1 00:00:05,965 --> 00:00:16,517 ♪ 2 00:00:16,517 --> 00:00:20,137 >>> I DON'T THINK THE GRIEVING 3 00:00:20,137 --> 00:00:20,689 EVER ENDS. 4 00:00:20,689 --> 00:00:25,000 IT EVOLVES. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,793 WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO TELL 6 00:00:26,793 --> 00:00:29,517 AMIE'S STORY AND JUST FELT LIKE 7 00:00:29,517 --> 00:00:30,724 WE WEREN'T READY BEFORE, BUT NOW 8 00:00:30,724 --> 00:00:32,896 WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO IT. 9 00:00:32,896 --> 00:00:34,448 >> I WAS SO PROUD OF HER AND 10 00:00:34,448 --> 00:00:37,103 WHAT SHE'S ACCOMPLISHED. 11 00:00:37,103 --> 00:00:44,344 >> OH, MY GOODNESS, FIRE EATER, 12 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:51,000 DANCER, PHOTOGRAPHER, MODEL. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,448 THERAPIST. 14 00:00:51,448 --> 00:00:52,896 SHE WANTED TO FIX PEOPLE. 15 00:00:52,896 --> 00:00:56,655 >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO 16 00:00:56,655 --> 00:00:57,275 THO WOMAN 17 00:00:57,275 --> 00:00:58,206 THIS WOMAN. 18 00:00:58,206 --> 00:01:01,482 >> AS A MARRIAGE THERAPIST, I 19 00:01:01,482 --> 00:01:03,517 SEE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF 20 00:01:03,517 --> 00:01:05,102 THINGS, BREAKUPS, MOVES, THINGS 21 00:01:05,102 --> 00:01:05,862 LIKE THAT. 22 00:01:05,862 --> 00:01:06,965 >> AMIE HELPED ME SO MUCH. 23 00:01:06,965 --> 00:01:10,413 I HAD GONE TO SEE AMIE BECAUSE I 24 00:01:10,413 --> 00:01:12,551 HAD DEALT WITH A RELATIONSHIP 25 00:01:12,551 --> 00:01:14,482 THAT GOT VERY OUT OF CONTROL AND 26 00:01:14,482 --> 00:01:17,379 TURNED INTO A VERY SERIOUS 27 00:01:17,379 --> 00:01:17,758 STALKING CASE. 28 00:01:17,758 --> 00:01:20,275 >> JEALOUSY CAN BECOME 29 00:01:20,275 --> 00:01:21,482 DANGEROUS, EVEN LEAD TO 30 00:01:21,482 --> 00:01:21,758 VIOLENCE. 31 00:01:21,758 --> 00:01:28,689 IT CAN LEAD TO DEATH. 32 00:01:28,689 --> 00:01:31,068 >> SOMEBODY JUST ATTACKED MY 33 00:01:31,068 --> 00:01:31,344 ROOMMATE. 34 00:01:31,344 --> 00:01:33,344 PLEASE GET A COP HERE. 35 00:01:33,344 --> 00:01:35,931 >> I JUST WAS WOKEN UP BY 36 00:01:35,931 --> 00:01:38,378 SCREAMING, LIKE BLOOD CURDLING 37 00:01:38,378 --> 00:01:40,586 SCREAM, AND THEN I REALIZED THAT 38 00:01:40,586 --> 00:01:43,931 THE SCREAMING WASN'T STOPPING OR 39 00:01:43,931 --> 00:01:47,068 SLOWING DOWN AND I YELLED UP, 40 00:01:47,068 --> 00:01:47,482 YOU KNOW, AMIE. 41 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:49,068 AND I HEARD CHOKING RIGHT AFTER 42 00:01:49,068 --> 00:01:51,172 THAT, I KNEW WE WERE IN TROUBLE. 43 00:01:51,172 --> 00:01:54,689 THIS IS FOR REAL. 44 00:01:54,689 --> 00:01:55,206 THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING. 45 00:01:55,206 --> 00:01:58,931 I KNEW WE KNEADEDNEEDED HELP, LIKE I'M 46 00:01:58,931 --> 00:02:01,482 GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A BREAK 47 00:02:01,482 --> 00:02:01,724 FOR IT. 48 00:02:01,724 --> 00:02:02,931 >> WHEN THE FIRST RESPONDERS 49 00:02:02,931 --> 00:02:04,206 FIRST GOT THAT CALL, WHERE DID 50 00:02:04,206 --> 00:02:05,034 THEY GO? 51 00:02:05,034 --> 00:02:07,172 >> THEY CAME RIGHT HERE TO THIS 52 00:02:07,172 --> 00:02:07,413 HOUSE. 53 00:02:07,413 --> 00:02:13,827 >> HEY, SIR, HOW CAN I HELP HELP 54 00:02:13,827 --> 00:02:14,000 YOU. 55 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,034 >> MY ROOMMATE WAS ATTACKED. 56 00:02:17,034 --> 00:02:20,103 >> MICHAEL HERMAN WAS OUT HERE. 57 00:02:20,103 --> 00:02:24,965 HE'S FRANTIC, HE'S NERVOUS. 58 00:02:24,965 --> 00:02:25,517 >> THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO 59 00:02:25,517 --> 00:02:25,896 THINK THIS GUY. 60 00:02:25,896 --> 00:02:26,586 >> THEY KNEW HE WAS RAMBLING ON. 61 00:02:26,586 --> 00:02:28,310 THEY HAD SOME DOUBTS ABOUT HIM 62 00:02:28,310 --> 00:02:28,620 ORIGINALLY. 63 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:29,793 >> SO I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY 64 00:02:29,793 --> 00:02:30,241 ELSE IN THERE. 65 00:02:30,241 --> 00:02:32,482 >> DO ME A FAVOR, CALM DOWN. 66 00:02:32,482 --> 00:02:34,827 CALM DOWN. 67 00:02:34,827 --> 00:02:35,379 OTHER THAN YOUR ROOMMATE IS 68 00:02:35,379 --> 00:02:36,067 THERE ANYBODY ELSE INSIDE THAT 69 00:02:36,067 --> 00:02:36,275 HOUSE? 70 00:02:36,275 --> 00:02:38,586 >> I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. 71 00:02:38,586 --> 00:02:39,586 >> AND I'M WALKING THEM AROUND 72 00:02:39,586 --> 00:02:42,275 TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, AND 73 00:02:42,275 --> 00:02:44,586 IT'S DARK BACK THERE. 74 00:02:44,586 --> 00:02:45,965 THERE'S SOME LIGHT, BUT IT'S 75 00:02:45,965 --> 00:02:46,793 PRETTY DARK BACK THERE. 76 00:02:46,793 --> 00:02:49,689 >> SO WHEN THEY GET AROUND TO 77 00:02:49,689 --> 00:02:51,758 THE BACK, NOW THEY CAN SEE A 78 00:02:51,758 --> 00:02:52,275 BODY ON THE GROUND. 79 00:02:52,275 --> 00:02:55,965 >> AMIE, AMIE -- 80 00:02:55,965 --> 00:02:57,000 >> SIR, IRSIR COME HERE. 81 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,930 >> I REMEMBER NOT KNOWING WHAT I 82 00:02:57,930 --> 00:03:00,517 WAS SEEING AND JUST REALIZING IT 83 00:03:00,517 --> 00:03:01,344 WAS AMIE. 84 00:03:01,344 --> 00:03:03,965 >> REALLY WHAT HIT ME WAS THE 85 00:03:03,965 --> 00:03:07,896 WAY THAT SHE WAS KILLED, SO 86 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:08,793 HEARTBREAKING THAT HER OF ALL 87 00:03:08,793 --> 00:03:11,827 PEOPLE HAD TO BE TAKEN THE WAY 88 00:03:11,827 --> 00:03:12,896 THAT SHE WAS. 89 00:03:12,896 --> 00:03:15,310 >> I SAID I KNOW WHO DID IT, I 90 00:03:15,310 --> 00:03:16,551 JUST KNEW IT. 91 00:03:16,551 --> 00:03:19,896 IT WAS THE ONLY PERSON SHE WAS 92 00:03:19,896 --> 00:03:20,137 AFRAID OF. 93 00:03:20,137 --> 00:03:24,379 IT'S THE ONLY ONE SHE WAS EVER 94 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:31,103 AFRAID OF. 95 00:03:31,103 --> 00:03:43,344 ♪ 96 00:03:43,344 --> 00:04:04,827 ♪ 97 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:09,137 ♪ 98 00:04:09,137 --> 00:04:09,862 >>> TAKE A SEAT. 99 00:04:09,862 --> 00:04:15,827 TAKE A SEAT. 100 00:04:15,827 --> 00:04:22,482 >> OH, MY KBODGOD. 101 00:04:22,482 --> 00:04:22,931 >> WE NEED AN AMBULANCE. 102 00:04:22,931 --> 00:04:23,551 >> IN THE EARLY MORNING DARKNESS 103 00:04:23,551 --> 00:04:24,482 OF FEBRUARY 15th, 2020, POLICE 104 00:04:24,482 --> 00:04:27,103 BODY CAMERAS WERE RECORDING AS 105 00:04:27,103 --> 00:04:28,206 AMIE HARWICK BARELY CLINGING TO 106 00:04:28,206 --> 00:04:31,103 LIFE OUTSIDE HER HOLLYWOOD HILLS 107 00:04:31,103 --> 00:04:32,931 HOME WAS TAKEN TO A HOSPITAL. 108 00:04:32,931 --> 00:04:34,586 >> IF SHE SAYS ANYTHING IN THE 109 00:04:34,586 --> 00:04:37,413 HOSPITAL, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. 110 00:04:37,413 --> 00:04:40,551 >> AS EMTs TRIED TO SAVE AMIE, 111 00:04:40,551 --> 00:04:41,172 OFFICERS FROM THE LOS ANGELES 112 00:04:41,172 --> 00:04:42,275 POLICE DEPARTMENT TRIED TO MAKE 113 00:04:42,275 --> 00:04:43,551 SENSE OF THE SCENE. 114 00:04:43,551 --> 00:04:46,344 AMIE'S ROOMMATE, MICHAEL HERMAN 115 00:04:46,344 --> 00:04:47,586 APPEARED TO BE THE ONLY WITNESS. 116 00:04:47,586 --> 00:04:50,103 HE TOLD OFFICERS AN INTRUDER HAD 117 00:04:50,103 --> 00:04:51,103 ATTACKED AMIE. 118 00:04:51,103 --> 00:04:53,655 >> I SWEAR TO YOU, THERE WAS A 119 00:04:53,655 --> 00:04:54,448 STRUGGLE I HEARD. 120 00:04:54,448 --> 00:04:56,551 >> BUT IS THERE ANY SIGN OF THE 121 00:04:56,551 --> 00:04:56,827 INTRUDER? 122 00:04:56,827 --> 00:04:58,655 >> THERE WASN'T. 123 00:04:58,655 --> 00:04:59,310 THERE WASN'T. 124 00:04:59,310 --> 00:05:02,482 >> SCOTT MASTERSON WAS THE LEAD 125 00:05:02,482 --> 00:05:03,000 DETECTIVE. 126 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,137 >> ALL WE KNEW WHEN WE SHOWED UP 127 00:05:05,137 --> 00:05:07,793 WAS THAT FEMALE WAS FOUND ON THE 128 00:05:07,793 --> 00:05:10,275 GROUND IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. 129 00:05:10,275 --> 00:05:13,344 WE'RE WIDE OPEN TO WHAT REALLY 130 00:05:13,344 --> 00:05:13,620 WENT ON. 131 00:05:13,620 --> 00:05:14,655 >> EVEN OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY 132 00:05:14,655 --> 00:05:16,862 THAT THIS WASN'T FOUL PLAY AT 133 00:05:16,862 --> 00:05:17,344 ALL. 134 00:05:17,344 --> 00:05:19,448 WHEN OFFICERS SEARCHED THE 135 00:05:19,448 --> 00:05:21,448 THREE-STORY HOUSE, THEY FOUND 136 00:05:21,448 --> 00:05:24,241 AMIE'S PURSE, JACKET, AND BROKEN 137 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:26,931 NECKLACE ON THE FLOOR, NOT 138 00:05:26,931 --> 00:05:29,586 EXACTLY TELLTALE SIGNS OF A 139 00:05:29,586 --> 00:05:32,344 CRIME AND A DISCOVERY ON AMIE'S 140 00:05:32,344 --> 00:05:33,896 BALCONY MADE THEM WONDER IF THIS 141 00:05:33,896 --> 00:05:38,827 COULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT OR 142 00:05:38,827 --> 00:05:39,137 EVEN SUICIDE. 143 00:05:39,137 --> 00:05:39,827 >> ON THE DECK OF THE BALCONY WE 144 00:05:39,827 --> 00:05:42,517 FOUND A MEDIUM SIZED SYRINGE, 145 00:05:42,517 --> 00:05:45,413 AND IT WAS LOADED WITH A 146 00:05:45,413 --> 00:05:46,000 YELLOWISH BROWN SUBSTANCE. 147 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 >> YEAH, IT'S HEROIN. 148 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,448 >> WHEN THE OFFICERS FIRST SAW 149 00:05:49,448 --> 00:05:51,379 THAT, THEY THOUGHT, WHAT WAS 150 00:05:51,379 --> 00:05:53,344 THIS SOME KIND OF DRUG DEAL OR 151 00:05:53,344 --> 00:05:53,620 INCIDENT? 152 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:54,931 >> YEAH, EXACTLY. 153 00:05:54,931 --> 00:05:57,034 OR MAYBE SHE WAS USING DRUGS AND 154 00:05:57,034 --> 00:05:57,965 FELL OVER. 155 00:05:57,965 --> 00:05:58,482 THEY DIDN'T KNOW. 156 00:05:58,482 --> 00:06:02,000 >> SIR, DO YOU KNOW HER HISTORY 157 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:02,310 OF DRUG USE? 158 00:06:02,310 --> 00:06:03,034 >> SHE'S SOBER. 159 00:06:03,034 --> 00:06:04,068 SHE DOESN'T DRINK. 160 00:06:04,068 --> 00:06:04,896 >> SHE DOESN'T DRINK. 161 00:06:04,896 --> 00:06:06,172 >> SHE DOESN'T EVEN DRINK, SHE'S 162 00:06:06,172 --> 00:06:06,413 SOBER. 163 00:06:06,413 --> 00:06:08,000 >> WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, I SAID 164 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 THAT'S NOT HEROIN. 165 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 >> NOT HEROIN. 166 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,586 BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. 167 00:06:12,586 --> 00:06:13,310 >> BUT WHAT DID YOU THINK, 168 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:15,344 WASN'T THAT ODD? 169 00:06:15,344 --> 00:06:17,793 >> VERY ODD, VERY STRANGE. 170 00:06:17,793 --> 00:06:19,655 >> AND VERY STRANGE TO 171 00:06:19,655 --> 00:06:21,482 INVESTIGATORS SAYS MASTERSON WAS 172 00:06:21,482 --> 00:06:24,965 THAT MICHAEL HAD BLOOD ON HIS 173 00:06:24,965 --> 00:06:26,137 SHIRT, AND ALTHOUGH HE SAID HE 174 00:06:26,137 --> 00:06:28,413 WAS A ROOMMATE, HE DIDN'T HAVE 175 00:06:28,413 --> 00:06:31,724 HIS KEYS TO THE HOUSE WHEN FIRST 176 00:06:31,724 --> 00:06:32,137 RESPONDERS ARRIVED. 177 00:06:32,137 --> 00:06:33,068 >> THEY DON'T KNOW IF HE'S PART 178 00:06:33,068 --> 00:06:36,448 OF THE PROBLEM, PART OF THE 179 00:06:36,448 --> 00:06:36,793 SOLUTION. 180 00:06:36,793 --> 00:06:38,413 >> SO THEY'RE THINKING WAS HE IN 181 00:06:38,413 --> 00:06:41,000 A FIGHT WITH HER? 182 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,379 >> THAT WAS NOT TRUE. 183 00:06:43,379 --> 00:06:45,034 MICHAEL HERMAN IS TELLING HIS 184 00:06:45,034 --> 00:06:47,275 STORY PUBLICLY FOR THE FIRST 185 00:06:47,275 --> 00:06:49,689 TIME ABOUT THE EVENTS ON THE 186 00:06:49,689 --> 00:06:52,517 NIGHT OF VALENTINE'S DAY 2020 187 00:06:52,517 --> 00:06:54,172 AND INTO THE EARLY HOURS OF THE 188 00:06:54,172 --> 00:06:55,000 NEXT DAY. 189 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,517 >> THE WORD NIGHTMARE ISN'T A 190 00:06:58,517 --> 00:06:59,655 BIG ENOUGH WORD, IS IT? 191 00:06:59,655 --> 00:07:00,379 >> NO, NO. 192 00:07:00,379 --> 00:07:01,793 >> AMIE HAD GONE OUT WITH 193 00:07:01,793 --> 00:07:04,068 FRIENDS, AND MICHAEL WAS IN HIS 194 00:07:04,068 --> 00:07:05,655 DOWNSTAIRS BEDROOM. 195 00:07:05,655 --> 00:07:07,103 >> I'D BEEN MOSTLY NODDING ON 196 00:07:07,103 --> 00:07:07,793 AND OFF. 197 00:07:07,793 --> 00:07:11,137 I REMEMBER WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A 198 00:07:11,137 --> 00:07:14,103 PLATE DROPPING BEGING WOKEN UP BY 199 00:07:14,103 --> 00:07:14,275 IT. 200 00:07:14,275 --> 00:07:15,724 >> THINKING IT WAS AMIE'S CAT HE 201 00:07:15,724 --> 00:07:16,931 SAYS HE FELL BACK ASLEEP. 202 00:07:16,931 --> 00:07:20,172 HE LATER WOKE UP TO AMIE 203 00:07:20,172 --> 00:07:21,758 RETURNING HOME, AND THAT BLOOD 204 00:07:21,758 --> 00:07:22,413 CURDLING SCREAM. 205 00:07:22,413 --> 00:07:24,620 HE THEN HEARD WHAT SOUNDED LIKE 206 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:27,103 AMIE BEING THROWN TO THE FLOOR 207 00:07:27,103 --> 00:07:30,517 AND LATER CHOKED. 208 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:31,793 >> MADE YOU FEEL THERE WAS 209 00:07:31,793 --> 00:07:33,413 SOMEONE UP WITH HER IN. 210 00:07:33,413 --> 00:07:35,068 >> I KNEW FOR A FACT THERE WAS 211 00:07:35,068 --> 00:07:36,310 SOMEBODY UP THERE AFTER THAT. 212 00:07:36,310 --> 00:07:39,517 TRYING TO LISTEN YOU DON'T KNOW 213 00:07:39,517 --> 00:07:40,034 FOR SURE WHAT'S GOING ON. 214 00:07:40,034 --> 00:07:41,310 WAS HE ACTING ALONE, WAS THERE 215 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:42,137 MORE THAN ONE PERSON? 216 00:07:42,137 --> 00:07:44,931 I START RUSHING TO LOOK FOR MY 217 00:07:44,931 --> 00:07:45,103 PHONE. 218 00:07:45,103 --> 00:07:47,172 >> BUT MICHAEL SAYS HE COULDN'T 219 00:07:47,172 --> 00:07:47,965 FIND HIS PHONE. 220 00:07:47,965 --> 00:07:50,793 HE THEN STARTED YELLING TO SCARE 221 00:07:50,793 --> 00:07:53,275 THE INTRUDER. 222 00:07:53,275 --> 00:07:53,931 >> I REMEMBER THINKING LIKE THIS 223 00:07:53,931 --> 00:07:57,310 IS O'SO MUCH WORSE THAN ANY HORROR 224 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:58,379 MOVIE I'VE EVER SEEN. 225 00:07:58,379 --> 00:07:59,551 YOU'RE REALIZING LIKE TO SAVE 226 00:07:59,551 --> 00:08:01,310 HER YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE THE 227 00:08:01,310 --> 00:08:02,379 DECISION TO LEAVE HER, IT WAS 228 00:08:02,379 --> 00:08:03,724 SUCH A HARD DECISION. 229 00:08:03,724 --> 00:08:06,344 >> MICHAEL FLED THE HOUSE TO GET 230 00:08:06,344 --> 00:08:07,758 HELP BUT WHEN HE GOT TO THE 231 00:08:07,758 --> 00:08:09,448 FRONT GATE IT WAS LOCKED. 232 00:08:09,448 --> 00:08:11,827 HE CLIMBED OVER A FENCE CUTTING 233 00:08:11,827 --> 00:08:17,310 HIMSELF ON SPIKED RODS. 234 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:17,965 FRANTICALLY HE RAN TO THE NEXT 235 00:08:17,965 --> 00:08:20,310 DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. 236 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:20,931 THAT NEIGHBOR'S SURVEILLANCE 237 00:08:20,931 --> 00:08:23,482 CAMERA SHOWS MICHAEL KNOCKING ON 238 00:08:23,482 --> 00:08:25,586 THE DOOR, BUT NO ONE ANSWERS. 239 00:08:25,586 --> 00:08:27,034 >> I JUST KIND OF PANICKED 240 00:08:27,034 --> 00:08:28,379 FEELING LIKE A LOT OF TIME HAD 241 00:08:28,379 --> 00:08:29,344 ALREADY PASSED. 242 00:08:29,344 --> 00:08:30,862 >> HE THEN RAN INTO SOMEONE ON 243 00:08:30,862 --> 00:08:34,309 THE STREET AND USED THEIR PHONE 244 00:08:34,309 --> 00:08:35,517 TO CALL 911. 245 00:08:35,517 --> 00:08:37,241 >> YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A COP 246 00:08:37,241 --> 00:08:37,758 HERE QUICK. 247 00:08:37,758 --> 00:08:40,068 >> SIR, THE OFFICERS ARE ON THE 248 00:08:40,068 --> 00:08:40,241 WAY. 249 00:08:40,241 --> 00:08:43,241 >> AFTER SPENDING HOURS AT THE 250 00:08:43,241 --> 00:08:44,862 SCENE, INVESTIGATORS FOUND 251 00:08:44,862 --> 00:08:46,517 SOMETHING IN THE LIGHT OF DAY 252 00:08:46,517 --> 00:08:50,103 THAT THEY HAD MISSED BEFORE, A 253 00:08:50,103 --> 00:08:54,000 BROKEN WINDOW FROM A FRENCH DOOR 254 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,689 ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH BLOOD 255 00:08:54,689 --> 00:08:54,931 NEARBY. 256 00:08:54,931 --> 00:08:57,137 >> SO AS SOON AS WE SAW THAT, 257 00:08:57,137 --> 00:08:59,000 OKAY, THIS IS OUR POINT OF 258 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,172 ENTRY. 259 00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:01,000 WE HAVE A CRIME HERE. 260 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,724 SOMEBODY BROKE INTO THIS HOUSE 261 00:09:01,724 --> 00:09:02,896 AND DID THIS. 262 00:09:02,896 --> 00:09:04,827 >> SO THIS WAS THE FIRST PIECE 263 00:09:04,827 --> 00:09:06,586 OF EVIDENCE THAT SAID TO YOU 264 00:09:06,586 --> 00:09:11,965 MIKE HERMAN MIGHT BE TELLING YOU 265 00:09:11,965 --> 00:09:12,206 THE TRUTH? 266 00:09:12,206 --> 00:09:12,758 >> YEKTCORRECT. 267 00:09:12,758 --> 00:09:13,827 CORRECT. 268 00:09:13,827 --> 00:09:14,586 >> LATER AT THE HOLLYWOOD POLICE 269 00:09:14,586 --> 00:09:16,206 STATION, MICHAEL TOLD MASTERSON 270 00:09:16,206 --> 00:09:18,931 ABOUT THE PERSON HE BELIEVED WAS 271 00:09:18,931 --> 00:09:19,241 RESPONSIBLE. 272 00:09:19,241 --> 00:09:21,965 >> TOLD HIM SHE HAD AN 273 00:09:21,965 --> 00:09:23,103 EX-BOYFRIEND THAT SHE HAD HAD A 274 00:09:23,103 --> 00:09:24,068 RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST THAT 275 00:09:24,068 --> 00:09:24,862 HAD EXPIRED. 276 00:09:24,862 --> 00:09:26,689 I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME, BUT 277 00:09:26,689 --> 00:09:27,724 ROBERT WOULD KNOW HIS NAME. 278 00:09:27,724 --> 00:09:31,793 >> ROBERT IS ROBERT COSHLAND, 279 00:09:31,793 --> 00:09:33,689 ONE OF AMIE'S CLOSEST FRIENDS. 280 00:09:33,689 --> 00:09:35,517 WE FIRST SPOKE TO ROBERT IN 281 00:09:35,517 --> 00:09:35,827 2020. 282 00:09:35,827 --> 00:09:39,310 HE TOLD US WHAT HE TOLD POLICE. 283 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:39,965 >> THEY WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO 284 00:09:39,965 --> 00:09:40,896 YOU KNOW WHO MIGHT HAVE -- YOU 285 00:09:40,896 --> 00:09:42,241 KNOW, COULD HAVE DONE THIS, AND 286 00:09:42,241 --> 00:09:45,551 I WAS LIKE, YEAH, GARETH. 287 00:09:45,551 --> 00:09:48,172 >> GARETH PURSEHOUSE, AN OLD 288 00:09:48,172 --> 00:09:51,172 BOYFRIEND WHOM AMIE HAD HAD A 289 00:09:51,172 --> 00:09:51,896 TROUBLED RELATIONSHIP WITH WHEN 290 00:09:51,896 --> 00:09:53,965 THEY DATED ALMOST TEN YEARS 291 00:09:53,965 --> 00:09:54,448 EARLIER 292 00:09:54,448 --> 00:09:54,724 EARLIER. 293 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:55,655 >> I WAS LIKE YOU NEED TO GO 294 00:09:55,655 --> 00:09:57,793 FIND THIS GUY RIGHT AWAY. 295 00:09:57,793 --> 00:09:59,689 >> MASTERSON THEN BROKE THE NEWS 296 00:09:59,689 --> 00:10:02,379 TO ROBERT AND MICHAEL, AMIE HAD 297 00:10:02,379 --> 00:10:03,896 DIED AT THE HOSPITAL. 298 00:10:03,896 --> 00:10:05,862 SHE WAS 38 YEARS OLD. 299 00:10:05,862 --> 00:10:08,482 >> HOW DIFFICULT WAS IT TO HEAR 300 00:10:08,482 --> 00:10:09,896 THAT AMIE DIDN'T MAKE IT? 301 00:10:09,896 --> 00:10:13,517 >> IT'S STILL DIFFICULT TO HEAR. 302 00:10:13,517 --> 00:10:15,068 >> AS INVESTIGATORS WORKED TO 303 00:10:15,068 --> 00:10:17,000 FIND AMIE'S EX-BOYFRIEND, THEY 304 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,896 ALSO TRIED TO FIND AMIE'S 305 00:10:19,896 --> 00:10:23,103 PARENTS, PENNY AND TOM HARWICK 306 00:10:23,103 --> 00:10:23,620 IN PENNSYLVANIA. 307 00:10:23,620 --> 00:10:25,310 THE HARWICKS REMEMBER GETTING 308 00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:27,586 READY FOR BED WHEN THERE WAS A 309 00:10:27,586 --> 00:10:29,448 KNOCK AT THE DOOR. 310 00:10:29,448 --> 00:10:33,379 IT WAS THE LOCAL POLICE. 311 00:10:33,379 --> 00:10:36,586 >> AND HE SAID AMIE'S BEEN 312 00:10:36,586 --> 00:10:41,275 MURDERED 313 00:10:41,275 --> 00:10:41,448 MURDERED. 314 00:10:41,448 --> 00:10:44,068 >> IT'S A BLUR RIGHT NOW. 315 00:10:44,068 --> 00:10:46,482 >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE 316 00:10:46,482 --> 00:10:46,655 IT. 317 00:10:46,655 --> 00:10:49,896 >> JUST DEVASTATED. 318 00:10:49,896 --> 00:10:51,655 >> PENNY AND TOM'S LIFE WITH 319 00:10:51,655 --> 00:10:55,103 AMIE BEGAN WHEN THEY ADOPTED HER 320 00:10:55,103 --> 00:10:57,241 AS AN 11-MONTH-OLD BABY. 321 00:10:57,241 --> 00:10:59,034 >> TUMOR THE FIRST TIME YOU SAW 322 00:10:59,034 --> 00:11:00,724 YOUR LITTLE GIRL? 323 00:11:00,724 --> 00:11:02,379 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY REMEMBER, KIND 324 00:11:02,379 --> 00:11:04,172 OF LIKE A FAIRY TALE. 325 00:11:04,172 --> 00:11:07,275 IT WAS LIKE HERE'S THIS FWUFL 326 00:11:07,275 --> 00:11:08,103 BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL SITTING 327 00:11:08,103 --> 00:11:08,620 THERE. 328 00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:09,896 SHE'S GOING TO COME HOME WITH US 329 00:11:09,896 --> 00:11:11,137 AND BE OUR DAUGHTER. 330 00:11:11,137 --> 00:11:12,000 IT WAS WONDERFUL. 331 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,551 >> AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SHE 332 00:11:13,551 --> 00:11:14,896 HAD A HEAD FULL OF CURLS. 333 00:11:14,896 --> 00:11:16,551 >> AND HER HAIR WAS HONEY 334 00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:16,793 COLORED. 335 00:11:16,793 --> 00:11:20,068 BY THE TIME SHE WAS 4 IT WAS SO 336 00:11:20,068 --> 00:11:20,275 DARK. 337 00:11:20,275 --> 00:11:23,344 >> AROUND THAT SAME TIME, THE 338 00:11:23,344 --> 00:11:23,862 HARWICK 339 00:11:23,862 --> 00:11:25,827 HARWICKS ADOPTED THEIR SON 340 00:11:25,827 --> 00:11:26,034 CHRIS. 341 00:11:26,034 --> 00:11:26,758 >> AND SHE WAS OKAY WITH IT FOR 342 00:11:26,758 --> 00:11:28,413 A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEN SHE 343 00:11:28,413 --> 00:11:31,068 SAID, WELL, WHEN IS HE GOING 344 00:11:31,068 --> 00:11:31,275 BACK? 345 00:11:31,275 --> 00:11:32,724 AND I SAID, WELL, HE'S NOT. 346 00:11:32,724 --> 00:11:33,275 HE'S YOUR BROTHER. 347 00:11:33,275 --> 00:11:38,034 HE'S GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. 348 00:11:38,034 --> 00:11:38,862 >> HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR 349 00:11:38,862 --> 00:11:39,103 SISTER? 350 00:11:39,103 --> 00:11:43,068 >> AMIE WAS A VERY INTERESTING 351 00:11:43,068 --> 00:11:43,517 CHARACTER. 352 00:11:43,517 --> 00:11:44,586 SHE WAS INTO HEAVY METAL AND 353 00:11:44,586 --> 00:11:46,137 ROCK MUSIC AND GOING TO 354 00:11:46,137 --> 00:11:46,413 CONCERTS. 355 00:11:46,413 --> 00:11:50,137 >> AND AMIE GOT HER PARENTS IN 356 00:11:50,137 --> 00:11:50,551 ON THE ACTION TOO. 357 00:11:50,551 --> 00:11:52,275 >> SHE TURNED PENNY AND I INTO 358 00:11:52,275 --> 00:11:52,724 METAL HEADS. 359 00:11:52,724 --> 00:11:53,896 >> SHE DID. 360 00:11:53,896 --> 00:11:54,517 >> SERIOUSLY? 361 00:11:54,517 --> 00:11:56,241 >> SERIOUSLY. 362 00:11:56,241 --> 00:11:58,620 >> AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS MANAGE 363 00:11:58,620 --> 00:11:59,689 TO GET EITHER BACKSTAGE OR TO 364 00:11:59,689 --> 00:12:07,931 MEAT MEET THE PERFORMERS. THAT'S 365 00:12:07,931 --> 00:12:08,689 JUST WHO SHE WAS. 366 00:12:08,689 --> 00:12:10,000 >> AFTER HIGH SCHOOL AMIE MET 367 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,620 TOMMY DECKER A DRUMMER FROM L.A. 368 00:12:12,620 --> 00:12:13,275 AT A LOCAL CONCERT. 369 00:12:13,275 --> 00:12:15,000 THE TWO BEGAN DATING LONG 370 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,241 DISTANCE. 371 00:12:15,241 --> 00:12:16,103 >> AND THEN SHE SAID I WANT TO 372 00:12:16,103 --> 00:12:16,724 MOVE OUT THERE. 373 00:12:16,724 --> 00:12:20,068 I WANT TO MOVE OUT TO L.A. 374 00:12:20,068 --> 00:12:22,655 >> IN 2001 SHE HEADED WEST. 375 00:12:22,655 --> 00:12:23,655 SHE WAS 20 YEARS OLD. 376 00:12:23,655 --> 00:12:25,655 >> SHE NEEDED TO FIND OUT WHO 377 00:12:25,655 --> 00:12:26,241 SHE WAS. 378 00:12:26,241 --> 00:12:28,827 SHE NEEDED TO DO THAT FOR 379 00:12:28,827 --> 00:12:29,103 HERSELF. 380 00:12:29,103 --> 00:12:32,241 >> SOON THE COUPLE TIED THE 381 00:12:32,241 --> 00:12:34,000 KNOT, BUT AFTER A THREE-YAR 382 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,172 MARRIAGE, TOMMY AND AMIE 383 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,310 DIVORCED. 384 00:12:37,310 --> 00:12:39,034 IT WASN'T MILLION 2009 THAT AMIE 385 00:12:39,034 --> 00:12:41,931 WOULD GO ON TO MEET GARETH 386 00:12:41,931 --> 00:12:43,517 PURSEHOUSE, THE MAN POLICE 387 00:12:43,517 --> 00:12:44,862 SUSPECTED HAD KILLED HER AND 388 00:12:44,862 --> 00:12:53,275 SUSPECTED HAD KILLED HER AND WHOM THEY WERE NOW SEARCHING 389 00:12:53,275 --> 00:12:58,896 WHOM THEY WERE NOW SEARCHING 390 00:12:58,896 --> 00:13:00,241 >>> HEART BREAK FOR A LOCAL 391 00:13:00,241 --> 00:13:01,655 NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER A WELL-KNOWN 392 00:13:01,655 --> 00:13:05,724 THERAPIST WAS KILLED AT HER 393 00:13:05,724 --> 00:13:06,482 HOLLYWOOD HILLS HOME. 394 00:13:06,482 --> 00:13:09,172 >> PEOPLE HAVE LEFT FLOWERS HERE 395 00:13:09,172 --> 00:13:09,827 FOR AMIE HARWICK AND HER FRIENDS 396 00:13:09,827 --> 00:13:14,034 AND FAMILY ARE HOPING FOR 397 00:13:14,034 --> 00:13:14,551 JUSTICE 398 00:13:14,551 --> 00:13:14,793 JUSTICE. 399 00:13:14,793 --> 00:13:16,172 >> I WAS VERY CONFIDENT THAT, 400 00:13:16,172 --> 00:13:18,551 YOU KNOW, GARETH PURSEHOUSE WAS 401 00:13:18,551 --> 00:13:19,413 OUR GUY. 402 00:13:19,413 --> 00:13:21,517 >> WITHIN 13 HOURS OF AMIE 403 00:13:21,517 --> 00:13:23,517 HARWICK'S DEATH ON FEBRUARY 404 00:13:23,517 --> 00:13:26,827 15th, 2020, POLICE DESCENDED ON 405 00:13:26,827 --> 00:13:29,206 GARETH PURSEHOUSE'S BEACHSIDE 406 00:13:29,206 --> 00:13:31,620 NEIGHBORHOOD TO ARREST HIM. 407 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:34,137 >> YOU COULD TELL HE WAS PLAYING 408 00:13:34,137 --> 00:13:36,413 THE OLD WHAT'S THIS ABOUT? 409 00:13:36,413 --> 00:13:37,517 WHY DO YOU WANT TO TALK -- 410 00:13:37,517 --> 00:13:39,413 WHO -- OH, YEAH, I KNOW AMIE, 411 00:13:39,413 --> 00:13:40,000 SURE, YEAH. 412 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,482 HE BASICALLY WAS SAYING I'VE 413 00:13:41,482 --> 00:13:43,862 BEEN AT HOME. 414 00:13:43,862 --> 00:13:45,275 >> DETECTIVES WEREN'T BUYING 415 00:13:45,275 --> 00:13:48,862 THAT STORY OR THE EXPLANATION 416 00:13:48,862 --> 00:13:52,965 PURSEHOUSE GAVE FOR WHAT 417 00:13:52,965 --> 00:13:53,896 APPEARED TO BE A FRESH BLACK 418 00:13:53,896 --> 00:13:54,034 EYE. 419 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:55,517 HE BLAMED A HOME RENOVATION. 420 00:13:55,517 --> 00:13:58,344 >> I SAID I THINK YOU BETTER GET 421 00:13:58,344 --> 00:13:59,931 A CONTRACTOR, IF YOU GET AHOLD 422 00:13:59,931 --> 00:14:02,000 OF A POWER TOOL, YOU'RE GOING TO 423 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,724 BE IN REAL TROUBLE. 424 00:14:03,724 --> 00:14:06,034 PURSEHOUSE WAS CHARGED WITH 425 00:14:06,034 --> 00:14:07,931 AMIE'S MURDER ON FEBRUARY 19th, 426 00:14:07,931 --> 00:14:08,482 2020, AND DETECTIVES WERE 427 00:14:08,482 --> 00:14:09,965 LEARNING ABOUT HIS TROUBLED PAST 428 00:14:09,965 --> 00:14:11,137 BEGINNING MOTTE LONG AFTER HE 429 00:14:11,137 --> 00:14:15,206 AND AMIE BEGAN DATING IN 2009. 430 00:14:15,206 --> 00:14:16,655 >> THEY SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY FUN 431 00:14:16,655 --> 00:14:18,137 COUPLE AND KIND OF NICE TO SEE, 432 00:14:18,137 --> 00:14:21,172 YOU KNOW, FRIENDS GET TOGETHER. 433 00:14:21,172 --> 00:14:23,517 >> WHEN WE FIRST SPOKE TO RUDY 434 00:14:23,517 --> 00:14:25,241 TORRES IN 2020, HE TALKED ABOUT 435 00:14:25,241 --> 00:14:26,793 HOW THE COUPLE MET. 436 00:14:26,793 --> 00:14:29,137 AMIE THEN WORKING AS A MODEL AND 437 00:14:29,137 --> 00:14:30,413 DANCER WOULD OFTEN RUN INTO 438 00:14:30,413 --> 00:14:34,137 PURSE HOURS, AN EVENTS 439 00:14:34,137 --> 00:14:35,482 PHOTOGRAPHER AT FLASHY L.A. 440 00:14:35,482 --> 00:14:35,758 PARTIES. 441 00:14:35,758 --> 00:14:36,965 >> IF YOU WOULD MEET HIM, YOU 442 00:14:36,965 --> 00:14:38,517 WOULD THINK HE'S CHARMING, A 443 00:14:38,517 --> 00:14:40,482 LITTLE GOOFY, KIND OF DORKY. 444 00:14:40,482 --> 00:14:43,655 >> HE WASN'T A MUSICIAN LIKE SHE 445 00:14:43,655 --> 00:14:44,103 NORMALLY DATED. 446 00:14:44,103 --> 00:14:46,413 >> NO, NO, NO, AND SHE WAS 447 00:14:46,413 --> 00:14:50,068 TRYING TO BREAK THE HABIT. 448 00:14:50,068 --> 00:14:51,586 >> PURSEHOUSE WAS ALSO A 449 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:54,034 COMPUTER EXPERT AND ASPIRING 450 00:14:54,034 --> 00:14:54,310 COMEDIAN. 451 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:56,413 >> ONE MORE TIME FOR GARETH, 452 00:14:56,413 --> 00:14:56,931 EVERYBODY, COME ON. 453 00:14:56,931 --> 00:14:59,310 >> THE BEST DAY OF YOUR CAREER 454 00:14:59,310 --> 00:15:00,586 IS GOING TO BE THE DAYS AFTER 455 00:15:00,586 --> 00:15:01,344 YOU DIE. 456 00:15:01,344 --> 00:15:04,206 >> ODDLY SAYS AMIE'S MOTHER 457 00:15:04,206 --> 00:15:06,172 PENNY, HER DAUGHTER DIDN'T SHARE 458 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:08,241 MUCH ELSE ABOUT HIM. 459 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:09,241 >> AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? 460 00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:10,724 >> WELL, MAYBE SHE WAS ALREADY 461 00:15:10,724 --> 00:15:15,103 FEELING LIKE HE WASN'T WHO SHE 462 00:15:15,103 --> 00:15:15,586 THOUGHT HE WAS. 463 00:15:15,586 --> 00:15:18,620 >> AND PENNY SAYS HER DAUGHTER 464 00:15:18,620 --> 00:15:21,103 NEVADA SHARED HOW VOLATILE THE 465 00:15:21,103 --> 00:15:21,689 TWO-YEAR RELATIONSHIP HAD 466 00:15:21,689 --> 00:15:21,931 BECOME. 467 00:15:21,931 --> 00:15:23,793 >> SHE'D GONE THROUGH QUITE A 468 00:15:23,793 --> 00:15:25,137 BIT WITH GARETH. 469 00:15:25,137 --> 00:15:26,724 THERE WAS A NUMBER OF POLICE 470 00:15:26,724 --> 00:15:27,413 REPORTS THAT WERE MADE. 471 00:15:27,413 --> 00:15:29,413 >> DETECTIVES LEARNED THAT AMIE 472 00:15:29,413 --> 00:15:32,448 HAD CALLED POLICE TO REPORT 473 00:15:32,448 --> 00:15:33,103 SEVERAL VIOLENCE INCIDENTS OVER 474 00:15:33,103 --> 00:15:34,275 THE YEARS. 475 00:15:34,275 --> 00:15:38,655 SHE SAID THAT ON MULTIPLE 476 00:15:38,655 --> 00:15:40,103 OCCASIONS, GARETH PURSEHOUSE HAD 477 00:15:40,103 --> 00:15:41,517 CHOKED, SUFFOCATED AND PUNCHED 478 00:15:41,517 --> 00:15:45,310 HER WITH A CLOSED FIST, AND SHE 479 00:15:45,310 --> 00:15:46,137 EVEN DOCUMENTED HER INJURIES 480 00:15:46,137 --> 00:15:50,482 WITH THESE PHOTOS, BUT AMIE'S 481 00:15:50,482 --> 00:15:52,068 FATHER TOM SAYS AMIE DIDN'T HAIR 482 00:15:52,068 --> 00:15:54,724 JUST HOW BAD THINGS HAD GOTTEN. 483 00:15:54,724 --> 00:15:56,310 >> SHE DIDN'T GO INTO DETAILS. 484 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:57,448 >> DO YOU THINK SHE JUST WANTED 485 00:15:57,448 --> 00:15:58,931 TO PROTECT THE TWO OF YOU? 486 00:15:58,931 --> 00:15:59,793 >> YES. 487 00:15:59,793 --> 00:16:00,068 YES. 488 00:16:00,068 --> 00:16:02,344 >> AFTER AMIE ENDED THE 489 00:16:02,344 --> 00:16:06,689 RELATIONSHIP, SHE TOOK STEPS TO 490 00:16:06,689 --> 00:16:07,931 PROTECT HERSELF, OBTAINING A 491 00:16:07,931 --> 00:16:11,137 RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST 492 00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:12,689 PURSEHOUSE IN 2012, BUT WHILE 493 00:16:12,689 --> 00:16:13,827 SHE WAS TRYING TO DISTANCE 494 00:16:13,827 --> 00:16:16,172 HERSELF FROM HIM, RUDY SAYS 495 00:16:16,172 --> 00:16:18,000 PURSEHOUSE COULD NOT LET HER GO. 496 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,482 >> HE ALWAYS WANTED TO GET AHOLD 497 00:16:19,482 --> 00:16:21,862 OF HER, AND I USED TO TELL HIM 498 00:16:21,862 --> 00:16:25,689 THAT HE SHOULD JUST LEAVE HER 499 00:16:25,689 --> 00:16:26,310 ALONE, AND HE WOULDN'T TAKE NO 500 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:28,517 FOR AN ANSWER, AND THEN HE CUT 501 00:16:28,517 --> 00:16:29,000 ME OFF. 502 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,586 >> IN THE YEARS AFTER THEIR 503 00:16:30,586 --> 00:16:31,482 BREAKUP, AMIE TOLD HER PARENTS 504 00:16:31,482 --> 00:16:35,034 THAT HER HOME WAS BROKEN INTO, 505 00:16:35,034 --> 00:16:36,724 ON ONE OCCASION, STRANGELY THE 506 00:16:36,724 --> 00:16:39,758 ONLY THINGS TAKEN WERE PERSONAL 507 00:16:39,758 --> 00:16:41,586 PHOTOS AND ON ANOTHER HER 508 00:16:41,586 --> 00:16:43,068 COMPUTER WAS WIPED CLEAN. 509 00:16:43,068 --> 00:16:46,137 >> AND DID SHE THINK IT WAS 510 00:16:46,137 --> 00:16:46,689 GARETH? 511 00:16:46,689 --> 00:16:47,000 >> SHE DID. 512 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,206 >> YES, OH, YES. 513 00:16:48,206 --> 00:16:49,517 >> BUT NO WAY OF PROVING. 514 00:16:49,517 --> 00:16:49,758 >> NO. 515 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:51,965 >> NO WAY OF PROVING ANYTHING. 516 00:16:51,965 --> 00:16:53,275 OF COURSE WE WERE WORRIED BUT 517 00:16:53,275 --> 00:16:55,172 THEN WE ALSO FELT LIKE, WELL, 518 00:16:55,172 --> 00:16:57,206 SHE'S DONE WITH HIM. 519 00:16:57,206 --> 00:16:59,620 IT'S OVER, AND IT WAS NEVER 520 00:16:59,620 --> 00:16:59,862 OVER. 521 00:16:59,862 --> 00:17:02,413 >> AND PENNY SAYS AMIE WAS 522 00:17:02,413 --> 00:17:04,000 THRIVING, GETTING A DEGREE TO 523 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,482 BECOME A LICENSED THERAPIST. 524 00:17:07,482 --> 00:17:10,689 >> HI, THIS IS DR. AMIE HARWICK, 525 00:17:10,689 --> 00:17:12,205 LICENSED MARRIAGE AND FAMILY 526 00:17:12,205 --> 00:17:12,517 THERAPIST. 527 00:17:12,517 --> 00:17:16,137 >> AMIE POSTED VIDEOS ON HER 528 00:17:16,137 --> 00:17:16,517 SOCIAL MEDIA. 529 00:17:16,517 --> 00:17:18,172 >> DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, A 530 00:17:18,172 --> 00:17:20,344 BREAKUP, YOU CAN ALSO SEEK 531 00:17:20,344 --> 00:17:21,896 THERAPY TO BE A BETTER YOU. 532 00:17:21,896 --> 00:17:23,689 >> BUT EVEN AS AMIE FOCUSED ON 533 00:17:23,689 --> 00:17:26,550 HELPING OTHERS, SHE COULDN'T 534 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:28,000 QUITE SHAKE THE SHADOWS FROM HER 535 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,241 PAST. 536 00:17:28,241 --> 00:17:30,206 SHE LOST A JOB AS A YOUTH 537 00:17:30,206 --> 00:17:34,758 COUNSELOR, PENNY SAYS, AFTER A 538 00:17:34,758 --> 00:17:35,862 PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYER WAS 539 00:17:35,862 --> 00:17:38,413 ANONYMOUSLY SENT NUDE PHOTOS OF 540 00:17:38,413 --> 00:17:38,827 HER. 541 00:17:38,827 --> 00:17:40,000 AMIE BELIEVED PURSEHOUSE WAS 542 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,551 BEHIND IT. 543 00:17:40,551 --> 00:17:42,517 >> SHE WAS REALLY UPSET ABOUT 544 00:17:42,517 --> 00:17:43,862 IT, AND THEN SHE WASN'T SURE 545 00:17:43,862 --> 00:17:46,137 WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO DO. 546 00:17:46,137 --> 00:17:49,448 >> DESPITE THAT OBSTACLE, AMIE 547 00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:53,034 STUDIED FOR A Ph.D. IN HUMAN 548 00:17:53,034 --> 00:17:54,000 SEXUALITY EARNING THE TITLE 549 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,448 DOCTOR. 550 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,689 SHE TOOK A SPECIAL INTEREST IN 551 00:17:56,689 --> 00:17:59,103 MARGINALIZED GROUPS, SEX WORKERS 552 00:17:59,103 --> 00:17:59,827 AND VULNERABLE WOMEN. 553 00:17:59,827 --> 00:18:01,103 >> AND SHE OPPORTUNITY STOP. 554 00:18:01,103 --> 00:18:01,620 SHE JUST -- 555 00:18:01,620 --> 00:18:02,793 >> SHE BOUNCED RIGHT BACK. 556 00:18:02,793 --> 00:18:04,689 >> I WROTE A BOOK CALLED THE NEW 557 00:18:04,689 --> 00:18:05,379 SEX BIBLE FOR WOMEN. 558 00:18:05,379 --> 00:18:08,586 >> SHE DIDN'T STOP, SHE WOULD 559 00:18:08,586 --> 00:18:09,241 WORK WITH THESE GROUPS OF PEOPLE 560 00:18:09,241 --> 00:18:12,620 THAT SHE FELT WERE UNDER 561 00:18:12,620 --> 00:18:14,379 REPRESENTED AND KNEADEDNEEDED HELP. 562 00:18:14,379 --> 00:18:17,241 >> WHAT WAS DR. HARWICK'S 563 00:18:17,241 --> 00:18:17,551 REPUTATION? 564 00:18:17,551 --> 00:18:18,482 >> DR. AMIE HARWICK HAD AN 565 00:18:18,482 --> 00:18:20,655 AMAZING REPUTATION. 566 00:18:20,655 --> 00:18:21,275 I HAD A LOT OF MUTUAL FRIENDS 567 00:18:21,275 --> 00:18:24,586 THAT HAD SEEN HER. 568 00:18:24,586 --> 00:18:28,448 >> EMMY SEARSILY SEARS, A MODEL FIRST 569 00:18:28,448 --> 00:18:33,310 STARTED SEEING DR. AMIE HARWICK 570 00:18:33,310 --> 00:18:34,724 IN 2017 IN PART TO HELP HER 571 00:18:34,724 --> 00:18:36,448 OVERCOME ANXIETY SHE HAD AROUND 572 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:38,620 DATING AND INTIMACY. 573 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:41,000 >> I FELT THAT SHE WAS 574 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,241 RELATABLE. 575 00:18:41,241 --> 00:18:43,000 I DIDN'T KNOW JUST EXACTLY HOW 576 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,413 RELATABLE IT WAS. 577 00:18:43,413 --> 00:18:45,275 >> EVEN WHEN SHE OPENED UP TO 578 00:18:45,275 --> 00:18:51,482 AMIE ABOUT AN ABUSIVE 579 00:18:51,482 --> 00:18:52,068 EX-BOYFRIEND WHO HAD STALKED 580 00:18:52,068 --> 00:18:52,793 HER, EMILY SAYS AMIE NEVER TOLD 581 00:18:52,793 --> 00:18:54,344 HER ABOUT HER OWN SIMILAR 582 00:18:54,344 --> 00:18:56,000 EXPERIENCE. 583 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,413 >> AND THAT STILL IS SOMETHING 584 00:18:58,413 --> 00:19:00,379 THAT I AM STRUGGLING TO PROCESS 585 00:19:00,379 --> 00:19:02,206 KNOWING THAT I WAS SITTING 586 00:19:02,206 --> 00:19:04,482 ACROSS FROM HER AND SHE HAD BEEN 587 00:19:04,482 --> 00:19:05,965 THROUGH SO MUCH THAT WAS 588 00:19:05,965 --> 00:19:06,172 SIMILAR. 589 00:19:06,172 --> 00:19:09,620 >> AS AMIE WAS HELPING EMILY 590 00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:10,931 WORK THROUGH HER ISSUES AROUND 591 00:19:10,931 --> 00:19:12,655 DATING, AMIE WAS TAKING A CHANCE 592 00:19:12,655 --> 00:19:15,413 ON A NEW MAN IN HER OWN LIFE. 593 00:19:15,413 --> 00:19:16,724 >> HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY. 594 00:19:16,724 --> 00:19:18,862 >> DREW CAREY, COMEDIAN AND HOST 595 00:19:18,862 --> 00:19:21,896 OF "THE PRICE IS RIGHT" ON CBS. 596 00:19:21,896 --> 00:19:23,172 >> SHE WAS OBVIOUSLY REALLY 597 00:19:23,172 --> 00:19:24,172 BEAUTIFUL. 598 00:19:24,172 --> 00:19:24,655 SHE WAS REALLY SMART. 599 00:19:24,655 --> 00:19:26,689 SHE JUST WANTED TO HELP PEOPLE, 600 00:19:26,689 --> 00:19:30,172 ESPECIALLY WOMEN. 601 00:19:30,172 --> 00:19:33,310 >> WE SPOKE TO CAREY IN 2022. 602 00:19:33,310 --> 00:19:34,448 HE SAID IT WASN'T LONG AFTER 603 00:19:34,448 --> 00:19:37,344 MEETING AMIE AT A PARTY THAT HE 604 00:19:37,344 --> 00:19:38,344 DECIDED SHE WAS THE ONE. 605 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:39,586 AND I SAID IF THIS KEEPS GOING 606 00:19:39,586 --> 00:19:41,206 THE WAY IT'S GOING, I'M GOING TO 607 00:19:41,206 --> 00:19:41,517 MARRY HER. 608 00:19:41,517 --> 00:19:42,310 >> AND WHAT HAPPENED? 609 00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:45,034 >> WHAT HAPPENED WAS HE ENDED UP 610 00:19:45,034 --> 00:19:46,137 TAKING HER TO PARIS ON NEW 611 00:19:46,137 --> 00:19:48,000 YEAR'S EVE AND PROPOSING TO HER, 612 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,310 SHE ACCEPTED. 613 00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:50,655 >> DREW AND AMIE SHARED THE NEWS 614 00:19:50,655 --> 00:19:51,655 ON HIS SHOW SOON AFTER. 615 00:19:51,655 --> 00:19:53,551 >> I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO 616 00:19:53,551 --> 00:19:58,172 MY BRAND NEW LOVELY FIANCEE, 617 00:19:58,172 --> 00:19:59,620 AMIE. 618 00:19:59,620 --> 00:20:02,000 REST OF THEIR LIVES TOGETHER, 619 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,103 LATER THAT YEAR THE COUPLE SPLIT 620 00:20:05,103 --> 00:20:05,275 UP. 621 00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:07,482 >> HOW DID SHE TAKE THE BREAKUP? 622 00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:10,965 >> SHE WAS DEVASTATED. 623 00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:12,448 I MEAN, SHE BROKE IT OFF, AND I 624 00:20:12,448 --> 00:20:13,758 THINK THAT'S BECAUSE, WELL, FAME 625 00:20:13,758 --> 00:20:14,862 WAS GETTING IN THE WAY. 626 00:20:14,862 --> 00:20:17,310 >> THAT'S BECAUSE, SAYS PENNY, 627 00:20:17,310 --> 00:20:19,068 AMIE FEARED THAT WITH THE ADDED 628 00:20:19,068 --> 00:20:20,896 PUBLIC ATTENTION SHE WAS GETTING 629 00:20:20,896 --> 00:20:23,448 WHILE ON THE ARM OF A CELEBRITY, 630 00:20:23,448 --> 00:20:26,517 SHE COULD BE PUTTING HERSELF IN 631 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:27,931 DANGER. 632 00:20:27,931 --> 00:20:30,137 >> YOU KNOW WHO WAS WATCHING AND 633 00:20:30,137 --> 00:20:56,206 >> YOU KNOW WHO WAS WATCHING AND IT MADE HER WORRY. 634 00:20:56,206 --> 00:20:57,724 IT MADE HER WORRY. 635 00:20:57,724 --> 00:21:01,724 >>> IT HURT A LOT AFTER AMIE 636 00:21:01,724 --> 00:21:03,724 PASED IN THE WAY THAT SHE DID 637 00:21:03,724 --> 00:21:06,620 HOW DANGEROUS IT REALLY IS FOR 638 00:21:06,620 --> 00:21:06,862 WOMEN. 639 00:21:06,862 --> 00:21:08,931 >> EMILY SEARS, ONE OF AMIE 640 00:21:08,931 --> 00:21:11,103 HARWICK'S THERAPY CLIENTS WAS 641 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:12,000 SHAKEN BY THE NEWS OF HER DEATH. 642 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,931 >> THE REALITY IS WE'RE NOT 643 00:21:13,931 --> 00:21:14,482 SAFE. 644 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:14,965 NOBODY IS. 645 00:21:14,965 --> 00:21:17,344 >> IN DEALING WITH SOME DOMESTIC 646 00:21:17,344 --> 00:21:18,931 VIOLENCE CASES, THIS WAS A BIT 647 00:21:18,931 --> 00:21:19,172 DIFFERENT. 648 00:21:19,172 --> 00:21:20,620 THE WAY GARETH PURSEHOUSE ACTED 649 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:22,034 IN THIS CASE WAS MORE 650 00:21:22,034 --> 00:21:22,620 METHODICAL. 651 00:21:22,620 --> 00:21:26,655 >> WHEN DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY 652 00:21:26,655 --> 00:21:27,586 VICTOR AVILA TOOK ON THE CASE, 653 00:21:27,586 --> 00:21:29,448 HE WAS PARTICULARLY TROUBLED BY 654 00:21:29,448 --> 00:21:30,586 EVIDENCE THAT PURSEHOUSE HAD 655 00:21:30,586 --> 00:21:32,689 BROKEN INTO AMIE'S HOUSE HOPING 656 00:21:32,689 --> 00:21:35,000 TO CATCH HER OFFGUARD WHEN SHE 657 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,551 ARRIVED HOME. 658 00:21:35,551 --> 00:21:37,689 >> AND THAT'S AT THE POINT THAT 659 00:21:37,689 --> 00:21:39,137 WE DECIDED TO CHARGE NOT ONLY 660 00:21:39,137 --> 00:21:40,655 THE MURDER CHARGE BUT ALSO THE 661 00:21:40,655 --> 00:21:42,137 SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OF LYING IN 662 00:21:42,137 --> 00:21:42,344 WAIT. 663 00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,482 >> THESE ARE THE CRIME SCENE 664 00:21:44,482 --> 00:21:44,724 NOTES. 665 00:21:44,724 --> 00:21:46,689 >> AVILA ALONG WITH HIS 666 00:21:46,689 --> 00:21:48,000 COCOUNSEL DEPUTY DISTRICT 667 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,793 ATTORNEY CATHERINE MARIANO 668 00:21:49,793 --> 00:21:51,000 REVIEWED SURVEILLANCE AND BODY 669 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,793 CAMERA VIDEO, INTERVIEWS WITH 670 00:21:52,793 --> 00:21:54,965 AMIE'S FAMILY AND FRIENDS, AND 671 00:21:54,965 --> 00:21:56,344 COMPILED A TIME LINE OF THE 672 00:21:56,344 --> 00:21:58,482 EVENTS LEADING UP TO THE MURDER. 673 00:21:58,482 --> 00:22:00,068 >> IT BECAME VERY CLEAR TO ME 674 00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:04,172 THAT HIS OBSESSION DROVE HIS 675 00:22:04,172 --> 00:22:07,827 INTENT TO KILL HER. 676 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:11,551 >> THEY BELIEVE THAT PURSEHOUSE 677 00:22:11,551 --> 00:22:12,068 PURSEHOUSE'S OBSESSION WITH AMIE 678 00:22:12,068 --> 00:22:12,758 WAS IGNITED WHEN HE SAW HER AT 679 00:22:12,758 --> 00:22:14,379 THIS AWARDS SHOW ABOUT A MONTH 680 00:22:14,379 --> 00:22:15,413 BEFORE HER MURDER. 681 00:22:15,413 --> 00:22:19,827 IT WAS A CHANCE ENCOUNTER, 682 00:22:19,827 --> 00:22:21,586 PURSEHOUSE WORKING THE FWIGGIG AS A 683 00:22:21,586 --> 00:22:24,620 PHOTOGRAPHER, AMIE SMILING FOR 684 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:25,137 THE CAMERAS ENJOYING THE 685 00:22:25,137 --> 00:22:25,758 LIMELIGHT 686 00:22:25,758 --> 00:22:26,379 LIMELIGHT, BUT MOMENTUMS EARLIER 687 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:29,275 OFF CAMERA, WITNESSES SAY AN 688 00:22:29,275 --> 00:22:31,965 ANGRY PURSEHOUSE CONFRONTED HER. 689 00:22:31,965 --> 00:22:34,034 PENNY HARWICK RECALLS AMIE 690 00:22:34,034 --> 00:22:35,620 TELLING HER SHE HADN'T SEEN HIM 691 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:38,034 IN ALMOST A DECADE. 692 00:22:38,034 --> 00:22:43,827 >> HE CALLED HER A BITCH AND 693 00:22:43,827 --> 00:22:44,517 TOLD HER SHE RUINED HIS LIFE AND 694 00:22:44,517 --> 00:22:47,620 SHE JUST TOLD ME HOW AFRAID SHE 695 00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:49,517 WAS BECAUSE HE WAS CRYING AND 696 00:22:49,517 --> 00:22:50,379 CAUSING A HUGE SCENE. 697 00:22:50,379 --> 00:22:51,862 SHE SAID MOM, I WENT INTO 698 00:22:51,862 --> 00:22:53,000 THERAPIST MODE. 699 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,482 I JUST TRIED TO CALM HIM. 700 00:22:55,482 --> 00:22:57,344 >> AFTER TALKING TO GARETH FOR 701 00:22:57,344 --> 00:23:00,241 ALMOST AN HOUR, AMIE LEFT THE 702 00:23:00,241 --> 00:23:01,862 EVENT VERY WORRIED. 703 00:23:01,862 --> 00:23:03,758 >> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION, 704 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:04,965 PENNY, WHEN SHE WAS TELLING YOU 705 00:23:04,965 --> 00:23:05,551 THIS? 706 00:23:05,551 --> 00:23:08,068 >> THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT 707 00:23:08,068 --> 00:23:10,034 SECURITY, AND SHE SAID SHE WAS 708 00:23:10,034 --> 00:23:10,620 GOING TO GET PEPPER SPRAY. 709 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:13,620 >> WE DECIDED TO START SHARING 710 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:14,241 LOCATIONS SO I COULD TRACK WHERE 711 00:23:14,241 --> 00:23:14,517 SHE WAS. 712 00:23:14,517 --> 00:23:16,275 >> HER CLOSE FRIEND ROBERT 713 00:23:16,275 --> 00:23:17,206 COSHLAND SAID SHARING HER 714 00:23:17,206 --> 00:23:18,310 PHONE'S LOCATION WAS ONE OF THE 715 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:20,206 FEW THINGS AMIE FELT SHE COULD 716 00:23:20,206 --> 00:23:23,000 DO TO FEEL SAFE. 717 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,241 THE RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST 718 00:23:24,241 --> 00:23:25,862 PURSEHOUSE HAD LONG EXPIRED, AND 719 00:23:25,862 --> 00:23:28,068 BECAUSE PURSEHOUSE HADN'T 720 00:23:28,068 --> 00:23:30,275 EXPRESSLY THREATENED HER, ROBERT 721 00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:31,965 SAYS SHE DIDN'T THINK GOING TO 722 00:23:31,965 --> 00:23:33,689 POLICE WOULD HELP. 723 00:23:33,689 --> 00:23:38,034 STILL, HE SAYS, AMIE WAS VERY 724 00:23:38,034 --> 00:23:38,344 CONCERNED. 725 00:23:38,344 --> 00:23:39,620 >> THAT'S WHEN SHE SAID, LOOK, 726 00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:41,068 IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, HE 727 00:23:41,068 --> 00:23:41,827 DID IT. 728 00:23:41,827 --> 00:23:43,275 >> SHE ACTUALLY SAID THAT? 729 00:23:43,275 --> 00:23:45,000 >> SHE LITERALLY SAID THAT. 730 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,103 >> SHE'S THINKING THAT HE CAN 731 00:23:46,103 --> 00:23:47,724 CAUSE ME HARM AND THE VERY NEXT 732 00:23:47,724 --> 00:23:49,172 DAY HE FINDS HER PHONE ON THE 733 00:23:49,172 --> 00:23:51,275 INTERNET AND STARTS TEXTING HER. 734 00:23:51,275 --> 00:23:53,413 >> GARETH SENT AMIE A SERIES OF 735 00:23:53,413 --> 00:23:58,655 TEXTS AND LATER LEFT HER A 736 00:23:58,655 --> 00:23:59,551 TEAR-FILLED VOICE MAIL. 737 00:23:59,551 --> 00:24:02,482 >> I HAVE SO MUCH I NEED TO SAY. 738 00:24:02,482 --> 00:24:08,379 PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE TO SAY 739 00:24:08,379 --> 00:24:08,551 IT. 740 00:24:08,551 --> 00:24:08,793 PLEASE. 741 00:24:08,793 --> 00:24:09,172 PLEASE. 742 00:24:09,172 --> 00:24:10,862 >> THAT'S WHEN PROSECUTORS SAY 743 00:24:10,862 --> 00:24:13,793 AMIE DECIDED TO BLOCK HIS 744 00:24:13,793 --> 00:24:14,000 NUMBER. 745 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 >> I BELIEVE UP AND TO THAT 746 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 POINT, HE WAS TRYING TO 747 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 MANIPULATE HIS WAY BACK INTO HER 748 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,137 LIFE, AT THE POINT THAT HE MADE 749 00:24:19,137 --> 00:24:20,517 THE DECISION TO BLOCK HIM, THAT 750 00:24:20,517 --> 00:24:21,931 WAS HER CHOICE AND SHE HAD THAT 751 00:24:21,931 --> 00:24:22,965 RIGHT TO DO THAT. 752 00:24:22,965 --> 00:24:24,758 >> PROSECUTORS SAY PURSEHOUSE 753 00:24:24,758 --> 00:24:27,655 STARTED TO PLAN TO KILL AMIE ON 754 00:24:27,655 --> 00:24:28,344 VALENTINE'S DAY. 755 00:24:28,344 --> 00:24:29,793 >> WAS THAT JUST A RANDOM DATE? 756 00:24:29,793 --> 00:24:31,137 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. 757 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,551 I THINK HE WANTED TO MAKE A 758 00:24:33,551 --> 00:24:35,379 STATEMENT BY KILLING HER ON 759 00:24:35,379 --> 00:24:36,379 VALENTINE'S DAY. 760 00:24:36,379 --> 00:24:39,931 >> ON FEBRUARY 14th, 2020, AMIE 761 00:24:39,931 --> 00:24:41,482 WENT OUT WITH A GROUP OF FRIENDS 762 00:24:41,482 --> 00:24:42,241 AROUND 7:00 P.M. 763 00:24:42,241 --> 00:24:44,655 TWO HOURS LATER SAY PROSECUTORS, 764 00:24:44,655 --> 00:24:46,103 SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS FROM HER 765 00:24:46,103 --> 00:24:47,965 NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY 766 00:24:47,965 --> 00:24:49,413 WERE ACTIVATED. 767 00:24:49,413 --> 00:24:51,551 >> YOU GET THOSE RING CAMERAS 768 00:24:51,551 --> 00:24:53,137 THAT SHOW A PERSON THAT LOOKS 769 00:24:53,137 --> 00:24:55,655 JUST LIKE GARETH PURSEHOUSE WITH 770 00:24:55,655 --> 00:24:55,896 GLOVES. 771 00:24:55,896 --> 00:24:58,724 >> WHEN HE FIRST COMES INTO 772 00:24:58,724 --> 00:24:59,965 VIEW, HE COVERS THE CAMERA. 773 00:24:59,965 --> 00:25:01,379 WHEN THE CAMERA SENSES NO MORE 774 00:25:01,379 --> 00:25:03,034 MOTION, IT SHUTS OFF. 775 00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:08,413 AND THEN HE HOPS OVER THE FENCE. 776 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:09,482 DPL INTO 777 00:25:09,482 --> 00:25:09,793 DPL 778 00:25:09,793 --> 00:25:11,034 >> INTO AMIE'S YARD. 779 00:25:11,034 --> 00:25:12,862 SOON AFTER, THEY BELIEVE 780 00:25:12,862 --> 00:25:13,655 PURSEHOUSE BROKE THROUGH THAT 781 00:25:13,655 --> 00:25:14,068 FRENCH DOOR. 782 00:25:14,068 --> 00:25:15,137 >> THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH 783 00:25:15,137 --> 00:25:16,448 MICHAEL HERMAN. 784 00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:17,551 HE HEARD SOMETHING BREAKING 785 00:25:17,551 --> 00:25:18,758 UPSTAIRS EARLY IN THE EVENING. 786 00:25:18,758 --> 00:25:20,482 >> AND I THINK HE JUST GOT INTO 787 00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:22,896 THE HOUSE, CUT HIMSELF. 788 00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:23,620 I DON'T THINK HE EVEN REALIZED 789 00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:26,000 HE CUT HIMSELF. 790 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,655 >> LEAVING THAT BLOOD POLICE 791 00:25:27,655 --> 00:25:29,586 LATER FOUND NEARBY. 792 00:25:29,586 --> 00:25:32,965 DNA TESTING WOULD CONFIRM IT 793 00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:34,482 BELONGED TO PURSEHOUSE. 794 00:25:34,482 --> 00:25:37,137 AND DETECTIVE MASTERSON SAYS 795 00:25:37,137 --> 00:25:40,068 WHERE PURSEHOUSE WENT NEXT WAS 796 00:25:40,068 --> 00:25:42,103 REVEALED BY AMIE'S UNMADE BED. 797 00:25:42,103 --> 00:25:43,931 >> I THINK HE CLIMBED IN HER 798 00:25:43,931 --> 00:25:44,103 BED. 799 00:25:44,103 --> 00:25:46,724 HE WAS THERE WAITING FOR HER FOR 800 00:25:46,724 --> 00:25:47,103 QUITE A WHILE. 801 00:25:47,103 --> 00:25:48,655 >> HOW CREEPY IS THAT? 802 00:25:48,655 --> 00:25:51,931 >> CRAZY CREEPY. 803 00:25:51,931 --> 00:25:54,448 >> THAT'S WHERE MASTER 804 00:25:54,448 --> 00:25:57,000 ONBELIEVESONMASTERSON 805 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,482 BELIEVES AMIE FOUND HIM FOUR 806 00:25:58,482 --> 00:25:59,310 HOURS LATER WHEN SHE ARRIVED 807 00:25:59,310 --> 00:26:01,206 HOME A LITTLE AFTER 1:00 A.M. 808 00:26:01,206 --> 00:26:02,586 >> SHE WALKS INTO HER BEDROOM, 809 00:26:02,586 --> 00:26:04,034 AND I THINK SHE JUST FROZE IN 810 00:26:04,034 --> 00:26:06,862 HOCK AND FEAR AND THE ONE THING 811 00:26:06,862 --> 00:26:12,448 THAT WAS ON THE BED WAS HER 812 00:26:12,448 --> 00:26:13,586 PHONE, O'I THINK SHE 813 00:26:13,586 --> 00:26:14,241 PHONE, SO I THINK SHE ACTUALLY 814 00:26:14,241 --> 00:26:15,000 THREW HER PHONE AT HIM AND 815 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 TURNED AND STARTED TO RUN OUT OF 816 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,965 THE BEDROOM, AND SHE'S SCREAMING 817 00:26:16,965 --> 00:26:18,793 AND THEY'RE FIGHTING AND THEY'RE 818 00:26:18,793 --> 00:26:19,068 WRESTLING. 819 00:26:19,068 --> 00:26:20,344 >> HOW HARD DID AMIE FIGHT FOR 820 00:26:20,344 --> 00:26:20,862 HER LIFE? 821 00:26:20,862 --> 00:26:22,172 >> I THINK SHE FOUGHT WITH 822 00:26:22,172 --> 00:26:23,000 EVERYTHING SHE HAD. 823 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,517 >> HE HAD SOMETHING THAT 824 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:26,344 APPEARED TO LOOK LIKE A BITE 825 00:26:26,344 --> 00:26:28,379 MARK ON HIS BICEPS. 826 00:26:28,379 --> 00:26:29,724 >> AND PURSEHOUSE ALSO HAD THAT 827 00:26:29,724 --> 00:26:30,310 BLACK EYE. 828 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:31,827 >> TO US IT WAS INDICATIVE OF 829 00:26:31,827 --> 00:26:34,862 AMIE FIGHTING FOR HER LIFE BUT 830 00:26:34,862 --> 00:26:36,379 SHE WAS OBVIOUSLY UP AGAINST A 831 00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:38,172 MUCH BIGGER, STRONGER OPPONENT. 832 00:26:38,172 --> 00:26:39,275 >> PROSECUTORS BELIEVE 833 00:26:39,275 --> 00:26:41,275 PURSEHOUSE STARTED CHOKING AMIE 834 00:26:41,275 --> 00:26:45,068 AND THAT'S WHEN MICHAEL HERMAN 835 00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:46,068 YELLED, THEY BELIEVE, CATCHING 836 00:26:46,068 --> 00:26:47,620 PURSEHOUSE BY SURPRISE. 837 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:49,000 >> AND I THINK THAT PLAN WAS 838 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:55,172 DEFINITELY THWARTED BY THE UNBE 839 00:26:55,172 --> 00:26:56,172 UNBEKNOWNST PRESENCE OF MICHAEL 840 00:26:56,172 --> 00:26:56,758 HERMAN THERE. 841 00:26:56,758 --> 00:26:58,793 >> IN HIS PANIC, THEY BELIEVE 842 00:26:58,793 --> 00:27:00,241 PURSEHOUSE DROPPED THAT SYRINGE 843 00:27:00,241 --> 00:27:01,758 POLICE POUND ON THE BALCONY. 844 00:27:01,758 --> 00:27:05,137 IT WAS MONTHS BEFORE LAB TESTS 845 00:27:05,137 --> 00:27:07,586 REVEALED WHAT IT CONTAINED. 846 00:27:07,586 --> 00:27:08,000 LIQUID NICOTINE. 847 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,931 >> A TOXIC POISON THAT IF 848 00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:13,586 INJECTED INTO SOMEONE IT WOULD 849 00:27:13,586 --> 00:27:14,275 KILL THEM. 850 00:27:14,275 --> 00:27:19,689 >> WHY KILL HER THAT WAY? 851 00:27:19,689 --> 00:27:20,241 >> WITH THAT LETHAL DOSE OF 852 00:27:20,241 --> 00:27:20,896 NICOTINE PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW 853 00:27:20,896 --> 00:27:21,551 WHAT KILLED HER. 854 00:27:21,551 --> 00:27:22,758 IT MAY NOT BE DETECTED. 855 00:27:22,758 --> 00:27:25,310 >> WITH HIS ORIGINAL PLAN 856 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,655 INTERRUPTED, PROSECUTORS BELIEVE 857 00:27:27,655 --> 00:27:29,793 THAT PURSEHOUSE CARRIED AMIE, 858 00:27:29,793 --> 00:27:31,931 BARELY CONSCIOUS AFTER BEING 859 00:27:31,931 --> 00:27:33,517 STRANGLED TO THE THIRD STORY 860 00:27:33,517 --> 00:27:33,793 BALCONY. 861 00:27:33,793 --> 00:27:35,517 >> HE LIFTS HER RIGHT OVER THE 862 00:27:35,517 --> 00:27:38,724 RAIL AND THEN DROPS HER TO KILL 863 00:27:38,724 --> 00:27:39,103 HER. 864 00:27:39,103 --> 00:27:39,758 >> GARETH PURSEHOUSE IS CAUGHT 865 00:27:39,758 --> 00:27:41,172 ON THE NEIGHBOR'S CAMERA HOPPING 866 00:27:41,172 --> 00:27:44,448 BACK OVER THE FENCE. 867 00:27:44,448 --> 00:27:46,689 WITH THEIR SUSPECT AND THEORY OF 868 00:27:46,689 --> 00:27:49,034 THE CRIME, THE PROSECUTORS WERE 869 00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:51,896 READY FOR TRIAL, BUT THEY WERE 870 00:27:51,896 --> 00:27:54,758 SURPRISED BY GARETH PURSEHOUSE'S 871 00:27:54,758 --> 00:27:57,068 DEFENSE, BLAMING AMIE FOR WHAT 872 00:27:57,068 --> 00:28:06,482 DEFENSE, BLAMING AMIE FOR WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. 873 00:28:06,482 --> 00:28:12,724 HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. 874 00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:14,931 >>> IN AUGUST 2023, MORE THAN 875 00:28:14,931 --> 00:28:16,827 THREE YEARS AFTER AMIE HARWICK'S 876 00:28:16,827 --> 00:28:19,965 DEATH, HER ACCUSED KILLER GARETH 877 00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:21,137 PURSEHOUSE WENT ON TRIAL. 878 00:28:21,137 --> 00:28:22,413 >> I ALMOST DIDN'T RECOGNIZE 879 00:28:22,413 --> 00:28:22,620 HIM. 880 00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:24,689 >> RIGHT. 881 00:28:24,689 --> 00:28:27,344 >> IN THEIR OPENING STATEMENTS, 882 00:28:27,344 --> 00:28:29,482 PROSECUTORS VICTOR AVILA AND 883 00:28:29,482 --> 00:28:31,931 CATHERINE MARIANO TOLD JURORS 884 00:28:31,931 --> 00:28:35,689 WHY AND HOW THEY BELIEVE 885 00:28:35,689 --> 00:28:37,000 PURSEHOUSE ENDED AMIE'S LIFE IN 886 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,965 THE EARLY MORNING OF FEBRUARY 887 00:28:38,965 --> 00:28:41,413 15th, 2020. 888 00:28:41,413 --> 00:28:44,862 >> AMIE HARWICK WAS MURDERED BY 889 00:28:44,862 --> 00:28:45,758 DEFENDANT GARETH PURSEHOUSE 890 00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:48,689 BECAUSE HE WAS OBSESSED WITH 891 00:28:48,689 --> 00:28:48,862 HER. 892 00:28:48,862 --> 00:28:53,137 HE STRANGLED HER, LIFTED HER UP 893 00:28:53,137 --> 00:28:53,793 OVER THE BALCONY AND DROPPED HER 894 00:28:53,793 --> 00:28:54,137 TO HER DEATH. 895 00:28:54,137 --> 00:28:57,448 >> I JUST PRAY THAT AMIE WAS 896 00:28:57,448 --> 00:28:58,413 UNCONSCIOUS WHEN SHE WAS -- WHEN 897 00:28:58,413 --> 00:29:01,517 SHE WENT OVER THE BALCONY. 898 00:29:01,517 --> 00:29:03,379 >> TOM AND PENNY SAT THROUGH 899 00:29:03,379 --> 00:29:05,620 EVERY SECOND OF THE TRIAL, EVEN 900 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:08,551 THE MOST GRAPHIC MOMENTS. 901 00:29:08,551 --> 00:29:09,965 >> WEI NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED 902 00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:12,758 TO MY DAUGHTER. 903 00:29:12,758 --> 00:29:14,068 >> AND WEPD TO BE THERE FOR AMIE 904 00:29:14,068 --> 00:29:15,172 THROUGH THE WHOLE ORDEAL. 905 00:29:15,172 --> 00:29:16,758 >> BUT THE HARWICKS WERE NOT 906 00:29:16,758 --> 00:29:17,793 ALONE, ALSO IN THE COURTROOM A 907 00:29:17,793 --> 00:29:20,517 SMALL ARMY OF AMIE'S FRIENDS, 908 00:29:20,517 --> 00:29:21,931 INCLUDING RUDY TORRES. 909 00:29:21,931 --> 00:29:23,448 >> THIS IS THE LAST THING I 910 00:29:23,448 --> 00:29:27,103 COULD EVER DO FOR HER. 911 00:29:27,103 --> 00:29:29,206 >> ALTHOUGH FORTIFIED BY HER 912 00:29:29,206 --> 00:29:29,862 FRIENDS, NOTHING COULD PREPARE 913 00:29:29,862 --> 00:29:32,724 THE HARWICKS TO HEAR FOR THE 914 00:29:32,724 --> 00:29:35,827 FIRST TIME EVER GARETH 915 00:29:35,827 --> 00:29:36,551 PURSEHOUSE'S EXPLANATION ABOUT 916 00:29:36,551 --> 00:29:40,379 WHAT HAPPENED THE NIGHT AMIE 917 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:40,862 DIED. 918 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:42,758 DEFENSE ATTORNEY EVAN FRANZEL 919 00:29:42,758 --> 00:29:46,206 CLAIMS THAT RUNNING INTO AMIE IN 920 00:29:46,206 --> 00:29:50,000 JANUARY 2020 AT THAT AWARDS SHOW 921 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,724 HAD SENT PURSEHOUSE INTO, QUOTE, 922 00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:53,655 A DEEP DEBILITATING DEPRESSION, 923 00:29:53,655 --> 00:29:55,620 UNQUOTE, AND THE ONLY WAY OUT OF 924 00:29:55,620 --> 00:30:00,103 IT WAS TO TALK TO AMIE ON 925 00:30:00,103 --> 00:30:01,689 VALENTINE'S DAY, 2020. 926 00:30:01,689 --> 00:30:02,620 >> HIS ONLY INTENTION THAT NIGHT 927 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:03,655 WAS TO SPEAK TO HER. 928 00:30:03,655 --> 00:30:05,275 >> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO 929 00:30:05,275 --> 00:30:06,482 THAT? 930 00:30:06,482 --> 00:30:08,275 >> BULL [ BLEEP ] TO PUT IT 931 00:30:08,275 --> 00:30:08,517 BLUNTLY. 932 00:30:08,517 --> 00:30:11,275 THEY'RE MAKING UP STORIES 933 00:30:11,275 --> 00:30:12,689 BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO DEFENSE. 934 00:30:12,689 --> 00:30:15,586 >> AND AS FOR THAT 935 00:30:15,586 --> 00:30:16,827 NICOTINE-FILLED SYRINGE FOUND AT 936 00:30:16,827 --> 00:30:19,551 THE CRIME SCENE, PURSEHOUSE'S 937 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:20,206 DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAYS IT WASN'T 938 00:30:20,206 --> 00:30:20,689 FOR AMIE. 939 00:30:20,689 --> 00:30:22,344 >> HE BROUGHT IT INTENDING TO 940 00:30:22,344 --> 00:30:23,000 KILL HIMSELF. 941 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,103 >> WHY DIDN'T HE? 942 00:30:26,103 --> 00:30:27,000 >> HE WAS ON A MISSION TO KILL 943 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,206 HER. 944 00:30:27,206 --> 00:30:27,931 >> HE WAS WEARING GLOVES WHEN HE 945 00:30:27,931 --> 00:30:28,379 WENT THERE. 946 00:30:28,379 --> 00:30:29,793 HE COVERED UP THE CAMERAS. 947 00:30:29,793 --> 00:30:32,620 WHAT'S THE PURPOSE IN DOING ALL 948 00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:33,586 THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO KILL 949 00:30:33,586 --> 00:30:35,689 YOURSELF THERE IN FRONT OF HER? 950 00:30:35,689 --> 00:30:36,965 >> THE DEFENSE TELLS THE JURORS 951 00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:39,586 THEY WILL HEAR FROM AN ACCIDENT 952 00:30:39,586 --> 00:30:40,275 RECONSTRUCTIONIST WHO WILL SHOW 953 00:30:40,275 --> 00:30:43,310 THAT AMIE FELL ON HER OWN. 954 00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:46,275 DEFENSE ATTORNEY FRANZEL THEN 955 00:30:46,275 --> 00:30:49,310 SHOWS THE JURY TWO IMAGES, A 956 00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:50,310 SCREEN SHOT OF THE 957 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:51,379 RECONSTRUCTION SHOWING AN 958 00:30:51,379 --> 00:30:53,206 ANIMATED FIGURE HANGING FROM THE 959 00:30:53,206 --> 00:30:56,000 BALCONY AND AN UNDATED PHOTO OF 960 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,965 AMIE POSING ON TOP OF A BALCONY 961 00:30:58,965 --> 00:30:59,551 RAILING. 962 00:30:59,551 --> 00:31:03,206 >> YOU WILL SEE THAT SHE HAD A 963 00:31:03,206 --> 00:31:04,827 CERTAIN COMFORT LEVEL WITH A 964 00:31:04,827 --> 00:31:06,931 BALCONY RAILING. 965 00:31:06,931 --> 00:31:09,137 >> BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY, WASN'T 966 00:31:09,137 --> 00:31:09,310 SHE? 967 00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:10,379 SHE LOOKED GLORIOUS. 968 00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:11,793 >> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION? 969 00:31:11,793 --> 00:31:12,724 >> RIDICULOUS. 970 00:31:12,724 --> 00:31:14,241 >> I COULDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. 971 00:31:14,241 --> 00:31:17,517 IT WAS JUST SO FARFETCHED TO ME. 972 00:31:17,517 --> 00:31:19,896 >> SHE'S BEEN STRANGLED, SHE'S 973 00:31:19,896 --> 00:31:22,413 DEBILITATED, SO FOR HER TO THEN 974 00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:25,689 WALK, CRIME OAFVER A THREE FOOT 975 00:31:25,689 --> 00:31:27,068 RAIL, DO ALL THAT, IT DOESN'T 976 00:31:27,068 --> 00:31:28,931 SEEM REASONABLE, IT SEEMS 977 00:31:28,931 --> 00:31:29,689 ACTUALLY UNREASONABLE. 978 00:31:29,689 --> 00:31:30,827 >> THE DEFENSE'S OPENING 979 00:31:30,827 --> 00:31:32,724 CONCLUDES WITH THIS DAMNING 980 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:33,000 OMISSION. 981 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,241 >> YES, GARETH PURSEHOUSE WAS 982 00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:36,241 WAITING IN HER HOME. 983 00:31:36,241 --> 00:31:37,448 HE BROKE INTO HER HOME. 984 00:31:37,448 --> 00:31:40,655 HAD HE NOT BEEN THERE, SHE 985 00:31:40,655 --> 00:31:43,206 WOULDN'T HAVE DIED THAT NIGHT. 986 00:31:43,206 --> 00:31:44,931 THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE. 987 00:31:44,931 --> 00:31:48,482 HE SET THE CHAIN OF ACTIONS INTO 988 00:31:48,482 --> 00:31:52,724 MOTION THAT LED TO HER DEATH, 989 00:31:52,724 --> 00:31:54,206 BUT THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW THAT 990 00:31:54,206 --> 00:32:01,793 HE NEVER INTENDED ON KILLING 991 00:32:01,793 --> 00:32:01,965 HER. 992 00:32:01,965 --> 00:32:02,586 >> OVER THE COURSE OF TEN DAYS, 993 00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:03,206 THE PROSECUTION PRESENTED ITS 994 00:32:03,206 --> 00:32:05,413 EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT GARETH 995 00:32:05,413 --> 00:32:07,517 PURSEHOUSE DID INTEND TO KILL 996 00:32:07,517 --> 00:32:08,620 AMIE HARWICK. 997 00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:11,034 DOZENS OF WITNESSES TESTIFIED 998 00:32:11,034 --> 00:32:12,862 FOR THE STATE INCLUDING 999 00:32:12,862 --> 00:32:16,896 DETECTIVE MASTERSON NOW RETIRED, 1000 00:32:16,896 --> 00:32:19,103 ROBERT COSHLAND. 1001 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:22,172 >> AND OF COURSE AMIE'S 1002 00:32:22,172 --> 00:32:23,551 ROOMMATE, MICHAEL HERMAN, THE 1003 00:32:23,551 --> 00:32:25,896 MAN WHO HEARD IT ALL. 1004 00:32:25,896 --> 00:32:27,310 MICHAEL DESCRIBED FOR THE JURY 1005 00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:29,758 HOW AFTER THAT INCIDENT ON THE 1006 00:32:29,758 --> 00:32:32,034 RED CARPET, AMIE HAD BEEN 1007 00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:33,758 CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE FRENCH 1008 00:32:33,758 --> 00:32:36,413 DOORS THAT PURSEHOUSE WOULD 1009 00:32:36,413 --> 00:32:37,482 LATER USE TO BREAK INTO HER 1010 00:32:37,482 --> 00:32:38,000 HOME. 1011 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,586 >> AMIE HAD MET WITH A HANDYMAN, 1012 00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:43,034 I REMEMBER. 1013 00:32:43,034 --> 00:32:44,793 THEY WERE OVER BY THE GLASS 1014 00:32:44,793 --> 00:32:46,724 DOORS AND AMIE WAS POINTING IT 1015 00:32:46,724 --> 00:32:50,310 OUT, AND TELLING HIM WE NEED TO 1016 00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:51,000 SECURE THIS. 1017 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,517 >> PROSECUTORS ALSO PLAYED FOR 1018 00:32:52,517 --> 00:32:54,689 THE JURY THIS TAPED JAIL 1019 00:32:54,689 --> 00:32:56,310 CONVERSATION BETWEEN PURSEHOUSE 1020 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:58,586 AND HIS FRIENDS AFTER HIS 1021 00:32:58,586 --> 00:32:58,862 ARREST. 1022 00:32:58,862 --> 00:33:00,241 >> I GUESS I'M OFFICIALLY A BAD 1023 00:33:00,241 --> 00:33:01,310 BOY NOW, RIGHT? 1024 00:33:01,310 --> 00:33:03,413 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF -- 1025 00:33:03,413 --> 00:33:05,758 >> THIS IS A COUPLE OF WEEKS 1026 00:33:05,758 --> 00:33:07,655 AFTER HE'S BEEN ARRESTED FOR 1027 00:33:07,655 --> 00:33:07,896 MURDER. 1028 00:33:07,896 --> 00:33:09,275 HE'S LAUGHING WITH HIS FRIENDS. 1029 00:33:09,275 --> 00:33:10,586 YOU NEVER HEAR ANY MOMENT OF 1030 00:33:10,586 --> 00:33:11,862 CONCERN FOR AMIE DURING THAT 1031 00:33:11,862 --> 00:33:12,758 CALL. 1032 00:33:12,758 --> 00:33:15,000 YEAH, SO [ BLEEP ] IT'S NOT 1033 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,172 GREAT. 1034 00:33:15,172 --> 00:33:16,724 I'M NOT GETTING OUT OF HERE. 1035 00:33:16,724 --> 00:33:17,931 >> WHY WAS THAT IMPORTANT? 1036 00:33:17,931 --> 00:33:20,068 >> I THINK THAT'S ONE PIECE OF 1037 00:33:20,068 --> 00:33:21,931 EVIDENCE TO SHOW A CONSCIOUSNESS 1038 00:33:21,931 --> 00:33:23,344 OF GUILT, SO HE KNOWS WHAT'S 1039 00:33:23,344 --> 00:33:24,448 COMING BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE 1040 00:33:24,448 --> 00:33:25,551 SHOWS WHAT HE DID. 1041 00:33:25,551 --> 00:33:27,000 IT PROVES WHAT HE DID. 1042 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,896 >> WHEN IT WAS THE DEFENSE'S 1043 00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:30,931 TURN TO PRESENT ITS CASE AND 1044 00:33:30,931 --> 00:33:32,896 CALL ITS EXPERT WITNESS TO SHOW 1045 00:33:32,896 --> 00:33:34,965 HOW AMIE'S FALL FROM THE BALCONY 1046 00:33:34,965 --> 00:33:38,413 WAS AN ACCIDENT, THE DEFENSE 1047 00:33:38,413 --> 00:33:41,000 SUDDENLY RESTED WITHOUT CALLING 1048 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,413 A SINGLE WITNESS. 1049 00:33:42,413 --> 00:33:45,482 >> DIDN'T THAT HURT THE DEFENSE? 1050 00:33:45,482 --> 00:33:48,137 >> I AM SURE SOME JURORS WERE 1051 00:33:48,137 --> 00:33:50,482 WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED, SO I 1052 00:33:50,482 --> 00:33:51,103 DON'T THINK THAT HELPS. 1053 00:33:51,103 --> 00:33:52,896 >> DURING CLOSING ARGUMENTS, 1054 00:33:52,896 --> 00:33:55,172 DEFENSE ATTORNEY ROBIN 1055 00:33:55,172 --> 00:33:56,310 BERNSTEIN-LEV PRESENTED A NEW 1056 00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:57,241 THEORY OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT 1057 00:33:57,241 --> 00:33:59,379 NIGHT, THAT AMIE MAY HAVE 1058 00:33:59,379 --> 00:34:00,448 ATTACKED PURSEHOUSE. 1059 00:34:00,448 --> 00:34:08,585 >> WE DON'T KNOW WHO INITIATED 1060 00:34:08,585 --> 00:34:09,757 THE PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION. 1061 00:34:09,757 --> 00:34:13,447 IT IS JUST AS LIKELY IF NOT 1062 00:34:13,447 --> 00:34:14,172 LIKELIER 1063 00:34:14,172 --> 00:34:17,000 LIKELIER SHE PREEMPTIVELY 1064 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,585 ATTACKED GARETH PURSEHOUSE IN 1065 00:34:17,585 --> 00:34:18,241 ORDER TO SUBDUE HIM BECAUSE SHE 1066 00:34:18,241 --> 00:34:18,965 WAS AFRAID OF HIM. 1067 00:34:18,965 --> 00:34:20,931 >> YOU SEE THAT ALL THE TIME, 1068 00:34:20,931 --> 00:34:22,447 DON'T YOU? 1069 00:34:22,447 --> 00:34:25,551 115 POUND LADY PICKING A FIGHT 1070 00:34:25,551 --> 00:34:29,310 WITH A 230 POUND 6'4" MAN, JUST 1071 00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:30,068 PREPOSTEROUS ON ITS FACE. 1072 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,241 >> DID THAT MAKE YOU MAD? 1073 00:34:31,241 --> 00:34:33,516 >> OH, TOOK ALL MY WILL POWER TO 1074 00:34:33,516 --> 00:34:35,000 STAY IN THAT SEAT, TO KEEP MY 1075 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,344 MOUTH SHUT. 1076 00:34:35,344 --> 00:34:37,655 >> DURING THE STATE'S CLOSING 1077 00:34:37,655 --> 00:34:39,551 ARGUMENTS, IT'S AMIE HARWICK WHO 1078 00:34:39,551 --> 00:34:43,551 HAS THE LAST WORD WITH 1079 00:34:43,551 --> 00:34:46,310 PROSECUTOR MARIANO READING FROM 1080 00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:48,344 AN EMAIL AMIE WROTE TO HERSELF 1081 00:34:48,344 --> 00:34:54,413 HOURS AFTER HER JANUARY 2020 1082 00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:55,000 ENCOUNTER WITH PURSEHOUSE. 1083 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,862 >> TONIGHT I FELT VERY SCARED. 1084 00:34:57,862 --> 00:35:00,827 GARETH CAME UP BEHIND ME AND WAS 1085 00:35:00,827 --> 00:35:01,068 SCREAMING. 1086 00:35:01,068 --> 00:35:02,413 IT TERRIFYIES ME THAT HE'S 1087 00:35:02,413 --> 00:35:04,620 OBSESSED WITH ME FOR NINE YEARS, 1088 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:05,517 THINKS ABOUT ME EVERY DAY. 1089 00:35:05,517 --> 00:35:07,551 HE'S FOCUSED ON HARMING ME. 1090 00:35:07,551 --> 00:35:11,379 >> THAT'S THE CLOSEST WE'VE EVER 1091 00:35:11,379 --> 00:35:21,000 HAD TO A VICTIM TESTIFYING IN 1092 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,172 THEIR MURDER CASE. 1093 00:35:22,172 --> 00:35:25,896 THEY HAD THREE CHOICES, MURDER 1094 00:35:25,896 --> 00:35:26,517 IN THE FIRST DEGREE, MURDER IN 1095 00:35:26,517 --> 00:35:29,000 THE SECOND OR THE LESSER CHARGE 1096 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,620 OF INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. 1097 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:30,827 >> WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR 1098 00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:31,655 DELIBERATION, I THINK WE ALL 1099 00:35:31,655 --> 00:35:33,000 THOUGHT IT WOULD BE VERY QUICK. 1100 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,137 DAY ONE WENT BY, NOTHING. 1101 00:35:34,137 --> 00:35:35,931 >> I STARTED GETTING A LITTLE 1102 00:35:35,931 --> 00:35:37,068 WORRIED AND THINKING WHAT COULD 1103 00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:41,586 THEY BE DEBATING ABOUT? 1104 00:35:41,586 --> 00:35:43,793 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF GARETH 1105 00:35:43,793 --> 00:35:54,793 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF GARETH PURS 1106 00:35:54,793 --> 00:35:58,931 PURS 1107 00:35:58,931 --> 00:36:02,620 >>> I FELT NERVOUS BECAUSE YOU 1108 00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:03,758 NEVER KNOW. 1109 00:36:03,758 --> 00:36:07,379 >> AS JURORS MET FOR A SECOND 1110 00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:09,275 DAY TO DECIDE GARETH 1111 00:36:09,275 --> 00:36:11,000 PURSEHOUSE'S FATE, THE WAITING 1112 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,758 FOR A VERDICT BEGAN TO WEIGH 1113 00:36:12,758 --> 00:36:13,793 HEAVILY ON THE PROSECUTION. 1114 00:36:13,793 --> 00:36:15,379 >> IT'S INCREDIBLY 1115 00:36:15,379 --> 00:36:17,103 NERVE-RACKING, THE WAIT IS THE 1116 00:36:17,103 --> 00:36:17,724 WORST PART. 1117 00:36:17,724 --> 00:36:20,206 >> AND ON AMIE HARWICK'S FRIENDS 1118 00:36:20,206 --> 00:36:20,551 AND FAMILY. 1119 00:36:20,551 --> 00:36:21,689 >> AND ALL YOU HEAR IS JUST LIKE 1120 00:36:21,689 --> 00:36:24,137 A SYMPHONY OF ANXIOUS BELLIES 1121 00:36:24,137 --> 00:36:25,862 JUST GRR. 1122 00:36:25,862 --> 00:36:27,655 SO EVERYBODY'S NERVOUS. 1123 00:36:27,655 --> 00:36:30,482 >> BUT AS COURT WAS ABOUT TO 1124 00:36:30,482 --> 00:36:30,758 ADJOURN. 1125 00:36:30,758 --> 00:36:32,448 >> WE'RE WALKING OUT OF THE 1126 00:36:32,448 --> 00:36:34,000 COURTHOUSE AND RUDY CALLED DOWN 1127 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,758 AND SAID, EVERYBODY, GET UP 1128 00:36:35,758 --> 00:36:35,965 HERE. 1129 00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,103 THERE'S A VERDICT. 1130 00:36:37,103 --> 00:36:38,206 >> IS IT CORRECT THAT THE JURY 1131 00:36:38,206 --> 00:36:39,379 HAS A VERDICT? 1132 00:36:39,379 --> 00:36:40,482 >> YOU CAN HAND THE VERDICT 1133 00:36:40,482 --> 00:36:41,517 FORMS OVER TO THE PLAINTIFF, 1134 00:36:41,517 --> 00:36:41,758 PLEASE. 1135 00:36:41,758 --> 00:36:46,000 >> WE THE JURY IN THE ABOVE 1136 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,827 ENTITLED ACTION FIND THE 1137 00:36:47,827 --> 00:36:48,517 DEFENDANT GARETH PURSEHOUSE 1138 00:36:48,517 --> 00:36:53,275 GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF MURDER IN 1139 00:36:53,275 --> 00:36:53,931 THE FIRST DEGREE. 1140 00:36:53,931 --> 00:36:55,517 >> A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OF 1141 00:36:55,517 --> 00:36:56,586 LYING IN WAIT. 1142 00:36:56,586 --> 00:36:57,896 >> WHAT DID YOU FEEL AT THAT 1143 00:36:57,896 --> 00:36:58,103 MOMENT? 1144 00:36:58,103 --> 00:37:00,620 >> A HUGE RELIEF. 1145 00:37:00,620 --> 00:37:02,517 HUGE RELIEF. 1146 00:37:02,517 --> 00:37:03,344 I JUST STARTED CRYING AND I 1147 00:37:03,344 --> 00:37:08,413 COULDN'T STOP. 1148 00:37:08,413 --> 00:37:10,379 IT WAS LIKE WHUEW, FINALLY AFTER 1149 00:37:10,379 --> 00:37:11,965 ALL THIS TIME, HE'S GOING TO BE 1150 00:37:11,965 --> 00:37:13,000 HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HE 1151 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,206 DID. 1152 00:37:13,206 --> 00:37:16,793 >> TWO MONTHS LATER, PURSEHOUSE 1153 00:37:16,793 --> 00:37:20,000 WAS SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON 1154 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,172 WITHOUT PAROLE. 1155 00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:28,068 HE DIDN'T SAY A WORD. 1156 00:37:28,068 --> 00:37:30,137 AMIE'S FRIEND ROBERT COSHLAND. 1157 00:37:30,137 --> 00:37:32,172 >> JUSTICE WAS RENDERED, AND 1158 00:37:32,172 --> 00:37:34,068 THAT'S GOOD, BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE 1159 00:37:34,068 --> 00:37:35,000 HERE AT ALL. 1160 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,172 THIS SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED 1161 00:37:37,172 --> 00:37:40,206 TO BEGIN WITH, THE HOLE IN OUR 1162 00:37:40,206 --> 00:37:40,586 LIVES REMAINS. 1163 00:37:40,586 --> 00:37:41,655 >> HE'S IMPACTED SO MANY PEOPLE 1164 00:37:41,655 --> 00:37:43,206 WITH HIS ACTIONS, SO MANY 1165 00:37:43,206 --> 00:37:43,517 PEOPLE. 1166 00:37:43,517 --> 00:37:49,034 HE DEVASTATED OUR FAMILY. 1167 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:52,931 >> A FAMILY THAT HAS GROWN AFTER 1168 00:37:52,931 --> 00:37:55,379 THE VERDICT TOM GATHERED AMIE'S 1169 00:37:55,379 --> 00:37:57,000 FRIENDS, THE ONES WHO HAVE STOOD 1170 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,103 BY THEM EVERY STEP OF THIS 1171 00:38:00,103 --> 00:38:00,379 JOURNEY. 1172 00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:01,517 >> I SAID, YOU'RE NOT OUR 1173 00:38:01,517 --> 00:38:04,241 FRIENDS. 1174 00:38:04,241 --> 00:38:06,517 YOU'RE FAMILY. 1175 00:38:06,517 --> 00:38:08,448 YOU HAVE BECOME OUR FAMILY. 1176 00:38:08,448 --> 00:38:09,758 >> COULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH 1177 00:38:09,758 --> 00:38:10,310 THIS WITHOUT THEM? 1178 00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:13,379 >> NO. 1179 00:38:13,379 --> 00:38:15,413 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 1180 00:38:15,413 --> 00:38:17,862 >> IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE 1181 00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:19,896 AMAZING LIFE AND COMMUNITY AMIE 1182 00:38:19,896 --> 00:38:20,724 HARWICK CREATED. 1183 00:38:20,724 --> 00:38:23,862 >> SHE WAS REALLY HAPPY. 1184 00:38:23,862 --> 00:38:25,793 SHE WAS REALLY HAPPY THAT SHE 1185 00:38:25,793 --> 00:38:28,896 HAD REALLY GOTTEN HER LIFE 1186 00:38:28,896 --> 00:38:32,965 TOGETHER, MAN, WE WERE ALL 1187 00:38:32,965 --> 00:38:33,137 HAPPY. 1188 00:38:33,137 --> 00:38:36,827 FL MICHAEL HERMAN SAYS HE STILL 1189 00:38:36,827 --> 00:38:39,206 KEEPS REPLAYING THAT NIGHT. 1190 00:38:39,206 --> 00:38:44,275 >> SHE'S GONE, AND I'M STILL 1191 00:38:44,275 --> 00:38:45,758 HERE. 1192 00:38:45,758 --> 00:38:47,034 I'M STILL TRYING TO SAVE HER. 1193 00:38:47,034 --> 00:38:49,896 >> MICHAEL HERMAN HAS A LOT OF 1194 00:38:49,896 --> 00:38:50,275 SURVIVOR SKILLS. 1195 00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:51,206 >> OH, MY GOODNESS. 1196 00:38:51,206 --> 00:38:52,655 HE DID THE EXACT RIGHT THING. 1197 00:38:52,655 --> 00:38:54,000 >> HE MADE ALL THE RIGHT 1198 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,310 DECISIONS. 1199 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:56,275 >> DO YOU FEEL YOUR SISTER GOT 1200 00:38:56,275 --> 00:38:56,827 JUSTICE? 1201 00:38:56,827 --> 00:38:58,241 >> I FEEL -- I FEEL SHE DID. 1202 00:38:58,241 --> 00:39:00,586 >> AMIE'S BROTHER CHRIS. 1203 00:39:00,586 --> 00:39:02,965 >> WE WISH THAT SHE STILL COULD 1204 00:39:02,965 --> 00:39:05,310 BE HERE TO CONTINUE TO HELP 1205 00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,206 PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SHE 1206 00:39:06,206 --> 00:39:08,103 WAS ALL ABOUT. 1207 00:39:08,103 --> 00:39:15,689 >> WE LOST A FRIEND, BUT SO MANY 1208 00:39:15,689 --> 00:39:16,241 OTHER PEOPLE LOST A HEALER. 1209 00:39:16,241 --> 00:39:17,896 >> I THINK OF AMIE EVERY DAY 1210 00:39:17,896 --> 00:39:20,827 BECAUSE SHE -- SHE HELPED ME SO 1211 00:39:20,827 --> 00:39:21,000 MUCH. 1212 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 >> EMILY SEARS SAYS SHE'S 1213 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,689 STRUGGLING WITHOUT AMIE'S GUY 1214 00:39:24,689 --> 00:39:24,896 DANCE. 1215 00:39:24,896 --> 00:39:27,827 >> IT'S JUST SO HARD TO FEEL 1216 00:39:27,827 --> 00:39:29,931 SAFE WHEN THIS IS THE REALITY OF 1217 00:39:29,931 --> 00:39:30,965 WHAT HAPPENED TO HER AND WHAT 1218 00:39:30,965 --> 00:39:32,965 HAPPENS TO SO MANY PEOPLE. 1219 00:39:32,965 --> 00:39:35,724 >> AMIE'S LOVED ONES ARE HOPING 1220 00:39:35,724 --> 00:39:36,931 TO CHANGE THAT REAL. 1221 00:39:36,931 --> 00:39:38,689 AFTER HER DEATH, A PETITION WAS 1222 00:39:38,689 --> 00:39:43,620 CREATED TO REWRITE CALIFORNIA'S 1223 00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:45,034 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS, 1224 00:39:45,034 --> 00:39:46,034 INCLUDING A STATUTE PREVENTING 1225 00:39:46,034 --> 00:39:47,344 RESTRAINING ORDERS FROM 1226 00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:48,448 EXPIRING. 1227 00:39:48,448 --> 00:39:50,758 >> AND HER BIGGEST 1228 00:39:50,758 --> 00:39:53,275 DISAPPOINTMENT WAS IT LOST ALL 1229 00:39:53,275 --> 00:39:55,517 ITS IMPACT WHEN COVID SHUT 1230 00:39:55,517 --> 00:39:55,931 EVERYTHING DOWN. 1231 00:39:55,931 --> 00:39:57,482 >> PROSECUTOR CATHERINE MARIANO 1232 00:39:57,482 --> 00:39:58,068 ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE ARE 1233 00:39:58,068 --> 00:40:00,103 LIMITS TO THE LEGAL SYSTEM. 1234 00:40:00,103 --> 00:40:01,931 >> BY THE TIME IT GETS TO OUR 1235 00:40:01,931 --> 00:40:03,379 TABLE, WE'RE THIS A POSITION TO 1236 00:40:03,379 --> 00:40:05,827 ACT REACTIVELY RATHER THAN 1237 00:40:05,827 --> 00:40:06,172 PROACTIVELY. 1238 00:40:06,172 --> 00:40:07,551 BUT AS A SOCIETY, I THINK WE CAN 1239 00:40:07,551 --> 00:40:09,689 ALWAYS DO BETTER, RIGHT? 1240 00:40:09,689 --> 00:40:11,137 >> AFTER THE TRIAL, AMIE'S 1241 00:40:11,137 --> 00:40:13,448 PARENTS HEADED HOME TO 1242 00:40:13,448 --> 00:40:15,068 PENNSYLVANIA, THE PLACE WHERE 1243 00:40:15,068 --> 00:40:16,965 THEY FIRST BECAME A FAMILY WITH 1244 00:40:16,965 --> 00:40:18,620 THEIR LITTLE GIRL AND WATCHED 1245 00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:20,413 HER GROW INTO THE WOMAN ADMIRED 1246 00:40:20,413 --> 00:40:22,620 AND NOW MISSED BY SO MANY. 1247 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:26,827 >> WHAT'S THE HARDEST PART? 1248 00:40:26,827 --> 00:40:32,000 >> JUST THE ABSENCE, THE QUIET. 1249 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,620 >> ONE HUGE VOID, ONE HUGE VOID. 1250 00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:38,620 >> AND I MISS OUR ADVENTURES. 1251 00:40:38,620 --> 00:40:41,586 >> ADVENTURES REMEMBERED WHEN 1252 00:40:41,586 --> 00:40:43,827 THEY VISIT AMIE'S GRAVE. 1253 00:40:43,827 --> 00:40:48,103 >> AND I COULDN'T GET A BRIGHTER 1254 00:40:48,103 --> 00:40:48,344 ORANGE. 1255 00:40:48,344 --> 00:40:49,482 I KNOW ORANGE WAS YOUR FAVORITE 1256 00:40:49,482 --> 00:40:51,448 COLOR, BUT THIS IS THE CLOSEST I 1257 00:40:51,448 --> 00:40:51,896 COULD GET. 1258 00:40:51,896 --> 00:40:54,413 >> WE'RE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE WE 1259 00:40:54,413 --> 00:40:55,241 WERE BEFORE. 1260 00:40:55,241 --> 00:40:56,344 BUT WE KEEP TRYING TO BE. 1261 00:40:56,344 --> 00:40:59,448 >> WE MISS YOU, AMIE. 1262 00:40:59,448 --> 00:41:00,758 EVERY DAY. 1263 00:41:00,758 --> 00:41:01,517 WE THINK OF YOU. 1264 00:41:01,517 --> 00:41:02,655 >> ANYTHING YOU WISH YOU HAD 1265 00:41:02,655 --> 00:41:04,034 BEEN ABLE TO SAY TO HER? 1266 00:41:04,034 --> 00:41:05,241 >> JUST TO TELL HER ONE MORE 1267 00:41:05,241 --> 00:41:08,965 TIME THAT I LOVE HER. 1268 00:41:08,965 --> 00:41:11,034 I KNOW SHE KNEW IT, BUT I WANTED 1269 00:41:11,034 --> 00:41:20,931 I KNOW SHE KNEW IT, BUT I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT. 1270 00:41:20,931 --> 00:41:40,241 TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT. 1271 00:41:40,241 --> 00:41:45,758 >>> FOUR WOMEN AT THE BREAKING 1272 00:41:45,758 --> 00:41:46,000 POINT. 1273 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,448 >> WE WERE DESPERATE. 1274 00:41:46,448 --> 00:41:46,931 >> IN FEAR EVERY DAY. 1275 00:41:46,931 --> 00:41:47,517 >> AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER 1276 00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:48,000 COMES TO THE RESCUE. 1277 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,586 DOES HE BECOME THE TARGET? 1278 00:41:48,586 --> 00:41:49,551 >> THIS IS A VERY PERSONAL 1279 00:41:49,551 --> 00:41:49,793 ATTACK. 1280 00:41:49,793 --> 00:41:50,068 >> HE