>> dicky: From hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"!
Tonight, gillian anderson. Emanuel acho.
Music from ty dolla sign. And now, jimmy kimmel!
>> jimmy: Hi, everyone. Thank you.
I'm jimmy, the host. Thank you for joining us on
another weird day in america. Here's a question.
We sure donald trump isn't just stuck in a white house bathtub,
too embarrassed to call for help?
[ laughter ] the potus refused to go-tus.
He still won't concede to joe biden, and by all accounts he
has no plans to do so any time soon.
It's very strange. We're basically ignoring the
president of the united states like he's a crazy guy on a
subway platform. He's ranting and rave and we
just raise the volume on our airpods and hope he doesn't
shove us into an oncoming train. [ laughter ]
even with all this tension, trump has not lost his sense of
humor. For instance, this morning he
tweeted, "we will win." [ laughter ]
which is funny. We have a reality show host who
will not accept reality. How pleased with himself is
vladimir putin right now? That 2 million rubles or
whatever he put into interfering in the election in 2016?
What a payoff. Might be the greatest investment
of all time. It's like he hit the destroy
america lotto. Republicans are handling the
president with kid gloves, because those are the only
gloves that fit him. [ laughter ]
I have to say, I'm less disgusted with our
toddler-in-chief throwing his oatmeal than I am at the
republican congress going along with this.
The baby is right that oatmeal should go on the wall, he's
within his rights to throw it on the wall.
We need to let the process of oatmeal-flinging play out.
[ laughter ] only a handful of prominent
republicans have acknowledged biden's victory.
Secretary of state mike pompeo today -- I don't know what trump
has on this guy. He's going to have a hard time
unwedging that big head of his from inside trump's bottom.
>> is the state department currently preparing to engage
with the biden transition team, if not, at what point does a
delay hamper a smooth transition or pose a risk to national
security? >> there will be a smooth
transition to a second trump administration.
>> jimmy: Can you say that again without breathing so heavily
this time? Attorney general bill barr has
ordered the justice department to look into allegations of
voter fraud. To be clear, there have been no
credible allegations of fraud that would affect the outcome of
the election in any of the states.
None. This is happening at out of
purchase spite. Trump is like the guy who plays
20 plays of "achy breaky heart" on the juke house before he
leaves the diner. Ignore the biden transition
team, they won't even sign the paperwork to get it going.
There's a trump appointee who has to sign off, and so far,
she's refusing to do so. Her name is emily murphy.
That's emily. You can call her karen if you
like. [ laughter ]
[ applause ] I have to say, put emily back up
there for a second. I love when it we meet a new
character in the last season of a show, you know?
[ laughter ] this is just ridiculous.
I think I have a solution to make everyone happy.
All right. Here's the deal.
President trump, we're going to let you be president again.
We're going to let you stay for another term.
But you have to do it in yoga pants, okay?
All four years. Not under the clothes, not under
the suit. Any time you have a meeting, you
welcome the prime minister of tonga into the oval office, you
do it in lululemon yoga pants. If we ever catch you not wearing
them, you have to leave. Think about it, you have an hour
to respond. Boy would I love to be a fly in
trump's dipping sauce right now. What is going on in that white
house? Hi, dad?
It's jared. Ivanka's husband.
You put me in charge of peace in the middle east?
Anyway, the kids are wondering about where they're going to go
to school next semester. You think we'll be here or back
in new york? Then he gets hit with a can of
diet coke. Trump hasn't spoken in public
since Thursday. This was his official schedule
today. His official schedule was, no
schedule, no public events scheduled.
This is yesterday. No public events scheduled.
He did do one thing over the weekend, he took a two-day golf
trip. There is a big event this
weekend coming up but it's not clear whether or not trump will
attend. They're throwing him an "I'm not
fired" festival called the March for trump, to stop the steal.
And spread the virus, of course. They're using this whole recount
thing to raise money. Team trump has sent about 150
fund-raising emails this week asking for help with this effort
to invalidate the election. If you read the fine print it
says 60% of contributions will be sent to the campaign's
general election account to pay off the debt they have.
Basically, at this point, any money you give to trump goes
towards paying kimberly guilfoyle's dry bar bill.
[ laughter ] let's break down what they're --
trump owes $420 million to god knows who, we don't know.
62% of the money goes there. Another 9% goes to melania's
renegotiated prenuptial agreement.
7% to men's shapewear. 14% to djtj's allowance if they
do their chores. Anything that's left over, m
mcribs. [ laughter ]
trump launched his own political action committee, allegedly to
help raise money for republican candidates.
The only pac donald trump should be involved with right now is
packing up his [ bleep ] and moving it to mar-a-lago.
[ cheers and applause ] thank you.
Thank you for your support over the years.
>> guillermo: Thank you, yeah! >> jimmy: Meanwhile, while the
president has gone missing, many are asking for the first time
everywhere is mike pence? [ laughter ]
well, mike pence, he planned, he was supposed to go on vacation
tonight. To florida.
That's right. As the country's breaking
records for most new cases of covid in a single day, the head
of the task force was headed to a beach with mother and a
one-piece to enjoy a virgin pina colada, which is also his secret
service nickname. [ laughter ]
I don't know why but I have the idea of mike pence on vacation
in florida. I wonder if he could even get a
tan. He seems like -- he might be
like an untoastable slice of white bread.
After a lot of criticism, he canceled the trip.
His office said he has to stay in washington in case the
president needs to kick him or something.
So don't worry, mike, you have plenty of time off ahead.
Trump has been trying to make himself feel better during this
difficult time by firing people. Yesterday he fired the secretary
of defense. And we learned that he gave
chief scientists behind the government's reports on climate
change the ax on Friday. So climate problem solved, I
guess. [ laughter ]
you can't say he's not consistent.
If we don't test for covid, there's no covid.
If we don't report on climate change, the climate doesn't
change. Now hand me my unfiltered
cigarettes and stuff a roll of as business toes in my pants.
[ laughter ] trump has named the new acting
director of the u.S. Global change research program as
sharpie pen in a lab coat. So congratulations to him.
By the way, I don't know who did this.
But if you go to loser.Com, the website?
This is what pops up. [ laughter ]
trump's wikipedia page. [ cheers and applause ]
I don't know. That's got to be hillary, right?
[ laughter ] you know, there's been so much
excellent coverage of politics over the past week or so.
But I want to congratulate especially the gang over at
msnbc who unwittingly provided us with tonight's "award for
excellence in recording." >> how the trump administration
is handling the transition with the incoming biden team, or not
handling it we should say, to a certain extent.
This time it involves our intelligence community.
Kim what have you learned, sir? >> [ bleep ].
[ bleep ]. >> okay.
[ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: It was his day to pick
the kids up at school. In other troubling news, earlier
tonight on abc we broke in a new bachelorette.
It's weird. The bachelorette had a more
peaceful transition of power than the presidency.
Last week, clare left the show after one date with dale.
They got engaged. So tonight the bachelor-elect,
tayshia, took the reins. They added four new guys for
tayshia. One in particular, a guy named
spencer, ruffled some feathers. I'm not exactly sure why but the
other guys do not like him at all.
>> I see guys like you ary day. It's rough enough in my
particular area, when we come across guys like you, we call
you lunch meat, okay, because you like to talk a lot of
[ bleep ]. I know you're the new guy.
If I'm off base, you can let me know.
If I am on base, you don't want to [ bleep ] with me, we can go.
>> okay, noted. >> jimmy: Wow.
That is a lot of sexual energy there, isn't it?
[ laughter ] I bet those two wind up
together, I really do. Guillermo, 50 bucks, riley and
spencer action you want it? >> guillermo: Yeah, sure.
It's going to be spencer. [ laughter ]
>> jimmy: Chris harrison had a surprise sit-down tonight.
They brought dale and clare back.
And my favorite part of the interview is when we found out
dale didn't even have clare's phone number until after they
were engaged. That's true love.
I hope this works out for them, but -- it won't.
[ laughter ] and all of a sudden now chris
harrison has turned into a pushy mother-in-law.
>> what is next for you guys? Move in together, wedding?
What's up? >> I think, you know --
obviously -- >> babies.
>> really, like we've -- >> dale, you just skipped right
over that. >> jimmy: Yeah, yeah, he sure
did. Oh-oh.
Let's look at that reaction again.
>> babies. >> uh --
>> jimmy: Run, dale, run. I think the answer he was
looking for was "dancing with the stars," but you didn't give
it. The stars are still dancing, by
the way, even though covid cases are going up almost everywhere.
They're still doing the cha cha chat.
We've seen a spike here in california.
Our governor, gavin newsom, says the rise in cases is obviously
so sobering.
I would argue the opposite the, everyone I know is drinking more
than ever. [ laughter ]
[ applause ] they say up to 15% of these new
cases ar result of outdoor dining, which was supposed to be
safe. I guess it's not that safe.
Some states are allowing indoor dining, which is definitely not
safe. And some restaurants aren't
taking any precautions at all. >> if you want a safe, socially
distanced dining experience -- then take your ppe somewhere
else, snowflake! [ bleep ].
No masks, just fun. Unwashed karaoke microphone.
Dig into our wuhan hot wings. Have a heaping helping of
room-temperature oysters. [ bleep ] ruckers.
If germs were for real we'd be able to see them, because of
course it is. [ bleep ] ruckers.
No shirt no mask no problem. [ cheers and applause ]
>> jimmy: We've got a good show. Emanuel acho is here.
Music from kentucky dollar sign. We'll be right back with gillian
anderson! >> jimmy: Welcome back to the
show. Tonight, this is his new book.
It is called "uncomfortable conversations with a black man,"
emmanuel acho is here on his birthday.
He turns 30 today. Guillermo, quick, go bake a
cake. >> guillermo: Okay, I'll go in
the commercials. >> jimmy: Okay.
[ laughter ] your they take awhile to cook.
You can't just -- >> guillermo: Can we do
postmate? >> jimmy: Yeah, we can do
postmates. Then later, this is his album,
cleverly titled "featuring ty dolla sign."
ty dolla sign is with us. [ applause ]
tomorrow night, dr. Phil mcgraw and john king from cnn will be
with us, with music from maren morris.
So please join us for that. [ cheers and applause ]
our first guest is an emmy and golden globe-winning actor known
around the globe as fbi agent dana scully from "the x-files."
her latest redheaded role is that of british prime minister
margaret thatcher, in the new season of "the crown."
>> three, two, one. Thank you.
>> the way those men patronize me, lecture me.
Squires and grandees. >> upper-class bastards.
>> and our ideas, the solutions to the problems this country
faces, so unimaginative, cautious.
Wit. >> jimmy: The crown" premieres
Sunday on netflix. Please welcome gillian anderson.
Hi, gillian. >> hi.
>> jimmy: I'm already giving you the emmy for this.
It is unbelievable to see you playing margaret thatcher.
I mean, it's crazy. I mean, I know you.
I've seen you in many things. >> we go way back.
>> jimmy: All of a sudden you're margaret thatcher.
Have you called president-elect bide ton congratulate him yet?
Have you made that official -- >> not yet, not yet.
>> jimmy: How are people -- you know, obviously this is the only
story happening here in the united states.
Is it a huge story there in the uk too?
>> what? >> jimmy: The election.
>> the american election? >> jimmy: You may have answered
it, yeah. The american election.
Yeah. >> yeah, no.
People who are distancing in the streets just like they were in
the u.S. >> jimmy: Oh, wow, how about
that. [ applause ]
had you ever seen anything like that before?
>> no. Not in my entire 163 years.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: When donald trump was
elected, were you in london and were people dancing then?
>> no, I think they were being photoshoped in front of the
mall, weren't they? [ laughter ]
I didn't see them dancing. >> gillian -- your accent has
really -- you've really absorbed a lot of an english accent.
>> well, my original accent was english.
I mean, that was my very first accent was speaking like an
english child. I was an english child until I
moved to grand rapids, michigan. >> jimmy: Yeah, but we want you
to be like us. [ laughter ]
we want you to be one of ours. >> okay, jimmy.
>> jimmy: Boy that margaret thatcher.
You really -- I mean, that is crazy.
Are you good at imitations in general?
Is that something you do regularly?
>> no. >> jimmy: No?
>> no, no. I never try stuff.
Because I always fail. >> jimmy: Well, you didn't fail
here. >> you know, it took a lot of
research, a lot of practice. And a wig or two.
>> jimmy: Yeah. Your man friend, peter morgan,
is the creator of "the crown." I assume he wrote this part with
you in mind for it? >> no.
>> jimmy: He didn't? Really?
>> no. She existed in history prior
to -- >> jimmy: No, no, no.
[ laughter ] boy, wouldn't that be an x-file,
if somehow he had this planned from way back then.
>> no, no no. He didn't -- no, no.
I mean, obviously she was already going to be a part of
this particular season. And at some point he asked -- I
don't know whether he was looking at pictures of her and
kind of did a double-take? You know.
And went, oh! I think you could do this.
But we have a similar nose, we kind of do.
Similar nose. Similar hooded eyes.
>> jimmy: Yeah. >> anyway, so he asked if I
thought that I could. And I thought that I could.
>> jimmy: Did you know for sure --
>> sure. >> jimmy: Were you positive that
you could? I could see that causing a real
problem in your relationship. >> I was pretty certain.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: And then did you
guys -- did you like work on it at home?
Or did you surprise [ bleep ]? >> no, oh no.
I mean, there were other seasons where he had spoken to me about,
you know, scripts and scenes and run stuff by me over the years
and stuff. You know, I'm quite opinionated.
We've kind of got used to that. Then for some reason in this
season, from the very beginning, he wasn't talking to me about it
anymore. He didn't want my opinion.
>> jimmy: I see. >> about the season.
And then -- so, you know, we decided that, you know -- when I
was going to start filming, that he didn't get to ask me or make
comments about my performance either, if I wasn't going to be
able to talk to him about his scripts.
>> jimmy: Ah. >> but then we started
rehearsal, which rehearsal was more like a table read, more
than rehearsal. Kind of a table read, there was
a lot of script changes and stuff.
I hadn't really let her out of the bag yet.
>> jimmy: Yes? >> I hadn't exposed her to more
than the voice guide that I was working with.
It was the second day of rehearsal that we were doing it,
and I was quite shy. And -- you know, there were
other actors in the room, stuff like that.
They were performing, you know, up to par.
And then we took a break, like a lunch break, walking away.
And I was like, these aren't really -- this isn't really
rehearsal, it's like a table read, you guys are changing the
script all over the place, I don't feel comfortable to
necessarily, you know -- he's like, well, we're all wondering
where she is. When she's going to show up.
Well -- okay. She's coming.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: Boy.
>> yeah. I guess I'm a much shyer actor
than I realized. >> jimmy: He must have been so
relieved when you started and it sounded great.
I mean, it really must have been a huge weight off of his
shoulders. >> yeah, yes.
>> jimmy: I have a photograph here I want to ask you about.
You met the real queen. When did this happen?
[ laughter ] >> well, can you see -- do you
see that thing that is draped over the queen's shoulder?
>> jimmy: The black piece of fabric?
>> yeah, the piece of fabric. So that piece of fabric is
attached to the gentleman behind the queen.
It's around his neck. As she's exiting to go and
present the trophies to the polo players, like in harry potter,
this thing from his neck is going around like this.
And it wraps itself around her, her neck, as she's walking down
the stairs. I had this image of it
decapitating her, or you know, yanking her backwards.
But you notice that I don't actually do anything.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: No, no.
>> like reach out and try and save her life.
>> jimmy: You didn't even unfold your hands, yeah.
>> no. Useless in a crisis.
>> jimmy: That is a great photo. Gillian, we're going to take a
break. More with gillian anderson.
It's the middle of the night for her.
We'll be right back. >>> if anyone tries to describe
an encounter with them, they sound like a lunatic.
>> I see no reason anyone would think you crazy if you describe
this meeting of ours. >> you're feeling very sleepy.
Very relaxed. >> alex trebek?
The game show host? >> mulder didn't say that it was
alex trebek. It was just someone that looks
incredibly like him. [ cheers and applause ]
>> jimmy: That is a great clip from a great show, "the
x-files." alex trebek.
He only had a moment there but he was really good.
>> he was really good. Academy award good.
>> jimmy: What do you remember about that particular episode?
You got charles nelson riley, jesse "the body" ventura, you
and david. I mean, that's something else.
>> I remember doing scenes with charles nelson riley.
I remember the scenes in the office.
>> jimmy: Yeah. >> that's the own place I was,
in the office, right? >> jimmy: Yeah, you were in the
office a lot. Do you remember the whole --
have you ever sat down and rewatched "the x-files," the
series itself? >> not exactly.
I mean, I've watched some episodes with a couple of my
kids over the years. >> jimmy: It's kind of cool.
There's some actors who are now famous that weren't at the time,
who are on the show. >> yeah.
>> jimmy: Jack black was on the show.
>> bryan cranston. >> jimmy: Bryan cranston had a
great episode. >> bryan cranston was in an
episode where he had to drive, if he stopped driving his brain
would explode. [ laughter ]
>> jimmy: Vince gilligan, who went on to create "breaking
bad," and I assume -- >> wrote that episode.
>> jimmy: How they got to know each other, maybe.
A lot of television history. I thought it would be fun.
"the x-files" was a crazy show. There's a lot of crazy plot
lines. I thought it might be fun to go
through some of them. You tell me if these are real
plot lines from "the x-files" or some we made up.
Yes? >> oh, boy.
>> jimmy: It's the middle of the night, what the hell.
>> I'll try. Go on, hit me.
Hit me, jimmy. >> jimmy: Gillian, genetic
mutant haunts the sewer and hides in a toilet.
>> oh, definitely, we did that. >> jimmy: Real, right, very
good. [ laughter ]
scully is attacked by a baby with adult-like strength.
>> no. >> jimmy: No, that did not
happen, you are correct. Mulder and scully investigate
the claims of a woman whose parrot has been bothed by the
ghost of adolf hitler. >> no.
>> jimmy: That did not happen, you are correct.
[ applause ] >> I'm good.
>> jimmy: A teenager -- you are good.
A teenager who controls insects realizes he's half insect, just
like his mom. >> no.
>> jimmy: Yeah, that did happen, that was an episode.
>> no! >> jimmy: Yes.
>> is it? What was it called?
>> jimmy: It was called "lord of the flies."
aaron paul was in that episode. >> no, he was not.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: I don't want to fight
with you. But I'm just telling you what I
have on the card. >> aaron paul was on "the
x-files"? >> jimmy: Yeah.
[ laughter ] you should see it sometime, it
was a great show. [ laughter and applause ]
>> did I do my scenes with him? >> jimmy: What's that?
>> did I do any scenes with him? >> jimmy: I don't think so but I
haven't seen it for a longtime, I don't have the whole thing.
All right. Mulder and scully think they've
traveled back in time only to find out they woke up drunk in
an amish community. >> yes.
>> jimmy: No. [ laughter ]
>> but we did go to amish land. >> jimmy: Yes.
Mulder and scully investigate a little murder, but mistakenly
end up at four seasons total landscaping.
[ laughter ] >> it sounds so familiar to me.
>> jimmy: Thank you very much for being with us.
Gillian anderson. [ cheers and applause ]
she is on season 4 of "the crown."
it premieres Sunday on netflix. Thanks again.
We'll be back with emmanuel acho.
>> can I sleep now? Can I go to bed?
>> jimmy: You can definitely go to bed.
We'll send you a prize, all right?
Thanks, gillian, good night. [ cheers and applause ]
>> jimmy: Welcome back. Emmanuel acho and music from
ty dolla sign are on the way. But first, it's Tuesday night,
and that means it's time for me to show you some of the most
fascinating items I store in my car.
It's time for "trunk junk." here we go.
♪ so anyway, this --
[ heavy breathing ] >> jimmy: Guillermo what are you
doing? >> guillermo: I'm about to work
out. >> jimmy: Right now?
I'm trying to do "trunk junk." >> guillermo: I know and god
bless you for doing that, but I can't wait.
Now that I have the new samsung galaxy watch3, I can take
control of my health anywhere, right from my wrist.
Look! Prepare, jimmy.
It's going to be worth it, jimmy.
>> jimmy: Okay. >> wow.
This is a good ecg reading. Now it is time to get jack.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: What?
It's time to get what? >> guillermo: Jack.
>> jimmy: Jacked? >> yeah, yeah.
>> jimmy: All right. Jack.
♪ >> jimmy: Wow.
What a physical specimen. That was backwards.
>> guillermo: I'm pumped now! >> jimmy: What does your galaxy
watch3 say now? >> guillermo: It say, good job,
it's time to cool down. >> jimmy: Oh.
>> jimmy: Wow, guillermo. It would appear that not only
does the galaxy watch3 look good, it has cutting-edge health
and wellness features to help you meet your goals.
You cooled down yet? >> guillermo: Not yet.
I'll let you know. >> jimmy: Okay, thank you.
>> dicky: The samsung galaxy watch3.
Manage your life and style. To learn more about the gaction
watch3, visit samsung.Com. [ cheers and applause ]
♪ >> jimmy: Welcome back.
Music from ty dolla sign is on the way.
Our next guest is having a pretty good day.
He turned 30 years old and his first book was published by
no less than oprah. He is the author of this book
"uncomfortable conversations with a black man."
please welcome emmanuel acho. [ cheers and applause ]
♪ >> jimmy: I mean, it's your
birthday for god's sake. >> oh, man.
>> jimmy: Happy birthday. >> thank you, my friend, thank
you. >> jimmy: 30th birthday.
>> 30. Quite the way to celebrate it,
you know? >> jimmy: Yeah.
Do you have any other plans or is this it?
>> this is -- how can you have plans that top this?
Jimmy kimmel is asking me on his show, do you have any other
plans? This is my plan.
>> jimmy: I don't know, you can go home and try to blow out
candles through a mask. You know, something fun like
that. Boy, what a story this is.
You started making these videos. These great videos.
People start passing them around.
And somehow the video makes its way to oprah winfrey.
>> yeah. >> jimmy: And then she contacts
you? Is that correct?
>> yeah. True story.
I get a call from oprah's right-hand woman.
And she's like, hey, oprah wants to talk to you, are you free
today? I'm like, am I free?
For oprah? Of course I'm free!
[ laughter ] so we get on this facetime call.
She's like, okay it has to be facetime, I just need 45
minutes. I said, of my time?
Duh. Oprah asked me one question.
The question she asks all her guests.
Emanuel, I love what you do, but tell me this, what is your
intention? I said simply, oprah, I want to
change the world, and I want to be a bridge for racial
reconciliation, and I think I can.
And she said, I love that. And I said, yeah, I'm currently
trying to figure out what to do. I'm trying to write a book.
And she said, oh, books? I love books.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: She does love books,
she's in a club with them. >> exactly, she does have her
own club, book club. >> jimmy: Yeah.
[ laughter ] and so after that we partnered
immediately. Of all the teammates I've had
playing professional sports, she's definitely up there as one
of the greatest teammates. >> jimmy: I would hope she's at
the top. [ cheers and applause ]
I mean, come on now. Who would even rival her as far
as your teammates go? >> honestly, when you play on
teams with large men, you're always mindful of who you
offend. In the event, yeah, she's the
best teammate I've ever had. There might be some 6'4"
defensive tackle that calls me when I leave, what did you say,
acho? >> jimmy: I think even he would
understand when it comes to oprah.
You get the call from oprah. At any point did you think in
might be a prank? >> so get this.
Before oprah ever called me, I got another from another no
caller I.D. Number, and it's matthew mcconaughey.
I pick it up, Saturday morning, eating my cheerios.
I pick it up. "acho, mcconaughey here."
stop playing with me, teddy! "no, mcconaughey, matthew
mcconaughey, I want to have a conversation with you."
he'd seen my first episode. Six days later he called me, I
want to have a conversation. I said, mcconaughey, I'm doing
it in four days, that would be cool.
He said, "let's do it tomorrow." mcconaughey wants to do it
tomorrow, we do it tomorrow. That's how episode 2 came to
pass. Mcconaughey calls me before
oprah called me. Oprah called me from a no caller
I.D. Number. Roger goodell calls me from the
no caller I.D. Number. What is it?
I've learned to pick them up, though.
>> jimmy: I'm going to get your number and call you with
various, "bill gates on the line."
>> please don't, please don't. >> jimmy: Okay, I won't.
Now you wind up partnering with oprah.
She liked your intention. Thank god.
Imagine if you told her your intention, I want to change the
world, racial rec sister ation? She's like, nah, had enough of
that. Did you gush or play it cool
with oprah? >> I played it cool because it
was cool. For me this has never been about
me. I do my first episode, 25
million views in three days. That was not supposed to happen.
>> jimmy: You would expecting just a little bit?
>> I'm speaking from my heart. I shot this with my best friend,
an olympic gold medalist, a wedding videographer in an
I'll-white room. I'm not expecting to go viral,
I'm just expecting to emote other people.
Next thing you know, 25 million views.
When oprah calls me, I was in the moment.
It wasn't time to be starstruck. It wasn't time to think about
myself. I was like, okay, let's keep
going, what can we do? >> jimmy: Happening fast.
>> everything's happening fast, and now I'm here.
[ cheers and applause ] I'm still in the moment.
>> jimmy: Instead of stuck at fox sports with my cousin sal
all day. [ laughter ]
>> I love cousin sal. >> jimmy: Your family came to
america from nigeria. >> right.
>> jimmy: You grew up in texas. >> yeah.
>> jimmy: In a nigerian-american family.
Did you keep the nigerian traditions as a kid?
Like eat the foods and all that sort of thing?
>> jimmy, it's impossible not to keep nigerian traditions.
In a nigerian household, you must be a doctor.
You must be a lawyer. You must be an engineer.
Right? Like playing football is not --
>> jimmy: Not on the list? >> not on the checklist of
things to, do right? You get a doctorate degree,
okay, what's next? >> jimmy: Really, wow.
>> nigeriaen household, gas super -- I went to a
predominantly white private school.
I was supposed to be a national merit scholar.
6'2", 240, okay, I'll play football.
The beautiful part of nigerian culture is I had to learn white
culture because I was immersed in white cull.
Then immersed in black culture. There's a color issue but
there's a culture issue, let's address all of them.
>> jimmy: Isn't that interesting that you learned about black
culture as an adult playing football.
Is football -- in the world of football, are people closer --
of various races closer together?
Or are they -- is it the same? >> it's a really good question.
Let me take you back. 2014.
I'm playing for the philadelphia eagles.
I walk into the training table at 1 novacare ra way where the
facility is. 53 players on the team.
All the white players are sitting together.
All the black players are sitting together, minus one
player. One black mixed offensive
lineman is sitting with the white players.
There was one white defensive back sitting with the black
players. I stopped and I said, it is
2014. Segregation has been outlawed
for 60 years. But we've all unintentionally
but subconsciously segregated you're own ways.
To really get to the root of this issue, the reason as a
football team you can look beyond your differences --
religion, racial, et cetera -- is because you're all fighting a
common enemy, the opponent. Whoever your playing that
Sunday, that Saturday if you're in college.
Whereas in life, in america, we haven't all yet chosen to fight
that common enemy. Right?
Systemic injustice, oppression, racial discrimination.
We haven't yet realized, it's us versus oppression.
It's not black versus white. It's not white versus black.
It's us versus oppression and discrimination.
>> jimmy: The title of your book is "uncomfortable conversations
with a black man." it's good, you say, to have
uncomfortable conversation? I'm happy to hear that, because
all of my conversations are uncomfortable.
>> are they? [ laughter ]
honestly, I'm pretty comfortable, this is the most
comfortable conversation I've had in about four months.
[ laughter ] >> jimmy: Okay, good, good.
>> it is the title because I say this.
Everything in life that is worth something is birthed through
discomfort. You think about labor pains and
what a woman goes through to birth a beautiful child.
Might be our next hero, might be our next pulitzer prize winner,
whatever the case might be. Football where I come from, you
go through grueling train is camps.
That's uncomfortable but you try to win the super bowl.
If we want to accomplish anything in life, we've got to
get uncomfortable. I'll say this, it's only
uncomfortable until you do it. I moved to los angeles from
austin, texas. Waking up at 5:00 a.M. Was
uncomfortable at first, but you start to do it and it's not as
uncomfortable. These conversations are only
uncomfortable until you continue to have them.
Then all of a sudden they're second nature.
[ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: You've got a lot of
well-meaning people, a lot of well-meaning white people
specifically, who come to you, asking you -- because I think
people are confused. You know, I think there's a
perception that the proper way to say is african-american.
Don't call somebody black. Then somebody says, well, no,
you're not including a lot of different people if you say
african-american, and black is the preferred term.
So you've got a bunch of confused white people and you're
here to help us. >> yes.
[ laughter ] what I say this is.
I'll put it in story form. After oprah and I had been
communicating I sent her an email, do you want me to call
you oprah, o, your majesty? What do you want me to call you?
And she said, emanuel, oprah is fine.
Because if you don't know what to call somebody, you can't say
you're really friends. When people say, emanuel ak-ko?
No, auch-cho. If you can't pronounce my name,
we're not really friends. "black" is safer than
"african-american" because black is an adjective describing skin
color, like "white" is an adjective describing skin color.
"people" is a noun, "black" is describing that group of people.
That is safer. But in american, saying "black"
has become awkward. Like -- you black?
You wait for the backlash. I just think that we all have to
get more comfortable with one another.
I'll end by saying this. Proximity, it breeds care.
Distance, it breeds fear. And the problem is, people that
don't look like each other, don't sound like each other,
they're not close enough with each other.
>> jimmy: Yeah. [ cheers and applause ]
because of covid, we can't get any closer.
But I'll tell you, if it wasn't for this virus --
>> before covid. >> jimmy: I'd be in your lap
right now. This is the book, "uncomfortable
conversations with a black man." it is out now.
Emmanuel acho, everybody. [ cheers and applause ]
thank you very much, emanuel. Happy birthday.
We'll be back with ty dolla sign!
>> jimmy: Thanks to gillian and emmanuel.
Apologies to matt damon. "nightline" is next but first,
this is his album, "featuring ty dolla sign" with the song,
"nothing like your exes." ty dolla sign!
♪ jimmy kimmel we back ♪ I'm nothin' like
your exes nothin' like your exes
he ain't tell you that ♪ ♪ you sexy lock it down
if you let me I'm nothin' like
your exes ooh yeah ♪ ♪ nothin' like your exes
nothin' like your exes see that you pull up alone
all in the club ♪ ♪ with no panties on
you ain't gotta check your phone
he don't know what ♪ ♪ he got at home
we both know that he a clown
tell by how you walkin' ♪ ♪ he don't you down
don't you hear my talkin' baby
love me now ♪ ♪ I can put you
in dream house star island star island ooh yeah ♪
♪ now you say he ain't your boyfriend
you just vibin' I can put you in an ap ♪
dip you in the cc flowers on your necklace ♪
♪ ooh yeah in waikiki girl I ain't nothin'
nothin' like your exes nothin' like your exes ♪
♪ he ain't tell you that you sexy
lock it down if you let me I'm nothin' like your exes ♪
♪ ooh yeah nothin' like your exes
tell 'em you ain't ♪
♪ get the message say you in the hills
and it ain't no reception funny how you ♪
♪ got him stressin' ig post got the little boy
pressure ♪ ♪ usually I don't say these
♪ but tonight I'm a hero hit it 'til you dozin' off
got you wakin' up in the big dream house ♪
♪ star island now you say he ain't
your boyfriend you just vibin' ♪
♪ I can put you in an ap keep you in the cc
flowers on your necklace in waikiki ♪
♪ girl I ain't nothin' nothin' like your exes
he ain't tell you ♪
♪ that you sexy lock it down if you let me
I'm nothin' like your exes ooh yeah ♪
♪ nothin' like your exes nothin' like your exes
nothin' like your nothin' like your exes ♪
♪ ooh-oh he ain't tell you
that you sexy lock it down ♪
♪ lock it down nothin' like your
nothin' like your exes he ain't tell you ♪
♪ that you sexy ♪ nothing like your exes ♪