1 00:00:00,700 --> 00:00:05,233 ♪♪ 2 00:00:05,300 --> 00:00:06,600 Kevin: On "Ask This Old House," 3 00:00:06,666 --> 00:00:09,066 our experts travel across the country 4 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:11,633 to answer questions about your house. 5 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:18,833 ♪♪ 6 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:21,766 Today, Mauro shows a homeowner the correct way 7 00:00:21,833 --> 00:00:23,800 to repair a wall crack. 8 00:00:23,866 --> 00:00:26,033 Mauro: Okay, press the tape down. 9 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:28,533 Stretch it out all the way down. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,100 Kevin: Then we challenge our crew 11 00:00:30,166 --> 00:00:32,900 with a game of "What Is It?" 12 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:37,566 and Richard helps a homeowner update their baseboard covers... 13 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:41,266 Richard: What do you think? Man: I think this looks great. 14 00:00:41,333 --> 00:00:43,766 Kevin: ...on "Ask This Old House." 15 00:00:46,933 --> 00:00:50,733 ♪♪ 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,500 Mauro: Hello? Chris: Hey, Mauro. 17 00:00:52,566 --> 00:00:53,666 Mauro: Chris. Chris: Welcome to our home. 18 00:00:53,733 --> 00:00:54,900 Mauro: Thank you. Nice to meet you. 19 00:00:54,966 --> 00:00:56,166 Chris: Likewise. 20 00:00:56,233 --> 00:00:57,500 Mauro: Wow. Look at this house. 21 00:00:57,566 --> 00:00:58,933 I really like this. 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,666 Chris: Yeah. Thank you. 23 00:01:00,733 --> 00:01:03,966 I think it's built in 2013. Mauro: 2013? Yeah? 24 00:01:04,033 --> 00:01:06,733 Chris: And my wife and I moved in in 2014. 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,566 Mauro: Wow. Look at this kitchen. Really nice. 26 00:01:09,633 --> 00:01:11,000 Chris: Yeah. So at that time, it was just us. 27 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:13,466 Mauro: Okay. Chris: And since that time, 28 00:01:13,533 --> 00:01:17,100 we've had two kids, and we moved the laundry upstairs... 29 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:18,333 Mauro: On the second floor. Chris: ...to account for all 30 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,966 the little ones' laundry. 31 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:21,766 And one of the things, 32 00:01:21,833 --> 00:01:23,433 so we had to have a plumber open up this wall. 33 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,400 And when they did that, 34 00:01:25,466 --> 00:01:29,166 this crack appeared, and I've tried to patch it. 35 00:01:29,233 --> 00:01:30,466 I don't know what to do it. 36 00:01:30,533 --> 00:01:32,200 It keeps coming back. 37 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:34,733 Mauro: Well, I can see the crack going across up there 38 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,000 and coming down here on this wall, and it stops right there. 39 00:01:39,066 --> 00:01:42,533 And also I see a crack on this side going down 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,800 and across the bottom here. 41 00:01:44,866 --> 00:01:47,633 When I see cracks showing up like that, 42 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:49,600 it means there was no mesh tape applied to it. 43 00:01:49,666 --> 00:01:51,066 Mauro: Okay? Chris: Got it. 44 00:01:51,133 --> 00:01:52,300 Mauro: That's why you see the crack keeps coming back 45 00:01:52,366 --> 00:01:53,566 all the time. 46 00:01:53,633 --> 00:01:54,700 Chris: So how can you tell it's mesh tape 47 00:01:54,766 --> 00:01:56,133 that would be the fix? 48 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,900 Mauro: Just because I can see the crack showing up. 49 00:01:57,966 --> 00:02:00,833 And then if you knock on here... [ Knocking ] 50 00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:02,533 ...you can see there's nothing. 51 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,666 The surface is very flat, 52 00:02:04,733 --> 00:02:07,900 but the two pieces of drywall are moving 53 00:02:07,966 --> 00:02:10,066 and then forming the cracks. 54 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:11,933 That's why you should've used the mesh tape. 55 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,433 Also, the materials contract and expand a lot, 56 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:17,833 and it helps to show more cracks coming up 57 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:19,766 on the face of the wall. 58 00:02:19,833 --> 00:02:21,533 So we're going to open up those cracks a little bit. 59 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,566 We're going to fill it up with the joint compound. 60 00:02:23,633 --> 00:02:25,766 And then we're going to apply the mesh tape 61 00:02:25,833 --> 00:02:28,033 and cover the mesh tape with the junk compound. 62 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,900 And then those cracks might happen behind the tape, 63 00:02:31,966 --> 00:02:34,200 but it's not going to show up on your wall 64 00:02:34,266 --> 00:02:36,933 because the mesh tape will prevent that to happen. 65 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Chris: Got it. Mauro: Alright? 66 00:02:38,266 --> 00:02:39,300 Chris: I'm excited. Mauro: Okay. 67 00:02:39,366 --> 00:02:41,033 So I'm going to step out, 68 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:43,233 get some stuff that we need to fix this. 69 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:45,300 But I got a question for you. Chris: Yeah. 70 00:02:45,366 --> 00:02:48,300 Mauro: Do you remember the name or the number of this color? 71 00:02:48,366 --> 00:02:50,900 Chris: As a matter of fact, we have some laying around. 72 00:02:50,966 --> 00:02:52,000 I have some down in the basement. 73 00:02:52,066 --> 00:02:53,500 Mauro: Oh, great. 74 00:02:53,566 --> 00:02:54,933 So if it's still good, we're going to use the same paint. 75 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,333 I'll be right back and we're going to work. 76 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,566 Mauro: Alright? Chris: Alright. 77 00:02:57,633 --> 00:03:00,966 I'll get the paint. Mauro: Okay. Thank you. 78 00:03:01,033 --> 00:03:03,333 Well, now the area's protected, 79 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,266 let's start to open those cracks. 80 00:03:06,333 --> 00:03:08,266 Let's go like this. 81 00:03:08,333 --> 00:03:10,233 Chris: Why do we open the crack? 82 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:12,866 Mauro: Because we want to fill them 83 00:03:12,933 --> 00:03:14,933 in order to put the mesh tape on it. 84 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,666 Alright. You want to give it a try? 85 00:03:16,733 --> 00:03:19,333 Chris: I'll give it a try. Mauro: Alright, let's go. 86 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,233 Chris: Alright. Straight down in the crack? 87 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,266 Mauro: Yeah. Go nice and slow. Two hands holding the tool. 88 00:03:24,333 --> 00:03:26,866 Yeah. All the way down the crack. 89 00:03:26,933 --> 00:03:30,433 And open up a little bit. That's great. 90 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:32,200 Alright, Chris, now it's time 91 00:03:32,266 --> 00:03:36,366 for us to make the first batch of the mud. 92 00:03:36,433 --> 00:03:41,066 Alright, bring this over -- the water and my margin trowel. 93 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:42,966 First, what are we going to use, 94 00:03:43,033 --> 00:03:44,733 you're going to add some water first. 95 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,633 Alright? 96 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:48,233 Chris: How do you know how much water to add? 97 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:50,166 Mauro: We'll go by eye. Chris: Okay. 98 00:03:50,233 --> 00:03:53,366 Mauro: And then we're going to use the dry mix. 99 00:03:56,933 --> 00:03:58,966 Just go like that. 100 00:03:59,033 --> 00:04:01,366 Chris: Do you always use the -- 101 00:04:01,433 --> 00:04:04,733 mix it all yourself, or you ever use, like, pre-mixed? 102 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,233 Mauro: You go, you know, by doing this for so long, 103 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:09,733 you know how much water and how much the dry mix 104 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,000 that you have to do it. 105 00:04:11,066 --> 00:04:13,466 But you can always adjust, okay? Chris: Mm-hmm. 106 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:16,400 Mauro: This is dry mix. It's joint compound... 107 00:04:16,466 --> 00:04:19,133 and dries in about five minutes. 108 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Chris: Oh, wow. Mauro: Okay? 109 00:04:20,266 --> 00:04:21,633 This is fast-drying stuff. 110 00:04:21,700 --> 00:04:24,633 Oh, yeah. 111 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:27,666 Okay. This mix is ready to go. 112 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,000 And a coat like this... and then spread. 113 00:04:38,266 --> 00:04:40,433 It's not like that. 114 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:42,433 Two fingers right there. 115 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:44,400 Chris: And are you pushing pretty firmly? 116 00:04:44,466 --> 00:04:47,300 Mauro: You push in kind of a, you know, not a lot of pressure. 117 00:04:47,366 --> 00:04:49,466 Just enough so the mud goes into the crack. 118 00:04:49,533 --> 00:04:51,633 Chris: Got it. Mauro: Okay. 119 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:53,600 Do you want to give it a try? Chris: Sure. 120 00:04:53,666 --> 00:04:56,933 ♪♪ 121 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,466 Mauro: That's good, Chris. Yep. 122 00:04:58,533 --> 00:05:04,533 ♪♪ 123 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,700 Alright, Chris. 124 00:05:05,766 --> 00:05:07,633 Time for you to put some mesh tape. 125 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:10,033 Chris: Yeah. The key ingredient. 126 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:12,266 Mauro: Alright. Start at the end near the cabinets. 127 00:05:12,333 --> 00:05:14,900 Yeah. Just press down with your hands. 128 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:16,566 Yeah. 129 00:05:16,633 --> 00:05:20,500 Okay. Press the tape down, yep, to hold it in place. 130 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:23,400 Chris: Okay. Mauro: Now you're going to use 131 00:05:23,466 --> 00:05:26,833 your putty knife to cut down the tape, alright? 132 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:31,766 Now it's time for another pass of mud to cover the mesh tape. 133 00:05:31,833 --> 00:05:35,100 Well, this is the first of two or three passes 134 00:05:35,166 --> 00:05:37,566 that we have to do to completely cover the mesh tape. 135 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:39,566 Alright? Chris: Okay. 136 00:05:39,633 --> 00:05:41,833 Do we, like, sand it at the end or...? 137 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:43,433 Mauro: We do sand between passes 138 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:46,300 because we want the finish to be nice and smooth, 139 00:05:46,366 --> 00:05:49,333 ready to prime and paint. 140 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,900 The priming process, 141 00:05:50,966 --> 00:05:54,466 we're just going to prime where we have the patch done. 142 00:05:54,533 --> 00:05:56,200 Let's go back. 143 00:05:58,166 --> 00:06:01,766 Chris: All the way up there. Mauro: All the way up and down. 144 00:06:01,833 --> 00:06:03,366 Chris: Start in the middle here as well. 145 00:06:03,433 --> 00:06:05,566 Mauro: Yeah. Always. Yep. 146 00:06:05,633 --> 00:06:08,800 By doing that, you're going to spread that primer evenly. 147 00:06:08,866 --> 00:06:11,800 Chris: Mhm. Mauro: Just fade it out 148 00:06:11,866 --> 00:06:14,066 on the side so you only see -- 149 00:06:14,133 --> 00:06:17,066 When you paint you don't want to see that line of primer. 150 00:06:17,133 --> 00:06:18,166 There we go. 151 00:06:18,233 --> 00:06:19,266 Chris: I think that's good there. 152 00:06:19,333 --> 00:06:20,566 Mauro: That's good. That's perfect. 153 00:06:20,633 --> 00:06:23,233 Chris: Beautiful. Mauro: Yeah. 154 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:25,200 Oh, yeah. Looks good. All the primer's done. 155 00:06:25,266 --> 00:06:27,033 We're going to wait about an hour, 156 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:29,433 and we'll come back and we'll see if it's dry, 157 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:31,200 and it's time to put the first coat of paint. 158 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:33,600 Chris: That sounds great. Mauro: Alright? Cool. 159 00:06:33,666 --> 00:06:43,566 ♪♪ 160 00:06:43,633 --> 00:06:53,500 ♪♪ 161 00:06:53,566 --> 00:07:03,366 ♪♪ 162 00:07:03,433 --> 00:07:05,466 Alright, Chris, first coat is done. 163 00:07:05,533 --> 00:07:07,933 It's time for us to apply the second and final coat. 164 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,866 Chris: So I'm just focusing on cutting the primed area? 165 00:07:10,933 --> 00:07:12,466 Mauro: Exactly. Just cut the same way 166 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:13,600 as you did on the first coat. 167 00:07:13,666 --> 00:07:15,333 And then I'll roll the field. 168 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,966 ♪♪ 169 00:07:21,033 --> 00:07:26,566 ♪♪ 170 00:07:26,633 --> 00:07:28,400 Chris: Wow, it looks great. 171 00:07:28,466 --> 00:07:31,366 Mauro: Look at the difference between before and after. 172 00:07:31,433 --> 00:07:32,733 Chris: Yeah. Mauro: See? 173 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,433 Mesh tape's up, crack is fixed, paint the walls. 174 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:37,033 Looks nice. Chris: It does. Yeah. 175 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:38,733 And I learned a lot. Mauro: Well, now you know 176 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,133 if you see any crack around your house, wall, ceiling, 177 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,966 mesh tape and you're good to go. 178 00:07:43,033 --> 00:07:44,766 Chris: Yeah, I definitely learned a lot. 179 00:07:44,833 --> 00:07:46,266 Mauro: Alright. Chris. Chris: Thank you, Mauro. 180 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:47,766 Mauro: Thanks very much for having us here. 181 00:07:47,833 --> 00:07:49,433 Enjoy this beautiful house. 182 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:50,500 Chris: Thank you. 183 00:07:50,566 --> 00:07:55,100 ♪♪ 184 00:07:55,166 --> 00:07:57,700 [ Power tools whirring, hammer thudding ] 185 00:07:57,766 --> 00:08:00,833 ♪♪ 186 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:02,500 Tom: Alright. Here we go. 187 00:08:02,566 --> 00:08:04,266 It's black, 188 00:08:04,333 --> 00:08:07,833 it's square, and it has a ball on the end of it. 189 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:09,266 Richard: Okay. Tom: What is it? 190 00:08:09,333 --> 00:08:11,066 Kevin: That's all you got? Tom: That's all I got. 191 00:08:11,133 --> 00:08:13,333 Richard: Don't over-describe. Tom: It's so easy. 192 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,166 It's so easy. I don't want to give it away. 193 00:08:15,233 --> 00:08:17,300 Jenn: Do you know what this is? It's my fresh air purse. 194 00:08:17,366 --> 00:08:19,566 So when they try to make me come back inside, 195 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:20,833 I need my fresh air. 196 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:22,500 Right? So I go outside... [ Pump hissing ] 197 00:08:22,566 --> 00:08:24,133 ...I capture whatever season -- 198 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,400 you can get Christmas tree season, 199 00:08:25,466 --> 00:08:26,900 you can get whatever season. 200 00:08:26,966 --> 00:08:28,233 And I get back inside and I'm like... 201 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:29,666 [ Air hissing ] ..."Oh, my God. Okay." 202 00:08:29,733 --> 00:08:31,400 Kevin: [Indistinct] would be so happy. So happy. 203 00:08:31,466 --> 00:08:33,966 So happy. Fresh air purse. 204 00:08:34,033 --> 00:08:37,966 Obviously you've not been to the gym as often as I have. 205 00:08:38,033 --> 00:08:39,700 Jenn: Oh, yeah? Kevin: Or ever. 206 00:08:39,766 --> 00:08:41,466 [ Laughter ] 207 00:08:41,533 --> 00:08:43,266 But every once in a while I miss a day 208 00:08:43,333 --> 00:08:45,166 and I feel bad because I don't get my pump on. 209 00:08:45,233 --> 00:08:47,100 Richard: Yeah. Kevin: And so I want to make... 210 00:08:47,166 --> 00:08:48,866 Well, you know, so I just want to make sure 211 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:50,700 that when I don't get my pump on, 212 00:08:50,766 --> 00:08:52,500 I've got a little extra something or whatever. 213 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:55,633 So on chest and pec day... 214 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:57,433 Richard: You look so good. 215 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:59,100 Jenn: It's the same. Kevin: I can just pop it...ahh. 216 00:08:59,166 --> 00:09:00,866 Richard: You look so good. Tom: Oh, my. 217 00:09:00,933 --> 00:09:01,933 Kevin: [ Austrian accent ] Did you know I went to 218 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,033 the gym today? Richard: No, don't. 219 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:04,133 We'd have to pay Arnold some money. 220 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,100 Kevin: I just worked my left pec. 221 00:09:06,166 --> 00:09:07,633 Tomorrow I work my right pec. Jenn: Little uneven. 222 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:09,466 Richard: Give me that. Give me that. 223 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:11,733 Kevin: [ Normal voice ] Take it. Richard: This is... 224 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,133 This is a fabulous multi-tool 225 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,133 for when you want to go to out to a live performance. 226 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,333 You go and you -- you sit down in the seat, 227 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,933 and the person in front of you is just too tall. 228 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,666 It's just like you're like this. Kevin: [ Laughs ] 229 00:09:23,733 --> 00:09:25,900 Richard: And you can actually -- It's not you. 230 00:09:25,966 --> 00:09:26,966 Tom: I can relate. Richard: It's not you. 231 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:28,166 It's not you! 232 00:09:28,233 --> 00:09:29,666 So you just pump yourself up. 233 00:09:29,733 --> 00:09:31,900 Tom: Oh, look at that. Yeah. Richard: It's a multi-tool. 234 00:09:31,966 --> 00:09:35,266 It also is a whoopee cushion so you can clear the room. 235 00:09:35,333 --> 00:09:38,600 Kevin: Back pump. Jenn: Multi-functional. 236 00:09:38,666 --> 00:09:40,066 Tom: You're gonna clear in the room anyway. 237 00:09:40,133 --> 00:09:41,933 Richard: No, I'm not. 238 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,266 Tom: Well, I have to admit that you are the closest. 239 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:45,466 Alright? Kevin: A whoopee cushion? 240 00:09:45,533 --> 00:09:46,900 Tom: So I'm going to pick this up. 241 00:09:46,966 --> 00:09:49,100 You slide that under there. Alright. 242 00:09:49,166 --> 00:09:52,166 Now this will actually lift up about 300 pounds. 243 00:09:52,233 --> 00:09:55,400 Kevin: Obviously. [ Laughter ] 244 00:09:55,466 --> 00:09:58,033 Tom: I use these a lot for -- for basically hanging 245 00:09:58,100 --> 00:09:59,900 doors and windows. 246 00:09:59,966 --> 00:10:02,433 You want to plumb it, I'll level it. I pump it up. 247 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:04,200 Look at the gap underneath. Richard: It's just a great tool. 248 00:10:04,266 --> 00:10:05,800 Kevin: [ Austrian accent ] Look at the pavers go up! 249 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:08,700 Richard: [ Austrian accent ] And then make it go down, Tommy. 250 00:10:08,766 --> 00:10:09,933 Tom: See, now that it's up there, 251 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,466 I put my shims under there. 252 00:10:11,533 --> 00:10:13,433 I'm talking about a door, and you're worried about getting... 253 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:15,333 Richard: Make it go down. Tom: Here we go. 254 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,566 Richard: [ Normal voice ] Awesome. 255 00:10:16,633 --> 00:10:18,000 Tom: Look at that. Richard: That's cool. 256 00:10:18,066 --> 00:10:21,100 ♪♪ 257 00:10:21,166 --> 00:10:22,933 Kevin: Mark, I know you're a brick head, 258 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,700 but you're also a Renaissance man. 259 00:10:24,766 --> 00:10:26,233 You like the history of brick. Mark: Of course. 260 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,666 Kevin: So, what'd you bring me? 261 00:10:27,733 --> 00:10:29,566 Mark: So I brought you a whole group of brick, Kevin. 262 00:10:29,633 --> 00:10:31,500 These brick right here are the oldest. 263 00:10:31,566 --> 00:10:34,366 They're handmade, or what we call a molded brick. 264 00:10:34,433 --> 00:10:35,700 But believe it or not, 265 00:10:35,766 --> 00:10:36,833 that brick is about a thousand years old. 266 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:38,133 Kevin: What? Mark: Yeah. 267 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,366 Kevin: How do you know that? Mark: Yeah. 268 00:10:39,433 --> 00:10:40,800 Well, there's actually a process. 269 00:10:40,866 --> 00:10:42,533 I send that brick to an engineer. 270 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,066 They'll extract the material from that brick, 271 00:10:45,133 --> 00:10:46,833 they'll analyze it, 272 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:48,733 and they can actually tell you what they used for the material, 273 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,366 and they can put it in a timeline, 274 00:10:50,433 --> 00:10:52,200 and they can put it into a place. 275 00:10:52,266 --> 00:10:54,900 Kevin: So some guy just packed that by hand into a mold. 276 00:10:54,966 --> 00:10:56,733 Mark: Right. Kevin: Same with these here? 277 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,833 Mark: Same with these. 278 00:10:57,900 --> 00:10:59,900 This particular brick is from the 1600s. 279 00:10:59,966 --> 00:11:02,366 It comes from a chimney from the oldest house in Connecticut. 280 00:11:02,433 --> 00:11:04,066 Kevin: So you can tell a handmade brick 281 00:11:04,133 --> 00:11:05,433 by just sort of the soft edges, 282 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:07,000 the rough face or whatever? Mark: Yeah. Absolutely. 283 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:08,333 Kevin: And this, something with crisp, 284 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,866 clean lines like this... Mark: Yep. 285 00:11:09,933 --> 00:11:11,500 Kevin: This is machine made. 286 00:11:11,566 --> 00:11:14,166 Mark: Yeah. That's manufactured. Kevin: And story with this? 287 00:11:14,233 --> 00:11:16,066 Mark: So one of the oldest brick yards 288 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:17,866 in this part of the country. Kevin: Alright. 289 00:11:17,933 --> 00:11:19,400 And so again machine made on these? 290 00:11:19,466 --> 00:11:21,033 Oh, wow. That's heavy. Mark: That's right. 291 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:23,366 Kevin: That's way heavier. Mark: So this brick, 292 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:24,900 if you had a couple bucks back in the day, 293 00:11:24,966 --> 00:11:26,933 this is what we call a waterstruck brick. 294 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,933 It's made in a mold that's wet. 295 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,600 So that's why they call it waterstruck. 296 00:11:30,666 --> 00:11:32,366 But they cook it for a lot longer 297 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:34,200 than they would cook these. 298 00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:35,700 Kevin: So the longer you cook it, what, the drier, 299 00:11:35,766 --> 00:11:37,200 harder it becomes? Mark: Exactly. 300 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:38,700 Kevin: And that's strength? Mark: Exactly. 301 00:11:38,766 --> 00:11:40,000 Kevin: Huh. Mark: Yep. 302 00:11:40,066 --> 00:11:41,233 Kevin: And so the formula, they're all clay. 303 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:42,666 Mark: Yes. Clay with a little bit of lime. 304 00:11:42,733 --> 00:11:44,000 Kevin: A little bit of lime. Mark: Yeah. 305 00:11:44,066 --> 00:11:45,900 Kevin: So are they just finding the clay deposits 306 00:11:45,966 --> 00:11:47,066 somewhere nearby and saying, 307 00:11:47,133 --> 00:11:48,433 "That's our brick material forever"? 308 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,133 Mark: So most clay is indigenous to the area 309 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,000 that you're going to find a brick. 310 00:11:53,066 --> 00:11:55,266 So this stuff here all came from the East Coast. 311 00:11:55,333 --> 00:11:57,000 Kevin: I presume this comes from somewhere else. 312 00:11:57,066 --> 00:11:59,100 Mark: Go out to Milwaukee and you're going to find 313 00:11:59,166 --> 00:12:02,033 that predominantly all the buildings are yellow 314 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:03,866 Kevin: Because their clay is. Mark: 'Cause the clay is yellow. 315 00:12:03,933 --> 00:12:06,800 Kevin: Alright. So, obviously I know this is brick, 316 00:12:06,866 --> 00:12:09,000 but at first glance I wouldn't necessarily think 317 00:12:09,066 --> 00:12:11,033 it was brick because it's like block or whatever. 318 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:12,433 Mark: Right. Kevin: What's the story 319 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:15,300 behind this design? Mark: So this brick right here 320 00:12:15,366 --> 00:12:16,800 is more for aesthetics than anything. 321 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:18,066 You know, you and I just did a... 322 00:12:18,133 --> 00:12:19,300 Kevin: Mid-century modern house. 323 00:12:19,366 --> 00:12:20,633 Mark: ...Mid-century modern house, 324 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:22,300 and that's the particular brick that they use -- 325 00:12:22,366 --> 00:12:24,833 the size, the width, and the length. 326 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:28,533 Kevin: And these cells here, are these, what, strength? 327 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Mark: So that's what we call a core. 328 00:12:30,466 --> 00:12:31,966 Kevin: Core. Mark: And I would take this 329 00:12:32,033 --> 00:12:33,900 brick, and, again, if it was on top of this one 330 00:12:33,966 --> 00:12:35,933 I would kind of wiggle it into place. 331 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,100 These cores would fill up and you'd get a much stronger bond. 332 00:12:38,166 --> 00:12:39,866 Kevin: Very nice. 333 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:41,966 And then over here, really crisp corners. 334 00:12:42,033 --> 00:12:44,033 Mark: Yes. Kevin: So machine made. 335 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:45,766 Mark: Machine made. Kevin: And very square. 336 00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:47,466 Mark: Exactly. This is what we're calling 337 00:12:47,533 --> 00:12:49,100 a modular brick. Kevin: Because? 338 00:12:49,166 --> 00:12:52,366 Mark: So the head joint is usually 3/8 of an inch. 339 00:12:52,433 --> 00:12:54,266 The brick is 7 and 5/8. 340 00:12:54,333 --> 00:12:56,966 So you combine the two you get an eight inch, 341 00:12:57,033 --> 00:12:59,733 and that way that helps us measure to windows, 342 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:00,933 doors, that type of thing. 343 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,833 Kevin: Okay. So, red, much darker. 344 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:06,533 Is this dye, or do they find a dark clay deposit? 345 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,466 Mark: No, that is dye. 346 00:13:08,533 --> 00:13:10,433 And again, that seems to be what the look is today. 347 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:12,400 Kevin: So they just made that choice right there. 348 00:13:12,466 --> 00:13:14,166 Very cool. 349 00:13:14,233 --> 00:13:15,466 And then you brought us some sort of a fossil 350 00:13:15,533 --> 00:13:16,966 here, which is not brick, but... 351 00:13:17,033 --> 00:13:18,700 Mark: So, actually, Kevin, that is a brick. 352 00:13:18,766 --> 00:13:19,833 Kevin: This is? Mark: It started out 353 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,633 as this size. Kevin: It was that? 354 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:23,233 Mark: It was that. So back in the day, 355 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:24,633 we had to import our brick. 356 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:26,900 And as these ships got closer to the harbor, 357 00:13:26,966 --> 00:13:29,933 they would take these brick as they used for ballast. 358 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,866 So they would raise the ship to go into the harbor, 359 00:13:31,933 --> 00:13:33,700 and they would just toss them overboard. 360 00:13:33,766 --> 00:13:35,066 Kevin: No kidding. Mark: Yep. 361 00:13:35,133 --> 00:13:36,433 Kevin: I thought they threw the Irishman overboard. 362 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:38,333 Mark: Well, we're here. Kevin: So, history lesson -- 363 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,266 1,000 years back to mid-century modern. 364 00:13:40,333 --> 00:13:42,666 If we looked into the future, what's coming your way? 365 00:13:42,733 --> 00:13:45,366 Mark: So now everything has changed, 366 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:48,300 and they're trying to make the outside of this wall 367 00:13:48,366 --> 00:13:49,633 have everything in it. 368 00:13:49,700 --> 00:13:51,600 Waterproofing, insulation. 369 00:13:51,666 --> 00:13:56,266 As you look behind us here, Kevin, we'll take this up. 370 00:13:56,333 --> 00:13:59,633 Kevin: Oh, my goodness. Mark: Yeah. So, Kevin, 371 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:01,500 what you see right here is what we call a thin brick. 372 00:14:01,566 --> 00:14:04,266 And all that is is a slice off of a regular brick. 373 00:14:04,333 --> 00:14:05,433 But you can see how thin it is. 374 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,033 Kevin: Just stuck to the Styrofoam. 375 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:09,433 Mark: Right. So here's a steel stud wall. 376 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:10,766 Then there's sheetrock. 377 00:14:10,833 --> 00:14:12,700 Then there's a waterproofer on it, 378 00:14:12,766 --> 00:14:14,900 then the insulation, and then the brick. 379 00:14:14,966 --> 00:14:17,933 Kevin: So not as much material, R-value, but it's horrible. 380 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,466 What do you do with this? Mark: Right. 381 00:14:19,533 --> 00:14:22,666 So to me, this becomes a tile and all you do is grout it just 382 00:14:22,733 --> 00:14:24,266 like you would a tile. Kevin: Oh, okay. 383 00:14:24,333 --> 00:14:26,133 So is this your future? Mark: It seems to be. 384 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,033 It seems to be. My whole business has changed. 385 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:30,866 It's not like it was back when I was a student 386 00:14:30,933 --> 00:14:33,966 and learning how to lay brick. It's all different now. 387 00:14:34,033 --> 00:14:35,400 Kevin: Well, like I said, a Renaissance man. 388 00:14:35,466 --> 00:14:36,900 Thanks for the history lesson. Mark: Alright, Kevin. 389 00:14:36,966 --> 00:14:40,200 ♪♪ 390 00:14:40,266 --> 00:14:41,500 Richard: You must be Phil. 391 00:14:41,566 --> 00:14:42,866 Phil: Hi, Richard. Richard: Nice to meet you. 392 00:14:42,933 --> 00:14:44,166 Phil: Thanks for coming. Richard: My great pleasure. 393 00:14:44,233 --> 00:14:45,166 Phil: I'm hoping you can help me. 394 00:14:45,233 --> 00:14:46,966 Richard: Alright. 395 00:14:47,033 --> 00:14:48,833 Phil: We recently painted the wainscoting in our dining room. 396 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:50,866 Richard: It looks great. 397 00:14:50,933 --> 00:14:52,566 Phil: And the color of the baseboard heating cover 398 00:14:52,633 --> 00:14:53,666 doesn't match. 399 00:14:53,733 --> 00:14:54,733 Richard: So you just ripped it apart? 400 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,233 Phil: Yes! Richard: [ Laughs ] 401 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:58,466 Phil: I actually looked for a video on replacing the cover. 402 00:14:58,533 --> 00:15:01,066 I looked on thisoldhouse.com and I didn't see anything, 403 00:15:01,133 --> 00:15:03,633 so I'm hoping you can help me out. 404 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:04,900 Richard: Well, the ones we did probably are 405 00:15:04,966 --> 00:15:07,333 still on VHS or beta. [ Laughter ] 406 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,233 Well, maybe we can do two things. 407 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:11,666 Maybe we can fix this and we can actually get a video 408 00:15:11,733 --> 00:15:13,700 to fill that void, right? Phil: That's great. 409 00:15:13,766 --> 00:15:15,900 Richard: Alright, so the covers are all discolored. 410 00:15:15,966 --> 00:15:19,000 Here's the bracket you took off. So we can fix this. 411 00:15:19,066 --> 00:15:20,566 Any other place in the building you want to think about? 412 00:15:20,633 --> 00:15:22,133 Phil: Actually, there is, in the basement. 413 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,100 Richard: Alright. Let's look. 414 00:15:24,166 --> 00:15:25,733 Phil: And it's a similar situation down here 415 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,533 in the basement, Richard. 416 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,500 So we recently repainted the walls 417 00:15:29,566 --> 00:15:32,600 and I replaced the outlet covers to match the trim board. 418 00:15:32,666 --> 00:15:36,266 And I'm not sure if painting the baseboard heating cover 419 00:15:36,333 --> 00:15:37,900 would be the right approach. 420 00:15:37,966 --> 00:15:39,966 Richard: You can paint it with an enamel paint, 421 00:15:40,033 --> 00:15:42,533 but it still is a 40-year-old product that's sort of dated. 422 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,266 So they make a cover now 423 00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:46,400 that you're going to go right over the top of this. 424 00:15:46,466 --> 00:15:48,866 So all we need to do is a couple of different measurements. 425 00:15:48,933 --> 00:15:51,400 One is the overall length. 426 00:15:51,466 --> 00:15:53,233 So the standard base will usually come in 427 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,666 one-foot increments from two feet to eight feet. 428 00:15:55,733 --> 00:15:58,033 So this is 16 feet, 429 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:00,266 so this is two eight-footers. 430 00:16:00,333 --> 00:16:02,166 And the other measurement that we need 431 00:16:02,233 --> 00:16:04,700 because there's all different heights of baseboard 432 00:16:04,766 --> 00:16:07,000 is the overall height. 433 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:09,800 So that is what, about six and a half? 434 00:16:09,866 --> 00:16:11,133 With these two measurements, 435 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,766 I think we know what we need for this one 436 00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:14,133 and I can get the stuff for upstairs. 437 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,233 Phil: It's great. Richard: I'll be back. 438 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:18,800 ♪♪ 439 00:16:18,866 --> 00:16:21,000 Richard: Now, there are a lot of different covers for baseboards. 440 00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:23,100 They come in metal. They come in plastic. 441 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:25,566 This one's pretty simple and pretty straightforward. 442 00:16:25,633 --> 00:16:28,033 It's plastic and it's a heat resistant plastic. 443 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:29,766 It's got these holes, and that's important 444 00:16:29,833 --> 00:16:32,500 to let the heat come out into the room. 445 00:16:32,566 --> 00:16:34,866 And it couldn't be simpler as far as its installation. 446 00:16:34,933 --> 00:16:37,300 You just snap it right over the existing stuff. 447 00:16:37,366 --> 00:16:38,566 Phil: These look great. 448 00:16:38,633 --> 00:16:39,866 Much easier than ripping out the old one. 449 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:41,033 Richard: Yeah, yeah. 450 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,100 These only come in six-footers, 451 00:16:43,166 --> 00:16:45,333 so we could cut them equal 452 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,266 so that the splice plates are balanced. 453 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:48,566 But are you going to have a couch here? 454 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,000 Phil: We actually will. Richard: Okay. 455 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:52,000 So we could actually put the two sixes 456 00:16:52,066 --> 00:16:54,333 and then just put the one cut piece down in the corner. 457 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,066 Phil: These are great. This is really a clean look. 458 00:16:58,133 --> 00:17:01,400 Richard: Okay. And then the splice plate will just go... 459 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,500 ...goes on like... 460 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:10,833 So, now the last piece, 461 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:13,566 we're going to cut to about, what's that? 462 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:16,966 47 we will still be covered by that end cap. 463 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:22,866 47. 464 00:17:25,066 --> 00:17:26,600 Why don't you throw your glasses...? 465 00:17:26,666 --> 00:17:28,233 Oh, you got them? Good. Thank you. 466 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:33,833 Phil: So what should we use to cut this? 467 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:35,466 Richard: Well, it's going to be covered by the end cap. 468 00:17:35,533 --> 00:17:36,933 Could be a handsaw. It's... 469 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,700 It could be a pair of snips, 470 00:17:38,766 --> 00:17:41,400 but this circular saw will be perfect for us. 471 00:17:41,466 --> 00:17:43,066 [ Saw whirring ] 472 00:17:43,133 --> 00:17:45,100 Okay, so we normally could just snap this on, 473 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:46,900 but we have a little bit more work to do. 474 00:17:46,966 --> 00:17:50,100 Slide this cover back. Now you'll see right here 475 00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:52,500 that the pipe continues through the wall 476 00:17:52,566 --> 00:17:54,366 to the rest of the heating system. 477 00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:57,266 And this end cap has a knockout. 478 00:17:57,333 --> 00:17:59,100 You see how it's perforated right there? 479 00:17:59,166 --> 00:18:01,133 So we can knock that out, allow for the pipe. 480 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,433 We also have to modify the height of the end cap. 481 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:05,700 This baseboard cover is made for a baseboard 482 00:18:05,766 --> 00:18:08,200 that's six and a half up to eight inches. 483 00:18:08,266 --> 00:18:10,166 So with this rug right here, 484 00:18:10,233 --> 00:18:12,966 we're going to have to also make this a little bit shorter. 485 00:18:13,033 --> 00:18:15,033 And there's perforation lines for that too. 486 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,366 And then finally of course they trimmed this 487 00:18:18,433 --> 00:18:19,933 with a little bit of wood trim. 488 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,366 So we're going to have to just cut that back 489 00:18:21,433 --> 00:18:23,166 a little bit, but not too bad. 490 00:18:23,233 --> 00:18:28,266 [ Saw whirring ] 491 00:18:34,666 --> 00:18:39,700 [ Saw whirring ] 492 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,066 There it is. 493 00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:55,233 Okay. Snap that down over. 494 00:19:05,966 --> 00:19:07,666 Look at that! Phil: That looks great. 495 00:19:07,733 --> 00:19:10,333 Richard: Just snap that one on. 496 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,966 Get that right down. Beauty. 497 00:19:13,033 --> 00:19:14,833 Looks pretty good, huh? Phil: It does. 498 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:16,266 Richard: Alright, so one call that I want to make 499 00:19:16,333 --> 00:19:17,600 is down here. 500 00:19:17,666 --> 00:19:20,266 Now this covers different height of baseboard, 501 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:22,200 and you've got this heavy pad and rug. 502 00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:23,833 So it means that the gap at the bottom 503 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,800 where the air goes into the baseboard 504 00:19:25,866 --> 00:19:27,133 is a little diminished, 505 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,033 so it could mean a little less heat output. 506 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,966 So if you ever change this rug, go to a lighter pad, okay? 507 00:19:32,033 --> 00:19:33,666 But I think you got plenty of baseboard. 508 00:19:33,733 --> 00:19:34,833 Alright. We are done down here. 509 00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:36,233 Let's go check out great dining room. 510 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,366 Let's finish that. Alright. 511 00:19:38,433 --> 00:19:40,500 Because the old baseboard is gone, 512 00:19:40,566 --> 00:19:42,466 the nice job that you did getting rid of it. 513 00:19:42,533 --> 00:19:44,100 Phil: Thanks. Richard: It invites us to look 514 00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:46,166 at a different system, one that doesn't rely 515 00:19:46,233 --> 00:19:48,633 on the old baseboard and has its own bracket system. 516 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:51,066 So you can see with a typical six-foot section, 517 00:19:51,133 --> 00:19:53,233 there are brackets that come with it, 518 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:56,566 and those are designed to mount onto the wall. 519 00:19:56,633 --> 00:20:00,000 And this will hold up the heating element... 520 00:20:00,066 --> 00:20:03,266 and then this will hold up the cover right here. 521 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:05,466 So I've made a little mock up right here. 522 00:20:05,533 --> 00:20:08,000 You can see that the heating element would sit right here 523 00:20:08,066 --> 00:20:09,933 and the heat would come out here. 524 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,133 But right on the back are these two panels, 525 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,866 and that's really only -- 526 00:20:13,933 --> 00:20:16,000 so if you look down you would see the white, 527 00:20:16,066 --> 00:20:17,766 not the wall color. 528 00:20:17,833 --> 00:20:20,900 And this is if you look from the side...matches, okay? 529 00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:24,700 So the key to this is to get these brackets mounted 530 00:20:24,766 --> 00:20:27,933 onto the wall at a place where we've got good structure. 531 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000 So I want you to grab that stud finder and just double check. 532 00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:32,966 I mean, it should be where the old brackets were. 533 00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:36,133 Should be fine. Phil: Yeah. 534 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,633 Richard: Right there. We'll get that all marked. 535 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:40,133 Phil: Beauty. 536 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,833 Richard: The best way to get them in 537 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,100 is there's always a little play in the middle 538 00:20:43,166 --> 00:20:44,900 I'll pass this down to you. 539 00:20:49,433 --> 00:20:51,166 We want this to be level, obviously, 540 00:20:51,233 --> 00:20:53,933 but we can assume that this floor is level. 541 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 And now we just want to secure these. 542 00:20:57,066 --> 00:20:58,766 You don't want to over tighten these. 543 00:20:58,833 --> 00:21:01,066 You want enough for the cover to fit in there, 544 00:21:01,133 --> 00:21:03,700 and you don't want to break the bracket. 545 00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:06,000 There you go. Go. 546 00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:09,100 [ Screw gun whirring ] 547 00:21:09,166 --> 00:21:10,366 Good. 548 00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:12,166 As copper finned baseboard heats up, 549 00:21:12,233 --> 00:21:14,766 it wants to expand longitudinally. 550 00:21:14,833 --> 00:21:17,266 So the manufacturer makes these releases, 551 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,566 these plastic pieces that are designed to stick 552 00:21:19,633 --> 00:21:23,366 onto the element and go against the brackets. 553 00:21:23,433 --> 00:21:25,300 So as it goes this way, 554 00:21:25,366 --> 00:21:26,933 it might not make a crinkling noise on the bracket. 555 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Glad you didn't throw them out. 556 00:21:28,866 --> 00:21:36,333 ♪♪ 557 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,600 That end cap's gonna go right in there tucked in nicely. 558 00:21:40,666 --> 00:21:43,900 So the top cover plate goes onto the bracket. 559 00:21:43,966 --> 00:21:48,233 It wants to have the curve facing out and up, 560 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,800 so that will cover these brackets. 561 00:21:50,866 --> 00:21:52,500 And the same thing on the bottom. 562 00:21:52,566 --> 00:21:54,933 And then push it. [ Snap ] 563 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,533 There it is. Alright. 564 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,433 Now we have a cover plate. 565 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:07,000 ♪♪ 566 00:22:07,066 --> 00:22:08,233 There it is. 567 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:15,266 ♪♪ 568 00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:16,633 So what do you think? 569 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,066 Phil: I think this looks great. Thank you, Richard. 570 00:22:18,133 --> 00:22:19,200 Richard: Well, here in this house 571 00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:21,333 we found two different solutions -- 572 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,866 similar but great ones to cover that baseboard. 573 00:22:23,933 --> 00:22:25,300 Phil: I agree. And now there's a video. 574 00:22:25,366 --> 00:22:26,700 Richard: That's right. Thanks to you. 575 00:22:26,766 --> 00:22:29,300 And if you find there are missing videos in your life 576 00:22:29,366 --> 00:22:31,166 that you need to have us do, 577 00:22:31,233 --> 00:22:33,366 don't hesitate to call, to write, or send smoke signals. 578 00:22:33,433 --> 00:22:35,133 Don't send them to me, but send them to us. 579 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,100 Until next time, I'm Richard Trethewey 580 00:22:37,166 --> 00:22:38,733 for "Ask This Old House." 581 00:22:41,833 --> 00:22:44,066 Kevin: Next time on "Ask This Old House"... 582 00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:46,566 Jenn returns to her roots in Florida 583 00:22:46,633 --> 00:22:50,033 to help a homeowner plant fruit trees. 584 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:54,700 Jenn: Perfect. So this is one of the key limes. 585 00:22:54,766 --> 00:22:58,733 Kevin: Then Ross shows some new trends in smart lighting... 586 00:23:00,533 --> 00:23:02,533 ...and Nathan shares a tool 587 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,066 that's given his roofing game a lift. 588 00:23:06,566 --> 00:23:09,500 All that on "Ask This Old House."