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In New York City's
war on crime,
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the worst criminal offenders
are pursued
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by the detectives
of the Major Case Squad.
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These are their stories.
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Everyone's good for Thursday.
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Then we're all set.
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Pick up
Carmine on the way.
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He's too busy
to show up today?
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They're leaning on him
pretty hard at work.
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What's he afraid of,
getting fired?
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No. Try that one.
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Perfect.
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I'm getting scared, Nicky.
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Don't, baby.
I'll be right next to you.
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Three months, in advance?
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Mr. Richmond, I do not wish to be cruel,
but I'm not sure she has that long.
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I'm not sure she doesn't.
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And I'll be out of touch
for a while.
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Coverage is only
another $9 a day.
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Initial here
and here, sign here.
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I'll get the keys.
You need a map?
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We know where we're going.
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Not tonight.
I got something to do.
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But Timmons says he wants the
numbers crunched by tomorrow morning.
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What do you want me to do,
hold your hand?
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Steve, can I tell him
you'll be done?
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First thing, Mr. Skoller.
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You know, Carmine, I'd catch
your back if you needed help.
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Don't kid yourself.
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Carmine?
I'm Drew, this is Wes.
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It's freezing. You're late.
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We've got time.
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Hey, are you sure
we're in the right place?
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We're sure.
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This is it. Turn here.
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Hey, man, it's almost
9:00. We're gonna miss it.
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We're on time.
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Hey, quit...
Quit fooling around.
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Hey. Hey!
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Stop!
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I was working the gate
over at Larrabee Trucking,
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I saw this car stopped
at the crossing.
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Their headlights went out.
I thought they were stalled,
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maybe their battery died.
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Anybody get out
of the car?
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No, ma'am.
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I could make out
people inside.
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They must have heard the train. They
kept blowing the horn and didn't...
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Thank you, Mr. Clemente, this
officer will take your statement.
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Maybe we can get
a shot of what happened
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from the security cameras
on those warehouses.
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This train come through
here every night?
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Twice weekly. We're lucky
tonight it was deadheading.
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Normally it's carrying
a load of chlorine gas.
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Nice.
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Believe it or not,
it could have been worse.
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Any other week, we
would have been looking
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at a toxic gas cloud
over the Bronx.
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There's no key
in the ignition.
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The impact wouldn't have knocked
it out. Someone removed it.
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That fits what
the eyewitness saw.
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He said the headlights
went off.
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So the engineer
wouldn't see the car.
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Somebody was trying
to cause a toxic spill.
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A suicide mission?
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It's gonna take days
to ID these people.
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Can we get a shot
of this, please?
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Make sure that the lab does a
workup on these glass fragments.
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It's a rental.
To a Drew Esterhaus.
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He took the collision
insurance. Money well spent.
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Esterhaus didn't
show up this morning.
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Can I ask why
you need his info?
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We think he was killed
in an accident last night.
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He gave your law firm's
address to a car rental company.
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This is his desk.
So what happened?
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We're not sure.
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Well, it doesn't look like
he worked here very long.
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Six months.
He moved from Oregon.
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The home address we have for
him is 347 East 41st Street.
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That's the Y. Esterhaus ever
mention any environmental issues?
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Maybe that's an area your
law firm specializes in?
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No. We do trusts
and estates. Why?
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What exactly did
you hire him to do?
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Research.
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Any reason why he looked up regulations
on "do not resuscitate" orders?
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He was drafting instructions to a hospital
for a friend. He asked me to look it over.
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You remember the name of
this friend, or the hospital?
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He said he might be
out of touch for a while.
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He pre-paid his mother's care
for the next three months.
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His mother is very ill.
What's wrong with her?
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She's in the last stages
of Huntington's disease.
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Huntington's disease is
inherited, isn't that right?
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Right.
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Did Mr. Richmond
know that?
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Yes.
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Richmond's HMO said
he had himself tested
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for the Huntington's gene
a month ago.
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We don't know the results.
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Anybody we can ask?
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He lived alone, divorced,
no kids, no girlfriend.
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If you have the gene, you get
the disease. There's no cure.
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So maybe he's somebody who'd
look for a quick way out.
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What about Esterhaus?
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He's got one arrest at an anti-Big
Lumber protest in Portland.
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He dropped out of law school. No
fixed address for the last three years.
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Neither of these guys
left much of a vapor trail.
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It's hard to fathom what
their ultimate motive was.
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That helps with
the Bell's palsy?
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I don't know. I just
gotta wait it out.
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The ME just ID'd
the other passengers.
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All right, after you do the
notifications, bring in their next of kin.
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No, our daughter never
mentioned these men.
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How about your son, Mr.
Rozakis, he ever talk about them?
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Drew Esterhaus, Wes
Richmond, Carmine Ruggiero?
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Any of them active
in environmental causes?
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Eugenie always made sure we
recycled, but, no, she wasn't active.
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Unless Nicholas got her
involved in something.
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My son didn't have time for that
stuff. He was looking for work.
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Carmine was totally
focused on his job.
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He told me that he was
going to a party later.
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He needed a break,
he'd been working so hard.
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Mr. Rozakis, is there anything that you
can tell us about Nicholas and Eugenie?
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They were just
two kids in love.
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Eugenie was very immature.
She didn't know what love is.
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Nick told me they'd stop
paying for Eugenie's college
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if she kept seeing him.
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If she'd just listened to us,
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she never would've been
killed in this accident.
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That's not true. You
can't control what happens.
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Folks, thank you for coming
in. We'll be in touch with you.
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Again, we're very
sorry for your loss.
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We need a minute,
Mr. Rozakis.
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Why? I told you what I know.
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You know it wasn't
an accident.
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What do you want from me? My son's dead.
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Mr. Rozakis, if you know it was
a suicide, you have to tell us.
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God, I should've known.
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He attempted suicide before?
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After his mother died.
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I tried to help
him toughen up.
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And this time, you have no
doubt it was a suicide. Why?
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Did Nick leave a note?
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It wasn't a note.
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I just can't... I can't live without
Genie, and she can't live without me.
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Don't blame yourself, Pop.
It's nobody's fault.
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And don't blame Drew and Wes. We
all got together and talked it out.
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This is the way
it's gotta be.
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I love you, Pop. Goodbye.
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He recorded it
with his cell phone
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and e-mailed it
to his father.
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Yeah, he makes it sound
so damn normal.
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They discussed it like a
meeting of the suicide club.
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There's other voices
at the end.
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I love you, Pop. Goodbye.
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Carmine?
I'm Drew, this is Wes.
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It's freezing.
You're late.
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Doesn't sound like Carmine and the
others knew each other by sight.
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The glass in the shoe,
it's Carmine.
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I want a graph showing eight
quarters of income, not four.
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Do it over.
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Leonard?
What?
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Carmine Ruggiero's
family called.
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He was in the car that train
crashed into Thursday night.
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I told his family I'd send
them his personal effects.
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No, bring everything to me, his files,
his computer, I'll sort through it.
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Whatever you say, Leonard.
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It's safety glass from
the car's rear window.
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The way it's pressed deep into the
treads, it's not from the collision.
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He was trying to kick
his way out of the car.
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That's why most of the glass
is embedded in his heel. Thanks.
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Maybe when he saw
that train bearing down,
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Carmine had a change of heart.
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The people in the car, if he'd
never met them face to face,
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if he didn't know them, it's possible that
he had no idea what they were planning.
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A suicide club, and Carmine
didn't know he was a member.
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Carmine had flyers in his apartment
for parties at secret locations.
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They send e-mails telling people
where to catch a ride to the party.
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That might be where Carmine
thought he was going.
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Who set him up?
One of the other four?
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No evidence they knew Carmine
or each other before this week.
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Four suicidal people don't just
bump into each other on the street.
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We're also wondering how they
ended up at the railroad crossing.
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None of them ever lived
or worked in the area.
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They knew the train schedule
almost down to the second.
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Look. This is from the
surveillance cameras, 50 yards away.
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Now, less than a minute
after they stop on the tracks,
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the train comes through.
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Find who provided
this information,
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maybe you'll find who
trapped Mr. Ruggiero.
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This camera is hooked up to a
network, right? For remote monitoring?
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To a dispatch office
in Port Elizabeth.
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The images are sent
over the Internet.
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If it's unsecured,
anyone can tap in?
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With the right search words.
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Here we go.
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Somebody at
their home computer
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could have watched this long enough
to figure out the train schedule.
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Can we do a search for this image,
see if it's on any other websites?
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Anything's possible.
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That one?
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There's ours,
and the train schedule.
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And five other local
railroad crossings.
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"High places. "
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The numbers
under each building,
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maybe punch-key access codes
for the door to the roof?
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Counselor? Counselor,
you have to see this.
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This is a website,
it's a suicide how-to.
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Could be how they found
the railroad crossing.
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There's a chat room
and a message board.
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"Joanie and Chachi caught
the train Thursday night.
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"They were in fine company. "
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Joanie and Chachi, screen
names for Nicholas and Eugenie?
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This is where
the four of them met.
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Five.
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Whoever set up Carmine
had to be on here
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posing as him to
talk to the others.
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I'll subpoena their records.
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A matchmaking service for
suicides. It was bound to happen.
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I'll dance in hell before
I turn over anything.
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The people who log on to my
website aren't breaking any laws.
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Mr. Smythe, we're interested
only in conversations
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pertaining to the individuals
who died last Thursday.
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Any conversation on
my client's website
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is protected by
the First Amendment.
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Those individuals exercised not only
their free speech, but their free will.
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I have a better idea,
Mr. Smythe.
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I'll have you indicted
on four counts
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of manslaughter
for aiding a suicide.
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You can't scare me. I've
fought this battle before.
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I'm invoking my right to
testify before your grand jury.
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Be my guest.
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My website is a forum for
the free exchange of ideas.
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I do not give advice
one way or the other.
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I respect the right of
individuals to live their life,
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or end it, with dignity.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Smythe, is this really your
idea of a dignified end to a life?
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If it's the end they
chose for themselves.
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Myself, I'd probably
go another way.
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How? Off a roof in Midtown?
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Or the George
Washington Bridge?
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Or maybe a poison?
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Your website
provides information
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for each of these
methods of suicide.
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I don't offer anything that
isn't freely available elsewhere.
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At the public library,
for example.
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Really?
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They have a section called
"Suicide For Dummies"?
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The people who come to my site
aren't dummies, Mr. Carver.
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They've made
an informed decision.
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You don't even know how old
they are. They could be children.
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Do you offer them
another perspective?
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Do you list the numbers
of suicide hotlines?
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That's not my responsibility.
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What is your responsibility,
Mr. Smythe?
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I just post
neutral information,
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as is my right under
the First Amendment.
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Are you telling us
you did not foresee
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that your information would be used
by these people to kill themselves,
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to give them that
final push over the edge?
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00:16:14,787 --> 00:16:17,756
No one who comes to my website
is asking to have their life saved
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by me or by Big Brother.
All they want is respect.
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And all they get from you,
Mr. Smythe, is indifference.
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You're excused.
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At this time, the People ask that
the grand jury consider the charges
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previously submitted
to you. Yes?
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00:16:41,113 --> 00:16:45,777
Mr. Carver, the statute says a person
is guilty of second-degree manslaughter
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if they intentionally help
another person commit suicide.
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But if they're just
providing information
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anyone can get at
the public library,
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how is that a crime?
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00:16:54,694 --> 00:16:58,790
Mr. Smythe speaks of a
free exchange of ideas.
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00:16:59,498 --> 00:17:02,023
There's only one idea
on his website,
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that suicide is in every
case a reasonable answer.
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He talks of neutral information.
There are no neutral acts.
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By assembling this information in
one place, he facilitates suicide.
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His website offers
them no alternative.
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He says that's not
his responsibility.
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Well,
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if you see a bleeding man, it
is your responsibility to help.
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You can't look away
and do nothing.
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It is not your responsibility to
grease the skids of his demise.
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Doing that is criminal.
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Four counts of manslaughter.
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What I get for overestimating
the intelligence of a grand jury.
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Just be grateful the D.A. Let
you off with a plea bargain.
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00:17:55,454 --> 00:17:58,753
I don't consider shutting
down my website a bargain.
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00:17:58,991 --> 00:18:00,925
All right.
Joanie and Chachi, right?
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00:18:00,993 --> 00:18:02,824
This is the last chat
I have for them.
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00:18:02,895 --> 00:18:06,023
Thank you. You can go do
your little dance in hell now.
291
00:18:10,069 --> 00:18:14,699
All right, we've got Chachi
chatting with Lawboy and Flix134.
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00:18:14,974 --> 00:18:16,498
If Chachi's Nicholas,
293
00:18:16,575 --> 00:18:19,339
Lawboy might be Drew
Esterhaus at the law firm.
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00:18:19,812 --> 00:18:21,439
They're setting up a meeting.
295
00:18:21,714 --> 00:18:24,649
Whitestone. The hospice
for Wes Richmond's mother.
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00:18:24,717 --> 00:18:26,309
So he's Flix134.
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00:18:28,053 --> 00:18:31,955
Well, we got a new
addition here. "Carm00."
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Carmine, or somebody
posing as him,
299
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,752
begging off from a face-to-face
before the big night.
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00:18:38,297 --> 00:18:41,027
Can we search for just
Carm00's entries?
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00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:42,961
Carm00 and Lawboy.
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00:18:56,315 --> 00:18:58,909
Edie. A girl
at Carmine's work?
303
00:18:58,984 --> 00:19:02,476
Well, she's mentioned for a reason.
Maybe the reason Carmine was killed.
304
00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:09,558
We're all still in shock about
Carmine. Such a terrible waste.
305
00:19:09,628 --> 00:19:12,461
You're his immediate
supervisor. You knew him well?
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00:19:12,531 --> 00:19:14,965
Not very.
We have a high turnover.
307
00:19:15,501 --> 00:19:19,028
He was very driven, one of our
most promising finance specialists.
308
00:19:19,605 --> 00:19:22,472
Mr. Skoller, it's your wife.
She's downstairs in the car.
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00:19:22,541 --> 00:19:24,270
Tell her I'll be
a few minutes.
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00:19:24,677 --> 00:19:25,666
Mrs. Skoller...
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00:19:25,744 --> 00:19:27,371
Taking the family
skiing for the weekend.
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00:19:27,446 --> 00:19:31,473
There's just one more thing. We need
to speak with one of his coworkers,
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00:19:32,251 --> 00:19:33,980
a woman named Edie?
314
00:19:34,553 --> 00:19:35,713
Edie Elverson?
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00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:39,751
I'm afraid Edie passed away.
316
00:19:41,460 --> 00:19:43,621
She took her own life
five months ago.
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00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:49,600
I really should go.
318
00:19:52,505 --> 00:19:56,168
Talk about turnover.
A murder and a suicide?
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00:19:58,410 --> 00:20:00,002
Or two murders.
320
00:20:05,117 --> 00:20:06,675
Hello? Hubert, I've been going through
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00:20:06,752 --> 00:20:10,745
Ruggiero's laptop and I've
found some disturbing things.
322
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:13,124
I need you in here
tomorrow morning.
323
00:20:13,192 --> 00:20:16,787
But, Leonard, I'm with my family
in the Berkshires. We just got here.
324
00:20:16,862 --> 00:20:18,124
Your family can
stay up there, Hubert.
325
00:20:18,197 --> 00:20:22,031
I need you in here tomorrow
morning, first thing.
326
00:20:22,134 --> 00:20:23,795
I work, you work.
327
00:20:42,021 --> 00:20:44,489
Edie Elverson
took a dive off a high-rise.
328
00:20:44,557 --> 00:20:46,855
No evidence of a struggle,
only her prints
329
00:20:46,926 --> 00:20:48,894
on the keypad for
the roof door alarm
330
00:20:48,961 --> 00:20:51,725
and only her prints on a bottle
of wine found on the roof.
331
00:20:51,797 --> 00:20:52,821
She'd been drinking?
332
00:20:52,898 --> 00:20:54,866
Blood alcohol of 0.05.
333
00:20:54,934 --> 00:20:56,697
Her parents said
she'd been depressed.
334
00:20:56,769 --> 00:21:00,330
The roof alarm code was
on the suicide website.
335
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,232
No coincidence Carmine's killer
used the same website to set him up.
336
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:06,904
He wants to draw a parallel
between the two deaths.
337
00:21:08,614 --> 00:21:12,015
This is a message written
under Carmine's name,
338
00:21:12,084 --> 00:21:14,279
"So much guilt.
What kind of person am I?
339
00:21:14,353 --> 00:21:16,514
"Too late for apologies,
that's the worst. "
340
00:21:17,423 --> 00:21:20,881
Now, Carmine did something to
her maybe that led to her suicide.
341
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,860
Killing him
could be payback.
342
00:21:24,463 --> 00:21:28,422
Carmine Ruggiero?
We know who he is.
343
00:21:29,568 --> 00:21:30,967
He worked
with our daughter.
344
00:21:31,036 --> 00:21:32,697
Do you know how
they got along?
345
00:21:32,771 --> 00:21:34,602
Edie never said they didn't.
346
00:21:34,673 --> 00:21:36,800
Did they have a
relationship outside of work?
347
00:21:36,875 --> 00:21:39,400
No. She wasn't
seeing anyone.
348
00:21:39,478 --> 00:21:41,537
Did you ask Ruggiero
these questions?
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00:21:41,614 --> 00:21:42,672
No.
350
00:21:43,616 --> 00:21:46,107
He was killed a week ago,
in a collision with a train.
351
00:21:46,652 --> 00:21:51,112
Those kids in that car? I heard
it was some kind of suicide pact.
352
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:53,249
We're still sorting that out.
353
00:21:53,325 --> 00:21:55,156
But you're asking us
about Edie?
354
00:21:55,661 --> 00:21:58,186
Well, we found a message,
attributed to Carmine,
355
00:21:58,263 --> 00:22:01,824
expressing regret about
something he might've done to her.
356
00:22:02,368 --> 00:22:04,768
The police said
Edie committed suicide.
357
00:22:04,837 --> 00:22:07,897
Maybe Carmine contributed
to her state of mind.
358
00:22:09,775 --> 00:22:12,676
Now, you told the police
she was depressed.
359
00:22:13,145 --> 00:22:16,171
It was that job. She worked
her heart out. Even weekends.
360
00:22:16,248 --> 00:22:18,876
She'd be over for Sunday
brunch and get called away.
361
00:22:25,257 --> 00:22:27,225
Seven-day work weeks
are standard.
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00:22:27,292 --> 00:22:30,284
Loans to companies in
trouble are deadline driven,
363
00:22:30,396 --> 00:22:32,489
and we have a young staff
with plenty of energy,
364
00:22:32,564 --> 00:22:34,862
and the more they burn,
the more they earn.
365
00:22:34,933 --> 00:22:37,902
Or burn out, Mr. Timmons,
like Edie Elverson?
366
00:22:38,270 --> 00:22:41,103
This isn't work
for the faint-hearted.
367
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,868
Character weaknesses bubble
up to the surface pretty fast.
368
00:22:44,343 --> 00:22:47,540
Carmine Ruggiero, was that
one of Edie's weaknesses?
369
00:22:49,214 --> 00:22:51,444
I never heard that.
Excuse me.
370
00:22:55,387 --> 00:22:56,945
We're waiting, where is he?
371
00:22:58,857 --> 00:23:02,224
Oh. There you are. Hubert'll
answer all your questions.
372
00:23:03,595 --> 00:23:06,758
These files cover Edie's
last two months of work.
373
00:23:06,865 --> 00:23:10,665
Performance review, loans in
progress. And these are Carmine's.
374
00:23:10,736 --> 00:23:13,796
Edie's performance,
how was it?
375
00:23:13,872 --> 00:23:17,330
Her family said that
she worked long hours.
376
00:23:17,409 --> 00:23:20,708
She got the work done, but
she kept missing deadlines.
377
00:23:20,779 --> 00:23:22,906
Any way Carmine
could've submarined her?
378
00:23:22,981 --> 00:23:24,141
No, I would've caught on.
379
00:23:26,085 --> 00:23:28,144
Mr. Skoller, maybe you
can explain this.
380
00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:32,350
There are eight revisions of this
loan analysis that Edie prepared.
381
00:23:32,558 --> 00:23:35,118
Except, each draft doesn't seem all
that different from the previous.
382
00:23:35,194 --> 00:23:39,290
There's new punctuation marks,
the graph's a little bigger...
383
00:23:40,566 --> 00:23:42,431
Were these changes your idea?
384
00:23:42,501 --> 00:23:44,731
No. Mr. Timmons
reviewed these.
385
00:23:46,004 --> 00:23:47,972
A lot of busywork for nothing.
386
00:23:48,741 --> 00:23:51,107
That would be contrary
to the company policy
387
00:23:51,176 --> 00:23:53,906
outlined in our
human resource document
388
00:23:53,979 --> 00:23:56,948
that every employee has to
review and sign once a year.
389
00:23:57,015 --> 00:24:00,473
If we find any other files, I'll
make sure you get them right away.
390
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,684
Each report that Edie wrote
was revised over and over again.
391
00:24:06,091 --> 00:24:08,286
She was called out
for minor mistakes
392
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:12,387
and dragged in
to work weekends.
393
00:24:12,464 --> 00:24:14,591
Somebody had it in for her.
394
00:24:15,067 --> 00:24:17,399
Well, it's a hostile
work environment.
395
00:24:17,469 --> 00:24:20,905
Maybe that's the reason
for Skoller's legal-speak.
396
00:24:21,673 --> 00:24:24,574
The company being sued
for Edie's suicide.
397
00:24:25,344 --> 00:24:27,505
Edie Elverson's
parents were preparing
398
00:24:27,579 --> 00:24:29,342
for a wrongful death suit
two months ago.
399
00:24:29,815 --> 00:24:33,012
They took depositions,
including Carmine Ruggiero.
400
00:24:33,118 --> 00:24:35,916
I convinced the Elversons'
lawyer to give us a copy.
401
00:24:35,988 --> 00:24:37,717
Short deposition.
402
00:24:37,790 --> 00:24:41,783
The lawyer had scheduled two hours
with Ruggiero, but she cut it short.
403
00:24:43,228 --> 00:24:44,889
Did Longbridge settle
with the Elversons?
404
00:24:44,963 --> 00:24:46,487
The lawsuit
was never filed.
405
00:24:46,565 --> 00:24:50,228
My impression is that the
Elversons decided to drop it.
406
00:24:50,302 --> 00:24:51,360
Maybe this is why.
407
00:24:51,436 --> 00:24:54,928
"Question. Was Ms. Elverson asked to
work more hours than other employees?
408
00:24:55,007 --> 00:24:57,567
"Ruggiero. No. She told
me she came in to work
409
00:24:57,643 --> 00:24:59,668
"because she hated
being at home alone.
410
00:24:59,745 --> 00:25:01,736
"She was uncomfortable
around her family.
411
00:25:02,114 --> 00:25:04,082
"Question. Did she explain
what she meant?
412
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:05,912
"Ruggiero.
She was drinking a lot.
413
00:25:05,984 --> 00:25:07,679
"She was afraid
they'd find out.
414
00:25:08,187 --> 00:25:12,419
"Question. Isn't it true she was
asked to redo her work for no reason?
415
00:25:12,491 --> 00:25:14,425
"Ruggiero. No.
It was her idea.
416
00:25:14,493 --> 00:25:15,858
"She said she
was afraid Timmons
417
00:25:15,928 --> 00:25:17,452
"would notice she was
making mistakes
418
00:25:17,963 --> 00:25:20,295
"because of her drinking
and fire her. "
419
00:25:20,365 --> 00:25:23,960
"I came in one Saturday, I found
her in the bathroom, getting sick.
420
00:25:24,036 --> 00:25:25,367
"She was drunk,
she was crying.
421
00:25:25,437 --> 00:25:29,737
"She told me she tried to kill
herself in college by taking pills.
422
00:25:29,808 --> 00:25:31,298
"She said no one knew. "
423
00:25:31,376 --> 00:25:32,809
This is how Carmine
let her down.
424
00:25:32,878 --> 00:25:35,711
He lied in his deposition,
like a good company man,
425
00:25:35,781 --> 00:25:38,249
and he sank
the Elversons' lawsuit.
426
00:25:39,151 --> 00:25:40,641
But if he dies
an apparent suicide
427
00:25:40,719 --> 00:25:42,152
because he felt guilty
about lying...
428
00:25:42,221 --> 00:25:45,657
It might help the Elversons'
lawsuit get back on track.
429
00:25:45,724 --> 00:25:48,818
I can think of one person
that would make happy.
430
00:25:49,795 --> 00:25:52,855
I came across these
in my office.
431
00:25:52,931 --> 00:25:54,455
I thought Mrs. Elverson
might want them.
432
00:25:55,601 --> 00:25:57,466
I'm sure she'll appreciate
the thought.
433
00:25:57,536 --> 00:26:01,131
I have to tell you again
how sorry I am about Edie.
434
00:26:01,206 --> 00:26:04,471
We lost another young person
a couple of weeks ago.
435
00:26:04,676 --> 00:26:08,009
Carmine Ruggiero.
Took his own life.
436
00:26:09,348 --> 00:26:12,317
The stress in that office,
it's inhuman.
437
00:26:13,719 --> 00:26:15,619
That's not what
the police think.
438
00:26:15,687 --> 00:26:16,711
What do you mean?
439
00:26:16,788 --> 00:26:20,053
They talked to me and my lawyer
about Edie and the lawsuit.
440
00:26:20,125 --> 00:26:23,424
Like they think I had
something to do with Ruggiero.
441
00:26:26,732 --> 00:26:28,700
Thanks for the pictures,
Mr. Skoller.
442
00:26:38,477 --> 00:26:39,774
What's all this?
443
00:26:39,845 --> 00:26:41,540
Our friends at Longbridge
444
00:26:41,613 --> 00:26:46,482
sent us the contents of
Carmine's desk. Day planner.
445
00:26:46,652 --> 00:26:49,018
See what he had down
for that Thursday.
446
00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:02,331
Something for Edie?
447
00:27:09,541 --> 00:27:14,774
Leonard Timmons? I'm seeing
something sheer and sexy.
448
00:27:14,947 --> 00:27:17,814
Edie Elverson was having
an affair with her boss.
449
00:27:17,883 --> 00:27:19,009
No wonder she felt harassed.
450
00:27:19,084 --> 00:27:21,109
Not to mention suicidal.
451
00:27:21,186 --> 00:27:23,984
Carmine had proof
of the affair.
452
00:27:24,056 --> 00:27:25,421
It's probably stolen
from Edie's desk.
453
00:27:27,893 --> 00:27:30,191
It's considerable leverage
over Timmons.
454
00:27:30,262 --> 00:27:31,354
If I were Timmons,
I might've started
455
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:33,990
looking at train
schedules myself.
456
00:27:39,705 --> 00:27:42,697
I'm a married man.
I'm not stupid.
457
00:27:44,042 --> 00:27:45,270
I saw what happened
at Boeing,
458
00:27:45,344 --> 00:27:48,108
people getting fired even
for having consensual affairs.
459
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:53,277
"Saw this and thought of you.
Can't wait to see you in it. Len. "
460
00:27:53,752 --> 00:27:56,277
We had Secret Santa
last Christmas.
461
00:27:56,355 --> 00:27:59,984
I drew Edie's name,
I bought her a funny hat.
462
00:28:00,392 --> 00:28:03,225
The detectives tell me
they can trace this gift card
463
00:28:03,328 --> 00:28:06,195
to the lingerie store
it came from.
464
00:28:06,264 --> 00:28:07,822
That wouldn't prove anything.
465
00:28:07,899 --> 00:28:10,333
You're curious where
we found it, aren't you?
466
00:28:10,402 --> 00:28:11,664
Maybe he already knows.
467
00:28:11,737 --> 00:28:13,261
Carmine Ruggiero had it.
468
00:28:13,338 --> 00:28:16,330
Now, he was blackmailing
you over your affair?
469
00:28:16,408 --> 00:28:18,706
It's why Edie was called in
to the office on the weekends.
470
00:28:18,777 --> 00:28:20,711
It's why she felt
sexually harassed.
471
00:28:20,779 --> 00:28:21,803
She wasn't sexually harassed.
472
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,372
She wanted to break it off, and
that's when you turned on her,
473
00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,681
more work, more scrutiny,
until she'd capitulate to you.
474
00:28:28,754 --> 00:28:30,449
That's rubbish.
She felt trapped.
475
00:28:30,522 --> 00:28:33,514
Miss Elverson was already
a troubled young woman.
476
00:28:33,592 --> 00:28:38,325
That lawsuit, that could've
gotten very messy for you,
477
00:28:38,397 --> 00:28:40,831
if it weren't for Carmine. There
was no affair. You can ask anyone...
478
00:28:40,899 --> 00:28:43,060
We'd ask Carmine, but someone
put him in front of a train.
479
00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:47,003
We didn't come here to be
ambushed. Leonard, let's go.
480
00:28:51,043 --> 00:28:53,034
Secret Santa,
that's a new one.
481
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:57,606
Prove him a liar. Find the
gift that went with the card.
482
00:29:01,386 --> 00:29:04,822
Designer lingerie. I see
marks from garter belt hooks.
483
00:29:06,124 --> 00:29:09,252
But no garter belts
and no matching stocking.
484
00:29:09,327 --> 00:29:11,352
Everything here's rated PG.
485
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:16,028
You'd think Timmons would shower
her with negligees, sexy bras...
486
00:29:19,738 --> 00:29:22,036
Mr. Elverson,
did Edie have a laptop?
487
00:29:22,107 --> 00:29:23,233
We didn't find one.
488
00:29:23,308 --> 00:29:26,709
She have a diary or electronic
organizer, anything like that?
489
00:29:26,778 --> 00:29:30,839
No. Just old letters, and a photo
album with pictures of her friends.
490
00:29:31,516 --> 00:29:33,245
Could we see that?
491
00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:35,309
I had it out
a couple of days ago.
492
00:29:35,887 --> 00:29:37,252
No lingerie, no computer,
493
00:29:37,322 --> 00:29:40,257
maybe Timmons cleaned her
place out after she died.
494
00:29:40,692 --> 00:29:43,593
You were with the police when
they went into Edie's place?
495
00:29:43,662 --> 00:29:44,651
How did it look?
496
00:29:44,729 --> 00:29:46,788
It looked all right,
a little messy.
497
00:29:50,702 --> 00:29:52,567
You just looked
at these a couple of days ago?
498
00:29:52,637 --> 00:29:54,434
I just added
those office pictures.
499
00:29:54,506 --> 00:29:57,600
Edie's supervisor dropped
them off last Tuesday.
500
00:29:59,277 --> 00:30:01,108
Hubert Skoller?
Out of the blue?
501
00:30:01,179 --> 00:30:03,704
Yes. And he told me
about Carmine Ruggiero.
502
00:30:03,782 --> 00:30:05,875
He thinks it was a suicide.
503
00:30:09,054 --> 00:30:10,453
Well, what did you
say about that?
504
00:30:10,522 --> 00:30:11,921
I told him you people
seemed to think
505
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:14,390
that I had something to
do with the kid's death.
506
00:30:18,530 --> 00:30:20,725
Okay, thank you, Mr. Elverson.
507
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,357
We'll call you
when we're done.
508
00:30:24,803 --> 00:30:27,271
Hubert hears Elverson's
a murder suspect.
509
00:30:27,372 --> 00:30:30,398
The next day, we
coincidentally find a gift tag
510
00:30:30,475 --> 00:30:32,067
that implicates Timmons.
511
00:30:36,448 --> 00:30:38,643
Hubert Skoller, office enigma.
512
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,751
Timmons found out
she suicided,
513
00:30:43,822 --> 00:30:46,814
he must've sent his right-hand
guy to clean out her apartment.
514
00:30:46,892 --> 00:30:49,520
Which would explain how
Hubert got the gift card
515
00:30:49,628 --> 00:30:52,153
he planted in
Carmine's day planner.
516
00:30:52,964 --> 00:30:54,431
Implicating your boss
in a murder
517
00:30:54,499 --> 00:30:57,093
isn't usually what
right-hand guys do.
518
00:30:57,169 --> 00:30:59,933
Thank you. Well, this might
explain his change of heart.
519
00:31:00,005 --> 00:31:02,496
His deposition in
the Elverson suit.
520
00:31:02,574 --> 00:31:04,235
"Question.
Did Miss Elverson complain
521
00:31:04,309 --> 00:31:06,174
"to you about her work
hours and workload?
522
00:31:06,478 --> 00:31:08,776
"Skoller. No.
Question. When her work was
523
00:31:08,847 --> 00:31:10,610
"constantly sent
back for revisions,
524
00:31:10,682 --> 00:31:13,242
"didn't it occur to you
something was wrong? Skoller. No.
525
00:31:13,318 --> 00:31:16,048
"If I thought she was being
victimized, that she was suicidal,
526
00:31:16,121 --> 00:31:18,749
"and I had done nothing, what
kind of person would that make me?"
527
00:31:18,823 --> 00:31:21,121
That has a familiar
ring to it.
528
00:31:28,466 --> 00:31:30,195
"I see Edie's shadow
everywhere at work.
529
00:31:30,268 --> 00:31:34,068
"So much guilt.
What kind of person am I?"
530
00:31:34,773 --> 00:31:38,539
It was Hubert pretending
to be Carmine on the website.
531
00:31:39,311 --> 00:31:41,541
He feels guilt about
what happened to Edie.
532
00:31:43,915 --> 00:31:47,248
He knows what kind of person
he is, and he doesn't like it.
533
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,685
He's trying to
put things right.
534
00:31:49,754 --> 00:31:52,450
Killing Carmine,
exposing Timmons' affair...
535
00:31:53,124 --> 00:31:55,354
Maybe Hubert kept other
souvenirs from Edie's place.
536
00:32:02,534 --> 00:32:04,661
You gonna finish it for him?
537
00:32:05,270 --> 00:32:07,465
Hubert does beautiful work.
538
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,773
But it's dusty. Looks like he
hasn't touched it in months.
539
00:32:11,843 --> 00:32:14,812
No time. Between the mortgage
and three kids in private school,
540
00:32:14,879 --> 00:32:17,177
he'd better keep it
to the grindstone.
541
00:32:17,849 --> 00:32:21,444
And all of his bills
are past due. Small ones.
542
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:27,355
$60 for his cable TV, $50
for his kid's ballet lessons.
543
00:32:27,692 --> 00:32:29,751
His alumni association
wanted to honor him
544
00:32:29,828 --> 00:32:33,764
for his work mentoring
undergrads. But he never responded.
545
00:32:37,769 --> 00:32:41,796
He's letting it all slide, even
the things that matter to him.
546
00:32:43,775 --> 00:32:45,868
He's sinking into depression.
547
00:32:46,177 --> 00:32:48,145
He hasn't let
everything slide.
548
00:32:49,748 --> 00:32:54,014
Recent bank and brokerage
statements organized by institution,
549
00:32:55,387 --> 00:32:58,879
insurance policies with
canceled checks attached.
550
00:33:04,162 --> 00:33:06,357
A key to his
safe-deposit box.
551
00:33:07,832 --> 00:33:09,629
For his wife?
552
00:33:10,769 --> 00:33:13,704
Looks like Hubert is getting
all his affairs in order.
553
00:33:20,345 --> 00:33:24,304
Mr. Skoller, it's the Carmichael
loan, I can't make the numbers work.
554
00:33:25,450 --> 00:33:26,644
I didn't mean
to interrupt you.
555
00:33:26,718 --> 00:33:27,707
It's nothing.
556
00:33:28,653 --> 00:33:30,644
Just deleting old files.
557
00:33:32,624 --> 00:33:34,854
Let's take a look at
those numbers, Steven.
558
00:33:39,597 --> 00:33:41,895
I appreciate that you
think he might be suicidal,
559
00:33:41,966 --> 00:33:46,767
but my interest here is putting whoever
killed Carmine Ruggiero behind bars.
560
00:33:46,838 --> 00:33:50,638
If Hubert Skoller dies
before we can get the truth,
561
00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,175
no one's interest is served.
562
00:33:55,246 --> 00:33:56,304
If he wanted to
make things right,
563
00:33:56,381 --> 00:33:58,747
why not just expose
Timmons' affair?
564
00:33:58,817 --> 00:34:02,150
He helped Timmons cover up,
he lied in the deposition.
565
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,484
He'd lose his job.
This guy can't afford it.
566
00:34:04,556 --> 00:34:06,820
He probably thought that
Carmine's apparent suicide
567
00:34:06,891 --> 00:34:08,449
would bolster
the Elversons' claim
568
00:34:08,526 --> 00:34:11,120
that Longbridge was
a hostile work environment.
569
00:34:11,196 --> 00:34:12,185
That's who he
was trying to help.
570
00:34:12,263 --> 00:34:14,128
But now it's
falling apart on him.
571
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:18,226
Look, if we give him a way
out... He panicked the last time
572
00:34:18,303 --> 00:34:20,237
he thought that we were
going after the wrong man.
573
00:34:22,941 --> 00:34:25,000
I'll calendar the grand jury
in the morning
574
00:34:25,076 --> 00:34:28,807
to consider a bill of indictment
against Frank Elverson,
575
00:34:29,547 --> 00:34:34,348
by which time you should be serving
this subpoena on Mr. Skoller.
576
00:34:35,086 --> 00:34:37,145
That is what
you have in mind, isn't it?
577
00:34:37,222 --> 00:34:39,850
Almost. We'll need another
one for Len Timmons.
578
00:34:44,229 --> 00:34:45,457
Perfect.
579
00:34:48,366 --> 00:34:50,163
So they roped you in, too.
580
00:34:50,235 --> 00:34:51,429
Do you know what it's about?
581
00:34:52,270 --> 00:34:56,400
Well, it says right here on the
subpoena, "People versus Elverson. "
582
00:34:56,474 --> 00:34:58,339
Seems pretty clear to me.
583
00:34:58,410 --> 00:34:59,741
They're indicting
Frank Elverson
584
00:34:59,811 --> 00:35:01,745
for the murder
of Carmine Ruggiero.
585
00:35:03,114 --> 00:35:04,274
Oh, my God.
586
00:35:06,518 --> 00:35:10,477
Hubert, my lawyer has some advice
on handling the D.A.'s questions.
587
00:35:11,489 --> 00:35:15,220
It's important your answers stay
on point. Don't volunteer anything.
588
00:35:15,293 --> 00:35:20,196
You got that, Hubert? Stay on
point. Don't embarrass the company.
589
00:35:21,232 --> 00:35:23,462
Good, you're both here.
590
00:35:23,535 --> 00:35:27,699
Before you testify, I need you
to sign these waivers of immunity.
591
00:35:28,907 --> 00:35:31,842
You'll be testifying before a
grand jury assembled to consider
592
00:35:31,943 --> 00:35:34,343
a bill of indictment
against Frank Elverson
593
00:35:34,412 --> 00:35:36,676
for the murder
of Carmine Ruggiero.
594
00:35:36,748 --> 00:35:38,443
You're expected
to answer truthfully
595
00:35:38,516 --> 00:35:40,450
and to the best
of your knowledge.
596
00:35:40,518 --> 00:35:42,952
I don't think I have
anything relevant to offer.
597
00:35:43,021 --> 00:35:45,148
You let me worry
about that, Mr. Skoller.
598
00:35:53,531 --> 00:35:56,625
Well, there are some things
we need to go over
599
00:35:56,701 --> 00:35:59,568
to help Mr. Carver
prepare for your testimony.
600
00:35:59,637 --> 00:36:02,299
Why does he think
Mr. Elverson killed Carmine?
601
00:36:02,373 --> 00:36:05,342
Now, I've met Mr. Elverson,
he didn't seem the type.
602
00:36:06,277 --> 00:36:08,245
We can't discuss
evidence with you.
603
00:36:08,313 --> 00:36:10,247
Except evidence they
already know about.
604
00:36:10,315 --> 00:36:12,180
You know, the lawsuit.
605
00:36:15,286 --> 00:36:17,447
Carmine's deposition
blew it out of the water.
606
00:36:17,522 --> 00:36:21,959
With Elverson,
it's all about money.
607
00:36:24,128 --> 00:36:27,029
It's like what you said about
his daughter in your deposition,
608
00:36:27,098 --> 00:36:32,126
she's aloof,
not a team player...
609
00:36:32,203 --> 00:36:34,899
That's right.
Very standoffish.
610
00:36:34,973 --> 00:36:37,601
Usually a sign of
personality problems.
611
00:36:40,745 --> 00:36:43,908
Did you ever get the box of
materials from Carmine's desk?
612
00:36:43,982 --> 00:36:46,177
Got it the same day
you sent it.
613
00:36:46,251 --> 00:36:48,742
That's how we found
your card to Edie.
614
00:36:52,824 --> 00:36:53,848
Really?
615
00:36:53,925 --> 00:36:55,688
Tucked into
Carmine's day planner.
616
00:36:57,495 --> 00:37:03,195
Mr. Timmons said that it was
from his Secret Santa gift.
617
00:37:03,268 --> 00:37:05,133
A funny hat, right?
618
00:37:05,203 --> 00:37:06,431
That's right, a hat.
619
00:37:07,772 --> 00:37:10,707
You remember, Hubert,
at the Christmas party?
620
00:37:11,809 --> 00:37:13,800
Yes, Leonard, I remember.
621
00:37:15,313 --> 00:37:17,907
I'm sure Edie
didn't need a hat.
622
00:37:17,982 --> 00:37:21,941
She was probably
already wearing a lampshade.
623
00:37:22,587 --> 00:37:25,647
Yeah, that's the impression we got
of her from Carmine's deposition.
624
00:37:25,723 --> 00:37:27,384
She had a drinking problem.
625
00:37:27,458 --> 00:37:30,086
That had to be hard for
Elverson to hear from Carmine.
626
00:37:31,396 --> 00:37:32,920
No wonder he went
after the kid.
627
00:37:32,997 --> 00:37:34,965
I never saw any
evidence of drinking.
628
00:37:36,334 --> 00:37:37,323
Hmm.
629
00:37:37,835 --> 00:37:40,269
How about you, Mr. Timmons,
you ever notice anything?
630
00:37:40,338 --> 00:37:44,968
Unfortunately, yes. I saw her
come out of a bar near the office
631
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:47,873
on a couple of occasions,
in the middle of the day.
632
00:37:47,946 --> 00:37:52,212
Edie's funny hat,
you know...
633
00:37:53,518 --> 00:37:55,918
We never...
What did it look like?
634
00:37:56,521 --> 00:37:59,718
It was green,
like for a Christmas elf.
635
00:38:00,391 --> 00:38:02,882
If you knew Edie was
drinking during work,
636
00:38:02,961 --> 00:38:04,326
why didn't you
reprimand her?
637
00:38:04,429 --> 00:38:07,887
Yeah, Hubert'll tell you, I'm
no hard-ass. I gave her a chance.
638
00:38:08,733 --> 00:38:11,827
I just had no idea
how bad it was.
639
00:38:15,273 --> 00:38:16,706
You had no idea?
640
00:38:17,842 --> 00:38:21,107
That's what Hubert said
in his deposition.
641
00:38:23,715 --> 00:38:26,843
Because if he had an idea
how suicidal she was,
642
00:38:26,918 --> 00:38:31,912
and he did nothing, what kind
of person would that make him?
643
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:33,480
Exactly right.
644
00:38:36,361 --> 00:38:39,330
A green Christmas elf hat,
is that...
645
00:38:40,031 --> 00:38:42,158
That's really what
he gave her?
646
00:38:45,737 --> 00:38:49,332
Come on, Hubert, you can't
take this anymore, man.
647
00:38:53,077 --> 00:38:55,307
There was no
damned funny hat.
648
00:38:56,481 --> 00:39:00,577
He gave her red stockings, garter
belts, all kinds of lingerie.
649
00:39:00,652 --> 00:39:02,017
He was having
an affair with her.
650
00:39:02,086 --> 00:39:03,917
Hubert, what the hell
are you talking about?
651
00:39:03,988 --> 00:39:06,684
I can't listen to
any more of your lies.
652
00:39:06,758 --> 00:39:09,318
After she died, Len gave
me a key to her apartment
653
00:39:09,394 --> 00:39:10,759
and a list of everything
he'd given her,
654
00:39:10,828 --> 00:39:12,557
and he told me
to take it all.
655
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:15,758
You bastard.
You're finished. Finished!
656
00:39:15,833 --> 00:39:18,563
The affair, that's why he harassed
her, that's why he victimized her?
657
00:39:18,736 --> 00:39:21,967
Yes, when she wouldn't
sleep with him anymore.
658
00:39:23,474 --> 00:39:25,374
He said he'd crush her.
659
00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:27,641
He kept punishing her
and punishing her
660
00:39:27,712 --> 00:39:29,839
till she couldn't
take it anymore.
661
00:39:29,914 --> 00:39:32,382
And she came to you
for help, didn't she?
662
00:39:32,784 --> 00:39:36,049
She was too ashamed to file a
complaint. She asked me to talk to him.
663
00:39:38,756 --> 00:39:40,189
What did you do?
664
00:39:43,995 --> 00:39:45,053
Nothing.
665
00:39:47,331 --> 00:39:49,765
I was afraid of Leonard,
of losing my job.
666
00:39:51,102 --> 00:39:53,161
I told her she'd have to
tough it out.
667
00:39:54,305 --> 00:39:57,570
You shut the door on her.
That did it.
668
00:39:59,744 --> 00:40:01,974
Even so, Hubert,
it doesn't change anything.
669
00:40:02,046 --> 00:40:04,173
You still have to testify
in the Elverson case.
670
00:40:04,248 --> 00:40:08,309
It changes everything. He's the
one with a reason to kill Carmine.
671
00:40:08,386 --> 00:40:10,320
Carmine knew about the affair.
672
00:40:10,388 --> 00:40:12,288
What was Carmine
gonna say about it?
673
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:15,450
He'd already lied under oath.
He was no threat to Timmons.
674
00:40:15,526 --> 00:40:18,461
You see, Elverson's still
got the better motive.
675
00:40:18,996 --> 00:40:21,658
The D.A.'s not gonna back off
on prosecuting him.
676
00:40:21,733 --> 00:40:24,531
Oh, God. Oh, God.
677
00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:26,494
I got to get out of here.
678
00:40:26,571 --> 00:40:27,560
Hubert, do not leave.
679
00:40:27,638 --> 00:40:28,935
Please, I just need some air.
680
00:40:29,006 --> 00:40:30,940
Now you know how Edie felt.
681
00:40:32,443 --> 00:40:34,604
Trapped, no way out.
682
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,409
We found that box with
your papers neatly arranged,
683
00:40:37,482 --> 00:40:39,074
the key to the safety deposit.
684
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:41,209
We know what you're
planning to do.
685
00:40:41,285 --> 00:40:43,048
And then what?
686
00:40:43,254 --> 00:40:46,018
Frank Elverson takes
the rap for killing Carmine?
687
00:40:46,791 --> 00:40:48,554
What about you wanting
to set things right?
688
00:40:48,626 --> 00:40:50,150
What, does that become
an empty gesture?
689
00:40:50,228 --> 00:40:52,287
You end up hurting
Edie's parents,
690
00:40:52,363 --> 00:40:54,228
the very people
you tried to help.
691
00:40:54,932 --> 00:40:56,627
I don't know what to do.
Yeah, you do.
692
00:40:56,701 --> 00:40:58,191
I don't know what to do.
Make things right!
693
00:40:58,269 --> 00:40:59,861
I tried, but look
what happened!
694
00:40:59,937 --> 00:41:02,770
You tried because you wanted
to be a good person.
695
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,637
Make things right.
Well, be a good person now.
696
00:41:04,709 --> 00:41:06,006
Hey, look at me!
697
00:41:09,347 --> 00:41:10,678
A good person, Hubert.
698
00:41:13,117 --> 00:41:14,778
Because you're
better than him.
699
00:41:14,852 --> 00:41:16,183
Oh, God.
700
00:41:20,625 --> 00:41:23,185
Be a good person.
You make things right.
701
00:41:32,570 --> 00:41:36,301
I put Carmine in that car.
702
00:41:38,576 --> 00:41:40,373
I knew what would
happen to him.
703
00:41:48,452 --> 00:41:50,886
You made him
one of your guys.
704
00:41:51,823 --> 00:41:56,317
He lied for you,
and so did I,
705
00:41:58,429 --> 00:42:00,090
until I couldn't.
706
00:42:05,570 --> 00:42:07,037
I couldn't...
707
00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:12,433
Okay, Hubert.
708
00:42:13,845 --> 00:42:14,937
Okay.
709
00:42:18,416 --> 00:42:20,384
Now you're under arrest.
710
00:42:26,157 --> 00:42:30,617
You use, you use, you use...
711
00:42:31,896 --> 00:42:37,425
Fifteen years I've watched you use
them up, all the Edies and Carmines.
712
00:42:38,269 --> 00:42:42,365
Well, no more.
No more! No more!
713
00:42:51,749 --> 00:42:53,740
I'll be talking to you,
Mr. Timmons.
714
00:42:53,818 --> 00:42:55,786
In the meantime, you might
familiarize yourself
715
00:42:55,853 --> 00:42:59,414
with such legal terms
as obstruction and perjury.
716
00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:13,125
Killing Carmine, he was
really killing himself.
717
00:43:13,838 --> 00:43:15,806
It's a step
he should've skipped.