1 00:00:03,259 --> 00:00:05,190 announcer: The following is a presentation 2 00:00:05,209 --> 00:00:07,139 of HBO Sports. 3 00:00:11,099 --> 00:00:14,080 [dramatic music] 4 00:00:14,099 --> 00:00:20,089 ♪ ♪ 5 00:00:20,109 --> 00:00:23,059 - Tonight, on "Real Sports," 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,230 the COVID-19 pandemic has introduced 7 00:00:25,250 --> 00:00:28,109 a number of new words into our medical lexicon. 8 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:30,260 One of them is long haulers, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,270 a term applied to those people stricken with the virus 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,270 who survive it, but are unable to recover. 11 00:00:36,289 --> 00:00:39,159 It's a group that includes a number of young athletes 12 00:00:39,179 --> 00:00:42,109 who now fear they'll never compete again. 13 00:00:42,130 --> 00:00:46,060 - I'm angry because they have no clue what is happening. 14 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:48,250 I just want hope. No one can give me hope. 15 00:00:48,270 --> 00:00:50,020 ♪ ♪ 16 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:51,200 - Last spring, the city of Minneapolis 17 00:00:51,219 --> 00:00:53,250 was the epicenter of national outrage 18 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:56,250 following the police killing of George Floyd. 19 00:00:56,270 --> 00:00:58,159 Caught in the maelstrom was the head coach 20 00:00:58,179 --> 00:01:01,119 of one of the city's best high school football teams, 21 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:03,250 a police officer who was on the front lines 22 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:05,120 the night the city burned. 23 00:01:05,140 --> 00:01:06,239 - As a Black cop, 24 00:01:06,260 --> 00:01:09,069 what was it like to be in the middle of that? 25 00:01:09,090 --> 00:01:12,079 - Man's it's the worst thing I've ever had to endure. 26 00:01:12,099 --> 00:01:14,239 Black and blue. 27 00:01:14,260 --> 00:01:16,260 I'm Black, but I wear blue. 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,260 "What side are you on now?" 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,010 ♪ ♪ 30 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:21,159 - In the world of track and field, 31 00:01:21,180 --> 00:01:24,140 the Nike Swoosh has been revered for decades, 32 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:28,120 but recently, several members of Nike's elite track program 33 00:01:28,140 --> 00:01:30,079 have triggered an investigation 34 00:01:30,099 --> 00:01:33,049 after claiming they were mentally and physically abused 35 00:01:33,069 --> 00:01:35,020 in ways that have left their careers 36 00:01:35,039 --> 00:01:36,270 and their lives in ruins. 37 00:01:36,289 --> 00:01:39,259 - What does the Nike Swoosh mean for you now? 38 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,219 - I think nothing. 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,049 Absolutely nothing. 40 00:01:43,069 --> 00:01:45,120 The truth is, 41 00:01:45,140 --> 00:01:48,049 they're a brand that wants to sell shoes 42 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:50,030 and they're gonna sell it with lies, 43 00:01:50,049 --> 00:01:51,200 they're gonna sell it with cheating, 44 00:01:51,219 --> 00:01:53,219 they're gonna sell it any way that they can. 45 00:01:53,240 --> 00:02:00,239 ♪ ♪ 46 00:02:03,209 --> 00:02:06,239 announcer: And now, your host, Bryant Gumbel. 47 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:08,199 ♪ ♪ 48 00:02:08,219 --> 00:02:10,139 - Good evening and welcome 49 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:13,189 to the start of our 27th season of "Real Sports." 50 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:16,020 Although this one is beginning as the last one ended-- 51 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:17,110 remotely-- 52 00:02:17,129 --> 00:02:19,289 we're hoping, like you, that as the year goes on, 53 00:02:20,009 --> 00:02:21,280 we'll find our way back to normal 54 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,170 and put the nightmares of the pandemic far behind us. 55 00:02:25,189 --> 00:02:28,229 Unfortunately, as you know, it is still very much with us. 56 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:32,170 The coronavirus has claimed over 400,000 American lives 57 00:02:32,189 --> 00:02:34,039 and continues to impact sports 58 00:02:34,060 --> 00:02:36,280 in ways that few could've imagined. 59 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,259 Although exact totals are hard to come by, 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,050 thousands of professional and collegiate athletes 61 00:02:41,069 --> 00:02:44,000 have already contracted the virus and been sidelined. 62 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:45,159 The overwhelming majority of them 63 00:02:45,180 --> 00:02:47,280 have thankfully returned to action, 64 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,189 but not all of them. 65 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:51,079 Despite surviving the disease, 66 00:02:51,099 --> 00:02:53,199 some who are now called long haulers 67 00:02:53,219 --> 00:02:56,009 have actually found their lives profoundly 68 00:02:56,030 --> 00:02:59,050 and perhaps permanently affected by COVID. 69 00:02:59,069 --> 00:03:01,060 Our Mary Carillo has that story. 70 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,240 ♪ ♪ 71 00:03:02,259 --> 00:03:04,030 - Keep it up. 72 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:06,069 - This was Natalie Hakala a year ago: 73 00:03:06,090 --> 00:03:07,219 an elite collegiate runner 74 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,250 training for the upcoming season, 75 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:11,289 the picture of physical health. 76 00:03:12,009 --> 00:03:13,090 - Good to go? 77 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:15,199 - This is Natalie Hakala today, 78 00:03:15,219 --> 00:03:18,079 six months after being diagnosed with COVID, 79 00:03:18,099 --> 00:03:21,159 a disease that took hold of her back in July 80 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:23,170 and never let go. 81 00:03:23,189 --> 00:03:26,030 - I always thought if I got it 82 00:03:26,050 --> 00:03:28,060 that I'd be sick for two weeks. 83 00:03:28,079 --> 00:03:29,240 Everyone says it's like the flu, 84 00:03:29,259 --> 00:03:33,150 so, like, you feel horrible for two weeks and then you're fine. 85 00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:35,280 - Hakala caught the virus on what she thought 86 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,270 was a safe camping trip with a few friends. 87 00:03:38,289 --> 00:03:40,270 She lost her sense of smell 88 00:03:40,289 --> 00:03:44,120 and rode out two weeks of piercing headaches and fevers 89 00:03:44,139 --> 00:03:46,069 at her home in Oregon. 90 00:03:46,090 --> 00:03:47,289 And then it was over-- 91 00:03:48,009 --> 00:03:49,199 or so she thought. 92 00:03:49,219 --> 00:03:51,020 - I was like, "Oh, I must be fine. 93 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:52,219 "Like, my fever's broken, 94 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,229 "I can kind of smell things again. 95 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:56,289 Perfect. I can go for a run." 96 00:03:57,009 --> 00:03:59,039 And I was so excited that I got to go for a run. 97 00:03:59,060 --> 00:04:04,060 And I made it, like, maybe 200 meters. 98 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,030 I'm just, like, gasping for air 99 00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:09,000 and... 100 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:11,169 I was like, "I cannot breathe." 101 00:04:11,189 --> 00:04:13,219 - Things went downhill from there. 102 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Hakala began experiencing searing chest pains 103 00:04:17,060 --> 00:04:19,129 and was rushed to the hospital. 104 00:04:19,149 --> 00:04:22,160 But while doctors monitored her for three days, 105 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:26,170 they couldn't figure out what was wrong or how to fix it. 106 00:04:26,189 --> 00:04:29,220 Hakala has not been able to run since. 107 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,069 In fact, the star athlete now rarely even walks, 108 00:04:33,090 --> 00:04:37,009 instead using a wheelchair or a motorized cart. 109 00:04:37,029 --> 00:04:41,000 But mostly, she just sits here in her parents' house... 110 00:04:41,019 --> 00:04:43,199 - This is just kind of my little area. 111 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:46,100 - And copes with her lingering symptoms 112 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,019 which she chronicles here in her journal. 113 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,029 It's the same journal she once used 114 00:04:51,050 --> 00:04:53,050 to chart her progress on the track. 115 00:04:53,069 --> 00:04:55,209 - I saved all my hip numbers. 116 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:57,069 This is my one from Nebraska 117 00:04:57,090 --> 00:04:59,050 and I wrote about all the races I did, 118 00:04:59,069 --> 00:05:01,209 but it quickly turned into a symptom tracker. 119 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:04,180 8/11: I can't walk without shortness of breath. 120 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:07,180 On September 3rd, I wrote, "Hard day, headache, 121 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:11,050 "showered and sat on the ground for a very long time 122 00:05:11,069 --> 00:05:13,009 "because I had a hard time breathing 123 00:05:13,029 --> 00:05:15,060 and I felt really dizzy and lightheaded." 124 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:19,050 - Is there any part of you that you allow to think, 125 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:21,259 you know, "Why the hell did this happen to me?" 126 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,100 - Yes, especially on the days when I'm in a lot of pain 127 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,160 because I just-- 128 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:29,139 on those days, I'm just laying on the couch 129 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,129 and just almost kind of like a feeling of, like, 130 00:05:31,149 --> 00:05:34,079 I'm wallowing in self-pity, which is just sad. 131 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:36,170 And hopefully, I serve as a warning. 132 00:05:36,189 --> 00:05:39,040 I mean, they focus so heavily on the deaths, 133 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:43,000 but this can harm more than just two weeks or death. 134 00:05:43,019 --> 00:05:44,129 It seems like those are the two options. 135 00:05:44,149 --> 00:05:46,110 Either two weeks or it's death 136 00:05:46,129 --> 00:05:48,279 and I'm an in-betweener. 137 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,110 - Natalie Hakala is one of a growing number 138 00:05:51,129 --> 00:05:54,139 of COVID patients becoming known as long haulers, 139 00:05:54,159 --> 00:05:56,139 those who didn't die from the virus 140 00:05:56,159 --> 00:05:58,220 but also never fully recovered, 141 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,139 their bodies now crippled by a range of symptoms 142 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,250 including debilitating fatigue, difficulty breathing, 143 00:06:04,269 --> 00:06:07,000 brain fog, and vertigo. 144 00:06:07,019 --> 00:06:09,029 Many of the long haulers are athletes-- 145 00:06:09,050 --> 00:06:10,180 or were athletes, 146 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:12,259 now robbed of their life's passion. 147 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,189 - It's just--it's so difficult. 148 00:06:14,209 --> 00:06:17,269 It's so difficult to see the level of frustration 149 00:06:17,290 --> 00:06:19,199 that individuals have with their symptoms, 150 00:06:19,220 --> 00:06:21,089 with their body, holding them back. 151 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:24,180 - Dr. Emily Brigham runs a clinic for long haulers 152 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:26,139 at the Johns Hopkins Hospital. 153 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,199 Can you give any of your patients a timetable 154 00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:32,019 as to when they will feel better? 155 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,240 - [sighs] That's the toughest question 156 00:06:33,259 --> 00:06:36,069 and it's even harder to answer for patients. 157 00:06:36,090 --> 00:06:39,110 I cannot tell an individual patient 158 00:06:39,129 --> 00:06:41,220 when they will recover. 159 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,170 - That's not what they want to hear. 160 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:44,180 - No, it's not. 161 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:46,060 It's not what I would want to hear. 162 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:48,159 - Have you had to tell your patients 163 00:06:48,180 --> 00:06:51,230 that they may never feel as good as they used to feel? 164 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:54,240 - Yeah. 165 00:06:54,259 --> 00:06:55,240 I say, you know, there's a chance 166 00:06:55,259 --> 00:06:57,209 that this may not go away. 167 00:06:57,230 --> 00:07:00,230 - In fact, doctors can say very little with certainty 168 00:07:00,250 --> 00:07:02,230 about long hauler syndrome. 169 00:07:02,250 --> 00:07:05,069 Nearly a year into the pandemic, 170 00:07:05,089 --> 00:07:07,110 experts remain baffled as to why 171 00:07:07,129 --> 00:07:10,019 some COVID patients never get better, 172 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,279 how to best treat them, and why, mysteriously, 173 00:07:14,009 --> 00:07:16,290 the majority of them appear to be women. 174 00:07:17,009 --> 00:07:18,209 - We're still trying to figure it out 175 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:22,170 and it's one of the most frustrating things 176 00:07:22,189 --> 00:07:25,129 for patients, but also for physicians. 177 00:07:25,149 --> 00:07:27,000 We're here because we want to help 178 00:07:27,019 --> 00:07:29,110 and when we don't know what's going on, 179 00:07:29,129 --> 00:07:30,250 it's very hard to help. 180 00:07:30,269 --> 00:07:34,209 - I'm angry because they have no clue what is happening. 181 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:37,100 I just want hope. No one can give me hope. 182 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,250 - Until recently, 183 00:07:38,269 --> 00:07:42,100 Nicole Knudson had never known life without hockey. 184 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,060 Growing up, she played the sport year-round, 185 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,199 working on her wrist shot in the summers 186 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:51,009 and skating around her backyard rink in the winters. 187 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:52,170 - I had dreams of playing in the NHL 188 00:07:52,189 --> 00:07:54,029 when I was really young. [chuckles] 189 00:07:54,050 --> 00:07:56,120 - How old were you when you first picked up a hockey stick? 190 00:07:56,139 --> 00:07:57,259 - Five or six. 191 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:00,120 My brother had played and my dad coached and I'm, like, 192 00:08:00,139 --> 00:08:03,069 watching in the stands, I'm like, "I have to do that." 193 00:08:03,089 --> 00:08:06,189 - Knudson became an all-state player in high school 194 00:08:06,209 --> 00:08:10,069 and led her team to the Illinois state championship. 195 00:08:10,089 --> 00:08:12,240 - [indistinct shouting] 196 00:08:12,259 --> 00:08:15,170 It was, by far, the best experience ever 197 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:18,029 holding that trophy above my head. 198 00:08:18,050 --> 00:08:21,000 I would give anything to go back and do that again. 199 00:08:21,019 --> 00:08:25,230 - Instead, Knudson now spends her days not at the rink, 200 00:08:25,250 --> 00:08:27,259 but in doctor's offices 201 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:30,240 being treated for crippling joint and neck pain, 202 00:08:30,259 --> 00:08:33,100 vomiting, and fainting spells 203 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,159 a full six months after her diagnosis of COVID. 204 00:08:37,179 --> 00:08:39,029 - There's days where I just feel like 205 00:08:39,049 --> 00:08:41,279 I cannot do anything anymore. 206 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,149 - When she tried to work out one day in the preseason 207 00:08:44,169 --> 00:08:46,080 with her college hockey team, 208 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:49,039 she found she couldn't even endure the warmups. 209 00:08:49,059 --> 00:08:53,169 - My heart rate would spike to 160 210 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:55,230 just barely doing anything 211 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:57,039 and I was like, "What? 212 00:08:57,059 --> 00:08:58,120 "Like, what? What's happening? 213 00:08:58,139 --> 00:09:00,179 Like, why is this so difficult for me?" 214 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,230 And I talked to the team doctor. 215 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:06,070 She was saying how it's not worth it 216 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:08,250 to push my body to this kind of limit. 217 00:09:08,269 --> 00:09:10,240 - And the work ethos of an athlete 218 00:09:10,259 --> 00:09:12,139 is that you tough it out. 219 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:13,200 - Yeah. - You push through. 220 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:15,000 - And that's what I wanted to do. 221 00:09:15,019 --> 00:09:16,129 I was like, "Let me push through, like, 222 00:09:16,149 --> 00:09:18,110 let me--it's okay if my heart rate gets up there." 223 00:09:18,129 --> 00:09:21,009 And they're like, "No, it's not okay, Nicole." 224 00:09:21,029 --> 00:09:23,289 And, um, that was hard to hear. 225 00:09:24,009 --> 00:09:25,129 - Making matters worse, 226 00:09:25,149 --> 00:09:28,080 blood work and scans on Knudson's body 227 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:31,250 have failed to uncover any underlying health issues, 228 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:35,159 leaving doctors vexed as to how to help her. 229 00:09:35,179 --> 00:09:37,220 - And I'm like, "Okay, like, they're gonna find something." 230 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,009 And no, nothing. 231 00:09:41,029 --> 00:09:43,129 I'm at the point where I want something to show up, 232 00:09:43,149 --> 00:09:46,100 and I don't care, I just want to know 233 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,179 that this is what is doing this to my body 234 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,100 and if I can help it, how can I? 235 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,039 What can I do to make myself even feel a little bit better? 236 00:09:54,059 --> 00:09:56,200 - Little bit normal? - Yeah. 237 00:09:56,220 --> 00:09:59,190 - Just how many COVID patients will turn into long haulers 238 00:09:59,210 --> 00:10:01,059 is still unknown, 239 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,009 but the syndrome could have troubling implications 240 00:10:04,029 --> 00:10:07,059 not just for amateur athletes and weekend warriors, 241 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,000 but for those hoping to make sports their career. 242 00:10:10,019 --> 00:10:13,000 - Clemson University says 28 student athletes 243 00:10:13,019 --> 00:10:16,279 and staff members have tested positive for the coronavirus. 244 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,220 - Over the past six months, 245 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,039 hundreds of big-time college athletes, 246 00:10:21,059 --> 00:10:23,149 many of them aspiring professionals, 247 00:10:23,169 --> 00:10:25,269 have tested positive for COVID 248 00:10:25,289 --> 00:10:28,039 after schools summoned their players together 249 00:10:28,059 --> 00:10:30,029 at the height of the pandemic. 250 00:10:30,049 --> 00:10:31,210 At some schools, 251 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:35,139 nearly the entire football team was diagnosed with COVID. 252 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:36,289 - I think not all of our players, 253 00:10:37,009 --> 00:10:38,259 but most of our players have caught it. 254 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:42,120 - At others, the virus swept through the basketball team. 255 00:10:42,139 --> 00:10:44,009 - 90% of our team's had it. 256 00:10:44,029 --> 00:10:45,179 [chuckling] So, um... 257 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,059 - For those young athletes, 258 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,100 it may become no laughing matter. 259 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,019 They can already look to a cautionary tale... 260 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:54,279 - Oh, what a pretty move! 261 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,190 - A young pro athlete whose career could be over 262 00:10:57,210 --> 00:10:59,259 before it ever really began. 263 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:03,159 Asia Durr with the spin move! Oh, oh, my! 264 00:11:03,179 --> 00:11:07,129 - Last year, Asia Durr made her debut in the WNBA 265 00:11:07,149 --> 00:11:10,000 with dreams of a long future in the sport. 266 00:11:10,019 --> 00:11:12,059 - Asia Durr! 267 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,159 - But today, her goals are more modest. 268 00:11:15,179 --> 00:11:18,080 - There's days where I feel great, 269 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:22,080 like I could go out and go to the store or I could clean up. 270 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:23,190 And then there's days where I'm like, 271 00:11:23,210 --> 00:11:25,139 "I just have to stay in the bed." 272 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:29,100 And it's just like you just feel like you get hit by a bus. 273 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,070 - You just said, "Some days, I feel great. 274 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:34,120 I can go to the store and clean." 275 00:11:34,139 --> 00:11:36,149 That's your idea of a great day now? 276 00:11:36,169 --> 00:11:40,120 - My life has completely changed since June 8th. 277 00:11:40,139 --> 00:11:43,110 - Since the day she was diagnosed with COVID 278 00:11:43,129 --> 00:11:46,200 nearly eight months ago, Durr has been fighting 279 00:11:46,220 --> 00:11:49,159 a losing battle with the disease. 280 00:11:49,179 --> 00:11:51,269 - I was back and forth seeing doctors, hospitals, 281 00:11:51,289 --> 00:11:53,100 stuff like that. 282 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,049 I couldn't breathe, I was spitting up blood. 283 00:11:55,070 --> 00:11:58,000 - Y-you were spitting up blood? - Yeah. 284 00:11:58,019 --> 00:12:01,080 You know, it's just lung pain that was just so severe 285 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:03,240 it felt like somebody took a long knife 286 00:12:03,259 --> 00:12:07,000 and was just stabbing you in your lungs each second. 287 00:12:07,019 --> 00:12:10,080 I woke up 2:00 in the morning vomiting, 288 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:12,279 going back and forth to the bathroom. 289 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,230 I couldn't keep anything down. 290 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:17,019 - How much weight have you lost? 291 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,289 - I've lost 32 pounds. 292 00:12:20,009 --> 00:12:21,250 - Durr was too sick to play 293 00:12:21,269 --> 00:12:24,049 for the Liberty at all this past season. 294 00:12:24,070 --> 00:12:27,159 And though she had a contract to play in France after that, 295 00:12:27,179 --> 00:12:30,190 the 23-year-old had to miss that season too. 296 00:12:30,210 --> 00:12:32,230 But perhaps worst of all, 297 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:38,009 Durr has no idea when or if she'll ever heal. 298 00:12:38,029 --> 00:12:39,190 When was the last time you picked up a ball 299 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:43,169 and tried to test your body after COVID? 300 00:12:45,210 --> 00:12:48,000 - I haven't. I haven't been able to. 301 00:12:48,019 --> 00:12:49,230 It's really challenging for me, 302 00:12:49,250 --> 00:12:53,090 but I've talked to doctors and... 303 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:56,070 they've told me, you know, I'm not clear yet. 304 00:12:56,090 --> 00:12:59,200 I'm not clear to be able to do anything physically 305 00:12:59,220 --> 00:13:04,120 which could cause flare-ups, what they call it. 306 00:13:04,139 --> 00:13:06,259 And that's what's really hard for me 307 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:08,100 because in life, 308 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,230 whenever something was, like, hard, I would go and play. 309 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:13,049 I can't even do that now. 310 00:13:13,070 --> 00:13:15,210 I can't even shoot a free throw. 311 00:13:15,230 --> 00:13:17,269 - Does it make you wonder 312 00:13:17,289 --> 00:13:21,220 if you're ever gonna be able to play basketball? 313 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,029 - Yeah. 314 00:13:23,049 --> 00:13:25,129 That question has definitely crossed my mind 315 00:13:25,149 --> 00:13:26,220 plenty of times. 316 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,120 And then that's when I, you know, give it to God. 317 00:13:31,139 --> 00:13:33,279 - There's a period of grief that you have to go through 318 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,279 for what's happened to your body 319 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,210 and that grief takes time, 320 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:40,070 it takes mourning, it takes acceptance, 321 00:13:40,090 --> 00:13:42,169 and hopefully, it's not acceptance that has to stay. 322 00:13:42,190 --> 00:13:45,070 We want to make you well again, but in some cases, 323 00:13:45,090 --> 00:13:47,169 we just--we don't know what's going to happen. 324 00:13:47,190 --> 00:13:51,129 - The last few days, I've had a lot more palpitations. 325 00:13:51,149 --> 00:13:53,200 My heart started pounding really, really fast 326 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:55,029 and I was just-- 327 00:13:55,049 --> 00:13:56,259 - For Natalie Hakala, the collegiate runner, 328 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:59,159 the latest worry is the health of her heart. 329 00:13:59,179 --> 00:14:02,159 A recently MRI raised some concerns, 330 00:14:02,179 --> 00:14:05,059 so she's been sent to cardiac rehab 331 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,049 once a week alongside far older patients, 332 00:14:09,070 --> 00:14:10,269 many of whom are trying to recover 333 00:14:10,289 --> 00:14:12,190 from open-heart surgery, 334 00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:15,230 Hakala works to recover from COVID. 335 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:17,289 - I get stopped a lot by other patients of, "Oh--" 336 00:14:18,009 --> 00:14:20,259 I get the, "Oh, you're so young." 337 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:23,009 They go, "Did you have surgery too?" 338 00:14:23,029 --> 00:14:24,210 And I go, "No, I did not." 339 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:27,029 - Do you tell them, "No, I had COVID"? 340 00:14:27,049 --> 00:14:29,200 - I do. Mm-hmm. 341 00:14:29,220 --> 00:14:31,190 They look at me like I'm a little weird sometimes, 342 00:14:31,210 --> 00:14:32,190 but it's okay. 343 00:14:32,210 --> 00:14:34,070 At least they know. 344 00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:38,049 - Hakala's rehab therapist won't allow her to run. 345 00:14:38,070 --> 00:14:40,129 She's only allowed to walk, 346 00:14:40,149 --> 00:14:42,000 slowly. 347 00:14:42,019 --> 00:14:43,230 How much has Natalie advanced 348 00:14:43,250 --> 00:14:46,129 since she's been hooked up to your machines? 349 00:14:46,149 --> 00:14:50,049 - I think we started at, like, not even two miles per hour. 350 00:14:50,070 --> 00:14:52,000 So today, we're up to 2.8, 351 00:14:52,019 --> 00:14:55,190 which I'd say an average person her age, 352 00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:57,149 walking through a park with friends, 353 00:14:57,169 --> 00:15:00,000 their casual walking pace is 2.8, 354 00:15:00,019 --> 00:15:02,179 but we've worked her up to 2.8. 355 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,080 - For a young woman used to moving in a hurry, 356 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:07,179 it hardly feels like success. 357 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,200 But for Hakala, becoming a COVID long hauler 358 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:13,159 has required a full recalibration 359 00:15:13,179 --> 00:15:15,289 of both body and mind. 360 00:15:16,009 --> 00:15:17,269 - I have realized 361 00:15:17,289 --> 00:15:21,019 that I can't really put a time goal on it 362 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:22,149 'cause I just get very disappointed 363 00:15:22,169 --> 00:15:23,230 when I don't reach it. 364 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:27,070 - How much, Natalie, have your goals shifted? 365 00:15:27,090 --> 00:15:30,179 You used to want to change the school record. 366 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,289 What are your goals now? 367 00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:37,070 - To go for just a jog would be really nice. 368 00:15:37,090 --> 00:15:39,090 I would love to be able to go for a run. 369 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:41,230 ♪ ♪ 370 00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:43,049 - And Mary Carillo's coming to us 371 00:15:43,070 --> 00:15:44,259 from the other coast of Florida this morning. 372 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:46,049 Hey, Mary. How you doing? 373 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:47,120 - I'm fine, Bryant, 374 00:15:47,139 --> 00:15:48,289 but I have never been more afraid of COVID 375 00:15:49,009 --> 00:15:50,179 after doing this story for you. 376 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,179 - I guess so. 377 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,169 I mean, look. 378 00:15:52,190 --> 00:15:54,190 Clearly, doctors have no answers, 379 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:57,100 but what do they think is going on? 380 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,169 - Well, it's one of those viruses 381 00:15:58,190 --> 00:16:01,039 that's not unlike the SARS virus 382 00:16:01,059 --> 00:16:04,230 that plagued, back in 2003, China and Canada. 383 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:06,179 Same sort of genetic code. 384 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,240 But there were only 8,000, you know, cases of SARS. 385 00:16:09,259 --> 00:16:12,019 This is millions of people and the problem is 386 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:15,129 even after the vaccine gets around to the planet, 387 00:16:15,149 --> 00:16:16,190 all these long haulers 388 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:19,070 will still have to suffer the effects of it. 389 00:16:19,090 --> 00:16:20,200 - Mary, I'm confused. 390 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:24,039 Hundreds, maybe even thousands of college and pro guys 391 00:16:24,059 --> 00:16:26,190 playing football and basketball have had COVID, 392 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:28,139 but we've not heard of a single one 393 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:30,139 who's been similarly impaired. 394 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:31,179 Why not? 395 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,190 - Well, it's hard to know. 396 00:16:33,210 --> 00:16:37,250 I mean, in the story, Dr. Brigham from Johns Hopkins 397 00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:40,279 says that many more women have come forward 398 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,029 to say that they're long haulers 399 00:16:43,049 --> 00:16:45,289 and that could be hormonal or it could be the fact that 400 00:16:46,009 --> 00:16:49,259 men aren't talking about it the way that women are. 401 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,070 - Mary, I don't want this question 402 00:16:51,090 --> 00:16:53,100 to sound like an accusation, 403 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,049 but when the doctor told you 404 00:16:55,070 --> 00:16:59,009 that those stricken athletes need a "period of grief," 405 00:16:59,029 --> 00:17:02,220 was she suggesting their woes could be psychosomatic? 406 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,220 - No. 407 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,059 What she's basically saying, 408 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:07,069 what a lot of long haulers are being told 409 00:17:07,089 --> 00:17:09,220 is we may never get you all the way back. 410 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,150 Not with the lung scarring, not with the inflamed heart, 411 00:17:12,170 --> 00:17:14,240 not the blood clots. 412 00:17:14,259 --> 00:17:16,000 That's really, I think, 413 00:17:16,019 --> 00:17:17,109 what she's saying more than anything. 414 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:20,059 And again, that's why I find COVID to be so scary. 415 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:22,029 - Yeah. Another scary aspect of it. 416 00:17:22,049 --> 00:17:23,089 All right, Mary, thanks so very much. 417 00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:24,200 You stay safe, okay? 418 00:17:24,220 --> 00:17:26,049 - All right. 419 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:29,059 - We move on. 420 00:17:29,079 --> 00:17:31,210 While the pandemic continues to plague America, 421 00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:33,089 so too do the ongoing problems 422 00:17:33,109 --> 00:17:36,160 of social justice and police brutality. 423 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:38,190 The racial reckoning spawned by the police murder 424 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:41,109 of George Floyd last spring was, as you know, 425 00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:43,109 rooted in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 426 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:45,160 a diverse city that has long been home 427 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,140 to man named Charles Adams. 428 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,059 As both a cop and a coach, 429 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:52,119 Adams is the central figure in our second story tonight, 430 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,009 a story about how difficult it can be these days 431 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:57,160 to be Black and blue in America. 432 00:17:57,180 --> 00:18:01,150 Jon Frankel has our report. 433 00:18:01,170 --> 00:18:03,150 - Polars with the ball. 434 00:18:03,170 --> 00:18:05,289 - It's more than just a great team. 435 00:18:06,009 --> 00:18:07,049 It's a dynasty... 436 00:18:07,069 --> 00:18:10,170 - To the endzone-- it is caught! 437 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:12,160 Touchdown. [cheers and applause] 438 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:13,259 - Which once went six years 439 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:16,160 without losing a single regular season game. 440 00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:20,109 - And all the way in for a Polars touchdown! 441 00:18:20,130 --> 00:18:21,180 - But the football program 442 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,259 at North High School in Minneapolis 443 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:25,250 is also a lot more than that. 444 00:18:25,269 --> 00:18:28,089 In one of the toughest parts of the city, 445 00:18:28,109 --> 00:18:30,160 beset by drugs and violence, 446 00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:32,279 it's the rare source of local pride 447 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,160 and in some cases, 448 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:38,019 the only thing keeping kids on the straight and narrow. 449 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:39,289 If there's no football in this community, 450 00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:43,279 what happens to the kids that are playing for you? 451 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,240 - Gang wars, 452 00:18:45,259 --> 00:18:48,089 shootings, car thefts, 453 00:18:48,109 --> 00:18:49,230 probably drug dealing. 454 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:52,000 And a lot of these kids would probably fall victim to that 455 00:18:52,019 --> 00:18:54,029 because they wouldn't have anything to do. 456 00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:57,140 - Charles Adams is the man who's given them another way. 457 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,140 He's the head coach at North High, 458 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,109 the man who made this team and this community into winners, 459 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:04,230 earning the love of players 460 00:19:04,250 --> 00:19:07,019 and their families along the way. 461 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:09,210 - Hey, I'm so proud of y'all, man. 462 00:19:09,230 --> 00:19:13,180 - But Adams has another job, too, and last May, 463 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,190 it cast the local hero in a very different role: 464 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:18,079 enemy of the people. 465 00:19:18,099 --> 00:19:20,069 all: No justice, no peace! 466 00:19:20,089 --> 00:19:22,289 - It happened after the death of George Floyd 467 00:19:23,009 --> 00:19:25,140 under the knee of a city police officer. 468 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,059 Lines formed in the street 469 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:30,019 as angry protesters looted and burned 470 00:19:30,039 --> 00:19:32,210 and riot police braced for the worst, 471 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:35,289 among them Officer Charles Adams. 472 00:19:36,009 --> 00:19:39,019 When you looked into the faces of those people 473 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:41,039 who were throwing things and yelling things, 474 00:19:41,059 --> 00:19:42,230 what did you see? 475 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:45,170 - Disappointment, 476 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:47,009 people fed up. 477 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:49,190 People are tired of Black people being treated 478 00:19:49,210 --> 00:19:52,049 the way they are by police officers. 479 00:19:52,069 --> 00:19:55,009 - You understood the anger? - I understood the anger. 480 00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:56,279 I do. I do. 481 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,130 I do. 482 00:19:58,150 --> 00:20:01,200 - Adams says that in his 20 years on the police force, 483 00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:05,009 he'd never been so conflicted or so afraid. 484 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:06,130 What are you thinking? 485 00:20:06,150 --> 00:20:09,150 - They're gonna kill us. 486 00:20:09,170 --> 00:20:11,180 We're gonna get killed, man. 487 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,029 People were throwing stuff at us, hiding from me, 488 00:20:14,049 --> 00:20:15,160 or I'm hearing shots. 489 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:17,180 I don't know where it's coming from. 490 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,039 - Did they say things to you? 491 00:20:19,059 --> 00:20:20,160 - "Pigs," 492 00:20:20,180 --> 00:20:22,150 "eff the police," 493 00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:24,089 "racists," 494 00:20:24,109 --> 00:20:26,019 "How could you work for them?" 495 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:27,180 and, "You should be ashamed of yourself." 496 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,160 - As a Black cop, 497 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:32,069 what was it like to be in the middle of that? 498 00:20:32,089 --> 00:20:35,089 - Man, it's the worst thing I've ever had to endure. 499 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:36,190 I was caught in the middle. 500 00:20:36,210 --> 00:20:38,150 - This was the perfect illustration 501 00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:40,089 of the intersections in your life. 502 00:20:40,109 --> 00:20:42,250 - [chuckles] Absolutely. 503 00:20:42,269 --> 00:20:44,240 Absolutely. 504 00:20:44,259 --> 00:20:47,170 Black and blue. 505 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:50,099 I'm Black, but I wear blue. 506 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,039 And it's, "Well, now-- what side are you on now?" 507 00:20:54,059 --> 00:20:58,029 - Adams had been both Black and blue his entire life. 508 00:20:58,049 --> 00:21:01,140 As a boy, he idolized a police officer, 509 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,089 his father, Commander Charles Adams, 510 00:21:04,109 --> 00:21:06,039 and says that he and his friends 511 00:21:06,059 --> 00:21:08,049 saw the cops as allies. 512 00:21:08,069 --> 00:21:09,230 - When we seen a squad car, 513 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:12,109 we're waving 'em down 'cause we wanted to get football cards. 514 00:21:12,130 --> 00:21:13,210 Sometimes, 515 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:15,079 they'd give us the packs with the bubble gum in 'em. 516 00:21:15,099 --> 00:21:17,009 - They were your friends? - Yeah, they were our friends. 517 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:19,009 And every time I seen an officer, 518 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:21,119 the first thing I say, "Hey, you know my dad? 519 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:22,250 You know my dad?" 520 00:21:22,269 --> 00:21:24,140 - And when Adams grew up, 521 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,019 he followed his dad onto the force. 522 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:29,140 He says he wanted to become the kind of cop 523 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,119 he'd admired as a boy, 524 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:34,200 the kind the young men in town could see as a role model, 525 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:36,029 not a threat... 526 00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:39,049 - You gotta be disciplined, you gotta stay physical... 527 00:21:39,069 --> 00:21:42,069 - Which is why he decided to return to his alma mater, 528 00:21:42,089 --> 00:21:46,019 North High, and moonlight as the school's football coach. 529 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:47,190 Never mind that the team 530 00:21:47,210 --> 00:21:49,269 had long been one of the worst in the state 531 00:21:49,289 --> 00:21:51,269 with losing records every year 532 00:21:51,289 --> 00:21:54,190 and little interest from the boys at school. 533 00:21:54,210 --> 00:21:56,180 - My first year as a head coach, 534 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,289 I had 15 dudes on the team. 535 00:21:59,009 --> 00:22:01,269 I literally had to go get the names of the kids 536 00:22:01,289 --> 00:22:03,039 and start knocking on their doors 537 00:22:03,059 --> 00:22:05,109 and tell 'em to come to practice the next day. 538 00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:06,289 - You went door-to-door to try to recruit kids 539 00:22:07,009 --> 00:22:08,099 to come out for football? 540 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,190 - Yeah, that's probably why some kids didn't come, 541 00:22:10,210 --> 00:22:12,109 because they seen the police at the door. 542 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:13,220 [chuckles] 543 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,130 Now it's like who's gonna be man enough 544 00:22:15,150 --> 00:22:18,000 to step up on defense and make a stop? 545 00:22:18,019 --> 00:22:20,150 - Eventually, enough boys came out to play 546 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,180 and when they did, they got a surprise. 547 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,079 Adams had begun enlisting other cops on the force 548 00:22:26,099 --> 00:22:27,289 to help him coach. 549 00:22:28,009 --> 00:22:30,200 How many police officers do you have on your staff? 550 00:22:30,220 --> 00:22:32,089 - Three other police officers. 551 00:22:32,109 --> 00:22:34,099 My father, who's a commander, 552 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,079 and then Rick Plunkett, who's our co-offensive coordinator, 553 00:22:37,099 --> 00:22:39,259 and Tim Lawrence, and he's our offensive line coach. 554 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:44,099 - Do the cops make for good coaches? 555 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,200 - I think we've got some pretty good ones that are cops, 556 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:48,180 so I would say yeah. 557 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,089 - If the presence of police officers is a good thing, 558 00:22:51,109 --> 00:22:52,190 tell me how. 559 00:22:52,210 --> 00:22:56,180 - Establishing healthy and positive relationships 560 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,250 is important for these kids 561 00:22:58,269 --> 00:23:02,000 and having a adult that they can trust. 562 00:23:02,019 --> 00:23:04,049 - If you want your kids to trust adults 563 00:23:04,069 --> 00:23:07,069 but then that adult is a police officer, 564 00:23:07,089 --> 00:23:08,200 is it a mixed bag? 565 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:09,279 - It is. It is. 566 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,009 But you gotta understand, just as we talk about, 567 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:14,200 like, you know, racism, 568 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:17,119 you can't paint everything with a broad brush. 569 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:19,140 - Officers Tim Lawrence and Rick Plunkett 570 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,289 work with the offense 571 00:23:21,009 --> 00:23:24,130 while Commander Charles Adams works with the defense. 572 00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:27,069 - It gives us the opportunity to work with these young folks. 573 00:23:27,089 --> 00:23:29,019 When they see us on the street, they know, 574 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:30,099 "Oh, there go Coach." 575 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,250 It ain't officer-this, it's Coach, you know? 576 00:23:32,269 --> 00:23:34,119 - They need something to be positive about 577 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:36,210 and this field, this school, 578 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:38,250 us as coaches, us as people, 579 00:23:38,269 --> 00:23:42,220 it brings a bright spot to the kids and to the community. 580 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,039 - Tim, I don't have to point out 581 00:23:44,059 --> 00:23:45,240 the obvious differences here. [chuckling] 582 00:23:45,259 --> 00:23:48,069 You're the white guy coming to this school 583 00:23:48,089 --> 00:23:51,049 and a team that is predominantly Black. 584 00:23:51,069 --> 00:23:52,109 Was that gonna make it more difficult 585 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:53,119 for you to be a coach? 586 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:54,200 - Yeah, definitely. 587 00:23:54,220 --> 00:23:57,009 I remember walking on the first day of practice 588 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:58,099 and all these kids turn around like, 589 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,079 "Who the heck is this dude?" you know, 590 00:24:00,099 --> 00:24:01,140 and I had to prove myself. 591 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,259 - Y'all gotta start being physical, man. 592 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:05,210 - Coach Adams says he also felt 593 00:24:05,230 --> 00:24:07,259 he had to prove himself to the kids, 594 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:10,230 which is why he didn't just sign on to run the team, 595 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:13,039 he also requested a transfer 596 00:24:13,059 --> 00:24:14,289 to go from patrolling the streets 597 00:24:15,009 --> 00:24:17,140 to being stationed inside the school 598 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,220 so he could keep an eye on his players all the time. 599 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,160 - Being a cop that works in the school? 600 00:24:23,180 --> 00:24:26,289 Every teacher, just come down to my office 601 00:24:27,009 --> 00:24:30,069 and say, "Such-and-such is doing this-and-that. 602 00:24:30,089 --> 00:24:32,039 Can you take care of 'em?" 603 00:24:32,059 --> 00:24:34,059 Like, "Absolutely, I got 'em. 604 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:36,019 I'll be talking to them today at practice." 605 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:37,130 - Means they're on a short leash. 606 00:24:37,150 --> 00:24:38,130 - Yes. 607 00:24:38,150 --> 00:24:39,250 I'm not just here 608 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,099 to make sure these kids can score touchdowns, 609 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,180 I wanna make sure these kids are well-rounded, young men. 610 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,289 Then they end up coming back to me 611 00:24:47,009 --> 00:24:49,269 and giving back to this community the same way. 612 00:24:49,289 --> 00:24:52,240 - Adams and the other coaches began schooling the kids-- 613 00:24:52,259 --> 00:24:56,049 not just about X's and O's, but about life. 614 00:24:56,069 --> 00:24:58,089 - We had a kid who-- his grades are not good 615 00:24:58,109 --> 00:25:01,190 and I pulled him aside and I said, "Hey, man. 616 00:25:01,210 --> 00:25:04,200 I grew up in public housing. Mom was on welfare." 617 00:25:04,220 --> 00:25:06,190 I said, "I went to school, I was able to go to college, 618 00:25:06,210 --> 00:25:09,039 I was able to do all that, so don't use that as a excuse." 619 00:25:09,059 --> 00:25:10,190 I said, "You're not gonna be successful 620 00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:12,180 if you don't graduate from high school." 621 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,250 And then when I was done, I told him I loved him. 622 00:25:14,269 --> 00:25:16,039 - And before long, 623 00:25:16,059 --> 00:25:18,099 the lessons began to take root. 624 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 More and more players stayed in school 625 00:25:20,140 --> 00:25:23,180 and more and more losses turned into wins 626 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,109 until the Minneapolis North Polars 627 00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:27,210 went from the worst team in town 628 00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:30,000 to the best team in the state. 629 00:25:30,019 --> 00:25:32,009 - State championship trophy. 630 00:25:32,029 --> 00:25:33,269 They're the first group of Minneapolis North 631 00:25:33,289 --> 00:25:36,119 football players ever to hoist one of those. 632 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:39,079 - More players graduated than ever before 633 00:25:39,099 --> 00:25:41,200 and many went on to play in college. 634 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:43,000 And along the way, 635 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:45,029 the program overcame a situation 636 00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:46,230 that threatened to divide it 637 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:49,170 and the Minneapolis community as a whole. 638 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:52,069 In 2018, offensive line coach 639 00:25:52,089 --> 00:25:54,069 Tim Lawrence responded to a complaint 640 00:25:54,089 --> 00:25:56,039 that a woman had gotten into a dispute 641 00:25:56,059 --> 00:25:57,170 with a bus driver. 642 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:03,130 - After Lawrence and the woman got off the bus, 643 00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:07,140 he decided to place her under arrest for disorderly conduct. 644 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,140 But when a bystander intervened, 645 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,170 the situation escalated 646 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:14,140 and the ugly aftermath was caught on video. 647 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,119 - He's hurting her! - Get on the ground. 648 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,000 - He's fucking hurting her! - Stop, stop! 649 00:26:18,019 --> 00:26:20,119 - Get on the ground. - He's twisting her arm! 650 00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:22,009 - The video went viral 651 00:26:22,029 --> 00:26:24,200 and some objected to Lawrence's actions, 652 00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:26,289 even calling for his job. 653 00:26:27,009 --> 00:26:29,250 Lawrence was officially cleared of any wrongdoing 654 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:32,250 and the charges against the woman were later dropped, 655 00:26:32,269 --> 00:26:36,069 but the incident stoked racial tensions around the city. 656 00:26:36,089 --> 00:26:38,039 - To be in a viral video? 657 00:26:38,059 --> 00:26:40,029 It's the worst thing that's ever happened to me. 658 00:26:40,049 --> 00:26:42,119 I'm the opposite of what people think 659 00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:44,099 of what police officers are. 660 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,029 - I'm sure there are people that saw that video 661 00:26:46,049 --> 00:26:49,250 and they'll say, "He didn't have to do that. 662 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:52,210 He didn't have to pull her arm up behind her back." 663 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:55,289 - I got 360 voicemails and, like, 500-and-some emails 664 00:26:56,009 --> 00:26:58,210 that asked exactly that. 665 00:26:58,230 --> 00:27:00,289 - I take it by the reaction here 666 00:27:01,009 --> 00:27:03,269 and the fact that Coach is even still sitting here 667 00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:06,039 you were all good with how that video played out. 668 00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:07,130 - Oh, yeah. 669 00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:10,009 - You know there will be people who will say, 670 00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:11,259 "The police officers are all lining up 671 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,049 "with one another again. 672 00:27:13,069 --> 00:27:15,059 They're all-- got each other's back." 673 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,009 - He showed me the video and I'm like, "You're good." 674 00:27:18,029 --> 00:27:20,089 I mean, did nothing wrong. 675 00:27:20,109 --> 00:27:22,190 - In time, the controversy cooled, 676 00:27:22,210 --> 00:27:24,049 but the larger issue 677 00:27:24,069 --> 00:27:26,250 of how the city polices its Black community 678 00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:29,059 continued to simmer below the surface 679 00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,069 as it has for generations. 680 00:27:31,089 --> 00:27:34,170 It was, in fact, the reason Commander Charles Adams 681 00:27:34,190 --> 00:27:36,200 went into policing to begin with. 682 00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:39,000 - Him being mistreated growing up 683 00:27:39,019 --> 00:27:41,009 and seeing how other people were mistreated, 684 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:43,250 that's what drove him to be a police officer. 685 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:46,059 - Your dad felt that when he was growing up, 686 00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:48,000 the way that police officers treated him 687 00:27:48,019 --> 00:27:49,250 because he was Black... - Yeah. 688 00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:51,130 - Was unacceptable. - Absolutely. 689 00:27:51,150 --> 00:27:54,049 - And he wanted to change that? - Yes. 690 00:27:54,069 --> 00:27:55,130 - But whatever progress 691 00:27:55,150 --> 00:27:57,220 the city police may have made since 692 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,140 in building trust with the Black community, 693 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,180 it was largely undone in one shocking moment last May 694 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,240 when Officer Derek Chauvin was caught on camera 695 00:28:07,259 --> 00:28:09,180 doing the unimaginable. 696 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,059 - I can't breathe! 697 00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:13,230 - You got him under control. 698 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:15,130 Like, what the fuck else can you do? 699 00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:17,180 Like, he's on the ground. 700 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,119 That could've been my uncle, man. 701 00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:21,210 That could've been my son. 702 00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:23,160 That could've been me. 703 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:26,119 - Did you know Derek? - Absolutely, yeah. 704 00:28:26,140 --> 00:28:29,009 I knew him. I've known him for 20 years. 705 00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:32,059 - What kind of feelings did you have towards him as a cop? 706 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,059 - It didn't surprise me one bit. 707 00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,109 It didn't surprise me one bit. 708 00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:40,049 As many good and great officers there are 709 00:28:40,069 --> 00:28:41,240 in the police department, 710 00:28:41,259 --> 00:28:43,150 there's always a few that figure 711 00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:45,279 they can do things the way they want to do them. 712 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,230 - Burn that [inaudible] down! 713 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:50,000 - After the killing of George Floyd, 714 00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:53,009 violent protests erupted in Minneapolis 715 00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:55,279 and Adams was told to report for duty 716 00:28:56,009 --> 00:28:57,279 in his riot gear. 717 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,289 He says he kissed his wife and children goodbye, 718 00:29:01,009 --> 00:29:04,049 then huddled his team on a Zoom call. 719 00:29:04,069 --> 00:29:07,210 - To me, it felt like I was saying goodbye to 'em. 720 00:29:07,230 --> 00:29:09,009 - And how did they react? 721 00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:11,109 - It was emotional. 722 00:29:11,130 --> 00:29:13,269 It was emotional for me to say, "Hey, you know what? 723 00:29:13,289 --> 00:29:17,039 "I might not be here tomorrow, man. 724 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:19,039 "But I gotta make sure the city's safe 725 00:29:19,059 --> 00:29:21,029 and make sure you guys are safe." 726 00:29:21,049 --> 00:29:22,150 - He told us that 727 00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:25,000 he didn't know what was gonna happen out there tonight. 728 00:29:25,019 --> 00:29:27,069 So I mean, we were all uncertain. 729 00:29:27,089 --> 00:29:28,240 I know he was uncertain, 730 00:29:28,259 --> 00:29:31,220 but we were all just praying for the best, so 731 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,240 he left us telling us he loved us. 732 00:29:33,259 --> 00:29:35,269 - Were you concerned for his safety? 733 00:29:35,289 --> 00:29:37,049 - Yeah, definitely, 734 00:29:37,069 --> 00:29:41,079 because I know how teenagers my age, 735 00:29:41,099 --> 00:29:44,130 African American teenagers, feel about police officers 736 00:29:44,150 --> 00:29:46,180 and that night, 737 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,289 they weren't looking at him as North's football coach, 738 00:29:48,009 --> 00:29:49,259 they were looking at him as a police officer. 739 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:54,170 - I know that a lot of people do not like police officers 740 00:29:54,190 --> 00:29:56,150 because of the stuff that's going on. 741 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:57,279 Seeing a good police officer 742 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,059 going in the line of duty in danger for his job, 743 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:07,029 it kind of hurts because they won't see him as a loving 744 00:30:07,049 --> 00:30:10,039 and caring type of person, a person who loves kids, 745 00:30:10,059 --> 00:30:12,210 a person who loves people. 746 00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:16,269 - That night, Adams was in the middle of the chaos. 747 00:30:16,289 --> 00:30:19,160 - I was right here in the middle of this intersection. 748 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:21,069 I'm getting rocks thrown at me right here 749 00:30:21,089 --> 00:30:22,210 and I don't even know where they're coming from. 750 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:24,200 I don't even know if they're from here or there, 751 00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:27,019 so I'm ducking from getting hit with rocks and bottles 752 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,019 from people hiding around this corner. 753 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,180 - Adams and his fellow officers were also helping 754 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,150 protect the firefighters of Engine Ladder 7 755 00:30:34,170 --> 00:30:37,190 as they tried to save the city from burning. 756 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,079 Among the buildings on fire? 757 00:30:39,099 --> 00:30:41,039 Police Precinct 3 758 00:30:41,059 --> 00:30:43,259 where both Charles and his father once worked. 759 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:46,059 - We're watching it be set right now. 760 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,279 Fire has started at the Third Precinct. 761 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,230 - Adams made it home safely the next day, 762 00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:55,019 but the animosity he faced from some in his community 763 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,019 continued. 764 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,170 Since those events, 765 00:30:57,190 --> 00:31:01,190 you've faced grief and anger from people in your community, 766 00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:04,150 people who questioned your loyalty one way or the other? 767 00:31:04,170 --> 00:31:06,210 - Yeah. - Did you lose friends? 768 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:08,220 - Yeah. Yeah. 769 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,019 And, um, probably some family members I haven't talked to. 770 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:17,109 - Anybody give you an opportunity to explain? 771 00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:19,019 - Why? 772 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,039 Why do I have to explain anything to anybody about me? 773 00:31:22,059 --> 00:31:23,200 My wife told me, she said, 774 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:27,089 "If you gotta explain anything to anybody about who you are, 775 00:31:27,109 --> 00:31:28,210 "then those are the people that don't need to be in your life 776 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:30,019 in the first place." 777 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:31,119 - Do you think that perhaps 778 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,029 from their own experiences with police officers, 779 00:31:33,049 --> 00:31:37,000 that their attitudes are informed and shaped 780 00:31:37,019 --> 00:31:38,269 and they took that out on you? 781 00:31:38,289 --> 00:31:41,019 - Yeah, that's fair. I could see. 782 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,009 - But the anger towards the Minneapolis Police Department 783 00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:47,079 over the death of George Floyd affected Charles Adams 784 00:31:47,099 --> 00:31:49,170 in yet another way, too. 785 00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:52,029 Shortly after the George Floyd incident, 786 00:31:52,049 --> 00:31:54,250 the public schools of Minneapolis 787 00:31:54,269 --> 00:31:57,019 decided to end its contract 788 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,089 with the Minneapolis Police Department. 789 00:31:59,109 --> 00:32:00,170 - Correct. 790 00:32:00,190 --> 00:32:02,029 - How did that affect you? 791 00:32:02,049 --> 00:32:05,049 - I was no longer working in the school as a police officer. 792 00:32:05,069 --> 00:32:07,109 - And what kind of a void did that leave? 793 00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:11,200 - No presence of me with these kids-- 794 00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:13,220 last year, our school was shot up. 795 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,250 The windows were shot up. 796 00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:18,019 We're in the middle of a gang war still, 797 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:22,109 so we definitely did not put our community in a position 798 00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:24,140 that where our kids can feel safer. 799 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,089 - Who paid the price? - This community. 800 00:32:27,109 --> 00:32:29,059 We're the sacrificial lamb. 801 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,289 Because quite frankly, 802 00:32:31,009 --> 00:32:35,099 it was just parents and people from the other side of the city 803 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:39,190 that were opposed to having police officers in the school. 804 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:42,259 - Critics argue that having police officers in schools 805 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:45,119 posed a threat to the city's children, 806 00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:47,240 primarily its young Black men. 807 00:32:47,259 --> 00:32:49,200 But Charles Adams' football players, 808 00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:53,220 who affectionately call him OA for Officer Adams, 809 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,079 saw it differently. 810 00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:56,170 - When we heard the news 811 00:32:56,190 --> 00:32:59,190 about OA possibly not being in school anymore, 812 00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:01,140 me and some of the football guys, 813 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,210 we went up to the Minneapolis public school building 814 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:08,220 to speak about keeping OA because he protects us. 815 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,250 So with him being gone, it's like, 816 00:33:12,269 --> 00:33:14,119 what could happen, possibly? 817 00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:16,230 What if something happens in the school 818 00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:18,089 and they call one of the police officers 819 00:33:18,109 --> 00:33:20,109 like the one who killed George Floyd? 820 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:22,279 - With no school to patrol any longer, 821 00:33:23,009 --> 00:33:25,230 Adams did the once unthinkable: 822 00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:27,089 he left the police force 823 00:33:27,109 --> 00:33:29,069 and took a job in security 824 00:33:29,089 --> 00:33:31,170 with baseball's Minnesota Twins-- 825 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:33,289 but he didn't leave his kids. 826 00:33:34,009 --> 00:33:35,210 [cleats clacking] 827 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:37,109 Adams and his fellow officers 828 00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:40,059 were allowed to remain the coaches at North High 829 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:41,190 and this fall, 830 00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:44,269 guided them through a season unlike any other. 831 00:33:44,289 --> 00:33:47,140 In the same city where protesters once marched, 832 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,240 the cops and kids of North High 833 00:33:49,259 --> 00:33:51,279 walked together to the stadium, 834 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,140 a custom before every home game. 835 00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:00,259 [cheers and applause] [whistle blows] 836 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,180 They also enjoyed their customary winning season, 837 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,210 bringing a sense of community and joy 838 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:09,030 to a place that still needs both. 839 00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:11,059 - I love y'all, man. Good work. 840 00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,039 - Given everything that has happened, 841 00:34:13,059 --> 00:34:16,250 how important was it to get your kids back in uniform 842 00:34:16,269 --> 00:34:18,059 and back playing football? 843 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,210 - That was therapy. 844 00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:22,110 That was therapy for me 845 00:34:22,130 --> 00:34:26,250 and that was just good for all of us to be back together. 846 00:34:26,269 --> 00:34:28,079 - Family on six! One, two, three! 847 00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:29,099 all: Polar! 848 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:30,190 - Four, five, six. all: Family. 849 00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:32,230 ♪ ♪ 850 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,119 - And Jon Frankel's with us from New York. 851 00:34:34,139 --> 00:34:36,019 Hey, Jon. - Hey, BG. 852 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:37,250 How are you? - Okay, pal. 853 00:34:37,269 --> 00:34:40,010 Hey, how did Charles' decision to leave the force go over 854 00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:41,099 with his dad? 855 00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,269 - You know, that's an interesting one. 856 00:34:42,289 --> 00:34:44,099 I think his dad realized that 857 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,059 this was a wonderful opportunity for him. 858 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,050 He understood that he was sort of disillusioned 859 00:34:48,070 --> 00:34:50,000 by what was going on in the police department 860 00:34:50,019 --> 00:34:54,159 and his dad has been head of security in sports arenas 861 00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:56,050 now, particularly for the Vikings, 862 00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:57,170 for a number of years in his career, 863 00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:58,190 so he understood that. 864 00:34:58,210 --> 00:35:00,019 - Charles indicated that 865 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,030 he knew Derek Chauvin was a bad cop. 866 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:07,119 Did he say anything about why he still had his badge? 867 00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:11,110 - He did not, but he was adamant that he was-- 868 00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:13,050 that the situation would've been handled differently 869 00:35:13,070 --> 00:35:14,159 not only by him, 870 00:35:14,179 --> 00:35:16,159 but by a good number of police officers in Minneapolis. 871 00:35:16,179 --> 00:35:17,230 - Yeah. 872 00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:19,050 The kids that were his players, obviously, 873 00:35:19,070 --> 00:35:20,199 grew to like Charles, 874 00:35:20,219 --> 00:35:22,190 but did that in any way change 875 00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:26,079 their understandably negative feelings about cops? 876 00:35:26,099 --> 00:35:27,219 - He will tell you that 877 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,079 there are parents of players who openly admit to Charles 878 00:35:31,099 --> 00:35:32,159 that they don't like cops 879 00:35:32,179 --> 00:35:34,250 and yet, their kids still show up for practice. 880 00:35:34,269 --> 00:35:38,250 So it's been part of a dialogue between him and his players 881 00:35:38,269 --> 00:35:40,250 since he started coaching there. 882 00:35:40,269 --> 00:35:43,239 - So as a slice of life piece, this was very revealing. 883 00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:45,079 But is there a lesson here? 884 00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:48,079 - This is a wonderful, um, 885 00:35:48,099 --> 00:35:50,110 template for policing 886 00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:52,050 in communities all across the country. 887 00:35:52,070 --> 00:35:54,110 That if you can take police officers 888 00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:55,280 and put them in the community 889 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,250 and let them be a part of the community 890 00:35:57,269 --> 00:36:00,090 not just as watchdogs and policing, 891 00:36:00,110 --> 00:36:03,070 but in a way that they are actually really interacting 892 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:04,170 with the people of the community. 893 00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:06,059 And of course, it also helps in this situation 894 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,079 that Charles and his dad grew up in that community, 895 00:36:09,099 --> 00:36:11,090 but they see a real benefit to that. 896 00:36:11,110 --> 00:36:13,099 - Yeah. Certainly couldn't hurt. 897 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:14,250 All right, Jon, thanks so very much. 898 00:36:14,269 --> 00:36:16,280 Stay safe, will you? - You too. 899 00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:21,019 - Our last story tonight focuses on Nike, 900 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,170 arguably the biggest and most powerful brand 901 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:25,019 in all of sports. 902 00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:26,090 These days, 903 00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:28,070 the Swoosh is an iconic logo around the world, 904 00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:30,039 reflecting Nike's influence and interest 905 00:36:30,059 --> 00:36:32,289 in a wide range of different sports. 906 00:36:33,010 --> 00:36:34,070 But when Nike was founded, 907 00:36:34,090 --> 00:36:36,079 its focus was on the sport of running 908 00:36:36,099 --> 00:36:38,250 and that remains a corporate priority, 909 00:36:38,269 --> 00:36:40,260 a fact that is especially troubling 910 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,099 in light of recent complaints the company's obsession 911 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:46,230 with running success was leaving some of its athletes 912 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:49,050 mentally and physically broken. 913 00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:51,210 Our David Scott has the details. 914 00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:53,289 [cheers and applause] - Cain with 100 to go! 915 00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:55,230 The title is hers, surely! 916 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,210 - By the time she was a teenager, 917 00:36:57,230 --> 00:37:00,150 Mary Cain was already the talk of the running world, 918 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:04,000 a prodigy who could one day be a legend. 919 00:37:04,019 --> 00:37:06,289 - She is absolutely the future of American distance running 920 00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:09,159 and she's only 16! 921 00:37:09,179 --> 00:37:12,090 - Immensely gifted but still raw, 922 00:37:12,110 --> 00:37:15,150 Cain needed just one thing to unlock her potential 923 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:18,150 and make her America's next great running star: 924 00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:19,260 the right coach. 925 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,139 Then she got the call 926 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,170 that would change the course of her career and her life. 927 00:37:24,190 --> 00:37:26,050 - I heard the phone ring 928 00:37:26,070 --> 00:37:29,099 and then I just hear my mom, 929 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,159 like, clearly sprinting downstairs. 930 00:37:33,179 --> 00:37:36,139 She comes running into my room and she's like, 931 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,269 "That was Alberto Salazar. He wants to coach you." 932 00:37:39,289 --> 00:37:43,030 - Alberto Salazar was running royalty. 933 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:44,230 - Salazar! - He's gonna do it! 934 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:46,179 - A new world record! - He's got it! 935 00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,019 - As a competitor, 936 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:50,119 he'd won the New York City Marathon three times. 937 00:37:50,139 --> 00:37:54,019 As a coach, he'd minted one champion after another. 938 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:57,179 Now, Salazar would take Mary Cain under his wing. 939 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:01,260 He vowed to make her great and also keep her safe. 940 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,099 - She's got a lot of talent and my job is to make sure that 941 00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:08,059 that talent is fulfilled, that she doesn't get injured. 942 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,230 - This is like your favorite NFL coach 943 00:38:10,250 --> 00:38:12,130 calling you up as a high schooler 944 00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:15,190 and saying, "You want to join the team?" 945 00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:19,019 - Did it feel like with your early success 946 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,050 and him on your side, 947 00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:23,199 you could not just dream about the Olympics, 948 00:38:23,219 --> 00:38:24,269 but plan for them? 949 00:38:24,289 --> 00:38:26,099 - Exactly, yeah. 950 00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:31,179 I remember being so-- just so happy and so excited. 951 00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:33,090 - Even more so because 952 00:38:33,110 --> 00:38:35,219 it wasn't just Salazar bringing her aboard. 953 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,219 Cain would be running for Nike, 954 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,110 the company that for years had not only cultivated champions 955 00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:44,039 on the field of play, but had built its brand 956 00:38:44,059 --> 00:38:45,110 on a progressive mentality, 957 00:38:45,130 --> 00:38:48,090 encouraging athletes of all stripes 958 00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:49,210 to reach for the stars. 959 00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:51,170 - Don't ask if your dreams are crazy, 960 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:54,039 ask if they're crazy enough. 961 00:38:54,059 --> 00:38:56,010 [dramatic music] 962 00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:57,130 - To the young runner, 963 00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:59,260 it all seemed too good to be true. 964 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,150 Now, she says it was. 965 00:39:02,170 --> 00:39:06,030 - There were definitely warning signs 966 00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:09,150 that I think as a young kid, I just blew off 967 00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:11,280 as not being an issue. 968 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,159 But I was put through a program that condoned abuse. 969 00:39:16,179 --> 00:39:18,010 - It was supposed to be 970 00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:20,190 the sport's premier breeding ground for champions, 971 00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:24,010 but now, former members of Nike's elite running team 972 00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:26,059 known as the Oregon Project 973 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,070 say the company's pursuit of glory 974 00:39:28,090 --> 00:39:31,079 came at a staggering cost to their health. 975 00:39:31,099 --> 00:39:34,079 They say they endured physical torment, 976 00:39:34,099 --> 00:39:35,130 mental abuse, 977 00:39:35,150 --> 00:39:37,130 and a regimen full of experimental 978 00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:40,000 and potentially dangerous medication 979 00:39:40,019 --> 00:39:42,070 all in the name of speed 980 00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:45,059 and in service of the celebrated Nike Swoosh. 981 00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,039 - This young lady's wonderfully gifted! 982 00:39:47,059 --> 00:39:49,099 - Mary Cain says the abuse began 983 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,079 shortly after her arrival at the Nike campus. 984 00:39:52,099 --> 00:39:54,269 That's when she says Alberto Salazar, 985 00:39:54,289 --> 00:39:56,179 the coach she'd idolized, 986 00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:59,050 began to berate her about her weight... 987 00:39:59,070 --> 00:40:00,179 - Mary. 988 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,119 - Even weighing her in front of her teammates. 989 00:40:03,139 --> 00:40:06,019 - I am being told in front of the other athletes 990 00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:07,159 on the track, 991 00:40:07,179 --> 00:40:10,190 "You have clearly gained five pounds since this morning. 992 00:40:10,210 --> 00:40:13,260 You look terrible, you are running terrible." 993 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,170 And... 994 00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:18,000 I was so ashamed of myself. 995 00:40:18,019 --> 00:40:20,230 - How did you feel when he would say, 996 00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:22,190 "You didn't run well, get on the scale"? 997 00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:23,239 - So embarrassed. 998 00:40:23,260 --> 00:40:28,000 I mean, like, for me, it was just-- 999 00:40:28,019 --> 00:40:30,019 I was working so hard. 1000 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:33,219 I was, like, severely undereating. 1001 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,110 By the end of the year, I tried to purge. 1002 00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:39,030 I would stick my finger or a spoon down my throat 1003 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:41,210 um, and I wouldn't throw up 1004 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:46,130 and then I would hate myself 'cause I couldn't do it. 1005 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:48,110 I'm in a full-blown eating disorder at this point. 1006 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:50,030 - Full-blown eating disorder? - Yeah. 1007 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:51,190 Because you're looking at yourself in the mirror 1008 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:54,030 and you see an incredibly heavy person. 1009 00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:56,230 - Cain was just 18 years old at the time, 1010 00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:59,170 but says she kept her worsening condition a secret, 1011 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:01,019 even from her parents 1012 00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,039 because she says Salazar made it clear 1013 00:41:03,059 --> 00:41:07,059 that he wanted Oregon Project business to remain in-house. 1014 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,059 - I was told 1015 00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:12,210 that, "You're an adult now. 1016 00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:15,190 "You can't go crying to your parents 1017 00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:17,170 every time you don't like something we're saying." 1018 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:20,090 Pretty much, "It's our way or the highway." 1019 00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:23,230 - Alberto Salazar declined our request for an interview, 1020 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:26,110 but says he never weight-shamed Mary Cain 1021 00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:30,079 or directed her to maintain an unhealthy weight. 1022 00:41:30,099 --> 00:41:32,150 But Cain is not the only Nike runner 1023 00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:34,210 who says they felt overwhelming pressure 1024 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:36,159 to meet Salazar's demands. 1025 00:41:36,179 --> 00:41:38,239 - And Kara Goucher to the front! 1026 00:41:38,260 --> 00:41:41,079 Kara Goucher has taken the lead! 1027 00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:45,119 - For years, Kara Goucher was among Salazar's star pupils, 1028 00:41:45,139 --> 00:41:46,260 a two-time U.S. Olympian 1029 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,199 and silver medalist at the World Championships. 1030 00:41:49,219 --> 00:41:53,050 Then, she and her husband, Adam, decided to have a child. 1031 00:41:53,070 --> 00:41:55,119 Outwardly, Nike supported the move, 1032 00:41:55,139 --> 00:41:58,260 coordinating photo shoots that paired Goucher's growing belly 1033 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,210 with the famous Nike Swoosh 1034 00:42:00,230 --> 00:42:03,190 and placing stories about her pregnancy in magazines, 1035 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:06,230 prominently touting Nike's steadfast support 1036 00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:09,019 of the modern, athletic mother. 1037 00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,050 But behind the scenes, Goucher says, 1038 00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:13,070 it was a different story. 1039 00:42:13,090 --> 00:42:16,139 - The image they were selling of, "women can do anything," 1040 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:21,090 and "we support women" was nothing like the reality. 1041 00:42:21,110 --> 00:42:23,070 - The reality, Goucher says, 1042 00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:25,099 is that as soon as she stopped racing 1043 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,110 in preparation for childbirth, 1044 00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:29,250 Nike dropped her from the team's payroll. 1045 00:42:29,269 --> 00:42:33,030 She says that according to her coach, Alberto Salazar, 1046 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:36,030 she'd get paid again once she returned to racing 1047 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:38,250 and returned to the medal stand. 1048 00:42:38,269 --> 00:42:42,010 - Alberto's telling me, "If you just win Boston..." 1049 00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:43,150 - "Just win Boston." - "It'll go away. 1050 00:42:43,170 --> 00:42:44,150 "They'll pay you. 1051 00:42:44,170 --> 00:42:45,230 It'll be fine." - [chuckles] 1052 00:42:45,250 --> 00:42:48,030 - Just go win the Boston Marathon in six months 1053 00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:52,050 and all is forgiven for having a baby? 1054 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:53,179 - Yes. 1055 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:56,030 - Did you feel like, um, 1056 00:42:56,050 --> 00:42:57,159 you just had no choice 1057 00:42:57,179 --> 00:42:59,130 but to get yourself back out there 1058 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:02,059 whatever it took, whatever it cost you? 1059 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,000 - Yeah. I mean--[scoffs] 1060 00:43:04,019 --> 00:43:06,139 my body was in pain every day. 1061 00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:09,250 I was in pain, but what am I gonna do? 1062 00:43:09,269 --> 00:43:11,210 Nobody cares. 1063 00:43:11,230 --> 00:43:14,199 Nobody cares that my hip is killing me, 1064 00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:16,039 nobody cares 1065 00:43:16,059 --> 00:43:19,099 that I'm still bleeding three months after I gave birth. 1066 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:20,170 Nobody cares. 1067 00:43:20,190 --> 00:43:24,019 They just need me to return to who I was. 1068 00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,239 - Goucher says she trained for the Boston Marathon 1069 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:29,030 like her livelihood depended on it, 1070 00:43:29,050 --> 00:43:31,070 even when her three-month-old son, Colt, 1071 00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:32,260 fell critically ill. 1072 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,230 - Our son got sick-- very sick-- 1073 00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:38,070 and needed emergency surgery. - Oh, my God. 1074 00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:41,199 - And I had my first race back planned that weekend. 1075 00:43:41,219 --> 00:43:44,119 And there was never any discussion of, 1076 00:43:44,139 --> 00:43:46,170 "Let's find another race," or, 1077 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:49,230 "Maybe you should just, you know, 1078 00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:52,099 take a few days with your child." 1079 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,250 You know, I left Colt in the hospital 1080 00:43:54,269 --> 00:43:56,059 to go to practice. 1081 00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,219 - Alberto didn't step up and say, "Wait a minute. 1082 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,230 You need to attend to what's more important"? 1083 00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:07,079 - Nope. He said, "Surgery's over. 1084 00:44:07,099 --> 00:44:09,260 We have evening practice. 1085 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,079 I'll see you there." 1086 00:44:11,099 --> 00:44:13,250 - Just six months after giving birth, 1087 00:44:13,269 --> 00:44:15,250 Goucher managed to get on the starting line 1088 00:44:15,269 --> 00:44:17,119 of the Boston Marathon 1089 00:44:17,139 --> 00:44:20,280 where she ran a personal best time and placed fifth. 1090 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,199 - Six months after having a baby, 1091 00:44:22,219 --> 00:44:24,230 this is incredible stuff. 1092 00:44:24,250 --> 00:44:28,059 - But that didn't cut it for Salazar and the Swoosh. 1093 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,260 - After the Boston Marathon, 1094 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,179 the first thing he said to my mother and my sister 1095 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:33,289 when they saw him: 1096 00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:36,000 "She's just too big. 1097 00:44:36,019 --> 00:44:38,019 She's just still too big." 1098 00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:43,050 - You know, I watched her kill herself and break her body 1099 00:44:43,070 --> 00:44:44,289 to rush to get back 1100 00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:48,070 and I'm just appalled at the coarseness of, 1101 00:44:48,090 --> 00:44:50,030 "You're just too big." 1102 00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:53,059 - Salazar denies ever tying Goucher's marathon performance 1103 00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:56,119 to her pay or pressuring her back onto the track. 1104 00:44:56,139 --> 00:44:58,179 Goucher believes the rush back from pregnancy 1105 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,190 ultimately destroyed her health. 1106 00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:02,219 Shortly after the Boston Marathon, 1107 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,230 she suffered a fractured femur, 1108 00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:06,239 the first of a series of injuries 1109 00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:08,079 that ended her career. 1110 00:45:08,099 --> 00:45:09,260 And before long, 1111 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,059 one of her teenage teammates would suffer a similar fate. 1112 00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,130 - I did extra cross-training, I did extra core training, 1113 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:20,079 I did everything that I could do to try to lose weight 1114 00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:23,199 but my body was fighting me. 1115 00:45:23,219 --> 00:45:25,079 - In the case of Mary Cain, 1116 00:45:25,099 --> 00:45:28,130 Salazar's rigorous training program proved too much 1117 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:31,070 for a girl in the throes of an eating disorder. 1118 00:45:31,090 --> 00:45:33,230 Cain began to suffer from amenorrhea, 1119 00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:36,130 a condition that prevented her from menstruating 1120 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:38,050 for 3 1/2 years 1121 00:45:38,070 --> 00:45:40,280 and left her bones dangerously brittle. 1122 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,119 Before long, 1123 00:45:42,139 --> 00:45:44,289 the teenager suffered multiple stress fractures. 1124 00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:48,019 - Mary Cain is well back of the field. 1125 00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:49,210 Third to last. 1126 00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:53,039 - As her body crumbled, so did her performance on the track 1127 00:45:53,059 --> 00:45:55,110 and eventually, her mental health. 1128 00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:58,230 Finally, Cain had one more disappointing finish 1129 00:45:58,250 --> 00:46:00,039 than she could handle. 1130 00:46:00,059 --> 00:46:03,210 - Moser now passes Cain. - So Cain is struggling. 1131 00:46:03,230 --> 00:46:05,019 - Afterwards, 1132 00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:09,119 I was kind of, like, under these, like, bleachers. 1133 00:46:09,139 --> 00:46:12,239 And I was taking-- 1134 00:46:12,260 --> 00:46:14,119 and I'm sorry if this is graphic, 1135 00:46:14,139 --> 00:46:19,190 but I was taking the pins from my, um, bib 1136 00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:22,190 and I was using them to go like this. 1137 00:46:22,210 --> 00:46:25,039 - Scratching, scraping? - Going pretty deep. 1138 00:46:25,059 --> 00:46:26,250 - Breaking the skin? - Yeah. 1139 00:46:26,269 --> 00:46:28,019 - That's when Cain says 1140 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,070 she was spotted by Darren Treasure, 1141 00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:32,090 the Nike team psychologist. 1142 00:46:32,110 --> 00:46:35,079 - He caught me doing that and was-- 1143 00:46:35,099 --> 00:46:37,210 he said, like, "Knock that off. Get up. 1144 00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:39,239 We're going to where the rest of the team is." 1145 00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:41,289 - He sees you cutting yourself 1146 00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:43,219 and says, "Knock it off?" 1147 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,269 - Mm-hmm. 1148 00:46:44,289 --> 00:46:47,130 - There's no discussion of treating 1149 00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:51,150 what might appear to be a compulsive behavior 1150 00:46:51,170 --> 00:46:53,050 or a disorder? 1151 00:46:53,070 --> 00:46:54,190 - No. 1152 00:46:54,210 --> 00:46:57,079 - Cain says she was shocked by the response because 1153 00:46:57,099 --> 00:46:59,050 Treasure was the Oregon Project's 1154 00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:00,230 mental health expert, 1155 00:47:00,250 --> 00:47:03,190 one of the sport's most reputable psychologists-- 1156 00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:05,090 or so she thought. 1157 00:47:05,110 --> 00:47:06,210 - He told, 1158 00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:08,280 and Alberto perpetuated to everybody, 1159 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,170 that he was a psychologist, 1160 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:13,159 but he wasn't. 1161 00:47:13,179 --> 00:47:15,219 - Even while the Nike Oregon Project website 1162 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,190 touted Treasure as a sports psychologist, 1163 00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:21,119 he was not a licensed psychologist at all, 1164 00:47:21,139 --> 00:47:23,199 but a glorified assistant coach 1165 00:47:23,219 --> 00:47:25,269 who Cain treated as a confidante 1166 00:47:25,289 --> 00:47:29,289 but who she now believes spilled her secrets to Salazar 1167 00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:32,230 and left her helpless in her time of need. 1168 00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:34,219 - I am trapped 1169 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,199 because these are the people who are supposed to help me 1170 00:47:37,219 --> 00:47:39,260 and they are not helping me. 1171 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,239 - They represented to the world he was a psychologist, 1172 00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:46,190 they presented him to you as a psychologist. 1173 00:47:46,210 --> 00:47:50,000 What do you now think his real role was? 1174 00:47:50,019 --> 00:47:52,119 - To serve Alberto. 1175 00:47:52,139 --> 00:47:54,119 Probably to serve Nike. 1176 00:47:54,139 --> 00:47:57,280 - Darren Treasure has denied ever seeing Cain cut herself, 1177 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,119 but refused our request for an interview. 1178 00:48:00,139 --> 00:48:02,110 Increasingly desperate, 1179 00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:05,070 Cain says she began to contemplate suicide. 1180 00:48:05,090 --> 00:48:06,250 In a final cry for help, 1181 00:48:06,269 --> 00:48:10,099 Cain says she directly pleaded with Salazar and Treasure 1182 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,070 after a race in a Nike team hotel room. 1183 00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:15,000 - That's when I just was like, 1184 00:48:15,019 --> 00:48:17,119 "I am not okay. 1185 00:48:17,139 --> 00:48:19,199 "I have been cutting myself, 1186 00:48:19,219 --> 00:48:21,210 I have been trying to purge." 1187 00:48:21,230 --> 00:48:26,079 I was getting to a point where I was scaring myself. 1188 00:48:26,099 --> 00:48:30,199 And I just needed help. 1189 00:48:30,219 --> 00:48:35,170 And at that point, I was told 1190 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:38,000 that they wanted to go to sleep 1191 00:48:38,019 --> 00:48:39,170 and that it was late 1192 00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:41,230 and they had early morning flights 1193 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:45,030 and that I should just go to bed 1194 00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:47,179 and sleep it off. 1195 00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:50,050 And... 1196 00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:53,000 like, I just feel so bad 1197 00:48:53,019 --> 00:48:58,050 for that...girl. 1198 00:48:58,070 --> 00:49:00,289 - Salazar and Treasure deny Cain's account, 1199 00:49:01,010 --> 00:49:02,130 but days later, 1200 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:04,099 Mary Cain was on a flight back home to New York 1201 00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:05,280 where she'd spend years trying 1202 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,010 to piece back together her life. 1203 00:49:08,030 --> 00:49:09,159 Meanwhile, back in Oregon, 1204 00:49:09,179 --> 00:49:12,130 the Nike running team never broke stride. 1205 00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:14,010 - They wanted to win 1206 00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:17,119 and anything after that, 1207 00:49:17,139 --> 00:49:19,039 they didn't care about. 1208 00:49:19,059 --> 00:49:21,050 It was somebody else's problem. 1209 00:49:21,070 --> 00:49:25,170 Dorian Ulrey joined the Nike Oregon project in 2012. 1210 00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:28,269 There, he says, he was abused in a different way. 1211 00:49:28,289 --> 00:49:31,289 Ulrey says he was ordered by Alberto Salazar 1212 00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:34,019 to regularly consume a cocktail 1213 00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,059 of performance-enhancing drugs 1214 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,090 regardless of his own fears for his health. 1215 00:49:39,110 --> 00:49:41,170 - Do without asking, 1216 00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:44,119 take this without pushing back, 1217 00:49:44,139 --> 00:49:46,159 put this into your body, 1218 00:49:46,179 --> 00:49:49,070 uh, without batting an eyelash. 1219 00:49:49,090 --> 00:49:51,079 That was the process. 1220 00:49:51,099 --> 00:49:53,260 - In fact, Ulrey says that Coach Salazar 1221 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,000 also played the role of unofficial team doctor, 1222 00:49:57,019 --> 00:50:00,039 dispensing a regimen of his own creation. 1223 00:50:00,059 --> 00:50:03,230 - There was a powder that we mixed into drinks 1224 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:06,119 in a white tub, unmarked, 1225 00:50:06,139 --> 00:50:09,170 that came from Alberto's garage. 1226 00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:13,030 So he'd roll up on whatever day of the week that was 1227 00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:17,010 and pop open the trunk of his car and, "Hey, powder day. 1228 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:19,010 Come get your powder." [chuckles] 1229 00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:22,159 - Unidentified? - Yeah, unidentified. 1230 00:50:22,179 --> 00:50:26,099 - At the time, did it strike you as strange 1231 00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,159 or unusual, if not inappropriate? 1232 00:50:28,179 --> 00:50:30,190 - Yes, absolutely. 1233 00:50:30,210 --> 00:50:32,269 - Ulrey's fears grew when he learned a bit 1234 00:50:32,289 --> 00:50:36,030 about another drug he was being told to take by Salazar, 1235 00:50:36,050 --> 00:50:38,280 a drug called calcitonin. 1236 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,289 - My "holy shit" moment was 1237 00:50:42,010 --> 00:50:46,000 finding out that it was a drug that was linked to cancer, 1238 00:50:46,019 --> 00:50:48,179 a higher rate of cancer. 1239 00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:50,260 And I reached out to a couple of friends 1240 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,030 and one had even said, "Hey, man, 1241 00:50:53,050 --> 00:50:55,250 they pulled this stuff from the shelf in Europe." 1242 00:50:55,269 --> 00:50:57,139 - Salazar says that 1243 00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:00,199 all drugs were dispensed under the supervision of doctors, 1244 00:51:00,219 --> 00:51:02,159 but when word of his pharmaceutical regimen 1245 00:51:02,179 --> 00:51:05,130 began to leak out to anti-doping officials, 1246 00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:09,010 Salazar's entire program began to unravel. 1247 00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:10,239 - There's a clear line. 1248 00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:12,269 And when you cross that line, 1249 00:51:12,289 --> 00:51:16,289 and it puts athletes in the type of abusive, 1250 00:51:17,010 --> 00:51:20,210 unsafe, unhealthy environment that this did, 1251 00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:22,280 that's when it has to stop. 1252 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,119 - Travis Tygart is the long-time chief 1253 00:51:25,139 --> 00:51:28,159 at the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, or USADA, 1254 00:51:28,179 --> 00:51:30,000 the nation's police when it comes 1255 00:51:30,019 --> 00:51:31,260 to the doping of athletes. 1256 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,010 He says that when his investigators began 1257 00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:36,239 peeling back the curtain of Salazar's program, 1258 00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:38,260 they were shocked at what they found. 1259 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,099 You've called the athletes in this whole scheme 1260 00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,190 "laboratory animals." 1261 00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:47,139 - I think the athletes were treated like guinea pigs 1262 00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:49,150 to try to get them to win 1263 00:51:49,170 --> 00:51:52,269 so that the Nike brand could continue to profit 1264 00:51:52,289 --> 00:51:55,110 by the very people that they were, you know, 1265 00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:56,219 subjecting to this kind of abuse 1266 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,130 and ultimately, to the rule violations. 1267 00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:02,019 - And it appears that Nike wasn't just profiting 1268 00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:04,190 off of Salazar's drug-related activities, 1269 00:52:04,210 --> 00:52:07,260 but also may have been involved in carrying them out. 1270 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,010 The investigation unearthed emails 1271 00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:12,250 that show Nike's then-CEO Mark Parker 1272 00:52:12,269 --> 00:52:16,000 communicating with Salazar and a team doctor 1273 00:52:16,019 --> 00:52:18,289 about testing with illegal testosterone gel 1274 00:52:19,010 --> 00:52:20,170 in the Nike lab. 1275 00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:24,000 There's an email to Mark Parker about the experiment saying, 1276 00:52:24,019 --> 00:52:27,119 "We're going to determine the minimal amount of gel 1277 00:52:27,139 --> 00:52:29,099 that would cause a problem." 1278 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,230 And Parker, for his part, writes back, 1279 00:52:32,250 --> 00:52:35,190 "It will be interesting to determine the minimal amount 1280 00:52:35,210 --> 00:52:38,219 of topical male hormone--" testosterone, 1281 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,260 "required to create a positive test." 1282 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,260 What did that exchange tell you? 1283 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,090 - I think they're trying to find out how much you could use 1284 00:52:47,110 --> 00:52:49,090 without causing a positive test. 1285 00:52:49,110 --> 00:52:52,159 And you don't have to be the CEO of a sports company 1286 00:52:52,179 --> 00:52:54,170 to know testosterone 1287 00:52:54,190 --> 00:52:58,219 is the fundamental doping drug of choice 1288 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,039 for athletes who want to cheat. 1289 00:53:01,059 --> 00:53:03,119 - Nike representatives declined our request 1290 00:53:03,139 --> 00:53:05,289 for an interview, but in a statement told us 1291 00:53:06,010 --> 00:53:08,199 the company had merely been conducting an experiment 1292 00:53:08,219 --> 00:53:10,219 to learn if their athletes could be sabotaged, 1293 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,130 perhaps by an outsider 1294 00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:16,130 intent on rubbing topical testosterone on their skin. 1295 00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:18,059 They justify this by saying 1296 00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:22,159 that this was just their way of playing defense 1297 00:53:22,179 --> 00:53:25,059 against others who would break the rules. 1298 00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:26,150 - It's just a sham. 1299 00:53:26,170 --> 00:53:29,090 They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar 1300 00:53:29,110 --> 00:53:30,210 and after the fact, 1301 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:33,219 they've attempted to make up this story to justify-- 1302 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,039 I think it's unbelievable that a corporation 1303 00:53:38,059 --> 00:53:41,139 would knowingly allow this to happen on its campus. 1304 00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:44,000 - With the evidence provided by whistleblowers, 1305 00:53:44,019 --> 00:53:46,199 USADA found that Alberto Salazar had violated 1306 00:53:46,219 --> 00:53:48,070 multiple doping rules 1307 00:53:48,090 --> 00:53:50,280 and banned him from coaching for four years. 1308 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,150 In response, Nike announced it would conduct 1309 00:53:53,170 --> 00:53:55,119 its own investigation into what happened 1310 00:53:55,139 --> 00:53:57,150 inside its vaunted track program. 1311 00:53:57,170 --> 00:54:00,130 But several aggrieved Nike runners told us 1312 00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:03,199 they were never contacted to provide information. 1313 00:54:03,219 --> 00:54:05,030 - They did an internal investigation, 1314 00:54:05,050 --> 00:54:06,269 but they never talked to us? 1315 00:54:06,289 --> 00:54:08,050 - Never talked to you? 1316 00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:09,050 - Oh, no. - Never talked to us. 1317 00:54:09,070 --> 00:54:11,030 - Nope. - Not once. 1318 00:54:11,050 --> 00:54:14,079 So they're gonna say that they didn't find any indication 1319 00:54:14,099 --> 00:54:16,110 of abuse. 1320 00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:18,110 Well, why don't you talk to the abused? 1321 00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:21,030 - Indeed, both Nike and Alberto Salazar say 1322 00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:23,130 that the coach never abused his athletes 1323 00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:25,119 or forced them to take drugs 1324 00:54:25,139 --> 00:54:27,139 and that he never intentionally violated 1325 00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:28,210 any rules. 1326 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:31,239 Salazar is now appealing his suspension 1327 00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:34,000 with the financial backing of Nike. 1328 00:54:34,019 --> 00:54:36,289 What does the Nike Swoosh mean for you now? 1329 00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:38,250 - I think nothing. 1330 00:54:38,269 --> 00:54:40,059 Absolutely nothing. 1331 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,110 The truth is, 1332 00:54:42,130 --> 00:54:45,150 they're a brand that wants to sell shoes, 1333 00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:47,010 and they're gonna sell it with lies, 1334 00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:48,159 they're gonna sell it with cheating, 1335 00:54:48,179 --> 00:54:50,179 they're gonna sell it any way that they can. 1336 00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:53,079 ♪ ♪ 1337 00:54:53,099 --> 00:54:55,150 - All right, and David Scott joins us from New York. 1338 00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:57,000 David, how you doing? 1339 00:54:57,019 --> 00:54:58,090 - I'm doing good, sir, thank you. 1340 00:54:58,110 --> 00:55:00,000 - David, real quick, who's the bad guy here? 1341 00:55:00,019 --> 00:55:02,130 Salazar? Nike? Neither? Both? 1342 00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:03,250 - Well, I think they're-- 1343 00:55:03,269 --> 00:55:06,019 you know, they're tough questions for both parties. 1344 00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:09,250 Unfortunately, we didn't get a chance to ask them on camera. 1345 00:55:09,269 --> 00:55:13,010 - Do we really know how independently Salazar 1346 00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:16,030 was allowed by Nike to operate? 1347 00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:18,119 - By all accounts, he had enormous autonomy 1348 00:55:18,139 --> 00:55:20,159 in the program. 1349 00:55:20,179 --> 00:55:23,000 But there's also a documentary record 1350 00:55:23,019 --> 00:55:27,170 of contacts between himself and other top brass at Nike 1351 00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:30,250 that suggests knowledge on the company's part 1352 00:55:30,269 --> 00:55:33,070 of at least some of his activities. 1353 00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:35,050 - Bring us up to speed; are Salazar 1354 00:55:35,070 --> 00:55:38,000 and the mental health expert, Darren Treasure, 1355 00:55:38,019 --> 00:55:39,130 still getting paid? 1356 00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:42,000 - Well, so Salazar is suspended. 1357 00:55:42,019 --> 00:55:43,119 We don't know if he's being paid, 1358 00:55:43,139 --> 00:55:47,019 but Nike is backing his appeal. 1359 00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,050 They have not parted company with him. 1360 00:55:49,070 --> 00:55:52,130 Darren Treasure is still working there 1361 00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:55,269 in some capacity as a contractor. 1362 00:55:55,289 --> 00:55:59,010 Nike says it has done its own investigation 1363 00:55:59,030 --> 00:56:02,159 and taken the findings forward to make things better, 1364 00:56:02,179 --> 00:56:04,199 particularly for their female athletes 1365 00:56:04,219 --> 00:56:07,110 and they say that they have ended this practice 1366 00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:10,219 of suspending the pay of the female athletes 1367 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,280 when they get pregnant. 1368 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,050 - All right, David, good work. 1369 00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:15,250 Thanks so very much. Take care of yourself. 1370 00:56:15,269 --> 00:56:17,099 - Thank you, sir, you too. 1371 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,280 - Finally, tonight, a few words about life, death, 1372 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,289 and sports immortality. 1373 00:56:24,010 --> 00:56:26,230 Since every life is precious, it may seem insensitive 1374 00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,199 to single out a few famous people 1375 00:56:28,219 --> 00:56:31,030 at a time when the coronavirus has already killed 1376 00:56:31,050 --> 00:56:33,150 over 2 million worldwide. 1377 00:56:33,170 --> 00:56:35,130 But the stunning number of sports hall of famers 1378 00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:39,110 who have left us in the past year simply can't be ignored. 1379 00:56:39,130 --> 00:56:42,010 When Hank Aaron died just days ago, 1380 00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:44,110 he became the latest of almost three dozen 1381 00:56:44,130 --> 00:56:46,139 hall of fame athletes or coaches 1382 00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,130 to die over the past year. 1383 00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:49,250 The list is full of legends: 1384 00:56:49,269 --> 00:56:52,179 Kobe Bryant, Gale Sayers, Whitey Ford, 1385 00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:54,250 Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Paul Hornung, 1386 00:56:54,269 --> 00:56:57,079 Don Schula, Maradona, Lou Brock. 1387 00:56:57,099 --> 00:57:00,090 They left outsized public imprints on their sports 1388 00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:02,030 and forced private recollections 1389 00:57:02,050 --> 00:57:06,070 from millions of lifelong fans of their talents, like me. 1390 00:57:06,090 --> 00:57:08,090 That age and disease have claimed so many 1391 00:57:08,110 --> 00:57:10,159 who seemed so indestructible for so long 1392 00:57:10,179 --> 00:57:12,139 is frankly frightening to those of us 1393 00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:15,199 who were and are their contemporaries. 1394 00:57:15,219 --> 00:57:18,050 Just as their exploits once made us feel alive, 1395 00:57:18,070 --> 00:57:20,119 so too are their deaths unwelcome reminders 1396 00:57:20,139 --> 00:57:23,230 of just how vulnerable we gray-beards have become 1397 00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:26,070 and how fleeting our days really are. 1398 00:57:26,090 --> 00:57:28,019 Kind people may say we're young, 1399 00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:30,230 and we may even feel it's true from time to time. 1400 00:57:30,250 --> 00:57:33,090 Self-delusion is intoxicating, 1401 00:57:33,110 --> 00:57:35,110 but time always wins the race. 1402 00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:37,130 As for the numbers our heroes compiled, 1403 00:57:37,150 --> 00:57:39,199 they'll continue to have a life of their own. 1404 00:57:39,219 --> 00:57:42,019 Aaron's home run totals, Gibson's earned run average, 1405 00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:44,010 Schula's wins, Brock's steals-- 1406 00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:45,199 they're in black and white. 1407 00:57:45,219 --> 00:57:47,110 And while they may yet be surpassed, 1408 00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,030 they'll never be erased. 1409 00:57:49,050 --> 00:57:51,139 They'll live on long after the famous folks 1410 00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:53,269 who scripted those marks are forgotten. 1411 00:57:53,289 --> 00:57:56,019 It would be nice to think forgotten will never apply 1412 00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,070 to the brightest of our sports stars, 1413 00:57:58,090 --> 00:58:01,210 but as no less a sage than Conan O'Brien recently noted, 1414 00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:04,269 "eventually all our graves go unattended." 1415 00:58:04,289 --> 00:58:06,190 And that's our show for this evening. 1416 00:58:06,210 --> 00:58:07,239 For all the folks at "Real Sports," 1417 00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:08,289 I'm Bryant Gumbel. 1418 00:58:09,010 --> 00:58:10,090 Thank you so very much for being with us. 1419 00:58:10,110 --> 00:58:12,239 Please stay safe, and good night. 1420 00:58:12,260 --> 00:58:14,079 ♪ ♪ 1421 00:58:14,099 --> 00:58:15,289 Later this week, catch the debut 1422 00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:18,150 of the all-new "Real Sports Podcast," 1423 00:58:18,170 --> 00:58:21,280 featuring audio excerpts of current "Real Sports" segments 1424 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,210 and classic ones too, 1425 00:58:23,230 --> 00:58:26,179 along with brand-new interviews and outtakes. 1426 00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:29,269 It'll be available wherever podcasts can be found. 1427 00:58:29,289 --> 00:58:32,269 [dramatic music] 1428 00:58:32,289 --> 00:58:39,000 ♪ ♪