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-So, it's like, look, I was --
I was reading the transcript

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from when we last spoke.
-Yeah.

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-And I was trying really hard.

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-Yeah.
-And you were...

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-Well, trying to do what,
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If I understand it,
I can respond, but...

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-Let Jerry speak!
Let Jerry speak!

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-Yeah, I'm trying
to get you to...

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-What?
-...explain who you are.

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-Well, that -- that -- that's --

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I find that kind of
a non-question, you know?

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-I know.
-So, I don't know what it means.

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-Well, how would you
describe yourself?

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-I wouldn't!
I wouldn't!

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-Governor, Governor,
Governor.

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-So, but what are you
trying to get at?

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What -- What --

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You wanted to
know something about something,

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but then I can respond
to it, but...

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-Just -- Just --
Just -- Just help me

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for these two hours
that neither of us rea--

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-Yeah, I'm trying to help you,
but you have to have

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a real event.
-So, just describe yourself!

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-There's no --
there's no kind of

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"who" existing in abstraction,

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so it's always doing
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-Just describe yourself.

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-No, I can't do that.

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-Back up! Back up!

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-Wedge! Wedge!
-Who is that?

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-Governor Brown!

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-Jerry's great strength is that
he is willing, sometimes eager,

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to take the path
not taken by others.

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-Give us a little elbow room,
guys!

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-Yeah.

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We're gonna do it
right here where he --

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I'm in place.

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I don't have a camera!

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NBC?
-Anybody who wants, go!

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-I need an NBC camera!

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-Jerry used to call it
"The art of the possible."

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That's what politics is.

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What is it possible to do?

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How far can you get?

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How much suffering
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-Uh, yeah.
I hope you can hear me.

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You probably can't see me,
but maybe you can hear me.

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-I can't hear you.

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-So many times in history,

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the right person arrives
at the right time and saves us.

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-Democratic headquarters
in the city of San Francisco,

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by now a deserted headquarters.

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The returns are in,
the election is over,

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and the Governor-elect
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Edmund G. "Pat" Brown,
till now our Attorney General,

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and I guess I'll have to get
used to that new appellation

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of "Governor," Pat.

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-Well, they've never called me
"General,"

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so I don't know whether they'll
ever call me Governor, either.

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Every-- Everyone,
even the janitors,

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the elevator operators,
and everyone,

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all call me Pat
in the state building,

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and I think they'll continue
to do that in Sacramento, too.

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-In East Coast circles
of elite opinion,

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California is often still seen
as the land of fruits and nuts.

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And what people miss
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unless they come and experience
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is that California
is incipiently America.

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For the past 60, 70,
80 years, at least,

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the things that happened,

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and eventually wash
over the rest of the country,

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tend to start here
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Pop culture.

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The environmental movement.

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Politics.

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-California,
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is such an important factor in
what happens in national policy,

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and the Browns
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that we have to a West Coast
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[ Explosion in distance ]

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-Pat Brown was really the father
of modern California --

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the creator
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the freeway infrastructure,
the water projects, and so on.

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So it was a huge legacy
for Jerry to try to live up to.

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-I was 20, 21, when
my father was governor.

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So, in that sense,
I got to see the governorship,

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not early in life
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-This was a kid who grew up
in the house of a politician,

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where everybody who came through
the door wanted something.

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He got a very deep,
visceral education

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about how things worked,

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and I think that sort of set
his own moral compass.

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-From an early age,
I was interested in Heaven,

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Hell, the saints, devils,
whatever you want to call it.

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That world that we learned
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through our Catholic training

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and ultimately Catholic school,
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-There was never a light touch
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He was a disrupter
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When he turned to religion,
he became very compulsive

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and intensely interested
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And then, of course, not just
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he decided he wanted
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-When you think about
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you know, you live and marry,
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you make money, you die.
So what's that all about?

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But in religion, the claim
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with the most important things.

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Eternity, salvation,
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these are really big,
big topics!

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We might call it
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where no television, no radio,
no magazines, no newspapers,

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only the Bible, working,
silence, prayer, meditation.

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My father, he probably didn't
like it 'cause he was active.

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He was a go-getter.

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He could not envision a 15-year
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with a lot of silence,
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and not a lot of action.

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-After two years
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you take your vows of chastity,

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poverty, and obedience,

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and Jerry's mother always said
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the one he would have difficulty
obeying was obedience.

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-In order for you to follow
a spiritual path,

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it has to grab you.

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It has to be something that

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you're caught by,
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And that progressively
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And so, at some point,
it became obvious

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that it was time
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which is what I did.

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-Jerry Brown talks about
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where Ginsberg wrote "Howl"

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and going to hang out there
and listening to jazz.

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-Leaving the seminary
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and encountering these --

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a totally
different world of ideas,

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and living at
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that's exciting.

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After I went to Yale Law School,

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I studied for the bar
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at the Governor's Mansion.

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I was just looking at law books,
falling asleep, it's so tedious.

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And then I walked down
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I saw my father,
and I could hear him.

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They were talking about
who's gonna run for governor,

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Pat Brown
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I found that very exciting.

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There was a vitality,
an intensity,

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maybe like watching an exciting
movie, but it wasn't a movie.

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It was a reality that was
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to be a part of.

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[ Crowd cheering ]

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-The manner in which the other
team has been campaigning,

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it's time that some people were
reminded that actors are people.

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-To me, it's rather, uh,
unbelievable that a person

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that has had
no governmental experience

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of any kind, nature,
or description,

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would be nominee
of a great political party.

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But the polls seem
to indicate that he's, uh --

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that he's running well ahead

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and everybody
seems to think he will,

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but I'm not so sure myself.

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-Today, in the state's new
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he said that he is running
partly because of Ronald Reagan.

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-I would say that, uh --
that the thought of a --

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of a Goldwater Republican
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does frighten me
and did play a part

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in my decision
to run again, yes.

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It looks now,
at this early days,

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like Mr. Reagan
has won this campaign.

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[ Cheering ]

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-We want Reagan!
We want Reagan!

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We want Reagan!
We want Reagan!

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We want Reagan!

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-Yes, sir,
how about that election?

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California's back to
a two-party system.

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Yes, sir.

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[ Applause ]

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The Democrats and the
Screen Actors Guild.

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[ Laughter and applause ]

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It's the biggest victory
for an actor

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since Charlton Heston
parted the Red Sea.

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[ Laughter ]

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When Ronny heard he was elected
governor, he was thrilled.

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He said, "Good.
Now, when do I get the script?"

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[ Laughter ]

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-Reagan's defeat
of Jerry's father, Pat,

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was a dramatic shift
for Democrats in California.

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-It meant that
Jerry and Kathleen

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were the only members
of the next generation

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who could return
the Brown family

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to the rightful place
in the state's legacy.

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And I'm sure that had to have
weighed very heavily on him.

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-Initially, I was not
that interested in politics,

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and I was more interested
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and personal quest
for those things

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that I thought were important.

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But through watching him,
I learned the skills

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and also the possibility
of political action,

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of doing something
not just for yourself

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but in cooperation
with other people.

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-At some point in his life,
he decided to run for office,

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knowing everything that
that meant by having grown up

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in the house of a governor

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and thinking that he could
do it differently.

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-I met Jerry 1969.

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His office was a few blocks
from mine, and he would come by.

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I helped him out
with some press releases,

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and at some time in the fall,

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he asked me
if I'd consider coming in

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to manage his campaign
for statewide office.

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At that time, Ronald Reagan
was re-elected, second term.

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Jerry was the only Democrat
to win statewide office.

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-That I will both well and
faithfully discharge...

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-...the duties upon
which I am about to enter.

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-...the duties upon which I am
about to enter.

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-The first time I heard
of Jerry Brown

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was when he was,
I think, Secretary of State.

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Jerry was one of those casual
kind of characters, very young,

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which I said to myself, "Wow!

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This is so different
than in Europe!"

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Because in Europe,
all the politicians,

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you have to be kind of
like at least

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50 years old
to be believable,

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that you have the wisdom
and the knowledge of things.

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I mean, here we have
Ronald Reagan

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who is one of the oldest
politicians at the time,

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and here we have one
of the youngest politicians,

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all at the same time,
same state.

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-Politically, things had been
more in the Republican's corner.

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You know, California had had
a Republican governor

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and administration
for eight years.

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But then came Watergate.

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-Just after Watergate,
Nixon resigns.

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Ford gives him a pardon.

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So you have a lot of skepticism

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about the integrity
of government,

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and compounded, of course,
by the protracted Vietnam War

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and the failure
and the frustration

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and the divisions
the Vietnam War created.

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So there had to be
more modesty,

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I would even say humility,
on the part of leadership

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because the currency of leaders
was very devalued.

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-I started talking to Jerry
a little bit about thinking

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of running
for Governor in '74.

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And he wasn't averse to
the idea, but he wasn't anxious.

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Now, Pat Brown, his father,
was adamant against it.

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Pat Brown took me out
to breakfast one day

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at the Polo Lounge
at the Beverly Hills Hotel

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and told me about
how Jerry couldn't win.

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"No one that young can win!
You can't win!

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Jerry, you're --"
And he said,

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"Tom, you're destroying
my son's career!

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And you're destroying
your career!"

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Said, "You'll never recover!

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Neither one of you!"

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-Jerry is like a decidedly
personal reaction,

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as a son often is.

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He's not a hail-fellow-well-met.

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There's something ascetic
about him.

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He didn't care about any of
the accoutrements of power.

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He wanted to do things.

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-Today, I'm announcing
my candidacy

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for the Democratic
nomination for governor.

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It's a decision
that I've arrived at

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after many months of reflection.

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♪♪

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The first obligation
of the state government

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is to develop
human potential.

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And let's talk about
the natural environment,

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the natural ecology,

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but while we do,
don't forget human ecology

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and the human environment.

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Now, what we face today
is a human crisis

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because hundreds of thousands
of people in this country

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are being relegated to
the backwaters of our society

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because they're not given
the education they need.

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-I literally looked his name
up in the phone book,

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for his campaign office.
[ Laughs ]

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And I just showed up
as a volunteer,

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and that's how I started
working with Jerry Brown.

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-It was exciting because
you felt this, like, optimism

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and this new world that we were
gonna create as young people.

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It was about investing
in this "new spirit,"

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I think, was the logo
of the campaign,

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that we were --
we needed a new spirit,

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and Jerry was it.

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-I think you want somebody who's
tough enough and strong enough

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and willing enough
to bring in that diversity.

302
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We have a diversity
in this state.

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We have a lot of different
points of view.

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You have an environmentalist
that sees one point of view,

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you have a developer
that sees another.

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We have to bring these people
together.

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Obviously, I was attracted

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to the limelight,

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attracted to the notoriety

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and all the engrossing
activities.

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It was different.
It was new.

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-We had a small campaign

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and didn't have the kind
of money that people have today.

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We had a very tough
primary fight

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against the assembly Speaker,

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the mayor of San Francisco.

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I mean, these were people
with more experience

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in government
than Jerry Brown had.

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-He has many candidates
running against him,

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very prominent leaders
in the Democratic Party,

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and they didn't quite have
his understanding

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of where things were
politically in the state,

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and, in fact, in the nation.

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-If your name were, say,
Edmund G. Green Jr.,

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would you be here today?

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-Now, he talks about
the fact that

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I, in a veiled reference,

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that my father was governor
and I have the same name.

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Obviously, that has an impact
in this election

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and my whole life!

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But also the fact
that Ronald Reagan

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ran in a landslide had something
to do with his being elected.

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And the fact that Reinecke
was indicted when he was ahead

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in the polls had something
to do with his election!

335
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So, let's not try to sift out
why he's elected

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or why I'm elected.

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Let's talk about the issues.
[ Applause ]

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-Mr. Brown,
there's many questions

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that haven't been answered yet,

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and a lot of people
would like to ask --

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-Are you working
in the Flournoy campaign?

342
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-No, I'm not.
I'm a student here.

343
00:15:31,366 --> 00:15:33,800
-Good, okay.
-Could you explain to me why --

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-You just have that -- you have
that glint in your eye that I...

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-Well, I'm dissatisfied!
[ Laughter ]

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Can you explain to me
why the...

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-And we still have no returns
from Los Angeles County,

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which, of course, is the largest
county in California,

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and so, we cannot really get
an accurate reading

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on what is going to be
happening in that race

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between Jerry Brown,

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the son of a former Democratic
Governor of California,

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and Houston Flournoy,
the state controller.

354
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They're in a contest to succeed
Governor Ronald Reagan,

355
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who has been
the Republican Governor there

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for eight years now.

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At the Flournoy headquarters in
Los Angeles is Gail Christian.

358
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,800
Gail?

359
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-Flournoy seems to be doing
fairly well in the suburbs.

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He seems to be picking up a lot
of the higher-income votes.

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-NBC's experts have decided
that, at this moment, still,

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the race between Brown and
Flournoy is too close to call,

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and so they have decided
not yet to project the winner.

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00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:34,766
-Why don't we look
at the California board now,

365
00:16:34,766 --> 00:16:36,466
just to show you what we have?

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There's California,

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with 18% of the precincts in,

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Houston Flournoy, uh,

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with 48% of the vote,

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and Edmund G. Brown, Jr.

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with 52% of the vote.

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-I've been looking
at the returns.

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I've been watching television,
watching the wire services,

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and it's pretty obvious
to me

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that you got a Democratic
governor in 1975!

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[ Cheers and applause ]

377
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,566
Now, you see, some people
think that --

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some people think I got here
because of my father.

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It's actually
because of my mother.

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[ Laughter, cheers, applause ]

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00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,066
Now, where is my father?

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Is he standing be--

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I want him to come forward.

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[ Cheers and applause ]

385
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,700
-Ah, Governor, would you
tell us, how much of a role

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00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:38,300
did you play
in Jerry's victory tonight?

387
00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:40,033
-I didn't play very much
of a role.

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00:17:40,033 --> 00:17:42,200
I think that, uh --

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that 23 years in public life

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and the eight years
of governorship

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helped him get started.

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I think that, uh, if his name
was Smith or Jones or something,

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he probably wouldn't have
gotten the start that he did.

394
00:17:53,666 --> 00:17:56,833
But after he got into it,
this was a tough competition.

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This was Major League politics,
and I think that he grew,

396
00:18:00,966 --> 00:18:04,733
and I think that there's
potential greatness in my son.

397
00:18:04,733 --> 00:18:06,300
-Jerry Brown would be a far
different governor

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00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:09,966
than was his father,
Edmund G. "Pat" Brown Sr.,

399
00:18:09,966 --> 00:18:12,833
when he served for eight years
in California.

400
00:18:12,833 --> 00:18:15,433
Jerry Brown is disdainful
of party machinery,

401
00:18:15,433 --> 00:18:16,833
as one example,

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00:18:16,833 --> 00:18:19,700
and certainly we'll be hearing
more about Jerry Brown,

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00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:21,600
and often.

404
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,433
-The machinery
of government runs on,

405
00:18:24,433 --> 00:18:26,966
and the moves to be made
by a governor

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00:18:26,966 --> 00:18:28,600
are relatively limited.

407
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,333
And when you realize you can
have a Republican governor

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00:18:31,333 --> 00:18:32,633
or a Democratic governor,

409
00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:35,966
depending upon which one,
the script is written,

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00:18:35,966 --> 00:18:39,633
and all you have to do
is perform it.

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I wanted to think, "What could
I do as governor that,

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if I weren't there,
would not be done?"

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00:18:53,766 --> 00:18:56,800
What are we --
What are we doing here?

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Who stands behind us?

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Today, I signed my first
executive order

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requiring every department
of the state of California

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to cooperate with local
government and private business

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and develop effective strategies
to implement the job programs

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that have been put into law,

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both under Nixon
and under our present president.

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We have the money.

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00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,433
It's shocking when we can't
put it to work.

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♪♪

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At the age of 36, to be elected
Governor of California

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was very exciting.

426
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I don't know whether people
think we just do this

427
00:19:34,933 --> 00:19:37,233
because we're doing good
for the world.

428
00:19:37,233 --> 00:19:40,766
It's a very personal,
fulfilling, exciting thing.

429
00:19:40,766 --> 00:19:43,000
-One of his first acts
was to cut down

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the governor's personal staff.

431
00:19:44,866 --> 00:19:47,466
And he refused a raise
for himself.

432
00:19:47,466 --> 00:19:52,200
He sold the governor's executive
jet and travels commercially.

433
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,400
He sends back all the perks
and gifts

434
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,500
that pour into
a governor's office,

435
00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,666
even the lifetime pass
to Disneyland

436
00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:00,266
that goes with the job.

437
00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:02,533
-Jerry says to me,
"I don't want a limo.

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Don't have them order
a limousine for me.

439
00:20:04,833 --> 00:20:08,766
Just have them take out
of the motor pool a car

440
00:20:08,766 --> 00:20:12,000
they would make available
to a legislator

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00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,466
or a member of the cabinet."

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00:20:13,466 --> 00:20:16,433
So, we're walking out
of the legislature,

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walking across Capital Park,

444
00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:22,900
and there's one car waiting,
and it's powder blue.

445
00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:25,366
Not royal blue, powder blue!

446
00:20:25,366 --> 00:20:29,900
So he looks at me and he says,
he says, "Gray, is that my car?"

447
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And I said, "I'm afraid it is."

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♪♪

449
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-Three days after
his inauguration,

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the new governor
introduced his cabinet

451
00:20:42,566 --> 00:20:45,900
and called it the best
in the history of California.

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♪♪

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-Most of the people
were in their 30s,

454
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,566
maybe one or two in their 40s,
and it was exciting!

455
00:20:53,566 --> 00:20:55,400
-Jacques Barzaghi was certainly

456
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,100
the most unusual
political strategist

457
00:20:57,100 --> 00:21:00,333
I ever ran across in 40 years
of writing about politics.

458
00:21:00,333 --> 00:21:02,166
MyNew York Times
colleague Alessandra Stanley

459
00:21:02,166 --> 00:21:04,166
wrote a profile of him
in which she described him

460
00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:07,566
as "the man who puts the frost
on the California flake."

461
00:21:07,566 --> 00:21:09,966
-Jacques was
Jerry's street smarts.

462
00:21:09,966 --> 00:21:14,166
There was something still boyish
and wide open about him.

463
00:21:14,166 --> 00:21:16,300
And Jacques was the guy
who'd grab his elbow

464
00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:19,066
and pull him
in a doorway in a riot.

465
00:21:19,066 --> 00:21:23,066
-There's an excitement to those
early years in the '70s.

466
00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:24,733
You know, he did a lot of things

467
00:21:24,733 --> 00:21:29,933
that changed the literal face
of what government looks like.

468
00:21:29,933 --> 00:21:33,266
-The cabinet was half women
or people of color,

469
00:21:33,266 --> 00:21:34,333
first gay judge.

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00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:36,533
It was for the people
by the people,

471
00:21:36,533 --> 00:21:38,000
and that was real.

472
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,233
-Governor, you were indicating
that government, in itself,

473
00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:41,966
might be a barrier
for women entering it.

474
00:21:41,966 --> 00:21:43,833
What can you do
to break that barrier?

475
00:21:43,833 --> 00:21:46,266
-By putting women in
the significant boards,

476
00:21:46,266 --> 00:21:48,900
the, uh, Board of Governors
as the lawyers,

477
00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:50,733
the quality board
for the doctors,

478
00:21:50,733 --> 00:21:53,166
the contractors board,
the athletic commission,

479
00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:54,400
the contractors board,

480
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,933
the funeral board,
the architecture board.

481
00:21:56,933 --> 00:22:00,433
These are the commissions
that have the power to decide

482
00:22:00,433 --> 00:22:03,000
who becomes a professional
and who is excluded

483
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,433
and what the professional
standards are.

484
00:22:05,433 --> 00:22:08,566
-The way that he would
approach a problem

485
00:22:08,566 --> 00:22:12,800
was just by continuing
to dig and dig

486
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,833
until he felt he knew
the right answer.

487
00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:19,233
-What I learned was, don't make
the first meeting

488
00:22:19,233 --> 00:22:21,700
in the morning
too interesting,

489
00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:24,700
'cause if it's interesting,
it's gonna go on all day.

490
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Wherever I left him
is where I would find him

491
00:22:27,266 --> 00:22:30,066
when I came back, whether it was
an hour or a week,

492
00:22:30,066 --> 00:22:34,966
because he was so, um,
absorbed by the task at hand

493
00:22:34,966 --> 00:22:38,366
that he would stay at it
until some external force,

494
00:22:38,366 --> 00:22:40,933
usually me or someone else,
came into the room

495
00:22:40,933 --> 00:22:43,766
and told him he had to go out
and do something else.

496
00:22:43,766 --> 00:22:47,433
-He did kind of lock himself
into the governor's office.

497
00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:49,700
He lived across the street
on a mattress.

498
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:50,666
He was the monk.

499
00:22:50,666 --> 00:22:53,733
He was still, you know,
the monk.

500
00:22:53,733 --> 00:22:55,766
-How often do you want to meet?

501
00:22:55,766 --> 00:22:57,500
-Why this format here?
-Why not?

502
00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,233
I like to -- I get --
You know, it gets boring

503
00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:00,700
always doing it
the same way, doesn't it?

504
00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:03,266
I mean, don't you like
to change what you do?

505
00:23:03,266 --> 00:23:05,000
Woodrow Wilson started
the press conference,

506
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,133
but he said that -- whatever
he said was not to be quoted

507
00:23:08,133 --> 00:23:10,933
but could only
be used as guidance.

508
00:23:10,933 --> 00:23:12,066
[ Laughter ]

509
00:23:12,066 --> 00:23:14,000
And then, as the press began
to ask him

510
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,566
embarrassing questions
about his daughters,

511
00:23:16,566 --> 00:23:19,500
he said that he would thrash
them, and finally gave it up!

512
00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:21,733
And never had
news conferences anymore!

513
00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:22,966
-Do you feel that way?
-No!

514
00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,000
I'm just kind of getting
to enjoy them.

515
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,566
-Well, then why did you
bring that up?

516
00:23:26,566 --> 00:23:27,733
[ Laughter ]

517
00:23:27,733 --> 00:23:29,033
-Because I thought the whole
thing ought to be

518
00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:31,900
put in historical perspective.

519
00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:33,966
-He's very honest
with the press.

520
00:23:33,966 --> 00:23:36,566
He'll just say things
that no one else would say.

521
00:23:36,566 --> 00:23:38,333
And Gerald Ford had become
president,

522
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:40,433
and Jerry's over
in San Francisco,

523
00:23:40,433 --> 00:23:42,366
his first meeting
with Gerald Ford.

524
00:23:42,366 --> 00:23:44,566
Afterwards, he comes out
and someone says,

525
00:23:44,566 --> 00:23:46,633
"So, Governor,
the new President,

526
00:23:46,633 --> 00:23:49,766
uh, can you give us
your impressions?"

527
00:23:49,766 --> 00:23:53,400
And he said, "Well,
I went in with low expectations,

528
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,166
and they were fulfilled."

529
00:23:55,166 --> 00:23:58,400
I cringed.
But, uh, that's Jerry.

530
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,233
-Are you gonna be --
Uh, what do you do now?

531
00:24:00,233 --> 00:24:02,666
Are you...
What's the next step?

532
00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:05,000
-Right now, as Jerry
probably knows,

533
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,500
we've been working
like hell with the staff

534
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:10,566
that we've got, trying to
zero in on the error rate.

535
00:24:10,566 --> 00:24:12,133
And know what's happened?

536
00:24:12,133 --> 00:24:14,700
Error rate's going up.

537
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:17,100
-Why is that?
'Cause you found it, you mean?

538
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:18,533
This is one of the problems
in this game!

539
00:24:18,533 --> 00:24:22,133
If you work too hard,
things get worse.

540
00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:24,700
-That's exactly
what's happening with it.

541
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:28,866
-The harder you swim upstream,
the faster you go downstream.

542
00:24:28,866 --> 00:24:30,533
So, it's a very strange world.

543
00:24:30,533 --> 00:24:32,066
It's "Alice In Wonderland."

544
00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:35,700
-There were other politicians,
they're never at a loss.

545
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,000
Jerry's much more transparent,

546
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,033
and his ideas come
bursting out of him.

547
00:24:41,033 --> 00:24:42,800
And there's something
about that, you look at him,

548
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,400
and you say, "Oh, yeah,
this guy's not pretending."

549
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,466
-I think we ought
to have someone

550
00:24:46,466 --> 00:24:47,833
on the Air Resources Board

551
00:24:47,833 --> 00:24:50,366
who knows something about smog,
who wants to fight it,

552
00:24:50,366 --> 00:24:54,033
and wants to make sure that
the air in this state is clean.

553
00:24:54,033 --> 00:24:57,000
-Jerry Brown was more than
just a little bit ahead

554
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,400
of where most people
in politics were.

555
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,933
He was ahead of where a lot
of academics and activists

556
00:25:02,933 --> 00:25:06,300
were in making the connection
between air pollution

557
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:10,266
and the effect that this was all
going to have on the climate.

558
00:25:10,266 --> 00:25:13,533
He brought in a number of people
who were interested

559
00:25:13,533 --> 00:25:18,033
in taking a much stronger line
on behalf of the government.

560
00:25:18,033 --> 00:25:19,966
-At least I think, right now,

561
00:25:19,966 --> 00:25:22,000
that we can have far more
stringent standards

562
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,033
for our 1977 models
and still have substantially

563
00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:28,000
improved mileage
in the automobiles.

564
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800
-The whole habitat, the species,

565
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,566
how the air, the rain,
the poison, all that stuff,

566
00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:36,466
those are physical laws,

567
00:25:36,466 --> 00:25:39,666
and you just can't
disobey them with impunity,

568
00:25:39,666 --> 00:25:42,633
so you gotta get
on the side of nature.

569
00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:44,933
-Reagan created
the Air Resources Board

570
00:25:44,933 --> 00:25:46,666
because he hated pollution.

571
00:25:46,666 --> 00:25:48,500
But when Jerry Brown
became Governor,

572
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,433
it's not just with
the Air Resources Board

573
00:25:50,433 --> 00:25:51,900
but, "Here's what
we need to do!

574
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,800
You got to have solar panels
everywhere.

575
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,666
You got to have windmills
everywhere.

576
00:25:55,666 --> 00:25:57,700
We got to have
renewable energy."

577
00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:59,333
People, of course, in the '70s,

578
00:25:59,333 --> 00:26:01,800
said, "What is this guy
talking about?"

579
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,033
-He got it.

580
00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:05,000
He was listening to
the science at the time,

581
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,066
very early on in climate change,
absolutely,

582
00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:09,433
and before anybody
ever used the term.

583
00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:17,266
-I've tried, very early on,
to present ideas that,

584
00:26:17,266 --> 00:26:20,533
at the time, were not
the conventional wisdom.

585
00:26:20,533 --> 00:26:22,933
I talked about an era of limits,

586
00:26:22,933 --> 00:26:27,233
limits that were political,
economic, and environmental.

587
00:26:27,233 --> 00:26:28,900
Certainly, there have been books
written about this,

588
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:30,866
but it wasn't
the normal politics

589
00:26:30,866 --> 00:26:32,800
not to promise
more and more.

590
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,366
I think later events
have validated that,

591
00:26:37,366 --> 00:26:42,266
and the era in which we will
pass is one of great change.

592
00:26:42,266 --> 00:26:45,600
And if I do anything,
I think it's,

593
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,333
uh, to understand change,
to manage it,

594
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:52,766
and to explain it to the people
that have to live under it.

595
00:26:52,766 --> 00:26:56,033
♪♪

596
00:26:56,033 --> 00:26:58,200
-I remember he once told me,
he said, "Part of leadership

597
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,266
is taking an idea
that will naturally gravitate

598
00:27:01,266 --> 00:27:04,000
from sort of the periphery
of society

599
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,200
to the heart of society,

600
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600
and help move it
from the periphery

601
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,233
to the middle much faster."

602
00:27:10,233 --> 00:27:13,266
And you do that by start--
by talking about that

603
00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:17,066
well before anyone else
talks about it.

604
00:27:17,066 --> 00:27:19,333
-There are so many
contending impulses

605
00:27:19,333 --> 00:27:22,866
and thoughts
running through his mind.

606
00:27:22,866 --> 00:27:26,966
A deep moral reservoir
that's in conflict

607
00:27:26,966 --> 00:27:30,933
with something
that I don't fully understand,

608
00:27:30,933 --> 00:27:34,266
but the part of it
that makes it the most valuable

609
00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:39,333
is that it's always in struggle
with some moral, upright sense.

610
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:43,600
♪♪

611
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,266
-The whole scene with
agriculture in this country

612
00:27:45,266 --> 00:27:48,133
has been using minorities
to produce the labor.

613
00:27:48,133 --> 00:27:50,066
We really want to change
the whole scene in agriculture.

614
00:27:50,066 --> 00:27:52,566
We want to make farm workers
as equal to every other worker

615
00:27:52,566 --> 00:27:54,200
in this country
and as well respected.

616
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,200
-Jerry Brown.
[ Applause ]

617
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,800
-Jerry was just elected
governor,

618
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,900
and the Farmworker Union
was trying to build.

619
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:04,666
Cesar Chavez was facing
great opposition,

620
00:28:04,666 --> 00:28:08,400
and Jerry was a central figure
in bringing people together.

621
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,533
-Ever since the '30s, people
have been trying to get a bill.

622
00:28:12,533 --> 00:28:14,766
Franklin Roosevelt tried
to get a farm labor bill.

623
00:28:14,766 --> 00:28:15,966
We've got one.

624
00:28:15,966 --> 00:28:18,500
-Twice a month, at 6:00,

625
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:20,433
we would all stop
what we were doing,

626
00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:23,700
and in would come Cesar Chavez,
prominent growers,

627
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:25,600
including the Farm Bureau,

628
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,966
and each would have
their own office.

629
00:28:28,966 --> 00:28:31,933
And Jerry would shuttle
from office to office,

630
00:28:31,933 --> 00:28:33,500
trying to knit together

631
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,733
some legislation
they can all get behind.

632
00:28:35,733 --> 00:28:38,333
And that would go on until,
you know, 10:00, 10:30 at night.

633
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:41,600
-Ayes, 63.
No's, 10.

634
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,766
The measure is passed.

635
00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:49,266
-No other state in the country
had, or has, ever passed one.

636
00:28:49,266 --> 00:28:50,833
We're the only state.

637
00:28:50,833 --> 00:28:52,866
-In the first six months
of its existence,

638
00:28:52,866 --> 00:28:56,033
the Farm Labor Board, the first
such panel in the nation,

639
00:28:56,033 --> 00:28:58,566
monitored 400 union elections.

640
00:28:58,566 --> 00:29:00,666
The historic legislation
has been hailed

641
00:29:00,666 --> 00:29:03,900
as one of Jerry Brown's major
accomplishments as governor.

642
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,133
-Yeah, Jerry Brown has been

643
00:29:05,133 --> 00:29:07,066
very good
to the farm workers.

644
00:29:07,066 --> 00:29:08,400
He hasn't been perfect
by a long shot,

645
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,233
but he has, more than
any other governor,

646
00:29:11,233 --> 00:29:13,166
recognized the needs
of farm workers.

647
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:16,233
-Although his term of office

648
00:29:16,233 --> 00:29:18,066
is less than a year old,

649
00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:19,766
Governor Brown is scoring

650
00:29:19,766 --> 00:29:22,066
record approval at the polls,

651
00:29:22,066 --> 00:29:25,766
and the question is,
how is he accomplishing this?

652
00:29:25,766 --> 00:29:28,933
A question that vexes
and fascinates

653
00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:30,866
professional political
observers.

654
00:29:30,866 --> 00:29:33,700
♪♪

655
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:38,133
-He mused a little bit
about running for president,

656
00:29:38,133 --> 00:29:40,766
but it never hit me as a --

657
00:29:40,766 --> 00:29:41,933
anything that was imminent.

658
00:29:41,933 --> 00:29:45,666
[ Indistinct conversations ]

659
00:29:45,666 --> 00:29:47,633
-So, Jerry, he says to me,

660
00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:50,666
"I want you to call over
three people from the press,

661
00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:55,333
at 4:00
on a Friday afternoon."

662
00:29:55,333 --> 00:29:58,133
So, after about six or seven
hypothetical questions,

663
00:29:58,133 --> 00:29:59,233
someone asked him,

664
00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:00,866
"Well, are you
running for president?"

665
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:04,066
He says, "I guess I am."

666
00:30:04,066 --> 00:30:05,466
That was his announcement.

667
00:30:05,466 --> 00:30:07,033
-Governor, do you see yourself
as the last bastion

668
00:30:07,033 --> 00:30:08,100
to stop Carter?

669
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:12,933
-I don't try to define
my objectives

670
00:30:12,933 --> 00:30:14,733
in terms of the opposition.

671
00:30:14,733 --> 00:30:16,866
I'm representing a --
an alternative,

672
00:30:16,866 --> 00:30:19,500
a new generation of leadership
for this country,

673
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,033
and I want people
to judge that

674
00:30:22,033 --> 00:30:24,133
on its own merits
and -- and not,

675
00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:27,300
uh, as any effort
to block anyone else.

676
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:28,800
Long shot?

677
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,300
Well, I wouldn't say that
I've got it locked up yet.

678
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,633
[ Laughter ]

679
00:30:32,633 --> 00:30:34,500
-I -- [ Laughs ] --

680
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:41,233
thought that it was typical
of how Jerry Brown operates.

681
00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:43,566
-That night,
Gray called me and said,

682
00:30:43,566 --> 00:30:45,566
"Mickey, would you
come to Sacramento?

683
00:30:45,566 --> 00:30:47,066
Jerry wants you to run
his campaign."

684
00:30:47,066 --> 00:30:49,933
I said, "His campaign for what?"

685
00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:51,000
He was governor.

686
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,666
He says,
"Campaign for president."

687
00:30:52,666 --> 00:30:54,433
I said, "You're kidding."

688
00:30:54,433 --> 00:30:55,566
-I thought Jimmy Carter --

689
00:30:55,566 --> 00:30:57,066
I didn't think
he was that strong,

690
00:30:57,066 --> 00:30:58,833
and he was just
another governor, too,

691
00:30:58,833 --> 00:31:00,400
of a much smaller state.

692
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,566
So, I said, "Why not?
I think I have a chance.

693
00:31:04,566 --> 00:31:06,666
What have I got to lose?"
So, I did.

694
00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:08,866
They're gonna say, "You're
not ready, you're too young.

695
00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:10,533
What are you doing this for?"

696
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:13,133
But I've gotten in it
because I really think

697
00:31:13,133 --> 00:31:15,166
the American people
deserve a better choice.

698
00:31:15,166 --> 00:31:17,333
And after a year of campaigning,

699
00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:20,900
these fellows on the trail
have not produced much.

700
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,333
-We got a call from Jerry,
basically,

701
00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:23,833
"I'm gonna run for president."

702
00:31:23,833 --> 00:31:26,100
By the way, the Oregon primary
was 11 days later

703
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,700
and we weren't on the ballot."

704
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:29,500
-Another biblical, uh, text

705
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,833
that goes something like --
that the laborer

706
00:31:32,833 --> 00:31:35,533
who enters the field
at the eleventh hour

707
00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:38,966
is as worthy of hire as he
who enters at the first hour.

708
00:31:38,966 --> 00:31:41,866
And I'm coming at the eleventh
hour, and I'd like a chance!

709
00:31:41,866 --> 00:31:43,100
Will you give it to me?

710
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:48,366
♪♪

711
00:31:48,366 --> 00:31:51,366
-Jerry was a rock star.

712
00:31:51,366 --> 00:31:54,800
He was like for real
a rock star.

713
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,733
-For somebody who really liked
to be in his own bubble

714
00:31:58,733 --> 00:32:01,433
and left alone,
when we went out,

715
00:32:01,433 --> 00:32:04,733
people wanted
to be close to that energy.

716
00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:06,200
-You would just show up,

717
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,233
and there was 20,000 people
in Maryland at a rally,

718
00:32:09,233 --> 00:32:12,366
and, you know, celebrities
that were flying on planes

719
00:32:12,366 --> 00:32:14,300
and being his spokespeople
everywhere.

720
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:17,433
It was literally like
we got lifted up.

721
00:32:17,433 --> 00:32:21,733
-Let me present to you,
my friend, Jerry Brown!

722
00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:26,366
He was so new, he was so
attractive as a candidate,

723
00:32:26,366 --> 00:32:28,933
following what we all
experienced

724
00:32:28,933 --> 00:32:30,700
with the Kennedys.

725
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:35,866
Jerry was the next generation
of that kind of a politician.

726
00:32:35,866 --> 00:32:39,366
-I know what a very popular
young man Governor Brown is,

727
00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:42,566
and I'm sure it will make it
much more difficult for --

728
00:32:42,566 --> 00:32:45,233
for me in California,
but it won't deter me at all,

729
00:32:45,233 --> 00:32:47,866
and Governor Brown knows

730
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:50,000
that no matter what he does,
I'll be here.

731
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,033
-Pretty good. How are you?

732
00:32:51,033 --> 00:32:53,233
-Give 'em hell.
Give 'em hell.

733
00:32:53,233 --> 00:32:55,433
-Though Brown acknowledges
he has an uphill battle,

734
00:32:55,433 --> 00:32:57,800
he insists he's still
a viable alternative

735
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,300
as a presidential candidate.

736
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,066
After all, he says, he's the
freshest of the fresh new faces.

737
00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:04,666
Bettina Gregory, ABC News,

738
00:33:04,666 --> 00:33:08,300
with the Brown campaign
in Providence, Rhode Island.

739
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,766
-He won in Maryland!

740
00:33:10,766 --> 00:33:12,866
He won in Oregon,
the largest write-in

741
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:15,133
that's ever been
recorded in that state!

742
00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:16,333
And as Doonesbury says,

743
00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:18,333
"I think that's pretty good
for winging it!"

744
00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:20,733
[ Cheers and applause ]

745
00:33:20,733 --> 00:33:22,766
-The fact is, is that legally,

746
00:33:22,766 --> 00:33:24,700
there are less than
1,100 delegates

747
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,366
who are obligated
to vote for him.

748
00:33:26,366 --> 00:33:28,300
That leaves all the other
delegates

749
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,066
open to persuasion.

750
00:33:30,066 --> 00:33:32,166
This thing is a national
phenomenon.

751
00:33:32,166 --> 00:33:35,200
It makes sense to me
to continue to move forward.

752
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:39,900
-In every primary where he
and Carter were competing,

753
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:41,533
Jerry won,
but it was too late.

754
00:33:41,533 --> 00:33:43,500
Carter had the delegates
and, you know,

755
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,533
we had our first taste
of a national campaign.

756
00:33:45,533 --> 00:33:47,033
It was exciting.

757
00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:48,900
-So, the Brown campaign
continues to,

758
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:51,000
what appears to be,
an inevitable conclusion,

759
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,800
though, obviously,
the Governor cannot afford

760
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,466
to admit that at this time.

761
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,900
In the Governor's words,
"Until the process is over,

762
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:59,366
it's a bit premature
to write the finale."

763
00:33:59,366 --> 00:34:04,966
-I think we were in a universe
that we were also alien to.

764
00:34:04,966 --> 00:34:08,166
There is a machine,
and you are not part of it,

765
00:34:08,166 --> 00:34:09,733
and it was very clear.

766
00:34:09,733 --> 00:34:12,333
[ Cheers and applause ]

767
00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:15,100
-We want Brown!
We want Brown!

768
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:21,166
We want Brown!
We want Brown!

769
00:34:21,166 --> 00:34:23,633
-The years ahead, we've got
a lot of work to do.

770
00:34:23,633 --> 00:34:25,533
I don't think it's going to
be done in a hundred days

771
00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:27,066
or a thousand days.

772
00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:30,466
It's a long, difficult struggle
to live within our environment

773
00:34:30,466 --> 00:34:32,666
and work together
and bring about justice.

774
00:34:32,666 --> 00:34:34,300
I think Jimmy Carter
can do that.

775
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:36,966
He's proved it to you,
he's proved it to me,

776
00:34:36,966 --> 00:34:38,800
and I just want to be
able to announce

777
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,066
that the California delegation
votes 278 votes

778
00:34:43,066 --> 00:34:44,333
for Mr. Carter,

779
00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:46,700
and we're on our way
to bring this country

780
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,333
back into the Democratic
column!

781
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:49,433
Thank you very much!

782
00:34:49,433 --> 00:34:52,366
[ Cheers and applause ]

783
00:34:52,366 --> 00:34:56,133
♪♪

784
00:34:56,133 --> 00:34:57,966
Was it impetuous?
Yes.

785
00:34:57,966 --> 00:35:01,800
Might I followed my own advice
of pausing?

786
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,100
I might have.

787
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:05,400
Might have been --
might have turned out better.

788
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,166
You do something,
it's on television,

789
00:35:08,166 --> 00:35:12,100
people get excited, well,
what do you do the next day?

790
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:13,300
What about the next day?

791
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,966
The next week, the next month,
the next year?

792
00:35:15,966 --> 00:35:19,033
-The Governor's been known for
doing things in an unusual way.

793
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:20,533
His bid for another four years

794
00:35:20,533 --> 00:35:21,600
was leaked yesterday

795
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,733
in a brief memo

796
00:35:22,733 --> 00:35:24,633
announcing that his top aide
had resigned

797
00:35:24,633 --> 00:35:26,533
to run the re-election campaign.

798
00:35:26,533 --> 00:35:28,433
Today,
almost as an afterthought,

799
00:35:28,433 --> 00:35:29,866
he made it official.

800
00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:31,800
-It's no secret.

801
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,533
I'm going to seek another term
as governor of California.

802
00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:37,966
The last 3 1/2 years

803
00:35:37,966 --> 00:35:41,666
have provided an opportunity
to build for the future,

804
00:35:41,666 --> 00:35:46,066
with respect to energy, jobs,
schools, human rights.

805
00:35:46,066 --> 00:35:48,700
This has been
a state second to none.

806
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:54,033
♪♪

807
00:35:54,033 --> 00:35:56,766
-His running for president
didn't help in the sense that

808
00:35:56,766 --> 00:35:58,800
it seemed like
he abandoned California a bit.

809
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,433
So it looked as though
the re-election could be

810
00:36:01,433 --> 00:36:03,233
a bit of a challenge.

811
00:36:03,233 --> 00:36:07,500
-Jerry was a fairly unpopular
first-term governor.

812
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:10,533
He had really stirred things up
over appointments,

813
00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:16,133
over policies, and everybody
was screaming for relief

814
00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:18,533
from the high
property-tax increases,

815
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:21,233
which were funding schools
and all kinds of other things.

816
00:36:21,233 --> 00:36:23,700
-Some of the people of
California are mad as hell,

817
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:25,833
and they aren't
going to take it anymore.

818
00:36:25,833 --> 00:36:28,533
The Pied Piper who leads them
flutes a tune with words

819
00:36:28,533 --> 00:36:31,533
like, "Cut taxes by 57%."

820
00:36:31,533 --> 00:36:34,233
His name is Howard Jarvis.

821
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:35,933
He and another retired
businessman

822
00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:39,600
lead a statewide campaign
calling California's tax system

823
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,533
"grand felony theft."

824
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:44,966
-What Proposition 13 did is,

825
00:36:44,966 --> 00:36:47,200
it locked the property tax

826
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,833
in at 1% of --
of the value,

827
00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:53,100
and it didn't trigger
an increase

828
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:56,133
until the property sold.

829
00:36:56,133 --> 00:36:58,666
It caught fire and there was
no stopping that train.

830
00:36:58,666 --> 00:37:00,566
That train left the station,

831
00:37:00,566 --> 00:37:03,700
and Democrats
and Republicans, governors,

832
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,566
and everybody
responsible in Sacramento,

833
00:37:06,566 --> 00:37:10,766
did not see that train coming,
and they got run over by it.

834
00:37:10,766 --> 00:37:13,300
-When 13 came along,
I certainly, for a moment,

835
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,366
thought, "Well, maybe
I should support it."

836
00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:18,433
But, of course, all my allies,

837
00:37:18,433 --> 00:37:21,000
and many of the things
that I strongly believe in,

838
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,100
are supported
by the property tax.

839
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:27,333
And so, this -- the way it was
framed in Prop 13,

840
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:29,000
it was way overkill.

841
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,233
It's gonna take money
from people

842
00:37:30,233 --> 00:37:32,133
working in convalescent homes.

843
00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:33,566
It's gonna take money
from people

844
00:37:33,566 --> 00:37:35,166
who are trying to put out fires,

845
00:37:35,166 --> 00:37:36,733
people who are trying
to protect the city,

846
00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:38,466
people who are working
in schools.

847
00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:40,500
And it's gonna give to
the telephone company,

848
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,000
it's gonna give to Standard Oil,

849
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,800
and 10 other large companies
a $431 million tax break.

850
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,866
And I don't think they need it
when their profits are double

851
00:37:50,866 --> 00:37:52,733
what they are anywhere else
in the country

852
00:37:52,733 --> 00:37:54,700
and when the needs
of this state are so great.

853
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:59,033
That's why I'm for Proposition 8
and against 13.

854
00:37:59,033 --> 00:38:02,600
-The '78 campaign
was really intense.

855
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,566
He could have lost.

856
00:38:04,566 --> 00:38:08,133
And that's when he had to change
sides on Prop 13.

857
00:38:08,133 --> 00:38:10,533
-Today I hear the voters
want more of that,

858
00:38:10,533 --> 00:38:13,733
and they want that spirit
of frugality from Sacramento

859
00:38:13,733 --> 00:38:16,333
to San Diego
to the Oregon border,

860
00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:19,500
and I will do my best
to carry it out.

861
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,433
When it passed, it's not just
another vote

862
00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:24,366
where some candidate is elected.

863
00:38:24,366 --> 00:38:28,166
This was an alteration
of the California Constitution,

864
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:30,900
which, as a governor,
I take an oath to uphold.

865
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:32,866
So, this is the Constitution,

866
00:38:32,866 --> 00:38:35,600
and it's my job to enforce it,
which I did.

867
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,200
So, it wasn't about compromise.
It was just "is."

868
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,966
This is what --
This is the task now.

869
00:38:39,966 --> 00:38:45,966
-We have districts that will
have to cut back at least 60%,

870
00:38:45,966 --> 00:38:47,433
some 50%.

871
00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:48,900
The average is 35%.

872
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:52,666
Whenever you make those kind
of cutbacks in education,

873
00:38:52,666 --> 00:38:55,366
which is people-dominated --

874
00:38:55,366 --> 00:39:01,200
80% of -- of the schools'
expenditure is in personnel.

875
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,300
Now, when you have to make
those drastic cutbacks,

876
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,100
you're not talking about
giving up paper clips

877
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,200
and scratch paper and pencils.

878
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,100
You're talking about people.

879
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,966
-The concerned county leaders
want state income taxes

880
00:39:13,966 --> 00:39:17,000
to be used to pay for health
and welfare programs

881
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,566
now supported by the soon-to-be
slashed property tax.

882
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:21,966
But Governor Brown warned them,

883
00:39:21,966 --> 00:39:25,266
Proposition 13 means
more than a financing shift.

884
00:39:25,266 --> 00:39:28,366
It means an era
of reduced services.

885
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:31,066
-It is a vote to cut back,

886
00:39:31,066 --> 00:39:34,033
to be more lean,
to be more frugal,

887
00:39:34,033 --> 00:39:37,866
to be more thoughtful about what
government does with people.

888
00:39:40,433 --> 00:39:44,000
-That's, I would say,
when Jerry Brown

889
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
"The New Spirit"
became a "politician."

890
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,233
And, um, it was...

891
00:39:53,633 --> 00:39:57,333
...um, heartbreaking for him.

892
00:39:57,333 --> 00:39:58,866
-He was always a politician.

893
00:39:58,866 --> 00:40:01,000
I mean he'd grown up
watching his father.

894
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,466
He knew!
He got it.

895
00:40:03,466 --> 00:40:05,933
He got it from a very early age.

896
00:40:05,933 --> 00:40:08,666
Didn't mean he liked it,
didn't mean he approved of it,

897
00:40:08,666 --> 00:40:11,000
but he understood it.

898
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,333
-But is there something
different here?

899
00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:15,700
Is there a new Jerry Brown?

900
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:19,133
At 40, he says of himself,
"I'm in passage."

901
00:40:19,133 --> 00:40:21,866
In '74, Brown displayed
an open animosity

902
00:40:21,866 --> 00:40:25,133
toward the former Governor
of California, Pat Brown.

903
00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:27,500
But this year he seems
to have changed.

904
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:31,333
Jerry Brown has invited
his father into his campaign.

905
00:40:32,933 --> 00:40:35,366
-Any politician that's
successful has to work

906
00:40:35,366 --> 00:40:38,966
with the zeitgeist of his time.

907
00:40:38,966 --> 00:40:40,666
Otherwise,
you can't even be heard.

908
00:40:40,666 --> 00:40:43,466
What are you supposed to do,
say "no"?

909
00:40:43,466 --> 00:40:44,966
And so, I dealt with it.

910
00:40:44,966 --> 00:40:47,033
And here's the paradox
of politics.

911
00:40:47,033 --> 00:40:50,000
Because we got a problem,
because I got to solve it --

912
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,966
'cause who else was gonna
solve it except the governor --

913
00:40:52,966 --> 00:40:56,400
then I got all the notoriety
for that.

914
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,733
[ Indistinct conversations ]

915
00:40:58,733 --> 00:41:01,133
-We're at The Bonaventure Hotel
in Los Angeles,

916
00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:02,633
and this is
Brown headquarters,

917
00:41:02,633 --> 00:41:06,933
and the few people
who have gathered here so far

918
00:41:06,933 --> 00:41:08,633
have been told to move
toward the television sets now,

919
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,066
because what is
expected to happen --

920
00:41:10,066 --> 00:41:12,933
the polls just closed
a minute or two ago --

921
00:41:12,933 --> 00:41:14,000
what is expected to happen

922
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,633
within the next
couple of minutes...

923
00:41:15,633 --> 00:41:18,200
[ Cheering ]

924
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,033
And apparently,
it has happened.

925
00:41:20,033 --> 00:41:22,600
Is that someone has made
the first projection

926
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,966
that their man,
Governor Jerry Brown,

927
00:41:24,966 --> 00:41:26,600
is going to be the winner.

928
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,200
♪♪

929
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,333
-These guys do what they need
to do to win,

930
00:41:33,333 --> 00:41:35,566
and that's why they win.

931
00:41:35,566 --> 00:41:36,900
His father did the same.

932
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:38,366
You know, he learned
at his father's knee,

933
00:41:38,366 --> 00:41:43,800
he learned about politics,
and, uh, you know,

934
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,933
he, you know, he was a very,
very effective campaigner,

935
00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:49,833
very effective campaigner
and politician

936
00:41:49,833 --> 00:41:53,000
and very good at his,
uh, at his craft.

937
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,400
-I think we ought to rethink
what it is we're trying to do

938
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,600
because the one thing
everybody understands

939
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,066
is that we need money,

940
00:42:02,066 --> 00:42:04,300
and the people in the cities
come to the state

941
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,266
and they want money,
and the people in the state

942
00:42:06,266 --> 00:42:08,733
get on an airplane
and they go back to Washington,

943
00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:10,066
and they get more money.

944
00:42:10,066 --> 00:42:13,233
I think we get a lot further
if we accept the limits

945
00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:16,233
instead of trying
in some Faustian way

946
00:42:16,233 --> 00:42:20,100
to reach for the moon or reach
for the end of the rainbow

947
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:23,266
and fail because it's an
impossible task to begin with.

948
00:42:23,266 --> 00:42:27,833
-Democratic legislators
were so turned off

949
00:42:27,833 --> 00:42:33,666
by his posture on simple things
like how you raise money,

950
00:42:33,666 --> 00:42:38,466
and he did not
glad-hand and cultivate.

951
00:42:38,466 --> 00:42:40,933
And so, it was not a good mix.

952
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:45,400
-Well, these things are often
as much chemistry as they are,

953
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,666
uh, legalistic language.

954
00:42:47,666 --> 00:42:49,700
And I would just say that
the chemistry

955
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,533
of the situation
was such that,

956
00:42:51,533 --> 00:42:54,700
when added to the adjustments
offered and accepted,

957
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:57,800
uh, the votes
were arrived at.

958
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,400
-He's a quintessential
California politician,

959
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,800
as is Ronald Reagan.

960
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,933
They're flip sides
of the same coin.

961
00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:06,733
They're both masters
of the media,

962
00:43:06,733 --> 00:43:08,866
uh, masters of the buzzword,

963
00:43:08,866 --> 00:43:12,566
masters of the 20-second
summation of the world.

964
00:43:12,566 --> 00:43:15,666
-Jerry Brown was overridden
numerous times,

965
00:43:15,666 --> 00:43:20,433
on budget matters,
on all sorts of things.

966
00:43:20,433 --> 00:43:24,033
'Cause he had no sway,
really, in the legislature.

967
00:43:24,033 --> 00:43:25,733
He had no stature.

968
00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:27,866
They thought he was
this snot-nosed kid.

969
00:43:27,866 --> 00:43:32,233
-This month invests $5 million
in the practical application

970
00:43:32,233 --> 00:43:35,633
of satellite technology
for communications

971
00:43:35,633 --> 00:43:39,833
and monitoring
of our natural resources.

972
00:43:39,833 --> 00:43:42,133
-We were spending millions
of dollars a year

973
00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:44,433
on just telephone service
for the state government.

974
00:43:44,433 --> 00:43:46,300
He said, "Well, my God,
we can launch a satellite

975
00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:47,633
and save money."

976
00:43:47,633 --> 00:43:49,900
And Mike Royko,
who was a columnist

977
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:55,333
for theChicago Sun-Times,
dubbed him "Governor Moonbeam."

978
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:57,933
-Royko meant it as a putdown,

979
00:43:57,933 --> 00:44:01,333
and Jerry,
I'll just never forget,

980
00:44:01,333 --> 00:44:04,900
looking at me just with
such vulnerability, saying,

981
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:07,200
"You know, the first time
I heard them

982
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,600
call me Governor Moonbeam,
I thought it was a compliment."

983
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:18,833
Because he thought it meant that
he was an adventurous thinker.

984
00:44:18,833 --> 00:44:21,533
-I didn't see it as
any big deal.

985
00:44:21,533 --> 00:44:24,400
I'm used to seeing,
reading about,

986
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,133
and, hopefully avoiding,
scandal,

987
00:44:27,133 --> 00:44:29,100
problems, big screw-ups.

988
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,466
That's what brings down
politicians on a regular basis.

989
00:44:33,466 --> 00:44:37,500
So, I didn't put "Governor
Moonbeam" in that category.

990
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:39,800
-Well, you're all over
the front page of magazines,

991
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,333
gossip magazines if you will.

992
00:44:41,333 --> 00:44:43,266
It's become
a national subject,

993
00:44:43,266 --> 00:44:44,433
if you will,Usmagazine.

994
00:44:44,433 --> 00:44:45,833
-I'm not unaware of that,

995
00:44:45,833 --> 00:44:48,933
but I think I can retain
some private space,

996
00:44:48,933 --> 00:44:51,000
at least for a few years
longer.

997
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,900
-Are you a confirmed bachelor?
-No.

998
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:55,433
-It hadn't been for the fact
that I got to see him on TV

999
00:44:55,433 --> 00:44:57,666
every night, I'd have forgotten
what he looked like.

1000
00:44:57,666 --> 00:45:00,366
So...

1001
00:45:00,366 --> 00:45:01,466
But he came back yesterday.

1002
00:45:01,466 --> 00:45:04,900
He's gonna make it
all better now.

1003
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:07,833
-It is said that politics
makes strange bedfellows,

1004
00:45:07,833 --> 00:45:09,866
but in this case,
Brown and Ronstadt

1005
00:45:09,866 --> 00:45:12,700
seem to represent
the ultimate interaction

1006
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,800
between politics
and show business.

1007
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,700
-They were good for each other.

1008
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,933
Two people that are in
a rarefied universe

1009
00:45:20,933 --> 00:45:22,200
find each other,

1010
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,233
and are just normal people
together is so sweet.

1011
00:45:26,233 --> 00:45:27,633
-I think she lived in Malibu.

1012
00:45:27,633 --> 00:45:29,366
He was living in Laurel Canyon,

1013
00:45:29,366 --> 00:45:32,833
splitting his time between
Sacramento and Los Angeles

1014
00:45:32,833 --> 00:45:35,100
and, you know,
living in his apartment.

1015
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:38,266
Just kind of added
to the glamour

1016
00:45:38,266 --> 00:45:40,066
around a kind of already

1017
00:45:40,066 --> 00:45:41,800
glamorous governorship.

1018
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,433
-California's Governor
Jerry Brown

1019
00:45:43,433 --> 00:45:45,333
is in the African nation
of Kenya tonight

1020
00:45:45,333 --> 00:45:47,166
to watch the wild animals,

1021
00:45:47,166 --> 00:45:48,966
but everybody else seemed
to be more interested

1022
00:45:48,966 --> 00:45:50,566
in watching him
and his companion,

1023
00:45:50,566 --> 00:45:52,100
singer Linda Ronstadt.

1024
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:53,600
Rumors say that
they will get married

1025
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,566
with Mount Kilimanjaro
in the background,

1026
00:45:55,566 --> 00:45:58,900
but Brown says most of the
rumors you hear are not true.

1027
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:01,833
-As to rumors of any marriage
while I was away,

1028
00:46:01,833 --> 00:46:03,166
those were not true

1029
00:46:03,166 --> 00:46:06,300
and I think were
generally invented

1030
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:08,733
by some of
the more enterprising

1031
00:46:08,733 --> 00:46:10,866
members of the fourth estate.

1032
00:46:10,866 --> 00:46:12,666
-How is she as
a travelling companion, sir?

1033
00:46:12,666 --> 00:46:14,600
[ Laughter ]

1034
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,766
-I'll never tell.

1035
00:46:15,766 --> 00:46:17,633
[ Laughter ]

1036
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,933
-Linda was terrific.

1037
00:46:19,933 --> 00:46:22,133
She and Jerry were very close.

1038
00:46:22,133 --> 00:46:25,900
I think ultimately maybe

1039
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:30,133
two stars couldn't exist
in the same place.

1040
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:32,966
-Gasoline shortages are
spreading across the country.

1041
00:46:32,966 --> 00:46:35,033
Odd/Even service,
gasoline lines,

1042
00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:38,333
and closed gas stations are
becoming increasingly common.

1043
00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:43,666
-When you went on your legendary
African vacation, April the 6th,

1044
00:46:43,666 --> 00:46:45,466
you were away 10 days.

1045
00:46:45,466 --> 00:46:46,633
The state was in trouble.

1046
00:46:46,633 --> 00:46:48,666
The oil shortage had hit.

1047
00:46:48,666 --> 00:46:50,666
First, why did you go away
in that crisis?

1048
00:46:50,666 --> 00:46:52,966
And second, why didn't you
act immediately?

1049
00:46:52,966 --> 00:46:55,966
-Well, I think I acted faster
than anyone in the United States

1050
00:46:55,966 --> 00:46:59,066
in the announcement
of the Odd/Even Program

1051
00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:01,100
that is now operating
in California.

1052
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:02,633
-I can tell you,
it isn't working.

1053
00:47:02,633 --> 00:47:04,200
It's a fiasco.

1054
00:47:05,633 --> 00:47:07,300
-Jerry Brown, during
his first term,

1055
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,266
probably created
more political capital

1056
00:47:10,266 --> 00:47:11,866
than any governor
in any state.

1057
00:47:11,866 --> 00:47:15,966
There was no political prize
that was outside his reach.

1058
00:47:15,966 --> 00:47:19,700
In the second term,
he just squandered it all.

1059
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:23,733
-The second term starts
to feel really heavy,

1060
00:47:23,733 --> 00:47:26,366
and Jerry's about freshness,
he's about ideas

1061
00:47:26,366 --> 00:47:29,066
and he's about
making fresh things happen.

1062
00:47:29,066 --> 00:47:34,300
And maybe that culture
is what encouraged him

1063
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:36,966
to run for president in '80.

1064
00:47:36,966 --> 00:47:38,300
♪♪

1065
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:39,566
-The times call out

1066
00:47:39,566 --> 00:47:42,566
for discipline and provision.

1067
00:47:42,566 --> 00:47:46,033
Because I see neither,
I offer myself

1068
00:47:46,033 --> 00:47:48,000
as a candidate
for the presidency.

1069
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000
[ Applause ]

1070
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,766
-Carter was not popular,
so he saw blood in the water,

1071
00:47:53,766 --> 00:47:57,633
and so, he jumped in
and started running.

1072
00:47:57,633 --> 00:48:00,766
-♪ I am Governor Jerry Brown ♪

1073
00:48:00,766 --> 00:48:03,766
♪ My aura smiles
and never frowns ♪

1074
00:48:03,766 --> 00:48:07,066
♪ Soon I will be president ♪

1075
00:48:07,066 --> 00:48:10,766
-Well, in 1976, I ran
in a few states and I won.

1076
00:48:10,766 --> 00:48:13,433
So, I thought, "Well, 1980,
I have more experience,

1077
00:48:13,433 --> 00:48:16,866
I've been a governor,
this should be even easier.

1078
00:48:16,866 --> 00:48:20,500
-I don't know if he learned
something in the '76 run.

1079
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,466
If he did, he didn't apply it
'cause he got in late again.

1080
00:48:23,466 --> 00:48:25,366
We did not set up the structure.

1081
00:48:25,366 --> 00:48:27,666
We didn't even qualify to get
delegates in New York,

1082
00:48:27,666 --> 00:48:29,233
for instance,
for the primary there.

1083
00:48:29,233 --> 00:48:32,000
-California Governor Jerry
Brown's presidential campaign

1084
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,566
suffered a setback today

1085
00:48:33,566 --> 00:48:35,266
when the New York State
Board of Elections

1086
00:48:35,266 --> 00:48:37,566
ruled that almost two thirds

1087
00:48:37,566 --> 00:48:40,000
of Brown's signatural petitions
were valid.

1088
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,166
That action, which comes at the
request of Kennedy supporters,

1089
00:48:43,166 --> 00:48:47,533
takes Brown off the New York
state March 25th primary ballot.

1090
00:48:47,533 --> 00:48:50,300
It also denied him any shot
at a share

1091
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:54,100
of New York's 282
convention delegates.

1092
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:56,800
-Look, I'm not going to
psychoanalyze Jerry Brown.

1093
00:48:59,233 --> 00:49:00,933
I wasn't involved
in those conversations,

1094
00:49:00,933 --> 00:49:04,166
so I don't know why,
what the -- what the theory was

1095
00:49:04,166 --> 00:49:05,733
and what they could do to win.

1096
00:49:05,733 --> 00:49:08,633
-Realizing that you were up
against a well-funded machine

1097
00:49:08,633 --> 00:49:09,966
that had everything,

1098
00:49:09,966 --> 00:49:11,966
and then you had Kennedy
in the wings

1099
00:49:11,966 --> 00:49:16,933
waiting to come in,
so, it was...

1100
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:19,900
we were out of our depths.

1101
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,400
-I ended up running Wisconsin.

1102
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,200
It was his make-or-break state.

1103
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,866
He had to win this. There were
crossover voters or whatnot.

1104
00:49:28,866 --> 00:49:30,600
And I think we were
making some progress.

1105
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,366
He did pretty well.

1106
00:49:32,366 --> 00:49:34,600
But he was looking
for the moon shot.

1107
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,966
And he talked
Francis Ford Coppola

1108
00:49:36,966 --> 00:49:39,566
into coming out
and putting on a big rally.

1109
00:49:39,566 --> 00:49:44,000
[ Crowd cheering ]

1110
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,300
-Citizens, I speak to you
today...

1111
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:49,766
[ No audible dialogue ]

1112
00:49:49,766 --> 00:49:50,900
[ Crowd shouting ]

1113
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:52,566
-I was there watching it live.

1114
00:49:52,566 --> 00:49:55,133
Well, I was watching it
on a TV monitor.

1115
00:49:55,133 --> 00:49:58,766
It was a technological disaster.

1116
00:49:58,766 --> 00:50:03,333
-Even the technologies of this
age need some human assistance.

1117
00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:06,566
[ Crowd cheers ]

1118
00:50:06,566 --> 00:50:08,266
I'm gonna to talk to you tonight

1119
00:50:08,266 --> 00:50:11,566
about this country
the way I see it.

1120
00:50:11,566 --> 00:50:14,366
-Sometimes I watch it just to
get a really good laugh.

1121
00:50:14,366 --> 00:50:16,333
Because it was...

1122
00:50:16,333 --> 00:50:19,100
I was like, "Oh," I just was,
"Oh, the campaign's over."

1123
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,133
[ Laughs ]

1124
00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:23,800
-So far, Jerry Brown
has finished dead last

1125
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,300
in every race he's entered --
last in Iowa, last in Maine,

1126
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:28,800
and last in New Hampshire.

1127
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,466
He has failed to win
even one delegate.

1128
00:50:31,466 --> 00:50:32,833
The question is why?

1129
00:50:32,833 --> 00:50:35,100
Why is he faltering
so badly now,

1130
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:37,666
after doing so well
four years ago?

1131
00:50:37,666 --> 00:50:41,100
-This political business,
I think in recent years,

1132
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,300
has become almost like
a TV series.

1133
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:47,533
When it's brand-new,
and if it's good, it catches on

1134
00:50:47,533 --> 00:50:49,866
and it goes to the top
of the ratings overnight.

1135
00:50:49,866 --> 00:50:51,300
It's a big hit.

1136
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,733
But it can wear out
just as quickly.

1137
00:50:53,733 --> 00:50:57,033
-He won one delegate.

1138
00:50:57,033 --> 00:50:59,033
In Wisconsin he won
one delegate,

1139
00:50:59,033 --> 00:51:01,266
and that was the end
of his campaign.

1140
00:51:01,266 --> 00:51:05,333
-It is obvious that the voters
have spoken

1141
00:51:05,333 --> 00:51:10,166
and have given their verdict
on my 1980 campaign.

1142
00:51:10,166 --> 00:51:14,133
♪♪

1143
00:51:14,133 --> 00:51:15,966
I must say, in retrospect,

1144
00:51:15,966 --> 00:51:19,133
I underestimated
the power of incumbency,

1145
00:51:19,133 --> 00:51:20,700
the power
of the sitting president.

1146
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:23,500
And so, it was doomed
from the beginning,

1147
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:25,400
but I didn't understand that.

1148
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,500
So, that is where,

1149
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,600
uh, in retrospect,
in reflecting on that,

1150
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,466
I come to the idea
that you can have an idea,

1151
00:51:33,466 --> 00:51:37,266
and you can be clear about it
and certain about it,

1152
00:51:37,266 --> 00:51:38,833
and completely wrong.

1153
00:51:38,833 --> 00:51:42,600
-Will you concede that your
presidential ambitions in 1980,

1154
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,600
and to some extent in 1976,
were, I guess, were responsible

1155
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,966
for a sharp drop in your
popularity in California?

1156
00:51:48,966 --> 00:51:51,033
-Yes, I would.

1157
00:51:51,033 --> 00:51:52,466
-Ladies and gentlemen,
the Governor

1158
00:51:52,466 --> 00:51:54,900
of the State of California,
the senate and assembly of...

1159
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:57,166
-Governor Brown has proposed
to the legislature

1160
00:51:57,166 --> 00:52:00,633
what he calls a responsible
and fair state budget,

1161
00:52:00,633 --> 00:52:03,300
a record $27 billion.

1162
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:06,633
It is in fragile balance,
a crapshoot some have called it,

1163
00:52:06,633 --> 00:52:09,533
because it makes a number of
assumptions that are not safe.

1164
00:52:09,533 --> 00:52:11,700
-Economists are divided
in their forecasts,

1165
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,166
both for next year
and succeeding years.

1166
00:52:15,166 --> 00:52:16,766
It may be that the economy
next year

1167
00:52:16,766 --> 00:52:20,300
will lift our revenue hopes,
or it may dash them.

1168
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:22,700
In the face of such uncertainty,

1169
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:26,600
I'm not going to recommend new
taxes that might not be needed.

1170
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
I didn't think a third term
would make sense.

1171
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,333
I thought of that early on,
before even my second term.

1172
00:52:35,333 --> 00:52:39,000
People lose their edge,
people get tired of you,

1173
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,566
you've had a lot
of controversies.

1174
00:52:41,566 --> 00:52:45,366
I didn't fully grasp
all the details,

1175
00:52:45,366 --> 00:52:49,333
but more than eight years
did not seem wise to me.

1176
00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:53,666
And, uh, I was thinking maybe of
just not running for anything,

1177
00:52:53,666 --> 00:52:55,533
but people that worked
with me,

1178
00:52:55,533 --> 00:52:58,300
they said, "No, you gotta run,
you gotta be in office."

1179
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:01,100
So, the Senate was
the only logical place.

1180
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:04,100
So, I was a little reluctant,
but I finally decided, "Okay,

1181
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:05,500
let's run for the Senate."

1182
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:09,400
[ Indistinct conversations ]

1183
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,966
-Jerry Brown really can't be
second to anything or anybody.

1184
00:53:12,966 --> 00:53:16,200
After he's president, he will
probably pursue the popeship,

1185
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,666
and from there
some other place.

1186
00:53:17,666 --> 00:53:20,100
I think Jerry Brown
sincerely believes that,

1187
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:23,266
uh, his kind of politics
is what this nation needs

1188
00:53:23,266 --> 00:53:25,600
and what the world needs
in order to lead

1189
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,033
the world out of chaos
into outer space or some other,

1190
00:53:29,033 --> 00:53:32,866
uh, celestial area
where things are beautiful.

1191
00:53:32,866 --> 00:53:34,666
I think that's what
Jerry Brown envisions,

1192
00:53:34,666 --> 00:53:36,833
and Jerry Brown has
a holy mission

1193
00:53:36,833 --> 00:53:38,166
headed in that direction.

1194
00:53:38,166 --> 00:53:40,566
-We are the state that gave
the nation Ronald Reagan,

1195
00:53:40,566 --> 00:53:43,000
and I think we ought
to give them a second message

1196
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,200
that we can do better,

1197
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,166
that we want
a full employment economy,

1198
00:53:46,166 --> 00:53:49,166
we want jobs in our state,
throughout the whole country.

1199
00:53:49,166 --> 00:53:50,900
[ Cheers and applause ]

1200
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:52,033
-I told him, I said,
"Look, Jerry,

1201
00:53:52,033 --> 00:53:53,766
I think you're making
a big mistake

1202
00:53:53,766 --> 00:53:55,733
and I think
you're gonna regret it.

1203
00:53:55,733 --> 00:53:57,666
But you don't need
my help anymore.

1204
00:53:57,666 --> 00:54:00,066
And, you know, call me

1205
00:54:00,066 --> 00:54:02,500
if there's something
I can do to help."

1206
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,666
-His performance as a taxer
and as a spender

1207
00:54:05,666 --> 00:54:09,066
is far more in keeping
with the unhappy traditions

1208
00:54:09,066 --> 00:54:11,466
of the Congress
which have put the United States

1209
00:54:11,466 --> 00:54:15,533
in a position where we're having
to work to bring down a deficit.

1210
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:18,100
Certainly, his experience
in Sacramento

1211
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:19,833
does not give confidence
to the voters

1212
00:54:19,833 --> 00:54:22,633
that he would be one of
the leaders in cutting spending.

1213
00:54:22,633 --> 00:54:25,966
-I recognize that, after you've
been in there eight years,

1214
00:54:25,966 --> 00:54:27,333
I got a lot to work on.

1215
00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:28,900
I've made tough decisions.

1216
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:30,466
I've stepped on toes.

1217
00:54:30,466 --> 00:54:31,966
I've made mistakes.

1218
00:54:31,966 --> 00:54:33,366
I acknowledge that.

1219
00:54:33,366 --> 00:54:36,200
If you don't do anything
but cut ribbons, if you just,

1220
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,500
uh, run your city there
in a quiet way

1221
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,666
without ever having to take
an unpopular stand,

1222
00:54:40,666 --> 00:54:43,033
you have a nice image.

1223
00:54:43,033 --> 00:54:45,566
-In that particular race,
even though Pete Wilson

1224
00:54:45,566 --> 00:54:48,266
had an image
and a name of his own,

1225
00:54:48,266 --> 00:54:50,133
it really was all about
Jerry Brown,

1226
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:51,800
how he had performed
as governor,

1227
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,300
the strengths and weaknesses of

1228
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:55,200
his candidacy, of his service.

1229
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,333
So, the race really was
a referendum on Jerry Brown.

1230
00:54:58,333 --> 00:55:00,600
-In California, San Diego
mayor Pete Wilson

1231
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,833
has defeated Governor Brown
in the Senate race.

1232
00:55:03,833 --> 00:55:05,566
-We were still leading
in the polls

1233
00:55:05,566 --> 00:55:06,833
all the way up
to the election day

1234
00:55:06,833 --> 00:55:10,766
and in the exit polls,
and then lost.

1235
00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:12,400
I will never forget that.

1236
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,466
I was shocked.

1237
00:55:14,466 --> 00:55:16,533
Jerry was shocked.

1238
00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:18,166
Everybody was shocked.

1239
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,833
-I don't think Jerry ever wanted
to be in the Senate.

1240
00:55:25,833 --> 00:55:28,066
He doesn't have
a legislative DNA.

1241
00:55:28,066 --> 00:55:30,233
He has an executive DNA.

1242
00:55:30,233 --> 00:55:33,033
And so I don't think
his heart was in it.

1243
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:37,933
-If he'd have won
that Senate seat in '82,

1244
00:55:37,933 --> 00:55:39,966
he would have been
perfectly set up to run

1245
00:55:39,966 --> 00:55:43,100
for president
in '88, in '92.

1246
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:46,366
He blew it!
He blew it.

1247
00:55:46,366 --> 00:55:49,433
He would have had a legitimate
chance of becoming

1248
00:55:49,433 --> 00:55:53,500
President of the United States
if he hadn't have been so eager

1249
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:58,033
to do it early
in his political career.

1250
00:55:58,033 --> 00:56:01,100
-That was the kind of governor
he was. He took chances.

1251
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:05,333
Uh, he was slightly ahead
of his time, um,

1252
00:56:05,333 --> 00:56:06,433
and he was willing to pay

1253
00:56:06,433 --> 00:56:08,033
the price
of being ahead of his time.

1254
00:56:08,033 --> 00:56:10,000
-For the past eight years,
this man has been

1255
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,233
one of the best-known,
most controversial, outspoken,

1256
00:56:13,233 --> 00:56:15,833
imaginative politicians
in America.

1257
00:56:15,833 --> 00:56:18,800
Now, at age 44, he's about
to be out of a job.

1258
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,033
Governor Jerry Brown,

1259
00:56:20,033 --> 00:56:23,500
who lost the California
Senate race, what now?

1260
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:25,333
-I believe that the people
of California

1261
00:56:25,333 --> 00:56:27,766
would like a respite from me,

1262
00:56:27,766 --> 00:56:30,200
and in some ways,
I'd like a respite from them.

1263
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,500
So, uh, each of us will --
will withdraw from each other,

1264
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:37,833
and after a period of time,

1265
00:56:37,833 --> 00:56:41,733
my services will be available
in some interesting capacity.

1266
00:56:41,733 --> 00:56:57,633
♪♪

1267
00:56:57,633 --> 00:57:02,033
After you're running for office
and all of a sudden you stop,

1268
00:57:02,033 --> 00:57:05,333
what do you do?

1269
00:57:05,333 --> 00:57:09,233
I had it in my mind to, at some
point, come back into politics,

1270
00:57:09,233 --> 00:57:12,533
so I wanted to prepare myself
and learn about things

1271
00:57:12,533 --> 00:57:14,166
and do things.

1272
00:57:14,166 --> 00:57:17,733
In '86, I went to the Jesuit
University of Sophia

1273
00:57:17,733 --> 00:57:19,333
and I said, "I'd like
to talk to somebody

1274
00:57:19,333 --> 00:57:21,766
who can tell me
about Zen Buddhism."

1275
00:57:21,766 --> 00:57:23,533
They said, "If you want
to practice Zen,

1276
00:57:23,533 --> 00:57:26,900
you need to go
to Yamada Roshi."

1277
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:29,333
[ Bell dinging ]

1278
00:57:29,333 --> 00:57:31,100
-[ Speaking native language ]

1279
00:57:50,333 --> 00:57:52,366
-There was a,
what you call a zendo,

1280
00:57:52,366 --> 00:57:55,566
and that was a small building
next to a home,

1281
00:57:55,566 --> 00:57:57,766
where this Zen teacher,

1282
00:57:57,766 --> 00:58:00,200
he had what was called
a lay practice.

1283
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,066
So I learned about the history,
but also just Zen meditation,

1284
00:58:04,066 --> 00:58:06,466
usually two hours every night.

1285
00:58:06,466 --> 00:58:08,966
Very unusual for a former
governor,

1286
00:58:08,966 --> 00:58:15,233
very unusual for a politician,
but also very instructive.

1287
00:58:15,233 --> 00:58:19,200
-I think Jerry and Jacques
were in Japan for a year.

1288
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,200
I think he wanted to reflect.

1289
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,600
Maybe he was going back to where
he started in the priesthood,

1290
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,700
as a place to regroup
and as a way to collect himself,

1291
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:31,733
'cause I think losing the Senate

1292
00:58:31,733 --> 00:58:34,966
was probably
pretty devastating for him,

1293
00:58:34,966 --> 00:58:37,333
because it didn't make
any sense.

1294
00:58:37,333 --> 00:58:40,800
-Then the next year, I then went
and visited Mother Teresa

1295
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,333
and worked with her.

1296
00:58:42,333 --> 00:58:45,133
She said, "Well, you should go
work at The Home for the Dying,"

1297
00:58:45,133 --> 00:58:46,700
and I did that.

1298
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:48,466
The reason I went there
was to see how,

1299
00:58:48,466 --> 00:58:51,466
in the face of misery,
one person,

1300
00:58:51,466 --> 00:58:55,266
by just taking the first step,
can really make a change

1301
00:58:55,266 --> 00:58:58,833
and not be overwhelmed
by cynicism or despair

1302
00:58:58,833 --> 00:59:01,100
or the enormity
of the problems.

1303
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,066
Because we can get
very negative about,

1304
00:59:03,066 --> 00:59:04,366
well, the crime rate,

1305
00:59:04,366 --> 00:59:06,633
the poverty rate,
the environment,

1306
00:59:06,633 --> 00:59:10,033
and that leads to cynicism
and that separates us.

1307
00:59:10,033 --> 00:59:12,666
I wanted to see this woman,
this saint,

1308
00:59:12,666 --> 00:59:16,033
who is not overcome by evil,
as it were,

1309
00:59:16,033 --> 00:59:19,066
but overcomes it
with a very pure heart.

1310
00:59:19,066 --> 00:59:21,866
-You know, working with Mother
Teresa gave him a satisfaction

1311
00:59:21,866 --> 00:59:25,166
that I think he didn't get
from those last years

1312
00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:28,200
in the governor's office.

1313
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,500
I remember talking to him
at one point, he asked me,

1314
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:32,266
"Do you still read
a newspaper every day?"

1315
00:59:32,266 --> 00:59:33,633
I said, "Yeah."

1316
00:59:33,633 --> 00:59:35,833
He said, "Well, I sort of enjoy
not seeing newspapers.

1317
00:59:35,833 --> 00:59:37,866
I can go weeks
sometimes now."

1318
00:59:37,866 --> 00:59:40,366
So, I mean he was...

1319
00:59:40,366 --> 00:59:42,600
happy to kind of tune out
for a while.

1320
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,433
-It really has given me a chance
to go back

1321
00:59:45,433 --> 00:59:46,966
and think
through my own life

1322
00:59:46,966 --> 00:59:50,100
and what I've really felt
most strongly about,

1323
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:53,500
and just try and connect
the pursuit of spiritual values

1324
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,633
with political activity
and ambition,

1325
00:59:56,633 --> 00:59:59,400
and filled with
the kind of excitement

1326
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,433
that I really sense right now.

1327
01:00:04,033 --> 01:00:08,033
-Jerry and I, we met in 1990.

1328
01:00:08,033 --> 01:00:10,266
I was trying to set him up
with my girlfriend,

1329
01:00:10,266 --> 01:00:12,033
but it did not take.

1330
01:00:12,033 --> 01:00:13,933
And I was in the process --

1331
01:00:13,933 --> 01:00:15,633
someone was trying to set me up
with another guy,

1332
01:00:15,633 --> 01:00:18,933
and she ended up with him
and I ended up with Jerry.

1333
01:00:18,933 --> 01:00:21,700
-He has had other relationships
through the years,

1334
01:00:21,700 --> 01:00:23,233
though I think
when you're in politics,

1335
01:00:23,233 --> 01:00:26,566
once you're in it
and in the game,

1336
01:00:26,566 --> 01:00:29,533
it's very difficult to build

1337
01:00:29,533 --> 01:00:33,466
and sustain
an intimate relationship.

1338
01:00:33,466 --> 01:00:37,433
-When I first met him, I really
didn't know what to make of him.

1339
01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:39,333
He is a very unusual person,

1340
01:00:39,333 --> 01:00:42,166
and his brain is running
a million miles an hour

1341
01:00:42,166 --> 01:00:46,466
and always on new topics and
new ways of looking at things.

1342
01:00:46,466 --> 01:00:50,600
So, any conversation we would
have always took me

1343
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,266
in directions
I never could contemplate.

1344
01:00:54,266 --> 01:00:55,733
-You gonna go back
into politics?

1345
01:00:55,733 --> 01:00:57,666
-Uh, I think it's possible.

1346
01:00:57,666 --> 01:00:58,666
-When? How?

1347
01:00:58,666 --> 01:01:01,033
-Well, you have to be called.

1348
01:01:01,033 --> 01:01:03,166
-Mm, a lot of
people call themselves.

1349
01:01:03,166 --> 01:01:04,600
-Well, it's a combination.

1350
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,566
But sometime
in the next few years,

1351
01:01:06,566 --> 01:01:10,000
I'm sure I'll find a way
to make my services available.

1352
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:12,633
I really originally thought
about

1353
01:01:12,633 --> 01:01:14,100
running for the U.S. Senate.

1354
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:15,633
But then I said, "Well,
the Senate,

1355
01:01:15,633 --> 01:01:18,833
it's actually no more difficult
to run for president,

1356
01:01:18,833 --> 01:01:21,166
and because
it's in small pieces,

1357
01:01:21,166 --> 01:01:24,866
you can run in New Hampshire,
in Iowa, in other places.

1358
01:01:24,866 --> 01:01:27,233
You don't have to have
the full-blown campaign

1359
01:01:27,233 --> 01:01:29,300
apparatus on day one.

1360
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:31,600
You can build it based
on success."

1361
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,000
And so, I thought that,

1362
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,000
uh, that I would do that,
and so we did.

1363
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,600
♪♪

1364
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,800
-He's back!

1365
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,166
Yes, by way of Bangladesh,
Calcutta, Mexico,

1366
01:01:44,166 --> 01:01:46,933
and Japan, the twice
former governor of California,

1367
01:01:46,933 --> 01:01:50,333
Jerry Brown, is trying to make
a comeback in politics.

1368
01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:52,133
♪♪

1369
01:01:52,133 --> 01:01:54,633
-Bill Clinton is the same
old politician

1370
01:01:54,633 --> 01:01:56,433
with the same
thousand-dollar checks,

1371
01:01:56,433 --> 01:01:59,433
the same lobbyists,
the same hacks and hustlers

1372
01:01:59,433 --> 01:02:02,400
out of the East Coast
that are part of his operation.

1373
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,900
I represent
an insurgent movement.

1374
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:06,533
We don't take more than $100.

1375
01:02:06,533 --> 01:02:07,833
We've got our 800-number.

1376
01:02:07,833 --> 01:02:10,733
We're saying America,
let's take it back.

1377
01:02:10,733 --> 01:02:11,800
-Where the campaign is going?

1378
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,000
The campaign is going
towards victory.

1379
01:02:15,033 --> 01:02:19,500
And, uh, it's, uh, day by day
and, um, voilà!

1380
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,100
C'est suffit!
Je parle plus!

1381
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,300
En francais...

1382
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,966
-It was crazy wild.

1383
01:02:25,966 --> 01:02:27,666
You know,
nobody'd ever done the job

1384
01:02:27,666 --> 01:02:29,400
that they were doing.

1385
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,966
We literally made it up
every day.

1386
01:02:30,966 --> 01:02:32,533
The press hated me!

1387
01:02:32,533 --> 01:02:34,500
Jerry's had that message
ever since he ran

1388
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,100
for Secretary of State.

1389
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:38,700
The message is that money
and politics doesn't work.

1390
01:02:39,733 --> 01:02:44,500
-Jerry Brown was very much
an odd kind of a character.

1391
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:45,766
And by odd I mean that

1392
01:02:45,766 --> 01:02:48,800
you really could not
put him in a box.

1393
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,633
That's why he was also
very successful

1394
01:02:51,633 --> 01:02:54,533
always when he was
on those presidential campaigns

1395
01:02:54,533 --> 01:02:57,933
because he became
kind of a disrupter,

1396
01:02:57,933 --> 01:02:59,433
and at that point
they didn't even know

1397
01:02:59,433 --> 01:03:01,533
what this word really meant.

1398
01:03:01,533 --> 01:03:02,933
They called it something else.

1399
01:03:02,933 --> 01:03:05,000
But he just came out of nowhere
and he would say things

1400
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,600
and he would really kind of
disrupt the system

1401
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,200
and rattle the cage.

1402
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,300
-The election must be about
something more than a debate

1403
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:17,933
between Democratic insiders
and Republican insiders.

1404
01:03:17,933 --> 01:03:20,700
Debating over marginal changes.

1405
01:03:20,700 --> 01:03:25,166
And problems can be met
with incremental efforts.

1406
01:03:25,166 --> 01:03:29,433
If you really believe that,
please don't vote for him.

1407
01:03:29,433 --> 01:03:32,666
-Bill Clinton thought about
running in '88, but he didn't.

1408
01:03:32,666 --> 01:03:37,966
By 1991, Bill Clinton thought,
"This is the timing for me."

1409
01:03:37,966 --> 01:03:39,933
There is no brilliance
in politics.

1410
01:03:39,933 --> 01:03:41,800
You hope you do the smart thing,

1411
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,366
you hope you think
through the issues,

1412
01:03:44,366 --> 01:03:47,900
but your luck
and timing better be correct.

1413
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:50,200
-There was a point
in the campaign where things

1414
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,233
were moving Clinton's way,
it was pretty clear

1415
01:03:52,233 --> 01:03:53,800
he was on a steam roller
to the nomination,

1416
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,300
and then suddenly Jerry Brown
won the Connecticut primary.

1417
01:03:57,933 --> 01:04:01,033
-There was a time
that the Clinton staff debated

1418
01:04:01,033 --> 01:04:03,866
whether to take
the Brown campaign seriously.

1419
01:04:03,866 --> 01:04:06,333
They no longer have that luxury.

1420
01:04:06,333 --> 01:04:08,700
-Where we got lifted up
right away was winning

1421
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:12,266
Maine right after New Hampshire,
and so it just soared.

1422
01:04:12,266 --> 01:04:16,333
Except don't ever think
you're going to win.

1423
01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:18,066
They'll kill you first.

1424
01:04:18,066 --> 01:04:20,300
-How do you get enough
delegates to win, Governor?

1425
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:22,666
-What?
-How do you get enough
delegates to win?

1426
01:04:22,666 --> 01:04:25,400
-Well, basically, win
the rest of the primaries

1427
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,466
and have Clinton stumble
along the way.

1428
01:04:27,466 --> 01:04:28,600
I mean, that's the only --

1429
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:29,833
-You can't just have delegates
by winning

1430
01:04:29,833 --> 01:04:30,833
the rest of the Primaries.
-No, you have to --

1431
01:04:30,833 --> 01:04:32,666
Look, you want a plausible
strategy?

1432
01:04:32,666 --> 01:04:33,933
Clinton stumbles,

1433
01:04:33,933 --> 01:04:36,866
I win the rest of the primaries,
in national surveys

1434
01:04:36,866 --> 01:04:38,266
I do better against Bush
than anyone else.

1435
01:04:38,266 --> 01:04:40,166
If you want a plausible --
That could happen.

1436
01:04:40,166 --> 01:04:42,666
-Democratic leaders and the
other candidates view him

1437
01:04:42,666 --> 01:04:44,833
as the skunk at the picnic.

1438
01:04:44,833 --> 01:04:47,200
Many believe he is hurting
the party.

1439
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,600
-He's out there attacking
the other Democratic candidates

1440
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,700
saying all the conventional
politicians are the same,

1441
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:55,066
no difference between the
Democrats and the Republicans.

1442
01:04:55,066 --> 01:04:56,633
That's not good for
the Democratic Party

1443
01:04:56,633 --> 01:04:58,133
to have one of the Democrats

1444
01:04:58,133 --> 01:05:00,633
saying that the Democrats are
just as bad as the Republicans.

1445
01:05:00,633 --> 01:05:02,200
-Does the question,
Governor Brown,

1446
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,633
of Mr. Clinton's
recent problems,

1447
01:05:04,633 --> 01:05:06,833
lead you to believe that he has
an electability problem?

1448
01:05:06,833 --> 01:05:08,666
-Yeah, I think he's got
a big electability problem.

1449
01:05:08,666 --> 01:05:09,633
-Well, what do you think it is?

1450
01:05:09,633 --> 01:05:11,166
-I want to tell you what it is.

1451
01:05:11,166 --> 01:05:12,566
It was in right in the front

1452
01:05:12,566 --> 01:05:13,900
ofThe Washington Posttoday.

1453
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:15,300
He is funneling money

1454
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:16,866
to his wife's law firm

1455
01:05:16,866 --> 01:05:18,800
for state business,
that's number one.

1456
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,300
Number two, his wife's law firm

1457
01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:25,100
is representing clients before
the State of Arkansas agencies,

1458
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:27,200
his appointees,
and one of the key

1459
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,666
is the poultry industry,

1460
01:05:28,666 --> 01:05:30,600
which his wife's
law firm represents.

1461
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,033
-Jerry began to criticize
Hillary.

1462
01:05:33,033 --> 01:05:37,500
I'm sitting in a holding room,
but I'm not out on the stage,

1463
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:38,666
but I could see,

1464
01:05:38,666 --> 01:05:42,366
"Oh, God, Clinton
is really getting angry.

1465
01:05:42,366 --> 01:05:43,700
I hope he doesn't hit him."

1466
01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:46,500
-This guy just accused
you of having somebody

1467
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:49,200
funnel legal fees to your wife
and the poultry and whatever

1468
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,200
all that jazz was.
Is that true or isn't it?

1469
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,766
-It's inThe Washington Post
this morning!

1470
01:05:52,766 --> 01:05:54,700
-Is it true or isn't it true,
Governor Clinton?

1471
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:56,400
Wait a second.
-You're always trying to attack.

1472
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,033
-Mr. Brown.
-You never answer the question.

1473
01:05:58,033 --> 01:05:59,166
-Mr. Brown, let him answer.

1474
01:05:59,166 --> 01:06:01,366
-Let me tell you something,
Jerry.

1475
01:06:01,366 --> 01:06:03,766
I don't care
what you say about me.

1476
01:06:03,766 --> 01:06:06,766
I knew when Pat Caddell told me
what you were gonna say,

1477
01:06:06,766 --> 01:06:08,200
that you were gonna
reinvent yourself

1478
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,866
and you were gonna be
somebody else's mouthpiece,

1479
01:06:09,866 --> 01:06:11,300
you would say anything.

1480
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:13,533
But you ought to be ashamed of
yourself for jumping on my wife.

1481
01:06:13,533 --> 01:06:15,133
You're not worth being on
the same platform as my wife.

1482
01:06:15,133 --> 01:06:16,533
-I tell you something,
Mr. Clinton.

1483
01:06:16,533 --> 01:06:18,266
-Now, wait a minute.
-Don't try to escape it!

1484
01:06:18,266 --> 01:06:20,233
Ralph Nader called me
this afternoon.

1485
01:06:20,233 --> 01:06:22,066
He read me the article
fromThe Washington Post.

1486
01:06:22,066 --> 01:06:23,466
-Does that make it true?
-I was shocked by it.

1487
01:06:23,466 --> 01:06:24,733
I was shocked by it

1488
01:06:24,733 --> 01:06:26,666
because I don't think
someone in government

1489
01:06:26,666 --> 01:06:29,000
should be funneling money
to his wife's law firm.

1490
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,000
-Governor Clinton, you were
poking your finger at him,

1491
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,300
he poked it back, but it's your
turn, Governor Clinton.

1492
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:34,100
-Jerry comes here
with his family wealth

1493
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:35,600
and his $1,500 suit

1494
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,000
and makes a lying accusation
about my wife.

1495
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,600
I never, I never --
-It's inThe Washington Post!

1496
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,833
-That doesn't make it true!

1497
01:06:40,833 --> 01:06:42,933
-Are you saying they lied?
-I'm saying that I never

1498
01:06:42,933 --> 01:06:45,200
funneled any money
to my wife's law firm.

1499
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,266
Never!

1500
01:06:46,266 --> 01:06:47,266
-It doesn't matter how right
you are

1501
01:06:47,266 --> 01:06:49,866
or how close you are
to the truth

1502
01:06:49,866 --> 01:06:51,966
or something that you think
the people really want.

1503
01:06:51,966 --> 01:06:54,400
That's not how this game plays.

1504
01:06:56,266 --> 01:06:58,533
-Well, David, maybe the biggest
surprise of all

1505
01:06:58,533 --> 01:07:01,066
is that the last Democrat
left to challenge

1506
01:07:01,066 --> 01:07:03,566
Governor Clinton
is Governor Brown.

1507
01:07:03,566 --> 01:07:05,300
His "nickel and dime" campaign

1508
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:07,866
is at least a thorn
in Clinton's side,

1509
01:07:07,866 --> 01:07:10,933
and maybe a threat
to his nomination.

1510
01:07:10,933 --> 01:07:12,333
-It wasn't a fair primary.

1511
01:07:12,333 --> 01:07:15,200
The Clintons had the Democratic
Party working for them.

1512
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,033
So, the whole idea was like,
"Okay, let's take a rest."

1513
01:07:19,033 --> 01:07:24,433
We had 658 delegates, and let's
just take on the convention.

1514
01:07:24,433 --> 01:07:26,166
So, the message back
to everyone was,

1515
01:07:26,166 --> 01:07:27,800
"We're gonna be
at the convention.

1516
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,233
Everyone's going to go,
we're going to have a presence,"

1517
01:07:30,233 --> 01:07:32,600
and we took it over
for two days.

1518
01:07:35,533 --> 01:07:37,266
-What Clinton forces had hoped
to do at this convention,

1519
01:07:37,266 --> 01:07:39,733
it was to put
an airtight mosquito netting

1520
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:41,366
around Madison Square Garden.

1521
01:07:41,366 --> 01:07:44,433
But somewhere, somehow,
as he has all throughout this

1522
01:07:44,433 --> 01:07:45,866
presidential year,

1523
01:07:45,866 --> 01:07:48,333
Jerry Brown found an opening
and his people are down there

1524
01:07:48,333 --> 01:07:49,800
buzzing around
the convention hall

1525
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,666
hoping to land
and cause some,

1526
01:07:52,666 --> 01:07:54,933
well, discomfort
at least for this party

1527
01:07:54,933 --> 01:07:57,033
and this convention this week.

1528
01:07:57,033 --> 01:07:58,400
-Please move out of the way!

1529
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,366
-Governor, why did you
reject the offer by Ron Brown?

1530
01:08:01,366 --> 01:08:03,800
-Look, we don't, uh, make,
you know, deals.

1531
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,300
We don't need quid pro quo.

1532
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:08,466
We have a right to speak and
we'll speak in a thoughtful way,

1533
01:08:08,466 --> 01:08:10,933
in the manner in which
all our Democratic conventions

1534
01:08:10,933 --> 01:08:12,200
have been conducted.

1535
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,666
-Who will nominate you?
-Thank you very much.

1536
01:08:13,666 --> 01:08:14,900
-Thank you. Go ahead, Mark.

1537
01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:18,200
[ Crowd chanting
"Let Jerry speak" ]

1538
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,400
-Delegates demonstrated
in protest on the floor

1539
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:22,933
of Madison Square Garden,

1540
01:08:22,933 --> 01:08:25,433
shouting "Let Jerry speak."

1541
01:08:25,433 --> 01:08:27,600
Earlier today the former
California governor

1542
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,566
charged that
the party's chairman

1543
01:08:29,566 --> 01:08:31,833
was trying to keep him
off the podium

1544
01:08:31,833 --> 01:08:34,333
until he endorsed
the Clinton-Gore ticket.

1545
01:08:34,333 --> 01:08:35,400
-Jerry Brown.

1546
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,933
What to do about Jerry Brown,

1547
01:08:36,933 --> 01:08:40,033
who, thus far, has refused
to endorse the Clinton ticket?

1548
01:08:40,033 --> 01:08:43,033
-What are you gonna do
about Jerry Brown?

1549
01:08:43,033 --> 01:08:45,266
Governor Clinton, what are you
gonna do about Jerry Brown?

1550
01:08:45,266 --> 01:08:47,533
-What are you gonna do about
Jerry Brown?

1551
01:08:47,533 --> 01:08:49,066
Anything?
-We're working on it, John.

1552
01:08:49,066 --> 01:08:50,333
-You're working on it still?
-We're working on it still.

1553
01:08:50,333 --> 01:08:52,233
-Alright.

1554
01:08:52,233 --> 01:08:55,733
-Many of you come
to this convention

1555
01:08:55,733 --> 01:08:59,266
as delegates for an old friend
of Bill's and mine,

1556
01:08:59,266 --> 01:09:00,900
Jerry Brown.

1557
01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:04,166
[ Crowd chanting
"Let Jerry speak" ]

1558
01:09:04,166 --> 01:09:06,500
You know, I've never known
Jerry not to speak

1559
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:07,866
when Jerry wanted to speak.

1560
01:09:07,866 --> 01:09:10,400
He's always speaking
as far as I can tell.

1561
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,200
[ Cheers and applause ]

1562
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,966
-Politics in general
is the "wait your turn"

1563
01:09:14,966 --> 01:09:17,100
or "it's not your turn."

1564
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:18,766
Jerry wasn't gonna play nice,

1565
01:09:18,766 --> 01:09:20,633
so he was gonna get --
[ Laughs ]

1566
01:09:20,633 --> 01:09:25,233
He was gonna in there, you know.

1567
01:09:25,233 --> 01:09:28,366
And, quite frankly,
my opinion is that

1568
01:09:28,366 --> 01:09:31,066
because he could not
be controlled.

1569
01:09:31,066 --> 01:09:33,366
-We've been in the media
hole of oblivion.

1570
01:09:33,366 --> 01:09:34,600
-You have?
-In the dark hole

1571
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,933
of media oblivion.

1572
01:09:40,533 --> 01:09:41,700
-That is a big question, Tom.

1573
01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:42,866
We are here with Jerry Brown,

1574
01:09:42,866 --> 01:09:44,300
as you said,
off the convention floor,

1575
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:46,133
and the big question tonight,
Governor Brown,

1576
01:09:46,133 --> 01:09:47,766
is are you going to address
this convention?

1577
01:09:47,766 --> 01:09:48,766
Have you been invited?

1578
01:09:48,766 --> 01:09:50,333
-Well, I presume so.

1579
01:09:50,333 --> 01:09:52,100
Four million people voted
to send me here

1580
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:54,266
with a message
of political reform

1581
01:09:54,266 --> 01:09:57,066
to fight the corruption,
the politics as usual,

1582
01:09:57,066 --> 01:09:58,400
and I think it's appropriate.

1583
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,966
-So, you -- it's possible
you could leave here

1584
01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:01,433
without endorsing this ticket?
-Yes, yes, yes.

1585
01:10:01,433 --> 01:10:02,666
-Okay.

1586
01:10:02,666 --> 01:10:05,066
-But we're not committed,
you know.

1587
01:10:05,066 --> 01:10:07,200
We're moving
with deliberate speed.

1588
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,300
-With deliberate speed.
-We're deliberate.

1589
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:13,166
-Some things never change.
[ Laughs ]

1590
01:10:13,166 --> 01:10:16,266
-He was so shut out by the
Democratic establishment.

1591
01:10:16,266 --> 01:10:17,833
You know,
they will not allow him

1592
01:10:17,833 --> 01:10:19,866
to even speak on the floor.

1593
01:10:19,866 --> 01:10:23,166
So the only way he gets
to talk at that convention

1594
01:10:23,166 --> 01:10:25,300
is to have someone
put his name in nomination

1595
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:28,800
and using that 20 minutes as
his address to the convention.

1596
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,733
-It is my honor to second
the nomination

1597
01:10:31,733 --> 01:10:34,233
of Edmund G. Brown Jr...

1598
01:10:34,233 --> 01:10:37,933
[ Cheers and applause ]

1599
01:10:37,933 --> 01:10:42,200
...for the President
of the United States of America.

1600
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,233
[ Cheers and applause ]

1601
01:10:48,366 --> 01:10:51,900
-Hey, thanks.
I really appreciate it.

1602
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:54,766
[ Cheers and applause continue ]

1603
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,933
Thank you.

1604
01:11:01,933 --> 01:11:07,566
[ Cheers and applause continue ]

1605
01:11:07,566 --> 01:11:10,966
Almost a year ago
when this journey began,

1606
01:11:10,966 --> 01:11:15,466
it was evident that we faced
not merely another election,

1607
01:11:15,466 --> 01:11:19,033
but the deepening crisis
of democracy itself.

1608
01:11:19,033 --> 01:11:21,433
What was at stake
was nothing less

1609
01:11:21,433 --> 01:11:23,433
than the life of our nation,

1610
01:11:23,433 --> 01:11:29,033
its soul, its core principles,
the last vessel on Earth.

1611
01:11:29,033 --> 01:11:31,666
President Lincoln
faced crisis, too,

1612
01:11:31,666 --> 01:11:34,333
that led to a bloody civil war

1613
01:11:34,333 --> 01:11:38,700
triggered by the secession
of one third of the states.

1614
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:42,933
Today, half the people,
individually,

1615
01:11:42,933 --> 01:11:45,766
have seceded from
our political democracy

1616
01:11:45,766 --> 01:11:50,300
because they don't believe
their vote makes any difference.

1617
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:52,600
Whatever nice programs
we speak of,

1618
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,833
whatever dreams we share,

1619
01:11:54,833 --> 01:11:59,733
unless the basic fact
of unchecked power and privilege

1620
01:11:59,733 --> 01:12:04,100
is acknowledged
and courageously challenged,

1621
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,400
nothing will ever change.

1622
01:12:07,333 --> 01:12:10,700
[ Cheers and applause ]

1623
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:13,233
-The campaign became
a cultural phenomenon.

1624
01:12:13,233 --> 01:12:15,233
It was kind of the Bernie
campaign of its time.

1625
01:12:15,233 --> 01:12:18,866
Well, literally, that campaign
then got picked up by Dean,

1626
01:12:18,866 --> 01:12:20,133
then got picked up by Obama,

1627
01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:22,333
and then got picked up
by Bernie.

1628
01:12:22,333 --> 01:12:24,633
And it was my deputy,
Tim Carpenter,

1629
01:12:24,633 --> 01:12:28,666
who talked Bernie into running
because of the Jerry campaign.

1630
01:12:28,666 --> 01:12:30,866
He says, "It's gonna happen
like this,

1631
01:12:30,866 --> 01:12:32,766
I can promise you,
it's gonna happen like this,

1632
01:12:32,766 --> 01:12:36,000
because you are gonna speak
to the culture of the moment,

1633
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,766
to the populist movement,
and you're gonna be lifted up.

1634
01:12:39,766 --> 01:12:41,166
I promise you."

1635
01:12:41,166 --> 01:12:42,633
[ Cheers and applause ]

1636
01:12:42,633 --> 01:12:45,400
-Conventions and nominations
are never-ending,

1637
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,633
but only steps along the way.

1638
01:12:47,633 --> 01:12:51,033
I intend to fight
for this party, its ideals,

1639
01:12:51,033 --> 01:12:54,466
tonight, tomorrow,
this year and every year,

1640
01:12:54,466 --> 01:12:57,300
until together, we overcome.

1641
01:12:57,300 --> 01:13:00,566
And I want you to join me
in that undertaking.

1642
01:13:00,566 --> 01:13:03,466
And as we join together
in this spirit,

1643
01:13:03,466 --> 01:13:06,133
no obstacle will stand
in our way.

1644
01:13:06,133 --> 01:13:09,266
Victory will be ours
because in our veins

1645
01:13:09,266 --> 01:13:12,700
runs the blood of those,
at the darkest hour,

1646
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:16,566
gave their lives so that
this nation, under God,

1647
01:13:16,566 --> 01:13:18,400
should have
a new birth of freedom

1648
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,100
and that the government of
the people, by the people,

1649
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:25,200
for the people shall not perish
from this Earth.

1650
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,800
We shall overcome!

1651
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,166
All of us together,
working for what we believe!

1652
01:13:30,166 --> 01:13:31,533
Thank you very much!

1653
01:13:31,533 --> 01:13:34,533
[ Cheers and applause ]

1654
01:13:34,533 --> 01:13:39,866
♪♪

1655
01:13:39,866 --> 01:13:42,900
[ Cheers and applause continue ]

1656
01:13:52,833 --> 01:13:56,833
Nine million people have been
killed by tobacco companies

1657
01:13:56,833 --> 01:13:58,633
for their greedy profits.

1658
01:13:58,633 --> 01:14:00,366
That's the health crisis.

1659
01:14:00,366 --> 01:14:02,333
If you want to expand
your awareness,

1660
01:14:02,333 --> 01:14:06,500
meditate, contemplate,
use the natural ways

1661
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:10,100
of expanding
your ability to understand.

1662
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:12,700
-Sometimes I'd turn on the radio
and listen to it.

1663
01:14:12,700 --> 01:14:16,900
He'd be on when I was
driving home at night.

1664
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:18,666
I found it interesting.

1665
01:14:18,666 --> 01:14:22,366
Pretty leftist, saying things
that might catch up with him

1666
01:14:22,366 --> 01:14:25,266
later if he ever ran again,
but I never thought he would.

1667
01:14:28,066 --> 01:14:30,766
-We met at the firehouse,
a property he owned,

1668
01:14:30,766 --> 01:14:32,733
on Washington Street
in San Francisco.

1669
01:14:32,733 --> 01:14:34,133
In the course of that evening,

1670
01:14:34,133 --> 01:14:36,600
Jerry started talking about
that he was gonna be mayor.

1671
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,200
I said, "That's perfect.

1672
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,233
Mayor of San Francisco.

1673
01:14:39,233 --> 01:14:40,733
You know the city
inside and out."

1674
01:14:40,733 --> 01:14:43,233
He said, "No, no, no, I don't
mean the mayor of San Francisco.

1675
01:14:43,233 --> 01:14:45,200
I mean the mayor of Oakland."

1676
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,066
[ Indistinct conversations,
camera shutters clicking ]

1677
01:14:54,933 --> 01:14:57,666
-Well, very simply,
as you heard on the radio,

1678
01:14:57,666 --> 01:15:00,866
I am announcing my candidacy
for mayor of Oakland.

1679
01:15:00,866 --> 01:15:02,766
Oakland has been pushed around

1680
01:15:02,766 --> 01:15:06,766
and has often been shortchanged
to help other people,

1681
01:15:06,766 --> 01:15:08,733
and now it's time for Oakland
to pull together

1682
01:15:08,733 --> 01:15:11,600
and advance
its collective interests.

1683
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,800
-Three-time
presidential candidate

1684
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,200
and two-term California governor

1685
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,700
Jerry Brown is
on the ballot again.

1686
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:20,200
-Hello!
-How are you?

1687
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,366
-Hope you vote for me.

1688
01:15:21,366 --> 01:15:24,100
Jerry Brown. I'm running
for mayor of Oakland.

1689
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:26,566
-Imagine the former governor
of the state of California

1690
01:15:26,566 --> 01:15:28,166
wanting to be mayor
of Oakland,

1691
01:15:28,166 --> 01:15:31,800
you know, as tough a city
to run as there is in California

1692
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,300
with the economic
distress there

1693
01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:38,433
and the degree of racial unrest
that there is in Oakland.

1694
01:15:38,433 --> 01:15:41,533
I was astonished that
he would want to do that.

1695
01:15:41,533 --> 01:15:45,300
-It was really the only path
he had back to power

1696
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:48,066
after a career that,
despite a lot of promise early,

1697
01:15:48,066 --> 01:15:51,200
really tanked and failed for,
what seems to me now,

1698
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,633
like a really painful
middle period of his life

1699
01:15:53,633 --> 01:15:56,300
where he was lost
and wandering in the wilderness.

1700
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:58,800
And that's not an uncommon
experience for people

1701
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,166
who end up having
a lot to give later.

1702
01:16:01,166 --> 01:16:03,933
-Are you overqualified
for the job of mayor?

1703
01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:07,033
-If the cities of America
had no problems,

1704
01:16:07,033 --> 01:16:08,666
I might be overqualified.

1705
01:16:08,666 --> 01:16:13,366
These, uh, places of urban
America have blight, neglect,

1706
01:16:13,366 --> 01:16:17,300
uh, schools that are falling
apart, real despair,

1707
01:16:17,300 --> 01:16:20,200
and that has bedeviled governors
and presidents.

1708
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,300
So, when I run for
the mayor of Oakland,

1709
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:24,300
I don't consider that anything
other than

1710
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:27,333
the greatest challenge
I've ever faced.

1711
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:31,200
My name was so big,
'cause I'd run for president,

1712
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,000
I'd been governor,
and I was from the Bay Area,

1713
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,800
so, yeah, I got almost
60% of the vote.

1714
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,400
-He kind of redefined himself
by how he played,

1715
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,500
from the time
he left the governorship

1716
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:52,166
till the time that he
ultimately won the mayorship.

1717
01:16:52,166 --> 01:16:54,133
-Now it is with great joy

1718
01:16:54,133 --> 01:16:58,400
that I present to you
our new mayor,

1719
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,466
the honorable Jerry Brown!

1720
01:17:01,466 --> 01:17:02,733
Jerry!

1721
01:17:02,733 --> 01:17:05,933
[ Cheers and applause ]

1722
01:17:05,933 --> 01:17:10,266
-My experience as mayor
really opened my eyes.

1723
01:17:10,266 --> 01:17:12,466
What was nice about it,
when I was governor,

1724
01:17:12,466 --> 01:17:15,200
to go to L.A.,
you had to get on the plane.

1725
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,533
Oakland, you just
get in the car.

1726
01:17:16,533 --> 01:17:17,966
You can go anywhere.

1727
01:17:17,966 --> 01:17:20,400
In 12 minutes, you can go from
one end of Oakland to the other.

1728
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,433
So, it was very concrete.

1729
01:17:22,433 --> 01:17:26,066
-He said, "You know, potholes
are important also,

1730
01:17:26,066 --> 01:17:29,666
and as mayor, I can do
something about potholes."

1731
01:17:29,666 --> 01:17:32,666
But to him,
it wasn't a demotion.

1732
01:17:32,666 --> 01:17:36,633
It was just another phase
of being a public servant.

1733
01:17:37,466 --> 01:17:41,800
-He began the economic
revitalization of Oakland.

1734
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,800
He came up with the phrase
of "elegant density."

1735
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,766
The concept is that
it's environmentally smart

1736
01:17:48,766 --> 01:17:51,766
because you're not living
in suburbs and having to drive.

1737
01:17:51,766 --> 01:17:54,833
It's about community
and about neighborhoods

1738
01:17:54,833 --> 01:17:56,866
and about economic vibrancy.

1739
01:17:56,866 --> 01:17:59,566
And he took all of those
concepts

1740
01:17:59,566 --> 01:18:01,233
and put them into action

1741
01:18:01,233 --> 01:18:05,233
in this little microcosm
of Oakland.

1742
01:18:05,233 --> 01:18:06,966
-This is not a situation

1743
01:18:06,966 --> 01:18:10,400
where it's calm and orderly.

1744
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,033
Jerry's job is to kind of swim
through chaos

1745
01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:14,333
and make sense of it.

1746
01:18:14,333 --> 01:18:16,000
And if you're gonna work
for him,

1747
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,966
you're gonna get dragged along
through some of that chaos,

1748
01:18:17,966 --> 01:18:21,633
and so you have to buckle in
and be ready for anything.

1749
01:18:24,033 --> 01:18:26,133
You heard various stories,
was he fired?

1750
01:18:26,133 --> 01:18:27,266
Did he quit?

1751
01:18:27,266 --> 01:18:28,700
There are certain situations
in politics

1752
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:32,366
where there's not really
a distinction between the two.

1753
01:18:32,366 --> 01:18:33,633
Once when I was in his car,
I looked

1754
01:18:33,633 --> 01:18:35,000
and I saw a letter from Jacques

1755
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,233
and I just looked at it,
and it was just Jacques saying,

1756
01:18:37,233 --> 01:18:39,666
"Hey, when I talked to you
today, it felt like old times,"

1757
01:18:39,666 --> 01:18:42,900
and it was almost like a brother
writing to another brother,

1758
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:46,166
and I don't think
they ever spoke again.

1759
01:18:46,166 --> 01:18:49,633
-Jacques came to peace with not
being in contact with Jerry.

1760
01:18:49,633 --> 01:18:51,566
But he also knew
it's what had to be.

1761
01:18:51,566 --> 01:18:55,666
The effort was not made
on either of their parts,

1762
01:18:55,666 --> 01:18:58,966
and they both seemed
okay with that.

1763
01:18:58,966 --> 01:19:02,200
-I also think it had been
a long-running competition

1764
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,500
to hold the prime spot
in Jerry's life with Anne.

1765
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:09,533
-After they got married,
he would call and he said,

1766
01:19:09,533 --> 01:19:11,866
"This is so great
being married!"

1767
01:19:11,866 --> 01:19:16,733
It's a little like he's invented
it, or the first to discover it.

1768
01:19:16,733 --> 01:19:22,366
And to this day he has
that enthusiasm about marriage.

1769
01:19:22,366 --> 01:19:25,766
And they are great friends,
great partners,

1770
01:19:25,766 --> 01:19:28,633
and truly, you know,
in love with one another.

1771
01:19:30,033 --> 01:19:31,700
-Over the years,
I can just see the way

1772
01:19:31,700 --> 01:19:34,866
that Jerry's become
more playful and warmer.

1773
01:19:34,866 --> 01:19:38,600
And these are all feminine
attributes that he didn't get

1774
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,900
when he was hanging around
with Jacques.

1775
01:19:40,900 --> 01:19:43,500
[ Chuckling ]
Let's just put it that way.

1776
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:46,800
-For the first time,
he actually had a partner.

1777
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,600
Anne became a real participant
in Jerry's career.

1778
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,866
-As he neared the end
of his mayorship,

1779
01:19:54,866 --> 01:19:57,633
he thought he should run
for Attorney General.

1780
01:19:57,633 --> 01:20:00,333
His father had always said
that was his favorite job.

1781
01:20:00,333 --> 01:20:02,566
Pat Brown loved
being Attorney General.

1782
01:20:02,566 --> 01:20:05,866
So, I think Jerry thought
he would love that job.

1783
01:20:05,866 --> 01:20:07,000
[ Cheers and applause ]

1784
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,233
-When I was a little younger,

1785
01:20:08,233 --> 01:20:09,300
I used to say, you know,

1786
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:10,666
we're gonna take the young guys

1787
01:20:10,666 --> 01:20:11,966
and throw all those
old guys out.

1788
01:20:11,966 --> 01:20:14,666
It's time for radical changes!
[ Laughter ]

1789
01:20:14,666 --> 01:20:19,433
Well, today I say there's
no substitute for experience,

1790
01:20:19,433 --> 01:20:21,100
and that's what
I got a lot of.

1791
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:22,633
[ Laughter and applause ]

1792
01:20:22,633 --> 01:20:24,466
The person who made it
all possible,

1793
01:20:24,466 --> 01:20:27,233
my campaign manager, Anne!
[ Cheers and applause ]

1794
01:20:27,233 --> 01:20:29,533
Anne, come up here.

1795
01:20:29,533 --> 01:20:30,933
-Thank you, Jerry.

1796
01:20:30,933 --> 01:20:32,333
Thank you all very much.

1797
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:35,200
It's, uh, I just want also thank
all the people

1798
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:36,300
who worked on our campaign,

1799
01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:37,800
there are many of you
here tonight.

1800
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,266
Most, uh, newlyweds, I'm told,

1801
01:20:40,266 --> 01:20:42,000
take something
called a honeymoon.

1802
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,200
Uh, Jerry and I didn't do that.

1803
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,466
We went on a campaign,
and, uh --

1804
01:20:46,466 --> 01:20:48,100
but I think we're gonna get
a honeymoon, right?

1805
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:50,633
-Right. Soon.
-Yeah, right. Good.

1806
01:20:50,633 --> 01:20:52,700
-In the previous
governor's jobs,

1807
01:20:52,700 --> 01:20:54,000
he could just give orders.

1808
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,566
But when he took over
the AG's job,

1809
01:20:57,566 --> 01:21:00,166
presiding over
the biggest law office

1810
01:21:00,166 --> 01:21:01,533
in the nation

1811
01:21:01,533 --> 01:21:04,366
outside of the U.S.
Department of Justice,

1812
01:21:04,366 --> 01:21:05,900
he actually had to work.

1813
01:21:05,900 --> 01:21:08,733
-Because the Court of California

1814
01:21:08,733 --> 01:21:09,900
said that marriage

1815
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:12,000
was a fundamental right

1816
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,600
and that same-sex couples
had the right to be included,

1817
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,133
therefore, even though
Proposition 8 passed,

1818
01:21:18,133 --> 01:21:20,666
it can't take away
fundamental rights.

1819
01:21:20,666 --> 01:21:24,533
-During my time when I was
governor, we sat together.

1820
01:21:24,533 --> 01:21:27,400
We worked on various
different issues together.

1821
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,800
It was so great to have someone
that is a Democrat,

1822
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,266
and here I was a Republican --
it was never that atmosphere.

1823
01:21:32,266 --> 01:21:34,466
He and I could work together
so well.

1824
01:21:34,466 --> 01:21:36,266
It was really remarkable.

1825
01:21:36,266 --> 01:21:39,433
-He went back into the practical
arena for the second time

1826
01:21:39,433 --> 01:21:41,300
and kind of worked his way up,

1827
01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:43,433
in a way
that he hadn't the first time.

1828
01:21:43,433 --> 01:21:46,300
And it was almost as if
a whole second apprenticeship

1829
01:21:46,300 --> 01:21:50,266
had happened that
made him this master craftsman.

1830
01:21:50,266 --> 01:21:51,666
♪♪

1831
01:21:51,666 --> 01:21:53,133
-It's back to the drawing board

1832
01:21:53,133 --> 01:21:55,200
for California Governor
Arnold Schwarzenegger

1833
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,000
and California lawmakers.

1834
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,600
The two cannot agree
on a solution

1835
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,200
to narrow the state's
$26 billion deficit.

1836
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:03,966
Now, one Democrat member says,

1837
01:22:03,966 --> 01:22:08,166
"I hate to describe it as
a setback, but we have stalled."

1838
01:22:08,166 --> 01:22:10,133
-We kind of got bankrupt
as a state.

1839
01:22:10,133 --> 01:22:11,133
We could have defaulted

1840
01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:12,300
on all of our bonds.

1841
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:14,600
I mean, it was really,
really bad.

1842
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,833
-Unemployment
was very high, uh,

1843
01:22:16,833 --> 01:22:19,233
there was a distrust
in the government.

1844
01:22:19,233 --> 01:22:22,500
So it was an opportunity
for an outsider to come in.

1845
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:23,800
[ Indistinct conversations ]

1846
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,400
♪♪

1847
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,866
-I have a record of standing
against the tide.

1848
01:22:27,866 --> 01:22:29,566
-Hey, how are you?
-How are you, man?

1849
01:22:29,566 --> 01:22:31,200
-They didn't call me
Governor Moonbeam for nothing.

1850
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,866
I proposed stuff that people
said, "Wow!"

1851
01:22:33,866 --> 01:22:36,466
And I have
the intestinal fortitude

1852
01:22:36,466 --> 01:22:39,733
and the moral energy
to do the same thing again.

1853
01:22:39,733 --> 01:22:40,866
[ Crowd chanting "Jerry" ]

1854
01:22:40,866 --> 01:22:42,433
-Jerry Brown,
who was the youngest

1855
01:22:42,433 --> 01:22:43,833
California Governor
in history,

1856
01:22:43,833 --> 01:22:46,233
is now running
to become the oldest,

1857
01:22:46,233 --> 01:22:48,066
and he's running
against the woman

1858
01:22:48,066 --> 01:22:50,233
who brought us eBay,
Meg Whitman.

1859
01:22:50,233 --> 01:22:51,533
-Where is Jerry Brown?

1860
01:22:51,533 --> 01:22:52,533
What is he doing?

1861
01:22:52,533 --> 01:22:53,933
He is not campaigning.

1862
01:22:53,933 --> 01:22:56,066
He is not out meeting
with people.

1863
01:22:56,066 --> 01:22:58,166
But I am, and that is going to
make a big difference

1864
01:22:58,166 --> 01:23:00,100
on November 2nd.
[ Cheers and applause ]

1865
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,433
-We knew that it had to be Jerry

1866
01:23:01,433 --> 01:23:03,566
'cause nobody else
could fix the problems.

1867
01:23:03,566 --> 01:23:06,500
But it did seem insurmountable
at first because,

1868
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:09,866
I mean, Whitman ended up
spending $130 million.

1869
01:23:09,866 --> 01:23:11,933
[ Cheers and applause ]

1870
01:23:11,933 --> 01:23:13,500
-He knew how to campaign.

1871
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:15,366
He knew how to talk
to the people.

1872
01:23:15,366 --> 01:23:17,100
He didn't just talk
to the brain,

1873
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:18,600
but he also talked to the heart.

1874
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,133
And he really showed,

1875
01:23:20,133 --> 01:23:22,266
"Here's the vision
that I have for California,

1876
01:23:22,266 --> 01:23:24,700
here's where we can go,
and this is the way

1877
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:28,466
I will be and how I will
run this state, so be with me."

1878
01:23:28,466 --> 01:23:30,033
And people followed him.

1879
01:23:30,033 --> 01:23:31,866
♪♪

1880
01:23:31,866 --> 01:23:33,533
-"I" -- state your name.

1881
01:23:33,533 --> 01:23:35,966
-I, Jerry Brown...

1882
01:23:35,966 --> 01:23:37,400
-"...do solemnly swear..."

1883
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,966
-...do solemnly swear...

1884
01:23:38,966 --> 01:23:40,833
-"...that I will support
and defend..."

1885
01:23:40,833 --> 01:23:42,533
-...that I will support
and defend...

1886
01:23:42,533 --> 01:23:44,666
-"...the Constitution
of the United States..."

1887
01:23:44,666 --> 01:23:46,966
-...the Constitution
of the United States...

1888
01:23:46,966 --> 01:23:49,533
-"...and the Constitution
of the State of California."

1889
01:23:49,533 --> 01:23:51,600
-...and the Constitution
of the State of California.

1890
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,500
-Congratulations.
-Thank you very much.

1891
01:23:53,500 --> 01:23:56,100
Thank you. Thank you.
[ Cheers and applause ]

1892
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:57,700
-Thank you.

1893
01:23:57,700 --> 01:23:59,300
[ Cheers and applause continue ]
-Thank you.

1894
01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:01,233
-When Jerry was elected
the second time,

1895
01:24:01,233 --> 01:24:05,666
I said,
"That is [bleep] fantastic!"

1896
01:24:05,666 --> 01:24:07,233
And what an opportunity!

1897
01:24:07,233 --> 01:24:11,633
And just as a friend, I thought,
"Who gets this chance?"

1898
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:18,500
-This is my eighth
State of the State speech.

1899
01:24:18,500 --> 01:24:22,533
So, in preparation for this,
I went back and I read them.

1900
01:24:22,533 --> 01:24:28,800
Uh, tedious, sometimes sobering,
and a challenge to do better.

1901
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,333
So, with that prospect in mind,
I continue.

1902
01:24:33,333 --> 01:24:37,566
It's unusual to have a chance
to be in this office,

1903
01:24:37,566 --> 01:24:39,800
and then 28 years later,

1904
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,166
come back and do essentially
the same function

1905
01:24:43,166 --> 01:24:45,633
but in a very different context.

1906
01:24:45,633 --> 01:24:50,833
The problem when I came back was
much clearer, much more focused.

1907
01:24:50,833 --> 01:24:53,233
-Oh, here he is. Great.

1908
01:24:53,233 --> 01:24:56,600
[ Camera shutters clicking ]

1909
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,166
-Good afternoon.
-Good afternoon.

1910
01:24:58,166 --> 01:24:59,733
-Good to see you.
It's been a while.

1911
01:24:59,733 --> 01:25:01,233
-How was Southwest?

1912
01:25:01,233 --> 01:25:02,300
-Southwest was good.

1913
01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:04,433
It was a bumpy landing,

1914
01:25:04,433 --> 01:25:08,966
and that may be emblematic
of where we are today.

1915
01:25:08,966 --> 01:25:11,833
Uh, we're in for a bit
of a bumpy ride

1916
01:25:11,833 --> 01:25:15,900
because the spending
by the state, uh, exceeds,

1917
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:20,700
uh, by $16 billion, the revenue
that we expect to come in.

1918
01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:24,066
But even though that's a big
problem, we've got a big answer.

1919
01:25:24,066 --> 01:25:26,133
-I think one of the things
that made him

1920
01:25:26,133 --> 01:25:29,066
so effective in his second tour
as Governor

1921
01:25:29,066 --> 01:25:32,500
was that he remained
what he'd always been,

1922
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:35,233
the unpolitician's politician.

1923
01:25:35,233 --> 01:25:39,200
And that persona was,
"A," authentic to him

1924
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,000
and, "B," had come to seem like

1925
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,033
something very precious
in American life.

1926
01:25:43,033 --> 01:25:45,233
And people reacted very well
to that.

1927
01:25:45,233 --> 01:25:47,333
-17 is not 4!

1928
01:25:47,333 --> 01:25:50,533
19 is not 8, and 21 is not 7!

1929
01:25:50,533 --> 01:25:52,066
That is real!

1930
01:25:52,066 --> 01:25:54,100
That -- That's real!
That's stuff we're not doing!

1931
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:57,366
Now we're gonna wipe out that
with more cuts and the taxes.

1932
01:25:57,366 --> 01:25:58,466
That's the plan.

1933
01:25:58,466 --> 01:26:00,233
Now, is it hard to believe

1934
01:26:00,233 --> 01:26:01,733
that government
is telling you the truth?

1935
01:26:01,733 --> 01:26:05,300
Well, I'm -- Look,
I've been here a long time.

1936
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:07,233
I know what the hell I'm doing.

1937
01:26:07,233 --> 01:26:08,333
I'm a truthful guy.

1938
01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:09,600
This is the way it is.

1939
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,233
If anybody has a better idea,
I'll take it.

1940
01:26:12,233 --> 01:26:14,633
-How big a bet is this for you?

1941
01:26:14,633 --> 01:26:16,133
-How big a bet?
-Yes.

1942
01:26:16,133 --> 01:26:17,633
In other words --
-I don't...

1943
01:26:17,633 --> 01:26:21,200
-Your future and your reputation
is on getting this bill passed.

1944
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,166
-I don't have that much
of a future.

1945
01:26:23,166 --> 01:26:25,300
I got more of a past
than a future.

1946
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:27,233
So, I'm not betting anything.

1947
01:26:27,233 --> 01:26:29,766
I'm just coming to work
every day,

1948
01:26:29,766 --> 01:26:31,733
uh, I'm enjoying
the hell out of it,

1949
01:26:31,733 --> 01:26:33,600
and I'm gonna do the best I can,

1950
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,100
and whatever way the people go,
I'm going with 'em!

1951
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:38,533
♪♪

1952
01:26:38,533 --> 01:26:41,433
-The measure passed
with 54% of the vote.

1953
01:26:41,433 --> 01:26:43,166
California voters had actually

1954
01:26:43,166 --> 01:26:45,900
agreed to tax themselves.

1955
01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:48,133
With that new money
beginning to come in

1956
01:26:48,133 --> 01:26:52,066
and the recession fading a bit,
and previous cuts in effect,

1957
01:26:52,066 --> 01:26:53,966
Brown could declare last week

1958
01:26:53,966 --> 01:26:56,666
that the budget deficit
had vanished.

1959
01:26:57,933 --> 01:27:00,466
-No one had more experience,

1960
01:27:00,466 --> 01:27:02,733
had thought more about
how government operates,

1961
01:27:02,733 --> 01:27:05,933
how you need to manage
in government,

1962
01:27:05,933 --> 01:27:08,900
and you need to have priorities
in government

1963
01:27:08,900 --> 01:27:10,566
or you can't serve the people.

1964
01:27:10,566 --> 01:27:12,800
That second eight years,

1965
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,100
there's never been
a better governor anywhere.

1966
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:19,700
-So this fourth term,
no one's ever had it,

1967
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:21,233
no one's ever
going to have it again.

1968
01:27:21,233 --> 01:27:22,566
And I take the responsibility

1969
01:27:22,566 --> 01:27:25,033
and the opportunity
very seriously.

1970
01:27:25,033 --> 01:27:30,100
And every part of my mind,
my body, uh, my imagination,

1971
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:32,233
I'm going to throw into this
next four years.

1972
01:27:32,233 --> 01:27:35,300
And for whatever reason,
I get up every morning

1973
01:27:35,300 --> 01:27:39,100
so enthusiastic, energized,
ready to go out there

1974
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,300
and make a difference
in California.

1975
01:27:41,300 --> 01:27:42,533
So my wife can tell you that,

1976
01:27:42,533 --> 01:27:45,233
'cause I jump out of bed,
and I wanna go.

1977
01:27:45,233 --> 01:27:48,200
So tomorrow, I'll be there,
figuring out, you know,

1978
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,833
what the hell you do
in a fourth term.

1979
01:27:50,833 --> 01:27:54,333
-If you think of Jerry
in his last time as governor,

1980
01:27:54,333 --> 01:27:57,366
probably the national leader
in terms of climate change,

1981
01:27:57,366 --> 01:27:59,833
I mean,
it has been a continuity.

1982
01:27:59,833 --> 01:28:02,733
We have Bernie Sanders,
we have Elizabeth Warren,

1983
01:28:02,733 --> 01:28:04,033
focusing on climate change.

1984
01:28:04,033 --> 01:28:06,966
And that's something
Jerry Brown was talking about

1985
01:28:06,966 --> 01:28:09,200
in 1975.

1986
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,700
-There is no substitute

1987
01:28:10,700 --> 01:28:11,866
for experience

1988
01:28:11,866 --> 01:28:14,100
and some wisdom,

1989
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:15,900
and he brought both

1990
01:28:15,900 --> 01:28:17,766
the second time.

1991
01:28:17,766 --> 01:28:19,766
I describe it as the old bull
and the young bull,

1992
01:28:19,766 --> 01:28:22,233
and, you know,
the young bull wants to go down

1993
01:28:22,233 --> 01:28:25,533
and tackle every problem that,
you know, they can.

1994
01:28:25,533 --> 01:28:28,266
And the old bull goes,
"I'm gonna take my time

1995
01:28:28,266 --> 01:28:31,100
and tackle one problem
at a time."

1996
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:33,533
And that is what I thought --
I think

1997
01:28:33,533 --> 01:28:37,466
he brought to his second term.

1998
01:28:37,466 --> 01:28:41,166
-I think his political career
was an expression,

1999
01:28:41,166 --> 01:28:43,333
to some degree,
of his spiritual side.

2000
01:28:43,333 --> 01:28:46,366
You can have contemplation,
or you can have action,

2001
01:28:46,366 --> 01:28:47,533
or you can have both,

2002
01:28:47,533 --> 01:28:49,266
and I think he did
a bit of both.

2003
01:28:49,266 --> 01:28:50,833
Can you make these
things better?

2004
01:28:50,833 --> 01:28:53,033
Can you reduce the suffering?

2005
01:28:53,033 --> 01:28:55,633
♪♪

2006
01:28:57,933 --> 01:28:58,966
-Let's go.
-All right.

2007
01:28:58,966 --> 01:29:00,966
-Let's turn the lights out,
guys.

2008
01:29:00,966 --> 01:29:02,833
We're not work--
as my father would say,

2009
01:29:02,833 --> 01:29:04,966
we're not working for PG&E.

2010
01:29:04,966 --> 01:29:07,166
Will you grab that other light,
Evan, just...

2011
01:29:07,166 --> 01:29:08,266
-Yeah.

2012
01:29:08,266 --> 01:29:10,733
-We do not need
all the lights on.

2013
01:29:10,733 --> 01:29:12,200
When I leave the governorship,

2014
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,466
I'll be turning
the lights out, too.

2015
01:29:14,466 --> 01:29:16,933
All right, let's go.

2016
01:29:16,933 --> 01:29:20,966
♪♪

2017
01:29:20,966 --> 01:29:25,633
Journalists like to hypothesize
that there's one thing

2018
01:29:25,633 --> 01:29:29,866
that I'm most proud of,
or one thing that is my legacy.

2019
01:29:29,866 --> 01:29:33,366
But as governor,
you can't be a one-trick pony.

2020
01:29:33,366 --> 01:29:35,133
There are many important things.

2021
01:29:35,133 --> 01:29:36,733
[ Cheers and applause ]

2022
01:29:36,733 --> 01:29:38,900
♪♪

2023
01:29:38,900 --> 01:29:41,266
-His rejection of legacy
is very simple.

2024
01:29:41,266 --> 01:29:43,500
As someone
who has studied history --

2025
01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:47,333
ancient history, Roman history,
Zen history, you name it --

2026
01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:49,333
he knows that very few people
get remembered.

2027
01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:51,466
To him, the idea
that you have a legacy

2028
01:29:51,466 --> 01:29:54,166
is an egomaniacal confection

2029
01:29:54,166 --> 01:29:56,400
that makes you feel
more important than you are

2030
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:01,033
in the struggle with the void
of your forthcoming mortality.

2031
01:30:01,033 --> 01:30:02,666
And so, I think he rejects that

2032
01:30:02,666 --> 01:30:06,100
for the idea that you have to do
what you're doing in the moment.

2033
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:08,000
♪♪

2034
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,400
-Without question, the best
governor since I've been alive,

2035
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,766
but probably
in the history of California.

2036
01:30:14,766 --> 01:30:15,966
I mean, think about it --

2037
01:30:15,966 --> 01:30:20,300
Gavin comes in
with $12 billion surplus.

2038
01:30:20,300 --> 01:30:23,733
Two thirds of both houses of
the legislature are Democrats.

2039
01:30:23,733 --> 01:30:25,033
I mean,
you want to talk about --

2040
01:30:25,033 --> 01:30:28,333
that's called a political
trust fund right there.

2041
01:30:28,333 --> 01:30:34,700
-Young people can learn from
Jerry not to be put in the box,

2042
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:36,000
and they can learn from Jerry

2043
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,800
not to go
and cater to your party,

2044
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,800
but to cater to the people.

2045
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,000
♪♪

2046
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,466
-Governors have to be mindful
of the future,

2047
01:30:44,466 --> 01:30:46,333
but, basically,
you're governing for your time

2048
01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:48,733
and maybe five years
down the road.

2049
01:30:48,733 --> 01:30:52,300
But he is decades down the road,
decades down the road.

2050
01:30:53,666 --> 01:30:58,700
-You can be fully human
and remain fully human

2051
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:02,766
in the midst of the world's
chaos and contradictions.

2052
01:31:02,766 --> 01:31:04,300
Everything's a decision.

2053
01:31:04,300 --> 01:31:05,933
Which side am I gonna go on,

2054
01:31:05,933 --> 01:31:08,833
the easy path,
the rightful path?

2055
01:31:08,833 --> 01:31:12,966
And I think, by and large,
Jerry stayed on the right path.

2056
01:31:12,966 --> 01:31:16,000
♪♪

2057
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,500
-And anytime you say,
am I going to do it

2058
01:31:17,500 --> 01:31:20,766
for political reasons, personal,
or what's right?

2059
01:31:20,766 --> 01:31:23,600
I think I am, as you are,
as all of us are,

2060
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,366
a complex of motives.

2061
01:31:25,366 --> 01:31:27,366
And, uh, everything we do

2062
01:31:27,366 --> 01:31:31,566
is an admixture
of many thoughts and premises

2063
01:31:31,566 --> 01:31:34,133
oftentimes
we don't even understand.

2064
01:31:34,133 --> 01:31:35,533
Hey, Kelly! Kelly!

2065
01:31:35,533 --> 01:31:37,100
Let's go!
Come on!

2066
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:38,833
Come on, get in.
-There we go. There we go.

2067
01:31:38,833 --> 01:31:41,566
-Hold on.
Don't do that, okay?

2068
01:31:41,566 --> 01:31:44,400
There we go. There we go.

2069
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,333
[ Engine rumbling ]

2070
01:31:48,566 --> 01:31:50,633
-Are you happy?

2071
01:31:50,633 --> 01:31:52,366
-Happy?

2072
01:31:52,366 --> 01:31:54,600
As opposed to what?

2073
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,866
-Uh...
-No, I'm veryunhappy.

2074
01:31:56,866 --> 01:31:58,600
What does that mean?

2075
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,533
I mean, every state --
you mean happy with this ride?

2076
01:32:01,533 --> 01:32:03,066
Happy with my life?

2077
01:32:03,066 --> 01:32:04,800
Happy with you?

2078
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,100
-All three. One at a time. Go.
-Now, you asked me --

2079
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:09,433
No, now,
be a little more concrete.

2080
01:32:09,433 --> 01:32:11,033
Happy with the fence?

2081
01:32:11,033 --> 01:32:12,666
The dog?
Very happy with my dog.

2082
01:32:12,666 --> 01:32:14,000
He's good.

2083
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,266
You're gonna have to open
this gate.

2084
01:32:15,266 --> 01:32:17,166
-Happy with your life?

2085
01:32:17,166 --> 01:32:18,933
-No, that -- that's...

2086
01:32:18,933 --> 01:32:21,133
[ Engine rumbling ]

2087
01:32:22,733 --> 01:32:24,766
All right.

2088
01:32:24,766 --> 01:32:36,033
♪♪

2089
01:32:36,033 --> 01:32:43,066
♪♪

2090
01:32:45,166 --> 01:33:24,000
♪♪

2091
01:32:58,866 --> 01:33:24,000
♪♪

2092
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:35,000
♪♪

2093
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:40,000
♪♪