> 00:29:09,833 - No. 666 00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:11,167 No, no. 667 00:29:11,251 --> 00:29:13,670 He--he said he heard about him on a podcast 668 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:15,964 or the news or something. [sniffles] 669 00:29:16,089 --> 00:29:17,716 - Ruby, why is Phillip doing this? 670 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:19,009 - I don't know. 671 00:29:19,134 --> 00:29:21,302 He would just-- 672 00:29:21,428 --> 00:29:23,179 he would say things I didn't know what they meant. 673 00:29:23,263 --> 00:29:25,557 - Well, what-- what kind of things? 674 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,933 - He was like-- 675 00:29:27,058 --> 00:29:29,436 he was like, in service of Henry. 676 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:33,148 I don't--he was like, wanted to be close to him. 677 00:29:33,231 --> 00:29:35,984 - So that's--that's why he sought you out, huh? 678 00:29:38,403 --> 00:29:41,823 - Once he did, I couldn't escape. 679 00:29:41,948 --> 00:29:44,868 - So you just... 680 00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:46,036 went along with it? 681 00:29:46,161 --> 00:29:49,497 [tense music] 682 00:29:49,539 --> 00:29:52,459 You waited while he murdered those people, 683 00:29:52,584 --> 00:29:54,419 and you drove the getaway car? 684 00:29:54,502 --> 00:29:56,296 - Phillip was gonna kill me. What was I supposed to do? 685 00:29:56,338 --> 00:29:58,506 - I don't know, go to the cops? 686 00:29:58,631 --> 00:29:59,716 Call us? 687 00:29:59,841 --> 00:30:01,968 Get out of there? 688 00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:05,597 And instead, you helped him kill those people 689 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,307 and come after me and my family. 690 00:30:07,349 --> 00:30:08,725 - No, he just told me to drive. 691 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,143 I didn't--I didn't know what he was doing-- 692 00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:11,853 - Yeah, you don't know a whole lot, do you, Ruby? 693 00:30:11,936 --> 00:30:13,396 Like--like where Phillip is. You don't know that? 694 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,522 - Sergeant. - I was afraid! 695 00:30:14,606 --> 00:30:17,025 - Oh, I don't believe you, Ruby. 696 00:30:17,150 --> 00:30:18,485 I don't. 697 00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:19,861 I think you're protecting Phillip and your brother. 698 00:30:19,944 --> 00:30:21,821 - Okay, Sergeant, that's enough-- 699 00:30:21,946 --> 00:30:23,239 - You know what? I saved your life. 700 00:30:23,281 --> 00:30:24,824 - I wish you didn't! 701 00:30:24,908 --> 00:30:26,076 - So do I! 702 00:30:26,201 --> 00:30:28,536 - Hey. We're done here. 703 00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:29,913 Rollins, now. 704 00:30:30,038 --> 00:30:35,794 ♪ ♪ 705 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:37,003 Are you kidding me? 706 00:30:37,087 --> 00:30:38,213 - Yeah? - What was that? 707 00:30:38,338 --> 00:30:39,589 You need to cool down. 708 00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:40,965 - Cool down? 709 00:30:41,007 --> 00:30:42,133 - We need her to talk! 710 00:30:42,258 --> 00:30:43,843 - Yes, and in her current state, 711 00:30:43,968 --> 00:30:45,553 I'm not sure that she can tell us-- 712 00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:47,972 - Who cares about her current state? 713 00:30:48,056 --> 00:30:50,725 There's a murderer out there, Liv, and she's involved! 714 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:52,894 - I care about her current state, and so should you. 715 00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:54,646 After everything that that girl has been through? 716 00:30:54,688 --> 00:30:56,147 Are you kidding me? - She helped Phillip. 717 00:30:56,272 --> 00:30:57,565 And now we don't know whether Henry's-- 718 00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:59,234 Henry's behind him. 719 00:30:59,317 --> 00:31:02,237 - Henry is playing us, and she just about confirmed that. 720 00:31:02,362 --> 00:31:03,988 All that guy wants is your attention. 721 00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:05,865 - Yeah, well, he has it. 722 00:31:05,949 --> 00:31:07,409 You know, and I could use that if you'd let me go talk to him. 723 00:31:07,534 --> 00:31:08,702 - Because I'm trying to protect you. 724 00:31:08,743 --> 00:31:10,954 - I don't need your protection. 725 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:12,872 I need you to trust me. 726 00:31:12,956 --> 00:31:14,207 - Okay, that's not what this is about. 727 00:31:14,332 --> 00:31:15,792 - Then why did you take me out of the room? 728 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:18,128 - Because you're not yourself. 729 00:31:18,253 --> 00:31:22,215 That girl needs our help, not an interrogation. 730 00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:24,634 She's a victim of both Henry and Phillip. 731 00:31:24,718 --> 00:31:26,094 And quite frankly, so are you. 732 00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:28,596 - Oh, my God. You never turn it off. 733 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,223 - What does that mean? 734 00:31:30,306 --> 00:31:32,350 - It means not everyone deserves your empathy, Olivia. 735 00:31:32,434 --> 00:31:39,441 ♪ ♪ 736 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,236 [groans] 737 00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:46,489 - I can't have you on this case anymore, Amanda. 738 00:31:46,531 --> 00:31:47,574 You're off. 739 00:32:17,896 --> 00:32:19,022 - Hello, Amanda. 740 00:32:19,147 --> 00:32:23,151 ♪ ♪ 741 00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:29,324 . 742 00:32:29,324 --> 00:32:30,325 - I had a feeling you'd come. 743 00:32:31,159 --> 00:32:33,536 - You asked for me, didn't you? 744 00:32:33,661 --> 00:32:35,955 - Do you remember the last thing you said to me? 745 00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:37,332 - I'm surprised if you do, 746 00:32:37,457 --> 00:32:39,542 considering how drugged up you were. 747 00:32:39,626 --> 00:32:42,128 - If you ever go after anyone in my family again, 748 00:32:42,253 --> 00:32:44,255 it'll be your last day on Earth? 749 00:32:44,422 --> 00:32:46,424 Is that why you came? 750 00:32:46,508 --> 00:32:48,343 - To kill you? - No. 751 00:32:48,468 --> 00:32:52,222 - You can't do that until you know it was me or not. 752 00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:55,016 - I know who it is. 753 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,352 Why I'm here is to see if you do. 754 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,610 - You want to know if I recognize them? 755 00:33:05,735 --> 00:33:06,945 - No, I know you do. 756 00:33:07,028 --> 00:33:08,196 These are all people that helped put you away. 757 00:33:08,321 --> 00:33:10,073 And the person who's going after them, Henry, 758 00:33:10,156 --> 00:33:12,826 I gotta tell you, they're pretty good at it. 759 00:33:14,327 --> 00:33:18,289 But this person is smart, organized, 760 00:33:18,331 --> 00:33:20,709 like they're on a mission. 761 00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:30,635 It's your sister, Henry. It's Ruby. 762 00:33:30,719 --> 00:33:34,222 [tense music] 763 00:33:34,305 --> 00:33:36,975 - Ruby didn't do any of this. She's not capable. 764 00:33:37,017 --> 00:33:38,101 - Are you sure about that? 765 00:33:38,143 --> 00:33:39,978 - Are you dumb? 766 00:33:40,145 --> 00:33:41,187 She's weak, pathetic. 767 00:33:41,354 --> 00:33:43,189 She's a victim, always will be. 768 00:33:43,273 --> 00:33:44,983 - Okay, thank you. 769 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:49,195 - W--what I meant to say was 770 00:33:49,237 --> 00:33:51,698 she couldn't have done it by herself. 771 00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,163 She couldn't have known how to hold the knife 772 00:33:58,329 --> 00:34:02,667 or what it would feel like when you push it into someone. 773 00:34:02,792 --> 00:34:07,047 The soft belly, the bony throat. 774 00:34:07,213 --> 00:34:10,967 It's a very specific skill set. 775 00:34:11,009 --> 00:34:14,888 - And who do we think helped her navigate all that? 776 00:34:14,971 --> 00:34:17,766 Who had that-- that right set of skills? 777 00:34:17,807 --> 00:34:19,017 - I did. 778 00:34:21,144 --> 00:34:23,730 It wasn't very hard. 779 00:34:23,772 --> 00:34:27,108 Guards are easy, let me use their phones. 780 00:34:27,233 --> 00:34:28,735 I had a plan. 781 00:34:28,777 --> 00:34:30,737 I just needed someone to help me carry it out. 782 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:33,281 You know, Ruby works best being directed. 783 00:34:33,323 --> 00:34:36,201 - No, Henry, I think she did this alone. 784 00:34:36,284 --> 00:34:38,328 I think she broke into these people's houses 785 00:34:38,495 --> 00:34:39,662 and she stabbed them to death all by herself. 786 00:34:39,788 --> 00:34:41,581 - She couldn't have done anything without me. 787 00:34:41,623 --> 00:34:42,791 - Oh, so you're the mastermind? 788 00:34:42,874 --> 00:34:44,793 - Yes, I am. 789 00:34:44,959 --> 00:34:50,882 ♪ ♪ 790 00:34:50,965 --> 00:34:52,133 - No, you're not. 791 00:34:55,095 --> 00:34:58,098 But you are pathetic. 792 00:35:02,060 --> 00:35:04,229 And you got one thing right. 793 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:06,272 Ruby didn't kill these people. 794 00:35:06,314 --> 00:35:07,565 A man named Phillip Wingate did. 795 00:35:07,691 --> 00:35:08,983 He's the mastermind, 796 00:35:09,025 --> 00:35:13,822 and you are a cautionary tale at best. 797 00:35:15,156 --> 00:35:17,909 You're nothing. 798 00:35:17,951 --> 00:35:19,577 And now we both know it. 799 00:35:19,661 --> 00:35:27,002 ♪ ♪ 800 00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:29,879 - If I tell you what I know, will you come back to see me? 801 00:35:30,005 --> 00:35:31,840 - It's too late, Henry. 802 00:35:31,881 --> 00:35:33,675 Goodbye. 803 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,051 - I know him. 804 00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:37,721 I know of him, technically, 805 00:35:37,846 --> 00:35:39,889 and I can tell you about it if you promise. 806 00:35:39,931 --> 00:35:42,600 And I mean really promise to come back and see me 807 00:35:42,767 --> 00:35:44,769 every now and again. 808 00:35:47,939 --> 00:35:52,777 - Yeah, if what you tell me is actually helpful, 809 00:35:52,944 --> 00:35:56,489 I'll come visit you. 810 00:35:56,531 --> 00:35:58,116 - I get a bunch of fan letters. 811 00:35:58,158 --> 00:36:00,618 Never read them, but... 812 00:36:00,660 --> 00:36:05,790 I know a ton of them came from someone who signed them as PW. 813 00:36:05,874 --> 00:36:12,881 ♪ ♪ 814 00:36:16,885 --> 00:36:20,555 - Judge's niece, court reporter. 815 00:36:20,597 --> 00:36:24,059 Next I say hello to the childhood doctor. 816 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:31,232 ♪ ♪ 817 00:36:31,399 --> 00:36:33,693 Liv, Phillip is going after the doctor 818 00:36:33,735 --> 00:36:35,487 that Henry saw when he was a kid. 819 00:36:35,653 --> 00:36:38,740 He's going after Wong. 820 00:36:38,823 --> 00:36:41,743 [sirens wailing] 821 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,125 - Oh, he's already here. 822 00:36:49,167 --> 00:36:50,960 Okay, go, now. 823 00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:53,922 [officers shouting] 824 00:36:57,008 --> 00:36:59,761 - NYPD! - Go, go, go, go! 825 00:36:59,844 --> 00:37:02,222 - Clear! - Move in. 826 00:37:02,305 --> 00:37:05,308 - Wong, are you all right? 827 00:37:05,433 --> 00:37:07,519 - Mm. Mm. - You sure? 828 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,020 - [gasps] - Where'd he go? 829 00:37:09,145 --> 00:37:11,690 - Uh, he--he heard the sirens and he went out the back. 830 00:37:11,773 --> 00:37:13,525 - Okay. Get an EMT in here now! 831 00:37:13,608 --> 00:37:15,402 - All right, all units, suspect is on foot. 832 00:37:15,443 --> 00:37:17,946 Back exit. I repeat, back exit. 833 00:37:19,781 --> 00:37:20,949 [tires screech] 834 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:26,454 - Stop right there! 835 00:37:26,621 --> 00:37:33,461 ♪ ♪ 836 00:37:37,173 --> 00:37:39,592 - [panting] 837 00:37:46,266 --> 00:37:48,184 - Hey! 838 00:37:48,309 --> 00:37:50,562 No getaway driver, huh? 839 00:37:50,603 --> 00:37:51,980 - 'Cause you took her from me. 840 00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:53,231 - She was never yours to begin with. 841 00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:54,858 Drop the knife. 842 00:37:54,899 --> 00:37:56,359 You're under arrest. 843 00:37:56,401 --> 00:37:59,070 - But I already got what I wanted, Sergeant Rollins. 844 00:37:59,237 --> 00:38:01,656 For Henry to see me. 845 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:03,575 - I saw Henry. 846 00:38:03,658 --> 00:38:07,162 He didn't even know who you were until we told him. 847 00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,666 Those letters? He never read 'em. 848 00:38:11,833 --> 00:38:18,757 ♪ ♪ 849 00:38:19,924 --> 00:38:20,884 Don't do it! 850 00:38:21,051 --> 00:38:22,802 [gunshots] 851 00:38:25,347 --> 00:38:26,848 - Cover! - Shots fired! 852 00:38:26,931 --> 00:38:29,768 [indistinct police chatter] 853 00:38:35,065 --> 00:38:40,236 - He can't hurt anyone anymore, including you. 854 00:38:40,278 --> 00:38:41,988 - What happens now? 855 00:38:42,072 --> 00:38:43,239 - Given the circumstances, 856 00:38:43,323 --> 00:38:44,949 the DA's willing to make you a deal. 857 00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:45,992 Conspiracy in the third. 858 00:38:46,117 --> 00:38:47,494 You'll do five years' probation. 859 00:38:47,577 --> 00:38:49,371 The first year will be inpatient rehab. 860 00:38:49,454 --> 00:38:51,247 - But that deal only stands 861 00:38:51,289 --> 00:38:55,001 if you're willing to agree to do something for us. 862 00:38:55,085 --> 00:38:58,254 The next time you're in... 863 00:38:58,296 --> 00:39:00,715 a bad situation, 864 00:39:00,799 --> 00:39:02,926 you call me. 865 00:39:03,009 --> 00:39:04,052 - Why? 866 00:39:05,804 --> 00:39:07,722 - Because I know what it's like to feel stuck, Ruby. 867 00:39:07,764 --> 00:39:11,059 I know what it's like to feel powerless. 868 00:39:11,184 --> 00:39:15,522 And the next time you feel that way, 869 00:39:15,563 --> 00:39:18,733 I wanna be there to help you with that. 870 00:39:23,822 --> 00:39:26,741 [indistinct chatter] 871 00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:37,002 - She's the one who helps her. It's amazing. 872 00:39:37,043 --> 00:39:38,086 - Hey, sorry to interrupt. 873 00:39:38,169 --> 00:39:39,170 I was just-- 874 00:39:41,715 --> 00:39:43,466 Nosy, just nosy. 875 00:39:43,508 --> 00:39:44,968 How are you, Doctor? 876 00:39:45,135 --> 00:39:46,720 - All right. 877 00:39:46,845 --> 00:39:49,180 Recommitting to retirement. 878 00:39:49,305 --> 00:39:51,224 - Yeah. - How about you? 879 00:39:51,307 --> 00:39:53,852 - You know, just, uh, getting back to normal. 880 00:39:56,938 --> 00:39:59,899 - Well, I'm grateful for your insubordination, 881 00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:03,194 if that helps to break the ice. 882 00:40:06,364 --> 00:40:07,657 - Does not. 883 00:40:07,741 --> 00:40:09,367 - Hey. 884 00:40:09,492 --> 00:40:11,327 Thank you. - Of course. 885 00:40:11,494 --> 00:40:12,328 - Talk soon? 886 00:40:12,454 --> 00:40:13,788 - Yep, talk soon. 887 00:40:13,913 --> 00:40:16,041 Amanda, be well. 888 00:40:16,124 --> 00:40:17,375 - Thanks. 889 00:40:20,962 --> 00:40:22,630 Liv, I just wanna say-- 890 00:40:22,797 --> 00:40:25,550 - Don't--don't apologize if you don't mean it. 891 00:40:26,968 --> 00:40:30,138 - I'm-- 892 00:40:30,263 --> 00:40:34,059 I'm sorry I lost some of your trust. 893 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,978 [soft dramatic music] 894 00:40:37,145 --> 00:40:41,816 - Look, I understand why you did what you did. 895 00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,612 The same way you understand 896 00:40:45,653 --> 00:40:48,490 that you will never do it again. 897 00:40:50,533 --> 00:40:51,701 - All right. 898 00:40:51,785 --> 00:40:54,746 Deal. 899 00:40:54,788 --> 00:40:56,539 And hopefully, that's the last time 900 00:40:56,664 --> 00:40:59,668 we'll ever have to think about Henry Mesner again. 901 00:41:03,171 --> 00:41:06,091 [sinister music] 902 00:41:06,174 --> 00:41:08,051 ♪ ♪ 903 00:41:08,176 --> 00:41:11,012 [footsteps approaching] 904 00:41:11,179 --> 00:41:18,103 ♪ ♪ 905 00:41:28,613 --> 00:41:31,449 [dramatic music] 906 00:41:31,533 --> 00:41:38,540 ♪ ♪ 907 00:41:58,643 --> 00:42:01,646 [wolf howls]