1 00:00:01,333 --> 00:00:05,100 ♪♪ 2 00:00:05,166 --> 00:00:06,600 Kevin: On "Ask This Old House", 3 00:00:06,666 --> 00:00:09,100 our experts travel across the country 4 00:00:09,166 --> 00:00:11,766 to answer questions about your house. 5 00:00:11,833 --> 00:00:18,033 ♪♪ 6 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:21,466 Today, when a homeowner wants to put a TV outside, 7 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:23,133 Heath provides some guidance on 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,900 how to properly install the unit. 9 00:00:24,966 --> 00:00:26,666 Joanna: Looks incredible. 10 00:00:26,733 --> 00:00:27,800 Kevin: Then, do you have questions 11 00:00:27,866 --> 00:00:30,266 on how to start a renovation? 12 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:35,000 Tommy and Zack give some insights on the do's and don'ts. 13 00:00:35,066 --> 00:00:39,366 Then Mark helps a homeowner redesign their aging fire pit. 14 00:00:39,433 --> 00:00:41,900 Marcos: Thank you so much. It's beautiful. 15 00:00:41,966 --> 00:00:43,766 Kevin: All that on "Ask This Old House." 16 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:51,800 -Heath: Hi, Joanna. -Joanna: Hi, Heath. 17 00:00:51,866 --> 00:00:54,200 -Heath: Nice to meet you. -Joanna: Nice to meet you, too. 18 00:00:54,266 --> 00:00:56,633 Heath: So I saw that you wrote in about using an outdoor TV. 19 00:00:56,700 --> 00:01:00,366 Joanna: Yes. We love the space. We're out here all the time. 20 00:01:00,433 --> 00:01:03,266 And we've got a family of three boys. 21 00:01:03,333 --> 00:01:05,400 We love to watch sports together. 22 00:01:05,466 --> 00:01:08,700 So right now, we're bringing a TV from inside the house, 23 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:11,700 carrying it, lugging it, along with a stand, in and out 24 00:01:11,766 --> 00:01:13,066 when we're trying to watch TV. 25 00:01:13,133 --> 00:01:14,333 Heath: That's not great, dragging that out. 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,233 But one of the concerns would be, 27 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:17,433 it seems like you have a lot of sunshine on this deck. 28 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:19,066 Joanna: Yes, we do. 29 00:01:19,133 --> 00:01:20,700 We're lucky to get a lot of light here, 30 00:01:20,766 --> 00:01:22,333 but actually this wall doesn't get sun. 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,766 Heath: Let's take a look at it. 32 00:01:23,833 --> 00:01:25,300 This seems like a great wall. 33 00:01:25,366 --> 00:01:27,066 It's nice and shady, even though the rest of the deck is sunny. 34 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:28,700 And you said it stays like this most of the day. 35 00:01:28,766 --> 00:01:30,533 Joanna: Yes, it's in the shade all day. 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Heath: Nice. So when you had your other TV out here, 37 00:01:32,066 --> 00:01:33,533 did you actually have it up against here, 38 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,066 or did you have it somewhere else? 39 00:01:35,133 --> 00:01:39,033 Joanna: No, we used to bring out a table and stand for the TV, 40 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:42,333 and then bring the TV and plug it into that outdoor outlet. 41 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Heath: And you typically put it a little further out? 42 00:01:43,666 --> 00:01:45,066 Joanna: A little further out. Yeah. 43 00:01:45,133 --> 00:01:47,100 Heath: Okay, so when you had that plugged across there, 44 00:01:47,166 --> 00:01:48,100 a little bit of a trip hazard. 45 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:49,300 Joanna: Oh, yes. 46 00:01:49,366 --> 00:01:50,966 Yes, there was a couple of scary moments. 47 00:01:51,033 --> 00:01:52,566 Heath: So now I see why you want to put it on the wall. 48 00:01:52,633 --> 00:01:54,000 -Joanna: Exactly. -Heath: So the nice thing is you 49 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:55,466 have power out here, but I'd be a little concerned 50 00:01:55,533 --> 00:01:57,433 about the same kind of thing if we just plugged in. 51 00:01:57,500 --> 00:01:59,400 If I just ran a cord down and plugged in, 52 00:01:59,466 --> 00:02:01,300 it's still going to be loose, someone still might snag it 53 00:02:01,366 --> 00:02:02,966 walking back and forth. 54 00:02:03,033 --> 00:02:05,366 And you could staple it, which isn't a bad option. 55 00:02:05,433 --> 00:02:07,300 But I don't always like to do that. 56 00:02:07,366 --> 00:02:08,933 If you want to take this in or service it or anything, 57 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,600 then you have to take all that apart. 58 00:02:10,666 --> 00:02:11,966 -Joanna: Makes sense. -Heath: So I think I might make 59 00:02:12,033 --> 00:02:13,066 a little more sense while we do have that power 60 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,333 there, might be able to utilize it. 61 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,266 I want to put a receptacle behind the TV, 62 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:18,700 keep the cords out of the way, out of sight, nice and clean. 63 00:02:18,766 --> 00:02:20,366 I think that'll work a little better. 64 00:02:20,433 --> 00:02:23,066 For mounting the bracket, I think we get lucky. 65 00:02:23,133 --> 00:02:25,166 Looking at the nails with the clapboards, 66 00:02:25,233 --> 00:02:26,900 I think we can see where the studs are. 67 00:02:26,966 --> 00:02:29,700 I want to make sure this is nice and secure and secure that. 68 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:32,833 So those are 16 inches on center. 69 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:34,200 With any luck, if it's done right, 70 00:02:34,266 --> 00:02:35,700 those should be our studs. 71 00:02:35,766 --> 00:02:38,000 So we should be able to bolt right to those nice and secure, 72 00:02:38,066 --> 00:02:39,533 and should be good. 73 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,166 So the last thing to kind of consider is the size of the TV. 74 00:02:42,233 --> 00:02:44,033 Now, we're going to be a little limited as 75 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:45,566 to what we can fit between the vent and the light 76 00:02:45,633 --> 00:02:47,966 and the location, but when you have the TV out here before, 77 00:02:48,033 --> 00:02:49,266 what size did you have? 78 00:02:49,333 --> 00:02:50,633 Was it like a 50? -Joanna: We had a 55. 79 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:52,100 -Heath: 55. And sitting on that table 80 00:02:52,166 --> 00:02:53,700 and probably being a little further over 81 00:02:53,766 --> 00:02:55,100 and closer to the seats was probably fine. 82 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:57,333 We start to put that back here, as silly as that sounds, 83 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,733 that may not be quite enough for what you want to have out here. 84 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,533 So looking at this, a quick measurement. 85 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,133 Yeah, we've got about 66, 67 inches. 86 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,666 If we walk back over here, take a look. 87 00:03:10,733 --> 00:03:12,833 I think we have just enough room to sneak a 65 in there, 88 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:14,100 which I think might be just about right 89 00:03:14,166 --> 00:03:15,666 from sitting out there. What do you think? 90 00:03:15,733 --> 00:03:17,000 Joanna: I think that sounds great. 91 00:03:17,066 --> 00:03:18,300 Heath: All right. Let me grab a couple of things, 92 00:03:18,366 --> 00:03:20,000 and we'll get started. -Joanna: Sounds good. 93 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:23,833 So, what is this? 94 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:25,800 I thought we were installing a TV. 95 00:03:25,866 --> 00:03:27,033 Heath: We are, but this is actually 96 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:28,500 an outdoor TV enclosure. 97 00:03:28,566 --> 00:03:30,366 I didn't want to just take a regular indoor TV 98 00:03:30,433 --> 00:03:32,566 and mount it to the outside wall and use it that way. 99 00:03:32,633 --> 00:03:34,033 I mean, we've seen it done. 100 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:35,400 People throw covers on them, think it's okay, 101 00:03:35,466 --> 00:03:37,066 and in some areas you might get away with it, 102 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:38,833 but it's not a good practice and I don't recommend it. 103 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,700 I mean, even when the cover, we're still prone 104 00:03:40,766 --> 00:03:43,200 to drastic temperatures, humidity getting inside there, 105 00:03:43,266 --> 00:03:45,266 causing premature failure and possible other damage. 106 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:46,666 So I don't want to do that. 107 00:03:46,733 --> 00:03:48,400 We could buy an outdoor TV. 108 00:03:48,466 --> 00:03:50,666 Great solution, but they are what they are. 109 00:03:50,733 --> 00:03:51,966 There's technology that's enclosed to them. 110 00:03:52,033 --> 00:03:53,133 They're all sealed up. 111 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,733 They're a great all in one solution, 112 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,666 but they can also be very expensive. 113 00:03:56,733 --> 00:03:58,033 So this is the enclosure 114 00:03:58,100 --> 00:03:59,733 I want to use that's going to let us be flexible. 115 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,200 It's going to have the best of both worlds 116 00:04:01,266 --> 00:04:02,933 where we can take either a TV you already have 117 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,833 or something that's changed or been updated 118 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:06,666 and install it into the system. 119 00:04:06,733 --> 00:04:08,433 Joanna: Okay. Sounds like a great idea. 120 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:10,033 There seems like a lot going on in here. 121 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:11,166 What is all this? 122 00:04:11,233 --> 00:04:12,700 Heath: There is. 123 00:04:12,766 --> 00:04:14,300 So we're basically copying all the benefits of the outdoor TVs 124 00:04:14,366 --> 00:04:16,200 and trying to put it in this enclosure. 125 00:04:16,266 --> 00:04:18,300 So we have integrated cooling fans on thermostats. 126 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:20,433 So if it gets too hot, it'll draw fresh air from the top 127 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:21,866 and blow her out of the bottom. 128 00:04:21,933 --> 00:04:23,533 And the other feature is on the bottom here. 129 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,100 This is where our power cord is going to come out. 130 00:04:25,166 --> 00:04:27,166 So this pops out. 131 00:04:27,233 --> 00:04:29,033 We can actually make a little slice on that X, 132 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:30,333 pull the cord through and kind of keep it sealed 133 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,000 and put that back in. 134 00:04:32,066 --> 00:04:33,566 We have an additional heater we can add 135 00:04:33,633 --> 00:04:35,433 if we want, this humidification control. 136 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:38,733 Joanna: Oh, that's awesome. Now is this easy to clean? 137 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,700 I can imagine pollen and outdoor dust could get on there. 138 00:04:42,766 --> 00:04:44,166 Heath: Great question. So hopefully with the sealing, 139 00:04:44,233 --> 00:04:45,500 we don't get anything on the inside. 140 00:04:45,566 --> 00:04:47,300 But the outside is just simply a polycarbonate. 141 00:04:47,366 --> 00:04:48,866 Just use a particular cleaner for that. 142 00:04:48,933 --> 00:04:50,766 We can wipe it down almost like a wax 143 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,633 and kind of seal it up and keep it from scratching. 144 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:53,933 It's gonna look great. 145 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,566 So I think this is a great setup to use, 146 00:04:55,633 --> 00:04:57,666 whether a TV you have, something new, 147 00:04:57,733 --> 00:04:59,233 make it nice and simple and get all the benefits. 148 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,066 What do you think? -Joanna: Sounds great. 149 00:05:01,133 --> 00:05:03,100 Heath: All right, now we got our work cut out for us. 150 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:04,266 Joanna: Yes. 151 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:05,500 Now this looks more like a TV. 152 00:05:05,566 --> 00:05:06,966 Heath: This is your TV. 153 00:05:07,033 --> 00:05:08,766 So we've taken this TV and what you've done, 154 00:05:08,833 --> 00:05:10,633 you can see, we've put it on these foam blocks. 155 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:13,066 This is from the manufacturer of the enclosure. 156 00:05:13,133 --> 00:05:14,833 They provide these blocks for us. 157 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:16,633 They're very clear about the instructions. 158 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:17,966 Make sure you put them underneath the frame, 159 00:05:18,033 --> 00:05:19,733 not just the screen 160 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,433 but the frame all the way around to carry this. 161 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:23,200 Because what's gonna happen is it's gonna make it easier 162 00:05:23,266 --> 00:05:25,066 for assembly for us to bolt everything on. 163 00:05:25,133 --> 00:05:26,900 Then we actually can slide the enclosure over 164 00:05:26,966 --> 00:05:28,866 and let it drop down and bolt it into place. 165 00:05:28,933 --> 00:05:30,866 So we get that little bit of height for the TV itself. 166 00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:33,900 So we're gonna go ahead and start lining the brackets up 167 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,300 and figure out what we need for hardware. 168 00:05:35,366 --> 00:05:38,166 ♪♪ 169 00:05:38,233 --> 00:05:39,433 And give that a shot. 170 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:41,200 Joanna: Thank you. Yeah. 171 00:05:41,266 --> 00:05:43,166 Heath: Just so it's snug, not quite tight yet. 172 00:05:43,233 --> 00:05:44,666 Joanna: Snug not tight. 173 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:53,500 ♪♪ 174 00:05:53,566 --> 00:05:55,233 Heath: Now it's time to install our power cords 175 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:56,900 and get everything organized inside here. 176 00:05:56,966 --> 00:05:58,066 So I'm going to start by installing 177 00:05:58,133 --> 00:05:59,266 this piece right here. 178 00:05:59,333 --> 00:06:00,800 Joanna: What is that? 179 00:06:00,866 --> 00:06:02,133 Heath: So that is a surge suppressor and power filter. 180 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,666 Keep all the equipment that we have in here 181 00:06:03,733 --> 00:06:05,333 and any future equipment protected. 182 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,133 So next we'll put the power cord in. 183 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,933 Joanna: And what's this power cord for? 184 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,433 Heath: So this is feeding our surge protector. 185 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,200 And then everything else will plug into this. 186 00:06:12,266 --> 00:06:13,766 This isn't necessarily ready for outdoors. 187 00:06:13,833 --> 00:06:15,333 This is. 188 00:06:16,533 --> 00:06:17,966 Joanna: So that's what we'll come out of... 189 00:06:18,033 --> 00:06:20,100 Heath: So this will come out. 190 00:06:20,166 --> 00:06:22,833 And just to kind of help ensure that we stay together, 191 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:24,200 we use this a lot for outdoor lighting 192 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:25,900 with Christmas lights and holiday lighting 193 00:06:25,966 --> 00:06:28,466 and other things to keep the moisture out. 194 00:06:28,533 --> 00:06:30,366 -Joanna: Nice and tight. -Heath: It'll be good to go. 195 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:32,533 Now let's see if we can line it up to our bolt holes. 196 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,300 ♪♪ 197 00:06:35,366 --> 00:06:37,800 -Joanna: There we go. Easy. -Heath: That's it. 198 00:06:37,866 --> 00:06:41,266 Now we'll pull the cord for the surge protector through. 199 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,366 And I just want to slide that back through like that. 200 00:06:45,433 --> 00:06:49,033 ♪♪ 201 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:51,233 You want to center the bracket on the housing unit. 202 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:52,933 Once center has been established, it's time 203 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,700 to locate a spot on the side of the house, 204 00:06:54,766 --> 00:06:57,000 remembering you want to place it on the studs. 205 00:06:57,066 --> 00:06:59,466 If we go right there, we can bolt it in cleanly. 206 00:06:59,533 --> 00:07:02,300 Seal this with silicone. Keep everything nice and sealed. 207 00:07:02,366 --> 00:07:04,733 Next, what I want to do is see how tall it is. 208 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,400 So that's 10 inches of mounting area. 209 00:07:06,466 --> 00:07:08,966 It should be bottom of bracket somewhere down here. 210 00:07:09,033 --> 00:07:10,533 With the space for the mount located, 211 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,600 it's time to find a spot for the new receptacle. 212 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:14,033 I'm just gonna do a little test hole down there. 213 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:15,900 That way, we can poke around 214 00:07:15,966 --> 00:07:17,833 and see what's there, any plumbing pipes, just in case. 215 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,366 I do this a lot for cutting a light box in the ceiling, 216 00:07:22,433 --> 00:07:24,333 just to give us an idea of where things are, 217 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,566 to make sure we're really going to clear what we want. 218 00:07:26,633 --> 00:07:31,766 ♪♪ 219 00:07:31,833 --> 00:07:33,233 That looks like we're pretty good. 220 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:34,200 -Joanna: Looks pretty good. -Heath: I can spin around, 221 00:07:34,266 --> 00:07:35,566 not hitting anything. 222 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:38,300 Now what we're going to do, this is the bracket 223 00:07:38,366 --> 00:07:41,266 that the receptacle's gonna actually slide into. 224 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:44,400 And then we'll just drive a couple of screws. 225 00:07:44,466 --> 00:07:48,166 [ Tool whirring ] 226 00:07:48,233 --> 00:07:55,266 ♪♪ 227 00:07:55,333 --> 00:08:02,333 ♪♪ 228 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,366 So the receptacle is wide open. 229 00:08:04,433 --> 00:08:06,233 So I think we're good. 230 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:07,966 Now that we have the location for the receptacle 231 00:08:08,033 --> 00:08:09,866 for the new TV, I'm going to go ahead 232 00:08:09,933 --> 00:08:13,566 and run the wire from the panel to the new receptacle location. 233 00:08:13,633 --> 00:08:15,466 We swapped out the existing breaker in the panel 234 00:08:15,533 --> 00:08:17,900 for a dual function AFCI/GFCI breaker 235 00:08:17,966 --> 00:08:20,000 that'll provide additional protection. 236 00:08:20,066 --> 00:08:21,900 This breaker will shut off the power to the circuit 237 00:08:21,966 --> 00:08:24,100 if any water gets in, making sure we prevent 238 00:08:24,166 --> 00:08:25,933 any electric shock. 239 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,166 Now it's time to install the box for the new receptacle. 240 00:08:29,366 --> 00:08:31,133 Putty is placed around the edge of the box 241 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,166 to create a watertight seal. 242 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:38,033 [ Drill whirring ] 243 00:08:45,066 --> 00:08:47,000 Time to wire the new receptacle. 244 00:08:47,066 --> 00:08:50,666 Ground first, then the neutral, and finally the hot wire. 245 00:08:56,766 --> 00:08:58,333 I still have a habit of taping my devices up. 246 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,366 We do it in metal boxes all the time, 247 00:09:00,433 --> 00:09:03,066 and it's kind of carried over, so it's just become a habit. 248 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:13,466 That's good. 249 00:09:13,533 --> 00:09:15,200 And the one thing to point out 250 00:09:15,266 --> 00:09:16,733 is this is a special receptacle for outside. 251 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,433 It is a weather resistant and tamper resistant receptacle. 252 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,733 It's designed to be out here in this box. 253 00:09:25,366 --> 00:09:27,800 We're just gonna go ahead and snap that cover back on. 254 00:09:27,866 --> 00:09:30,100 You just want to get it started right in there. 255 00:09:30,166 --> 00:09:31,433 Joanna: Okay. 256 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:32,866 Heath: We're using lag bolts to hang the mount 257 00:09:32,933 --> 00:09:35,166 to support the weight of the TV and the enclosure. 258 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,066 [ Drill whirring ] 259 00:09:40,166 --> 00:09:42,100 Before we send these home, I want to put a little silicone 260 00:09:42,166 --> 00:09:43,833 around them, so as it goes in, 261 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:47,166 it'll draw the silicone in and then kind of seal up against it. 262 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:53,566 A layer of silicone is added to the perimeter of the mount 263 00:09:53,633 --> 00:09:56,300 to help create a watertight seal. 264 00:09:56,366 --> 00:09:58,133 To hang the TV, the screws are aligned 265 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,166 to the mount and then tightened. 266 00:10:02,966 --> 00:10:05,166 Plug that in there. 267 00:10:05,233 --> 00:10:06,566 All right, Joanna. The power is on. 268 00:10:06,633 --> 00:10:08,466 Joanna: And it works! 269 00:10:08,533 --> 00:10:10,033 Heath: Oh, look at that. That's your favorite channel. 270 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:11,600 Look at that. -Joanna: Looks incredible. 271 00:10:11,666 --> 00:10:13,433 Heath: Well, I'm really happy with it. I hope you are. 272 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:14,966 Joanna: I am, too. 273 00:10:15,033 --> 00:10:16,766 I can't wait to sit out here and enjoy it with the family. 274 00:10:16,833 --> 00:10:18,066 Heath: All right, well, thanks again for writing in. 275 00:10:18,133 --> 00:10:19,100 Joanna: Thank you. 276 00:10:19,166 --> 00:10:25,766 ♪♪ 277 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,633 Kevin: Just the gentleman I wanted to talk to. 278 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:31,666 So how to think about starting a renovation, right? 279 00:10:31,733 --> 00:10:33,266 Lots to think about. 280 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:34,800 You're working with your builder. 281 00:10:34,866 --> 00:10:36,733 Like, how do you guys go through that process with the homeowner? 282 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,200 Tom: It depends on what type of project are you doing. 283 00:10:39,266 --> 00:10:41,033 Like, for example, this is a kitchen renovation. 284 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:42,666 So you're going to be without the kitchen. 285 00:10:42,733 --> 00:10:44,433 Are you going to live in the house, 286 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:46,000 or are you going to move out of the house? 287 00:10:46,066 --> 00:10:48,066 You also have to remember 288 00:10:48,133 --> 00:10:50,100 that the contractors are going to be at your house every day, 289 00:10:50,166 --> 00:10:52,700 bright and early, because this is their office. 290 00:10:52,766 --> 00:10:54,566 You leave to go to your office, 291 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:56,366 but they're coming to go to their office. 292 00:10:56,433 --> 00:10:57,666 -Kevin: Right. -Tom: So you got to be aware 293 00:10:57,733 --> 00:10:59,166 and prepare for that kind of stuff. 294 00:10:59,233 --> 00:11:01,066 Kevin: So prepare yourself, kind of get in the mind set 295 00:11:01,133 --> 00:11:02,633 that, okay, this is going to be disruptive. 296 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:04,233 Tom: It's very, very disruptive. 297 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:06,233 Kevin: You can come anytime you want, pops. 298 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:08,366 What do you think about next in your conversations? 299 00:11:08,433 --> 00:11:09,933 Zack: I mean, I think the big thing is 300 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,400 to start sort of very big picture. 301 00:11:12,466 --> 00:11:14,566 Like everyone wants to get specifics 302 00:11:14,633 --> 00:11:16,200 with types of countertops right away. 303 00:11:16,266 --> 00:11:17,533 But really what you want to understand 304 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,533 is, can you afford to do this project? 305 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,866 So in big scale, you know, we want to renovate a kitchen 306 00:11:23,933 --> 00:11:25,533 and you also have to broadly share 307 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,000 how much money you want to spend 308 00:11:27,066 --> 00:11:28,766 and share that with the people you're talking with, 309 00:11:28,833 --> 00:11:30,033 because you want to make sure you're sort of in 310 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:31,366 the right ballpark. 311 00:11:31,433 --> 00:11:32,833 Kevin: Because if you're two X away, 312 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,333 it's just probably going to fall apart and not really work. 313 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,566 Zack: Yeah, you're wasting everyone's time. 314 00:11:35,633 --> 00:11:37,333 Tom: Yeah, I mean, if you have a budget, 315 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,166 let's say your budget is $100,000, 316 00:11:39,233 --> 00:11:40,433 well, then your mind set, you should try to think of that 317 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,633 as like $80,000, $85,000. 318 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:44,666 Leave yourself a little cushion for things 319 00:11:44,733 --> 00:11:46,366 that may pop up, and they're going to pop up. 320 00:11:46,433 --> 00:11:48,000 You open up a wall. 321 00:11:48,066 --> 00:11:49,200 Oh, there's a structural problem. 322 00:11:49,266 --> 00:11:51,200 You got to deal with that. 323 00:11:51,266 --> 00:11:53,466 Oh, I want to change my countertop to something else. 324 00:11:53,533 --> 00:11:55,866 Well, you're going to spend probably your 325 00:11:55,933 --> 00:11:59,066 $80,000 or $100,000, but just be aware of it. 326 00:11:59,133 --> 00:12:01,166 And, you know, this is a big investment. 327 00:12:01,233 --> 00:12:03,233 Your home is your biggest investment that you make. 328 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:05,000 You want to make sure that you do it right. 329 00:12:05,066 --> 00:12:06,233 Kevin: Okay. Other things on your 330 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:07,800 list in those conversations? 331 00:12:07,866 --> 00:12:09,200 Zack: I think the major thing is understanding 332 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:10,700 how selections work. 333 00:12:10,766 --> 00:12:13,800 I think most homeowners think that they can sort of pick 334 00:12:13,866 --> 00:12:16,166 the tile when it's time to put in the tile 335 00:12:16,233 --> 00:12:18,633 and pick the counter when it's time to put in the counter. 336 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:20,433 And that's probably the worst thing 337 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:22,200 you can do for your budget and your timeline. 338 00:12:22,266 --> 00:12:23,566 And remember, if you're out of this house, 339 00:12:23,633 --> 00:12:25,466 you're paying rent somewhere else. 340 00:12:25,533 --> 00:12:27,800 So we really encourage people to not start the job 341 00:12:27,866 --> 00:12:29,800 until they're ready to finish the job. 342 00:12:29,866 --> 00:12:32,900 So basically, there's 500 decisions that need to be made 343 00:12:32,966 --> 00:12:35,666 to come up with the drawings like this, right? 344 00:12:35,733 --> 00:12:37,733 And there's got to be specifications about the types 345 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,766 of appliances, types of windows. 346 00:12:39,833 --> 00:12:41,466 All of those decisions need to be made 347 00:12:41,533 --> 00:12:43,333 before we can go off to permitting. 348 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,166 And you cannot skip one of those. 349 00:12:45,233 --> 00:12:47,333 Sure, you could maybe wait on paint colors, 350 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,433 window treatments and furniture, 351 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,900 but you can't be waiting on tile 352 00:12:51,966 --> 00:12:53,800 and, you know, appliances. 353 00:12:53,866 --> 00:12:56,033 Those things all need to be completely figured out well 354 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:57,566 before we show up with a tool. 355 00:12:57,633 --> 00:12:59,066 Kevin: Once you guys get started, 356 00:12:59,133 --> 00:13:01,200 you want to keep going nonstop. -Tom: Absolutely. 357 00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:02,433 Kevin: Don't let the homeowner give 358 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:03,966 the contractor a reason to stop, 359 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:06,066 because they can't find the tile that they were dreaming about. 360 00:13:06,133 --> 00:13:08,933 Tom: Well, it's like Zack said, we have a list of 500 things, 361 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,966 but we got a list of appliances. 362 00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:13,133 First of all, you want to know if you can buy those appliances. 363 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,566 Do you have to order them? 364 00:13:14,633 --> 00:13:18,366 Are you going to have to wait? If so, buy them early. 365 00:13:18,433 --> 00:13:19,933 If you have a tile that you're going to pick out 366 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 and you really like that tile, great. 367 00:13:22,066 --> 00:13:25,833 Pick out a second choice just in case you can't get that tile. 368 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:27,966 For some reason, it's stuck on a ship somewhere. 369 00:13:28,033 --> 00:13:29,266 Believe me, it's happened. 370 00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:30,766 Kevin: Speaking of timing, 371 00:13:30,833 --> 00:13:32,466 I mean, that makes me think about permitting, right? 372 00:13:32,533 --> 00:13:33,900 Because sometimes you have to pull a lot or few, 373 00:13:33,966 --> 00:13:35,133 but you do have to pull them. 374 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,266 And that can take time. 375 00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:37,633 Zack: Yeah. You do. 376 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:39,300 I mean, it looks different in every municipality, 377 00:13:39,366 --> 00:13:41,800 but basically how it works here in general is 378 00:13:41,866 --> 00:13:45,333 your sub trades like electrical, plumbing, mechanical, 379 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,833 they have their own specific trades. 380 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:48,900 So if you're doing a small job, 381 00:13:48,966 --> 00:13:50,533 like swapping a water heater, they'll pull them themselves. 382 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,466 If you're doing a whole big house, 383 00:13:52,533 --> 00:13:55,100 then a general contractor like us 384 00:13:55,166 --> 00:13:58,333 is going to sort of handle all of that. 385 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,600 Tom: Yeah, they're going to pull, 386 00:13:59,666 --> 00:14:01,100 we're going to pull the main permit. 387 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:02,933 And then the plumbers or the electricians 388 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,300 are going to go in and feed off of that permit. 389 00:14:05,366 --> 00:14:07,033 Kevin: But are we talking about like a lot? 390 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:08,800 Are we talking about long term? 391 00:14:08,866 --> 00:14:11,166 How long can a permitting process take me? 392 00:14:11,233 --> 00:14:13,600 Tom: It could take four weeks, six weeks, basic. 393 00:14:13,666 --> 00:14:15,966 But then it depends on what's going to happen. 394 00:14:16,033 --> 00:14:17,800 This is inside the house. This is the kitchen. 395 00:14:17,866 --> 00:14:19,700 You're not changing the footprint at all. 396 00:14:19,766 --> 00:14:22,066 If you change the footprint, do you need an easement? 397 00:14:22,133 --> 00:14:23,966 Are you going to be too close to the lot line? 398 00:14:24,033 --> 00:14:25,866 What about conservation? 399 00:14:25,933 --> 00:14:28,366 All of those things make a difference timing wise. 400 00:14:28,433 --> 00:14:32,500 So, you know, it could take a year, year and a half sometimes. 401 00:14:32,566 --> 00:14:33,800 -Kevin: Yeah. -Zack: Yeah. 402 00:14:33,866 --> 00:14:35,133 -Tom: It's crazy. -Zack: If you're touching 403 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,300 the outside of the house, leave more time. 404 00:14:37,366 --> 00:14:38,300 Tom: Are you going to deal with the historical committee, 405 00:14:38,366 --> 00:14:39,833 all of those things. 406 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:40,933 Then you got to wait for that, so... 407 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Kevin: Okay, lots to think about, 408 00:14:42,866 --> 00:14:44,300 but thank you, guys. -Tom: A lot. 409 00:14:44,366 --> 00:14:45,466 Kevin: Good information. 410 00:14:45,533 --> 00:14:52,766 ♪♪ 411 00:14:52,833 --> 00:14:53,900 -Mark: Marcos. -Marcos: Hey, my friend. 412 00:14:53,966 --> 00:14:55,866 -How are you? -Mark: I'm doing great. 413 00:14:55,933 --> 00:14:57,333 How are you? -Marcos: Nice having you here. 414 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,033 Mark: All right. My pleasure. Of course. 415 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:02,533 I love the backyard. I love this patio. 416 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,133 Mother nature, right out by the fence over there. 417 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,333 You can't beat it. 418 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,733 Marcos: That's why we moved here. 419 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,266 Mark: Oh, great. But you wrote me about a fire pit. 420 00:15:09,333 --> 00:15:10,400 Marcos: I did, yeah. 421 00:15:10,466 --> 00:15:11,966 Mark: Why don't we, uh, check it out? 422 00:15:12,033 --> 00:15:13,866 I love it right off the bat, actually. 423 00:15:13,933 --> 00:15:15,133 I can see that there's a little bit of repair work 424 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,300 that you guys -- -Marcos: I did that myself. 425 00:15:17,366 --> 00:15:18,766 -Mark: Okay. -Marcos: You can tell 426 00:15:18,833 --> 00:15:20,166 it's not okay. 427 00:15:20,233 --> 00:15:21,866 Mark: Okay. So are you thinking about another repair, 428 00:15:21,933 --> 00:15:23,833 or do you want to do something brand new? 429 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:26,766 Marcos: If we go for brand new, it would be would be great. 430 00:15:26,833 --> 00:15:29,433 Like almost same shape, rectangular. 431 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,900 Mark: Okay, so when I came through the backyard, 432 00:15:31,966 --> 00:15:35,066 the first thing that grabbed my eye was this patio. 433 00:15:35,133 --> 00:15:37,066 I love the granite. 434 00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:39,733 I love the fact that you mixed a couple different colors in here. 435 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,966 I actually have some similar material 436 00:15:42,033 --> 00:15:44,166 that might match that really, really well. 437 00:15:44,233 --> 00:15:46,066 Marcos: That would be beautiful. 438 00:15:46,133 --> 00:15:47,833 Mark: And first thing we have to do is get rid of this guy. 439 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:49,600 Marcos: Yeah, absolutely. 440 00:15:49,666 --> 00:15:51,466 Mark: Yep, yep. I have some tools in the back. 441 00:15:51,533 --> 00:15:53,400 Why don't we grab them and start hammering away? 442 00:15:53,466 --> 00:15:54,766 -Marcos: I'm here, too. -Mark: All right. 443 00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:56,233 Marcos: I can't wait, I can't wait. 444 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:57,266 Mark: Okay. Let's go. 445 00:15:57,333 --> 00:16:00,633 ♪♪ 446 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:02,300 All right. A little tougher than I thought. 447 00:16:02,366 --> 00:16:04,500 -Marcos: Yeah. -Mark: That's okay though. 448 00:16:04,566 --> 00:16:10,000 ♪♪ 449 00:16:10,066 --> 00:16:12,300 That whole corner wants to go. 450 00:16:12,366 --> 00:16:14,666 Good job, Marcos. 451 00:16:16,233 --> 00:16:17,766 Here's a nice rock. 452 00:16:17,833 --> 00:16:25,166 ♪♪ 453 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:27,300 All right, that might be it. 454 00:16:27,366 --> 00:16:28,766 I'll take this one, Marcos. 455 00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:33,933 Okay, Marcos. 456 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,966 -Marcos: Yes, my friend. -Mark: This is the granite. 457 00:16:36,033 --> 00:16:37,400 Marcos: Yeah. 458 00:16:37,466 --> 00:16:39,633 Mark: As you can see, we have a nice rock face edge. 459 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:41,800 I think that gives the stone character. 460 00:16:41,866 --> 00:16:44,233 The coloration of the stone is going to match one 461 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:46,733 of your pieces of granite here, so I like that. 462 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,366 Marcos: I have a question. I see this one piece. 463 00:16:49,433 --> 00:16:50,366 -Mark: Yeah. -Marcos: With the heat, 464 00:16:50,433 --> 00:16:52,433 it will not gonna crack or... 465 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:54,366 Mark: We picked this granite on purpose. 466 00:16:54,433 --> 00:16:56,300 You can see how big and bulky this is. 467 00:16:56,366 --> 00:16:57,933 It's going to take the heat, 468 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,500 but we are going to do a few things 469 00:16:59,566 --> 00:17:01,266 to prevent that from happening. 470 00:17:01,333 --> 00:17:04,333 So the reason we don't put this in concrete is 471 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,466 because it stabilizes it too much. 472 00:17:06,533 --> 00:17:09,266 And when the heat kind of blows this granite up, 473 00:17:09,333 --> 00:17:11,066 it has nowhere to go. 474 00:17:11,133 --> 00:17:12,900 So that's why we're going to continue to use the gravel 475 00:17:12,966 --> 00:17:15,533 or crushed stone bed that's under these pavers 476 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,933 and go from there. 477 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,466 The other thing that we're going to do 478 00:17:18,533 --> 00:17:22,033 that's going to help alleviate that cracking, if you will, 479 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:24,300 is we're not going to put any masonry joints. 480 00:17:24,366 --> 00:17:25,866 -Marcos: Small gap. -Mark: That's right. 481 00:17:25,933 --> 00:17:27,400 There's going to be a gap there, 482 00:17:27,466 --> 00:17:28,833 and it's going to let this stone breathe a little bit. 483 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:30,400 So when the heat does hit it, 484 00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:32,166 it's going to expand a little bit. 485 00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:34,566 But we're going to give it the room to do so. 486 00:17:34,633 --> 00:17:36,500 -Marcos: Nice. That makes sense. -Mark: Right. 487 00:17:36,566 --> 00:17:38,366 Marcos: That makes sense. 488 00:17:38,433 --> 00:17:41,100 Mark: You were about 12 or 13 inches off of the patio before. 489 00:17:41,166 --> 00:17:42,633 We're going to give you that. 490 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:44,066 We can even give you a little more if you like, 491 00:17:44,133 --> 00:17:45,633 but that's where we'll start... 492 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:46,933 -Marcos: Beautiful. -Mark: ...is 12 or 13 inches 493 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,233 in height. 494 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:49,600 Again, that's the way it's going to look. 495 00:17:49,666 --> 00:17:52,200 Marcos: I appreciate that. That will be awesome. 496 00:17:52,266 --> 00:17:54,066 Mark: Time to dig. 497 00:17:54,133 --> 00:17:57,100 So what I think I'm going to do, we have to go 12 inches deep. 498 00:17:57,166 --> 00:17:58,666 -Marcos: Yeah. -Mark: Around the perimeter, 499 00:17:58,733 --> 00:18:00,000 we're going to want to put a gravel 500 00:18:00,066 --> 00:18:01,566 or crushed stone in there. 501 00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:04,166 That'll support the new fire pit. 502 00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:07,866 Uh, and the way we're going to do that is I'll take the pick, 503 00:18:07,933 --> 00:18:09,500 I'll get into the ground. 504 00:18:09,566 --> 00:18:11,200 I'm going to work myself backwards 505 00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:12,766 and around that corner. 506 00:18:12,833 --> 00:18:15,400 And all you do is follow me with the shovel and the wheelbarrow. 507 00:18:15,466 --> 00:18:16,666 All right. -Marcos: Got it. 508 00:18:16,733 --> 00:18:20,166 Mark: So give me a... 509 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:21,500 Safety first, Marcos. 510 00:18:21,566 --> 00:18:22,866 Marcos: I give you all the space. 511 00:18:22,933 --> 00:18:25,433 Mark: Yep. Thank you, sir. 512 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,866 And I'll just churn this up. 513 00:18:28,366 --> 00:18:29,800 Marcos: Nice. 514 00:18:29,866 --> 00:18:33,900 ♪♪ 515 00:18:33,966 --> 00:18:35,700 Mark: Oh, yeah. 516 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,500 But actually, it's picking up pretty well, so... 517 00:18:38,566 --> 00:18:46,433 ♪♪ 518 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:49,000 All right, Marcos, I might run that one out. 519 00:18:49,066 --> 00:18:58,400 ♪♪ 520 00:18:58,466 --> 00:19:01,133 -All right, Marcos. So the digging is now done. 521 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,433 We ended up going over a foot just 522 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:06,733 because I wanted to get to certain conditions that I like. 523 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,733 That's actually hard clay back down there. 524 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,600 So that's what we like. 525 00:19:10,666 --> 00:19:13,133 And now all we have to do is bring the gravel in. 526 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,700 As we bring the gravel in, we're going to compact it 527 00:19:15,766 --> 00:19:18,733 as we go to make sure it's nice and solid. 528 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,700 Why do we need it solid? 529 00:19:20,766 --> 00:19:23,366 Because it's going to act as a base for these big stones. 530 00:19:23,433 --> 00:19:25,266 So we want it nice and solid, 531 00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:27,466 but we're also going to want it for drainage. 532 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:30,666 So let's get a wheelbarrow and get the gravel going. 533 00:19:51,766 --> 00:19:54,333 All right, I just want to make sure everything is level 534 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,366 and then bring in the stones. 535 00:19:56,433 --> 00:19:58,966 Now that the hard part is done, right, all the digging, 536 00:19:59,033 --> 00:20:02,600 we get the easy part of moving these stones into place. 537 00:20:02,666 --> 00:20:05,733 Marcos: You kidding me? I want to enjoy the fire pit. 538 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,300 I don't want to break my back, man. 539 00:20:07,366 --> 00:20:08,800 Come on. -[ Mark laughs ] 540 00:20:08,866 --> 00:20:10,533 Mark: Well, hopefully this goes smoothly. 541 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,666 So we're going to take these two pieces. 542 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,133 We're going to go this way. -Marcos: Me and you? 543 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,066 -Mark: Me and you. -Marcos: Ay, yah. 544 00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:17,966 Mark: And then we're going to take the two small ends, 545 00:20:18,033 --> 00:20:20,900 we call them the bookends and climb them in. 546 00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:22,233 -Marcos: Okay. -Mark: And I'm kidding. 547 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:24,433 -Marcos: You start. -Mark: Yeah. Right. Okay. 548 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:27,166 So I actually brought some help with me today. 549 00:20:27,233 --> 00:20:28,900 Only because I know we would need it. 550 00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:30,933 Marcos: I thought you was... you was kidding. 551 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,266 Okay. 552 00:20:32,333 --> 00:20:33,533 Mark: So we'll go call the guys. 553 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,133 Marcos: Yeah. 554 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Mark: Guys! 555 00:20:37,666 --> 00:20:40,466 I have these butt ends of the pieces of granite 556 00:20:40,533 --> 00:20:42,366 that are going to go into the other piece of granite, 557 00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:44,233 and I want to make sure they're as tight as possible. 558 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:46,933 So I want to take the high points off. 559 00:20:48,233 --> 00:20:49,400 Scrap them up. 560 00:20:49,466 --> 00:20:51,400 Marcos, I guess we just get out of the way. 561 00:20:51,466 --> 00:20:52,933 -Marcos: Yeah, man. -Mark: With this, yeah. 562 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,600 Let these guys do their thing. 563 00:20:55,666 --> 00:20:58,066 Great. All right, now walk the dog back. 564 00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:00,800 Watch your bubble, Fred. Right there. 565 00:21:00,866 --> 00:21:03,133 All right, one down, three to go. 566 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,333 ♪♪ 567 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,333 You guys are good. 568 00:21:11,266 --> 00:21:13,700 Try that. 569 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:15,900 There we go. 570 00:21:18,633 --> 00:21:20,600 All right, Marcos, one more piece left. 571 00:21:20,666 --> 00:21:22,266 What do you think? -Marcos: It's beautiful. 572 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:23,933 -Mark All right. -Marcos: One more piece? 573 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,133 -Mark: One more. -Marcos: And we're done. 574 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,033 -Mark: We're done. -Marcos: Very good. 575 00:21:29,266 --> 00:21:30,800 You guys are good! 576 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,866 All right, Marcos. Stones are in. 577 00:21:36,933 --> 00:21:39,133 We backfilled all the way around the stones. 578 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,066 The one last step that we do have to do 579 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,366 is just install this lava rock. 580 00:21:43,433 --> 00:21:45,733 So when you build a fire and the fire goes out, 581 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,133 it'll still emanate throughout. 582 00:21:50,766 --> 00:21:52,866 Marcos: There we go. It looks very good. 583 00:21:52,933 --> 00:21:54,900 -Mark: Yeah. This is good. -Marcos: Yeah. 584 00:21:54,966 --> 00:21:57,100 Mark: All right, Marcos, I have a little bit of homework for 585 00:21:57,166 --> 00:21:59,300 you, if so desired, 586 00:21:59,366 --> 00:22:01,000 and you want a screen to cover this, 587 00:22:01,066 --> 00:22:03,100 they do make them, so just look it up. 588 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:05,566 Yep. The other thing I need you to do 589 00:22:05,633 --> 00:22:07,200 is just sprinkle some grass seed on the back 590 00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:08,533 where we backfilled them. 591 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,633 -Marcos: I have them. -Mark: Yep. Okay, great. 592 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:13,166 Other than that, all you have to do is light a fire. 593 00:22:13,233 --> 00:22:15,333 Marcos: Thank you so much. It's beautiful. 594 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,800 It is really beautiful. -Mark: Okay. 595 00:22:16,866 --> 00:22:18,500 -Marcos: Thank you. -Mark: Glad you're happy. 596 00:22:18,566 --> 00:22:19,633 -Marcos: Thank you. -Mark: All right. 597 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:21,033 Marcos: Thank you, man. 598 00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:22,400 Mark: And if you have questions about your house, 599 00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:24,933 keep them coming because we'd love to hear from you. 600 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,666 Until next time, 601 00:22:26,733 --> 00:22:29,166 I'm Mark McCullough for "Ask This Old House."