- Hey, Mom. WOMAN: Yes, son. How are you?
- How you doing? You doing good?
WOMAN: Doing awesome.
Just getting ready to go to the gym.
Okay. I'm just calling to let you know that, um,
I was selected to be the next Bachelor.
So... WOMAN: [ gasps ] No way.
- Yeah. No. I'm -- WOMAN: Are you kidding me?
- I'm not joking. I'm serious.
You're kidding. Tell me you're kidding me.
- I'm not joking. I'm serious.
So hopefully you and Grandma and everybody watch this season
and, you know, hopefully, I --
WOMAN: Oh, my gosh. -Yeah. It's crazy, right?
- I'm so excited. I'm so happy for you.
Are you sure? Are you kidding me?
- No, I'm not. I'm serious. I'm serious. WOMAN: Is this a joke?
Oh, Grant, I'm so excited. Congratulations, son.
- Thank you so much.
So I'll -- I'll keep in touch and -- I'll keep in touch.
And, uh, hopefully Grandma and everybody
watches this season with you.
WOMAN: Oh, absolutely. I'm so excited. I love you.
I'm so proud of you. Congratulations.
- Alright. Love you too, Mom. WOMAN: Love you, son.
Bye-bye. - Alright.
♪♪
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪
JESSE: That's pretty cool. How you doing?
Good to see you guys. Hey. Thank you.
What's up, guys? How you doing? Good to see you.
[ Bachelors chanting "Jesse!" ]
Alright.
[ audience chanting "Jesse!" ]
Wow. Okay. Alright.
Good evening, Bachelor Nation. It's great to see you.
I'm Jesse Palmer, and welcome
to The Bachelorette: The Men Tell All.
[ cheers and applause ]
Now, Jenn's journey to find love
has been full of shocking surprises,
epic romance, and explosive drama.
And tonight is gonna be no different.
All your favorite guys are back, and they are ready
to dish the dirt about everything that went down.
And then later, your newest Bachelor, Grant,
is gonna be joining us right here onstage.
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright. So what do you think? Should we just get to it?
TOGETHER: Yeah!
- Alright. Here are the guys --
Ricky, Brian,
Hakeem, Brett,
John, Jeremy,
Thomas N., Tomas A.,
Dylan, Aaron,
Sam M., Spencer,
and Sam N.
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright. Well, it's great seeing you all.
I gotta be honest.
I've been thinking about this day for a long time.
I am fired up, so I'm just gonna stand up here,
if that's okay, for a minute with you guys.
I know you all have a lot to say,
and we're definitely gonna get to all that
and give you the opportunity to do that.
But I do want to pause for a moment
because we need to talk about Jenn.
Let me ask our audience -- What do you think
of our Bachelorette? [ cheers and applause ]
Yeah, I agree.
She's pretty great, right?
Well, Jenn put her career on hold
to see if she could finally leave her toxic relationships
behind and find that ferocious love that she deserves.
But last week, things took a dramatic turn,
and Devin simply couldn't take it anymore.
So the big question now -- Will this be the end
for Devin and Jenn?
Well, you're gonna find out...
next week.
[ audience groans ]
No, I'm just kidding.
You're actually gonna find out right now.
[ cheers and applause ]
Yeah. So grab your Mai Tai, hold on to your flip-flops,
because we are going back to Hawaii.
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪
- [ sighs ]
I'm feeling anxiety and -- and stress
and, you know, I'm scared.
[ sighs ]
I told Jenn that I love her
and -- and let her know how I truly feel,
and she didn't say it back and I feel
like I'm an option still and that hurts.
♪♪
I don't really know how she feels about me,
but it's something that I need and -- and I want that from her.
[ sighs ]
So I know what I need to do today.
I need to talk to Jenn.
This is probably the end for me and it scares me to no end.
But I can't keep moving forward
without getting this off of my chest.
[ knocking ]
♪♪
- Hey. DEVIN: Hi.
JENN: Hey, you. What are you doing here?
DEVIN: I'm here to talk. JENN: What?
DEVIN: Sorry to surprise you. - Sorry to surprise me?
♪♪
DEVIN: Ohh.
JENN: Hey. What's up? - Hey.
- Um... JENN: What's wrong?
Are you okay? - I'm not -- Yeah. I'm good.
I just -- I...
I need you to -- I have a tough convo,
and I need you to just be here with me on it, okay?
- Okay. - Um...
I have really cherished, like,
everything that we've been through.
And I think that you've seen me throughout this whole experience
put my heart on my sleeve.
And I'm not gonna lie to you right now.
I'm just in a weird headspace with my feelings.
Um...
- How so? - You know,
I just -- I'm doubting a little bit
of where your head's at right now. Um...
And I should have brought this up to you, you know,
over overnights, but I was just...
You know, I've tried to prioritize you,
and I've tried not to put pressure on you.
And I know how difficult it is for you to be in your position,
but with me, um, you know,
I haven't been the priority in so many of my relationships,
and I've been that second and third option,
and I've felt like a safe bet, you know, before.
And, you know, I feel like I'm the safe option for you
because, you know, I am the way I am.
And, you know, I-I feel like I'm wanted here,
but I don't feel like I'm needed here, and that scares me.
'Cause I've risked -- I've risked everything for you and...
My feelings, my sanity.
I do feel like I-I want to -- I want to get to the end.
But I don't know how to get there with you right now.
Um, and that's not for lack of feelings.
Like, I love you. I really, really do, you know?
And -- And I want you to know that I do.
You know, I've -- I've gone through a lot to be here,
and I've gone through a lot while I'm here, and...
JENN: Mm.
- You know, proposals are next week,
and I still don't know where your head's at, and...
that scares the [ bleep ] out of me.
♪♪
- [ breathes deeply ]
I'm not as good with my words as you are,
and I'm not as good at expressing
my feelings as you are.
And I know that that's not my strong suit,
and I want to be able to do better for you.
And sorry that I wasn't reassuring you.
And [ sighs ]
[ voice breaking ] I don't know how to be and, like...
[ sniffles, sighs ]
[ sniffles ]
I don't want him to feel like that.
I-I want him to feel chosen.
I'm just not great at expressing myself.
And I'm not great at putting myself out there all the time.
I don't know how to be in a healthy relationship.
I don't know how to be...
maybe what you need me to be, and I -- And I wa--
And I want to do that for you,
and I want to feel like I can do that in the way
that you do that for me every week after week.
And [ sniffles ]
I don't know what I would do if I lost Devin at this point.
He's always so good at reading me and being there for me,
and I want to do that for him, and [ sniffles ]
the fact that I wasn't able to read
that he was feeling that way and that he...
I don't -- I don't know. Like...
that he doesn't feel love from me.
It's like, am I doing something wrong?
[ sniffles ]
You fought so much for me being here,
and I can see that and I can feel that.
And I don't know what I would do if you weren't here.
I don't know what I would do if -- if --
if I didn't feel the love from you
and if I -- If -- If it wasn't --
If we weren't together, I don't know what I would do.
♪♪
Devin, I do love you, you freaking idiot.
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪
[ Devin sniffles ]
Listen, I love you. I do.
And sometimes I just don't know how to be as amazing as you are.
DEVIN: I do love you, Jenn.
JENN: I love you.
[ cheers and applause ]
DEVIN: You know, I was down,
I was down, and she immediately thought to pick me up.
I feel closer than ever to Jenn.
And I'm feeling stronger than ever before.
I feel like a new man. I'm in love, you know?
I feel that truly, and "elated" is my only adjective
that I could put on it.
I think I have what I need to keep moving.
♪♪
JENN: I love you. - Love you, too.
JENN: Love you more. - Mm-hmm.
- Alright. See you soon. JENN: Bye.
- Bye.
[ applause ]
JESSE: That's pretty powerful stuff, right?
So who goes home at the rose ceremony in Hawaii?
What do you think? Should we find out?
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright, we'll do just that when we return.
Don't go away.
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪
- Welcome back to a very special Men Tell All.
And all of your favorite guys are here.
And we're about to add one more,
because one man will be going home at the rose ceremony
in Hawaii and then joining the others right here on this stage.
Who's that gonna be? Let's find out.
[ dramatic music plays ]
♪♪
[ birds chirping ]
♪♪
- I'm stressed, but if I get a rose today,
it'll feel incredible.
♪♪
I told Jenn from the beginning I was a bit of a slow burn,
but after our overnight,
I can see a future with her.
I can see her as part of my family.
You know, she has these amazing relationships
with these other guys, and I've never let the thought
of other people's relationships get into my head until today.
I think what we have is great.
But I don't know how great it is compared to these two guys.
Marcus and Devin are great guys,
but I'm my own worst enemy and I regret the fact
that I was not able to just jump in sooner.
You know, I want to just express to her how I really feel.
I just hope to God that I'm not too late...
...because I know she is the one for me.
♪♪
JENN: It's nice to see you guys.
Um...
Going into this week, I had a lot of questions,
specifically regarding
what a future would look like with each of you,
and it was a really revealing time for me.
I revealed parts of my heart and parts of my soul to you guys,
and I felt things that I've never felt before.
So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for everything.
It's not easy for me to have to send somebody home.
And as much as this hurts my heart
to have to make a nearly impossible decision today,
I know what I have to do.
[ dramatic music plays ]
♪♪
- [ sighs ]
♪♪
- Devin.
♪♪
Devin, will you accept this rose?
- You know I will.
♪♪
[ dramatic music plays ]
♪♪
- Gentlemen, Jenn,
it's the final rose.
Are you ready? - Okay.
[ dramatic music plays ]
♪♪
Marcus.
[ audience gasps, ohhs ]
♪♪
WOMAN: Oh, no.
- Marcus, will you accept this rose?
- I'd love to.
Thank you.
♪♪
- Jonathon, I am so sorry. Take your time.
And when you're ready, you can say your goodbyes.
Okay? Alright.
MARCUS: I love you, man.
- Thank you.
♪♪
JONATHON: Okay.
♪♪
[ Jenn sighs ]
JENN: How are you doing?
- Been better. - Yeah.
- I think the, uh. hardest part about this is, uh...
being a slow burn was my fault through and through.
I'm my own worst enemy.
And, uh, I know it doesn't help our situation now,
but I was just on a walk along the beach last night
and just found these chairs that overlook the ocean
and just needed a second to think.
And the whole time I was sitting there thinking,
I found all the clarity that I needed.
And, uh, there was nobody
that I wanted to be sitting there with more than you.
And it hit me that, you know, I took too long to realize that,
you know, to realize how incredible you are.
The things you've taught me just about myself
and what I expect and want from a partner moving forward.
It was just...
I think you were perfect for me
and I wasn't perfect for you.
And that's a really hard pill for me to swallow.
- I mean, our relationship was based off of a friendship
at first, and I've never really had that before --
being able to truly be myself with somebody.
And I want you to know how much I truly appreciated that,
because you've taught me a lot, too,
and I mean that. - I appreciate it.
JENN: Yeah.
- You have two great guys down there,
and I really hope you find exactly what you're looking for.
- Thank you. - You deserve it.
- Thank you. - You're absolutely incredible.
[ engine starts ]
- Alright. Ready?
- No, but yeah. [ laughs ]
Yeah. - Okay.
♪♪
Thank you for everything.
♪♪
Okay. Shh.
♪♪
[ Jonathon sighs ] ♪♪
JONATHON: I'm just mad at myself.
If I could have gotten there sooner,
this wouldn't even be a problem.
I could have done better. I could have been better.
I could see an amazing future with this girl.
[ sniffles ]
And I feel like the biggest idiot in the world,
because something amazing was right in front of me,
and I was too much of my own enemy just to see it
until I was too late.
[ voice breaking ] I'm just tired of standing in my own way.
♪♪
JESSE: Well, there you have it.
So what does Jonathon have to say
about that devastating breakup?
We are going to find out when we return,
because he is going to join the rest of the men
right here onstage.
And then these guys are ready to tell all.
Plus, don't forget -- Our newest Bachelor, Grant, is gonna be
with us here tonight, so don't go away.
[ cheers and applause ]
- Welcome back to The Bachelorette: The Men Tell All.
And, of course, we just watched
Jonathon's emotional breakup in Hawaii,
and he's here with us now.
So please give it up, everybody, for Jonathon.
[ cheers and applause ]
Jonathon, it's great seeing you, man.
First, I want to go back to the very beginning.
You definitely, ahem, revealed yourself
to Jenn on that first night.
But honest question -- How much of an immediate connection
did you feel with her?
For me, it was pretty instantaneous.
You know, it felt fun, it felt free,
and it just felt like I was in the right place. - Yeah.
- I didn't appreciate your ass being out the whole time,
but, you know, it was a good one. - I was cold.
- I'm just jealous that I didn't come up with that myself.
- We saw his ass before his face.
- Well, Ricky, you had a lot of confidence.
You were spitting poetry at Jenn.
But how did it feel to not get a rose on that first night?
- I would be lying if I said that I wasn't disappointed,
but at the end of the day,
if she finds love, I'll applaud for her.
I'll find my one at some point.
It doesn't have to be here, so...
[ applause ]
JESSE: Brett, I got to give it to you, man.
I don't know if any of the other guys got as much love
as you did on social media.
Bachelor Nation, they sure did fall hard.
[ cheers and applause ]
- Thank you. Thank you. [ laughs ]
JESSE: So, Brett, I got to ask you --
What has the response been like for you?
BRETT: Overwhelming.
You know, I consider myself a pretty private guy.
And that's -- that's out the window now.
- Well, I know you shared with me
some of the interesting messages... - Yeah.
JESSE: ...from some very friendly Brett fans. - Yeah, they were interesting.
So here's the first DM. "You are suchhh a stud."
[ laughter ] - That's three H's.
I've never -- I've only gotten one before.
JESSE: Now... [ laughter ]
Here's another one. "You're so hot."
BRETT: Damn right. - "Just thought you should know."
MAN: That was... - Damn right. Damn right! - Thank you.
[ applause ] JESSE: These are cute.
There's a lot of other messages that got kind of intense.
- Yeah, they did get intense. - Jonathon, can you help me out?
- "I cannot believe you didn't get a rose.
If you need, I'm comfort.
I'll be here with open arms, an open mouth, and open..."
MAN: Ah! [ cheers and applause ]
- Yeah. Um, I said, "I really appreciate the kindness.
Uh, but my mom's watching.
[ laughter ] But that's very generous."
If you're a baseball player, that's all the bases.
JESSE: Okay, Brett, I got one more I want you to read.
- "Hi. Do you do foot content?"
Um, Thursday at 7:49 a.m. Was his first thought.
- [ laughs ] - I don't do foot content --
yet. [ laughter ]
[ applause ]
JESSE: Well, enjoy the ride, man. - Thank you.
I'm glad you're getting the love you are. BRETT: Yeah.
JESSE: Listen, it really has been quite a season.
You know, you start with a strong, beautiful woman.
You add a bunch of guys trying to win her heart,
and things are bound to get a little crazy.
♪♪
[ men grunting ]
I'm here for you, Jenn. Let's go!
[ Jenn screams ]
- I want to win for Jenn. I'm trying to beat these guys. - Hey, hey, hey!
I'm gonna do everything I can to fight for Jenn's heart,
and I hate losing more than I love winning.
THOMAS N.: I know what Jenn wants and she wants
that ferocious love. - Oh!
JESSE: Wow! - Ten toes [ bleep ] down.
[ cheers and applause ]
WOMAN: Whoo-hoo-hoo-ooh!
WOMAN #2: Whoo!
HAKEEM: The pressure is really getting on people
and they are doing things that are extremely out of pocket.
- Jenn. I see myself getting on one knee for you. JENN: Mm.
- Jenn, I'm already falling in love with you.
Yeah! [ cheers and applause ]
- We were all stunned. We were all shocked.
There was kind of -- You could hear a pin drop.
- What the [ bleep ]
Because that is ludicrous.
SAM M.: There is a time and a place,
and that was not the time, nor the place.
Just shut up.
- Yeah, you should right now be talking to Jenn.
I'm not here and I think... - Get the [ bleep ] out.
I think that Sam is basically just full of [ bleep ]
- Thomas, yellow is a good color on you.
- Yeah, you're a child. SAM N.: Man.
[ bleep ] clown show.
- Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. JENN: Cheers.
- Can I steal you away for a second?
JENN: Yeah. Of course.
THOMAS N.: What the...just happened? MAN: Hey, it's alright.
- Don't -- Don't let him... do that to you, bro.
- Tommy's like Sam's minion. It's so obvious.
- I'm not here to fight you. I'm here to talk to you.
- Yeah. 'Cause you would get your [ bleep ] ass beat.
- Oh, congratulations. You got me. - [ bleep ] off.
DEVIN: When I talk, people listen. - Hey! Go inside.
- Thomas, Sam, Aaron, they feel some animosity towards Devin.
Some people are starting to call them the Chads.
DEVIN: Mind if I steal her for a minute?
- I do mind. - I wasn't asking you.
- Alright. If you're not asking, then no. JENN: Mm!
AARON: I just don't like the childish behavior from Devin.
And I feel like he's very much kind of obnoxious.
Like, almost like a pest.
I feel like you lack the depth to be with a girl like Jenn.
So I have a little something to give you.
He just lacks the awareness of how he's being perceived.
I've taken enough, and then I reached my breaking point.
I'm not gonna name names, but there are people
that I don't think they'll be ready at the end like you are.
And I think you know... JENN: That's not -- That's not fair.
No, I-I don't know, because I genuinely feel like
I have a connection with a lot of those guys down there.
It's on you to figure out. Just be careful.
DEVIN: Aaron chose to use his last moments to talk [ bleep ]
about every single person.
We don't know what -- who it was,
but it was somebody in this room.
SAM M.: Devin is the only person
that Aaron could ever be talking about.
I don't respect you. I don't like you.
I want nothing to do with you.
If you want to talk, yo, we will step outside and we can talk.
I can instill fear into this dude.
In the real world, I would snap you in half.
He's smooth with his words and, like, I'm smooth with these.
KEVIN: Sam says things to look a certain way
or to fill airwaves with quippy soundbites.
- Like, I'm always gonna keep the main thing, the main thing,
Keeping the main thing, the main thing.
It's going to be a testament to see who can keep
the main thing, the main thing.
Ferocious love. Ferocious love.
Cheers to a ferocious love.
My focal point is Jenn. That -- That's my idea. - Oh, no.
SAM M.: So anybody that gets in the way of that right there,
I'm gonna step on your neck. That's all I know.
[ laughs ]
[ applause ]
We got a lot to discuss here.
Aaron, I want to start with you.
You rolled a bit of a grenade into the journey
on your way out the door. - Yeah. At that point in time,
I thought Jenn and I had a mutual kind of understanding,
kind of a friendship,
and I felt like there was a level of trust
we had, where I was one of the more mature guys,
that she would kind of hear me.
So I wanted to just warn her that,
"Hey, I see a side of guys that you don't see."
So I wanted to make her alert, like, "Hey, just kind of,
you know, keep your eyes open."
And I did not think she was gonna react the way she did.
I'll just say that. BRIAN: Aaron, in this moment,
who were you talking about?
Two obvious ones would have been Devin.
At the time, I feel like he treated it like, uh, a game.
I'll also say it was -- I was thinking about Sam N.
You know, the love virgin. This is not on-the-job training.
You know, you should probably be ready.
I'd also say you, Spencer. I feel --
-What?! What?! SPENCER: [ bleep ]
- I would -- - Spencer?! - Hey, hey, hey.
- Hold on. - First off... -What?!
- Can I explain? -Wait, wait ,wait. [ bleep ]
- What?! - Can I explain?
- Bro, I don't even know you. Go.
AARON: I'm divorced.
I know how difficult it is to heal from a failed relationship.
Watching you on your one-on-one,
how uncomfortable it was talking about your engagement,
I just didn't feel like you're fully healed or you're ready.
SPENCER: Oh, yeah, yeah, 'cause I'm comfortable
talking about getting cheated on by someone I was about to marry?
You can still be healed and can not be comfortable.
What's so ridiculous is that you came into this thinking
you know what she wants. - I didn't say that.
This is Aaron's -- This is Aaron's opinion. - Yes, you did.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Aaron's opinion also told Devin,
"Hey, Devin, I know that you're not the right guy for Jenn."
You don't even know her.
And so for you to bring up me,
when you take the cowardly way out and just,
like, dip on out and decide to not name a name
when you're just gonna name people, like, come on.
You -- You have no right to say anything about Spencer
'cause Spencer is amazing.
Everybody, what you saw, he's that person.
He is that person.
He was there for the right reasons,
and he has no right to say when a man is healed or not.
- Aaron, that book, you need to go back to Australia
and grab that book and reread it.
- Me giving Devin the book
was not a place of being condescending,
and actually care about him as a person,
so I wanted him to have a resource
that he could be a more aware person of how he comes off... -You called him goofy.
- ...which he didn't realize.
- Are you a psychologist? [ laughter ]
AARON: Also, I didn't realize in the moment,
my twin brother a few years ago getting a similar type of book.
I wasn't thinking about that in the middle of Australia,
but I realize it was very similar.
I was just on the opposite end of it.
- We actually have some of Bachelor Nations favorites.
Your brother Noah is here in the audience
with his beautiful fiancée, Abigail.
You had a little bit of your own book-giving incident
back in the day on The Bachelorette with Bennett. - I did.
- So what did you think of your brother's book-giving skills?
NOAH: I was on the other side.
I had a 40-year-old dude from Harvard that was like,
"Hey, I'm from Harvard. You're from Oklahoma.
You know? Like, those two don't go together.
So I'm better than you.
And this is what you should do."
Aaron, you're my twin. We were in the womb together.
But I don't think the book's the move.
I don't think anybody should tell somebody
that they are or aren't ready.
We've all got our own journey. JESSE: Yeah.
Well, I think the book scandal proves that on The Bachelorette,
history sometimes is a vicious cycle.
[ laughter ]
I'm sorry for the pun, but it's time to "turn the page."
[ laughter ]
Aaron, earlier you mentioned Spencer,
but -- but you also mentioned Sam N.
In Melbourne, Thunder Down Under date, Sam N.,
you took the opportunity onstage to profess
that you were falling in love with Jenn. - A little bit, yeah.
- So what was your approach there? What was your mind-set?
- Um, I wanted to take the time, um,
to basically show Jenn how much she means to me.
And, sure, did I jump the gun a little bit?
Yeah, a little bit.
But at the end of the day, love isn't linear.
You know, everyone has their -- you know, their own timeline.
Devin says it a week later.
Grant says another week later.
Sam, you said it when you said it.
So I shot my shot.
I didn't -- I missed. Horribly missed. But...
- But it was -- It was rubbing some of the guys the wrong way.
- Yeah. I think everybody had their jaw to the floor.
Even the Australian Bachelorette said that,
"You know, hey, we feel like that's a little early.
We wish that we would have seen him,
you know, drop it to the floor." THOMAS N.: Yeah.
I'm gonna stand on what I said, and I said it to his face.
I said it in front of everyone,
is that I thought it was premature.
And I didn't think that being onstage
with everyone else that had just gotten half naked
to do their own thing on the -- on the stage --
I didn't think that was the place to do it.
- Sam N., you weren't the only Sam who got into some conflict.
Sam M., I think you took issue with Devin's
general approach to dating Jenn.
How come? SAM M.: Yeah, kind of --
All that stuff really started for me --
It was really night two, the rose ceremony,
and I had no idea what had happened
with Thomas N. and Devin.
- There was two weeks of being in Australia,
Austin didn't have a single second in front of Jenn,
not a single second.
So I took offense to Devin going first.
- Why would you take offense to somebody
that's actually trying to talk to the girl?
Like, in the real world, it's not like that, brother.
Like, if you're trying to, like, talk to Jenn or anybody --
- 100%. RICKY: Nah, let me finish.
They're gonna do what they're gonna do
because they're after the same girl.
So, like, how about you man up, show up, or...
- He said, "Hey, I'll be respectful
for everyone's time... MAN: Yeah.
...and -- and not being respectful for Austin's time,
who hadn't had a single second. - Devin -- Devin's not here.
So I got -- I got to defend Devin. I actually --
[ cheers and applause ]
Um...
Devin was not gonna just not talk to Jenn
at the rose ceremony.
Would I have done that? Not exactly.
But, like, I-I respected the move.
It's a strategy.
Um, the thing is, though, like, at least Devin,
like, was keeping the main thing, the main thing,
which was Jenn, un-- unlike two people here.
[ applause ]
- I want to ask -- How often did you hear
"keep the main thing, the main thing"?
- Every single day.
MAN: Baby, that's right.
- "Ten toes down." "Authentic self."
- "Best foot forward." - "Best foot forward."
- There it is. "Best foot forward." Yeah. - "Main thing, main thing."
What else you got, Sam, for us? MAN: "Devin, Devin, Devin."
- Everything he speaks is -- It's, like, from a movie.
It's words, words. - Yeah.
- It's just words without any weight to them whatsoever.
They sound great, and he goes on and on and on and on.
But you don't understand what they really mean
and the way they come off.
- Do you think Sam M. was keeping the main thing,
the main thing? - If the main thing was Devin,
then he was keeping the main...
[ laughter ] MAN: Yeah.
- It's sort -- Have you ever seen Mean Girls? And, like,
Lindsay Lohan's character just,
like, claims she hates Regina George,
but all she does is talk about Regina George.
And she turned -- MAN: Whoo!
- That was like Sam M. MAN: Whoo!
[ cheers and applause ]
- It's ironic that a catchphrase for the season
was "keeping the main thing, the main thing,"
because the main thing was rarely ever the main thing.
And it was a bunch of drama a bunch of guys...
not here for a marriage.
- The main thing was finding love
and staying true to yourself.
And if that brings a -- a world of hate, then I'll take it.
And I wish that my delivery in some of these things
could have been a lot better than what it was,
and I take responsibility for that.
I was only taught to love one way,
and it's either all in or all out.
- Alright, well, Sam, I think we got a lot to talk about.
Why don't you come on up in the hot seat?
We'll get to it.
MAN: Go! [ cheers and applause ]
JESSE: Come on.
- Getting a lot of static.
JESSE: Have a seat. SAM M.: Okay.
JESSE: You and I are gonna dig in.
We're gonna get to all that when we come back with more
of The Men Tell All.
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪
[ cheers and applause ]
- Welcome back to The Men Tell All.
How are we doing, everybody? Doing okay?
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright, well, let's just keep the main thing,
the main thing. [ laughter ]
I just had to try that for myself.
Sam, thanks so much for joining me up here, brother. - Absolutely.
- Okay. I-I think it's fair to say you had quite the journey.
Let's take a look back.
Hello, there. How are we doing?
SAM M.: Better now that I get to see you.
- Oh, okay. Already smooth with the lines.
SAM M.: You know. JENN: Sam M. is a hottie
and has a lot of Southern charm.
- I think we're really gonna hit it off.
JENN: He makes me feel excited.
He's got this energy that I am digging.
Will you accept this rose?
- Absolutely.
JENN: Perfect.
SAM M.: The chemistry is very apparent.
It just goes to show how deep that connection
is getting to and really what that can look like
down the road in the future.
I understand the feeling of, like, wanting to be
a better person for the person in front of you
every single day.
That's love. I care about Jenn a lot.
I always say keep the main thing, the main thing,
and Jenn is the main thing.
You have no doubt how bad I want this.
I want all of you, you know, the good, the bad.
Whatever you think is ugly, I don't see as ugly.
I see it as you. -Oh.
JENN: I am falling for Sam.
He's someone I can see a future with.
But at the same time, I am terrified.
I've had a lot of toxic relationships,
and I don't want to make that same mistake again.
WAITER: So you don't have to jump.
But you can walk around the tower and just enjoy the view.
- A walk sounds lovely. WAITER: Yeah?
- No, we would like to jump instead of walk.
- I hate heights, I don't want to do this.
I'm frustrated with Sam right now.
He was dismissing me, and he wasn't listening.
He tells the waiter that we're jumping
without even asking me how I'm feeling about it.
And that was my first big red flag.
What is it about me that makes you feel
like we could have a really great future together?
- Truly, your selflessness. - How do you know that
I'm selfless?
- I mean, you're either selfless or you're full of [ bleep ]
One or the other.
- But do you feel like you really know me?
SAM M.: I don't use a lot of words.
I told you from early that my love language is physical touch.
JENN: I don't feel like his answers make sense.
It reminds me exactly of my toxic ex-boyfriend.
So I need to know who Sam really is
and if he understands me.
I just -- I need answers, and I need clarity.
- With this idea of, like, yeah, how do I know it's you?
I don't. I do trust that I'm here for a reason,
- But that's you and that's your journey in wanting to be here.
But why me?
- Golly. [ breathes deeply ]
Because I love you.
- Sam. - Stop.
- You can't even express to me who I am to you.
I don't feel like he can back up his feelings for me.
I'm not seeing the love. This really is déjà vu.
I can't sit here with someone who says that they love me,
but doesn't even really want to get to know me
and understand me and see me.
I've closed this chapter in my life already.
[ dramatic music plays ]
- It's frustrating. You know, it sucks,
but the energy that she brought was very dull.
I think this really just goes to show
how little she actually does know about me.
It's not my fault.
So I can walk away, really, with my chin up.
♪♪
- So how does it feel watching that back?
- Yeah. It's tough.
Um, it's so easy to see the -- the areas
where you wish you could have done something different.
And I kind of have to live with it.
It's something that -- I was trying
to put a lot of stuff into words
that I genuinely couldn't, and everything that came to mind,
it just didn't feel like it was enough to truly define the way
that I actually felt in that moment.
- How strong did you feel for her?
- Very strong.
Truthfully, this was the first time
that I've ever been really put in the position
to have to explain why I love somebody,
and I just fell extremely short in that moment right there.
JESSE: I mean, you got put on the spot
there in Seattle, right? - 100%.
And -- And I think Jenn, and I think a lot of people,
just questioned your authenticity...
- For sure. Yeah. - ...with what you were saying.
JESSE: You told you that you loved her.
- For sure.
- Yeah, I-I stand -- I really do. I-I stand by...
- Sam, did you really love her? - 100%.
- I think to a lot of people watching that,
when you said that, it kind of felt like a Hail Mary.
- Yeah, for sure. And, you know --
And I watch all of this back on -- on TV
and I think I'm -- I'm struggling.
- I want to open it up to the panel here.
You're hearing what Sam has to say.
What are your thoughts?
BRIAN: Like, bro, that's -- It's a [ bleep ] move.
It's like, I could sniff it out, brother.
Every girl in this room could say that --
that there's been a [ bleep ] in their life
that they threw out the "I love you" just to keep it --
keep it going. SAM M.: I understand
what it might look like to everybody else,
but that's not me, and I hate
that in that moment right there, like, I fell so short.
HAKEEM: I ride with you.
You know that I love you to death.
But I have to hold you accountable to this
because you said you love her.
I'm a brother of four sisters, man.
And, like, if my sisters brought home a man
and he'd said he loved her
and he couldn't speak to why he loved my sister,
I would have a problem with that.
And I-I would hope you would have a problem with that
for your sister, as well.
- And -- And I take full accountability
for it, truthfully.
My past definitely snuck up on me, man.
The last time that I was vulnerable,
I got my heart broke, and that's
why I don't discredit what I said.
Because everybody does have a different way of -- of loving.
And that's where I can take this
and, like, really grow from, truly.
- There were just things towards the end,
even after Jenn had called it quits.
To be driving away and call someone that you loved dull
and to talk down.
- Actually, I really want to clear that up.
One thing that I grew very close to
with Jenn was being able to communicate with your eyes.
Your eyes do not lie. So her walking into that room,
I could see in her eyes
that there was -- There was no energy there.
There wasn't what I was used to seeing right there.
So I didn't call her dull.
I truthfully said that her eyes were dull,
and that was that moment, truthfully, right there.
- I mean, like, listen, I-I do respect that Sam came out here
and -- and, you know, said his piece.
I don't know where his eyes really were.
You know, he was talking about eyes a lot, about Jenn's eyes.
I-I -- He might have had eyes for Maria or Daisy before
and...you know. [ audience "ohhs" ]
- Actually, I'm -- I'm really glad you brought that up,
you know, truthfully.
Um, and yeah, whenever we all came out here,
we had no idea who the Bachelorette was gonna be.
But if anybody's gonna sit up here
and say they didn't think it was gonna be Daisy or Maria,
you guys are liars.
Now, hold on. And what I want to --
What I want to say -- What I --
What I want to say with all of that, though, is that,
like, I remember telling my parents, I was like,
"I don't see it working out with either of them, truthfully."
And, like, one thing that I've tried to, like --
- Then why did you go? MAN: Yeah, then why did you go?
- We knew who it was before we got in the limo, bro.
SAM M.: Because it wasn't -- It wasn't either of them.
It -- It -- It wasn't either of them.
That -- That's why. Because it wasn't either of them.
And Jenn was somebody that I didn't know.
And after two conversations with her, I thought, "Damn,
this girl is legit right here." So yeah,
that was really where that statement came from right there.
I had no disrespect to her, and if it came across like that,
then, once again, I continue to apologize for my delivery
because I know it needs work. - There's things that you think,
and then there's things that you say.
And you should not have said that, period,
'cause that's disrespectful. SAM M.: 100%.
[ applause ]
That's why -- That's why I just said, like,
the -- the delivery of it.
But truthfully, like, I do know the spot, like,
where I came from in all of that right there.
And it wasn't to be disrespectful.
And that's something that, like, I can take from all of this
and truthfully, like, learn from.
JOHN: And I appreciate that you're coming from a place of humility.
You know, we all make mistakes.
I've made mistakes. I'm sure we all have.
I'm -- I'm glad that you are -- you know, seem to be growing
and learning from -- from what went down.
So that's really cool, Really cool to see. MAN: Yeah.
- I appreciate that. All I can do is watch this
and take the mistakes that I made in all of this
and make sure that I can correct them and apply them to the --
you know, the next relationship that -- that stands in front of me.
- I want to thank you for being here. I know it wasn't easy.
But I-I do think you showed some humility,
and I think some people maybe saw a bit
of a different side of you, so I'm really glad you came. SAM M.: Mm.
- Let's hear it for Sam, everyone.
[ cheers and applause ]
Okay. He's fresh off his shocking breakup with Jenn.
But how's he doing now?
Jonathon's gonna join me here onstage.
Make sure you stick around.
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪
- Welcome back, Bachelor Nation. Now, earlier tonight,
you all saw Jonathon leave Hawaii with a broken heart.
Well, he's here with me now to talk about it.
So great seeing you, brother. - Yeah. You too.
- And I know -- I think back to your relationship with Jenn.
I know it just seemed like such a fun
and easy connection right from the beginning. - Yeah.
- And even though it did get more serious as time went on,
I think in the end, it just may have been too little,
too late. - Yeah.
Oh! Oh, my head!
- Oh! JONATHON: Oh!
No. What is this? JONATHON: Jenn.
I'm love-sick.
- When I first see Jonathon, I'm just thinking,
"Who is this guy right now?"
- It's a little hot in here.
- Whoo!
Turns out he's hot and fun.
This is so much fun.
I love this. There could be something there.
One. Two. Three. Four. Five.
JONATHON: Jenn is incredible. - Six. Seven. Eight. Nine. Ten.
JONATHON: The fun, the banter, the jokes,
the rapport are all there.
There's never a dull moment when we're hanging out.
- Oh, it's a... - There you go.
- It's a thing. - No, pull it out. Pull it out.
- Wait, is it this way or this... - There you go. No.
It almost feels like a rom-com.
- I'm gonna do a cartwheel. - Are you?
JONATHON: There's a shared bond over, like,
how fun and how light we look at life.
JENN: Do a cartwheel.
JONATHON: And we have that physical intimacy, as well.
But can we connect on an emotional level?
I have a very hard time fully trusting
that somebody is exactly what they say they are.
And I don't want to give somebody my all
when I don't know what all is inside of them.
- Mm-hmm.
I can see exactly, like, where you're coming from,
but I think it's important to be able to let your guard down
and show your weakness sometimes,
because that is what allows someone to be there for you.
- Yeah. It feels great.
She happens to be on the same ladder that I'm on,
and she just helped me get to the next step.
Jennifer Tran... JENN: Mm-hmm.
...I am falling for you.
Jenn is an amazing, amazing woman.
I can see a future with her.
I can see her. This is beautiful.
JENN: Oh, my God.
JONATHON: I told her from the beginning
I was a bit of a slow burn, but my feelings
are so far ahead of
where I thought they would get from night one.
We're just happy.
I have no doubt in my mind this is my person.
- Marcus.
♪♪
[ Jonathon sniffles ]
JONATHON: I just mad at myself.
I could see an amazing future with this girl.
[ sniffles ]
And I feel like the biggest idiot in the world
because something amazing was right in front of me,
and I was too much of my own enemy just to see it
until I was too late.
of standing in my own way.
[ voice breaking ] I'm just tired
of standing in my own way.
♪♪
- How does it feel watching that back?
- [ clears throat ]
It's hard. It was a beautiful journey.
Amazing moments.
And watching it all come to an end is just...
You know, it's not something that I wanted.
And I missed out on something incredible.
And I regretted not getting there a lot quicker.
- What was it about her
that made you think that it could work out
between the two of you?
- You know, I think from day one, we just had a friendship.
And I think that's what you want.
You want to start as, like, friends.
Like, can you sit there?
Can you have fun with that person?
Can you be in a blank room with nothing else but that person
and enjoy it night in and night out? JESSE: Mm-hmm.
- And there wasn't a dull moment we ever had.
- Mm-hmm. - She listened.
She's so attentive to everything, you know.
She would reassure you on your feelings.
Like, there were things that were unspoken
that I was not even scared -- I was terrified of. JESSE: Mm.
- And she would just pull me to the side. She'd be like,
"Hey, this is okay, you got this."
And then I think it got to a point where she was,
"I'm in love with Marcus."
And Devin said he was in love with her and ours
was just good and comfortable, and that was hard to watch.
And I was sitting there. I was like, "Love is involved.
Like, really, love is involved in both of these relationships.
And we're in this place where we can't go past it."
JESSE: Yeah. -So that -- that was definitely hard to see.
- But I think it's -- it's great that you can watch it back
and -- and make realizations about yourself, too.
You've talked about, "Hey, you know,
the next time I'm in a relationship,
I can try things differently to really be the best version
of myself in that." JONATHON: Mm-hmm.
- Because you are a great guy and you deserve to find love. - Thank you.
- Assuming you're still single. Are you?
Because, you know, there's a certain beach
that's gonna be opening next summer.
[ cheers and applause ]
So I would hereby like to officially extend to you
the very first invite to the beach next summer.
What do you say? MAN: Do it!
- I say I'll see you there. JESSE: Alright.
JONATHON: I'll see you there. -We'll see you in Paradise.
- Yeah!
- Let's go, Jonathon! Let's go!
- Obviously, you know Jenn's gonna be out here later tonight.
How do you feel about talking to her?
- Um, I'm beyond excited to see her. JESSE: Yeah.
JONATHON: You know, I have a lot of love for Jenn.
So when I see her today, you know, I'm just gonna light up.
I'm gonna be so excited to just give her a hug and say hi
and hopefully just tell her I hope she found
exactly what she's looking for. - Oh, that's awesome.
I'm really excited and glad that you both
get to have that -- that moment together.
- Yeah. - Um, thank you so much for being here tonight.
I know it wasn't easy. Alright.
The time has finally come.
He's tall, he's good-looking,
he's charismatic, and he's the Bachelor.
Grant's gonna join me next.
[ cheers and applause ]
But first, there's a new show coming to Hulu
that's already got people talking.
And it's about a group of Mormon influencers known as MomTok.
The show reveals secrets and scandals
that not even their millions of followers know about.
And a couple of those women,
they're actually here with us tonight.
Welcome, ladies. Great seeing you.
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright, so what are we waiting for?
Let's check out this exclusive first look at Hulu's
newest series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
WOMAN: I love the Mormon church,
but there are a lot of rules that we have to follow.
- We were raised to be these housewives
for the men, serving their every desire.
- Have kids by the time you're 21, or in my case, at 16.
-Oh, hell no.
- ♪ Show me what you're working with ♪
- I created MomTok, a group of Mormon moms making TikToks.
It started with Whitney and Mayci, Michaela, and I.
- We are trying to change the stigma of gender roles
in the Mormon culture.
- That's what scares me.
In the church, we have rules for a reason.
- I need you to twerk your ass off.
- ♪ Show me what you're working with ♪
- My goal is just to be able to provide for my family.
- ♪ That's right ♪ - We blew up overnight.
2 million followers, 9 million views.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - It's been crazy for us.
- And then it turned into this whole group
is swinging with each other.
- Wait, what?
MAN: A Mormon swinging scandal has hit Utah.
- Everyone has hooked up with, like, everyone.
MAN: Taylor announced that the group was involved
in soft swinging.
- It was swapping in front of each other,
standing next to each other. WOMAN: Whoa.
- ♪ Lucky, lucky girl ♪
- Now there's a fight for MomTok.
- The group is important to me.
- Being divorced and taking care of two kids
would be kind of tough, so you make the decision.
- There's drama with the husbands,
and it's starting to tear the group apart.
WOMAN: Online, it looks like we're all
the bestest of friends, but we're not.
- Awkward. WOMAN: We're the most devout
out of the whole group. And then there are others.
- In what way do you feel like drinking helps you
be a better mom?
- Oh, my gosh. What is happening right now?
- There's gonna be drama tonight.
There's something in the air.
DISPATCHER: 911. What is your emergency?
MAN: At this time, you're gonna be placed under arrest.
- ♪ Mummy don't know Daddy's getting hot at the Body Shop ♪
♪ Doing something unholy, oh-ee-oh-ee-oh ♪
- There's so many secrets. There's lies, gossip.
- Sometimes fights are necessary.
WOMAN: The gloves are off, baby.
- Hurting so bad. - I'm done. I'm out.
WOMAN: Can the group even survive this?
- There's a whole story that we haven't told anyone.
[ cheers and applause ]
- Hey, there. Welcome back to "The Men Tell All."
Well, he's been backstage all night.
Now it's finally time to bring him out.
Who's ready to see the next Bachelor?
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright, here he is. Ladies and gentlemen,
your next leading man, Grant Ellis!
[ cheers and applause ]
MAN: Let's go!
MAN #2: What's up!
[ both speak indistinctly ]
- Good seeing you again.
- That's right!
[ cheers and applause continue ]
JESSE: Well, congrats, man. - Thank you so much.
- It's great seeing you. You look sharp.
How does it feel to be the next Bachelor?
- It feels great. I'm so excited.
I can't wait to embark on this journey.
Yeah, it's just all so surreal to me,
and I'm just -- I'm just happy. I'm grateful.
- What are your friends and family saying?
What's the response been that you've gotten
since you got announced? - Oh, man.
My friends are happy. My mom is super happy.
My dad is happy. My sister's happy.
Everybody's excited for me.
Everybody's excited for me to find my future wife.
- Sounds like there's a lot of happiness going on right now.
- There's a lot of happiness. - Hey, listen, I get it, man.
Your life must be going a mile a minute right now.
And I know Bachelor Nation cannot wait for you to embark
on your own journey to find love.
But first, let's take a look back at how you got here.
- Let's do it.
JENN: Hello. GRANT: I got something for you.
Ready? ♪ It's nice to meet you ♪
♪ My name is Grant, we'll make all these guys so jealous ♪
♪ 'Cause at the end of this show ♪
♪ We'll change your name to Mrs. Ellis ♪
I'm feeling sparks. Jenn is looking fire.
I came here to find a genuine connection with somebody.
We could be a good team, though. One, two punch.
- We could be a good team.
- I feel like me and Jenn are really gonna get along.
JENN: How beautiful is this? GRANT: It's so beautiful.
JENN: Grant is very much my type.
He's tall. He's handsome. He's charming and funny.
He brings that manly energy.
- Jenn Ellis. That's a nice name, right, Jenn?
- Jenn Ellis? Okay. What about you taking my last name?
- Grant Tran. - Grant Tran.
- I like that.
JENN: That spark is there, and I can be myself with him,
and I love that feeling.
I'm not perfect. I have bad days, and --
- I'm not perfect. You're not perfect.
But that's when you know that it's love
is when you could accept somebody for their imperfection.
So it's like you don't have to be perfect at all.
You know what I'm saying? I'm-a rock with you.
- Thank you. Thank you. - You know? So...
I feel great, because the connection
I have with Jenn has been growing,
and I can see myself falling for her.
- Grant, will you accept this rose?
- Of course.
I see somebody that I could have a life with.
I genuinely think that I'm falling in love with Jenn.
[ sighs ] It's just scary, bro.
MAN: What? Getting feelings?
- Yeah. Like, what makes somebody fall in love, you know?
Don't tell anybody I was crying.
- I won't. I won't. - Keep it between me and you.
Now I know. At least for me.
It's different for everybody, so...
I just want you to know that I am falling in love with you.
And I've only felt like this once before in my life.
And I see a future in you.
I'm talking a lot. Can I get a kiss?
JENN: Mm-hmm.
GRANT: If I was on top of the world earlier,
I'm on top of the moon now, so...
Once I go there, like, I'm all in.
I am falling in love with her.
I wish we could just cut to the end.
You know what I'm saying?
- Jonathon?
GRANT: I feel disappointed.
I'm hurt.
I don't know, man.
I'm confused.
You know, I really have feelings for Jenn.
Good luck, okay?
It hurts not being loved back.
I want a family, you know? I want a wife.
I want kids.
I want to give everything to somebody,
and I want them to give everything to me in return.
And through hell or high water, I'm gonna find my happiness,
and I'm not gonna stop until I do.
[ cheers and applause ]
- Emotional roller coaster, for sure.
GRANT: Yeah, looking back at that,
being able to develop feelings for somebody
in such a short amount of time and them being genuine and real
is something that I didn't -- I didn't expect going into this.
- What was it about Jenn
that had you falling in love with her?
Was there a moment that you realized
that this was something real?
- Yeah, I really appreciated Jenn's ability
to, um, interact with me
and keep the conversation light and happy.
And also, on our one-on-one date
when we -- we had a talk
and I talked about my father and just, I felt
like we really related to each other in that aspect.
And that's the emotional connection
that I was looking for,
and it really took me over the edge
and ultimately, you know, made me fall in love with her.
JESSE: Yeah, I think one of the things
I'll always remember was I think that night in Auckland,
when you were realizing that you were falling in love with her.
You could see it on your face. - Right.
Something about me is I do wear my emotions on my sleeve.
So if I'm happy, you're gonna know.
If I'm angry, you're gonna know. And if I'm in love with you,
you're gonna know, and I'm gonna tell you.
So that's something that I'm gonna carry with me.
- Well, I know for certain
that there are a lot of women out there
that are really excited to get the opportunity to date you.
In fact, since you were announced as the next Bachelor,
there have been over 10,000
new women
who've applied to be on the show.
- Oh, man. JESSE: And that number every day
is going up, and it's growing.
So what is it that you're looking for?
- A kind soul, somebody who's genuine,
somebody who we're able to, either through good or bad,
we're able to sit down and talk about things.
You know, ultimately, I know it's so cliche,
but beauty fades, and I'm looking for what's in here.
So somebody that's gonna treat other people well
and that we could ultimately build together a bond
that's never gonna fade.
- What does preseason training
for The Bachelor look like for you?
- Developing my emotional intelligence.
That's something I'm definitely gonna do.
Continue to build that. And ultimately, yeah,
also doing like 100 pushups a day.
Yeah, you know?
- Get used to showering on-camera.
- Okay.
- Lots of soap.
- Lots of soap, lots of suds. Yeah, I got it.
- Bachelor Nation loves a good lather.
[ cheers and applause ]
I want to open it up to the panel real quick.
Hakeem, I'll ask you, what do you think?
When he got named the new Bachelor,
what was going through your mind?
- I was ecstatic. You guys are getting
the best Bachelor possible.
This guy's been a mentor for me.
He listens to me with my emotions, too,
'cause, you know, I wear my heart on my sleeves,
and he's always that ear that I can always go to.
And honestly, he's a man of God, too.
So he's helped me find God through him, as well.
So I love you to death, man.
GRANT: Thank you. Thank you.
- Having somebody come into this,
you know, he's the second person of color coming into this,
and there's not somebody
that I can imagine representing Bachelor Nation
and representing a person of color better than Grant.
He's gonna do an absolutely amazing job,
and I can't wait to see who he picks.
- I appreciate that. Thank you.
- Well, listen, Grant, congratulations again.
I'm so excited for you, man. I know all of Bachelor Nation,
they cannot wait for your journey to kick off
and get going. Before we let Grant go back
and join the rest of his buddies over here in the panel,
let's hear it one more time for your next Bachelor, Grant!
[ cheers and applause ]
- Thank you so much. - It's gonna be so good, bro.
Alright, I know it's called "The Men Tell All,"
but there is one woman that we need to hear from.
I'm talking about Jenn, of course.
What does she have to say to all these guys?
We're gonna find out in just a minute,
so don't go away.
JESSE: Do you want to date our next Bachelor, Grant?
Apply online at abc.com/casting.
[ cheers and applause ]
Welcome back to The Bachelorette:
"The Men Tell All."
Well, it's already been a dramatic and an emotional night,
but what does Jenn have to say about it all?
I say we bring her out. Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome your Bachelorette, Jenn.
[ cheers and applause ]
JENN: Hello.
[ Jenn and Jesse speaking indistinctly ]
- So good seeing you. Have a seat.
Oh, I've missed you. It's so good seeing you again.
- I've missed you. It's so good seeing you.
- You look stunning, as always. - Thank you.
- So, how does it feel? You're back here.
You're face to face with all these guys
since we got done filming. - Yeah. It's kind of crazy.
I mean, I'm very excited to see you all,
and I just I feel very nostalgic.
It's been such an incredible journey,
and I'm so excited to be here with you guys tonight.
JESSE: Let's embrace that nostalgia.
I think we got to give these guys a lot of credit,
'cause I think so many of them, they really opened up to you.
They were vulnerable for you.
What did that mean to you throughout this journey?
- So much. I mean, to have a group of men
who were so brave in being vulnerable
and taking this process so seriously,
I truly feel so, so lucky to have been in this journey
with all of you, and I wouldn't take it back for the world.
- This is the first time you're seeing Jonathon
since your breakup in Hawaii. - Yes.
Hi, Jonathon. JONATHON: Hi, Jenn.
First of all, remember the dress list that we had?
JENN: Yes. - This is number one now.
- Thank you. Wow. - For sure.
If you guys didn't know,
she's had incredible dresses throughout the season.
She had this purple one that was number one.
Now it's number two. White one is number three now.
Green is number one. - I'm glad you still remember.
- But no, I just wanted to thank you so much
for helping me get to a place
that I didn't think I could get to so quickly.
You know, that epiphany that I had overnight,
while I was too late, and, yeah, it sucked incredibly,
but I'd never been able to come to a conclusion
about somebody so quick in my life.
And the fact that I got to that point with you in a night,
not only was I proud of myself for getting there that fast,
but I was just so happy that I
had the chance to even meet you, that you had that effect on me.
So thank you so much for everything.
- I really cherish those moments that we had together.
You have such a big, big heart.
You bring a smile into any room that you walk into,
and I'm happy to have crossed paths with you.
- Thank you so much. JENN: Yeah.
- Sam N., I know Jenn was your first girlfriend.
- Yeah. [ laughter ]
JESSE: Was also your first breakup.
MAN: Wait, wait. JESSE: So how does it feel
to see your ex for the first time?
- I'm very proud to have her as, you know, my first girlfriend.
It was hard for me when it came to emotional maturity,
but she was there holding my hand essentially
the entire time. And she said it best, you know?
I have a lot of love to give, and, you know, it's gonna --
We're gonna find that person one day.
- Yeah. I will say I appreciated
every conversation that we had together.
And to be a part of your self-growth journey
like I truly saw it, that was really special for me.
And I know you're gonna find your second girlfriend
to have that first kiss with.
And I only see good things for you.
I'm so excited to see you thrive, truly.
- Really happy for you, as well. Thank you.
- I think one of the things I'll always remember
about your journey, there was a lot of drama.
JENN: Yeah. JESSE: You got pretty frustrated
when Thomas N. pulled Devin to have a confrontation with him
instead of actually talk with you.
- I've never seen a man pull another man
to talk instead of me. That was -- It was different.
I truly felt disappointed in that moment,
because I had wished that you'd just pulled me aside
and talked to me, because you could have settled the drama
later on. - Yeah.
JENN: What I do really want to say to you
is I appreciated so much
the conversation that we had on the first night,
being able to bond on our backgrounds
and our immigrant families.
That was such a special, special moment for me,
and I truly wish that, I don't know,
had you kept your focus on me,
like, maybe the journey would have turned out
a little bit different for you.
- Yeah, I 100% agree.
If I could do anything back,
it would be to not leave you alone
and to deal with Devin later,
because I left you in a stranded place by yourself.
And I told you it came from a place of passion,
but that was on me. And if I could go back
and do it again, it was not leave you alone.
- Obviously, you gave out your first impression rose to Sam M.
What was it about him that drew you in?
- Yeah, you know, we had a very genuine conversation.
And for me, I kept thinking back to somebody
who made me feel very comfortable.
And in that moment, it was Sam.
- Yeah, and you mentioned, though, soon after,
started feeling some red flags when it came to Sam.
So what were the alarm bells going off in the head there?
- There were a lot of alarm bells.
There were a few red flags I was adding up in my head.
But it really was so apparent to me
when I realized that this man and I didn't talk.
Like, we didn't have any conversations,
and he didn't really know me at all at the end of the day.
Hi, Sam.
Um, so, I'm gonna say this
in words that you're gonna understand.
So I'm gonna keep the main thing the main thing here.
And you know what? I wasn't upset
that you didn't know how to describe love.
Clearly, we're on very different emotional, intellectual levels.
That's fine. What I was upset about,
though, was the fact that I watched this back
and saw how you interacted with all of these men,
huffing and puffing your chest everywhere,
the blatant disrespect to everybody.
And then on top of that, our relationship --
Everything was about you the entire time,
how you were feeling in the moment, what you wanted to do.
Everything resolved around you.
And you watched that back.
And instead of growing and learning from that,
you decided to double down on that
and have your friends and family go out online
and defend your honor when you're a grown man.
And instead of taking accountability for your actions,
you decided to blame it on the producers,
the edit, the TV show, whatever it was.
And at the end of the day,
the man that I saw on TV was exactly the man
that I sat across from the entire journey.
[ cheers and applause ]
The thing is, I want you to be better from this.
But if you don't take a step back and look at what you saw
and take accountability for your actions and grow and learn,
then I feel very, very sorry for whoever you end up with,
because this delusion world that you're living in right now
and this denial is not gonna work for anybody.
[ cheers and applause ]
- Yeah, I think I came up here
and took a lot of accountability, uh, truthfully,
I definitely lost myself in some of those moments right there,
and I wish that I could go back and redo them, truthfully.
You saw walls that I had built up around my heart
that you saw before me.
And that's something that I'm, like, forever grateful for,
and that's something that I will be able to take
towards, you know, my next partner.
And, you know, for that,
I really just want to say thank you.
- I truly hope that you mean that
and you're not just saying that to say that,
because I do -- I do want the best for you.
JESSE: Okay. - Thank you.
- Alright, Grant. Is there anything
that you learned from Jenn that you're gonna take with you
on your journey as the Bachelor?
- Of course. The thing I'm gonna take from Jenn
is to stay true to yourself. And when you doubt yourself,
just know that you're doing this for love
and you're doing this for what you deserve.
And ultimately, I'm so proud of you.
I want the best for you, and I want you to have that love
that you are looking for.
You're a role model, and I'm happy for you.
I'm proud. JENN: Thank you so much.
Thank you. I mean, first, congratulations.
- Thank you. - Honestly, nobody deserves it
more than you. Throughout the entire journey,
you were so yourself,
and you opened your heart up truly since day one.
I know you're going to do amazing things on your journey,
and I'm so excited for that.
- Thank you.
JESSE: Alright, Jenn, don't go anywhere.
We've got some more to talk about.
Plus, some Bachelor Nation fan favorites are here,
and you don't want to miss the juicy surprises
that we've got in store. Stick around.
- Welcome back to "The Men Tell All."
Of course I'm here with our Bachelorette, Jenn.
And a little later tonight, we're gonna get a sneak peek
at the truly shocking and unprecedented way
her journey ends. But of course,
that's not the only thing about this season
that's unprecedented.
Jenn, of course, you're the very first
Asian American Bachelorette.
- Yes.
[ cheers and applause ]
JESSE: I've heard you say that in the past,
you've mostly seen Asian American women
in supportive roles.
- Absolutely, especially in the media.
We've always been cast to fit some kind of stereotype.
We're the docile Asian,
the nerdy Asian, the quiet Asian, whatever it is.
But we're never the main character.
We never have our own story.
It's always something to be disposed of,
something to fill space, right?
I've never seen it celebrated before.
And in terms of supporting roles,
I've also seen it growing up, you know?
Vietnamese culture is so deeply rooted in patriarchy.
That's the -- That's been passed on for generations.
You know, my dad was the head of the household.
He made all the decisions. He had a voice,
whereas my mom really didn't. And from that, I've learned
that I don't want to be in a relationship like that.
And she doesn't want me to be in a relationship like that,
because she knows that we can hold our own,
we can take up space, and we can have a voice.
So it's moments like that where I feel
like this whole journey has really come together for me.
- And what's the response been
from the Vietnamese American community
since you were named The Bachelorette?
- Absolutely amazing.
I've been so overwhelmed by all of the support.
And everyone's been like,
"We've never seen Vietnamese food on TV before.
We've never seen the Vietnamese language
being spoken on TV before."
And I understood what that meant to everybody,
because growing up, I've always wanted that.
It's like this community just all of a sudden came alive,
and people felt a sense of belonging.
And knowing that I was able to make some people feel
a little bit less alone,
it brings it full circle for me,
and it's been a healing experience.
JESSE: Yeah.
JENN: I mean, I knew that when I took on the role,
I was going to ruffle some feathers
within the Vietnamese community.
And my mom probably would have preferred
if I didn't become the Bachelorette.
Dating multiple men, intimacy, kissing, all this stuff,
like, that's all very, very private.
And it's not something to be put on display, especially on TV.
And for her to be so traditionally Vietnamese,
it is difficult for her to watch that,
'cause that's not something she would want for herself.
And so we have hard conversations every day,
but I'm so happy
that I was able to be my most authentic self in this journey
and show people that you can be a blend of both cultures,
and that's gonna be unique to yourself,
however you want to embody that.
- Yeah. Well, when I think back on your journey,
it was so transformational. That's how it felt to me.
It was like a metamorphosis in some ways.
- Yeah. JESSE: Jenn sitting
in that chair right now... - Oh, gosh.
- ...what would you tell Jenn from night one?
JENN: I would tell Jenn from night one
that it's okay to express emotion,
to be your most vulnerable self whenever you feel like it.
And it doesn't even have to be a sad emotion.
Whether you're angry, you're happy, you're distraught,
you want to be mean, whatever it is, like,
everybody has them, you know? It's okay to express those.
It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you.
It means that you're working on them.
- It's hard to imagine that your journey really started
right here on this very stage,
when you were announced to be the next Bachelorette
by your friend and our last Bachelorette, Charity Lawson.
And Charity is actually live in our audience
with us here tonight.
She's here with her amazing fiancé, Dotun.
[ cheers and applause ]
Charity, Dotun, great seeing you both.
How we doing? - We're doing good. Yeah.
- Well, Charity, obviously you've been watching Jenn
on her journey. How you think she's doing so far?
- Jenn, I think you're absolutely crushing it.
And it's been phenomenal just watching your journey back
just like the rest of America. I've seen a lot of growth.
I just want to say I'm really proud of you, and I hope
that everything you've come into this journey wanting,
you've achieved.
Just wishing you the absolute best.
- Thank you so, so, so much. It's so good to see you.
- Well, Charity, I want to ask you and Dotun
what's going on in your lives now?
- We're living in Brooklyn. We absolutely love it.
We're in the heat of wedding planning.
That's obviously a mountain that we're trying to climb,
slowly but surely. But it's going good.
So we're just living life and still in love.
- I know you're also traveling together,
because I saw some photos of the two of you in Greece.
It looked amazing. - Yes, we finally got there,
and it was the best time.
Dotun did get sick, though, for part of the trip.
He got the flu, which was a little bit bummed out,
but we still made the most of the trip, so, yeah.
- Man, I gotta say, that is no way
to start the next chapter of your lives together.
- Not quite. - Not quite.
We're working on it.
JESSE: So, our friends at ABC
have put together a little surprise for you.
ABC is sending you guys back to Greece...
- Shut up. JESSE: ...for what will
hopefully this time really be
the vacation of your dreams.
Charity, Dotun, enjoy it.
You both deserve it. Have so much fun.
Let's hear it for Charity and Dotun, everybody.
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright. Jenn. JENN: Yes.
- Don't go anywhere, because when we come back,
we've got bloopers.
That's right. Don't go away.
- Welcome back, Bachelor Nation.
Well, it's been a really fun night.
And it's about to get a whole lot more fun, because,
yes, you know what time it is.
- It's blooper time!
- Roll the tape!
- I love all you guys. You guys are amazing men.
I'm so happy for you, Spencer.
I mean, I'm like, man, I wish that was me.
It's like a tug of war that I'm playing with myself.
[ laughter, men speaking indistinctly ]
- Keep those thoughts to yourself, Hakeem.
- Can we cut that one out, please?
- No, leave that [bleep] in.
- Every decision you're making just gives me so much confidence
in how I feel about you.
It's been like a little bit of a liberating feeling
a little bit. Yeah. JENN: Right? It is --
[ alarm blaring ]
Oh, no. If you guys are messing up my time, I swear.
JENN: D. Dawg. D. Dawg.
- On camera, D. Dawg?
- John Boy? J. Boy? Thon Boy?
My little medium king, where'd you go?
- To a woman that always puts a smile on my face.
- Wow, Jer Bear.
- Jer Bear? MAN: That's cute.
- Jer Bear! Jer Bear. Jer Bear.
It's always a good time with Jer Bear.
Said today was Jenn and Jer Bear day --
[ fart ]
- Wouldn't be a rose ceremony if I didn't fart.
- You really can't control yourself.
- No.
MAN: Can we do a toast?
- I'm just happy to be here. Let's vibe. Let's party.
Let's get it. MAN: Yeah. Oh, cheers.
- I'm not drinking this [bleep] though. This is ass.
- Bro, it's terrible. AUSTIN: This is awful, man.
MAN: Can I get a different drink?
JENN: I don't think I like this.
This feels so wrong in so many ways.
My blister hurts. JONATHON: It's gross.
Oh, my God. Your Band-Aid's coming off.
JENN: Don't look at the blister.
Today we're at the local -- No, we're not.
I'm such a form of -- I'm such --
Well, we are at the historic theater -- [Bleep] hell.
- I'm gonna do whatever I can to, you know, impress Jess,
so -- Jess. Oh, my gosh. Jenn.
JONATHON: Ooh.
- What? - There's a bee.
- Oh, my God! Aah! No!
MAN: Beautiful. - Whoa!
[ animal chirps ] - Oh [bleep]
What the [bleep] is that? What the [bleep] is that?
- Make sure to zoom in on that turd there.
MAN: Yeah, that's right.
[ Jenn laughs ]
- Oh.
[ Jonathon speaks indistinctly ]
[ objects crashing ]
- Ooh!
MAN: Oh, God.
- Well, we really did share a lot of laughs this season.
Oh, and there was -- There was one moment
that, I don't know, I wouldn't exactly call a blooper,
but I thought that it was very, very funny.
And it involved a man and a spider.
Let's roll the tape. JENN: Oh.
- So, so far, doing this photo shoot,
we got guys having a owl.
Somebody had a sweet, little, furry animal that was so cute.
I'm thinking, give me, like, a koala bear.
XAVIER: Your model is Goldie.
- Whoo!
[ laughter ]
Whoo! Whoo, whoo, whoo!
JENN: Is she venomous? XAVIER: Not venomous, okay?
Or mildly venomous. Eh.
HAKEEM: Oh. JENN: It's okay.
Okay, okay. Oh [bleep]
XAVIER: You're doing it, man. You're doing it. Hey, relax.
JENN: You got it!
HAKEEM: I'm not about the moving.
That [bleep] moving. JENN: It's okay.
XAVIER: It can sometimes run up your arm.
If it does happen, just stay still.
- Don't put that [bleep] on my neck!
Don't put that [bleep] on my neck!
JENN: It's not on your neck. It's not on your neck.
- I might have to just scoop it up.
- Where is it? Oh, oh, oh. - It's not...
- Okay. - You're good.
- Good job, man. - Oh, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
- Hakeem, what was the deal with that, man?
- Honestly, I blacked out. I was squeezing her hand to death.
I almost broke her hand. - That was a tight grip.
Very tight grip. - Which I am so sorry, but --
- Don't worry. - Yeah, you comforted me
very well then, so I appreciate you. Shout-out you for that.
But never again. Never again.
- Never again? HAKEEM: Never on that.
- Okay. You know, Paradise is coming back next summer.
And I'm just saying, in the off-chance
that you were going to be there,
there could be bugs. - Nah, man. Come on.
JESSE: Listen, you might see one.
So I had this idea of how you might best prepare yourself.
- Nah, man.
JENN: What's going on?
- Hakeem, have a seat over here for me.
- Where?
JENN: You got it. You're so strong.
- You got this. - You're so strong.
You got this. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no. - I'd like to offer you this.
- No! No, no. What is that?
HANDLER: This is the world's largest spider.
- Aw, hell no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We don't gotta -- No. MAN: Yeah, no, that's big.
HAKEEM: It's different. It's different now.
No, I'm not doing this for no reason.
-I mean, it'll be on your crotch. Just put down there,
and we'll put it right -- See where your tie is?
- I was doing it for you that time. Why?
- I -- JENN: Do it for yourself.
- It'll be fun. Trust me. You can do this.
- [ chanting ] Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem.
CROWD: [ chanting ] Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem!
- Alright, come on, come on. We got it. How we gonna do this?
- I'm just gonna tickle her bum,
and she'll go onto your lap, and that's it.
- Oh [bleep] HANDLER: What?
HAKEEM: Just put it on my legs.
Don't put it on my body. Please, bro. Please.
HANDLER: Okay, but don't move your legs then.
- I won't move my legs. - Okay, don't move them.
- But grab that [bleep] if I say grab that [bleep] okay?
- Just be nice and calm.
- Oh! [Bleep]
[ audience screaming ]
[ grunting ]
[ cheers and applause ]
MAN: Whoo! MAN #2: Oh, God.
[ men shouting indistinctly ]
HANDLER: It's not so bad, is it? HAKEEM: No, no, it's good.
HANDLER: I'm gonna pick her up now.
HAKEEM: Okay, cool. HANDLER: Yeah. Just relax.
MAN: Like that. MAN #2: Okay.
HANDLER: Everything's fine.
- Aah.
Aah.
- Everything's fine. - Aah, get that --
MAN: Oh, my God. HAKEEM: Please.
Get that!
[ cheers and applause ]
- [ chanting ] Hakeem! Hakeem! Hakeem! Hakeem!
[ indistinct conversations ] - You did it, baby.
- Well, Hakeem, you're clearly not afraid to take risks,
and everybody loves you.
So if you're still single, I want to extend to you
the second official invitation to Paradise.
What do you say? - Absolutely.
JESSE: Yeah!
[ cheers and applause ]
Alright, when we come back,
we've got an exclusive first look at
the groundbreaking season finale of The Bachelorette.
Everybody's gonna be talking about this one.
We're gonna be right back.
- Welcome back to The Bachelorette:
"The Men Tell All." It has been such an incredible night,
but we're not done yet.
Next week, Jenn's trailblazing journey comes to a conclusion
that everybody is gonna be talking about.
So how is this all gonna end for her?
Well, obviously I can't give too much away, but I will say this.
You are going to be on the edge of your seat the entire time.
Here's a sneak peek at Jenn's final days in Hawaii.
- I'm feeling so lucky and excited.
I truly am in love with Marcus and Devin.
I never thought that I could love one person, let alone two,
so I have a really big decision to make.
- Hi, you. - Hello, hello.
Devin is constantly someone who lifts me up no matter what.
- You are the most important thing in my life.
I love the thought of forever with you.
JENN: With Marcus, he gives me safety, gives me comfortability.
- Jenn has made me realize that I'm well on my way
to find true love.
JENN: I'm so excited about each of these men,
but I've never introduced someone to my family before.
- You know, I'm the protective brother,
and I want what's best for her. - Absolutely. Absolutely.
You know, I would really love to have your blessing
to propose to her.
- I'm definitely not gonna give the blessing.
DEVIN: That scares me that they may not see it with Jenn and I.
JENN: Talking to my mom, I am worried.
- Are you really fall in love with Jenn yet or not?
- I want to get there for her.
- So you're not ready for engage, huh?
MARCUS: I didn't think that
that conversation was gonna go the way that it went.
- Your history with people who are emotionally unavailable,
how long are you willing to wait?
- My brother's right. I don't want to repeat history.
- As scared as I am, this week has been a lot of doubts
and back and forth in my head.
JENN: The certainty in our relationship
is just dwindling down.
[ crying ] I'm just tired of it. I don't want to feel this way.
- I'm struggling.
- We're running out of time. - I know.
[ voice breaking ] I know that I love you.
I don't want to give up on us.
JENN: I really need to follow my heart today.
- You sure you want to do this?
JENN: What I'm about to do today
is something that I never thought that I would ever do.
But I have to do what's right for me.
I can't let you propose to me.
[ cheers and applause ]
- Alright, well, join me next Tuesday --
It's not Monday, but Tuesday.
That's September 3rd -- for the three-hour live finale
that promises to be one of the most surprising
and emotional endings in Bachelorette history.
Big question. Will Jenn finally find
the ferocious love that she's been after?
This is the jaw-dropping conclusion
that you've all been waiting for.
So, I want to say a big thank-you again
to all the guys who joined us here tonight...
[ cheers and applause ]
...to our Bachelor Nation family...
to our next Bachelor, Grant...
and of course, to the amazing Jenn.
You're just the best.
Obviously a big thanks to our studio audience.
For everybody here and to all of you,
Bachelor Nation, I'm Jesse Palmer.
We'll see you next Tuesday! Good night.
[ cheers and applause ]
♪♪