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‐ Hello, and welcome to

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"Can I Steal You For A Second,"
The Ringer's guide

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to Colton Underwood's season
of "The Bachelor."

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I'm Lauren Zima,
joined by the Bachelorette

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who always has opinions,
Rachel Lindsay.

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[laughter]

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He was known
as the perfect ten.

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Ben Higgins.

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And The Ringer's foremost

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Bachelor Nation expert,
Juliet Litman.

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Let's give ourselves
a round of applause.

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‐ Sure.
‐ Everybody's here.

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A round of applause
for ourselves, for Colton‐‐

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guys, we have a full breakdown
of this season's "Bachelor"

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just ahead of the finale,
so let's get to it.

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I love this idea that
you came up with, Juliet.

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We want to sum up
the season in a tweet,

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and we're each
gonna read our own.

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Rachel, kick us off.

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‐ All right.
This is what I had to say.

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‐ [laughs]
‐ You hit all the points there.

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‐ Yeah.
‐ You hit all the big...

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‐ I'm describing
all the bachelorettes,

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for the most part.
‐ Ben, you got political.

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‐ Of course I did, yeah.
‐ [laughs]

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BEN: I said...

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LAUREN: And you know what?
Only this franchise
could do it.

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I completely agree with you.
‐ Thank you.

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‐ Yes.
Juliet?

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‐ I said...

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‐ A lot of women left.
‐ Yes.

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‐ It did.
It set a record, yes.

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We're not scientific on that,
but I believe it.

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‐ I believe so as well.

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‐ I went for a little bit
of "Clueless" reference

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because of how clueless
Colton seems to be about sex.

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[laughter]
I said...

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"That was way harsh, Tai,"
is what Cher said.

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Was that way harsh of me?

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I feel like that's how we're
gonna remember this season,

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like, "Oh, yeah, the virgin
who jumped the fence,"

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in the best way.
‐ Yeah, yeah.

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‐ They're literally
beat you over the head

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with the fact that he's
a virgin and there's a fence.

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[laughter]

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‐ I also wanna get some grades

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from you guys
on this season so far.

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Factor in Colton
as the Bachelor...

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‐ Yeah.
‐ And the season overall.

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Ben, let's start with you.
What're you giving it?

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‐ You know, it hasn't been
the best season of all time,

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but the last half‐‐incredible.

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B+.
‐ B+, okay.

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Good.
Juliet?

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‐ I think I'm going B+ as well.

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I think it really
picked up around‐‐

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once they left America,
when they got to Asia,

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things got really good,
and it's been exciting and fun,

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and now we have a huge finale
to look forward to,

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so I'm going B+.
‐ Yes.

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I think the contestants
have been great‐‐

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Demi a standout,
Colton has given us tears,

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we've gotten drama.

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I don't know if I'm just
coming off of Arie's season,

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which was so horrible to me‐‐

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Arie Luyendyk's season‐‐
but I'm going A‐.

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I loved this season.
I had so much fun watching it.

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Rachel's shaking her head.

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‐ Well, here we go.
‐ Rachel, okay.

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‐ I gotta divide the season in
half because I agree with you.

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The second half of the season
has been way better,

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but the first half
of the season?

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A "D," a solid "D."
‐ Wow.

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‐ Rachel, okay.
‐ Yeah, yeah.

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I'm being nice
'cause I could've said F.

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And the second half,
I'm gonna go with an A‐.

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‐ Wow, what a turnaround.
‐ Really took it up a notch.

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And it's not‐‐
I wouldn't give it to Colton‐‐

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it's the women.
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The contestants are amazing.

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‐ They've killed it for you.
We had Arie.

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Colton's come back strong.
He's this all‐American guy.

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The women are gorgeous
and they have a lot to say.

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Overall, good season?
We all loved watching this?

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‐ Absolutely.
It was entertaining.
‐ Definitely.

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‐ Let's move into, then,

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how we are getting
into the highlights.

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So, we've broken the season up
into three trimesters

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'cause we're pregnant with
the Colton Underwood baby face.

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[laughter]
We are getting into

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our first trimester,
the first three episodes,

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as we look into the nine eps
we have ahead of the finale.

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Let's get right to it.

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Take a look at the beginning.

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CHRIS: Pulling up
the driveway right now.

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Colton, good luck.

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‐ Thank you.
‐ Let the journey begin.

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‐ So, I have not dated a virgin
since I was 12.

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‐ I am so nervous right now.

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‐ It's okay. I am too.
‐ I have so many butterflies.

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No, I literally
have butterflies.

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‐ Now that
I've popped your cherry...

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‐ [laughs] Oh, boy.
‐ We don't need

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to talk about virginity
anymore.

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‐ Yeah, no more, huh?
‐ Can I take that?

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‐ Yes.
‐ I just took your V card.

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‐ We popped a cherry.
We took a V card.

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We had butterflies in a box,

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which I was so glad they
weren't real butterflies.

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I was worried, like,
a bunch of dead butterflies

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were gonna fall out.

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The question about
the limo entrances is,

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does it help to come in,
like, weird or with a prop,

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or is it better
to just be normal,

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but maybe forgettable
in the beginning?

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What do you guys think?

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‐ I mean, I was always told
if you're not, like,

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that strong of a contestant,

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that it's better
to do something that

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the lead can remember you by.
‐ Mm‐hmm.

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I think‐‐when I look back on,
like, Becca's season, right?

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Garrett ended up with Becca,
and they have

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this great relationship,
and he came in in a minivan,

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which is one of my favorite
entrances of all time.

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‐ I liked it too.
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For me, I was just so excited
to get past the intros.

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I just wanted
to get into the house,

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start this thing,
and get to know the women

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because the show is getting‐‐
I just got nervous.

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‐ But don't you feel like
it breaks the ice a bit?

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Like, if you're the lead,
if you're nervous,

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when you see people come out
and do crazy things,

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and they make you laugh,
it loosens you up a bit.

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‐ It does.
‐ I appreciate it.

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‐ It humanizes the situation

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where it doesn't feel like
reality at all times‐‐

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‐ Does it humanize
the situation...

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[laughing] 'Cause people
are doing some crazy things.

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‐ JoJo went out to you with
a unicorn mask on, Ben.

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‐ I forgot about that.
‐ She was special too.

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‐ Juliet, what would
your entrance be?

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‐ Oh, no.
[laughter]

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I don't‐‐
I would be so awkward.

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It would be unbearable,
but I wouldn't need a prop

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because otherwise,
I would just be so weird.

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I wouldn't know
where to put my hands.

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I would, like,
wanna make eye contact.

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You know,
it'll get too intense.

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It would go‐‐
it would go really poorly,

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so I would just need something

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probably related
to "Romeo and Juliet."

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It's the easiest thing.
‐ Would you wear a costume?

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I feel like what you described,
you'd wear a costume.

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‐ You'd nail that.

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Juliet, I would watch that
in a second.

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‐ If I was, like...
[stammers]

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I'm Juliet,
and you're my Romeo?

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‐ Yes.
‐ Ooh.

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‐ I mean, I guess...
‐ We just figured it out.

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We've got a panel
of experts here.

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‐ She's been thinking
about that before.

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[laughter]

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‐ Let's check out more of these
first couple episodes.

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‐ [laughs]
‐ You got it.

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[sirens wailing]

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‐ So, I'm a wardrobe stylist,

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but tonight,
I'm the fashion police.

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‐ I got you your favorite
brand of underwear.

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[both laugh]

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‐ I love it.
‐ I had to do it.

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‐ I'm Catherine.
‐ Catherine.

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‐ I'm confident I'm gonna make
the best impression on him.

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Excuse me.
I'm so sorry to interrupt.

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Hi again.
‐ How are you?

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Do you mind if I interrupt?
‐ Hi.

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‐ Can I have another
few moments with you?

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‐ Can I steal you for a second?

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Catherine came out and
we kinda thought she was gonna

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be the season's villain
because of how many times‐‐

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I mean,
she set a record, maybe,

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for the most times
interrupting time.

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Is there a right way
to do that?

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Is it awkward?

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What's it like
in real mansion life?

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‐ I mean, let's put ourselves
in a real‐life scenario.

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‐ Okay, Ben.
‐ You're at a‐‐a park.

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‐ [laughs]

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‐ And there's somebody
you wanna talk to.

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And they're off to the side
amongst a big crowd of people.

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They're entertaining
these people, right?

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‐ Uh‐huh.
‐ They're juggling
or something.

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‐ What?
You go to juggling parties?
‐ What party are you at?

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‐ I love to juggle.

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‐ Okay.
‐ I can't juggle.

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Anyways,
track with me for a second.

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And you wanna talk to them.

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How are you gonna
interrupt a situation

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to get their time?

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You're gonna tap them on the
shoulder and you're gonna say,

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"Hey."
‐ [nasal voice] Hi.

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[laughs]
‐ You're a nerd.

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[laughter]

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‐ "Hi, can I steal you
for a second?

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Can I interrupt you?
I need to talk to you."

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So, yeah.
This is the best way to do it.

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‐ Do you get any advice because

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you're the lead and you're
having to handle all that?

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You're the contestant.
You're new to all of this.

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Whether you're
a contestant or lead,

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do producers give you
some advice about night one,

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because there's a lot
to comprehend?

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‐ No, I think
it's more like, "enjoy it."

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It's a super fun night.
Everybody's nervous.

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It's the first time,
you know,

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for some people,
you're ever on camera.

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For the lead, it's the first
time you're holding this role.

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You don't get any direction.
Did you get it?

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‐ Zero direction.
‐ Yeah.

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‐ It was like,
you're in a house.

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You go to the mansion.
You put your suit on.

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It gets dark outside.
You walk down.

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Chris is standing there.
"All right, here you go."

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And the limo pulls up...
‐ It happens so quick.

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‐ Yeah, no direction,
no coaching.

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‐ Okay, I don't know if I...
‐ I remember I was like,

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"Wait, wait, right now?
Right now?"

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And he's like, "No, yeah, yeah.
Here we go. First limo."

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‐ Here we go, okay.
I know. You were like,

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"I'm gonna be the first one
out of this limo too."

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‐ Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like,
"No, I sweat easily.

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Like, "I can't‐‐I gotta be the
first one out to meet Nick."

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They were like, "Okay."
‐ Rachel was working it.

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Okay, more scenes.

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‐ Ladies, I'm sorry.
You did not receive a rose.

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Take a moment.
Say your good‐byes.

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‐ Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?

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‐ So,
for most of my adult life,

238
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I had a secret.
I was a virgin.

239
00:07:46,666 --> 00:07:48,702
‐ You wanna go chitchat?

240
00:07:48,702 --> 00:07:51,037
‐ Yeah, let's go.
‐ Let's do it.

241
00:07:51,037 --> 00:07:54,007
‐ Instantly,
Demi grabs him again.

242
00:07:54,007 --> 00:07:55,842
DEMI: I think that Colton
will realize that

243
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he needs a girl in his life
who is more,

244
00:07:58,211 --> 00:08:00,046
you know, bold and confident,

245
00:08:00,046 --> 00:08:02,849
and to take a bit more
of a dominant role.

246
00:08:02,849 --> 00:08:04,384
‐ She took a dominant role.

247
00:08:04,384 --> 00:08:07,053
Demi paddled Colton.
She blindfolded him.

248
00:08:07,053 --> 00:08:09,189
Juliet, how quickly
did you fall for Demi,

249
00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:10,357
and what do you love about her?

250
00:08:10,357 --> 00:08:11,858
‐ Oh, so quickly.
‐ [laughs]

251
00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:14,060
‐ Well, in her intro package
in the first episode,

252
00:08:14,060 --> 00:08:15,862
she does talk about
how her mom is in prison.

253
00:08:15,862 --> 00:08:17,597
So, right away,

254
00:08:17,597 --> 00:08:19,265
she's different from
everyone else and you're like,

255
00:08:19,265 --> 00:08:20,667
"Oh, okay.
She has a story."

256
00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:22,402
And then she just becomes
the go‐to sound bite

257
00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:24,704
incredibly quickly,
and if it weren't for her,

258
00:08:24,704 --> 00:08:25,972
it would've been
much more of a slog

259
00:08:25,972 --> 00:08:27,407
through the
first three episodes.

260
00:08:27,407 --> 00:08:29,743
‐ Absolutely.
We saw Demi versus Tracy.

261
00:08:29,743 --> 00:08:32,412
We saw Demi versus Courtney.

262
00:08:32,412 --> 00:08:35,215
In those beginning stages,
how seriously are you guys,

263
00:08:35,215 --> 00:08:37,017
as leads, taking the drama?

264
00:08:37,017 --> 00:08:38,651
Like, are you wanting
to hear about it?

265
00:08:38,651 --> 00:08:39,819
Are you not wanting
to hear about it?

266
00:08:39,819 --> 00:08:41,921
Do you believe it,
or is everybody crazy 'cause

267
00:08:41,921 --> 00:08:44,124
they've moved into the mansion
and this process is so bizarre?

268
00:08:44,124 --> 00:08:45,592
‐ I think it's
a big misconception that

269
00:08:45,592 --> 00:08:48,194
we know about all of the drama
that's going on in the house.

270
00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:50,263
They truly do separate us,

271
00:08:50,263 --> 00:08:52,866
and the only time we know
that there is drama

272
00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:54,601
is if you just happen
to hear it in the house,

273
00:08:54,601 --> 00:08:56,669
like if somebody's
yelling like crazy,

274
00:08:56,669 --> 00:08:59,372
or if somebody comes and
tattles on the next person,

275
00:08:59,372 --> 00:09:02,442
which I find the men
to be quite more petty

276
00:09:02,442 --> 00:09:03,710
than the women.
‐ Oh?

277
00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,545
The men loved to tattle

278
00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:07,981
and snitch on the other men.

279
00:09:07,981 --> 00:09:10,116
‐ And I didn't hate it
because early on,

280
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you're trying to catch up,

281
00:09:11,317 --> 00:09:13,319
and you're trying to understand
the whole situation.

282
00:09:13,319 --> 00:09:15,288
So, when somebody
does come to you with,

283
00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:17,624
"Oh, you know,
these people aren't here
for the right reasons,"

284
00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:20,026
or, "This person's mean
and they're, you know,

285
00:09:20,026 --> 00:09:22,529
fighting in the house,"
it's good for us because

286
00:09:22,529 --> 00:09:25,265
it gives us information that
we wouldn't have and allows us

287
00:09:25,265 --> 00:09:27,734
to make a fair judgment when
it comes to rose ceremonies.

288
00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:29,502
‐ And it allows you
to talk about something

289
00:09:29,502 --> 00:09:31,571
with people that
you're not really that into.

290
00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:32,739
That's what I did.

291
00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:33,940
‐ You like the
talking points, basically.

292
00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:35,608
‐ Yeah, I was like, "Yeah,
tell me about that again,

293
00:09:35,608 --> 00:09:36,876
"'cause we don't have
anything else to talk about.

294
00:09:36,876 --> 00:09:38,912
You're going home tonight."
[laughter]

295
00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,713
‐ We had some
super strong women.

296
00:09:40,713 --> 00:09:42,182
We gotta see
Hannah B. and Caelynn.

297
00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:43,283
‐ So,
I know it's your birthday.

298
00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:44,451
‐ Mm‐hmm.

299
00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:45,885
‐ So, we are going
to make a toast.

300
00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:48,721
‐ [laughs]
I can't do this.

301
00:09:48,721 --> 00:09:50,390
CAELYNN: Hannah B. and I
know each other,

302
00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:52,759
and we're not necessarily
the best of friends.

303
00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:54,794
We were roommates at Miss USA.

304
00:09:54,794 --> 00:09:57,263
She was not happy that
I was first runner‐up.

305
00:09:57,263 --> 00:09:59,232
She was mad she didn't place.

306
00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:01,301
‐ I haven't kissed
anyone before.

307
00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:03,303
‐ You've never kissed anyone?
‐ No.

308
00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:05,271
I know.
‐ Really?

309
00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,841
‐ Yeah.
It's so‐‐it's so different.

310
00:10:07,841 --> 00:10:08,975
<i>[dramatic music]</i>

311
00:10:08,975 --> 00:10:10,543
KATIE: Tonight is the
second cocktail party.

312
00:10:10,543 --> 00:10:11,778
It's the second rose ceremony,

313
00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:14,481
and girls are on edge.

314
00:10:14,481 --> 00:10:16,082
CHRIS:
It's the final rose tonight.

315
00:10:16,082 --> 00:10:18,585
‐ Tracy?

316
00:10:18,585 --> 00:10:20,587
ANNIE: I don't feel like
he got to know me.

317
00:10:20,587 --> 00:10:22,388
I don't feel like
I got to know him,

318
00:10:22,388 --> 00:10:25,592
and that was my biggest fear,
and it happened.

319
00:10:25,592 --> 00:10:26,860
‐ Yeah, her biggest fear
was realized.

320
00:10:26,860 --> 00:10:28,261
We didn't get to know her.
I don't know who that was...

321
00:10:28,261 --> 00:10:30,463
[laughs]
But her dress looked great.

322
00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,465
Rachel, I wanna ask you.

323
00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:34,901
How much thought,
money, whatever,

324
00:10:34,901 --> 00:10:37,904
did you put into the gowns and
the outfits that you brought,

325
00:10:37,904 --> 00:10:40,907
because older seasons,
people will say, like,

326
00:10:40,907 --> 00:10:42,175
"I just grabbed stuff
out of my closest,"

327
00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:43,309
and now it's, like, full glam.

328
00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,111
‐ Yeah, I think I asked
some producers, like,

329
00:10:45,111 --> 00:10:46,980
"What am I supposed to do
when it comes to wardrobe?"

330
00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:48,982
And they just kinda said, "You
have to provide it yourself."

331
00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,150
So I thought, okay,

332
00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:51,651
what's the most
cost‐efficient way to do this?

333
00:10:51,651 --> 00:10:54,654
I went to a store and I said,
"Hey, I'm gonna be on a show.

334
00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:57,624
"I can't tell you what it is,
but I can feature your gowns.

335
00:10:57,624 --> 00:10:59,659
I need about seven to eight."

336
00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:01,794
And they said, "Okay."
They just let me sign it.

337
00:11:01,794 --> 00:11:03,596
I said, "I'll Instagram it."
‐ Yes.

338
00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:06,332
‐ And I had great gowns
for Nick's season.

339
00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:08,101
‐ You did.
‐ It didn't cost a thing.

340
00:11:08,101 --> 00:11:11,237
‐ We saw Hannah B. and
Caelynn‐‐the beginnings there.

341
00:11:11,237 --> 00:11:13,273
They had such an
interesting relationship to me

342
00:11:13,273 --> 00:11:15,308
because at the start
of the season,

343
00:11:15,308 --> 00:11:16,776
when fans are
seeing it all go down,

344
00:11:16,776 --> 00:11:18,111
everybody was Team Caelynn,

345
00:11:18,111 --> 00:11:19,913
and then I think,
later, things took a turn.

346
00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:22,048
In the beginning,
Juliet, where were you at?

347
00:11:22,048 --> 00:11:23,149
‐ Definitely Team Caelynn

348
00:11:23,149 --> 00:11:24,584
'cause I think
the main difference was

349
00:11:24,584 --> 00:11:27,854
you saw Caelynn talking
to Colton about Hannah B.

350
00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:30,390
You saw Hannah B. talking
to other women about Caelynn.

351
00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:32,192
And so, it was much easier
to side with the one

352
00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:34,994
who kind of wanted to have
the conversation straight on,

353
00:11:34,994 --> 00:11:36,563
and not, like,
just talk about

354
00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:39,399
the other women
behind her back, basically.

355
00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:41,701
‐ All right, so let's take
one final look.

356
00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:44,504
MALE ANNOUNCER: This is the
story of Captain Colton.

357
00:11:44,504 --> 00:11:46,573
[women cheering]
HANNAH B: It's not easy to see

358
00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:49,976
Caelynn continue moving
forward with Colton.

359
00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:52,545
And he needs to know tonight.

360
00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,881
Basically, like,
me and Caelynn‐‐

361
00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:56,382
we were friends.

362
00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:58,685
Like, we were roommates
at Miss USA,

363
00:11:58,685 --> 00:12:01,254
which is already, like,
a really intense situation,

364
00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:03,523
and I think we handle stress
a lot differently.

365
00:12:03,523 --> 00:12:06,059
‐ There's a beautiful monster
inside of me,

366
00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:08,861
and today,
I'm gonna have to let it out.

367
00:12:08,861 --> 00:12:10,396
‐ Okay.
What?

368
00:12:10,396 --> 00:12:13,399
‐ [roars softly]

369
00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,502
<i>[dramatic music]</i>

370
00:12:16,502 --> 00:12:18,071
‐ How did that growl happen?
‐ It's amazing.

371
00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:19,672
‐ I was trying to drink
during the whole growl.

372
00:12:19,672 --> 00:12:20,773
‐ [laughs]

373
00:12:20,773 --> 00:12:22,775
‐ Did a producer
ask her to do that?

374
00:12:22,775 --> 00:12:24,477
‐ I doubt it.
‐ [laughs] You doubt it?

375
00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:26,512
‐ I think she‐‐
I think yes.

376
00:12:26,512 --> 00:12:28,248
I think she did it on her own
and they said,

377
00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:30,583
"Actually, can you hold that
for a little bit longer?"

378
00:12:30,583 --> 00:12:31,985
That's what I think.

379
00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:33,720
‐ I know from Olivia
on my season,

380
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,521
she had the open‐mouth thing.
‐ Yeah.

381
00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:36,990
‐ And that wasn't put on
by the producers.

382
00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:38,258
‐ No, that was her thing.
‐ Look, I'm glad.

383
00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:39,659
It was good TV.

384
00:12:39,659 --> 00:12:42,295
Ben, what were your thoughts
on Caelynn versus Hannah,

385
00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:45,265
because I kinda felt
Hannah was more emotional.

386
00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:46,566
Caelynn was more poised.

387
00:12:46,566 --> 00:12:48,835
And this is maybe why
it made it look like

388
00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:50,603
Caelynn was the one to side
with this in this argument.

389
00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:52,705
We never really knew what
they were arguing about.

390
00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:54,407
‐ Yeah, so,
I would look at it like‐‐

391
00:12:54,407 --> 00:12:56,542
Caelynn was the one that
was kinda in the background.

392
00:12:56,542 --> 00:12:57,710
Hannah was talking
about it a lot,

393
00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:59,312
talking about it
with women in the house,

394
00:12:59,312 --> 00:13:00,980
and so we kinda felt‐‐
I felt like

395
00:13:00,980 --> 00:13:04,317
she was instigating a situation
that didn't really exist,

396
00:13:04,317 --> 00:13:06,319
and so then,
Caelynn was off to the side

397
00:13:06,319 --> 00:13:09,856
almost feeling like the victim
of this fight.

398
00:13:09,856 --> 00:13:12,492
And so, I sided with Caelynn

399
00:13:12,492 --> 00:13:14,394
because I thought Hannah
was always talking about it,

400
00:13:14,394 --> 00:13:16,329
wouldn't let it go,
and that Caelynn was just

401
00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:17,730
trying to move on with Colton
the whole time,

402
00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:19,532
which is why they were there.

403
00:13:19,532 --> 00:13:20,867
‐ Rachel?

404
00:13:20,867 --> 00:13:24,103
‐ I mean...
[laughter]

405
00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:25,838
‐ I definitely was‐‐
I'm like Juliet.

406
00:13:25,838 --> 00:13:27,907
I was Team Caelynn
in the beginning,

407
00:13:27,907 --> 00:13:29,409
but that's just because
I didn't think Hannah B.

408
00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:31,110
articulated well

409
00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:32,945
what the issue was
or how she was feeling.

410
00:13:32,945 --> 00:13:35,248
So, you kinda had no choice.
It was like, "Okay, we get it."

411
00:13:35,248 --> 00:13:36,916
Like, Caelynn sounds like
she has the better argument.

412
00:13:36,916 --> 00:13:38,351
‐ Guys, I was frustrated too

413
00:13:38,351 --> 00:13:40,520
because it was very,
"She said, she said."

414
00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,323
We don't know what these issues
were, really, with them,

415
00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:46,526
pageant gate‐wise,
and we were rehashing it all.

416
00:13:46,526 --> 00:13:48,161
And that's what frustrated me.

417
00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:50,229
I wanted Colton to ask
for direct evidence.

418
00:13:50,229 --> 00:13:51,998
Like,
"What exactly happened here?"

419
00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:53,733
Did you feel like you should've
been more direct with them?

420
00:13:53,733 --> 00:13:56,169
‐ 100%.
As the Bachelor
and Bachelorette,

421
00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:57,937
one of the things that
you have to do

422
00:13:57,937 --> 00:13:59,639
is kinda lead this
and guide this,

423
00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:01,574
and the only information
you're gonna get

424
00:14:01,574 --> 00:14:03,343
is information you ask for,

425
00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:04,711
unless somebody
randomly comes to you,

426
00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:06,946
but that's not really evidence
you wanna take anyway.

427
00:14:06,946 --> 00:14:08,214
So, you have to dig in.

428
00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:09,916
When somebody comes to you
wanting to tell you something,

429
00:14:09,916 --> 00:14:12,452
like, sitting down and saying,
"There's women here
not for the right reasons,"

430
00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:15,321
or "Hey, Caelynn and Hannah B.
aren't getting along,"

431
00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:16,723
ask follow‐up questions.

432
00:14:16,723 --> 00:14:18,157
Say,
"Why aren't you getting along?

433
00:14:18,157 --> 00:14:19,559
"What is the backstory here?

434
00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,227
"How do we resolve this

435
00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:23,262
"so that your focus
isn't on the fight,

436
00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:25,598
but on the relationship
with me?"

437
00:14:25,598 --> 00:14:27,800
‐ We are here to dig in.
More to come.

438
00:14:31,904 --> 00:14:34,440
LAUREN: When you're trying
to remember all the names,

439
00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,944
what point in the season do you
start really remembering?

440
00:14:37,944 --> 00:14:41,114
‐ For me, it‐‐
I did word associations.

441
00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:43,449
So, when somebody would come up
in the limo and they would say,

442
00:14:43,449 --> 00:14:45,852
"Hi, I'm Rachel,
and I like sports."

443
00:14:45,852 --> 00:14:48,421
I would, in my head,
come up with a little song.

444
00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:50,723
♪ Rachel likes sports,
sports likes Rachel ♪

445
00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:52,325
‐ [laughs]
‐ And then I would be able to

446
00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:53,693
to associate
those two things together.

447
00:14:53,693 --> 00:14:55,461
So, we had something to talk
about, and I knew her name.

448
00:14:55,461 --> 00:14:56,696
‐ I love it.
‐ I have an important question.

449
00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:58,164
Were you wearing a cool belt
at the time?

450
00:14:58,164 --> 00:15:00,700
[laughter]
‐ No belt.

451
00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:02,368
No belt, just like‐‐
‐ It was back in season.

452
00:15:02,368 --> 00:15:03,703
‐ Okay, okay.
‐ Yeah, not yet.

453
00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:05,505
It was fashionable.
‐ Rachel, could you?

454
00:15:05,505 --> 00:15:08,441
‐ For me,
I wasn't as skilled as Ben.

455
00:15:08,441 --> 00:15:10,410
I definitely didn't
have a system there.

456
00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:13,846
I just‐‐
I would go with general terms.

457
00:15:13,846 --> 00:15:15,982
"Hey, you.
Hey, boo.

458
00:15:15,982 --> 00:15:17,383
Hey, there."
‐ [laughs]

459
00:15:17,383 --> 00:15:19,385
‐ And midway
through the season,

460
00:15:19,385 --> 00:15:20,920
named started
to register for me.

461
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,789
But I never forgot a face.
‐ Can I ask you one‐‐

462
00:15:22,789 --> 00:15:24,323
‐ I was like,
"He belongs on my season."

463
00:15:24,323 --> 00:15:27,026
[laughter]
‐ There's no way
to prove that though.

464
00:15:27,026 --> 00:15:28,561
We have to just take you
on your word on that

465
00:15:28,561 --> 00:15:30,396
because there's no way
to fact check it or anything.

466
00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:33,866
‐ No.
‐ When did you remember
Bryan's name?

467
00:15:33,866 --> 00:15:36,436
‐ So, the first night,
I kept saying,

468
00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:38,304
"Where's that guy
who spoke to me in Spanish?

469
00:15:38,304 --> 00:15:39,539
Bring him back."
ALL: Mmm.

470
00:15:39,539 --> 00:15:42,542
‐ That's‐‐I really couldn't
remember his name at first.

471
00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:44,243
‐ But you remembered that
he was speaking to you...

472
00:15:44,243 --> 00:15:46,446
‐ But after he kissed me,
I remembered.
‐ Oh, okay.

473
00:15:46,446 --> 00:15:48,781
Okay, and the rest is history.
‐ And I never forgot, yes.

474
00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:50,716
‐ So, with each trimester,

475
00:15:50,716 --> 00:15:53,152
we're gonna give some awards,
some winners, some losers,

476
00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:55,121
because that's what
"The Bachelor" and "The
Bachelorette's" about, right?

477
00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,289
Winning, right?
RACHEL: Yes.

478
00:15:56,289 --> 00:15:57,523
LAUREN: Or, getting‐‐
RACHEL: Sure.

479
00:15:57,523 --> 00:15:59,358
LAUREN: Yeah...
[laughs]

480
00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:02,528
First up, our winner
of the first trimester‐‐

481
00:16:02,528 --> 00:16:04,397
I think we can all agree.
Demi.

482
00:16:04,397 --> 00:16:06,399
‐ Demi.
‐ 100%.

483
00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:09,235
‐ I mean, she is such
a standout contestant to me,

484
00:16:09,235 --> 00:16:10,703
checks all the boxes.

485
00:16:10,703 --> 00:16:13,506
She gave us catchphrases.
She gave us drama.

486
00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:14,974
She gave us some sexuality.

487
00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:16,843
She was kind of emotional

488
00:16:16,843 --> 00:16:18,444
at different points
throughout the season too.

489
00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:20,313
Is there anything else that
you would've wanted from Demi?

490
00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:21,747
‐ She also gave us
a lot of fighting.

491
00:16:21,747 --> 00:16:22,982
‐ Yes.
‐ Very quickly.

492
00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:25,718
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ Like, she was fighting
with Tracy.

493
00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:27,053
She ended up fighting
with Courtney‐‐

494
00:16:27,053 --> 00:16:28,654
just a lot of fighting
back and forth.

495
00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,156
I enjoyed it.
‐ Just all the fighting.

496
00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,624
‐ [laughs] Yeah.
‐ Demi was great.

497
00:16:31,624 --> 00:16:33,092
‐ Ben, how would you
have reacted to Demi?

498
00:16:33,092 --> 00:16:35,528
‐ I think I would've enjoyed
just being around Demi.

499
00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:37,463
Like, she's entertaining.

500
00:16:37,463 --> 00:16:41,200
We've described her before
in conversations as a pest,

501
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,502
but a very lovable pest,

502
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,270
like, somebody who sits next
to you and you just laugh at

503
00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:46,205
because they're always
in on something.

504
00:16:46,205 --> 00:16:48,841
‐ I mean,
she gave Colton a massage.

505
00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,443
‐ I'd like that.
I would like that.

506
00:16:50,443 --> 00:16:52,378
‐ She would've been my friend
in the house, for sure.

507
00:16:52,378 --> 00:16:53,379
‐ Yeah.
‐ I mean, if you remember,

508
00:16:53,379 --> 00:16:55,448
I'm good friends with Corinne.
‐ Yeah.

509
00:16:55,448 --> 00:16:57,350
Yeah, she's like a similar type
of archetype.

510
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,719
‐ Corinne and Jason,
a little less...

511
00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:01,487
dirty on the catchphrases
than Corinne.

512
00:17:01,487 --> 00:17:03,789
‐ Yeah, totally.
‐ Yeah, not calling
any body parts "platinum."

513
00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:05,925
‐ You can also tell
the other women liked Demi...

514
00:17:05,925 --> 00:17:07,226
‐ Yes, they liked Demi.
‐ Quite a bit.

515
00:17:07,226 --> 00:17:08,761
And I saw,
like, on social media,

516
00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:10,663
they all refer to her
as a Polly Pocket,

517
00:17:10,663 --> 00:17:11,831
which I just think is,
like, pretty endearing.

518
00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:13,699
‐ Oh, my God.
That's what I used to
call Kristina.

519
00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:14,967
‐ Yeah.
‐ All right.

520
00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:17,637
We're also giving a loser
to this season,

521
00:17:17,637 --> 00:17:20,306
and it was some
of the women who Demi
went head‐to‐head with.

522
00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:21,707
The losers were women

523
00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:24,777
who didn't consider 30
that old.

524
00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:27,847
The age thing came up
a lot this season,
and we have a little clip.

525
00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:29,882
[crowd shouting]

526
00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:32,418
‐ Elyse and her performance‐‐
she got up there and she was

527
00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:34,787
willing to admit that she was
older in front of everybody.

528
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,689
I thought she was so brave
for doing that.

529
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:39,659
I mean, there's no advantage
to being an older woman here.

530
00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:40,993
‐ What?

531
00:17:40,993 --> 00:17:42,562
‐ How did we feel about
this discussion?

532
00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:44,297
Juliet has a lot of opinion.
‐ It's offensive.

533
00:17:44,297 --> 00:17:45,598
I mean, it's ridiculous.

534
00:17:45,598 --> 00:17:47,867
As someone over 30,

535
00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:50,136
I don't think I would be at a
huge disadvantage on this show,

536
00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:51,837
but also, I've never been on,

537
00:17:51,837 --> 00:17:53,072
so I can't really say,
but you‐‐

538
00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:54,373
Rachel,
not to put you on the spot,

539
00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:55,908
but you were over 30
when you were on.
‐ No.

540
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,311
I was the oldest person in the
house when I was on the show,

541
00:17:58,311 --> 00:18:00,580
and we've talked about this
at great length, like...
‐ Yeah.

542
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,516
‐ When I was on the show,
I knew I was gonna be
the oldest one going in.

543
00:18:03,516 --> 00:18:06,786
I thought I wouldn't get along.
I thought I'd be so different
from the women.

544
00:18:06,786 --> 00:18:08,154
I didn't have
the same experience,

545
00:18:08,154 --> 00:18:10,923
but nobody
"30‐shamed" me either,
however you would say that.

546
00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:13,059
‐ Sure.
‐ Nobody shamed me
for being 31 at all...

547
00:18:13,059 --> 00:18:14,260
[chuckles]
'Cause they knew better.

548
00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:15,628
[laughter]

549
00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:17,930
‐ Well, it became‐‐
Demi and Tracy went
head‐to‐head about it,

550
00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:19,799
later, Demi and Courtney.

551
00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:22,702
And I actually got more
frustrated at the women

552
00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:24,103
who were in their thirties,

553
00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:25,671
and who were calling themselves
"the cougars den."

554
00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:28,207
I was like,
"Don't do that to yourself.
No, no, no."

555
00:18:28,207 --> 00:18:29,442
‐ Yeah, you don't need
to take that on.

556
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,978
‐ And if the roles
were reversed,
if it was a...

557
00:18:31,978 --> 00:18:34,113
26‐year‐old Bachelorette
and a 30‐year‐old guy,

558
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,281
the jokes wouldn't
have even been made.

559
00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:36,449
It wouldn't have
even been a thing.

560
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,717
So I was like,
"Yeah, don't take that on."

561
00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:40,052
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ It was a real
double standard.

562
00:18:40,052 --> 00:18:43,155
‐ All right, next up,
a winner‐‐

563
00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:45,725
the Miss USA competition.
‐ Oh, yes.

564
00:18:45,725 --> 00:18:48,527
‐ Hannah, Caelynn‐‐
I mean,

565
00:18:48,527 --> 00:18:50,730
had we all been talking about
Miss USA before this?

566
00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,865
I certainly had not.
‐ I was not.

567
00:18:52,865 --> 00:18:55,368
I also learned that
the rules for what state

568
00:18:55,368 --> 00:18:57,970
you can represent might
be loose because as we know,

569
00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:01,440
Caelynn was from Virginia,
but she was representing
North Carolina.

570
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,042
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ Having not lived there
for very long.

571
00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:04,910
And I was like,
"Oh, interesting."
So, you could just move?

572
00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:06,646
There's no, like, long‐term‐‐

573
00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:08,614
you need to be there for a year
or anything like that?

574
00:19:08,614 --> 00:19:10,049
I wasn't sure how that worked.

575
00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:12,785
‐ I actually think that's
a thing people hop around.

576
00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:14,620
Like, if they don't win
in one city or one state,

577
00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:15,921
they hop around to try to win.

578
00:19:15,921 --> 00:19:17,490
‐ The Twittersphere
has reminded us that

579
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:20,259
Hannah G. actually lost
to Hannah B.

580
00:19:20,259 --> 00:19:21,861
but she didn't become
part of pageant gate.

581
00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:24,363
It was never mentioned that
she was also in the pageant.

582
00:19:24,363 --> 00:19:25,998
‐ Oh, she was in pag‐‐
‐ Yes.

583
00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:27,533
‐ What the?
‐ [laughs]

584
00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:28,801
‐ I'm just finding this out?

585
00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:31,303
‐ But can we give kudos
to casting?

586
00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:32,938
Like, that's really good that‐‐

587
00:19:32,938 --> 00:19:35,574
I don't know how they found
all three of these women
a part of the same pageant,

588
00:19:35,574 --> 00:19:37,910
but I think that's pretty
awesome 'cause that's a good

589
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:40,579
conversation piece,
and obviously,
part of the drama in the house.

590
00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:42,848
‐ Did you believe when
Hannah B. and Caelynn

591
00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:44,984
said they had no idea the other
was doing "The Bachelor"?

592
00:19:44,984 --> 00:19:46,185
‐ No.
‐ No.

593
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:47,987
‐ [laughs]
‐ No.

594
00:19:47,987 --> 00:19:49,855
You're sending it out
to all your friends.

595
00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,058
Those pageant girls
are talking.
"Oh, my gosh.

596
00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:54,260
Hannah's going on "The
Bachelorette"‐‐or, "Bachelor."

597
00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:56,062
And I know one of them
tells Caelynn,

598
00:19:56,062 --> 00:19:57,463
and Caelynn says it back.

599
00:19:57,463 --> 00:19:59,598
They all knew.
They're hiding this.

600
00:19:59,598 --> 00:20:01,467
Just be honest.
‐ That's what I'm saying.

601
00:20:01,467 --> 00:20:04,470
Just say, "Yeah,
I knew she was gonna be here,
and I was ready for her."

602
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:07,173
‐ I gotta give the show credit
because 23 seasons in,

603
00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:09,775
a pageant gate storyline‐‐
who knew?
Who knew?

604
00:20:09,775 --> 00:20:11,377
‐ You'd think that
would've happened sooner.

605
00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:13,345
It's pretty amazing
they're still finding new ways

606
00:20:13,345 --> 00:20:14,847
to bring in, like,
organic drama

607
00:20:14,847 --> 00:20:16,048
they don't even
have to fabricate.

608
00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:18,117
‐ I know.
‐ It's pretty special.
I admire it.

609
00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:20,786
‐ It was very grounded
in reality on the reality show
this season.

610
00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:22,054
‐ It's true.

611
00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:23,789
‐ Another loser‐‐

612
00:20:23,789 --> 00:20:25,591
oh, the woman who
made all the sounds.

613
00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:26,759
Onyeka.

614
00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:28,227
‐ [whistles]

615
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:31,664
Colton, I heard you were
drowning in some bitches.

616
00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:35,434
‐ I was not a fan of Onyeka
and the foghorns and the‐‐

617
00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:37,970
it's like, don't say
"drowning B's" one more time.

618
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:40,039
‐ Ugh.
‐ "Ugh."
She's shaking her head.

619
00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,308
‐ I‐‐for several reasons,
she bothered me.

620
00:20:42,308 --> 00:20:43,709
One, she's from Dallas.

621
00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:44,877
‐ Oh.
‐ Oh.

622
00:20:44,877 --> 00:20:46,445
‐ Two...
‐ You're personally offended.

623
00:20:46,445 --> 00:20:48,147
‐ Two, she's a woman of color.

624
00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:50,316
There aren't‐‐we don't have
that much representation

625
00:20:50,316 --> 00:20:52,985
on the show, so the fact
that she kept saying,

626
00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:55,454
you know, "drowning,"
and "B's" multiple times,

627
00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:57,289
it was this‐‐
it was terrible the first time.

628
00:20:57,289 --> 00:20:58,724
It was even worse
the second time.
‐ Yeah.

629
00:20:58,724 --> 00:21:00,526
‐ I guess, like, it just...
[groans]

630
00:21:00,526 --> 00:21:03,129
Just the representation of her
just really bothered me.

631
00:21:03,129 --> 00:21:06,332
‐ Well, and as much as pageant
gate felt grounded in reality,

632
00:21:06,332 --> 00:21:08,100
nothing Onyeka was doing
felt real to me.

633
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:09,435
I'm like, it's all props‐based.

634
00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:11,003
It's‐‐
you're using this one phrase

635
00:21:11,003 --> 00:21:12,471
you've come up with
over and over.

636
00:21:12,471 --> 00:21:13,839
It got real tired
real quick for me.

637
00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:16,842
‐ And I think the‐‐like,
the second rose ceremony,

638
00:21:16,842 --> 00:21:18,511
she came with an air horn
and was playing it,

639
00:21:18,511 --> 00:21:20,379
and she was like, "Colton,
are you feeling horny?"

640
00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:21,647
And it's like,
maybe the first night,

641
00:21:21,647 --> 00:21:24,884
you can do the whole
"drowning in bitches" thing‐‐

642
00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:27,453
‐ I didn't even get that pun.
That went right over my head.

643
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:28,921
‐ Well, my, like‐‐
has this worked‐‐

644
00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:31,090
[stammers] I thought,
has this worked for you before?

645
00:21:31,090 --> 00:21:32,858
Is this what you do with
other men outside of this?

646
00:21:32,858 --> 00:21:33,993
You use props?

647
00:21:33,993 --> 00:21:36,162
Like, why would you think
that would work on the show?

648
00:21:36,162 --> 00:21:37,596
‐ Clearly not.
‐ That's the best question.

649
00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:38,697
That was what
I was thinking is,

650
00:21:38,697 --> 00:21:40,800
has this‐‐would this work
with any guy or any girl?

651
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,967
Like, if I showed up
to stage with, like‐‐

652
00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:43,502
‐ No, you didn't bring
a foghorn to a date, guys.

653
00:21:43,502 --> 00:21:45,104
‐ No, that doesn't work.
‐ No.

654
00:21:45,104 --> 00:21:47,239
‐ So, why does she think
it's gonna work here?

655
00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:48,607
‐ All right, next up,

656
00:21:48,607 --> 00:21:51,510
we are giving a win
to vlogging.

657
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:53,045
‐ Yes.
‐ The show introduced

658
00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:54,647
vlogging this season.

659
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:56,982
Colton talking
right to the camera,

660
00:21:56,982 --> 00:21:58,584
which might've been an iPhone.

661
00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:01,387
Rachel, you're already
laughing at this.

662
00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:03,823
I like when they try
new things 23 seasons in.

663
00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,324
You weren't a fan?
‐ Not likely.

664
00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:06,592
[laughter]
‐ No.

665
00:22:06,592 --> 00:22:08,494
‐ It just did‐‐it didn't seem‐‐
you didn't like it either?

666
00:22:08,494 --> 00:22:09,662
‐ I didn't like‐‐
he looked exhausted

667
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:10,930
every time he was doing it.
‐ [laughs]

668
00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:12,765
‐ I always felt like
I was intrusive on his space.

669
00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:15,000
He's in his bed, like,
curled up in the covers.

670
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,403
I felt like I'm watching some,
like, weird Instagram story.

671
00:22:17,403 --> 00:22:18,571
‐ Well, and I thought
I was gonna get, like,

672
00:22:18,571 --> 00:22:20,840
an in‐depth analysis
or maybe something‐‐

673
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,007
he was gonna
tell us something new.

674
00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:24,710
At one point he said,
"Good morning. It's morning."

675
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:26,779
And I thought,
"All right, let it go.

676
00:22:26,779 --> 00:22:29,281
[laughter]
Let it go."

677
00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:32,184
‐ Let's bring it back
a bit of a loser award.

678
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:35,120
Our Roughest Edit award
goes to Tracy

679
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,722
because man, oh, man,

680
00:22:36,722 --> 00:22:38,123
this woman‐‐
we've got a clip.

681
00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:39,391
[woman laughs]

682
00:22:39,391 --> 00:22:41,026
TRACY: I'm the oldest person
in this house.

683
00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:42,528
I'm not a child.
‐ [squeals]

684
00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:46,532
‐ I know that I'm ready to be
very serious with someone.

685
00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:48,667
[cries]

686
00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:51,637
‐ Oh, Tracy‐‐
the stylist with no style.

687
00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:59,245
‐ Wrapping up our
trimester awards here

688
00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:01,046
for our first trimester,
Best Date‐‐

689
00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:03,649
we're giving to the
Strongest Woman Competition‐‐

690
00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:05,517
if you guys remember,
they had to compete, you know,

691
00:23:05,517 --> 00:23:08,120
for the strongest woman
mentally, emotionally,
physically.

692
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,522
I wanna ask you guys, though.
What makes a good group date?

693
00:23:10,522 --> 00:23:12,324
Because these are the
beginning group dates,

694
00:23:12,324 --> 00:23:13,525
and I feel like the group dates

695
00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,895
are impossible to really
connect with the lead on.

696
00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:17,129
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ So hard.

697
00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:20,132
I remember my very favorite
group date

698
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:21,267
early on in the season.

699
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:22,568
There were some great ones
in the end.

700
00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:24,403
But when there's
a bunch of women there,

701
00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,839
it was the soccer date
because what happened was,

702
00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,908
there was a game
that was played,
so everybody was super tired.

703
00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:31,176
They had a big day of exercise,

704
00:23:31,176 --> 00:23:32,544
so in the cocktail party
that night,

705
00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:35,414
everybody was relaxed because
they felt like their energy

706
00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:38,784
had been, you know,
blown out during the day.

707
00:23:38,784 --> 00:23:40,686
And so, for me,
that helped me as the Bachelor,

708
00:23:40,686 --> 00:23:42,855
just to kind of...
‐ Have them be exhausted?

709
00:23:42,855 --> 00:23:45,257
‐ Yeah.
‐ Have them be too tired
to do anything...

710
00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:46,725
‐ To talk to him...[laughs]
‐ But, like, be normal.

711
00:23:46,725 --> 00:23:48,327
‐ To fight, yeah.
‐ Yeah.

712
00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:51,230
‐ So, you wanna tire them out
on a group date,
is what you're saying.

713
00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:53,432
‐ Which they would've done
on the Strongest Woman.
‐ 100%.

714
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:56,902
‐ Rachel, is the
cocktail party more important
on the group date,

715
00:23:56,902 --> 00:23:58,237
because on that
Strongest Woman one,

716
00:23:58,237 --> 00:23:59,672
we saw Colton and Cassie
kinda, like,

717
00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:01,573
make out against that glass
window for the first time.

718
00:24:01,573 --> 00:24:02,775
‐ Yeah.

719
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:04,543
Yeah, I would definitely
say the cocktail party

720
00:24:04,543 --> 00:24:07,046
is when you get to have
more of that one‐on‐one time.

721
00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:08,647
Like, the group date
is just more about, like,

722
00:24:08,647 --> 00:24:10,950
fun and letting loose,
and allows you, as the lead,

723
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:13,652
to see the personality
of the other contestants.

724
00:24:13,652 --> 00:24:15,721
Like, I really,
really enjoyed that.

725
00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:18,724
I had a really‐‐a lot
of good group dates in LA.

726
00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:20,859
I mean,
Mila and Ashton came in,

727
00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:23,062
but my favorite, I have to say,
was Kareem Abdul‐Jabbar

728
00:24:23,062 --> 00:24:26,732
because I'm a huge sports fan,
and he was so shady, like,

729
00:24:26,732 --> 00:24:29,101
talking about, like, the guys
and them playing basketball,

730
00:24:29,101 --> 00:24:31,170
so I was like,
"I don't even have to be shady.

731
00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:32,972
I can just sit back
and listen to Kareem."

732
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:34,506
‐ [laughs]
‐ That's really cool.

733
00:24:34,506 --> 00:24:37,509
‐ We are also giving
a Worst Date award,

734
00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:38,777
and I think we can all predict

735
00:24:38,777 --> 00:24:41,714
who's gonna get this
from the first trimester‐‐

736
00:24:41,714 --> 00:24:43,782
Hannah B.'s non‐toast toast.

737
00:24:43,782 --> 00:24:45,384
Take a look.
‐ [laughs]

738
00:24:45,384 --> 00:24:49,154
‐ [laughs]
I can't do this.

739
00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:51,957
Let's make a toast to‐‐
first, it's my birthday, so...

740
00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:54,960
‐ Happy birthday.
‐ To this amazing day.

741
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,330
And, um...

742
00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:00,332
yeah...
[laughs]

743
00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:01,867
‐ Cheers.
‐ Roll Tide.

744
00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:03,435
‐ [laughs]
When in doubt.

745
00:25:03,435 --> 00:25:05,637
‐ I never knew she said,
"Roll Tide."

746
00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,172
‐ Roll Tide.
‐ Roll Tide.

747
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,775
‐ Also, coming on the heels...
‐ "Cheers to my birthday."

748
00:25:09,775 --> 00:25:11,910
‐ Alabama, I believe,
had just lost too,

749
00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:13,445
so it's like,
is that a win for them?

750
00:25:13,445 --> 00:25:15,514
I mean, I don't know.
This was a couple weeks after.

751
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,850
Very tough‐‐
tough time for the Roll Tide.

752
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:19,251
‐ I mean, she said,

753
00:25:19,251 --> 00:25:20,652
"[southern accent]
You took my words."
And I was like,

754
00:25:20,652 --> 00:25:23,055
what words did he take?
[laughs]

755
00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:24,590
I've never seen someone

756
00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:27,659
struggle so much
to make a toast.

757
00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:29,461
Did you guys come‐‐'cause
people have actually told me

758
00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:31,430
that they have come onto the
show prepared with toasts

759
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:33,098
because they knew
they'd have to do it a bunch.
‐ No.

760
00:25:33,098 --> 00:25:34,967
‐ No, you're not‐‐
you guys aren't those types.
‐ You didn't do that, did you?

761
00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:36,502
‐ No, but I mean,
it's weird with her

762
00:25:36,502 --> 00:25:38,037
because she wasn't
even nervous.

763
00:25:38,037 --> 00:25:40,606
Like, this has been
after some time with Colton.

764
00:25:40,606 --> 00:25:41,840
They were just talking
at this point,

765
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,308
Like, nervous and
probably didn't plan this.

766
00:25:43,308 --> 00:25:44,910
She just literally couldn't
find the words to say‐‐

767
00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:46,745
‐ Okay, in her defense...
‐ Yeah.

768
00:25:46,745 --> 00:25:49,048
‐ I'm not a person
who gets that nervous either,

769
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:51,984
but I will say,
on my first one‐on‐one,

770
00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,852
I was very, very nervous.

771
00:25:53,852 --> 00:25:55,521
‐ The whole time?
‐ And I was‐‐yes.

772
00:25:55,521 --> 00:25:58,457
I was because I kept thinking,
this is my one chance.

773
00:25:58,457 --> 00:26:00,859
And it has to get‐‐I have
to say all the right things,

774
00:26:00,859 --> 00:26:03,529
and do the right things,
and he's analyzing
how I'm acting.

775
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:05,931
I really felt like I was not
myself on my first one‐on‐one‐‐

776
00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:07,332
I mean, except when
I was dancing in the street,

777
00:26:07,332 --> 00:26:08,801
but other than that...
[laughter]

778
00:26:08,801 --> 00:26:11,103
‐ I was on your first
one‐on‐one with you. [laughs]
‐ You were there.

779
00:26:11,103 --> 00:26:14,039
But when it came to talk‐‐
but I felt Hannah B.
in this moment

780
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,308
because it is‐‐
you're on the spot.

781
00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:18,877
‐ How hard is it to have
the first one‐on‐one,

782
00:26:18,877 --> 00:26:20,112
'cause we're in
the first trimester.

783
00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:21,847
That's what Hannah has‐‐
the first one‐on‐one,

784
00:26:21,847 --> 00:26:23,649
and she had
to get a swimsuit on.

785
00:26:23,649 --> 00:26:26,185
It's in a hot tub.
That was rough to me
a little bit.

786
00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:27,453
‐ It's a lot of pressure.

787
00:26:27,453 --> 00:26:29,221
And it's the date
you're gonna remember, right?

788
00:26:29,221 --> 00:26:30,656
I remember my first one‐on‐one,

789
00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:32,324
and I couldn't name off
the other one‐on‐ones,

790
00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:34,793
but my very first one, I could
still talk about to this day‐‐

791
00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:37,129
Kevin Hart and the hot tub.
‐ Oh, yeah.

792
00:26:37,129 --> 00:26:38,630
Another big hot tub moment.
‐ [laughs]

793
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:40,065
‐ The hot tub thing
right up front,

794
00:26:40,065 --> 00:26:42,000
when they just put it
in a random location,

795
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,303
a lot of logistical questions,
'cause wasn't that

796
00:26:44,303 --> 00:26:46,371
also in, like, a weird place?

797
00:26:46,371 --> 00:26:48,173
Not, like,
a normal hot tub environment?

798
00:26:48,173 --> 00:26:50,275
‐ It was in hot tub store.
‐ Right, hot tub store.

799
00:26:50,275 --> 00:26:51,443
That makes
a little bit more sense.

800
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:53,512
‐ Oh, that was so gross...
[laughs]

801
00:26:53,512 --> 00:26:55,848
I just kept thinking about
the water being stagnant
in that store.

802
00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:57,015
‐ Yeah.

803
00:26:57,015 --> 00:26:58,417
‐ But yeah, the hot tubs
are in the middle of nowhere.

804
00:26:58,417 --> 00:27:00,586
I've heard that they're
wood burning hot tubs

805
00:27:00,586 --> 00:27:02,387
because how would you
get electricity?

806
00:27:02,387 --> 00:27:03,722
‐ They were‐‐no.
Come on.

807
00:27:03,722 --> 00:27:05,858
Who's telling you that?
‐ [laughs]

808
00:27:05,858 --> 00:27:07,493
‐ I had a hot tub
in the middle of nowhere

809
00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:10,329
with Lauren Bushnell,
and it was cold.

810
00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:11,997
‐ Mmm.
‐ Because there was
no electricity to it.

811
00:27:11,997 --> 00:27:13,465
So, it was just,
like, cold water

812
00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:14,933
that you're sitting
and acting like it's hot.

813
00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:16,101
‐ That did not happen.

814
00:27:16,101 --> 00:27:17,236
Bryan and I had
a hot tub scene,

815
00:27:17,236 --> 00:27:19,271
but it didn't make the cut.
‐ Oh.

816
00:27:19,271 --> 00:27:20,706
‐ I don't think
it was made for TV.

817
00:27:20,706 --> 00:27:22,040
‐ [laughs]
‐ Oh!

818
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,042
‐ And it was in the middle
of nowhere in Spain.

819
00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:26,445
And it was very hot.
I was in several hot tubs.

820
00:27:26,445 --> 00:27:28,547
‐ Very hot for‐‐sounds like
other reasons though, yeah.

821
00:27:28,547 --> 00:27:30,782
[laughs] We were both there
with that lame joke.

822
00:27:30,782 --> 00:27:32,484
[laughter]

823
00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,253
We are giving an MVP award

824
00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:37,222
for the first trimester
to, guys, Demi.

825
00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:38,590
JULIET: Queen Demi.
LAUREN: Who else would get it?

826
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,792
Juliet, can you just tell me
why you love Demi?

827
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:42,494
‐ She was the whole
first trimester.

828
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,329
Without her, we wouldn't have
had the good sound bites.

829
00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,265
We wouldn't had enough
of anything.

830
00:27:46,265 --> 00:27:48,200
She made it happen
for us as viewers,

831
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,435
and I'm thankful.
She's my MVP.

832
00:27:50,435 --> 00:27:51,937
‐ We're thankful for Demi.
‐ Yeah.

833
00:27:51,937 --> 00:27:53,438
‐ Yes.
‐ I love Demi.

834
00:27:53,438 --> 00:27:55,040
‐ We've been talking about‐‐
you guys just mentioned

835
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,341
Kareem Abdul‐Jabbar,
Kevin Hart.

836
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,944
And this kinda segue ways
perfectly into our next game.

837
00:27:58,944 --> 00:28:01,880
The celebrity
and alumni cameos

838
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,782
happened on "The Bachelor" and
"Bachelorette," and we love it.

839
00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:08,086
We wanna play
Fan, Fame, or Fortune?

840
00:28:08,086 --> 00:28:10,656
And we're going
to analyze why

841
00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:13,458
these people have come on "The
Bachelor" and "Bachelorette."

842
00:28:13,458 --> 00:28:15,594
Is it because
they love the show

843
00:28:15,594 --> 00:28:16,929
and they thought it would be,
you know,

844
00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:19,264
just fun and funny,
which is‐‐they're a fan.

845
00:28:19,264 --> 00:28:21,967
Are they trying to extend
their 15 minutes of fame?

846
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:23,168
Fame.

847
00:28:23,168 --> 00:28:25,037
Or did they get paid
a good amount,

848
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,505
and it's Fortune?

849
00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:29,474
So, first off,
we had a married couple.

850
00:28:29,474 --> 00:28:32,044
Celebs Nick Offerman
and Megan Mullally

851
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:33,645
went on Colton's season.

852
00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:35,514
Why did they go?
Fan, Fame, or Fortune?

853
00:28:35,514 --> 00:28:36,848
‐ Gotta be 'cause they're fans,

854
00:28:36,848 --> 00:28:38,016
They thought
it'd be really funny.

855
00:28:38,016 --> 00:28:39,518
‐ Do you think?
‐ I could just imagine them,

856
00:28:39,518 --> 00:28:41,720
like, sitting at home
watching the show together,

857
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,722
probably just thinking
it'd be great to be on it,

858
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,290
and, like, making
a phone call or something.

859
00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:46,692
‐ Aren't you always shocked
when you find out...

860
00:28:46,692 --> 00:28:48,727
‐ Yes.
‐ This person watches the show?

861
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:52,197
‐ 100‐‐Clint Eastwood even had
talked about the show, yes.
‐ What?

862
00:28:52,197 --> 00:28:54,666
‐ Well, then, who else‐‐
you said‐‐he said Barack.

863
00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:56,301
‐ Barack Obama?
‐ That's what Ben said.

864
00:28:56,301 --> 00:28:58,904
‐ During my season, he‐‐
Barack Obama, during a speech,

865
00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:00,205
there was roses on the table.

866
00:29:00,205 --> 00:29:02,441
He goes, "I'm not here to pass
out the roses like Ben did."

867
00:29:02,441 --> 00:29:04,409
‐ What?
‐ I would've died.

868
00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:05,911
‐ Can we find that later?
‐ [laughs]

869
00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:08,447
‐ I hope so. You can try‐‐
‐ That's incredible.

870
00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:10,382
Good to know they get
ABC in the White House, huh?

871
00:29:10,382 --> 00:29:11,850
[laughter]
Wow.

872
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:13,452
‐ All right, next up,

873
00:29:13,452 --> 00:29:17,055
Billy Eichner went on the
summer camp date with Colton.

874
00:29:17,055 --> 00:29:19,124
To me, I'm also saying
Fortune on that one.

875
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,126
Billy was pretty snippy
on that date.

876
00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:22,394
I didn't think
he was loving being there,

877
00:29:22,394 --> 00:29:23,662
but I could be wrong again.

878
00:29:23,662 --> 00:29:24,896
‐ Who knows?
There's, like, a‐‐

879
00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:26,598
there's, like,
a slight conspiracy theory
with that one.

880
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:28,400
Maybe there's, like, some
kind of corporate synergies

881
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,501
since it's an ABC show,

882
00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:30,802
and he's in "The Lion King"
this summer,

883
00:29:30,802 --> 00:29:33,038
which is a Disney movie.
ALL: Oh.

884
00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:34,840
‐ That's just a conspiracy
theory, perhaps,

885
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,043
but again, I recently
read his Wikipedia page,

886
00:29:38,043 --> 00:29:40,245
and I feel like he does
a lot of self‐curation.

887
00:29:40,245 --> 00:29:42,180
And perhaps part of that is
showing up on "The Bachelor."

888
00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:43,348
‐ Really?
‐ Yes.

889
00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:45,984
‐ I didn't really know
who he was, and so...

890
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:47,519
‐ "Billy on the Street."
‐ So, I didn't‐‐

891
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:49,888
he said a lot of bold things
that‐‐that, I did‐‐

892
00:29:49,888 --> 00:29:51,723
I immediately
liked him afterwards.

893
00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:53,525
Like, yeah,
he's kinda out there.
‐ He's a funny guy.

894
00:29:53,525 --> 00:29:54,660
‐ Yeah.

895
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:57,195
LAUREN: Terry Crews.
Fan, Fame, or Fortune?

896
00:29:57,195 --> 00:29:59,064
He and his wife went on
the Strongest Woman date.

897
00:29:59,064 --> 00:30:00,732
‐ Fortune.
‐ You think so?

898
00:30:00,732 --> 00:30:02,567
‐ Yeah, I don't think
they're fans of the show.

899
00:30:02,567 --> 00:30:04,970
‐ It was really weird.
Onyeka was so excited
to see them.

900
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:06,838
She was, like‐‐
she said that he was, like‐‐

901
00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:08,907
she loved "White Chicks,"
and he's in that.

902
00:30:08,907 --> 00:30:11,710
‐ It's funny to me sometimes
when the contestants

903
00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:13,111
are heard saying, like,

904
00:30:13,111 --> 00:30:15,380
"I couldn't believe I walked in
and saw Richard Marx."

905
00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:17,916
And I'm like,
"Dude, there's no way
you knew who Richard Marx was."

906
00:30:17,916 --> 00:30:19,451
‐ No way.
‐ Like, you guys‐‐

907
00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:21,386
you gotta retake
those bites, right?

908
00:30:21,386 --> 00:30:23,455
I mean, they have to
have you say that to cameras

909
00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:24,790
so they get
a quick bite of that.

910
00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:27,392
‐ They would say, "How excited
were you to see Richard Marx?"

911
00:30:27,392 --> 00:30:29,227
‐ Okay, I see.
‐ I was so excited...

912
00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:30,796
[laughter]
To see Richard Marx.

913
00:30:30,796 --> 00:30:32,497
‐ That's how it goes.

914
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:34,032
‐ The alumni,
I feel like, you know,

915
00:30:34,032 --> 00:30:35,934
you guys have done this,
made appearances on the show.

916
00:30:35,934 --> 00:30:37,502
We had, in that live premiere,

917
00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:40,105
I mean, we're naming Jared
and Ashley here specifically,

918
00:30:40,105 --> 00:30:42,074
but you were there with them.
‐ Yeah.

919
00:30:42,074 --> 00:30:45,110
‐ Why do alumni
go on the seasons?

920
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:47,045
‐ Well, I mean, I think it's‐‐
‐ Do you guys get paid?

921
00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:48,180
‐ No, no.
‐ [softly] You don't?

922
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:49,581
‐ No, I do not.
‐ Okay.

923
00:30:49,581 --> 00:30:51,183
‐ But I think a lot of it...
‐ Yes.

924
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,785
[laughter]
‐ What the hell?

925
00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:55,454
Ben, you gotta get a paycheck.

926
00:30:55,454 --> 00:30:57,989
‐ Ring, ring, Mr. Agent.

927
00:30:57,989 --> 00:31:00,792
No, the‐‐I do it because‐‐

928
00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:02,794
Rach and I were talking
a little bit ago.

929
00:31:02,794 --> 00:31:04,229
There's still a lot of respect
for the show.

930
00:31:04,229 --> 00:31:06,465
It's done a lot of things
for our lives, you know?

931
00:31:06,465 --> 00:31:08,800
It's nice to go back and stay
connected to the franchise.

932
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,103
And so, a lot of it
is when I get asked,

933
00:31:11,103 --> 00:31:13,572
and it's the right opportunity,
the right place,

934
00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:14,706
then I'll do it.

935
00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:16,842
It just happened to be‐‐
I was already in Park City

936
00:31:16,842 --> 00:31:19,411
filming a show at the time,
and so it just worked out great

937
00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:20,846
that they were there as well.

938
00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:22,180
But I like to stay connected.

939
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,116
The show has a special place
in my heart.

940
00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:25,484
‐ I pick and choose.

941
00:31:25,484 --> 00:31:27,586
I was very excited to be
on Becca's season.

942
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:29,888
Like, I hated
what happened to her.

943
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:31,656
I was rooting for her.

944
00:31:31,656 --> 00:31:33,358
And so, when I was asked
to be on her season,

945
00:31:33,358 --> 00:31:35,594
I was super excited
because I really wanted

946
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:37,729
to help her and I feel like
she has a really genuine heart,

947
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:38,930
and I still think that.
‐ Yeah.

948
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:42,868
‐ So, I really wanted to be
a part of her journey.

949
00:31:42,868 --> 00:31:44,836
‐ The journey, well...
‐ I can't help but say it.

950
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:47,105
‐ One thing
I've loved about the journey

951
00:31:47,105 --> 00:31:49,241
has been all of Colton's

952
00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:52,277
Egregious Acts
of Shirtlessness, yes.

953
00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:53,645
You came up with, Juliet,

954
00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:55,013
nine minutes and 15 seconds
of shirtlessness.

955
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:56,181
‐ Yes.
‐ What?

956
00:31:56,181 --> 00:31:58,517
‐ Across nine episodes.
‐ Yes...[laughs]

957
00:31:58,517 --> 00:32:00,485
‐ I got 20.
‐ And I believe there was

958
00:32:00,485 --> 00:32:02,387
at least one or two where
he's not shirtless at all,

959
00:32:02,387 --> 00:32:04,523
so that means in some of them,
he's super shirtless.

960
00:32:04,523 --> 00:32:05,657
And I think, like,

961
00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,326
at the Strongest Woman
competition date,

962
00:32:08,326 --> 00:32:10,328
he's, like, not wearing a shirt
for all of the working out,

963
00:32:10,328 --> 00:32:11,530
like,
when they're getting ready,

964
00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:13,331
but also just
a lot of shower scenes...

965
00:32:13,331 --> 00:32:15,734
‐ Yeah.
‐ Maybe the same shower scene
over and over.

966
00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:18,837
But a lot of Colton
in the shower.

967
00:32:18,837 --> 00:32:20,105
‐ A lot of Colton
in the shower‐‐

968
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,374
I've been saying all season
that I'm totally okay with it

969
00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:24,176
because we got zero from Arie.

970
00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:26,311
I think they were making up
for lost time.

971
00:32:26,311 --> 00:32:28,713
And I didn't need
to see Arie shirtless,

972
00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:30,515
but as a fan,
I like some shirtlessness,

973
00:32:30,515 --> 00:32:32,083
so I felt Colton
had to double up.

974
00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:33,318
‐ But I feel like‐‐
like you said,

975
00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:35,053
you got 20 seconds.
‐ Yeah, very little.

976
00:32:35,053 --> 00:32:37,255
‐ I don't remember
Nick having a whole lot.

977
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:39,257
‐ Oh, Nick had a lot.
‐ I think he was shirtless
right out of the gate.

978
00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:41,326
‐ See? I was gonna say that
they were playing into

979
00:32:41,326 --> 00:32:45,197
the whole sexuality aspect
when it comes to Colton, but...

980
00:32:45,197 --> 00:32:47,399
‐ I think with Nick, they were
playing him to the glow‐up.

981
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:49,434
Like, because Nick...
‐ Yes, definitely.

982
00:32:49,434 --> 00:32:50,836
‐ He'd worked out.
‐ He's from Waukesha,

983
00:32:50,836 --> 00:32:52,304
Nick from LA.
There's a huge difference.

984
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,005
‐ Huge difference, yes.
‐ Yeah.

985
00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:57,275
I have a question about the
shirtlessness shower scenes
though because‐‐

986
00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:59,511
did anyone else feel like we
were getting the same scene

987
00:32:59,511 --> 00:33:01,213
over and over again,
they were just repurposing it?

988
00:33:01,213 --> 00:33:02,380
‐ Yeah.
‐ Yeah, so, do they‐‐

989
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:04,316
like, how many times did they
film you taking a shower?

990
00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,117
‐ Quite a bit, yeah.
‐ Oh, really? [laughs]

991
00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:07,686
‐ Oh, yeah.
There's this weird‐‐

992
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:09,187
‐ Why isn't there soap?

993
00:33:09,187 --> 00:33:10,388
‐ Well...
‐ [laughs]

994
00:33:10,388 --> 00:33:11,590
‐ Good point.

995
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,425
The weird part is‐‐
and this is how it works‐‐

996
00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,460
is you're in your hotel room,
wherever you're at,

997
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:16,795
and there's a camera,
and this guy,

998
00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:18,463
and you have to be like,
"I'm sorry that you
have to do this."

999
00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:20,832
And you get in the shower,
and he stands there,

1000
00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:22,901
and, like,
gets the angles that you need

1001
00:33:22,901 --> 00:33:25,036
while you shower,
and you're showering sometimes

1002
00:33:25,036 --> 00:33:27,439
literally to go get dressed
and go to a cocktail party.

1003
00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:29,107
Like, these are legit showers,

1004
00:33:29,107 --> 00:33:31,409
and you have somebody
standing outside doing it.

1005
00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:32,844
‐ Wait, are you totally naked?

1006
00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:35,113
‐ Uh, not every time.
‐ [laughs]

1007
00:33:35,113 --> 00:33:36,615
‐ Not every time, whoa.

1008
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:38,250
I just felt like
they were trying

1009
00:33:38,250 --> 00:33:40,919
to make us feel like
Colton's sexy.

1010
00:33:40,919 --> 00:33:42,053
I feel like
they were trying to‐‐

1011
00:33:42,053 --> 00:33:43,922
that's why we kept
seeing it so much with him.

1012
00:33:43,922 --> 00:33:45,090
Yes, he's sexy.

1013
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:46,925
Yes, he's a virgin,
and he can still be sexy.

1014
00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:48,493
That's the message
that I was getting

1015
00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:50,295
every single time
we saw him in the shower.

1016
00:33:50,295 --> 00:33:52,297
‐ I thought a lot of it was
'cause he just loves
to work out.

1017
00:33:52,297 --> 00:33:53,999
Like, we do
see him doing, like‐‐

1018
00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:55,166
‐ More than showering.
‐ Like he would‐‐yeah.

1019
00:33:55,166 --> 00:33:57,102
He would, like,
wake up and go for a run.

1020
00:33:57,102 --> 00:33:59,304
I just feel like
he just enjoyed

1021
00:33:59,304 --> 00:34:01,506
being without his shirt
for, like, activities.

1022
00:34:01,506 --> 00:34:04,075
‐ I have got some
behind‐the‐scenes news.

1023
00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:05,577
‐ Oh, wow, oh, wow.
‐ Wow.

1024
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:07,846
‐ From the man himself,
Colton Underwood.

1025
00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,248
He would‐‐
and you'll respect this‐‐

1026
00:34:10,248 --> 00:34:12,984
he would wake up
an hour before every date

1027
00:34:12,984 --> 00:34:14,986
just to work out...
‐ Mm.

1028
00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:16,454
‐ And the show allowed him.

1029
00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:18,123
They would've allowed me.
I never did it.

1030
00:34:18,123 --> 00:34:20,191
Like, you had to wake up
sometimes at 7:00 a. m.

1031
00:34:20,191 --> 00:34:22,060
so at 6:00, he would
make himself, every day,

1032
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:24,829
wake up just so he could
work out for the date ahead,

1033
00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:26,031
or he said he would
get in his own head.

1034
00:34:26,031 --> 00:34:27,499
So, yeah,
he was working out a lot.

1035
00:34:27,499 --> 00:34:29,367
‐ Athletes are, like,
a slightly different breed.

1036
00:34:29,367 --> 00:34:31,269
Like, they just, like, you‐‐
it's part of your‐‐

1037
00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:33,138
the rhythm of your life,
is that you need to work out,

1038
00:34:33,138 --> 00:34:35,840
and, like, have your cardio,
lift weights, whatever.

1039
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,009
And I do think that
explains it to certain extent.

1040
00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:39,411
‐ Well, I mean,
we've got a look at it,

1041
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:41,746
so let's just look
at Colton shirtless.

1042
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:43,415
Wow.
RACHEL: All nine minutes?

1043
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:44,716
LAUREN: We don't have
all nine minutes.

1044
00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,318
JULIET: Just a few seconds.
See? He's in the gym.

1045
00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:47,986
LAUREN: Ben, did you work out
before your "Bachelor"?

1046
00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:49,521
BEN: Oh, heck yeah, I did.

1047
00:34:49,521 --> 00:34:51,389
I still didn't look like this,
but I worked out so hard‐‐
so many push‐ups.

1048
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:54,359
‐ I definitely see
the change in his body
throughout the season.

1049
00:34:54,359 --> 00:34:56,761
‐ Yeah.
‐ Like, you can tell
he was working out every day.

1050
00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:58,630
‐ That was
a little bit much though.
Did you see that last scene?

1051
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:59,764
He walks away.

1052
00:34:59,764 --> 00:35:01,266
He looks at himself in the
mirror like, "I look good"

1053
00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:02,267
and turned around.

1054
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:03,568
JULIET: "Well, baby,"
like, what he saw.

1055
00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:04,970
RACHEL: Hell yeah.
Ben you can't conv‐‐

1056
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:06,705
I mean, I definitely feel
like he requested

1057
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:08,440
some of these shirtless scenes.

1058
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,175
‐ "I'm looking good today.
Make sure you get this."

1059
00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:11,376
‐ Yeah.
‐ [laughing]

1060
00:35:11,376 --> 00:35:13,311
‐ All right, well while we all,
you know, fan ourselves

1061
00:35:13,311 --> 00:35:16,815
after being completely
entranced by Colton shirtless,

1062
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:19,384
we're gonna prepare ourselves
for the second trimester.

1063
00:35:23,388 --> 00:35:25,323
ALL: Singapore!

1064
00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:26,925
BOTH: Three, two, one!

1065
00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:29,928
‐ [screams]

1066
00:35:29,928 --> 00:35:32,564
<i>[dramatic music]</i>

1067
00:35:32,564 --> 00:35:35,033
TAYSHIA: Colton and I have
really good chemistry.

1068
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,636
‐ Oh, maybe getting
her whole body whiplashed.

1069
00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:39,537
It is the second trimester

1070
00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:41,539
of Colton Underwood season
of "The Bachelor."

1071
00:35:41,539 --> 00:35:43,775
The next three episodes
we go to Asia:

1072
00:35:43,775 --> 00:35:45,777
Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam.

1073
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:47,212
We're gonna talk
through all the big moments.

1074
00:35:47,212 --> 00:35:48,880
I want to start off there
with Juliet,

1075
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,382
something that I know
concerns you, which is

1076
00:35:50,382 --> 00:35:51,983
Tayshia's bungee jumping form.

1077
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:53,518
She could have
really hurt herself.

1078
00:35:53,518 --> 00:35:56,621
‐ She does sort of like a jump
into a pool that's not there

1079
00:35:56,621 --> 00:35:58,990
when she's jumping
of a really high platform.

1080
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:01,226
I was really worried for her
while I was watching that,

1081
00:36:01,226 --> 00:36:03,728
and then when she finally falls
over then jumps back up

1082
00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:05,463
that must have been so painful.
RACHEL: Oh, my gosh.

1083
00:36:05,463 --> 00:36:07,332
When I saw it, I thought,
"She wanted to die.

1084
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:08,833
She wanted to die today."

1085
00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:10,769
‐ Tayshia and Colton's
connection surprised me.

1086
00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:13,338
It came out of nowhere for me,
and they felt so close.

1087
00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:16,708
And I wanted to ask you guys,
when is the best time to have

1088
00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:18,009
a one‐on‐one in this season,

1089
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:19,277
your first one‐on‐one
of course,

1090
00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:21,046
because Hannah B. got
that very first one.

1091
00:36:21,046 --> 00:36:22,180
We saw how awkward it was.

1092
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,782
Tayshia and Colton really
bonded on their one‐on‐one.

1093
00:36:23,782 --> 00:36:26,117
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ I'm gonna say week five.

1094
00:36:26,117 --> 00:36:29,020
‐ Specific, I like it.
‐ Yeah, week five, it's...

1095
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:30,722
There's anticipation.
RACHEL: Yeah.

1096
00:36:30,722 --> 00:36:32,590
There's this, like,
mystery there.

1097
00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:34,426
You've had some experience
with other women,

1098
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:37,395
and the week five one‐on‐one
feels new,

1099
00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:39,064
you know, because it's
your first time together

1100
00:36:39,064 --> 00:36:41,733
but the best part‐‐and then
I'll let you add in here‐‐

1101
00:36:41,733 --> 00:36:43,101
but the best part is you
already know them

1102
00:36:43,101 --> 00:36:44,169
a little bit
from the group dates.

1103
00:36:44,169 --> 00:36:45,603
‐ That's so true.
‐ So there's a comfort to it.

1104
00:36:45,603 --> 00:36:47,205
‐ Yeah, no, 100% I agree.

1105
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,707
I was gonna say week five
as well.

1106
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:51,276
You always see the person
as the first date that‐‐

1107
00:36:51,276 --> 00:36:53,178
or the first week date
struggle

1108
00:36:53,178 --> 00:36:54,579
because it's such a long time,

1109
00:36:54,579 --> 00:36:57,048
so if you strategically are
in the middle

1110
00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:58,717
then you might have
another date

1111
00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:00,518
when you have
a second one‐on‐one

1112
00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:02,721
during like week seven
and then their hometowns.

1113
00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:04,456
It's so much better to be
in the middle.

1114
00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:06,157
‐ Does it help to have
a one‐on‐one

1115
00:37:06,157 --> 00:37:08,259
where you could
possibly die

1116
00:37:08,259 --> 00:37:11,930
because you bond through
that horrifying experience,

1117
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:13,631
like bungee jumping?
‐ There's‐‐

1118
00:37:13,631 --> 00:37:15,233
‐ I‐‐go ahead.
LAUREN: Rachel's nodding.

1119
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:16,835
‐ There's definitely
an adrenaline factor, right?

1120
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:19,370
Like, you're experiencing
like this huge rush together,

1121
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:21,106
like excited together.

1122
00:37:21,106 --> 00:37:22,974
‐ I would have hated
bungee jumping.

1123
00:37:22,974 --> 00:37:26,177
You would have seen me and like
trying to be poised all season.

1124
00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:28,446
You would have seen me
break down.

1125
00:37:28,446 --> 00:37:30,381
The idea that I'm jumping off
of something

1126
00:37:30,381 --> 00:37:33,184
with cameras watching and a
girl that I'm trying to impress

1127
00:37:33,184 --> 00:37:35,220
I would‐‐no, I can't do it.
‐ But there is something‐‐

1128
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:37,856
Bryan and I repelled 187 feet

1129
00:37:37,856 --> 00:37:40,492
from the Olympic ski jump
in Norway.

1130
00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:41,926
‐ That's cool.
‐ And there was something

1131
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:44,262
about it when once we came‐‐we
did it together.

1132
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:45,964
It was a first, and you land,

1133
00:37:45,964 --> 00:37:47,932
and you're just like,
"Wow, we did this thing

1134
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,033
together," so‐‐
‐ "We survived together."

1135
00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,301
‐ Yeah, and we survived
together.

1136
00:37:50,301 --> 00:37:52,036
We were either gonna die
or live together,

1137
00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:53,438
and there was something
about it

1138
00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:54,506
that I think was
a little romantic.

1139
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,774
‐ You're engaged to
that guy now. There you go.

1140
00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,308
For a first date, just nearly
die with someone.

1141
00:37:57,308 --> 00:37:59,644
That's a good way to go.
Back to our highlight reel.

1142
00:37:59,644 --> 00:38:01,980
TAYSHIA: And I think there is
passion there.

1143
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:05,316
This past year and a half has
been kind of hard for me.

1144
00:38:05,316 --> 00:38:10,054
And it's actually
because I was married

1145
00:38:10,054 --> 00:38:11,956
and I got a divorce.

1146
00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:13,591
DEMI: This week actually

1147
00:38:13,591 --> 00:38:17,195
my mom was released
from federal prison.

1148
00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:20,565
COLTON: Demi, will you accept
this rose?

1149
00:38:20,565 --> 00:38:21,800
DEMI: Of course.

1150
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,401
‐ How are you?
‐ What the heck?

1151
00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:25,570
This is amazing.
This is amazing.

1152
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:26,838
This is amazing.

1153
00:38:26,838 --> 00:38:28,439
<i>[dynamic music]</i>

1154
00:38:28,439 --> 00:38:29,774
‐ [exhales slowly]

1155
00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:32,944
‐ Oh. [laughs]

1156
00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:34,445
‐ Dang.

1157
00:38:34,445 --> 00:38:37,582
‐ Wow, that's beautiful.
‐ It's fun. I love it.

1158
00:38:37,582 --> 00:38:38,850
‐ You look amazing.

1159
00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:41,386
CASSIE: It's not easy
when I see

1160
00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:44,489
someone that I'm dating now
doing that to someone else.

1161
00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:47,091
It's like fine,

1162
00:38:47,091 --> 00:38:49,994
but I lo‐‐I am so happy
for Caelynn,

1163
00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:53,097
like I‐‐[crying]

1164
00:38:53,097 --> 00:38:56,467
‐ Um, I don't want to talk
about this long, but Courtney,

1165
00:38:56,467 --> 00:38:59,838
she is like the cancer
of the house.

1166
00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:03,842
‐ If anyone isn't here for the
right reasons, it is Demi.

1167
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:05,777
‐ Ooh, okay.

1168
00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:08,213
"The cancer of the house."

1169
00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:09,848
I know Courtney had a big issue
with her saying that.

1170
00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:11,149
It didn't bother me that much.

1171
00:39:11,149 --> 00:39:12,750
Juliet, where'd you land on it?
‐ It didn't bother me either.

1172
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:14,352
It's like a saying.
I mean, it's fine.

1173
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,120
‐ Yeah, she didn't literally
mean cancer.

1174
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,622
‐ It's more annoying
that she said that‐‐

1175
00:39:17,622 --> 00:39:19,557
Courtney herself‐‐
dropped "the right reasons."

1176
00:39:19,557 --> 00:39:21,125
That might have been the first
one of the season I think.

1177
00:39:21,125 --> 00:39:22,193
LAUREN: Mm‐hmm.
RACHEL: Yeah.

1178
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,062
‐ It's like, "Come on,
find a new phrase."

1179
00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:26,497
We're past the right reasons in
the history of "The Bachelor."

1180
00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:29,000
‐ Well, I felt
when we were watching Colton

1181
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,302
talk to Courtney,
you could tell.

1182
00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:33,838
Like, this one's going home.
This isn't really working here.

1183
00:39:33,838 --> 00:39:36,507
As the lead, is there anything
that you do

1184
00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:38,109
like to signal to producers

1185
00:39:38,109 --> 00:39:39,577
like, "I know I have to have
this conversation,

1186
00:39:39,577 --> 00:39:41,179
but can you get me out of here
in a minute?"

1187
00:39:41,179 --> 00:39:42,981
RACHEL: Mm‐hmm.
‐ Yeah, I think there was.

1188
00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:44,782
And they pretty much
at this point‐‐

1189
00:39:44,782 --> 00:39:46,351
they become your best friends,
right?

1190
00:39:46,351 --> 00:39:47,585
They're family to you.
RACHEL: Yeah, they are.

1191
00:39:47,585 --> 00:39:49,520
‐ And so you‐‐they know
where you're at all the time.

1192
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,788
RACHEL: You didn't have
an actual signal?

1193
00:39:50,788 --> 00:39:52,056
‐ Huh? No.
‐ Oh, I did.

1194
00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:53,591
LAUREN: What was it?
‐ It was this.

1195
00:39:53,591 --> 00:39:54,659
LAUREN: Oh.

1196
00:39:54,659 --> 00:39:56,060
‐ I don't think they would have
listened to me.

1197
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:57,729
‐ No, no, I told them.

1198
00:39:57,729 --> 00:39:59,464
They're like,
"If you ever want to get out

1199
00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:01,132
"or you want somebody
to like leave

1200
00:40:01,132 --> 00:40:02,867
"or us to send someone in,

1201
00:40:02,867 --> 00:40:04,335
do this,"
and so I did this.

1202
00:40:04,335 --> 00:40:05,770
‐ Like, I'm scratching
my skin off.

1203
00:40:05,770 --> 00:40:08,273
‐ And sometimes I was like‐‐

1204
00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:09,774
"Do you see me? Help!"

1205
00:40:09,774 --> 00:40:11,910
‐ Do you think
they leave‐‐let dates go

1206
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,578
just for a minute to get
that good TV you need?

1207
00:40:13,578 --> 00:40:15,914
‐ Yeah.
‐ 100% you need to.

1208
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:17,949
‐ You sign up for that, right.
I mean, it's okay.

1209
00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:19,250
‐ Yeah, you do.
‐ Juliet, you mentioned

1210
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:20,518
"the right reasons" thing.

1211
00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:23,187
Are we still okay with
the phrase "the right reasons"?

1212
00:40:23,187 --> 00:40:25,123
‐ No, I mean, I think

1213
00:40:25,123 --> 00:40:26,391
everyone's reasons
are murky now.

1214
00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:28,660
Now that we know Barrack Obama
is watching this show

1215
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:31,329
I mean, you just reach
such a big audience

1216
00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:33,665
that obviously there's
other reasons to be on it.

1217
00:40:33,665 --> 00:40:35,967
I think even just having some
Hannah G. on the show,

1218
00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:38,970
who was an Instagram model
and influencer beforehand

1219
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,772
just shows that, like,
there's more of a reason

1220
00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:43,574
to do it than perhaps like
only the pursuit of love

1221
00:40:43,574 --> 00:40:45,276
and like everyone comes into it
knowing that now.

1222
00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,511
‐ I don't mind it.

1223
00:40:46,511 --> 00:40:48,913
Sean and Catherine Lowe are
the icons of the franchise

1224
00:40:48,913 --> 00:40:50,615
'cause it's the one Bachelor
married to the woman

1225
00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:51,716
he proposed to,
and they've both said

1226
00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:52,850
they went on the show
to travel.

1227
00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:53,952
‐ Yeah.
‐ So I'm like, they traveled

1228
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:55,653
right into each other's arms,
great.

1229
00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:57,555
Back to our second trimester.

1230
00:40:57,555 --> 00:40:58,556
[glass clinging]

1231
00:40:58,556 --> 00:41:00,992
CHRIS: It is time
for the rose ceremony.

1232
00:41:00,992 --> 00:41:02,794
Courtney, Tracy, I'm sorry.

1233
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,529
Take a moment.
Say your good‐byes.

1234
00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:06,931
DEMI: Dr. Demi cut
out the cancer.

1235
00:41:06,931 --> 00:41:09,133
HEATHER: If there was ever to
be a time I was gonna kiss him

1236
00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:10,935
someone like this,
this is the setting.

1237
00:41:10,935 --> 00:41:12,603
‐ It's amazing.

1238
00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:15,606
[fireworks booming]

1239
00:41:17,642 --> 00:41:19,610
‐ I can't call Chris Harrison

1240
00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:23,348
and say I want every
one‐on‐one for the next year.

1241
00:41:23,348 --> 00:41:28,252
I literally can't accept
a proposal after a few months

1242
00:41:28,252 --> 00:41:30,855
of sharing your time and
attention with other people.

1243
00:41:30,855 --> 00:41:32,323
I can't do it.

1244
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:35,560
COLTON: Right now I am insanely
attracted to Cassie.

1245
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,995
‐ None of it made sense, right?
RACHEL: No.

1246
00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:38,363
She's a basket case.

1247
00:41:38,363 --> 00:41:39,597
‐ You're describing the show,
Elyse.

1248
00:41:39,597 --> 00:41:40,865
That's the premise of the show.

1249
00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:42,066
That you went on to date
someone

1250
00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:43,301
while they were dating
other people.

1251
00:41:43,301 --> 00:41:44,469
‐ And she probably just
cracked, right?

1252
00:41:44,469 --> 00:41:46,037
Like, I assume
the pressure gets to you,

1253
00:41:46,037 --> 00:41:47,572
and you sort of can't
handle it anymore.

1254
00:41:47,572 --> 00:41:49,240
And you just say,
"Okay, I'm out. Got to go."

1255
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,776
‐ We ended that clip
with Cassie and Colton

1256
00:41:51,776 --> 00:41:54,045
on, what I call,
their fire festival date

1257
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:56,848
because they were
on just a sandbar with nothing

1258
00:41:56,848 --> 00:42:00,184
and all they did was make out
with each other in the water.

1259
00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:02,420
And, Ben, I have a
very personal question for you.

1260
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:03,721
BEN: Oh, great.

1261
00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:05,790
‐ This is something I've been
thinking about.

1262
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,725
Maybe for men or for women,

1263
00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:09,460
are there benefits
to making out in the water?

1264
00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:12,196
Can you hide things when you
make out in the water,

1265
00:42:12,196 --> 00:42:13,664
how excited you might get?

1266
00:42:13,664 --> 00:42:15,767
‐ Are‐‐like your erections?

1267
00:42:15,767 --> 00:42:17,268
LAUREN: You've nailed it, Ben.
You've nailed it.

1268
00:42:17,268 --> 00:42:18,669
‐ Okay, just want to make sure
we were on the same page.

1269
00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:19,971
RACHEL: He just went there.
He just went for it.

1270
00:42:19,971 --> 00:42:21,873
‐ I didn't want to answer a
question I wasn't being asked.

1271
00:42:21,873 --> 00:42:23,041
[laughter]

1272
00:42:23,041 --> 00:42:25,777
There are huge benefits...

1273
00:42:25,777 --> 00:42:27,512
to being in the water.

1274
00:42:27,512 --> 00:42:28,846
[laughter]

1275
00:42:28,846 --> 00:42:30,381
‐ So this happened for you.

1276
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:32,250
‐ It has happened, yeah.
‐ Okay.

1277
00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:33,918
‐ But let's all see here,
right,

1278
00:42:33,918 --> 00:42:35,920
I'm the only man on this panel.
‐ Sure.

1279
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,655
LAUREN: Thank you
for taking this on.

1280
00:42:37,655 --> 00:42:39,090
‐ Yeah, I'll take this one on.

1281
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:41,125
It's natural.
It happens, right?

1282
00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:43,194
You're not gonna hide it.
Everybody knows it.

1283
00:42:43,194 --> 00:42:46,798
And you're on this show
for almost three months,

1284
00:42:46,798 --> 00:42:50,635
and there's 26 plus beautiful
people that you're kissing

1285
00:42:50,635 --> 00:42:52,904
and around and there isn't
any alone time.

1286
00:42:52,904 --> 00:42:55,640
And so things are gonna happen,
as a man, that you cannot stop

1287
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,508
nor do you actually want it
to stop sometimes.

1288
00:42:57,508 --> 00:42:59,210
‐ It sounds quite normal to me.
‐ Yeah.

1289
00:42:59,210 --> 00:43:01,045
‐ Very healthy and very normal.

1290
00:43:01,045 --> 00:43:02,647
And so this is
what happens though.

1291
00:43:02,647 --> 00:43:04,982
So there's so much to this.
I'm very passionate about this.

1292
00:43:04,982 --> 00:43:07,652
‐ [laughs] Oh.
‐ Because‐‐there's two reasons.

1293
00:43:07,652 --> 00:43:09,787
One is, you get used to

1294
00:43:09,787 --> 00:43:12,256
everybody that's on camera,
everybody in production‐‐

1295
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:14,525
there's 50 to 100
people there‐‐

1296
00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:16,194
seeing you doing this, right?

1297
00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:18,062
It's very clear
what they're watching.

1298
00:43:18,062 --> 00:43:21,399
The second part is, it happened
to me once in a waterfall.

1299
00:43:21,399 --> 00:43:22,967
And...
LAUREN: In a waterfall.

1300
00:43:22,967 --> 00:43:25,169
‐ And I realized it
was happening, but it was

1301
00:43:25,169 --> 00:43:27,038
very far down the season.
I was okay with it.

1302
00:43:27,038 --> 00:43:31,742
I had given up all, you know,
sense of embarrassment from it.

1303
00:43:31,742 --> 00:43:34,879
And it becomes the promo
picture for my season

1304
00:43:34,879 --> 00:43:38,182
So when you do the commercials,
"Hey, 'The Bachelor's coming,"

1305
00:43:38,182 --> 00:43:40,284
that picture of me, you know,

1306
00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:42,353
fully erect is
the promo picture.

1307
00:43:42,353 --> 00:43:44,355
‐ Is that why they called you
"Perfect Ben"?

1308
00:43:44,355 --> 00:43:46,324
‐ Uh... I hope so.

1309
00:43:46,324 --> 00:43:47,692
[laughter]

1310
00:43:47,692 --> 00:43:49,327
But the‐‐
RACHEL: Ben!

1311
00:43:49,327 --> 00:43:51,429
‐ To close up, to hide it,
I mean you do what you do

1312
00:43:51,429 --> 00:43:53,397
in everyday life,
you tuck it, you‐‐

1313
00:43:53,397 --> 00:43:54,665
[laughter]

1314
00:43:54,665 --> 00:43:56,267
‐ I'm so glad you just said,
"To close up."

1315
00:43:56,267 --> 00:43:59,704
Like, "In closing
on my TED Talk..."

1316
00:43:59,704 --> 00:44:02,173
On my Ben Talk, so, okay‐‐
RACHEL: So good.

1317
00:44:02,173 --> 00:44:04,308
‐ You know what, Ben, again
you're with three women.

1318
00:44:04,308 --> 00:44:05,510
We don't know what you do.

1319
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:07,645
[stammers] Okay.
RACHEL: [laughs]

1320
00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:09,580
‐ You're really explaining
a lot to us right now.

1321
00:44:09,580 --> 00:44:11,382
I genuinely appreciate it.
‐ Yes.

1322
00:44:11,382 --> 00:44:12,650
‐ It's the only reason
I'm here.

1323
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:15,052
‐ Do the guys talk
about that in the house?

1324
00:44:15,052 --> 00:44:16,621
‐ You know, honestly,
they don't.

1325
00:44:16,621 --> 00:44:19,323
I felt very alone
and weird‐‐I actually remember

1326
00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:21,159
my first time as the Bachelor
it happening,

1327
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:22,727
and I went back to production,

1328
00:44:22,727 --> 00:44:25,062
and I said,
"Like, what happens here?"

1329
00:44:25,062 --> 00:44:26,264
LAUREN: "Like are you gonna
blur this?"

1330
00:44:26,264 --> 00:44:27,532
‐ Or like, "Are you okay
with this or is this weird?

1331
00:44:27,532 --> 00:44:29,467
"Like, what do I do
in this situation?

1332
00:44:29,467 --> 00:44:32,370
Like, how can I help you,
help me, help the viewers?"

1333
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:33,971
And they're like, "You just do
what you would do.

1334
00:44:33,971 --> 00:44:35,373
Like, try to hide it,

1335
00:44:35,373 --> 00:44:38,676
and so you stand up,
you move around, you...

1336
00:44:38,676 --> 00:44:40,845
‐ Do you talk to the woman
about it?

1337
00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:42,380
Because you're both miked.

1338
00:44:42,380 --> 00:44:43,748
‐ No, you don't talk to them
about it.

1339
00:44:43,748 --> 00:44:44,882
‐ Oh, okay.
‐ Yeah, I mean‐‐

1340
00:44:44,882 --> 00:44:46,217
RACHEL: Well, did a woman
ever call you out?

1341
00:44:46,217 --> 00:44:47,385
JULIET: Yeah, do they
acknowledge it?

1342
00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:49,220
‐ I don't think so. No.

1343
00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:51,589
‐ Did you ever do that Rachel?
‐ Yeah, with Bryan.

1344
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:53,558
‐ Oh, wow.
‐ You did? What'd you say?

1345
00:44:53,558 --> 00:44:54,625
‐ I see it.

1346
00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:55,793
[laughter]

1347
00:44:55,793 --> 00:44:59,130
But we had a phrase‐‐like,
can I say the word "vagina"?

1348
00:44:59,130 --> 00:45:00,431
JULIET: Yes.
‐ Okay.

1349
00:45:00,431 --> 00:45:02,733
We had a phrase in the
hou‐‐that's why I asked you

1350
00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:05,303
did y'all talk about it
because what we would say is,

1351
00:45:05,303 --> 00:45:07,038
did he make your vagina dance?

1352
00:45:07,038 --> 00:45:09,473
That was like the phrase
that we would use, and so‐‐

1353
00:45:09,473 --> 00:45:11,776
‐ That's like a hidden code?
‐ Yeah.

1354
00:45:11,776 --> 00:45:13,978
‐ I think‐‐
LAUREN: Like, are you having

1355
00:45:13,978 --> 00:45:16,113
reaction?
‐ Yeah, yeah.

1356
00:45:16,113 --> 00:45:17,582
‐ Are you feeling it?
‐ That was the phrase we used.

1357
00:45:17,582 --> 00:45:18,616
‐ That's why I asked you
if you said that.

1358
00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:19,684
‐ Interesting.
‐ But that's like a phrase

1359
00:45:19,684 --> 00:45:21,252
that's like out there too,
yeah.

1360
00:45:21,252 --> 00:45:22,653
‐ Yeah, that was our thing.
‐ Yeah.

1361
00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:25,590
‐ It is one of
the most difficult,

1362
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:28,092
one of the most captivating,
confusing scenarios

1363
00:45:28,092 --> 00:45:30,595
that happens as the Bachelor
because it's gonna happen

1364
00:45:30,595 --> 00:45:32,463
and I feel like with Colton,

1365
00:45:32,463 --> 00:45:33,864
it shocked him.
‐ You know,

1366
00:45:33,864 --> 00:45:35,866
Ben, I've gotta‐‐we've got
one more moment

1367
00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:38,069
where it might have happened,
so let's go back to the clips.

1368
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:40,438
RACHEL: Did it?
‐ Nicole...

1369
00:45:40,438 --> 00:45:42,840
said that she's hear
so she can find opportunity

1370
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,976
to leave Miami.

1371
00:45:44,976 --> 00:45:47,111
‐ Well, that's awkward
'cause I was actually there

1372
00:45:47,111 --> 00:45:49,513
for that conversation and
Nicole never said any of that.

1373
00:45:49,513 --> 00:45:51,983
COLTON: I just need time
real quick.

1374
00:45:51,983 --> 00:45:53,517
CHRIS: Onyeka and Nicole,
I'm sorry.

1375
00:45:53,517 --> 00:45:55,386
Take a moment.
Say your good‐byes.

1376
00:45:55,386 --> 00:45:58,656
ALL: Good morning, Vietnam!

1377
00:45:58,656 --> 00:46:00,291
HANNAH G: If I get
the chance to

1378
00:46:00,291 --> 00:46:02,526
have an overnight with Colton,

1379
00:46:02,526 --> 00:46:04,996
then I will definitely take
advantage of it.

1380
00:46:04,996 --> 00:46:07,732
‐ What the... ?
‐ Well... well,

1381
00:46:07,732 --> 00:46:08,933
[laughs]

1382
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:10,368
he was facing away
from the camera in that moment.

1383
00:46:10,368 --> 00:46:12,703
That's maybe an easy trick
to just face away

1384
00:46:12,703 --> 00:46:14,272
from the camera, yeah.
‐ Oh, sure. Okay.

1385
00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:17,642
So we don't know what happened
with Colton there,

1386
00:46:17,642 --> 00:46:19,777
whether he was tucking it
or not.

1387
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:20,911
BEN: Mm‐hmm.
RACHEL: [laughs]

1388
00:46:20,911 --> 00:46:23,047
‐ But it is interesting to me
'cause‐‐I don't know‐‐

1389
00:46:23,047 --> 00:46:26,183
tell me if you guys actually
dance when you watched

1390
00:46:26,183 --> 00:46:28,719
Colton and Hannah G. make out
'cause I was not feeling it.

1391
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,254
I feel like I was watching
two kids

1392
00:46:30,254 --> 00:46:32,723
learn how to make out
for the first time.

1393
00:46:32,723 --> 00:46:34,525
‐ Like Heather and Colton
basically?

1394
00:46:34,525 --> 00:46:35,726
‐ Heather‐‐yeah, yeah, uh‐huh.
‐ Very similar.

1395
00:46:35,726 --> 00:46:37,461
‐ Very similar.
‐ I think it was

1396
00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:39,897
just like a much steamier date

1397
00:46:39,897 --> 00:46:41,532
than we're used to seeing,
like, in general,

1398
00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:43,768
and also it was
an extended shower scene

1399
00:46:43,768 --> 00:46:45,503
earlier in the season
than we usually get.

1400
00:46:45,503 --> 00:46:47,471
Like, I feel like
your waterfall scene

1401
00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:48,873
came a lot later, didn't it?

1402
00:46:48,873 --> 00:46:51,075
‐ Yeah, it was like one
of the last two weeks.

1403
00:46:51,075 --> 00:46:52,777
‐ Yeah, we're still in
the second trimester here,

1404
00:46:52,777 --> 00:46:54,912
so that was like kind of like,
timeline wise,

1405
00:46:54,912 --> 00:46:57,214
surprising that it happened
sooner, basically.

1406
00:46:57,214 --> 00:46:59,850
‐ Okay. Well I think that was
also the date when Colton

1407
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:03,854
said of Hannah that he was
gonna eat that sushi roll.

1408
00:47:03,854 --> 00:47:05,456
That was another line I felt‐‐
RACHEL: What?

1409
00:47:05,456 --> 00:47:06,524
‐ Yes, he said that.
RACHEL: I missed that.

1410
00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:08,592
LAUREN: That was a line I felt
was given to him.

1411
00:47:08,592 --> 00:47:09,694
JULIET: Yeah.
LAUREN: I'm just saying.

1412
00:47:09,694 --> 00:47:10,995
I don't think Colton came up
with that.

1413
00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:11,996
‐ Ew.

1414
00:47:11,996 --> 00:47:13,264
‐ Why'd he call it
a sushi roll?

1415
00:47:13,264 --> 00:47:14,532
‐ I don't want to know.
‐ I actually disagree.

1416
00:47:14,532 --> 00:47:15,733
‐ You don't think so?
‐ No, because he's really

1417
00:47:15,733 --> 00:47:17,234
into sushi, the one thing he
talked about,

1418
00:47:17,234 --> 00:47:18,436
like, this whole time.

1419
00:47:18,436 --> 00:47:21,572
Like, his kind of like
non‐American food that he likes

1420
00:47:21,572 --> 00:47:22,773
is sushi.
LAUREN: Was sushi.

1421
00:47:22,773 --> 00:47:24,842
All right.
‐ It was recurring.

1422
00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:27,044
I bet he thought that was like
a cute or hot thing to say.

1423
00:47:27,044 --> 00:47:28,846
‐ He didn't even know the joke
he was making.

1424
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,581
RACHEL: I must have pressed
fast forward.

1425
00:47:30,581 --> 00:47:33,517
‐ Let's finish
our second trimester.

1426
00:47:33,517 --> 00:47:36,187
‐ A lot of the girls are just
like really‐‐

1427
00:47:36,187 --> 00:47:37,922
‐ Pretty and nice and fun

1428
00:47:37,922 --> 00:47:39,323
and that's what he's‐‐
TAYSHIA: Shiny objects.

1429
00:47:39,323 --> 00:47:40,624
SYDNEY: Yeah, shiny objects.

1430
00:47:40,624 --> 00:47:43,861
Because of that,
I am gonna go home today.

1431
00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:46,063
‐ Hi!
‐ How are you doing?

1432
00:47:46,063 --> 00:47:47,798
‐ Good. Yay!
‐ Me too.

1433
00:47:47,798 --> 00:47:50,501
DEMI: That was fun. Yay.
‐ Good.

1434
00:47:50,501 --> 00:47:54,438
I don't know right now
if I can see myself

1435
00:47:54,438 --> 00:47:55,840
with you at the end of this.

1436
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,641
[wind blowing harshly]

1437
00:47:57,641 --> 00:47:59,410
‐ Here.
‐ Don't worry about it.

1438
00:47:59,410 --> 00:48:00,845
It's okay.

1439
00:48:00,845 --> 00:48:03,047
You have a great group
of girls.

1440
00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:05,750
And you know who's ready
in there.

1441
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:07,385
And there's some that aren't.

1442
00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:09,787
<i>[tense music]</i>

1443
00:48:09,787 --> 00:48:12,656
‐ [groans] This was
when the season

1444
00:48:12,656 --> 00:48:14,291
really took a turn for me,

1445
00:48:14,291 --> 00:48:17,595
Sydney self‐exiting,
Katie leaving with the warning,

1446
00:48:17,595 --> 00:48:19,697
Demi getting sent home
out of nowhere,

1447
00:48:19,697 --> 00:48:21,532
which was a bit of a bummer.

1448
00:48:21,532 --> 00:48:24,034
How did you guys feel
about all the self‐exits?

1449
00:48:24,034 --> 00:48:25,903
‐ I kind of loved it.
‐ Me too.

1450
00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:27,371
‐ But why are you calling it
a self‐exit?

1451
00:48:27,371 --> 00:48:29,507
‐ Colton got dumped. I mean‐‐
RACHEL: Bye!

1452
00:48:29,507 --> 00:48:31,709
‐ Let's call it what it is.

1453
00:48:31,709 --> 00:48:33,778
I really liked it.
I also‐‐

1454
00:48:33,778 --> 00:48:36,247
Katie was, like, pivotal
'cause she kind of like

1455
00:48:36,247 --> 00:48:38,516
really‐‐first of all,
I love it when the women

1456
00:48:38,516 --> 00:48:41,252
won't allow the guy to, like,
walk them out

1457
00:48:41,252 --> 00:48:43,421
to, like, make him feel better
when she's like, "No, I'm okay.

1458
00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:45,122
I don't need you to
protect me from the rain."

1459
00:48:45,122 --> 00:48:46,524
I love that.
It's like, yeah.

1460
00:48:46,524 --> 00:48:48,225
It's like‐‐it's like,
"You just sent me home.

1461
00:48:48,225 --> 00:48:49,727
I don't need you
to take care of me.

1462
00:48:49,727 --> 00:48:50,928
Like, please back up."
‐ Yeah.

1463
00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:52,463
‐ And he didn't take off
his full coat.

1464
00:48:52,463 --> 00:48:53,798
‐ I know!
‐ Like fully cover.

1465
00:48:53,798 --> 00:48:55,366
He's like‐‐brings up the flap.
‐ Take it off, Colton.

1466
00:48:55,366 --> 00:48:56,467
‐ Like, put your coat
back down.

1467
00:48:56,467 --> 00:48:57,568
Like, go back inside.

1468
00:48:57,568 --> 00:48:59,103
‐ And they all left
with these warnings

1469
00:48:59,103 --> 00:49:00,771
that Colton didn't
follow up on.

1470
00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:02,039
He didn't say,
"Who are you talking about?

1471
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:03,808
Which gave us so much drama
for the rest of the season.

1472
00:49:03,808 --> 00:49:05,176
So I was kind of
like glad Colton

1473
00:49:05,176 --> 00:49:06,844
didn't ask any questions.

1474
00:49:06,844 --> 00:49:08,212
‐ Which he should have.
BOTH: Yeah.

1475
00:49:08,212 --> 00:49:10,181
‐ That was one of‐‐
my biggest critique of Colton

1476
00:49:10,181 --> 00:49:13,484
has been that he didn't ask
enough follow‐up questions.

1477
00:49:13,484 --> 00:49:15,352
He didn't dig in enough
on the stories

1478
00:49:15,352 --> 00:49:17,121
and the women
and the situations around him.

1479
00:49:17,121 --> 00:49:19,390
He had‐‐I mean, women are
begging him,

1480
00:49:19,390 --> 00:49:21,625
literally every week,
"I want to tell you

1481
00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:23,093
what is happening
in the house,"

1482
00:49:23,093 --> 00:49:24,628
and he would say,
"Oh.

1483
00:49:24,628 --> 00:49:26,130
Okay, I'm gonna go talk
to the other women."

1484
00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:28,232
Like, just ask, like, who
is it, why are they doing it?

1485
00:49:28,232 --> 00:49:31,435
‐ I think he know or he knows
or maybe he has an inkling

1486
00:49:31,435 --> 00:49:33,838
into who it is
and he doesn't want

1487
00:49:33,838 --> 00:49:35,339
to find out for sure.

1488
00:49:35,339 --> 00:49:36,941
‐ That it's Cassie and Caelynn.
‐ Yeah.

1489
00:49:36,941 --> 00:49:38,175
‐ He didn't want to face the
truth.

1490
00:49:38,175 --> 00:49:39,643
BOTH: Yeah.
‐ He obviously has a hard time

1491
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:41,645
with conflict and, like,
a weird approach to it

1492
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:45,316
'cause if you recall there's
a fight between

1493
00:49:45,316 --> 00:49:49,086
Onyeka and Nicole and he just
goes, as they're fighting,

1494
00:49:49,086 --> 00:49:50,921
he just goes and sits down
next to them,

1495
00:49:50,921 --> 00:49:52,990
and he's just like, "Okay,
I'm just gonna take this in."

1496
00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:54,391
And, like, he doesn't try
to mediate,

1497
00:49:54,391 --> 00:49:55,593
doesn't like ask questions.

1498
00:49:55,593 --> 00:49:59,096
He just sort of like is like
observing or like, um,

1499
00:49:59,096 --> 00:50:00,865
just kind of letting it
all sink in

1500
00:50:00,865 --> 00:50:02,199
and that's pretty weird.

1501
00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:04,301
Like, perhaps ask them some
questions, like to your point.

1502
00:50:04,301 --> 00:50:08,506
‐ Well, next, the winners and
losers of the second trimester.

1503
00:50:13,444 --> 00:50:16,013
‐ All right, it's our
own little awards season

1504
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:17,848
and we are getting
into the winners and losers

1505
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,783
of the second trimester,

1506
00:50:19,783 --> 00:50:23,053
starting things off with‐‐I
think we obviously gotta give

1507
00:50:23,053 --> 00:50:25,990
a winner moment to Caelynn just
for the story that she shared.

1508
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:29,393
I love when a reality show
actually gets real,

1509
00:50:29,393 --> 00:50:31,929
and Caelynn opening up
about that sexual assault,

1510
00:50:31,929 --> 00:50:33,597
and the way that Colton
responded to her,

1511
00:50:33,597 --> 00:50:35,399
I was really glad the show
tackled the topic.

1512
00:50:35,399 --> 00:50:36,867
‐ I thought they handled it
really well,

1513
00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:40,004
and it was given
the right amount of time.

1514
00:50:40,004 --> 00:50:42,106
She was able to tell
her whole story.

1515
00:50:42,106 --> 00:50:43,307
There didn't seem like there
was any kind of,

1516
00:50:43,307 --> 00:50:44,375
like, creative editing.

1517
00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:46,043
There was, like,
a lot of music beds.

1518
00:50:46,043 --> 00:50:48,312
It was like‐‐it was handled
really well

1519
00:50:48,312 --> 00:50:50,648
in a way that made it possible
to kind of like

1520
00:50:50,648 --> 00:50:52,783
keep watching the show
and also root for Caelynn

1521
00:50:52,783 --> 00:50:54,785
and also like
really commend her

1522
00:50:54,785 --> 00:50:57,054
and be impressed that she was
able to be so eloquent

1523
00:50:57,054 --> 00:50:58,422
and go on the show
like she did.

1524
00:50:58,422 --> 00:50:59,924
‐ And by the way,
within these episodes,

1525
00:50:59,924 --> 00:51:02,293
Caelynn was also opening up
to Colton about everything

1526
00:51:02,293 --> 00:51:04,461
and shutting down
the drama with Hannah B.

1527
00:51:04,461 --> 00:51:05,796
Calling the truths.

1528
00:51:05,796 --> 00:51:07,331
Like, that was a really
great moment from her

1529
00:51:07,331 --> 00:51:09,266
when she just pulled her in and
said, "Hey, I don't want us

1530
00:51:09,266 --> 00:51:10,834
to be like this
with each other on the show."

1531
00:51:10,834 --> 00:51:12,503
‐ Didn't you think
that was weird though?

1532
00:51:12,503 --> 00:51:14,972
Like, all this build up
about this drama

1533
00:51:14,972 --> 00:51:17,141
that they have had
and this history,

1534
00:51:17,141 --> 00:51:18,375
and then she's like,
"You know what,"

1535
00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:19,543
they sat down, they were like,

1536
00:51:19,543 --> 00:51:21,712
"Let's just squash it. Okay."
And kept it moving.

1537
00:51:21,712 --> 00:51:23,247
‐ I felt...
‐ I was confused.

1538
00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:25,783
‐ That indicated to me that
they had kind of moved on

1539
00:51:25,783 --> 00:51:28,419
in real life, and then being on
the show and brought it back up

1540
00:51:28,419 --> 00:51:29,687
and then Caelynn said,
"Seriously, let's just move

1541
00:51:29,687 --> 00:51:30,921
past this."

1542
00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:33,123
We never really got answers on
what exactly it was though.

1543
00:51:33,123 --> 00:51:34,658
I'm like, "Did somebody hide
somebody else's shoes?"

1544
00:51:34,658 --> 00:51:35,726
‐ I don't think it was
anything.

1545
00:51:35,726 --> 00:51:36,727
LAUREN: Yeah, I think
it was just...

1546
00:51:36,727 --> 00:51:37,928
‐ Yeah, just petty.

1547
00:51:37,928 --> 00:51:39,263
LAUREN: Pageant drama.
All right.

1548
00:51:39,263 --> 00:51:41,699
We've got to give a loser award

1549
00:51:41,699 --> 00:51:43,467
to the woman whose run and jump
moment

1550
00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:45,169
we all burst at laughing
at earlier.

1551
00:51:45,169 --> 00:51:47,004
Kirpa. Poor Kirpa.
RACHEL: [laughing]

1552
00:51:47,004 --> 00:51:48,205
It was pitiful.

1553
00:51:48,205 --> 00:51:50,007
‐ She made it way too far,
didn't she?

1554
00:51:50,007 --> 00:51:51,775
What was she still doing here?

1555
00:51:51,775 --> 00:51:54,178
‐ I'm so happy we got
to see her one‐on‐one

1556
00:51:54,178 --> 00:51:55,646
when she jumps
into Colton's arms.

1557
00:51:55,646 --> 00:51:57,615
It's like‐‐it wasn't
in slow motion,

1558
00:51:57,615 --> 00:51:59,316
but it felt like
it was slow motion.

1559
00:51:59,316 --> 00:52:00,651
I can't imagine living it

1560
00:52:00,651 --> 00:52:02,453
or having to watch it
back being Kirpa.

1561
00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:04,254
LAUREN: Ben, did you almost
ever drop anybody?

1562
00:52:04,254 --> 00:52:07,291
‐ No, I‐‐we gotta get
some footage of me

1563
00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:08,592
of somebody jumping
into my arms.

1564
00:52:08,592 --> 00:52:10,527
I think Colton just kind of
brings off this vibe of like,

1565
00:52:10,527 --> 00:52:12,496
"I'm gonna catch you,"
and I think I come off

1566
00:52:12,496 --> 00:52:15,065
this vibe like, "Uh..."
‐ Might not work out.

1567
00:52:15,065 --> 00:52:16,967
‐ It's that
"Dirty Dancing" jump like‐‐

1568
00:52:16,967 --> 00:52:18,636
‐ Does he have it?
‐ "I don't know, I don't know.

1569
00:52:18,636 --> 00:52:20,738
He looks kinda strong,
but also a little weak."

1570
00:52:20,738 --> 00:52:22,706
‐ He also looks so big
because he is.

1571
00:52:22,706 --> 00:52:24,541
Like, he's a big dude.
And she looked tiny.

1572
00:52:24,541 --> 00:52:26,310
Like, the proportions of it
were really funny.

1573
00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:28,045
‐ Yeah, it was great.
‐ Visually

1574
00:52:28,045 --> 00:52:29,446
it just really worked.
‐ Yeah.

1575
00:52:29,446 --> 00:52:30,914
‐ But it just felt like Kirpa‐‐

1576
00:52:30,914 --> 00:52:32,349
we didn't know anything
about her really.

1577
00:52:32,349 --> 00:52:34,785
That one‐on‐one felt like just
two people

1578
00:52:34,785 --> 00:52:36,387
who would never
again go on another date

1579
00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:38,055
and she was only around
to keep that kind of drama

1580
00:52:38,055 --> 00:52:39,289
going with the other women,
right?

1581
00:52:39,289 --> 00:52:41,325
‐ Basically.
‐ And to fill a quota.

1582
00:52:41,325 --> 00:52:42,726
‐ Good‐bye, Kirpa.
[laughs]

1583
00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:45,596
We're giving
a weird winner award

1584
00:52:45,596 --> 00:52:47,464
to zombies.
Let's take a look at why.

1585
00:52:47,464 --> 00:52:50,434
‐ I think, like, if there was
like a zombie apocalypse,

1586
00:52:50,434 --> 00:52:53,504
I think there's something
in me that could like fight

1587
00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:55,105
‐ You know what is so funny is,

1588
00:52:55,105 --> 00:52:57,107
on the way to this date,

1589
00:52:57,107 --> 00:52:59,610
I was like,
"Man, who would I want

1590
00:52:59,610 --> 00:53:01,178
if there was
a zombie apocalypse."

1591
00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:02,212
‐ No way.

1592
00:53:02,212 --> 00:53:03,914
‐ Would we want Hannah Beast
in the apocalypse?

1593
00:53:03,914 --> 00:53:06,750
What a weird compliment
and thought that they both had.

1594
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:09,019
‐ Do you think he just
said that?

1595
00:53:09,019 --> 00:53:10,688
‐ Yeah.
‐ Do you think he really‐‐

1596
00:53:10,688 --> 00:53:12,756
like, I don't even understand

1597
00:53:12,756 --> 00:53:14,858
how I'm supposed to feel
about his response.

1598
00:53:14,858 --> 00:53:17,261
I'm just confused,
but I also really like it.

1599
00:53:17,261 --> 00:53:18,629
‐ I feel like
I'm just confused.

1600
00:53:18,629 --> 00:53:20,431
Did‐‐I mean, I don't...

1601
00:53:20,431 --> 00:53:22,433
I don't want to call him a liar

1602
00:53:22,433 --> 00:53:24,234
but I don't believe
that on the way there

1603
00:53:24,234 --> 00:53:27,371
he was in his mind going,
"If there was a zombie...

1604
00:53:27,371 --> 00:53:28,839
‐ Exactly.
‐ "apocalypse,

1605
00:53:28,839 --> 00:53:30,974
"which one of these girls...
‐ Yeah.

1606
00:53:30,974 --> 00:53:32,776
‐ "is gonna be the one
that I want beside me?"

1607
00:53:32,776 --> 00:53:34,845
Like, that
doesn't‐‐I mean, maybe.

1608
00:53:34,845 --> 00:53:37,081
‐ It doesn't. You don't want
to call him a liar, I will.

1609
00:53:37,081 --> 00:53:38,716
‐ But if it did, he should
have proposed that moment, yep.

1610
00:53:38,716 --> 00:53:40,117
‐ Yeah.
‐ I like how you give Colton

1611
00:53:40,117 --> 00:53:41,251
a little bit of
a Southern accent there.

1612
00:53:41,251 --> 00:53:42,553
[laughter]

1613
00:53:42,553 --> 00:53:43,887
‐ If they had
ended up together,

1614
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,122
that would be, like,
a sweet moment.

1615
00:53:45,122 --> 00:53:47,658
It would be like him, like,
indulging her and being like,

1616
00:53:47,658 --> 00:53:49,460
"Oh, you want to talk
about the zombie apocalypse,

1617
00:53:49,460 --> 00:53:51,161
I'll get there with you,"
but it's just weird

1618
00:53:51,161 --> 00:53:52,396
'cause they're both
two weirdos.

1619
00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:53,397
‐ It was weird.
It was weird.

1620
00:53:53,397 --> 00:53:54,631
And we love the show
'cause it's weird.

1621
00:53:54,631 --> 00:53:55,899
‐ Yeah.
‐ The loser

1622
00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:59,002
of the second trimester
is snitching

1623
00:53:59,002 --> 00:54:02,439
because we had a lot of those
"let me tell you why

1624
00:54:02,439 --> 00:54:04,975
this girl's causing drama
in the house" moments.

1625
00:54:04,975 --> 00:54:08,779
Onyeka talking to Colton
about Nicole in particular.

1626
00:54:08,779 --> 00:54:10,748
Juliet, I know you've got
a phrase you love for this.

1627
00:54:10,748 --> 00:54:12,282
‐ Snitches get stitches.

1628
00:54:12,282 --> 00:54:13,917
I didn't make it up.
I can't take credit.

1629
00:54:13,917 --> 00:54:15,252
But it certainly applies here

1630
00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:16,920
'cause every snitch
got sent home.

1631
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,456
‐ Is there ever a way to win

1632
00:54:19,456 --> 00:54:21,592
going to the lead and talking
about another person?

1633
00:54:21,592 --> 00:54:23,393
Does it ever pan out well?

1634
00:54:23,393 --> 00:54:24,428
Oh.

1635
00:54:24,428 --> 00:54:26,130
‐ It panned out well
in Nick's season.

1636
00:54:26,130 --> 00:54:27,598
‐ Oh, well.
‐ It did!

1637
00:54:27,598 --> 00:54:29,733
I forgot about that.

1638
00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:31,568
What makes it work or not?

1639
00:54:31,568 --> 00:54:34,571
‐ I just think if the guy knows
who he's gonna pick,

1640
00:54:34,571 --> 00:54:37,174
it doesn't matter what
the lead‐‐

1641
00:54:37,174 --> 00:54:39,743
or not lead but the person
he wants does.

1642
00:54:39,743 --> 00:54:40,944
‐ Right.
‐ You know?

1643
00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:43,180
As long as that's who he wants,

1644
00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:45,415
he's fixated on that person,
nothing's gonna change,

1645
00:54:45,415 --> 00:54:47,384
and I think it depends
when they decide

1646
00:54:47,384 --> 00:54:48,886
to reveal information
like that.

1647
00:54:48,886 --> 00:54:51,255
Like, during my season
it happened later.

1648
00:54:51,255 --> 00:54:53,924
Not mine‐‐Nick's season,
it happened later on.

1649
00:54:53,924 --> 00:54:57,060
‐ I think there's a level, too,
where if, as the Bachelor,

1650
00:54:57,060 --> 00:54:58,629
and somebody came to me
that I was really into

1651
00:54:58,629 --> 00:55:00,230
and they were snitching,

1652
00:55:00,230 --> 00:55:01,465
I'd want to look at them
and be like,

1653
00:55:01,465 --> 00:55:03,467
"It doesn't matter
what's happening over there

1654
00:55:03,467 --> 00:55:05,435
in the house.
I'm into you.

1655
00:55:05,435 --> 00:55:07,638
And so why waste your energy
and your time

1656
00:55:07,638 --> 00:55:09,640
telling me, like,
that I might get hurt by them

1657
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,941
because in the end of this

1658
00:55:10,941 --> 00:55:12,643
I hope it's just you and I
sitting here.

1659
00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:14,511
‐ But would it deter you
from that person?

1660
00:55:14,511 --> 00:55:16,313
‐ Yeah, 'cause it would
make me think

1661
00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:19,183
are they not into me enough

1662
00:55:19,183 --> 00:55:20,717
to just know that
that stuff doesn't matter

1663
00:55:20,717 --> 00:55:23,053
because we have something
that will rise far above it.

1664
00:55:23,053 --> 00:55:25,122
‐ And maybe that's why you were
a better Bachelor than Nick.

1665
00:55:25,122 --> 00:55:26,590
JULIET: Oh, shots fired.

1666
00:55:26,590 --> 00:55:27,858
[laughter]

1667
00:55:27,858 --> 00:55:29,126
Shots fired.

1668
00:55:29,126 --> 00:55:32,596
‐ The Perfect Ben
versus the Viall Files.

1669
00:55:32,596 --> 00:55:35,465
Anyway, um, so one more winner.

1670
00:55:35,465 --> 00:55:36,667
I love this so much.

1671
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:40,938
Let's take a look at the
concept of the statement dress.

1672
00:55:40,938 --> 00:55:42,973
‐ It was a good day.

1673
00:55:42,973 --> 00:55:45,108
It's just really comforting
to know that he wants

1674
00:55:45,108 --> 00:55:47,978
to progress
and move forward and...

1675
00:55:47,978 --> 00:55:49,780
<i>[dramatic music]</i>

1676
00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:51,248
<i>♪ ♪</i>

1677
00:55:51,248 --> 00:55:53,283
SYDNEY: That is her
statement dress.

1678
00:55:53,283 --> 00:55:54,785
‐ [laughing]
‐ I think it looks like...

1679
00:55:54,785 --> 00:55:55,986
‐ I think it looks fancy.

1680
00:55:55,986 --> 00:55:57,221
‐ Here's what I didn't
understand.

1681
00:55:57,221 --> 00:55:59,923
If I'm gonna go leave, I know
I'm about to get in a car

1682
00:55:59,923 --> 00:56:02,326
and probably ride a plane home,
I'd be in my leggings,

1683
00:56:02,326 --> 00:56:04,895
like, "Dude, I gotta go and
it's gonna be a journey for me,

1684
00:56:04,895 --> 00:56:07,331
so I'm gonna be as comfortable
as possible."

1685
00:56:07,331 --> 00:56:10,067
She did her hair to leave.
Why would she do that?

1686
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:11,668
‐ I'm convinced
that she thought

1687
00:56:11,668 --> 00:56:12,836
he was going to chase
after her.

1688
00:56:12,836 --> 00:56:13,971
‐ Fight for her?
‐ Oh.

1689
00:56:13,971 --> 00:56:15,472
'Cause of their one‐on‐one,
like it was so good.

1690
00:56:15,472 --> 00:56:18,442
'Cause they had that one‐on‐one
back in the first trimester

1691
00:56:18,442 --> 00:56:20,177
where they go to
the amusement park

1692
00:56:20,177 --> 00:56:22,646
in San Diego and it did seem
like they had a connection.

1693
00:56:22,646 --> 00:56:24,414
‐ I liked her
until that moment.

1694
00:56:24,414 --> 00:56:27,317
‐ I wanna ask you guys‐‐Elyse
going to Colton in the night,

1695
00:56:27,317 --> 00:56:29,019
this happened a couple
of times this season,

1696
00:56:29,019 --> 00:56:31,054
which I was glad to see
'cause I kinda feel like

1697
00:56:31,054 --> 00:56:32,589
we hadn't gotten a moment
like that in a minute,

1698
00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:33,690
how does that work?

1699
00:56:33,690 --> 00:56:36,260
Can you go to the producer
whenever, wherever

1700
00:56:36,260 --> 00:56:38,028
and say "I wanna
go visit the lead"?

1701
00:56:38,028 --> 00:56:40,764
‐ I remember a scenario

1702
00:56:40,764 --> 00:56:42,366
where somebody on my season

1703
00:56:42,366 --> 00:56:43,967
came in when we were
in the Bahamas

1704
00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:45,102
and it had been a long day.

1705
00:56:45,102 --> 00:56:46,970
It had been a group date,
and I was exhausted.

1706
00:56:46,970 --> 00:56:48,972
And I had showered,
and I was sitting on my couch,

1707
00:56:48,972 --> 00:56:50,440
and I had just turned
on some sports

1708
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,843
and I was kicked back
and all of the sudden

1709
00:56:52,843 --> 00:56:55,178
my door opens to the condo
I'm staying at

1710
00:56:55,178 --> 00:56:57,414
and here comes a camera guy
and then here comes another

1711
00:56:57,414 --> 00:56:59,116
and I'm like, "Oh, no."
‐ [groans]

1712
00:56:59,116 --> 00:57:00,350
Who's coming?
‐ What's happening?

1713
00:57:00,350 --> 00:57:01,652
‐ And then nobody says
anything to you.

1714
00:57:01,652 --> 00:57:03,253
Production's not even there.

1715
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:04,721
They just start standing
and they're f‐‐

1716
00:57:04,721 --> 00:57:05,789
And you know something's
about to happen

1717
00:57:05,789 --> 00:57:06,990
so you start getting nervous

1718
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:08,358
and anxious
and you're looking around

1719
00:57:08,358 --> 00:57:10,627
then there's a knock
at the door.

1720
00:57:10,627 --> 00:57:13,597
You open it up
and there she was.

1721
00:57:13,597 --> 00:57:15,799
It was Leah and I sent
her home that night.

1722
00:57:15,799 --> 00:57:17,067
‐ Oh, yeah.
‐ Ooh, yeah.

1723
00:57:17,067 --> 00:57:19,903
‐ And I wasn't expecting to, so
it was kind of out of nowhere.

1724
00:57:19,903 --> 00:57:21,571
She came and expressed her
feelings, and I was like,

1725
00:57:21,571 --> 00:57:23,907
"I'm not feeling this way.
I need to let you go."

1726
00:57:23,907 --> 00:57:25,842
I have a comment
about Elyse thought.

1727
00:57:25,842 --> 00:57:27,444
‐ Okay.
‐ So all this being said,

1728
00:57:27,444 --> 00:57:29,913
one of the behind‐the‐scenes
of the show

1729
00:57:29,913 --> 00:57:31,315
is that at this point
in the show

1730
00:57:31,315 --> 00:57:32,716
you're four or five weeks in.
‐ Mm‐hmm.

1731
00:57:32,716 --> 00:57:33,984
‐ Right, and we know this.

1732
00:57:33,984 --> 00:57:36,119
You're only halfway
through filming at that point.

1733
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,654
So she's saying
"I don't have enough time

1734
00:57:37,654 --> 00:57:39,356
and we haven't gotten to know
each other yet.

1735
00:57:39,356 --> 00:57:41,992
What she needs to know is,

1736
00:57:41,992 --> 00:57:44,328
there is so much more time
left to be had

1737
00:57:44,328 --> 00:57:46,396
Just stick this part out
because the second half

1738
00:57:46,396 --> 00:57:48,532
of filming is like
with four people.

1739
00:57:48,532 --> 00:57:49,900
So you get a ton of time
together.

1740
00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:51,368
‐ And she had a one‐on‐one
at this point.

1741
00:57:51,368 --> 00:57:53,337
That's what's insane.
‐ Never before have I seen

1742
00:57:53,337 --> 00:57:55,105
someone who truly did seem like

1743
00:57:55,105 --> 00:57:56,440
they had not seen the show
before.

1744
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,109
Like, Elyse, you're describing
why you're here,

1745
00:57:59,109 --> 00:58:00,844
and saying that it's
why you can't be here.

1746
00:58:00,844 --> 00:58:02,245
It was a little bizarre.

1747
00:58:02,245 --> 00:58:05,849
But we are going to get
into best date award.

1748
00:58:05,849 --> 00:58:08,785
I am saying Hannah G.'s
spa date

1749
00:58:08,785 --> 00:58:11,054
for many of the reasons
that we discussed

1750
00:58:11,054 --> 00:58:14,191
with you earlier, Ben‐‐[laughs]
‐ Sure.

1751
00:58:14,191 --> 00:58:16,059
‐ Things got sexy,
they got steamy,

1752
00:58:16,059 --> 00:58:18,628
they gave massages.

1753
00:58:18,628 --> 00:58:21,999
Are you guys feeling
like this is awkward

1754
00:58:21,999 --> 00:58:23,467
or just totally comfortable
for them at this point

1755
00:58:23,467 --> 00:58:24,634
with this date?

1756
00:58:24,634 --> 00:58:26,436
‐ I honestly‐‐I felt awkward
watching it.

1757
00:58:26,436 --> 00:58:28,638
I think‐‐I'm watching
two people

1758
00:58:28,638 --> 00:58:30,140
have a very intimate moment.

1759
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:32,576
I was feeling all sorts of ways
from my head to my toes.

1760
00:58:32,576 --> 00:58:33,844
‐ Oh. Whoa.
‐ Yeah.

1761
00:58:33,844 --> 00:58:35,612
‐ Wow.
‐ You know, it was a little‐‐

1762
00:58:35,612 --> 00:58:36,980
‐ Did you have
to hide it or...?

1763
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:37,981
[laughter]

1764
00:58:37,981 --> 00:58:39,516
‐ Am I the only one?
‐ Sorry, I couldn't...

1765
00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:41,985
‐ Am I the only one?
‐ I'm not going to lie.

1766
00:58:41,985 --> 00:58:43,887
‐ I fast‐forwarded it.
‐ You did?

1767
00:58:43,887 --> 00:58:45,322
Why?
‐ I don't know.

1768
00:58:45,322 --> 00:58:47,257
There's something awkward
to me about it.

1769
00:58:47,257 --> 00:58:49,359
And we talked a little bit
about this.

1770
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,595
She looks so young and just...
‐ Yeah.

1771
00:58:51,595 --> 00:58:53,864
‐ Like, the way she climbed
on Colton,

1772
00:58:53,864 --> 00:58:55,432
I don't know, I just didn't‐‐
‐ I have never

1773
00:58:55,432 --> 00:58:57,534
been into the giving each other
massages thing I either.

1774
00:58:57,534 --> 00:58:59,569
I don't know.
‐ Like ever or on the show?

1775
00:58:59,569 --> 00:59:01,171
‐ I don't think anybody does
that in real life.

1776
00:59:01,171 --> 00:59:03,573
It's just for the show‐‐
‐ I totally do it in real life.

1777
00:59:03,573 --> 00:59:04,908
‐ You?
‐ Yes.

1778
00:59:04,908 --> 00:59:06,176
‐ Wow, I'm not living right.
‐ Yeah.

1779
00:59:06,176 --> 00:59:08,445
‐ [laughing]
‐ We'll talk after the show.

1780
00:59:08,445 --> 00:59:10,981
‐ Yeah, that's a problem.
‐ Question for you guys.

1781
00:59:10,981 --> 00:59:13,150
Say that Hannah G.
does not win this.

1782
00:59:13,150 --> 00:59:15,085
They have had crazy chemistry.

1783
00:59:15,085 --> 00:59:17,120
‐ Uh‐huh.
‐ A lot of make‐out sesh.

1784
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,322
How do you explain that to
the person you end up with

1785
00:59:19,322 --> 00:59:21,058
when they're watching you have
these hookups on screen?

1786
00:59:21,058 --> 00:59:22,325
‐ I want to know
what you think.

1787
00:59:22,325 --> 00:59:23,560
That's tough.
‐ I want to know what you think

1788
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,928
because you and Peter
had some moments.

1789
00:59:24,928 --> 00:59:26,129
‐ Yeah, we did.
‐ How did you and Bryan

1790
00:59:26,129 --> 00:59:27,130
talk about it later?
‐ We did.

1791
00:59:27,130 --> 00:59:28,498
So Bryan is a person
who has to know

1792
00:59:28,498 --> 00:59:30,067
everything that happens

1793
00:59:30,067 --> 00:59:32,903
and so we watched everything
but I told him before

1794
00:59:32,903 --> 00:59:34,638
the person I think is gonna be
the hardest for you to watch

1795
00:59:34,638 --> 00:59:36,239
is Peter,
so I prepped him for it,

1796
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:38,675
we talked about every episode,
he got his feelings out,

1797
00:59:38,675 --> 00:59:40,243
we communicated
and we moved on,

1798
00:59:40,243 --> 00:59:41,978
but it doesn't mean
that it wasn't easy.

1799
00:59:41,978 --> 00:59:43,313
It was hard.
‐ Yeah.

1800
00:59:43,313 --> 00:59:45,115
‐ How did you deal with it?
‐ It was really hard.

1801
00:59:45,115 --> 00:59:46,817
‐ Yeah.
‐ I mean, honestly it was hard

1802
00:59:46,817 --> 00:59:47,884
for the whole relationship.

1803
00:59:47,884 --> 00:59:49,586
‐ And I didn't help it
by telling two women

1804
00:59:49,586 --> 00:59:50,787
"I love them," right?
RACHEL: Yeah.

1805
00:59:50,787 --> 00:59:51,855
JULIET: No, you did not.

1806
00:59:51,855 --> 00:59:53,457
‐ Yeah, doesn't fix‐‐like help
the problem.

1807
00:59:53,457 --> 00:59:56,226
But then you try to be upfront
and forward.

1808
00:59:56,226 --> 00:59:58,328
Like, I remember the day
after filming stopped

1809
00:59:58,328 --> 01:00:00,464
and Lauren and I were in
Jamaica still

1810
01:00:00,464 --> 01:00:02,299
just hanging out,
I woke her up and I said,

1811
01:00:02,299 --> 01:00:03,733
"Hey, I just want to talk
to you about everything

1812
01:00:03,733 --> 01:00:05,235
that happened this season,
so that you're aware."

1813
01:00:05,235 --> 01:00:06,403
RACHEL: Yep.

1814
01:00:06,403 --> 01:00:07,637
‐ And I thought
that would help.

1815
01:00:07,637 --> 01:00:09,239
And it just‐‐I think
when you watch it back

1816
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,575
it gets even harder.
‐ It's family though.

1817
01:00:11,575 --> 01:00:13,977
Family's telling you, "Oh,
my gosh, did you see this?"

1818
01:00:13,977 --> 01:00:15,245
How do you feel about that?"
‐ Yeah.

1819
01:00:15,245 --> 01:00:17,447
‐ Your friends are saying
something and that's what‐‐

1820
01:00:17,447 --> 01:00:19,316
like, that's the part
that you cannot prepare for.

1821
01:00:19,316 --> 01:00:20,550
‐ Really hard.
‐ It's tough.

1822
01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:21,985
So whoever he did pick

1823
01:00:21,985 --> 01:00:23,920
is definitely going
through a hard time

1824
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,990
watching the relationships they
progress throughout the season.

1825
01:00:26,990 --> 01:00:29,126
‐ And the thing‐‐the whole
Hannah G. date was, like,

1826
01:00:29,126 --> 01:00:30,560
really, like, steamy.

1827
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,095
Like, I was like,
"Is this erotica?"

1828
01:00:32,095 --> 01:00:34,498
Like, it was kind of‐‐like,
it was just a lot.

1829
01:00:34,498 --> 01:00:37,033
‐ And the worst date
of the second trimester

1830
01:00:37,033 --> 01:00:39,069
is going to Demi

1831
01:00:39,069 --> 01:00:41,771
calling her mom
fresh out of lock up

1832
01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:43,573
to talk to Colton.

1833
01:00:43,573 --> 01:00:44,908
Weird, right?
I don't know.

1834
01:00:44,908 --> 01:00:46,276
Would you guys be
a little freaked out

1835
01:00:46,276 --> 01:00:47,644
if somebody did this?

1836
01:00:47,644 --> 01:00:49,212
‐ I was kind of indifferent
about it.

1837
01:00:49,212 --> 01:00:50,514
It really didn't bother me.

1838
01:00:50,514 --> 01:00:51,815
‐ I think it's intimate.
I like‐‐

1839
01:00:51,815 --> 01:00:53,450
I mean, I‐‐honestly,
I kind of like it

1840
01:00:53,450 --> 01:00:55,051
'cause it felt like something
you would do

1841
01:00:55,051 --> 01:00:56,553
in a normal relationship.

1842
01:00:56,553 --> 01:00:58,488
If you're going
through a scenario,

1843
01:00:58,488 --> 01:01:00,123
your partner...
JULIET: No.

1844
01:01:00,123 --> 01:01:01,324
LAUREN: It's a little unusual.
JULIET: No.

1845
01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:03,226
‐ I thought it was intimate
and nice.

1846
01:01:03,226 --> 01:01:06,530
‐ Yes, you would be involved in
like the mom homecoming,

1847
01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:09,332
but, like, a phone call
with someone you barely know

1848
01:01:09,332 --> 01:01:11,368
who've you'd had like
accumulative, what, like,

1849
01:01:11,368 --> 01:01:13,170
90 minutes with?
I don't know.

1850
01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:15,038
I think that's pretty weird.
LAUREN: I have to say

1851
01:01:15,038 --> 01:01:16,806
what an introduction
for her mom

1852
01:01:16,806 --> 01:01:18,842
back into normal society

1853
01:01:18,842 --> 01:01:21,311
to have a phone call
with the Bachelor in Vietnam.

1854
01:01:21,311 --> 01:01:24,447
[laughs] I mean, good for her.
I hope we meet her soon.

1855
01:01:24,447 --> 01:01:28,585
Last, our second trimester
MVP award

1856
01:01:28,585 --> 01:01:30,520
goes to Katie,

1857
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,924
another one to exit
with a warning for Colton

1858
01:01:33,924 --> 01:01:35,392
and another time
where he didn't ask her

1859
01:01:35,392 --> 01:01:36,660
who she was talking about.

1860
01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:39,396
That departure kind of set us
up for the rest of the dramas,

1861
01:01:39,396 --> 01:01:42,532
so I thought Katie went big
when she went home.

1862
01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:44,034
‐ She was confident.
I like it.

1863
01:01:44,034 --> 01:01:45,368
I mean, she‐‐I love it.

1864
01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:47,337
I always think it's weird

1865
01:01:47,337 --> 01:01:48,705
when somebody leaves the show

1866
01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:50,640
and they're
so complimentary still.

1867
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,776
Like, "Oh, my gosh, just thanks
for letting me be here."

1868
01:01:52,776 --> 01:01:54,177
It's like‐‐it's a breakup.
RACHEL: Yeah.

1869
01:01:54,177 --> 01:01:56,379
‐ At any level to breakup,
just get out and go.

1870
01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:57,614
We don't need to settle things.

1871
01:01:57,614 --> 01:01:59,182
Don't make the Bachelor feel
better about himself

1872
01:01:59,182 --> 01:02:00,717
or the Bachelorette feel better
about themselves.

1873
01:02:00,717 --> 01:02:02,619
They just broke up with you.
It should hurt a little bit.

1874
01:02:02,619 --> 01:02:04,421
And if it doesn't,
then just go home.

1875
01:02:04,421 --> 01:02:06,489
‐ Well then they really
weren't into you.

1876
01:02:06,489 --> 01:02:08,592
‐ But I really liked it,
and she also was poised

1877
01:02:08,592 --> 01:02:10,660
when she exited.
There weren't any tears.

1878
01:02:10,660 --> 01:02:12,195
She got across
what she needed to say.

1879
01:02:12,195 --> 01:02:14,264
And also she gave him, like,
a directive, which I liked.

1880
01:02:14,264 --> 01:02:15,932
She was like, "Find them."

1881
01:02:15,932 --> 01:02:17,534
She wasn't like,
"There's problems here."

1882
01:02:17,534 --> 01:02:19,035
She was like, "Go and do it."

1883
01:02:19,035 --> 01:02:20,770
She was motivating him
into action,

1884
01:02:20,770 --> 01:02:22,372
which we've all been craving.

1885
01:02:22,372 --> 01:02:25,508
‐ Next up, the big finish,
the third trimester.

1886
01:02:40,657 --> 01:02:44,461
‐ We got to give a shout‐out to
the long‐time franchise host

1887
01:02:44,461 --> 01:02:45,729
Chris Harrison.

1888
01:02:45,729 --> 01:02:47,197
I just want to go through
and say,

1889
01:02:47,197 --> 01:02:49,266
you know, each of our favorite
"host with the most" moments.

1890
01:02:49,266 --> 01:02:50,333
Rachel, kick us off.

1891
01:02:50,333 --> 01:02:52,636
‐ Well, I like it when
Chris is just a bit shady.

1892
01:02:52,636 --> 01:02:54,371
You know, he walked
into the mansion

1893
01:02:54,371 --> 01:02:57,374
and he called Caelynn Hannah B.
and Hannah B. Caelynn.

1894
01:02:57,374 --> 01:02:58,575
Messed up their names
basically.

1895
01:02:58,575 --> 01:03:00,443
I loved it.
It was a dig.

1896
01:03:00,443 --> 01:03:01,711
LAUREN: It's subtle.
‐ And I was here for it, yeah.

1897
01:03:01,711 --> 01:03:02,912
‐ Ben.
‐ I like that Chris

1898
01:03:02,912 --> 01:03:04,281
has only been on a little bit
more than

1899
01:03:04,281 --> 01:03:05,448
Colton's been shirtless.
‐ Yeah.

1900
01:03:05,448 --> 01:03:09,152
‐ But my favorite‐‐and maybe
the most iconic piece

1901
01:03:09,152 --> 01:03:11,988
of Chris Harrison ever is
when Colton jumps the fence

1902
01:03:11,988 --> 01:03:14,524
Chris yells at him,
"He jumped the effing fence."

1903
01:03:14,524 --> 01:03:16,926
And then pushes the button
to open up the fence

1904
01:03:16,926 --> 01:03:18,228
so he can walk through.

1905
01:03:18,228 --> 01:03:20,263
‐ I think there might be
unseen footage

1906
01:03:20,263 --> 01:03:21,564
of Chris trying to jump
the fence

1907
01:03:21,564 --> 01:03:24,067
and, all my love, but I don't
think he could do it.

1908
01:03:24,067 --> 01:03:26,703
[laughter]

1909
01:03:26,703 --> 01:03:29,973
‐ Chris and Colton had a really
really awkward handshake

1910
01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:32,442
on the beach where they're both
standing about 10 inches

1911
01:03:32,442 --> 01:03:35,078
from the ocean‐‐I don't know
why they had to be so close‐‐

1912
01:03:35,078 --> 01:03:36,913
and they kind of like go up
really high

1913
01:03:36,913 --> 01:03:38,915
for their handshake
instead of a normal level

1914
01:03:38,915 --> 01:03:40,817
and it's so awkward
and really fast

1915
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:42,319
and I just loved it.
It was fantastic.

1916
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:44,454
‐ I loved, in the fence moment,
that Chris

1917
01:03:44,454 --> 01:03:47,190
broke into the slowest jog
possible to go after Colton.

1918
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:48,925
Like, I know he can run faster
than that.

1919
01:03:48,925 --> 01:03:50,527
I don't think he was
at full speed

1920
01:03:50,527 --> 01:03:53,930
but he tried, and eventually
we're gonna see what happens.

1921
01:03:53,930 --> 01:03:56,966
Next up, let's move
into the‐‐oh, this season

1922
01:03:56,966 --> 01:03:59,035
took a turn
for the extreme better

1923
01:03:59,035 --> 01:04:01,504
in the third trimester.
Here's our highlight reel.

1924
01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:05,642
‐ I feel like Cassie
and Caelynn

1925
01:04:05,642 --> 01:04:07,110
aren't genuine.

1926
01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:09,579
They're already talking about,
you know,

1927
01:04:09,579 --> 01:04:10,947
being the next Bachelorette.

1928
01:04:10,947 --> 01:04:13,116
‐ How the [bleep] would Tayshia
know if I'm ready or not?

1929
01:04:13,116 --> 01:04:14,651
‐ Be careful of that.

1930
01:04:14,651 --> 01:04:17,420
I trust your gut more
than I would ever trust

1931
01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:18,988
the comments of anybody else.

1932
01:04:18,988 --> 01:04:22,125
‐ Ooh, so this is when we get
into Caelynn Cassie

1933
01:04:22,125 --> 01:04:24,394
versus Tayshia and Kirpa.

1934
01:04:24,394 --> 01:04:26,196
It's the "she said, she said"
which has caused

1935
01:04:26,196 --> 01:04:29,399
so much drama, and Colton's dad
says trust your gut.

1936
01:04:29,399 --> 01:04:32,502
This late on in the show,
how would you guys handle

1937
01:04:32,502 --> 01:04:33,703
conversations
you were hearing about

1938
01:04:33,703 --> 01:04:35,572
but hadn't actually
heard yourselves.

1939
01:04:35,572 --> 01:04:37,073
‐ I mean, I'm confrontational.

1940
01:04:37,073 --> 01:04:38,975
So I would just like‐‐
‐ We know that about you.

1941
01:04:38,975 --> 01:04:41,044
‐ I would just, I mean‐‐
there's‐‐you‐‐

1942
01:04:41,044 --> 01:04:43,380
time is of the essence
in this whole Bachelor bubble

1943
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:45,281
that you're in and
so I would have gone straight

1944
01:04:45,281 --> 01:04:47,250
to the person who is being
talked about

1945
01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:49,085
I would have gone to Cassie
and I would have Caelynn

1946
01:04:49,085 --> 01:04:50,653
and I would have flat out
asked them

1947
01:04:50,653 --> 01:04:53,056
"What's the deal?
This is what's being said.

1948
01:04:53,056 --> 01:04:54,257
Let me talk about it."

1949
01:04:54,257 --> 01:04:56,259
And then I would have followed
by gut like the dad says.

1950
01:04:56,259 --> 01:04:57,527
‐ I think the problem is,
like we've said before,

1951
01:04:57,527 --> 01:04:58,795
Colton didn't want to believe
that Caelynn

1952
01:04:58,795 --> 01:05:00,096
or Cassie were shady.

1953
01:05:00,096 --> 01:05:01,464
‐ No, he'd already made his
mind up.

1954
01:05:01,464 --> 01:05:03,066
And the men do that.

1955
01:05:03,066 --> 01:05:04,300
‐ Yeah, that's the problem.

1956
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:05,535
I was gonna say that men
seem to do that.

1957
01:05:05,535 --> 01:05:08,705
Cassie and Caelynn are talking
about this behind his back.

1958
01:05:08,705 --> 01:05:10,373
He needs to figure this out now

1959
01:05:10,373 --> 01:05:12,175
and let his pride down enough
to say

1960
01:05:12,175 --> 01:05:14,878
"They aren't here
for the right reasons."

1961
01:05:14,878 --> 01:05:16,913
JULIET: Oh, nailed it.
‐ All right, more highlights.

1962
01:05:16,913 --> 01:05:19,282
‐ Going into hometowns, I can't

1963
01:05:19,282 --> 01:05:21,551
shake your father's hand
and look him in the eye

1964
01:05:21,551 --> 01:05:24,120
and find out I have any doubts
in our relationship.

1965
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,589
I have concerns
about Cassie and Caelynn

1966
01:05:26,589 --> 01:05:28,158
that they're just not ready.

1967
01:05:28,158 --> 01:05:31,194
‐ I don't even know how
to like defend myself.

1968
01:05:31,194 --> 01:05:32,262
‐ [sighs]

1969
01:05:32,262 --> 01:05:33,296
CASSIE: There's no truth to it

1970
01:05:33,296 --> 01:05:35,131
so there's nothing I could be
like explain.

1971
01:05:35,131 --> 01:05:37,934
‐ Right now, I just don't

1972
01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:40,370
think that it's fair to you

1973
01:05:40,370 --> 01:05:42,305
to take you to my hometown.

1974
01:05:42,305 --> 01:05:43,506
‐ They'd make
a very cute couple.

1975
01:05:43,506 --> 01:05:45,708
‐ Has anyone ever exited
so quickly?

1976
01:05:45,708 --> 01:05:47,243
Heather was barely
on that group date.

1977
01:05:47,243 --> 01:05:48,578
She peaced out.
JULIET: She blindsided‐‐

1978
01:05:48,578 --> 01:05:50,713
‐ She's like, "I got my kiss,
and I'm done."

1979
01:05:50,713 --> 01:05:53,116
‐ She blindsided Colton like
Colton blindsided Hannah B.

1980
01:05:53,116 --> 01:05:55,185
I don't think he saw it coming
but, crucially,

1981
01:05:55,185 --> 01:05:56,419
did not seem upset.

1982
01:05:56,419 --> 01:05:58,721
He seemed relieved he didn't
have to make a decision.

1983
01:05:58,721 --> 01:06:00,790
‐ When someone does leave, is
there a little bit of relieve

1984
01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:02,325
where you're like, "You've made
your feelings clear,

1985
01:06:02,325 --> 01:06:03,593
so I don't need to think
about this anymore"?

1986
01:06:03,593 --> 01:06:04,694
‐ Yeah. Yeah.
‐ 100%.

1987
01:06:04,694 --> 01:06:06,262
Yes.
‐ 'Cause usually it's not

1988
01:06:06,262 --> 01:06:07,564
the person that you want
at the very end

1989
01:06:07,564 --> 01:06:09,866
so you're just like, "One down,
few more to go."

1990
01:06:09,866 --> 01:06:11,768
‐ And then we got this.

1991
01:06:11,768 --> 01:06:14,437
‐ Cassie, will you accept
this rose?

1992
01:06:14,437 --> 01:06:16,039
‐ Oh.

1993
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:18,641
COLTON: I am so excited
because this week

1994
01:06:18,641 --> 01:06:21,044
I am going to hometowns.

1995
01:06:21,044 --> 01:06:22,111
‐ I want to show you around

1996
01:06:22,111 --> 01:06:23,913
some of my favorite spots.
‐ Yeah.

1997
01:06:23,913 --> 01:06:25,415
‐ That's where
my pediatrician was.

1998
01:06:25,415 --> 01:06:27,484
‐ Nice.
‐ Do you wanna get married?

1999
01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:28,518
‐ I do.

2000
01:06:28,518 --> 01:06:31,588
‐ It sounds more like you could
just be friends.

2001
01:06:31,588 --> 01:06:33,656
What's the difference?

2002
01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:36,626
HANNAH G: We are in Birmingham,
Alabama right now

2003
01:06:36,626 --> 01:06:38,228
and I'm freaking out.

2004
01:06:38,228 --> 01:06:40,897
I'm also falling in love
with you.

2005
01:06:40,897 --> 01:06:43,066
‐ And I'm falling in love
with you too.

2006
01:06:43,066 --> 01:06:45,368
‐ So if he was to ask you
to marry him right now,

2007
01:06:45,368 --> 01:06:48,438
you would say...

2008
01:06:48,438 --> 01:06:49,906
‐ I would say yes.

2009
01:06:49,906 --> 01:06:52,108
‐ Oh, my God.
‐ [laughs]

2010
01:06:52,108 --> 01:06:53,376
COLTON: Very early on,

2011
01:06:53,376 --> 01:06:55,378
Cassie's been one
of my strongest relationships,

2012
01:06:55,378 --> 01:06:58,581
been somebody who I've been
unbelievably attracted to.

2013
01:06:58,581 --> 01:07:00,316
I think my biggest question
coming in today is,

2014
01:07:00,316 --> 01:07:03,253
where is she
at in our relationship?

2015
01:07:03,253 --> 01:07:05,788
‐ Um... I don't know.

2016
01:07:05,788 --> 01:07:08,391
‐ You're 23.
You got a life ahead of you.

2017
01:07:08,391 --> 01:07:10,727
And you don't have to rush
into anything.

2018
01:07:10,727 --> 01:07:12,729
Right? It's not like
you're buying a car.

2019
01:07:12,729 --> 01:07:14,063
COLTON: I wanted her to say,

2020
01:07:14,063 --> 01:07:15,798
"I'm falling in love
with you" so bad.

2021
01:07:15,798 --> 01:07:18,935
‐ What do you want to have
happen in the fantasy suite?

2022
01:07:18,935 --> 01:07:21,371
COLTON: If I feel like
I'm in love?

2023
01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:22,672
CHRIS: Yeah.

2024
01:07:22,672 --> 01:07:24,707
‐ I could see it happening.

2025
01:07:24,707 --> 01:07:28,044
‐ So we didn't have like
the physical intimacy

2026
01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:29,379
that I wanted.

2027
01:07:29,379 --> 01:07:32,382
‐ Ooh! Guys in fantasy suites.
‐ Oof.

2028
01:07:32,382 --> 01:07:33,616
‐ I don't know
if there's a season

2029
01:07:33,616 --> 01:07:35,385
where the order has
ever mattered more

2030
01:07:35,385 --> 01:07:38,054
because say he slept with
the woman in the first suite

2031
01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:40,123
he'd have to tell
girl number two, like,

2032
01:07:40,123 --> 01:07:42,258
"I'm not a virgin anymore."
RACHEL: Yeah.

2033
01:07:42,258 --> 01:07:43,326
‐ Right.
‐ And I would have gone

2034
01:07:43,326 --> 01:07:44,827
into interview mode
and been like, "How was it?"

2035
01:07:44,827 --> 01:07:46,996
But do you know what order

2036
01:07:46,996 --> 01:07:48,331
you're in when you're going
into the fantasy suites?

2037
01:07:48,331 --> 01:07:51,167
Do you know if you're getting
the lead, first, second, third?

2038
01:07:51,167 --> 01:07:54,370
‐ No, I didn't.
I mean, with Kaitlyn's season,

2039
01:07:54,370 --> 01:07:56,139
I don't know what order I went,
and I never asked.

2040
01:07:56,139 --> 01:07:58,241
I didn't care.
‐ I think I asked.

2041
01:07:58,241 --> 01:07:59,642
‐ Yeah, I don't think
I'd want to know.

2042
01:07:59,642 --> 01:08:01,244
JULIET: I would ask too.
‐ I really think I asked.

2043
01:08:01,244 --> 01:08:03,012
Like, at the beginning,

2044
01:08:03,012 --> 01:08:05,481
like before we even made it
into the actual fantasy suite.

2045
01:08:05,481 --> 01:08:06,583
I had to know.

2046
01:08:06,583 --> 01:08:08,318
‐ Can't you figure it out
by like the timing?

2047
01:08:08,318 --> 01:08:10,386
Like, you've known how long
you've been in this country

2048
01:08:10,386 --> 01:08:13,089
and so if it's been like
two days versus four days

2049
01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:14,324
you know?
‐ There's a way to do it.

2050
01:08:14,324 --> 01:08:15,992
‐ But Peter and Bryan asked me.
‐ Interesting.

2051
01:08:15,992 --> 01:08:17,327
‐ What number they were.

2052
01:08:17,327 --> 01:08:19,862
‐ And you told them?
‐ Yeah, yeah, I told them.

2053
01:08:19,862 --> 01:08:21,965
‐ Are there condoms
in the fantasy suites?

2054
01:08:21,965 --> 01:08:23,933
‐ Yeah, there's condoms.
‐ Good, keeping it healthy.

2055
01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:25,902
‐ Everything you need.
‐ Yeah, all the materials.

2056
01:08:25,902 --> 01:08:27,670
‐ Everything you need?
Oh, what else?

2057
01:08:27,670 --> 01:08:28,838
BEN: There's a whole bowl.
‐ Oh, wow.

2058
01:08:28,838 --> 01:08:30,306
‐ A big ol' bowl.
‐ It is a bowl!

2059
01:08:30,306 --> 01:08:32,775
They must just pack that bowl
up and pass it around.

2060
01:08:32,775 --> 01:08:33,910
‐ A bowl next to the bed.

2061
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:35,578
LAUREN: Why are they not
marketing a fantasy suite kit?

2062
01:08:35,578 --> 01:08:37,180
‐ That's a great point.
‐ Like a box.

2063
01:08:37,180 --> 01:08:39,148
‐ Yeah, a lot of opportunity
there for like brand...

2064
01:08:39,148 --> 01:08:40,817
brand calibration.
‐ Yes.

2065
01:08:40,817 --> 01:08:43,753
Wow, and I would imagine
everybody doesn't‐‐

2066
01:08:43,753 --> 01:08:45,355
I mean, outside
of Colton's season,

2067
01:08:45,355 --> 01:08:46,823
everybody doesn't have sex
in the fantasy suites.

2068
01:08:46,823 --> 01:08:48,157
‐ Yeah.
BOTH: No.

2069
01:08:48,157 --> 01:08:50,159
‐ I mean, definitely not.
‐ No, I‐‐yeah, you're right.

2070
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:52,762
Yes, you don't have sex with
everybody in the fantasy suite.

2071
01:08:52,762 --> 01:08:54,764
‐ I mean, honestly, it's one
of the best times

2072
01:08:54,764 --> 01:08:56,966
to ask some questions that you
haven't felt comfortable asking

2073
01:08:56,966 --> 01:09:02,038
on camera or just to relax
and dance and drink together.

2074
01:09:02,038 --> 01:09:03,973
The fantasy suites were
my favorite week

2075
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:05,541
not because of the sex

2076
01:09:05,541 --> 01:09:07,677
but because of the time
that you get to spend

2077
01:09:07,677 --> 01:09:09,178
you learn a lot.
‐ Same.

2078
01:09:09,178 --> 01:09:10,380
‐ You don't have to name names.

2079
01:09:10,380 --> 01:09:11,914
Did you have sex with everyone
in your fantasy suites?

2080
01:09:11,914 --> 01:09:12,915
RACHEL: No.
‐ Ben?

2081
01:09:12,915 --> 01:09:14,017
‐ No.
LAUREN: All right.

2082
01:09:14,017 --> 01:09:16,052
We love you guys.
Keeping it real.

2083
01:09:16,052 --> 01:09:17,620
All right,
let's finish this up.

2084
01:09:17,620 --> 01:09:19,188
‐ How was your conversation
with my dad?

2085
01:09:19,188 --> 01:09:21,624
‐ I did ask him for a blessing.

2086
01:09:21,624 --> 01:09:23,726
For an engagement.
CASSIE: Mm‐hmm.

2087
01:09:23,726 --> 01:09:25,795
‐ And I didn't get
his approval.

2088
01:09:25,795 --> 01:09:26,863
‐ You didn't?

2089
01:09:26,863 --> 01:09:29,032
‐ Do you love him?

2090
01:09:29,032 --> 01:09:30,566
‐ I think I do.

2091
01:09:30,566 --> 01:09:32,835
‐ There shouldn't be
any hesitation in your mind

2092
01:09:32,835 --> 01:09:34,771
when you meet somebody
that you want

2093
01:09:34,771 --> 01:09:36,773
to spend the rest
of your life with, none.

2094
01:09:36,773 --> 01:09:38,708
‐ I don't want to see
you leave here not

2095
01:09:38,708 --> 01:09:40,710
having what you came here for.

2096
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:42,545
I'm not, like, in love.

2097
01:09:42,545 --> 01:09:43,913
‐ Were you planning on
leaving soon?

2098
01:09:43,913 --> 01:09:45,882
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ And I'm telling you

2099
01:09:45,882 --> 01:09:48,317
right now at the end of this
I want it to be you.

2100
01:09:50,186 --> 01:09:51,854
I love you.

2101
01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,256
I love you.

2102
01:09:55,091 --> 01:09:56,492
RACHEL: She is...
‐ She loves him like a brother.

2103
01:09:56,492 --> 01:09:57,994
Remember when
the psychic guy said

2104
01:09:57,994 --> 01:09:59,896
they were brothers and sisters
from another life?

2105
01:09:59,896 --> 01:10:01,898
Why did‐‐why else would
she say that?

2106
01:10:01,898 --> 01:10:03,066
‐ I don't know
why she said that.

2107
01:10:03,066 --> 01:10:04,067
It is baffling.

2108
01:10:04,067 --> 01:10:05,301
When I first watched that,
I yelled,

2109
01:10:05,301 --> 01:10:06,569
"Why did she do that?"

2110
01:10:06,569 --> 01:10:07,603
RACHEL: She doesn't know
why she said it.

2111
01:10:07,603 --> 01:10:09,906
She is the most confused
person‐‐

2112
01:10:09,906 --> 01:10:12,008
or I really actually don't
think she's confused.

2113
01:10:12,008 --> 01:10:13,242
She knows exactly
what she wants.

2114
01:10:13,242 --> 01:10:14,277
She doesn't want Colton.

2115
01:10:14,277 --> 01:10:15,578
She just doesn't know
how to say it,

2116
01:10:15,578 --> 01:10:17,046
and she doesn't want to hurt
his feelings.

2117
01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,248
‐ The weirdest part is, she
goes into the breakup piece

2118
01:10:19,248 --> 01:10:20,983
with him and she's talking
about the date,

2119
01:10:20,983 --> 01:10:22,485
and she knows
what she's gonna do

2120
01:10:22,485 --> 01:10:23,586
and he was like,
"It was perfect."

2121
01:10:23,586 --> 01:10:24,721
And she was like,
"It was perfect."

2122
01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:26,322
No, it wasn't perfect!
You're leaving!

2123
01:10:26,322 --> 01:10:27,423
Like, you're getting
to walk out here.

2124
01:10:27,423 --> 01:10:28,658
‐ She is so immature.
LAUREN: [sighs]

2125
01:10:28,658 --> 01:10:30,593
‐ It was too much of confusing

2126
01:10:30,593 --> 01:10:32,528
like, language and rhetoric.
‐ Yeah.

2127
01:10:32,528 --> 01:10:34,764
‐ This episode
was unbelievable.

2128
01:10:34,764 --> 01:10:38,101
I loved it so much, so let's
finish with the fence jump!

2129
01:10:38,101 --> 01:10:39,836
Finally.

2130
01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:45,908
WOMAN: Somebody get Chris.

2131
01:10:45,908 --> 01:10:47,610
‐ Colton.

2132
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:50,613
<i>[dramatic music]</i>

2133
01:10:50,613 --> 01:10:53,015
<i>♪ ♪</i>

2134
01:10:54,784 --> 01:10:56,319
He just jumped
the [bleep] fence.

2135
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:58,087
<i>♪ ♪</i>

2136
01:10:58,087 --> 01:11:00,957
‐ We're gonna see what happens
after that fence jump

2137
01:11:00,957 --> 01:11:03,960
but an iconic moment
in franchise history.

2138
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,995
‐ It's gotta be top five
instantly, right?

2139
01:11:05,995 --> 01:11:07,563
‐ Yeah, for sure.
LAUREN: Colton claims

2140
01:11:07,563 --> 01:11:09,165
he quit the show.
We've talked about this.

2141
01:11:09,165 --> 01:11:10,533
I don't think you can quit
the show.

2142
01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:11,834
You're on it.
They're gonna follow you.

2143
01:11:11,834 --> 01:11:12,902
What do you guys think?

2144
01:11:12,902 --> 01:11:14,504
‐ He's already‐‐he doesn't quit
the show.

2145
01:11:14,504 --> 01:11:16,773
The show then just follows him
to wherever he is next

2146
01:11:16,773 --> 01:11:18,975
where they continue.
You can't quit the show.

2147
01:11:18,975 --> 01:11:21,144
RACHEL: They couldn't find him.
That's a fact.

2148
01:11:21,144 --> 01:11:23,146
‐ For like a few hours, right?
‐ Yeah, that's a fact.

2149
01:11:23,146 --> 01:11:25,381
‐ It's very "Truman Show."
This is kind of what happens.

2150
01:11:25,381 --> 01:11:27,550
Like, that's kind of what
happens in that movie.

2151
01:11:27,550 --> 01:11:30,319
Also, just the line of
"somebody call Chris,"

2152
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:33,289
that's amazing too.
It sets it so perfectly.

2153
01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:34,791
‐ I want people going like,
[sweetly] "Colton."

2154
01:11:34,791 --> 01:11:37,193
And they're like,
"The dogs are barking."

2155
01:11:37,193 --> 01:11:39,929
‐ All right, our winners and
losers from the third trimester

2156
01:11:39,929 --> 01:11:43,065
the loser here is sex, guys.
Take a look.

2157
01:11:43,065 --> 01:11:44,267
‐ Oh, boy.

2158
01:11:44,267 --> 01:11:47,703
Without getting into details,
I've been very close.

2159
01:11:47,703 --> 01:11:51,174
I mean, I pretty done
every‐‐like,

2160
01:11:51,174 --> 01:11:52,909
I'm experienced in other ways.

2161
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:56,078
‐ I wish someone had asked him

2162
01:11:56,078 --> 01:11:58,181
if he was confident
in his experience.

2163
01:11:58,181 --> 01:12:00,416
Do you guys feel Colton
is confident?

2164
01:12:00,416 --> 01:12:02,618
‐ Not from that explanation.
‐ No.

2165
01:12:02,618 --> 01:12:04,020
‐ It looked like he couldn't
even describe

2166
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:05,555
what it is that
he's done.

2167
01:12:05,555 --> 01:12:07,056
‐ Someone should have told him
about the bases.

2168
01:12:07,056 --> 01:12:08,524
It would have been a lot easier
for him to explain

2169
01:12:08,524 --> 01:12:09,692
what he's done.

2170
01:12:09,692 --> 01:12:11,394
‐ Let's not forget
that this is the man who said

2171
01:12:11,394 --> 01:12:14,263
he wanted his first time
to be her best time.

2172
01:12:14,263 --> 01:12:15,431
‐ Ooh, good point.
‐ Yeah.

2173
01:12:15,431 --> 01:12:18,134
But the loser is sex
because there is no sex.

2174
01:12:18,134 --> 01:12:19,435
JULIET: No, no sex.
BEN: No.

2175
01:12:19,435 --> 01:12:21,070
‐ Were you surprised
that Colton

2176
01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:22,605
and Tayshia did not have sex?

2177
01:12:22,605 --> 01:12:24,073
‐ I don't think so.
‐ Yeah.

2178
01:12:24,073 --> 01:12:26,509
The whole time, if he wasn't,
like, confident

2179
01:12:26,509 --> 01:12:27,877
with the person he wanted‐‐
and we now know

2180
01:12:27,877 --> 01:12:29,445
he really wanted Cassie‐‐

2181
01:12:29,445 --> 01:12:31,848
it would have been kind of sad
if he'd just like

2182
01:12:31,848 --> 01:12:33,216
gone for it 'cause he was
in the fantasy suites,

2183
01:12:33,216 --> 01:12:35,117
so I think he made
the right choice.

2184
01:12:35,117 --> 01:12:38,087
‐ Yeah, Tayshia seemed bummed.
JULIET: Yes, she did.

2185
01:12:38,087 --> 01:12:39,589
RACHEL: Totally.
They had different expectations

2186
01:12:39,589 --> 01:12:41,257
going into the fantasy suite.
‐ Yeah.

2187
01:12:41,257 --> 01:12:44,861
The winner‐‐our first winner‐‐
of the third trimester:

2188
01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:46,095
dads.

2189
01:12:46,095 --> 01:12:48,598
So we had Colton go to all
the hometowns.

2190
01:12:48,598 --> 01:12:50,833
He asked every single dad
for the blessing,

2191
01:12:50,833 --> 01:12:52,134
and we got some great lines.

2192
01:12:52,134 --> 01:12:53,903
"There's no microwaving
a relationship,"

2193
01:12:53,903 --> 01:12:55,304
from Tayshia's dad.
‐ Mm‐hmm.

2194
01:12:55,304 --> 01:12:58,174
‐ If you guys had to pick
your favorite dad... ?

2195
01:12:58,174 --> 01:12:59,375
‐ Ooh.
‐ Tayshia.

2196
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:00,676
‐ Tayshia's dad, okay.

2197
01:13:00,676 --> 01:13:02,044
‐ I thought Tayshia's dad was‐‐
I actually was

2198
01:13:02,044 --> 01:13:03,679
a little bit upset

2199
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:06,215
though that Tayshia's dad
at the end gave the blessing

2200
01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:07,550
'cause I thought he had
a great reason why

2201
01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:10,419
he wasn't going to and
he should have stuck his gut.

2202
01:13:10,419 --> 01:13:11,854
‐ So that's why I wouldn't
give it to him.

2203
01:13:11,854 --> 01:13:13,256
I'm gonna give it
to Cassie's dad.

2204
01:13:13,256 --> 01:13:15,992
Realistically, your dad isn't
going to give the blessing.

2205
01:13:15,992 --> 01:13:17,193
My dad didn't give
the blessing.

2206
01:13:17,193 --> 01:13:18,527
‐ And he flew to Portugal.
‐ He wouldn't even be on TV.

2207
01:13:18,527 --> 01:13:20,897
‐ My dad‐‐yeah, he met‐‐
yeah, and flew to Portugal.

2208
01:13:20,897 --> 01:13:22,098
My dad met all three

2209
01:13:22,098 --> 01:13:23,666
but did not give the blessing
to any of them.

2210
01:13:23,666 --> 01:13:25,501
‐ Juliet.
‐ Definitely Caelynn's dad.

2211
01:13:25,501 --> 01:13:26,769
I thought he was really sweet.

2212
01:13:26,769 --> 01:13:28,704
That was a really touching
moment between him and Caelynn

2213
01:13:28,704 --> 01:13:30,439
‐ Oh, yeah, John.
‐ Yeah, John was really great.

2214
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:31,474
RACHEL: I did cry.
He was sweet.

2215
01:13:31,474 --> 01:13:32,508
‐ And then he similarly,
was like,

2216
01:13:32,508 --> 01:13:33,509
"Why do you have
to get married?"

2217
01:13:33,509 --> 01:13:34,977
He was like,
"Can't you just be friends?"

2218
01:13:34,977 --> 01:13:36,045
‐ Best buds.

2219
01:13:36,045 --> 01:13:37,413
‐ But then he gives
his blessing.

2220
01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:39,649
I never understand
why they fold like that.

2221
01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:41,851
‐ I know, that's very clearly
a very sweet man, though.

2222
01:13:41,851 --> 01:13:43,386
I really liked him.
‐ Yeah, I forgot about John.

2223
01:13:43,386 --> 01:13:46,255
‐ We've got another loser.
It's our Bachelor.

2224
01:13:46,255 --> 01:13:47,657
Colton Underwood.

2225
01:13:47,657 --> 01:13:49,892
The reason we're giving Colton
a loser title

2226
01:13:49,892 --> 01:13:51,494
in the third trimester is

2227
01:13:51,494 --> 01:13:53,996
in part because he did not
tell Cassie

2228
01:13:53,996 --> 01:13:55,598
until they were in Portugal

2229
01:13:55,598 --> 01:13:57,433
that he had not gotten
the blessing from her dad.

2230
01:13:57,433 --> 01:13:59,101
That felt like a big misstep.

2231
01:13:59,101 --> 01:14:00,970
‐ When was he supposed
to tell her?

2232
01:14:00,970 --> 01:14:02,705
‐ I think at the hometown?

2233
01:14:02,705 --> 01:14:04,440
What do you think, Juliet?
‐ Yeah, at the end of the date.

2234
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,175
Like, don't you reconvege,
the two of you,

2235
01:14:06,175 --> 01:14:08,244
before you actually head out?
He could have told her then.

2236
01:14:08,244 --> 01:14:10,046
‐ Okay, but do you realize
how the setup

2237
01:14:10,046 --> 01:14:11,847
is for that afterward?

2238
01:14:11,847 --> 01:14:14,450
It's for the person
to profess their love.

2239
01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:15,918
‐ Right.
‐ That's normally what happens.

2240
01:14:15,918 --> 01:14:19,455
So he was trying to get her
to profess her feelings.

2241
01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:20,957
That's all he was focused on.
‐ But that's‐‐

2242
01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:22,425
‐ Which she didn't do.
‐ But, again, Rachel,

2243
01:14:22,425 --> 01:14:24,126
like this is what we were
talking about earlier.

2244
01:14:24,126 --> 01:14:26,996
If he is going to be the best
Bachelor possible,

2245
01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:28,898
what he has to do
in that moment is say,

2246
01:14:28,898 --> 01:14:30,766
"I don't care if you profess
your love right now,

2247
01:14:30,766 --> 01:14:32,168
"this something's more
important.

2248
01:14:32,168 --> 01:14:33,836
Like, I love you
and I want to be with you."

2249
01:14:33,836 --> 01:14:35,938
And so in this moment,
instead of what the show needs

2250
01:14:35,938 --> 01:14:38,174
and instead of what this‐‐
typically happens here,

2251
01:14:38,174 --> 01:14:39,842
"I don't care about that.
I care about you.

2252
01:14:39,842 --> 01:14:41,043
Your dad won't give me
my blessing

2253
01:14:41,043 --> 01:14:42,878
and I need him to
or I need you to talk to him

2254
01:14:42,878 --> 01:14:44,013
because I love you."
RACHEL: Yeah.

2255
01:14:44,013 --> 01:14:45,748
Like, that's what he needs
to do if this is his wife.

2256
01:14:49,785 --> 01:14:52,254
KIRPA: Last week Katie said
there's girls

2257
01:14:52,254 --> 01:14:53,889
that are still here right now

2258
01:14:53,889 --> 01:14:55,992
that are not ready to be
married.

2259
01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:57,193
TAYSHIA: I'm definitely ready
for marriage.

2260
01:14:57,193 --> 01:15:00,596
‐ I‐‐I'm not questioning
your readiness.

2261
01:15:00,596 --> 01:15:02,531
‐ How the [bleep] would Tayshia
know if I'm ready or not?

2262
01:15:02,531 --> 01:15:05,167
I'm 100% ready.
‐ I am so ready.

2263
01:15:05,167 --> 01:15:07,370
‐ I have concerns
about Cassie and Caelynn

2264
01:15:07,370 --> 01:15:09,572
in that they're just not ready.

2265
01:15:11,273 --> 01:15:12,575
‐ Caelynn, I'm sorry.

2266
01:15:12,575 --> 01:15:14,977
Take a moment.
Say your good‐byes.

2267
01:15:24,587 --> 01:15:26,655
‐ So, Ben, you just
said, "What the..."

2268
01:15:26,655 --> 01:15:28,791
So many people have talked
about this exchange.

2269
01:15:28,791 --> 01:15:30,793
Rachel, what did it indicate
to you

2270
01:15:30,793 --> 01:15:32,094
'cause a lot of people have
been saying

2271
01:15:32,094 --> 01:15:33,396
did that mean Cassie and
Caelynn both

2272
01:15:33,396 --> 01:15:35,531
wanted to be Bachelorette
because of this weird good‐bye

2273
01:15:35,531 --> 01:15:36,999
they had.
‐ Yeah, she basically was like

2274
01:15:36,999 --> 01:15:38,567
"Listen, I've got
'Bachelorette' sewed up

2275
01:15:38,567 --> 01:15:39,902
and at this point
I'm number four."

2276
01:15:39,902 --> 01:15:42,304
You got get engaged."
But did you see Cassie's face?

2277
01:15:42,304 --> 01:15:44,440
When she says "get engaged,"
Cassie goes like this‐‐

2278
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:46,075
JULIET: Yeah.
‐ Like, "Wait, no.

2279
01:15:46,075 --> 01:15:48,010
I'm not ready for that.
God no!"

2280
01:15:48,010 --> 01:15:50,246
[laughs]
‐ Yeah, it was a lot.

2281
01:15:50,246 --> 01:15:52,715
I kinda‐‐but when I was
released from Kaitlyn's season

2282
01:15:52,715 --> 01:15:54,917
I hugged Sean, I said,
"good luck, buddy,

2283
01:15:54,917 --> 01:15:56,652
like, go get your one,"
so like,

2284
01:15:56,652 --> 01:15:58,788
I knew he loved Kaitlyn,
and I knew that this was

2285
01:15:58,788 --> 01:16:00,756
what this was going
to go towards.

2286
01:16:00,756 --> 01:16:02,725
So I get what she was saying.

2287
01:16:02,725 --> 01:16:04,527
but I do wonder,
in that moment,

2288
01:16:04,527 --> 01:16:05,995
if Caelynn had a moment of joy

2289
01:16:05,995 --> 01:16:08,130
and Cassie had a moment
of freak out like,

2290
01:16:08,130 --> 01:16:09,932
"One less person here."

2291
01:16:09,932 --> 01:16:11,734
‐ Uh‐oh.
‐ "I'm gonna get engaged."

2292
01:16:11,734 --> 01:16:13,035
‐ Juliet?
‐ "Oh, crap."

2293
01:16:13,035 --> 01:16:14,270
That was sort of what her face
looked like.

2294
01:16:14,270 --> 01:16:15,371
‐ Yeah.
‐ Just like a big "oh crap"

2295
01:16:15,371 --> 01:16:17,373
like, "I have to‐‐or I guess
I don't have to do this,

2296
01:16:17,373 --> 01:16:20,309
but now I might be the one
who's supposed to get engaged."

2297
01:16:20,309 --> 01:16:21,844
She looked really terrified,

2298
01:16:21,844 --> 01:16:23,913
and also it just sort of
indicates that they both view

2299
01:16:23,913 --> 01:16:27,249
this as a competition,
which it is, of course,

2300
01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:29,151
but if there
are deeper feelings

2301
01:16:29,151 --> 01:16:31,187
that maybe the way you
perceive it change it.

2302
01:16:31,187 --> 01:16:34,256
‐ Can I just say that
when she gets a rose,

2303
01:16:34,256 --> 01:16:36,325
when her name is called,
she goes like this,

2304
01:16:36,325 --> 01:16:37,993
"Oh." I am telling you,

2305
01:16:37,993 --> 01:16:39,528
I really think she was trying
to cancel

2306
01:16:39,528 --> 01:16:40,930
herself out after hometowns.

2307
01:16:40,930 --> 01:16:42,731
LAUREN: Do you think Cassie
just wants to be Bachelorette?

2308
01:16:42,731 --> 01:16:44,333
‐ I... yes.

2309
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:46,102
Forget it.
Yes, yes!

2310
01:16:46,102 --> 01:16:47,837
I do, I do.

2311
01:16:47,837 --> 01:16:50,439
‐ Okay, well, we'll see
what happens.

2312
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,576
Next, we want to get
into our MVP.

2313
01:16:53,576 --> 01:16:57,313
The true MVP
of the entire season maybe

2314
01:16:57,313 --> 01:16:59,748
has to be the fence jump, guys.

2315
01:16:59,748 --> 01:17:01,650
Can we give a round of applause
for the fence jump

2316
01:17:01,650 --> 01:17:03,919
and for Colton.
‐ The best fence ever.

2317
01:17:03,919 --> 01:17:05,821
‐ Yeah, that was amazing.
LAUREN: And just the MVP

2318
01:17:05,821 --> 01:17:07,323
of the fence.
‐ Truly hard.

2319
01:17:07,323 --> 01:17:10,659
‐ Has there ever been
a gate, a fence,

2320
01:17:10,659 --> 01:17:13,062
anything that has won
our hearts

2321
01:17:13,062 --> 01:17:15,231
like this as
an inanimate object?

2322
01:17:15,231 --> 01:17:16,799
BOTH: No.
‐ Where does he go?

2323
01:17:16,799 --> 01:17:18,767
So here's my que‐‐we'll
find it out I think.

2324
01:17:18,767 --> 01:17:20,236
What was his thought process?

2325
01:17:20,236 --> 01:17:22,938
"I'm so angry, I'm so mad,
I'm gonna jump this fence

2326
01:17:22,938 --> 01:17:24,907
"and just go.
Like, I'm in Portugal.

2327
01:17:24,907 --> 01:17:26,375
I'm not gonna get home
anytime soon."

2328
01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:28,978
But the fence, the fact
that there was a fence

2329
01:17:28,978 --> 01:17:31,914
that he had to leap
and he did it successfully

2330
01:17:31,914 --> 01:17:34,650
is such a beautiful moment
in "Bachelor" history.

2331
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:36,919
‐ And just into the night,
into the darkness.

2332
01:17:36,919 --> 01:17:38,521
I've talked to Colton
about this and he's like,

2333
01:17:38,521 --> 01:17:40,856
"No, I jumped over
on the other side,"

2334
01:17:40,856 --> 01:17:44,093
and he said he actually thought
that someone from the crew

2335
01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:45,694
would be on the other side
because he's so used to having

2336
01:17:45,694 --> 01:17:47,329
people from the crew around
him, but no.

2337
01:17:47,329 --> 01:17:49,498
It was just pitch black,
and he was gone.

2338
01:17:49,498 --> 01:17:51,367
‐ And no phone.
Like, no flashlight.

2339
01:17:51,367 --> 01:17:53,102
And also no calling anyone.

2340
01:17:53,102 --> 01:17:54,970
Amazing.
LAUREN: Yeah, amazing.

2341
01:17:54,970 --> 01:17:56,539
We're gonna find out more
about what happened

2342
01:17:56,539 --> 01:17:59,708
after the fence jump, but
now we know who our finals are

2343
01:17:59,708 --> 01:18:02,711
we can also get excited for
"Bachelor in Paradise."

2344
01:18:02,711 --> 01:18:04,446
‐ Yes!
‐ Yes.

2345
01:18:04,446 --> 01:18:06,849
We're doing
the "Bachelor in Paradise"

2346
01:18:06,849 --> 01:18:08,083
lottery draft.

2347
01:18:08,083 --> 01:18:10,252
For me, personally, I had to
kind of look into how

2348
01:18:10,252 --> 01:18:12,454
a fantasy draft works,
but this is the best way

2349
01:18:12,454 --> 01:18:13,722
for me to learn, yeah.
RACHEL: You learn quickly.

2350
01:18:13,722 --> 01:18:16,325
‐ So the rules of the draft‐‐
it's a snake draft.

2351
01:18:16,325 --> 01:18:17,793
Tell me if I'm getting
this right or wrong, Juliet.

2352
01:18:17,793 --> 01:18:19,528
We're gonna go just back
and forth here,

2353
01:18:19,528 --> 01:18:21,463
naming our contestants
who we feel

2354
01:18:21,463 --> 01:18:22,865
would absolutely slay

2355
01:18:22,865 --> 01:18:24,333
on the next season of
"Paradise."

2356
01:18:24,333 --> 01:18:27,336
I'm gonna start us off 'cause
I have had to learn so much

2357
01:18:27,336 --> 01:18:29,104
about this that I wanna
make sure I get it right.

2358
01:18:29,104 --> 01:18:30,339
I'm going with Demi.

2359
01:18:30,339 --> 01:18:32,041
Demi's gonna kill
on "Paradise."

2360
01:18:32,041 --> 01:18:34,143
RACHEL: That's a good pick.
‐ She brought us emotion,

2361
01:18:34,143 --> 01:18:36,111
humor, sexiness, drama,

2362
01:18:36,111 --> 01:18:37,913
those are the four boxes to
check for me

2363
01:18:37,913 --> 01:18:40,115
in "Paradise" especially.
Rachel.

2364
01:18:40,115 --> 01:18:41,850
‐ For the second pick in
the draft,

2365
01:18:41,850 --> 01:18:44,220
I'm gonna go with Nicole.
JULIET: Ooh.

2366
01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:45,854
‐ Because Nicole brings it all.

2367
01:18:45,854 --> 01:18:48,424
She's a person who is desperate
for love,

2368
01:18:48,424 --> 01:18:51,327
a man, a relationship,
and you gotta have that.

2369
01:18:51,327 --> 01:18:53,062
And there are gonna be plenty
of men to choose from

2370
01:18:53,062 --> 01:18:55,397
She can cry on point.

2371
01:18:55,397 --> 01:18:57,533
And she's not afraid of drama
and confrontation.

2372
01:18:57,533 --> 01:18:59,902
LAUREN: No, she brought up
that touch word of bullying.

2373
01:18:59,902 --> 01:19:02,371
‐ Oh, yeah, you gotta have
somebody bring that up.

2374
01:19:02,371 --> 01:19:03,539
Ben.

2375
01:19:03,539 --> 01:19:05,374
‐ I'm gonna go with somebody
that will be a frontrunner

2376
01:19:05,374 --> 01:19:08,410
in "Paradise."
The men will go after her.

2377
01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:10,879
And she has an attitude.
That's Hannah B.

2378
01:19:10,879 --> 01:19:12,848
LAUREN: [gasps]
BOTH: The Beast.

2379
01:19:12,848 --> 01:19:14,650
I want Hannah B.
for "Bachelorette."

2380
01:19:14,650 --> 01:19:16,552
Sorry, I do.
‐ I do too.

2381
01:19:16,552 --> 01:19:17,853
‐ But she'd be great in
"Paradise."

2382
01:19:17,853 --> 01:19:19,054
‐ I don't see that.
‐ You don't see it?

2383
01:19:19,054 --> 01:19:20,656
‐ I see "Paradise."
‐ She'd be good.

2384
01:19:20,656 --> 01:19:22,324
‐ Okay, she's gonna growl.
Juliet.

2385
01:19:22,324 --> 01:19:23,459
JULIET: With my first pick,

2386
01:19:23,459 --> 01:19:25,327
sense we're doing a snake draft
I get two in a row,

2387
01:19:25,327 --> 01:19:27,963
I'm going with Onyeka.
She also loves to fight.

2388
01:19:27,963 --> 01:19:30,132
Just feels like she'll wanna be
in the mix

2389
01:19:30,132 --> 01:19:32,901
or I see herself inserting
herself into many fights.

2390
01:19:32,901 --> 01:19:34,637
And I'm just hopeful that
she'll be bringing

2391
01:19:34,637 --> 01:19:37,439
a lot of heat, and then
a sneaky second round pick

2392
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,142
is Bri, who barely was
on the show,

2393
01:19:40,142 --> 01:19:41,844
but was a social media
sensation

2394
01:19:41,844 --> 01:19:43,178
and is also really hot.

2395
01:19:43,178 --> 01:19:44,513
So as a result, I feel like

2396
01:19:44,513 --> 01:19:46,048
"Paradise" will be her time
to shine.

2397
01:19:46,048 --> 01:19:47,850
She was the one who spoke in
the Australian accent

2398
01:19:47,850 --> 01:19:49,718
though she is not Australian.

2399
01:19:49,718 --> 01:19:51,253
‐ I think she's
the new Grocery Store Joe.

2400
01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:52,988
‐ Yeah. I think so too.
RACHEL: Oh, yeah. Good point.

2401
01:19:52,988 --> 01:19:55,457
So I think going to "Paradise,"
there's a lot

2402
01:19:55,457 --> 01:19:57,259
that she has going for her.
‐ And she's gorgeous.

2403
01:19:57,259 --> 01:19:58,661
And you know Onyeka
brought up the phrase

2404
01:19:58,661 --> 01:19:59,862
"emotionally unstable."

2405
01:19:59,862 --> 01:20:01,463
So she's gonna have that
to toss around.

2406
01:20:01,463 --> 01:20:02,865
Ben, back to you.

2407
01:20:02,865 --> 01:20:04,967
‐ I'm gonna go with somebody
that's vertical jump

2408
01:20:04,967 --> 01:20:06,769
is gonna increase inches

2409
01:20:06,769 --> 01:20:08,237
over the off season.

2410
01:20:08,237 --> 01:20:09,638
She's gonna come back
to the beach

2411
01:20:09,638 --> 01:20:12,041
ready to jump
into somebody's arms

2412
01:20:12,041 --> 01:20:14,576
successfully, and that's Kirpa.
‐ Oh, nice.

2413
01:20:14,576 --> 01:20:15,944
[laughter]

2414
01:20:15,944 --> 01:20:17,513
‐ I like the buildup.

2415
01:20:17,513 --> 01:20:18,714
‐ I was wondering
where you were going.

2416
01:20:18,714 --> 01:20:20,049
As long as she gets
that jump right,

2417
01:20:20,049 --> 01:20:21,583
Kirpa could leave "Paradise"
after that for me,

2418
01:20:21,583 --> 01:20:22,785
and I'd be like,
"You redeemed yourself."

2419
01:20:22,785 --> 01:20:24,153
BEN: Yeah, you did all right.
‐ Yeah, you did all right.

2420
01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:25,254
BEN: You worked hard.
‐ Rachel.

2421
01:20:25,254 --> 01:20:26,889
‐ Okay, I'm gonna
change it up a bit.

2422
01:20:26,889 --> 01:20:29,391
I'm gonna go with someone who
is a little bit more stable

2423
01:20:29,391 --> 01:20:30,926
who we didn't get that much of

2424
01:20:30,926 --> 01:20:32,928
but you can tell
that she's a grounded chick.

2425
01:20:32,928 --> 01:20:35,130
I'm going with Sydney.
LAUREN: Mm.

2426
01:20:35,130 --> 01:20:36,765
‐ She seems very mature,
she knows who she wants,

2427
01:20:36,765 --> 01:20:38,667
and she'll be a good balance
in Paradise.

2428
01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:40,035
‐ I think Sydney will be good

2429
01:20:40,035 --> 01:20:41,637
because she does seem to really
want a relationship.

2430
01:20:41,637 --> 01:20:42,738
BOTH: Yes.
‐ So she's gonna‐‐

2431
01:20:42,738 --> 01:20:44,306
And those real relationships
come out of Paradise

2432
01:20:44,306 --> 01:20:46,508
has the highest success rate,
really, of the shows.

2433
01:20:46,508 --> 01:20:48,777
Okay, I'm finishing off with

2434
01:20:48,777 --> 01:20:51,580
the woman who could wear
a statement bikini.

2435
01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:52,648
Elyse.

2436
01:20:52,648 --> 01:20:53,649
Let's bring her back

2437
01:20:53,649 --> 01:20:55,417
and maybe have her leave again

2438
01:20:55,417 --> 01:20:56,785
in confused fashion when she

2439
01:20:56,785 --> 01:20:57,786
doesn't know how "Paradise"

2440
01:20:57,786 --> 01:20:58,921
works. I'm gonna take it.

2441
01:20:58,921 --> 01:21:03,025
All right, next up, we have
got our final predictions

2442
01:21:03,025 --> 01:21:04,660
because the fence jump
has happened,

2443
01:21:04,660 --> 01:21:05,961
fantasy suites have
almost happened,

2444
01:21:05,961 --> 01:21:07,396
maybe we'll get Hannah G.

2445
01:21:07,396 --> 01:21:10,733
Guys, how do we think this
season is going to end?

2446
01:21:10,733 --> 01:21:14,370
Will there be a proposal?
Rachel, give us a yes or no.

2447
01:21:14,370 --> 01:21:16,338
‐ No, there can't be from what
we've seen so far.

2448
01:21:16,338 --> 01:21:18,107
‐ Because he said he wanted it
to be Cassie.

2449
01:21:18,107 --> 01:21:19,341
‐ Because he said he wanted it
to be Cassie

2450
01:21:19,341 --> 01:21:20,976
and Cassie‐‐the one thing
she's clear about is

2451
01:21:20,976 --> 01:21:22,778
that she's not
ready for engagement.

2452
01:21:22,778 --> 01:21:24,113
‐ Ben.
‐ Uh, no.

2453
01:21:24,113 --> 01:21:26,115
There will be no engagement
at the end

2454
01:21:26,115 --> 01:21:27,316
or proposal even,

2455
01:21:27,316 --> 01:21:29,051
and I think what we're gonna
see is very similar

2456
01:21:29,051 --> 01:21:31,286
to Arie's season where
we're gonna see a lot of

2457
01:21:31,286 --> 01:21:34,656
behind the scenes outside
of really the frame of the show

2458
01:21:34,656 --> 01:21:37,192
filming of what Colton
does next.

2459
01:21:37,192 --> 01:21:38,460
‐ Mm.
‐ Juliet?

2460
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:40,863
‐ Hard no. There's no way
to come back from that.

2461
01:21:40,863 --> 01:21:42,264
He can't propose.

2462
01:21:42,264 --> 01:21:44,133
If he did, it would be
so hollow.

2463
01:21:44,133 --> 01:21:45,901
It would be kind of similar to
Desiree's season,

2464
01:21:45,901 --> 01:21:47,903
like you mentioned, but I don't
think he can pull it off.

2465
01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:49,772
‐ Well, and he can't even‐‐and
I know he's jumped over

2466
01:21:49,772 --> 01:21:51,840
the fence, but say like,
he does‐‐

2467
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,776
say he was going to fight
for Cassie,

2468
01:21:53,776 --> 01:21:55,344
say he goes and does that,
if he proposes to her,

2469
01:21:55,344 --> 01:21:57,246
like he can't.
She knows she's not ready.

2470
01:21:57,246 --> 01:21:59,248
So I agree with you guys.
I think no proposal.

2471
01:21:59,248 --> 01:22:01,817
The question is,
will we see more of Cassie?

2472
01:22:01,817 --> 01:22:03,085
He said he was going
to fight for her,

2473
01:22:03,085 --> 01:22:04,887
we saw him jump a fence,
I feel like we've got to see

2474
01:22:04,887 --> 01:22:07,089
how things continue from here
with Cassie.

2475
01:22:07,089 --> 01:22:08,924
‐ I think Cassie has to come
back in the finale.

2476
01:22:08,924 --> 01:22:10,559
You know, I don't even mean
like the live parts.

2477
01:22:10,559 --> 01:22:13,061
Like, I think she needs to be
in like the taped segments

2478
01:22:13,061 --> 01:22:14,797
or what not.
It's so unfinished.

2479
01:22:14,797 --> 01:22:16,131
We can't just end it like that.

2480
01:22:16,131 --> 01:22:17,800
‐ Right, we need closure.

2481
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,936
‐ On this one, do we believe
Chris when he says,

2482
01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:23,439
"it's gonna be the most
dramatic finale ever"?

2483
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,007
‐ 100%.
‐ Yeah, yeah.

2484
01:22:25,007 --> 01:22:27,009
‐ It was‐‐they did not lie
about this last episode.

2485
01:22:27,009 --> 01:22:30,012
The show‐‐this last episode
is iconic.

2486
01:22:30,012 --> 01:22:31,647
It will go down in history as
one of the best

2487
01:22:31,647 --> 01:22:33,849
and most incredible,
and also, if Cassie‐‐

2488
01:22:33,849 --> 01:22:36,685
here's my‐‐if Cassie really
wants to be the Bachelorette,

2489
01:22:36,685 --> 01:22:38,654
then we have to see her again.
‐ I think no though.

2490
01:22:38,654 --> 01:22:40,389
I don't think it can be more
dramatic than Arie

2491
01:22:40,389 --> 01:22:42,591
breaking up with Becca
in the two panel.

2492
01:22:42,591 --> 01:22:43,759
LAUREN: We got
a split screen there.

2493
01:22:43,759 --> 01:22:45,160
‐ Yeah.
‐ But now we have a fence jump.

2494
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,795
‐ That's true.
I'm sticking with no.

2495
01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:48,330
‐ Okay.

2496
01:22:48,330 --> 01:22:50,999
What we do know is that, again,
this has been the season

2497
01:22:50,999 --> 01:22:53,402
of a virgin
who's not ready maybe,

2498
01:22:53,402 --> 01:22:55,103
a lot of women
who aren't ready,

2499
01:22:55,103 --> 01:22:57,573
a lot of emotions, so we did
this fun little thing

2500
01:22:57,573 --> 01:22:59,875
where say that Colton
ends up in a relationship

2501
01:22:59,875 --> 01:23:02,244
we have all picked
a calendar date

2502
01:23:02,244 --> 01:23:04,580
where if they breakup,
this is when they will breakup.

2503
01:23:04,580 --> 01:23:07,449
Ben, I want to know
why you picked November 20th.

2504
01:23:07,449 --> 01:23:10,285
‐ The reason is
is because the next Bachelor

2505
01:23:10,285 --> 01:23:13,722
will be done filming and the
pressure of the next guys

2506
01:23:13,722 --> 01:23:15,791
coming along and I think
that changes the dynamic.

2507
01:23:15,791 --> 01:23:17,292
You no longer are the Bachelor.

2508
01:23:17,292 --> 01:23:19,461
You're a past Bachelor,
and I know for me,

2509
01:23:19,461 --> 01:23:20,863
that was a weird transition

2510
01:23:20,863 --> 01:23:22,197
from going
from the Bachelor to not,

2511
01:23:22,197 --> 01:23:24,399
and I think it's gonna be hard
the relationship for them.

2512
01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:26,301
‐ Juliet, you went
with July 27th.

2513
01:23:26,301 --> 01:23:27,836
That's pretty soon.
‐ Yeah.

2514
01:23:27,836 --> 01:23:30,105
I think mid‐"Paradise" so that
"Bachelor" is sort of

2515
01:23:30,105 --> 01:23:31,740
still the talking points

2516
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:33,809
and so there's some moment
to build on

2517
01:23:33,809 --> 01:23:35,911
and, you know, kind of

2518
01:23:35,911 --> 01:23:38,213
see the rest of the summer
and see if you can have fun.

2519
01:23:38,213 --> 01:23:40,382
‐ And Rachel, you said,

2520
01:23:40,382 --> 01:23:43,452
"She will definitely
break up with him

2521
01:23:43,452 --> 01:23:44,786
and it will happen
on May 18th."

2522
01:23:44,786 --> 01:23:45,854
‐ Forgot I said that.
‐ Tell me why.

2523
01:23:45,854 --> 01:23:47,089
Right before "Paradise."

2524
01:23:47,089 --> 01:23:48,457
Right before we start
finalizing people

2525
01:23:48,457 --> 01:23:50,559
for "Paradise" of next year
so you'll have gone through,

2526
01:23:50,559 --> 01:23:52,461
you'll have seen
a couple of seasons,

2527
01:23:52,461 --> 01:23:53,862
"The Bachelor," "Bachelorette."

2528
01:23:53,862 --> 01:23:55,330
‐ Rachel, I'm surprised,
but you're believing in

2529
01:23:55,330 --> 01:23:56,598
this relationship‐‐
RACHEL: Yeah, I'm sorry.

2530
01:23:56,598 --> 01:23:58,000
I did not mean‐‐
‐ No, that's great.

2531
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,302
‐ I just realized that.
I did not mean this way.

2532
01:24:00,302 --> 01:24:02,638
‐ Okay, let's finish up here

2533
01:24:02,638 --> 01:24:05,173
by doing something that I love
to do for the show.

2534
01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:06,708
It's an amazing journey.

2535
01:24:06,708 --> 01:24:08,377
One word to describe
this season.

2536
01:24:08,377 --> 01:24:09,511
Rachel, what's yours?

2537
01:24:09,511 --> 01:24:11,280
‐ Oh, my gosh.

2538
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,481
Come back to me.

2539
01:24:12,481 --> 01:24:13,549
Hold on, come back to me.
‐ Ben.

2540
01:24:13,549 --> 01:24:14,750
‐ I was not ready.
‐ One word to describe

2541
01:24:14,750 --> 01:24:16,518
Colton's season.
‐ The word that Colton

2542
01:24:16,518 --> 01:24:20,255
and the women liked to use
at every scenario

2543
01:24:20,255 --> 01:24:21,757
"amazing."
LAUREN: Amazing.

2544
01:24:21,757 --> 01:24:23,025
Juliet?

2545
01:24:23,025 --> 01:24:25,460
‐ Wow, and to quote Hannah B.,

2546
01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:27,029
you stole my words.

2547
01:24:27,029 --> 01:24:30,065
I would say my one word
for this is

2548
01:24:30,065 --> 01:24:31,800
nearly erotic.

2549
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,502
That's two words, I'm sorry.
‐ Oh, that's terrific.

2550
01:24:33,502 --> 01:24:35,270
‐ That works.
Sub‐erotic.

2551
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:37,072
Erotic‐adjacent.
Rachel, back to you.

2552
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:39,241
‐ I guess I would just say
unexpected.

2553
01:24:39,241 --> 01:24:40,976
LAUREN: Unexpected.
My word is virgin.

2554
01:24:40,976 --> 01:24:42,578
None of us were prepared,

2555
01:24:42,578 --> 01:24:45,047
and we might be having
our first time.

2556
01:24:45,047 --> 01:24:46,415
We had our first fence jump.

2557
01:24:46,415 --> 01:24:48,784
This has been
"Can I Steal You For A Second?"

2558
01:24:48,784 --> 01:24:50,285
I want to say thank you
to all you guys

2559
01:24:50,285 --> 01:24:51,920
and give a cheers
to Colton Underwood

2560
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,855
and "The Bachelor."
ALL: Cheers.

2561
01:24:53,855 --> 01:24:55,457
LAUREN: Cheers, everybody.
Cheers

2562
01:24:55,457 --> 01:24:59,861
to the most dramatic finale
ever over the fence.