1 00:00:00,700 --> 00:00:05,266 ♪♪ 2 00:00:05,333 --> 00:00:06,700 Kevin: On "Ask This Old House," 3 00:00:06,766 --> 00:00:09,300 our experts travel across the country 4 00:00:09,366 --> 00:00:12,033 to answer questions about your house. 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:18,400 ♪♪ 6 00:00:18,466 --> 00:00:22,800 Today, do you find the winter air in your home too dry? 7 00:00:22,866 --> 00:00:25,800 Ross will show us a solution to this problem. 8 00:00:27,166 --> 00:00:29,366 Then Mauro shows us tips 9 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:31,933 that will save time painting shutters. 10 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:37,600 And Tommy shows us how to build a teak side table. 11 00:00:41,366 --> 00:00:44,433 All that on "Ask This Old House." 12 00:00:46,933 --> 00:00:54,500 ♪♪ 13 00:00:56,266 --> 00:00:57,700 Ross: Hey, Jeff. Jeff: Hi, Ross. How are you? 14 00:00:57,766 --> 00:00:59,800 Ross: How's it going? Jeff: Good. Good to see you. 15 00:01:03,133 --> 00:01:05,133 Ross: Well, Jeff, what a space. This is awesome. 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,766 Jeff: Great. Thank you. 17 00:01:06,833 --> 00:01:08,866 We've been here for about 15 years. 18 00:01:08,933 --> 00:01:11,433 We built the house, and the house has been great. 19 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:13,366 Love it. One issue we do find, 20 00:01:13,433 --> 00:01:15,733 though, however, is that, in the winter months, 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,133 it seems to get really dry. 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,166 Ross: Yeah. Well, cold air is dry air, 23 00:01:19,233 --> 00:01:21,966 so it's notorious in cold climates, where we live, 24 00:01:22,033 --> 00:01:23,800 where the house has air leakage, right? 25 00:01:23,866 --> 00:01:26,166 And so when you heat that air in this house, it's leaving. 26 00:01:26,233 --> 00:01:27,433 It's trying to get out through the roof. 27 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:30,133 And when it's happening, cold air is coming in 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,133 to try to replace that air that's being lost. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,400 Then you run bath fans and kitchen exhaust fans 30 00:01:34,466 --> 00:01:37,833 and things like that, you induce more infiltration. 31 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:39,300 So that cold air is dry, 32 00:01:39,366 --> 00:01:40,866 and that's going to reduce the humidity in this space. 33 00:01:40,933 --> 00:01:42,300 You said you had measured the humidity? 34 00:01:42,366 --> 00:01:43,733 What are you at right now? Jeff: Yeah. 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,400 We got a sensor just to check out various levels of 36 00:01:47,466 --> 00:01:50,600 interior air quality, and humidity is one of them. 37 00:01:50,666 --> 00:01:52,100 And we noticed that in the teens 38 00:01:52,166 --> 00:01:53,266 is where we're seeing the humidity level in the winter. 39 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:54,800 Ross: Wow. Okay. 40 00:01:54,866 --> 00:01:57,966 So, we want to keep the house between 30% and 60% year round. 41 00:01:58,033 --> 00:02:00,266 So, the wintertime, we're really shooting for 30% to 40%. 42 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:01,466 So if you're in the high teens, 43 00:02:01,533 --> 00:02:02,466 that's definitely on the low side. 44 00:02:02,533 --> 00:02:03,600 So that's what's causing the, 45 00:02:03,666 --> 00:02:05,933 you know, static cling, dry skin. 46 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,466 Jeff: Sure. Ross: That's for sure. 47 00:02:07,533 --> 00:02:10,400 So, what we'd like to do is add a steam humidification system. 48 00:02:10,466 --> 00:02:11,900 If we can add that to the ductwork, 49 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:14,666 then we can actually add moisture to the house 50 00:02:14,733 --> 00:02:17,033 to keep it in that 30%-to-40% range. 51 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:18,533 So, it starts with taking a look at the heating system. 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,900 Jeff: Sure. Makes sense. Ross: Yeah. 53 00:02:19,966 --> 00:02:20,800 Jeff: Let's go take a look. Ross: Let's take a look. 54 00:02:20,866 --> 00:02:22,133 Jeff: Cool. 55 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,666 ♪♪ 56 00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:30,066 Ross: It's nice to be working in a nice high-height ceiling. 57 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:31,833 Nice and clean down here. This looks great. 58 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:33,100 Jeff: Absolutely. This is our system, Ross. 59 00:02:33,166 --> 00:02:34,366 Ross: Cool. Alright. 60 00:02:34,433 --> 00:02:36,266 So, I can see the dehumidifier over here, 61 00:02:36,333 --> 00:02:38,200 water heater power-vented outside, 62 00:02:38,266 --> 00:02:40,033 and we got our gas furnace right there. 63 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,400 All looks good. 64 00:02:41,466 --> 00:02:42,633 So, when I'm thinking about a steam humidifier, 65 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:43,766 I'm looking for a couple things. 66 00:02:43,833 --> 00:02:45,533 Number one, a water supply, okay? 67 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,033 So, the first thing here, 68 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:48,633 we have a water line coming right to the water heater, 69 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:51,066 so any steam humidifier is gonna be fine to get water to it. 70 00:02:51,133 --> 00:02:54,100 Second thing is drainage. So, we have a tube right here. 71 00:02:54,166 --> 00:02:55,600 This is the condensate for the dehumidifier 72 00:02:55,666 --> 00:02:57,066 and for the gas furnace. 73 00:02:57,133 --> 00:02:59,433 We can tie into that for drainage, so check there. 74 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:00,800 The next thing is electrical power. 75 00:03:00,866 --> 00:03:02,933 I can see an electrical panel right over there. 76 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,166 The last thing is where the steam gets introduced, 77 00:03:05,233 --> 00:03:07,766 and that's the steam-distributor wand. 78 00:03:07,833 --> 00:03:09,100 And where does that get placed? 79 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:10,800 So, I like to mount the distributor right here 80 00:03:10,866 --> 00:03:12,766 on the supply plenum, but when I measure it, 81 00:03:12,833 --> 00:03:16,566 I can see that I have about 30 inches of space, 82 00:03:16,633 --> 00:03:19,500 and I'm really looking for at least 6 feet of length. 83 00:03:19,566 --> 00:03:20,900 That's really what I'm shooting for. 84 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,433 So 30 inches is not going to cut it. 85 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,733 On top of that, I got two zone dampers here. 86 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,033 These are the gates that control airflow to the upstairs. 87 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:30,433 So, do you know where this zone goes and where this zone goes? 88 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:32,200 Jeff: I believe this zone here 89 00:03:32,266 --> 00:03:34,000 goes over to the -- stays at the main house. 90 00:03:34,066 --> 00:03:35,233 Ross: Okay. Jeff: And this one here 91 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:37,066 goes over to the great room. Ross: Okay. 92 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:40,666 So, the main-house zone is a nice straight run of duct. 93 00:03:40,733 --> 00:03:45,833 It's 8"x18". 94 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:48,266 So that's a perfect-sized duct for what we need. 95 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:50,400 And it's got the length that we need, right? 96 00:03:50,466 --> 00:03:51,966 So we could put an air-proving switch, 97 00:03:52,033 --> 00:03:54,000 we can put the steam wand, and we can put the high limit 98 00:03:54,066 --> 00:03:57,066 all on this run downstream of the zone damper, 99 00:03:57,133 --> 00:03:59,133 and that can be a perfect place to introduce the humidity. 100 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,700 How's that sound? Jeff: That sounds great, yeah. 101 00:04:00,766 --> 00:04:02,400 Ross: Okay. Alright. Well, I got to get some equipment, 102 00:04:02,466 --> 00:04:03,533 but I'll be back in a little bit, 103 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,633 and we'll get started on the install. 104 00:04:04,700 --> 00:04:06,566 Jeff: Okay. Sounds good. Ross: Cool. 105 00:04:07,366 --> 00:04:09,433 Alright, Jeff, so, I sized up your unit. 106 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:10,766 You're going to need a unit for about 107 00:04:10,833 --> 00:04:12,633 6 to 7 pounds of humidity. 108 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:14,200 So, that's based on the square footage of your house, 109 00:04:14,266 --> 00:04:17,166 the air leakage of your house, your bath fans, et cetera. 110 00:04:17,233 --> 00:04:18,933 So, this unit right here that we've picked 111 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,966 is a 10-pound-per-hour unit, alright? 112 00:04:21,033 --> 00:04:22,433 So we're covered on the humidity. 113 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:23,733 And let's talk about the way it works. 114 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,600 So, first, we have the waterline 115 00:04:25,666 --> 00:04:27,200 that comes into the unit. 116 00:04:27,266 --> 00:04:29,666 This has got a local shut-off and it's got a shock absorber. 117 00:04:29,733 --> 00:04:31,266 This is a water hammer arrestor. 118 00:04:31,333 --> 00:04:32,600 So, this is when the valve closes, 119 00:04:32,666 --> 00:04:34,600 you don't hear any banging of the water pipes. 120 00:04:34,666 --> 00:04:39,166 It also has a sensor in here to detect if there's ever a leak. 121 00:04:39,233 --> 00:04:41,800 The controller would detect that and it would shut this valve. 122 00:04:41,866 --> 00:04:42,966 So you're never going to have to worry 123 00:04:43,033 --> 00:04:44,466 about water coming out of this unit 124 00:04:44,533 --> 00:04:45,466 and getting onto the floor, causing any damage. 125 00:04:45,533 --> 00:04:46,966 Jeff: Great. 126 00:04:47,033 --> 00:04:48,433 Ross: The other thing we have here is a condensate drain 127 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,166 that comes through a trap that will get drained away. 128 00:04:51,233 --> 00:04:54,533 And then, on top of that, we have this steam canister. 129 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,566 So, this right here, this white unit right here, 130 00:04:56,633 --> 00:04:59,900 has two electrodes in it that produce the steam. 131 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:02,600 And, so, water will fill up, and when that water 132 00:05:02,666 --> 00:05:04,633 comes in contact with those hot electrodes, 133 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:05,766 they're going to make that conduction happen 134 00:05:05,833 --> 00:05:07,233 and you're going to create steam. 135 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:08,633 And that steam is going to come out through this wand. 136 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:10,233 So think of, like, a steam kettle. 137 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:11,500 And that is going to be connected to 138 00:05:11,566 --> 00:05:12,833 a steam distributor. 139 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:14,633 And the steam gets connected here 140 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:16,300 and it comes out through these holes, alright? 141 00:05:16,366 --> 00:05:20,500 So you can imagine this being in the duct, just like that. 142 00:05:20,566 --> 00:05:22,733 Now, we have a couple of safeties. 143 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,533 For one, we have an air-proving switch. 144 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,700 So, this is a key safety element to make sure 145 00:05:27,766 --> 00:05:31,566 that we don't introduce steam without the blower motor active. 146 00:05:31,633 --> 00:05:34,266 So we need air to be moving across this 147 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:35,966 for it to actually absorb the steam 148 00:05:36,033 --> 00:05:37,900 and put it into your duct system. 149 00:05:37,966 --> 00:05:40,066 We also have a high limit. 150 00:05:40,133 --> 00:05:42,766 This high limit is mounted 10 feet downstream to make sure 151 00:05:42,833 --> 00:05:46,400 that we don't put too much humidity into the duct system. 152 00:05:46,466 --> 00:05:49,166 And the last one is a return-air humidity sensor. 153 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:51,733 That will sense the humidity in the space 154 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,733 and it will get mounted right behind 155 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,233 the return register, alright? 156 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:57,066 And, so, we opted for this with the controller down here. 157 00:05:57,133 --> 00:05:58,400 And you should be able to set it once -- 158 00:05:58,466 --> 00:05:59,900 kind of set it and forget it. 159 00:05:59,966 --> 00:06:01,533 We'll set it for 35%. 160 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,966 You can make minor adjustments up or down 161 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:04,533 through that first winter. 162 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,466 One thing we don't want to do is play with it too much 163 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:08,366 and turn it up too much, because if you turn up too much, 164 00:06:08,433 --> 00:06:09,733 you could actually have a rainforest in your house. 165 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,933 Jeff: Oh, we don't want that. 166 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,500 Ross: You definitely do not want that. 167 00:06:12,566 --> 00:06:14,000 Jeff: Okay. As far as maintenance, 168 00:06:14,066 --> 00:06:15,333 anything I should be concerned with? 169 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,233 Ross: Yeah, so, there is one big maintenance item, 170 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:18,566 and that is this canister. 171 00:06:18,633 --> 00:06:20,166 So, that canister is going to be dependent on 172 00:06:20,233 --> 00:06:22,533 how much humidity and how often it runs. 173 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,566 But, typically, every two years, that needs to get replaced. 174 00:06:24,633 --> 00:06:25,933 Jeff: Okay. Ross: Alright? 175 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,833 So, it is an easy fix, though, as far as removing 176 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:29,733 these electrodes and removing the high level 177 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,966 and removing this canister 178 00:06:31,033 --> 00:06:32,433 and replace it with a whole new canister, 179 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:33,800 because there will be a lot of mineral deposits 180 00:06:33,866 --> 00:06:35,266 that get caked under the electrodes. 181 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:36,866 Jeff: Okay. Sounds simple. Ross: Cool. 182 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:39,000 Alright, well, it's not D.I.Y.-friendly to install this, 183 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,100 so I brought in a team of contractors 184 00:06:40,166 --> 00:06:41,200 to help with the install, 185 00:06:41,266 --> 00:06:42,866 and so we're ready to get started. 186 00:06:42,933 --> 00:06:43,866 Jeff: Okay. Fantastic. Let's do it. 187 00:06:43,933 --> 00:06:45,266 Ross: Let's go. Jeff: Great. 188 00:06:45,333 --> 00:06:52,100 ♪♪ 189 00:06:52,166 --> 00:06:58,600 ♪♪ 190 00:06:58,666 --> 00:07:02,533 [ Indistinct conversation ] 191 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:10,100 ♪♪ 192 00:07:10,166 --> 00:07:17,700 ♪♪ 193 00:07:17,766 --> 00:07:25,233 ♪♪ 194 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:32,800 ♪♪ 195 00:07:32,866 --> 00:07:34,900 Ross: Alright, Jeff, the installation is complete. 196 00:07:34,966 --> 00:07:38,033 So, just to recap, we got the air-proving switch installed. 197 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:40,566 We got a distributor wand, right here, installed. 198 00:07:40,633 --> 00:07:41,966 We got a see-through window 199 00:07:42,033 --> 00:07:43,766 so you can see the steam right from here. 200 00:07:43,833 --> 00:07:45,366 The steam humidifier itself is mounted on the wall, 201 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:46,566 like we talked about. 202 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:47,800 Everything's all plumbed up. 203 00:07:47,866 --> 00:07:49,433 We also have the wall controller right here. 204 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,133 It's already set for 35%. 205 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,966 So if you need to make any adjustments at all, 206 00:07:53,033 --> 00:07:55,200 1 or 2 percentage points up or down at a time, 207 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:56,600 no big changes in that. Jeff: Sure. 208 00:07:56,666 --> 00:07:57,733 Ross: But it should be ready to go for next winter. 209 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:58,766 Jeff: Fantastic. It looks great, Ross. 210 00:07:58,833 --> 00:07:59,733 Thanks so much for your help. 211 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Ross: Alright. 212 00:08:01,066 --> 00:08:01,933 Jeff: Look forward to having a good winter. 213 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,133 Ross: Alright. Nice and moist. 214 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,766 Jeff: Yeah. Take care. Ross: See ya. 215 00:08:07,533 --> 00:08:09,966 Kevin: Mauro, if it was anyone other than you, 216 00:08:10,033 --> 00:08:11,833 I'd be afraid I was getting taken out. 217 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:13,000 Mauro: [ Laughs ] 218 00:08:13,066 --> 00:08:14,633 It's just preparation for painting. 219 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:16,033 Kevin: Just paint. Mauro: This is my every day. 220 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:17,200 Right? Kevin: Just your every day. 221 00:08:17,266 --> 00:08:18,566 Painting shutters, I presume? 222 00:08:18,633 --> 00:08:21,400 Mauro: Not an easy job. I got these wooden shutters. 223 00:08:21,466 --> 00:08:23,733 But I'd like to share my technique 224 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,733 for painting wooden shutters when I get a lot of them. 225 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,133 Kevin: Alright, well, walk me through it, 226 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,500 'cause if you've got one shutter, you probably have 20. 227 00:08:31,566 --> 00:08:32,900 Mauro: We got 20. 228 00:08:32,966 --> 00:08:35,300 Sometimes, we come to a project that we have like 80. 229 00:08:35,366 --> 00:08:36,666 Kevin: Oh, yeah. Mauro: Right? 230 00:08:36,733 --> 00:08:38,400 When you count them, you have to have a technique 231 00:08:38,466 --> 00:08:40,533 to get that work done and done fast. 232 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,466 Kevin: Okay. So, what is the technique? 233 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:43,666 Mauro: Well, what we're going to do here is, 234 00:08:43,733 --> 00:08:45,300 we're going to stack them up, okay? 235 00:08:45,366 --> 00:08:46,600 I got four of them. 236 00:08:46,666 --> 00:08:48,733 One top of the other, on the same position. 237 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,166 Kevin: Mm-hmm. Mauro: And then I get my spray. 238 00:08:51,233 --> 00:08:53,700 We're going to spray all the four sides first. 239 00:08:53,766 --> 00:08:56,366 And then we're going to spray the top of each one of it. 240 00:08:56,433 --> 00:08:59,333 Kevin: So, obviously, you're not opting for a brush. 241 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,933 You prefer the sprayer. 242 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,900 Mauro: Well, let's say you get about 50 shutters to paint. 243 00:09:03,966 --> 00:09:05,266 Kevin: Yeah. Mauro: Alright? 244 00:09:05,333 --> 00:09:07,800 You can use a brush, but it's going to take forever. 245 00:09:07,866 --> 00:09:09,200 Kevin: Sure. Mauro: Alright? 246 00:09:09,266 --> 00:09:10,700 Kevin: I mean, look at All the nooks and crannies. 247 00:09:10,766 --> 00:09:11,933 You got to get into the slats and everything like that. 248 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,500 Mauro: You got the slats. You got this. 249 00:09:13,566 --> 00:09:16,200 And it's much easier with the sprayer, even if you have like 250 00:09:16,266 --> 00:09:19,300 a couple shutters or three or four with the sprayer. 251 00:09:19,366 --> 00:09:22,000 A sprayer -- that's the way I like to do it. 252 00:09:22,066 --> 00:09:23,466 Kevin: Alright. So, show me this stacking idea 253 00:09:23,533 --> 00:09:24,466 that we're talking about. Mauro: Alright. 254 00:09:24,533 --> 00:09:26,866 Let's do this right now. 255 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:31,033 They should have -- They would go on the same position, 256 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:32,800 line up nice. 257 00:09:32,866 --> 00:09:34,800 Kevin: So we're not sticking in between. 258 00:09:34,866 --> 00:09:37,000 You're actually going to lay them, you know, face-to-face. 259 00:09:37,066 --> 00:09:38,566 Mauro: Face-to-face, yes. Kevin: Okay. 260 00:09:38,633 --> 00:09:40,900 And you got the slats in the same orientation. 261 00:09:40,966 --> 00:09:42,700 Mauro: The same orientation, same position. 262 00:09:42,766 --> 00:09:44,666 Kevin: Oh, I think I get what's going on now. 263 00:09:44,733 --> 00:09:46,066 I gotcha. Mauro: The legs goes this way. 264 00:09:46,133 --> 00:09:47,933 Top goes that way. Kevin: Yep. 265 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Mauro: Make sure they're nice and flush here. 266 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:52,366 Kevin: Because you are going to -- 267 00:09:52,433 --> 00:09:54,600 Mauro: We are going to make them look great. 268 00:09:54,666 --> 00:09:57,533 Kevin: You're going to paint -- I see the sides of all four. 269 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Mauro: All four sides. They all match. 270 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:01,033 Kevin: So now you've got basically what feels like 271 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,466 one surface, even though it's four. 272 00:10:03,533 --> 00:10:05,566 You can come down with your sprayer and hit that. 273 00:10:05,633 --> 00:10:08,133 Mauro: We're going to spray all the four sides, okay? 274 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,266 Kevin: Alright. Mauro: All the four sides first. 275 00:10:10,333 --> 00:10:12,933 And then we're going to do the top of each one. 276 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,300 Kevin: One at a time. Mauro: Yep, we do one. 277 00:10:15,366 --> 00:10:17,000 We'll move it out to the dry station, 278 00:10:17,066 --> 00:10:18,966 do the next one, and that goes on. 279 00:10:19,033 --> 00:10:20,100 Kevin: It's like buttering my pancakes. 280 00:10:20,166 --> 00:10:22,333 Alright, let's get the sprayer set up. 281 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:30,000 ♪♪ 282 00:10:30,066 --> 00:10:37,700 ♪♪ 283 00:10:37,766 --> 00:10:45,366 ♪♪ 284 00:10:45,433 --> 00:10:52,233 ♪♪ 285 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:59,066 ♪♪ 286 00:10:59,133 --> 00:11:01,433 You are smooth with that gun, Mauro. 287 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:02,700 Mauro: See? Kevin: Let's have a look. 288 00:11:02,766 --> 00:11:04,733 Doesn't that look nice? What about the color? 289 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,933 Kevin: The color is terrific, 290 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,166 but the coverage is just fantastic. 291 00:11:08,233 --> 00:11:10,800 Look, every little nook and cranny -- completely covered. 292 00:11:10,866 --> 00:11:12,700 So, one coats or two? 293 00:11:12,766 --> 00:11:14,666 Mauro: One -- This is the first of two. 294 00:11:14,733 --> 00:11:16,266 Kevin: So, you're going to let these dry for how long? 295 00:11:16,333 --> 00:11:18,700 Mauro: We're gonna let this dry for about four hours, 296 00:11:18,766 --> 00:11:20,900 and then we can put the second and final coat on. 297 00:11:20,966 --> 00:11:22,466 Kevin: Which is the exact same process -- 298 00:11:22,533 --> 00:11:24,300 Mauro: Same process as the first coat. 299 00:11:24,366 --> 00:11:25,633 Kevin: I love it. Alright. 300 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:26,866 Well, I appreciate you sharing your technique. 301 00:11:26,933 --> 00:11:28,800 Mauro: Good. Look good. Look at this. 302 00:11:28,866 --> 00:11:32,233 ♪♪ 303 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,166 Kevin: Hey, this is an adorable little table right here, Tommy. 304 00:11:34,233 --> 00:11:35,200 That's nice. Tom: Yeah. 305 00:11:35,266 --> 00:11:36,800 I've had this thing a long time. 306 00:11:36,866 --> 00:11:39,566 It's probably been 20 years. It's a great outdoor table. 307 00:11:39,633 --> 00:11:40,766 Sometimes, I use it on the boat, 308 00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:42,966 but it's a great little corner table also. 309 00:11:43,033 --> 00:11:44,200 Kevin: Very nice. 310 00:11:44,266 --> 00:11:46,966 So, you've got sort of a triangular top. 311 00:11:47,033 --> 00:11:49,433 Tom: We're gonna use the slats so the water won't puddle on it. 312 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:53,266 Kevin: And then you've got some legs there with a nice flare. 313 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:55,333 Tom: Yeah, they curve down like that. 314 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,500 And we're going to make it out of teak, 315 00:11:56,566 --> 00:11:57,900 'cause I want it to last. 316 00:11:57,966 --> 00:12:00,700 Kevin: So top, bottom -- where do you want to start? 317 00:12:00,766 --> 00:12:02,366 Tom: Let's start with the top. Kevin: Alright. 318 00:12:02,433 --> 00:12:04,900 Table saw then. Tom: You got it. 319 00:12:07,966 --> 00:12:09,400 Alright, now we're going to cut the frame 320 00:12:09,466 --> 00:12:10,933 for the perimeter of the top, 321 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,700 so I need to cut two pieces 3 1/4. 322 00:12:13,766 --> 00:12:15,533 And we're going to cut them slightly bigger 323 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,500 and fine-tune it after. 324 00:12:29,833 --> 00:12:32,900 Now we are ready to cut the three pieces 325 00:12:32,966 --> 00:12:36,033 that make up our triangle -- the two sides and the base. 326 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:37,433 Kevin: Right. 327 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:40,600 Tom: If you look, two sides are wider than the bottom. 328 00:12:40,666 --> 00:12:43,033 What we have to do is find that angle. 329 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:46,633 So I took two pieces of scrap wood, same width, 330 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:48,866 and I bisected the angle with those 331 00:12:48,933 --> 00:12:52,566 to give us the angle and the length that we need. 332 00:12:52,633 --> 00:12:57,233 Now we transfer those pieces to our teak, like that, 333 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,533 and we'll cut them on the saw. 334 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,066 Kevin: And you'll use these to set your angles on the chop saw. 335 00:13:02,133 --> 00:13:03,466 Tom: Exactly. 336 00:13:03,533 --> 00:13:06,700 Because our pieces are the exactly the same length 337 00:13:06,766 --> 00:13:10,533 on each side, the same width, and the same angle, 338 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,000 we're going to put them together and cut them at the same time. 339 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,333 With my template flipped over, 340 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,800 I now transfer the angle that's on the other end to my saw. 341 00:13:33,766 --> 00:13:36,000 Now I have to mark my length... 342 00:13:38,566 --> 00:13:40,166 and cut them. 343 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,066 Now I have both pieces cut exactly the same length 344 00:13:52,133 --> 00:13:53,666 and the same angle. 345 00:13:56,633 --> 00:13:58,300 We're ready to cut our groove. 346 00:13:58,366 --> 00:14:00,600 We've got a router bit set at the right height 347 00:14:00,666 --> 00:14:04,000 and the distance out, which will allow our slats 348 00:14:04,066 --> 00:14:06,366 to be flush with the top. 349 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,833 I temporarily screwed our two pieces together 350 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:24,700 that are going to go on the sides of the triangle like that. 351 00:14:24,766 --> 00:14:27,033 And this is the bottom piece right there. 352 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:30,833 Now, what we're ready to do is cut the slats 353 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:32,766 that are going to go in the center. 354 00:14:32,833 --> 00:14:35,333 We could rip down each individual slat, 355 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,966 but I want to do it all as one piece from this one sheet. 356 00:14:40,033 --> 00:14:41,933 Okay, so there's our piece. 357 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,233 Now what we have to do is measure the depth of our groove. 358 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,400 Do that with my combination square. 359 00:14:48,466 --> 00:14:53,700 Put it in, push it down, hold it down tight, lock it. 360 00:14:53,766 --> 00:14:56,400 That's the exact depth of our groove. 361 00:14:56,466 --> 00:14:59,333 I want to make that just a little bit less. 362 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,100 I'm going to slide it down about 1/16 of an inch. 363 00:15:04,366 --> 00:15:09,066 I'm going to line up my square with the line 364 00:15:09,133 --> 00:15:11,266 and put a mark to the long. 365 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:17,033 Kevin: So you're going to extend your triangle's dimension 366 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:20,300 so that you've got a little extra for that rabbet? 367 00:15:20,366 --> 00:15:21,866 Tom: Yep. 368 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:13,133 Alright. Now we have our piece all sanded. 369 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,033 That's our triangle with the flat center. 370 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:18,666 But we want one, two, three, four, five slats 371 00:16:18,733 --> 00:16:20,900 divided equally over the run. 372 00:16:20,966 --> 00:16:22,900 So I'm going to use this tool here 373 00:16:22,966 --> 00:16:26,033 that will automatically divide it into five equal spots. 374 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,666 We'll put the blade right on that line, 375 00:16:28,733 --> 00:16:33,466 and the thickness of the blade will become our groove. 376 00:16:33,533 --> 00:16:38,066 Transfer that, make a straight line to follow all the way down. 377 00:17:01,566 --> 00:17:03,000 We're ready to install these, 378 00:17:03,066 --> 00:17:06,000 but I still want them to be able to expand and contract. 379 00:17:06,066 --> 00:17:09,800 So we're going to put a dab, like, right there. 380 00:17:09,866 --> 00:17:11,000 I'll push it in. 381 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,566 The glue will hold the center of the board, 382 00:17:16,633 --> 00:17:20,200 and it can expand on each side. 383 00:17:25,866 --> 00:17:29,466 Alright, our slats are in place, waiting for the glue to dry, 384 00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:33,333 but we can mark for the bottom, so we'll simply trace it. 385 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,733 Kevin: Alright, put that... 386 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,700 Tom: All the way out. 387 00:17:37,766 --> 00:17:40,966 Then you take it and mark the rest of it over there. 388 00:17:43,566 --> 00:17:45,000 Ooh! 389 00:17:45,066 --> 00:17:49,166 So, what we'll do now is, we'll cut that on the bandsaw. 390 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,100 Kevin: Alright, Tommy, so, top is done. 391 00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:40,266 Tom: Yep. Alright. 392 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:41,766 Now we're going to work on the legs, 393 00:18:41,833 --> 00:18:44,566 and to match the legs, what I did is, 394 00:18:44,633 --> 00:18:47,700 I took a tracing of the curve of the legs, 395 00:18:47,766 --> 00:18:49,033 which makes a template. 396 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,600 That template -- we then transfer it to 397 00:18:51,666 --> 00:18:53,000 this piece of teak, 398 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,900 and then we'll cut them on the bandsaw. 399 00:18:55,966 --> 00:19:03,166 ♪♪ 400 00:19:03,233 --> 00:19:10,466 ♪♪ 401 00:19:10,533 --> 00:19:17,733 ♪♪ 402 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:25,000 ♪♪ 403 00:19:25,066 --> 00:19:32,300 ♪♪ 404 00:19:32,366 --> 00:19:39,600 ♪♪ 405 00:19:39,666 --> 00:19:46,866 ♪♪ 406 00:19:46,933 --> 00:19:53,733 ♪♪ 407 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,733 Putting together the frame that goes under the top 408 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,900 so we can mount the legs. 409 00:19:58,966 --> 00:20:04,000 ♪♪ 410 00:20:04,066 --> 00:20:09,066 ♪♪ 411 00:20:09,133 --> 00:20:14,133 ♪♪ 412 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,366 ♪♪ 413 00:20:19,433 --> 00:20:21,800 Each pair of legs have two stretchers. 414 00:20:21,866 --> 00:20:24,200 So, we're building the first set right now. 415 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:29,566 ♪♪ 416 00:20:29,633 --> 00:20:34,933 ♪♪ 417 00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:40,333 ♪♪ 418 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,700 ♪♪ 419 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:51,066 ♪♪ 420 00:20:51,133 --> 00:20:56,433 ♪♪ 421 00:20:56,500 --> 00:21:01,800 ♪♪ 422 00:21:01,866 --> 00:21:07,066 ♪♪ 423 00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:10,033 There we go. That's right. 424 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:13,766 ♪♪ 425 00:21:13,833 --> 00:21:19,000 ♪♪ 426 00:21:19,066 --> 00:21:24,200 ♪♪ 427 00:21:24,266 --> 00:21:29,433 ♪♪ 428 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:34,633 ♪♪ 429 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:39,833 ♪♪ 430 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:45,100 ♪♪ 431 00:21:45,166 --> 00:21:48,800 ♪♪ 432 00:21:48,866 --> 00:21:52,100 There you go. Kevin: Let's have a look. 433 00:21:52,166 --> 00:21:54,433 Oh, yeah. Tom: Looks pretty nice. 434 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:57,066 Kevin: That looks great. Look at that top right there. 435 00:21:57,133 --> 00:21:58,433 Tom: Yeah. Kevin: That's beautiful. 436 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:04,700 And let's see how we did matching it to the original. 437 00:22:04,766 --> 00:22:06,000 Tom: Came pretty close. Kevin: Look at that, huh? 438 00:22:06,066 --> 00:22:07,366 Twins. Tom: Looks Good. 439 00:22:07,433 --> 00:22:10,333 Kevin: Very nice. So, any thoughts on a finish? 440 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,866 Tom: Well, I can tell you that this one 441 00:22:11,933 --> 00:22:14,400 hasn't had a finish for over 20 years, 442 00:22:14,466 --> 00:22:16,466 and if you were going to put a finish on it, 443 00:22:16,533 --> 00:22:19,000 you could use, like, a teak oil or linseed oil. 444 00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:22,633 You could use a varnish -- exterior varnish -- or an epoxy. 445 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:25,333 But I can tell you this -- once you put a finish on it, 446 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,333 you're going to have to put a finish on it every 447 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,333 two or three years, if it's outside. 448 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,233 Kevin: I say leave it natural, right? Nice match. 449 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:32,633 Tom: Absolutely. Kevin: Cool. Great project. 450 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:34,133 And you know what? 451 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,000 Now that there's two, you can have a guest on the boat. 452 00:22:41,833 --> 00:22:44,100 Kevin: Next time on "Ask This Old House," 453 00:22:44,166 --> 00:22:47,133 Mark repairs a patio that has settled over time. 454 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,100 Then Nathan talks about types of ladders and accessories 455 00:22:53,166 --> 00:22:55,900 that can make some tall tasks easier. 456 00:22:57,066 --> 00:23:01,033 And he helps a homeowner install an EV charger. 457 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:06,600 ♪♪ 458 00:23:06,666 --> 00:23:09,666 All that on "Ask This Old House."