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[narrator]
For homicide detectives,
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their chance
of solving a murder
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is cut in half
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if they don't get a lead
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within the first 48 hours.
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[clock ticking]
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[Angela] Here.
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[officer] Howdy.
[Angela] How are you guys?
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[officer]
The victim's Ana Karen.
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[narrator] 24-year-old
Ana Karen Ramos Hernandez
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was born in Cuernavaca,
Mexico,
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and moved to the United States
when she was ten.
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Since graduating high school,
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Karen worked
as a house painter
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and was learning how
to do home renovation.
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She enjoyed
spending her free time
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with her four nieces,
two cats, and two dogs.
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[narrator] Karen was
stabbed over 40 times.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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[Angela] All right.
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[Rodrigo] Mm-hmm?
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[sniffles]
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[narrator] Karen's sister says
that until recently,
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Karen had lived
with her longtime boyfriend,
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Sebastian Omaña Torres.
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[narrator] She says she called
Sebastian's father
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after discovering
Karen's body.
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Sebastian's father told her
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his son moved in with him
four days ago.
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She says Sebastian's father
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is on the way to the scene.
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[narrator] Downstairs from
Karen's apartment...
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[knocking on door]
[Ring camera chimes]
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Detective David Early
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talks to Karen's neighbor.
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[David] Hey, it's Detective
Early, Gwinnett PD.
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Does this thing work?
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Looks like it does.
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Do you mind if
I kind of look back
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and see if we can't
see what happened?
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[officer] Motion clips.
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[David] 12:16 a.m.
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This dude walking real, real,
real slow up that direction.
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[officer]
Like, sneaking up the steps.
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[Angela] Thank you, sir.
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[narrator] Sebastian's father
arrives to talk to detectives.
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[Rodrigo] Mm.
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[Shelly] The white SUV
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hit a Flock camera
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in South Georgia near Valdosta
at 6:00 p.m. this evening.
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Karen's Explorer was spotted
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leaving the state
heading south.
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[Angela] Check flights from
Miami to Colombia today.
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See if there's any.
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- I believe that
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for an arrest warrant
for the suspect.
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[Rodrigo] Headed back
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to work on that
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- That's him.
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[narrator] 26-year-old
Kurt Sebastian Omaña Torres
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has no prior convictions.
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[Rodrigo] Sebastian's
originally from Colombia.
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That could be
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where he would want to flee.
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Miami to fly over to Colombia,
it would be really easy.
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A lot of international flights
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come out of Miami
to South America.
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He left the state.
He has a day ahead of us.
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We're having the U.S. Marshals
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to go ahead and try
to track him down.
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[narrator] Two days later.
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[radios beeping]
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[officer]
Gwinnett Police. Hello.
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Vehicle's empty.
He's gonna be inside.
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Hey, who came in
in that white Explorer?
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Is he in the bathroom?
[clerk] [indistinct]
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[officer] You in the bathroom,
step out.
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It's Gwinnett Police.
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- Yeah.
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[officer] Let me see
your hands. Step out.
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- OK. No problem.
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[officer]
Both hands. Step out.
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[officer]
Both hands, both hands. Hey!
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[officer] Step out.
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- Can you confirm his name?
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[officer] It's a
domestic-related stabbing.
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- Omaña Torres?
- Yeah, it's him.
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- He goes to 35.
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[officer] Karen's white
Ford Explorer had hit on our
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license plate-reading cameras
there around 11:00.
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We got information
from the father.
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Kurt had returned home,
and then he left
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and said that he was going
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[Edy] That video is
definitely this guy.
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[Angela] Mm-hmm.
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[Edy] The video they said,
it does.
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[Angela]
'Cause he's got long hair.
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[Edy] You can see the
little shave on the side.
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[Angela] Mm-hmm. That's him.
[Edy] Mm-hmm.
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[speaking Spanish]
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- Show him going to her house.
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For y'all to say
we can clearly see your face
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and your mask is off.
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Be like, dude,
we knew you were there.
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And then I put pictures
of her in there.
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- Mm-hmm.
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[Edy] I say we start
playing the--
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playing the relationship
first.
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Why they split, how that went,
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kind of getting him
in that mind state.
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- Mm-hmm.
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Detectives show Sebastian
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crime scene photos
of Karen's body.
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- [bleep], man.
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[inhales deeply]
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Oh, my goodness.
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- He doesn't take off the mask
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until he's walking down
the stairs from the apartment,
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so I believe he had his mask on
the entire time.
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[Edy] I think
he's just full of it.
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The kiss?
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I think it's just all to try
to make himself feel better.
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And I think it was probably
a lot of revenge
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and anger in there,
and for all we know,
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I mean, she dumped him
and he wasn't having it.
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[Rodrigo] Unfortunately,
we do see this a lot
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when it comes to domestics
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and the stabbing
being the injuries.
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There's always a lot of rage
and emotion behind it.
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In his mind,
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think that she still loved him
all the way till the end.
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[people speaking Spanish]
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[narrator] Six months after
Karen's death...
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[phone line trilling]
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[siren wailing]
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- OK. What's up? What's up?
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- The car backed up
and hit the tree.
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[Jermaine] The Chevy Malibu?
[Josh] Yeah.
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[Jermaine]
Got any victim information?
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[Josh] The driver,
Camden Dorch Jackson.
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[narrator]
25-year-old Camden Jackson
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worked at a local Winn-Dixie
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and part-time for his
uncle's painting business.
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Camden's first child was due
in seven months.
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[narrator]
Camden was shot eight times.
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- The passenger?
[Jermaine] Devonte Kennedy.
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[narrator]
26-year-old Van Kennedy IV
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was the youngest of three
and loved to spend time
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with his young nieces
and nephews.
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He recently graduated
Fortis College
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for heating
and air conditioning.
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[Josh] The right cheek.
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The left neck.
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Left behind the ear.
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In the left shoulder.
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Van was shot nine times.
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- All we know is that the car
was in--was here?
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- Here.
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- Mentioned someone
in the street.
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[narrator]
Along the road and sidewalk,
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detectives find
25 9-millimeter casings.
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- When he pulled up
and started shooting,
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they tried to ram, go forward,
and then couldn't get out,
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so they backed up.
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- Collected two .40-caliber
guns from within the vehicle.
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[officer] You see the blood
pool from his finger?
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[officer] Mm-hmm.
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[officer] The gun was laying
right there.
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- Shell casings inside the car.
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[narrator] They find
eight .40-caliber casings
272
00:26:55,375 --> 00:26:57,042
in the front.
273
00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:02,541
[narrator]
And two 9-millimeter casings
274
00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:04,583
in the back.
275
00:27:06,125 --> 00:27:07,542
♪ ♪
276
00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:09,082
[officer] A bloody palm print
277
00:27:09,083 --> 00:27:12,292
on the driver's side
rear exterior door.
278
00:27:12,417 --> 00:27:14,332
♪ ♪
279
00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:17,207
- Someone ran up to the car
like this and braced,
280
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:19,582
and may have fired more because
of the casings in there.
281
00:27:19,583 --> 00:27:21,333
♪ ♪
282
00:27:21,458 --> 00:27:23,707
- That's [bleep] crazy, dude.
283
00:27:23,708 --> 00:27:24,875
♪ ♪
284
00:27:25,042 --> 00:27:27,333
Maybe our suspect was shot.
285
00:27:27,458 --> 00:27:29,999
It could be his blood.
286
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,582
Walked up and fired
more shots inside of the car.
287
00:27:33,583 --> 00:27:34,833
♪ ♪
288
00:27:34,958 --> 00:27:37,875
I just want to know from
the shooter why, you know?
289
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:44,875
♪ ♪
290
00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:52,250
[narrator]
Lieutenant Stan Ladnier
291
00:27:52,375 --> 00:27:53,833
interviews the 911 caller
292
00:27:53,958 --> 00:27:56,750
who was working
at the nearby drugstore.
293
00:28:02,708 --> 00:28:04,167
[Stan] Mm-hmm.
294
00:28:08,875 --> 00:28:10,333
[narrator] She says
the man was shooting into
295
00:28:10,458 --> 00:28:13,167
the victim's Chevy Malibu.
296
00:28:26,708 --> 00:28:28,833
[narrator] She says the
shooter then ran back
297
00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:32,249
to his gray SUV
and drove away.
298
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:35,042
[Stan] He got back in the car.
Where did the car go?
299
00:28:37,833 --> 00:28:39,750
[Stan] OK. All right.
I appreciate it.
300
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,542
[Jermaine] So the information
about the gray SUV
301
00:28:43,708 --> 00:28:46,041
was passed on to patrol.
302
00:28:46,042 --> 00:28:49,041
[officer]
Anyone else? Any witnesses?
303
00:28:49,042 --> 00:28:52,333
- The girl that's
in the Joker shirt over there.
304
00:28:52,458 --> 00:28:54,374
[officer] KeeKee.
- OK.
305
00:28:54,375 --> 00:28:56,833
♪ ♪
306
00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:05,375
OK, now tell me what happened.
307
00:29:08,542 --> 00:29:09,833
♪ ♪
308
00:29:19,292 --> 00:29:20,458
[KeeKee] Mm-hmm.
309
00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:23,875
♪ ♪
310
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,708
[KeeKee]
What his hair was like?
311
00:29:27,417 --> 00:29:28,375
[KeeKee] How tall?
312
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,667
[KeeKee]
What's his complexion?
313
00:29:32,792 --> 00:29:34,417
Dark skin, light skin?
314
00:29:37,708 --> 00:29:39,250
[KeeKee] And he was
only one guy got out?
315
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:42,792
[KeeKee] Was he the passenger
or the driver?
316
00:29:44,667 --> 00:29:46,000
[KeeKee] All right.
317
00:29:46,125 --> 00:29:50,958
♪ ♪
318
00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:53,499
- Why was he
so pissed off about it
319
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:55,374
for you to get out your car
320
00:29:55,375 --> 00:29:58,416
and then come over
trying to finish it?
321
00:29:58,417 --> 00:30:05,292
♪ ♪
322
00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:09,375
♪ ♪
323
00:30:12,042 --> 00:30:13,833
[Jermaine] We'll talk to Mom.
324
00:30:13,958 --> 00:30:16,874
[indistinct chatter]
325
00:30:16,875 --> 00:30:18,167
[car door shuts]
326
00:30:18,292 --> 00:30:21,000
How did y'all know
to come here?
327
00:30:22,708 --> 00:30:24,167
[narrator] Camden's mother
says
328
00:30:24,292 --> 00:30:27,375
a friend of Camden called her
with the news.
329
00:30:30,417 --> 00:30:32,000
[Jermaine] Yes, ma'am.
330
00:30:50,542 --> 00:30:52,042
[somber music]
331
00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:53,542
[Jermaine]
Did she say anything about
332
00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:55,082
that she knew
about what happened
333
00:30:55,083 --> 00:30:56,875
or what could have caused it
or anything like that?
334
00:30:59,375 --> 00:31:02,500
[Jermaine] You know if he was
beefing with anybody or--
335
00:31:20,042 --> 00:31:21,666
[Jermaine]
We're working on it,
336
00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:23,000
and you'll be
the first person,
337
00:31:23,125 --> 00:31:25,833
once someone is arrested,
we will call you first.
338
00:31:25,958 --> 00:31:27,957
If you receive information
about someone
339
00:31:27,958 --> 00:31:30,207
saying this is who did it
or anything like that,
340
00:31:30,208 --> 00:31:33,000
of course,
give me a phone call.
341
00:31:33,125 --> 00:31:35,374
All right. Thank y'all.
342
00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:39,542
♪ ♪
343
00:31:39,667 --> 00:31:41,541
[narrator] Then...
344
00:31:41,542 --> 00:31:44,207
[officer] There's a guy
at the hospital.
345
00:31:44,208 --> 00:31:46,082
[narrator] A hospital
near the crime scene
346
00:31:46,083 --> 00:31:47,833
has admitted
a Black male patient
347
00:31:47,958 --> 00:31:50,582
who walked in
with a gunshot wound.
348
00:31:50,583 --> 00:31:51,749
[officer] He had a bald head
349
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:53,208
like everybody out here
is describing.
350
00:31:53,333 --> 00:31:55,000
♪ ♪
351
00:31:57,583 --> 00:31:59,958
♪ ♪
352
00:32:02,417 --> 00:32:05,958
♪ ♪
353
00:32:10,875 --> 00:32:12,375
[tense music]
354
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,542
♪ ♪
355
00:32:19,417 --> 00:32:21,875
[officer]
So he actually is shot.
356
00:32:22,042 --> 00:32:23,957
[narrator] The man has
a laceration wound
357
00:32:23,958 --> 00:32:26,250
across the back of the head.
358
00:32:28,958 --> 00:32:31,916
He was dropped off
in a black Monte Carlo.
359
00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:34,457
♪ ♪
360
00:32:34,458 --> 00:32:37,458
- We gotta figure out where
he dropped his truck off.
361
00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:46,208
♪ ♪
362
00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:50,042
[narrator] As the team
wraps up the scene...
363
00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:56,833
[narrator]
Officers find a gray SUV
364
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,333
matching the description
of the suspect vehicle
365
00:32:59,458 --> 00:33:01,749
a half mile away.
366
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:06,291
- Found it abandoned
at 315 Avenue F.
367
00:33:06,292 --> 00:33:07,874
- That's in Prichard
or something?
368
00:33:07,875 --> 00:33:10,042
[Josh] It's gotta be.
369
00:33:10,167 --> 00:33:12,457
- Patrol should be over there
and they're gonna stand by
370
00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:14,624
until we can all
make it over there.
371
00:33:14,625 --> 00:33:16,832
[Jermaine] All right,
time to head over there then.
372
00:33:16,833 --> 00:33:23,874
♪ ♪
373
00:33:23,875 --> 00:33:25,917
Good abandoned house.
Great job.
374
00:33:26,042 --> 00:33:29,457
[tense music]
375
00:33:29,458 --> 00:33:31,374
[car door closes]
376
00:33:31,375 --> 00:33:33,582
Oh, wow.
377
00:33:33,583 --> 00:33:35,417
KeeKee, check this out.
378
00:33:35,542 --> 00:33:37,249
Caught a jackpot.
379
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,417
♪ ♪
380
00:33:39,542 --> 00:33:43,042
- The guy this comes back to
is at the hospital.
381
00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:46,667
- Blood on the vehicle
on the driver's side.
382
00:33:46,833 --> 00:33:49,541
♪ ♪
383
00:33:49,542 --> 00:33:51,917
[Stan] You can tell
by the laminate on the glass.
384
00:33:52,042 --> 00:33:53,541
It's pointing inward,
so it would've been
385
00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:56,457
the force of the bullet
going into the windshield.
386
00:33:56,458 --> 00:33:57,916
♪ ♪
387
00:33:57,917 --> 00:33:59,416
[Jermaine]
It looks like he was shot
388
00:33:59,417 --> 00:34:01,417
while he was inside
of the car.
389
00:34:01,542 --> 00:34:04,249
♪ ♪
390
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:05,458
[Stan]
That gun's still in the car.
391
00:34:05,583 --> 00:34:07,332
We're gonna have
to get a search warrant.
392
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:08,625
♪ ♪
393
00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:12,624
- This is gonna be our SUV
that he pretty much stashed.
394
00:34:12,625 --> 00:34:15,208
Parked the car here, got out,
walked away,
395
00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:18,624
and probably found someone
to take him.
396
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,499
♪ ♪
397
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,333
At least we have
a possible suspect.
398
00:34:22,458 --> 00:34:25,707
You know, hopefully,
he can give us our why.
399
00:34:25,708 --> 00:34:28,374
That's all we got.
He's at the hospital.
400
00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:34,708
♪ ♪
401
00:34:40,542 --> 00:34:41,916
[narrator]
Sergeant Nick Crepeau
402
00:34:41,917 --> 00:34:44,167
interviews the suspect.
403
00:34:54,417 --> 00:34:56,583
[narrator] The street he names
runs through the intersection
404
00:34:56,708 --> 00:34:58,708
of the crime scene.
405
00:35:55,792 --> 00:36:00,916
♪ ♪
406
00:36:00,917 --> 00:36:04,041
[narrator] Two hours later...
407
00:36:04,042 --> 00:36:07,207
the suspect is brought
to headquarters.
408
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,541
[Jermaine]
I think this our guy.
409
00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:11,791
I think we do have enough for--
for murder.
410
00:36:11,792 --> 00:36:15,332
This guy drove his vehicle
away from the scene,
411
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,582
parked it at another location.
412
00:36:17,583 --> 00:36:19,625
♪ ♪
413
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:21,708
Thing what I want to know is,
what's the history,
414
00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:22,874
you know,
behind these two guys.
415
00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:25,374
♪ ♪
416
00:36:25,375 --> 00:36:27,166
I'm looking at trying
to find something for him,
417
00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:28,833
James David Wilson.
418
00:36:28,958 --> 00:36:32,167
♪ ♪
419
00:36:32,292 --> 00:36:35,875
[narrator] James David Wilson
IV is 38 years old.
420
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,667
♪ ♪
421
00:36:39,792 --> 00:36:43,542
- He was already arrested
for murder before?
422
00:36:43,708 --> 00:36:45,542
Yeah?
423
00:36:45,708 --> 00:36:49,166
Said he pled guilty
for murder.
424
00:36:49,167 --> 00:36:51,041
That's crazy.
425
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:53,583
Back in 2007.
426
00:36:53,708 --> 00:36:57,416
[officer]
2291 St. Stephens Road.
427
00:36:57,417 --> 00:36:59,041
[narrator]
The previous incident occurred
428
00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:03,041
less than a block away from
the shooting this afternoon.
429
00:37:03,042 --> 00:37:06,832
[Jermaine] Double homicide
with James Wilson back in 2007
430
00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:08,375
happened here.
431
00:37:08,542 --> 00:37:12,041
The double homicide
with Camden and Van Kennedy
432
00:37:12,042 --> 00:37:13,541
is here...
433
00:37:13,542 --> 00:37:16,458
directly right
across the street from here.
434
00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:17,583
♪ ♪
435
00:37:17,708 --> 00:37:19,667
It's crazy.
436
00:37:19,792 --> 00:37:21,749
[narrator]
Wilson served five years
437
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:24,792
and was released
ten years ago.
438
00:37:24,917 --> 00:37:26,666
- Hopefully he talk as well.
439
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:28,291
♪ ♪
440
00:37:28,292 --> 00:37:31,041
All right,
let's go talk to him.
441
00:37:31,042 --> 00:37:32,332
[door opens]
442
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,750
[tense music]
443
00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:42,667
[tense music]
444
00:37:42,792 --> 00:37:46,083
♪ ♪
445
00:37:46,208 --> 00:37:47,499
- What's up, man?
446
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:49,041
Let me get this chair
right here real quick.
447
00:37:49,042 --> 00:37:55,625
♪ ♪
448
00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:00,750
♪ ♪
449
00:38:07,042 --> 00:38:10,749
♪ ♪
450
00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:12,207
- All right.
Give me a second, man.
451
00:38:12,208 --> 00:38:13,500
Call your pop.
452
00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:20,208
♪ ♪
453
00:38:20,375 --> 00:38:22,166
[phone line trilling]
454
00:38:22,167 --> 00:38:23,458
Hey, Mr. Wilson.
455
00:38:23,583 --> 00:38:25,167
Hey, we're out here
talking to your son,
456
00:38:25,333 --> 00:38:27,374
and he said
he want to talk to us,
457
00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:29,916
but he want you to be here
with him.
458
00:38:29,917 --> 00:38:32,292
He's here at headquarters
for our investigation.
459
00:38:32,417 --> 00:38:34,916
You want to come down here?
460
00:38:34,917 --> 00:38:36,916
All right.
461
00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:38,000
He's gonna be on his way.
462
00:38:38,125 --> 00:38:43,416
♪ ♪
463
00:38:43,417 --> 00:38:47,499
[officer] Detective Rogers?
- Yes, sir, yes, sir.
464
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,667
[narrator] James's father
arrives with an attorney.
465
00:38:54,125 --> 00:38:57,417
♪ ♪
466
00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:12,000
[officer] All right.
[Jermaine] All right.
467
00:39:12,167 --> 00:39:13,000
[officer] All right.
468
00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:16,708
♪ ♪
469
00:39:16,833 --> 00:39:18,291
[Jermaine] He can tell us
to kick rocks all day long.
470
00:39:18,292 --> 00:39:20,041
He can kick rocks
at the Metro Jail.
471
00:39:20,042 --> 00:39:21,582
♪ ♪
472
00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:23,874
Call the DA's office and
see what they got to say.
473
00:39:23,875 --> 00:39:25,000
♪ ♪
474
00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:27,458
[phone line trilling]
475
00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:29,292
Hey.
476
00:39:29,458 --> 00:39:31,667
[narrator] Rogers lays out
the evidence to the DA.
477
00:39:31,792 --> 00:39:34,707
♪ ♪
478
00:39:34,708 --> 00:39:37,624
- OK.
All right. Appreciate it.
479
00:39:37,625 --> 00:39:39,333
♪ ♪
480
00:39:39,458 --> 00:39:44,082
The ADA approved the charges
of two counts of murder
481
00:39:44,083 --> 00:39:46,791
and two counts of shooting
into an occupied vehicle.
482
00:39:46,792 --> 00:39:48,332
♪ ♪
483
00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:52,332
So that's good.
We can get him to a Metro Jail.
484
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:59,500
♪ ♪
485
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:06,458
[phone line trilling]
486
00:40:06,583 --> 00:40:08,500
[Ms. Jackson] Hello?
- Hey, Ms. Jackson.
487
00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:09,542
[Ms. Jackson] Uh-huh.
488
00:40:09,708 --> 00:40:11,374
- Hey,
this is Detective Rogers.
489
00:40:11,375 --> 00:40:12,458
[Ms. Jackson] Yes, sir.
490
00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:13,707
- Hey, I'm just
calling to tell you
491
00:40:13,708 --> 00:40:15,832
that we made an arrest
on your son's case.
492
00:40:15,833 --> 00:40:17,666
[somber music]
493
00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:20,625
[Ms. Jackson]
Thank you so much.
494
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:25,625
- The person that was
responsible was James Wilson.
495
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:27,333
[Ms. Jackson]
That's the only individual?
496
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:29,541
- Yes, ma'am.
497
00:40:29,542 --> 00:40:32,250
[Ms. Jackson] I really
appreciate that so much.
498
00:40:32,375 --> 00:40:33,583
- You're welcome.
[Ms. Jackson] OK.
499
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:34,667
- All right.
[Ms. Jackson] Bye-bye.
500
00:40:34,875 --> 00:40:36,917
- Bye.
501
00:40:37,042 --> 00:40:38,917
[phone line trilling]
502
00:40:39,042 --> 00:40:40,083
[Mrs. Williams] Hello.
503
00:40:40,208 --> 00:40:42,499
- Hey, Mrs. Williams.
504
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:43,542
[Mrs. Williams] Yes.
505
00:40:43,667 --> 00:40:45,458
- OK. Van's mom?
[Mrs. Williams] Yes.
506
00:40:45,583 --> 00:40:47,041
- OK, I was calling to tell you
507
00:40:47,042 --> 00:40:50,082
that we made an arrest
on your son's case.
508
00:40:50,083 --> 00:40:51,250
[Mrs. Williams] Oh, you did?
- Yes, ma'am.
509
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:53,082
[Mrs. Williams] That's great.
510
00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:55,833
Why--why he say he do it?
511
00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:58,707
- We don't know exactly
why he did it.
512
00:40:58,708 --> 00:41:00,207
[Mrs. Williams] OK.
513
00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:02,375
- All right, all right.
Thank you.
514
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:03,374
[Mrs. Williams]
All right. Thank you.
515
00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,708
- All right.
516
00:41:04,875 --> 00:41:06,624
[somber music]
517
00:41:06,625 --> 00:41:09,750
The toughest part is
to tell them that their--
518
00:41:09,875 --> 00:41:13,541
that their loved one
is deceased, you know?
519
00:41:13,542 --> 00:41:16,374
The better part of--
of this is telling them
520
00:41:16,375 --> 00:41:18,667
that, you know,
we actually made an arrest.
521
00:41:18,833 --> 00:41:21,541
You know, so they don't have
to have those sleepless nights
522
00:41:21,542 --> 00:41:23,333
wondering, you know,
who killed their loved one.
523
00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:25,000
Who killed their child?
524
00:41:25,125 --> 00:41:32,083
♪ ♪
525
00:41:38,458 --> 00:41:40,292
[narrator] Four years later...
526
00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:41,500
♪ ♪
527
00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:45,125
- We learned that Jam Rock
is James Wilson.
528
00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:50,499
He confirmed there was beef
with Camden and James.
529
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,625
We went to trial.
530
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:53,083
The defense attorneys
were attempting
531
00:41:53,208 --> 00:41:54,917
to say that it
was self-defense,
532
00:41:55,042 --> 00:41:58,875
but because James Wilson was
convicted of a double homicide
533
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,541
15 years prior,
he had a duty to retreat.
534
00:42:02,542 --> 00:42:04,000
He didn't do so.
535
00:42:04,125 --> 00:42:06,833
He exited his vehicle
and executed both our victims
536
00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:08,167
that were inside
of their vehicle.
537
00:42:08,292 --> 00:42:09,833
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538
00:42:09,958 --> 00:42:12,207
That area in Toulminville
is pretty much
539
00:42:12,208 --> 00:42:16,833
a busy intersection
for you to have a shootout
540
00:42:16,958 --> 00:42:19,666
during that time,
during daytime.
541
00:42:19,667 --> 00:42:22,249
It shows that you don't care.
542
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:26,917
But James Wilson was found
guilty of capital murder.
543
00:42:27,042 --> 00:42:34,000
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