1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 VICKI: This time on Fifth Gear... 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,960 Come on, come on, come on, come on. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,720 ..we head for the hills in a pair of hardcore off-roaders, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,040 the brand-new INEOS Grenadier 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:14,160 and Land Rover's New Defender. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,280 I doubt that you would get any sheep slung in the back there. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,360 JASON: I see if Porsche's fastest-ever road car... 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,480 (CHUCKLES) ..can keep pace with its out-and-out racer. 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,480 Oh, it's just wicked! 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,360 RORY: And we enlist a few friends to help us test 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,280 the all-new seven-seat Dacia Jogger. 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Can I just say it's a bit noisy in the back? 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,440 It's like a horrible reverb-y rumble. 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,240 But enough about your voice. (LAUGHS)Yeah, yeah. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Right, then. Let's kick off with an important question. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,720 So, the all-time best four-by-four? 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,640 Ooh, I would say Jeep and Land Cruiser. 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Yeah.Defender, obviously.Yep. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,360 New Defender, although it's a bit kind of overly refined, I think. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,680 It's a shame they didn't keep making the old ones. 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,680 Well, they would've done, actually, because Sir Jim Ratcliffe, 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,800 if he'd got his way, he wanted to keep building them, didn't he? 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Did they not try to buy all the tooling, and Land Rover said no? 24 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,520 Yeah, exactly.Right? And then he went to build his own, 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,440 like you do, and that, my friends, gave birth to the INEOS Grenadier. 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,360 It certainly looks like the old Defender. 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Emperor's new clothes, though, maybe? 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,160 So, we've got the latest Land Rover Defender. 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,200 And to go up against it, we've got the new INEOS Grenadier. 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,880 But if we're gonna find out which is the best four-by-four by far, 31 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:51,880 we're gonna need the services of Fifth Gear's off-roading maestro. 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,080 We need someone agricultural. 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,720 We need Jimmy de Ville! 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Not only is Jimmy the proud owner 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,920 of an original Land Rover Defender... 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Ooh.That was nice, that was good. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,680 ..but his engineering nerdery and general off-roading expertise 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,800 is exactly what's required to assess these two machines. 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Eh-up! How we doing, all right? Good. Right, come on. 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,440 Let's get going. You get in the back.Jimmy can take the backseat for now, 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,880 because first, we'll be testing road manners. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,520 These cars might be genuine mud pluggers, 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,360 but they'll still spend most of their lives on the tarmac, 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,840 so it's important they're refined and have enough get up and go. 45 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,000 Welcome to the Defender. 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,160 This one is the Ingenium X petrol turbo. 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,400 Looks nice, though, doesn't it? Mm-hm. Oh, yeah. 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,640 So, any electrical assist? Oh, thank you for asking, Jimmy. 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Yes, there's MHEV! Mild... 50 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:54,040 (LAUGHS) Mild hybrid electric vehicle. 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,080 So, there is a bit of electrical oomph, 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 but it can't run on electric alone. 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Nevertheless, the 48-volt battery and three-litre, six-cylinder engine 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,560 combine to produce 400 horsepower, 55 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,680 enough to propel this 2.4-tonne monster 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,440 to 60 in just 5.8 seconds. 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Ooh! 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 It's pretty pokey.Where does this sit in the price range? 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Ah.Please tell me not six figures. 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,600 You are correct, Jimmy, £99,600. 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,480 That includes £9,000 worth of optional extras. 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,640 That's Range Rover territory, though.Times have changed, 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,240 and I doubt that you'd get any sheep slung in the back there. 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Unless you can baa, Jimmy. (MIMICS SHEEP BLEATING) 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Ay! The steering column, it's electrically adjustable 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 and the seat is fully lovely and electrically adjustable. 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 I'm sitting here with all of the mod cons. 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,920 It's actually a really lovely thing, isn't it? 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,840 It is. It is a really nice place to be. 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Despite being hefty, the Defender rides impeccably 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,360 on these bouncy British B roads, thanks to roll control 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,360 and electronic air suspension. 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,440 Velvety ride.Yes, just the way it goes over the bumps, 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,360 there's none of this kind of wobbling around 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,320 which you used to get on old Defenders. Doesn't wallow, does it? 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:22,080 The steering's nice, accurate. I might even describe this as fun. 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,160 Can I confess something? Confessions, ahoy. 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,520 I wanted not to like this. And I do! 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,160 Yes!See, I'm lusting after it, if I'm really honest. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,840 Oh, lusting?Lusting?Whoo! I really like it. 81 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,760 On to the Grenadier, which, well, resembles an old-school Defender. 82 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:40,560 The grille has been given a makeover, 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,440 and there's lots of purposeful-looking hooks and mouldings, 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,880 but from 50 yards, huh, it's pure Land Rover. 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,720 It's when you hop inside that the differences jump out. 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,400 What? Where's my dash? 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,720 That, there.There's just a whole load of light indicators. 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Yeah.Once I'd got over that, we hit the road. 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,920 Ahead of us is a BMW three-litre diesel engine, 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,200 turbo charged, giving 248 horsepower. 91 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:13,880 But if you don't like the sound of that, there is a three-litre petrol.OK. 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,840 But while the power plant is bang up-to-date, 93 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,120 it's still 150 horsepower down on the Defender, 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,480 and the Grenadier weighs 300kg more. 95 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:29,640 Nought to 60 happens in just under ten seconds.Ooh, dear. 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,480 (ENGINE REVS) 97 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,280 That wasn't mind-blowing, was it? No. 98 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,400 But straight-line performance was never 99 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,680 on INEOS's wish list for the Grenadier. 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Their aim was to recreate that no-nonsense, stripped-back 101 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,040 off-road workhorse that made the original Defender such a hit. 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,920 But is the price tag equally bare-boned? 103 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,600 So, it costs £76,000, 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,280 plus three grand of options on this particular model. 105 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,640 So, this is nearly £80,000? 106 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Mm. I mean, it is a lot of money. Driving position good? 107 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Comfortable, and, yeah, I'm OK. But I'm not luxuriating in comfort. 108 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,280 No.I am luxuriating in this. 109 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,240 I know.This -It's very aircraft-y, isn't it? 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,480 That's amazing!Yeah. 111 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,640 This is, for me, a visual triumph. 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,640 What are a few highlights up there? 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,200 A lot of auxiliary switches, we can have spotlights, all sorts of extra power. 114 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:29,200 We've also got differential locks, 115 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:31,840 there's a lot of manual override, which I like, 116 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,000 because my big concern with the Defender is, 117 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,920 computer says no, where I feel here, 118 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,360 we're gonna have that kind of farmer-ish control. 119 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,840 We can do what we want. And all these buttons here, 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,080 you can use them with gloves on. 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,400 So it does strike me that the primary use of this 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,080 is proper off-road, isn't it? 123 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,320 More so...More so. ..overtly than the Land Rover. 124 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,160 But let's keep it real. 125 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,640 The Grenadier will spend most of its life on tarmac. 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Has it got the right stuff? 127 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,480 So, in keeping with its no-frills approach, 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,280 there is no air suspension. 129 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,200 It's just on traditional coil springs. 130 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:10,960 And I think that it rides exactly as I would expect it to be. 131 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,120 While it's quite comfortable and nothing bangs or crashes, 132 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,040 it doesn't ride as smoothly as the Land Rover, 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,560 and the steering also needs a mention. 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,680 When I turn...Uh-huh? ..the car will eventually turn. 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,520 INEOS has adopted a steering design 136 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,600 that avoids kickback through the wheel when off-road, 137 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,880 but on tarmac, the car tends to wander. 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,600 You are constantly adjusting. Which, I can imagine, 139 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,280 becomes a little bit tiresome on a motorway. 140 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Our road drives are complete, 141 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,960 and as far as this test goes, there's one clear winner. 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,920 So, the bottom line, then, the Land Rover has got 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,920 the best refinement and on-road manners. 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Oh, and get up and go.Yeah. By a country acre or two. 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Join us later when our off-road challenge 146 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,040 shifts from B-road cruising to off-road grafting. 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Go on, then!Oh, well, there we go. 148 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Ooh, you dancer.It's liking it. (VICKI LAUGHS) 149 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,840 RORY: Plus, Porsche have created their most extreme road car yet. 150 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,680 This thing is just absolutely amazing. 151 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Jason sees if it can hold its own against their full-fat GT3 race car. 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Oh, it's just wicked! What a car! 153 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,320 What do you think is the most focussed road car 154 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,240 that Porsche do right now? GT3? 155 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Mm. I mean, it used to be, but now there's the GT3 RS. 156 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,240 Yeah.Inspired by the sensational GT3 Cup race car. 157 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Yep.Yeah, do you know what, though? 158 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,920 The road car performance, it's so good now, 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 it must be getting quite close to the race cars, surely. 160 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Well, I imagine in a head-to-head, I think it'd be astonishingly close. 161 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Er, hello, Porsche. Hi, we'd like to borrow some cars, please. 162 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,720 And the lovely people at Stuttgart 163 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,560 sent this shiny new white GT3 RS road car. 164 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,160 (ENGINE ROARING) Listen to that! 165 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,440 And while they were at it, they threw in 166 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,920 an equally white GT3 Cup race car. 167 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,720 Oh, it's just wicked. What a car! 168 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,720 (ENGINE ROARING) 169 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Both cars look the same, and slung out back, 170 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,320 their four-litre engines produce very similar numbers. 171 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,960 But the race car, well, it must be quicker, right? 172 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Well, there's only one way to find out. 173 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 We'll start with the GT3 Cup. 174 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Right! This is a full-blown race car, 175 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,320 hence why I've got helmet, racer, you know, roll cage in here. 176 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Don't wanna be really bashing me noggin on that! 177 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,880 The first thing you notice 178 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,040 is just how sharp and visceral this thing is! 179 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,800 With over 70 years of motorsport pedigree, 180 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Porsche know a thing or two about building racing cars. 181 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,360 The body is made of carbon fibre and the interior 182 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,920 is full-on race car, stripped back to basics. 183 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,640 Everything which doesn't make this thing go faster, 184 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,800 i.e. seats, carpets, sound-deadening material, 185 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,040 basically everything is thrown in the bin. 186 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,000 And ultimately, that means they've managed to shave off 187 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,480 200kg of weight, compared to the RS. 188 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:46,400 It's got tons of rear grip. 189 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,480 Oh, it's just wicked. What a car! 190 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,360 (ENGINE ROARING) 191 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,280 So, how fast will the GT3 Cup be around the circuit? 192 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Well, let's just see, shall we? 193 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,360 (ENGINE ROARING) 194 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:24,560 If you're wondering why I'm not my usual chatty self... 195 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,960 (LAUGHS) ..well, at these speeds, 196 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,920 one slip, and the car would spit me off in a heartbeat. 197 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,480 I've driven thousands of laps around this circuit, 198 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:43,200 but I've never had to focus so hard on hitting my braking points. 199 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Right! 200 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,440 The GT3 Cup clocks in at one minute, 8.2 seconds. 201 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,200 That's the quickest time that any Fifth Gear car 202 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,760 has posted around the Anglesey Circuit. Wow. 203 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,240 It's something else. What a lovely race car. 204 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,080 So, how close to that incredible time 205 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,480 can the roadgoing GT3 RS get? 206 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:18,960 (ENGINE ROARING) 207 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,960 That is rapid. 208 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Porsche reckon that this car is the nearest thing 209 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,920 you're gonna get to a road-legal race car. 210 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Hundred and forty mile an hour here. Christ Almighty! 211 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,120 This thing is just absolutely amazing. 212 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,200 So impressive. 213 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,720 I mean, it's just so beautifully neutral. 214 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,440 And do you know what? I've had lots of Porsches, 215 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,120 and the thing which... 216 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,440 ..is so amazing about all of 'em is the steering. 217 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,440 And that beautifully balanced steering 218 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,440 is complemented by the aerodynamics and downforce. 219 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,640 That massive rear wing is active. 220 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,440 On the straights, it flattens to create less drag, 221 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,440 but when you lift off, it dips to improve downforce and grip. 222 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,960 The whole aero package, including the rear wing, 223 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,920 produces a monstrous 860kg of downforce. 224 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,800 (ENGINE ROARING) 225 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,720 That's like popping a Kia Picanto on the roof. 226 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,440 More than three quarters of a tonne. 227 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,520 Quite breathtaking. 228 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,200 I've fallen in love with the car. 229 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,160 (CHUCKLES) I mean, I'm having just the most glorious fun. 230 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 All that fun doesn't come cheap, though. 231 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,800 The base price is £192,600. 232 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,840 And this model we're testing will set you back a cool 235 grand. 233 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,360 That's more than the GT3 Cup. 234 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,000 But can the road car match the race car's pace? 235 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Well, there's only one way to find out, and that's time for a hot lap. 236 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,240 Right. Here we go. 237 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,560 And...start the watch. 238 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,960 At the first checkpoint, the race car has a lead of about a second. 239 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,640 (ENGINE ROARING) 240 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Get in, JP. By the second checkpoint, 241 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,680 the road car, it's starting to lag behind. 242 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Tidy, tidy. 243 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,000 (ENGINE ROARING) 244 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,280 The roadgoing GT3 RS sets a time of one minute, 12.64 seconds, 245 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,040 still making it one of the fastest road cars 246 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,840 to ever take a lap at Anglesey. 247 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,320 The race car's lighter weight and track-focussed suspension 248 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,560 meant it was 4.4 seconds ahead. 249 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,280 But frankly, for a road car to get even that close, 250 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,000 well, it's just sensational. 251 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,960 VICKI: Now it's time to hit the test track 252 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,080 and get a quick first look and drive of a new car. 253 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,040 It's the Fifth Gear team test! 254 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Today, the team tested the Dacia Jogger. 255 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,320 Dacia has proved popular with us Brits. 256 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,080 The Romanian brand has sold more than 250,000 cars 257 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,560 since it launched in the UK a decade ago. 258 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,240 The Jogger's combination of rugged SUV styling, 259 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,200 MPB seven-seat versatility, 260 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,880 and a bargain price tag 261 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,120 sees it stand in a class all of its own. 262 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,040 What do we think of this thing, then? 263 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,240 I love the two-tone, the browns against the green. I like that. 264 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,280 Really nice kind of copper effect, isn't it? 265 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Yeah.Yeah, that is tasty, isn't it? 266 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,120 It's actually... It looks nice, eh? 267 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,040 I think it's really good-looking car, 268 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,720 especially in this colour, 269 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,360 with the copper accents, the black wheels. 270 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 They're a bit on the small side, but it all hangs together quite nicely. 271 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Let's have a look in the boot. 272 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Not gonna be much room, is there? I don't think.No. 273 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Hundred and sixty litres in there with seven seats. 274 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,280 It's about the size of a city - Hundred - 275 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Yeah, about the size of a city car, which is not ideal 276 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,480 when you've got seven people, plus maybe football gear, 277 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,520 schoolbags, all sorts. 278 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Take out the third row of seats, 279 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:47,200 and the Dacia's boot space increases to a far more acceptable 565 litres. 280 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,720 But this car's big selling point is the number of people it can carry. 281 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,640 Well, cos there's only three of us, and it's a seven-seater, 282 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,880 I've actually organised some friends for us. 283 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 (GASPS) Lovely!So, allow me to introduce you, Jason, 284 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,480 to your new bestie. 285 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,800 What's his name?Tyrone.Tyrone? 286 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,160 Tyrone. Yes. And, erm... 287 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,400 ..Vicki, this is, erm, er, Heather. 288 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 No, it's a bloke.Heather with a hairy chest?(LAUGHTER) 289 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,360 Sadly, I only have three inflatable friends. 290 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,480 But even with just the six of us, 291 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,120 we have to make use of all three rows of seats... 292 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Go on, Tyrone, in you get. 293 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,440 ..which Dacia claim can accommodate a six-foot-tall adult. 294 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,480 Get your seatbelt on, then. Belt. Where is my belt? 295 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,880 Is it not down there? I think it's above your head. 296 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,440 That's Jason's belt. No, he and Tyrone are belted up. 297 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,880 There's only two seats. You're buckled up already? 298 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Is that right?(GASPS) Oh, that feels wrong. 299 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:43,120 Wow.That's the seatbelt for the middle? 300 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Yeah.Oh.In the boot? Unbelievable, isn't it? 301 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Ooh, that's not great, is it? 302 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,560 I struggled with the seatbelt for the first time in my life. 303 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,840 So, can I just point out, this is a motoring expert, 304 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,160 a fully-grown woman, who's done this a million times 305 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,400 struggling to put a seatbelt on? This is how bad this design is. 306 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,240 (LAUGHS) This is, this is ridiculous! 307 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,800 Do you know what? I think I've just been super thick. 308 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,600 You didn't put your head through it? 309 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,920 Instead of going that way, you went that way. 310 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,680 (ALL LAUGH) 311 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,880 Well, I have to say, look, this is really, really close to my face. 312 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,160 So, in any shunt, this is gonna go tight, cos Vicki's going forward. 313 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,480 I've gone forward like that. I'm gonna cut my face off on that. 314 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Safety in general is not the Jogger's strong point. 315 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,080 It got a lowly one-star Euro NCAP rating. 316 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Actually, when you look bit deeper, 317 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,080 what you find is that it's only got one star 318 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,160 because it doesn't come with the extra electronic safety aids 319 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,280 that stop the car from veering out of lane accidentally. 320 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:45,120 So, it's still worth considering, despite that poor score. 321 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Jason, how much room is there in the back for you and Tyrone? 322 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,440 It's all right. It's all right. Room? 323 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,360 Yeah, there'd be plenty of room for kids. 324 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,280 You've got a nice big window next to you. 325 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,960 And it opens, which I think, to be honest, you'd need. 326 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Yeah?You need a bit of fresh air. I could do maybe an hour in here. 327 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,160 Yeah, we'll see Jason, because next, we took the Jogger out 328 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,400 for a run on the twisty alpine circuit. 329 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Can I just say it's a bit noisy in the back? 330 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,360 Is it?Cor, Christ!What noise are you getting? Wind? Tyre? 331 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Just road noise, and funnily enough, I can hear the exhaust. 332 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,480 It's like a horrible reverb-y rumble. 333 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,720 But enough about your voice. (LAUGHS)Yeah, yeah. 334 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,120 It's not very quick. A one-litre engine in a car this big, 335 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,560 I know it only weighs 1,200kg. 336 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,440 Nought to 62 takes 11.2 seconds. 337 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,840 But more importantly for a budget family car, 338 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,040 the fuel economy is a frugal 48.7 miles per gallon. 339 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,520 However, there was something about the Jogger 340 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,880 that was upsetting my passengers. 341 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,600 What about the body control? I feel like we're getting 342 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,360 quite a lot of roll in the corners. 343 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Yeah.I feel, erm, bilious. 344 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,240 Do you?Yeah.Oh. 345 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,400 Jason, you can be sick in Tyrone's lap. 346 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,360 That's gonna be a bad image. 347 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,160 I never feel sick in cars, but I did feel sick in that. 348 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,880 How are things up front, then, Rory? 349 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Well, the steering, I've noticed, is on the slow side. 350 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,000 You know when you drive a lorry and you gotta really turn the wheel? 351 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,680 It's a bit like that. 352 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Yeah, I'm feeling sick now.Yeah. 353 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,960 There's a lot of body movement, not a lot of control. (LAUGHS) 354 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,640 Is there any... Can I open any windows in here? 355 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Are you genuinely feeling sick? 356 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,520 I can probably do another half a lap. 357 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,680 It is what you might call a very roly-poly car. 358 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,880 And if you've got kids that come for a ride with you, 359 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800 I pretty much guarantee, if you're on a twisty road, 360 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,280 someone is going to feel sick. 361 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,360 My kids felt sick. 362 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Rory, Daddy, I really need to pull over, 363 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,160 cos I'm feeling sick now, please. Are we there yet? 364 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 I'll tell you, I've never felt like this in a car in my life. 365 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,840 I know that might sound a bit extreme.Oh, wow. 366 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,480 I like the fact that it's cheap, it's got seven seats, 367 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,520 I like the way it looks. But in saying that, 368 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,200 it's not a good place to be in the back. 369 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,480 So, because it's just not a nice place to be inside, it gets a four. 370 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,680 The Euro NCAP rating of one isn't great, 371 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,920 so I'm actually going to give it a score of six. 372 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Dacia Jogger, I like the fact that it looks good, 373 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,360 I like the fact it can carry seven people, 374 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,160 I like the fact that it's cheap. 375 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,920 But I am going to give it 5.5 out of ten. It could be better. 376 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,680 So, despite its seven-seat practicality, 377 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,000 the Dacia Jogger's roly-poly ride 378 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,120 means that it received a disappointing team test score 379 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080 of 15.5 out of 30. 380 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,160 Coming up in part three, we enter phase two 381 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,200 of our Defender versus Grenadier all-terrain challenge 382 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,160 to see which four-by-four can tow like a pro. 383 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,800 JIMMY: Here I go!No, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop! 384 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,120 And I uncover a pair of pre-loved pocket rockets. 385 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,200 Not quite so hot hatches from the '80s and noughties 386 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,240 that have all of the dash, but for a lot less cash 387 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,840 than their GTI rivals. 388 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,920 (GASPS) Have I mentioned the sport button? 389 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,560 So, this guy says to me, 'You know about cars. 390 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,560 Which ones are the most fun to drive? Is it supercars?' 391 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Supercars, all agreed, they're amazing, 392 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,040 but I wouldn't say they're fun. No, exactly. 393 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,560 Literally, I am concentrating so hard whenever I'm driving one, 394 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 just nervous that I'll stack the thing.(ALL LAUGH) 395 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,440 So, what did you say? I just said hot hatches. 396 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,760 Oh, excellent answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 397 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,920 But I don't think they need to be that hot, actually. 398 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,640 The weather might be filthy cold today, 399 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,280 but I'm feeling quite cosy. 400 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:05,400 Why? Because I've got this pair for company. 401 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,480 A couple of warm hatches. 402 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Let me introduce you to the Peugeot 205 XS 403 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,360 and the Fiat Panda 100HP. 404 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,200 Now, you might be thinking warm isn't exactly hot, 405 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 but I'm here to tell you that performance isn't everything. 406 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,920 Yes, it really is possible to have lots of fun with cars 407 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,960 that are mildly souped-up rather than highly tuned. 408 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,120 And because they're from back in the day 409 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,680 when cars were much simpler, they are also cheaper to buy, 410 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,640 maintain, and insure. 411 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,920 I'll start with the older of the two. 412 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:50,840 The 205 launched in 1983, and immediately found fond favour, 413 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,160 thanks to its pert looks and clever packaging, 414 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,200 in particular, a compact rear suspension 415 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,240 that maximised cabin space. 416 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 And because these were the days before safety regs 417 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,560 demanded door pillars like tree trunks, 418 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,200 everything inside is very airy. 419 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,920 The XS model came around in 1986, 420 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,280 and the four-cylinder 1,360cc engine 421 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:21,840 has just 80, eight-zero, horsepower, which seems comical today. 422 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,800 However, while a modern hatch can weight 1,500kg and more, 423 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,480 the Peugeot 205 was around 700 kilos lighter. 424 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Consequently, a top speed of 110 miles an hour is possible, 425 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,440 and 62 miles an hour comes up in just over ten seconds, 426 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600 which is pretty decent for a small car 427 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,840 that's nearly four decades old. 428 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,720 So, what did the XS cost? 429 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,400 Well, back then, it was a smidge under £10,000. 430 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,200 Today, a well-maintained, rust-free example like this one 431 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,040 will cost about 5,000, which is not a fortune. 432 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,200 So, what makes it so much fun to drive? 433 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,640 Well, it's all about commitment. 434 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720 This car doesn't have big tyres with big traction 435 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,800 or a big engine to pull you along. 436 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,440 You absolutely have to live on your wits with this. 437 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,160 You have to stir it a bit to make it work, 438 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840 you have to understand what's coming ahead 439 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,720 and how you can get the best out of the next corner 440 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,320 whilst not slowing down too much. 441 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,640 And thankfully, the lovely little 442 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,840 front-wheel drive chassis lets you do this. 443 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,280 The engine revs freely, the gearbox is good, 444 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:42,320 and honestly, it is no wonder that Peugeot sold five million 205s 445 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,560 in its 16-year production run. 446 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,040 So, what must you look out for if you fancy a bit of XS? 447 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:55,440 It might surprise you to know that 205s are pretty resilient to rust. 448 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,720 However, the window seals can be leaky, 449 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,680 and if, for example, some water gets into the back windows, 450 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,400 then drops down into metal which hasn't been properly protected, 451 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,160 well, then that is when the rot sets in. 452 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,200 So, check the rear wheel arches and seals, 453 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,560 or a bill for around 1,500 quid could be coming your way. 454 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Over time, the rear suspension can seize. 455 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Nasty noises from the rear 456 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800 and a saggy-looking bottom are your clues. 457 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,680 Your bank balance will sag along with it to the tune of £1,500. 458 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240 Steer clear of these pitfalls and you'll enjoy miles 459 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,840 of low-cost motoring in one of the prettiest hatches ever. 460 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,480 But now, feast your eyes on this. 461 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000 The Fiat Panda has always been seen 462 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,800 as a utilitarian A-to-B kind of car. 463 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,280 No-one imagined it could become sporty, 464 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,440 except Fiat. 465 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,120 When the 100HP was launched in 2006, 466 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,960 Evo Magazine said that it offered the most fun per pound 467 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040 than anything on the market. 468 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,960 The price of that fun, well, just a fiver short of £10,000. 469 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,760 So, allowing for inflation, 470 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,120 the Fiat was much cheaper than the Peugeot. 471 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,680 But does it feel it? Not from where I'm sitting. 472 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Ahead of me is a 1.4, 16-valve engine 473 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,800 that was thoroughly modern for its day. 474 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,080 It revs to 7,000rpm, and the result 475 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,560 is a nought to 62 time in nine and a half seconds. 476 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,960 And there's more. 477 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,120 There are disc brakes all round, 478 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520 and the suspension is stiffer and lower 479 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,400 to give it a sportier feel. 480 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,720 It also came with 15-inch alloy wheels, tinted windows, 481 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,760 and a few mildly aggressive body parts, 482 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,000 plus sports seats, and even air con. 483 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,880 The simple fact is, this little workhorse was treated 484 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,360 to so much more than a go-faster paint job. 485 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,440 (GASPS) Have I mentioned the sport button? 486 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Pressing this wakes up the electric steering 487 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560 and sharpens the throttle response. 488 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,720 Quite something 18 years ago, 489 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,480 especially on such a budget-friendly car. 490 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,240 But is the Panda 100HP really as much fun 491 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,920 as the headlines suggested? 492 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600 For such a boxy, awkward-looking car, 493 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,200 it does handle pretty well. 494 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,200 It turns when I want it to turn. There is a bit of body roll, 495 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,480 and the steering isn't quite as sharp as it is in the 205, 496 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:37,440 but it is fun, and I can totally see why Evo Magazine rated it so highly. 497 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480 And the best news? Currently, the Panda can be bought 498 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,960 for less than half its original price. Yes, five grand! 499 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,440 Nevertheless, there are some areas to look out for 500 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,160 if you're in the mood to buy. 501 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640 The car is very sensitive to suspension geometry, 502 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,040 so make sure the wheels are aligned correctly, 503 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840 or else the Panda will be eating tyres faster than bamboo. 504 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,040 The shock absorbers can start to leak due to corrosion. 505 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Excessive bouncing over bumps is a sign 506 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,240 that you will have a £400 bump in your bank account. 507 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,120 And finally... 508 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,560 the power steering motor can fail, so to check it, 509 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,400 turn the engine on, make sure you're in normal, not sport mode, 510 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,520 and if the steering wheel is much heavier than this, 511 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,000 then you could be looking at a £600 bill. 512 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,960 Right, then. If I had £5,000 in my back pocket 513 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320 and I was looking to buy an agile, sporty hatchback 514 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,200 from back in the day, which would I choose? 515 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Both cars really are so eager to please and are definitely fun. 516 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,480 But which one do I prefer, the Panda or the Pug? 517 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,720 (BREATHING DEEPLY) I have to go with the iconic Pug. 518 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200 JASON: Welcome back to our four-by-four challenge 519 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,040 between the Land Rover Defender and the INEOS Grenadier. 520 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,320 We started by taking the cars out on the road, 521 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,200 and although the Grenadier had a reasonable ride and quirky interior, 522 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520 its steering was a bit wayward. 523 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,520 You are constantly adjusting. 524 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720 And the engine, underpowered. 525 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,760 In short, it simply couldn't match 526 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,200 the pace and refinement of the Land Rover. 527 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320 For round one, the Defender takes it.By acres. 528 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,240 However, our next test should be more in the Grenadier's wheelhouse, 529 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,440 because we're heading off-road. 530 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,080 The question is, can it keep up with the Defender 531 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,120 when the going gets really tough? 532 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480 After all, Land Rover have been making 533 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960 rugged four-by-fours since 1948. 534 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,800 To find out, we're going to hitch our cars to a trailer 535 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,320 that weighs 1.5 tonnes and aim them at a steep, wet hill. 536 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Slippery grass is about as demanding as it gets for maintaining traction. 537 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Our resident off-road expert, Jimmy, will take the wheel for this test, 538 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,280 and once again, the Landy will set the benchmark. 539 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,080 But first, there's another tricky towing task. 540 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320 Hitching up. 541 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Now, this car comes with a £1,400 towbar package, 542 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,120 which should make working with the trailer absolutely seamless. 543 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Watch and be impressed. He's not got a tow hook. 544 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Right. Ooh, he managed to turn it on. 545 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,080 I get this nice little picture with a red dot. That red dot should be 546 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080 exactly where my tow bar's gonna be. 547 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960 Here I go! Then back this up, 548 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,760 just aiming the yellow line to the hitch. 549 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280 No tow hook.No tow bar, pal. 550 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,400 Jim Jims? Yeah, no, you're good! 551 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Don't worry.No, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop! 552 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Watch, watch, watch. Park, deploy. 553 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Ooh!No, shut up.(CHUCKLES) 554 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,440 A couple more quick tasks, and he's done. 555 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,160 Well done.Right, shall we? 556 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,560 At this point, Jimmy could go 557 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,400 into numerous off-road menus, 558 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,360 select various locking differentials, 559 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,000 adjusting where and how the power is delivered. 560 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,520 But honestly, he doesn't need to bother. 561 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,040 What I'm gonna use is terrain response to auto, 562 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,160 so it's gonna decide what it needs to do. 563 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,440 Shall we see how idiot-proof it is? Yeah, yeah.(LAUGHS) 564 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,360 Now, towing a trailer like that is all about torque. 565 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,280 This petrol engine has 550 newtons, which is impressive. 566 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,240 But is it gonna be enough for this? 567 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,320 Come on, come on, come on, come on. 568 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Oh, it's liking it. It's liking it. 569 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,880 Oh, yes, it's kicking in. 570 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,800 It's doing things, it's doing things now. 571 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840 It's - Go on, then! Yeah, yeah, yeah. 572 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,360 Feel it moving the torque? Yeah, it is working around. It is working hard. 573 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,160 Oh, well, there we go. Ooh, you dancer. 574 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,960 (LAUGHS) 575 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Bravo.I wasn't changing my throttle then at all. 576 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,080 It was doing that? It was doing that.Wow. 577 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,200 Yeah, it was looking for grip. So, it was working really hard. 578 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,920 That's impressive, isn't it? 579 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,480 Having breezed up the hill, it's now time to tackle 580 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,040 one of driving's greatest challenges, 581 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280 reversing with a trailer. 582 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120 But the Defender has yet another trick up its sleeve. 583 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,600 By telling it what kind of trailer it's pulling, 584 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,960 it can utilise its advanced towing assist system. 585 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280 It can actually reverse it for you. 586 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Wow.No hands on wheel. 587 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,480 Press start. OK, pictures come up. 588 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,920 So, now I start moving my little trailer. 589 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840 Oh, stop it!Oh, that's so good. 590 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,920 To where I want to go.Genius! 591 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800 So, when I think I'm about pointing at the space, 592 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,760 I literally lift my foot up. 593 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,080 The car simply uses its side and rear cameras 594 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000 to calculate where the bay is 595 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,080 and how much steering input to apply. 596 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,520 Oh, my gosh, that's mental. 597 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,360 It just seems like a lot of faff. Am I being controversial? 598 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,840 You wanna see lot of faff, we're gonna swap over now, 599 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,280 then you can see how much faff we're gonna have. 600 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Yeah. Good point. Yeah.Good point. 601 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,240 As you might expect by now, there's nothing state-of-the-art 602 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,400 when it comes to towing with the Grenadier. 603 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,320 However, I have got a reversing camera, 604 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,320 which I'm hoping will be useful. Let's see. 605 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600 Ooh, pretty lights! 606 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,800 Eyes on the prize, I can see my tow hitch. 607 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,080 It's a good shot, actually. 608 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,280 Come on! Bit more, bit more! Stop! 609 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Oh, that's really good. Could be pretty close. 610 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Are we there? No, just a little bit more, little bit more. 611 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,960 Can you do a whisker?Yep. That's the one. 612 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,920 Very good, Jimmy. Do you want me to hold that? 613 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,200 Yeah, could you hold that?Yeah. 614 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,320 So you hold that up while I wind this down. 615 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,440 I've gotta be honest -She's on. 616 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,600 On the Defender, that was nice, just pressing a button.Yep. 617 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,680 I'm gonna get in. Cold out here, innit? 618 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,400 That's all on. Lovely.Ooh. 619 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,440 On paper, the Grenadier has plenty of pulling power. 620 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,040 Now, the same as the Defender, this also has 621 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,480 550 newton metres of torque, so we're level pegging. 622 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,440 But unlike the Defender, the driver has to control all that torque. 623 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040 So, any change in throttle pitch is me. 624 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,600 This is the crunch point, the slipperiest bit up the hill. 625 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Yeah. It's going.Yep. 626 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,920 Do you know what? That feels proper four-by-four now. 627 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,160 The Grenadier climbs the hill just as easily as the Defender. 628 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,160 But what will it be like to reverse? 629 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,800 More importantly, what will Jimmy be like? 630 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,840 You know how you were horrible about that computer earlier, JP? 631 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,240 Yeah.Yeah, you've got me now.(LAUGHS) 632 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,200 Oh, God.You're brilliant at this. 633 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680 I'm actually sweet. Yeah, you're peachy, mate. 634 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,920 Oh, Jimmy, like a pro. Yeah, yeah, yeah.Straight in. 635 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,640 Mate, check you out. 636 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,240 We don't need computers, we just need an expert. 637 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,040 So, both cars completed the mission. But can we pick a winner? 638 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,800 Driving up the hill, neck and neck. Agreed.Yeah. 639 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,560 Putting it in the bay, old-school mirrors, 640 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,200 actually learning your craft, Grenadier. 641 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,440 But you could not use the system in the Land Rover, 642 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,960 should you so wish, and you could back it in yourself. 643 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,440 You could.Good point. Good point. And that leaves hitching up, 644 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,800 which is where the Defender delivers the winning blow. 645 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,360 The whole reversing it and getting the trailer hitched...Beautiful. 646 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,040 ..is a game-changer. Game-changer. 647 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,560 So for me, the Defender wins this test. 648 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,240 Don't you think?I agree. 649 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,440 Still to come... Three, two, one, go. 650 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,120 ..our four-by-four showdown reaches its dramatic climax 651 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,560 as the Land Rover Defender and INEOS Grenadier go toe-to-toe... 652 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,240 (LAUGHS) 653 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880 ..around a high-speed obstacle course. 654 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,000 (COWS MOOING) 655 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,600 Welcome back to our on-road, off-road challenge 656 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,920 between the Land Rover Defender and the INEOS Grenadier, 657 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 the car built by an oil company 658 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,440 from the ashes of the original Land Rover. 659 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,800 So far, the Defender has proved more refined on the road, 660 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,880 and it's just won the towing test, 661 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,160 thanks to its clever hitching system. 662 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,960 Oh, stop it.Oh, that's so good. 663 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,320 But although it's already two-nil to the Landy, 664 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,120 the Grenadier's no-nonsense attitude shouldn't be dismissed, 665 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,360 so we're keen to see how it copes with our next challenge. 666 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080 And also, I've not had a chance to drive yet, 667 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,320 which, well, it's just not right, is it? 668 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,320 Now we're gonna find out how nimble these cars are 669 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,680 by subjecting them to an auto test. 670 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,760 This is a race against the clock around a series of obstacles, 671 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480 tough enough on tarmac, but to up the ante, 672 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,880 we're taking them to their natural habitat, a sodden field. 673 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,320 If a heavy four-by-four can turn, stop, and reverse well out here, 674 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,200 then it really will have well and truly earned its stripes. 675 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,000 As usual, the Landy goes first, 676 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,000 and Vicki's gonna keep an eye on the stopwatch. 677 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,040 Monsieur Plato?Yeah? 678 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,080 So, the course is hoon down this slalom, 679 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,520 go to the black bale at the bottom, go around that twice, 680 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,600 reverse into the "garage" that we set up with the bales, 681 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,160 and then hoof it straight down the same gates 682 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,840 that we've gone into the course. 683 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,120 Rock and roll.What setting are you gonna have? 684 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,720 I've given it some thought, lots of different settings. 685 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,240 I could go for something like general, don't fancy a bit of that. 686 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,400 Grass, gravel, and snow. Yes, for this. 687 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,520 Ah, no, well, you see, you think that, but sand's caught my eye, 688 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,280 cos it's really mushy there. So, I'm gonna go sand.OK. 689 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,440 And I'm gonna take off the traction control. 690 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600 I'm staying quiet cos I'm probably gonna have sick all over my face. 691 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560 Yeah.Do you know what he had for lunch? 692 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,720 No.Chilli con carne.Ooh. 693 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,240 Right, are you ready? 694 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,360 Three, two, one, go. 695 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560 Ooh, she goes. 696 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480 No car likes changing direction repeatedly, 697 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,720 let alone one that's nearly two metres tall. 698 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,240 What happens if I hit into a bale? Would we be OK? 699 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,720 Right, time for the 720 roundabout. 700 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,720 Twice around the roundabout. Twice, twice. 701 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,240 I want a handbrake, I wanna get on the wand. 702 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,080 An old-school handbrake, or wand, as I call it, 703 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,920 would help slide the back wheels out, 704 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,200 letting the car rotate quicker. 705 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,280 (LAUGHS)But the Defender, 706 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,400 like most modern new cars, just has an on-off button. 707 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480 Do you know what? It's so muddy! 708 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,320 For a big car, the Defender has a fairly quick steering rack 709 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,480 at just 2.7 turns lock-to-lock. 710 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,920 On a tight course like this, less wheel twirling could pay dividends. 711 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Into the parking space. The clock is ticking. 712 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,080 All the way, all the way in. Ooh.Oh, you got that nice. 713 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Go, go, go, go, go, go. Hotfoot it 714 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,680 straight through the gates that we came in on. 715 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Whee! (LAUGHS) 716 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,720 And...stop the clock! 717 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,160 That was all right, wasn't it? That was good. 718 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,680 So, it's onto the Grenadier. 719 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,960 The course has been churned up by the Defender, 720 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,720 but that shouldn't throw a full-on off-roader like this. 721 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,920 So, in terms of settings, I've got no computers here, really.No. 722 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,120 So I think I'm just gonna lock my centre diff. 723 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,800 Yeah, so you're in high range. 724 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920 I've turned all the traction and ESC off.And stick it in drive. 725 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,680 I'm gonna put me seat heaters on. 726 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,600 Do you want yours? I'm fine, thank you. 727 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,320 Only heat from me is gonna be coming from my sweaty palms. 728 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,120 OK.Right, I'll count you down, big boy. Whoo! 729 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,840 Are we ready?OK. 730 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,320 Three, two, one, go! 731 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,840 I was hoping the Grenadier would make a promising start, 732 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,400 but my first impressions weren't great. 733 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,880 It's not anywhere near as responsive on the throttle. 734 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,920 The steering might be designed for off-road use, 735 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,280 but it seems not this kind of off-road use. 736 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600 But with the roundabout upon us... 737 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,320 Ooh, I've got a handbrake. Handbrake, handbrake.Handbrake! 738 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,440 ..perhaps my wand would conjure up some magic. 739 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,600 No, that doesn't work.No. That doesn't work. 740 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,480 And to make matters worse, the Grenadier's turning circle 741 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,160 is half a metre wider than the Defender's. 742 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,800 Have I done enough circles yet? Yeah, that's your two. 743 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,640 Into the car parking space. 744 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,160 Now, the Land Rover went into reverse beautifully. 745 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,840 Got in actually all right. 746 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,840 And hoof it home.Come on! 747 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,280 The challenge is over. 748 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,240 But which four-by-four was fastest? 749 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,240 I'll tell you what, it's gonna be close again. I can feel it. 750 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,960 Go on, three earth pounds says - I go with the Defender, 751 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,760 should've taken it by a country mile.That's the faster car. 752 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,840 Yes, got to be, surely. 753 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,280 OK, give me what gap you think there might be. 754 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,160 Three seconds.Two seconds. 755 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,760 The car that did it in the quickest time...Uh-huh?Is? 756 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,840 ..the Defender!Yes! Had to be. By just over four seconds. 757 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,800 By over four seconds?Four seconds? Yeah.Quite a bit, isn't it? 758 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,360 But although it's three-nil to the Defender, 759 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,080 the Grenadier gave a very decent account of itself. 760 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,240 I mean, bravo, jolly well done here. 761 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,440 Seventy-five years' less development time. 762 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,080 This is a decent bit of kit. It's a very good bit of kit.Yeah. 763 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,320 The Land Rover's decades of off-road pedigree 764 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,560 meant that it was just too sophisticated, ingenious... 765 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,360 Ooh!No, shut up! 766 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,920 ..and agile for the INEOS. 767 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,720 So, shall we pull up by the winner, 768 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,800 and I'll take the winner home? (LAUGHS) 769 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000 Subtitles by Deluxe