1 00:00:46,066 --> 00:00:48,439 We climbed 'cause it's fun. 2 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,444 And mainly it was fun. 3 00:00:50,445 --> 00:00:51,710 That's all we ever did. 4 00:00:51,711 --> 00:00:55,590 And we were fairly anarchic and fairly irresponsible, 5 00:00:55,591 --> 00:00:58,719 and we didn't give a damn about anyone else or anything else, 6 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,416 and we just wanted to climb the world. And it was fun. 7 00:01:00,417 --> 00:01:02,482 It was just brilliant fun. 8 00:01:02,483 --> 00:01:06,654 And every now and then it went wildly wrong. And then it wasn't. 9 00:01:40,694 --> 00:01:44,865 Got into Peru when I was 25, Simon 21. 10 00:01:45,655 --> 00:01:49,824 But we had done a lot of climbing in the Alps. 11 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:03,928 To climb mountains that have not been climbed before, or a new route at a mountain 12 00:02:04,018 --> 00:02:08,189 is what my climbing life had been moving towards. 13 00:02:18,581 --> 00:02:22,006 A friend of us, who'd done an amazing amount of climbing in South-America 14 00:02:22,007 --> 00:02:26,178 had seen this face in the mid-70's. 15 00:02:26,983 --> 00:02:31,154 I think he said it would be a challenging day out. 16 00:02:38,735 --> 00:02:41,863 It was the last big mountain face in this range of mountains, 17 00:02:41,864 --> 00:02:46,035 that hadn't been climbed. 18 00:02:46,477 --> 00:02:49,422 There's a great unknown there. 19 00:02:49,423 --> 00:02:53,594 What's so compelling is stepping into that unknown. 20 00:03:28,221 --> 00:03:32,392 It was an isolated spot, a 2 - days walk from a road. 21 00:03:32,593 --> 00:03:34,596 The mountains all around seemed very big, 22 00:03:34,597 --> 00:03:38,768 compared to the mountains I'd seen in the Alps. 23 00:03:46,394 --> 00:03:50,106 We eventually reached a spot, on the approach to Siula Grande. 24 00:03:50,107 --> 00:03:54,278 You couldn't really take the donkeys any further than this point. 25 00:03:55,671 --> 00:03:59,842 I guess it would be 7-8 km from the bottom of the mountains. 26 00:04:06,628 --> 00:04:10,799 We knew Siula Grande was at the back, but we didn't see it. 27 00:04:16,209 --> 00:04:20,379 We'd met this lad called Richard Hawking in Lima. He'd been travelling on his own. 28 00:04:20,786 --> 00:04:24,619 And I think we said, "Why don't you just join us on our trip?" 29 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:28,723 I think he said that he didn't know anything about mountaineering. 30 00:04:28,724 --> 00:04:31,532 I didn't really know what pot of brew I was in. 31 00:04:31,533 --> 00:04:35,344 or quite, what I was letting myself in for. 32 00:04:35,345 --> 00:04:38,245 We wanted Richard because when we were on the mountain, 33 00:04:38,246 --> 00:04:41,145 if he were at base camp he could look after our kit. 34 00:04:41,146 --> 00:04:43,768 I got to know Simon quite well. 35 00:04:43,769 --> 00:04:47,606 I don't know whether it was because of his personality, 36 00:04:47,607 --> 00:04:51,185 or whether it was because he was more forgiving towards me, 37 00:04:51,186 --> 00:04:54,959 being a non-climber in that environment. 38 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,130 But I found it very hard to get to know Joe. 39 00:05:00,691 --> 00:05:04,862 I was much more ambitious about doing it than Simon was. 40 00:05:08,206 --> 00:05:10,957 Siula Grande meant a lot. 41 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:15,129 We knew, a number of expeditions had failed on it. 42 00:05:16,132 --> 00:05:18,476 If no one had tried, it wouldn't be quite the same. 43 00:05:18,477 --> 00:05:22,647 It was the the fact that people had tried and failed, so we knew it was hard. 44 00:05:24,030 --> 00:05:28,201 And my feeling was, "Well, we'll just do it. We're better than them." 45 00:05:37,824 --> 00:05:40,952 Since the 1970s people have been trying to climb 46 00:05:40,953 --> 00:05:45,124 mountains in the great ranges in what's called "Alpine style". 47 00:05:46,749 --> 00:05:50,292 And essentially, Alpine style means you pack a rucksack 48 00:05:50,293 --> 00:05:53,582 full of all your clothing, your food and your climbing equipment, 49 00:05:53,583 --> 00:05:56,711 and you start off from a base camp and you try and climb the mountain 50 00:05:56,712 --> 00:05:59,278 you're gonna climb in a single push. 51 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,215 You don't fix the line of ropes uphill beforehand, 52 00:06:02,216 --> 00:06:06,386 you don't have a set of camps that you stock and come down from. 53 00:06:07,136 --> 00:06:11,307 That's the purest style and that's the style that Joe and I had climbed Siula Grande. 54 00:06:15,786 --> 00:06:19,957 It's a very committing way of climbing, because you have no line of retreat. 55 00:06:23,141 --> 00:06:27,312 If something goes wrong, it can be very very serious. 56 00:06:27,506 --> 00:06:31,677 There's no rescue, there's no helicopter rescue and there's no other people. 57 00:06:32,547 --> 00:06:34,763 There's no margin for error. 58 00:06:34,764 --> 00:06:38,934 If you get badly hurt, you'I probably die. 59 00:06:46,473 --> 00:06:50,073 I hadn't seen it from this angle, and it looked steep. 60 00:06:50,074 --> 00:06:54,244 I sort of thought, you know, "Christ, that's big". 61 00:06:58,416 --> 00:07:01,544 Looks harder than I thought and than I expected. 62 00:07:01,545 --> 00:07:05,716 But I was excited. 63 00:07:21,817 --> 00:07:24,292 Starting doing it was brilliant. 64 00:07:24,293 --> 00:07:28,464 This is what we live for. 65 00:07:54,416 --> 00:07:56,456 I love the actual movement of climbing. 66 00:07:56,457 --> 00:07:59,223 When you're climbing well it just feels brilliant. 67 00:07:59,224 --> 00:08:03,000 It's like a combination between ballet and gymnastics. 68 00:08:03,001 --> 00:08:07,172 It's that mixture of power and grace. 69 00:08:11,972 --> 00:08:16,143 For me, mountains are the most beautiful places in the world. 70 00:08:16,608 --> 00:08:20,479 When I go into these places I feel an amazing sense of space, 71 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,119 an amazing sense of freedom, when I get away 72 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,291 from all of the clutter that we have in the world. 73 00:09:00,219 --> 00:09:04,390 I think we surprised ourselves as we got up the icefield about 300m, 74 00:09:04,421 --> 00:09:08,477 and got up to a point where the ice is running through rock bands, 75 00:09:08,478 --> 00:09:12,648 and you've got vertical cascades. 76 00:09:14,474 --> 00:09:18,645 We started intricately climbing through these. 77 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,273 The fact, that you are tied to your partner, 78 00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:38,445 means that you put an immense amount of trust in someone else's skill and ability. 79 00:09:40,769 --> 00:09:43,593 But at some point, you may be thinking, 80 00:09:43,594 --> 00:09:47,765 "For god's sake, Simon, don't fall here, for god's sake, don't fall here" 81 00:09:53,424 --> 00:09:57,420 The rope can be something that rather than save your life, could kill you. 82 00:09:57,421 --> 00:10:00,549 If your mate falls off then all this gear rips out, you're dead, 83 00:10:00,550 --> 00:10:04,437 you're gonna go with him. 84 00:10:04,438 --> 00:10:08,609 If you're gonna do that sort of climbing at some point you're gonna have to rely 85 00:10:08,999 --> 00:10:13,169 wholly on your partner. 86 00:10:20,589 --> 00:10:23,718 I think we were very pleased at the end of that first day. 87 00:10:23,719 --> 00:10:25,806 We had done a lot of climbing, good climbing. 88 00:10:25,807 --> 00:10:29,978 And we were very confident at that point that we should make it. 89 00:10:34,938 --> 00:10:38,742 That altitude, you dehydrate enormously. 90 00:10:38,743 --> 00:10:41,799 You have to drink a lot of fluid, 4-5 liters a day. 91 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,971 And the only way you can get it, is by melting snow. 92 00:10:47,501 --> 00:10:49,459 Everything is so time-consuming. 93 00:10:49,461 --> 00:10:53,209 To make a single brew at that altitude takes a very long time, 94 00:10:53,210 --> 00:10:57,380 You're perhaps looking at an hour just to make a couple of cups. 95 00:10:57,685 --> 00:11:01,104 For that reason, we perhaps didn't brew up as much as we should have done 96 00:11:01,105 --> 00:11:05,276 but we didn't have an awful lot of spare gas with us, either. 97 00:11:15,986 --> 00:11:20,156 There's not a lot of risk in our lives normally now. 98 00:11:23,761 --> 00:11:27,931 And to put an element of risk back into it takes us out of the humdrum. 99 00:11:30,535 --> 00:11:34,706 In that sense, it makes you feel more alive. 100 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:43,781 I've never been that high before, and it's 101 00:11:43,782 --> 00:11:47,953 very very strenuous to climb ice like that. 102 00:11:51,343 --> 00:11:54,137 Not only is it technically difficult and unstable and frightening, 103 00:11:54,138 --> 00:11:58,308 but your heart is going like crazy because of the altitude. 104 00:12:48,729 --> 00:12:52,900 It would now go very cold indeed. 105 00:12:53,149 --> 00:12:57,319 And we were up 5800-6000m, it was windy. 106 00:12:57,690 --> 00:12:59,053 Then it started snowing, and it meant 107 00:12:59,055 --> 00:13:03,225 that the whole face was pooring with powdersnow avalanches. 108 00:13:17,479 --> 00:13:20,371 The snow would actually stick on the outside of your clothing. 109 00:13:20,372 --> 00:13:24,543 It would then freeze on top of you, like you're wearing a suit of armor. 110 00:13:34,197 --> 00:13:36,260 The last section on the face 111 00:13:36,261 --> 00:13:40,432 was about 100m of the most nightmarish climbing. 112 00:13:41,653 --> 00:13:44,898 Completely unstable powder snow. 113 00:13:44,899 --> 00:13:48,273 No anchors at any point. 114 00:13:48,274 --> 00:13:52,444 It was physically very, very tiring, full-body climbing really. 115 00:14:02,552 --> 00:14:06,723 It took us the best part of 5 or 6 hours to climb about 65 meters. 116 00:14:15,688 --> 00:14:19,317 Carried on way after it got dark. 117 00:14:19,318 --> 00:14:22,562 I was getting extremely cold, 'cause I was sitting still 118 00:14:22,563 --> 00:14:25,447 while Simon was trying to climb. 119 00:14:25,448 --> 00:14:28,327 I was getting near hypothermic. 120 00:14:28,328 --> 00:14:31,045 You just knew that if you'd just carried on, regardless, 121 00:14:31,046 --> 00:14:33,870 it was gonna go tits up. 122 00:14:33,871 --> 00:14:38,042 So we dug a snow cave. 123 00:14:53,861 --> 00:14:56,190 In the morning, in good weather, 124 00:14:56,191 --> 00:15:00,361 we actually saw what we'd been trying to climb. 125 00:15:08,157 --> 00:15:10,566 It was this undeering nightmare of 126 00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:14,737 flutings of the finest powder gouged out by snow falling down 127 00:15:16,215 --> 00:15:20,385 meringues, and mushrooms, and cornices all over the place. 128 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:26,893 We'd heard about these strange powder snow conditions you get in the Andes, 129 00:15:26,979 --> 00:15:29,814 and we've never seen it before. 130 00:15:29,815 --> 00:15:33,986 I don't know the physics that explains why powder snow can stay on such steep slopes. 131 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,091 In the Alps it would just slide off if the slope was about 40 degrees. 132 00:15:44,305 --> 00:15:48,475 It is some of the most precarious, unnerving and dangerous climbing I've ever done. 133 00:15:58,501 --> 00:16:01,629 We were actually scared, that we would get to an impass, 134 00:16:01,630 --> 00:16:04,188 where we couldn't climb any further up. 135 00:16:04,189 --> 00:16:07,317 Because we knew we wouldn't be able to get back down, 136 00:16:07,318 --> 00:16:07,710 not what we've already climbed. 137 00:16:07,711 --> 00:16:11,882 We were climbing ourselves into a trap. 138 00:16:12,999 --> 00:16:17,169 And not only that, we could see this 150 meter drop that was waiting for us. 139 00:16:27,060 --> 00:16:30,942 And so it was with great relief that by 14:00, 140 00:16:30,943 --> 00:16:34,590 we got onto the north ridge and on the west face. 141 00:16:34,592 --> 00:16:38,762 And we vowed that we didn't want to go near any of the flutings again. 142 00:16:47,783 --> 00:16:51,954 We were pretty tired, by the time we got onto the ridge, 143 00:16:53,465 --> 00:16:56,610 I was knackered. And I remember thinking, 144 00:16:56,611 --> 00:16:58,414 "Oh sod it, we've done the face," 145 00:16:58,415 --> 00:17:01,448 "now I can't really be bothered to go all the way up there" 146 00:17:01,449 --> 00:17:05,620 And then we thought, "Hang on, we've come all this way," 147 00:17:06,516 --> 00:17:10,687 "we might as well stand on the top" 148 00:18:27,074 --> 00:18:31,245 I don't particularly like summits, because 80% of accidents happen on descent. 149 00:18:38,395 --> 00:18:41,729 We decided before we even climbed the face that we were going to come down 150 00:18:41,730 --> 00:18:44,037 the north ridge of the mountain, down to a cul 151 00:18:44,038 --> 00:18:47,964 between the mountain Siula Grande and another mountain called Yerupaja. 152 00:18:47,965 --> 00:18:52,136 and then we'd be able to abseil down the smaller section of the face. 153 00:18:58,575 --> 00:19:02,746 Already the clouds were coming in from the east. Big clouds. 154 00:19:11,193 --> 00:19:14,321 We expected this ridge to be quite straightforward, 155 00:19:14,323 --> 00:19:15,631 quite an easy way to descend. 156 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:18,411 We were hoping, we would be able to sort of walk. 157 00:19:18,412 --> 00:19:22,291 And it turned out to be very difficult. 158 00:19:22,292 --> 00:19:24,485 It was horrendous. 159 00:19:24,486 --> 00:19:27,901 Vertical on the west side, with the cornices overhanging the west side, 160 00:19:27,902 --> 00:19:32,073 and on the east side steep fleetings running down 100m below us. 161 00:19:36,345 --> 00:19:39,252 It was a shock. And it was quite dangerous. 162 00:19:39,253 --> 00:19:43,424 It all got a bit out of control. That stage of things. 163 00:19:55,407 --> 00:19:59,139 Half an hour to an hour after leaving the summit, we were lost. 164 00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:03,311 We were in the wild now, we couldn't see anything. 165 00:20:12,395 --> 00:20:15,524 Then we got like a little break in the clouds and I saw the ridge, 166 00:20:15,525 --> 00:20:19,695 so I started climbing back up to it. 167 00:20:29,051 --> 00:20:31,374 I didn't know it was the side of the ridge I was on, but 168 00:20:31,375 --> 00:20:35,545 it was actually an enormous cornice, an overhang of snow and ice, 169 00:20:36,223 --> 00:20:40,394 and I was walking up over the top of it. 170 00:21:00,576 --> 00:21:04,746 I was left hanging, looking down, as all this snow and ice 171 00:21:05,035 --> 00:21:09,206 then fell away from me, down the west side of the Siula Grande. 172 00:21:12,506 --> 00:21:15,634 I got back up on the ridge and shouted then to Joe 173 00:21:15,635 --> 00:21:17,596 that I'd found the ridge, like that, I said, 174 00:21:17,598 --> 00:21:21,767 "I found the ridge, Joe!" 175 00:21:22,365 --> 00:21:25,211 We'd hoped to go down that day, 176 00:21:25,212 --> 00:21:28,664 but by the time it got dark, we were still very high. 177 00:21:28,665 --> 00:21:31,599 Still at 6000m. 178 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,770 And that night, as we made a brew, the gas ran out. 179 00:21:55,572 --> 00:21:57,411 It was pretty obvious the following morning 180 00:21:57,412 --> 00:22:00,434 that we descended the worst part of the ridge. 181 00:22:00,435 --> 00:22:04,606 And I was pretty confident that we'd get back down to the base camp that day. 182 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:10,037 I thought at that stage it was pretty much in the bag I suppose, the whole climb. 183 00:22:12,505 --> 00:22:15,910 I was ahead of Simon, 184 00:22:15,911 --> 00:22:20,082 and suddenly there was this vertical wall, bisecting the ridge. 185 00:22:21,489 --> 00:22:25,660 I then get on my hands and knees, and hammer both my axes into the ice at the top 186 00:22:25,876 --> 00:22:30,047 and then lower myself off the ice cliff. 187 00:22:33,391 --> 00:22:37,561 When you hammer the axe in, you listen to the sound it makes. And you look at it. 188 00:22:39,761 --> 00:22:43,461 Now I was hanging with both axes, right. I took the hammer out, and 189 00:22:43,462 --> 00:22:45,745 what I wanted to do is now place it in the vertical wall. 190 00:22:45,746 --> 00:22:49,917 And I swung, and the pick went in, and it just made a... 191 00:22:50,775 --> 00:22:54,895 just a strange sound. 192 00:22:54,896 --> 00:22:57,762 And I thought, "Well, I'll take it out, make a good placement." 193 00:22:57,764 --> 00:23:01,934 So I just wanted to put bona... dead solid axe placements in. All the way down. 194 00:23:04,336 --> 00:23:08,506 And I was about to swing at the ice again 195 00:23:25,746 --> 00:23:28,811 The pain is... came flooding down my thigh 196 00:23:28,812 --> 00:23:32,983 and my knee was very, very very painful 197 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,531 The impact drove my lower leg straight through my knee joint. 198 00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:49,561 As the bone went into my tibia it split the tibial plateau straight off 199 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:56,831 and carried on up. 200 00:24:02,468 --> 00:24:06,639 Quite wild, the pain now. I couldn't cope with it at first. 201 00:24:11,167 --> 00:24:14,589 I just breathed on and it started to go and I can remember looking across 202 00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:17,749 to the west and seeing that we were level with the summit of Rasac, 203 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:20,954 so I had a height gauge, where we were. 204 00:24:20,955 --> 00:24:24,487 and I just thought, "fuck, I can't have broken my leg", 205 00:24:24,488 --> 00:24:28,659 "If I have broken my leg I'm dead." 206 00:24:47,396 --> 00:24:50,071 And then the rope went slack. 207 00:24:50,072 --> 00:24:54,242 I knew that meant that Simon was coming towards me. 208 00:25:07,805 --> 00:25:10,826 I couldn't feel any bone under anything. 209 00:25:10,827 --> 00:25:13,760 I brought my hand down, there's no blood on it, 210 00:25:13,761 --> 00:25:15,189 and the pain had gone down a little bit. 211 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:18,235 And I thought, maybe I was being a bit whacked, 212 00:25:18,236 --> 00:25:22,407 I'd just torn a ligament or something. 213 00:25:26,108 --> 00:25:30,279 I tried to stand on it 214 00:25:30,945 --> 00:25:35,116 I felt all the bone go, all grating and everything and I knew it was broken then. 215 00:25:46,505 --> 00:25:49,354 The look that he gave to me sticks in my mind 216 00:25:49,355 --> 00:25:53,383 A look of shock and desperation and a sort of terror. 217 00:25:53,384 --> 00:25:57,554 Lots of things in a single look. 218 00:25:58,447 --> 00:26:00,594 And he said, "Are you ok?" 219 00:26:00,595 --> 00:26:04,766 I think it did occur to me to say, "Yeah, I'm fine". That was stupid. 220 00:26:05,658 --> 00:26:09,828 I think I said, "No, I've broken my leg". 221 00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:15,581 Immediately, just doom. I thought "god, we're stuffed". 222 00:26:18,141 --> 00:26:22,312 We're gonna be doing well if either of us gets out of this now. 223 00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:27,225 It did come into my mind, just thinking, 224 00:26:27,226 --> 00:26:31,397 "If he slips off the side of the mountain now, then I can just clear off," 225 00:26:31,790 --> 00:26:35,961 "and leave him and get myself down and I don't have to have all the hassle," 226 00:26:36,957 --> 00:26:41,127 "of trying to deal with him and with the situation we're in". 227 00:26:45,222 --> 00:26:48,350 He gave me these painkillers which were effectively headache tablets. 228 00:26:48,351 --> 00:26:52,522 And he didn't really talk about anything. 229 00:26:53,741 --> 00:26:57,688 It was almost as if he... He knew, what this meant. 230 00:26:57,689 --> 00:27:01,860 He knew, and I knew, that he was going to have to leave me. 231 00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:07,195 He could have said something like "I'm just going to get some help" 232 00:27:07,196 --> 00:27:11,207 and I'd gone "right, yeah" 233 00:27:11,208 --> 00:27:13,424 'Cause I knew there wasn't any help. 234 00:27:13,425 --> 00:27:17,097 That'd been an easy way for him to say it. 235 00:27:17,098 --> 00:27:21,269 I didn't think we really seriously thought that there was any choice 236 00:27:30,876 --> 00:27:35,047 I couldn't put my finger on it, why I thought something had happened. 237 00:27:36,706 --> 00:27:40,876 And I started to think "Is one of them dead, or are both of them dead?" 238 00:27:42,476 --> 00:27:46,034 Even "If one of them is dead", not "which one do I want to be dead", but 239 00:27:46,035 --> 00:27:50,206 "if one comes back, who do I want it to be?" 240 00:27:51,508 --> 00:27:53,424 It's kind of, quite cold to say it, but I guess 241 00:27:53,425 --> 00:27:57,595 I would rather have it would have been Simon. 242 00:28:00,657 --> 00:28:04,827 I thought, "oh, he's not leaving" 243 00:28:08,727 --> 00:28:12,897 I calmed down a bit and managed to focus myself again 244 00:28:13,089 --> 00:28:17,260 to think how I was going to get him down the mountain. 245 00:28:20,702 --> 00:28:24,604 We discussed, between us, what we were going to have to do. 246 00:28:24,605 --> 00:28:27,579 We thought, well, we got 2 ropes that are 50m long. 247 00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:31,751 And if we tie them together we have a 100m rope with a knot in the middle of it. 248 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:35,359 So I tied to one end and Simon tied to the other, 249 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,531 in theory he could lower me down 100m. 250 00:28:42,181 --> 00:28:45,455 To really get anchors to lower him from that do matter, 251 00:28:45,456 --> 00:28:49,627 what I did was cut a bucket in the snow, sit in there and brace myself. 252 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:54,161 And I sort of lay down between his legs. 253 00:28:55,503 --> 00:28:59,673 And Simon started lowering then. 254 00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:07,405 I'd lower him one rope length, 50m, 255 00:29:07,406 --> 00:29:10,174 and then the knot would come up between the two ropes. 256 00:29:10,175 --> 00:29:13,382 Now the knot would not go through the belay plates. 257 00:29:13,383 --> 00:29:15,246 So he would stop me. 258 00:29:15,247 --> 00:29:17,156 I would stand on my left leg, my good leg, 259 00:29:17,157 --> 00:29:20,224 so that I could get the weight off the rope. 260 00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:23,284 I gave him enough slack to be able to unclip the rope 261 00:29:23,285 --> 00:29:27,455 thread the rope back through the lowering device, with the knot on the other side 262 00:29:28,059 --> 00:29:32,230 clip it back to himself and lower me the remaining 50m. 263 00:29:39,755 --> 00:29:43,925 He'd make himself reasonably secure, and I down climbed to join him. 264 00:29:44,436 --> 00:29:48,606 And we'd repeat the process again. 265 00:29:50,980 --> 00:29:52,934 Simon was trying to lower me fast, 266 00:29:52,935 --> 00:29:57,106 and it meant that my foot kept jabbing in and jabbing in and bending the knee. 267 00:29:58,856 --> 00:30:01,273 Excruciatingly painful. 268 00:30:01,274 --> 00:30:04,876 I can remember feeling angry with him because he was hurting me, 269 00:30:04,877 --> 00:30:06,299 and I was thinking "do it slow", 270 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:10,470 and I also knew that he had to do it this fast. He hadn't got a choice. 271 00:30:12,138 --> 00:30:16,308 And he was very grim faced, I remember looking at him, 272 00:30:17,847 --> 00:30:22,018 wondering if he was pissed off with the whole thing. 273 00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:26,864 I couldn't take too much notice unfortunately of these cries of pain, 274 00:30:27,468 --> 00:30:31,638 because we got to go down. 275 00:30:36,661 --> 00:30:39,980 We would dig these holes from the sitting in the powder snow, 276 00:30:39,981 --> 00:30:44,111 and they would last about the length of the time it took to lower me. 277 00:30:44,112 --> 00:30:46,768 And in fact they were crumbling around him. 278 00:30:46,769 --> 00:30:50,796 And he was lowering me on a 9mm, well 8.8mm rope. That's that thick. 279 00:30:50,797 --> 00:30:53,857 But hands sort of frozen. 280 00:30:53,858 --> 00:30:55,463 What he did was quite extraordinary, 281 00:30:55,464 --> 00:30:59,634 and I've never heard of any single handed mountain rescue like that. 282 00:31:14,114 --> 00:31:17,931 We were now lowering in a full storm. I don't know what the wind chill factor was, 283 00:31:17,932 --> 00:31:21,134 but it would be like -80 or something like that. 284 00:31:21,135 --> 00:31:25,306 I lost a liter of blood in my leg, I was in shock and severly dehydrated 285 00:31:27,752 --> 00:31:31,532 It was a point where we should have dug a snow cave and taken shelter, 286 00:31:31,533 --> 00:31:35,703 got in our sleeping bags and made a hot brew, and rehydrate. 287 00:31:36,885 --> 00:31:39,278 We couldn't, 'cause we'd run out of gas. 288 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,192 And we just lost control at this point because we couldn't dig a snow cave, 289 00:31:43,193 --> 00:31:47,363 and risk getting trapped by a storm that didn't break. 290 00:32:43,841 --> 00:32:48,011 It was all starting to look up in many ways at that point, as we were virtually down. 291 00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:56,309 And I started to slowly think, 292 00:32:56,310 --> 00:33:00,481 "maybe after this one we will have one more, and we'll be on the glacier". 293 00:33:02,777 --> 00:33:05,641 And suddenly all got hard on my elbows, and icy, 294 00:33:05,642 --> 00:33:09,519 and it got steeper, going down a slope and suddenly it's steeper, 295 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,691 and I just was full of alarm. 296 00:33:16,464 --> 00:33:20,635 I was screaming at Simon to stop as loud as I could, and he just couldn't hear me. 297 00:33:34,116 --> 00:33:38,085 I did notice that more weight came onto the rope, 298 00:33:38,086 --> 00:33:41,214 but didn't really think a lot about this. And I just thought, 299 00:33:41,215 --> 00:33:44,760 "Well, he's going over some steeper ground" 300 00:33:44,761 --> 00:33:48,931 When I looked down, and I glimpsed 'cause there was a big drop underneath me, 301 00:33:50,945 --> 00:33:55,116 I was horrified to discover what I'd gone over. 302 00:33:55,419 --> 00:33:59,590 And I could clearly see that there was a large crevice directly under the cliff, 303 00:33:59,702 --> 00:34:03,872 about 25m below me. 304 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:09,071 I was trying to get my axes to see if I could reach this wall that was out there, 305 00:34:09,155 --> 00:34:13,326 I think, almost as I start and try to do that, I started being lowered again. 306 00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:16,973 And I was thinking, "Christ, don't do it, don't do it", 307 00:34:16,974 --> 00:34:21,145 'cause I knew, that there wasn't enough rope to get me to the bottom. 308 00:34:21,634 --> 00:34:23,475 And if I couldn't get my weight off the rope, 309 00:34:23,476 --> 00:34:25,566 he couldn't disconnect the rope, to get on the other side. 310 00:34:25,567 --> 00:34:29,010 And I knew all this, and I was screaming again, not to lower me. 311 00:34:29,011 --> 00:34:33,181 I carried on lowering him, until I reached the knot, then shook the rope. 312 00:34:34,221 --> 00:34:38,392 My signal to him, to take the weight off the rope. 313 00:34:40,116 --> 00:34:43,367 And nothing happened. 314 00:34:43,368 --> 00:34:47,538 And nothing continued to happen. 315 00:35:13,934 --> 00:35:18,104 I knew, that the only way out of this is if I could climb up the rope. 316 00:35:33,233 --> 00:35:37,404 I had two prusik loops. Prusik loops are thin cords of rope. 317 00:35:39,313 --> 00:35:43,484 And if you use a special twisting knot on the rope, you can slide it up the rope, 318 00:35:44,387 --> 00:35:46,491 and pull on it, and the knot grips the rope. 319 00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:49,756 Clip a snapping to it and then a sling to it, and you can stand up. 320 00:35:49,757 --> 00:35:53,652 And if you got another one, tied above it, you slide that one up, 321 00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:57,824 Standing this loop is now higher. 322 00:36:06,770 --> 00:36:10,800 I was trying to hold myself upright, to keep the rope in place. 323 00:36:10,801 --> 00:36:13,740 And then trying to put this knot through itself, and through itself, 324 00:36:13,741 --> 00:36:17,912 and this fiddly bloody rope... it is just hard to describe how I couldn't do it. 325 00:36:17,961 --> 00:36:20,652 Because my fingers, I just couldn't feel the fingers at all. 326 00:36:20,653 --> 00:36:24,414 And I'd be looking and trying to push the thing in, and using my teeth, 327 00:36:24,415 --> 00:36:28,586 and getting it round, and getting it round. 328 00:36:32,565 --> 00:36:36,735 My hands were cold, my feet were... I was very very cold. 329 00:36:40,546 --> 00:36:44,452 It was a desperate position, made worse by the fact that that I had no idea 330 00:36:44,454 --> 00:36:48,624 what Joe was doing, or what position he was in. 331 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:53,120 I just couldn't figure out why it was taking him so long to get his weight off the rope, 332 00:36:55,271 --> 00:36:59,442 there was no sensible explanation for it. 333 00:37:04,083 --> 00:37:08,253 I got one on, and I clipped it to my chest, because that would keep me upright. 334 00:37:09,355 --> 00:37:13,526 And I tried to put the other one on, and I had real trouble with my hands. 335 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:26,231 And I dropped the bloody thing, and I watched it fall. 336 00:37:27,268 --> 00:37:31,439 And I knew that I was stuffed then. 337 00:37:32,432 --> 00:37:35,221 I just thought, "Well, I can't climb the rope", 338 00:37:35,222 --> 00:37:36,924 this idea that you can climb a rope hand over hand, you can't, 339 00:37:36,925 --> 00:37:41,096 especially when your hands are frozen. You just can't do it. 340 00:37:50,503 --> 00:37:54,674 Nothing I can do, and I felt completely helpless. 341 00:37:55,043 --> 00:37:59,214 And really angry. 342 00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:12,421 There was nothing I could do. I couldn't get the weight off the rope, 343 00:38:12,422 --> 00:38:16,593 I was just there, and this went on for maybe an hour and a half, 344 00:38:17,196 --> 00:38:20,698 during which time my position became more and more desperate. 345 00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:24,870 I was struggling to maintain the, sort of shivery seat that I sat in, 346 00:38:26,973 --> 00:38:31,144 and the snow was gradually sliding away from under me. 347 00:38:33,716 --> 00:38:37,886 So my position was getting desperate. 348 00:38:45,585 --> 00:38:49,756 I think psychologically I was beaten. 349 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:51,942 'Cause there was nothing I could do, 350 00:38:51,943 --> 00:38:56,114 so I just hung on the rope and waited to die. 351 00:38:57,368 --> 00:39:01,538 And I think I would have died pretty soon, actually. The wind chill was very low. 352 00:39:15,524 --> 00:39:19,695 I was literally going down the mountain in little, jerky stages. 353 00:39:20,476 --> 00:39:24,645 'Cause this soft, sugary snow collapsed away underneath me. 354 00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:30,769 I was expecting him to come off, and couldn't do anything about it. 355 00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:34,834 He was gonna fall about 100m. 356 00:39:34,835 --> 00:39:39,005 50m away from me, he was gonna fall double that, he was gonna die. 357 00:39:41,169 --> 00:39:45,132 And he really didn't know, whether I was meters off the ground, or centimeters, 358 00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:49,304 he just didn't know. But he knew, I think, pretty sadly, that he was gonna die. 359 00:39:54,784 --> 00:39:58,954 Then I remembered that I've got a pen knife in the top of my rucksack. 360 00:40:01,843 --> 00:40:06,014 I took the decision pretty quickly. 361 00:40:06,223 --> 00:40:10,393 To me, it just seemed like the right thing to do under the circumstances. 362 00:40:15,115 --> 00:40:19,286 Because there was no way that I could maintain where I was, 363 00:40:19,390 --> 00:40:23,560 sooner or later, I was going to be pulled from the mountain. 364 00:40:26,557 --> 00:40:30,065 I took the rucksack off, and then unzipped the top pocket with one hand, 365 00:40:30,066 --> 00:40:34,237 and got the pen knife out. 366 00:40:50,139 --> 00:40:54,309 Boof! 367 00:41:28,181 --> 00:41:30,163 It was an awful night. 368 00:41:30,164 --> 00:41:34,221 My mind was plagued with the thoughts of what had happened to Joe. 369 00:41:34,222 --> 00:41:38,393 It took a long time to warm myself up. And I didn't properly, I guess. 370 00:41:39,657 --> 00:41:43,828 Had a very, very cold night. 371 00:41:46,952 --> 00:41:51,032 The overriding memory is just feeling desperately, desperately thirsty. 372 00:41:51,033 --> 00:41:55,203 To the point where I felt I could smell the water in the snow around me. 373 00:41:56,848 --> 00:41:59,359 I felt that very strongly. 374 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,531 It was quite a strange thing. 375 00:42:55,493 --> 00:42:57,438 I didn't know what had happened. 376 00:42:57,439 --> 00:43:00,568 What I landed on wasn't flat, it was sloped on each side. 377 00:43:00,569 --> 00:43:04,740 And I was sliding, in the dark. 378 00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:13,121 I think I must have fallen about 50m in total. 379 00:43:13,122 --> 00:43:17,293 I was pretty surprised to be alive. 380 00:43:31,201 --> 00:43:34,329 The head torch beam just went down, and down, and down, 381 00:43:34,330 --> 00:43:38,501 and the darkness just ate it, just gone. 382 00:43:38,911 --> 00:43:42,451 I felt very unnerved, very very vulnerable. 383 00:43:42,452 --> 00:43:46,623 If I had landed less than 1m further to the right, 384 00:43:47,145 --> 00:43:51,316 I would have just gone down this huge hole. 385 00:43:52,857 --> 00:43:57,027 I got this ice screw in, pretty quickly. 386 00:44:04,695 --> 00:44:08,191 And then looked around, and thinking, 387 00:44:08,192 --> 00:44:12,361 "Jezus, it's gonna be nearly impossible to get out of" 388 00:44:21,116 --> 00:44:25,287 My rope was going all the way up, 25m, up to this small entry hall. 389 00:44:25,472 --> 00:44:29,642 And I thought, Simon is on the end of that. 390 00:44:31,683 --> 00:44:35,854 But I felt sure he was dead. And it didn't mean anything. 391 00:44:35,987 --> 00:44:39,592 I just thought, "If I pull on this rope, it will come tight on his body". 392 00:44:39,593 --> 00:44:43,763 Because he would have flown off the cliff, on to the downside of the crevice, 393 00:44:44,097 --> 00:44:47,002 and then, Iying dead there, like a counterweight, 394 00:44:47,003 --> 00:44:51,041 the rope would have come back up and then dropped into the crevice. 395 00:44:51,042 --> 00:44:55,213 So I thought, if I pull on this rope it will come tight on his body". 396 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,490 And it just kept coming, and coming, and coming, 397 00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:33,311 As soon as I saw it, I knew it had been cut. 398 00:45:41,424 --> 00:45:45,594 I thought, "you're gonna die in here". 399 00:45:47,048 --> 00:45:51,219 I had a pleased feeling, that it meant that Simon was alive. 400 00:45:54,833 --> 00:45:59,003 Simon! 401 00:46:09,123 --> 00:46:13,292 Looking where I was was an awful prospect. 402 00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:17,608 You don't die of a broken leg. 403 00:46:27,550 --> 00:46:31,720 I think I did turn my head torch off to save the batteries. 404 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:50,151 It was dark, and it began to get to me. 405 00:46:59,124 --> 00:47:02,308 There is something about crevices, 406 00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:06,480 they have a dread feel, not the place for the living. 407 00:47:14,586 --> 00:47:18,757 I could hear the ice cracking, and wind noises in the ice. 408 00:47:23,377 --> 00:47:27,547 I turned the light on again, 'cause I didn't like it in the dark. 409 00:47:40,754 --> 00:47:44,924 I felt very, very alone. 410 00:47:46,326 --> 00:47:50,497 And I was very scared. 411 00:47:50,859 --> 00:47:55,030 I was 25, I was fit, I was super ambitious. 412 00:47:58,508 --> 00:48:02,678 And this was the first trip I've been on. I wanted to climb the world, 413 00:48:03,383 --> 00:48:07,554 and it just didn't seem... this hadn't been part of our game plan. 414 00:48:14,462 --> 00:48:16,590 It must have been quite late. 415 00:48:16,591 --> 00:48:20,762 I think that I pretty much was thinking that I wasn't gonna get out. 416 00:48:24,597 --> 00:48:28,768 Fuck. Stupid, stupid... 417 00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:10,391 As a climber you should always be in control, you have to be in control. 418 00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:14,991 So doing that, you could be seen as half a failure. You lost it. 419 00:49:38,645 --> 00:49:41,773 This is childish. I just cried and cried. 420 00:49:41,774 --> 00:49:45,944 I thought, 421 00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:51,421 I'd be tougher than that. 422 00:50:20,425 --> 00:50:24,596 It was getting light, as it was 5 or 6. 423 00:50:25,541 --> 00:50:29,712 And I started screaming Simon's name again. 424 00:50:34,726 --> 00:50:38,897 I got myself up, got dressed inside the snow home and packed everything away, 425 00:50:45,373 --> 00:50:47,126 Just a horrible feeling of dread. 426 00:50:47,127 --> 00:50:51,297 By this stage, I strongly felt that Joe had been killed the previous day. 427 00:50:51,970 --> 00:50:56,141 And that now I was going to die, as some form of retribution. 428 00:51:00,264 --> 00:51:04,434 But rather than just sit here, feeling sorry for myself or whatever, 429 00:51:05,295 --> 00:51:09,466 "I'll get on with it and I'll die on the way down". 430 00:51:13,184 --> 00:51:15,837 Very quickly, the ground dropped away steeply. 431 00:51:15,838 --> 00:51:20,008 So I skirted around this area of steeper ground. 432 00:51:26,856 --> 00:51:30,388 As I abseiled down, I could see this overhanging ice cliff, 433 00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:32,693 which was what I had lowered him over, 434 00:51:32,694 --> 00:51:35,575 so I knew that he'd had actually been hanging in space, 435 00:51:35,576 --> 00:51:39,747 which is the reason he couldn't get his weight off the rope. 436 00:51:41,473 --> 00:51:44,252 And as I went down lower, I could see to my horror, 437 00:51:44,253 --> 00:51:48,423 that the base of this ice cliff was an absolutely enormous crevice, 438 00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:54,551 that's 12m wide and just bottomless from where I was looking at it. 439 00:52:01,933 --> 00:52:05,075 SIMON! 440 00:52:05,076 --> 00:52:07,001 He would have been up with first light, I thought. 441 00:52:07,002 --> 00:52:09,375 'Cause I was desperately, desperately thirsty. 442 00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:13,547 And he would have been. And he would have wanted to get down, and get water. 443 00:52:14,447 --> 00:52:17,158 And he would have wanted to find me. 444 00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:20,750 Now I did stop and pause, and I shouted across into the crevice, 445 00:52:20,751 --> 00:52:24,922 and I yelled and yelled, "Joe, Joe". 446 00:52:25,146 --> 00:52:29,316 And I suppose again, with the benefit of hindsight, 447 00:52:29,404 --> 00:52:33,574 after I got off the rope, I should have gone and looked, 448 00:52:33,627 --> 00:52:37,007 into the crevice, to see where he was. 449 00:52:37,008 --> 00:52:41,179 But to be quite honest, the thought didn't occur to me at that time. 450 00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:47,871 I was just convinced he was dead. 451 00:52:54,388 --> 00:52:58,559 Absolutely convinced, by 10, totally convinced, that I was on my own. 452 00:53:00,808 --> 00:53:04,978 That no one was coming to get me. 453 00:53:09,205 --> 00:53:12,759 I was brought up as a devout Catholic. 454 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,746 I had long since stopped believing in God. 455 00:53:15,747 --> 00:53:19,917 I always wondered, if things really hit the fan, whether I would, under pressure, 456 00:53:20,935 --> 00:53:25,106 turn around and say a few Hail Mary's, and say "get me out of here". 457 00:53:27,565 --> 00:53:31,263 It never once occurred to me. 458 00:53:31,264 --> 00:53:33,741 It meant that I really don't believe. 459 00:53:33,742 --> 00:53:37,912 And I really do think that when you die, you die. That's it, there's no afterlife. 460 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,771 There's nothing. 461 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,850 And I was thinking, "Could I climb out of here?" 462 00:54:36,335 --> 00:54:40,506 25 meter of overhanging ice. No way, I couldn't do it with a good leg. 463 00:54:44,335 --> 00:54:48,506 I knew that they were both dead. But I couldn't just clear off and leave the camp. 464 00:54:50,977 --> 00:54:54,128 For one thing, I didn't know anything about them, 465 00:54:54,129 --> 00:54:56,982 except for their first names, Joe and Simon. 466 00:54:56,983 --> 00:55:01,093 I didn't know their family names, I really knew nothing about them. 467 00:55:01,095 --> 00:55:05,036 And I had this bizarre idea, that if they'd fallen off the mountain, 468 00:55:05,037 --> 00:55:08,452 they would have just landed at the bottom of it. 469 00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:12,624 And I thought, perhaps from the bottom of the glacier, I'd be able to see them. 470 00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:18,401 And set off with the aim of going as far as I could. 471 00:55:21,208 --> 00:55:24,419 I started to go down the glacier on my own. 472 00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:28,591 In this stage I was still certain that I was gonna die myself. 473 00:55:29,751 --> 00:55:33,357 Crossing a glacier is very very dangerous on your own, 474 00:55:33,358 --> 00:55:37,528 because there are crevices in the ice, and the snow covers them. 475 00:55:39,022 --> 00:55:42,509 Fortunately I managed to find a faint outline of our tracks, 476 00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:45,665 from when we walked in. 477 00:55:45,666 --> 00:55:49,837 It was only when I got off the glacier, I realized that I was going to get down, 478 00:55:51,982 --> 00:55:54,343 I was going to get out of it, 479 00:55:54,344 --> 00:55:58,515 I was gonna live. 480 00:56:08,975 --> 00:56:13,146 I can't really describe how scary the night had been. 481 00:56:18,445 --> 00:56:22,615 I thought, it would be like that, for days. 482 00:56:25,166 --> 00:56:28,507 You gotta make decisions, you gotta keep making decisions, 483 00:56:28,508 --> 00:56:32,679 even if they're wrong decisions. 484 00:56:33,638 --> 00:56:37,808 If you don't make decisions you're stuffed. 485 00:56:54,479 --> 00:56:58,650 Short of dying on the ledge, my only chance was to 486 00:56:59,713 --> 00:57:03,884 lower myself deeper into the crevice. 487 00:57:03,907 --> 00:57:07,215 I didn't what I would find down there. 488 00:57:07,216 --> 00:57:11,386 I was just hoping there might be some way out of the labyrinth of ice and snow. 489 00:57:16,923 --> 00:57:21,094 And I really struggled to make that decision, I was so scared of going deeper. 490 00:57:32,372 --> 00:57:35,463 The other option was to just to sit there, 491 00:57:35,464 --> 00:57:37,760 blindly hoping that somehow it might get better, 492 00:57:37,761 --> 00:57:41,931 and I just knew it wasn't going to get better. 493 00:58:08,658 --> 00:58:11,930 I didn't want to look down, 494 00:58:11,931 --> 00:58:16,102 I was horrified at the thought that it was just empty down there. 495 00:58:34,023 --> 00:58:37,056 I didn't put a knot near the end of the rope, 496 00:58:37,057 --> 00:58:40,953 and if there was nothing down there I wouldn't be able to hold the rope, 497 00:58:40,954 --> 00:58:45,125 and then I would fall, and it would be quick. 498 00:59:06,212 --> 00:59:10,382 And I thought "Jesus, this is big!" 499 00:59:20,433 --> 00:59:24,604 By this stage I was completely physically done in, 500 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:29,671 staggering back down these meringues, still desperately thirsty. 501 00:59:30,964 --> 00:59:33,492 There werre all these sort of thoughts swirling around in my mind, 502 00:59:33,493 --> 00:59:37,664 guilt, worry, thinking about how on earth am I going to explain this to Joe's parents, 503 00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:43,889 my friends, to Richard. 504 00:59:44,969 --> 00:59:49,132 The thought did cross my mind that maybe I could think up a decent story, 505 00:59:49,133 --> 00:59:53,304 that would make me look better. 506 00:59:53,596 --> 00:59:57,766 And I did quite think about that, for quite a while. 507 01:00:04,235 --> 01:00:08,406 Really the only image that sticks in my mind from all the time in Peru, 508 01:00:09,304 --> 01:00:12,940 is seeing this figure. 509 01:00:12,942 --> 01:00:17,112 And it was fairly close before I could see who it was. 510 01:00:20,717 --> 01:00:24,309 But he looked absolutely horrendous. 511 01:00:24,310 --> 01:00:28,480 You wouldn't recognize him. 512 01:00:30,489 --> 01:00:34,257 And I said, "Where is Joe?" 513 01:00:34,258 --> 01:00:36,976 And he just said, "Joe is dead". 514 01:00:36,978 --> 01:00:41,147 I told him the whole story, as we walked back to the camp, 515 01:00:41,274 --> 01:00:45,445 I told him the whole story of what had happened. 516 01:00:45,586 --> 01:00:49,757 He wasn't in the slightest bit judgemental about me or what I'd done, 517 01:00:54,149 --> 01:00:58,319 he took it very well. 518 01:01:12,778 --> 01:01:16,949 I must have lowered myself about 25m from where the ice screw was at the bridge. 519 01:01:25,290 --> 01:01:28,956 I was now in what seemed to be the base of the crevice, 520 01:01:28,957 --> 01:01:32,277 that was shaped like a big hourglass. 521 01:01:32,278 --> 01:01:35,305 To the ceiling, was probably about 50m. 522 01:01:35,306 --> 01:01:39,477 I think it's as big as the St. Paul's dome in scale. 523 01:01:41,922 --> 01:01:46,093 I remember looking down, and there was just solid snow. 524 01:01:46,363 --> 01:01:50,534 And I thought, "this is the bottom of the crevice!" 525 01:01:55,802 --> 01:01:59,972 About 15m away from me, there was a slope leading up. 526 01:02:01,279 --> 01:02:05,450 Right at the top, there was the sun coming through this hole. 527 01:02:06,929 --> 01:02:11,100 And it was shining, just this big beam of sunlight coming in. 528 01:02:14,631 --> 01:02:18,801 This was the way out I'd been looking for! 529 01:02:20,483 --> 01:02:24,654 I remember thinking, "Whoo, I can climb that slope, I bloody well will climb that slope!" 530 01:02:27,406 --> 01:02:31,576 I crawled across this flat floor, and I started crawling across on my stomach. 531 01:02:43,406 --> 01:02:47,577 Then I heard things breaking away underneath me. 532 01:02:48,783 --> 01:02:52,954 I realized that this wasn't a solid floor, it seemed to be hollow underneath it. 533 01:02:56,886 --> 01:03:01,056 I was absolutely horrified. 534 01:03:02,805 --> 01:03:06,976 It was suddenly, as if I was on an egg shell. 535 01:03:08,615 --> 01:03:12,786 If I break through, I'll never be able to get across to this slope, 536 01:03:13,028 --> 01:03:17,198 and that was my way out. 537 01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:37,250 Alright, I'm on it, this is solid now. 538 01:03:42,708 --> 01:03:46,878 I started to get my axe in and hop up. 539 01:03:50,821 --> 01:03:54,991 That is extremely painful, as your legs hopped up, they both came down together. 540 01:03:58,646 --> 01:04:02,816 I was trying to get into a better position, so that my left foot ain't first. 541 01:04:03,981 --> 01:04:08,152 But I inevitably went onto my broken leg. 542 01:04:09,081 --> 01:04:12,250 I feel the displacement go, the bone move, 543 01:04:12,251 --> 01:04:16,254 so every hop I nearly faint. 544 01:04:16,255 --> 01:04:20,426 It was just excruciatingly painful. 545 01:05:14,511 --> 01:05:18,294 And it was a bright sunny day. 546 01:05:18,295 --> 01:05:22,466 Wow, the whole world has come back. 547 01:05:24,958 --> 01:05:29,129 I was Iying on the snow, just laughing. 548 01:05:37,686 --> 01:05:41,857 That was the relief of getting out that place. 549 01:06:16,507 --> 01:06:19,635 And I then looked at the glacier and I thought, 550 01:06:19,636 --> 01:06:21,743 "Well, you haven't even started, mate". 551 01:06:21,744 --> 01:06:25,915 It's kilometers and kilometers and on really bad ground. 552 01:06:45,191 --> 01:06:49,361 But I think I was contemplating just sitting there, because I was coming at this, 553 01:06:50,065 --> 01:06:54,236 having done the most serious climb in my life. 554 01:06:54,282 --> 01:06:58,029 You come down safe from a climb like that, you'd be exhausted for days. 555 01:06:58,030 --> 01:07:01,666 You'd just eat and drink and sleep. 556 01:07:01,667 --> 01:07:05,837 I'd just come out of that, I'd badly broken a leg, I was in great pain, 557 01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:11,821 highly dehydrated, I had no food, and I was looking at trying to do that. 558 01:07:12,214 --> 01:07:16,385 Just no way, just no way you're physically gonna do that. 559 01:07:17,218 --> 01:07:21,389 And then it occurred to me that I should set definite targets. 560 01:07:24,179 --> 01:07:26,998 I started to look at things and think, 561 01:07:26,999 --> 01:07:30,520 "right, if I can get to that crevice over there in 20 minutes", 562 01:07:30,521 --> 01:07:33,973 "that's what I'm gonna do". 563 01:07:33,974 --> 01:07:38,145 If I got there in 18 minutes I was hysterically happy about it, 564 01:07:38,446 --> 01:07:42,617 and if I'd gotten 22 or 24 minutes, I was upset almost to the point of tears, 565 01:07:42,995 --> 01:07:47,166 and it became obsessive. 566 01:07:48,663 --> 01:07:52,834 I don't know why I did it, I think I knew the big picture of what had happened to me, 567 01:07:53,657 --> 01:07:57,828 and what I had to do was so big I couldn't deal with it. 568 01:08:41,778 --> 01:08:45,320 I stayed on Simon's tracks, and they were weaving around over humps, 569 01:08:45,321 --> 01:08:47,718 and past obvious crevices and stuff. 570 01:08:47,719 --> 01:08:51,428 I thought, "Well, unless I come to a hole with his body in the bottom of it," 571 01:08:51,429 --> 01:08:55,600 "these tracks will lead me through the minefield of crevices". 572 01:09:05,029 --> 01:09:09,200 All these huge mountains around you, big mountain walls. 573 01:09:10,685 --> 01:09:13,776 And they do make you feel small and vulnerable. 574 01:09:13,777 --> 01:09:17,948 And you wonder whether there's some malign presence out to get you. 575 01:09:31,764 --> 01:09:34,737 It was like somebody was just teasing an ant, 576 01:09:34,738 --> 01:09:36,448 and putting something in its way all the time, 577 01:09:36,449 --> 01:09:40,620 and eventually gonna stand on it. 578 01:10:41,421 --> 01:10:45,126 I could see Simon's tracks were filling in. 579 01:10:45,127 --> 01:10:49,298 They were my lifeline off the glacier. 580 01:10:49,811 --> 01:10:53,981 And I started to get very desperate. 581 01:11:08,775 --> 01:11:12,593 I carried on crawling in the dark, a stupid thing to do on the slope of the glacier. 582 01:11:12,594 --> 01:11:16,765 But I was frightened and I was just trying to see Simon's tracks. 583 01:11:40,095 --> 01:11:44,266 In the morning, it was a bright, sunny day, all the tracks had gone. 584 01:11:54,217 --> 01:11:56,650 I started quite early, 585 01:11:56,651 --> 01:12:00,822 and every now and then I had to stand up on one leg to try see the way, 586 01:12:00,826 --> 01:12:04,997 and then sit down again, and shuffle on. 587 01:12:34,448 --> 01:12:38,418 There was one very horrendous crevice bit right near the edge, 588 01:12:38,419 --> 01:12:42,590 and I got into a maze of them. 589 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:12,410 I suddenly came to a point where I could see ice running down, then I could see rocks. 590 01:13:24,849 --> 01:13:29,020 It was probably me, who brought up the subject of leaving. 591 01:13:29,710 --> 01:13:31,792 Partly 'cause I was worried about Simon. 592 01:13:31,793 --> 01:13:35,964 I just felt it was best to get as far away as possible from where it had happened. 593 01:13:39,864 --> 01:13:42,519 I didn't want to leave immediately, 594 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,691 I felt I needed a day or two just to collect my thoughts, 595 01:13:48,271 --> 01:13:52,442 and to regain some strength. 596 01:13:57,621 --> 01:14:01,792 Spend a long time washing myself. 597 01:14:06,145 --> 01:14:10,315 That felt good, to wash my hair and to wash my face, to have a shave, to... 598 01:14:13,696 --> 01:14:17,105 get the... 599 01:14:17,106 --> 01:14:21,277 get the remnants, the mountain out of my system. 600 01:14:54,260 --> 01:14:57,783 I was desperately thirsty, because it doesn't matter how much snow you eat, 601 01:14:57,784 --> 01:15:01,955 you just can't get enough water into your system. 602 01:15:02,198 --> 01:15:06,368 And I saw the rocks, I knew how big these boulders would be and how far it was, 603 01:15:06,533 --> 01:15:09,660 and that was the first time that I really thought about, 604 01:15:09,661 --> 01:15:13,832 whether I could get the distance. 605 01:15:18,290 --> 01:15:22,461 I got rid of all my gear. 606 01:15:36,102 --> 01:15:40,003 I knew that I couldn't crawl over these rocks, they were just too big and jumbled, 607 01:15:40,004 --> 01:15:44,175 and that the only way to do it was to try and hop. 608 01:15:45,235 --> 01:15:49,406 I knew I was gonna fall a lot. 609 01:16:45,383 --> 01:16:47,453 I'd fallen virtually every hop, 610 01:16:47,454 --> 01:16:50,970 and it's just like having your leg broken about every time, and I remember 611 01:16:50,971 --> 01:16:55,010 looking back where I'd come from, it was just over 20m, 612 01:16:55,011 --> 01:16:59,181 and it had taken me ages. And the pain, just of the 20+m... 613 01:17:12,012 --> 01:17:15,179 I can be insanely stubborn. 614 01:17:15,180 --> 01:17:19,295 And I do like to have things my way. 615 01:17:19,296 --> 01:17:23,467 And things were seriously not going my way over these days. 616 01:17:29,942 --> 01:17:34,113 I'd look at a rock and then I'd go, "Right, I get there in 20 minutes". 617 01:17:35,285 --> 01:17:39,395 Once I decided I was going to get that distance in 20 minutes, 618 01:17:39,396 --> 01:17:43,566 I bloody well was gonna do it. 619 01:17:44,829 --> 01:17:47,958 And it would help me, because I'd get halfway through the distance, 620 01:17:47,959 --> 01:17:49,269 and I'd be in such pain, 621 01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:52,910 I just couldn't bear the thought of getting up and falling on again, 622 01:17:52,911 --> 01:17:57,081 but I'd look at the target and think "I've got to get there". 623 01:18:07,576 --> 01:18:10,140 And I'd think, when I was Iying a bit long, and I think, 624 01:18:10,141 --> 01:18:14,311 "no, you gotta get there. You only got 10 minutes left, only 10 minutes left!" 625 01:18:16,675 --> 01:18:20,845 It seemed like there was a very cold, pragmatic part of me that was saying, 626 01:18:21,678 --> 01:18:25,848 "You have to do this, this and this, if you're gonna get there". 627 01:18:41,656 --> 01:18:45,826 "Come on, keep moving, keep moving" 628 01:18:52,072 --> 01:18:56,243 "Right, get up, and do it again" 629 01:19:00,977 --> 01:19:05,148 It was quite insistent, and quite clear. 630 01:19:06,046 --> 01:19:10,217 It was almost like a voice or a separate part of me, telling me to do something. 631 01:19:14,617 --> 01:19:18,175 Very uncaring. No sympathy, 632 01:19:18,176 --> 01:19:22,347 no acknowledgement of the fact that I might be tired or hurt. 633 01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:27,651 It was very, very odd. 634 01:19:36,259 --> 01:19:40,430 That part of me kept saying, "Keep moving, stop resting, keep moving", 635 01:19:41,512 --> 01:19:45,682 and the other part of me, my mind, anyway, just was, "Alright.", 636 01:19:46,233 --> 01:19:48,851 looking around and absorbing things. 637 01:19:48,852 --> 01:19:51,980 And as the hours went, and certainly as the days started to go, 638 01:19:51,981 --> 01:19:56,152 it became weirder and weirder. 639 01:20:43,010 --> 01:20:47,179 So I was very, very, very thirsty. Very dehydrated. 640 01:20:50,581 --> 01:20:54,288 And the agonizing thing is, all these boulders, these meringues, 641 01:20:54,289 --> 01:20:58,460 are on top of the glacier. And you could hear water running. 642 01:20:58,858 --> 01:21:03,028 All the time. 643 01:21:08,773 --> 01:21:12,944 I'd fall over a lot and I'd hear water and I'd start digging around searching for it. 644 01:21:37,029 --> 01:21:39,189 Couldn't find it, couldn't get it. 645 01:21:39,190 --> 01:21:43,361 And it was driving me mad, to be able to hear water. 646 01:22:08,262 --> 01:22:10,465 I was worried about Simon. 647 01:22:10,466 --> 01:22:14,637 About his health, 'cause his fingertips were still quite bad from frostbite. 648 01:22:16,482 --> 01:22:20,653 And I just felt it wasn't a place to be lingering in. 649 01:22:21,519 --> 01:22:25,690 We just started getting ready to leave in the morning. 650 01:22:32,371 --> 01:22:36,542 I did eventually collapse amidst the rocks, and I didn't sleep very well. 651 01:22:36,698 --> 01:22:40,864 My leg was very painful. It was agony. 652 01:22:40,865 --> 01:22:43,765 It was the first night, I think, it hadn't stormed. 653 01:22:43,766 --> 01:22:47,936 It didn't snow on me, and it didn't rain. And I could see the stars. 654 01:22:48,221 --> 01:22:52,392 I can remember Iying on my back for what seemed endless periods of time, 655 01:22:52,927 --> 01:22:57,098 staring at the stars. 656 01:22:57,425 --> 01:23:01,305 At one point I had this weird sensation that I had been lain there, conscious, 657 01:23:01,306 --> 01:23:04,066 for centuries, for lifetimes. 658 01:23:04,067 --> 01:23:08,238 Becoming part of the rocks, and part of where I was never gonna move from. 659 01:23:31,057 --> 01:23:33,932 The sun came up, and it started to warm me. 660 01:23:33,933 --> 01:23:38,104 And I thought it'd be just so nice to just lie there, don't move, and never hurt, 661 01:23:38,861 --> 01:23:43,032 and christ, I got so, so close to doing that. 662 01:23:50,884 --> 01:23:54,012 I genuinely believed that I wouldn't make the distance, 663 01:23:54,013 --> 01:23:56,099 and I also believed that I was going to die, 664 01:23:56,100 --> 01:24:00,271 and I sort of acknowledged it in a very matter-of-fact way. 665 01:24:03,473 --> 01:24:05,574 And it seemed very rational to keep on crawling, 666 01:24:05,575 --> 01:24:09,746 if you didn't think it was gonna be of any good. 667 01:24:11,555 --> 01:24:15,726 I think that it was that loneliness, that sense of being abandoned. 668 01:24:16,419 --> 01:24:20,589 It was there all the time. 669 01:24:22,386 --> 01:24:25,808 I didn't crawl, because I thought I would survive, 670 01:24:25,809 --> 01:24:29,980 I think I wanted to be with somebody when I died. 671 01:24:58,713 --> 01:25:02,884 Probably just a symbolic act to say goodbye to him, in my own mind, 672 01:25:05,796 --> 01:25:09,967 by doing that. 673 01:26:13,806 --> 01:26:17,977 I drank liters and liters of it. 674 01:26:20,654 --> 01:26:23,338 And it was just like putting fuel in, 675 01:26:23,339 --> 01:26:27,510 I could feel myself immediately just getting stronger. 676 01:27:34,668 --> 01:27:36,119 I kept wetting myself. 677 01:27:36,121 --> 01:27:40,291 And I can remember actually quite liking the sensation, the warmth of it. 678 01:27:46,575 --> 01:27:50,746 It was just a slow, steady reduction. 679 01:27:52,031 --> 01:27:55,159 Not just physically. Physically is very obvious, 680 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,181 but you, everything, yourself. 681 01:27:58,182 --> 01:28:01,551 I felt left with nothing. 682 01:28:01,552 --> 01:28:05,723 And I didn't care anymore. 683 01:28:05,788 --> 01:28:09,958 Didn't have any dignity, you didn't care whether you're brave or weak or anything. 684 01:28:11,392 --> 01:28:15,563 You just became almost nothing. It was strange. 685 01:28:25,181 --> 01:28:29,352 I was still doing these test 20 minutes things, get here, get there. 686 01:28:31,387 --> 01:28:35,558 And then I saw these footprints. 687 01:28:36,523 --> 01:28:40,456 Then I got convinced, that it was Simon and Richard. 688 01:28:40,457 --> 01:28:43,585 They were up above me, and they were just following on, 689 01:28:43,586 --> 01:28:47,199 and I carried on crawling down, 690 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:51,371 utterly convinced that they were wandering along behind me. 691 01:28:53,210 --> 01:28:57,381 And I can remember thinking, "that is really stupid, they would come and help you", 692 01:28:58,595 --> 01:29:01,402 and I think I persuaded myself that they were just following on, 693 01:29:01,404 --> 01:29:05,574 because they didn't want to embarass me 'cause I peed myself and I was crying. 694 01:29:08,211 --> 01:29:12,381 I don't know how long it lasted, maybe about an hour. 695 01:29:13,925 --> 01:29:18,096 I totally believed it, and then suddenly it was like popping a bubble. 696 01:29:21,589 --> 01:29:25,759 And then I realized that they weren't there, and I felt utterly shattered. 697 01:29:39,802 --> 01:29:43,973 It was about 4 o'clock when I reached the lake. 698 01:29:45,719 --> 01:29:49,816 And I that at the far end of it, there was a meringue dam. 699 01:29:49,817 --> 01:29:51,291 And from the top of that meringue dam, 700 01:29:51,292 --> 01:29:55,462 I would be able to look down into the valley where the base camp was. 701 01:29:55,850 --> 01:29:59,696 In fact, I would be able to see the tents. 702 01:29:59,698 --> 01:30:01,248 This was the first time I thought it, 703 01:30:01,249 --> 01:30:05,420 I thought, "I'm gonna make the distance, I can actually make the distance". 704 01:30:08,668 --> 01:30:12,839 Almost as soon I thought it, the next thought that popped into my head was, 705 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:17,114 "Will there be anyone there?" 706 01:30:17,115 --> 01:30:21,286 I thought, "Christ, this is the fourth day since I saw Simon", 707 01:30:23,882 --> 01:30:28,053 and as I worked it out, I thought, "Why on earth would they be there?" 708 01:30:31,262 --> 01:30:35,087 I knew it got dark at six, and thought "I got to get there, I got to get there", 709 01:30:35,088 --> 01:30:39,258 and I was trying to do it as fast as possible. 710 01:30:44,405 --> 01:30:46,071 The rest of that afternoon, 711 01:30:46,072 --> 01:30:50,243 I was plagued by this dreadful feeling that they would have gone. 712 01:30:54,562 --> 01:30:58,733 I hadn't paid attention to what was happening with the weather. 713 01:30:59,164 --> 01:31:02,550 Between leaving at four and getting to the top of the meringues, about six, 714 01:31:02,551 --> 01:31:05,483 the weather had changed. 715 01:31:05,485 --> 01:31:09,654 So when I looked down at the valley, it was just full of clouds. 716 01:31:14,547 --> 01:31:18,718 I listened intently, hoping to hear a whistle or an answer, a cry back, something, 717 01:31:19,963 --> 01:31:24,133 and I didn't hear anything at all. 718 01:31:30,515 --> 01:31:34,686 and I spend a long time, sat there, crying, not sure what to do. 719 01:31:36,511 --> 01:31:40,274 I thought about getting in my sleeping bag. 720 01:31:40,275 --> 01:31:43,558 For some reason it just seemed a bit of a pathetic way to end things, 721 01:31:43,559 --> 01:31:47,730 just in a sleeping bag. 722 01:31:47,996 --> 01:31:52,167 I thought, "Well, nice but just keep going, you'll end it down there, somewhere". 723 01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,610 I don't know entirely what happened for the rest of that night. 724 01:32:11,385 --> 01:32:15,556 I stopped looking at the watch, and everything just started to go apart. 725 01:32:36,218 --> 01:32:39,300 And I think I just got lost. 726 01:32:39,301 --> 01:32:43,471 And I didn't know what I was doing anymore. 727 01:32:45,198 --> 01:32:49,369 I don't remember thinking of anyone, 728 01:32:49,891 --> 01:32:54,062 anybody I loved or any of that. 729 01:32:56,979 --> 01:33:00,756 I did have one time, when I got a song going through my head. 730 01:33:00,757 --> 01:33:04,133 And it was by a band called Boney M. 731 01:33:04,134 --> 01:33:08,305 And I don't really like Boney M's music. 732 01:33:36,153 --> 01:33:40,026 Brown girl in the ring, 733 01:33:40,027 --> 01:33:44,197 there's a brown girl in the ring, 734 01:33:45,545 --> 01:33:49,481 brown girl in the ring, 735 01:33:49,482 --> 01:33:53,082 she looks like a sugar in a plum, 736 01:33:53,083 --> 01:33:54,927 plum, plum! 737 01:33:54,928 --> 01:33:59,097 Show me your motion, 738 01:34:00,422 --> 01:34:04,593 come on show me your motion, 739 01:34:05,236 --> 01:34:07,832 show me your motion, 740 01:34:07,833 --> 01:34:12,003 And it just went on and on and on, for hours. 741 01:34:13,794 --> 01:34:17,719 I found it very upsetting, 'cause I wanted to try and get it out of my head. 742 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,891 And I wanted to think of other things. 743 01:34:28,104 --> 01:34:32,275 I was thinking, "Bloody hell, I'm gonna die to Boney M". 744 01:34:48,083 --> 01:34:51,058 I remember sometimes not waking up, 745 01:34:51,059 --> 01:34:55,230 I think I was awake all the time, but coming to, it was like waking up, 746 01:34:55,380 --> 01:34:58,743 and sort of find myself sitting there, 747 01:34:58,744 --> 01:35:02,307 I didn't know where I was. 748 01:35:02,308 --> 01:35:05,605 It was pitch black and snowing, and I'd think I was back on the glacier, 749 01:35:05,606 --> 01:35:09,192 or I'd think I was in a public car park, and had been beaten up again, 750 01:35:09,193 --> 01:35:13,363 and then I'd just drift off again. 751 01:35:24,857 --> 01:35:28,971 I remember smelling something. 752 01:35:28,972 --> 01:35:32,304 It was a really strong smell. 753 01:35:32,305 --> 01:35:36,476 And it acted like a smelling salt, to cut through all this delerium. 754 01:35:40,013 --> 01:35:43,140 And I remember being really confused, I couldn't understand what it meant. 755 01:35:43,141 --> 01:35:46,389 It took me ages to to try and work out what it meant. 756 01:35:46,391 --> 01:35:49,879 I thought it was me. 757 01:35:49,881 --> 01:35:52,212 And very slowly, I worked it out, and I thought, 758 01:35:52,213 --> 01:35:56,384 "I've crawled through the latrine area of our camp site". 759 01:35:58,894 --> 01:36:03,065 And I realized then, that I was close to the tents. 760 01:36:13,125 --> 01:36:17,295 As I was shouting it, I thought, "This is it, this is as far as this game goes". 761 01:36:22,618 --> 01:36:26,789 I'm not capable of going any further. 762 01:36:31,643 --> 01:36:35,814 I made the mistake of having a little bit of hope, that they'd still be there. 763 01:36:37,530 --> 01:36:41,129 And when I shouted, and they weren't there, 764 01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:45,300 I sort of knew I was dead then. 765 01:36:58,197 --> 01:37:02,367 That moment, when no one answered the call, 766 01:37:13,099 --> 01:37:17,269 it was... I lost something. 767 01:37:20,324 --> 01:37:24,495 I lost me. 768 01:37:26,961 --> 01:37:30,410 I woke up, not knowing why. 769 01:37:30,411 --> 01:37:33,875 And was aware of this kind of strange atmosphere, 770 01:37:33,876 --> 01:37:37,326 I could hear the wind howling outside the tent. 771 01:37:37,327 --> 01:37:41,498 And started hearing something. 772 01:37:44,472 --> 01:37:46,644 It did slowly dawn on me, 773 01:37:46,645 --> 01:37:49,465 that really the only thing it could be, 774 01:37:49,466 --> 01:37:53,237 would be Joe outside shouting. 775 01:37:53,238 --> 01:37:57,409 But that was completely impossible, because he was dead, 776 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:02,050 and he died 3 or 4 days ago. 777 01:38:02,424 --> 01:38:06,595 And then head it again, much sharper, 778 01:38:07,038 --> 01:38:11,209 and it really sounded like somebody shouting. Simon. 779 01:38:15,886 --> 01:38:19,375 I can have gotten into a panic, but first, it couldn't be Joe, 780 01:38:19,376 --> 01:38:22,417 because Joe's dead. 781 01:38:22,418 --> 01:38:26,589 And then, if he is out there, it's gonna be this horrible thing, 782 01:38:28,734 --> 01:38:31,321 it can't be a human being, because, 783 01:38:31,322 --> 01:38:35,493 no human being can possibly go through that, and be outside the tent. 784 01:38:41,498 --> 01:38:45,669 I was just kind of Iying there, really not knowing what to do. 785 01:38:46,311 --> 01:38:48,929 And then Simon woke up. 786 01:38:48,930 --> 01:38:53,101 "Simon!", it was quite clearly a shout of my name. 787 01:38:54,069 --> 01:38:58,240 I knew it was Joe actually, I knew immediately. 788 01:38:59,302 --> 01:39:03,472 I was looking around, and then I saw this thing, floating. 789 01:39:07,904 --> 01:39:12,075 Of course Simon exploded into action. 790 01:39:14,435 --> 01:39:18,605 Suddenly I heard voices. 791 01:39:19,337 --> 01:39:20,902 Is that you? 792 01:39:20,903 --> 01:39:25,073 I was holding back, because I didn't feel that was a human being out there. 793 01:39:41,771 --> 01:39:45,939 And we went back up the stream, right from where these cries had come from, 794 01:39:45,940 --> 01:39:50,109 about maybe 60-80 m outside the camp, and there was Joe. 795 01:39:57,042 --> 01:40:01,212 I couldn't completely believe it, until I actually saw him, 796 01:40:01,648 --> 01:40:04,776 but then it was still a little difficult to believe that, 797 01:40:04,777 --> 01:40:08,947 because of the eerie night and the state he was in. 798 01:40:09,441 --> 01:40:11,695 Absolutely awful state. 799 01:40:11,696 --> 01:40:15,413 It was almost like he was a sort of ghost-like figure. 800 01:40:15,415 --> 01:40:19,584 It was like I had to sort of pinch myself almost to believe this was true, 801 01:40:21,986 --> 01:40:25,114 that this was really happening. 802 01:40:25,115 --> 01:40:29,286 Help me! - Oh fuck, Joe! 803 01:40:30,888 --> 01:40:33,838 Simon, 804 01:40:33,839 --> 01:40:38,010 he was swearing a lot. Swearing a lot. 805 01:40:39,537 --> 01:40:41,506 Richard, lift him! 806 01:40:41,507 --> 01:40:45,678 Richard, hold him, you stupid bastard! Lift him! 807 01:40:46,284 --> 01:40:50,453 I remember Simon grabbing my shoulders, 808 01:40:51,171 --> 01:40:55,080 and holding me. 809 01:40:55,081 --> 01:40:57,961 I remember that. 810 01:40:57,962 --> 01:41:02,133 That feeling of being held. 811 01:41:25,026 --> 01:41:29,197 He thanked me for trying to get him down the mountain, 812 01:41:32,072 --> 01:41:36,242 for all that I'd done up to the point, 813 01:41:36,759 --> 01:41:40,200 where I cut the rope, 814 01:41:40,201 --> 01:41:44,372 and he said to me, "I'd have done the same". 815 01:41:47,143 --> 01:41:51,313 Those were the first words he uttered to me. 816 01:42:02,196 --> 01:42:06,058 And I remember, before we'd done anything to him, before we'd even close the door, 817 01:42:06,059 --> 01:42:08,586 he said, "Where are my trousers?" 818 01:42:08,588 --> 01:42:12,758 We had to explain, that we burned his trousers, which made him quite angry. 819 01:42:14,846 --> 01:42:19,017 And I think that kind of brought me back into life, to some extend. 820 01:42:19,055 --> 01:42:23,225 realizing it was the same old Joe, back again.