1 00:00:04,399 --> 00:00:18,033 ♪ 2 00:00:18,067 --> 00:00:22,700 There is no feeling like having two hundred pairs of eyes 3 00:00:22,734 --> 00:00:25,000 wrapped on you and what you're doing. 4 00:00:25,033 --> 00:00:27,967 I really like how I could expose myself like that 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,901 and then people cheering me to expose myself. 6 00:00:30,934 --> 00:00:33,699 You are a man, you are a woman, you are in-between, 7 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:34,500 I don't care. 8 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:36,234 Strippers do get a lot of sex. 9 00:00:36,267 --> 00:00:38,234 That's what you want to do? Do it! 10 00:00:38,267 --> 00:00:41,001 You have people who are natural voyeurs and exhibitionists. 11 00:00:41,034 --> 00:00:44,000 It's been thirteen days since showed a random person my dick. 12 00:00:44,033 --> 00:00:45,701 That's way too long for me. 13 00:00:45,734 --> 00:00:47,200 For the cross-dresser or the transsexual, 14 00:00:47,234 --> 00:00:48,601 it gets a little murky. 15 00:00:48,634 --> 00:00:50,600 I like being onstage. I like dressing up. 16 00:00:50,634 --> 00:00:53,467 He's addicted to that drug, whether he admits it or not. 17 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:55,299 What Mom doesn't know won't hurt her. 18 00:00:55,332 --> 00:01:05,367 ♪ 19 00:01:05,367 --> 00:01:22,434 ♪ 20 00:01:22,467 --> 00:01:28,001 I am The King! Everybody look at me! 21 00:01:28,035 --> 00:01:32,567 I'm Bronco. I'm thirty years old. And I'm a stripper. 22 00:01:32,601 --> 00:01:35,767 I like being onstage. I like dressing up. I like dancing. 23 00:01:35,801 --> 00:01:39,100 I like putting smiles on people's faces. 24 00:01:39,134 --> 00:01:40,267 You're entertaining. 25 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:44,733 So, it is pretty cool. 26 00:01:47,368 --> 00:01:49,334 Is he a stripper for women or men? 27 00:01:49,367 --> 00:01:50,600 This texter wants to know. 28 00:01:50,634 --> 00:01:52,100 Right now it's just for men. 29 00:01:52,133 --> 00:01:53,134 It's a gay club? 30 00:01:53,167 --> 00:01:54,268 It's a gay club. 31 00:01:54,302 --> 00:01:56,534 So, I've danced for women, I've danced for men, 32 00:01:56,567 --> 00:01:57,800 I've danced for both. 33 00:01:57,834 --> 00:01:59,200 Which do you like better? 34 00:01:59,234 --> 00:02:02,333 Uhhhh.... well, it varies. I like variety. 35 00:02:04,367 --> 00:02:06,400 My name is Gabriel. I'm twenty-six years old. 36 00:02:06,433 --> 00:02:08,666 And I'm a stripper. 37 00:02:10,334 --> 00:02:13,067 Onstage I give all I have, you know. 38 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:14,667 Each dance is like my last. 39 00:02:14,701 --> 00:02:19,034 I'll do pole tricks, I'll, you know, really move around, 40 00:02:19,067 --> 00:02:21,900 let the music, you know, make me move, you know? 41 00:02:21,933 --> 00:02:22,834 Penetrate you. 42 00:02:22,867 --> 00:02:26,233 Yeah! Penetrate me... yeah, good term! 43 00:02:31,034 --> 00:02:33,001 I've been dancing for almost six... seven years. 44 00:02:33,034 --> 00:02:36,267 And I've got three titles. Like, I'm a seasoned veteran almost. 45 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:39,400 Damian, Jeremy, The King and Andre: 46 00:02:39,433 --> 00:02:41,000 the five best guys around. 47 00:02:41,033 --> 00:02:42,367 Like, we're really, really good. 48 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,766 Our shows are tight. Our shapes are tight. 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,734 Everything's perfect. 50 00:02:45,767 --> 00:02:47,566 I think we're going to have a great night. 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,267 Yeah. 52 00:02:48,301 --> 00:02:49,368 Should we get a Whoa, Bundy? 53 00:02:49,402 --> 00:02:51,600 You guys didn't watch "Married With Children" as kids? 54 00:02:51,634 --> 00:02:54,800 EVERYONE: Whoa, Bundy! 55 00:02:54,833 --> 00:02:55,901 Andre's Jamaican. 56 00:02:55,934 --> 00:02:57,901 He brings in his American and Jamaican style. 57 00:02:57,934 --> 00:03:00,666 Jeremy's going to put in his hip-hop and bad boy style. 58 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:03,067 Damian is a big, big muscle guy. 59 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,067 And then... I'm actually bringing a surprise. 60 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:07,366 Did you know we could smoke joints back then? 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,533 They showed me a room with a fan. 62 00:03:09,567 --> 00:03:11,800 I've been to strip clubs where it's for women. 63 00:03:11,834 --> 00:03:14,967 So males for women. And I find that the women are wild. 64 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,567 (women screaming) 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,167 All those girls, they all want me. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,067 I've done a show for all women. 67 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:24,300 You just walked inside the bar and they started screaming. 68 00:03:24,333 --> 00:03:25,867 And they would steal our clothes. 69 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:29,200 So, yeah, women are insane! 70 00:03:29,234 --> 00:03:31,667 Strippers do get a lot of sex. 71 00:03:31,701 --> 00:03:34,600 A corporal or a sergeant has stripes or chevrons 72 00:03:34,633 --> 00:03:37,067 on their blazer or jacket... 73 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:39,567 y'know, a stripper gets a "stripe". 74 00:03:39,601 --> 00:03:42,933 If you make a hundred dollars onstage, that's a stripe. 75 00:03:42,967 --> 00:03:44,933 Getting a (beep) in the corner. 76 00:03:44,967 --> 00:03:46,866 Having sex with someone in the corner. 77 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:48,067 That's a stripe. 78 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:50,066 How many stripes do I have, you ask? 79 00:03:50,099 --> 00:03:51,067 I have a lot. 80 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:52,366 She's like, "No, no, no." 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,633 I'm like, "Oh, relax, babe." 82 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,333 You know, this and that. Relax. 83 00:03:55,367 --> 00:03:57,600 Any time a guy tells you to relax, run! 84 00:03:57,633 --> 00:04:00,800 Yeah, your underwear and your pants are gone! 85 00:04:00,834 --> 00:04:04,800 I remember seeing girl on a barstool masturbating. 86 00:04:04,834 --> 00:04:08,368 I've seen this! 87 00:04:08,401 --> 00:04:10,734 I think women go nuts with male strippers 88 00:04:10,767 --> 00:04:12,667 because they feel free to do so. 89 00:04:12,701 --> 00:04:14,701 I don't know if it's the same thing 90 00:04:14,734 --> 00:04:16,234 in the gay male strip clubs. 91 00:04:16,267 --> 00:04:18,400 They're not ripping your clothes off. 92 00:04:18,433 --> 00:04:20,167 Well, some of them are. 93 00:04:20,201 --> 00:04:23,634 I tend to think that wome enjoy strip clubs more in a fun, 94 00:04:23,668 --> 00:04:25,501 night-out-with-the-girls kind of thing, 95 00:04:25,534 --> 00:04:27,534 whereas men are in it for sexual release. 96 00:04:27,568 --> 00:04:29,335 I think I would agree with that. 97 00:04:29,368 --> 00:04:32,101 I agree, women are ther for fun--the girls that I know. 98 00:04:32,134 --> 00:04:35,101 But it's not always about sexual release for men. I've got lots 99 00:04:35,135 --> 00:04:37,601 of regular clients that would just love the affection. 100 00:04:37,635 --> 00:04:41,034 I would sit on their lap and kind of play in their hair. 101 00:04:41,068 --> 00:04:43,101 And those were the highest paying clients. 102 00:04:43,134 --> 00:04:46,334 They want to be held. They want to be loved. 103 00:04:46,368 --> 00:04:49,334 When I'm stripping, I'm Bronco. I put on a mask. 104 00:04:49,368 --> 00:04:50,901 I'm that badass that girls... everyone... 105 00:04:50,934 --> 00:04:54,601 everyone wants and, you know, I'm that dude. 106 00:04:54,635 --> 00:04:57,834 The moment I leave that bar, I'm Brendan again. 107 00:04:57,867 --> 00:05:00,368 I'm just me. I'm a small town guy. 108 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:04,533 You're not going to see Bronco for another week. 109 00:05:04,567 --> 00:05:07,301 I grew up in a traditional Canadian home. 110 00:05:07,334 --> 00:05:09,167 Hockey being the biggest sport around, 111 00:05:09,201 --> 00:05:11,434 my dad is a goalie, my grandfather's a goalie, 112 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:14,867 my uncle's a goalie. I remember, though, we were so, so poor 113 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:17,234 we couldn't afford hockey equipment. The first time I 114 00:05:17,268 --> 00:05:20,033 got hockey equipment we got it all at The Salvation Army. 115 00:05:20,067 --> 00:05:22,334 I was so excited. I was going to the 116 00:05:22,368 --> 00:05:24,901 gym and on the ice in the mornings before school. 117 00:05:24,934 --> 00:05:27,734 My goal was to just get better and better and better. 118 00:05:27,767 --> 00:05:31,534 I made a Triple A team in the city and at the age of fifteen 119 00:05:31,567 --> 00:05:32,867 I started teaching ice hockey. 120 00:05:32,901 --> 00:05:35,734 Um, power skating, goalie schools... 121 00:05:35,767 --> 00:05:39,167 You wonder if any of these kids will grow up to be strippers 122 00:05:39,201 --> 00:05:41,166 instead of hockey players when they grow up. 123 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:54,167 ♪ 124 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,334 When I first met Laila, I thought she was gorgeous and 125 00:05:58,367 --> 00:06:01,501 she would wear these really, really revealing outfits. 126 00:06:01,534 --> 00:06:04,267 I was her stripper. I was dancing, she was a client, 127 00:06:04,301 --> 00:06:07,900 but just like, I wanted to have her, you know? 128 00:06:07,933 --> 00:06:09,733 I remember one day she came in, 129 00:06:09,767 --> 00:06:12,567 she was dressed like a gothic vampire. 130 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,834 I found that so attractive. 131 00:06:14,867 --> 00:06:17,734 I met Gabriel, at first, he was working as a stripper. 132 00:06:17,767 --> 00:06:21,033 He's the one who came to me and it was kind of surprising. 133 00:06:21,067 --> 00:06:24,033 For the first year that I knew her she was a client. 134 00:06:24,066 --> 00:06:25,367 She would come by and 135 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,367 I'd dance for her and we'd do things. Like we'd go have 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,166 a meal together or something, you know? 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,167 But nothing much was happening. 138 00:06:32,201 --> 00:06:34,234 Have you noticed that sometimes people are just, 139 00:06:34,267 --> 00:06:36,267 you know, uncomfortable with the fact that I'm... 140 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:38,000 I'm your girlfriend? 141 00:06:38,034 --> 00:06:40,166 At the beginning of our relationship 142 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:41,667 it was very fragile. 143 00:06:41,701 --> 00:06:44,200 All my friends like her. They all think she's great. 144 00:06:44,234 --> 00:06:47,267 Fans, on the other hand, tend to misunderstand. 145 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:51,600 When I was a stripper, people used to be openly aggressive. 146 00:06:51,633 --> 00:06:55,000 Sometimes people say that famous guys or girls 147 00:06:55,033 --> 00:06:58,500 are supposed to be with, you know, some people like, 148 00:06:58,533 --> 00:07:00,467 You know, like... not like me. 149 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:03,901 When they tell I'm with a woman, they picture this 18 year old 150 00:07:03,934 --> 00:07:07,068 hundred pound blonde cheerleader of some kind, you know? 151 00:07:07,101 --> 00:07:09,867 And then they see her and like, well, "What the hell? 152 00:07:09,901 --> 00:07:12,201 She's not.." you know, "She's not a Top Model." 153 00:07:12,234 --> 00:07:13,968 I'm chubby. I' taller than you. 154 00:07:14,001 --> 00:07:16,467 I'm a little bit stronger like ah... for a girl. 155 00:07:16,501 --> 00:07:17,734 You're not stronger than me. 156 00:07:17,767 --> 00:07:19,668 No, no, no no... I know. 157 00:07:19,701 --> 00:07:23,001 I (beep) many 18 year old cheerleaders, you know? 158 00:07:23,035 --> 00:07:26,468 And I don't feel like spendin more than that night with them. 159 00:07:26,501 --> 00:07:29,134 While her, I can spend the entire day doing nothing. 160 00:07:29,167 --> 00:07:30,401 And it feels great. 161 00:07:30,435 --> 00:07:33,334 You've seen me chained up. You've seen me... 162 00:07:33,368 --> 00:07:35,335 Yeah but--but in the show-- it was a-- 163 00:07:35,368 --> 00:07:37,367 ...doing my show with the goddam handcuffs. (laughs) 164 00:07:37,401 --> 00:07:39,034 ...it was a show. (laughs) 165 00:07:39,067 --> 00:07:42,368 Yeah, and then I'm shy around certain people. 166 00:07:42,401 --> 00:07:45,068 "Call Me Maybe"? Here's my number... 167 00:07:45,101 --> 00:07:49,501 (both sing) so call me, maybe. (laughter) 168 00:07:49,534 --> 00:07:52,267 Miles. He was asking if we were still together. 169 00:07:52,301 --> 00:07:54,334 That's hard... hard to hear. 170 00:07:54,367 --> 00:07:57,768 But, you know, as long as you know that the other person loves 171 00:07:57,801 --> 00:08:01,434 you for who you are, you can face anything. 172 00:08:01,467 --> 00:08:06,533 I got a hard time to know you like as you are, exactly. 173 00:08:06,567 --> 00:08:08,534 Well, you were my client at first, remember? 174 00:08:08,568 --> 00:08:11,300 And I told you, "I don't want to know the dancer. 175 00:08:11,333 --> 00:08:14,034 I just want to know the man behind." 176 00:08:14,067 --> 00:08:17,633 When I met her and she told me she that was an escort, 177 00:08:17,667 --> 00:08:20,401 ahhmmm... I mean, I couldn't care less. 178 00:08:20,434 --> 00:08:25,133 I do run an escort agency, so I take care of a couple of girls 179 00:08:25,167 --> 00:08:27,967 and also we have customers and everything. 180 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,001 Laila runs the best escort agency for both clients and 181 00:08:33,034 --> 00:08:37,000 escorts themselves cuz there are lots of bad escort agencies 182 00:08:37,034 --> 00:08:38,534 and pimps, like we call them. 183 00:08:38,567 --> 00:08:40,933 She's worked with people that had lots of problems 184 00:08:40,967 --> 00:08:42,367 and gave them a chance. 185 00:08:42,401 --> 00:08:45,000 So I find that she's very honourable. 186 00:08:45,033 --> 00:08:47,700 I was trying to run away cuz I didn't know 187 00:08:47,733 --> 00:08:50,734 what was your intention after that. 188 00:08:50,767 --> 00:08:53,267 I think you dumped me about ten times. 189 00:08:53,301 --> 00:08:54,867 There's no love without romance. 190 00:08:54,901 --> 00:08:59,767 There's no romance without true emotion. 191 00:08:59,801 --> 00:09:02,600 So you grabbed my hand, and you say, "Stay." 192 00:09:02,633 --> 00:09:05,667 And that's the day, you gave me the ring to say 193 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:06,433 The promise ring. 194 00:09:06,466 --> 00:09:07,399 Yeah. 195 00:09:14,033 --> 00:09:14,833 ♪ 196 00:09:14,866 --> 00:09:15,599 Stop flexing the... 197 00:09:15,633 --> 00:09:16,667 That comes naturally. 198 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:19,633 You are a man. You are a woman. You are in between. 199 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:20,701 I don't care. 200 00:09:20,734 --> 00:09:22,633 You're holding the power of this whole audience. 201 00:09:22,666 --> 00:09:23,500 It's intoxicating. 202 00:09:23,533 --> 00:09:25,067 Like, I also did porn videos. 203 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:26,966 You're... you're a porn star. 204 00:09:26,999 --> 00:09:28,833 ♪ 205 00:09:30,966 --> 00:09:33,600 ♪ 206 00:09:33,633 --> 00:09:36,634 (women screaming) 207 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:40,133 When I first started dancing in 2006 I was entered into 208 00:09:40,167 --> 00:09:43,833 a Mr. C.H.I.N. contest. There was, like, 26 contestants. 209 00:09:43,866 --> 00:09:45,767 It's about physique, personality-- 210 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,500 it's the whole package. And I won that. 211 00:09:48,534 --> 00:09:51,834 I entered The Ultimate Trojan Man Search and I won that. 212 00:09:51,867 --> 00:09:55,367 And then, I was in Jamaica and I competed for the Mr. Hedonism 213 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,200 and I'm competing against America's Most Wanted-- 214 00:09:57,234 --> 00:09:59,233 it's a tour that travels in the States. 215 00:09:59,267 --> 00:10:01,634 They're probably the best strippers I've ever seen. 216 00:10:01,667 --> 00:10:05,233 Like, these guys are big, black, muscular... 217 00:10:05,266 --> 00:10:07,400 they've got (laughs) huge dicks. 218 00:10:07,434 --> 00:10:09,700 Like, but they're amazing showmen. So, the fact that 219 00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:15,300 I won against them, it says a lot about my skills. 220 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:19,066 So, you're 26 years old. Are you married? Are you single? 221 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,633 Are you gay? Are you straight? 222 00:10:20,666 --> 00:10:21,467 Who's Gabriel? 223 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,000 Well, first of all, I'm bisexual. 224 00:10:23,033 --> 00:10:24,900 People are thinking, "Okay, bisexual... 225 00:10:24,933 --> 00:10:27,300 that means you chose. You made a choice." 226 00:10:27,334 --> 00:10:28,833 I don't think it's a choice. 227 00:10:28,866 --> 00:10:30,834 Oh, you don't do it like that? No? 228 00:10:30,867 --> 00:10:32,733 No. I'm attracted to men and women. 229 00:10:32,767 --> 00:10:35,734 I've had a boyfriend in the past. Now I have a girlfriend. 230 00:10:35,767 --> 00:10:39,067 There's no such thing as "in the middle" and I think when people 231 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:41,534 think "bisexual", they think, "It's half of this 232 00:10:41,567 --> 00:10:43,200 and half of that.", you know. 233 00:10:43,234 --> 00:10:47,833 But orientation is not straight or gay. Or bi. 234 00:10:47,866 --> 00:10:49,100 It doesn't work like that. 235 00:10:49,133 --> 00:10:51,100 When did you know you were bisexual? 236 00:10:51,133 --> 00:10:54,000 Ever since I was a teenager I knew I was bisexual. 237 00:10:54,033 --> 00:10:56,534 I mean, I didn't explore it until I got nineteen... 238 00:10:56,567 --> 00:10:58,534 Just cuz I didn't want to be judged, 239 00:10:58,567 --> 00:11:01,334 you know, and I thought people would label me or something. 240 00:11:01,367 --> 00:11:03,034 Especially bisexuality, right? 241 00:11:03,067 --> 00:11:06,234 It's one of those orientations that the gay world tells you, 242 00:11:06,268 --> 00:11:08,301 "Ah, you're just not out of the closet!" 243 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:10,301 And the straight world says, "Oh no, 244 00:11:10,334 --> 00:11:12,068 you really just haven't actually come out." 245 00:11:12,101 --> 00:11:13,868 I think it's still quite misunderstood, right? 246 00:11:13,901 --> 00:11:17,168 Oh yeah, and especially as a stripper you get a lot of people 247 00:11:17,201 --> 00:11:19,168 that will think that I'm "gay for pay". 248 00:11:19,201 --> 00:11:22,034 Well, that's a straight guy --straight stripper-- 249 00:11:22,067 --> 00:11:23,967 --who will work in a gay club-- 250 00:11:24,001 --> 00:11:27,635 --so he'll only, you know, perform, gay performer... 251 00:11:27,668 --> 00:11:30,135 but he's not actually gay so he's "gay for pay". 252 00:11:30,168 --> 00:11:33,201 So I've been called either "gay for pay" or "in the closet". 253 00:11:33,234 --> 00:11:34,701 And I say, No, I'm neither! 254 00:11:34,734 --> 00:11:37,867 You know, I'm right in between. I'll prefer certain aspects in 255 00:11:37,901 --> 00:11:39,867 men, I'll prefer certain aspects in women. 256 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:47,535 ♪ 257 00:11:47,568 --> 00:11:49,834 Um, my Mum's been involved with the little theatre 258 00:11:49,867 --> 00:11:51,668 for as long as I can remember. 259 00:11:51,701 --> 00:11:54,467 I am currently the President of Georgetown Little Theatre. 260 00:11:54,501 --> 00:11:59,034 Brendan comes from a long line, on my Mom's side, of... 261 00:11:59,067 --> 00:12:00,201 entertainers. 262 00:12:00,235 --> 00:12:04,300 It's almost like it's in our genetic pool, where... 263 00:12:04,334 --> 00:12:08,067 My grandfather played the traps and I have aunties who are 264 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:11,534 currently entertaining in, um, old folks' homes. 265 00:12:11,567 --> 00:12:13,001 They certainly weren't stripping. 266 00:12:13,034 --> 00:12:17,001 They do a Dolly Parton thing and the tears come streaming. 267 00:12:17,034 --> 00:12:20,701 One old gentleman wanted Dolly Parton's autograph. 268 00:12:20,734 --> 00:12:24,700 But the theatre's there. They like performing. And so do I. 269 00:12:24,733 --> 00:12:27,000 He's a dancer. He likes music. 270 00:12:27,033 --> 00:12:28,700 He danced at The Electric Circus. 271 00:12:28,734 --> 00:12:30,301 Do you remember The Electric Circus? 272 00:12:30,334 --> 00:12:33,500 You would see him, little bits of Brendon on TV. 273 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:36,367 When, actually, did you start dancing? 274 00:12:36,401 --> 00:12:39,401 Brendan told us that he started stripping 275 00:12:39,434 --> 00:12:42,367 years after he had started stripping. 276 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,000 I have never seen Brendan strip. 277 00:12:44,033 --> 00:12:45,500 You could use some constructive criticism. 278 00:12:45,534 --> 00:12:46,635 No! (laughs) 279 00:12:46,668 --> 00:12:48,766 For instance, I'll try to tell you to stop flexing the-- 280 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,533 That comes naturally. 281 00:12:49,566 --> 00:12:50,601 The girls like that. 282 00:12:50,634 --> 00:12:53,101 I don't think he'd be comfortable having me in 283 00:12:53,134 --> 00:12:56,367 the audience. And it's too bad, cuz you would like to see your 284 00:12:56,401 --> 00:12:58,534 child do their chosen line of work. 285 00:12:58,567 --> 00:13:01,034 Gabriel, I want to talk to you about your family. 286 00:13:01,067 --> 00:13:06,333 How did your family react to your choice of career? 287 00:13:06,366 --> 00:13:08,367 The easiest story to tell is my father. 288 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,867 When I told him about that he was super excited. 289 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:12,800 Not everybody can brag about that. 290 00:13:12,834 --> 00:13:14,567 So to me it's a little pride. 291 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,867 He was excited for you?! 292 00:13:15,901 --> 00:13:18,366 Yeah. He was, like, "I wanna go check it out!" 293 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:19,400 Like... are you sure? 294 00:13:19,434 --> 00:13:20,633 He's, "Yeah, definitely!" (laughs) 295 00:13:20,666 --> 00:13:21,834 Really! 296 00:13:21,867 --> 00:13:24,000 I work in construction. That's what I do for a living. 297 00:13:24,033 --> 00:13:27,567 Because I love my job, I became one of the best. 298 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,633 Gabriel has a passion too. Just be happy. 299 00:13:30,666 --> 00:13:32,633 That's what you want to do? Do it! 300 00:13:32,667 --> 00:13:34,233 What about your Mom. How, ah... 301 00:13:34,266 --> 00:13:36,400 Ah, my mother is a different story. 302 00:13:36,433 --> 00:13:39,733 It didn't matter if I was a astronaut or a hooker. 303 00:13:39,766 --> 00:13:41,334 It was same to her. 304 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:44,567 Like, she just has negative points of view about everything. 305 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,866 That must be really difficult. 306 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:47,366 So are your parents not together? 307 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:48,500 No. Not any more. 308 00:13:48,533 --> 00:13:50,300 He lived only with his mother and 309 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:52,200 she was his most present parent. 310 00:13:52,234 --> 00:13:54,967 He felt he had to please her and couldn't please her. 311 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:58,933 I don't give a hoot what is your sexual orientation. 312 00:13:58,966 --> 00:14:01,701 I don't give a hoot, it's who you are. 313 00:14:01,734 --> 00:14:03,768 The mother... it's a different story. 314 00:14:03,801 --> 00:14:05,801 Everything I would do, it was a performance. 315 00:14:05,834 --> 00:14:07,367 You couldn't play sports without her, 316 00:14:07,401 --> 00:14:09,268 you know, criticizing what I was doing. 317 00:14:09,301 --> 00:14:12,067 So it gave me that boost, I guess you could say. 318 00:14:12,101 --> 00:14:15,001 It gave me that special talent to perform under pressure. 319 00:14:15,034 --> 00:14:16,534 And also to please, right? 320 00:14:16,567 --> 00:14:18,801 You... you... when we grow up with a parent 321 00:14:18,834 --> 00:14:22,335 who's so hard to please we work really hard. 322 00:14:22,368 --> 00:14:25,334 He's not afraid of that performance and of putting all 323 00:14:25,367 --> 00:14:28,667 of it, his whole heart and soul, into something. 324 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:30,201 And he's getting the accolades. 325 00:14:30,234 --> 00:14:33,134 It's almost like what he didn't get at home he's... 326 00:14:33,167 --> 00:14:35,901 he has a whole fan base. He's got a whole group 327 00:14:35,934 --> 00:14:40,700 of people who can validate his being, in a sense. 328 00:14:40,733 --> 00:14:45,034 ♪ 329 00:14:45,067 --> 00:14:48,333 Ehhh, hey, hey, hey, heyyyy! 330 00:14:48,367 --> 00:14:49,635 (Greeting in French.) 331 00:14:49,668 --> 00:14:52,901 It has been quite a while since the last time I've seen you. 332 00:14:52,934 --> 00:14:56,000 Yeah. I did a special event, well, yesterday, actually, um. 333 00:14:56,034 --> 00:14:58,034 Me and my father have always been close. 334 00:14:58,067 --> 00:15:01,333 If I have something, stress or something going on in my life, 335 00:15:01,367 --> 00:15:02,867 he's good support to have. 336 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:06,500 The most common thing that I hear when I'm dancing, 337 00:15:06,534 --> 00:15:08,867 it's always like, what am I, gay or straight? 338 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,900 Bisexuality is confusion. You don't know what you are 339 00:15:11,934 --> 00:15:14,567 and you're just trying both until you pick a side. 340 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,000 To me, to be bisexual is... you like both sides. 341 00:15:19,033 --> 00:15:21,234 You like the both sides of the world. 342 00:15:21,267 --> 00:15:23,567 As a bisexual you can find pleasure in, 343 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,833 you know, in any kind of human touch. (laughs) 344 00:15:25,866 --> 00:15:26,666 No preference! 345 00:15:26,699 --> 00:15:27,467 Yeah. 346 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,467 I like you as much as I like you. 347 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,834 You are a man. You are a woman. You are in between. 348 00:15:32,867 --> 00:15:36,866 I don't care. It's who you are. I will not judge. 349 00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:38,601 But I will ask questions. 350 00:15:38,634 --> 00:15:40,901 So tell me, how is it going with Leila? 351 00:15:40,934 --> 00:15:42,668 Things now are really good. 352 00:15:42,701 --> 00:15:46,767 You know, we were kind of, we had, like, a promise... 353 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,300 I gave her a promise ring. 354 00:15:48,334 --> 00:15:51,466 And it's now turned to more like an engagement. 355 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:53,367 Ho-ho-ho-ho! 356 00:15:53,401 --> 00:15:56,000 So now I could say that you are engaged. 357 00:15:56,034 --> 00:15:56,633 Yeah! Yeah. 358 00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:57,966 All right! 359 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,234 Hey, cheers! 360 00:16:01,267 --> 00:16:04,533 When it comes to the male revues and shows and stuff like that, 361 00:16:04,567 --> 00:16:07,634 like... I think, all in all, we are the best all around. 362 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:10,466 We go on on-time. We do fifteen minute shows with costumes. 363 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:11,566 We get completely nude. 364 00:16:11,599 --> 00:16:13,167 We're the cat's ass. 365 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,967 I've been doing it for so long there's no real nerves. 366 00:16:16,001 --> 00:16:18,567 I don't get nervous, I just kind of... show up. 367 00:16:18,601 --> 00:16:20,901 Breakfast: six raw eggs, a cup of oatmeal, 368 00:16:20,934 --> 00:16:23,700 some flax seed, protein, some frozen berries. 369 00:16:23,733 --> 00:16:27,133 That goes in a shake. Put it in a blender and drink it. 370 00:16:27,167 --> 00:16:29,800 That's my breakfast. It's pretty boring, but, again, 371 00:16:29,834 --> 00:16:31,667 that's a trade-off for looking like this. 372 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,434 You gonna be there for 8, or...? 373 00:16:33,467 --> 00:16:34,966 This guy i never on time. 374 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,466 What time's the show at? 9? 375 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:38,733 I'm going to be there at 8:59, that's okay. 376 00:16:38,766 --> 00:16:39,999 I'm on Jamaica time. 377 00:16:42,633 --> 00:16:45,601 back so I'll get one of the guys to shave my back. 378 00:16:45,634 --> 00:16:48,633 Life in the industry-- gotta do it. No girl likes a sweater. 379 00:16:48,667 --> 00:16:50,667 Tonight is going to be a busy night 380 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:53,266 and what I want to talk about... Everything is perfect. 381 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:55,833 The only thing that we lack as a group is 382 00:16:55,866 --> 00:16:57,367 what I want to call "schmoozing". 383 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,968 What I want to see tonight is an effort from everybody to go out 384 00:17:01,001 --> 00:17:02,768 and say, "Hey ladies, where you from? 385 00:17:02,801 --> 00:17:05,867 We're happy you guys came. We're going to be back in February." 386 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:13,868 ♪ 387 00:17:13,901 --> 00:17:16,368 It's a love for the instant gratification. 388 00:17:16,401 --> 00:17:18,968 You're holding the power of this whole audience and to 389 00:17:19,001 --> 00:17:22,500 actually whip them into a whole frenzy... it's intoxicating. 390 00:17:22,533 --> 00:17:36,368 ♪ 391 00:17:36,402 --> 00:17:39,468 Jeremy says he's going to be the oldest stripper in the world. 392 00:17:39,501 --> 00:17:40,835 I'm gonna be walking around 393 00:17:40,868 --> 00:17:43,601 with just the trench coat on. I'll get arrested for sure. 394 00:17:43,634 --> 00:17:45,634 Women want a firefighter. Women want a cop. 395 00:17:45,668 --> 00:17:48,134 You wanna man in uniform that can't get it up? 396 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:50,900 Our fantasy is to try and suck a guy together, like... 397 00:17:50,933 --> 00:17:52,101 Yeah, we did. 398 00:17:52,134 --> 00:17:54,734 I'll go out, pick up somebody, go to a hotel room... 399 00:17:54,768 --> 00:17:57,033 I love him and I hope to be monogamous. 400 00:17:57,066 --> 00:17:58,167 ♪ 401 00:17:59,933 --> 00:18:01,600 ♪ 402 00:18:04,534 --> 00:18:07,000 The highlight of my relation with Leila is that, 403 00:18:07,034 --> 00:18:11,967 first of all we're an open couple. If I'm missing time... 404 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,201 special time with a man, then she completely understands it. 405 00:18:15,234 --> 00:18:18,000 I'll go out, pick up somebody, go to a hotel room, 406 00:18:18,034 --> 00:18:19,000 go to their place... 407 00:18:19,033 --> 00:18:20,533 And this is okay with her. 408 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:21,501 Oh yeah. 409 00:18:21,534 --> 00:18:23,534 So this... you live in an open relationship 410 00:18:23,567 --> 00:18:25,967 where it's basically sanctioned non-monogamy. 411 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,101 So it's not cheating because you're not betraying 412 00:18:28,134 --> 00:18:29,367 because she knows about it. 413 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,934 Yeah. Like, nights I'll go out and I'll tell her, 414 00:18:31,967 --> 00:18:35,534 well, I need to go out and... you know, find a male partner. 415 00:18:35,567 --> 00:18:38,568 And then, say the next morning, I'll tell her all about it. 416 00:18:38,601 --> 00:18:43,101 I don't have to choose and let go of my sexuality with men. 417 00:18:43,134 --> 00:18:47,668 When I first met him he told me, "I have this thing that I need 418 00:18:47,701 --> 00:18:50,834 to go around and, you know... have fun with other people. 419 00:18:50,868 --> 00:18:54,101 So I said okay, I don't mind. Like I told to everybody, 420 00:18:54,134 --> 00:18:56,767 I don't have what he needs down there so... 421 00:18:56,801 --> 00:18:58,867 If you're with me, what's going to happen? 422 00:18:58,901 --> 00:19:01,367 You're going to really want a penis, at some point. 423 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,167 You're gonna leave me for a penis, 424 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,466 I can't fulfill that because I don't have one. 425 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:08,100 For him, it's natural to go on the side 426 00:19:08,133 --> 00:19:10,801 even if he is in a couple or not. 427 00:19:10,834 --> 00:19:15,600 But for me, ah... I'm someone who does love him, and ahh... 428 00:19:15,634 --> 00:19:18,600 I believe that you can make love to the one you love 429 00:19:18,633 --> 00:19:20,933 but not with other people. 430 00:19:20,967 --> 00:19:23,367 So, sometimes it's kind of challenging, yeah. 431 00:19:23,401 --> 00:19:26,634 It's that kind of openness that we have that 432 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:30,000 she's happy for me if I'm having a good time. 433 00:19:30,033 --> 00:19:31,168 Love is freedom. 434 00:19:31,201 --> 00:19:34,566 When you have a bird in a cage, it's not a good thing. 435 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,133 So, when he has fun, I'm happy. 436 00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:39,900 Remember when we went to the club? 437 00:19:39,933 --> 00:19:42,733 (laughs) Yeah, you were licking that girl's (beep)... 438 00:19:42,766 --> 00:19:43,700 (laughter) 439 00:19:43,733 --> 00:19:45,999 And I fell in love with you. (laughs) 440 00:19:46,033 --> 00:19:47,334 (laughter) 441 00:19:47,367 --> 00:19:50,067 You know what else was fun, at the, ah... kink in the woods. 442 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,566 You know, we were both playing with this one guy. 443 00:19:52,599 --> 00:19:53,433 Remember that? 444 00:19:53,467 --> 00:19:55,833 Yeah. I told him that our fantasy was to 445 00:19:55,866 --> 00:19:57,599 try and suck a guy together, like... 446 00:19:57,633 --> 00:19:59,033 Yeah. 447 00:19:59,066 --> 00:19:59,866 We did. 448 00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:00,566 I know. 449 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,634 He liked it. 450 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:03,867 A healthy relation is one plus one equals three. 451 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:07,400 You have you, you have her-- or him-- and you have together. 452 00:20:07,433 --> 00:20:10,500 So I can have sex on my side, you know, and even, 453 00:20:10,534 --> 00:20:14,600 I guess, tell her about it and... and find your fetishes. 454 00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:16,401 Find your things to explore with her. 455 00:20:16,434 --> 00:20:19,700 If I want to have a quickie I'd rather have it with somebody 456 00:20:19,733 --> 00:20:27,233 I picked up or somebody in a bar, you know? 457 00:20:27,267 --> 00:20:30,333 When I met David, we had an instant connection. 458 00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:34,734 He came, one time, in my bar. He just heard me singing. 459 00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:38,034 And he said, "Ho, my god!" You know, "What is that voice?" 460 00:20:38,067 --> 00:20:43,034 We exchanged many conversations during the night. 461 00:20:43,067 --> 00:20:44,334 And, uh... we go together. 462 00:20:44,367 --> 00:20:46,534 My relation with David has been, you know, 463 00:20:46,567 --> 00:20:49,301 friends with benefits. We could see each other just to 464 00:20:49,334 --> 00:20:53,233 have fun or just to have sex. He's a man of multi-talents. 465 00:20:53,266 --> 00:20:55,000 Like, he can sing, he can cook... 466 00:20:55,033 --> 00:20:59,733 I love how he gives off this very positive energy. 467 00:20:59,767 --> 00:21:03,068 What I found sexy about Gabriel is...everything. 468 00:21:03,101 --> 00:21:06,001 He has, like, this balance of feminine and masculine energy. 469 00:21:06,034 --> 00:21:08,334 Like, he places his hair very feminine... 470 00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:10,600 Funny guy. (laughs) 471 00:21:10,634 --> 00:21:13,434 Yeah, I'm bisexual too, but I prefer men. 472 00:21:13,467 --> 00:21:16,401 I never saw Gabriel like a boyfriend. Never, never. 473 00:21:16,434 --> 00:21:19,868 I never felt love for Gabriel. But attractive... 474 00:21:19,901 --> 00:21:23,334 Now he has a boyfriend so we're not sleeping together any more. 475 00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:27,267 Although, we might just have a threesome. (laughs) 476 00:21:31,634 --> 00:21:34,734 I'll tell you a story about Brendan's friend, BJ. 477 00:21:34,767 --> 00:21:36,601 She's the beautiful girl next-door. 478 00:21:36,634 --> 00:21:40,401 BJ and I have known each other since Grade 1, all the way up. 479 00:21:40,434 --> 00:21:43,001 I kind of had a crush on her. Um... 480 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:45,401 So, when they were sixteen years old he goes 481 00:21:45,434 --> 00:21:49,567 to the florist and buys, like a pound, of rose petals. 482 00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:51,134 And he's got a birthday cake. 483 00:21:51,168 --> 00:21:53,834 He sprinkles rose petals up the stairs to her bedroom... 484 00:21:53,867 --> 00:21:55,501 It's a romantic thing do to. 485 00:21:55,535 --> 00:21:57,634 Who would think of doing something like that? 486 00:21:57,667 --> 00:22:00,201 The attraction that I had with her wasn't even sexual. 487 00:22:00,234 --> 00:22:02,301 It was just like a boyish attraction. 488 00:22:02,334 --> 00:22:05,067 I can't look at her that way. It's just... we're friends. 489 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,334 Brendan may have come on too strong, 490 00:22:08,367 --> 00:22:10,601 too suave, too professional. I think that was the 491 00:22:10,634 --> 00:22:13,834 turning point that BJ said, "No, no, no, no, no." (laughs) 492 00:22:13,868 --> 00:22:15,733 It's a little ridiculous, male strippers... 493 00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:16,868 Why? 494 00:22:16,901 --> 00:22:19,267 I think it's entertainment. Like, we work our asses off. 495 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,533 We put on costumes, we make our own music. 496 00:22:21,567 --> 00:22:22,701 Those are ridiculous, yes. 497 00:22:22,735 --> 00:22:25,600 The one and only time that I went to see Brendan strip 498 00:22:25,634 --> 00:22:27,000 was about eight years ago. 499 00:22:27,033 --> 00:22:29,100 He said it was his last time stripping. 500 00:22:29,134 --> 00:22:31,700 So I thought, okay, he really wanted me to go. 501 00:22:31,734 --> 00:22:34,501 Oh man, it was very awkward. 502 00:22:34,534 --> 00:22:37,834 As far as the whole getup and the costumes and the parading 503 00:22:37,868 --> 00:22:41,700 around it's not sexually attractive to me at all. 504 00:22:41,734 --> 00:22:43,000 Men do this cheesy-ass act... 505 00:22:43,034 --> 00:22:44,633 No, no, no. Women are... 506 00:22:44,667 --> 00:22:46,133 ...and you're supposed to be, like, 507 00:22:46,167 --> 00:22:47,234 grovelling at their feet... 508 00:22:47,267 --> 00:22:48,634 No! They want the fantasy... 509 00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:49,768 ...They're some cheesy-ass fantasies... 510 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:52,133 It's not! Women want a firefighter. Women want a cop. 511 00:22:52,167 --> 00:22:53,133 Women want a cowboy. 512 00:22:53,167 --> 00:22:55,400 Do you want a man in uniform that can't 513 00:22:55,434 --> 00:22:58,167 get it up cause there's times when we've had that issue? 514 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,734 Who, me? 515 00:22:58,767 --> 00:23:00,567 I got to see his life, 516 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,733 which was nice. But I was happy that I thought he was 517 00:23:03,767 --> 00:23:05,034 getting out of the business. 518 00:23:05,067 --> 00:23:07,833 I liked being onstage. I like dressing up. I like dancing. 519 00:23:07,867 --> 00:23:09,600 You know, that, to me, is entertainment. 520 00:23:09,634 --> 00:23:12,067 You're not going to be a stripper forever, right? 521 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,066 There's some of the guys I'm dancing with, 522 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,100 they're in their forties. 523 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:15,900 Oh, really! 524 00:23:15,934 --> 00:23:17,667 Yeah. Jeremy says he's going to be 525 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:19,167 the oldest stripper in the world. 526 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,666 That's his goal. He wants to break the world record 527 00:23:21,699 --> 00:23:22,933 and be the oldest stripper. 528 00:23:22,967 --> 00:23:25,433 I'm scared that when I'm 60 I'm going to be 529 00:23:25,467 --> 00:23:28,066 that guy walking around with just the trench coat on, 530 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,333 "Look at my dick! Come look at my dick!" 531 00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:31,435 I'm gonna get arrested. 532 00:23:31,468 --> 00:23:34,100 But, no, I'm not going to be that forty-five year old 533 00:23:34,134 --> 00:23:37,366 stripper still hanging on to that dream. No. 534 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,434 This is probably the best I've ever been. 535 00:23:39,467 --> 00:23:42,366 Older, more mature, bigger, better dancer. 536 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,867 Like, everything is better about me. 537 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,267 But the industry has changed. 538 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:47,766 We're not making as much money as we used to. 539 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,066 Speak for yourself. I had my best year ever. 540 00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:52,367 Like, you have your fans but, right now man, 541 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,367 I'm just killing it And you know what? 542 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,367 If you said, "Oh, I'm quitting cold turkey.", 543 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,367 it's going to go six months and then you're going to go, 544 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,834 "Hey, Jer, have you got any shows coming up?" 545 00:24:01,867 --> 00:24:03,034 I'm not allowing it. 546 00:24:03,067 --> 00:24:06,068 I've considered different venues of entertainment. 547 00:24:06,101 --> 00:24:08,368 For example, the guys from Thunder From Down Under 548 00:24:08,401 --> 00:24:10,334 in Vegas. Like, they're really, really good. 549 00:24:10,367 --> 00:24:12,001 They do a show, it's choreographed, 550 00:24:12,035 --> 00:24:14,733 they work really hard an that's their end-all and be-all. 551 00:24:14,767 --> 00:24:16,001 That's what they're doing. 552 00:24:16,035 --> 00:24:19,068 I'm living on my own, I'm thirty years old, I can barely support 553 00:24:19,101 --> 00:24:22,334 myself, let alone, you know, two children and a wife. 554 00:24:22,367 --> 00:24:25,601 So I've owned a hockey school for years. I'm doing my acting. 555 00:24:25,634 --> 00:24:27,867 I finally got an agent about six months ago. 556 00:24:27,901 --> 00:24:29,867 And then I started to produce boat cruises. 557 00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:32,633 One job is never enough. If I'm just doing one thing 558 00:24:32,667 --> 00:24:34,368 then I go... I go crazy. 559 00:24:34,401 --> 00:24:37,701 How much money does a male stripper make? 560 00:24:37,734 --> 00:24:41,367 A regular week it was about fifteen hundred to two thousand. 561 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,268 I can make, in one night, 562 00:24:43,301 --> 00:24:46,067 a regular person's salary for a week. 563 00:24:46,101 --> 00:24:48,834 I wish I could get a job like that! 564 00:24:48,867 --> 00:24:50,468 Well, tell me one thing, though. 565 00:24:50,501 --> 00:24:53,068 How do things going to be with your relationship? 566 00:24:53,101 --> 00:24:56,968 We're still in an open relation but only with the opposite sex. 567 00:24:57,001 --> 00:25:00,534 And the way we are now, like, we'll mostly do, um... 568 00:25:00,567 --> 00:25:03,201 parties, like, together. We'll have an orgy, a threesome, 569 00:25:03,234 --> 00:25:06,900 So, we're less, like, I'm less going on my side on my own. 570 00:25:06,934 --> 00:25:10,400 We keep our relationship healthy. Always with trust. 571 00:25:10,434 --> 00:25:11,900 Things'll probably change a bit, 572 00:25:11,934 --> 00:25:14,367 like, you know, progressively change. 573 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,267 But I don't, I don't see any, like, radical changes. 574 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:20,334 What I hope is that one day he's going to be able 575 00:25:20,367 --> 00:25:22,767 to be with me only, together as a couple. 576 00:25:22,801 --> 00:25:26,434 But I'm never going to ask him to... to do it. 577 00:25:26,467 --> 00:25:28,567 That doesn't frighten you, that, um... 578 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,034 she might say, "Okay, now you're mine, "I'm married to ya." 579 00:25:33,068 --> 00:25:36,067 (laughs) No, I trust her. I would not think of marrying her 580 00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:38,334 if I thought she would do such a thing. 581 00:25:38,367 --> 00:25:41,534 Well, you know, some people do change when they get married. 582 00:25:41,568 --> 00:25:43,634 I just hope that whenever there's a problem 583 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:45,733 I hope you are talking to each other. 584 00:25:45,766 --> 00:25:46,534 Yeah. 585 00:25:46,567 --> 00:25:49,167 I love him and I hope that one day 586 00:25:49,201 --> 00:25:52,200 we're going to be able to be monogamous. 587 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:53,401 I have charm. 588 00:25:53,434 --> 00:25:55,867 You could charm your way into giving someone gonorrhoea. 589 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:56,867 I don't have it. 590 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:58,801 What do I need a girl for? 591 00:25:58,834 --> 00:26:01,067 I've seen many strippers on drugs. Some of them, 592 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,067 they just need a certain drug just to keep them cool. 593 00:26:04,101 --> 00:26:06,567 Are you going to have a party on your birthday 594 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,866 or is that going to be the last time? 595 00:26:13,567 --> 00:26:16,001 Is there someone that you're seeing right now? 596 00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:19,333 There's always girls. They keep on coming and coming. 597 00:26:19,366 --> 00:26:20,433 Take a number. 598 00:26:20,466 --> 00:26:21,933 Do you remember your first show? 599 00:26:21,967 --> 00:26:23,666 You came. Don't you remember that? 600 00:26:23,699 --> 00:26:24,266 No. 601 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:25,000 You did. 602 00:26:25,033 --> 00:26:25,999 Was I drunk? 603 00:26:26,032 --> 00:26:26,934 No! 604 00:26:26,967 --> 00:26:28,200 We have this passionate relationship. 605 00:26:28,234 --> 00:26:30,500 You know, we've known each other for so long 606 00:26:30,534 --> 00:26:33,334 that I think we're better off being friends. I think 607 00:26:33,367 --> 00:26:36,133 it's good that I can provide a different view for him. 608 00:26:36,167 --> 00:26:39,233 I have charm and, like, they just see that I'm like... 609 00:26:39,267 --> 00:26:41,033 That's great. That's a great selling feature 610 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:43,800 that you have charm. But you could also charm your way 611 00:26:43,834 --> 00:26:44,900 into giving someone gonorrhoea. 612 00:26:44,933 --> 00:26:46,367 But I don't have it! 613 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,434 Well, that's great. 614 00:26:47,468 --> 00:26:49,900 You make good money and you're in the right facility 615 00:26:49,934 --> 00:26:51,667 to have the lifestyle you want. 616 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,166 The relationship with her and I, like, we're just honest. 617 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,066 If she feels something, she'll tell me. 618 00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,867 If I feel something, I'll tell her. 619 00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,133 I think I've always wanted 620 00:26:59,166 --> 00:27:01,134 to see him on the straight and narrow. 621 00:27:01,168 --> 00:27:03,901 Coming from a small town, he's tried to find himself in 622 00:27:03,934 --> 00:27:06,667 other things that weren't really known here. 623 00:27:06,701 --> 00:27:09,201 He's just tried to be a rebel in that sense. 624 00:27:09,235 --> 00:27:11,900 You know, when it comes to a relationship, 625 00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:14,268 really, like what do I need a woman for? 626 00:27:14,301 --> 00:27:16,601 It's maybe been revisited once or twice. 627 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:18,101 Do you ever think, "What if?" 628 00:27:18,134 --> 00:27:21,101 -- if we would have had that one night or one something 629 00:27:21,134 --> 00:27:22,668 would it have changed our opinions? 630 00:27:22,701 --> 00:27:25,400 I still love him and want the best for him 631 00:27:25,434 --> 00:27:26,934 but I'm not romantically involved. 632 00:27:26,968 --> 00:27:29,334 I cook. I clean. I'm independent. 633 00:27:29,368 --> 00:27:31,868 I make my own money. I do my own laundry. 634 00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:36,601 Aside from sex, really, what do I need a girl for? 635 00:27:36,634 --> 00:27:38,867 I read an interesting article -- it was rather, 636 00:27:38,901 --> 00:27:42,200 sad, really -- where a number of male strippers 637 00:27:42,234 --> 00:27:45,401 had died due to the use of steroids. 638 00:27:45,434 --> 00:27:48,568 And the article really talked about the pressure to-- 639 00:27:48,601 --> 00:27:51,367 you know, the six pack and... you have to look good. 640 00:27:51,401 --> 00:27:54,701 There is a certain pressure, ah, to look hot. 641 00:27:54,734 --> 00:27:57,701 Of course there's some things that I don't tell my Mom. 642 00:27:57,734 --> 00:27:59,800 I do some steroids once in a while. 643 00:27:59,834 --> 00:28:01,134 I've got an injured shoulder. 644 00:28:01,167 --> 00:28:05,467 So that shot, it's just making my tissue repair so much faster. 645 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:07,233 Some people say, "Oh, he's doing drugs. 646 00:28:07,267 --> 00:28:08,567 Oh, he's doing something illegal." 647 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,034 Yeah, well... look at the way people drink. 648 00:28:11,067 --> 00:28:13,267 When I take a steroid, it's body-enhancing. 649 00:28:13,301 --> 00:28:16,267 Really, what am I doing wrong? Nothing. 650 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:17,601 Do I have any side-effects? 651 00:28:17,634 --> 00:28:20,534 At one point I develope gynecomastia. When that happens 652 00:28:20,567 --> 00:28:23,201 the male will start to have an enlarged breast tissue. 653 00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,767 Pretty easy, it's like day surgery. 654 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,334 All they do is, kind of, slice it open, take out some of that 655 00:28:28,367 --> 00:28:31,834 fatty tissue and sew me back up. You can't even tell I had it. 656 00:28:31,867 --> 00:28:33,700 What Mom doesn't know won't hurt her. 657 00:28:33,734 --> 00:28:35,300 I've seen many strippers on drugs. 658 00:28:35,334 --> 00:28:37,334 Some of them, it's not about looking good. 659 00:28:37,368 --> 00:28:40,334 They just need a certain drug just to keep them cool. 660 00:28:40,367 --> 00:28:43,467 I work out, I listen to my body, and I eat well. 661 00:28:43,501 --> 00:28:45,467 I'm always having the time of my life, 662 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:46,967 so I'm excited to be there... 663 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,234 Have you ever used Viagra or anything like that? 664 00:28:49,268 --> 00:28:52,001 I've tried. I don't need it and I don't like it. 665 00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:56,667 Viagra makes your head rush, you feel like you're semi-drunk 666 00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:00,266 all the time. And Levitra just makes me way too horny. 667 00:29:06,167 --> 00:29:09,366 Gabriel's sex appetite is intensive. 668 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000 He is a really, really amazing lover. 669 00:29:12,034 --> 00:29:14,834 My sex sessions are quite long. 670 00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:18,667 Because I'll take a lot of time with foreplay, first of all. 671 00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:22,267 It's not all about genital activities or penetration. 672 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:25,200 There's a lot... you know, I kiss a lot, I'll massage. 673 00:29:25,234 --> 00:29:28,234 I love starting sex with a nice massage. 674 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:31,600 It's all about feeling and, you know, 675 00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:33,733 exploring different sensations. 676 00:29:33,766 --> 00:29:36,266 I know from my own experience he's 677 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,867 really, really a good lover. 678 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:46,100 I remember one time we get in my room during eight hours and... 679 00:29:46,133 --> 00:29:47,300 he never stopped! 680 00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:49,833 It was... he's incredible. 681 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,434 Gabriel lives in an open relationship. 682 00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:59,433 You have to find somebody who wants the same thing you do 683 00:29:59,467 --> 00:30:00,600 and who values that. 684 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:03,034 But if not... you choose. 685 00:30:03,067 --> 00:30:05,367 Now how I feel it's very important for me 686 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,934 to have both male and female partners. 687 00:30:08,967 --> 00:30:12,367 Um, there was a time I didn't believe marriage was a good idea 688 00:30:12,401 --> 00:30:15,467 because if you're always wit the same partner then you will, 689 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:18,800 you know, get tired of that and passion might go away. 690 00:30:18,834 --> 00:30:20,667 So to have both, like... 691 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:28,333 it always brings me back between making love and raw sexuality. 692 00:30:28,366 --> 00:30:34,567 ♪ 693 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,833 The thing that differentiates me 694 00:30:35,866 --> 00:30:37,734 from the other guys is my showmanship. 695 00:30:37,768 --> 00:30:41,267 I love to be extravagant with my shows. I like to be different. 696 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:44,567 I actually remember the first time I wanted to go to a strip 697 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,233 club because I didn't know, like, 698 00:30:46,267 --> 00:30:48,800 do these guys have big dicks? Do they take Viagra? 699 00:30:48,834 --> 00:30:51,667 Do they stick a dildo dow their pants or their underwear? 700 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:52,967 Like, I really didn't know. 701 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,234 Girls don't want to come to a strip club and see a guy 702 00:30:56,267 --> 00:30:58,266 strip down to his pants or his boxers. 703 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:00,267 They want to see a guy get naked. 704 00:31:00,301 --> 00:31:01,801 When I started dancing I 705 00:31:01,834 --> 00:31:03,368 fell in love with the attention. 706 00:31:03,401 --> 00:31:07,067 I really like how I could expose myself like that and people were 707 00:31:07,101 --> 00:31:09,400 cheering me to expose myself. 708 00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:12,000 So I became an exhibitionist. 709 00:31:16,167 --> 00:31:18,134 I almost, like, promised myself by the time 710 00:31:18,168 --> 00:31:20,467 I turn thirty I want to be done. 711 00:31:20,501 --> 00:31:22,300 Brendan says that he's quitting for good. 712 00:31:22,334 --> 00:31:23,435 Really? 713 00:31:23,468 --> 00:31:25,968 I mean, Brendan could have grown up five years ago. 714 00:31:26,001 --> 00:31:28,500 But he's still growing up. I think lots of men 715 00:31:28,534 --> 00:31:30,101 take a while to grow up. 716 00:31:30,134 --> 00:31:32,400 Are you gonna have a party on your birthday 717 00:31:32,434 --> 00:31:34,567 and is that gonna be the last time? 718 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,834 That's actually a good idea. 719 00:31:35,867 --> 00:31:37,700 Done. That's it. 720 00:31:37,734 --> 00:31:39,233 For real. 721 00:31:39,266 --> 00:31:40,234 Yeah. 722 00:31:40,267 --> 00:31:42,001 Like, right now I just eat, sleep, 723 00:31:42,035 --> 00:31:45,100 breathe stripping and you don't care as much as I do. 724 00:31:45,133 --> 00:31:45,667 Who me? 725 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:46,802 Yeah, about stripping... 726 00:31:46,835 --> 00:31:49,635 Like I said, if I can start doing the boat cruises more, 727 00:31:49,668 --> 00:31:52,634 if I can do some more modeling and acting, then I'm happy. 728 00:31:52,667 --> 00:31:54,568 I'm tired of stripping. 729 00:31:54,601 --> 00:31:56,535 I started partying in Toronto boat cruises. 730 00:31:56,568 --> 00:31:58,401 Partying during the day. Listening to music. 731 00:31:58,434 --> 00:32:00,233 Checking out super hot girls. 732 00:32:00,267 --> 00:32:02,034 The guys are all muscular and jacked. 733 00:32:02,067 --> 00:32:03,134 Listening to house music... 734 00:32:03,167 --> 00:32:06,434 So I took it upon myself to do boat cruises. 735 00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:10,201 It's crazy, there's 450 people on a boat, 736 00:32:10,234 --> 00:32:12,734 in the sunlight, on Lake Ontario. It's really fun. 737 00:32:12,767 --> 00:32:15,434 So my last cruise I actually had BSOD, 738 00:32:15,468 --> 00:32:19,301 which is Steve Duda from California and Joel Zimmerman. 739 00:32:19,334 --> 00:32:21,734 He's also known as Dead Maus. The best performance 740 00:32:21,767 --> 00:32:24,400 I've ever seen at such a small, intimate little setting. 741 00:32:24,433 --> 00:32:25,733 And it was all mine. 742 00:32:25,766 --> 00:32:33,001 ♪ 743 00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:35,033 A mother wants to know. Are you gay? 744 00:32:35,066 --> 00:32:36,000 What?! 745 00:32:36,034 --> 00:32:37,901 I do sometimes think that he could be gay... 746 00:32:37,934 --> 00:32:41,001 Okay, son. It's time to show you something. 747 00:32:41,034 --> 00:32:44,333 Yeah, I have to make contact with the other side. 748 00:32:44,366 --> 00:32:46,067 Good magic. Bad magic. 749 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,434 I also did porn videos. 750 00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:48,799 You... you're a porn star. 751 00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:49,100 Yeah. 752 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:50,733 ♪ 753 00:32:54,466 --> 00:32:55,699 A mother wants to know. 754 00:32:55,733 --> 00:32:56,500 Yeah. 755 00:32:56,534 --> 00:32:58,267 About the relationships. Are you gay? 756 00:32:58,300 --> 00:32:59,501 What?! 757 00:32:59,535 --> 00:33:02,833 I do sometimes think that he could be gay or bisexual just 758 00:33:02,867 --> 00:33:07,466 because of the nature of how he presents himself. 759 00:33:07,499 --> 00:33:08,601 No. 760 00:33:08,634 --> 00:33:11,067 Oh my god! I said to dad, I lean him down, I'm like, 761 00:33:11,101 --> 00:33:13,367 "I got something to tell you." He's, like, "What?" 762 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,534 I'm, like, "You won't be happy about this." 763 00:33:15,567 --> 00:33:17,666 And he's, like, "You're not gay, are you?" 764 00:33:17,699 --> 00:33:19,433 I'm, like, "No!" 765 00:33:19,467 --> 00:33:22,100 If he was then he'd tell me eventually, I'm sure. 766 00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:25,167 I was going to say that, "I started dancing. 767 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,067 I'm taking my clothes off for money." 768 00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:28,667 I've tried stripping for men once 769 00:33:28,701 --> 00:33:30,967 but it's something that I wouldn't want to do. 770 00:33:31,001 --> 00:33:35,634 You can't have a man dancing for a man that's not... 771 00:33:35,667 --> 00:33:37,567 in any way, shape or form gay. 772 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,634 Again, I don't care if they are or not. But you cannot 773 00:33:40,667 --> 00:33:45,166 say, wholeheartedly, "Oh, I'm straight but I dance for men." 774 00:33:45,199 --> 00:33:46,267 That's (beep). 775 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:49,600 I'll give you $500 for your g-string. 776 00:33:49,634 --> 00:33:51,433 It's $1000 for the next thing. 777 00:33:51,467 --> 00:33:54,034 And the next thing-- how the (beep) did this happen?! 778 00:33:54,067 --> 00:33:56,801 If you're tempted with the right kind of money, the right 779 00:33:56,834 --> 00:34:01,800 hurdles start to get dropped and eventually... people change. 780 00:34:01,834 --> 00:34:03,434 The moment anything feels like work 781 00:34:03,468 --> 00:34:05,501 is the moment when I run away. 782 00:34:05,534 --> 00:34:09,301 And that, to me, would feel like work so I just wouldn't do it. 783 00:34:09,335 --> 00:34:12,901 Some people think, "You're a stripper, it's disgusting." 784 00:34:12,935 --> 00:34:17,634 I can't imagine people thought he's a... 785 00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:21,334 like a... a small whore. And they can't understand. 786 00:34:21,367 --> 00:34:23,268 For me, it's a small mind. 787 00:34:23,301 --> 00:34:26,668 I want him to be happy. That's definitely it. 788 00:34:26,701 --> 00:34:29,634 As long as he does nothing wrong... just be happy. 789 00:34:29,667 --> 00:34:31,967 That's what you want to do? Do it! 790 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,834 I also did some porn videos. 791 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:36,101 You... you're a porn star. 792 00:34:36,134 --> 00:34:37,235 Yeah. So when I... 793 00:34:37,268 --> 00:34:40,067 You get more and more exciting as we go on here! 794 00:34:40,101 --> 00:34:43,967 For me, stripping was definitely a gateway into doing porn. 795 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,801 Do you find people are judging you? 796 00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:48,067 Like, when people say, "What do you do, Gabriel?" 797 00:34:48,101 --> 00:34:49,968 Like, you're going out somewhere and you're... 798 00:34:50,001 --> 00:34:52,734 If I sense that the person is more closed-minded I'll say, 799 00:34:52,768 --> 00:34:54,600 well, you know, "I work in entertainment." 800 00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,600 I can kind of censor it for them. 801 00:34:56,634 --> 00:34:57,468 Sure. 802 00:34:57,501 --> 00:34:58,934 Porn -- "entertainment"! Okay. (laughter) 803 00:34:58,967 --> 00:35:03,434 You have to have your own identity. 804 00:35:03,467 --> 00:35:06,600 And Gabriel does that really well. 805 00:35:06,633 --> 00:35:09,467 ♪ 806 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,200 I think Gabriel is a really spiritual person. 807 00:35:12,234 --> 00:35:14,034 He really knows who he is. 808 00:35:14,067 --> 00:35:17,568 We have, eh.... esoteric practices of wicca. 809 00:35:17,601 --> 00:35:20,334 He's doing a lot of rituals so, some people would say 810 00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:24,167 'religion', some people would say 'meditation'. 811 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,800 Also, he can read your energy 812 00:35:25,834 --> 00:35:37,800 to tell you who you are in the past. 813 00:35:37,834 --> 00:35:40,234 You have to project yourself somewhere. 814 00:35:40,267 --> 00:35:43,301 You know, make contact with the other side. 815 00:35:43,334 --> 00:35:45,200 Depending on what you want to do, 816 00:35:45,233 --> 00:35:50,000 if it's good magic or bad magic. 817 00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:51,934 ♪ 818 00:35:51,967 --> 00:35:54,534 If I had to stop and consider all the 819 00:35:54,567 --> 00:35:58,034 interesting aspects of my life... it's crazy. 820 00:35:58,067 --> 00:36:00,133 And that's just the way I like it. 821 00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:06,500 ♪ 822 00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:09,000 Well, the forest still looks nice. 823 00:36:09,034 --> 00:36:12,467 So, ah, when Gabriel told me he was bisexual and I could 824 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:17,900 detect he was not totally at ease, then I said, "Oh god... 825 00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:23,933 Okay, son, it's time I show you something." 826 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,733 Eh... we sat in front of my computer. 827 00:36:27,766 --> 00:36:28,800 Check this out. 828 00:36:28,833 --> 00:36:29,933 (popping sound) 829 00:36:29,967 --> 00:36:31,433 And I put it on preview. 830 00:36:31,466 --> 00:36:35,567 (camera clicking sounds) 831 00:36:35,601 --> 00:36:40,434 All pictures of Lulu. In all kinds of different fashion. 832 00:36:40,467 --> 00:36:44,300 Some is classy, some i slutty, some just plain sexy... 833 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:47,100 I look at Gabriel beside me, watching the screen... 834 00:36:47,133 --> 00:36:48,767 (camera clicking sounds) 835 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,600 ...and I'm waiting. And he goes, "Wow... you're cute!" 836 00:36:52,633 --> 00:36:55,499 And I said, "Okay. We're on the same place here. 837 00:36:55,533 --> 00:36:56,933 We're on the same place." 838 00:36:56,967 --> 00:36:58,500 It was surprising, like ah... 839 00:36:58,534 --> 00:37:01,334 because I always saw him as a strong male figure. 840 00:37:01,367 --> 00:37:04,267 Oh, he didn't feel bad any more about bisexuality. 841 00:37:04,301 --> 00:37:08,166 Son, I am also bisexual. He goes, "I knew it!" 842 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,201 (laughs) 843 00:37:10,234 --> 00:37:13,501 I always knew he was a womanizer in a way but he would 844 00:37:13,534 --> 00:37:16,134 sometimes have that same attitude towards men. 845 00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:17,467 His orientation is fluid 846 00:37:17,501 --> 00:37:19,768 and his gender is fluid too a little bit. 847 00:37:19,801 --> 00:37:21,901 Even though he identifies as male... 848 00:37:21,934 --> 00:37:24,401 You know what? I can put on the female role 849 00:37:24,434 --> 00:37:27,168 every once in a while and be perfectly comfortable with it. 850 00:37:27,201 --> 00:37:30,168 When he told me and showed me pictures, I asked him, "Well, 851 00:37:30,201 --> 00:37:32,967 why don't you, tonight, you know, do what you always do?" 852 00:37:33,001 --> 00:37:35,767 And he did and I said I would call him Lulu. 853 00:37:39,634 --> 00:37:43,967 The first time he saw me as Lulu we did a photo shoot together. 854 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,167 The crash course. 855 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,001 I am Lulu and, yay, I'm bisexual! 856 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:51,867 It was awkward in the sense I wasn't used to it. 857 00:37:51,901 --> 00:37:54,634 But it wasn't uncomfortable. 858 00:37:54,668 --> 00:37:57,334 Every now and then when he pays a visit, 859 00:37:57,367 --> 00:38:01,767 I won't even ask anymore, "Do you mind if I am Lulu?" 860 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,500 Just be yourself. Just be yourself! 861 00:38:04,534 --> 00:38:07,000 Leila was asking earlier on, "What's the difference 862 00:38:07,034 --> 00:38:08,800 between Lucas and Lulu?" 863 00:38:08,833 --> 00:38:10,467 And I remember you told me 864 00:38:10,501 --> 00:38:12,967 you were way more submissive as a woman. 865 00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:17,767 Yeah, definitely. As Lulu I'm definitely a submissive. 866 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,434 Big time sub. I don't want to call the shots. 867 00:38:21,468 --> 00:38:24,467 You have to call the shots. Because all my life 868 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:28,767 I'm giving orders, all my life I'm leading everybody 869 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,934 and as Lulu I don't want to lead. 870 00:38:31,967 --> 00:38:34,567 I must say, had some dirty thoughts about it 871 00:38:34,601 --> 00:38:36,467 and was hoping to have a threesome. 872 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:38,600 People understanding changing genders. 873 00:38:38,633 --> 00:38:40,134 They don't really understand 874 00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:41,900 I'm perfectly comfortable with my manhood and... 875 00:38:41,933 --> 00:38:43,567 Every time I meet somebody legitimate, 876 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,101 they're like, "(Beep), he's a stripper. 877 00:38:45,134 --> 00:38:47,100 I'm not going to take him seriously." 878 00:38:51,834 --> 00:38:54,767 I've never wanted a relationship while I was stripping. 879 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,834 I couldn't do that to someone. I couldn't do that to myself. 880 00:38:57,867 --> 00:39:00,967 Um... because there's so many temptations already. 881 00:39:01,001 --> 00:39:03,767 I mean, it's attention, right? Like, ladies are on you. 882 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,700 You have a sea of women to pick from every night. 883 00:39:06,733 --> 00:39:08,999 Of course it would be difficult to walk away. 884 00:39:09,033 --> 00:39:10,033 It's an attractive choice. 885 00:39:10,067 --> 00:39:11,867 Am I looking for a girlfriend? Yes. 886 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:15,233 Have I found one that meets my standards? No. 887 00:39:15,266 --> 00:39:16,733 Every time I meet someone legitimate, 888 00:39:16,766 --> 00:39:18,233 they're like, "(Beep), he's a stripper. 889 00:39:18,266 --> 00:39:20,000 I'm not going to take him seriously." 890 00:39:20,034 --> 00:39:23,300 If I was to be not stripping right now it's till kind of 891 00:39:23,333 --> 00:39:26,367 difficult to find someone who can accept the past. 892 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,634 Let it go and just accept that that was a part of me. 893 00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:32,634 It doesn't mean it is me, but it's a part of me. 894 00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:35,466 And is that something yo tell them right off the bat? 895 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,301 Yeah. 896 00:39:36,334 --> 00:39:38,201 She knew. I told her. Straight up. 897 00:39:38,234 --> 00:39:40,566 And she still want to have sex with you? 898 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,066 Yeah. 899 00:39:41,099 --> 00:39:42,100 She's dumb. 900 00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:43,000 Why? 901 00:39:43,033 --> 00:39:45,567 In your line of work it's risky business. 902 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,834 As much as you look good on the outside, 903 00:39:47,867 --> 00:39:50,100 you don't know what you're carrying on the inside. 904 00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:51,367 Yeah, I do. I'm clean. 905 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,901 You know. You totally could lie. 906 00:39:52,934 --> 00:39:56,233 You know how many people don't tell the truth? 907 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,667 In order to have an open relationship, 908 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:03,700 you have to have a pretty darn good relationship to begin with. 909 00:40:03,733 --> 00:40:06,267 The relation, it's open on both sides. 910 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:09,167 Like, she finds she's completely satisfied with me, 911 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,333 so... I want her to be happy. 912 00:40:11,366 --> 00:40:14,566 You know, I don't want to possess her. 913 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,967 It's important for me to present Leila to David so that he could 914 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,800 meet, you know, the woman that I chose to live my life with. 915 00:40:26,833 --> 00:40:29,833 I must say I had some, ah, dirty thoughts about it. 916 00:40:29,866 --> 00:40:31,301 Like, I was hoping, kinda... 917 00:40:31,334 --> 00:40:34,967 have a threesome and ah... but it never happened. 918 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,501 Like, David had fraternal love for her. 919 00:40:38,534 --> 00:40:41,000 Leila, she also, like, found that he was someone 920 00:40:41,034 --> 00:40:43,600 that was very loving, tha wasn't... didn't give off, like 921 00:40:43,634 --> 00:40:48,634 a raw sexual energy but more like a good friend to have. 922 00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:52,200 At the beginning when I started to dress up, 923 00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:54,666 yeah, there was a kind of a ritual... 924 00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:56,934 it was sexual at first, big time. 925 00:40:56,967 --> 00:40:59,701 It's hard for people around to understand what this is about. 926 00:40:59,734 --> 00:41:01,100 There's a lot of assumptions. 927 00:41:01,134 --> 00:41:02,900 "Oh, then you must be gay." 928 00:41:02,934 --> 00:41:06,068 Or, "Oh, you must want to become a woman." 929 00:41:06,101 --> 00:41:08,301 People understand changing genders. 930 00:41:08,335 --> 00:41:10,601 They don't necessarily understand, "I enjoy wearing 931 00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:13,434 the role every once in a while but you know what? 932 00:41:13,468 --> 00:41:16,034 I'm perfectly comfortable with my penis and I'm perfectly 933 00:41:16,068 --> 00:41:18,967 comfortable with my manhood and my malehood." 934 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,568 I'm very curious. 935 00:41:20,601 --> 00:41:24,734 I will have sexual intercourse either as Lucas or Lulu. 936 00:41:24,768 --> 00:41:26,567 It, it can get a little complicated. 937 00:41:26,601 --> 00:41:29,201 And even for the cross-dresser or the transsexual. 938 00:41:29,234 --> 00:41:31,467 Sometimes it gets a little murky. 939 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,200 And sometimes you have cross-dressers 940 00:41:33,234 --> 00:41:35,834 that end up going towards transgenderism. 941 00:41:35,867 --> 00:41:37,401 How are your feelings right now? 942 00:41:37,434 --> 00:41:42,367 How are you with, ah, your life and... about me? 943 00:41:42,401 --> 00:41:45,601 At first, it was unusual, you know, it's... 944 00:41:45,635 --> 00:41:48,401 it's kind of like seeing a UFO for the first time. 945 00:41:48,434 --> 00:41:50,668 You're just... you're just, like, "Oh. What is that?" 946 00:41:50,701 --> 00:41:53,000 you know? "I've seen the sky so many times. 947 00:41:53,034 --> 00:41:54,968 I've never seen that before." (laughs) 948 00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:57,767 I was just trying to make you feel even more comfortable. 949 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,168 Because that's the same day... 950 00:41:59,201 --> 00:42:01,434 You were nervous! You were nervous about my reaction. 951 00:42:01,467 --> 00:42:03,933 I had no clue how you would react. 952 00:42:03,966 --> 00:42:05,867 Lulu is part of me. 953 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:09,700 Lulu has nothing to do as a finish to me any more. 954 00:42:09,734 --> 00:42:13,200 It's just a normal thing to me. 955 00:42:13,234 --> 00:42:16,833 My biggest, biggest support is my wife. 956 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:18,867 My wife is so used to seeing Lulu... 957 00:42:18,901 --> 00:42:22,367 I'll be in male mode or female mode, to her it's... 958 00:42:22,401 --> 00:42:26,167 the same. It's just another normal day. 959 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,500 There's still quite a bit of intolerance, ah... 960 00:42:28,534 --> 00:42:30,233 especially with transgendered individuals. 961 00:42:30,267 --> 00:42:32,033 They still face a lot of discrimination 962 00:42:32,066 --> 00:42:33,567 and what have you. 963 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,868 Now I think gays and lesbians can do whatever they feel like. 964 00:42:38,901 --> 00:42:41,467 Now we have to do the same thing, us cross-dressers. 965 00:42:41,501 --> 00:42:44,466 We're not there yet. I'm working on it. (laughs) 966 00:42:44,499 --> 00:42:54,533 ♪ 967 00:42:54,533 --> 00:43:13,267 ♪ 968 00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:16,866 So, for somebody going into this type of work, 969 00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:18,667 what would you want someone to know? 970 00:43:18,701 --> 00:43:21,166 You know, if you want to be a stripper, great. 971 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,500 Don't let it consume you. 972 00:43:22,533 --> 00:43:25,634 Remain who you are and then be a stripper on the side. 973 00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:28,633 Right now there's no dream tour. The dream, for me, is over. 974 00:43:28,666 --> 00:43:30,566 I'm not gonna keep on doing it. 975 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,566 It's a stepping stone. 976 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:32,633 Yep. 977 00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:34,566 Uhhh... stripper rehab. Is there a stripper rehab?