1 00:00:02,241 --> 00:00:09,655 ♪ 2 00:00:09,655 --> 00:00:10,931 >>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF 3 00:00:10,931 --> 00:00:12,827 YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO 4 00:00:12,827 --> 00:00:14,793 SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE 5 00:00:14,793 --> 00:00:19,241 DISAPPEARANCE OF MADELINE MADDI 6 00:00:19,241 --> 00:00:19,862 KINGSBURY 7 00:00:19,862 --> 00:00:20,103 KINGSBURY. 8 00:00:20,103 --> 00:00:21,137 OUR SEARCH EFFORTS HAVE INCLUDED 9 00:00:21,137 --> 00:00:23,827 PEOPLE ON FOOT, IN VEHICLES AS 10 00:00:23,827 --> 00:00:26,206 WELL AS BY WATER AND AIR. 11 00:00:26,206 --> 00:00:31,000 >> MADELINE IS A HARDWORKING AND 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,517 DEDICATED MOTHER. 13 00:00:31,517 --> 00:00:34,275 FAMILY IS EVERYTHING TO HER. 14 00:00:34,275 --> 00:00:35,551 SHE'S GROWN INTO AN IMPRESSIVE 15 00:00:35,551 --> 00:00:37,931 AND BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN. 16 00:00:37,931 --> 00:00:41,068 PLEASE HELP US FIND MADELINE. 17 00:00:41,068 --> 00:00:46,172 THE CHILDREN NEED THEIR MOTHER. 18 00:00:46,172 --> 00:00:52,241 >> MY SISTER IS KIND AND QUIRKY 19 00:00:52,241 --> 00:00:54,551 AND CARING AND MY BEST FRIEND. 20 00:00:54,551 --> 00:00:58,000 >> MADDI KINGSBURY, A YOUNG 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,344 SORORITY GIRL FROM WINONA STATE 22 00:01:01,344 --> 00:01:03,344 UNIVERSITY MEETS ADAM FRAVEL, A 23 00:01:03,344 --> 00:01:04,620 YOUNG FRATERNITY BOY. 24 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:05,413 THEY HAD TWO CHILDREN. 25 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:06,103 THEY WERE NOT MARRIED. 26 00:01:06,103 --> 00:01:08,862 >> MADDI WAS LAST SEEN THE 27 00:01:08,862 --> 00:01:10,275 MORNING OF FRIDAY, MARCH 31st. 28 00:01:10,275 --> 00:01:13,310 >> MADDI AND ADAM TOOK THE KIDS 29 00:01:13,310 --> 00:01:14,517 TO DAY CARE AND DROPPED THEM OFF 30 00:01:14,517 --> 00:01:16,000 AROUND 8:00 A.M. 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,517 THEY GOT BACK TO THE HOUSE AND 32 00:01:17,517 --> 00:01:20,206 ADAM SAID HE SAW MADDI GO 33 00:01:20,206 --> 00:01:20,862 DOWNSTAIRS WHERE HER HOME OFFICE 34 00:01:20,862 --> 00:01:21,344 WAS TO WORK. 35 00:01:21,344 --> 00:01:23,000 HE LEFT AND HE DIDN'T SEE HER 36 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,241 AGAIN. 37 00:01:23,241 --> 00:01:25,517 >> I SENT HER THIS FUNNY PICTURE 38 00:01:25,517 --> 00:01:26,448 AND WE WERE JUST KIND OF 39 00:01:26,448 --> 00:01:28,586 LAUGHING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT 40 00:01:28,586 --> 00:01:30,482 IT, AND THAT WAS AT 8:15 THAT 41 00:01:30,482 --> 00:01:32,413 MORNING, AND THEN I DIDN'T HEAR 42 00:01:32,413 --> 00:01:32,827 ANYTHING ELSE. 43 00:01:32,827 --> 00:01:34,655 >> MADDI'S FAMILY AND FRIENDS 44 00:01:34,655 --> 00:01:35,586 TRIED TO CONTACT MADDI 45 00:01:35,586 --> 00:01:38,793 THROUGHOUT THE DAY ON MARCH 31st 46 00:01:38,793 --> 00:01:40,172 WITHOUT SUCCESS. 47 00:01:40,172 --> 00:01:42,551 >> I SENT A MESSAGE TO ADAM. 48 00:01:42,551 --> 00:01:44,758 I SAID, HEY, NONE OF US HAVE 49 00:01:44,758 --> 00:01:47,931 HEARD FROM MADELINE ALL DAY. 50 00:01:47,931 --> 00:01:49,378 HE SAID I'M CONCERNED TOO 51 00:01:49,378 --> 00:01:51,241 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM 52 00:01:51,241 --> 00:01:53,275 HER, AND SO I'M AT MY PARENTS', 53 00:01:53,275 --> 00:01:54,965 YOU KNOW, WITH THE KIDS. 54 00:01:54,965 --> 00:01:58,033 SO I CONTACTED A FRIEND OF 55 00:01:58,033 --> 00:01:58,310 MADDI'S. 56 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:59,482 HER NAME'S KATIE. 57 00:01:59,482 --> 00:02:00,965 I SAID I NEED YOU TO GO TO HER 58 00:02:00,965 --> 00:02:03,413 HOUSE AND SEE IF SHE'S THERE. 59 00:02:03,413 --> 00:02:04,724 >> NOBODY WAS HOME SO I CALLED 60 00:02:04,724 --> 00:02:06,379 THE POLICE. 61 00:02:06,379 --> 00:02:09,931 I STARTED SOBBING AT THAT POINT. 62 00:02:09,931 --> 00:02:12,103 THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS NO SIGN 63 00:02:12,103 --> 00:02:14,517 OF HER, THERE WAS NO SIGN OF A A 64 00:02:14,517 --> 00:02:14,793 STRUGGLE. 65 00:02:14,793 --> 00:02:16,172 >> WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE 66 00:02:16,172 --> 00:02:16,862 WILL FIND HER. 67 00:02:16,862 --> 00:02:20,758 NO STONE IS BEING LEFT UNTURNED. 68 00:02:20,758 --> 00:02:22,827 >> WHO IS ESPNSPENCER SULLIVAN? 69 00:02:22,827 --> 00:02:24,379 >> SPENCER SULLIVAN IS A MAN 70 00:02:24,379 --> 00:02:25,517 THAT MADELINE HAD STARTED 71 00:02:25,517 --> 00:02:25,827 SEEING. 72 00:02:25,827 --> 00:02:30,206 >> IT WAS AN ON AND OFF TYPE 73 00:02:30,206 --> 00:02:30,827 SITUATION BECAUSE THERE WERE 74 00:02:30,827 --> 00:02:33,241 SOME TIMES WHERE SHE WOULD TELL 75 00:02:33,241 --> 00:02:33,896 ME I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING 76 00:02:33,896 --> 00:02:35,655 TO WORK OUT BECAUSE OF ADAM. 77 00:02:35,655 --> 00:02:40,551 >> WE BELIEVE MADDI'S DISPEENS 78 00:02:40,551 --> 00:02:42,862 DISAPPEARANCE IS INVOLUNTARY, 79 00:02:42,862 --> 00:02:43,448 SUSPICIOUS, AND WE ARE USING 80 00:02:43,448 --> 00:02:44,586 EVERY TOOL AT OUR DISPOSAL TO 81 00:02:44,586 --> 00:02:44,930 FIND HER. 82 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:47,689 >> SO I TOOK TO SOCIAL MEDIA, 83 00:02:47,689 --> 00:02:48,241 TIKTOK MAINLY. 84 00:02:48,241 --> 00:02:51,172 >> HEY, TIKTOK, I'M POSTING AN 85 00:02:51,172 --> 00:02:51,655 UPDATE. 86 00:02:51,655 --> 00:02:53,758 I AM OUT IN FILLMORE COUNTY. 87 00:02:53,758 --> 00:02:55,137 WE STILL HAVEN'T FOUND MY 88 00:02:55,137 --> 00:02:55,896 SISTER. 89 00:02:55,896 --> 00:02:57,000 >> I MEAN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS 90 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,172 OF PEOPLE SAW HER TIKTOKS. 91 00:02:59,172 --> 00:03:03,241 >> ALMOST 1,900 PEOPLE SIGNED UP 92 00:03:03,241 --> 00:03:04,413 TODAY TO COME LOOK FOR MY 93 00:03:04,413 --> 00:03:04,758 SISTER. 94 00:03:04,758 --> 00:03:07,724 >> AND SHE WAS PLEADING WITH THE 95 00:03:07,724 --> 00:03:08,344 PUBLIC TO HELP AND PLEADING WITH 96 00:03:08,344 --> 00:03:09,241 EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK 97 00:03:09,241 --> 00:03:11,827 WHEREVER AND ANYWHERE FOR HER 98 00:03:11,827 --> 00:03:12,034 SISTER. 99 00:03:12,034 --> 00:03:14,206 PEOPLE JUST DON'T VANISH. 100 00:03:14,206 --> 00:03:16,275 >> MY SISTER IS STILL MISSING. 101 00:03:16,275 --> 00:03:19,068 POLICE AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT 102 00:03:19,068 --> 00:03:22,310 ARE OBVIOUSLY STILL SEARCHING. 103 00:03:22,310 --> 00:03:24,793 EVERYONE'S FRUSTRATED AND WE 104 00:03:24,793 --> 00:03:28,206 JUST CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE SHE 105 00:03:28,206 --> 00:03:28,586 IS. 106 00:03:28,586 --> 00:03:33,310 >> MADDI'S STILL MISSING. 107 00:03:33,310 --> 00:03:35,482 I THINK IT'S DAY 68. 108 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:37,310 >> I WOULD TALK TO HER WHEN I 109 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:40,862 WAS OUT LOOKING FOR HER. 110 00:03:40,862 --> 00:03:43,067 I WANTED TO BE THE ONE TO FIND 111 00:03:43,067 --> 00:03:43,241 HER. 112 00:03:43,241 --> 00:03:44,862 I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE ELSE IN MY 113 00:03:44,862 --> 00:03:45,517 FAMILY TO FIND HER. 114 00:03:45,517 --> 00:03:48,965 IF IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF US, 115 00:03:48,965 --> 00:03:50,137 PLEASE LET IT BE ME. 116 00:03:50,137 --> 00:03:51,793 >> THIS HAS GONE ON TOO LONG. 117 00:03:51,793 --> 00:04:00,517 WE WANT TO BRING HER HOME. 118 00:04:00,517 --> 00:04:13,965 ♪ 119 00:04:13,965 --> 00:04:30,103 ♪ 120 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:36,896 ♪ 121 00:04:36,896 --> 00:04:39,482 >>> THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT 122 00:04:39,482 --> 00:04:41,931 WINONA THAT KEEPS PULLING YOU 123 00:04:41,931 --> 00:04:42,103 BACK. 124 00:04:42,103 --> 00:04:44,000 >> SCOTT HER MAN IS THE MAYOR OF 125 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,310 WINONA, MINNESOTA, A SMALL CITY 126 00:04:45,310 --> 00:04:46,862 ON THE BANKS OF THE MISSISSIPPI. 127 00:04:46,862 --> 00:04:51,482 >> LIVING HERE IN WINONA IS 128 00:04:51,482 --> 00:04:52,241 REALLY COOL. 129 00:04:52,241 --> 00:04:55,517 >> SO COOL THAT TV AND FILM STAR 130 00:04:55,517 --> 00:04:56,931 WINONA RYDER IS NAMED FOR THE 131 00:04:56,931 --> 00:04:58,931 TOWN, AS SHE TOLD THE WORLD IN 132 00:04:58,931 --> 00:05:01,103 THIS SUPER BOWL AD. 133 00:05:01,103 --> 00:05:05,896 >> THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THIS 134 00:05:05,896 --> 00:05:11,965 PLACE, SOMETHING THAT FEELS SO 135 00:05:11,965 --> 00:05:12,379 ME. 136 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:15,275 >> 26-YEAR-OLD MADELINE 137 00:05:15,275 --> 00:05:16,965 KINGSBURY ALSO FELT THAT CERTAIN 138 00:05:16,965 --> 00:05:20,862 SOMETHING ABOUT WINONA, SO WHEN 139 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:22,275 MAYOR SHERMAN HEARD THAT SHE HAD 140 00:05:22,275 --> 00:05:23,758 GONE MISSING, HE WANTED TO HELP. 141 00:05:23,758 --> 00:05:26,310 >> I FELT THAT MADDI WAS A 142 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:27,655 DAUGHTER OF WINONA. 143 00:05:27,655 --> 00:05:30,862 SHE WAS A BRIGHT YOUNG WOMAN, 144 00:05:30,862 --> 00:05:33,620 WORKING THROUGH SCHOOL, WORKING 145 00:05:33,620 --> 00:05:37,620 A JOB IN ROCHESTER AND RAISING 146 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:41,586 KIDS ALL TAMEAT THE SAME TIME. 147 00:05:41,586 --> 00:05:42,206 THAT'S A LOT, SO I HAD RESPECT 148 00:05:42,206 --> 00:05:42,517 FOR MADDI. 149 00:05:42,517 --> 00:05:44,655 >> AND MAYOR SHERMAN THOUGHT HE 150 00:05:44,655 --> 00:05:46,551 COULD HELP BECAUSE AS AN AVID 151 00:05:46,551 --> 00:05:50,000 BICYCLIST, HE RIDES THE WOODSY 152 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 PATHS AROUND WINONA ALL YEAR 153 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,206 LONG. 154 00:05:52,206 --> 00:05:53,724 >> YOU KNOW THE BACK ROADS OF 155 00:05:53,724 --> 00:05:54,068 THIS AREA? 156 00:05:54,068 --> 00:05:54,586 >> I DO. 157 00:05:54,586 --> 00:05:55,758 >> AND YOU WENT OUT YOURSELF? 158 00:05:55,758 --> 00:05:57,793 >> I DID. 159 00:05:57,793 --> 00:05:58,413 >> BUT AS MAYOR, SHERMAN FELT 160 00:05:58,413 --> 00:06:00,620 HIS FIRST JOB WAS TO SUPPORT 161 00:06:00,620 --> 00:06:03,206 MADDI'S DISTRAUGHT MOTHER KRISTA 162 00:06:03,206 --> 00:06:04,965 NABER WHEN SHE ARRIVED AT THE 163 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:07,896 SEARCH COMMAND CENTER. 164 00:06:07,896 --> 00:06:11,034 >> SHE GAVE ME A HUG THAT I WILL 165 00:06:11,034 --> 00:06:13,068 NEVER FORGET THE REST OF MY 166 00:06:13,068 --> 00:06:13,344 LIFE. 167 00:06:13,344 --> 00:06:18,000 IT WAS A HUG THAT SHOWED FEAR, 168 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,275 CONCERN. 169 00:06:18,275 --> 00:06:19,413 >> AND SO WHAT WERE YOU -- WHAT 170 00:06:19,413 --> 00:06:20,344 MESSAGE WERE YOU SENDING WITH 171 00:06:20,344 --> 00:06:21,034 THAT HUG? 172 00:06:21,034 --> 00:06:24,172 >> I'M HERE FOR YOU. 173 00:06:24,172 --> 00:06:26,068 WE WILL DO OUR DAMNEDEST TO FIND 174 00:06:26,068 --> 00:06:26,275 HER. 175 00:06:26,275 --> 00:06:28,000 >> MADDI'S FAMILY FIRST BEGAN 176 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,482 WORRYING ABOUT MADDI LATE IN THE 177 00:06:29,482 --> 00:06:33,482 AFTERNOON OF FRIDAY, MARCH 31st, 178 00:06:33,482 --> 00:06:33,896 2023. 179 00:06:33,896 --> 00:06:36,517 WHEN KRISTA REALIZED SHE HAD NOT 180 00:06:36,517 --> 00:06:38,758 HEARD FROM HER DAUGHTER FOR 181 00:06:38,758 --> 00:06:39,517 NEARLY THE ENTIRE DAY. 182 00:06:39,517 --> 00:06:41,379 >> SOMETHING IN MY GUT JUST 183 00:06:41,379 --> 00:06:42,344 DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT. 184 00:06:42,344 --> 00:06:47,862 >> MOTHER'S INTUITION? 185 00:06:47,862 --> 00:06:48,275 >> RIGHT. 186 00:06:48,275 --> 00:06:51,275 >> KRISTA CONTACTED MEGAN, 187 00:06:51,275 --> 00:06:52,862 MADDI'S OLDER SISTER, BUT MEGAN 188 00:06:52,862 --> 00:06:54,206 SAID SHE WAS NOT OVERLY 189 00:06:54,206 --> 00:06:54,517 CONCERNED. 190 00:06:54,517 --> 00:06:56,103 >> I SENT HER A COUPLE TEXT 191 00:06:56,103 --> 00:06:58,379 MESSAGES ANYWAY, HEY, MOM HASN'T 192 00:06:58,379 --> 00:06:59,448 HEARD FROM YOU. 193 00:06:59,448 --> 00:07:00,931 CAN YOU CALL HER OR CAN YOU TEXT 194 00:07:00,931 --> 00:07:01,655 HER BACK? 195 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:02,206 SHE IS CONCERNED. 196 00:07:02,206 --> 00:07:04,793 AND SHE DIDN'T REPLY TO THAT. 197 00:07:04,793 --> 00:07:07,241 >> AT THE TIME, MADDI WAS LIVING 198 00:07:07,241 --> 00:07:09,586 WITH ADAM FRAVEL, THE FATHER OF 199 00:07:09,586 --> 00:07:10,103 THEIR CHILDREN. 200 00:07:10,103 --> 00:07:13,172 THE TWO HAD MET IN COLLEGE ADD 201 00:07:13,172 --> 00:07:14,068 WINONA STATE UNIVERSITY. 202 00:07:14,068 --> 00:07:17,758 >> HE WAS OUTGOING AND SEEMED 203 00:07:17,758 --> 00:07:18,448 INTERESTED IN GETTING TO KNOW 204 00:07:18,448 --> 00:07:22,586 US, AND HE SEEMED VERY ALMOST 205 00:07:22,586 --> 00:07:24,344 INFATUATED, I GUESS, WITH 206 00:07:24,344 --> 00:07:24,620 MADELINE. 207 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:26,482 >> WHILE STILL IN COLLEGE, MADDI 208 00:07:26,482 --> 00:07:28,448 AND ADAM LEARNED THEY WERE 209 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:31,172 EXPECTING THEIR FIRST CHILD AND 210 00:07:31,172 --> 00:07:33,034 DECIDED TO SETTLE IN WINONA. 211 00:07:33,034 --> 00:07:33,931 >> HE MANNED UP. 212 00:07:33,931 --> 00:07:35,000 HE MANNED UP. 213 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,793 >> THERESA SIS MEIJA IS ADAM'S 214 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:40,931 SISTER, AND SHE SAYS ADAM QUIT 215 00:07:40,931 --> 00:07:43,655 SCHOOL TO SUPPORT HIS NEW 216 00:07:43,655 --> 00:07:43,896 FAMILY. 217 00:07:43,896 --> 00:07:44,551 >> HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE A 218 00:07:44,551 --> 00:07:44,724 DAD. 219 00:07:44,724 --> 00:07:46,241 HE WENT AND GOT A JOB, AND HE 220 00:07:46,241 --> 00:07:50,310 HAD THAT JOB UP UNTIL COVID, AND 221 00:07:50,310 --> 00:07:51,586 THEN HE GOT LAID OFF. 222 00:07:51,586 --> 00:07:53,310 WHILE HE LET MADDI CONTINE 223 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:55,655 COLLEGE SO THAT SHE COULD 224 00:07:55,655 --> 00:07:56,448 GRADUATE AND SHE DID. 225 00:07:56,448 --> 00:07:58,758 SHE GRADUATED, AND HE SUPPORTED 226 00:07:58,758 --> 00:07:58,965 HER. 227 00:07:58,965 --> 00:08:03,379 >> AFTER GRADUATION MADIGANDI BEGAN 228 00:08:03,379 --> 00:08:05,482 WORKING AT THE MAYO CLINIC AND 229 00:08:05,482 --> 00:08:06,482 BECAME A CLINICAL RESEARCH 230 00:08:06,482 --> 00:08:08,275 COORDINATOR, AND MADDI'S FATHER 231 00:08:08,275 --> 00:08:10,241 DAVID KINGSBURY SAID SHE 232 00:08:10,241 --> 00:08:11,931 RECENTLY HAD BEGUN STUDYING FOR 233 00:08:11,931 --> 00:08:14,827 AN ADVANCED DEGREE. 234 00:08:14,827 --> 00:08:15,620 >> SHE WAS A GRADUATE STUDENT, A 235 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:16,758 MASTER'S PROGRAM AT THE 236 00:08:16,758 --> 00:08:18,655 UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, HAD 237 00:08:18,655 --> 00:08:19,517 JUST COMPLETED HER FIRST 238 00:08:19,517 --> 00:08:21,000 SEMESTER THERE, AND WAS DOING 239 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,620 VERY WELL. 240 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:24,344 >> ADAM, WHO HAD STUDIED 241 00:08:24,344 --> 00:08:25,586 COMPUTER SCIENCE IN COLLEGE 242 00:08:25,586 --> 00:08:27,896 BEGAN TAKING FLYING LESSONS WITH 243 00:08:27,896 --> 00:08:29,379 AN EYE TOWARD GETTING HIS 244 00:08:29,379 --> 00:08:30,172 PILOT'S LICENSE. 245 00:08:30,172 --> 00:08:33,758 >> WHEN HE WAS TAKING PILOT 246 00:08:33,758 --> 00:08:35,172 LESSONS, HE FELT SO 247 00:08:35,172 --> 00:08:35,517 ACCOMPLISHED. 248 00:08:35,517 --> 00:08:39,000 IT MADE HIM FEEL GOOD, AND I WAS 249 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:39,620 SO PROUD OF HIM FOR DOING IT, 250 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:40,448 FOR DOING SOMETHING FOR HIMSELF. 251 00:08:40,448 --> 00:08:43,309 >> I ENJOYED BEING AROUND HIM, 252 00:08:43,309 --> 00:08:48,000 AND I COULD TELL THAT HE REALLY 253 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,413 CARED FOR MADELINE. 254 00:08:48,413 --> 00:08:50,310 >> ON THE EVENING OF MARCH 31st, 255 00:08:50,310 --> 00:08:55,172 MEGAN WAS HOURS AWAY FROM WITHNONA 256 00:08:55,172 --> 00:08:57,137 WHEN SHE REACHED OUT TO ADAM WHO 257 00:08:57,137 --> 00:08:57,965 SAID HE WAS CONCERNED. 258 00:08:57,965 --> 00:09:00,586 >> HE SAID I GOT HOME TODAY, AND 259 00:09:00,586 --> 00:09:01,172 SHE WAS GONE. 260 00:09:01,172 --> 00:09:03,931 >> ADAM AND THE CHILDREN WERE AT 261 00:09:03,931 --> 00:09:07,034 HIS PARENTS' HOME IN MABEL, AN 262 00:09:07,034 --> 00:09:09,000 HOUR SOUTH OF WINONA. 263 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,068 THAT'S WHEN MEGAN MESSAGED 264 00:09:14,068 --> 00:09:15,551 MADDI'S CLOSE FRIEND, KATIE CULL 265 00:09:15,551 --> 00:09:17,448 KULKA WHO LIVED IN BY OWE NA. 266 00:09:17,448 --> 00:09:19,965 MY PARENTS AND I HAVEN'T BEEN 267 00:09:19,965 --> 00:09:21,517 ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH 268 00:09:21,517 --> 00:09:22,586 MADDI ALL DAY. 269 00:09:22,586 --> 00:09:25,172 KATIE RESPONDS, I'M ON MY WAY 270 00:09:25,172 --> 00:09:26,172 OVER THERE RIGHT NOW. 271 00:09:26,172 --> 00:09:28,206 THE HOUSE WAS EERILY SILENT, AND 272 00:09:28,206 --> 00:09:29,586 IT WAS AT THAT POINT KATIE 273 00:09:29,586 --> 00:09:30,965 CALLED THE WINONA POLICE. 274 00:09:30,965 --> 00:09:32,379 >> AND YOU WANT THIS MISSING 275 00:09:32,379 --> 00:09:33,551 PERSON'S REPORT TO BE FILED, BUT 276 00:09:33,551 --> 00:09:34,655 WHAT DO THEY TELL YOU? 277 00:09:34,655 --> 00:09:36,448 >> THEY TOLD ME THAT I WASN'T 278 00:09:36,448 --> 00:09:39,413 ABLE TO REPORT IT BECAUSE IT 279 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:42,068 HADN'T BEEN 24 HOURS YET. 280 00:09:42,068 --> 00:09:44,620 >> I WAS PACING IN MY KITCHEN. 281 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:46,620 I WAS GETTING REALLY, REALLY 282 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:46,896 WORRIED. 283 00:09:46,896 --> 00:09:48,724 >> SO WAS MADDI'S FATHER, WHO 284 00:09:48,724 --> 00:09:50,620 TRIED TO REACH HER. 285 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:51,344 >> WHERE ARE YOU? 286 00:09:51,344 --> 00:09:52,551 WHAT'S GOING ON? 287 00:09:52,551 --> 00:09:54,000 >> THE NEXT MORNING WITH MADDI 288 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,793 NOW MISSING NEARLY 24 HOURS, THE 289 00:09:56,793 --> 00:09:58,931 KINGSBURY FAMILY FILED A MISSING 290 00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:01,034 PERSON'S REPORT, AND THEN ADAM 291 00:10:01,034 --> 00:10:04,034 WENT TO FACEBOOK ASKING FOR 292 00:10:04,034 --> 00:10:04,413 HELP. 293 00:10:04,413 --> 00:10:07,241 HIS POST READ IN PART, IF 294 00:10:07,241 --> 00:10:09,068 ANYBODY HAS SEEN MADDI, PLEASE 295 00:10:09,068 --> 00:10:11,517 CONTACT THE WINONA PD, ME, OR 296 00:10:11,517 --> 00:10:12,931 ANY OF HER FAMILY MEMBERS. 297 00:10:12,931 --> 00:10:15,275 PLEASE HELP ME FIND THE MOM TO 298 00:10:15,275 --> 00:10:16,965 OUR TWO BEAUTIFUL KIDS. 299 00:10:16,965 --> 00:10:19,413 >> THE POLICE WENT TO GREAT 300 00:10:19,413 --> 00:10:20,862 LENGTHS I HAVE TO SAY TO TRY TO 301 00:10:20,862 --> 00:10:22,689 FIND MADDI QUICKLY. 302 00:10:22,689 --> 00:10:23,896 BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A 303 00:10:23,896 --> 00:10:25,344 TICKING CLOCK ON THESE THINGS. 304 00:10:25,344 --> 00:10:27,137 >> AND THE INVESTIGATION TOOK 305 00:10:27,137 --> 00:10:27,310 OFF. 306 00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:28,965 >> I MEAN, IT'S EXTRAORDINARY 307 00:10:28,965 --> 00:10:41,172 WHAT THEY DID. 308 00:10:41,172 --> 00:10:42,793 >>> THE NEWS THAT MADDI WAS 309 00:10:42,793 --> 00:10:46,586 MISSING SPREAD QUICKLY THROUGH 310 00:10:46,586 --> 00:10:52,206 WINONA AND BEYOND. 311 00:10:52,206 --> 00:10:52,931 HAILEY SKOD 312 00:10:52,931 --> 00:10:54,793 HAILEY SCOTT, ONE OF MADDI'S 313 00:10:54,793 --> 00:10:56,310 SORORITY SISTERS WANTED TO HELP. 314 00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:59,724 >> I REACHED OUT TO OUR 315 00:10:59,724 --> 00:11:00,034 SORORITY. 316 00:11:00,034 --> 00:11:02,448 I REACHED OUT TO NEWS OUTLETS. 317 00:11:02,448 --> 00:11:03,758 I WAS GRASPING AT STRAWS. 318 00:11:03,758 --> 00:11:05,068 >> AT THE SAME TIME, DETECTIVES 319 00:11:05,068 --> 00:11:07,344 REACHED OUT TO ADAM FRAVEL. 320 00:11:07,344 --> 00:11:09,241 ACCORDING TO POLICE REPORTS, 321 00:11:09,241 --> 00:11:10,655 ADAM TOLD THEM HOW ON THE 322 00:11:10,655 --> 00:11:13,068 MORNING OF MARCH 31st THE COUPLE 323 00:11:13,068 --> 00:11:16,068 DROPPED OFF THEIR CHILDREN AT 324 00:11:16,068 --> 00:11:19,586 THE DAY CARE CENTER. 325 00:11:19,586 --> 00:11:21,103 INVESTIGATORS CONFIRMED THE 326 00:11:21,103 --> 00:11:23,655 DROPOFF AFTER SPEAKING TO THE 327 00:11:23,655 --> 00:11:25,793 DAY CARE PROVIDER WHO GAVE 328 00:11:25,793 --> 00:11:27,862 POLICE THIS VIDEOTAPE. 329 00:11:27,862 --> 00:11:29,931 >> SORRY WE'RE LATE. 330 00:11:29,931 --> 00:11:30,620 >> THIS VIDEO HAS NEVER BEEN 331 00:11:30,620 --> 00:11:32,034 SEEN BY THE PUBLIC UNTIL NOW. 332 00:11:32,034 --> 00:11:34,034 IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST TIMES 333 00:11:34,034 --> 00:11:36,000 MADDI IS SEEN ON VIDEO BEFORE 334 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,103 SHE VANISHED. 335 00:11:39,103 --> 00:11:41,448 POLICE SAY ADAM TOLD THEM HE AND 336 00:11:41,448 --> 00:11:43,965 MADDI RETURNED HOME AFTER THE 337 00:11:43,965 --> 00:11:45,620 DROPOFF AND SHE WENT TO HER 338 00:11:45,620 --> 00:11:47,206 OFFICE IN THE BASEMENT TO DO A 339 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:49,034 LITTLE WORK BEFORE HEADING TO 340 00:11:49,034 --> 00:11:50,724 THE MAYO CLINIC. 341 00:11:50,724 --> 00:11:52,448 >> I HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT ALL 342 00:11:52,448 --> 00:11:54,793 THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE THUS 343 00:11:54,793 --> 00:11:58,137 FAR IN THE MADDI KINGSBURY CASE. 344 00:11:58,137 --> 00:12:00,482 >> MARY FULGINITI, A FORMER 345 00:12:00,482 --> 00:12:03,000 PROSECUTOR AND DEFENSE ATTORNEY, 346 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,137 IS A "48 HOURS" CONSULTANT. 347 00:12:06,137 --> 00:12:09,137 SHE SAYS THAT IN HIS POLICE 348 00:12:09,137 --> 00:12:10,137 INTERVIEW, ADAM TOLD DETECTIVES 349 00:12:10,137 --> 00:12:13,482 HE LEFT MADDI HIS CAR AND 350 00:12:13,482 --> 00:12:14,103 BORROWED HER BLUE MINIVAN TO 351 00:12:14,103 --> 00:12:16,965 HAUL SOME BOXES. 352 00:12:16,965 --> 00:12:18,827 >> HE PROCEEDED TO PUT SOME 353 00:12:18,827 --> 00:12:19,965 BOXES IN THE VAN THAT HE WAS 354 00:12:19,965 --> 00:12:22,068 GOING TO MOVE TO HIS PARENTS' 355 00:12:22,068 --> 00:12:22,551 HOUSE. 356 00:12:22,551 --> 00:12:24,310 SAID HE DIDN'T SEE MADDI AGAIN. 357 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:28,344 HE DROVE TO HIS PARENTS' HOUSE 358 00:12:28,344 --> 00:12:29,379 ALONG HIGHWAY 43. 359 00:12:29,379 --> 00:12:32,551 >> POLICE SAY ADAM TOLD THEM HE 360 00:12:32,551 --> 00:12:33,931 GOT AS FAR AS THE TOWNSHIP OF 361 00:12:33,931 --> 00:12:35,689 CHOICE, MINNESOTA, WHEN HE 362 00:12:35,689 --> 00:12:38,206 REALIZED HE HAD MADE A MISTAKE. 363 00:12:38,206 --> 00:12:39,965 >> THE BOXES THAT HE HAD IN THE 364 00:12:39,965 --> 00:12:41,137 VAN WERE ONES THAT HE ACTUALLY 365 00:12:41,137 --> 00:12:42,896 WANTED TO PUT IN STORAGE SO HE 366 00:12:42,896 --> 00:12:44,689 TURNED AROUND AND HE WENT BACK 367 00:12:44,689 --> 00:12:45,241 TO THE HOME. 368 00:12:45,241 --> 00:12:47,482 >> POLICE SAY ADAM TOLD 369 00:12:47,482 --> 00:12:48,689 INVESTIGATORS HE ARRIVED BACK AT 370 00:12:48,689 --> 00:12:51,965 HIS WINONA HOME AROUND 11:30 371 00:12:51,965 --> 00:12:55,068 A.M. AND SAW HIS CAR STILL IN 372 00:12:55,068 --> 00:12:56,103 THE DRIVEWAY. 373 00:12:56,103 --> 00:12:57,793 >> HE SAID HE HAD TEXTED HER A 374 00:12:57,793 --> 00:12:59,758 FEW TIMES ASKING ABOUT DINNER 375 00:12:59,758 --> 00:13:00,689 AND WHETHER OR NOT SHE WAS GOING 376 00:13:00,689 --> 00:13:01,827 TO PICK UP THE KIDS. 377 00:13:01,827 --> 00:13:05,137 THERE WAS NO RESPONSE. 378 00:13:05,137 --> 00:13:08,620 >> POLICE SAY ADAM TOLD THEM 379 00:13:08,620 --> 00:13:10,310 HE'D ASSUMED MADDI HAD CAR 380 00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:11,965 POOLED TO WORK AND WHEN HE DID 381 00:13:11,965 --> 00:13:13,931 NOT HEAR FROM HER, HE WENT ALONE 382 00:13:13,931 --> 00:13:16,344 TO DO THAT PICKUP OF THE KIDS. 383 00:13:16,344 --> 00:13:18,344 AGAIN, THE VIDEO FROM THE DAY 384 00:13:18,344 --> 00:13:20,620 CARE APPEARS TO CORROBORATE THAT 385 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:22,034 PART OF ADAM'S STORY. 386 00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:25,310 >> SO HE ULTIMATELY PICKED UP 387 00:13:25,310 --> 00:13:27,965 THE CHILDREN AROUND 4:20 OR 4:30 388 00:13:27,965 --> 00:13:30,275 FROM DAY CARE AND BROUGHT THEM 389 00:13:30,275 --> 00:13:33,000 TO HIS PARENTS' HOUSE IN MABEL, 390 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,241 MINNESOTA. 391 00:13:33,241 --> 00:13:34,758 >> DURING THE POLICE INTERVIEW, 392 00:13:34,758 --> 00:13:36,689 INVESTIGATORS NOTED THAT ADAM 393 00:13:36,689 --> 00:13:40,793 HAD FRESH SCRATCHES ON HIS FACE 394 00:13:40,793 --> 00:13:43,000 THE DAY AFTER MADDI DISAPPEARED. 395 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,724 ADAM'S SISTER SAYS HE TOLD HER 396 00:13:44,724 --> 00:13:46,448 THE SCRATCHES CAME FROM A 397 00:13:46,448 --> 00:13:47,551 FRIEND'S DOG. 398 00:13:47,551 --> 00:13:51,586 ON SATURDAY, APRIL 1st, POLICE 399 00:13:51,586 --> 00:13:53,758 SEARCHED THE WINONA HOUSE WHERE 400 00:13:53,758 --> 00:13:57,000 ADAM LIVED WITH MADDI, AND 401 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 INVESTIGATORS REPORTED THEY SAW 402 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,241 NO OVERT SIGNS OF FOUL PLAY. 403 00:14:01,241 --> 00:14:02,758 >> BUT WHAT WAS IN THE HOUSE WAS 404 00:14:02,758 --> 00:14:05,517 HER PURSE, HER JACKET, HER 405 00:14:05,517 --> 00:14:09,034 CREDIT CARDS, BUT NO MADDI. 406 00:14:09,034 --> 00:14:11,000 >> TWO DAYS LATER AN ANXIOUS 407 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,275 MEGAN RUSHED OUT OF HER SHOWER 408 00:14:12,275 --> 00:14:14,896 AND ALERTED HER TIKTOK FOLLOWERS 409 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,068 TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. 410 00:14:16,068 --> 00:14:18,448 >> TIKTOK, I NEED YOU TO DO YOUR 411 00:14:18,448 --> 00:14:18,827 THING. 412 00:14:18,827 --> 00:14:20,517 >> I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THE 413 00:14:20,517 --> 00:14:22,103 FACT THAT I WAS IN A TOWEL. 414 00:14:22,103 --> 00:14:25,758 >> I NEED YOUR HELP, THIS IS MY 415 00:14:25,758 --> 00:14:29,413 SISTER, MADELINE KINGSBURY, 416 00:14:29,413 --> 00:14:32,586 SHE'S MISSING. 417 00:14:32,586 --> 00:14:36,586 >> THE POST EVENTUALLY HAD OVER 418 00:14:36,586 --> 00:14:37,965 A HALF MILLION VIEWS. 419 00:14:37,965 --> 00:14:39,448 >> HELP US FIND HER. 420 00:14:39,448 --> 00:14:41,379 SHE'S GOT TWO KIDS. 421 00:14:41,379 --> 00:14:43,034 SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND. 422 00:14:43,034 --> 00:14:44,000 SHE'S MY LITTLE SISTER. 423 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,206 WE NEED TO GET HER BACK. 424 00:14:45,206 --> 00:14:48,655 PLEASE HELP US. 425 00:14:48,655 --> 00:14:50,827 >> YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY IN TERROR 426 00:14:50,827 --> 00:14:51,000 HERE. 427 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,275 >> YEAH. 428 00:14:51,275 --> 00:14:53,448 >> THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE, BUT 429 00:14:53,448 --> 00:14:55,551 YOU'RE REACHING OUT FOR HELP AND 430 00:14:55,551 --> 00:14:56,034 PEOPLE WANTED TO HELP. 431 00:14:56,034 --> 00:14:56,310 >> YES. 432 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:57,551 >> SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED TO 433 00:14:57,551 --> 00:14:59,793 HELP LOOK FOR MADELINE KINGSBURY 434 00:14:59,793 --> 00:15:01,275 THAT IT ALLOWED LAW ENFORCEMENT 435 00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:02,793 TO EXPAND THEIR SEARCH. 436 00:15:02,793 --> 00:15:04,689 >> THERE'S NO GUIDEBOOK ON HOW 437 00:15:04,689 --> 00:15:07,137 TO SEARCH FOR A MISSING LOVED 438 00:15:07,137 --> 00:15:09,965 ONE AND SEARCHING FOR HER WAS 439 00:15:09,965 --> 00:15:11,827 EASILY ONE OF THE MOST TRAUMATIC 440 00:15:11,827 --> 00:15:15,551 THINGS I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED IN 441 00:15:15,551 --> 00:15:17,689 MY LIFE. 442 00:15:17,689 --> 00:15:22,793 >> WE'RE ALL HOPEFUL SHE'S 443 00:15:22,793 --> 00:15:23,068 ALIVE. 444 00:15:23,068 --> 00:15:25,000 >> BUT BY THE END OF THE 445 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,482 WEEKEND, THERE WAS NO SIGN OF 446 00:15:30,482 --> 00:15:33,620 MADDI. 447 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:35,310 DAY BY DAY MEGAN CONTINUED TO 448 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:37,655 POST UPDATES TO TIKTOK. 449 00:15:37,655 --> 00:15:42,517 >> IT'S TUESDAY THE 25th, STILL 450 00:15:42,517 --> 00:15:43,793 NO MADELINE. 451 00:15:43,793 --> 00:15:46,448 NOW NEXT WEEK IS MAY. 452 00:15:46,448 --> 00:15:51,000 WE'RE STILL IN THIS HELL. 453 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,551 I FEEL LIKE ALL OF US LIKE EVERY 454 00:15:52,551 --> 00:15:54,586 NIGHT WE WOULD LOOK OUT, IT'S 455 00:15:54,586 --> 00:15:56,896 COLD, IT'S DARK. 456 00:15:56,896 --> 00:15:59,931 IS SHE LIKE LAIGYING OUT THERE 457 00:15:59,931 --> 00:16:00,310 SOMEWHERE? 458 00:16:00,310 --> 00:16:02,655 IS SHE TRAPPED SOMEWHERE AND YOU 459 00:16:02,655 --> 00:16:03,862 DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 460 00:16:03,862 --> 00:16:07,379 >> BEHIND THE SCENES, THOUGH, 461 00:16:07,379 --> 00:16:08,931 INVESTIGATORS BEGAN TAKING A 462 00:16:08,931 --> 00:16:11,310 HARDER LOOK AT ADAM, ESPECIALLY 463 00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,379 AFTER MADDI'S FRIENDS CAME 464 00:16:14,379 --> 00:16:16,965 FORWARD WITH SOME DISTURBING 465 00:16:16,965 --> 00:16:17,448 STORIES 466 00:16:17,448 --> 00:16:17,689 STORIES. 467 00:16:17,689 --> 00:16:20,448 >> MADELINE CALLED ME SHORTLY 468 00:16:20,448 --> 00:16:21,413 AFTER AN INCIDENT HAPPENED 469 00:16:21,413 --> 00:16:25,379 BETWEEN HER AND ADAM WHERE HE 470 00:16:25,379 --> 00:16:27,827 HAD TOLD HER THAT IF SHE WASN'T 471 00:16:27,827 --> 00:16:29,896 CAREFUL, SHE WAS GOING TO END UP 472 00:16:29,896 --> 00:16:32,068 JUST LIKE GABBY PETITO. 473 00:16:32,068 --> 00:16:34,827 >> THE GABBY PETITO CASE FIXATED 474 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:37,172 THE NATION IN THE FALL OF 2021. 475 00:16:37,172 --> 00:16:39,655 >> THE SEARCH FOR MISSING 476 00:16:39,655 --> 00:16:41,103 22-YEAR-OLD GABBY PETITO IS NOW 477 00:16:41,103 --> 00:16:42,413 A MULTISTATE EFFORT. 478 00:16:42,413 --> 00:16:45,793 >> AFTER THE YOUNG WOMAN FROM 479 00:16:45,793 --> 00:16:46,689 LONG ISLAND WAS FOUND DEAD -- 480 00:16:46,689 --> 00:16:49,620 >> HUMAN REMAINS WERE 481 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:49,931 DISCOVERED. 482 00:16:49,931 --> 00:16:51,413 >> -- ONE MONTH AFTER SHE 483 00:16:51,413 --> 00:16:55,000 SEEMINGLY VANISHED FROM THE FACE 484 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,551 OF THE EARTH. 485 00:16:55,551 --> 00:16:57,793 >> I TOLD HER YOU NEED TO GET 486 00:16:57,793 --> 00:17:00,241 OUT, AND YOU NEED TO GET OUT 487 00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:00,517 NOW. 488 00:17:00,517 --> 00:17:06,034 THAT'S NOT AN EMPTY THREAT. 489 00:17:06,034 --> 00:17:07,758 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MEGAN'S 490 00:17:07,758 --> 00:17:15,068 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MEGAN'S TIKTOK POSTS? 491 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:17,964 TIKTOK POSTS? 492 00:17:17,964 --> 00:17:28,448 ♪ 493 00:17:28,448 --> 00:17:30,413 >>> YEARS BEFORE MADDI VANISHED, 494 00:17:30,413 --> 00:17:32,000 HER SISTER MEGAN SAYS THE ON AND 495 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,103 OFF AGAIN RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 496 00:17:33,103 --> 00:17:35,172 MADDI AND ADAM SEEMED TO BE 497 00:17:35,172 --> 00:17:37,241 HEADED FOR A BAD ENDING. 498 00:17:37,241 --> 00:17:40,344 >> HE JUST WASN'T NICE TO HER. 499 00:17:40,344 --> 00:17:43,172 HE DIDN'T ACT LIKE HE LOVED HER. 500 00:17:43,172 --> 00:17:44,620 HE DIDN'T HELP TAKE CARE OF THE 501 00:17:44,620 --> 00:17:45,000 KIDS. 502 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,896 HE DIDN'T CLEAN. 503 00:17:45,896 --> 00:17:49,379 >> AND HONESTLY, DID YOU REACH A 504 00:17:49,379 --> 00:17:51,068 POINT WHERE YOU ADVISED YOUR 505 00:17:51,068 --> 00:17:52,034 SISTER, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IT'S 506 00:17:52,034 --> 00:17:55,482 TIME TO MOVE ON IN YOUR LIFE 507 00:17:55,482 --> 00:17:55,758 FROM HIM? 508 00:17:55,758 --> 00:17:59,000 >> MANY TIMES. 509 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,724 >> MADDI'S FATHER DAVID SAID IT 510 00:18:01,724 --> 00:18:05,137 PAINED HIM TO SEE HOW SHABBILY 511 00:18:05,137 --> 00:18:06,068 ADAM TREATED MADDI. 512 00:18:06,068 --> 00:18:08,724 >> I THINK SHE LITERALLY POURED 513 00:18:08,724 --> 00:18:11,620 OUT A RIVER OF LOVE FOR HIM, AND 514 00:18:11,620 --> 00:18:14,034 SHE GOT NARY A DROP IN RETURN. 515 00:18:14,034 --> 00:18:17,482 >> MADDI'S STEPMOTHER CATHY SAYS 516 00:18:17,482 --> 00:18:19,275 MADDI OFTEN CALLED SAYING ADAM 517 00:18:19,275 --> 00:18:21,241 WAS OF NO HELP WITH THE 518 00:18:21,241 --> 00:18:21,517 CHILDREN. 519 00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:26,310 >> AND SHE'D BE JUST SOBBING 520 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:27,000 MISERABLY THAT ADAM'S NOT 521 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,310 HELPING. 522 00:18:27,310 --> 00:18:28,000 I HATE THIS. 523 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,620 >> BUT MADDI'S FAMILY AND 524 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:31,068 FRIENDS SAY THERE WAS MORE THAN 525 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:33,310 JUST TEARFUL ARGUMENTS. 526 00:18:33,310 --> 00:18:34,896 ABOUT THREE YEARS BEFORE MADDI 527 00:18:34,896 --> 00:18:37,275 WENT MISSING, HAILEY SAYS SHE 528 00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:39,620 WITNESSED ADAM SLAP MADDI DURING 529 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:41,793 A VIDEO CALL. 530 00:18:41,793 --> 00:18:43,724 HAILEY AND MADDI WERE TALKING, 531 00:18:43,724 --> 00:18:46,172 HAILEY SAYS, WHEN ADAM APPEARED 532 00:18:46,172 --> 00:18:47,655 IN THE BACKGROUND AND BEGAN 533 00:18:47,655 --> 00:18:49,379 SHOUTING AT MADDI. 534 00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:51,310 >> HE YELLED. 535 00:18:51,310 --> 00:18:51,896 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS 536 00:18:51,896 --> 00:18:55,103 HOUSE IS SUCH A [ BLEEP ] MESS, 537 00:18:55,103 --> 00:18:56,517 AND SHE SAID, I DON'T KNOW. 538 00:18:56,517 --> 00:19:00,551 MAYBE YOU SHOULD HELP ME. 539 00:19:00,551 --> 00:19:03,448 TO WHICH ADAM TURNED AND HE 540 00:19:03,448 --> 00:19:06,620 SLAPPED HER WITH AN OPEN HAND 541 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:10,379 ACROSS THE FACE. 542 00:19:10,379 --> 00:19:12,827 >> AND IN SEPTEMBER 2021, SOME 543 00:19:12,827 --> 00:19:14,724 18 MONTHS BEFORE MADDI 544 00:19:14,724 --> 00:19:16,068 DISAPPEARED, SHE TOLD HAILEY 545 00:19:16,068 --> 00:19:17,896 ABOUT ADAM'S DARK FASCINATION 546 00:19:17,896 --> 00:19:20,448 WITH THE GABBY PETITO STORY. 547 00:19:20,448 --> 00:19:27,068 >> ADAM HAD A INFATUATION, AND I 548 00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:28,965 WOULD CALL IT AN OBSESSION WITH 549 00:19:28,965 --> 00:19:30,275 THE GABBY PETITO CASE. 550 00:19:30,275 --> 00:19:32,344 >> HAILEY SAYS MADDI HAD TOLD 551 00:19:32,344 --> 00:19:34,413 HER THAT ONE NIGHT AFTER SHE AND 552 00:19:34,413 --> 00:19:36,275 ADAM WATCHED A NEWS SPECIAL 553 00:19:36,275 --> 00:19:39,862 ABOUT THE PETITO MURDER, ADAM'S 554 00:19:39,862 --> 00:19:42,241 OBSESSION TURNED THREATENING. 555 00:19:42,241 --> 00:19:43,896 >> HE HAD ACTUALLY TURNED AND 556 00:19:43,896 --> 00:19:46,551 GRABBED HER BY THE THROAT AND 557 00:19:46,551 --> 00:19:47,965 PINNED HER DOWN AND TOLD HER 558 00:19:47,965 --> 00:19:50,034 THAT IF SHE WASN'T CAREFUL THAT 559 00:19:50,034 --> 00:19:53,586 SHE WOULD END UP JUST LIKE HER. 560 00:19:53,586 --> 00:19:55,620 >> KATIE SAYS SHE TRIED TO GET 561 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:57,310 MADDI TO DO SOMETHING. 562 00:19:57,310 --> 00:20:00,379 >> AND I BEGGED HER AND BEGGED 563 00:20:00,379 --> 00:20:02,551 HER PLEASE GO TO THE HOSPITAL. 564 00:20:02,551 --> 00:20:03,275 DOCUMENT IT YOURSELF. 565 00:20:03,275 --> 00:20:04,448 DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO. 566 00:20:04,448 --> 00:20:05,517 YOU NEED TO GET THIS DOCUMENTED 567 00:20:05,517 --> 00:20:06,655 SO YOU CAN GET OUT OF THERE 568 00:20:06,655 --> 00:20:08,827 SAFELY WITH THOSE KIDS. 569 00:20:08,827 --> 00:20:11,931 >> BUT KATIE SAYS MADDI NEVER 570 00:20:11,931 --> 00:20:14,034 REPORTED ANYTHING TO THE POLICE. 571 00:20:14,034 --> 00:20:15,862 >> SHE WAS MORE SCARED THAT ADAM 572 00:20:15,862 --> 00:20:17,241 WAS GOING TO GET ARRESTED. 573 00:20:17,241 --> 00:20:18,586 >> SHE WANTED TO PROTECT HIM? 574 00:20:18,586 --> 00:20:20,172 >> SHE WAS PROTECTING HIM. 575 00:20:20,172 --> 00:20:22,965 >> MADDI DID, HOWEVER, TELL HER 576 00:20:22,965 --> 00:20:24,103 FATHER DAVID AND STEPMOTHER 577 00:20:24,103 --> 00:20:25,689 CATHY ABOUT THE CHOKING 578 00:20:25,689 --> 00:20:26,965 INCIDENT. 579 00:20:26,965 --> 00:20:31,206 >> SHE WAS LIKE HORRIBLY AFRAID. 580 00:20:31,206 --> 00:20:32,931 SHE'S BEEN CHOKED, AND SHE WAS 581 00:20:32,931 --> 00:20:34,758 VERY, VERY SCARED AND WANTED 582 00:20:34,758 --> 00:20:34,965 HELP. 583 00:20:34,965 --> 00:20:36,689 >> CATHY SAYS SHE AND DAVID 584 00:20:36,689 --> 00:20:38,896 DROVE TO MADDI'S HOUSE AND GOT 585 00:20:38,896 --> 00:20:41,344 HER AND THE CHILDREN OUT OF 586 00:20:41,344 --> 00:20:41,551 THERE. 587 00:20:41,551 --> 00:20:42,620 >> SHE CAME WITH US. 588 00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:44,000 WE WENT TO THE HOUSE SO SHE 589 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,586 COULD GET SOME OF HER THINGS AND 590 00:20:45,586 --> 00:20:48,896 SOME CLOTHING FOR THE KIDS AND 591 00:20:48,896 --> 00:20:50,103 WHATNOT, AND PUT THE KIDS IN THE 592 00:20:50,103 --> 00:20:51,965 VAN AND FOLLOWED US BACK TO OUR 593 00:20:51,965 --> 00:20:53,689 HOME IN FARMINGTON. 594 00:20:53,689 --> 00:20:55,482 >> BUT CATHY SAYS MADDI STAYED 595 00:20:55,482 --> 00:20:58,172 IN THE KINGSBURY HOUSE ONLY 596 00:20:58,172 --> 00:21:00,413 THREE DAYS BEFORE RETURNING TO 597 00:21:00,413 --> 00:21:03,793 ADAM BECAUSE HE WAS UPSET THAT 598 00:21:03,793 --> 00:21:04,586 SHE'D LEFT. 599 00:21:04,586 --> 00:21:07,482 >> I DID TELL HER AT SOME POINT 600 00:21:07,482 --> 00:21:08,000 HE'S GOING TO KILL YOU. 601 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,620 >> YOU SAID THAT TO MADDI? 602 00:21:09,620 --> 00:21:10,448 >> YEAH. 603 00:21:10,448 --> 00:21:11,137 >> YOU FELT THERE WAS ENOUGH 604 00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:12,000 DANGER THAT YOU HAD TO SAY TO 605 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,448 YOUR OWN DAUGHTER, I THINK HE 606 00:21:13,448 --> 00:21:14,724 MAY KILL YOU? 607 00:21:14,724 --> 00:21:17,344 AND HOW DID SHE RESPOND TO THAT 608 00:21:17,344 --> 00:21:19,034 STATEMENT, OR DID SHE? 609 00:21:19,034 --> 00:21:21,310 >> HONESTLY, I MEAN, SHE BECAME 610 00:21:21,310 --> 00:21:22,931 A PRO AT MINIMIZING THINGS, AND 611 00:21:22,931 --> 00:21:24,965 IT CAME BACK TO, WELL, HE WAS 612 00:21:24,965 --> 00:21:25,172 JOKING. 613 00:21:25,172 --> 00:21:27,620 HE TOLD ME HE WAS JOKING, AND 614 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:28,448 SHE WANTED TO BELIEVE THAT. 615 00:21:28,448 --> 00:21:30,482 >> WHEN MADDI WENT MISSING, HER 616 00:21:30,482 --> 00:21:31,655 FRIENDS AND FAMILY REPORTED 617 00:21:31,655 --> 00:21:34,758 THOSE INCIDENTS TO POLICE. 618 00:21:34,758 --> 00:21:36,137 ACCORDING TO A SEARCH WARRANT, 619 00:21:36,137 --> 00:21:37,827 DETECTIVES INTERVIEWED ADAM AND 620 00:21:37,827 --> 00:21:40,517 ASKED IF HE AND MADDI HAD EVER 621 00:21:40,517 --> 00:21:43,068 HAD ANY PHYSICAL ALTERCATIONS. 622 00:21:43,068 --> 00:21:44,965 HE SAID, OH, NO. 623 00:21:44,965 --> 00:21:46,172 WHEN DETECTIVES ASKED ABOUT 624 00:21:46,172 --> 00:21:48,758 THOSE GABBY PETITO COMMENTS, 625 00:21:48,758 --> 00:21:51,000 POLICE SAY ADAM ADMITTED THEM 626 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,034 BUT CLAIMED HE WAS TRYING TO 627 00:21:53,034 --> 00:21:54,586 MAKE A JOKE. 628 00:21:54,586 --> 00:21:56,034 BUT ACCORDING TO A SEARCH 629 00:21:56,034 --> 00:21:57,931 WARRANT, INVESTIGATORS FOUND AN 630 00:21:57,931 --> 00:22:00,275 OLD SCREEN SHOT MADDI HAD SAVED 631 00:22:00,275 --> 00:22:02,517 OF SOME TEXTS SHE'D EXCHANGED 632 00:22:02,517 --> 00:22:04,689 WITH ADAM. 633 00:22:04,689 --> 00:22:07,517 MADDI SAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT 634 00:22:07,517 --> 00:22:09,517 REALLY OKAY WITH OR OVER THE 635 00:22:09,517 --> 00:22:10,310 FACT THAT YOU PUT YOUR HAND 636 00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:15,620 AROUND MY NECK AND PUSH MED DOWNED ME 637 00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:17,379 DOWN IN FRONT OF THE KIDS 638 00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:19,551 EARLIER, SO DON'T, NOT OKAY WITH 639 00:22:19,551 --> 00:22:20,275 IT AT ALL BUT ESPECIALLY WITH 640 00:22:20,275 --> 00:22:21,137 THEM THERE. 641 00:22:21,137 --> 00:22:27,793 ADAM REPLIES, YOU'LL ADJUST. 642 00:22:27,793 --> 00:22:30,068 MADDI SAYS THE F I WILL. 643 00:22:30,068 --> 00:22:31,965 >> DETECTIVES WANTED TO KNOW 644 00:22:31,965 --> 00:22:33,827 EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT ADAM DID 645 00:22:33,827 --> 00:22:36,241 THE DAY MADDI WENT MISSING, AND 646 00:22:36,241 --> 00:22:38,620 BEGAN COLLECTING SURVEILLANCE 647 00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:40,000 VIDEOS FROM HOMES AND 648 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,448 BUSINESSES. 649 00:22:40,448 --> 00:22:42,310 POLICE SAY A BLUE MINIVAN THAT 650 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:44,827 LOOKED LIKE MADDI'S WAS 651 00:22:44,827 --> 00:22:47,000 VIDEOTAPED ON HIGHWAY 43, THE 652 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,517 ROAD ADAM TOLD POLICE HE'D TAKEN 653 00:22:49,517 --> 00:22:51,689 THAT MORNING, BUT ACCORDING TO A 654 00:22:51,689 --> 00:22:54,172 SEARCH WARRANT, THE TIME STAMPS 655 00:22:54,172 --> 00:22:55,793 DO NOT MATCH ADAM'S TIME LINE. 656 00:22:55,793 --> 00:22:59,241 THE CAMERAS TRACKED THE BLUE 657 00:22:59,241 --> 00:23:00,379 MINIVAN UNTIL AROUND NOON, 658 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,137 POLICE SAY. 659 00:23:01,137 --> 00:23:04,241 >> AND THEN THERE'S A 45-MINUTE 660 00:23:04,241 --> 00:23:04,448 GAP. 661 00:23:04,448 --> 00:23:05,793 >> THAT GAP OCCURS AROUND 662 00:23:05,793 --> 00:23:06,413 CHOICE, MINNESOTA. 663 00:23:06,413 --> 00:23:08,344 POLICE SAY THAT IS WHERE ADAM 664 00:23:08,344 --> 00:23:10,137 TOLD THEM HE REALIZED HE TOOK 665 00:23:10,137 --> 00:23:12,896 THE WRONG BOXES, TURNED THE VAN 666 00:23:12,896 --> 00:23:14,172 AROUND, AND DROVE STRAIGHT BACK 667 00:23:14,172 --> 00:23:16,655 TO WINONA. 668 00:23:16,655 --> 00:23:18,034 ACCORDING TO THAT WARRANT, THERE 669 00:23:18,034 --> 00:23:21,517 IS A 45-MINUTE WINDOW THAT 670 00:23:21,517 --> 00:23:22,896 FRAVEL COULD NOT BE TRACKED. 671 00:23:22,896 --> 00:23:25,034 > I MEAN, WHERE WAS HE DURING 672 00:23:25,034 --> 00:23:26,275 THOSE 45 MINUTES? 673 00:23:26,275 --> 00:23:27,620 I MEAN, THAT WAS THE BIG -- YOU 674 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:30,000 KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION, RIGHT? 675 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,103 >> BUT WITH NO DIRECT EVIDENCE 676 00:23:31,103 --> 00:23:33,310 AND NO SIGN OF MADDI, 677 00:23:33,310 --> 00:23:34,551 INVESTIGATORS DID NOT ARREST 678 00:23:34,551 --> 00:23:36,068 ADAM, AND HE CONTINUED TO LIVE 679 00:23:36,068 --> 00:23:39,413 AT HIS PARENTS' HOME WITH THE 680 00:23:39,413 --> 00:23:40,000 CHILDREN. 681 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,655 MEANWHILE, MEGAN CONTINUED HER 682 00:23:41,655 --> 00:23:43,689 UPDATES ON TIKTOK. 683 00:23:43,689 --> 00:23:48,034 >> MADELINE STILL HAS NOT BEEN 684 00:23:48,034 --> 00:23:49,517 LOCATED, UNFORTUNATELY. 685 00:23:49,517 --> 00:23:50,689 SO WE'RE STILL PLUGGING ALONG 686 00:23:50,689 --> 00:23:54,448 AND LOOKING FOR HER. 687 00:23:54,448 --> 00:23:56,206 >> AS DETECTIVES CONTINUED TO 688 00:23:56,206 --> 00:23:57,965 INVESTIGATE, THEY UNCOVERED A 689 00:23:57,965 --> 00:24:01,344 NEW LEAD, A ROMANTIC 690 00:24:01,344 --> 00:24:02,379 RELATIONSHIP MADDI HAD BEEN 691 00:24:02,379 --> 00:24:04,793 HAVING WITH ANOTHER MAN, AN ARMY 692 00:24:04,793 --> 00:24:06,482 VETERAN NAMED SPENCER SULLIVAN. 693 00:24:06,482 --> 00:24:08,586 >> I'M SPENCER SULLIVAN, AND I 694 00:24:08,586 --> 00:24:10,517 WAS DATING MADELINE KINGSBURY AT 695 00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:12,448 THE TIME OF HER DISAPPEARANCE. 696 00:24:12,448 --> 00:24:14,620 >> AND NOW POLICE WERE 697 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,827 INTERESTED TO KNOW SPENCER'S 698 00:24:16,827 --> 00:24:22,379 WHEREABOUTS THE DAY MADDI WENT 699 00:24:22,379 --> 00:24:24,413 WHEREABOUTS THE DAY MADDI WENT MISSING. 700 00:24:24,413 --> 00:24:28,724 MISSING. 701 00:24:28,724 --> 00:24:30,758 >>> WHAT DO YOU MAEKKE OF THE 702 00:24:30,758 --> 00:24:32,862 GABBY PETITO COMMENT FROM ADAM 703 00:24:32,862 --> 00:24:41,793 WHICH HE CLAIMED TO POLICE WAS 704 00:24:41,793 --> 00:24:47,379 ♪ 705 00:24:47,379 --> 00:24:50,137 >>> IN THE SPRING OF 2023, MADDI 706 00:24:50,137 --> 00:24:52,000 KNEW HER RELATIONSHIP WITH ADAM 707 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,103 WAS FALLING APART, AND SHE WAS 708 00:24:55,103 --> 00:24:57,000 BRUTALLY HONEST WITH HER FATHER. 709 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,517 >> SHE SAYS, YOU KNOW, DAD, I 710 00:24:58,517 --> 00:25:02,275 KNOW THAT I'M IN A BAD 711 00:25:02,275 --> 00:25:02,620 RELATIONSHIP. 712 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:03,206 I KNOW MY FAMILY KNOWS IT, I 713 00:25:03,206 --> 00:25:04,034 KNOW MY FRIENDS KNOW IT, AND I'M 714 00:25:04,034 --> 00:25:06,137 EMBARRASSED ABOUT IT, BUT I 715 00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:07,862 DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. 716 00:25:07,862 --> 00:25:11,344 >> BUT MADDI HAD JOINED TINDER, 717 00:25:11,344 --> 00:25:14,000 WHICH IS WHERE SHE RECONNECTED 718 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,586 WITH SPENCER, WHO SHE KNEW FROM 719 00:25:16,586 --> 00:25:16,827 COLLEGE. 720 00:25:16,827 --> 00:25:17,655 >> WE WERE FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK, 721 00:25:17,655 --> 00:25:20,310 SO I KNEW THAT SHE HAD KIDS. 722 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,793 I WASN'T SURE WHAT THE STATUS OF 723 00:25:21,793 --> 00:25:24,310 THE RELATIONSHIP WAS EXACTLY 724 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:25,620 WITH ADAM FRAVEL. 725 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:28,275 >> AS IT TURNS OUT, SPENCER ALSO 726 00:25:28,275 --> 00:25:32,551 KNEW ADAM FROM BYWINONA STATE. 727 00:25:32,551 --> 00:25:35,758 >> HE WAS IN THE SAME FRATERNITY 728 00:25:35,758 --> 00:25:36,000 AS I WAS. 729 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,793 >> TELL ME ABOUT THE ADAM YOU 730 00:25:36,793 --> 00:25:38,000 KNEW BACK THEN. 731 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,448 >> HE AND I DIDN'T REALLY TALK 732 00:25:39,448 --> 00:25:40,172 ALL THAT MUCH. 733 00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:42,275 >> MADDI TOLD SPENCER THAT SHE 734 00:25:42,275 --> 00:25:45,275 AND ADAM HAD REACHED THE POINT 735 00:25:45,275 --> 00:25:46,241 OF NO RETURN. 736 00:25:46,241 --> 00:25:49,689 MADDI AND SPENCER BEGAN DATING 737 00:25:49,689 --> 00:25:50,379 BUT QUIETLY. 738 00:25:50,379 --> 00:25:52,103 >> WE BOTH KIND OF AGREED TO 739 00:25:52,103 --> 00:25:54,931 KEEP IT A SECRET BETWEEN US 740 00:25:54,931 --> 00:25:56,517 UNTIL SHE WAS ON HER OWN. 741 00:25:56,517 --> 00:25:58,517 >> MOSTLY THE RELATIONSHIP WAS A 742 00:25:58,517 --> 00:26:01,586 SECRET FROM ADAM. 743 00:26:01,586 --> 00:26:02,413 MADDI'S FAMILY AND GIRLFRIENDS 744 00:26:02,413 --> 00:26:04,344 KNEW ABOUT IT, AND THEY TOLD 745 00:26:04,344 --> 00:26:06,344 POLICE ABOUT SPENCER WHEN MADDI 746 00:26:06,344 --> 00:26:07,344 WENT MISSING. 747 00:26:07,344 --> 00:26:09,586 THAT'S WHEN INVESTIGATORS CALLED 748 00:26:09,586 --> 00:26:11,758 SPENCER IN FOR AN INTERVIEW. 749 00:26:11,758 --> 00:26:13,103 >> THEY WERE JUST KIND OF ASKING 750 00:26:13,103 --> 00:26:14,586 ME GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN 751 00:26:14,586 --> 00:26:17,517 WE HAD STARTED DATING, WHERE 752 00:26:17,517 --> 00:26:18,000 WERE YOU AT THIS POINT? 753 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,689 WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT THIS 754 00:26:18,689 --> 00:26:18,931 POINT. 755 00:26:18,931 --> 00:26:21,103 >> WHAT WERE YOU DOING ON MARCH 756 00:26:21,103 --> 00:26:22,344 31st, 2023? 757 00:26:22,344 --> 00:26:26,689 >> THAT MORNING I WAS AT WORK. 758 00:26:26,689 --> 00:26:29,758 >> SPENCER SURRENDERED HIS PHONE 759 00:26:29,758 --> 00:26:30,413 WHILE INVESTIGATORS CHECKED OUT 760 00:26:30,413 --> 00:26:31,275 HIS ALIBI. 761 00:26:31,275 --> 00:26:32,896 AS THEY LOOKED INTO HIS STORY, 762 00:26:32,896 --> 00:26:34,793 THEY ALSO LEARNED FROM MADDI'S 763 00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:37,482 FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT ONLY SIX 764 00:26:37,482 --> 00:26:40,275 DAYS BEFORE SHE DISAPPEARED, SHE 765 00:26:40,275 --> 00:26:43,068 FINALLY HAD TOLD ADAM ABOUT 766 00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:43,344 SPENCER. 767 00:26:43,344 --> 00:26:44,551 >> SHE DIDN'T WANT TO LIE, AND 768 00:26:44,551 --> 00:26:48,344 SHE JUST -- IT BUBBLED UP INSIDE 769 00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:49,275 OF HER THIS GUILT. 770 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:51,724 >> IS IT TRUE THAT MADDI TOLD 771 00:26:51,724 --> 00:26:54,000 ADAM ABOUT SPENCER? 772 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,517 >> YEAH. 773 00:26:54,517 --> 00:26:56,103 >> THAT'S A PRETTY GUTSY THING 774 00:26:56,103 --> 00:26:56,448 TO DO. 775 00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:59,137 >> WE WISH SHE HAD NOT. 776 00:26:59,137 --> 00:27:01,551 >> IT ALL CAME POURING OUT, AND 777 00:27:01,551 --> 00:27:04,137 MEGAN SAYS MADDI TOLD ADAM SHE 778 00:27:04,137 --> 00:27:06,206 WAS LEAVING HIM AND LOOKING FOR 779 00:27:06,206 --> 00:27:07,448 AN APARTMENT WHERE SHE WOULD 780 00:27:07,448 --> 00:27:09,724 LIVE WITH THEIR CHILDREN. 781 00:27:09,724 --> 00:27:11,689 >> DID SHE TELL YOU HOW ADAM 782 00:27:11,689 --> 00:27:12,896 REACTED TO THE NEWS? 783 00:27:12,896 --> 00:27:16,689 >> I THINK SHE SAID HE CRIED, 784 00:27:16,689 --> 00:27:19,620 AND HE WAS REALLY HURT AT THE 785 00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:21,793 TIME. 786 00:27:21,793 --> 00:27:22,379 >> I'M SURE HE WAS PERSONALLY 787 00:27:22,379 --> 00:27:23,896 HURT AND HEARTBROKEN. 788 00:27:23,896 --> 00:27:25,206 ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU FIND OUT SHE 789 00:27:25,206 --> 00:27:26,206 HAS FEELINGS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE 790 00:27:26,206 --> 00:27:26,793 AND IT'S OVER. 791 00:27:26,793 --> 00:27:28,655 >> ADAM'S SISTER THERESA AS WELL 792 00:27:28,655 --> 00:27:32,034 AS HIS BROTHER RYAN SAY NEWS OF 793 00:27:32,034 --> 00:27:33,137 THE BREAKUP HURT THEM AS WELL 794 00:27:33,137 --> 00:27:35,172 BECAUSE MADDI WAS A CHERISHED 795 00:27:35,172 --> 00:27:36,758 MEMBER OF THEIR EXTENDED FAMILY. 796 00:27:36,758 --> 00:27:39,482 >> MADDI WAS A SISTER TO ALL OF 797 00:27:39,482 --> 00:27:42,482 US, AND OUR HEARTS ARE BROKEN. 798 00:27:42,482 --> 00:27:43,586 WE LOST A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER. 799 00:27:43,586 --> 00:27:45,413 >> THEY POINT OUT THAT ALTHOUGH 800 00:27:45,413 --> 00:27:47,896 ADAM AND MADDI ALWAYS HAD AN ON 801 00:27:47,896 --> 00:27:49,689 AND OFF RELATIONSHIP, THEY 802 00:27:49,689 --> 00:27:51,551 STAYED TOGETHER FOR SEVEN YEARS. 803 00:27:51,551 --> 00:27:53,103 >> I WAS COMPLETELY SHOCKED WHEN 804 00:27:53,103 --> 00:27:55,724 I LEARNED THAT SHE WAS DATING 805 00:27:55,724 --> 00:27:58,206 SPENCER BEHIND MY BROTHER'S 806 00:27:58,206 --> 00:27:58,413 BACK. 807 00:27:58,413 --> 00:28:00,758 >> MADDI'S BEST FRIEND KATIE 808 00:28:00,758 --> 00:28:03,068 SAYS TENSIONS BETWEEN MADDI AND 809 00:28:03,068 --> 00:28:05,551 ADAM WERE SKY HIGH AFTER HER 810 00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:07,172 REVELATION ABOUT SPENCER. 811 00:28:07,172 --> 00:28:11,517 IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE SHE 812 00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:12,000 DISAPPEARED. 813 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,206 >> SHE CALLED ME CRYING, AND SHE 814 00:28:13,206 --> 00:28:16,000 ASKED IF SHE COULD COME WORK AT 815 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,586 OUR HOUSE. 816 00:28:16,586 --> 00:28:18,689 SHE SAID THAT ADAM WAS HOVERING 817 00:28:18,689 --> 00:28:19,896 OVER HER WHILE SHE WAS WORKING 818 00:28:19,896 --> 00:28:22,551 AND MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT SOME 819 00:28:22,551 --> 00:28:26,758 OTHER MAN RAISING HIS KIDS AND, 820 00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:27,965 YOU KNOW, ARE YOU REALLY 821 00:28:27,965 --> 00:28:29,172 REQUESTING TO LEAVEGOING 822 00:28:29,172 --> 00:28:31,275 TO LEAVE ME FOR ANOTHER MAN. 823 00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:32,310 SHE FELT VERY THREATENED. 824 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:34,137 >> MADDI LEFT HER HOUSE AND WENT 825 00:28:34,137 --> 00:28:37,758 TO KATIE'S, BEFORE ENDING UP AT 826 00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:39,379 SPENCER'S HOME ALSO IN WINONA. 827 00:28:39,379 --> 00:28:41,586 >> SHE CAME OVER TO CELEBRATE MY 828 00:28:41,586 --> 00:28:42,689 BIRTHDAY WITH ME. 829 00:28:42,689 --> 00:28:44,482 SHE BROUGHT A COUPLE OF 830 00:28:44,482 --> 00:28:45,379 DOUGHNUTS THAT WE COULD SPLIT 831 00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:46,034 WITH EACH OTHER. 832 00:28:46,034 --> 00:28:47,724 SHE HAD A GIFT FOR ME, IT WAS A 833 00:28:47,724 --> 00:28:50,793 LITTLE LEGO SET, A LITTLE STAR 834 00:28:50,793 --> 00:28:52,931 WARS LEGO SET. 835 00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:53,793 I GOT A CARD FROM HER, A STAR 836 00:28:53,793 --> 00:28:55,931 WARS CARD. 837 00:28:55,931 --> 00:28:56,551 >> THAT LAST TIME YOU SAW HER 838 00:28:56,551 --> 00:28:57,000 PERSON TO PERSON. 839 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,241 >> SHE WAS STANDING ON MY FRONT 840 00:28:58,241 --> 00:28:58,448 STEPS. 841 00:28:58,448 --> 00:29:00,000 SHE TURNED AROUND AND SMILED AT 842 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,620 ME AND WAVED AND THAT WAS THE 843 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:07,379 LAST TIME I SAW HER. 844 00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:10,103 >> WITHIN DAYS OF HIS INTERVIEW, 845 00:29:10,103 --> 00:29:12,793 POLICE CONFIRMED SPENCER'S ALIBI 846 00:29:12,793 --> 00:29:15,896 AND RETURNED HIS PHONE. 847 00:29:15,896 --> 00:29:17,655 EVENTUALLY POLICE SAY HE WAS 848 00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:18,206 CLEARED. 849 00:29:18,206 --> 00:29:19,724 MADDI'S FRIEND HAILEY SAYS 850 00:29:19,724 --> 00:29:21,758 SPENCER WAS THE BEST THING TO 851 00:29:21,758 --> 00:29:24,620 HAPPEN TO HER IN A LONG TIME. 852 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:26,655 >> SPENCER SHOWED HER THAT SHE 853 00:29:26,655 --> 00:29:29,793 DESERVED SO MUCH MORE THAN ADAM. 854 00:29:29,793 --> 00:29:32,000 >> SPENCER SAYS HE WAS 855 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,068 DEVASTATED IN THE WAKE OF 856 00:29:34,068 --> 00:29:35,000 MADDI'S DISAPPEARANCE. 857 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,689 >> I THOUGHT TO MYSELF LIKE 858 00:29:36,689 --> 00:29:40,655 STUFF LIKE THIS DOESN'T -- 859 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,034 DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE. 860 00:29:42,034 --> 00:29:43,586 YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 861 00:29:43,586 --> 00:29:45,000 HER MOVING IN TO HER NEW PLACE. 862 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,413 SHE WANTED ME TO COME OVER AND 863 00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:51,034 HELP HER DECORATE, DO STUFF, AND 864 00:29:51,034 --> 00:29:53,241 THEN THE NEXT DAY SHE'S GONE. 865 00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:54,827 >> HE SAYS HE COULDN'T STOP 866 00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:56,965 THINKING ABOUT THE BIRTHDAY CARD 867 00:29:56,965 --> 00:29:59,068 MADDI HAD GIVEN HIM. 868 00:29:59,068 --> 00:30:03,793 >> I THINK I RE-READ THAT CARD 869 00:30:03,793 --> 00:30:11,310 AT LEAST 100 TIMES. 870 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:17,551 ALL I COULD THINK WAS THIS -- 871 00:30:17,551 --> 00:30:18,172 THIS KAINE 872 00:30:18,172 --> 00:30:21,241 THIS CAN'T -- I'M SORRY. 873 00:30:21,241 --> 00:30:23,172 >> FOUR DAYS AFTER MADDI 874 00:30:23,172 --> 00:30:24,379 VANISHED, HER PARENTS WERE GIVEN 875 00:30:24,379 --> 00:30:26,103 TEMPORARY CUSTODY OF HER 876 00:30:26,103 --> 00:30:26,379 CHILDREN. 877 00:30:26,379 --> 00:30:28,034 >> MY NIECE AND NEPHEW ARE NOW 878 00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:30,827 LONGER IN THE CUSTODY OF THEIR 879 00:30:30,827 --> 00:30:31,034 FATHER. 880 00:30:31,034 --> 00:30:32,103 YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE THE 881 00:30:32,103 --> 00:30:35,586 CONCERN FOR THEM, BUT THEY'RE IN 882 00:30:35,586 --> 00:30:36,068 GOOD HANDS. 883 00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:41,034 >> WHEN MADDI'S FRIEND LAUREN 884 00:30:41,034 --> 00:30:41,655 DEBOIS THOUGHT ABOUT MADDI'S 885 00:30:41,655 --> 00:30:42,172 CHILDREN SHE RECALLED A 886 00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:43,275 CONVERSATION SHE'D HAD WITH 887 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,068 MADDI A MONTH EARLIER, AND SHE 888 00:30:45,068 --> 00:30:46,862 REPORTED IT TO POLICE. 889 00:30:46,862 --> 00:30:49,793 >> SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE NEEDED 890 00:30:49,793 --> 00:30:52,344 ME TO KNOW THAT IF ANYTHING WERE 891 00:30:52,344 --> 00:30:53,172 TO HAPPEN TO HER OR HER CHILDREN 892 00:30:53,172 --> 00:30:54,758 THAT ADAM DID IT. 893 00:30:54,758 --> 00:30:57,137 SHE WOULD NEVER LEAVE HER 894 00:30:57,137 --> 00:31:02,793 CHILDREN FOR ANYTHING UNDER ANY 895 00:31:02,793 --> 00:31:03,103 CIRCUMSTANCES. 896 00:31:03,103 --> 00:31:04,655 >> TEN DAYS AFTER MADDI 897 00:31:04,655 --> 00:31:07,137 DISAPPEARED, POLICE HAD RECEIVED 898 00:31:07,137 --> 00:31:08,000 A TIP THAT ADAM HAD BEEN SEEN 899 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,896 RIDING NEAR HIS PARENTS' HOME 900 00:31:09,896 --> 00:31:12,551 WITH A SHOVEL IN HIS FAMILY'S 901 00:31:12,551 --> 00:31:13,344 UTILITY VEHICLE. 902 00:31:13,344 --> 00:31:16,793 POLICE SEIZED HIS VEHICLE AND 903 00:31:16,793 --> 00:31:18,000 ACCORDING TO A SEARCH WARRANT, 904 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,758 CADAVER DOGS ALERTED TO A SCENT 905 00:31:20,758 --> 00:31:22,827 IN THE VEHICLE AND ON THE 906 00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:23,137 SHOVEL. 907 00:31:23,137 --> 00:31:24,551 >> YOU KNOW, IT'S MY 908 00:31:24,551 --> 00:31:27,413 UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE 909 00:31:27,413 --> 00:31:28,034 TRAINED AND SPECIFICALLY TRAINED 910 00:31:28,034 --> 00:31:29,965 TO FIND HUMAN REMAINS. 911 00:31:29,965 --> 00:31:32,310 >> TWO DAYS LATER, ADAM PUT OUT 912 00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:33,724 A STATEMENT THROUGH HIS 913 00:31:33,724 --> 00:31:34,000 ATTORNEYS. 914 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,241 IT READ IN PART, I HAVE 915 00:31:37,241 --> 00:31:39,000 COOPERATED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT 916 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,448 AT EVERY TURN. 917 00:31:39,448 --> 00:31:41,931 I DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO 918 00:31:41,931 --> 00:31:43,448 WITH MADDI'S DISAPPEARANCE. 919 00:31:43,448 --> 00:31:46,724 I WANT THE MOTHER OF MY 920 00:31:46,724 --> 00:31:47,620 5-YEAR-OLD AND 2-YEAR-OLD TO BE 921 00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:50,896 FOUND AND BROUGHT HOME SAFELY. 922 00:31:50,896 --> 00:31:56,620 I WANT THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING. 923 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:58,689 MADDI HAD BEEN MISSING 35 DAYS 924 00:31:58,689 --> 00:32:01,068 WHEN KATIE AND OTHERS GATHERED 925 00:32:01,068 --> 00:32:01,655 TO REMEMBER HER. 926 00:32:01,655 --> 00:32:03,896 >> SHE WAS THE KINDEST, MOST 927 00:32:03,896 --> 00:32:04,620 BEAUTIFUL SOUL. 928 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,724 EVEN ON THE BRIGHTEST DAYS, IT 929 00:32:06,724 --> 00:32:08,137 STILL FEELS DARK AND GLOOMY 930 00:32:08,137 --> 00:32:09,517 WITHOUT HER HERE. 931 00:32:09,517 --> 00:32:12,241 >> DAVID KINGSBURY ADDRESSED THE 932 00:32:12,241 --> 00:32:14,482 CROWD INSIDE A LOCAL CHURCH. 933 00:32:14,482 --> 00:32:18,103 >> WE KNOW THAT MADELINE IS 934 00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:19,586 AROUND HERE SOMEWHERE. 935 00:32:19,586 --> 00:32:25,517 SHE JUST DIDN'T VANISH. 936 00:32:25,517 --> 00:32:27,931 SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING. 937 00:32:27,931 --> 00:32:30,206 SOMEONE SAW SOMETHING. 938 00:32:30,206 --> 00:32:32,758 MAKE THIS YOUR BATTLE CRY. 939 00:32:32,758 --> 00:32:35,206 WHERE'S MADELINE? 940 00:32:35,206 --> 00:32:36,206 WHERE IS SHE? 941 00:32:36,206 --> 00:32:37,827 MAE IT LOUD, AND DON'T STOP 942 00:32:37,827 --> 00:32:45,172 UNTIL SHE'S FOUND. 943 00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:54,310 UNTIL SHE'S FOUND. >> GO BEHIND 944 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:56,551 >> GO BEHIND 945 00:32:56,551 --> 00:33:00,586 ♪ 946 00:33:00,586 --> 00:33:03,896 >>> FOR MEGAN KINGSBURY, JUNE 947 00:33:03,896 --> 00:33:07,896 7th, 2023, STARTED OUT LIKE 948 00:33:07,896 --> 00:33:10,000 EVERY OTHER DAY SINCE MADDI 949 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,310 DISAPPEARED. 950 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:14,551 >> HEY, TIKTOK, GOOD MORNING. 951 00:33:14,551 --> 00:33:16,068 HAPPY WEDNESDAY. 952 00:33:16,068 --> 00:33:17,344 MADDI'S STILL MISSING. 953 00:33:17,344 --> 00:33:18,275 PLEASE CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE 954 00:33:18,275 --> 00:33:20,620 WORD ABOUT MY SISTER MADELINE. 955 00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:23,310 >> BUT HOURS LATER. 956 00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:24,689 >> -- WE BEGIN THE HOUR WITH 957 00:33:24,689 --> 00:33:25,758 BREAKING NEWS OUT OF 958 00:33:25,758 --> 00:33:28,586 SOUTHEASTERN MINNESOTA. 959 00:33:28,586 --> 00:33:29,655 >> 68 DAYS AFTER MADDI 960 00:33:29,655 --> 00:33:30,965 DISAPPEARED, A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY 961 00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:33,724 FOUND HUMAN REMAINS ALONG THIS 962 00:33:33,724 --> 00:33:36,793 LONELY COUNTRY ROAD. 963 00:33:36,793 --> 00:33:37,379 >> AND WHILE IT HADN'T BEEN 964 00:33:37,379 --> 00:33:39,482 CERTIFIED BY THE MEDICAL 965 00:33:39,482 --> 00:33:40,724 EXAMINER, THEY WERE FAIRLY 966 00:33:40,724 --> 00:33:45,758 CERTAIN THAT IT WAS MY DAUGHTER. 967 00:33:45,758 --> 00:33:47,000 >> I WAS ON THE FLOOR AND LIKE 968 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,448 SCREAM CRYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO 969 00:33:48,448 --> 00:33:49,586 YOU SAY WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU 970 00:33:49,586 --> 00:33:50,379 SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 971 00:33:50,379 --> 00:33:56,068 THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN 972 00:33:56,068 --> 00:33:56,655 SAY. 973 00:33:56,655 --> 00:33:59,172 >> FOR MADDI'S BEST FRIEND 974 00:33:59,172 --> 00:34:01,689 KATIE, THE NEWS WAS SHATTERING. 975 00:34:01,689 --> 00:34:03,793 HER REACTION CAPTURED ON HER 976 00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:12,206 VIDEO DOORBELL CAMERA. 977 00:34:12,206 --> 00:34:14,344 >> THE VERY NEXT DAY MADDI'S 978 00:34:14,344 --> 00:34:17,447 FRIENDS HEARD THE NEWS FROM 979 00:34:17,447 --> 00:34:18,551 WINONA'S POLICE CHIEF. 980 00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:19,688 >> LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS CONFIRMED 981 00:34:19,688 --> 00:34:21,655 THE REMAINS ARE THOSE OF 982 00:34:21,655 --> 00:34:28,827 MADELINE KINGSBURY. 983 00:34:28,827 --> 00:34:32,172 >> YOU CAN'T EVER PREPARE 984 00:34:32,172 --> 00:34:36,137 YOURSELF FOR ONE OF YOUR 985 00:34:36,137 --> 00:34:41,516 CHILDREN TO DIE, MUCH LESS BE 986 00:34:41,516 --> 00:34:46,516 FOUND SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE FOUND AS 987 00:34:46,516 --> 00:34:48,344 SHE WAS. 988 00:34:48,344 --> 00:34:52,206 >> SHE WAS WRAPPED IN A GRAY 989 00:34:52,206 --> 00:34:56,000 FITTED BED SHEET THAT HAD BLACK 990 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,655 DUCT TAPE AROUND THE ENDS, AND 991 00:34:59,655 --> 00:35:03,034 THERE WAS A TOWEL WRAPPED AROUND 992 00:35:03,034 --> 00:35:04,000 HER HEAD. 993 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,413 >> ADAM FRAVEL WAS ARRESTED AND 994 00:35:06,413 --> 00:35:08,103 CHARGED WITH SECOND DEGREE 995 00:35:08,103 --> 00:35:08,448 MURDER. 996 00:35:08,448 --> 00:35:10,896 THE GRAY BED SHEET WRAPPED 997 00:35:10,896 --> 00:35:12,689 AROUND MADDI, ACCORDING TO THE 998 00:35:12,689 --> 00:35:14,137 CRIMINAL COMPLAINT, SEEMED TO 999 00:35:14,137 --> 00:35:16,965 MATCH A SET FOUND IN MADDI'S 1000 00:35:16,965 --> 00:35:17,137 HOME. 1001 00:35:17,137 --> 00:35:19,206 AND THE ISOLATED ROAD WHERE 1002 00:35:19,206 --> 00:35:21,344 MADDI'S REMAINS WERE FOUND, 1003 00:35:21,344 --> 00:35:22,793 ACCORDING TO HA CRIMINAL 1004 00:35:22,793 --> 00:35:24,827 COMPLAINT, HAD BEEN MAINTAINED 1005 00:35:24,827 --> 00:35:28,172 BY THE FRAVEL FAMILY AT ONE 1006 00:35:28,172 --> 00:35:29,379 POINT. 1007 00:35:29,379 --> 00:35:29,689 HAD 1008 00:35:29,689 --> 00:35:31,620 THIS AREA IS ALSO CLOSE TO THE 1009 00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:32,862 TOWNSHIP OF CHOICE WHERE POLICE 1010 00:35:32,862 --> 00:35:36,000 BELIEVE THERE ARE 45 MINUTES 1011 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:43,034 UNACCOUNTED FOR IN ADAM'S TIME 1012 00:35:43,034 --> 00:35:43,689 LINE. 1013 00:35:43,689 --> 00:35:45,793 >> THIS AREA HERE IN THIS 1014 00:35:45,793 --> 00:35:47,965 CULVERT IS WHERE MADDI'S BODY 1015 00:35:47,965 --> 00:35:48,931 WAS FOUND. 1016 00:35:48,931 --> 00:35:52,413 SOMEONE LEFT A LITTLE ANGEL HERE 1017 00:35:52,413 --> 00:35:54,793 TO MARK THE SPOT. 1018 00:35:54,793 --> 00:35:56,137 >> MADDI'S AUTOPSY LISTED HER 1019 00:35:56,137 --> 00:36:01,034 CAUSE OF DEATH AS HOMICIDAL 1020 00:36:01,034 --> 00:36:02,310 VIOLENCE, NOTHING MORE. 1021 00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:05,620 AND IN OCTOBER 2023, ADAM WAS 1022 00:36:05,620 --> 00:36:06,896 INDICTED ON ADDITIONAL FIRST 1023 00:36:06,896 --> 00:36:09,862 DEGREE MURDER CHARGES. 1024 00:36:09,862 --> 00:36:11,000 ADAM'S POSSIBE MOTIVE FOR 1025 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,931 MURDER, IN A WARRANT 1026 00:36:12,931 --> 00:36:14,793 INVESTIGATORS ALLEGE ADAM WAS IN 1027 00:36:14,793 --> 00:36:19,413 DISTRESS DUE TO HIS FINANCIAL 1028 00:36:19,413 --> 00:36:21,206 DEPENDENCE ON MADDI AND WAS 1029 00:36:21,206 --> 00:36:24,241 UPSET ABOUT THE END OF THEIR 1030 00:36:24,241 --> 00:36:25,034 RELATIONSHIP. 1031 00:36:25,034 --> 00:36:26,206 INVESTIGATORS ALSO LEARNED THAT 1032 00:36:26,206 --> 00:36:31,000 MADDI HAD A DEATH BENEFIT OF 1033 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,448 $170,000 BUT HAD NOT LISTED A 1034 00:36:33,448 --> 00:36:33,827 BENEFICIARY. 1035 00:36:33,827 --> 00:36:35,413 >> SHE WAS HIS MEAL TICKET. 1036 00:36:35,413 --> 00:36:37,896 SHE WAS THE ONE WHO PROVIDED FOR 1037 00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:38,517 THEM. 1038 00:36:38,517 --> 00:36:40,275 >> ACCORDING TO A SEARCH 1039 00:36:40,275 --> 00:36:41,896 WARRANT, WHEN POLICE ENTERED THE 1040 00:36:41,896 --> 00:36:43,068 COUPLE'S HOUSE, THEY NOTICED 1041 00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:44,758 THAT SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS INSIDE 1042 00:36:44,758 --> 00:36:47,758 THE HOME HAD BEEN REMOVED AND 1043 00:36:47,758 --> 00:36:50,000 FORMER PROSECUTOR MARY FULGINITI 1044 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,551 SAYS IT'S THE WAY THEY APPEARED 1045 00:36:51,551 --> 00:36:53,758 TO HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN THAT 1046 00:36:53,758 --> 00:36:55,344 CAUGHT DETECTIVES' ATTENTION. 1047 00:36:55,344 --> 00:36:56,689 >> THEY FOUND THAT THE 1048 00:36:56,689 --> 00:36:58,793 SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS THAT HE HAD 1049 00:36:58,793 --> 00:37:00,068 INSTALLED HAD BEEN RIPPED OUT, 1050 00:37:00,068 --> 00:37:01,068 THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER THERE, 1051 00:37:01,068 --> 00:37:03,896 SO ALL OF THOSE ARE INDICATORS 1052 00:37:03,896 --> 00:37:05,379 OF, YOU KNOW, HE'S UP TO 1053 00:37:05,379 --> 00:37:06,965 SOMETHING IN CONSCIOUSNESS OF 1054 00:37:06,965 --> 00:37:07,206 GUILT. 1055 00:37:07,206 --> 00:37:10,655 >> HE HAD THOSE DOWN WEEKS 1056 00:37:10,655 --> 00:37:10,965 BEFORE. 1057 00:37:10,965 --> 00:37:12,344 THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF 1058 00:37:12,344 --> 00:37:12,655 MOVING. 1059 00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:14,931 >> ADAM'S SISTER AND BROTHER SAY 1060 00:37:14,931 --> 00:37:16,931 AT ONE POINT BEFORE MADDI AND 1061 00:37:16,931 --> 00:37:18,862 ADAM BROKE UP, THE COUPLE WAS 1062 00:37:18,862 --> 00:37:21,655 PLANNING TO MOVE TOGETHER TO 1063 00:37:21,655 --> 00:37:23,862 ADAM'S PARENTS' HOME. 1064 00:37:23,862 --> 00:37:25,275 >> WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT 1065 00:37:25,275 --> 00:37:30,620 THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THIS 1066 00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:30,827 STORY. 1067 00:37:30,827 --> 00:37:31,413 >> TAKE, FOR INSTANCE, THOSE 1068 00:37:31,413 --> 00:37:33,724 CADAVER DOGS ALERTING TO THE 1069 00:37:33,724 --> 00:37:35,551 UTILITY REEKVEHICLE AND SHOVEL. 1070 00:37:35,551 --> 00:37:36,586 ADAM'S FAMILY SAYS THAT'S 1071 00:37:36,586 --> 00:37:37,413 BECAUSE ON THE PREVIOUS WEEKEND 1072 00:37:37,413 --> 00:37:39,206 THEIR DAD USED THAT SHOVEL TO 1073 00:37:39,206 --> 00:37:41,448 MOVE A DEAD RACCOON. 1074 00:37:41,448 --> 00:37:43,448 >> THAT HE USED THE SHOVEL TO 1075 00:37:43,448 --> 00:37:44,172 PICK IT UP. 1076 00:37:44,172 --> 00:37:46,413 EVERY TIME WE WOULD TRY TO 1077 00:37:46,413 --> 00:37:47,793 CLARIFY ANYTHING TO THE 1078 00:37:47,793 --> 00:37:49,344 INVESTIGATORS WE WERE JUST 1079 00:37:49,344 --> 00:37:51,448 TREATED WITH LIKE WE'RE JUST 1080 00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:53,241 DELUSIONAL. 1081 00:37:53,241 --> 00:37:56,310 I BELIEVE ADAM 150% THAT HE IS 1082 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:56,862 INNOCENT. 1083 00:37:56,862 --> 00:38:00,000 HE WOULD NEVER HARM MADDI, THE 1084 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,310 MOTHER TO HIS CHILDREN, YOU 1085 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:02,620 KNOW. 1086 00:38:02,620 --> 00:38:04,517 HE'D NEVER DO SUCH A THING. 1087 00:38:04,517 --> 00:38:07,068 >> ADAM'S DEFENSE TEAM HAS ASKED 1088 00:38:07,068 --> 00:38:10,000 A JUDGE TO SUPPRESS ADAM'S 1089 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,551 POLICE INTERVIEW BECAUSE, THEY 1090 00:38:11,551 --> 00:38:13,103 CLAIM, HE WASN'T READ HIS 1091 00:38:13,103 --> 00:38:14,172 MIRANDA RIGHTS. 1092 00:38:14,172 --> 00:38:16,310 IT'S THE INTERVIEW WHERE HE 1093 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:17,793 ADMITTED MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT 1094 00:38:17,793 --> 00:38:20,000 GABBY PETITO BUT SAID HE WAS 1095 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,862 ONLY JOKING. 1096 00:38:22,862 --> 00:38:26,310 IN PRELIMINARY HEARINGS, HIS 1097 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:31,000 LAWYERS ALSO SAY WILLTHERE IS MOTTENOT 1098 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,241 ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT THE 1099 00:38:32,241 --> 00:38:34,620 FIRST DEGREE MURDER CHARGE. 1100 00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:35,413 ADAM'S SIBLINGS INSIST 1101 00:38:35,413 --> 00:38:36,482 AUTHORITIES SHOULD TAKE A CLOSER 1102 00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:38,275 LOOK AT SPENCER SULLIVAN. 1103 00:38:38,275 --> 00:38:41,551 >> WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THE 1104 00:38:41,551 --> 00:38:43,965 INVESTIGATORS' EYES THAT 1105 00:38:43,965 --> 00:38:44,758 SOMETHING ELSE COULD EASILY HAVE 1106 00:38:44,758 --> 00:38:45,000 HAPPENED. 1107 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,275 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? 1108 00:38:47,275 --> 00:38:51,241 >> I MEAN, THEY'RE TRYING TO 1109 00:38:51,241 --> 00:38:52,034 PROTECT ADAM. 1110 00:38:52,034 --> 00:38:52,896 THEY KIND OF NEED TO COME TO 1111 00:38:52,896 --> 00:38:55,620 TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT MY 1112 00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:57,724 PERSONAL OPINION, THEY GOT THE 1113 00:38:57,724 --> 00:38:58,034 RIGHT PERSON. 1114 00:38:58,034 --> 00:38:59,241 >> THERE'S A PRESUMPTION OF 1115 00:38:59,241 --> 00:39:02,000 INNOCENCE IN OUR LEGAL SYSTEM, 1116 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,275 OF COURSE, THAT EVERYBODY'S 1117 00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:06,448 ENTITLED TO, BUT THERE'S ALSO A 1118 00:39:06,448 --> 00:39:08,000 COURT OF COMMON SENSE, AND IN 1119 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,275 THE COURT OF COMMON SENSE, ALL 1120 00:39:12,275 --> 00:39:12,827 ROADS LEAD TO ADAM FRAVEL. 1121 00:39:12,827 --> 00:39:16,448 >> THE KINGSBURY FAMILY IS 1122 00:39:16,448 --> 00:39:18,862 SPEAKING OUT NOW IN HOPES OF 1123 00:39:18,862 --> 00:39:19,310 SAVING SOMEONE ELSE. 1124 00:39:19,310 --> 00:39:21,758 >> THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE 1125 00:39:21,758 --> 00:39:23,413 HERE, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY 1126 00:39:23,413 --> 00:39:27,620 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE 1127 00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:28,241 WE DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN TO 1128 00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:28,620 ANYBODY ELSE. 1129 00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:32,137 >> THIS IS EMOTIONALLY VERY 1130 00:39:32,137 --> 00:39:34,206 POWERFUL RIGHT MOW FOR YOUNOW FOR YOU. 1131 00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:35,172 YOU DON'T BLAME YOURSELF FOR 1132 00:39:35,172 --> 00:39:35,931 THIS, DO YOU? 1133 00:39:35,931 --> 00:39:37,344 >> I THINK WE ALL BLAME 1134 00:39:37,344 --> 00:39:38,448 OURSELVES TO SOME DEGREE BECAUSE 1135 00:39:38,448 --> 00:39:39,655 WHEN I WOULD TALK TO HER, I 1136 00:39:39,655 --> 00:39:42,000 DIDN'T PUSH, YOU KNOW. 1137 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,137 I WANTED HER TO BE ABLE TO SAY 1138 00:39:43,137 --> 00:39:47,103 THINGS WHEN SHE WAS READY TO SAY 1139 00:39:47,103 --> 00:39:47,344 THINGS. 1140 00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:48,448 >> HE HAD HIS HOOKS IN HER, AND 1141 00:39:48,448 --> 00:39:51,103 THE KIDS MAKE IT REALLY 1142 00:39:51,103 --> 00:39:51,379 DIFFICULT. 1143 00:39:51,379 --> 00:39:54,310 >> FOR MADDI'S FATHER, WHATEVER 1144 00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:56,793 THE JURY DECIDES, THERE IS A 1145 00:39:56,793 --> 00:39:59,137 LARGER TRUTH THAT HAUNTS HIM. 1146 00:39:59,137 --> 00:40:00,620 >> I'LL ALWAYS BE THE FATHER OF 1147 00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:05,517 A MURDERED GIRL. 1148 00:40:05,517 --> 00:40:07,931 >> SPENCER SULLIVAN TOLD US HE 1149 00:40:07,931 --> 00:40:10,137 TOO FEELS HAUNTED BY A 1150 00:40:10,137 --> 00:40:13,241 CONVERSATION HE AND MADDI HAD 1151 00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:14,724 WEEKS BEFORE SHE VANISHED. 1152 00:40:14,724 --> 00:40:17,689 >> SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE WAS IN 1153 00:40:17,689 --> 00:40:21,034 LOVE WITH ME, UNFORTUNATELY I 1154 00:40:21,034 --> 00:40:22,448 WAS TOO CHICKEN [ BLEEP ] TO SAY 1155 00:40:22,448 --> 00:40:23,034 IT BACK. 1156 00:40:23,034 --> 00:40:24,310 >> DOES THAT BOTHER YOU? 1157 00:40:24,310 --> 00:40:28,206 >> EVERY DAY. 1158 00:40:28,206 --> 00:40:32,758 >> I SAW A FUTURE WITH MADDI, 1159 00:40:32,758 --> 00:40:34,310 AND IT FELT LIKE SOMEBODY JUST 1160 00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:37,655 RIPPED THE NEXT 50 YEARS OUT OF 1161 00:40:37,655 --> 00:40:38,241 MY LIFE. 1162 00:40:38,241 --> 00:40:41,206 >> FOR MEGAN, WHO IS SO CLOSE 1163 00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:42,965 WITH HER LITTLE SISTER, SHE 1164 00:40:42,965 --> 00:40:44,931 STILL CAN'T IMAGINE A FUTURE 1165 00:40:44,931 --> 00:40:47,931 WITHOUT MADDI. 1166 00:40:47,931 --> 00:40:50,172 >> I FEEL LIKE EVEN JUST SAYING 1167 00:40:50,172 --> 00:40:56,068 THAT WE'RE SISTERS DOESN'T 1168 00:40:56,068 --> 00:40:56,689 DESCRIBE BEING THE CLOSENESS 1169 00:40:56,689 --> 00:40:57,620 THAT WE HAD. 1170 00:40:57,620 --> 00:41:00,482 WE WERE CONFIDANTS FOR EACH 1171 00:41:00,482 --> 00:41:00,689 OTHER. 1172 00:41:00,689 --> 00:41:03,655 >> HOW DO YOU WANT MADDI TO BE 1173 00:41:03,655 --> 00:41:03,965 REMEMBERED? 1174 00:41:03,965 --> 00:41:05,413 >> SOMEBODY THAT MATTERED. 1175 00:41:05,413 --> 00:41:07,482 I MEAN, I THINK EVERYTHING WE'VE 1176 00:41:07,482 --> 00:41:10,965 SEEN AND HEARD FROM PEOPLE 1177 00:41:10,965 --> 00:41:13,965 REALLY AFFIRMED THAT SHE 1178 00:41:13,965 --> 00:41:16,620 MATTERED TO MANY, MANY PEOPLE. 1179 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:19,862 ALL OF HER FRIENDS SAID SHE'S MY 1180 00:41:19,862 --> 00:41:20,620 BEST FRIEND. 1181 00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:32,793 BEST FRIEND. SHE WAS EVERYBODY'S BEST FRIEND. 1182 00:41:32,793 --> 00:41:38,965 SHE WAS EVERYBODY'S BEST FRIEND. 1183 00:41:38,965 --> 00:41:39,862 >>> A MYSTERIOUS ILLNESS TURNS 1184 00:41:39,862 --> 00:41:42,206 FATAL FOLLOWED BY A SURPRISING 1185 00:41:42,206 --> 00:41:42,896 TOXICOLOGY REPORT. 1186 00:41:42,896 --> 00:41:47,862 >> THE MEDICAL EXAMINER FOUND T 1187 00:41:47,862 --> 00:41:49,068 TET RA HIGH DROZ LEAN IN LYNN 1188 00:41:49,068 --> 00:41:52,241 HER NON'S SISTER. 1189 00:41:52,241 --> 00:41:53,827 >> HOW MUCH DOES HER CAREGIVER 1190 00:41:53,827 --> 00:41:54,000 KNOW? 1191 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,724 >> I DIDN'T GIVE HER ANYTHING. 1192 00:41:57,724 --> 00:41:58,931 >> "48 HOURS" SATURDAY ON CBS 1193 00:41:58,931 --> 00:42:00,000 >> "48 HOURS" SATURDAY ON CBS STREAMING ON PARAMOUNT PLUS.