1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:09,618 . 2 00:00:09,661 --> 00:00:12,099 - In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:12,142 --> 00:00:13,665 sexually based offenses 4 00:00:13,709 --> 00:00:15,450 are considered especially heinous. 5 00:00:15,493 --> 00:00:17,495 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 6 00:00:17,539 --> 00:00:19,323 who investigate these vicious felonies 7 00:00:19,367 --> 00:00:21,021 are members of an elite squad 8 00:00:21,064 --> 00:00:22,718 known as the Special Victims Unit. 9 00:00:22,761 --> 00:00:25,460 These are their stories. 10 00:00:25,721 --> 00:00:27,679 - Sam Conway, 15. 11 00:00:27,723 --> 00:00:30,030 His gym coach saw blood on the back side of his shorts. 12 00:00:30,073 --> 00:00:32,075 - He claims he fell. 13 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:33,685 - So we're looking at sexual assault. 14 00:00:33,729 --> 00:00:36,036 - Yeah, the exam indicated anal penetration. 15 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:37,341 - Give me names here. Who was he? 16 00:00:38,734 --> 00:00:41,432 I needed this to happen. 17 00:00:41,476 --> 00:00:44,609 See if anybody knows anything? - The mother knows. 18 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:47,134 - I heard sounds from Sam's room. 19 00:00:47,177 --> 00:00:49,353 My husband was standing over the bed. 20 00:00:49,397 --> 00:00:52,052 It looked like he was fastening his belt. 21 00:00:53,749 --> 00:00:55,142 - Mr. Conway, turn around. 22 00:00:55,185 --> 00:00:56,708 You're under arrest. 23 00:00:56,752 --> 00:00:58,101 - The rape of your son. 24 00:00:58,145 --> 00:01:00,277 - Sometimes my mom, she just-- 25 00:01:00,321 --> 00:01:01,365 she doesn't know what she's saying. 26 00:01:03,237 --> 00:01:05,500 - No, no, that's ridiculous. 27 00:01:05,543 --> 00:01:08,546 - We find the defendant not guilty. 28 00:01:11,549 --> 00:01:13,290 - Juries can be unpredictable. 29 00:01:13,334 --> 00:01:15,249 I'm not making excuses. 30 00:01:15,292 --> 00:01:17,512 Yeah. I understand, sir. 31 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:20,558 - The D.A. just asked the same thing. 32 00:01:20,602 --> 00:01:22,343 Not as politely. 33 00:01:22,386 --> 00:01:24,214 - The family stuck together. That's a tough nut to crack. 34 00:01:24,258 --> 00:01:26,477 - Yeah. I should have used a bigger hammer. 35 00:01:26,521 --> 00:01:27,826 - Mr. Conway, do you feel validated by the verdict? 36 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:29,785 - I'm glad the jury saw the truth. 37 00:01:29,828 --> 00:01:31,134 - What's next for your family? 38 00:01:31,178 --> 00:01:32,657 - I just want to get everyone home, 39 00:01:32,701 --> 00:01:34,659 safe, resume our normal lives. 40 00:01:34,703 --> 00:01:37,445 - Well, I think the most important thing... 41 00:01:37,488 --> 00:01:39,142 - Molly. - Is this family 42 00:01:39,186 --> 00:01:40,752 to get back to normal, so... 43 00:01:40,796 --> 00:01:41,797 Excuse us. 44 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,581 - If you ever wanna talk-- 45 00:01:43,625 --> 00:01:45,279 - Thank you, but I'm fine. 46 00:01:46,628 --> 00:01:48,282 Tell your father I need to use the ladies'. 47 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:50,501 I'll meet you at the car. 48 00:01:50,545 --> 00:01:52,416 - Sam... 49 00:01:56,942 --> 00:01:58,422 - I know what you're going to say, 50 00:01:58,466 --> 00:02:00,120 and you're wasting your time-- 51 00:02:00,163 --> 00:02:01,686 - You don't have to go home with your husband. 52 00:02:01,730 --> 00:02:03,210 - And you said it anyway. - We can open a case 53 00:02:03,253 --> 00:02:05,429 with Child Protective Services. 54 00:02:06,822 --> 00:02:08,824 - Get Sam out of the house, protect him. 55 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:11,131 That's been your instinct. 56 00:02:11,174 --> 00:02:13,437 - The best way I can keep Sam safe 57 00:02:13,481 --> 00:02:14,699 is to stay with him. 58 00:02:14,743 --> 00:02:18,268 You can't watch him 24/7. 59 00:02:18,312 --> 00:02:19,748 - John knows he crossed a line-- 60 00:02:21,228 --> 00:02:22,881 Molly, he raped your son. 61 00:02:22,925 --> 00:02:24,405 - And a jury found him not guilty. 62 00:02:24,448 --> 00:02:26,189 Maybe I didn't see what I thought I saw. 63 00:02:26,233 --> 00:02:27,669 - Oh--Stop, stop, stop. 64 00:02:27,712 --> 00:02:29,540 - All John ever wanted was to keep us safe. 65 00:02:29,584 --> 00:02:31,368 Me, Brian, Sam. 66 00:02:32,848 --> 00:02:35,720 You believe him over what you know? As a mother-- 67 00:02:35,764 --> 00:02:37,592 - I have to! I am choosing to! 68 00:02:37,635 --> 00:02:40,334 Because, the alternative-- court hearings, 69 00:02:40,377 --> 00:02:42,901 legal and emotional battles for months, years-- 70 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:44,207 that doesn't sound like what's best 71 00:02:44,251 --> 00:02:45,556 for Sam, or my family. 72 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,167 - Promise me, at the very least-- 73 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:49,952 at the very least, you'll get Sam counseling. 74 00:02:49,995 --> 00:02:54,652 And for Brian, and for yourself, Molly. 75 00:02:54,696 --> 00:02:57,699 - We don't need your help. 76 00:02:59,918 --> 00:03:02,791 we don't ever need to speak again. Excuse me. 77 00:03:11,669 --> 00:03:12,670 Sam! 78 00:03:14,281 --> 00:03:15,978 - It's 6:30, honey. It's time to get up. 79 00:03:19,286 --> 00:03:20,896 You don't have to go to school today 80 00:03:20,939 --> 00:03:22,332 if you don't want to. 81 00:03:22,376 --> 00:03:25,248 - I want to...and Dad said that I-- 82 00:03:25,292 --> 00:03:27,337 - Oh...oh. 83 00:03:27,381 --> 00:03:29,731 You sure you're not coming down with something? 84 00:03:29,774 --> 00:03:31,994 You're a little warm. 85 00:03:32,037 --> 00:03:35,258 - Yeah, maybe so. 86 00:03:42,483 --> 00:03:46,791 You know what? Um... I think I feel fine. 87 00:03:50,882 --> 00:03:52,710 I want to go to school. 88 00:03:54,669 --> 00:03:57,280 - So, you got baseball practice today. 89 00:03:57,324 --> 00:03:58,890 - Riverside Park. 90 00:03:58,934 --> 00:04:01,850 Bus leaves at 3:15, should be back to school by 6. 91 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:04,505 - How about I pick you boys up after? 92 00:04:04,548 --> 00:04:05,897 We can go to Shake Shack. 93 00:04:05,941 --> 00:04:09,031 - Molly, they're teenagers, not toddlers. 94 00:04:09,074 --> 00:04:11,773 - We can take the subway. Right, Sam? 95 00:04:11,816 --> 00:04:13,731 - Yeah. - Okay. 96 00:04:13,775 --> 00:04:15,690 - Next game is St. Andrews. 97 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:17,344 They're hitting 275. 98 00:04:20,347 --> 00:04:21,478 I'm sorry. 99 00:04:21,522 --> 00:04:23,741 - It's okay, son. It's okay. 100 00:04:27,528 --> 00:04:34,535 ♪ 101 00:04:39,366 --> 00:04:41,063 - Keep your head down, don't talk to anyone. 102 00:04:41,106 --> 00:04:43,283 If somebody says something, text me. 103 00:04:43,326 --> 00:04:44,936 - We're not supposed to have our phones outside of our lockers. 104 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:47,330 - You really think anyone's gonna give a rat's ass 105 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:48,636 if you have your phone in your pocket? 106 00:04:48,679 --> 00:04:50,333 Jesus, Sam. 107 00:04:52,988 --> 00:04:54,816 Hey! I'm not gonna let anything bad 108 00:04:54,859 --> 00:04:56,557 happen to you ever again, okay? 109 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,734 Okay? I got this. We're family. 110 00:05:02,780 --> 00:05:05,000 Catch you on the other side, brother. 111 00:05:07,394 --> 00:05:09,657 What's up, guys? 112 00:05:13,356 --> 00:05:20,363 ♪ 113 00:05:37,728 --> 00:05:41,036 - Sam! Sam! 114 00:05:54,963 --> 00:06:01,926 ♪ 115 00:06:08,716 --> 00:06:15,723 ♪ 116 00:06:23,644 --> 00:06:27,169 [screaming and commotion] 117 00:06:33,131 --> 00:06:40,182 ♪ 118 00:07:17,045 --> 00:07:17,262 . 119 00:07:20,962 --> 00:07:22,485 - Do we know what we're looking at? 120 00:07:22,529 --> 00:07:23,834 - Single shooter. White male. 121 00:07:23,878 --> 00:07:25,183 Semi-automatic hunting rifle. 122 00:07:26,707 --> 00:07:27,838 - As far as we know, but we haven't 123 00:07:27,882 --> 00:07:29,187 apprehended a suspect yet. 124 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:31,886 - Half a dozen, at least. 125 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:34,018 I get why you're here, Lieutenant. 126 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:36,064 - I'm here to help. 127 00:07:36,107 --> 00:07:38,109 - We'll keep you posted. 128 00:07:38,153 --> 00:07:40,938 - This--this is Mrs. Chaster. She's the principal. 129 00:07:40,982 --> 00:07:43,114 - Principal Chaster-- Lieutenant Benson, SVU. 130 00:07:43,158 --> 00:07:44,812 Did you see the shooter? 131 00:07:44,855 --> 00:07:46,683 - I couldn't stop it. He just kept shooting, 132 00:07:46,727 --> 00:07:48,772 this dead look in his eye! 133 00:07:48,816 --> 00:07:50,687 - Sam Conway! 134 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:54,952 Do you know where he is? 135 00:07:54,996 --> 00:07:56,127 - I don't know. I told the police. 136 00:07:56,171 --> 00:07:57,520 - Okay, well, what about Brian? 137 00:07:57,564 --> 00:07:59,827 - Brian--I saw Brian. 138 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:01,481 I passed him in the hallway. 139 00:08:01,524 --> 00:08:03,134 - He's all right, I think-- 140 00:08:03,178 --> 00:08:04,832 I don't know! - Okay, it's okay. 141 00:08:06,834 --> 00:08:08,531 - I got this. 142 00:08:13,971 --> 00:08:15,625 - I don't know where Sam is, I swear to God-- 143 00:08:15,669 --> 00:08:17,801 I've been telling police that! He must be inside! 144 00:08:17,845 --> 00:08:21,152 - He's not. We recovered the rifle--no sign of Sam. 145 00:08:21,196 --> 00:08:22,719 - He must have gotten out in the crowd. 146 00:08:22,763 --> 00:08:23,981 Now listen; all right, he's not at your house. 147 00:08:24,025 --> 00:08:25,548 He's not at your father's work. 148 00:08:25,592 --> 00:08:26,941 Is there any other place that you can think of 149 00:08:26,984 --> 00:08:28,246 that Sam might have gone? - I don't know. 150 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:30,161 None of this makes any sense. 151 00:08:30,205 --> 00:08:32,033 - God, no! 152 00:08:32,076 --> 00:08:34,035 I just sat down at my desk--home room. 153 00:08:34,078 --> 00:08:38,169 And there was this noise... pop, pop--it sounded like 154 00:08:38,213 --> 00:08:39,736 someone brought firecrackers to school. 155 00:08:39,780 --> 00:08:41,303 And then you heard the screams. 156 00:08:41,346 --> 00:08:43,610 - All right--Brian, Brian, look, what happened then? 157 00:08:43,653 --> 00:08:44,828 What happened then? 158 00:08:44,872 --> 00:08:48,005 - Everyone just-- just froze. 159 00:08:48,049 --> 00:08:50,138 The teacher was yelling for us to get down, 160 00:08:50,181 --> 00:08:54,272 there was more shots, more screams--it was horrible. 161 00:08:55,709 --> 00:08:58,015 There Sam was, standing in the doorway 162 00:08:58,059 --> 00:08:59,626 with a .22 in his hand. 163 00:09:01,018 --> 00:09:03,281 - I ran up to him, I said, 164 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:05,936 "Sam, what the hell are you doing? Just stop it!" 165 00:09:07,068 --> 00:09:09,853 He pointed the barrel at me, he said, 166 00:09:09,897 --> 00:09:12,160 "Are you happy now?" 167 00:09:13,770 --> 00:09:17,687 - No. No, he squinted, he said, 168 00:09:17,731 --> 00:09:20,647 "I need to concentrate. You don't concentrate, 169 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:22,170 you lose the game." 170 00:09:22,213 --> 00:09:23,911 Then he dropped the rifle, walked out. 171 00:09:23,954 --> 00:09:27,088 - Okay. Brian, I want you to sit tight, all right? 172 00:09:27,131 --> 00:09:28,611 - Where are you going? 173 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:29,917 - I think I know where Sam is. 174 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,571 - Tell the ESU-- - No! He makes one 175 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:33,181 wrong move they're gonna kill him, Fin. 176 00:09:33,224 --> 00:09:35,270 - Maybe they should. 177 00:09:38,752 --> 00:09:45,759 ♪ 178 00:09:52,766 --> 00:09:54,115 - Hey, Sam, it's Detective Carisi. 179 00:09:54,158 --> 00:09:55,899 Put your hands where I can see them! 180 00:09:55,943 --> 00:09:56,900 - Go away! 181 00:09:56,944 --> 00:09:57,945 - I can't do that! 182 00:09:57,988 --> 00:09:59,381 - Just let me die. 183 00:09:59,424 --> 00:10:01,296 - I can't do that either, Sam. 184 00:10:02,776 --> 00:10:04,299 Now come on, let's put that gun down. 185 00:10:04,342 --> 00:10:07,737 - No! Why should I be able to play baseball, huh? 186 00:10:07,781 --> 00:10:10,610 Or eat chocolate-chip waffles, or kiss a girl. 187 00:10:10,653 --> 00:10:12,263 Or go to college-- I don't deserve that! 188 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:13,787 I deserve to die! 189 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:17,225 - Okay, listen. I'm gonna put my gun down. 190 00:10:17,268 --> 00:10:19,140 All right, you say you deserve to die, maybe you do. 191 00:10:19,183 --> 00:10:21,403 But killing yourself is not justice 192 00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:23,100 for what you just did, Sam. 193 00:10:23,144 --> 00:10:25,668 That is taking the easy way out. 194 00:10:25,712 --> 00:10:27,017 Do you understand me? 195 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:29,759 - No. No, I should die. I shot my friends. 196 00:10:29,803 --> 00:10:32,109 - No, no, no--whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Hold on! 197 00:10:32,153 --> 00:10:34,808 Hold on! Answer one question for me then, okay? 198 00:10:34,851 --> 00:10:37,027 Because all this baffles me. I mean, I can understand 199 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:39,290 if you shot your dad, if you shot your brother-- 200 00:10:39,334 --> 00:10:40,683 - It wasn't their fault! 201 00:10:40,727 --> 00:10:41,771 - It wasn't their fault, but it was 202 00:10:41,815 --> 00:10:43,207 the kids at school's fault? 203 00:10:45,819 --> 00:10:47,298 - No. 204 00:10:47,342 --> 00:10:49,736 I guess there's only one person left, Sam. 205 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:51,868 I guess this is all on you. 206 00:10:51,912 --> 00:10:54,871 Hey! Maybe you're right. Why don't you go ahead? 207 00:10:54,915 --> 00:10:58,309 Kill yourself, take responsibility for your actions. 208 00:10:58,353 --> 00:11:00,007 It's gonna destroy your dad, 209 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:01,443 but, hell, it's gotta be easier than facing him, 210 00:11:01,486 --> 00:11:03,358 the state that he is in right now, Sam. 211 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:08,406 You talked to him? 212 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:09,930 - Yeah, yeah, I talked to him, 213 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:10,974 and he's worried about you, Sam. 214 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:12,889 He's worried sick. 215 00:11:12,933 --> 00:11:15,326 But hey! Go ahead. Kill yourself. 216 00:11:15,370 --> 00:11:17,720 Then he's gonna know how much you really hate him. 217 00:11:17,764 --> 00:11:20,157 - I don't--No, I don't hate him, I love him. 218 00:11:20,201 --> 00:11:21,724 All right, well, then maybe you wanna 219 00:11:21,768 --> 00:11:23,117 tell him that yourself, huh? 220 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,470 Maybe he wants to tell you that, Sam. 221 00:11:29,863 --> 00:11:33,257 Yeah--see, that's the thing about dads-- 222 00:11:33,301 --> 00:11:36,217 no matter how bad you screw up, they still love you. 223 00:11:38,045 --> 00:11:39,437 - I should have-- 224 00:11:39,481 --> 00:11:41,701 I-I should-- 225 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:44,225 - I should have just shot the rabbit! 226 00:11:44,268 --> 00:11:46,357 I should have just shot the rabbit! 227 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:53,451 . 228 00:11:53,495 --> 00:11:55,627 - There's two DOA. 229 00:11:55,671 --> 00:11:58,108 Heather Lewis, 16, Justin Cruz, 17. 230 00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:00,632 Five gunshot victims. Four were students, 231 00:12:00,676 --> 00:12:03,113 one critical, and one was a teacher. 232 00:12:03,157 --> 00:12:04,767 - Sam Conway's in custody? 233 00:12:04,811 --> 00:12:07,552 - Yes, with his mother, waiting for the father and a lawyer. 234 00:12:07,596 --> 00:12:10,207 - Good. I don't want any statements thrown out later. 235 00:12:10,251 --> 00:12:14,298 - The weapon was a Remington .22 semi-automatic rifle. 236 00:12:14,342 --> 00:12:16,474 CSU found six bullets at the scene. 237 00:12:16,518 --> 00:12:19,521 - Plus the seven victims, this gun holds at least 15 rounds. 238 00:12:19,564 --> 00:12:21,218 He only fired 13 times? 239 00:12:21,262 --> 00:12:23,177 - He's a lousy shot. It could have been worse. 240 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:24,656 - Well, it was bad enough. 241 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,442 - He was also carrying a Smith & Wesson 9C. 242 00:12:27,485 --> 00:12:29,836 Never fired. Both guns are legal 243 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:31,446 and registered to the father. 244 00:12:31,489 --> 00:12:32,795 - And the mother swears that both guns 245 00:12:32,839 --> 00:12:34,231 were in a locked safe. 246 00:12:34,275 --> 00:12:35,363 - Well, even if that's true, the kid 247 00:12:35,406 --> 00:12:36,625 figured out the combination. 248 00:12:36,668 --> 00:12:38,235 All right, what about the victims? 249 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:39,802 Were they targeted? - Not that we know of. 250 00:12:39,846 --> 00:12:41,804 The only one that he had a specific relationship 251 00:12:41,848 --> 00:12:43,501 was Gillian Wray. 252 00:12:43,545 --> 00:12:45,503 - It's not about that. 253 00:12:45,547 --> 00:12:47,418 - Witnesses say he wasn't aiming at anyone, 254 00:12:47,462 --> 00:12:48,680 just firing at random. 255 00:12:49,856 --> 00:12:51,596 - Bringing a hunting rifle to school-- 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,642 This is about the father. 257 00:12:53,685 --> 00:12:54,817 - Excuse me. Excuse me! 258 00:12:54,861 --> 00:12:56,471 I need to see my son. 259 00:12:56,514 --> 00:12:57,820 - Mr. Conway. 260 00:12:57,864 --> 00:12:59,691 - I wanna see my son. Where is he? 261 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:01,519 What are you doing here, Stone? 262 00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:03,521 Can't wait to lock Sam up too? 263 00:13:03,565 --> 00:13:04,914 - We will be arraigning him. 264 00:13:04,958 --> 00:13:06,786 Whether he is remanded is up to the Judge-- 265 00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:08,309 - Your wife and your son are in interrogation one. 266 00:13:08,352 --> 00:13:09,527 This way. 267 00:13:09,571 --> 00:13:10,746 - Anything he said without the presence 268 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:12,226 of his lawyer is inadmissible. 269 00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:13,575 - He already confessed. 270 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:15,882 Plus, we have dozens of eye-witnesses. 271 00:13:18,362 --> 00:13:19,624 - Sam's lawyer is here. 272 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:21,975 - Let's go, Sam. 273 00:13:22,018 --> 00:13:23,715 - I want to go with him. 274 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:25,413 - I'm sorry, that's not possible, Mrs. Conway. 275 00:13:25,456 --> 00:13:28,372 - Please. Please, please. - Dad, I'm so sorry-- 276 00:13:28,416 --> 00:13:30,505 What did you do? 277 00:13:30,548 --> 00:13:32,724 You son of a bitch! This is your fault! 278 00:13:32,768 --> 00:13:34,683 Putting sick ideas in my boy's head! 279 00:13:34,726 --> 00:13:38,600 - Please escort Mr. Conway out of my squad room. Now! 280 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:47,870 ♪ 281 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:50,351 - Reactions to the tragedy on social media 282 00:13:50,394 --> 00:13:53,528 have been overwhelming-- outpourings of support 283 00:13:53,571 --> 00:13:55,747 for the two victims who lost their lives, 284 00:13:55,791 --> 00:13:59,926 16-year-old Heather Lewis and 17-year-old Justin Cruz. 285 00:14:04,974 --> 00:14:07,847 - Carmen and I go way back. 286 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:10,893 - I'd fire her if she wasn't the best assistant I ever had. 287 00:14:10,937 --> 00:14:13,635 - People screaming and just running 288 00:14:13,678 --> 00:14:16,464 and just panic everywhere. 289 00:14:18,553 --> 00:14:20,772 - Somebody has to. 290 00:14:20,816 --> 00:14:22,949 - You heard people screaming. I was-- 291 00:14:22,992 --> 00:14:25,821 - I might actually have to take this kid to trial. 292 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:28,389 He pleaded not guilty. 293 00:14:28,432 --> 00:14:29,956 - I heard. 294 00:14:29,999 --> 00:14:32,784 Remanded to Horizon Juvenile. 295 00:14:32,828 --> 00:14:35,439 - Suicide watch. 296 00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:37,659 You see, their lawyer will get a shrink, 297 00:14:37,702 --> 00:14:39,443 and then we--we will get a shrink also. 298 00:14:39,487 --> 00:14:40,836 And then, round and round we'll go. 299 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,707 Ring around the goddamn rosie-- 300 00:14:42,751 --> 00:14:44,579 - Peter, this is not your fault. 301 00:14:44,622 --> 00:14:46,755 - I made the decision to cross-examine him. 302 00:14:46,798 --> 00:14:50,019 I could have stood up, and said, "No questions, Your Honor." 303 00:14:52,021 --> 00:14:54,545 I could have looked in that boy's eyes 304 00:14:54,589 --> 00:14:58,680 and seen how fragile he was, and damaged. 305 00:14:58,723 --> 00:15:00,856 I should have seen past the brave face, 306 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,858 thought about sparing his soul any more pain, 307 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,294 instead of winning my case-- 308 00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:08,951 - Peter. You were trying to save him. 309 00:15:08,995 --> 00:15:11,040 - I didn't have to cross-examine him. 310 00:15:11,084 --> 00:15:15,784 - Yes, you did. His father raped him, for God sakes. 311 00:15:15,827 --> 00:15:17,351 - And then I raped him 312 00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:19,831 all over again up on that witness stand. 313 00:15:27,448 --> 00:15:30,538 - You know, aside from not sleeping. 314 00:15:38,546 --> 00:15:39,982 You worry about your kid getting sick 315 00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:45,553 or breaking a bone or, God forbid, getting hit by a taxi. 316 00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:48,773 And then it's like you're... holding your breath 317 00:15:48,817 --> 00:15:52,690 underwater, every day. 318 00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:54,388 Then you, uh... 319 00:15:56,956 --> 00:16:00,394 You get to tuck them in and kiss them good night. 320 00:16:01,090 --> 00:16:03,571 You get to breathe out again. 321 00:16:05,921 --> 00:16:09,707 But this... this, you can't... 322 00:16:09,751 --> 00:16:11,492 you can't imagine that-- 323 00:16:11,535 --> 00:16:15,104 - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, it's all right. 324 00:16:19,630 --> 00:16:23,025 Crazy...I'm-- 325 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,896 - It's all right, it's all right. 326 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:26,768 You can tell me, it's okay. 327 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,119 - SVU. 328 00:16:30,163 --> 00:16:31,903 You here to see the State Psych for Sam Conway? 329 00:16:31,947 --> 00:16:33,688 - Uh--yeah. 330 00:16:39,476 --> 00:16:40,912 - Lisa Abernathy. 331 00:16:40,956 --> 00:16:43,872 - Detective Carisi. What happened to Dr. Olivet? 332 00:16:43,915 --> 00:16:46,744 She's at a wedding in Tuscany. 333 00:16:46,788 --> 00:16:50,444 I'm filling in. Am I interrupting something? 334 00:16:50,487 --> 00:16:51,575 - No. - No. 335 00:16:51,619 --> 00:16:55,014 - Good. Let's talk about Sam. 336 00:16:57,886 --> 00:16:59,888 Do you have any questions you wanna ask me? 337 00:16:59,931 --> 00:17:03,065 We can start with some easy ones 338 00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:05,676 like my favorite color or my favorite song 339 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,722 or my favorite vegetable-- although, 340 00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:09,028 I don't have a favorite veg-- 341 00:17:12,118 --> 00:17:15,947 - Yeah. Because if you... if you do have kids, 342 00:17:15,991 --> 00:17:17,775 then I know you already hate me, 343 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:18,950 so this is a waste of time. 344 00:17:18,994 --> 00:17:20,778 - I don't hate you, Sam. 345 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:26,480 - My wife and I have a boy and a girl. 346 00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:33,095 - You know, my dad-- he told everyone 347 00:17:33,139 --> 00:17:35,576 that I was gay, but I'm not. 348 00:17:36,838 --> 00:17:38,100 Do you wanna talk about him? 349 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:40,537 - He's a good dad. 350 00:17:40,581 --> 00:17:43,627 - Okay, let's talk about that. 351 00:17:43,671 --> 00:17:46,021 - He looks out for us. 352 00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:49,633 He's done that ever since we were little. 353 00:17:51,983 --> 00:17:57,119 - I remember, I was four maybe... 354 00:17:57,163 --> 00:18:02,124 and I was trying to stick one of my little soldiers' swords 355 00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:04,866 in the electric socket. 356 00:18:05,867 --> 00:18:08,174 And Dad found out. 357 00:18:09,784 --> 00:18:14,832 He wasn't angry, but he was serious. 358 00:18:14,876 --> 00:18:18,836 And he told me, he said... 359 00:18:20,751 --> 00:18:24,842 He said, "This is gonna hurt me more than you. 360 00:18:24,886 --> 00:18:27,932 But I never want you to forget." 361 00:18:27,976 --> 00:18:32,154 And then, he told me to... 362 00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:35,679 pull my shorts down, 363 00:18:35,723 --> 00:18:39,074 and lay on the bed, and I can... 364 00:18:40,162 --> 00:18:44,166 I can hear his belt 365 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:46,690 coming off... 366 00:18:47,778 --> 00:18:48,736 Son of a-- 367 00:18:48,779 --> 00:18:50,694 - It's okay. 368 00:18:51,913 --> 00:18:54,002 - And he hit me. 369 00:18:55,308 --> 00:18:59,834 And it hurt so bad, you know? 370 00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:01,662 And I was crying. 371 00:19:03,838 --> 00:19:08,103 But I never forgot. I never forgot. 372 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:11,889 And I never tried to play with that... 373 00:19:11,933 --> 00:19:14,153 electric outlet ever again. 374 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:20,898 - My clinical evaluation is Sam is not legally insane. 375 00:19:20,942 --> 00:19:23,118 He wasn't insane during the time of the shooting. 376 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,207 He knew that firing the gun was wrong. 377 00:19:25,251 --> 00:19:28,254 He knew the consequences. He has remorse. 378 00:19:28,297 --> 00:19:30,081 - Two kids are still dead. 379 00:19:31,996 --> 00:19:34,129 - I mean, in a round-about way. 380 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,913 I mean, this is not rocket science. 381 00:19:35,957 --> 00:19:38,089 He grew up in a household with a very traditional 382 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:41,092 view of masculinity-- taken to the extreme. 383 00:19:41,136 --> 00:19:42,572 Like a toxicity. 384 00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:44,748 - To be a man, you have to kill animals, 385 00:19:44,792 --> 00:19:46,620 Win ball games, you don't cry, 386 00:19:46,663 --> 00:19:48,099 you tough out whatever comes your way. 387 00:19:48,143 --> 00:19:50,754 - Even your own father, sexually assaulting you. 388 00:19:50,798 --> 00:19:54,105 - Thank you, Doctor. You'll testify, if need be? 389 00:19:54,149 --> 00:19:57,718 - Yes. But I hope need won't be. 390 00:19:57,761 --> 00:20:00,242 This boy is on the verge of a collapse. 391 00:20:06,117 --> 00:20:07,771 - A lot of kids are assaulted, 392 00:20:07,815 --> 00:20:09,773 abused, and humiliated. They don't shoot up 393 00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:11,253 schools and murder other kids. 394 00:20:11,297 --> 00:20:12,776 - I hear you, Detective. 395 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:14,735 - Mr. Stone, the Conways are here. 396 00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:16,606 - Thank you. 397 00:20:16,650 --> 00:20:18,913 What can we do for you? 398 00:20:20,828 --> 00:20:23,613 - We, um...wanted to tell you in person-- 399 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:26,137 Sam will plead guilty. 400 00:20:27,922 --> 00:20:32,753 - Going to trial would be a--would be wrong. 401 00:20:32,796 --> 00:20:36,278 For everybody. No more lawyers, no more excuses. 402 00:20:36,322 --> 00:20:38,976 Whatever you think of me, 403 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:41,979 I take responsibility for my son's actions. 404 00:20:42,023 --> 00:20:45,156 - We do. We both do. 405 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,029 - More importantly, Sam does. 406 00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:50,031 As a family, we've decided 407 00:20:50,074 --> 00:20:52,120 we can't put anyone through anymore pain. 408 00:20:52,163 --> 00:20:54,992 You know--the parents, the students. 409 00:20:55,036 --> 00:20:56,342 - And Sam. 410 00:20:56,385 --> 00:20:57,995 And Brian. 411 00:20:58,039 --> 00:20:59,301 - Okay. 412 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,912 I'll call the D.A. and the judge. 413 00:21:01,956 --> 00:21:04,350 Sam will have to plead in open court. 414 00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:06,221 - How long will he be in prison? 415 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,441 - He'll likely be charged as an adult. 416 00:21:08,484 --> 00:21:10,225 The time will be substantial. 417 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:16,449 - Thank you. 418 00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:33,814 - Okay, then. I can let the victims' families know? 419 00:21:33,857 --> 00:21:35,119 - Yeah. 420 00:21:40,386 --> 00:21:41,952 It's over? 421 00:21:43,084 --> 00:21:45,347 Sam goes to prison, probably for life. 422 00:21:45,391 --> 00:21:47,741 I get that. He deserves it. 423 00:21:47,784 --> 00:21:50,265 But the father-- 424 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:52,398 the father just gets to walk away? 425 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,053 - No. This isn't over. 426 00:21:56,097 --> 00:21:58,012 Not by a long shot. 427 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:03,322 ♪ 428 00:22:07,195 --> 00:22:09,458 . 429 00:22:09,502 --> 00:22:11,852 - Hey, Sam. 430 00:22:11,895 --> 00:22:15,290 - Look, I'm pleading guilty. What more do you want from me? 431 00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:21,383 Just want to hear for myself 432 00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:22,732 that you're okay with all this-- 433 00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:24,386 firing your lawyer, and taking a plea-- 434 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:25,605 - I am. 435 00:22:27,302 --> 00:22:28,695 - You're gonna go to prison, Sam. 436 00:22:28,738 --> 00:22:30,305 And there's a good chance 437 00:22:30,349 --> 00:22:31,698 it'll be for the rest of your life. 438 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:33,439 - Well, what do you want me to do? You want me to 439 00:22:33,482 --> 00:22:35,528 try to get away with it? Plead not guilty? 440 00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:37,573 - I can't tell you what I think you should do. 441 00:22:37,617 --> 00:22:38,705 That's not how it works. 442 00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:40,228 - Well, it's my decision. 443 00:22:40,271 --> 00:22:41,751 - No! 444 00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:46,626 So...can you please leave me alone, now? 445 00:22:47,757 --> 00:22:49,846 - Okay. 446 00:22:54,285 --> 00:22:55,635 - Heather Lewis. 447 00:23:00,161 --> 00:23:02,163 I went to a party at her house once. 448 00:23:03,904 --> 00:23:06,428 She played Rihanna like the whole night. 449 00:23:10,563 --> 00:23:14,610 Justin Cruz, um... 450 00:23:14,654 --> 00:23:16,786 I didn't really know him, but... 451 00:23:18,701 --> 00:23:23,837 Apparently he was like, a math genius, I guess. 452 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:32,193 And he had a little sister. 453 00:23:34,848 --> 00:23:36,763 She's only five. 454 00:23:46,294 --> 00:23:47,687 My mom went to the funerals, 455 00:23:47,730 --> 00:23:49,732 and she said no one even looked at her. 456 00:23:56,609 --> 00:23:58,741 - I'm sorry, Sam. 457 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:02,832 Don't you know only pussies apologize? 458 00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:04,399 - No, I didn't know that. - Look, I didn't even 459 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:05,835 wanna go to school that day. 460 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:08,882 All right? I kept saying, "I'm sorry, but I can't." 461 00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:11,493 And he just said, "No apologies, no regrets. 462 00:24:11,537 --> 00:24:13,495 That a man looks at the future, not the past." 463 00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:15,497 - What else did your dad say, Sam? 464 00:24:15,541 --> 00:24:18,544 - He said, "I don't even know why I bothered." 465 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,852 - I guess I was a waste of his time. 466 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,680 Because it didn't work. 467 00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:26,900 - Is that when you put that rifle in your baseball bag? 468 00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,510 We only get 469 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:29,903 30 minutes a day outside. 470 00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:40,304 Yeah, whatever you need. 471 00:24:40,348 --> 00:24:41,697 Okay, let me know. 472 00:24:41,741 --> 00:24:43,830 Guys, Stone thinks that there's a way 473 00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:45,875 that he can go after John Conway. 474 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:56,407 - I visit Sam every day. My one hour. 475 00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:59,410 - How's John dealing with all of this? 476 00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:02,544 - Like he always does, stiff upper lip. 477 00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:03,980 That's what his father taught him. 478 00:25:05,939 --> 00:25:07,854 What he tried to teach Sam? 479 00:25:07,897 --> 00:25:09,464 - Molly... 480 00:25:11,858 --> 00:25:15,688 We think your husband should be prosecuted. 481 00:25:15,731 --> 00:25:18,038 - Didn't you try that already? 482 00:25:18,081 --> 00:25:20,257 - We believe he should be prosecuted for the shooting. 483 00:25:20,301 --> 00:25:22,695 - I told you, the guns were locked up-- 484 00:25:22,738 --> 00:25:24,305 - It's not about the guns. 485 00:25:25,567 --> 00:25:28,004 But for creating an environment 486 00:25:28,048 --> 00:25:31,355 where Sam believed 487 00:25:31,399 --> 00:25:35,272 that shooting made him a man. 488 00:25:36,796 --> 00:25:38,928 Sam? 489 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:40,582 Those dead teenagers? 490 00:25:42,453 --> 00:25:45,021 He's 17 years old. 491 00:25:45,065 --> 00:25:47,676 - I can't help anyone anymore! 492 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,853 Not Brian. Not Sam. 493 00:25:50,897 --> 00:25:53,595 This happened because I went against my husband. 494 00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,075 I testified about what he did to Sam! 495 00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:56,598 If I hadn't done that, 496 00:25:56,642 --> 00:25:59,775 none of this would have-- 497 00:26:04,737 --> 00:26:08,610 If just made Sam stay home from school-- 498 00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:10,612 why didn't I keep him home from school? 499 00:26:10,656 --> 00:26:12,614 Home with me. 500 00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:20,927 All my husband ever wanted was for his boys to become men! 501 00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:27,411 - My dad is a great father, and I'll tell you what, 502 00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:31,502 he would never--he was so messed up about what Sam did. 503 00:26:31,546 --> 00:26:34,549 - Sam shot his classmates and aimed a gun at you. 504 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:35,724 Why would he do that? 505 00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:39,554 I don't know! 506 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:41,643 - Yes, you do. Sam wanted to prove to your dad 507 00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:43,602 that he could shoot. - This isn't about that rabbit, 508 00:26:43,645 --> 00:26:46,430 okay, that stupid rabbit-- - No, it's about how your dad 509 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:48,737 made Sam feel-- ashamed, humiliated-- 510 00:26:48,781 --> 00:26:51,392 how he punished your brother. I know you're not stupid. 511 00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:52,872 I know you know what was going on. 512 00:26:52,915 --> 00:26:54,743 - Both of us growing up-- me and Sam, 513 00:26:54,787 --> 00:26:56,832 my father treated us exactly the same, 514 00:26:56,876 --> 00:26:59,139 raised us the same way, and I never went and-- 515 00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:03,491 - Just because you took it better, 516 00:27:03,534 --> 00:27:05,536 okay, that makes what your dad did right? 517 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,627 - You're saying this is my dad's fault? 518 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,629 Then it's my fault, too. 519 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,718 I was there in the woods. I was there with Sam 520 00:27:12,761 --> 00:27:14,981 right before he walked into school. 521 00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:16,635 I should have figured it out! 522 00:27:16,678 --> 00:27:17,853 - No, this is not your fault, Brian. 523 00:27:17,897 --> 00:27:20,029 You're just a kid, okay? 524 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:22,597 - My life... 525 00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:25,469 my life is over. 526 00:27:25,513 --> 00:27:27,907 My friends are dead, my mother's a mess, 527 00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:30,953 and my brother's locked up forever. 528 00:27:34,522 --> 00:27:36,176 This is because of you. 529 00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:39,440 You want someone to blame 530 00:27:39,483 --> 00:27:42,704 Blame yourselves! Blame yourselves! 531 00:27:49,537 --> 00:27:51,713 - There's no way that Molly Conway 532 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:54,063 is gonna testify against her husband. 533 00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:55,761 - I can subpoena her. 534 00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:58,720 - And she will lie. Look, she's had enough, Peter. 535 00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:01,723 And, in my heart of hearts, I gotta tell ya--I understand. 536 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:04,421 - He's already lost his brother. 537 00:28:04,465 --> 00:28:05,771 He doesn't wanna lose his dad, too. 538 00:28:05,814 --> 00:28:07,424 - We've got the shrink, the principal, 539 00:28:07,468 --> 00:28:09,557 two of Sam's friends, none of which make the case. 540 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,037 - And that leaves Sam. 541 00:28:13,126 --> 00:28:15,084 - Who's on suicide watch. 542 00:28:15,128 --> 00:28:18,653 - So much for fighting the war we can't win. 543 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,046 - The last time he testified-- 544 00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:22,004 - Isn't this time. 545 00:28:22,048 --> 00:28:24,093 Children are dead, Peter. 546 00:28:24,137 --> 00:28:27,009 Two sets of parents are mourning a dead child. 547 00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:28,619 - And Sam's in prison for it. 548 00:28:28,663 --> 00:28:30,099 - We already lost Sam, Peter. 549 00:28:30,143 --> 00:28:32,232 This is about the next Sam Conway. 550 00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:46,768 - John Conway, 551 00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:48,770 put that gun down and step away. 552 00:28:49,945 --> 00:28:51,947 - When are you gonna leave my family alone? 553 00:28:51,991 --> 00:28:53,732 My son's taking a plea. 554 00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:56,125 - We're not here about your son, we're here for you. 555 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:58,824 - Put your hands behind you back--you're under arrest. 556 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:01,217 - Murder. 557 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:06,222 . 558 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:08,485 - You have got to be kidding me. 559 00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,139 My wife's yoga pants don't stretch this much. 560 00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:11,662 - I'm just following the statute, Mr. Karey. 561 00:29:11,706 --> 00:29:14,317 My guns were locked up. 562 00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:15,579 - But your son wasn't. 563 00:29:15,623 --> 00:29:17,190 - What the hell is he talking about? 564 00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:18,582 - Think of it this way, Mr. Conway: 565 00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:20,628 pit bulls are actually very good pets. 566 00:29:20,671 --> 00:29:22,673 It's their owners that turn them into killers. 567 00:29:22,717 --> 00:29:24,284 - You think I made Sam 568 00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:26,242 walk into that school and start shooting? 569 00:29:26,286 --> 00:29:28,244 - I think that, A, you failed to perceive 570 00:29:28,288 --> 00:29:30,290 a substantial and unjustifiable risk 571 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,596 that he would harm others. And B, such a failure 572 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,947 constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care 573 00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:36,470 that a reasonable person would observe, 574 00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:38,124 under the circumstances. 575 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,516 You put them together, and what have you got? 576 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,171 C--criminally negligent homicide. 577 00:29:42,215 --> 00:29:44,608 - Is he saying I didn't bring my boy up right? 578 00:29:44,652 --> 00:29:46,697 - It's a snowflake defense, Johnny. 579 00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,003 "Daddy made me do it." 580 00:29:48,047 --> 00:29:50,136 Come on. 581 00:29:51,485 --> 00:29:53,313 I thought you were better than this. 582 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,323 - You know, I heard if you stare long enough, 583 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:06,456 a cheesecake will magically appear. 584 00:30:07,501 --> 00:30:09,285 - How long do I have to stare for a slice 585 00:30:09,329 --> 00:30:12,158 with strawberry topping to show up? 586 00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:21,471 - When we sat with Sam Conway, we talked to him. 587 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,038 We saw where he was brought up, 588 00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:24,344 how he was brought up. 589 00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:26,041 - Amanda, this is not our fault. 590 00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:27,956 - I'm just saying, under Stone's theory-- 591 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,785 - Yes, and we did not put guns in Sam Conway's apartment. 592 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,352 - He could have gotten a gun anywhere. 593 00:30:32,395 --> 00:30:34,049 He could have used a knife, a bomb-- 594 00:30:34,093 --> 00:30:35,616 - Please don't go all Second Amendment on me. 595 00:30:35,659 --> 00:30:38,314 - Okay, all right. I mean... 596 00:30:41,665 --> 00:30:43,363 - No, it's just in Georgia, you'd be the odd man out. 597 00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:45,974 - Yeah, and that wouldn't change my opinion. 598 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:47,410 - Just explain this to me. 599 00:30:47,454 --> 00:30:48,672 Why is Roe v. Wade sacrosanct 600 00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,196 and the Second Amendment disposable? 601 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:51,545 - Maybe because one kills. 602 00:30:51,588 --> 00:30:54,156 - In Georgia, they both do. 603 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,418 You know? 604 00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:57,551 Jesus, what is worse? 605 00:31:00,075 --> 00:31:04,210 I mean, to have your kid killed, or... 606 00:31:06,168 --> 00:31:08,475 Have your kid be the one that's killed somebody else. 607 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:11,043 Mm. 608 00:31:16,265 --> 00:31:19,616 - Amanda, you're... 609 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:21,314 you're not thinking of-- 610 00:31:22,663 --> 00:31:25,361 - I don't know if I need another baby. 611 00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:31,628 I don't know if I want another baby. 612 00:31:35,589 --> 00:31:38,809 All I know is, if I was back home, 613 00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:40,724 the choice would be a lot easier. 614 00:31:40,768 --> 00:31:43,075 There'd be no choice. 615 00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:46,252 - Give me your phone. 616 00:31:47,557 --> 00:31:49,429 - Just unlock it and give it to me. 617 00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:59,743 ♪ 618 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:07,273 - That's playing dirty. 619 00:32:07,316 --> 00:32:09,623 - I distinctly remember when you showed that to me. 620 00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:14,367 You told me that was the best moment of your life. 621 00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:20,895 This is your decision to make...alone, 622 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,419 and I will defend to the death 623 00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:25,117 your right to make it. 624 00:32:26,466 --> 00:32:29,643 But regret is-- 625 00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:34,604 An awful thing to live with. 626 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:40,610 You had an abortion? 627 00:32:58,324 --> 00:33:00,674 - I loved my boys the same. 628 00:33:00,717 --> 00:33:02,415 I treated them the same. 629 00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:04,808 - You were tough on both of them? 630 00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:07,115 - I was firm with them, when I had to be. 631 00:33:07,159 --> 00:33:09,552 Whatever I did, it was for their own good. 632 00:33:09,596 --> 00:33:11,902 So they'd be strong. So the world wouldn't 633 00:33:11,946 --> 00:33:13,556 chew them up and spit them out. 634 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,124 Look, when your son is born, 635 00:33:16,168 --> 00:33:17,952 nobody hands you an instruction book. 636 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,780 You do what you think is right. 637 00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:25,177 - The thing is... I know a lot of dads 638 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:26,830 who are so tired when they get home from work, 639 00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:28,919 all they can do is get out of their suits 640 00:33:28,963 --> 00:33:31,487 and sit in front of the tube. 641 00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:32,532 Not me. 642 00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,708 No matter how tired I was, 643 00:33:34,751 --> 00:33:37,711 I always went to the park, tossed a ball with my boys. 644 00:33:37,754 --> 00:33:40,279 I went to their games, whatever. 645 00:33:40,322 --> 00:33:43,195 Yes, I took them fishing and hunting--that's what 646 00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:45,327 my dad did for me, that's what I do for them. 647 00:33:45,371 --> 00:33:47,286 I'm still waiting for someone to tell me 648 00:33:47,329 --> 00:33:50,289 why it's wrong to want your boys to grow up to be men. 649 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:51,855 - Thank you. 650 00:33:51,899 --> 00:33:53,335 Thank you. 651 00:34:00,299 --> 00:34:01,735 - What most fathers would say-- 652 00:34:01,778 --> 00:34:03,867 they want their son to grow up to be a good man. 653 00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:07,349 Good, bad--that doesn't seem to matter to you. 654 00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:09,525 - Of course I want them to be good men. 655 00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:14,400 - Both my boys made varsity. 656 00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:18,447 Teaches teamwork, self-confidence. 657 00:34:20,754 --> 00:34:22,930 - He sure as hell isn't afraid to. 658 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:26,586 You don't have a boy do you, Mr. Stone? 659 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:28,283 - No, I don't. 660 00:34:28,327 --> 00:34:31,199 - You got a lot of nerve criticizing how I raise mine. 661 00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:32,853 - You mean I've got balls. 662 00:34:32,896 --> 00:34:33,941 - Objection! 663 00:34:33,984 --> 00:34:36,248 - It's okay, Jed. I got this. 664 00:34:36,291 --> 00:34:39,033 As a matter of fact, 665 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,904 if we weren't in a courtroom, 666 00:34:40,948 --> 00:34:43,907 that is exactly what I would have said. 667 00:34:47,911 --> 00:34:49,435 - If I don't have balls, what do I have? 668 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:51,001 I'd have the lifelong shame of a boy 669 00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:52,655 who could never live up to his dad's 670 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,527 perverse idea of manhood, isn't that right? 671 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:56,355 - Your Honor! - Mr. Stone-- 672 00:34:56,398 --> 00:34:57,921 - I'd be a little girl, wouldn't I, Mr. Conway? And there's 673 00:34:57,965 --> 00:34:59,227 nothing in the world worse than that, is there? 674 00:34:59,271 --> 00:35:01,360 - That's enough, Mr. Stone. 675 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:09,585 ♪ 676 00:35:09,629 --> 00:35:11,065 - You saw it. 677 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:12,936 - Actually, I didn't. I'm sorry, I just couldn't 678 00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:15,722 stomach listening to, "the world according to John Conway." 679 00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:17,071 - Well, it didn't go great. 680 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,291 - I'm calling Sam as a rebuttal witness. 681 00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:25,297 . 682 00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:27,864 - Of course I loved him. - And you tried to make him 683 00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:29,127 proud of you? - Yeah. 684 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:30,954 - 'Cause he was my dad. 685 00:35:30,998 --> 00:35:32,042 - You wanted to make him happy? 686 00:35:32,086 --> 00:35:33,392 - Yeah, what's wrong with that? 687 00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:35,437 - Not a thing, if it makes you happy, too. 688 00:35:35,481 --> 00:35:37,439 Did it? 689 00:35:37,483 --> 00:35:39,789 - Look, if he was happy, I was happy. 690 00:35:42,096 --> 00:35:43,837 This important, Sam. 691 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,057 How did your dad act if he wasn't happy with you? 692 00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:50,191 - He'd call me names. 693 00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:52,193 - He'd call me a baby. 694 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:53,760 - He'd say, um... 695 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,071 - He'd say--he'd say I was a fag or a pussy, okay? 696 00:36:04,945 --> 00:36:06,903 - Like when you couldn't shoot the rabbit? 697 00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:10,864 - Yeah. Yeah, that's right. 698 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:13,475 - So, he wasn't proud of you then? 699 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:14,955 - No. 700 00:36:16,348 --> 00:36:19,394 No, he said, "Until further notice, I was... 701 00:36:19,438 --> 00:36:21,396 a little girl." 702 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,051 Called me "Samantha." 703 00:36:25,313 --> 00:36:27,881 Threw one of my mom's dresses at me, told me to wear it. 704 00:36:29,883 --> 00:36:31,189 - No. 705 00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:34,235 He said I deserved it, though. 706 00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:36,324 But he would "never hit a girl." 707 00:36:40,372 --> 00:36:43,375 - Objection! This has already been litigated. 708 00:36:43,418 --> 00:36:46,508 - Nice try, Mr. Stone. The objection is sustained. 709 00:36:50,817 --> 00:36:52,427 - In that moment, before you shot your schoolmates, 710 00:36:52,471 --> 00:36:54,081 what were you thinking? 711 00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:00,479 Would you speak up, Sam? 712 00:37:00,522 --> 00:37:02,220 - "Be a man!" 713 00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:05,135 A voice in my head kept saying, "Be a man!" 714 00:37:05,179 --> 00:37:07,399 Be a man! Over and over again. Be a man! 715 00:37:11,446 --> 00:37:15,407 How's that, Dad? I didn't flinch! Am I a man now? 716 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:17,757 Huh? 717 00:37:21,326 --> 00:37:28,289 ♪ 718 00:37:33,381 --> 00:37:35,557 - Did John tell his son to shoot up the school? 719 00:37:35,601 --> 00:37:37,298 No, he didn't. 720 00:37:37,342 --> 00:37:39,300 Did he put the gun in his hand? Didn't do that either. 721 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,956 Did he stand by and watch as Sam pulled the trigger? 722 00:37:42,999 --> 00:37:46,264 Sorry. He was at his office in another borough. 723 00:37:46,307 --> 00:37:49,092 If we're gonna start making parents liable 724 00:37:49,136 --> 00:37:51,399 for the independent acts of their kids, 725 00:37:51,443 --> 00:37:54,968 we better all start losing weight, because... 726 00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:58,319 there's going to be a tight squeeze in Attica. 727 00:38:06,501 --> 00:38:10,940 - Men are strong. They're the hunters, the fighters. 728 00:38:10,984 --> 00:38:14,335 The spear-throwers, the sword-swingers, 729 00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:16,206 the gunslingers. 730 00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:18,861 They sit in bars and they toss back shots, 731 00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:21,908 regaling other men with tales of their sexual conquests. 732 00:38:21,951 --> 00:38:23,518 That's what makes them masculine, 733 00:38:23,562 --> 00:38:25,912 that's what makes them men. 734 00:38:26,869 --> 00:38:28,349 You get in a fistfight? That's okay. 735 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:31,221 It'll make you a man. 736 00:38:31,265 --> 00:38:32,484 You grab a little ass? 737 00:38:32,527 --> 00:38:35,008 Hey, that's what men do. 738 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:39,578 But what if you cry? 739 00:38:39,621 --> 00:38:42,276 Or show empathy? Or, God forbid, 740 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,235 you can't shoot a little rabbit? 741 00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:48,630 Well, I'm sorry, you just don't deserve to be my son. 742 00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:58,640 The problem is, Sam is John's son. 743 00:38:58,684 --> 00:39:04,385 The problem is, Sam just wanted to make John proud. 744 00:39:04,429 --> 00:39:07,519 The problem is, John wasn't preaching strength. 745 00:39:07,562 --> 00:39:10,435 He was preaching power over others, 746 00:39:10,478 --> 00:39:12,915 and that's not being a man... 747 00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:16,354 That's being a criminal. 748 00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:26,538 - Have you reached a verdict? 749 00:39:26,581 --> 00:39:29,323 - We have. 750 00:39:30,933 --> 00:39:32,413 - On the sole count of the indictment, 751 00:39:32,457 --> 00:39:34,328 Criminally Negligent Homicide... 752 00:39:35,416 --> 00:39:38,463 we find the defendant, John Conway, guilty. 753 00:39:39,464 --> 00:39:41,379 - Take the defendant into custody. 754 00:40:13,019 --> 00:40:14,455 - But I don't wanna go to bed! 755 00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:16,936 - But you don't have a vote, mister, okay? 756 00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:18,328 - No! 757 00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:20,679 - Noah! 758 00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:24,247 Don't ever do that again. 759 00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:26,075 - But-- - I don't-- 760 00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,295 Get in your bed, right now. 761 00:40:32,255 --> 00:40:34,127 We're gonna talk about this in the morning. 762 00:40:45,791 --> 00:40:47,488 Good night. 763 00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:50,186 I love you. 764 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,111 Noah, I love you.