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Kevin: On "Ask This Old House,"

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our experts travel
across the country

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to answer questions
about your house.

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Today, Jenn helps a homeowner

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who is struggling
to manage her gutter runoff.

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Jenn: So see all the water
coming out of this downspout?

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This is going to have a place
to go.

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Kevin: Then we meet a carpenter

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who found his calling
teaching the next generation.

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And Heath replaces a ceiling fan
that lacks the proper support.

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Heath: It's all designed
to hold the weight

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and the vibration of a fan.

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Kevin: Coming up next
on "Ask This Old House."

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Jenn: Hi, Lauren.
Lauren: Hey, Jenn.

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Thanks for coming by.
Jenn: Thanks for writing in.

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You want to tell me about

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the storm water situation
going on here?

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Lauren:
Yeah. So we have two downspouts
on this side of the house.

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One right here, and then one
all the way down the other end.

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And what we're finding is
that we're getting water

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in the basement
and also getting pools of water

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here on the sidewalk that
are freezing over in the winter,

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so we're pretty concerned
about that as a liability.

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Jenn:
Yeah, that's a huge liability.

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You know, it's a very
busy street,

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two sidewalks coming together.

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So when I was looking at
your pictures, originally

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I was thinking
that we take this downspout

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and that downspout
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and bring it to a dry well
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But then I thought
of all the labor digging up all

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of these boxwoods.

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I didn't want to disturb
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So over here,
I think we'll just put in a pipe

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and a pop-up emitter
to diffuse into the grass.

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And then coming this way,
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since this is definitely
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we'll take this downspout, put a
little mini dry well right here

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and then it'll mitigate
the water,

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send it back into the ground.

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What do you think?
Lauren: Sounds great.

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Jenn: Alright.
So I'm going to grab some tools.

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We might have
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today but maybe not.

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Lauren: Sounds good.
Thanks, Jenn.

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Jenn: Cool. Okay.

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This is the setup that I have
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I'm going to walk you
through it, okay?

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Lauren: Great.

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Jenn: Over here,
Your downspout.

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It doesn't need
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So this elbow
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to this straight out
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Right? We'll get rid of that.
Take this elbow off.

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Don't need it anymore.
This is the downspout connector.

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It's going to fit.
It's a four-inch.

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Slide it right up here.

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So then this connector will fit
to this piece right here.

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And then this will go into
this elbow.

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Right? So this setup
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You won't see it from here down.
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Jenn: So the elbow connects to
this pipe, right?

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So this is a schedule
40 solid PVC pipe

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that will insert into one
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But I want to wait
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until we get it situated
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Lauren: Okay.
Jenn: Some people use

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perforated pipe, which lets
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but I wanted to get away from
the house directly to this pit.

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Lauren: Great.
Jenn: This is the catch basin.

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And this catch basin is going
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And the dry well basically is
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We're going to put about
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and the manufacturer calls out
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But I'm just going to add
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because I think it's
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So I'm going to do that.
Here's the lid.

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Goes on here. Right?
This is the drain inlet.

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So any surface water
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It's also you could take
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and you could clean it out,
so it's a good clean-out.

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This sits right on top after you
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And then crushed stone
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to just about here.

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We're going to pop
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this middle section.

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So water will diffuse out,
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and then we'll put it
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And you won't even see it.

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Lauren:
Sounds like a great solution.

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Jenn: Great. So let me show you
what we have for the back.

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Lauren: Okay.

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Jenn: Okay. So back here,
much more simplified, right?

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We're going to do
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with the downspout connector
and everything, solid pipe

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out to this pop-up emitter.
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So this is going to pitch
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pitch meaning like it's going to
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to get the water over here.

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This is called a pop-up emitter.

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So what it does, there's
a spring on the inside.

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So the force of the water is
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It's going to lift it up

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and the water is
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So this will be situated here.

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This will be at the level
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And then we'll dig, you know,
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and put gravel underneath just
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and clogged in this area.

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It will help it disperse.
Lauren: Great.

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Jenn: Okay?

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Let's go get started up front.

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Lauren: Sounds good.

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Jenn: So, this is the area
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the dry well should be dug.
Lauren: Okay.

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Jenn: Before you put any shovel
on the ground, we call dig safe.

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Everything's been marked.

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The gas line is over there,
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Uh, next,
what we do is measure this.

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Right? So this is
how wide we want the hole.

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I want it to be 36 inches,

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so I want a overhang of
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and we'll fill that
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Lauren: Okay.
Jenn: And then we want to

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measure to the top of this.

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Tell me what you see
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Lauren:
Let's see, that plus the gravel
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Jenn: Perfect.
So when we dig in,

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we're going to dig
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Lauren: Okay.
Jenn: Here's the 36.

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I'm going to make a mark
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Lauren: Okay.

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Jenn: Alright.
So let's just dig a square.

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We'll try to save the sod
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Lauren: Sounds good.

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Jenn: Kick your foot underneath
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Perfect. Look at you.
Lauren: Got it.

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Jenn: You're a natural.
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Alright, so now
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is attached to the pipe.

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We just have to put in
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Lauren: Alright.

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Jenn: Perfect. Okay.
The catch basin is in.

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with 3/4-inch crushed
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Lauren: Okay.
Jenn: Alright. So then we'll get

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the lid and then we'll wrap
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I already cut a hole.

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Lauren: And this is so debris
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Jenn: Yeah.
So soil doesn't get in here.

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Lauren: Awesome.
Jenn: Before the rain comes,

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I think we should get started
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What we're going to do
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from this downspout,

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go about five inches
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we'll dig like a
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for crushed stone
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Lauren: Okay, great.

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Jenn: Alright. Well, I'm glad we
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dug before it started
torrential pouring.

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Lauren: Yep.
Jenn: But now we can see
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Lauren: Exactly.
Jenn: So see all the water

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coming out of this downspout?

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This is going to have a place
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Okay? So what I'm going to do...

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So we could adjust it to
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Do you want to grab
the big pipe?

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Lauren: Yep.

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Jenn: Okay. That's good.
Lauren: Okay.

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Jenn: So I'm just gonna slip
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Alright, so these are
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I'm gonna have
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and then I'm gonna put
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Lauren: Okay.

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Jenn: That should be
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Lauren: Okay.
Jenn: Then you can let it rest.

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Lauren: Great.

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Jenn: So let's do the same
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Lauren: Okay.

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Jenn: Tell me when to stop.
Lauren: That looks good.

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Jenn: Alright, Lauren,
I just want to see it has

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a ever so slight pitch.

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By eye, it looked good.

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And by level, it looks good.

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So let's backfill this baby.

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So it doesn't look
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it's gonna all knit
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and it'll be just like
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Lauren: [ Chuckles ] Perfect.

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Jenn: So let's go finish up
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and then we'll see
how it all goes.

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Lauren: Sounds good.

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Jenn: Feel that sun?
So psyched the rain stopped.

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Lauren: Yeah, it was raining
pretty hard there for a while.

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Jenn: It was brutal. Alright.

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It looks like we just need
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Yeah?
Lauren: Okay.

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Yeah.
Jenn: And then let's
just backfill.

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Alright,
now everything's backfilled.

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Let's just clean up and, uh, put
a little grass seed down.

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Lauren: Alright. Almost done.
Jenn: Cool.

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Alright, Lauren,
I think this looks pretty good.

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Lauren: Awesome. Thank you
so much, Jenn.

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Jenn: Yeah, that was great.

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I think this is going to be
a big accomplishment.

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Just keep your seed watered
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and then you should be good
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Lauren: Awesome. Thank you.
Jenn: Alright.

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That's your present.
Lauren: Bye.

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Kevin: We love celebrating
talented tradespeople

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who are thriving
in their fields.

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Today, we highlight
a lead carpenter

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who embodies not only
the spirit of craftsmanship,

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but also mentorship.

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Lasana: Hi, my name is Lasana
Harper, and I'm a lead carpenter

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and I work for
Kevin Cradock Builders.

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Kevin C: Lasana is a great guy.

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He's really passionate
and engaged in carpentry,

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and as a carpenter myself,
I really connect with that.

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He wants to learn.
He's always doing research,

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trying to figure out
how to do a better job for his,

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for his personal growth,

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but also
to contribute to the company.

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He's a great guy. He's an asset.

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Lasana: Everyone has their
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why they came into the trades.

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And so I think it's
important for, you know,

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everyone around
to recognize that,

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you know,
carpenters are your peers.

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We are your family and friends.

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So a friend of mine, Alec,
introduced me to his father,

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who gave me a job working
on his properties.

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I worked for him
for maybe two years.

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And I remember after
the first year,

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he came to me one day and said,
"Do you like this stuff?"

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And I was like, "Yeah, I do."

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He said, "You know, well,
if you like this stuff,

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feel free to stick on
and learn as much as you can."

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And I pretty much did just that.

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Kevin C.: And when I first got
into this business,

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I didn't really see
like a clear path,

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but I had to figure it
out on my own.

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So that's one reason
we really want to engage

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young people and bring them into
the company

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and kind of give them
a clear path to success.

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Like you're finally
a carpenter now.

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So we have a four-stage program.

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It takes about four years.

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So a big, big mission of ours
in the apprentice program

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is really to connect
the young people in Boston

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to the amazing work
that's happening here.

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Eric: My name is Eric Coughlin,

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and I'm a level three
apprentice woodworker here

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at Kevin Cradock Builders.

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Lasana:
So, I'm a lead carpenter.

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So a typical day for me
would be getting on-site,

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opening the job up for everyone.

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Maybe someone needs something
specific done for the day

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and so I'll help, like, move
people around to make sure that,

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you know, we kind of execute

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the goal for the day
or the week.

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And, you know, especially
when we have apprentices,

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a lot of the time, I'm,
you know, standing behind them,

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not necessarily
like critiquing their work,

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but just being around
for them to have questions.

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And, you know,
I try to let them, you know,

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kind of do their own thing
and not like take it from them

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and do it physically
by showing them,

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but more so just letting
them ask the questions

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and then letting them do it.

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Eric: It's been so great
to be surrounded

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by all this high-quality work
that we do here,

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and I'm so thankful
to be around,

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you know,
so much knowledge and eagerness

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to share with the next
generation of woodworkers.

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Lasana: I try to give them
that same patience

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that I wanted
when I was an apprentice,

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and especially, like, giving
everyone a chance to show Kevin

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that, you know,
that they are really into this

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and they are trying to learn
and trying to improve.

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And so I just try to give
everyone that opportunity.

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Kevin C.: And to me, that's
really what it's all about.

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You know, teaching
and learning and learning

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while teaching and
being an example to say like,

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if you're into something,
you're passionate about it,

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you care so much,
you can eventually do anything.

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You can run a company, you
can run a division of a company,

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you can start a small business,
you can do all this.

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So Lasana is
really an example of, like,

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really the possibility

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of what you can do or what you
can become if you're passionate

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and you care about it.

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Lasana: I think it's very
important for any trade

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to get apprentices
and give new people a chance.

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Eric:
Even though you're going to be
at the bottom of the totem pole

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and learning something
brand-new,

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it's going to really
broaden your horizons

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and just give you so much more.

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Lasana: I would tell people,

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you know, look around
your neighborhood.

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There's work being done, and you
can go door knocking and say,

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"Hey, do you guys need help?"

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If you want it,
just go after it.

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A lot of thanks to my friend for
even referring me to his father,

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and then his father as well,
for just giving me a chance.

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I take what they taught me,

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and I kind of carry it
on my shoulders to this day.

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Kevin: If you've got
a contractor in your area

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who you think is worth
celebrating,

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we'd love to hear about them.

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Write in and let us know.

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Heath: Hi, Becca?
Becca: Hi. How are you?

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Heath: Nice to meet you.
Becca: Nice to meet you.

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Heath: This is a great spot.
Becca: Thank you. Thank you.

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Yeah. So the house was built in
about 1900.

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Heath: Okay.
Becca: But there's an addition

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that was put on in
about the '80s.

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Heath: You can kind of see it.
I'm guessing that was

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the original portion of
the house up here

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with that roof line and then
the addition to the left?

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Becca: Absolutely.
Heath: And you can kind of tell

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from the poured foundation on
this side is a little bit newer.

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Becca: Yes.
Heath: So you wrote in about

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a project in the addition?
Becca: Yes.

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So we've got a ceiling fan
that we would love to replace

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in our primary bedroom.
Heath: Perfect.

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Let's go take a look.
Becca: Awesome.

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So, this is the fan
I was talking about.

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We've done a lot
of work in the house,

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but definitely want to replace
the fan.

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Heath: Got it. Uh, yeah.

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Everything else in the room
looks great.

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Freshly painted.

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The furniture looks great,
the rug.

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But the fan is kind of starting
to show its age, huh?

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Becca: Definitely.
Heath: Okay.

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You said you did kind of like
the look of it, though.

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So something similar,
but maybe a little more modern?

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Becca: Absolutely.
We do like the look of it.

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We don't have AC in the house,
so we do use the fan.

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Heath: So you really need
the fan to move a lot of air

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to keep you comfortable
in the summertime.

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Becca: Yes.
Heath: Alright,
that's not too bad.

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So let me grab some tools, take
a look at a couple of things,

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and then we'll go over
our options.

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Becca: Sounds great.
Heath: Alright.

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♪♪

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♪♪

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Alright, so I found some stuff
that we can leave in place

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and a couple of things
that we want to change.

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So the first thing we found
that we're gonna leave in place

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is we took apart the switch
over here

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to see what the wiring was like.

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Now, since you said
the remodel was done

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or the addition about mid '80s,

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we found what we thought
we'd find.

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We found the newer generation
of NM cable,

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which is perfectly fine to leave
as it is.

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So we can put that back,
reuse that cable.

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We don't have to touch a thing.
Becca: Great.

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Heath: The second thing
I wanted to check

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was the height of the ceiling.

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So the ceilings are
a little bit low.

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We have 94 inches from
the ceiling to the floor.

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Our code dictates that we
have to have 84 inches minimum

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from the floor
to the fan blades themselves,

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so that gives us a 10-inch
space to fit the fan blades in.

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Now, a fan like this, this type
of hugger fits perfectly fine.

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These blades are great,

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and there are plenty
of other fans

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that'll still fit
within that space,

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but it does limit
our selection a little bit.

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So picking a fan,
we can find one.

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We just need to be careful about
what we pick.

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Becca: Okay.
Heath: The third thing
I checked was

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when I took the canopy
down to look up inside

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and see what we had for a box.

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I didn't expect to find a fan
box up there, and we didn't.

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What we found was
this bar box up there.

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So you have the joist going
this way,

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a bar that spans across
and is screwed in on both sides.

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And what happens is a box
like this slides up in

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and then screws
in just with this one screw

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into the middle of that.

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Now, it's perfectly fine
for a light fixture.

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It's not sufficient
to hold the weight of a fan.

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So we want to put in something
like this.

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You can see it's much beefier.
So, the bar is bigger.

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This will spread out,
go between the joists,

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get a little pressure,
the teeth will bite in

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and hold the weight of the fan.

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The box is beefier.

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Where the screws attach is
bigger, the screws are bigger.

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It's all designed
to hold the weight

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and the vibration of a fan.

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So we're going to go ahead
and tackle that.

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A lot of times we do that
from the bottom.

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We take the old one out,
try to get to the screws,

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if we could unscrew that
and then slide this up

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and in as an old work
and put this into place.

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Two things though -- It's
going to be a little difficult

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to reach those screws,

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so I think it'll be easier
from the attic

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where you do have attic access.

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And the second thing is you had
some insulation done, right?

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Becca:
Yeah, we had some blown-in.

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Heath:
Which is great for energy.

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But my other concern would be is

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if I did try to do that from the
bottom and take this box out,

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the blown insulation
is just going to come pouring

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out like snow, and I
don't want to have that happen.

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So I think the best bet is
to go up there,

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sweep this away, unscrew this,
slide this into place,

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and then we can do the fun part
of putting the fan up.

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What do you think?
Becca: Sounds great.

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Heath: Alright.

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Alright, Becca,
let's start taking this down.

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We're going to start
with the light bulbs

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and then get the globes
out of the way.

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Becca: Alright.

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Heath: Perfect. I'll take that.

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♪♪

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Alright. Now we'll take
the light kit right off.

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So we should have three
or four screws on the side.

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You can see those.

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♪♪

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Almost there. There you go.

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Now, there's no need to worry.
You're perfectly safe.

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The breaker is off.
Nothing can happen.

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Whenever we're disconnecting,

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we always want to take
the hot lead,

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the black, off first,
white second, ground third.

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Then when we reconnect,
the same order in reverse,

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ground first,
white or neutral second,

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and then finally, the hot blast.

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That's perfect.

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You're going to have to lift
this motor up

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and off of this bracket now.

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Great.

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♪♪

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Hey, Becca, take a look at
what we found.

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Becca: Whoa.
Heath: Right there.

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I know it's a little hard
to tell,

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but you see the two
nail holes right here?

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Becca: Yeah.
Heath: So the bar box

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that we had up here before

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actually went
from strapping to strapping,

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not joist to joist
like we thought it did.

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Becca: Oh, goodness.
Heath: So they had that nailed

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into the strapping on
both sides.

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And the good thing
that was actually keeping it

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from twisting with the fan

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was that the box was resting
against the side of the joist.

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Obviously still not strong
enough to hold the fan.

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So we wanted to take this out
like we did.

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The one drawback we have now,

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though, is the fan brace
we were planning on installing

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that was going to go from here
to here,

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this hole is a little
too tight to this joist,

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so by the time the foot of the
fan brace rests up against here,

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the box would be off of here,
another 3/4 inch,

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and we'd have to cut
a little more of the drywall

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on the ceiling out to fit that,

481
00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:40,233
and then we'd have to patch
it afterwards.

482
00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:41,733
I really don't want
to have to do that to you,

483
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,766
and I don't think we have to.

484
00:19:43,833 --> 00:19:47,100
So what we can do is
I can take a piece of 2x6

485
00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:49,866
and go from joist to joist,
screw it in,

486
00:19:49,933 --> 00:19:51,933
make sure it's nice and rugged,

487
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,600
and then we can install a fan
rated octagon from the bottom,

488
00:19:54,666 --> 00:19:57,766
screw that right into the joist,
keep the original hole,

489
00:19:57,833 --> 00:19:59,766
not do any patching,
and I think we'll be good.

490
00:19:59,833 --> 00:20:01,066
What do you think?
Becca: Sounds great.

491
00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:03,066
Heath: Alright, let's do it.

492
00:20:03,133 --> 00:20:04,800
Since we're adding
new structure,

493
00:20:04,866 --> 00:20:06,700
I could secure the 2x6
to the bay

494
00:20:06,766 --> 00:20:09,300
by screwing through
the outside of the two joists.

495
00:20:09,366 --> 00:20:12,900
This will give us the support we
need to properly secure the fan.

496
00:20:12,966 --> 00:20:15,200
Alright,
so our blocks' up in the attic.

497
00:20:15,266 --> 00:20:16,866
The insulation is all back
in place.

498
00:20:18,433 --> 00:20:20,333
Insulation left.
Becca: [ Laughs ]

499
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,766
Heath:
First, I'll mark the screw holes
for mounting the new box.

500
00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:26,933
Okay, so I'm going to go
there.

501
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,700
Next, in order
to prevent damaging

502
00:20:28,766 --> 00:20:30,166
the threaded holes in this box

503
00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:32,600
and to keep the box from pushing
off of this piece of wood,

504
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:35,000
I want to pre-drill holes
in the wood blocks

505
00:20:35,066 --> 00:20:37,800
so that these machine screws
have a place to rest.

506
00:20:37,866 --> 00:20:39,933
I'll remove one of the knockouts
under the clamp

507
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,733
so I can thread the wires
back into the box

508
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,266
and then clamp it down.

509
00:20:46,233 --> 00:20:48,133
Now I grab our wire.

510
00:20:50,966 --> 00:20:53,000
I want to get that started
in our box.

511
00:20:53,066 --> 00:20:55,000
And then screw that
to the ceiling.

512
00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:56,000
Becca: Great.

513
00:20:56,066 --> 00:21:02,400
♪♪

514
00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:09,800
♪♪

515
00:21:09,866 --> 00:21:11,366
Heath: Alright.
So next we're going to go ahead

516
00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:14,033
and wire this up.

517
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,433
And it has a hook up here
for us to hook this

518
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,066
and hold it in place.

519
00:21:18,133 --> 00:21:19,766
So we don't need
multiple sets of hands

520
00:21:19,833 --> 00:21:21,466
so we can go ahead and wire it.

521
00:21:21,533 --> 00:21:23,300
And as you can see it
already comes

522
00:21:23,366 --> 00:21:24,966
with this module attached to it.

523
00:21:25,033 --> 00:21:26,200
This is
the remote control module.

524
00:21:26,266 --> 00:21:27,766
It's already built in.

525
00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:29,366
That's designed to stay
up in the canopy.

526
00:21:29,433 --> 00:21:30,833
So we'll just wire this

527
00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:31,833
and then you control
it right from the remote.

528
00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:33,333
Becca: Awesome.

529
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,000
Heath: To wire the new fan,
we're simply going to repeat

530
00:21:35,066 --> 00:21:36,966
the same process we did earlier
when we took it down.

531
00:21:37,033 --> 00:21:38,533
But we're going to do it
in reverse.

532
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,166
Ground to ground,
white to white,

533
00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:41,633
and then finally black to black.

534
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,133
Finally, we can assemble
the remaining parts of the fan

535
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,466
and turn the power back on.

536
00:21:47,533 --> 00:21:51,200
♪♪

537
00:21:51,266 --> 00:21:53,600
Alright. And that just has
a couple little dimples

538
00:21:53,666 --> 00:21:56,233
on the inside here.

539
00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:58,166
And just like that,
one ceiling fan.

540
00:21:58,233 --> 00:21:59,333
Becca: Looks great.

541
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,766
Heath: Alright, Becca,
so the power's back on.

542
00:22:03,833 --> 00:22:05,733
This unit comes with a remote
like we were talking about.

543
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,733
We saw the module is up
in the canopy,

544
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,400
and that module came from
the factory with this remote,

545
00:22:09,466 --> 00:22:11,500
so this will control it.
It's already been paired,

546
00:22:11,566 --> 00:22:13,266
and there are also a lot
of other nice features

547
00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,600
that come with this.
It's also smart-home-friendly.

548
00:22:15,666 --> 00:22:17,133
So if you have
a voice-controlled system,

549
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,266
Wi-Fi, anything like that,
it can tie into it pretty easily

550
00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:20,700
and let you control
the fan that way.

551
00:22:20,766 --> 00:22:22,300
Becca: Awesome. We do.
So this will be great.

552
00:22:22,366 --> 00:22:24,866
Heath: Perfect. So one remote.
Give it a shot.

553
00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:27,200
There's our light.

554
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,400
And our fan.

555
00:22:30,233 --> 00:22:31,500
Becca: It looks great.
Heath: That's nice.

556
00:22:31,566 --> 00:22:32,966
I'm happy with it.
Are you happy with it?

557
00:22:33,033 --> 00:22:34,366
Becca: I love it.
Thank you so much.

558
00:22:34,433 --> 00:22:35,600
Heath:
Great. I think it looks great.

559
00:22:35,666 --> 00:22:36,566
Becca: Thank you.
Heath: See you later.

560
00:22:36,633 --> 00:22:40,566
♪♪

561
00:22:41,833 --> 00:22:44,166
Kevin: Next time on
"Ask This Old House,"

562
00:22:44,233 --> 00:22:48,166
I travel to Miami to help
install natural wallpaper.

563
00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:50,400
Is it the pop you wanted?
Woman: The pop,

564
00:22:50,466 --> 00:22:52,933
the color, everything.
I love it.

565
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,600
Kevin: Then Lee shows us the
various types of sprinkler heads

566
00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:59,766
and how to use them
in your landscape design.

567
00:22:59,833 --> 00:23:01,666
That's the sound of summer
right there.

568
00:23:01,733 --> 00:23:03,533
Lee: It is.
Kevin: The sound at my house.

569
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,600
And Richard helps
a homeowner install a sump pump.

570
00:23:07,666 --> 00:23:10,500
All that on
"Ask This Old House."