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>>> WE ALL LIVE TWO LIVES.

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ONLY THE MOST INTIMATE PEOPLE

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THAT WE KNOW REALLY KNOW WHO WE

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ARE.

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>> 911, DO YOU NEED POLICE OR

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PARAMEDICS.

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>> UH, PARAMEDICS.

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>> IT BEGINS WITH A 911 CALL

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FROM THE HOUSE.

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>> IT WAS SUNDAY MORNING, YEAR

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2016.

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>> WHAT'S THE ADDRESS OF THE

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EMERGENCY?

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>> A NEW COMMUNITY.

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IT'S KIND OF CONSIDERED A SLEEPY

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LITTLE TOWN.

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NICE PLACE TO WORK.

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NICE PLACE TO LIVE.

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>> AND WHAT'S HAPPENED?

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>> WE HAVE A PATIENT HERE WHO'S

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FALLEN OFF STAIRS AND I DON'T

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HAVE A PULSE AND SHE'S COLD.

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>> ERIC SCOTT SILLS IS A

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FERTILITY DOCTOR.

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>> PARTIALLY ON THE STAIRS.

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>> SUSANN SILLS IS HER WIFE.

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>> LOOKS LIKE HER SHOE HAS COME

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OFF.

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>> MOTHER OF TWINS, A BOY AND A

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GIRL.

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>> SO SHE'S NOT BREATHING?

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>> NO, SHE'S NOT BREATHING.

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>> SHE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS FOUND

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THAT MORNING.

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>> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU

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INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHEST

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COMPRESSIONS, OKAY?

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>> THEY HAD IT ON THE

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SPEAKERPHONE, SO SCOTT AND MARY

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HEARD ON THE 911 CALL.

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>> WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO,

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>> CPR.

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>> I'M DOING THE CPR.

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>> DR. SILLS WAS AN INFERTILITY

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>> KEEP GOING.

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KEEP GOING.

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>> I'M GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY.

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>> THEY RAN THEIR CLINIC AS

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PARTNERS.

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>> SUSANN TOOK CARE OF ALL THE

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BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS.

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>> CONTINUE THE COMPRESSIONS

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UNTIL PARAMEDICS ARRIVE AND TAKE

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>> SHE'S MAKING NOISES OUT OF

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HER MOUTH.

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>> SHE WAS HIS NUMBER ONE

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SUPPORTER IN EVERYTHING THAT HE

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THEY REALLY LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD

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BABY, COME ON.

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COMPRESSIONS, BUT I THINK SHE

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>> WE GET NOTIFIED BY OUR

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SERGEANT TO COME OUT TO A HOUSE

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>> SO WHEN YOU WENT INSIDE, WHAT

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STUCK OUT TO YOU?

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>> WELL, AS SOON AS YOU GO INTO

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SUSANN WAS RIGHT THERE.

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SHE HAD A BLANKET COVERING HER

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>> WE COULD SEE THE OTHER THINGS

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LAYING AROUND THIS, STAINLESS

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>> HER NECK HAD A PRETTY

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>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW WAS SHE

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>> WHEN SHE WAS FOUND, SCOTT --

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>> THE SCARF WAS AROUND HER

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>> I THINK THE FIRST DAY THERE

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WAS MENTION OF DOGS MAYBE

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>> THEY HAD A COUPLE DOGS,

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RESCUES.

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MARY KATE SAY THE DOGS PULLING

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ON THE SCARF.

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PULLING.

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>> DO YOU THINK THAT THE DOGS

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COULD HAVE PULLED ON HER SCARF

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HARD ENOUGH TO STRANGLE HER TO

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>> COULD THEY DO IT?

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>> WHEN YOU CAME TO THE HOUSE,

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CUT AS THAT.

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>>> DO YOU HAVE A SPIDY SENSE

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WHEN YOU GO INTO THESE SCENES?

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK SO.

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PROBABLY ALL OF US WOULD LIKE TO

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THINK SO WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT AS

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SOON AS WE WALK IN, SHERLOCK

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HOLMES-STYLE.

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>> Reporter: ON THAT SUNDAY

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MORNING, NOVEMBER 2016, ORANGE

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COUNTY SHERIFF'S HOMICIDE

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DETECTIVES ERIC HATCH AND DAVE

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HOLLOWAY HAD MORE QUESTIONS THAN

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CLUES.

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AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THAT

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MORNING, NOVEMBER 13th, WAS

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SCOTT SILLS A VICTIM OR A

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SUSPECT?

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>> TO US, HE WAS A VICTIM.

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WE WERE GOING TO A HOUSE WHERE

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TWO KIDS AND A HUSBAND JUST LOST

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THEIR WIFE AND MOTHER.

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>> Reporter: DR. SCOTT SILLS HAD

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MADE THAT 911 CALL AND REPORTED

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FINDING HIS WIFE AND BUSINESS

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PARTNER, SUSANN, AT THE BOTTOM

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OF THE STAIRS.

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>> Reporter: DID IT SEEM

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WOMAN IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE WOULD

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HER DEATH?

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>> AT THE TIME, IT SOUNDED

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>> SUSANN HAD INJURIES TO PRETTY

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MUCH HER WHOLE BODY.

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HER FACE WAS ALL BRUISED UP.

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HER BACK WAS BRUISED UP.

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>> Reporter: AND AROUND HER BODY

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ESPECIALLY THAT STEEL POT.

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>> Reporter: THE DETECTIVES SAID

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THAT THEY WERE IN HIS HOME

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>> HOW COOPERATIVE WAS ME?

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>> HE GAVE US PERMISSION TO

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>> WHEN WE INTERVIEWED THE SILLS

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ERIC, THE 12-YEAR-OLD TWINS,

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THEIR DAD, THAT SUSANN HAD NOT

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A BOWL IN ORDER TO HAVE IT NEAR

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HER BEDSIDE IN CASE SHE THREW UP

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>> Reporter: AND THE EMPTY PILL

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BOTTLE WAS FOR A PAIN MEDICATION

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FALLEN DOWN THE STAIRS BECAUSE

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>> Reporter: AND THERE SEEMED TO

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RELATIONSHIP TO SUGGEST ANOTHER

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SILLS' MARRIAGE?

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EVERYTHING WAS FINE.

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>> Reporter: BOTH CHILDREN

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ATTESTED THAT THEIR PARENTS

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LOVED EACH OTHER AND SAID THEY

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RARELY ARGUED.

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DETECTIVES STARTED PIECING

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TOGETHER A TIMELINE OF THE

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WEEKEND.

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>> SATURDAY NIGHT, SHE WAS ON

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THE COUCH.

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ERIC CAME DOWN TO SEE HER, CHECK

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ON HER, MAKE SURE SHE WAS OKAY.

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MIDNIGHT WHEN ERIC SAID HE AND

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HIS MOM WENT BACK UPSTAIRS AFTER

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SHE PUT THE DOGS AWAY IN THEIR

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CRATE.

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MARY KATHERINE HAD GONE TO BED

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NIGHT IN MARY KATHERINE'S ROOM,

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WHICH WAS THE QUIETEST.

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>> IT WAS MARY KATHERINE'S IDEA

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THAT ROOM.

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IT WAS CLEAN, ACCORDING TO MARY

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KATHERINE.

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AND DONE UP LIKE A LITTLE HOTEL

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SUITE FOR SUSANN TO CON VELESS

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IN THERE.

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>> Reporter: MAIG LEFT A NOTE ON

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HER DOOR WITH WHAT WOULD BE HER

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LAST WORDS TO HER MOM.

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I KNOW YOU ARE TIRED, SHE SAID.

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BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT I LOVE

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YOU.

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>> Reporter: AROUND 4:00 A.M.,

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ERIC SAID HE WOKE TO THE SOUND

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OF HIS PARENTS ARGUING IN THE

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NEXT ROOM.

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>> THE TWO WINDOWS THAT'S ERIC'S

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ROOM.

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>> SO ERIC IS RIGHT NEXT TO MARY

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KATHERINE'S ROOM WHERE HIS MOM

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WAS.

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>> YEAH, YEAH.

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>> AND WHAT DID HE TELL YOU HE

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HEARD?

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>> HE HEARD LOUD VOICES ARGUING,

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BUT HE DIDN'T DESCRIBE HEARING

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ANY PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION.

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>> ERIC TOLD DETECTIVES THAT

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AFTER ABOUT FIVE MINUTES HE

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DECIDED TO GO SLEEP IN THE MAIN

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BEDROOM WITH HIS SISTER.

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ACCORDING TO MARY KATHERINE'S

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STATEMENT, SHE THOUGHT HE'D COME

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IN AROUND 3:40 A.M. AND TOLD HER

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THEIR PARENTS WERE ARGUING ABOUT

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A WORK EMAIL.

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>> HOW DO YOU KNOW SHE GOT AN

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ESNAIL.

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>> BECAUSE ERIC SAID THEY WERE

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TALKING ABOUT THAT.

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>> OH, OKAY.

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SO ERIC TOLD YOU THAT SHE GOT AN

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EMAIL.

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AND THAT SHE WAS -- IT WAS ABOUT

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SOMETHING --

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>> SOMETHING ABOUT WORK.

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>> Reporter: DR. SILLS TOLD

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DETECTIVES HE HAD ARGUED WITH

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SUSANN BECAUSE HE FOUND HER

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WORKING LATE ON HER LAPTOP,

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WHICH MADE HER MIGRAINES WORSE.

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WHEN YOU HEARD THAT THEY HAD AN

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ARGUMENT SHORTLY BEFORE SHE WAS

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FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE

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STAIRS DEAD, WHAT WAS GOING

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THROUGH YOUR MIND?

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>> WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE MORE

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PIECE OF DATA WE'RE GOING TO

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COLLECT.

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IT DOESN'T MEAN ONE WAY OR

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ANOTHER THAT IT WAS A MURDER,

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BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY AN AVENUE

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THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE.

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>> Reporter: NEITHER ERIC NOR

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MARY KATHERINE HEARD THEIR DAD

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RETURN TO THE BEDROOM.

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>> I WOKE UP AND MY DAD WAS JUST

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ON THE COVERS JUST LAYING THERE.

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THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM TO GET

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IN SO HE WAS LAYING ON IT.

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>> ON TOP OF IT?

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>> YEAH.

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>> Reporter: IT WAS AROUND 6:30

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A.M. THE NEXT MORNING WHEN DR.

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SILLS AND THE TWINS WOKE UP.

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HE ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO

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GO TO THE POOL AND GET SOME

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DONUTS.

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MARY KATHERINE SAID WHEN SHE

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LEFT THE BEDROOM AND LOOKED OVER

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THE BANISTER, SHE SAW HER MOM'S

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BODY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE

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STAIRS.

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THAT LONG, RED AND WHITE SCARF

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AROUND HER NECK.

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♪

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>> THAT WAS MARY KATHERINE'S

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SCARF.

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IT WAS FOUND IN THE SAME ROOM AS

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SUSANN'S BODY.

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>> BUT THE SCARF WASN'T ON HER

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BODY?

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>> WHEN WE ARRIVED, IT WAS NOT.

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MARY KATHERINE TOLD US THAT SHE

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HAD TO REMOVE THE SCARF AND SHE

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DID THAT NOT TO IMPEDE MOM'S

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BREATHING.

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>> Reporter: ADDING TO THE

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MYSTERY, WERE THE INJURIES TO

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SUSANN'S NECK, THE DEPUTY

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CORONER HAD NOTICED DURING HER

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PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION OF THE

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BODY EARLIER THAT MORNING.

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>> ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIGATURE

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MARK ACROSS HER NECK, IT JUST

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DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

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>> Reporter: IS IT POSSIBLE SHE

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COULD HAVE FALLEN DOWN THE

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STAIRS AND SOMEHOW THE SCARF

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STRANGLED HER?

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>> COULD HAVE CAUGHT ON A

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BANISTER, SURE.

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I SUPPOSE SO, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE

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ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT.

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>> Reporter: AS DETECTIVES

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CONTINUED THEIR INVESTIGATION,

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THE QUESTIONS MOUNTED.

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DID ANYBODY IN THE HOUSE HEAR A

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FALL DOWN THE STAIRS?

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>> NO.

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NOBODY DESCRIBED HEARING A FALL

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DOWN THE STAIRS OR SUSANN WAS

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CARRYING THAT STAINLESS STEEL

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POT, NO ONE HEARD THAT BOUNCE

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DOWN THE STAIRS OR LAND ON THE

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TILE FLOOR.

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THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE ON THE

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STAIRS OF SOMEONE GOING DOWN,

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BROKEN BALLSTER OR ANYTHING LIKE

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THAT.

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♪

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>> Reporter: AND SOMETHING ELSE

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THE DETECTIVES THOUGHT WAS

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STRANGE.

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>> IT WAS A WARM DAY EVEN THOUGH

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IT WAS NOVEMBER.

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BUT WHEN WE SPOKE WITH SCOTT AND

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DURING THE WHOLE TIME WE WERE IN

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THE HOUSE DOING OUR

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INVESTIGATION, HE WAS WEARING A

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BEANIE OVER HIS HEAD.

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HE SAID HE SLEPT WITH IT BECAUSE

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IT WAS COLD.

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>> DID YOU ASK HIM TO REMOVE THE

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BEANIE?

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>> YES.

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>> Reporter: AS IT TURNED OUT,

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SUSANN WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WITH

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INJURIES THAT MORNING.

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♪

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>>> WE DISCOVERED THAT SCOTT HAD

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SOME INJURIES.

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HE HAD CUT UP HERE ON HIS

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FOREHEAD.

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AND ON HIS ARM HE HAD A BRUISE.

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>> DR. SCOTT SILLS SAID THERE

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WAS A SIMPLE EXPLANATION FOR THE

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INJURIES.

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HE HAD HURT HIMSELF WHILE

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WORKING ON HIS CAR IN THE GARAGE

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WITH HIS SON ERIC.

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THERE WAS JUST ONE PROBLEM --

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>> ERIC TOLD US DAD DIDN'T HURT

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HIMSELF.

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>> DID HE SAY TO YOU I LEFT THE

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GARAGE, SO MAYBE HE HURT HIMSELF

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WHIL I WAS GONE?

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>> NO, HE TOLD US THEY CAME IN

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THE HOUSE TOGETHER.

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>> Reporter: AND INVESTIGATORS

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SAID THEY FOUND SOMETHING DR.

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SILLS COULDN'T EXPLAIN ON THAT

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DAY.

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YOU FOUND BLOOD?

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>> YES.

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>> BLOOD IN MARY KATHERINE'S

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ROOM.

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WHERE SUSANN HAD BEEN STAYING ON

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THE CURTAINS, THE WALL, AND THE

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NIGHT STAND.

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SO, THAT MORNING, WHEN YOU ASKED

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SCOTT ABOUT THE BLOOD, WHAT DID

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HE SAY?

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>> HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME

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FROM.

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HE WAS UNAWARE OF IT.

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>> Reporter: MARY KATE TOLD

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INVESTIGATORS THE ROOM WAS,

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QUOTE, PERFECT WHEN SHE LEFT IT.

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SHE ALSO SAID SHE TURNED DOWN

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THE BED, BUT NOW IT WAS MADE.

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>> DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.

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WHY WOULD SUSANN TAKE THE TIME

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TO MAKE THE BED THE MIDDLE OF

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THE NIGHT?

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>> SO IF YOU FOUND BLOOD IN MARY

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KATHERINE'S BEDROOM, YOU KNOW

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THAT THERE ARE LIGATURE MARKS ON

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SUSANN, WHY NOT TAKE HIM DOWN TO

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THE STATION AT THIS POINT AND

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QUESTION HIM?

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>> ONCE YOU ARREST SOMEBODY,

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THAT STARTS PROCESSES THAT YOU

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CAN'T STOP.

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BESIDES THE BLOOD IN THE

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BEDROOM, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE

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ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF A FIGHT

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OCCURRING.

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SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE

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WASN'T ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE

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LEGALLY TO ARREST HIM.

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>> SUSANN'S AUTOPSY FOUR DAYS

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LATER DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY

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DEFINITIVE ANSWERS.

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THE FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST NOTED

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THAT SUSANN HAD INJURIES ALL

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OVER HER BODY THAT COULD HAVE

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RESULTED FROM A FALL, INCLUDING

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A FRACTURED C3 VERTEBRA, NEAR

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THE BASE OF HER NECK WHICH CAN

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BE FATAL.

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THEN THERE WAS THAT LIGATURE

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MARK ACROSS HER NECK AND

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HEMORRHAGING OF BLOOD VESSELS IN

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HER EYES WHICH POINTED TO

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STRANGULATION.

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IT WOULD TAKE MONTHS TO MAKE AN

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OFFICIAL RULING.

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>> IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY WANT

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TO RUSH INTO OR MAKE A RASH

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JUDGMENT ON.

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THE DOCTOR WANTED TO EXAMINE THE

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WHOLE CASE MORE CLEARLY.

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>> Reporter: IN THE MEANTIME,

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DETECTIVES REQUESTED DNA TESTING

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ON EVIDENCE COLLECTED FROM THE

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SILLS HOME AND FORENSIC ANALYSIS

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ON SUSANN'S PHONE AND LAPTOP.

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THEY ALSO DUG DEEPER INTO WHO

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THE SILLS WERE.

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>> NONE OF THEIR IMMEDIATE

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NEIGHBORS KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT

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THE FAMILY.

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EVENUALLY WE CONTACTED WHOEVER

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WE COULD OUT OF THEIR CONTACT

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LIST TO TRY TO FIND OUT MORE.

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>> IN HIGH SCHOOL I THOUGHT THIS

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MUST BE WHAT GENIUS MEANS.

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HIS HUMOR, HIS QUICK WHIT.

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>> SANDY ROBERTS AND JAMIE AKINS

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HAVE KNOWN SCOTT SILLS SINCE

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THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DAYS IN

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TENNESSEE.

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>> HE WAS SOMETHING WE HAD NEVER

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SEEN BEFORE.

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IN A SMALL TOWN IN TENNESSEE AT

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THAT AGE, HE WAS VERY SPECIAL.

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>> HE WAS HILARIOUS.

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I MEAN, PEOPLE COME TO CLASS IN

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A THREE PIECE SUIT AND IT'S NOT

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DRESS-UP DAY.

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>> HE'S FLAMBOYANT.

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HE'S BIGGER THAN LIFE.

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HE WAS VERY, VERY KIND.

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>> I GREW UP PRETTY POOR.

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I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR IN HIGH

528
00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:33,448
SCHOOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

529
00:15:33,448 --> 00:15:35,793
AND A LOT OF TIMES NO LUNCH

530
00:15:35,793 --> 00:15:36,000
MONEY.

531
00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,448
HE ALWAYS PULLED OUT HIS WALLET

532
00:15:37,448 --> 00:15:38,689
AND PAID FOR IT.

533
00:15:38,689 --> 00:15:40,482
IT JUST WASN'T A QUESTION.

534
00:15:40,482 --> 00:15:42,000
>> Reporter: HIS FUTURE SEEMED

535
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,275
LIMITLESS.

536
00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:44,275
HE WAS ACCEPTED TO BOTH LAW

537
00:15:44,275 --> 00:15:46,724
SCHOOL AND MEDICAL SCHOOL.

538
00:15:46,724 --> 00:15:48,137
>> WE WERE KIND OF ALL ON THE

539
00:15:48,137 --> 00:15:50,413
EDGE OF OUR SEAT WONDERING WHAT

540
00:15:50,413 --> 00:15:54,620
HE WAS GOING TO DECIDE TO DO.

541
00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:54,793
♪

542
00:15:54,793 --> 00:15:56,586
>> Reporter: AND IT WAS SO

543
00:15:56,586 --> 00:15:58,103
SURPRISE WHEN THE HOMETOWN BOY

544
00:15:58,103 --> 00:16:01,448
BECAME A ROW NOUNED IVF

545
00:16:01,448 --> 00:16:03,103
SPECIALIST, A PROFESSION THAT

546
00:16:03,103 --> 00:16:05,689
WOULD LEAD HIM TO SUSANN.

547
00:16:05,689 --> 00:16:06,827
>> SUSANN WAS GOING THROUGH

548
00:16:06,827 --> 00:16:08,344
FERTILITY TREATMENT, TRYING TO

549
00:16:08,344 --> 00:16:11,034
GET PREGNANT WITH HER FIRST

550
00:16:11,034 --> 00:16:11,310
HUSBAND.

551
00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:12,275
>> CHRIS MED SUSANN IN BUSINESS

552
00:16:12,275 --> 00:16:14,620
SCHOOL WHERE SHE EARNED AN MBA.

553
00:16:14,620 --> 00:16:15,965
SHE HAD CONFIDED IN HIM ABOUT

554
00:16:15,965 --> 00:16:18,551
HER STRUGGLES TO GET PREGNANT.

555
00:16:18,551 --> 00:16:21,344
>> HAVING KIDS WAS EVERYTHING TO

556
00:16:21,344 --> 00:16:21,586
SUSANN.

557
00:16:21,586 --> 00:16:22,379
SHE WOULD CRY ABOUT IT.

558
00:16:22,379 --> 00:16:25,758
I MEAN, IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO

559
00:16:25,758 --> 00:16:25,965
HER.

560
00:16:25,965 --> 00:16:30,413
AND ERIC SCOTT SILLS WAS HER

561
00:16:30,413 --> 00:16:31,620
FERTILITY DOCTOR.

562
00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:32,344
>> Reporter: BUT SOON CHRIS SAYS

563
00:16:32,344 --> 00:16:33,344
THEY WERE A COUPLE.

564
00:16:33,344 --> 00:16:37,137
>> SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT DR.

565
00:16:37,137 --> 00:16:39,862
SILLS AFTER SHE HAD TOLD ME SHE

566
00:16:39,862 --> 00:16:43,103
WAS GETTING DIVORCED AND THAT

567
00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:44,413
SHE WAS NOW DATING HIM.

568
00:16:44,413 --> 00:16:48,793
I JUST REMEMBER HER SAYING HE'S

569
00:16:48,793 --> 00:16:49,310
A BRILLIANT DOCTOR.

570
00:16:49,310 --> 00:16:50,620
>> Reporter: DR. SILLS, WHO WAS

571
00:16:50,620 --> 00:16:52,068
ALSO COMING OUT OF A PREVIOUS

572
00:16:52,068 --> 00:16:55,068
MARRIAGE, SEEMED TO HAVE MET HIS

573
00:16:55,068 --> 00:16:55,310
MATCH.

574
00:16:55,310 --> 00:17:00,103
>> SUSANN WAS SMART, WITTY.

575
00:17:00,103 --> 00:17:01,241
>> WE LOVE MR. SOCK.

576
00:17:01,241 --> 00:17:02,931
>> SARCASTIC BUT NOT IN A MEAN

577
00:17:02,931 --> 00:17:03,103
WAY.

578
00:17:03,103 --> 00:17:04,586
JUST ENOUGH TO DIG AT YOU.

579
00:17:04,586 --> 00:17:09,655
YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLY DRIVEN, A

580
00:17:09,655 --> 00:17:10,103
LOYAL FRIEND.

581
00:17:10,103 --> 00:17:12,241
>> SHE WAS SO CLASSY, SO

582
00:17:12,241 --> 00:17:13,862
BEAUTIFUL, VERY ENGAGING.

583
00:17:13,862 --> 00:17:16,103
>> SEEMED LIKE TO ME HE FOUND

584
00:17:16,103 --> 00:17:20,103
ONE THAT IT WAS A GOOD FIT.

585
00:17:20,103 --> 00:17:22,689
>> Reporter: SUSANN FIT RIGHT IN

586
00:17:22,689 --> 00:17:23,862
AT SCOTT'S 20th HIGH SCHOOL

587
00:17:23,862 --> 00:17:24,103
REUNION.

588
00:17:24,103 --> 00:17:25,205
>> SHE DANCED THE WHOLE TIME.

589
00:17:25,205 --> 00:17:26,758
THEY WERE LOVELY TOGETHER.

590
00:17:26,758 --> 00:17:29,137
HE JUST SEEMED REALLY HAPPY.

591
00:17:29,137 --> 00:17:30,517
>> Reporter: THE COUPLE MARRIED

592
00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:32,896
AND WELCOMED TWINS THROUGH IVF,

593
00:17:32,896 --> 00:17:36,241
ADDING TO DR. SILLS TWO OLDER

594
00:17:36,241 --> 00:17:37,655
KIDS.

595
00:17:37,655 --> 00:17:39,103
AND EVENTUALLY SUSANN'S BUSINESS

596
00:17:39,103 --> 00:17:40,793
ACUMEN WOULD LEAD THEM TO START

597
00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:44,310
THEIR OWN IVF PRACTICE IN APRIL,

598
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:45,206
2015.

599
00:17:45,206 --> 00:17:47,103
>> SHE STARTED THE BUSINESS.

600
00:17:47,103 --> 00:17:49,827
SHE BUILT IT.

601
00:17:49,827 --> 00:17:50,862
SUSANN PRETTY MUCH RAN

602
00:17:50,862 --> 00:17:52,103
EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF

603
00:17:52,103 --> 00:17:54,137
ACTUALLY DOING THE PROCEDURES.

604
00:17:54,137 --> 00:17:55,896
>> Reporter: THE PRACTICE SOON

605
00:17:55,896 --> 00:17:57,000
TOOK OFF.

606
00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,931
>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE DR. SCOTT

607
00:17:58,931 --> 00:18:02,310
SILLS HERE, AN OBGYN WHO IS ALSO

608
00:18:02,310 --> 00:18:03,896
A FERTILITY SPECIALIST.

609
00:18:03,896 --> 00:18:05,137
>> HE WAS OFTEN FEATURED ON THE

610
00:18:05,137 --> 00:18:07,275
TV PROGRAM, THE DOCTORS, WHICH

611
00:18:07,275 --> 00:18:08,551
WAS DISTRIBUTED BY CBS.

612
00:18:08,551 --> 00:18:10,724
>> WE DECIDED TO PROVIDE YOU

613
00:18:10,724 --> 00:18:14,310
THAT REMOVAL SURGERY AT NO COST.

614
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:19,413
>> HE WAS IN MANY EYES A SAINT.

615
00:18:19,413 --> 00:18:20,413
HE WAS LOVED BY HIS PATIENTS.

616
00:18:20,413 --> 00:18:21,862
>> Reporter: DR. JULIO NOVOA IS

617
00:18:21,862 --> 00:18:27,034
AN OBGYN WHO CO-AUTHORED A BOOK

618
00:18:27,034 --> 00:18:28,586
WITH DR. SILLS.

619
00:18:28,586 --> 00:18:29,586
>> THEY WERE A TEAM.

620
00:18:29,586 --> 00:18:31,103
NOT JUST MARRIED BUT A TEAM.

621
00:18:31,103 --> 00:18:33,448
AND WORKING WELL TOGETHER.

622
00:18:33,448 --> 00:18:35,103
>> Reporter: BUT ABOUT A MONTH

623
00:18:35,103 --> 00:18:37,482
BEFORE HER DEATH, RICK LEADS,

624
00:18:37,482 --> 00:18:39,000
ANOTHER OF SUSANN'S FRIENDS SAYS

625
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,275
SHE LEFT HIM A TROUBLING

626
00:18:41,275 --> 00:18:41,517
MESSAGE.

627
00:18:41,517 --> 00:18:44,000
>> SHE SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS

628
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,448
WHISPERING.

629
00:18:46,448 --> 00:18:48,551
IT WAS SO DIFFERENT FROM THE

630
00:18:48,551 --> 00:18:50,241
HAPPY, JOVIAL, EXCITED VOICE

631
00:18:50,241 --> 00:18:51,379
MAILS I GOT BEFORE.

632
00:18:51,379 --> 00:18:54,689
THIS ONE WAS DEFINITELY THINGS

633
00:18:54,689 --> 00:18:55,206
WEREN'T GOOD.

634
00:18:55,206 --> 00:18:56,310
>> Reporter: WHEN THEY SPOKE,

635
00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:58,448
RICK SAYS IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE

636
00:18:58,448 --> 00:18:59,793
WAS TENSION OVER A PHOTO.

637
00:18:59,793 --> 00:19:02,586
>> SHE SAID IT WAS A TOPLESS

638
00:19:02,586 --> 00:19:06,206
PHOTO OF HER THAT HAD APPEARED

639
00:19:06,206 --> 00:19:06,896
ON A BLOG.

640
00:19:06,896 --> 00:19:13,965
THIS WAS SOME DISCUSSION SHE

641
00:19:13,965 --> 00:19:22,241
♪

642
00:19:22,241 --> 00:19:24,241
>>> WHEN NEWS OF SUSANN'S DEATH

643
00:19:24,241 --> 00:19:26,344
REACHED HER FRIENDS, THEY WERE

644
00:19:26,344 --> 00:19:26,586
STUNNED.

645
00:19:26,586 --> 00:19:29,310
>> IT WAS DEVASTATING.

646
00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:30,586
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

647
00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:32,206
IT DIDN'T SEEM PLAUSIBLE TO ME

648
00:19:32,206 --> 00:19:33,827
THAT SHE JUST FELL DOWN THE

649
00:19:33,827 --> 00:19:37,000
STAIRS WITH A MIGRAINE HEADACHE.

650
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000
>> Reporter: IT DIDN'T SOUND

651
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,896
LIKE THE VIBRANT SUSANN THEY

652
00:19:40,896 --> 00:19:41,172
KNEW.

653
00:19:41,172 --> 00:19:43,344
DR. SILLS' FRIENDS SAY THEY WERE

654
00:19:43,344 --> 00:19:45,000
EQUALLY PERPLEXED.

655
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,206
>> SCOTT WOULD NOT DISCUSS

656
00:19:47,206 --> 00:19:47,931
ANYTHING WITH US.

657
00:19:47,931 --> 00:19:50,068
>> HE QUICKLY CHANGED THE

658
00:19:50,068 --> 00:19:50,448
SUBJECT.

659
00:19:50,448 --> 00:19:52,931
WE NEVER SPOKE AGAIN.

660
00:19:52,931 --> 00:19:56,206
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TRAGEDIES

661
00:19:56,206 --> 00:19:56,724
AFFECT PEOPLE.

662
00:19:56,724 --> 00:19:58,379
>> WHAT WERE YOUR IMPRESSIONS OF

663
00:19:58,379 --> 00:20:01,344
SCOTT SILLS THROUGHOUT THE

664
00:20:01,344 --> 00:20:01,689
INVESTIGATION?

665
00:20:01,689 --> 00:20:03,137
>> I WOULD DESCRIBE HIM AS

666
00:20:03,137 --> 00:20:03,448
EMOTIONLESS.

667
00:20:03,448 --> 00:20:05,241
HE NEVER ACTED AS THOUGH SUSANN

668
00:20:05,241 --> 00:20:06,827
WAS EVEN HIS WIFE.

669
00:20:06,827 --> 00:20:09,000
HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT A GOOD

670
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,655
MANAGER SHE WAS AND HOW SHE KEPT

671
00:20:10,655 --> 00:20:12,448
THEIR BUSINESS FLOWING.

672
00:20:12,448 --> 00:20:13,827
BUT HE NEVER ONCE MENTIONED THAT

673
00:20:13,827 --> 00:20:15,965
SHE WAS A GOOD MOTHER OR THAT HE

674
00:20:15,965 --> 00:20:16,655
LOVED HER.

675
00:20:16,655 --> 00:20:17,862
>> Reporter: ALL VERY BUSINESS

676
00:20:17,862 --> 00:20:18,241
LIKE?

677
00:20:18,241 --> 00:20:19,000
>> YEAH.

678
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,793
>> Reporter: IN FACT, THE DAY

679
00:20:20,793 --> 00:20:22,655
AFTER SUSANN'S DEATH, THE DOCTOR

680
00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,206
HAD GONE TO WORK.

681
00:20:25,206 --> 00:20:27,655
>> I WAS SHOCKED.

682
00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:29,241
WHO GOES TO THE OFFICE THE NEXT

683
00:20:29,241 --> 00:20:33,275
MORNING WHEN YOUR WIFE DIED?

684
00:20:33,275 --> 00:20:33,965
>> Reporter: JOANIE RICKER'S

685
00:20:33,965 --> 00:20:35,724
DAUGHTER WAS A NURSE AT THE

686
00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:38,275
SILLS' IVF CLINIC AND HAD CALLED

687
00:20:38,275 --> 00:20:40,137
HER IN A PANIC.

688
00:20:40,137 --> 00:20:41,620
>> SHE SAID YOUR PATIENTS ARE IN

689
00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:43,206
CYCLE AND THEY HAVE TO BE

690
00:20:43,206 --> 00:20:43,482
TREATED.

691
00:20:43,482 --> 00:20:44,896
>> Reporter: JOANIE VOLUNTEERED

692
00:20:44,896 --> 00:20:46,517
TO HELP MANAGE THE OFFICE,

693
00:20:46,517 --> 00:20:48,000
SOMETHING SUSANN DID AND ENDED

694
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,620
UP WORKING THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

695
00:20:51,620 --> 00:20:53,482
DID DR. SILLS TALK ABOUT HIS

696
00:20:53,482 --> 00:20:54,724
WIFE?

697
00:20:54,724 --> 00:20:55,448
>> OH, NEVER.

698
00:20:55,448 --> 00:20:57,551
>> DID HE EVER SAY HOW SHE DIED?

699
00:20:57,551 --> 00:20:59,241
>> IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED.

700
00:20:59,241 --> 00:21:01,551
>> Reporter: PRETTY SOON, SHE

701
00:21:01,551 --> 00:21:03,137
SAYS, THE DOCTOR STARTED

702
00:21:03,137 --> 00:21:04,000
CHANGING HIS APPEARANCE.

703
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,379
>> HE STARTED TO DRESS LIKE A

704
00:21:05,379 --> 00:21:06,206
MOVIE STAR.

705
00:21:06,206 --> 00:21:09,655
I MEAN, HE WAS VERY SIMPLE

706
00:21:09,655 --> 00:21:09,896
BEFORE.

707
00:21:09,896 --> 00:21:11,517
>> Reporter: AND SHE SAYS, THE

708
00:21:11,517 --> 00:21:12,965
ONCE BALDING DOCTOR NOW HAD A

709
00:21:12,965 --> 00:21:14,655
FULL HEAD OF HAIR.

710
00:21:14,655 --> 00:21:19,620
>> WE DEFINITELY NOTICED NEW

711
00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:19,827
HAIR.

712
00:21:19,827 --> 00:21:21,103
>> Reporter: THEY ALSO NOTICED

713
00:21:21,103 --> 00:21:24,379
DR. SILLS' FLASHIER ONLINE

714
00:21:24,379 --> 00:21:24,655
PERSONA.

715
00:21:24,655 --> 00:21:26,413
>> I SAID TO ONE OF MY FRIENDS,

716
00:21:26,413 --> 00:21:28,379
NOW IS SILLS A DOCTOR OR A

717
00:21:28,379 --> 00:21:28,655
MODEL?

718
00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:30,379
I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW ANY

719
00:21:30,379 --> 00:21:32,862
DOCTORS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT ARE

720
00:21:32,862 --> 00:21:37,758
TAKING SELFIES IN THE GYM IN

721
00:21:37,758 --> 00:21:41,000
THEIR BLAZERS AND SUNGLASSES AND

722
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,275
PORSCHES.

723
00:21:41,275 --> 00:21:42,000
IT WAS A LITTLE MUCH.

724
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,206
>> ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE STARTED

725
00:21:44,206 --> 00:21:45,655
TO BE ANOTHER WOMAN IN PHOTOS

726
00:21:45,655 --> 00:21:48,344
AND HE WAS OUT ON DATES AND THEY

727
00:21:48,344 --> 00:21:50,896
WERE GOING AROUND TOWN.

728
00:21:50,896 --> 00:21:52,655
>> Reporter: THE BEHAVIOR RAISED

729
00:21:52,655 --> 00:21:54,000
EYEBROWS, BUT IT WAS HARDLY

730
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,103
EVIDENCE.

731
00:21:55,103 --> 00:21:58,034
THEN, IN NOVEMBER 2017, A YEAR

732
00:21:58,034 --> 00:21:59,620
AFTER SUSANN'S DEATH, THERE WAS

733
00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:02,137
FINALLY NEWS FROM THE CORONER'S

734
00:22:02,137 --> 00:22:02,586
OFFICE.

735
00:22:02,586 --> 00:22:04,448
SUSANN'S CAUSE OF DEATH WAS

736
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,793
CITED AS LIGATURE STRANGULATION.

737
00:22:06,793 --> 00:22:11,517
AND THE MANNER A HOMICIDE.

738
00:22:11,517 --> 00:22:11,793
♪

739
00:22:11,793 --> 00:22:14,379
DR. SILLS WAS NOW THE PRIME

740
00:22:14,379 --> 00:22:14,862
SUSPECT.

741
00:22:14,862 --> 00:22:16,896
DNA RESULTS ON THE BLOOD IN MARY

742
00:22:16,896 --> 00:22:18,172
KATHERINE'S ROOM SHOWED A

743
00:22:18,172 --> 00:22:22,034
MIXTURE OF HIS AND SUSANN'S DNA.

744
00:22:22,034 --> 00:22:23,379
>> THEY WERE BOTH THERE.

745
00:22:23,379 --> 00:22:24,103
>> THERE WAS A FIGHT?

746
00:22:24,103 --> 00:22:26,275
>> THERE WAS A FIGHT AND HE

747
00:22:26,275 --> 00:22:28,724
KILLED HIS WIFE.

748
00:22:28,724 --> 00:22:29,862
>> Reporter: ON AUGUST 8th,

749
00:22:29,862 --> 00:22:31,896
2018, NEARLY TWO YEARS AFTER

750
00:22:31,896 --> 00:22:33,862
SUSANN'S DEATH, DETECTIVES

751
00:22:33,862 --> 00:22:35,172
HOLLOWAY AND HATCH MADE A

752
00:22:35,172 --> 00:22:39,275
SURPRISE HOUSE CALL AT THE

753
00:22:39,275 --> 00:22:39,965
DOCTOR'S HOME.

754
00:22:39,965 --> 00:22:42,103
DID YOU ASK DR. SILLS AT THIS

755
00:22:42,103 --> 00:22:43,310
POINT, JUST FLAT OUT, DID YOU

756
00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:44,862
KILL YOUR WIFE?

757
00:22:44,862 --> 00:22:45,275
>> YES.

758
00:22:45,275 --> 00:22:47,448
AND STARTED STRESSING OUT AND

759
00:22:47,448 --> 00:22:48,206
STARTED SWEATING.

760
00:22:48,206 --> 00:22:51,482
HE BECAME MORE DEFENSIVE.

761
00:22:51,482 --> 00:22:52,137
>> Reporter: THEY SAY THE DOCTOR

762
00:22:52,137 --> 00:22:53,344
DENIED KILLING HIS WIFE AND HE

763
00:22:53,344 --> 00:22:55,551
NOW OFFERED AN EXPLANATION FOR

764
00:22:55,551 --> 00:22:57,068
HIS BLOOD IN MARY KATHERINE'S

765
00:22:57,068 --> 00:22:57,344
ROOM.

766
00:22:57,344 --> 00:22:59,241
HE SAID HE HAD INJURED HIMSELF

767
00:22:59,241 --> 00:23:02,000
REPLACING A WINDOW SCREEN.

768
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,206
WOULDN'T MARY KATHERINE HAVE

769
00:23:03,206 --> 00:23:04,931
SEEN THE BLOOD THAT HE LEFT FROM

770
00:23:04,931 --> 00:23:06,448
REPLACING THE SCREEN?

771
00:23:06,448 --> 00:23:07,206
>> FOR SURE.

772
00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:09,827
>> AND SHE DIDN'T MENTION IT?

773
00:23:09,827 --> 00:23:10,517
>> NOPE.

774
00:23:10,517 --> 00:23:10,724
♪

775
00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:11,517
>>Reporter: DESPITE THE DEATH

776
00:23:11,517 --> 00:23:16,034
BEING RULED A HOMICIDE,

777
00:23:16,034 --> 00:23:16,689
DETECTIVES SAID THEY STILL HAD

778
00:23:16,689 --> 00:23:17,965
MORE INVESTIGATING TO DO, LIKE

779
00:23:17,965 --> 00:23:19,000
FINDING A MOTIVE.

780
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,448
A SEARCH OF SUSANN'S PHONE

781
00:23:20,448 --> 00:23:23,034
PROVIDED SOME CLUES.

782
00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:25,310
TEXT MESSAGES HINTED AT PROBLEMS

783
00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:26,448
IN THE MARRIAGE.

784
00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:28,517
>> THERE WAS ONE IN PARTICULAR

785
00:23:28,517 --> 00:23:31,137
WHERE SHE HAD SOME PRETTY STRONG

786
00:23:31,137 --> 00:23:32,344
WORDS TOWARDS SCOTT.

787
00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:33,655
>> Reporter: IN TEXTS SENT IN

788
00:23:33,655 --> 00:23:35,172
LATE AUGUST, LESS THAN THREE

789
00:23:35,172 --> 00:23:37,689
MONTHS BEFORE HER DEATH, SUSANN

790
00:23:37,689 --> 00:23:39,344
WROTE, I AM TRAPPED.

791
00:23:39,344 --> 00:23:41,793
YOU ARE KILLING ME.

792
00:23:41,793 --> 00:23:43,448
I JUST WANT OUT.

793
00:23:43,448 --> 00:23:45,896
AND WE JUST AREN'T RIGHT FOR

794
00:23:45,896 --> 00:23:47,517
EACH OTHER.

795
00:23:47,517 --> 00:23:48,862
AND ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE HER

796
00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:51,931
DEATH, SUSANN HAD CONFIDED IN

797
00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:53,482
RICK LEADS.

798
00:23:53,482 --> 00:23:57,551
>> SHE AND SCOTT WERE IN A

799
00:23:57,551 --> 00:23:58,206
REALLY ROCKY PLACE.

800
00:23:58,206 --> 00:23:59,724
AND SHE WAS THINKING ABOUT

801
00:23:59,724 --> 00:24:00,310
LEAVING HIM.

802
00:24:00,310 --> 00:24:01,172
>> Reporter: HE SAID SUSANN WAS

803
00:24:01,172 --> 00:24:04,000
ALSO UPSET ABOUT A PHOTO SHE

804
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000
POSTED ONLINE.

805
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
>> WHATEVER WAS GOING ON BETWEEN

806
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000
HER AND SCOTT, AND THIS PICTURE

807
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,655
WAS JUST A PIVOTAL POINT FOR

808
00:24:12,655 --> 00:24:13,000
HER.

809
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,758
>> Reporter: SUSANN HAD POSTED A

810
00:24:14,758 --> 00:24:16,379
TOPLESS PHOTO AFTER MAKING A BET

811
00:24:16,379 --> 00:24:19,793
IN A POLICE KAL CHAT ROOM CALLED

812
00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:20,724
PAT TRICK.NET.

813
00:24:20,724 --> 00:24:22,103
>> SUSANN APPARENTLY WAS ONE OF

814
00:24:22,103 --> 00:24:23,482
THE FEW WOMEN WHO WAS INVOLVED

815
00:24:23,482 --> 00:24:24,965
IN THIS FORUM.

816
00:24:24,965 --> 00:24:28,034
SHE KIND OF THREW OUT THAT IF

817
00:24:28,034 --> 00:24:28,620
DONALD TRUMP WON THE

818
00:24:28,620 --> 00:24:29,931
PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION THAT SHE

819
00:24:29,931 --> 00:24:32,137
WOULD POST A PICTURE OF HER BARE

820
00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:32,413
BREASTS.

821
00:24:32,413 --> 00:24:33,344
>> Reporter: AND ON THE DAY OF

822
00:24:33,344 --> 00:24:35,344
HER DEATH, DETECTIVES HAD FOUND

823
00:24:35,344 --> 00:24:37,793
A PRINT-OUT IN DR. SILL'S HOME

824
00:24:37,793 --> 00:24:40,620
OFFICE OF AN EXCHANGE BETWEEN

825
00:24:40,620 --> 00:24:43,413
SUSANN AND ANOTHER PATRICK.NET

826
00:24:43,413 --> 00:24:45,241
MEMBER FROM AUGUST 30th, 2016,

827
00:24:45,241 --> 00:24:46,000
DISCUSSING THE PHOTO.

828
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,275
THE MAN, WHO WENT BY TEN POUND

829
00:24:49,275 --> 00:24:50,551
BASS, WROTE, ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY

830
00:24:50,551 --> 00:24:54,241
IS YOU MUST HAVE A SUPER COOL

831
00:24:54,241 --> 00:24:54,827
HUSBAND.

832
00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:58,724
SUSANN, AKA TURTLE DOVE,

833
00:24:58,724 --> 00:25:00,206
REPLIED, HE'S EXHAUSTIVE

834
00:25:00,206 --> 00:25:00,551
ACTUALLY.

835
00:25:00,551 --> 00:25:03,172
IT ISN'T EASY BEING MARRIED TO A

836
00:25:03,172 --> 00:25:05,827
WOMAN WHO IS PARTIALLY NAKED AND

837
00:25:05,827 --> 00:25:07,206
POSING ALLURINGLY ALL THE TIME.

838
00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:09,275
DR. SILLS DENIED HE PRINTED THAT

839
00:25:09,275 --> 00:25:09,482
CHAT.

840
00:25:09,482 --> 00:25:12,206
BUT WHEN INVESTIGATORS LATER

841
00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:13,931
SEARCHED HIS PHONE, THEY FOUND A

842
00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:15,517
PHOTO OF THE SAME EXCHANGE.

843
00:25:15,517 --> 00:25:16,965
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THIS COULD

844
00:25:16,965 --> 00:25:18,689
LEAD TO MOTIVE?

845
00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:19,586
>> YES.

846
00:25:19,586 --> 00:25:20,310
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S

847
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:22,965
BUILDING UP IN HIM, SOME KIND OF

848
00:25:22,965 --> 00:25:25,068
ANGER OR JEALOUSY ABOUT WHAT HIS

849
00:25:25,068 --> 00:25:26,448
WIFE IS DOING ONLINE WITHOUT

850
00:25:26,448 --> 00:25:26,655
HIM.

851
00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:28,793
>> ENOUGH TO KILL HER?

852
00:25:28,793 --> 00:25:29,586
>> UH-HUH.

853
00:25:29,586 --> 00:25:30,655
>> Reporter: DETECTIVES ALSO

854
00:25:30,655 --> 00:25:32,448
LEARNED THAT DR. SILLS HAD TRIED

855
00:25:32,448 --> 00:25:35,034
TO COLLECT ON A $250,000 LIFE

856
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:36,965
INSURANCE POLICY ON SUSANN.

857
00:25:36,965 --> 00:25:38,931
BUT HE CLAIMED THE INSURANCE

858
00:25:38,931 --> 00:25:41,448
COMPANY HAD CALLED HIM.

859
00:25:41,448 --> 00:25:42,724
>> HE WASN'T ABLE TO COLLECT

860
00:25:42,724 --> 00:25:44,724
BECAUSE THE DEATH CERTIFICATE

861
00:25:44,724 --> 00:25:46,379
WAS RULED AS A HOMICIDE.

862
00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:47,241
>> DO YOU THINK SCOTT SILLS

863
00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:48,896
THOUGHT HE HAD GOTTEN AWAY WITH

864
00:25:48,896 --> 00:25:49,034
IT?

865
00:25:49,034 --> 00:25:49,896
>> I THINK SO.

866
00:25:49,896 --> 00:25:51,758
>> EVERYDAY HE WENT BY HE FELT A

867
00:25:51,758 --> 00:25:53,275
LITTLE MORE AT EASE, I THINK.

868
00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:55,620
>> Reporter: ON APRIL 25th,

869
00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:58,551
2019, NEARLY 2.5 YEARS AFTER

870
00:25:58,551 --> 00:26:01,000
SUSANN'S DEATH, DR. SILLS WAS

871
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,689
ARRESTED FOR HER ALLEGED MURDER,

872
00:26:02,689 --> 00:26:03,724
ON HER WAY TO SURGERY.

873
00:26:03,724 --> 00:26:06,655
HE QUICKLY POSTED A MILLION

874
00:26:06,655 --> 00:26:08,000
DOLLAR BOND, BUT INVESTIGATORS

875
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,482
WERE ABOUT TO GET AN UNEXPECTED

876
00:26:09,482 --> 00:26:11,275
TIP FROM A WOMAN WHO SAID SHE

877
00:26:11,275 --> 00:26:13,724
HAD MET DR. SILLS WHILE SUSANN

878
00:26:13,724 --> 00:26:16,793
WAS STILL ALIVE.

879
00:26:16,793 --> 00:26:18,517
>> THEY MET THROUGH FACEBOOK.

880
00:26:18,517 --> 00:26:22,000
HE WAS INFATUATED WITH HER.

881
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,344
>> Reporter: SHE SHARED AN EMAIL

882
00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:25,034
DR. SILLS SENT HER ABOUT TWO

883
00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:29,344
WEEKS AFTER SUSANN'S DEATH.

884
00:26:29,344 --> 00:26:31,413
>> YES.

885
00:26:31,413 --> 00:26:32,275
>> SO IT'S IN FRENCH?

886
00:26:32,275 --> 00:26:33,275
THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST

887
00:26:33,275 --> 00:26:35,068
IMPORTANT MANUSCRIPT I HAVE EVER

888
00:26:35,068 --> 00:26:35,310
WRITTEN.

889
00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:36,862
I'M ASKING YOU TO SERIOUSLY

890
00:26:36,862 --> 00:26:40,172
RETHINK OUR SUSPENDED BUT ONCE

891
00:26:40,172 --> 00:26:41,724
INTENSE RELATIONSHIP.

892
00:26:41,724 --> 00:26:43,241
WHEN YOU FIRST READ THAT EMAIL,

893
00:26:43,241 --> 00:26:45,172
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION?

894
00:26:45,172 --> 00:26:46,206
>> I THOUGHT, I WAS SHOCKED.

895
00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:48,068
THIS IS A MOTIVE.

896
00:26:48,068 --> 00:26:49,172
>> SO COULD DR. SILLS HAVE

897
00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:50,448
KILLED HIS WIFE TO GET HER OUT

898
00:26:50,448 --> 00:26:51,034
OF THE WAY?

899
00:26:51,034 --> 00:26:55,137
>> OH, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT AT

900
00:26:55,137 --> 00:26:55,551
ALL.

901
00:26:55,551 --> 00:26:57,655
>> Reporter: DR. SILLS' DEFENSE

902
00:26:57,655 --> 00:26:59,448
ATTORNEY JACK EARLY DENIES THAT

903
00:26:59,448 --> 00:27:00,310
THERE WAS A ROMANTIC

904
00:27:00,310 --> 00:27:02,379
RELATIONSHIP AND HE SAYS THAT

905
00:27:02,379 --> 00:27:04,310
EMAIL WAS MERELY A DEVASTATED

906
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:05,448
FATHER'S DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO

907
00:27:05,448 --> 00:27:07,068
FIND A NEW MOTHER FOR HIS

908
00:27:07,068 --> 00:27:07,344
CHILDREN.

909
00:27:07,344 --> 00:27:09,034
DID YOU FEEL IN YOUR GUT THAT

910
00:27:09,034 --> 00:27:09,931
YOU COULD WIN THIS CASE?

911
00:27:09,931 --> 00:27:24,344
>>

912
00:27:24,344 --> 00:27:24,620
♪

913
00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:27,310
>>> IN NOVEMBER, 2023, JUST OVER

914
00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:29,241
SEVEN YEARS AFTER SUSANNSILLS'S

915
00:27:29,241 --> 00:27:31,034
DEATH, SCOTT SILLS NOW STRIPPED

916
00:27:31,034 --> 00:27:32,827
OF HIS MEDICAL LICENSE WENT ON

917
00:27:32,827 --> 00:27:34,896
TRIAL FOR HER MURDER.

918
00:27:34,896 --> 00:27:36,137
THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT

919
00:27:36,137 --> 00:27:37,241
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DECLINED OUR

920
00:27:37,241 --> 00:27:39,172
REQUEST FOR AN INTERVIEW, BUT

921
00:27:39,172 --> 00:27:41,482
CAMERAS WERE ALLOWED IN COURT

922
00:27:41,482 --> 00:27:43,172
FOR PORTIONS OF THE TRIAL WHERE

923
00:27:43,172 --> 00:27:44,724
SENIOR DEPUTY D.A. JENNIFER

924
00:27:44,724 --> 00:27:49,000
WALKER LAID OUT HER CASE TO THE

925
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,172
JURY.

926
00:27:49,172 --> 00:27:54,931
>> NOVEMBER 13th OF 2016, THIS

927
00:27:54,931 --> 00:27:57,931
MAN KILLED HIS WIFE AND HID IT.

928
00:27:57,931 --> 00:27:59,172
>> Reporter: WALKER ARGUED THAT

929
00:27:59,172 --> 00:28:01,655
SCOTT SILLS BEAT AND THEN

930
00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:03,310
STRANGLED SUSANN TO DEATH BEFORE

931
00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:05,310
STAGING THE SCENE TO MAKE IT

932
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:06,896
LOOK LIKE SHE'D FALLEN DOWN THE

933
00:28:06,896 --> 00:28:07,103
STAIRS.

934
00:28:07,103 --> 00:28:09,827
>> THIS IS A MURDER, NOT AN

935
00:28:09,827 --> 00:28:10,068
ACCIDENT.

936
00:28:10,068 --> 00:28:11,103
>> Reporter: THE PROSECUTION'S

937
00:28:11,103 --> 00:28:14,724
CASE RELIED HEAVILY ON SUSANN'S

938
00:28:14,724 --> 00:28:14,965
AUTOPSY.

939
00:28:14,965 --> 00:28:17,000
BUT SCOTT SILLS' DEFENSE

940
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,206
ATTORNEY, JACK EARLY, CAME TO %

941
00:28:18,206 --> 00:28:20,000
COURT ARMED WITH A UNIQUE

942
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,620
THEORY.

943
00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:22,965
HE SUGGESTED THAT SUSANN FELL,

944
00:28:22,965 --> 00:28:25,413
EITHER GOING UP OR DOWN THE

945
00:28:25,413 --> 00:28:28,000
STAIRS AND THAT ONE OR BOTH OF

946
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,137
THE FAMILY DOGS THEN TUGGED ON

947
00:28:30,137 --> 00:28:31,793
THE SCARF THAT WAS WRAPPED

948
00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:32,793
AROUND HER NECK.

949
00:28:32,793 --> 00:28:34,827
DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THE

950
00:28:34,827 --> 00:28:36,000
DOGS PULLED HARD ENOUGH TO

951
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,827
STRANGLE HER TO DEATH?

952
00:28:38,827 --> 00:28:39,689
>> NO.

953
00:28:39,689 --> 00:28:40,034
NO.

954
00:28:40,034 --> 00:28:41,482
THAT WAS NOT THE MAIN THEORY

955
00:28:41,482 --> 00:28:44,172
THAT THE DOGS ACTUALLY STRANGLED

956
00:28:44,172 --> 00:28:45,689
HER TO DEATH.

957
00:28:45,689 --> 00:28:47,137
>> Reporter: INSTEAD, EARLY

958
00:28:47,137 --> 00:28:49,724
FOCUSSED ON ANOTHER INJURY

959
00:28:49,724 --> 00:28:51,896
IDENTIFIED IN SUSANN'S AUTOPSY,

960
00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:55,620
THAT FRACTURED C3 VERTEBRA.

961
00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:56,517
HE SAYS THAT INJURY IS

962
00:28:56,517 --> 00:28:58,000
CONSISTENT WITH A FALL AND THAT

963
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,137
IT WOULD HAVE LEFT SUSANN'S

964
00:29:00,137 --> 00:29:00,517
INCAPACITATED.

965
00:29:00,517 --> 00:29:01,724
>> LET'S ASSUME THAT SOMEONE

966
00:29:01,724 --> 00:29:03,448
TRIPS AND FALLS AND FRACTURED

967
00:29:03,448 --> 00:29:04,275
THEIR C3.

968
00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:05,965
THEIR BREATHING IS COMPROMISED.

969
00:29:05,965 --> 00:29:07,413
IF THEY'RE THEN CHOKED, IT

970
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:08,724
DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO KILL THEM.

971
00:29:08,724 --> 00:29:09,620
>> Reporter: THE DEFENSE HAD THE

972
00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:11,551
SCARF TESTED FOR DOG DNA.

973
00:29:11,551 --> 00:29:14,000
IT CAME BACK POSITIVE.

974
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,344
AND THERE WAS TESTIMONY THAT THE

975
00:29:15,344 --> 00:29:17,275
DOGS WERE KNOWN TO PLAY TUG OF

976
00:29:17,275 --> 00:29:20,241
WAR, AS SEEN IN THIS VIDEO.

977
00:29:20,241 --> 00:29:23,137
AND WHEN SUSANN AND SCOTT'S NOW

978
00:29:23,137 --> 00:29:23,758
19-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER MARY

979
00:29:23,758 --> 00:29:26,758
KATHERINE TOOK THE STAND FOR THE

980
00:29:26,758 --> 00:29:27,655
PROSECUTION, HER TESTIMONY

981
00:29:27,655 --> 00:29:31,000
SUPPORTED THE DEFENSE'S THEORY.

982
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,793
INVESTIGATOR DAVE HOLLOWAY WAS

983
00:29:31,793 --> 00:29:33,896
AT THE TRIAL.

984
00:29:33,896 --> 00:29:34,931
>> MARY KATHERINE TESTIFIED THAT

985
00:29:34,931 --> 00:29:37,344
SHE SAW THE DOGS PULLING AT THE

986
00:29:37,344 --> 00:29:38,344
SCARF AROUND HER NECK.

987
00:29:38,344 --> 00:29:41,689
AND NONE OF THAT CAME UP DURING

988
00:29:41,689 --> 00:29:42,965
THE DAY WE INTERVIEWED HER THE

989
00:29:42,965 --> 00:29:43,344
FIRST TIME.

990
00:29:43,344 --> 00:29:45,275
>> HOW DID THAT STRIKE YOU?

991
00:29:45,275 --> 00:29:46,896
>> WELL, I KNOW THAT SHE WAS

992
00:29:46,896 --> 00:29:50,862
STILL CLOSE WITH HER FATHER.

993
00:29:50,862 --> 00:29:52,206
>> DO YOU THINK SHE'S TRYING TO

994
00:29:52,206 --> 00:29:52,896
PROTECT HER DAD?

995
00:29:52,896 --> 00:29:53,655
>> I WOULD SAY SO.

996
00:29:53,655 --> 00:29:54,862
>> EARLY DENIES THAT.

997
00:29:54,862 --> 00:29:56,758
HE SAYS THE REASON MARY

998
00:29:56,758 --> 00:29:57,482
KATHERINE DIDN'T TELL

999
00:29:57,482 --> 00:29:59,068
INVESTIGATORS IS SIMPLE.

1000
00:29:59,068 --> 00:30:00,275
>> IT WASN'T ASKED.

1001
00:30:00,275 --> 00:30:01,724
WHY WOULD SHE THINK THE DOGS

1002
00:30:01,724 --> 00:30:02,586
WERE IMPORTANT.

1003
00:30:02,586 --> 00:30:03,827
SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THAT

1004
00:30:03,827 --> 00:30:05,448
THERE'S ANY QUESTION OF BEING

1005
00:30:05,448 --> 00:30:05,793
CHOKED.

1006
00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:07,448
>> Reporter: HE SAYS SCOTT SILLS

1007
00:30:07,448 --> 00:30:09,413
DID TELL FIRST RESPONDERS.

1008
00:30:09,413 --> 00:30:12,482
AND HE ARGUED THAT SUSANN'S

1009
00:30:12,482 --> 00:30:14,034
TOXICOLOGY TESTS POINT TO AN

1010
00:30:14,034 --> 00:30:14,655
ACCIDENTAL FALL.

1011
00:30:14,655 --> 00:30:17,448
SHE HAD A MUSCLE RELAXANT AND

1012
00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:18,448
PAIN MEDICATION IN HER SYSTEM.

1013
00:30:18,448 --> 00:30:20,896
AND EARLY TOLD THE JURY THAT

1014
00:30:20,896 --> 00:30:23,551
SUSANN SUFFERED FROM A FAINTING

1015
00:30:23,551 --> 00:30:25,896
DISORDER AND THAT VERTIGO WOULD

1016
00:30:25,896 --> 00:30:28,206
ACCOMPANY HER MIGRAINES.

1017
00:30:28,206 --> 00:30:30,310
BUT THE PROSECUTION SAID THE

1018
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:31,827
DEFENSE'S THEORY DOESN'T MAKE

1019
00:30:31,827 --> 00:30:32,034
SENSE.

1020
00:30:32,034 --> 00:30:34,000
>> STRANGULATION IS A SILENT

1021
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,206
KILLER.

1022
00:30:34,206 --> 00:30:36,034
YOU KNOW WHAT ISN'T A SILENT

1023
00:30:36,034 --> 00:30:38,344
KILLER, FALLING DOWN MULTIPLE

1024
00:30:38,344 --> 00:30:38,586
STAIRS.

1025
00:30:38,586 --> 00:30:39,620
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE SHE BOUNCED

1026
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:41,724
HER HEAD, NECK, BACK, SHOULDERS,

1027
00:30:41,724 --> 00:30:44,344
INSIDE HER ARMS, LEGS AND FEET

1028
00:30:44,344 --> 00:30:46,000
MULTIPLE WAYS AGAINST

1029
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
APPROXIMATELY SIX STAIRS LIKE

1030
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,655
BEING IN A SOUNDPROOF PINBALL

1031
00:30:49,655 --> 00:30:49,896
MACHINE.

1032
00:30:49,896 --> 00:30:56,482
THEN WAS STRANGLED BY HER DOGS.

1033
00:30:56,482 --> 00:30:58,137
NOT REASONABLE.

1034
00:30:58,137 --> 00:30:58,724
>> Reporter: AND WHY WOULD

1035
00:30:58,724 --> 00:30:59,931
SUSANN HAVE A SCARF AROUND HER

1036
00:30:59,931 --> 00:31:01,827
NECK THAT EARLY IN THE MORNING

1037
00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:03,172
TO BEGIN WITH?

1038
00:31:03,172 --> 00:31:04,931
PROSECUTORS SUGGESTED THAT SCOTT

1039
00:31:04,931 --> 00:31:06,896
SILLS USED IT TO STRANGLE HER

1040
00:31:06,896 --> 00:31:07,827
AND LEFT IT AROUND HER NECK TO

1041
00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:08,758
COURT THE MARKS.

1042
00:31:08,758 --> 00:31:11,172
BUT EARLY TOLD THE JURY IT

1043
00:31:11,172 --> 00:31:14,586
WASN'T UNUSUAL FOR SUSANN TO

1044
00:31:14,586 --> 00:31:15,206
WEAR A SCARF, ESPECIALLY WHEN

1045
00:31:15,206 --> 00:31:15,965
SHE WASN'T FEELING WELL.

1046
00:31:15,965 --> 00:31:17,931
>> BECAUSE IF SHE GOT SICK, THAT

1047
00:31:17,931 --> 00:31:19,000
WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE WOULD

1048
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,586
WEAR A SCARF TO WIPE YOUR MOUTH

1049
00:31:22,586 --> 00:31:22,827
WITH.

1050
00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:24,068
>> Reporter: BUT THE PROSECUTION

1051
00:31:24,068 --> 00:31:26,724
ALSO POINTED OUT THAT SUSANN AND

1052
00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:28,344
SCOTT'S SON ERIC TOLD

1053
00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:29,275
INVESTIGATORS HE SAW HIS MOTHER

1054
00:31:29,275 --> 00:31:31,620
PUT THE DOGS AWAY IN THEIR CRATE

1055
00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:35,517
IN THE HOURS BEFORE SHE DIED.

1056
00:31:35,517 --> 00:31:37,000
>> ERIC SAID THAT HIS MOM PUT

1057
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,172
THE DOGS IN THE CRATE.

1058
00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,586
>> YES.

1059
00:31:39,586 --> 00:31:40,655
SOMETIMES DOGS WHEN THEY'RE

1060
00:31:40,655 --> 00:31:42,172
CRATE TRAINED WHEN THEY GO TO

1061
00:31:42,172 --> 00:31:44,275
BED WILL GO LAY IN THEIR CRATE,

1062
00:31:44,275 --> 00:31:45,689
EVEN WITH THE DOOR OPEN.

1063
00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:47,034
>> Reporter: THERE WAS ALSO NO

1064
00:31:47,034 --> 00:31:50,689
BLOOD ON THE STAIRS OR DAMAGE TO

1065
00:31:50,689 --> 00:31:50,931
THEM.

1066
00:31:50,931 --> 00:31:51,689
THERE ARE ALL THESE INJURIES

1067
00:31:51,689 --> 00:31:52,758
THAT YOU SAY COME FROM THE FALL

1068
00:31:52,758 --> 00:31:54,758
DOWN THE STAIRS, ALL OVER HER

1069
00:31:54,758 --> 00:31:56,068
BODY, BUT SHE LEAVES NO MARKS ON

1070
00:31:56,068 --> 00:31:56,793
THE STAIRS.

1071
00:31:56,793 --> 00:31:58,206
>> BUT THERE'S NO MARKS ANYWHERE

1072
00:31:58,206 --> 00:31:58,793
IN THE HOUSE.

1073
00:31:58,793 --> 00:31:59,862
>> Reporter: BUT THERE WAS THAT

1074
00:31:59,862 --> 00:32:03,000
BLOOD IN MARY KATHERINE'S

1075
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,241
BEDROOM.

1076
00:32:03,241 --> 00:32:05,103
IS AND THE PROSECUTION ARGUED IT

1077
00:32:05,103 --> 00:32:06,655
WAS EVIDENCE THAT A FIGHT

1078
00:32:06,655 --> 00:32:06,931
OCCURRED.

1079
00:32:06,931 --> 00:32:08,517
A FORENSIC SCIENTIST TESTIFIED

1080
00:32:08,517 --> 00:32:09,862
THAT THE STAINS ON THE NIGHT

1081
00:32:09,862 --> 00:32:11,310
STAND AND DRAPES WERE CONSISTENT

1082
00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:15,000
WITH SCOTT SILLS' DNA.

1083
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,620
EARLY DID ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HIS

1084
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:18,655
CLIENT'S BLOOD WAS IN THE ROOM,

1085
00:32:18,655 --> 00:32:19,517
BUT HE TOLD THE JURY ABOUT

1086
00:32:19,517 --> 00:32:20,620
SCOTT'S CLAIM THAT HE HURT

1087
00:32:20,620 --> 00:32:22,758
HIMSELF THERE ON AN EARLIER

1088
00:32:22,758 --> 00:32:23,103
DATE.

1089
00:32:23,103 --> 00:32:25,448
FROM SCOTT REPLACING A SCREEN?

1090
00:32:25,448 --> 00:32:27,448
>> FROM GETTING CUT ON A NAIL

1091
00:32:27,448 --> 00:32:28,655
THAT WAS ON THE BACK OF THE

1092
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:29,724
NIGHT STAND THAT WAS THERE.

1093
00:32:29,724 --> 00:32:30,758
>> Reporter: THAT FORENSIC

1094
00:32:30,758 --> 00:32:32,000
SCIENTIST, THOUGH, TESTIFIED

1095
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,379
THAT ONE OF THE STAINS ON THE

1096
00:32:33,379 --> 00:32:36,379
WALL WAS A MIXTURE OF DNA.

1097
00:32:36,379 --> 00:32:39,172
AND SCOTT AND SUSANN WERE LIKELY

1098
00:32:39,172 --> 00:32:39,724
CONTRIBUTORS.

1099
00:32:39,724 --> 00:32:41,862
EARLY SAYS THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT

1100
00:32:41,862 --> 00:32:42,517
WAS SUSANN'S BLOOD.

1101
00:32:42,517 --> 00:32:44,586
AND THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN HER

1102
00:32:44,586 --> 00:32:46,862
TOUCH DNA THAT WAS PICKED UP.

1103
00:32:46,862 --> 00:32:49,241
>> SUSANN HAD TOUCHED THAT AREA

1104
00:32:49,241 --> 00:32:50,379
BEFORE, AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

1105
00:32:50,379 --> 00:32:52,344
AND SHE LIVED THERE.

1106
00:32:52,344 --> 00:32:53,689
>> Reporter: BUT THE PROSECUTION

1107
00:32:53,689 --> 00:32:54,586
POINTED OUT THAT THERE WERE ALSO

1108
00:32:54,586 --> 00:32:56,758
CLUMPS OF SUSANN'S HAIR FOUND IN

1109
00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:57,965
MARY KATHERINE'S ROOM.

1110
00:32:57,965 --> 00:32:59,517
AND THERE WERE BLOODSTAINS ON

1111
00:32:59,517 --> 00:33:00,862
SUSANN'S CLOTHING THAT WERE

1112
00:33:00,862 --> 00:33:03,000
FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH

1113
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,931
SCOTT SILLS' DNA, TOO.

1114
00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:07,344
EARLY HAD A REBUTTAL TO IT ALL.

1115
00:33:07,344 --> 00:33:09,241
STARTING WITH THE HAIR.

1116
00:33:09,241 --> 00:33:11,241
>> SHE HAS HAIR EXTENSIONS.

1117
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,620
AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAIR

1118
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:13,655
EXTENSIONS CAUSE?

1119
00:33:13,655 --> 00:33:14,379
LOSS OF HAIR.

1120
00:33:14,379 --> 00:33:15,586
>> Reporter: AND THE BLOOD ON

1121
00:33:15,586 --> 00:33:16,724
THE CLOTHES?

1122
00:33:16,724 --> 00:33:19,206
>> YOU DON'T KNOW HOW OLD IT IS.

1123
00:33:19,206 --> 00:33:19,965
>> Reporter: THE JURY WAS ALSO

1124
00:33:19,965 --> 00:33:21,413
SHOWN PICTURES OF THOSE INJURIES

1125
00:33:21,413 --> 00:33:23,862
THAT WERE OBSERVED ON SCOTT.

1126
00:33:23,862 --> 00:33:24,965
REMEMBER HOW HE TOLD

1127
00:33:24,965 --> 00:33:25,724
INVESTIGATORS THAT HE HURT

1128
00:33:25,724 --> 00:33:27,862
HIMSELF WHILE WORKING ON HIS CAR

1129
00:33:27,862 --> 00:33:30,482
WITH HIS SON?

1130
00:33:30,482 --> 00:33:32,034
AND HOW, ACCORDING TO

1131
00:33:32,034 --> 00:33:33,068
INVESTIGATORS, ERIC SAID THAT

1132
00:33:33,068 --> 00:33:34,862
HIS FATHER DIDN'T GET INJURED?

1133
00:33:34,862 --> 00:33:36,482
WELL, WHEN ERIC TOOK THE STAND,

1134
00:33:36,482 --> 00:33:40,344
HIS TESTIMONY ALLOWED FOR THE

1135
00:33:40,344 --> 00:33:40,655
POSSIBILITY.

1136
00:33:40,655 --> 00:33:42,655
>> WHAT HE TESTIFIED IS I DIDN'T

1137
00:33:42,655 --> 00:33:44,862
STAY THERE THE WHOLE TIME HE

1138
00:33:44,862 --> 00:33:45,482
FIXED THE CAR.

1139
00:33:45,482 --> 00:33:46,965
>> DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A

1140
00:33:46,965 --> 00:33:47,965
DECEMBER CREPESY TO YOU?

1141
00:33:47,965 --> 00:33:50,068
>> WELL, IT'S NOT A DISCREPANCY.

1142
00:33:50,068 --> 00:33:51,344
NO ONE IS ASKING HIM THAT FULL

1143
00:33:51,344 --> 00:33:53,103
STORY AT THE AGE OF 12.

1144
00:33:53,103 --> 00:33:55,931
>> SO HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY SAY

1145
00:33:55,931 --> 00:33:58,310
AT AGE 12, DAD DIDN'T GET THE

1146
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:59,034
INJURY FROM THE CAR.

1147
00:33:59,034 --> 00:33:59,551
>> NO.

1148
00:33:59,551 --> 00:34:00,827
HE BASICALLY SAID I WASN'T THERE

1149
00:34:00,827 --> 00:34:02,344
WHEN I GOT THE INJURY.

1150
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:03,206
>> Reporter: WHILE ERIC SILLS

1151
00:34:03,206 --> 00:34:04,413
DID TESTIFY THAT A LOUD

1152
00:34:04,413 --> 00:34:05,413
DISCUSSION BETWEEN HIS PARENTS

1153
00:34:05,413 --> 00:34:07,482
HAD WOKEN HIM UP SHORTLY BEFORE

1154
00:34:07,482 --> 00:34:09,103
HIS MOTHER'S DEATH, THE DEFENSE

1155
00:34:09,103 --> 00:34:10,931
TOLD THE JURY THAT THERE WAS

1156
00:34:10,931 --> 00:34:12,000
NOTHING TO IT.

1157
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,896
AND THOSE TEXTS BETWEEN SCOTT

1158
00:34:13,896 --> 00:34:16,103
AND SUSANN IN THE MONTHS BEFORE

1159
00:34:16,103 --> 00:34:17,206
SUSANN'S DEATH?

1160
00:34:17,206 --> 00:34:19,965
>> IF YOU HAVE 40,000 TEXTS AND

1161
00:34:19,965 --> 00:34:22,034
THERE'S FIVE OF THEM WITH HARD

1162
00:34:22,034 --> 00:34:25,000
LANGUAGE IN IT, THAT'S A PERFECT

1163
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,275
MARRIAGE.

1164
00:34:25,275 --> 00:34:26,034
>> Reporter: THE JURY DIDN'T

1165
00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,413
HEAR ABOUT THE LIFE INSURANCE

1166
00:34:28,413 --> 00:34:28,688
POLICY.

1167
00:34:28,688 --> 00:34:30,551
THAT EMAIL SCOTT SENT TO ANOTHER

1168
00:34:30,551 --> 00:34:30,793
WOMAN.

1169
00:34:30,793 --> 00:34:32,275
OR HIS SOCIAL MEDIA PHOTOS IN

1170
00:34:32,275 --> 00:34:34,482
THE WAKE OF HIS WIFE'S DEATH.

1171
00:34:34,482 --> 00:34:37,206
BUT THEY WERE TOLD ABOUT THE

1172
00:34:37,206 --> 00:34:38,655
PATRICK.NET POSTS AND THE

1173
00:34:38,655 --> 00:34:40,447
PROSECUTION ARGUED THAT TOPLESS

1174
00:34:40,447 --> 00:34:42,757
PHOTO THAT SUSANN POSTED ON THE

1175
00:34:42,757 --> 00:34:44,620
SITE ENRAGED SCOTT.

1176
00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:46,793
>> IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL.

1177
00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:48,034
>> IT'S NOT STRIKING TO YOU THAT

1178
00:34:48,034 --> 00:34:49,757
HE HAD THIS PHOTO IN TWO PLACES

1179
00:34:49,757 --> 00:34:51,206
ON HIS PHONE AND THEN ON THE

1180
00:34:51,206 --> 00:34:51,447
PRINTER?

1181
00:34:51,447 --> 00:34:51,827
>> NO.

1182
00:34:51,827 --> 00:34:53,000
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW

1183
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,172
REALLY WHO PRINTED THIS STUFF

1184
00:34:55,172 --> 00:34:55,344
UP.

1185
00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:56,241
>> Reporter: EARLY MAINTAINS

1186
00:34:56,241 --> 00:34:59,000
THERE IS NO MOTIVE FOR MURDER.

1187
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,689
>> THERE WAS NEVER ANY PHYSICAL

1188
00:35:02,689 --> 00:35:03,551
VIOLENCE.

1189
00:35:03,551 --> 00:35:05,827
THEIR WORKING AND MARRIAGE

1190
00:35:05,827 --> 00:35:06,827
RELATIONSHIP, EVERYBODY LOOKED

1191
00:35:06,827 --> 00:35:08,206
AT IT AS LOVING.

1192
00:35:08,206 --> 00:35:09,000
>> Reporter: SCOTT SILLS CHOSE

1193
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,068
NOT TO TAKE THE STAND.

1194
00:35:10,068 --> 00:35:11,448
THE TRIAL SPANNED THREE WEEKS

1195
00:35:11,448 --> 00:35:14,103
AND THEN THE CASE WENT TO THE

1196
00:35:14,103 --> 00:35:14,379
JURY.

1197
00:35:14,379 --> 00:35:16,310
>> MY HEART WAS JUST POUNDING.

1198
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:19,275
♪

1199
00:35:19,275 --> 00:35:20,206
>> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF

1200
00:35:20,206 --> 00:35:22,586
THE DEFENSE THAT THE DOGS MAY

1201
00:35:22,586 --> 00:35:23,931
HAVE PLAYED A ROLE IN HER DEATH?

1202
00:35:23,931 --> 00:35:35,482
HAVE PLAYED A ROLE IN HER DEATH?
CHAT NOW WITH TH

1203
00:35:35,482 --> 00:35:36,068
CHAT NOW WITH TH

1204
00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:38,827
♪

1205
00:35:38,827 --> 00:35:40,724
>> Reporter: JURORS ERIN ELLIS,

1206
00:35:40,724 --> 00:35:43,379
JACK VAN CAMP AND SUSAN BLAHO

1207
00:35:43,379 --> 00:35:44,620
SAY WHEN DELIBERATIONS BEGAN,

1208
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:46,103
THEY FELT THE PRESSURE.

1209
00:35:46,103 --> 00:35:48,068
>> IT'S JUST SO INTIMIDATING

1210
00:35:48,068 --> 00:35:49,724
THAT YOU GOT SOMEONE'S LIFE ON

1211
00:35:49,724 --> 00:35:50,103
THE LINE.

1212
00:35:50,103 --> 00:35:51,379
>> IT WEIGHS ON YOU.

1213
00:35:51,379 --> 00:35:52,310
>> OH, YEAH.

1214
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:55,586
AND THE RIPPLE EFFECT.

1215
00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:56,931
>> THE KIDS.

1216
00:35:56,931 --> 00:35:57,448
>> YEAH.

1217
00:35:57,448 --> 00:35:59,379
>> DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT,

1218
00:35:59,379 --> 00:36:00,724
THAT THESE KIDS DIDN'T ONLY LOSE

1219
00:36:00,724 --> 00:36:02,517
THEIR MOM, THAT IF YOU CONVICT

1220
00:36:02,517 --> 00:36:04,310
HIM, NOW THEY'RE LOSING THEIR

1221
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:04,551
DAD?

1222
00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:05,551
>> OF COURSE.

1223
00:36:05,551 --> 00:36:06,413
>> YEAH.

1224
00:36:06,413 --> 00:36:07,793
>> Reporter: THEY SAY THEY ALSO

1225
00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:13,310
FELT A CLEAR MOTE I HAVEIVE WAS LACKING.

1226
00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:14,206
>> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WHY

1227
00:36:14,206 --> 00:36:14,965
SOMEBODY WOULD SNAP.

1228
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:16,793
>> SOMEBODY WOULD DO THAT.

1229
00:36:16,793 --> 00:36:17,344
>> YEAH.

1230
00:36:17,344 --> 00:36:18,827
>> Reporter: AFTER ABOUT THREE

1231
00:36:18,827 --> 00:36:23,344
HOURS THEY CAME TO A DECISION.

1232
00:36:23,344 --> 00:36:25,103
>> JURORS ARE INDICATING THAT

1233
00:36:25,103 --> 00:36:26,137
THEY'VE REACHED A VERDICT IN

1234
00:36:26,137 --> 00:36:27,068
THIS MATTER.

1235
00:36:27,068 --> 00:36:30,482
>> Reporter: THE CLERK READ THE

1236
00:36:30,482 --> 00:36:32,034
VERDICT.

1237
00:36:32,034 --> 00:36:33,551
>> WITH WE THE JURY IN THE ABOVE

1238
00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:34,689
ENTITLED ACTION FIND THE

1239
00:36:34,689 --> 00:36:36,517
DEFENDANT ERIC SCOTT SILLS NOT

1240
00:36:36,517 --> 00:36:40,758
GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF FIRST

1241
00:36:40,758 --> 00:36:41,137
DEGREE MURDER.

1242
00:36:41,137 --> 00:36:43,137
WE THE JURY IN THE

1243
00:36:43,137 --> 00:36:44,551
ABOVE-ENTITLED ACTION FIND THE

1244
00:36:44,551 --> 00:36:46,068
DEFT, ERIC SCOTT SILLS GUILTY OF

1245
00:36:46,068 --> 00:36:48,241
THE CRIME OF SECOND DEGREE

1246
00:36:48,241 --> 00:36:48,620
MURDER.

1247
00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:50,137
>> Reporter: GUILTY OF SECOND

1248
00:36:50,137 --> 00:36:51,310
DEGREE MURDER.

1249
00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:53,206
SCOTT SILLS, WHO GAVE THE GIFT

1250
00:36:53,206 --> 00:36:56,344
OF LIFE TO SO MANY THROUGH HIS

1251
00:36:56,344 --> 00:36:58,655
IVF PRACTICE, NOW CONVICTED OF

1252
00:36:58,655 --> 00:37:00,758
TAKING THE LIFE OF HIS WIFE, THE

1253
00:37:00,758 --> 00:37:04,586
MOTHER OF HIS KIDS.

1254
00:37:04,586 --> 00:37:05,551
>> I JUST FELT SAD.

1255
00:37:05,551 --> 00:37:07,379
I WAS TEARING UP ON THE WAY OUT.

1256
00:37:07,379 --> 00:37:08,896
THIS WHOLE FAMILY HAD BEEN

1257
00:37:08,896 --> 00:37:10,862
THROUGH SO MUCH, YOU KNOW.

1258
00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:12,413
NOW THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE OF

1259
00:37:12,413 --> 00:37:12,586
IT.

1260
00:37:12,586 --> 00:37:17,344
>> BUT HE DID THAT.

1261
00:37:17,344 --> 00:37:18,551
>> Reporter: THE JURORS WE SPOKE

1262
00:37:18,551 --> 00:37:22,034
TO SAY THAT NO ONE ON THE JURY

1263
00:37:22,034 --> 00:37:22,896
BOUGHT THE DEFENSE'S THEORY

1264
00:37:22,896 --> 00:37:23,551
ABOUT THE DOGS.

1265
00:37:23,551 --> 00:37:25,586
>> THE DOGS WOULD HAVE TO CHOKE

1266
00:37:25,586 --> 00:37:28,586
HER ON THE STAIRS AND MY DOG WAS

1267
00:37:28,586 --> 00:37:30,379
AS BIG AS HERS.

1268
00:37:30,379 --> 00:37:33,275
AND MY DOG CANNOT GET A GRIP ON

1269
00:37:33,275 --> 00:37:37,206
WOODEN STAIRS WITH THEIR NAILS

1270
00:37:37,206 --> 00:37:38,034
TO DO ANYTHING.

1271
00:37:38,034 --> 00:37:39,103
THEY JUST SLIDE.

1272
00:37:39,103 --> 00:37:41,241
>> THE SCARF HAD NO PUNCTURE

1273
00:37:41,241 --> 00:37:42,068
WOUNDS EITHER.

1274
00:37:42,068 --> 00:37:44,344
I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED HOLES.

1275
00:37:44,344 --> 00:37:46,586
>> AND THE FALL DOWN THE STAIRS

1276
00:37:46,586 --> 00:37:51,275
WOULDN'T CREATE THAT SCENARIO ON

1277
00:37:51,275 --> 00:37:52,103
HER BODY.

1278
00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:53,655
>> Reporter: INSTEAD, WHAT THEY

1279
00:37:53,655 --> 00:37:55,482
SPENT THE MOST TIME GRAPPLING

1280
00:37:55,482 --> 00:37:57,000
WITH WAS WHETHER SCOTT SILLS WAS

1281
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,310
GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE OR SECOND

1282
00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:00,310
DEGREE MURDER.

1283
00:38:00,310 --> 00:38:02,344
FIRST DEGREE MURDER REQUIRES

1284
00:38:02,344 --> 00:38:06,551
PREMEDITATION AND DELIBERATION.

1285
00:38:06,551 --> 00:38:08,482
>> I JUST DON'T THINK HE PLANNED

1286
00:38:08,482 --> 00:38:08,655
IT.

1287
00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:09,275
>> I DON'T.

1288
00:38:09,275 --> 00:38:11,344
>> IF HE HAD PLANNED IT OR DONE

1289
00:38:11,344 --> 00:38:12,586
ANY KIND OF FORETHOUGHT, IT

1290
00:38:12,586 --> 00:38:14,379
WOULDN'T BE A HOT MESS CRIME

1291
00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:15,172
SCENE THAT IT WAS.

1292
00:38:15,172 --> 00:38:18,896
>> IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A SNAP.

1293
00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:21,034
>> BUT INVESTIGATOR DAVE

1294
00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:22,000
HOLLOWAY SAYS WHILE SCOTT SILLS

1295
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,793
MAY NOT HAVE PLANNED HIS CRIME,

1296
00:38:23,793 --> 00:38:25,517
HE CERTAINLY HAD THE TIME TO

1297
00:38:25,517 --> 00:38:28,241
THINK ABOUT WHAT HE WAS DOING.

1298
00:38:28,241 --> 00:38:29,724
>> HE HAD PLENTY OF TIME FROM

1299
00:38:29,724 --> 00:38:31,965
WHEN HE APPLIED PRESSURE TO

1300
00:38:31,965 --> 00:38:33,379
SUSANN'S NECK TILL SHE DIED TO

1301
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STOP WHAT HE WAS DOING.

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HE STILL DID IT.

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I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IT

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WAS SECOND DEGREE.

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>> ON MARCH 15th, 2024, ABOUT

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THREE MONTHS AFTER THE VERDICT,

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COURT RECONVENED FOR SENTENCING.

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SUSANN SILLS' MOTHER, TERESA

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NEUBAUR ADDRESSED THE COURT AND

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KEPT THE FOCUS ON HER DAUGHTER.

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>> SHE WAS A DYNAMIC PERSON.

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SHE HAD HOPES AND DREAMS.

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>> Reporter: HOPES AND DREAMS

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THAT ONE DAY SUSANN WOULD SEE

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HER DAUGHTER MARY KATHERINE WALK

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DOWN THE STAIRS OF THE FAMILY'S

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SAN CLEMENTE HOME ON HER WEDDING

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DAY.

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>> IT WAS A VERY PAINFUL THING

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FOR ME TO LEARN OF THE ROLE OF

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THE STAIRCASE EVENTUALLY PLAYED

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IN REAL LIFE.

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>> Reporter: MARY KATHERINE ALSO

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ADDRESSED THE COURT AND SPOKE OF

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ALL THE LOSS SHE ENDURED AT SUCH

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A YOUNG AGE.

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SHE AND HER BROTHER WERE TAKEN

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IN BY A FAMILY FRIEND AFTER

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THEIR FATHER'S ARREST.

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AND THAT FAMILY FRIEND DIED

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SUDDENLY OF A HEALTH CONDITION

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AROUND THE END OF THE TRIAL.

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SHE ASKED THE JUDGE TO SHOW HER

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FATHER MERCY.

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>> I WANT MY FATHER TO WALK ME

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DOWN MY AISLE AT MY WEDDING SOME

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DAY.

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WHEN I HAVE A FAMILY AND

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CHILDREN, I WANT MY FATHER TO BE

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THERE TO HOLD MY BABY.

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I'VE BEEN LEFT ORPHANED AND I

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FEEL SO LOST WITHOUT MY PARENTS.

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>> WE'RE HERE FOR SENTENCING ON

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THE MATTER.

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>> Reporter: JUDGE PATRICK

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DONAHUE SENTENCED SCOTT SILLS TO

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THE MANDATORY SENTENCE UNDER

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CALIFORNIA LAW, 15 YEARS TO LIFE

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IN PRISON.

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>> GOOD LUCK, SIR.

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>> HIS FATE WAS DECIDED.

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BUT FOR SO MANY, QUESTIONS

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REMAIN.

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EXACTLY WHAT LED UP TO SUSANN

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SILLS' DEATH?

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DO YOU THINK WE'LL EVER KNOW

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EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED?

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>> I DON'T THINK SO.

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>> NO.

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>> Reporter: SCOTT SILLS

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DECLINED OUR REQUEST FOR AN

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INTERVIEW, BUT IN THE END, NO

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EXPLANATION WILL SUFFICE OR EASE

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THE PROFOUND SENSE OF LOSS THAT

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LINGERS.

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PA

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PATIENTS NOW WITHOUT THEIR

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DOCTOR.

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>> THOUSANDS OF WOMEN FELT HIM

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TO BE A SAINT.

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FROM A SAINT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO

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THE DEVIL.

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THAT'S HOW IT ENDED UP BEING.

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>> Reporter: AND CHILDREN

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WITHOUT THEIR FATHER OR THEIR

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MOTHER.

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>> HER KIDS WERE SO IMPORTANT TO

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HER AND EVERYTHING SHE DID

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REVOLVED AROUND HER CHILDREN.

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SHE WAS AN INCREDIBLE HUMAN

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BEING.

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I MISS HER.

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♪

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