>> START THE CLOCK.
♪ ♪
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THANK YOU.
OUR LAST SHOW BEFORE THE BREAK.
OH, MY GOSH.
EXCITING, I KNOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE]
THANK YOU, PEOPLE.
I LOVE IT.
LOVE YOU FOR DOING IT.
COMING IN HERE -- I KNOW, I WISH
I COULD USE MY CATCHPHRASE.
[LAUGHTER]
I KNOW WHY YOU ARE HAPPY.
BUT I CAN'T EVEN TODAY.
THIS IS A WEEK WHERE WE FOUND
OUT THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT
ALMOST PULLED OFF HIS COUP BY
USING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OF
THE COUNTRY ITSELF AND THAT IS
NOT EVEN THE WORST NEWS WE HAD.
[LAUGHTER]
THE SUPREME COURT HAS BEEN VERY
BUSY THIS WEEK.
TODAY, THEY OVERTURNED
ROE VS. WADE, SO...
NO REACTION.
OKAY.
[LAUGHTER]
WELL, IF YOU'RE KEEPING SCORE AT
HOME IT IS GUNS 1, WOMEN
NOTHING.
[APPLAUSE]
IT'S FUNNY, ON THE VERY WEAK --
VERY DAY, I THINK, WHERE THE
CONGRESS FINALLY PASSED I THINK
THE FIRST GUN CONTROL LAW IN 30
YEARS --
[APPLAUSE]
WELL...
THE SUPREME COURT SAID "HOLD MY
BEER."
[LAUGHTER]
BECAUSE THEY STRUCK DOWN A
NEW YORK LAW ABOUT CARRYING
GUNS, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR BODY
WHEN YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE, SO
EVERYONE NOW CAN BE STRAPPED AT
ALL TIMES IN PUBLIC.
WOW, WELCOME TO RIGHT-WING
AMERICA, WHERE IF YOU WANT TO
END A YOUNG LIFE, YOU HAVE TO
SHOOT THEM.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
BUT I GOT TO -- I GOT TO GIVE IT
TO THE CONSERVATIVES.
THEY'VE ALWAYS GOT THIS.
THE SUPREME COURT IS THE PRIZE.
THEY KEEP THEIR EYE ON THE
PRIZE, RIGHT?
I MEAN, FIRST MERRICK GARLAND,
THAT WHOLE THING WITH
McCONNELL, THEN TRUMP GETS IN
OFFICE AND APPOINTS THREE OF
THESE JUSTICES WERE APPOINTED BY
TRUMP.
TRUMP IS OUT OF OFFICE, BUT HIS
AWFULNESS LINGERS ON.
HE IS LIKE A FIGHT WITH A BAD
HAIR.
[LAUGHTER]
AND I JUST...
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL YOU
PURISTS ON THE LEFT WHO COULD
NOT BRING YOURSELF TO VOTE FOR
HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE SHE SAID
SUPER PREDATOR IN 1996, ENJOY
GETTING SUPER PREGNANT IN 2022.
[APPLAUSE]
AND PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT
THIS TODAY, THE ABORTION RULING,
HE SAID HE HAD BEEN BRACING FOR
THIS IMMINENT REVERSAL FOR QUITE
SOME TIME, AND HE ACTUALLY LAST
WEEK WHEN HE FELL OFF THE BIKE
IN TEXAS, DID YOU SEE THAT?
HE WAS JUST -- I WAS JUST
DEMONSTRATING HOW A WOMAN CAN
GET RID OF A BABY.
[AUDIENCE REACTS]
[APPLAUSE]
OH, IT'S GOING TO BE A FUN
AMERICA WE ARE GOING TO LIVE IN.
VERY DIFFERENT AMERICA.
NOW, WHEN YOU ASK A DRUG DEALER
IF HE IS HOLDING, IT WILL BE
ABOUT THE MORNING-AFTER PILL.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
OH, YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING.
THE SCARIEST PART OF THIS,
CLARENCE THOMAS, WHO OF COURSE
IS PART OF THE SIX JUSTICES WHO
VOTED TO OVERTURN ROE VS. WADE,
HE WROTE ANOTHER OPINION,
JOINING THE MAJORITY, BUT ALSO
SAYING, WE ARE NOT DONE YET,
BASICALLY.
HE SAID, WATCH OUT, NOW, THEY
ARE GOING TO GO AFTER BIRTH
CONTROL.
THEY ARE GOING TO GO AFTER
GAY RIGHTS.
HE SEEMS TO WANT TO REVERSE ALL
E SOCIAL ADVANCES WE HAVE HAD
IN THE LAST 50 YEARS.
EVERYTHING EXCEPT INTERRACIAL
MARRIAGE.
I DON'T KNOW, SOMEHOW THAT ONE
SLIP THROUGH.
[APPLAUSE]
OH, NO.
WE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN TWO
VERY DISTINCT AMERICAS.
WELL, IT IS GOING TO BE LIKE
WITH WEED.
YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT LEGAL IN
EVERY STATE.
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME
THING WITH ABORTION, YOU HAVE TO
BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT STATE
YOU ARE IN, BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU
GET STONED.
[LAUGHTER]
I DO.
AND BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU GET
BONED.
[APPLAUSE]
OH, YEAH.
IT'S GOING TO BE STATE-BY-STATE.
IF YOU ARE IN LOUISIANA, THE
SLOGAN IS "WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
WOMB, STAYS IN THE WOMB."
[LAUGHTER]
CALIFORNIA, IT'S GOING TO BE
"COME PREGNANT, LEAVE HAPPY."
[APPLAUSE]
BUT WE CAN'T FORGET, THIS WAS
ALSO THE WEEK WHERE WE HAD MORE
HEARINGS FOR THE JANUARY 6TH
HEARINGS ABOUT THE ATTEMPT TO
OVERTURN THE ELECTION, AND IT IS
PRETTY AMAZING.
TRUMP'S PLAN, DID YOU SEE THIS,
THIS ALL CAME OUT THIS WEEK,
TRYING TO SUBVERT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT, HIS PLAN WAS TO
SECRETLY REPLACE BIDEN ELECTORS
WITH TRUMP ELECTORS.
AN IDEA HE GOT FROM AN AD FOR
FOLDERS.
[APPLAUSE]
AND SOME OF THE TESTIMONY, JUST
RIVETING, FROM THESE PEOPLE WHO
ARE ALMOST ALL REPUBLICANS,
TESTIFYING ABOUT THIS.
ONE OF THEM WAS AN ELECTION
OFFICIAL IN GEORGIA, JUST TRYING
TO DO HER JOB, NAMED SHANE MOSS.
SHE GOT SO MANY DEATH THREATS
JUST FOR DOING HER JOB, SHE HAD
TO QUIT HER JOB AND GO INTO
HIDING, WHAT REPUBLICANS CALL
PLAN A.
[APPLAUSE]
DID YOU SEE THIS GUY, RUSTY
BOWERS?
NO ONE WATCHES THE NEWS AT MY
SHOW?
OKAY, ANYWAY.
ANYWAY, TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT FOR
ABOUT FOUR YEARS, KIDS.
[LAUGHTER]
ANYWAY, RUSTY BOWERS -- [LAUGHS]
HE IS THE ARIZONA OFFICIAL, A
DYED IN THE WOOL REPUBLICAN,
LOVE TRUMP, THOUGHT HE DID
EVERYTHING GREAT EXCEPT WHEN
TRUMP ASKED HIM TO THROW THE
ELECTION, HE SAID THAT, I CANNOT
DO.
HE SAID, MY FAITH WILL NOT ALLOW
IT.
THE NEXT DAY HE SAID, IF TRUMP
RUNS AGAIN, I'D VOTE FOR HIM.
PROVING, AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID,
FAITH IS BULLSHIT.
OKAY, WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW.
WE HAVE KATIE AND
ANDREW SULLIVAN.
BUT FIRST UP, SHE IS A COLUMNIST
WITH "THE WASHINGTON POST," THE
AUTHOR OF "RETHINKING SEX: A
PROVOCATION," CHRISTINE EMBA IS
HERE WITH US.
[APPLAUSE]
HELLO.
GREAT TO MEET YOU.
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
PLEASURE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, YOU ARE HERE ON
AN INTERESTING DAY, WHEN THE
ABORTION RULING CAME OUT, SO I'M
GOING TO ASK YOU RIGHT ABOUT
THAT, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ARE
YOUR THOUGHTS?
WHERE WAS YOUR HEAD TODAY?
>> Christine: CRAZY DAY TO BE
ON THE SHOW TALKING ABOUT SEX.
>> Bill: SUPREME COURT IS
RETHINKING SEX, THAT IS THE NAME
OF YOUR BOOK, THEY ARE, DON'T DO
IT.
>> Christine: WE WERE WARNED
THIS WOULD HAPPEN WHEN THE DRAFT
WAS LEAKED, BUT WE WERE STILL
SHOCKED THE COURT WOULD
BASICALLY TOTALLY OVERRULE THE
GENERAL WILL OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, TRUST IN THE COURTS IS
AT AN ALL-TIME LOW AND IT IS
DEFINITELY GOING TO NOSEDIVE NO
NOW.
>> Bill: WILL IT CHANGE THE
LIVES OF A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU
KNOW, YOU THINK?
>> Christine: YOU KNOW, I
DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL BECAUSE
I THINK WOMEN WHO ARE LIVING IN
MAJOR URBAN CENTERS, I'M FROM
WASHINGTON, D.C., WHO ARE
WEALTHY AND HAVE RESOURCES WILL
ALWAYS BE ABLE TO GET AN
ABORTION, FRANKLY.
>> Bill: ESPECIALLY SINCE IT
IS DONE NOW BY A PILL.
>> Christine: YEAH.
I AM MORE WORRIED FOR WOMEN WHO
ARE POOR, WHO DON'T HAVE THE
RESOURCES, WHO LIVE IN ALL OF
THESE STATES WHERE TRIGGER LAWS
ARE GOING TO BE TAKING AWAY
THEIR RIGHTS IMMEDIATELY.
I THINK IT IS KIND OF BACKWARDS,
RIGHT?
>> Bill: IT IS INTERESTING THE
COUNTRY IS MOVING IN TWO VERY
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
YOU ARE HERE TO PLUG A BOOK,
LET'S DO IT.
I'M FASCINATED BY THIS AND BUY
YOUR BOOK, SPECIFICALLY.
I MEAN, "RETHINKING SEX."
YOU CANNOT EVEN BROACH THE
SUBJECT ABOUT "RETHINKING SEX"
IN THE YEAR 202022 WITHOUT FOR
INTRODUCING IDEA TECHNOLOGY
APPEARED >> Christine:
ABSOLUTELY.
>> Bill: I'VE SET IT ON THE
SHOW, THE THING THAT REALLY
CHANGES HUMANS IS TECHNOLOGY,
FROM THE WHEEL, TO THE COTTON
GIN, TO THE iPHONE, HUMANS
JUST CAN'T RESIST, YOU KNOW,
TECHNOLOGY GETS TWO PARTS OF US
THAT ARE GREEDY OR SELFISH OR
PART OF OUR LIVES OR BRAIN, WE
ARE JUST NOT THAT ADVANCED,
AND WE CAN'T RESIST.
FROM WHEN I WAS DATING, THE IDEA
OF DATING, MOST PEOPLE DON'T
DATE, MEET SOMEBODY IN PERSON.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY AFRAID OF IT.
IT'S THREATENING.
IF A GUY COMES UP TO YOU IN A
COFFEE SHOP.
BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MEET THEM
OVER THE PHONE FIRST.
[LAUGHTER]
RIGHT?
AM I WRONG ABOUT THIS?
>> Christine: I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT IS TRUE.
[APPLAUSE]
SO, I THINK YOU ARE ONTO
SOMETHING THERE, BUT IT IS A
LITTLE MIXED, YOU ACTUALLY.
YES, MY GENERATION HAS A LOT OF
SORT OF ANXIETY ABOUT TALKING TO
PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE.
BUT SOME OF IT FEELS A LITTLE
WARRANTED.
YOU KNOW, IN "RETHINKING SEX,"
INTERVIEWED THIS ONE YOUNG GUY
WHO TALKED ABOUT HOW HE WOULD
ASK SOMEONE OUT AT WORK, BUT HE
SAID IT WAS LIKE HANDING SOMEONE
A LOADED SHOTGUN.
>> Bill: RIGHT.
>> Christine: BECAUSE HE
THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE READ AS
HARASSMENT, AND AFTER THE PAST
COUPLE OF YEARS, HE WAS LIKE, I
DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GUY WHO
IS ACTUALLY A CONSCIENTIOUS
PERSON.
HE IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
THING.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO GET IN
TROUBLE.
IT IS JUST THAT THE NORMS ARE SO
UNCLEAR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING
COULD BE A PROBLEM.
SO YOU GO TO A DATING APP,
RIGHT, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE SIGNED
UP TO BE ON A DATING APP, YOU
KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR DATES,
SO YOU CAN ASK THEM OUT --
>> Bill: WELL, THE MEN ARE
LOOKING FOR SEX.
[LAUGHTER]
RIGHT?
>> Christine: THEY ARE LOOKING
FOR SOMETHING ROMANTIC IN
NATURE.
>> Bill: KNOW...
NO, AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
THE WOMEN ARE LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING ROMANTIC IN NATURE.
THE NATURE OF HUMANS HAS NOT
CHANGED IN 50 YEARS SINCE I
STARTED.
I SWEAR TO GOD IT HASN'T.
I KNOW SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED
AND IT IS GREAT, WE ARE ALL MORE
FREE TO BE WHO WE REALLY ARE,
NOT EVERYBODY IS JUST
HETEROSEXUAL.
MOST PEOPLE ARE HETEROSEXUAL.
AND OF THOSE, WOMEN STILL WANT
ROMANCE.
AND MEN WANT SEX.
THEY MAY WANT ROMANCE, TOO.
PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT.
[SCATTERED LAUGHTER]
BUT LET'S GO BACK TO THIS GUY AT
THE OFFICE WAS AFRAID TO GO UP
TO THE GIRL, WHERE DO YOU MOSTLY
PUT THE BLAME FOR THAT?
BECAUSE THAT IS A TRAGEDY.
FOR BOTH OF THEM.
>> Christine: IT IS A TRAGEDY
FOR BOTH OF THEM.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
FEELS SO UNFORTUNATE ABOUT THIS
IS BOTH MEN AND WOMEN WANT TO
CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER.
>> Bill: RIGHT.
>> Christine: BOTH PEOPLE WANT
TO MEET AND IN FACT, THERE ARE
SO MANY WOMEN WHO WISH THAT THEY
COULD BE ASKED OUT IN PERSON,
MEET SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH
A MEDIUM THAT IS NOT SORT OF
SWIPING LEFT AND RIGHT UNTIL THE
END OF YOUR DAYS.
SO, THERE IS A LACK OF
CONNECTION ON BOTH SIDES THAT IS
HURTING BOTH PEOPLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF
THIS DOES FEEL LIKE A LITTLE BIT
OF A BACKLASH TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT
FELT LIKE AN OVERREACH OF THE
ME TOO MOVEMENT SOMETIMES.
TO BE CLEAR, THAT MOVEMENT WAS
REALLY NECESSARY, BUT AGAIN, IT
UPSET A LOT OF NORMS, AND
POST-SEXUAL REVOLUTION, THE
NORMS WERE ALREADY UNCLEAR, WITH
SEX SEEMINGLY ALWAYS ON THE
TABLE, YOU KNOW, BOTH WOMEN
COULD BE AFRAID, AND NOW MEN
EXPECTED TOO MUCH FROM SOME.
>> Bill: AND THAT CERTAINLY IS
VALID.
I'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE
TECHNOLOGY, THOUGH, AS THE MAIN
THING.
BECAUSE YOU GAVE SOMETHING TO
MEN WHO WERE GOING TO BE LAZY BY
NATURE.
RIGHT?
[SCATTERED LAUGHTER]
I MEAN, YOU PUT PORN -- I MEAN,
PORN, I HAVE BEEN A LIBERTINE MY
WHOLE LIFE, BUT I HAVE ALWAYS
SAID, PORN, MODERN PORN, IS NOT
BENIGN.
IT IS NOT BENIGN.
I MEAN, IT IS GROSS.
I DON'T GET IT.
IT'S NOT MY GENERATION.
I MEAN, IT IS AY, IT IS
DOMINEERING, IT IS DEMEANING.
AND THIS IS WHAT GUYS LEARN
FROM.
I LEARNED FROM THE GYM TEACHER.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
REALLY.
HONESTLY, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY
THAT IS SO POPULAR.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FUNNY.
WE HAD HEALTH CLASS TAUGHT BY
THE GYM TEACHER.
BUT IT WAS A LOT MORE
RESPONSIBLE THAN WHAT YOU SEE ON
THE PHONE AND WHAT KIDS CAN LOOK
AT.
I NEVER SAW ANYTHING RACIER THAN
"I DREAM OF JEANNIE."
[LAUGHTER]
THAT'S WHAT I GOT.
I WASN'T MASTURBATING IN GYM
CLASS.
[LAUGHTER]
WHAT'S MY QUESTION?
[LAUGHTER]
OKAY, MEN.
YOU GAVE THEM -- LOOK, YOU WANT
ROMANCE.
YOU GAVE THEM SOMETHING -- AND
THEN, LIKE, THE DATING APPS.
LIKE TINDER, IT IS NOT GOOD FOR
WOMEN.
WOMEN CANNOT BE LIKING THIS,
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT JUST A
QUICK THING.
THAT NEVER CHANGED, RIGHT?
>> Christine: YOU KNOW, I
THINK THAT IS THE CASE FOR A LOT
OF WOMEN.
I WILL TELL YOU ANOTHER STORY
FROM THE BOOK.
I WAS AT A PARTY -- YOU WRITE A
BOOK ABOUT SEX, PEOPLE WANT TO
TALK TO YOU ABOUT THEIR SEX
LIVES.
AND THIS WOMAN, YOU KNOW, WAS
TELLING ME ABOUT THIS GUY SHE
WAS DATING.
HE WAS REALLY GREAT, YOU KNOW,
IT IS HARD TO MEET SOMEONE, BUT
HE CHOKES HER DURING SEX, AND
SHE CONSENTED TO IT, OSTENSIBLY,
BUT SHE DIDN'T REALLY LIKE IT,
AND SHE WANTED TO KNOW, YOU
KNOW, IS THAT OKAY?
AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS ASKING
WHETHER IT WAS OKAY FOR HER TO
NOT LIKE BEING CHOKED BY A
STRANGER?
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE FACT
THAT SHE CONSENTED MADE IT SO
SHE COULDN'T COMPLAIN, AND I
THOUGHT THAT WAS INCREDIBLY SAD,
YOU KNOW, WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON
WHAT PEOPLE AGREE TO, THAT WOMEN
HAVE TO -- WOMEN AND MEN HAVE TO
CONSENT TO SOMETHING, AND ONCE
YOU HAVE CONSENTED TO IT, YOU
KNOW, EVERYTHING AFTER THAT IS
KIND OF OKAY.
BUT ACTUALLY, CONSENT IS A
FLOOR, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT A
CEILING.
WE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE JUST
KNOW MY JUDGMENT.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: I REMEMBER READING
THAT IN THE BOOK.
LIKE SO MANY THINGS IN THE BOOK.
THIS IS JUST A GENERATIONAL
THING.
I DON'T MEAN THIS IN A DEMEANING
WAY, BUT IT MADE ME GO, DUH,
BECAUSE MY GENERATION, THAT
WOULDN'T EVEN BE A THING.
OF COURSE CONSENT IS JUST A
FLOOR.
YOUR GENERATION GREW UP WITH SO
MUCH OF THIS GROSS SHIT.
THIS CHOKING STUFF, THAT COMES
FROM FOREIGN.
THAT IS WHERE GUYS LEARN HOW TO
HAVE SEX?
IT NEVER EVEN OCCURRED TO ME TO
CHOKE SOMEONE, OR WHY I WOULD
WANT TO, OR WHY THAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED SEXY.
OH, SHE CAN'T BREATHE, SEXY.
[LAUGHTER]
I DON'T EVEN GET IT.
THIS OBSESSION THAT THEY HAVE
WITH ANAL, DO THESE KIDS EVEN
KNOW THERE IS A REGINA THERE?
[APPLAUSE]
I DON'T GET THAT, EITHER.
BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THEY
WERE SAYING, LIKE 50 YEARS AGO,
THAT THE WOMEN'S LIBERATION
MOVEMENT WAS ACTUALLY CAUSING
WOMEN MORE MISERY, SORT OF LIKE
GIVING MEN THIS THING, I MEAN,
WOMEN ARE ALWAYS THE
GATEKEEPERS.
WE CAN'T BOTH BE SLUTS, YOU
KNOW?
RIGHT?
AND I DON'T THINK THAT HAS
CHANGED.
IT IS PART OF WHAT YOUR BOOK IS
SAYING, RIGHT?
SLUT PRIDE?
THAT WOMEN HAVE, OH, WE CAN DO
JUST WITH THE MEN DOES, IT
DOESN'T CONFORM WITH YOUR -- I'M
SORRY, THE DNA.
YOU ARE NOT -- [LAUGHS]
YOU ARE NOT THE SLUTS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Christine: THANK YOU.
[LAUGHS]
>> Bill: RIGHT?
>> Christine: YEAH, THIS IS
ONE OF THE THINGS
"RETHINKING SEX" IS REALLY
ABOUT, ACTUALLY, BETWEEN WHAT WE
THOUGHT THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT
WOULD BRING IN WHERE WE ENDED
UP.
THE ORIGINAL FEMINISTS WERE REAL
REVOLUTIONARIES, RIGHT?
THEY WANTED WOMEN TO BE VALUED
AND RESPECTED EQUALLY TO MEN,
BUT ALSO SEEN AS WOMEN, WOMEN,
THIS FEELS TABOO TO SAY
SOMETIMES, ARE DIFFERENT THAN
MEN.
BUT IN THE MODERN MOMENT, IT
ALMOST FEELS LIKE WE HAVE
DEFINED EVERYTHING DOWN, INSTEAD
OF WOMEN BEING RESPECTED AS
WOMEN, WOMEN SHOULD JUST BECOME
LIKE THE WORST KIND OF MAN,
LIKE, AS LIBERTINE, AS MUCH OF A
SLUT, YOU ARE STILL SUPPOSED TO
BE A BOSS BUT NOW IT IS A GIRL
BOSS, SO THAT IS BETTER.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS BETTER FOR
WOMEN.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS SERVING A
LOT OF WOMEN WHILE.
>> Bill: AND IT SHOULDN'T BE
TABOO.
TO SAY THAT THERE ARE TWO SEXES,
AND THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT.
IT'S INSANE.
[APPLAUSE]
ALL RIGHT, IT IS A GREAT BOOK, I
HOPE EVERYBODY GETS IT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
OUR LAST SHOW FOR THE FIRST HALF
OF THE SEASON.
CHRISTINE EMBA.
LET'S MEET OUR PANEL.
[APPLAUSE]
♪ ♪
WHAT A CRAZY WORLD, HUH?
HELLO, YOU TWO.
HE'S A BLOGGER OF "THE WEEKLY
DISH" ON SUBSTACK AND
AUTHOR OF "OUT ON A LIMB:
SELECTED WRITING, 1989-2021."
PLEASE WELCOME, ANDREW SULLIVAN.
[APPLAUSE]
HE IS OUR MOST VIEWED GUEST.
CLOSE.
SHE'S THE CO-HOST OF THE PODCAST
"BLOCKED AND REPORTED,"
KATIE HERZOG IS WITH US TONIGHT.
BEFORE I TALK TO YOU GUYS, LET
ME PROGRAM NOTE, WE ARE OFF
AFTER TONIGHT FOR A MONTH.
THIS CROWD, I COULD SAY ANYTHING
AND THEY MAKE NO NOISE.
THEY JUST CURED CANCER.
[LAUGHTER]
I DON'T KNOW.
GOOD LAFFER'S, BUT OTHER THAN
THAT.
STRANGE FUCKING PEOPLE HERE
TONIGHT.
ANYWAY, WE ARE OFF UNTIL
JULY 29TH.
SOME PEOPLE ARE DISAPPOINTED
ABOUT IT.
[LAUGHTER]
WE ARE OFF FOR A MONTH, BUT I
WILL BE IN VEGAS ON THE 22ND,
AND YOU CAN ALWAYS LISTEN TO MY
PODCAST.
FUCKING AMAZING.
ALSO, I WILL BE DOING DRAG QUEEN
STORY UNDER THE NAME "BILLY
MARVELOUS."
[LAUGHTER]
SO, TALK ABOUT A BIG NEWS DAY.
TO SEND ME OFF ON MY ONE MONTH
VACATION.
SO, AS I SAID IN THE MONOLOGUE,
IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE
SUPREME COURT, RIGHT?
THIS IS SOMETHING CONSERVATIVES
HAVE GOTTEN FOR THE LONGEST
TIME.
THEY PLAY THE LONG GAME.
THEY KNEW THIS FROM THE
BEGINNING.
IT'S ABOUT GETTING THE COURT.
THAT IS WHERE THE POWER IS.
THEY PUT SIX CATHOLICS ON THE
COURT.
I'M NOT GOING TO BLAME YOU
PERSONALLY, ANDREW, BECAUSE YOU
ARE CATHOLIC AND YOU DEFEND
CATHOLICS, BUT I BLAME IT ON
YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Andrew: I THINK YOU ARE
GIVING THE REPUBLICANS MORE
CREDIT THAN THEY DESERVE IN
THIS.
IT WAS LUCK, TO SOME EXTENT.
IF HILLARY CLINTON HAD ONE BACK
IN 2016, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE
HAPPENED.
IF RUTH BADER GINSBURG HAVE
RESIGNED AND RETIRED WHEN SHE
SHOULD HAVE, THIS PROBABLY
WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
THIS IS TRUMP ADDING THREE
PEOPLE TO THIS COURT.
IT IS HIS REAL LEGACY.
>> Bill: IT COULD HAVE
HAPPENED, EVEN WITH JUST THE
PERSON THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
MERRICK GARLAND.
IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO -- AND IF
IT WASN'T THIS TIME, IT WILL BE
THE NEXT TIME.
THEY PLAY THE LONG AND THEY KNOW
HOW TO WIN, AND THEY DID.
>> Andrew: IF HILLARY HAD WON,
SHE WOULD HAVE APPOINTED THREE,
TOO, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF CONTINGENCIE
CONTINGENCIES.
>> Katie: REPUBLICANS DON'T
PLAY PURITY POLITICS THE WAY
THOSE OF US ON THE LEFT TO DO,
AS YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR
MONOLOGUE, RUSTY BOWERS, A GUY
WHOSE LIFE WAS RUINED BY
DONALD TRUMP STILL SAID HE WOULD
VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE
FOR HIM THE PRINCIPLE WAS MORE
IMPORTANT THAN THE INDIVIDUAL,
WHEREAS THOSE OF US ON THE LEFT
ARE LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT
CANDIDATE AND THERE IS NO
PERFECT CANDIDATE SO A LOT OF
PEOPLE STAY HOME, AND THIS IS
WHAT YOU GET.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: SO, WHAT ARE WE GOING
TO DO NOW?
WE ARE BASICALLY LIVING IN LIKE
TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
THERE ARE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD
LIKE THIS, ISRAEL CERTAINLY
COMES TO MIND, AS SORT OF, YOU
KNOW, ALMOST OFFICIALLY AN
APARTHEID COUNTRY.
IT COULD BECOME ONE.
BELGIUM.
I MEAN, I AM A DEFENDER OF
ISRAEL, I DON'T MEAN THAT IS
THEIR FAULT, BUT IT IS A
COMPLICATED SITUATION.
BELGIUM, YOU KNOW, THEY HATE
EACH OTHER, THE FLANDERS AND
WHOEVER THEY ARE.
THEY DON'T TALK.
CZECHOSLOVAKIA DIVIDED, LIKE YOU
TAKE SLOVAKIA, WE WILL TAKE
CZECH, BUT AMERICA CAN'T DO
THAT.
WE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN
THAT KIND OF COUNTRY.
>> Andrew: WE HAVE ALWAYS
LIVED IN THAT COUNTRY.
IT IS FEDERALISM.
IF YOU THINK ALABAMA IS ALWAYS
GOING TO HAVE THE SAME POLITICS
AS ILLINOIS OR OREGON, --
>> Bill: SAME LAWS.
>> Andrew: THIS DECISION TO
THE STATES.
THAT IS THE GENIUS OF THE
AMERICAN SYSTEM.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ONE
CONSISTENT NATIONAL OPINION ON
EVERYTHING.
WE WOULD GO CRAZY.
>> Bill: NOT TALKING ABOUT
OPINIONS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
LAWS.
>> Katie: THE PROBLEM IS THE
PENDULUM IS SWINGING FURTHER AND
FURTHER TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT,
SO EVERY TIME THE RIGHT PASSES
SOME DRACONIAN BILL, WHETHER
ABOUT ABORTION OR TRANS KIDS OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE LEFT
DOES AND GOES THE OPPOSITE.
THERE IS NO CENTER.
>> Bill: THERE IS NO -- THERE
IS NO CENTER.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Andrew: AMERICA UNTIL TODAY
IS THE ONLY WESTERN COUNTRY TO
HAVE ABORTION AS A
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
NO OTHER -- NOT EVEN CANADA, NOT
GERMANY, NOT ANY OF THE OTHER
LIBERAL COUNTRIES, THEY DID IT
BY DEMOCRATIC RULE, AND THE
CONGRESS COULD DO IT TODAY.
IF THEY WANTED TO PASS A LAW
SAYING ABORTION IS LEGAL IN
EVERY STATE.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES,
BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY IS DIVIDED.
THIS CASE THAT FORCED THIS
DECISION, DOBBS, WAS A CASE THAT
SAID ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL
FOR 15 WEEKS.
DO YOU KNOW -- DO YOU KNOW WHAT
THE LEGAL LIMIT IN GERMANY IS?
>> Bill: I KNOW --
>> Andrew: 12 WEEKS.
>> Katie: THEY ALSO HAVE
HEALTH CARE.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Andrew: THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
>> Katie: WOMEN ARE MORE
LIKELY TO FIND OUT THEY ARE
PREGNANT, THEY ARE MORE LIKELY
TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE THINGS
THEY NEED TO GET AN ABORTION.
>> Andrew: BUT THEY HAGGLE IT
OUT AND COME TO A COMPROMISE
WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS AND SOME
FREEDOMS.
>> Bill: THAT'S WHAT I'M
TALKING ABOUT.
THERE IS NO THE TEXAS REPUBLICAN
PARTY HAD THEIR CONVENTION THIS
WEEK.
AMONG THE THINGS, THEY SAID -- I
MEAN, SOME WERE FAIRLY
PREDICTABLE FOR A RED STATE
REPUBLICAN CONVENTION THAT THE
LAST ELECTION IS NOT LEGITIMATE,
WHICH WE GET USE TO, WHICH IS
OUTRAGEOUS.
SECESSION.
COMPLETELY ON THE TABLE.
>> Katie: GO FOR IT.
GET RID OF TEXAS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: NO, NO.
IT IS A BULLSHIT ARGUMENT.
AUSTIN, TOO?
>> Katie: THEY CAN TAKE
AUSTIN.
>> Bill: I'M SORRY, I GUESS
YOU ARE KIDDING, I HOPE YOU ARE
KIDDING, BECAUSE IT IS NOT
POSSIBLE --
>> Katie: IT'S NEVER GOING TO
HAPPEN.
>> Bill: I DON'T KNOW FROM
HALF THE COUNTRY, I READ LAST
WEEK AND A POLL, THINKS THEY
WILL SEE A CIVIL WAR IN THEIR
LIFETIME.
AND THAT HALF, I THINK A LOT OF
THEM SEE A CIVIL WAR ARE ROOTING
FOR ONE.
I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE
ACTUALLY ROOTING FOR IT.
WHATEVER IT IS, THEY ALSO --
LISTEN TO THIS.
HOMOSEXUALITY, THEY SAID, IS AN
ABNORMAL LIFESTYLE.
SO WE ARE BACK TO THE '80s ON
THAT?
THIS IS THE COUNTRY THEY WANT.
CLARENCE THOMAS PUT IT IN THE
RULING TODAY.
WE ARE GOING BACK -- AND I'M
TELLING YOU, THIS IS TWO
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
>> Andrew: YEAH, BUT ON THE
ISSUES LIKE ABORTION, LET'S TAKE
THAT, THIS IS ACTUALLY A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY FOR LIBERALS,
PRO-CHOICERS.
THE COUNTRY IS NOT IN FAVOR OF
BANNING ALL ABORTION.
ONLY 13% WANT THAT.
SO GO OUT THERE, PERSUADE PEOPL
PEOPLE, AND WHAT THIS RULING
DOES IS CALLED THE RELIGIOUS
RIGHT'S BLUFF.
THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO
SAY THIS IS TERRIBLE, AND MUST
BE BANNED, THEY HAVE NEVER HAD
TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH
A BAN, AND NOW THEY WILL.
MAKE THE ARGUMENT, BUILD THE
COALITIONS, WHEN THE ELECTIONS
IN THE STATES, AND GET
PRO-CHOICE POLICIES BACK.
[APPLAUSE]
IT'S FEASIBLE, BILL.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, IF THAT IS
YOUR PRINCIPAL, GET OUT THERE.
MAKE SURE THAT THESE WOMEN IN
THESE STATES HAVE ACCESS TO
ABORTION.
FIND THE FUNDING IF THEY NEED IT
TO GO TRAVEL TO GET IT.
THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO.
[APPLAUSE]
THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE, LIKE 71%
OF THE COUNTRY, SUPPORTS
GAY MARRIAGE.
THE TEXAS REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
BONKERS.
THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THIS
DONE.
SO I THINK DEMOCRACY IS A GREAT
THING.
THERE ARE EXTREMES, I AGREE WITH
YOU ENTIRELY, BILL.
THE RIGHT HAS GONE OFF THE DEEP
END.
THE LEFT HAS GONE OFF THE DEEP
END.
WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN FIND A
CENTER.
IT TURNS OUT, BIDEN DOESN'T SEEM
TO BE THAT PERSON.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
THAT.
I SAW YOUR TWEET THIS WEEK,
MAYBE IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY, IT
SAID SOMETHING LIKE, WE VOTED
FOR BIDEN THINKING HE WAS A
COMPETENT CENTRIST, AND HE
TURNED OUT TO BE AN INCOMPETENT
EXTREMIST.
THAT IS WHAT YOUR VIEW OF HIM
IS?
>> Andrew: WELL, IT SEEMS -- I
DON'T HOW ELSE TO PUT IT.
THIS IS A PERSON WHO HAS
AUTOMATICALLY ABOLISHED
BIOLOGICAL SEX AND TITLE IX
REGULATIONS.
THIS IS A GUY WHO WANTED TO
SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY THAN WE
SPENT LAST YEAR WHEN WE NOW HAVE
INFLATION SOMEWHERE LIKE 8-9%.
IMMIGRATION FROM A MILLION
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS COME IN AND
THE LAST YEAR UNDER BIDEN.
THIS IS NOT A MODERATE
PRESIDENCY.
I WISH IT WERE.
I VOTED FOR HIM.
BUT HE IS A CAPTIVE OF HIS LEFT
THE WAY SOME OF THESE
REPUBLICANS ARE CAPTIVE OF THEIR
RIGHT.
WE NEED PEOPLE TO STAND UP TO
THEIR OWN BASIS, APPEAL TO THE
MIDDLE, AND WIN.
AND I THINK -- I THINK WE ARE
COMING TO THE POINT WHERE ALL OF
US ARE SICK OF THIS AS YOU ARE,
BILL.
IT IS AN AWFUL, POISONOUS --
[APPLAUSE]
IT FEELS LIKE A TOXIC MARRIAGE,
WHERE NOW PEOPLE ARE JUST DOING
THINGS DESPITE.
>> Bill: WELL, IT IS.
IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR QUITE A
WHILE.
GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID -- THE
FIRST THING YOU SAID BIDEN DID,
HE OUTLAWED BIOLOGICAL SEX?
>> Andrew: HE SAID IN
TITLE IX, WHICH IS ABOUT
COLLEGES, THAT SEX COME AS A
BIOLOGICAL THING, IS NO WONDER G
WOMEN.
IT IS ONLY GENDER.
SO YOU CAN BE A BIOLOGICAL MALE
AND INVOKE THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN.
IN COLLEGES, AND WIN.
HE ALSO REMOVED ALL THE DUE
PROCESS FOR PEOPLE ACCUSED OF
SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
HE CREATED ONE, DID NOT GIVE
ACCESS TO ANY OF THE
ALLEGATIONS.
HE GOT RID OF ANY
CROSS-EXAMINATION.
HE RETURNED TO THIS ONE SINGLE
JUDGE, JURY, AND EXECUTIONER.
AND WE KNOW THAT LED TO
TOLERABLE ABUSES.
THERE IS NOTHING I CAN SEE RIGHT
NOW, EVEN ON ABORTION, WHERE HE
IS ANYWHERE NEAR THE CENTER OF
WHERE PUBLIC OPINION IS.
>> Bill: WELL, AND THEN THE
TRANS ONE, I THINK THIS WEEK, HE
SAID -- I THINK THE QUOTE WAS
"MY ORDER WILL USE THE FULL
FORCE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
TO PREVENT INHUMANE PRACTICES OF
CONVERSION THERAPY."
NOW, I REMEMBER CONVERSION
THERAPY BEING SOMETHING SILLY, I
MADE FUN OF IT, ONE OF THE
FUNNIEST SCENES IN THE MOVIE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER.
[APPLAUSE]
CONVERSION THERAPY, WHERE THEY
WOULD TAKE A GAY PERSON AND SAY
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GAY
AND WE ARE GOING TO CONVERT YOU,
AND OF COURSE IT WAS SILLY AND
WE LAUGHED THAT ONE OFF THE MAP,
I GUESS THE SUPREME COURT IS
GOING TO TRY TO BRING IT BACK,
BUT IT IS A COMPLETE DIFFERENT
ISSUE WITH WHAT HE IS TALKING
ABOUT HERE WITH TRANS.
IS THAT RIGHT?
>> Christine: IT IS RIGHT.
>> Bill: WE HAVE ALL THREE GOT
IN TROUBLE PERIODS INTEREST
INCOME A MAN FROM A LESBIAN, AND
A STRAIGHT GUY, WE HAVE BOTH
GOTTEN HELLA SHIT JUST FOR
TALKING.
THEIR VIEW IS IF YOU DEBATE IT,
IT IS BIGOTRY AND WE ARE HERE TO
SAY NO, IT IS NOT, WE ARE GOING
TO DEBATE IT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> Katie: WHEN HBO TOLD YOU TO
DO SOMETHING FOR PRIDE MONTH,
THIS IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT THEY
HAD IN MIND.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
THIS IS A MISNOMER.
WHEN IT COMES TO CONVERSION
THERAPY, WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
WITH SEXUAL ORIENTATION, AND WE
ALSO KNOW THAT
SEXUAL ORIENTATION FOR MOST
PEOPLE, COLLEGE GIRLS BEING THE
EXCEPTION, IS FIXED FROM A VERY
YOUNG AGE.
GENDER IDENTITY IS NOT -- THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT, BIDEN DID NOT DEFINE WHAT
CONVERSION THERAPY WOULD MEAN
WHEN IT COMES TO GENDER
IDENTITY, BUT WHAT THIS COULD BE
IS LET'S SAY A CHILD GOES TO A
THERAPIST AND SAYS "I HAVE
DEPRESSION, AND ALSO I AM
TRANSFER MY VENDOR DYSPHORIA,"
AND IF THE THERAPIST OR
CLINICIAN SAYS LET'S ADDRESS
THESE POSSIBLY UNDERLYING ISSUEF
GENDER DYSPHORIA, BEFORE JUST
AFFIRMING YOU AND SAYING YES,
YOU ARE THE SEX, YOU ARE THE
GENDER YOU WANT TO BE, BUT
START YOU ON A REGIMEN OF
PUBERTY BLOCKERS AND HORMONES,
THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED
CONVERSION THERAPY.
WOULD LIKE TO TALK -- US
LIBERALS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW
WE ARE THE PARTY OF SCIENCE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA ON THIS
AND THE SCIENCE TELLS US, TALKED
ABOUT THIS A LOT, MANY, MANY
CHILDREN WHO PRESENT WITH GENDER
DYSPHORIA FROM YOUNG AGE DESIST,
AND OFTEN END UP BEING LIKE US,
GAYS AND LESBIANS.
IT IS A COMPLETE -- CONFLATING
THESE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT
REALLY SHOULD NOT BE CONFLATED.
>> Bill: AND ONCE IN A WHILE,
LIKE ME.
[APPLAUSE]
I AM A FLAGRANT HETEROSEXUAL.
>> Andrew: I'M JUST WORRIED --
>> Bill: BEFORE WE -- JUST TO
SAVE YOU HERE, SO YOU DON'T GET
KILLED BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE
GOTTEN --
>> Katie: WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN
PEERED >> Bill: HE ALSO SAID
IN YOUR ARTICLE THAT CAUGHT SO
MUCH SHIT, SOME PEOPLE
TRANSITION AND
ARE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT.
>> Katie: ABSOLUTELY.
>> Bill: AND THAT IS AN HONEST
DEBATE, SOME PEOPLE ARE HAPPY.
LET'S FIND THE RIGHT METHOD TO
MAKE SURE WE GET THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH IT.
OKAY, BUT NOT THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH
IT.
THIS SEEMS SO REASONABLE BUT WE
JUST DON'T DO ANYTHING IN A
REASONABLE WAY.
>> Andrew: YOU WANT A RIGHT
DIAGNOSIS.
SOMETIMES THAT WILL TAKE TIME TO
LISTEN TO A CHILD, TO EXPLORE
ALL SORTS OF ISSUES WITH THEM,
AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT IS
WRONG.
YOU HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY PUT THEM
ON THIS TRACK.
YOU KNOW, I WORRY ABOUT WHAT
THIS DOES TO GAY KIDS.
CHRISTMAS ONCE, I WAS WITH MY
GRANDMOTHER, MY MOTHER, AND MY
LITTLE BROTHER.
I WAS EIGHT, HE WAS FOUR, HE WAS
RENTING A TRUCK UP AGAINST THE
WALL.
I WAS SITTING THERE READING SOME
STUPID LOOK.
>> Bill: UP AGAINST THE WALL,
THANK GOD.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THAT STORY
WAS GOING.
THIS IS HOW IT BEGAN.
>> Andrew: AND MY GRANDMOTHER
LOOKED AT MY MOM, MY BROTHER,
AND ME, AND SAID NOW AT LEAST
YOU HAVE A REAL BOY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS
A DANGER -- I DON'T THINK ANYONE
INTENDED TO DO THIS, BUT THERE
IS AN EFFEMINATE LITTLE BOY OR A
BOY THAT IS NOT STEREOTYPICALLY
MALE IN THOSE OLD STEREOTYPES,
IS BEING TOLD BY AUTHORITIES,
MAYBE YOU ARE A GIRL.
MAYBE YOU ARE A GIRL UNDERNEATH.
IT IS VITAL THAT THAT GAY KIDS
NOT BE TOLD THAT.
IT IS OKAY TO BE A MAN AND NOT
BE STEREOTYPICALLY MALE.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: OR, CONVERSELY, WHAT
THEY USED TO CALL A TOMBOY.
>> Andrew: RIGHT.
>> Bill: WOMEN HAVE SAID THIS
TO ME.
THAT, LIKE, I WAS NOT INTERESTED
IN WEARING A DRESS OR ANY -- I
WAS WHAT THEY CALLED A TOMBOY
UNTIL I WAS 15.
AND TODAY, THEY WOULD HAVE SAID
I WAS TRANS.
BUT I CHANGED.
BECAUSE ALL OF CHILDHOOD IS SO
FLUID.
SO, AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO GET
KILLED JUST FOR HAVING THIS
DISCUSSION, BUT YOU KNOW --
>> Andrew: THERE ARE
CHILDREN'S LIVES AT STAKE HERE.
TRANS CHILDREN, THEY ARE THERE,
THEY DO EXIST.
I THINK KATIE AND I BOTH AGREE
THAT IF AFTER CAREFUL DIAGNOSIS
AND A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THEY
REALLY ARE ASSESSED PROPERLY,
THEY CAN CONTENT -- AND SHOULD
CONSENT SOMETIMES TO TRANSITION.
BUT THIS CURRENT ENTHUSIASM IS
PUSHING A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT
OF KIDS, IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
>> Bill: THE SCARIEST PART,
YOU HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT --
[APPLAUSE]
TO ME, THE SCARIEST PART IS IT
HAS INFECTED ACTUAL MEDICAL
SCHOOLS.
THE SEAT OF WHERE THE SCIENCE
IS.
WHERE YOU HAVE PROFESSORS AT
MEDICAL SCHOOLS APOLOGIZING FOR
USING THE WORDS MALE AND FEMALE?
>> Katie: THE W WORD, THE
B-WORD, MAN AND WOMAN.
BUT IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT THE
RIGHT IS USING THIS --
>> Bill: YES.
>> Katie: IN A WAY THAT IS
INCREDIBLY DRACONIAN AND CRUEL,
TEXAS TALKING ABOUT TAKING KIDS
FROM THEIR FAMILIES FOR
FOLLOWING MEDICAL GUIDELINES.
I DISAGREE WITH THE GUIDELINES.
I THINK THEY ARE BASED
OFTENTIMES ON ERRONEOUS
EVIDENCE, AND WHAT THAT DOES,
EVEN IF YOU'RE A PERSON WHO
OBJECTS TO THINGS LIKE PUBERTY
BLOCKS BLOCKERS, IF TEXAS PASSES
A LAW OUTLAWING PUBERTY BLOCKERS
OR CRIMINALIZING DOCTORS, OREGO,
WASHINGTON, CALIFORNIA ARE GOING
TO PASS LAWS SAYING THAT
13-YEAR-OLDS CAN GET THEM
WITHOUT PARENTAL PERMISSION.
THIS IS JUST THE PENDULUM THAT
CONTINUES TO SWING BACK AND
FORTH.
>> Andrew: THERE IS NO CENTER
HERE.
>> Bill: AND NONE OF THESE
ISSUES -- WELL, NOT NONE, BUT A
LOT OF THEM ARE NOT THAT HARD TO
COMPROMISE, TO A REASONABLE,
UNDERSTANDING -- A MIDDLE GROUND
EVERYONE COULD AGREE ON IF THEY
WERE NOT NUTS.
>> Katie: IN SWEDEN AND
FINLAND, THEY HAVE A STENT
ESSENTIALLY STOP THE WIDESPREAD
USE OF PUBERTY BLOCKERS BECAUSE
THEY LOOKED AT THE EVIDENCE,
DONE THE THING LIBERALS SAY,
THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE SCIENCE
AND THE SCIENCE SAYS SIDE
EFFECTS ARE VERY SERIOUS AND
MANY CHILDREN WHO PRESENT EARLY
WITH DYSPHORIA ARE GOING TO
DESIST.
>> Bill: AS I MENTIONED, WE
ARE ABOUT TO TAKE OUR JULY
BREAK.
WE WILL BE BACK JULY 29TH, BUT
WHENEVER WE GO AWAY FOR A MONTH,
BUT WE DO IS PROVIDE FOR THE
AUDIENCE FUTURE HEADLINES,
BECAUSE --
[APPLAUSE]
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE ARE NOT
HERE EVERY WEEK TO REPORT WHAT
IS HAPPENING, WE WILL TELL YOU
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
NEXT FIVE WEEKS.
WE ARE THE FUTURE HEADLINES FOR
JULY.
UVALDE, TEXAS, POLICE DEPARTMENT
STILL WAITING IN HALLWAY.
[LAUGHTER]
"IVANKA PUBLISHES NEW BOOK: "YOU
ARE RIGHT, MY DAD'S AND ASSHOLE,
WILL YOU BUY MY CLOTHES NOW?"
"BATTERED CRYPTO INVESTORS FLOCK
TO "I WILL SUCK YOUR DICK COIN."
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
HERSCHEL WALKER ADMITS TO
FATHERING NICK CANNON.
WOW.
[LAUGHTER]
THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
"LIBRARIES IN TEXAS TO OFFER
IMPOTENT GUN NUT STORY HOUR."
[LAUGHTER]
"BIDEN FALLS OFF STATIONARY
BIKE."
OH...
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
"PEOPLE WHO FLED L.A. FOR IDAHO
DURING PANDEMIC REALIZED THEY
FUCKED UP."
[APPLAUSE]
"SAN FRANCISCO SHOPLIFTERS STEEL
SECURITY GUARDS PANS."
[LAUGHTER]
NOT HIS PANTS.
"AMBER HEARD NOW ON CAMEO, SAYS
CRAPPING IN YOUR BED WILL COST
EXTRA."
[APPLAUSE]
AND "DAVE CHAPPELLE SHOCKER: I'M
AN ASIAN WOMAN NAMED DIANE."
[APPLAUSE]
I MENTIONED...
[APPLAUSE]
GUN NUT STORY HOUR.
I HADN'T HEARD OF A DRAG QUEEN
STORY HOUR BEFORE LIKE A FEW
WEEKS AGO, AND NOW IT IS ALL I
HEAR ABOUT, DRAG QUEEN -- AND I
AM LOOKING AT FOR DONALD TRUMP,
HE WAS ATTACKING ME AGAIN THIS
PAST WEEKEND.
I FOUND THE RAW NERVE THERE IS
DeSANTIS, BECAUSE I WAS
TALKING -- LAST WEEK'S PANELIST,
DO YOU THINK DeSANTIS WOULD BE
BETTER THAN TRUMP, AND I SAID
FUCK YEAH.
DOESN'T SPRAY COTTON CANDY ON
HIS HEAD IN THE MORNING.
JUST NOT A COMPLETE NUT.
TRUMP WENT CRAZY ABOUT THAT, AND
I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IF
TRUMP WOULD JUST LET GO OF THE
ELECTION, WHICH HE CAN'T, HE
COULD WIN THIS SO EASY BECAUSE
HE COULD WIN IT JUST ON DRAG
QUEEN STORY HOUR.
[LAUGHTER]
WHICH, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY, I
DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY
6-YEAR-OLDS NEED IT, BUT I DON'T
THINK IT HURTS THEM THAT MUCH
BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW -- I
DON'T THINK THEY THINK THAT IS A
MAN.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ANY
MORE THEY UNDERSTAND THE MALL
SANTA IS ALCOHOLIC.
[LAUGHTER]
BUT --
[LAUGHS]
WHAT DRAG QUEEN STORY HOUR, AS
POLITICS, YOUR TAKE?
>> Andrew: OH, ME?
>> Bill: ANYONE.
>> Andrew: AS POLITICS, YOU
CAN DEMIMONDE THIS ISSUE TO THE
NTH DEGREE, AND THE RIGHT WILL
DO SO.
IF THERE ARE INSTANCES -- SOME
DRAG QUEENS ARE BEHAVING
INAPPROPRIATELY, THEY SHOULD
STOP IT.
BUT KIDS LIKING PEOPLE IN
BIZARRE COSTUME AND SEQUINS AND
MAKE UP, AND THEY ARE
ENCOURAGING THEM TO COME TO A
LIBRARY?
IT'S NOT HOOTERS.
AND THE PARENTS GET TO CHOOSE
WHEN THEY TAKE THEM OR NOT.
THE RIGHT IS ALL IN FAVOR OF
PARENTS RIGHTS UNTIL THE PARENTS
DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T AGREE
WITH.
AND THEN THEY WANT TO TAKE THEM
AWAY.
THIS IS A TRIVIAL ISSUE,
OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK THE DRAG QUEENS PROBABLY
NEED TO CALM IT DOWN A BIT.
AND I SAY THAT IS A HUGE FAN OF
DRAG QUEENS.
I LIVE AMONG THEM.
IN PROVINCETOWN.
I'VE TAKEN MY NIECE AND NEPHEW
TO SEE THEM COME AND THEY LOVED
IT.
THEY HAD NO IDEA IT WAS AN
ACTUAL MAN UNDERNEATH.
>> Bill: RIGHT.
>> Andrew: IF YOU GREW UP IN
BRITAIN, YOU GO TO THESE
PANTOMIMES AND CHRISTMAS, THE
LEAD IS ALWAYS SOME GUY IN A
DRESS LOOKING AS UGLY AS
POSSIBLE.
>> Bill: WHAT ABOUT A
COMPROMISE WHERE WE ARE NO DRAG
QUEEN HOUR, BUT THEY READ AYN
RAND?
THE CONSERVATIVES --
[APPLAUSE]
>> Katie: THE DRAG QUEEN
ISSUE, DRAG QUEENS CAN BE
CLOWNISH, IT CAN BE INNOCENT.
IT CAN ALSO BE OVER SEXUALIZED.
SO THE RIGHT IS TAKING WHAT ARE
PROBABLY ISOLATED INCIDENTS AND
TURNING THEM INTO POLITICAL
ISSUES, WHICH I THINK IS
STRATEGICALLY SMART.
AS A GENERAL RULE, I THINK IT IS
INAPPROPRIATE -- IF A WOMAN WAS
DOING THE SAME THING, AND ACTUAL
BIOLOGICAL WOMAN, AND IT
INAPPROPRIATE, PARENTS PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T TAKE THEIR KIDS TO
WHATEVER EVENT IT IS, WHETHER IT
IS HAPPY HOUR -- STORY HOUR OR
DRAG QUEEN BRUNCH OR WHATEVER.
BUT THEY ARE TURNING THIS INTO A
HOMOPHOBIC PANIC, AT THIS POIN.
>> Bill: RIGHT.
THAT IS POLITICS THAT IS GOING
TO WORK.
>> Andrew: IT SEEMS LIKE THE
LEFT HAS BEEN ABLE TO CALL
PEOPLE RACIST AS AN ARGUMENT IN
THERE, AND NOW THE RIGHT HAS
DECIDED, WHAT IF WE CALL THEM
ALL PEDOS.
PEDOPHILES.
LIKE RACIST, HOW DO YOU SAY I AM
NOT, I AM NOT.
THE MORE YOU SAY I AM NOT, THEY
SAY SEE, IT PROVES YOU ARE.
AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER
HORRIBLE ASPECT OF THE FAR RIGHT
GOADING THE FAR LEFT, THEY HAVE
THIS HORRIBLE, SICK
RELATIONSHIP, IN WHICH THEY PROP
EACH OTHER UP.
THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY HAS TO
SAY "CUT IT OUT."
YEAH, THIS IS HAPPENING, IT'S
FINE AS LONG AS IT IS TOTALLY
PG, RIGHT?
>> Bill: OKAY, SO PRIDE MONTH.
YOU SEE IT EVERYWHERE.
CAN IT BE TOO CMERCIALIZED, DO
YOU THINK?
I WAS BACK EAST LAST WEEK, THERE
WAS A LITTLE THUNDERSTORM, I SAW
A RAINBOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN
AD FOR THE SKY.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
I DON'T KNOW.
>> Katie: YES, IT IS TOO
COMMERCIALIZED VEHICLE AT THIS
POINT, EVERYBODY IS GAY,
EVERYBODY IS QUEER, IT TAKES THE
FUN OUT OF IT AT THIS POINT.
>> Bill: I THOUGHT THAT, I
ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
COOLEST THING WAS YOU COULDN'T
GET MARRIED.
>> Andrew: THESE ARE FOR
STRAIGHT PEOPLE, GAY PRIDE
PARADES.
YOU LOOK AT SOME POLLS COME
ASKING THE LGBTQ I MUST PLUS A
WW ZYX COMMUNITY, 40% OF THEM
ARE STRAIGHT WOMEN WHO JUST DYED
THEIR HAIR ONE DAY AND CALLED
THEMSELVES.
[LAUGHTER]
THE LEFT IS AGAINST CULTURAL
APPROPRIATION, BUT WITH GAYS,
THEY WANT TO BE AS LGBTQ W X, Y,
AND Z AS ANYBODY.
[APPLAUSE]
>> Bill: THE LAST POLLING OF
DEMOCRATS, THESE ARE DEMOCRATS
ON THIS ISSUE, 40% OF DEMOCRATIC
MEN UNDER 50, SO INTERESTING,
THE DEMOCRATIC MEN OVER 50, MUCH
MORE LIBERAL ON THIS ISSUE.
THESE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE
KIDS.
THE YOUNGER ONES.
40% OF DEMOCRATIC MEN -- AGAIN,
DEMOCRATIC, UNDER 50 -- AGREED
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO
INDOCTRINATE CHILDREN INTO THEIR
LIFESTYLE.
>> Katie: I AM SKEPTICAL OF
THIS POLL.
IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH MY LIVED
EXPERIENCE, AS THEY SAY.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Andrew: METHODOLOGICALLY
REALLY FLAWED, THAT POLL, BUT I
AGREE, WE WENT, AS GAY PEOPLE,
FROM BEING THE PEOPLE ALWAYS
SUPPORTED A SUBVERSION, HUMOR,
SUBCULTURE, AND NOW, WE ARE THE
PEOPLE YELLING AT PEOPLE FOR NOT
SAYING THE RIGHT WORD, NOT USING
THE RIGHT PRONOUNS, AND IT IS
AWFUL.
[APPLAUSE]
AND VIOLATES THE GAY SPIRIT, THE
GAY INHERITANCE.
WE HATE RESTRICTIONS ON
FREE SPEECH.
FOR THE LONGEST TIME, GAY PEOPLE
WERE THE ONLY RIGHT WE HAD WAS
THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
NOW THESE LGBTQ ALPHABET PEOPLE
WANT TO CONTROL PEOPLE'S SPEECH.
GAY PEOPLE HAVE TO BEGIN TO
STAND UP AND STAY TO THE T QRS W
PEOPLE, CUT IT OUT.
CUT IT OUT.
WE ARE NOT THIS.
WE ARE NOT A BUNCH OF SCALDING
PURITANS WHO WANT TO TELL PEOPLE
HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIVES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE
OUR LIVES, EVERYBODY ELSE --
WHEN WE MADE IT THAT WAY, WHEN
WE MADE THAT ARGUMENT, I MADE
IT, FOR 20 YEARS, WE WON PRN NOW
THEY WANT TO REVERSE THIS
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CONTENT
WITH LIBERALISM.
>> Bill: I WANT TO INTRODUCE
ONE LAST FORMAT THAT IS NOT
BULLSHIT.
TRUMP WENT SO MENTAL ABOUT WHAT
I SAID LAST WEEK, I WANT TO
TWIST HIS TAIL MORE.
[LAUGHTER]
NEW HAMPSHIRE HAD A POLL,
PRESIDENTIAL POLL, DeSANTIS
BEAT HIM.
THAT'S RIGHT, DONNY, HE BEAT
YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK
OF TRUMP -- AGAIN, IF HE COULD
JUST LET GO OF THE ELECTION, BUT
AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, HE IS
LIKE A HOTEL ROOM THAT SMELLS.
[LAUGHTER]
AT SOME POINT, YOU JUST WANT A
NEW ROOM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
AND DeSANTIS, I MEAN, HE IS
MORE VIBRANT, IF YOU LIKE PEOPLE
WHO DON'T LOSE ELECTIONS, YOU
KNOW.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Katie: HE IS ALSO NOT
PLAGUED BY SCANDAL THE WAY TRUMP
IS.
HE IS A STRONGER CANDIDATE.
JANUARY 6TH HEARINGS HAVE BEEN
COMPELLING TO WATCH BUT A LITTLE
PART OF ME THINKS THIS MIGHT
ACTUALLY BE BAD FOR THE
DEMOCRATS BECAUSE OF TRUMP IS
TOO WEAK TO WIN THAT ARE PUBLIC
IN NOMINATION, IT IS GOING TO BE
DeSANTIS, AND DeSANTIS COULD
BEAT AYDIN.
>> Bill: EASILY.
ANYBODY COULD BEAT BIDEN.
WHO CANNOT BEAT BIDEN AT THIS
POINT?
TRUMP MIGHT BE THE ONE GUY WHO
COULD LOSE TO BIDEN.
DeSANTIS IS A WINNER, RUNS THE
LARGEST STATE, TRUMP WAS A HOTEL
GREETER WHO LOST COME HIS
INSURRECTION FAILED.
>> Andrew: THE ATTACK ARE VERY
CONSTITUTION.
HE SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING EVER
AGAIN FOR ANYTHING.
HERE'S MY THING, BILL, IF WE
WERE TO STOP TRUMP, WHICH IS MY
PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, DeSANTIS IS
MORE LIKELY TO DO THAT THAN ANY
OTHER DEMOCRAT, WHO THEY HAVE,
KAMALA?
LOSES IN A LANDSLIDE.
WHERE IS THE TALENT?
>> Katie: GOVERN ANYWAY TRUMP
NEVER HAS, NOT PLAGUED BY
SCANDAL.
>> Bill: HE IS WAY TOO
CONSERVATIVE BUT NOT NUTS.
GOT TO GO.
TIME FOR "NEW RULES."
THESE ARE CALLED MUSICAL
[APPLAUSE]
ALL RIGHT, NEW RULE,
NEW RULE: THE PEOPLE IN ADS FOR
BURIAL INSURANCE HAVE TO LOOK A
LITTLE LESS EXCITED TO BE ALMOST
DEAD.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE SOBER
COUPLES PLANNING FOR THE
INEVITABLE, YOU LOOK LIKE CULT
MEMBERS EXCITED TO GET SUCKED UP
BY THE RAPTURE.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
AND THINK OF WHAT BURIAL
INSURANCE MEANS -- YOU SPEND A
FORTUNE RAISING YOUR KIDS, AND
THEY WON'T EVEN PAY FOR YOUR
GODDAMN FUNERAL.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
NEW RULE: THIS SUMMER, INSTEAD
OF BUYING YOUR KIDS THESE NEW
KETCHUP POPSICLES, JUST ADMIT
YOU HATE THEM.
OH, THE REST OF THE KIDS GET
BURGERS AND FRIES.
YOU'LL SUCK ON THE CONDIMENT
PACK AND LIKE IT.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
THAT'S RIGHT KIDS, ENJOY YOUR
FROZEN KETCHUP TREAT, BECAUSE IF
YOU THINK IT CAN GET WORSE, I'VE
GOT TO WORK AWARDS YOU: MAYO
POPS.
[LAUGHTER]
NEW RULE: DONALD TRUMP HAS TO
KEEP MY NAME OUT OF HIS
MOTHERFUCKING MOUTH.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
LISTEN TO THIS.
LAST WEEKEND, HE TOLD HIS RALLY
THAT I'M A "RADICAL LEFT
MANIAC."
[LAUGHTER]
AND THAT I "LAUGH LIKE HELL AT
HOW STUPID" FOX NEWS IS.
YES, I DO.
GUILTY.
HE ALSO SAID THAT THEY, FOX
NEWS, THE ONES I LAUGH AT,
"KISS MY ASS," WHICH HE SAID
WAS, "NOT PARTICULARLY PRETTY."
[LAUGHTER]
OKAY, ONE, STOP LOOKING AT MY
ASS.
[LAUGHTER]
AND TWO, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT
TO GO THERE?
[APPLAUSE]
BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP, I WILL PUT
MY ASS UP AGAINST YOURS ANY
DAY -- OH, WAIT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
NEW RULE: SOMEONE HAS TO TELL
THE RARELY SEEN GOBLIN SHARK,
THAT GROWS UP TO 20 FEET, HAS
RAZOR-SHARP TEETH AND A MOUTH
THAT PROTRUDES AND BITES LIKE
THE MONSTER IN "ALIEN," YOU'RE
THE REASON I ONLY GO IN THE
OCEAN TO PEE.
[LAUGHTER]
AND, BY THE WAY, AN EXTRA
"SHAME ON YOU" FOR YOUR TINDER.
[LAUGHTER]
NEW RULE: NOW THAT THE WORLD
HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS INSISTED
WE COME UP WITH A NEW NAME FOR
MONKEYPOX THAT'S
"NON-DISCRIMINATORY AND NON
STIGMATIZING," THEY HAVE TO
INTRODUCE US TO THE MONKEY WHO
COMPLAINED.
[LAUGHTER]
AND THEN IMMEDIATELY FIRE HIM
FROM HIS JOB AT "THE WASHINGTON
POST."
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
HONESTLY, MONKEYS DON'T CARE.
I EVEN ASKED ONE.
I SAID, "HEY, MONKEY!
DO YOU CARE THAT IT'S CALLED
MONKEYPOX?"
AND HE JUST ROLLED HIS EYES AND
DID THIS.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
AND FINALLY, NEW RULE...
IF THERE'S ONE THING THE
JOHNNY DEPP TRIAL PROVED, IT'S
THAT IN THIS WORLD, YOU GOT TO
HAVE A GOOD LAWYER.
I WON'T REHASH THE GORY DETAILS
OF THE CASE, BUT THERE WERE SOME
BAD STUMBLES ON THIS SIDE, WHILE
CONVERSELY, THANKS TO
CAMILLE VASQUEZ, JOHNNY'S NAME
HAS BEEN CLEARED -- IF NOT HIS
BLOODSTREAM.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
POINT BEING, YOU NEED A GOOD
REPRESENTATIVE IN COURT -- WHICH
MADE ME THINK, WHERE ELSE DOES
THAT TERM "REPRESENTATIVE" COME
UP -- OH, YEAH, CONGRESS.
YOU SEE, IN THE AMERICAN
POLITICAL SYSTEM, THE PEOPLE ARE
REPRESENTED BY TWO SEPARATE YET
EQUALLY STUPID GROUPS: THE
REPUBLICANS, WHO NORMALIZE
CONSTITUTIONAL CRIMES, AND THE
DEMOCRATS, WHO PIT IDENTITY
GROUPS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
THESE ARE THEIR STORIES.
["DUN-DUN"]
[APPLAUSE]
LAST WEEK, AN 85% LATINO
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ON THE
BORDER WITH MEXICO, WHICH HAD
ALWAYS VOTED HEAVILY DEMOCRATIC
FLIPPED TO THE RED TEAM AND THE
CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR THE LOSING
DEMOCRAT SAID, "WE GAVE UP A
RELIABLY DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESSIONAL SEAT FOR NO REASON
AT ALL.
WE DESERVE TO KNOW WHY."
WELL, ASIDE FROM YOUR TERRIBLE
ATTITUDE, I'M GONNA TELL YOU
WHY.
BECAUSE THESE VOTERS STOPPED
SEEING YOUR CANDIDATE AS THEIR
LAWYER -- THAT'S WHY.
THEIR MESSAGE TO YOU WAS "I'M AN
AMERICAN NOW -- I'M HERE.
BE MY LAWYER, NOT THE LAWYER FOR
THE MIGRANTS SHOWING UP IN MY
BACKYARD."
'S [SCATTERED APPLAUSE]
EVERY MONTH, I SEE A NEW POLL
REPORTING HOW MUCH LATINOS
DESPISE THE WOKE TERM "LATINX."
IT'S ABOUT AS POPULAR WITH THEM
AS A REBOOT OF SPEEDY GONZALES.
[APPLAUSE]
EVEN THE COUNTRY'S OLDEST LATINO
CIVIL RIGHTS GROUP CAME OUT
AGAINST IT, YET AOC KEEPS
DEFENDING IT, SAYING, "GENDER IS
FLUID.
LANGUAGE IS FLUID."
YES, AND LATINO VOTERS ARE
FLUID.
[APPLAUSE]
AND MORE OF THEM NOW THAN
EVER ARE "IDENTIFYING" AS
REPUBLICAN.
SO ARE ASIAN-AMERICANS, WHOSE
SUPPORT FOR DEMOCRATS IS DOWN 16
POINTS SINCE THE LAST ELECTION.
A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE, IN THE
NAME OF ACHIEVING "EQUITY" IN
SCHOOLS, DEMOCRATS IN DEEP BLUE
CITIES HAVE MADE IT A MISSION TO
ELIMINATE THE ADVANCED PROGRAMS
AT WHICH ASIAN KIDS EXCEL.
ASIAN PARENTS SAID, "OKAY, I
WISH ALL KIDS WELL, NOT A
RACIST, BUT I NEED
SOMEONE WHO ACTS LIKE MY LAWYER.
IF YOU'RE A PARENT AND WANTED
SCHOOLS TO REOPEN A LOT SOONER
THAN THEY DID AFTER COVID
SHUTDOWNS, OR THINK MAYBE YOUR
KID IS GETTING A BAD EDUCATION
PARTLY BECAUSE IT'S NEARLY
IMPOSSIBLE TO FIRE A LOUSY
TEACHER.
YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA SAY, OK,
CONGRATULATIONS, TEACHERS, YOU
GOT YOURSELF A GOOD LAWYER --
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S GOT YOUR
BACK 100% -- BUT I'VE NOTICED MY
KID IS KIND OF AN IDIOT, SO I
MAY BE LOOKING FOR NEW
"REPRESENTATION."
PRESIDENT BIDEN WANTS TO CANCEL
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
IN STUDENT DEBT -- OKAY, BUT THE
POORER TWO-THIRDS OF AMERICAN
KIDS WHO DON'T GET A COLLEGE
DEGREE ARE GONNA SAY, "WHY
SHOULD THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GO
TO COLLEGE AND SO MAKE LESS
MONEY SUBSIDIZE THE PEOPLE WHO
DID GO AND MAKE MORE?
YOU WANT ME TO CHIP IN SO SOME
LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE CAN BUILD A
BIGGER ROCK WALL?
YOU'RE NOT MY LAWYER."
[APPLAUSE]
A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME
PROBABLY SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD TO A
LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITHOUT
A COLLEGE DEGREE, AND A NUMBER
OF CITIES HAVE BEEN RUNNING
PILOT PROGRAMS IN GUARANTEED
INCOME.
BUT THE WEST HOLLYWOOD PROGRAM
HAD TO BE SUSPENDED BECAUSE IT
WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THEY SET UP A PROGRAM WHERE 25
RESIDENTS WERE TO GET $1,000
FOR 18 MONTHS -- BUT ONLY
IF YOU IDENTIFIED AS LGBT.
THE REST OF THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY NEED MONEY
MORE THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE?
BECAUSE NO ONE IN WEST HOLLYWOOD
WILL HIRE A GAY PERSON?
[LAUGHTER]
WHEN HE RAN IN 2020, BERNIE
SANDERS SAID HE'D LEGALIZE
MARIJUANA ON HIS FIRST DAY AS
PRESIDENT.
BUT THAT THE BUSINESS OF SELLING
POT WOULD BE AWARDED FIRST TO
THOSE WHO SUFFERED MOST FROM THE
DRUG WAR, AND YOU KNOW WHAT,
I CAN'T ARGUE WITH
THAT INSTINCT -- THE DRUG WAR
HAS BEEN A HORRENDOUS INSTRUMENT
OF PREJUDICE AND PUNISHMENT FOR
RACIAL MINORITIES, SO IT SEEMS
FAIR THAT THEY WOULD JUMP THE
LINE FOR WEED FRANCHISES THE WAY
INDIANS DID FOR CASINOS.
BUT IT'S ALSO WHAT'S HOLDING UP
REPUBLICAN SUPPORT FOR
LEGALIZING WEED NATIONALLY,
WHICH WOULD BE GOOD FOR
EVERYBODY.
AND THOSE ARE THE HARD,
PRACTICAL CHOICES THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE TO WEIGH: REDRESS
THE PAST, OR REACH OUT TO THE
GETTABLE WHITE VOTER WHO SAYS,
"YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'D LIKE A SHOT AT GETTING IN
THE POT BUSINESS."
[APPLAUSE]
OUR ENTIRE AUDIENCE.
"BUT TO DO THAT I'M GONNA NEED A
LAWYER WHO FIGHTS FOR ME."
AND THEN THERE'S ABORTION: A
DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR THE
DEMOCRATS TO LOSE ON -- BUT
THEY'RE TRYING.
[LAUGHTER]
FOR DECADES, LIBERALS HAVE SAID
"IF ONLY MEN COULD GET PREGNANT,
THIS WOULDN'T EVEN BE AN ISSUE,"
AND "ABORTION RIGHTS ARE WOMEN'S
RIGHTS."
WELL, THAT'S WRONG NOW -- OR AS
THE KIDS SAY, "HOL' UP."
[LAUGHTER]
WHEN THE WOKEY END OF THE
PROGRESSIVE SPECTRUM TALKS ABOUT
ABORTION NOW, THEY SHY AWAY FROM
THE WORD "WOMEN," AND PREFER
TERMS LIKE "BIRTHING PEOPLE" OR
"PEOPLE WHO MENSTRUATE."
BECAUSE SOMEWHERE THERE'S A
TRANS MAN IS PREGNANT, AND I SAY
GOOD FOR HIM.
[LAUGHTER]
AND I'LL BE LOOKING FOR HIS
STORY SOMEWHERE IN A FUTURE
ISSUE OF "RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR
NOT."
[APPLAUSE]
OH, DEMOCRATS, LET'S TAKE THE
FIRST FUCKING WORD A HUMAN
ANIMAL UNDERSTANDS, MAMA.
[LAUGHTER]
AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING
BEST UNDERSTOOD BY FOUR
TROTSKYITES AT BERKELEY.
[LAUGHTER]
AS WITH ALL THESE ISSUES, THE
WAVERING VOTER IS SAYING TO HER
LAWYER, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
"HEY, SO HAPPY FOR YOU THAT YOU
HAVE SO MANY OTHER CLIENTS AND
THAT YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT
THEIR PROBLEMS, AND ALL
THE PRO BONO WORK YOU DO -- BUT
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY
LAWYER!"
THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE LIKE
THE LAWYERS YOU SEE ON
BILLBOARDS.
"YOU HURT?
WE FIGHT!"
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
"INJURED?
GET THE GORILLA!"
[LAUGHTER]
"MINSY MAKES THEM PAY!"
AND MY FAVORITE, "JUST BECAUSE
YOU DID IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE
GUILTY."
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
UH, IT DOESN'T?
I THINK IT DOES.
BUT THAT'S THE THING ABOUT A
LAWYER -- THEIR CLIENTS DON'T
CARE IF THEY SHADE THE TRUTH,
THEY CARE ABOUT WINNING.
YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO DO?
WIN ON THE TRUMP ISSUE -- FINISH
WHAT YOU STARTED WITH THE
JANUARY 6TH HEARINGS AND MAKE
SURE THE GUY WHO ABSOLUTELY WILL
TRY TO STEAL THE NEXT ELECTION
CAN'T RUN IN IT -- THAT'S WHAT I
WANT MY LAWYER TO DO.
[APPLAUSE]
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S OUR SHOW.
WE'RE OFF FOR A MONTH AND BACK
ON JULY 29TH.
'TIL THEN I'LL BE AT THE
NJ PERFORMING ART CENTER,
JULY 8TH, AT THE WANG CENTER IN
BOSTON, JULY 9TH, AND AT THE
MIRAGE IN VEGAS, JULY 22ND AND
23RD.
I WANT TO THANK ANDREW SULLIVAN,
KATIE HERZOG, AND
CHRISTINE EMBA.
STAY TUNED FOR "OVERTIME" ON
YOUTUBE.
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
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