1 00:00:00,633 --> 00:00:04,566 ♪♪ 2 00:00:04,633 --> 00:00:06,300 Kevin: On "Ask This Old House," 3 00:00:06,366 --> 00:00:08,933 our experts travel across the country 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,233 to answer questions about your house. 5 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:17,400 ♪♪ 6 00:00:17,466 --> 00:00:20,466 Today, our crew earns a badge in gardening 7 00:00:20,533 --> 00:00:23,466 when they share everything they know about raised garden beds... 8 00:00:23,533 --> 00:00:25,200 Jenn: Aww! I love it! 9 00:00:25,266 --> 00:00:28,266 Kevin: ...Tom gives me a crash test in geometry 10 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:30,933 as we create a one-of-a-kind herb planter. 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,366 Girl Scouts. This is why you need to stay in school. 12 00:00:33,433 --> 00:00:37,133 Plus, Jenn and Nathan work with a few smart cookies, 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 refreshing the garden beds of a local Girl Scout troop. 14 00:00:40,666 --> 00:00:43,533 That's all coming up next on "Ask This Old House." 15 00:00:46,866 --> 00:00:50,533 ♪♪ 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Nathan: I got into Boy Scouts at a really young age, 17 00:00:52,666 --> 00:00:54,133 starting with Cub Scouts. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,533 I was a Scout pretty much my entire childhood. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Cub Scouts is more focused on just kind of, like, 20 00:00:58,866 --> 00:01:01,133 the beginning skills, kind of getting an idea 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,000 of how to cook safely, 22 00:01:03,066 --> 00:01:05,866 how to be around fires, how to handle knives, 23 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:09,733 um, you know, some basic first-aid skills. 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,600 As a Boy Scout, that's when you really 25 00:01:11,666 --> 00:01:13,000 get into the merit badges. 26 00:01:13,066 --> 00:01:14,866 There are certain required ones, and then there's certain 27 00:01:14,933 --> 00:01:16,766 kind of elective ones that are more for fun. 28 00:01:16,833 --> 00:01:18,933 The required ones, those focus more, like, 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,633 how does the government work, first aid, swimming, lifesaving. 30 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:25,533 Eagle Scout is the highest rank in Boy Scouts. 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,900 For my Eagle Scout project, 32 00:01:26,966 --> 00:01:30,800 I took a catalog of veterans 33 00:01:30,866 --> 00:01:32,200 in a certain cemetery in my town, 34 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:33,766 and it was all just on paper, 35 00:01:33,833 --> 00:01:35,800 and I turned that into a digital file. 36 00:01:35,866 --> 00:01:38,466 And so once I typed all those names in, 37 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:40,433 where they were located, 38 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:43,100 we gave the digital file over to the American Legion. 39 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:45,133 They have a copy of it. I have a copy of it. 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,900 And then also we picked up the old markers 41 00:01:47,966 --> 00:01:50,366 that needed to be replaced and put down new markers. 42 00:01:50,433 --> 00:01:52,533 So when you go up to the stone, you can see, 43 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,533 okay, this guy was a veteran -- new marker, new flag. 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,700 And every year, the Boy Scout troop swaps out the flags. 45 00:01:59,766 --> 00:02:02,133 So, going through Boy Scouts, 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,633 you learn a lot about everything. 47 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:08,033 And a lot of that does carry on with you later in life. 48 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:09,533 First one definitely be leadership. 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,066 That's really what they want you to learn. 50 00:02:11,133 --> 00:02:14,900 They want -- They want you to be a leader in some form. 51 00:02:14,966 --> 00:02:16,433 Self-sufficiency was a really big thing 52 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:17,733 that I learned in the Boy Scouts, 53 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,333 and that's something that without a doubt 54 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,633 has gone with me for the rest of my life -- 55 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:25,333 how to handle situations, how to control situations. 56 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,100 It's the leadership. It's the self-sufficiency. 57 00:02:28,166 --> 00:02:29,866 It's how to talk to people. 58 00:02:29,933 --> 00:02:31,866 You know, when you're a kid, when you're a Boy Scout, 59 00:02:31,933 --> 00:02:34,166 you have to talk to adults, and it's not easy to, 60 00:02:34,233 --> 00:02:35,333 but, you know, you try. 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,666 And then when you get into the Navy, 62 00:02:36,733 --> 00:02:38,233 you have to go up the chain of command. 63 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:39,700 And when you've been in long enough, 64 00:02:39,766 --> 00:02:41,166 you have to go down the chain of command. 65 00:02:41,233 --> 00:02:42,666 You know, those are all little life lessons 66 00:02:42,733 --> 00:02:43,933 that I picked up in Boy Scouts 67 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,833 that have helped me a lot over the years. 68 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:49,366 I think when my daughters are old enough 69 00:02:49,433 --> 00:02:51,366 I'll definitely introduce them to Scouts. 70 00:02:51,433 --> 00:02:53,233 Hopefully I have a great troop in town 71 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:55,800 that I can bring them over to and get them introduced 72 00:02:55,866 --> 00:02:58,400 and let them see what they think of it. 73 00:02:58,466 --> 00:03:00,533 So, I do have some family still in Scouts. 74 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,833 My dad's still the troop leader, 75 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:04,266 and also a couple towns away, my niece Audrey 76 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:07,500 is in a Girl Scout troop and she's a Brownie. 77 00:03:07,566 --> 00:03:10,333 And then my sister also helps out with that troop as a leader. 78 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,033 I think my niece is really enjoying it. 79 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:15,100 You know, she is a very hands-on person, 80 00:03:15,166 --> 00:03:18,933 loves to learn, loves to read, loves to get her hands dirty. 81 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,133 You know, she's really a well-rounded kid. 82 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,200 And I think that, you know, Girl Scouts is perfect for her. 83 00:03:24,266 --> 00:03:26,500 Things that I hope, you know, Audrey takes away 84 00:03:26,566 --> 00:03:28,200 from the Scouts would just be, 85 00:03:28,266 --> 00:03:30,966 you know, leadership, confidence, 86 00:03:31,033 --> 00:03:32,866 you know, thinking outside the box. 87 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:35,433 Hopefully she takes some good communication skills 88 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:36,700 away from it. 89 00:03:36,766 --> 00:03:39,566 You know, just solid, simple things. 90 00:03:39,633 --> 00:03:41,533 I just want people to know that Scouts is still out there. 91 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,400 You know, there's still a lot of lessons to be learned 92 00:03:43,466 --> 00:03:44,733 and a lot of fun to be had. 93 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,900 And it doesn't hurt to seek out a local troop 94 00:03:47,966 --> 00:03:49,866 and see if you can join. 95 00:03:49,933 --> 00:03:55,866 ♪♪ 96 00:03:55,933 --> 00:03:57,200 [ Indistinct conversation ] 97 00:03:57,266 --> 00:03:59,633 Tom: I'm trying to think. Kevin: You don't know, do you? 98 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:01,033 Nathan: Good morning, guys. 99 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:02,533 Jenn: Oh. Good morning. Kevin: How are you? 100 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,166 Nathan: So, I got a really cool video from my sister. 101 00:04:05,233 --> 00:04:07,533 My niece is a Girl Scout in a Brownie troop, 102 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,900 and they sent over this video, 103 00:04:08,966 --> 00:04:10,566 and I think you guys want to take a look at this. 104 00:04:10,633 --> 00:04:11,933 Kevin: Okay. Tom: Okay. 105 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,466 Kevin: Everyone in the family is the Scouts. 106 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:14,500 Tom: Look at that. 107 00:04:14,566 --> 00:04:16,600 Scouts: Hi, "Ask This Old House"! 108 00:04:16,666 --> 00:04:17,866 Audrey: Hi, Uncle Nate! 109 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:20,266 Jenn: Aww! Tom: That's great. 110 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:21,733 Scout 1: These are our garden beds. 111 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Scout 2: We built them a few years ago. 112 00:04:24,266 --> 00:04:26,100 Tom: Oh. Jenn: [ Laughs ] 113 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:27,700 Scout 3: They are in very rough shape. 114 00:04:27,766 --> 00:04:29,066 Kevin: Yes, they are. 115 00:04:29,133 --> 00:04:30,800 Tom: A few weeds there, too. Jenn: Yeah, just a couple. 116 00:04:30,866 --> 00:04:32,966 Scout 4: They're growing weeds like crazy. 117 00:04:33,033 --> 00:04:34,933 Scout 5: The wood's getting all splintery. 118 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,833 Scouts: Can you help us?! 119 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:38,466 Tom: Oh, yeah. Kevin: Unbelievable. 120 00:04:38,533 --> 00:04:40,900 Jenn: Okay, if there's a cry of help, that's one of 'em. 121 00:04:40,966 --> 00:04:42,833 Kevin: Yeah. What's cuter than a bunch of Brownies, huh? 122 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:44,666 We got to help them out there. Jenn, it's gardening, 123 00:04:44,733 --> 00:04:46,300 so it's kind of your thing. 124 00:04:46,366 --> 00:04:48,733 Jenn: Well, I think that there could be 125 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,433 new raised planter beds, maybe new wood. 126 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:52,033 Maybe they stay in the same footprint 127 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:53,533 but just dress it up a little bit. 128 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,333 And looked like there were some perennials amongst the weeds, 129 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,133 so maybe we could reuse some of them 130 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,533 or give the rest away to people. 131 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,333 But I think it needs something, like an accent piece. 132 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,333 Kevin: Something we could build? And when I say "we"... 133 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,166 Jenn: That's why I'm kind of like, "Something." 134 00:05:07,233 --> 00:05:08,833 Kevin: When I say "we," I mean, you know... 135 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:10,700 Jenn: Something, like, maybe for an herb garden. 136 00:05:10,766 --> 00:05:12,666 Tom: I'll think about it. Yeah. Jenn: You up for it? 137 00:05:12,733 --> 00:05:14,366 Tom: Yeah, absolutely. Kevin: So if you guys 138 00:05:14,433 --> 00:05:16,500 handle kind of what's there, get the materials 139 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:18,600 for what you need, maybe we think about something new? 140 00:05:18,666 --> 00:05:19,833 Does that work? Jenn: Deal. 141 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:21,500 Kevin: Alright. Good. Tom: Works for me. 142 00:05:21,566 --> 00:05:22,766 Kevin: They're gonna pay in cookies, right? 143 00:05:22,833 --> 00:05:25,800 Jenn: I hope so. Tom: I love Girl Scout cookies. 144 00:05:25,866 --> 00:05:28,033 Kevin: Alright, Tommy. An herb garden. 145 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:29,600 What is the maestro thinking? 146 00:05:29,666 --> 00:05:31,166 Tom: Alright, well, I'm thinking a little different. 147 00:05:31,233 --> 00:05:33,500 Something like a hexagon... Kevin: Hm. 148 00:05:33,566 --> 00:05:35,266 Tom: ...with a hexagon inside it. 149 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:37,200 Kevin: Hmm! Tom: And then little planters 150 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:39,433 around the exterior of the center hexagon. 151 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:41,600 Kevin: That's funny 'cause I was thinking square. 152 00:05:41,666 --> 00:05:43,666 [ Laughs ] But okay. It's for the Girl Scouts. 153 00:05:43,733 --> 00:05:45,300 Let's jazz it up a little bit. Tom: Yeah, exactly. 154 00:05:45,366 --> 00:05:47,200 Let's start with a circle. 155 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:50,466 Now, a hexagon has six equal sides. 156 00:05:50,533 --> 00:05:53,166 So, if I take the radius of the circle 157 00:05:53,233 --> 00:05:55,200 and space it out six equal times 158 00:05:55,266 --> 00:05:58,033 around the circle, I'll get my hexagon. 159 00:05:58,100 --> 00:06:01,033 So these are equilateral triangles. 160 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:04,766 Kevin: Equilateral. All three sides of a triangle are equal. 161 00:06:04,833 --> 00:06:05,900 Tom: Exactly. 162 00:06:05,966 --> 00:06:07,133 Kevin: That's an equilateral triangle. 163 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,266 Tom: Exactly. Kevin: So if we want to make 164 00:06:09,333 --> 00:06:12,600 a planter that is this diameter, 165 00:06:12,666 --> 00:06:14,366 what are you thinking in terms of total size? 166 00:06:14,433 --> 00:06:16,166 Tom: Alright. So, let's say 40 inches. 167 00:06:16,233 --> 00:06:18,066 Kevin: Okay. Tom: Diameter is 40". 168 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:20,100 Half of that is 20". Kevin: Gotcha. 169 00:06:20,166 --> 00:06:22,766 Tom: So that means we have 20", 20"... 170 00:06:22,833 --> 00:06:24,633 Kevin: Ohh! There's our outside cut. 171 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:26,400 Tom: That's our outside cut. Kevin: So now we need 172 00:06:26,466 --> 00:06:28,200 one, two, three, four, five, six pieces. 173 00:06:28,266 --> 00:06:29,666 About 20 inches. 174 00:06:29,733 --> 00:06:31,266 We just have to figure out the miter. 175 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:33,600 Tom: Okay. The miter. Now, inside the circle -- 176 00:06:33,666 --> 00:06:35,866 360 degrees, 6 equal parts. 177 00:06:35,933 --> 00:06:40,300 That's 60 degrees. 60 degrees is right here. 178 00:06:40,366 --> 00:06:42,200 Kevin: Every one of those inside is 60. 179 00:06:42,266 --> 00:06:44,933 Tom: Every one of these are 60 degrees. Okay? 180 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,900 Now, because of the way the miter saw cuts angles, 181 00:06:47,966 --> 00:06:51,566 if you want to make a 60-degree angle on a board, 182 00:06:51,633 --> 00:06:55,700 you need to set the saw at 30 degrees to make that cut. 183 00:06:55,766 --> 00:06:58,200 Kevin: Right, because zero degrees on a miter saw 184 00:06:58,266 --> 00:07:00,833 is actually at a 90-degree angle to the piece. 185 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:02,566 Tom: Correct. Kevin: So you're going to have 186 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:04,233 six pieces cut at 20 inches long 187 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:06,966 with two 30-degree angles on the outside? 188 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:08,333 Tom: Exactly. Kevin: Girl Scouts, 189 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,066 this is why you need to stay in school. 190 00:07:10,133 --> 00:07:13,233 I have an MBA, and that's -- my head's melting. [Laughs] 191 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:14,833 How do you know -- Tom: This is fun stuff. 192 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:17,433 Kevin: Let's do it. Tom: Alright. 193 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:21,166 Alright. So... set my saw at 30 degrees. 194 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,033 I'm using cedar because it's rot-resistant. 195 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:29,866 I don't want to use pressure-treated 196 00:07:29,933 --> 00:07:32,233 because the chemicals will leach into the soil 197 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:34,366 and get absorbed by the herbs. 198 00:07:36,566 --> 00:07:39,033 Okay. So now we flip it over. 199 00:07:41,133 --> 00:07:43,833 I'll make it 20 and 1/8". Long to long. 200 00:07:55,366 --> 00:07:57,800 [ Saw buzzing ] 201 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:16,266 ♪♪ 202 00:08:16,333 --> 00:08:24,033 ♪♪ 203 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:31,766 ♪♪ 204 00:08:31,833 --> 00:08:39,500 ♪♪ 205 00:08:39,566 --> 00:08:41,366 Kevin: Alright. 206 00:08:41,433 --> 00:08:42,800 Tom: Now, we could turn these miters, 207 00:08:42,866 --> 00:08:44,600 and they'd go the other way, but I'm going to do 208 00:08:44,666 --> 00:08:46,700 a lapped miter, basically. 209 00:08:48,466 --> 00:08:50,666 That way, it'll be easier to join the boards together 210 00:08:50,733 --> 00:08:51,866 with screws. 211 00:08:51,933 --> 00:08:53,533 Want to pre-drill those holes. 212 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,633 Less chance of splitting the wood. 213 00:08:55,700 --> 00:09:03,300 ♪♪ 214 00:09:03,366 --> 00:09:10,933 ♪♪ 215 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:18,600 ♪♪ 216 00:09:18,666 --> 00:09:20,333 Kevin: Hey. Alright. 217 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,366 So, we've got ourselves one hexagon down. 218 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:25,766 That looks pretty cool. Tom: Yeah. 219 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:27,200 Alright. Now, that's the first one. 220 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:29,966 Now we have to build another one to fit inside. 221 00:09:30,033 --> 00:09:31,666 Kevin: Oh, gosh. Tom: It's a little bit tricky. 222 00:09:31,733 --> 00:09:32,766 We have to think about it. 223 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:36,700 The hexagon inside has to be basically 224 00:09:36,766 --> 00:09:39,166 shorter than this piece. 225 00:09:39,233 --> 00:09:41,966 From the long point here to the long point here, 226 00:09:42,033 --> 00:09:43,600 20 and 1/8". Kevin: Got it. 227 00:09:43,666 --> 00:09:46,233 Tom: I now have to measure this side piece 228 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:48,966 on the diagonal -- 1 and 3/4". 229 00:09:49,033 --> 00:09:52,366 We take the 1 and 3/4" off the 20 and 1/8". 230 00:09:52,433 --> 00:09:55,333 Kevin: 20 and 1/8 minus an 1 and 3/4 is... 231 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,433 18 and 3/8? 232 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:00,233 Tom: 3/8. Kevin: Is that right? 233 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:03,433 Tom: 18 and 3/8, and that will be from long to long 234 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:06,000 for this piece, this piece, that piece, and so on. 235 00:10:06,066 --> 00:10:07,266 And that will give us our -- 236 00:10:07,333 --> 00:10:09,066 Kevin: That's why we have to cut them. 237 00:10:09,133 --> 00:10:11,700 Tom: Right. Now, another way you can figure it is... 238 00:10:11,766 --> 00:10:14,066 for this hexagon... 239 00:10:14,133 --> 00:10:16,966 is 3'4", or 40 inches. 240 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,633 Kevin: That was our diameter. Tom: It's actually 40 and 1/4". 241 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:21,233 So that's our length. 242 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:23,000 Kevin: We cut that in half. Tom: Right. 243 00:10:23,066 --> 00:10:24,566 Kevin: 40 and 1/4. 20 and 1/8. 244 00:10:24,633 --> 00:10:26,600 Tom: So to get the length for the inside ones, 245 00:10:26,666 --> 00:10:28,566 I would make a circle. 246 00:10:28,633 --> 00:10:33,233 And this way, that is 36 and 3/4". 247 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:36,600 Divide that in half. It's 18 and 3/8". 248 00:10:36,666 --> 00:10:39,700 Kevin: I cannot wait for a Girl Scout cookie. Let's just cut. 249 00:10:39,766 --> 00:10:41,566 Tom: Alright. Let's get them cut. 250 00:11:08,533 --> 00:11:10,833 Kevin: Honestly, Tommy, I got very little -- 251 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:12,166 Tom: No faith? 252 00:11:12,233 --> 00:11:15,100 Kevin: No, I have all the faith in the world, but... 253 00:11:15,166 --> 00:11:17,633 the math and the geometry test you put me through here. 254 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:20,133 Tom: I always loved the challenge. When I framed roofs 255 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,033 and stuff like that, it was always fun. 256 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:23,800 Gazebos. All kinds of stupid things. 257 00:11:23,866 --> 00:11:25,100 Kevin: You know what I don't frame? 258 00:11:25,166 --> 00:11:26,366 Tom: What? Kevin: Roofs. 259 00:11:26,433 --> 00:11:29,766 Tom: [ Laughs ] Kevin: Because of this. 260 00:11:29,833 --> 00:11:32,066 Tom: Eh, it's nice. It's fun. 261 00:11:32,133 --> 00:11:34,200 Kevin: Oh, moment of truth. Will it fit? 262 00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:36,733 Tom: Oh, it's gonna fit. 263 00:11:38,266 --> 00:11:40,366 Kevin: Oh, my gosh. Tom: Look at that. 264 00:11:44,666 --> 00:11:47,433 Kevin: Pythagoras Pops. Tom: Pythagoras Pops. 265 00:11:57,533 --> 00:11:59,066 Kevin: That really tightened it up. 266 00:11:59,133 --> 00:12:00,166 Tom: Perfect. Kevin: Alright. 267 00:12:00,233 --> 00:12:02,533 Let's take a look. There you go. Wow! 268 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,900 Wow, Pops! That looks terrific! 269 00:12:04,966 --> 00:12:07,400 Cannot wait for the Girl Scouts to see this. 270 00:12:07,466 --> 00:12:09,400 Tom: Now we just need Nathan to pick it up. 271 00:12:09,466 --> 00:12:12,100 Kevin: Beautiful. Well done. Tom: Fun project. 272 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,366 ♪♪ 273 00:12:14,433 --> 00:12:15,933 Nathan: Tommy's planter looks incredible. 274 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,933 It's really going to be the centerpiece of this garden. 275 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,333 Jenn: It looks beautiful. Nathan: Came out great. 276 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,600 So what's all this stuff in the back of the truck? 277 00:12:22,666 --> 00:12:25,633 Jenn: Oh, that stuff.  So, I brought plants 278 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:27,666 for different themes, for different garden beds. 279 00:12:27,733 --> 00:12:29,600 Since there's going to be four different beds, 280 00:12:29,666 --> 00:12:31,966 I thought it'd be fun to have a theme for each of them. 281 00:12:32,033 --> 00:12:35,833 So one -- butterfly plants. Plants that attract butterflies. 282 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:37,466 Another one, I got a bunch of herbs 283 00:12:37,533 --> 00:12:39,400 so we could maybe put them in Tommy's planter. 284 00:12:39,466 --> 00:12:41,166 I don't know. We'll let the girls decide, yeah? 285 00:12:41,233 --> 00:12:42,500 Nathan: Yeah. That'll look great. 286 00:12:42,566 --> 00:12:45,600 Jenn: Yeah, and then also got landscape fabric, 287 00:12:45,666 --> 00:12:47,566 which is a weed barrier we'll put at the bottom 288 00:12:47,633 --> 00:12:50,666 of the planters to deter weeds from coming up at the bottom. 289 00:12:50,733 --> 00:12:53,500 And then also brought bags of -- It's a mixture 290 00:12:53,566 --> 00:12:57,200 of soil, compost, and fertilizer, all organic. 291 00:12:57,266 --> 00:12:58,733 But just to get anything started, 292 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,400 from whether it's vegetables, herbs, or cut flowers. 293 00:13:02,466 --> 00:13:04,266 Nathan: So all these plants are really going to take off 294 00:13:04,333 --> 00:13:06,200 once we get them in the ground. Jenn: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 295 00:13:06,266 --> 00:13:07,866 Nathan: Perfect. Well, I just spoke to my sister. 296 00:13:07,933 --> 00:13:09,400 They're out there in front of the town hall. 297 00:13:09,466 --> 00:13:11,566 They're waiting for us. My niece is there. 298 00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:13,033 All of the Girl Scouts, the leaders. 299 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:14,966 I think we just got to show up and get started. 300 00:13:15,033 --> 00:13:18,033 Jenn: Your niece is there? I cannot wait to meet her. 301 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:21,366 If she's anything like you. You know. Um... 302 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:23,600 But, yeah, their energy is going to be fantastic, 303 00:13:23,666 --> 00:13:25,533 and I really can't wait to work with them. 304 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,333 Nathan: It's going to be great. Jenn: Yeah. 305 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:33,966 ♪♪ 306 00:13:34,033 --> 00:13:35,733 Nathan: Hi, Andrea. Andrea: Hey, Nate. Hey, Jenn. 307 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,233 Jenn: How are you? Andrea: Good to see you. 308 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:39,000 Jenn: Good to see you. Andrea: These are troop leaders, 309 00:13:39,066 --> 00:13:40,900 Jill and Tara. Tara: Hi. How are you? 310 00:13:40,966 --> 00:13:42,633 Nathan: We got your awesome video, 311 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:43,900 and we're very excited to be here. 312 00:13:43,966 --> 00:13:45,900 Jenn: Yeah. Loved it. Why don't we walk through, 313 00:13:45,966 --> 00:13:47,800 check out the beds that you have? 314 00:13:47,866 --> 00:13:50,966 Tell us what you want to change and what you want to do maybe. 315 00:13:51,033 --> 00:13:52,333 Andrea: These are our garden beds. 316 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,933 They were built about 10 years ago by another troop. 317 00:13:55,033 --> 00:13:57,266 Tara: We took them over about three years ago, 318 00:13:57,333 --> 00:13:59,733 and as you can see, the weeds have since taken over 319 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,933 and the wood is extremely splintered. 320 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,633 Jenn: Well, what I see, there's a lot of good perennials, 321 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:07,533 and I'm thinking we excavate them all out. 322 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,233 We could divide them, split them up, or give some away. 323 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:11,566 And then what do you think? 324 00:14:11,633 --> 00:14:12,866 Nathan: I think we get a fresh start. 325 00:14:12,933 --> 00:14:14,466 I brought some red cedar with me. 326 00:14:14,533 --> 00:14:17,200 We'll reframe the beds and make them our own. 327 00:14:17,266 --> 00:14:18,966 Jenn: So are the girls ready to work? 328 00:14:19,033 --> 00:14:20,233 Andrea: They are! Jenn: Alright. 329 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:22,500 Let's get the girls and the tools and do it. 330 00:14:22,566 --> 00:14:28,466 ♪♪ 331 00:14:28,533 --> 00:14:31,600 Okay, girls, let's go start with this planter up front. 332 00:14:31,666 --> 00:14:34,866 Scout: Okay. What weeds are we supposed to pick? 333 00:14:34,933 --> 00:14:37,966 Jenn: Well, we're going to pick everything out of here, 334 00:14:38,033 --> 00:14:40,200 but we'll take the weeds in one batch 335 00:14:40,266 --> 00:14:43,133 and then the perennials in the other batch. 336 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,733 Scout: So which ones are the perennials 337 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,166 and which ones are we saving? Jenn: Very good question. 338 00:14:47,233 --> 00:14:49,266 So, I see a lot of perennials in this bed, 339 00:14:49,333 --> 00:14:51,133 and these are called daylilies. 340 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,966 And what we'll do is dig around them and pop them up. 341 00:14:54,033 --> 00:14:56,400 And then this one is a geranium, 342 00:14:56,466 --> 00:14:59,033 but it looks like all these weeds are right in between. 343 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:02,333 So we could either use our hands or use shovels, okay? 344 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,333 Scout: How do we pull it out with our hands? 345 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,700 Jenn: Well, see, the thing with the perennials, 346 00:15:06,766 --> 00:15:08,200 we definitely need a shovel for that 347 00:15:08,266 --> 00:15:09,633 'cause you want to get a good -- 348 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:11,866 you want to get all the roots that are underneath. 349 00:15:11,933 --> 00:15:14,433 And then we pop it out and we put it to the side. 350 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:16,833 Scout: Do we pull from the bottom of those weeds 351 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:18,733 or do we pull from the top of them? 352 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,733 Jenn: That is a very good question because with weeds 353 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,333 you want to get the roots out. 354 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,966 Scout: So you want this from the bottom, right? 355 00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:25,800 Jenn: Yes. So, I'll demonstrate. 356 00:15:25,866 --> 00:15:28,166 It's kind of therapeutic. I think it's fun. 357 00:15:28,233 --> 00:15:30,900 So you can just use your hands and then just... 358 00:15:30,966 --> 00:15:33,266 just pull, pull. 359 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:35,733 And you try to get all the roots system up. 360 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,433 Scout: Should we just start? Jenn: Yes. Go for it. 361 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:40,166 Scout: Why are weeds bad? 362 00:15:40,233 --> 00:15:42,700 Jenn: They're not necessarily bad, but sometimes -- 363 00:15:42,766 --> 00:15:45,166 Scout: Sometimes they make the plants die. 364 00:15:45,233 --> 00:15:46,900 Jenn: Yeah, sometimes they compete 365 00:15:46,966 --> 00:15:49,433 with all the nutrients in the soil, 366 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,800 and then they start to choke the good plants. 367 00:15:51,866 --> 00:15:54,533 So they kind of invade your garden. 368 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Scout: I like growing strawberries and watermelons. 369 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:59,866 Jenn: Oh, that's fun. 370 00:15:59,933 --> 00:16:02,566 Scout: Oh, my God! We got it! Jenn: Yes! 371 00:16:02,633 --> 00:16:06,000 Look at you guys! Awesome! 372 00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:07,300 Careful... 373 00:16:07,366 --> 00:16:10,700 Put it on the blue. Yes! Look at you guys! 374 00:16:10,766 --> 00:16:13,100 Aww. I love it. Would you like that? 375 00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:15,266 Scout: Yeah. 376 00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:17,666 Nathan: Let's get started with this corner box right here. 377 00:16:17,733 --> 00:16:21,800 What we're going to do is we're going to work it in there 378 00:16:21,866 --> 00:16:23,500 and we're just going to pry these away. 379 00:16:23,566 --> 00:16:25,600 Now, there's going to be nails that are going to come out 380 00:16:25,666 --> 00:16:29,066 with these boards, so we want to be really careful. 381 00:16:29,133 --> 00:16:32,800 Alright. So that's one. Let's work our way this way. 382 00:16:32,866 --> 00:16:34,000 Jenn: Perfect. 383 00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:36,100 [ Indistinct conversation ] [ Jenn laughs ] 384 00:16:36,166 --> 00:16:38,133 Nathan: Give it a pry. There you go. Good job. 385 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Alright. Watch out for those nails. 386 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:43,733 Nice job, Audrey. 387 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,533 Alright. Want to grab this? Alright. Nice and safe. 388 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,900 Thank you. Keep wiggling it like a tooth. 389 00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:52,533 Keep wiggling, wiggling, wiggling. 390 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,300 It'll pop out. Good job. 391 00:16:56,366 --> 00:16:58,566 Jenn: Hold it and jump on both of it. 392 00:16:58,633 --> 00:17:01,266 Yeah. And then put your other foot there and then jump. 393 00:17:01,333 --> 00:17:03,833 Scout: Like that? Jenn: That's so good. 394 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,100 Nathan: Alright. This side's already loose, 395 00:17:06,166 --> 00:17:08,400 so all you need to do is one side. 396 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:10,500 Keep pulling. Keep pulling. Jenn: Teamwork. 397 00:17:10,566 --> 00:17:13,666 Nathan: Nice job. There you go. Perfect. Good job. 398 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,700 Let's hammer out those old rusty nails 399 00:17:15,766 --> 00:17:18,433 so the boards can be disposed of safely. 400 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,800 More. Big swing. Big swing. Big swing. 401 00:17:23,566 --> 00:17:24,566 Jenn: Very good. 402 00:17:24,633 --> 00:17:28,033 Scout: Okay. Now... 403 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:30,133 Jenn: One, two, three. Rah! 404 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,166 Ooh, ooh! Careful! [ Laughs ] 405 00:17:33,233 --> 00:17:43,033 ♪♪ 406 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:52,933 ♪♪ 407 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,866 Nathan: We're gonna start putting these boxes together. 408 00:17:54,933 --> 00:17:56,333 Now, I already cut everything to length 409 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,100 and I pre-drilled everything. What we're gonna do 410 00:17:58,166 --> 00:18:00,266 is make two boxes -- one big one and one little one. 411 00:18:00,333 --> 00:18:02,366 We'll put the big one in first, then we'll stack it 412 00:18:02,433 --> 00:18:04,766 with the smaller one. 413 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:06,833 Alright. We're going to use some 3-inch 414 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:08,500 stainless-steel screws. 415 00:18:08,566 --> 00:18:11,233 These screws are really good because they won't rust or rot. 416 00:18:13,766 --> 00:18:15,133 Good. 417 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:20,866 [ Scouts humming ] 418 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:22,666 Alright! There we go! 419 00:18:22,733 --> 00:18:23,700 Scout: Now we just need more dirt. 420 00:18:23,766 --> 00:18:25,566 Nathan: So let's wiggle it around. 421 00:18:25,633 --> 00:18:29,566 What we need to do is we need to check and make sure it's square. 422 00:18:29,633 --> 00:18:33,000 So we have just under 9 feet. So now you go to that corner. 423 00:18:33,066 --> 00:18:35,900 Hop back for me. Alright. 424 00:18:38,433 --> 00:18:40,333 Alright. So we're stronger than 9 feet. 425 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,433 So we know that this needs to shrink this way 426 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,600 to make that side grow a little bit longer. 427 00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:48,100 Alright. Alright. Little bit of a push. 428 00:18:48,166 --> 00:18:49,866 We only need to pick up about 1/8". 429 00:18:52,866 --> 00:18:55,866 Alright. Now go the other way. Other corner. 430 00:19:00,266 --> 00:19:03,433 Alright. 9 feet. That's it. Now we're square. 431 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:06,933 Now go ahead and pull that. Perfect. Good job. 432 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,266 So we just want to level it out. 433 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:12,000 [ Drill whirring ] 434 00:19:12,066 --> 00:19:15,266 Yep. Put it right around that corner. Nice. 435 00:19:15,333 --> 00:19:18,933 So what we'll do now is we'll secure it to those corners. 436 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:29,033 Jenn: Alright. Now let's put Tommy and Kevin's 437 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,100 beautiful planter in place. 438 00:19:31,166 --> 00:19:33,866 That looks so good, Nathan. Nathan: I love it. 439 00:19:33,933 --> 00:19:36,700 Tommy did a great job. Jenn: Yeah! 440 00:19:36,766 --> 00:19:38,066 Andrea: Hi, Nathan. Hi, Jenn. Jenn: Hi! 441 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:40,133 Andrea: We are back with another group of Girl Scouts. 442 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,300 These are our Daisies. 443 00:19:41,366 --> 00:19:42,966 Nathan: Hey, everyone. Jenn: Hi, Daisies. 444 00:19:43,033 --> 00:19:44,800 Nathan: What do you guys think? Daisies: Good. 445 00:19:44,866 --> 00:19:46,633 Nathan: Good? We're not done yet, though. 446 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,700 Jenn: So, since there's four planters, 447 00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:52,033 I was thinking that we could have a theme for each one. 448 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:56,166 So I was thinking butterfly garden, herb garden, 449 00:19:56,233 --> 00:19:58,933 sunflower garden, and... 450 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,133 Nathan: Random one. Jenn: Rando. Totally random. 451 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,900 You guys get to pick whichever plant 452 00:20:02,966 --> 00:20:04,566 that you want to put in it, okay? 453 00:20:04,633 --> 00:20:06,600 Daisies: Yeah! Nathan: Let's get started. 454 00:20:06,666 --> 00:20:13,633 ♪♪ 455 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:15,733 Jenn: To get started, we need to fill in the rest 456 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,500 of the beds with garden soil. 457 00:20:17,566 --> 00:20:20,433 Normally I'd put a layer of landscape fabric underneath, 458 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:23,566 but since these existing beds already have landscape fabric, 459 00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:25,100 we can skip this step. 460 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:28,966 ♪♪ 461 00:20:29,033 --> 00:20:31,200 Doesn't that feel so good? Girl: Yeah. 462 00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:38,600 ♪♪ 463 00:20:38,666 --> 00:20:45,966 ♪♪ 464 00:20:46,033 --> 00:20:48,033 Nathan: So I'm going to pull this one out. 465 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,933 Jenn: And then -- So can I put this one right here? 466 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,966 Girl: Yeah. 467 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:52,266 Jenn: This is called a butterfly bush. 468 00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:54,066 Nathan: Oh, that's perfect. 469 00:20:54,133 --> 00:20:57,233 Jenn: You guys! This is looking so good! 470 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:59,433 Nathan: See, no one else gets to eat theirs. 471 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,800 We get to eat ours. 472 00:21:01,866 --> 00:21:04,233 Jenn: Perfect! Girl: Yay! I got it out! 473 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:07,533 ♪♪ 474 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,400 Jenn: So these are mammoth sunflowers, 475 00:21:09,466 --> 00:21:12,366 and you're supposed to plant them one inch deep. 476 00:21:12,433 --> 00:21:14,600 We'll put them all in, and at the end, 477 00:21:14,666 --> 00:21:17,333 we'll put the soil over the top. 478 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,533 Believe it or not, these tiny, tiny, little seeds 479 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000 are going to get huge! 480 00:21:22,066 --> 00:21:24,100 ♪♪ 481 00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:26,700 Perfect. 482 00:21:26,766 --> 00:21:28,900 Give that one a good, good soaking. 483 00:21:28,966 --> 00:21:32,833 ♪♪ 484 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:34,466 Nathan: Alright, girls. What do you think? 485 00:21:34,533 --> 00:21:36,133 Girls: Awesome! 486 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,233 Nathan: Well, thank you so much for everything today. 487 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:40,300 You guys were a huge help. Jenn: And I really liked 488 00:21:40,366 --> 00:21:43,333 how you put everything and placed everything in the beds. 489 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,600 You did a great job planting. 490 00:21:44,666 --> 00:21:46,733 Andrea: Jenn and Nate, we can't thank you enough 491 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,066 for coming out and doing this for us. 492 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:49,266 And when you see Tommy and Kevin, 493 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:50,600 can you say thank you for us, as well, 494 00:21:50,666 --> 00:21:52,200 for the herb garden? Nathan: We will. We will. 495 00:21:52,266 --> 00:21:54,766 Jenn: Absolutely. They did a beautiful job, as well. 496 00:21:54,833 --> 00:21:58,100 So, if you've got questions, keep them coming 497 00:21:58,166 --> 00:21:59,900 because we'd love to hear from you. 498 00:21:59,966 --> 00:22:01,900 Until next time, I'm Jenn Nawada... 499 00:22:01,966 --> 00:22:04,433 Nathan: And I'm Nathan Gilbert for "Ask This Old House." 500 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:06,133 Jenn: So who's in charge of watering? 501 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,666 Girls: Me! 502 00:22:07,733 --> 00:22:15,600 ♪♪ 503 00:22:15,666 --> 00:22:23,500 ♪♪ 504 00:22:23,566 --> 00:22:31,400 ♪♪ 505 00:22:31,466 --> 00:22:39,333 ♪♪ 506 00:22:41,933 --> 00:22:44,166 Kevin: Next time on "Ask This Old House"... 507 00:22:44,233 --> 00:22:46,466 have you been trying to brighten up your outdoor space? 508 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:49,200 Heath installs a set of patio lights. 509 00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:51,200 Heath: You want the honors? Woman: Yes, please. 510 00:22:51,266 --> 00:22:53,633 Heath: Top button's on, bottom button's off. 511 00:22:54,766 --> 00:22:56,233 Woman: Looks great. Heath. Wow. Looks great. 512 00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:58,200 Gotta tell you. I'm really happy with the way this turned out. 513 00:22:58,266 --> 00:23:00,833 Simple, fun DIY project. 514 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:03,800 Kevin: Then Mauro helps a homeowner paint metal cabinets 515 00:23:03,866 --> 00:23:06,166 in her 1950s vintage kitchen. 516 00:23:06,233 --> 00:23:08,033 Woman: It looks like a perfect match. 517 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:10,433 Kevin: All that on "Ask This Old House."