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♪ ♪
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- We have been screaming,
justice for Rob Cobain.
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Screaming it. I'm screaming it.
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Justice.
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[Corey] He was an artist.
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He worked, supported his kids.
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No criminal history
whatsoever.
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And he's found shot and killed
in his own apartment,
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for no reason that
we have been able to find.
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It's not just
a homicide case anymore.
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I take it personal
that this is sitting
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unsolved on my name.
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- Detective Shaffer, he was
passionate about this case,
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but he got promoted
and put back on the road.
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So I'm gonna pick up
where he left off.
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[Linda]
He was a beacon of light.
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No matter where you saw him,
he was smiling.
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He was always encouraging.
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And his biggest thing
was unity.
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[Arielle] He loved music,
and he loved his kids.
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That was his life.
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- He was a fan of all music.
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Kurt Cobain,
that was one of his idols.
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And he took that moniker,
and thus Rob Cobain was born.
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He was just
a phenomenal artist.
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But as a father and an artist,
his story got cut short.
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[Arielle] He definitely
did not deserve this.
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We're all just so heartbroken.
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[Rob] ♪ I must be
Captain Planet ♪
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♪ I feel the Earth's pain ♪
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♪ My little heart is damaged ♪
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♪ Heartbroken,
heartbroken, whoo ♪
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♪ I'm heartbroken,
heartbroken ♪
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♪ Whoo ♪
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[Narrator]
In North Charleston's
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Forest Hills neighborhood,
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the property manager of an
apartment complex calls 911.
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[line ringing]
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[siren wailing]
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[Officer]
Is that your apartment?
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[Officer] Do we know
whose apartment that is?
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115 to dispatch,
this appears to be a shooting.
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I'm clearing the apartment.
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North Charleston
Police Department.
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Hey, EMS, you guys are clear.
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[indistinct
police radio chatter]
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[Officer] OK.
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115 to dispatch,
this can be a confirmed 10-7.
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[Detective]
232 en route, arrived.
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[Dispatcher] 232.
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[Corey] Detectives on scene.
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[indistinct chatter]
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- What's up, man?
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- What up?
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- This next-door neighbor
at 5:00 a.m. heard two bangs.
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Two loud bangs.
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She thought it was
a car accident or whatever.
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she noticed the glass
was shattered.
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And then at that point,
she called for the maintenance.
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[Narrator]
When the maintenance man
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spotted the victim,
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he contacted
the property manager,
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who called 911.
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[Narrator] 40-year-old
Robert Brown III,
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known by his stage name
Rob Cobain,
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was a local hip-hop artist
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who also worked
at a jewelry store.
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Recently divorced,
he had a 9-year-old son
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with his ex-wife
and a 13-year-old daughter
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from a previous relationship.
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[Officer] The front door was
locked when I got here.
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Deadbolted.
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I made entry through
this hole right here.
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[Detective] Check his body yet?
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[Narrator]
Rob was shot four times,
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in the back, legs, and ankle.
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[Detective]
He's in his underwear.
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[Detective]
What is this, a PS4?
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[Detective] They were maybe
playing a game.
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[Detective] Oh, there you go.
Right there.
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- So one shell casing.
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The team finds a shell casing
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on the living room floor.
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Another one behind the couch.
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[Narrator] And one
in the front hallway.
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[Corey] Whoever it was,
he was very close
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when they started shooting him.
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There's blood all over.
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There clearly was
a scuffle at the door.
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Guess is that him
and someone else were fighting,
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and that's when
the shots started going off.
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and put one through the glass.
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And then from there,
he had collapsed
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right in front of the couch.
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There's a bag of weed.
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[Officer] His phone is
in his back bedroom.
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[Detective]
The original responding officer
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said he noticed that
the front door was bolt-locked.
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[Detective]
The window was open.
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I'm thinking
that's how they went in.
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- Could be.
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Not impossible.
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this was just
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a random burglary gone wrong.
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[Scott] My personal opinion,
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somebody else was
let in the house.
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Maybe possible girlfriend
involved or something
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because he's in
his underwear in there.
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And I don't think he would
have been, like, hanging out
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with one of his buddies
or another dude in there, like,
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half naked or whatever.
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[Corey] Right now,
we have to canvass for video,
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hopefully get lucky,
because right now,
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we don't have a lot
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It's gonna be a tough one.
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[clock ticking]
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Can I ask you a question
real quick?
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Did you hear anything
earlier this morning?
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Any shouting, arguing,
or anything like that?
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OK.
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All right, well,
I appreciate you guys.
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[knocking]
[dog barking]
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Has anybody already
talked to you?
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[Corey] OK.
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[knocking]
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Everybody must be at work.
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[Narrator] Then...
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- OK.
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[Narrator] One of Rob's
neighbors comes forward.
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[Witness] His ex-wife--
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know that they just got
recently divorced.
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He has two kids,
um, Journey,
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and then he has
an autistic son.
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- OK. Did they live there?
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[Witness] Sometimes.
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[Narrator]
Rob's car was broken down,
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so his daughter has been
staying with his ex-wife
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so she could get
a ride to school.
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[Corey] And you don't know him
to have any drama
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or beef with anybody like that?
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[Corey]
What are those two people named
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that would live
with him before?
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[Corey] OK.
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[Corey] When was that
that he kicked them out?
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[Corey] OK.
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Thank you.
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[Narrator] Two hours in...
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- Neighbors next door
made a call to her,
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so she came over here
to give us
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a little bit more information.
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[Corey] OK.
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[Narrator] Another friend
of Rob's arrives on scene.
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[Corey] Hello.
I'm Detective Shaffer.
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[Corey] So what's your
relationship to Robert?
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[Nyisha] We're friends.
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[Corey] OK.
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Has there been
any drama recently
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in the house over there?
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Like arguments between people,
fights, anything like that?
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[Nyisha] No.
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That's what we were
trying to figure out,
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because he--honestly,
he's not that type of person.
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[Corey] Right.
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[Nyisha] He's really
a happy-go-lucky guy.
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[Corey] Hm.
[Nyisha] So.
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[Corey] How's the relationship
with the ex-wife?
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Is everything good?
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[Nyisha] Yeah, they're fine.
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They recently
just signed their papers.
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[Corey] OK.
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[Nyisha] But it wasn't
a heated divorce.
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It wasn't bad.
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- Do you know him
to be involved
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in anything bad,
like drug dealing
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or anything like that,
narcotics,
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anything to that extent?
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[Nyisha] No.
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He smoked a little weed.
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[Corey] OK.
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What about friend-wise?
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Who all would Rob
hang out with?
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[Nyisha] He was a ladies man.
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He hung out
with different girls.
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He just had been going
through some things,
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you know,
going through a new divorce,
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trying to figure it out.
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[Corey] Yeah. OK.
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[Nyisha]
This summer, he allowed
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people to live with him.
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[Narrator]
She gives to Shaffer the names
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of Rob's former roommates.
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- Did everything work out
when they got moved out,
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or was it like a bad move-out?
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- It wasn't that good?
[Nyisha] No.
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- OK.
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- This is wild.
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- No, I know it's a lot
for everybody.
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Thank you, ma'am.
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[clock ticking]
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[Narrator] As word of Rob's
murder continues to spread...
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[Narrator] The manager
of the jewelry store
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where he worked
shows up on scene.
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[Narrator]
She says last night,
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a woman picked Rob up
from work.
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[Scott]
What kind of car they left in?
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[Corey] So he left last night
from work with a girl.
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- But that's the last time
she saw him.
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[Narrator] Then...
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[Narrator]
Another possible break.
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[Narrator]
Rob's neighbors remember that
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he has a security camera
in his living room.
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[Corey] OK, let me go
check that out real quick.
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Give me one second.
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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Maybe that Ring camera was on
during the whole incident
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and just recording things,
which would tell us
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exactly what happened
and who did it.
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That would be huge.
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[Corey] The camera's on
'cause he's getting
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Ring notifications
on his phone.
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So we have high hopes for that.
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[clock ticking]
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♪ ♪
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We're hoping it's been on
since this morning,
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which means that it just--
it would have been activating
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from whatever happened inside.
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♪ ♪
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[George] My name is
George Robert Van Tine, Jr.
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I've been with the North
Charleston Police Department
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for 23 years.
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♪ ♪
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I spent just shy of five years
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in the persons unit working
violent crime and homicides.
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♪ ♪
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I'm honored with working
in cold cases now.
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The department set up this
unit to help bring justice
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to the victims
and the families
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where the case agent
has moved on.
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They've either been transferred
out or they retired,
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and the case still
isn't solved.
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Detective Shaffer has
transferred back to the road.
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So we're gonna continue
looking into Lowell Drive
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and pick up where he left off.
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Looks like in the report
when Shaffer left
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the crime scene that night,
his head was spinning.
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Probably had half a dozen
potential motives.
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It could be a burglary gone bad
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because there is
a window partially opened.
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There's been indication
that he is a ladies' man.
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He's in his underwear.
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So it could be something
with a lovers' quarrel.
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The ex-roommate may
have been involved.
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There was some type
of argument.
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And then there is a female
that picked him up from work
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and who was the last person
to see him.
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Once Shaffer goes home,
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evening shift starts
running with it,
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trying to get
into the victim's phone.
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Maybe there's some indication
of who that female
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that picked him up
from work may be.
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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[clock ticking]
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[Narrator] Seven hours in...
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[Sam] Mm-hmm.
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[Narrator] Digital forensics
examiner Sam Riedel
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was downloading Rob's phone...
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[Narrator] And found a text
conversation between Rob
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and the woman who picked him
up from work last night.
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[Officer] Get her in here,
see what she knows.
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♪ ♪
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[clock ticking]
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[Narrator] Two hours later...
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[Narrator]
Amanda agrees to talk.
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I sent my husband over there
after he got off work.
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- OK.
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All right, so you saw him
yesterday, correct?
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- Yeah, I picked him up
from work yesterday.
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It was about 10 till 6:00,
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and we went to the Publix
to get a sandwich.
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[Danielle] And once you guys
were there, what happened?
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- We smoked for a little bit.
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And we watched "Yo! MTV Raps,"
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and we ate our sandwich.
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And we smoked some more.
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[Tim] I don't know,
like, why her husband
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would think it'd be cool
if she goes
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to some other dude's house
and smokes weed with him.
333
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Is he, like, jealous
of their relationship?
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It's weird.
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- And I took off about 9:30.
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He walked me outside.
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We didn't spend too much time
outside because it was cold.
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He just said, I love you.
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The last that I heard from him
was last night
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when I told him I'm home,
and he responded,
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the little heart thing.
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[Danielle] And roughly
how long is the drive?
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- About an hour.
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- OK.
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And did he mention having
any plans afterwards?
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[Amanda] No, I think
he was gonna go to bed.
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He had to work today.
348
00:15:53,667 --> 00:15:55,207
- How did the two of you meet?
349
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And how long have you
known him?
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[Amanda] Since April of 2016
in Northwoods Mall.
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[Narrator]
She says she and Rob have
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been friends for eight years.
353
00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:06,542
[Amanda] We had
a conversation about Prince,
354
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the singer, and we've just
been friends ever since.
355
00:16:11,250 --> 00:16:14,167
[crying]
356
00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:20,333
- Have you and Rob ever had,
like, a sexual relationship?
357
00:16:22,875 --> 00:16:23,958
[Danielle]
So it's just friends?
358
00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:25,875
- Exactly.
- OK.
359
00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:27,917
Is he--he's pretty cool
with your husband?
360
00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,707
- Oh, yeah, absolutely.
361
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[tense music]
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00:16:33,625 --> 00:16:36,208
♪ ♪
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[Danielle] What was Rob wearing
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when you saw him last night?
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- Um...
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I think it was
a black long sleeve
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just shirt that he had on,
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jeans.
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♪ ♪
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- And do you know
what his relationship was like
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with the guy that
used to live with him?
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00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:13,333
- No.
373
00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:16,624
But he was there for quite
a while with his girlfriend.
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[Danielle] So what happened?
375
00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:19,083
- I don't know, honestly.
376
00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:21,792
Rob just referred to them
as houseguests,
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and I didn't ask
too many questions.
378
00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:28,333
The only thing that Rob seemed
to be stressed out about
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is his neighbor
smelling the weed.
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And we did talk about that
because he had his--
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he propped his sliding glass
door open a little bit,
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so it would air out.
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[Danielle] Do you know
if Rob kept that door open
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after you left?
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- Probably.
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He made me nervous
because he didn't lock things,
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that being one of them.
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[Danielle] Mm-hmm.
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[Danielle]
I'm sorry for your loss.
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♪ ♪
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Give me one more second.
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00:18:01,042 --> 00:18:07,417
♪ ♪
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It does sound like
her and the victim
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had a good friendship.
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Since she says that
her husband was cool with it,
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we do plan on following up
with the husband
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just to make sure that
there wasn't any type
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of jealousy on his end.
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- Yeah.
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00:18:24,375 --> 00:18:30,041
♪ ♪
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[George]
From glancing at this,
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Shaffer did talk
to Amanda's husband,
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00:18:34,375 --> 00:18:38,500
and it seemed like he was OK
with his wife going over there,
404
00:18:38,667 --> 00:18:41,374
that he knew the victim
and he didn't
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00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:42,875
have any issues with him.
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00:18:43,042 --> 00:18:45,541
He did not feel
the husband was involved.
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00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:47,874
So after the shift ended,
they were no closer
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00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:49,749
to a motive behind this.
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00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:51,374
♪ ♪
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According to witnesses,
Rob was a ladies' man.
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00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:57,875
So Shaffer's plan was to track
down the women he was seeing
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and track down the couple that
used to live with the victim.
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00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:05,749
And he also wanted access
to the footage
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00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:08,458
on the phone,
a Ring camera that was inside
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00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:12,042
the victim's home that may
have the possible suspect,
416
00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:14,707
which would have been huge.
417
00:19:14,708 --> 00:19:17,500
[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:24,792
[clock ticking]
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[Narrator] The next morning,
Detective Parker Bush,
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and Shaffer head out to try
to find some of the women
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00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,708
that Rob had been seeing.
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[Corey]
Could still be a chick.
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Sleeping around
with different women,
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00:19:37,375 --> 00:19:39,041
some chick could not like it.
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00:19:39,042 --> 00:19:40,541
[Parker] Well, that and then
427
00:19:40,542 --> 00:19:42,624
one of their significant
others finds out.
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00:19:42,625 --> 00:19:44,999
[Corey] Yeah, and shows up
there at the door going,
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00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,208
hey, can I talk to you?
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00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:47,750
And things go south.
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00:19:47,875 --> 00:19:49,000
[Parker] Yep.
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♪ ♪
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00:19:51,375 --> 00:19:53,082
[ringtone chiming]
434
00:19:53,083 --> 00:19:54,083
[Narrator] Then...
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00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:56,374
[Corey]
Hey, sir, how are you?
436
00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:58,375
[Narrator]
The team gets a tip...
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00:20:02,667 --> 00:20:05,500
[Narrator] From Robert Brown's
female ex-roommate.
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00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,667
[Narrator] She says
she suspects her ex-boyfriend,
439
00:20:12,833 --> 00:20:16,625
who's Rob's other ex-roommate,
may be the killer.
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00:20:19,542 --> 00:20:20,874
[Corey] OK.
441
00:20:20,875 --> 00:20:22,667
All right, well,
I appreciate it.
442
00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:24,708
- All right, take it easy.
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00:20:24,875 --> 00:20:27,458
♪ ♪
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00:20:38,667 --> 00:20:41,207
[Corey] Let's see
what this chick has to say.
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00:20:41,208 --> 00:20:43,082
♪ ♪
446
00:20:43,083 --> 00:20:46,041
[clock ticking]
447
00:20:46,042 --> 00:20:50,125
♪ ♪
448
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,374
[Corey] Hey, how are you?
449
00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:54,208
What happened?
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00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:04,625
[Detective] OK.
451
00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:09,500
[Narrator] She says while
they were living with Rob,
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00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:12,207
she and her boyfriend
weren't getting along.
453
00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:16,583
[Detective] How did it end
with y'all and Rob
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00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:18,625
and staying at his apartment?
455
00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:25,375
[Narrator] Rob asked them
to leave because his daughter
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was coming back
to live with him.
457
00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,624
[Narrator] And shortly
after they moved out,
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she and her boyfriend
broke up.
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00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:34,208
[Corey]
What makes you think
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00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:35,416
he would be the one involved?
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00:21:35,417 --> 00:21:36,292
Was there bad things
between him and Rob
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00:21:36,417 --> 00:21:37,500
when they were living there?
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00:21:47,042 --> 00:21:48,417
[Corey] OK.
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00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:54,958
[Corey] Right, right, OK.
465
00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:57,958
[Corey] OK.
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00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:10,458
[Corey] OK.
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00:22:10,583 --> 00:22:11,750
We're gonna continue
investigating
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00:22:11,875 --> 00:22:13,416
and go from there.
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00:22:13,417 --> 00:22:15,000
We have to go based off
where the evidence takes us.
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00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:16,417
I know you said
your intuition, but...
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00:22:18,542 --> 00:22:19,583
- Yeah.
472
00:22:25,292 --> 00:22:26,792
- No, 100%.
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00:22:28,333 --> 00:22:30,749
All right, well, thank you
for your time, ma'am.
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♪ ♪
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00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:38,874
[tense music]
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00:22:38,875 --> 00:22:41,541
[George] It was basically
woman's intuition
477
00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:44,291
that the ex-roommate
may have been involved.
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00:22:44,292 --> 00:22:47,374
But Detective Shaffer
did a search warrant
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00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:50,624
on the ex-roommate's phone.
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00:22:50,625 --> 00:22:52,749
And during the time frame
of the murder,
481
00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:57,082
that person's device was
in Florence, South Carolina.
482
00:22:57,083 --> 00:22:59,124
And I believe Shaffer spoke
to that person on the phone,
483
00:22:59,125 --> 00:23:00,625
and he was very cooperative.
484
00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,083
So I think he ruled him out.
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00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:05,750
♪ ♪
486
00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:08,374
Detective Shaffer, in his notes
and what he told me,
487
00:23:08,375 --> 00:23:11,291
seems like everyone
he talked to, whether it be
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00:23:11,292 --> 00:23:15,208
girlfriends, anybody, spoke
very highly of the victim.
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00:23:15,375 --> 00:23:17,957
And he got the sense
that no one
490
00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:22,458
in the victim's social circle
wanted to harm the victim.
491
00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:25,042
And everyone was baffled
as to who would do this.
492
00:23:28,083 --> 00:23:29,708
Shaffer hit a dead end.
493
00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,667
And so they had the Hail Mary
of the Ring camera
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00:23:32,792 --> 00:23:34,875
that was inside
the victim's home
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00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,333
that would potentially give us
some glimpse of who did it.
496
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,374
[tense music]
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00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:44,958
♪ ♪
498
00:23:45,083 --> 00:23:47,833
[clock ticking]
499
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,542
[Narrator] As the first 48
slips away...
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00:23:50,667 --> 00:23:53,042
[Sam] The camera covers
the living room.
501
00:23:53,167 --> 00:23:55,541
[Narrator] Shaffer gets an
update on the security camera
502
00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:57,499
in Rob's living room.
503
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:59,707
- But the Ring camera
that was in there,
504
00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:02,583
the plan is inactive,
505
00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:04,207
which means it will give you
506
00:24:04,208 --> 00:24:07,083
notifications and alerts,
507
00:24:07,208 --> 00:24:08,500
but it doesn't record
any of it.
508
00:24:08,625 --> 00:24:11,667
It's live view only.
509
00:24:11,792 --> 00:24:13,958
[Officer] So there's no video
of the actual shooting?
510
00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:15,667
- Nope.
511
00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:16,833
- Oh.
512
00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:19,958
Can't get freaking lucky
on none of it.
513
00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:21,541
- Back to square one on that.
514
00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:22,957
[Officer]
Felt too good to be true.
515
00:24:22,958 --> 00:24:25,874
♪ ♪
516
00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,374
- So yeah,
things are going well.
517
00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:29,582
Everything's coming
together nicely.
518
00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:32,541
And I mean that with
the most sarcasm possible.
519
00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:35,417
[tense music]
520
00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:38,707
[clock ticking]
521
00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:44,916
♪ ♪
522
00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:46,875
[Narrator] Six days later...
523
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,082
[Corey]
Number one, I am so sorry.
524
00:24:49,083 --> 00:24:50,875
This is the worst way
to meet someone, like I said,
525
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,500
in such a situation.
526
00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,500
[Narrator] Shaffer speaks
to Rob's mother.
527
00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:57,875
- He didn't deserve what he got
528
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000
because the type of person
that he was.
529
00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:02,707
Before I leave South Carolina,
530
00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:06,707
I need to go home with some
kind of closure.
531
00:25:06,708 --> 00:25:08,874
- Yes.
- Not just leaving my child.
532
00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:11,083
- I want to help and tell you
as much as I can,
533
00:25:11,208 --> 00:25:12,582
but it is ongoing,
534
00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:14,791
so there's a lot
I can't tell you right now.
535
00:25:14,792 --> 00:25:16,208
What I can tell you is this.
536
00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:17,750
There's two possibilities.
537
00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:20,417
It was either
a random burglary gone wrong
538
00:25:20,583 --> 00:25:22,125
or it was someone he knew.
539
00:25:40,958 --> 00:25:44,125
[Narrator] The team turns
to Rob's ex-wife and daughter.
540
00:25:50,417 --> 00:25:52,582
- Did your dad ever mention
541
00:25:52,583 --> 00:25:54,917
that his house got broken into
previously?
542
00:25:56,542 --> 00:25:58,500
[Danielle]
So tell me about that.
543
00:26:07,708 --> 00:26:08,667
[Danielle] OK.
544
00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:10,624
And did he tell you
how he thought
545
00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:12,542
the person was
able to get inside?
546
00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:19,541
[dramatic music]
547
00:26:19,542 --> 00:26:21,792
♪ ♪
548
00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:28,499
[Danielle]
Gotcha.
549
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,667
Like, what time of day
did it happen?
550
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,333
[Danielle] So night time?
551
00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:43,417
[Danielle]
Thank you again for coming in.
552
00:26:43,542 --> 00:26:46,667
I'm sorry for y'all's loss.
553
00:26:46,833 --> 00:26:49,541
Give me one second, OK?
554
00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,167
♪ ♪
555
00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:53,875
- He did get his stuff broken
into a couple of weeks ago.
556
00:26:54,042 --> 00:26:56,500
♪ ♪
557
00:26:56,625 --> 00:26:58,500
- And then I don't really see--
558
00:26:58,625 --> 00:27:01,707
there's no calls
for service over there.
559
00:27:01,708 --> 00:27:04,249
[Corey] So if he did,
he never reported it to us.
560
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:05,416
That's interesting.
561
00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:07,749
We'll have to chase
that down too.
562
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:10,416
We're just gonna keep talking
to more and more people.
563
00:27:10,417 --> 00:27:12,082
We're hoping to get
a bunch of video
564
00:27:12,083 --> 00:27:14,832
from the surrounding streets
and surrounding areas,
565
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,041
hoping that somebody's
camera somewhere
566
00:27:17,042 --> 00:27:19,792
caught someone running from
the scene that we could track
567
00:27:19,917 --> 00:27:22,291
or someone jumping in
a car right afterwards.
568
00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:23,333
- Yeah.
569
00:27:23,458 --> 00:27:25,041
[Corey] We just need
to get something.
570
00:27:25,042 --> 00:27:29,207
♪ ♪
571
00:27:29,208 --> 00:27:32,207
[dramatic music]
572
00:27:32,208 --> 00:27:34,500
♪ ♪
573
00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:36,875
[Narrator] Four days later...
574
00:27:39,167 --> 00:27:41,333
[Narrator] The team watches
surveillance video
575
00:27:41,458 --> 00:27:42,832
from the grocery store
576
00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,208
next to Rob's
apartment complex.
577
00:27:45,375 --> 00:27:49,125
[Corey] The victim's building
is right here.
578
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:52,041
Right there is, like, right
by where the window is at.
579
00:27:52,042 --> 00:27:53,667
We need, like,
some video of somebody
580
00:27:53,792 --> 00:27:56,583
running from the scene
or some [bleep].
581
00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,458
Otherwise, it's like
a [bleep] "Dateline" special.
582
00:27:59,583 --> 00:28:00,916
♪ ♪
583
00:28:00,917 --> 00:28:05,291
So far, not a lot of luck.
584
00:28:05,292 --> 00:28:07,042
[Narrator] Then...
585
00:28:09,042 --> 00:28:10,999
Where the green thing is at.
586
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,791
A thermal image of somebody
coming around from the backside
587
00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:16,500
of the victim's building
at 4:15 in the morning
588
00:28:16,625 --> 00:28:19,667
right before the shooting.
589
00:28:19,792 --> 00:28:22,583
We think the murder time
is around, like, 5:00 a.m.,
590
00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:25,458
but this is about 55 minutes
before that.
591
00:28:25,583 --> 00:28:29,082
This figure is just
wandering around.
592
00:28:29,083 --> 00:28:30,791
♪ ♪
593
00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:32,125
Very suspicious to me
594
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:33,708
'cause he's not going
into an apartment.
595
00:28:33,875 --> 00:28:35,374
He's not walking a dog.
596
00:28:35,375 --> 00:28:37,750
♪ ♪
597
00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:39,417
He's just wandering around
behind buildings
598
00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:41,041
in the middle of the night.
599
00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:42,457
I think the temperature
that night
600
00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:44,874
was, like, 40 degrees or less.
601
00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:46,917
So it was cold as hell out.
602
00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,916
And you're wandering around
at 4:00 in the morning.
603
00:28:49,917 --> 00:28:52,917
So my curiosity is,
why are you doing that?
604
00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:55,041
♪ ♪
605
00:28:55,042 --> 00:28:57,749
[Officer] They're looking to
break into somewhere.
606
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:59,332
[Corey] That's what
I was getting a feel for.
607
00:28:59,333 --> 00:29:01,874
Like, are they looking
for open windows and [bleep]?
608
00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:05,333
The homicide, he did have
his window left open.
609
00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:08,083
And his mother said
that he did get broken into
610
00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:09,541
a couple weeks ago.
611
00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:13,250
♪ ♪
612
00:29:16,083 --> 00:29:20,499
♪ ♪
613
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:21,542
Then I don't see him again.
614
00:29:21,708 --> 00:29:27,000
♪ ♪
615
00:29:29,542 --> 00:29:31,874
And then this video
we're getting
616
00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:34,042
is from right about here.
617
00:29:34,208 --> 00:29:35,957
[Narrator] Shaffer pulls up
doorbell footage
618
00:29:35,958 --> 00:29:37,791
they got from a neighbor
down the street
619
00:29:37,792 --> 00:29:39,874
from Rob's apartment.
620
00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:43,791
- This is at 5:12 a.m.,
minutes after we believe
621
00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:46,041
the homicide occurred,
of an individual
622
00:29:46,042 --> 00:29:47,707
walking down the street.
623
00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:52,707
♪ ♪
624
00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:54,624
Lowell Drive,
625
00:29:54,625 --> 00:29:56,832
which is where
the homicide occurred.
626
00:29:56,833 --> 00:29:57,917
[Officer]
This could potentially be
627
00:29:58,042 --> 00:29:59,792
the same person
from the video walking
628
00:29:59,958 --> 00:30:01,333
behind the apartment building.
629
00:30:01,458 --> 00:30:03,582
♪ ♪
630
00:30:03,583 --> 00:30:05,875
- This guy is
a potential suspect.
631
00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:14,292
But he's our best lead so far,
as you can say.
632
00:30:14,417 --> 00:30:15,749
- Yeah.
633
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:18,208
♪ ♪
634
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:20,916
- It's possible that it was
a burglary gone wrong.
635
00:30:20,917 --> 00:30:22,708
He's laying down and someone
was trying to break in.
636
00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,333
- Yeah.
637
00:30:24,458 --> 00:30:29,875
♪ ♪
638
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,750
[Narrator]
Three weeks later...
639
00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:32,957
[Officer] Hey, Cason?
640
00:30:32,958 --> 00:30:34,541
[Cason] Yes, sir?
641
00:30:34,542 --> 00:30:37,000
[Narrator] Detectives Cason
Alex and Carlos Ochoajaya
642
00:30:37,167 --> 00:30:39,166
are working a case
that they believe
643
00:30:39,167 --> 00:30:41,958
could be connected to Rob's.
644
00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:45,207
- So I have
a rash of burglaries
645
00:30:45,208 --> 00:30:47,291
in the Forest Hills area.
646
00:30:47,292 --> 00:30:50,208
And that's the same area
where the homicide was.
647
00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:52,166
[Narrator]
The most recent burglary
648
00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:55,083
occurred around 10:00
last night.
649
00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:56,791
- He went into the window
of their house
650
00:30:56,792 --> 00:30:58,749
while everybody was
inside the house
651
00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:01,041
and just stole all their stuff.
652
00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:02,916
The MO is exact same
for this kid.
653
00:31:02,917 --> 00:31:05,374
I dealt with him before,
where he likes
654
00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:08,000
to break into people houses
while people are home.
655
00:31:08,167 --> 00:31:11,332
[Narrator] Alex realized
the MO of last night's robbery
656
00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:12,874
matched that
of a juvenile burglar
657
00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:15,083
that he arrested
three months ago.
658
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:22,707
The case I arrested him for
back in September,
659
00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:24,167
he broke in the house.
660
00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,000
One of the roommates came home,
confronted him.
661
00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,624
He pulled a gun out on them.
662
00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,916
When me and other detectives
went to go pick him up,
663
00:31:29,917 --> 00:31:31,333
he tried to pull a gun out
on us,
664
00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:34,167
but we were able to stop him
before he was able to do it.
665
00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:36,708
[Narrator] Charges against
the juvenile for burglary
666
00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:39,499
three months ago
were dismissed.
667
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,167
- So he may be connected
into the homicide
668
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,583
because the MO
is just the same.
669
00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:46,875
♪ ♪
670
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,375
[Cason]
The juvenile suspect was
671
00:31:53,542 --> 00:31:56,416
definitely on the street at
the time Rob's murder happened.
672
00:31:56,417 --> 00:31:59,500
♪ ♪
673
00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:01,500
[Officer] So did she see
the guy who broke in?
674
00:32:02,958 --> 00:32:04,916
[Narrator] The victim
of last night's burglary
675
00:32:04,917 --> 00:32:07,167
was in her bedroom
when it happened.
676
00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:18,000
So then, this morning,
677
00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,832
a neighbor gives her
video footage.
678
00:32:20,833 --> 00:32:22,417
She see two Black males.
679
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:26,917
[Carlos] Out of that video
that she sees,
680
00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:29,500
she identifies the juvenile.
681
00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:31,832
[Narrator]
The burglary victim recognized
682
00:32:31,833 --> 00:32:33,041
one of the suspects
in the video
683
00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:34,582
from the neighborhood.
684
00:32:34,583 --> 00:32:37,707
He's the same juvenile
that Detective Alex arrested
685
00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,417
for the previous burglary.
686
00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:44,207
- So we think this may be
our suspect from the homicide.
687
00:32:44,208 --> 00:32:46,083
[Officer] It's possible.
688
00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:48,249
[Cason] The fact that he
was willing to pull a gun out
689
00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:51,332
on three officers in uniform,
the fact that he actually did
690
00:32:51,333 --> 00:32:55,041
pull a gun out on my other
victim and threatened her,
691
00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,000
I feel like he could
escalate that point,
692
00:32:58,167 --> 00:32:59,333
especially if he's
inside somebody house
693
00:32:59,458 --> 00:33:02,249
breaking in there
and they catch him.
694
00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:04,250
I wouldn't be surprised he
would do something like that.
695
00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:06,207
♪ ♪
696
00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:07,832
Unfortunately, we don't
have enough to arrest him
697
00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:08,916
for this burglary.
698
00:33:08,917 --> 00:33:12,333
♪ ♪
699
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,875
So the goal right now is to work
on building the burglary case
700
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,332
for those two.
701
00:33:17,333 --> 00:33:18,416
We're gonna follow
up with the victim.
702
00:33:18,417 --> 00:33:19,333
We're gonna go out
to her house.
703
00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:20,667
We'll start going
around the neighborhood
704
00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:22,041
canvassing for video.
705
00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,999
And then when we can get
enough to charge them
706
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,208
with the burglary,
we can pick them up.
707
00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:28,000
And while they're up here,
708
00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:29,583
talk to them
about the homicide.
709
00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:33,124
♪ ♪
710
00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:34,999
[George]
Detective Shaffer, in his notes
711
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,292
and what he told me,
he wasn't able to develop
712
00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,332
enough probable cause
or enough evidence
713
00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:44,957
for that one particular
burglary to charge him.
714
00:33:44,958 --> 00:33:47,957
And then Shaffer was
beginning the process
715
00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:50,167
of being promoted
out of the unit.
716
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:54,374
[Narrator] Six months after
Shaffer left the unit...
717
00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:57,167
[George] The property
detectives, Detective Cason,
718
00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,875
ended up charging
that juvenile suspect
719
00:34:00,042 --> 00:34:01,875
with yet another burglary.
720
00:34:02,042 --> 00:34:04,291
♪ ♪
721
00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:07,208
When Detective Cason
went to apprehend
722
00:34:07,375 --> 00:34:10,792
that juvenile suspect,
he had a backpack,
723
00:34:10,917 --> 00:34:13,332
just like the suspect
that is on camera,
724
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:16,292
walking back
towards his residence
725
00:34:16,417 --> 00:34:19,374
minutes after the homicide.
726
00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:23,332
So that's a strong
person of interest.
727
00:34:23,333 --> 00:34:25,917
So needed to somehow
find some way
728
00:34:26,042 --> 00:34:28,083
to convince him
to come to city hall
729
00:34:28,208 --> 00:34:30,542
to put him in a room
and interview him.
730
00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:34,458
♪ ♪
731
00:34:34,583 --> 00:34:37,582
[tense music]
732
00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:41,291
♪ ♪
733
00:34:41,292 --> 00:34:44,541
[Narrator]
13 months after Rob's murder...
734
00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:46,457
[George]
That juvenile suspect just
735
00:34:46,458 --> 00:34:49,916
came in today to pick up
some items from another case.
736
00:34:49,917 --> 00:34:52,041
So a phone, his backpack.
737
00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:54,958
So I'm gonna try to interview
him and see what he says.
738
00:34:55,083 --> 00:34:57,167
See if we can get him
to admit to this.
739
00:34:58,708 --> 00:34:59,750
Hey, how's it going?
740
00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,333
I'm Detective Van Tine.
741
00:35:02,458 --> 00:35:04,249
So you're looking to get
some items back?
742
00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:05,874
You're talking about,
like, a backpack.
743
00:35:05,875 --> 00:35:07,083
You're talking about a phone.
744
00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:11,707
[George]
OK, Apple iPhone was seized,
745
00:35:11,708 --> 00:35:12,833
and then you said your--
746
00:35:14,833 --> 00:35:16,000
[George] I got you.
747
00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:17,625
Do you always--how long
you had that backpack for?
748
00:35:21,708 --> 00:35:23,707
[George] We had some
burglaries in the area.
749
00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:26,582
And I'm wondering if--
if I show you a picture,
750
00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:28,791
if you ever hit this place
or remember it.
751
00:35:28,792 --> 00:35:33,500
♪ ♪
752
00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,333
[George] Yeah.
753
00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:42,250
December 3rd,
early in the morning, 2024,
754
00:35:42,375 --> 00:35:46,083
this place was broken into.
755
00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:48,167
This window is open.
756
00:35:48,292 --> 00:35:49,625
This was shattered.
757
00:35:51,792 --> 00:35:52,625
[chuckles]
758
00:35:57,083 --> 00:35:59,875
[George]
The thing is, I think you do.
759
00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:04,624
You would go into, like,
different places, right?
760
00:36:04,625 --> 00:36:07,167
And so I'm asking
about this particular one.
761
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:08,875
Get it off your chest.
What happened?
762
00:36:14,792 --> 00:36:15,624
[George] Let me ask you this.
763
00:36:15,625 --> 00:36:16,916
When you did these break-ins,
764
00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:18,375
did you have someone with you?
765
00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:23,750
[George] What do you do?
766
00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:26,125
[George] How do you get in
usually, though?
767
00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,417
[George] You always go
through, like, a window?
768
00:36:36,417 --> 00:36:37,624
[George] This window is open.
769
00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:39,707
You ever go through
this window and chill?
770
00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:44,708
♪ ♪
771
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,542
[tense music]
772
00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:55,083
[George]
Have you ever gone to a place
773
00:36:55,208 --> 00:36:57,458
where somebody lives
while they're in there?
774
00:37:02,042 --> 00:37:04,333
[George] Yeah, well,
not knowing they're in there.
775
00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:09,375
[George] When you go
and chill in these houses,
776
00:37:09,542 --> 00:37:11,292
you usually have
a weapon on you?
777
00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:16,583
[George] You were arrested
with guns in the past.
778
00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:21,875
[George] Right.
779
00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:39,333
[George] The phone, do you know
the passcode to that phone?
780
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,541
[Narrator] He gives Van Tine
the passcode.
781
00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:44,833
[George]
I'm gonna be honest with you.
782
00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:46,750
I won't be able to release it
today, that's for sure.
783
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:51,707
[George] Well, I got you.
784
00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:52,625
I feel you.
785
00:37:54,542 --> 00:37:55,917
[George] Yeah, you're good.
786
00:38:04,792 --> 00:38:06,666
Just denying, denying.
787
00:38:06,667 --> 00:38:09,666
He mentioned that he did
usually go through the windows.
788
00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:13,000
And this is entry through
a window unsecured.
789
00:38:13,125 --> 00:38:14,542
But I just don't have
enough to say--
790
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,582
I don't have any DNA
putting him there.
791
00:38:16,583 --> 00:38:19,333
I don't have any video
putting him there.
792
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,667
I got the passcode to his phone
so we can do the phone dump.
793
00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:24,374
So maybe there's something
in the text message
794
00:38:24,375 --> 00:38:27,207
that will either rule him out
or rule him in.
795
00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:32,667
♪ ♪
796
00:38:32,792 --> 00:38:34,667
The burglary suspect
that we just interviewed,
797
00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:36,416
we did dump his phone.
798
00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:39,250
Unfortunately,
there's nothing to prove
799
00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:41,249
that he committed this crime,
800
00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:43,917
but he is still a strong
person of interest.
801
00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:47,208
As far as the community,
maybe somebody knows something
802
00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:49,249
or he confided in somebody.
803
00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:51,000
Maybe someone has some
crucial information
804
00:38:51,125 --> 00:38:53,541
that will help solve it.
805
00:38:53,542 --> 00:38:55,500
I know this suspect
commits burglaries
806
00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,374
with other juveniles.
807
00:38:57,375 --> 00:39:00,083
Maybe they will cooperate
808
00:39:00,208 --> 00:39:02,125
and they'll be able
to come forward.
809
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:04,499
I think the thing
is just trying to--
810
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:09,582
never giving up and just hoping
that something will break.
811
00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:11,250
[Rob] ♪ And I won't
let them break me ♪
812
00:39:11,375 --> 00:39:13,042
♪ Them demons,
they won't take me ♪
813
00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:14,707
♪ I keep spreading love ♪
814
00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:16,625
♪ And you'll continue hatin' ♪
815
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,708
[George] Unsolved cases
are never closed.
816
00:39:18,875 --> 00:39:21,375
[Rob] ♪ Is what it is,
I'm the last one standin' ♪
817
00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:23,583
♪ I'm the heartbreak kid ♪
818
00:39:23,708 --> 00:39:25,082
[George] I'm gonna do
everything in my power
819
00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:27,000
to figure out who did this.
820
00:39:27,167 --> 00:39:29,167
Rob's life was taken.
821
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:30,708
Thank you.
822
00:39:30,917 --> 00:39:33,792
And so I feel it's important
to let the families know
823
00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:36,583
we are still actively
trying to solve it.
824
00:39:39,583 --> 00:39:40,874
- Yeah.
825
00:39:40,875 --> 00:39:44,500
If it's been over a year
or two years or three
826
00:39:44,625 --> 00:39:46,333
or ten or whatever
the case is,
827
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,166
we're never gonna
give up hope.
828
00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:49,582
We're never gonna stop trying.
829
00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:51,000
I'm never gonna quit on it.
830
00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,167
Never.
831
00:39:52,292 --> 00:39:59,167
♪ ♪
832
00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:01,000
[somber music]
833
00:40:01,167 --> 00:40:04,208
- He made people laugh
just by stepping in the room.
834
00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:05,875
♪ ♪
835
00:40:06,042 --> 00:40:07,041
He was just that silly.
836
00:40:07,042 --> 00:40:08,957
♪ ♪
837
00:40:08,958 --> 00:40:11,041
[Jimmie]
Just proud of him, you know?
838
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,541
Never had nothing bad
to say about my nephew.
839
00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:16,417
[Rosa] I just can't
wrap my mind around
840
00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:19,000
why somebody would
do that to him.
841
00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:22,167
[Linda] Whoever did it,
they took something
842
00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:25,542
away from me that could
never be replaced.
843
00:40:25,667 --> 00:40:30,374
They took a daddy away
from his kids.
844
00:40:30,375 --> 00:40:32,042
- It's been a struggle.
845
00:40:38,292 --> 00:40:42,582
With Kingston,
he doesn't understand.
846
00:40:42,583 --> 00:40:46,082
So he asks for him,
and I can't really explain
847
00:40:46,083 --> 00:40:47,957
why he's not there.
848
00:40:47,958 --> 00:40:49,666
♪ ♪
849
00:40:49,667 --> 00:40:51,583
With Journey,
it's a different type
850
00:40:51,708 --> 00:40:53,082
of difficulty,
'cause she knows.
851
00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:54,666
♪ ♪
852
00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:56,958
[Linda] She's angry and upset
853
00:40:57,125 --> 00:41:00,458
because somebody took
something so valuable
854
00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:03,874
away from her, from all of us.
855
00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:08,041
And I want to be able to look
at the person in their eyes
856
00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:10,582
and ask them why.
857
00:41:10,583 --> 00:41:13,707
[tense music]
858
00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:16,166
♪ ♪
859
00:41:16,167 --> 00:41:20,167
Father God, we gather today
in honor of Robert,
860
00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:23,249
hoping that this will
bring justice.
861
00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:24,832
♪ ♪
862
00:41:24,833 --> 00:41:27,707
Somebody knows
exactly what happened,
863
00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:31,707
and I pray that their
conscience will allow them
864
00:41:31,708 --> 00:41:34,666
to tell somebody
so that we'll know
865
00:41:34,667 --> 00:41:36,374
who did it and why.
866
00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:37,833
Put yourself in our shoes.
867
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,249
What if it was
your family member
868
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:42,500
and you know somebody know?
869
00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:45,000
Wouldn't you want them
to say it?
870
00:41:45,167 --> 00:41:46,750
It would help a lot.
871
00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:49,333
Please and thank you,
whoever you are.
872
00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:51,416
I know you know something.
873
00:41:51,417 --> 00:41:54,500
♪ ♪
874
00:41:54,625 --> 00:42:00,167
In loving memories,
Robert LaNorris Brown III.
875
00:42:00,292 --> 00:42:02,875
♪ ♪
876
00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,417
Justice for Rob Cobain.
877
00:42:05,542 --> 00:42:06,832
Say it loud.
878
00:42:06,833 --> 00:42:09,417
[All] Justice for Rob Cobain.
879
00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:13,041
Justice for Rob Cobain.
880
00:42:13,042 --> 00:42:14,457
Amen.
881
00:42:14,458 --> 00:42:16,292
♪ ♪
882
00:42:16,458 --> 00:42:17,167
[Rob] ♪ World ain't stoppin' ♪
883
00:42:17,375 --> 00:42:18,624
♪ Even if the people dyin' ♪
884
00:42:18,625 --> 00:42:20,249
♪ And their bodies
keep droppin' ♪
885
00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,332
♪ Heartbroken ♪
886
00:42:21,333 --> 00:42:22,667
♪ I must be Captain Planet ♪
887
00:42:22,792 --> 00:42:24,333
♪ I feel the Earth's pain ♪
888
00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:25,917
♪ My little heart is damaged ♪
889
00:42:26,083 --> 00:42:29,041
♪ Heartbroken, heartbroken,
whoo ♪
890
00:42:29,042 --> 00:42:31,332
♪ I'm heartbroken,
heartbroken, whoo ♪
891
00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:34,042
♪ ♪