1 00:00:07,807 --> 00:00:09,209 [Narrator] A cryptic 911 call 2 00:00:10,110 --> 00:00:13,146 summons officers to a horrific scene. 3 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:20,253 There was blood on the walls. 4 00:00:20,286 --> 00:00:23,456 It was an incredible, gruesome sight. 5 00:00:24,657 --> 00:00:28,061 [Narrator] The only witness is rendered helpless. 6 00:00:34,567 --> 00:00:36,069 [Roberts] When she was looking at me, 7 00:00:36,102 --> 00:00:38,371 it was almost like she was looking right through me. 8 00:00:38,405 --> 00:00:40,106 [Narrator] As the case unfolds, 9 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:45,745 investigators zero in on a repeat offender. 10 00:00:45,779 --> 00:00:46,913 [Lloyd] That's the same lady. 11 00:00:46,946 --> 00:00:48,815 That's the same house. 12 00:00:48,848 --> 00:00:51,117 It's the same kind of murder. 13 00:00:51,151 --> 00:00:52,619 [Narrator] The coldblooded truth 14 00:00:52,652 --> 00:00:57,023 will expose a killer driven by jealousy, greed, 15 00:00:57,057 --> 00:01:00,060 and experience. 16 00:01:00,093 --> 00:01:02,462 She kept extensive journals over the years. 17 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:08,768 He stated upon her recovery, 18 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:12,939 he was going to move and end their relationship. 19 00:01:12,972 --> 00:01:14,474 The moment somebody leaves 20 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:16,676 is the moment that is most dangerous. 21 00:01:17,977 --> 00:01:24,084 [theme music] 22 00:01:29,189 --> 00:01:31,591 [Narrator] Placerville, California. 23 00:01:31,624 --> 00:01:34,527 On January 6, 2013, 24 00:01:34,561 --> 00:01:37,964 it's just after 6PM when an unusual call 25 00:01:37,997 --> 00:01:41,368 comes in to the El Dorado County 911. 26 00:02:09,763 --> 00:02:13,066 He stated that he was at his office in Cameron Park. 27 00:02:13,066 --> 00:02:15,769 He was not on scene with the person. 28 00:02:15,802 --> 00:02:18,238 And he refused to answer most questions. 29 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,407 [siren wailing] 30 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,075 [Narrator] Multiple units from 31 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:23,877 the El Dorado Sheriff's Department 32 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:26,846 rush to the scene. 33 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,549 [Roberts] Really all we knew was, there was a possibility of 34 00:02:29,582 --> 00:02:32,552 a homicide or a fatality that happened within this house. 35 00:02:32,585 --> 00:02:34,754 We don't know what we're gonna be walking into. 36 00:02:36,956 --> 00:02:39,426 [music] 37 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:40,860 [Roberts] We established a perimeter. 38 00:02:40,894 --> 00:02:43,196 There were a group of us, including myself, 39 00:02:43,229 --> 00:02:46,099 that responded directly to the front of the house. 40 00:02:46,099 --> 00:02:48,234 It was really dark, late at night. 41 00:02:49,736 --> 00:02:52,372 [Narrator] Inside, deputies see a woman. 42 00:02:53,873 --> 00:02:57,277 [Lensing] She was going on as if nothing was wrong. 43 00:02:57,310 --> 00:03:01,181 The deputies on scene requested that dispatch 44 00:03:01,214 --> 00:03:03,750 contact the residence and call in 45 00:03:03,783 --> 00:03:07,887 to get a hold of the female that was inside. 46 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:10,857 Our dispatch was able to get her to, uh, to come out 47 00:03:10,890 --> 00:03:12,392 and exit the house. 48 00:03:14,728 --> 00:03:17,897 [Narrator] Deputies meet her at the front door. 49 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:22,936 She identifies herself as 70-year-old Colleen Harris. 50 00:03:22,969 --> 00:03:24,437 She tells them that her husband 51 00:03:24,471 --> 00:03:27,807 72-year-old Bob Harris, is in bed. 52 00:03:47,127 --> 00:03:48,194 [Roberts] When she was looking at me, 53 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:50,263 it was almost like she was looking right through me, 54 00:03:50,296 --> 00:03:51,431 like she wasn't talking to me. 55 00:03:51,464 --> 00:03:53,900 She was just talking. 56 00:03:55,669 --> 00:03:57,771 I started to think that maybe she wasn't in her, 57 00:03:57,804 --> 00:03:59,806 her right frame of mind. 58 00:03:59,839 --> 00:04:03,643 She looked at me and said, you just have to go see him. 59 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:05,478 And then she said that he was beautiful. 60 00:04:09,382 --> 00:04:11,117 [Narrator] Colleen remains outside 61 00:04:11,151 --> 00:04:14,354 while a team cautiously enters the home. 62 00:04:16,523 --> 00:04:19,092 [Roberts] We begin to start clearing the house. 63 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:22,529 I make my way down a, a long hallway. 64 00:04:22,562 --> 00:04:24,631 And I get to the very last bedroom. 65 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:29,803 [Lensing] There was blood on the walls. 66 00:04:29,836 --> 00:04:33,340 It was an incredible, gruesome sight. 67 00:04:36,476 --> 00:04:38,311 [Roberts] The bed is made, but you can see 68 00:04:38,345 --> 00:04:39,312 that there appears to be 69 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:41,881 a person completely covered from head to toe. 70 00:04:42,549 --> 00:04:44,584 I walk closer to the bed, 71 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:47,887 at which point I see a double barrel shotgun 72 00:04:47,921 --> 00:04:49,622 sitting on top of the blankets. 73 00:04:51,658 --> 00:04:54,461 [Narrator] The deputy slowly approaches. 74 00:04:58,932 --> 00:05:01,835 [Lensing] The deputy pulled back the blanket slightly 75 00:05:01,868 --> 00:05:04,871 to reveal what turned out to be Robert Harris. 76 00:05:07,173 --> 00:05:10,910 There was no mistaking that Mr. Harris could not be saved. 77 00:05:12,579 --> 00:05:14,381 [Roberts] There appeared to be a gunshot wound 78 00:05:14,414 --> 00:05:16,349 to the side of the face. 79 00:05:16,383 --> 00:05:19,753 His face was, was missing. 80 00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:23,556 [Narrator] The deputies lower their weapons 81 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:26,526 and call for detectives. 82 00:05:26,559 --> 00:05:28,361 [Roberts] Once they arrive, I give them 83 00:05:28,395 --> 00:05:31,097 pretty much a play by play of what occurred. 84 00:05:31,131 --> 00:05:32,532 It was very bizarre. 85 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:39,973 [Shiloh] They're quickly trying to size up whether or not 86 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:44,577 this is a self-inflicted death or if it's a homicide. 87 00:05:45,378 --> 00:05:46,946 [Narrator] Detectives examine the gun 88 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:49,683 laying next to Bob on the bed-- 89 00:05:49,716 --> 00:05:53,820 a pistol-gripped, sawed-off shotgun. 90 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:57,991 [Lensing] It seemed to be neatly placed next to his left hand. 91 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:00,794 The butt was down fairly low towards his feet 92 00:06:00,827 --> 00:06:04,030 and not within reach of his hand. 93 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:08,935 So that was the first indication that this was not a suicide. 94 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:13,707 [Narrator] The second red flag comes 95 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:16,242 when they take a close look at the gunshot wound 96 00:06:16,276 --> 00:06:19,713 to the left side of Bob's head. 97 00:06:19,746 --> 00:06:24,918 [Lensing] The entry was large, and there was gun powder residu 98 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:28,121 that would indicate that the end of the, 99 00:06:28,154 --> 00:06:30,156 the weapon that was used 100 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:33,493 was several inches away from his head. 101 00:06:35,862 --> 00:06:38,598 None of that is consistent with a self-inflicted wound. 102 00:06:38,631 --> 00:06:42,469 A person doesn't hold a shotgun away from their head 103 00:06:42,502 --> 00:06:44,938 when they kill themselves in that manner. 104 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,076 This was not a suicide. This was a homicide. 105 00:06:51,177 --> 00:06:54,581 At that point in time, Bob's daughter, Pam Stirling, 106 00:06:54,614 --> 00:06:57,283 was contacted and given the news 107 00:06:57,317 --> 00:06:59,352 that something had happened to her father. 108 00:07:01,321 --> 00:07:03,857 [music] 109 00:07:03,890 --> 00:07:09,763 [Narrator] Robert "Bob" Harris was born on February 3, 1940. 110 00:07:09,796 --> 00:07:11,765 Growing up in the Bay Area, 111 00:07:11,798 --> 00:07:16,236 Bob studied engineering at UC Berkeley. 112 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:19,506 He used his degree to turn his passion for the outdoors 113 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:21,808 into a paycheck. 114 00:07:21,841 --> 00:07:24,210 Bob worked for the U.S. Forest Service. 115 00:07:24,244 --> 00:07:25,478 [Lloyd] He became the administrator 116 00:07:25,512 --> 00:07:27,714 for the Lake Tahoe region. 117 00:07:27,747 --> 00:07:30,650 That is the most coveted position 118 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:34,254 in the entire U.S. Forest Service. 119 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:37,524 [Narrator] For many years, Bob focused on his career 120 00:07:37,557 --> 00:07:41,928 and raising three kids with his first wife. 121 00:07:41,961 --> 00:07:46,833 But when the kids left home, Bob's marriage came to an end, 122 00:07:46,866 --> 00:07:51,071 and he enjoyed the unfettered life of a bachelor. 123 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:52,706 [Phil] Bob was all in the family man. 124 00:07:52,739 --> 00:07:54,641 That divorce did rock the family pretty heavily. 125 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:56,743 But I don't think it, it destroyed it by any means, 126 00:07:56,776 --> 00:07:58,745 and Bob was still a good father. 127 00:08:02,215 --> 00:08:05,719 [Narrator] In the late '80s, Bob was working in El Dorado County 128 00:08:05,752 --> 00:08:10,890 when he reconnected with an old friend, Colleen Batten. 129 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:13,093 [Phil] They met when they were in middle school. 130 00:08:13,126 --> 00:08:15,362 And they were maybe kinda boyfriend, girlfriend 131 00:08:15,395 --> 00:08:17,931 at a very young age. 132 00:08:18,031 --> 00:08:22,369 And then they, it rekindled after Bob and my wife's mom 133 00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:24,037 had divorced. 134 00:08:26,773 --> 00:08:31,578 [Narrator] Like Bob, Colleen was also single with grown children 135 00:08:31,611 --> 00:08:35,582 In 1985, she was widowed when she lost her husband, 136 00:08:35,615 --> 00:08:39,252 Jim Batten, a prominent land surveyor. 137 00:08:39,285 --> 00:08:42,722 [Lloyd] Colleen took over Jim Batten's surveying business 138 00:08:42,756 --> 00:08:44,924 Jim Batten had a property portfolio 139 00:08:44,958 --> 00:08:47,193 worth about a million dollars, by some accounts, 140 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:50,063 so she took over all that. 141 00:08:50,063 --> 00:08:53,066 She successfully ran that company for a number of years. 142 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:57,604 She was fairly well off when she met Bob Harris. 143 00:08:57,637 --> 00:08:59,272 They called each other and began to talk, 144 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:01,675 and kind of the rest is history. 145 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:05,111 They got along well. They then begin to date. 146 00:09:05,145 --> 00:09:09,649 [Narrator] Bob was attracted to Colleen's can-do spirit. 147 00:09:09,683 --> 00:09:11,418 [Phil] She had built a Mercedes engine 148 00:09:11,451 --> 00:09:14,421 in the living room of the house that she had before they met 149 00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:15,789 without the instruction manual. 150 00:09:15,822 --> 00:09:19,492 Real bright, uh, with an engineering, uh, mind. 151 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:26,032 [Narrator] After dating for four years, 152 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:29,636 they married on September 2, 1990, 153 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:33,807 and moved into Colleen's sprawling Placerville home. 154 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,109 [Lloyd] They were sort of society types. 155 00:09:36,142 --> 00:09:36,943 They liked to mingle. 156 00:09:37,043 --> 00:09:40,146 They were well known and respected. 157 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:42,148 [Narrator] After two decades together, 158 00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:45,151 the hardworking couple had a large enough nest egg 159 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:47,220 to retire. 160 00:09:47,253 --> 00:09:51,324 They spent their newfound freedom giving back. 161 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:55,595 [Phil] She was friendly, she was doting over Bob. 162 00:09:55,628 --> 00:09:58,798 She was all in Bob-- 163 00:09:58,832 --> 00:10:03,837 was often next to him, would stay by him, uh, a lot. 164 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:06,106 [Joe] He was a star volunteer at the Sheriff's Department. 165 00:10:06,139 --> 00:10:08,675 He was a man who was really deeply involved 166 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:11,111 in his community. 167 00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:12,812 [Phil] He always was doing something productive. 168 00:10:12,846 --> 00:10:14,714 And she was kind of that way too. 169 00:10:14,748 --> 00:10:16,716 They were happy. 170 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:20,220 [Narrator] By 2013, Bob and Colleen had been together 171 00:10:20,253 --> 00:10:22,889 for nearly 30 years. 172 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,061 But on January 6th, 173 00:10:28,094 --> 00:10:32,899 their life together comes to a sudden and bizarre end. 174 00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:35,001 In the bedroom they find Bob, 175 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:39,372 and it's this absolutely horrific scene. 176 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:43,810 [Narrator] After El Dorado investigators rule out suicide, 177 00:10:43,843 --> 00:10:45,211 they check in with Colleen, 178 00:10:45,245 --> 00:10:49,215 who is outside the home with Sheriff's deputies. 179 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:52,285 Colleen Harris was seated in the back of 180 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:54,187 one of the patrol vehicles. 181 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:56,022 And she was being very cooperative. 182 00:10:56,056 --> 00:10:58,925 She simply seemed to have no emotion. 183 00:10:59,859 --> 00:11:01,695 Psychologically speaking, it could mean she might be having 184 00:11:01,728 --> 00:11:03,697 a dissociative moment, 185 00:11:03,730 --> 00:11:06,232 where she experienced something traumatic. 186 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,868 [Lensing] I stated to her that she was going to be taken 187 00:11:08,902 --> 00:11:10,737 to our office for an interview 188 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:13,740 in a more comfortable location to sit. 189 00:11:13,773 --> 00:11:15,208 Of course, I have a lot of questions. 190 00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:17,544 There's a lot of things that need to be answered. 191 00:11:17,577 --> 00:11:19,746 But we need to know more information 192 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:21,114 about what had occurred. 193 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:25,085 [Narrator] Coming up-- 194 00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:28,922 A hunt for answers ends with more questions. 195 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:41,901 [Narrator] And a secret past plays into the present. 196 00:11:41,935 --> 00:11:43,570 [Lensing] I receive a text on my phone, 197 00:11:43,603 --> 00:11:46,406 and it said I needed to immediately come out of 198 00:11:46,439 --> 00:11:47,774 the interview room because 199 00:11:47,807 --> 00:11:49,409 they had some very important information 200 00:11:49,442 --> 00:11:51,478 that could spin my investigatio 201 00:11:51,511 --> 00:11:53,680 in a completely different direction 202 00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:11,965 [Narrator] January 6, 2013. 203 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:13,566 El Dorado County detectives 204 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,872 are investigating the homicide of 72-year-old Bob Harris 205 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:21,074 after he was found dead in his bedroom 206 00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:23,610 from a gunshot wound to the head. 207 00:12:27,514 --> 00:12:29,149 While his wife, Colleen Harris, 208 00:12:29,182 --> 00:12:31,551 is on her way to the Sheriff's Department, 209 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:35,121 detectives try to make sense of the horrifying scene 210 00:12:35,155 --> 00:12:37,257 inside the home. 211 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:39,993 The victim was completely under the blankets, 212 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:43,329 appeared to be in sleeping attire. 213 00:12:43,363 --> 00:12:46,900 There was a large hole to the left side of his head 214 00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:49,869 near the cheek area 215 00:12:49,903 --> 00:12:52,605 that carried on through the skull 216 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,309 and out the right side of his head. 217 00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:03,049 [Joe] There are some indications that this is not a death 218 00:13:03,049 --> 00:13:06,786 that has happened in the very recent past. 219 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:09,723 The blood is congealed to a certain point. 220 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:12,359 [Shiloh] Rigor mortis has set in. 221 00:13:12,392 --> 00:13:14,160 He is cold to the touch. 222 00:13:14,194 --> 00:13:19,933 It appears as if several hours have passed since he was killed. 223 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:28,074 [Narrator] While the scene in the bedroom is gruesome, 224 00:13:28,108 --> 00:13:31,845 the rest of the house is untouched. 225 00:13:31,878 --> 00:13:33,446 The windows were all secure. 226 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,115 The doors were secure. 227 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,384 And it didn't appear that anybody had tried to break 228 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:39,519 into the home, 229 00:13:39,552 --> 00:13:43,323 and matter of fact, the home was very, very clean. 230 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:45,692 At this point during my investigation, 231 00:13:45,725 --> 00:13:48,395 we have little information. 232 00:13:48,428 --> 00:13:49,496 We have a homicide. 233 00:13:49,529 --> 00:13:52,098 And we have a woman, who is the wife of the decedent, 234 00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,300 that claims to not know what happened. 235 00:13:59,105 --> 00:14:01,675 [Narrator] Investigators head to the Sheriff's Office, 236 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:05,278 where they meet up with the widow in an interview room. 237 00:14:06,112 --> 00:14:09,082 [Joe] Du ring the interview, she puts her feet up on, 238 00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:10,917 uh, an empty chair. 239 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:15,622 She appears in every way to be very calm and relaxed 240 00:14:15,655 --> 00:14:19,125 as they were questioning her. 241 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:22,162 They're of course wanting to know what happened that evening 242 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:25,565 and have her lead them through the course of events. 243 00:14:26,666 --> 00:14:29,069 [Narrator] But the only memories Colleen has 244 00:14:29,069 --> 00:14:31,071 are of the night before. 245 00:14:52,359 --> 00:14:53,993 [Lensing] They had a very pleasant evening. 246 00:14:54,094 --> 00:14:58,965 And after nine o'clock, she doesn't remember. 247 00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:03,737 I asked Colleen why her attorney 248 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:06,539 dialed 911 to report this crime 249 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,375 and she claimed to not know. 250 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:11,044 She didn't know how that happened. 251 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:13,613 She remembers nothing until the deputies arrive. 252 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,585 [Narrator] Colleen tells them that she does have 253 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:21,454 one vague memory from the night 254 00:15:46,212 --> 00:15:49,916 She said she had put a blanket over his head, uh, 255 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:52,185 because he had a nosebleed. 256 00:15:52,218 --> 00:15:55,388 It was rather strange, because having been in that scene, 257 00:15:55,422 --> 00:16:01,261 what was in that house was a very traumatic, bloody scene 258 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:06,032 that could not anywhere remotel be confused with a nosebleed. 259 00:16:08,802 --> 00:16:12,339 [Narrator] Colleen attempts to explain her lack of memory. 260 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:39,833 [Shiloh] If she's truly experiencing 261 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:41,601 psychogenic amnesia, 262 00:16:41,634 --> 00:16:46,206 the amnesia could have been just for the death of Bob, 263 00:16:46,239 --> 00:16:48,074 the traumatic incident. 264 00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:51,311 And now she's experiencing emotion in real time. 265 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:58,218 [Narrator] Then the interview takes yet another bizarre turn. 266 00:17:12,132 --> 00:17:13,333 [Shiloh] And at that point, 267 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:17,404 she starts to become overcome with emotion 268 00:17:17,437 --> 00:17:18,371 and crying. 269 00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:28,248 [Narrator] Stunned, investigators 270 00:17:28,281 --> 00:17:30,150 take a different tack. 271 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:32,385 So, we let her talk, 272 00:17:32,419 --> 00:17:35,755 and we let her talk about whatever topic that she wanted. 273 00:17:35,789 --> 00:17:37,657 And she had told us essentially 274 00:17:37,691 --> 00:17:42,062 that her and Bob's relationship was great. 275 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:53,673 [Narrator] Colleen's behavior stumps investigators. 276 00:17:53,707 --> 00:17:56,910 She's truly experiencing psychogenic amnesia, 277 00:17:56,943 --> 00:18:02,148 or she could be portraying an emotional wife who has learned 278 00:18:02,182 --> 00:18:04,150 that her husband has died. 279 00:18:04,184 --> 00:18:07,921 When we look at the very rare situations 280 00:18:08,021 --> 00:18:11,057 in which psychogenic amnesia is present, 281 00:18:11,091 --> 00:18:13,560 this temporary memory loss, 282 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:16,396 it's protecting the person from what happened in the moment. 283 00:18:19,466 --> 00:18:24,437 [Narrator] Then, investigators get some alarming news. 284 00:18:24,471 --> 00:18:26,873 [Lensing] In the middle of interviewing Colleen, 285 00:18:26,906 --> 00:18:30,877 I receive a text on my phone, and it was the investigators. 286 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:33,813 They had said they had some very important information 287 00:18:33,847 --> 00:18:35,615 that could spin my investigatio 288 00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:37,550 in a completely different direction. 289 00:18:39,152 --> 00:18:40,620 I left the interview room, 290 00:18:40,653 --> 00:18:44,424 and the detective handed me a case from 1985, 291 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:50,330 where Colleen was a suspect in a homicide in that very same home. 292 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,968 [Narrator] Coming up-- 293 00:18:55,068 --> 00:18:58,238 A disturbing pattern takes shape. 294 00:18:58,271 --> 00:19:01,408 They find that Colleen had been responsible 295 00:19:01,441 --> 00:19:04,210 for the death of another husband. 296 00:19:05,011 --> 00:19:06,546 [Narrator] And alarming details 297 00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:10,850 from her previous husband's death come to light. 298 00:19:10,884 --> 00:19:13,820 [Joe] It was only after she worked with a psychologist 299 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:18,758 that she was able to somehow remember what had happened. 300 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,489 [Narrator] Investigators in Placerville, California, 301 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:51,858 are interviewing Colleen Harris 302 00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:55,061 about the murder of her husband, Bob Harris, 303 00:19:55,061 --> 00:19:57,864 when they receive some alarming news. 304 00:19:59,065 --> 00:20:03,003 In 1985, Colleen's first husband, Jim Batten, 305 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:05,171 was also murdered. 306 00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:07,807 [Lloyd] Someone put out the word, hey, 307 00:20:07,841 --> 00:20:10,010 you remember back in '85, Jim Batten? 308 00:20:10,043 --> 00:20:12,278 That's the same lady. 309 00:20:12,312 --> 00:20:14,314 That's the same house. 310 00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:17,017 It's the same kind of murder. 311 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,418 It's the same room! 312 00:20:22,322 --> 00:20:26,593 There was still a record of the 911 call from 1985. 313 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:40,206 [Shiloh] He was murdered. 314 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,911 And he also died laying in bed, shot. 315 00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:49,916 And she had also claimed some amnesia in that case. 316 00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:51,851 [Narrator] Colleen was arrested at the scene 317 00:20:51,885 --> 00:20:55,522 and immediately charged with Jim Batten's murder. 318 00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:58,224 [Lensing] The attorney that represented her 319 00:20:58,258 --> 00:21:01,961 during that trial was attorney Dave Weiner, 320 00:21:02,062 --> 00:21:04,064 and that is the same attorney 321 00:21:04,064 --> 00:21:08,234 that had made the telephone call to us on 911. 322 00:21:11,237 --> 00:21:14,074 [Narrator] Upon her arrest in 1985, 323 00:21:14,074 --> 00:21:16,876 Colleen claimed to have amnesia 324 00:21:16,910 --> 00:21:19,612 But at her trial about 5 months later, 325 00:21:19,646 --> 00:21:21,915 she seemed to have recovered memories 326 00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,884 from the day Jim was killed. 327 00:21:24,918 --> 00:21:27,721 [Joe] It was only after she worked with a psychologist 328 00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:32,992 that she was able to somehow remember what had happened. 329 00:21:34,361 --> 00:21:36,930 [Narrator] Colleen testified that on the day of the murder, 330 00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:40,266 she confronted Jim with divorce papers. 331 00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:44,437 [Joe] She was confronting her then husband Jim Batten 332 00:21:44,471 --> 00:21:46,573 because he had molested her daughter, 333 00:21:46,606 --> 00:21:50,510 and she was driven to protect her daughter. 334 00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:53,480 [Narrator] She alleged that the discussion escalated 335 00:21:53,513 --> 00:21:56,516 into a physical confrontation. 336 00:21:57,851 --> 00:22:01,821 [Joe] She says he began to sexually assault her, 337 00:22:01,855 --> 00:22:03,757 and that he put a gun to her head. 338 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,727 [Narrator] Colleen claimed that a struggle ensued, 339 00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:11,297 but she managed to get the gun from Jim's hands. 340 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,103 She shot and killed him in self-defense. 341 00:22:17,137 --> 00:22:18,805 She was acquitted. 342 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:23,076 At trial, the defense really was able to make Jim Batten out 343 00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:24,811 to be a sexual predator. 344 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:27,447 And Colleen was motivated because of 345 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,849 these terrible, terrible things that he'd done. 346 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:33,486 [Narrator] According to court records, 347 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,089 while Colleen opted not to press charges 348 00:22:36,122 --> 00:22:38,458 against Jim Batten at the time, 349 00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:40,393 her daughter always maintained 350 00:22:40,427 --> 00:22:44,264 that he was guilty of molestation. 351 00:22:45,098 --> 00:22:49,336 In the end, Colleen Batten was accquited of Jim's murder. 352 00:22:53,106 --> 00:22:55,175 Armed with this new information, 353 00:22:55,208 --> 00:22:59,179 El Dorado county insvestigators head back to the interview room 354 00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:02,048 to confront Colleen about Jim's death. 355 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:25,972 [Narrator] And when it comes to details, 356 00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:29,376 once again, Colleen's memory fails her. 357 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:44,991 [Narrator] Detectives continue to hold Colleen 358 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:48,795 in the interview room as they keep digging. 359 00:23:49,562 --> 00:23:50,897 [Lensing] The investigators were also 360 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,699 making contact with family members 361 00:23:52,732 --> 00:23:55,735 and seeing if they can get more information. 362 00:23:55,769 --> 00:23:58,672 [Narrator] Investigators learn that Bob and Colleen's marriage 363 00:23:58,705 --> 00:24:01,708 had been on the rocks for some time, 364 00:24:01,741 --> 00:24:04,044 largely because Colleen was convinced 365 00:24:04,044 --> 00:24:09,249 that Bob was having an affair with a woman in Mongolia. 366 00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:12,419 I don't know how interested in this other woman he was, 367 00:24:12,452 --> 00:24:16,489 Bob being seventy-two and she's approximately forty years old. 368 00:24:16,523 --> 00:24:19,559 But I know that Colleen was concerned about that. 369 00:24:21,761 --> 00:24:24,531 [Narrator] Whether the affair was real or not, 370 00:24:24,564 --> 00:24:28,435 Colleen claims Bob's dalliance didn't bother her. 371 00:24:42,782 --> 00:24:44,784 [Narrator] Despite Colleen's explanations, 372 00:24:44,818 --> 00:24:47,187 detectives are skeptical. 373 00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:51,658 [Lensing] We have the 1985 case 374 00:24:51,691 --> 00:24:57,197 that showed that Colleen had used the same M.O. 375 00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:58,531 There were a lot of similarities. 376 00:24:58,565 --> 00:25:02,635 We had enough probable cause to arrest Colleen at this point. 377 00:25:06,306 --> 00:25:08,942 [Narrator] Before Colleen heads to the county jail, 378 00:25:09,042 --> 00:25:11,277 detectives request she get checked out 379 00:25:11,311 --> 00:25:13,780 at a local hospital. 380 00:25:13,813 --> 00:25:15,782 [Shiloh] While under observation, 381 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:19,052 Colleen seems to have cognitive functioning intact 382 00:25:19,052 --> 00:25:21,955 and memory intact. 383 00:25:22,055 --> 00:25:23,723 [Narrator] But they do alert detectives 384 00:25:23,757 --> 00:25:27,627 to some concerning physical injuries. 385 00:25:29,062 --> 00:25:32,132 [Lloyd] She's got this abrasion in the middle of her chest. 386 00:25:32,165 --> 00:25:36,336 She also has a problem with, uh, one of the fingers. 387 00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:38,471 [Joe] Both the injury to her finger 388 00:25:38,505 --> 00:25:40,540 and the bruise to her chest 389 00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:44,310 would be very consistent with Colleen having held 390 00:25:44,344 --> 00:25:45,845 that sawed-off shotgun 391 00:25:45,879 --> 00:25:48,348 and having the gun push back violently 392 00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,083 and striking her in the chest. 393 00:25:53,353 --> 00:25:57,223 [Narrator] Autopsy results confirm Bob's cause of death, 394 00:25:57,257 --> 00:26:01,761 but pinpointing the time of death is more complicated. 395 00:26:01,795 --> 00:26:04,531 [Lensing] There'd been beginning stages of decomposition. 396 00:26:04,564 --> 00:26:06,166 That gives me a timeline. 397 00:26:06,199 --> 00:26:10,136 That tells me that this person had died not just recently, 398 00:26:10,170 --> 00:26:14,507 but many hours before we're even contacted, 399 00:26:14,541 --> 00:26:17,210 before the report of the homicide. 400 00:26:21,414 --> 00:26:24,551 [Narrator] Hoping to get more details of the timeline, 401 00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:26,252 investigators reach out to the man 402 00:26:26,286 --> 00:26:30,056 who made the initial 911 call-- 403 00:26:30,056 --> 00:26:35,061 Colleen's former defense attorney, David Weiner. 404 00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:37,530 And they soon learn he did more 405 00:26:37,564 --> 00:26:41,167 than just call the police that day. 406 00:26:41,201 --> 00:26:43,403 He had met with his client out at the crime scene 407 00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:45,772 for about an hour and a half before he went to his office 408 00:26:45,805 --> 00:26:47,874 and made that call. 409 00:26:47,907 --> 00:26:50,777 Weiner has always maintained that he never entered the home. 410 00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:52,178 He remained in the driveway, 411 00:26:52,212 --> 00:26:55,148 and he met with his client inside of his vehicle. 412 00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:57,884 He didn't stay at the scene. He didn't stay with his client. 413 00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:01,755 He left her on her own to deal with law enforcement. 414 00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:04,190 He refused to answer any questions. 415 00:27:04,224 --> 00:27:06,893 He didn't know if he was going to be her attorney or not, 416 00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:10,030 and that most of this was going to have to wait. 417 00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:14,434 [Joe] That is what a criminal defense attorney representing 418 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:16,903 a client almost certainly should do. 419 00:27:16,936 --> 00:27:19,072 The obvious conflict that he would create 420 00:27:19,105 --> 00:27:21,441 if he became a witness in the case 421 00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:23,810 against his client, Colleen Harris. 422 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,449 [Narrator] Investigators push forward, 423 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,885 continuing to build their case. 424 00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:35,855 They reach out again to Bob's daughter, 425 00:27:35,889 --> 00:27:38,491 47-year-old Pam Stirling, 426 00:27:38,525 --> 00:27:41,594 who agrees to come in for an interview. 427 00:27:41,628 --> 00:27:44,364 [Lensing] The very first thing that she brought up is that 428 00:27:44,397 --> 00:27:47,901 Colleen had been the suspect in the homicide in 1985, 429 00:27:47,934 --> 00:27:49,903 and they knew about it. 430 00:27:49,936 --> 00:27:53,273 Bob knew about it, but Bob didn't seem to be too worried 431 00:27:53,306 --> 00:27:57,677 and believed her, that it was in self-defense. 432 00:28:01,214 --> 00:28:04,651 [Narrator] Like Colleen, Pam mentions the infidelity, 433 00:28:04,684 --> 00:28:08,621 but says that Colleen was extremely upset 434 00:28:08,655 --> 00:28:11,024 that Bob might be having an affair-- 435 00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:14,527 so much so, that it had driven Bob to seek a divorce 436 00:28:14,561 --> 00:28:18,264 in September of 2012. 437 00:28:18,298 --> 00:28:22,836 She was texting Pam, you know, asking, why he's doing this? 438 00:28:22,869 --> 00:28:24,637 Is he in love with somebody else? 439 00:28:24,671 --> 00:28:27,273 One string of texts, Colleen is very hopeful 440 00:28:27,307 --> 00:28:29,943 that her and Bob are going to get back together. 441 00:28:30,043 --> 00:28:32,212 The next one, she's despondent about Bob leaving her 442 00:28:32,245 --> 00:28:35,048 and about their relationship ending. 443 00:28:38,051 --> 00:28:39,519 [Narrator] Two months later, 444 00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:43,456 Colleen convinced Bob to come back to the family home, 445 00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:46,059 at least temporarily. 446 00:28:46,092 --> 00:28:48,261 [Joe] Colleen was scheduled to have hip surgery, 447 00:28:48,294 --> 00:28:51,364 and she needed someone to help her. 448 00:28:51,398 --> 00:28:53,533 [Lensing] Bob moved back. 449 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:56,069 He stated upon her recovery, 450 00:28:56,069 --> 00:28:58,938 he was going to move to Tahoe, to a second home, 451 00:28:58,972 --> 00:29:01,775 and end their relationship. 452 00:29:04,044 --> 00:29:05,812 [Narrator] The night before the murder, 453 00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:08,381 Bob was still at the home in Placerville 454 00:29:08,415 --> 00:29:13,420 when Pam received the last text she would ever get from Colleen 455 00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:16,322 [Lensing] During that last exchange, 456 00:29:16,356 --> 00:29:19,859 Colleen indicated that she had caught Bob on the phone 457 00:29:19,893 --> 00:29:22,362 with his girlfriend from Mongolia. 458 00:29:22,395 --> 00:29:24,798 Pam said Colleen was very concerned with Bob 459 00:29:24,831 --> 00:29:27,200 being on the phone with this woman. 460 00:29:27,233 --> 00:29:29,536 [Lensing] Talking to Pam, that kind of gives us 461 00:29:29,569 --> 00:29:31,204 a little bit of context. 462 00:29:31,237 --> 00:29:36,876 Colleen actually was angry about the relationship dissolving. 463 00:29:36,910 --> 00:29:39,279 Colleen never mentioned that to us. 464 00:29:39,312 --> 00:29:42,415 Or anything about Bob leaving the home. 465 00:29:42,449 --> 00:29:43,917 The moment somebody leaves 466 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:46,119 is the moment that is most dangerous. 467 00:29:49,356 --> 00:29:51,224 [Narrator] Coming up-- 468 00:29:51,257 --> 00:29:55,829 The Harris home begins to give up its secrets. 469 00:29:55,862 --> 00:29:58,865 She kept extensive journals over the years. 470 00:29:58,898 --> 00:30:02,235 [Narrator] And investigators catch a break. 471 00:30:02,268 --> 00:30:05,038 [Shiloh] Not only does she leave her home for that evening, 472 00:30:05,071 --> 00:30:07,207 she's able to have the wherewithal 473 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,411 to give her location accurately to AAA. 474 00:30:26,126 --> 00:30:30,196 [Narrator] Days after the heinous murder of Bob Harris, 475 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:34,367 investigators are homing in on Bob's wife, Colleen Harris, 476 00:30:34,401 --> 00:30:36,236 as the prime suspect. 477 00:30:38,004 --> 00:30:40,073 [Lensing] Once we had received the search warrants, 478 00:30:40,106 --> 00:30:42,008 we went back to the residence, 479 00:30:42,042 --> 00:30:45,812 and we found a series of handwritten journals 480 00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:47,847 that were Colleen's. 481 00:30:47,881 --> 00:30:51,818 They claimed to have started in 1985. 482 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:53,687 [Joe] She portrays herself in the journals 483 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,324 as a faithful, loving wife whose husband, Bob, 484 00:30:58,358 --> 00:31:02,295 is mistreating her, and she forgives him. 485 00:31:04,964 --> 00:31:06,466 [Narrator] While reading the journals, 486 00:31:06,499 --> 00:31:11,137 investigators can't ignore a growing hunch. 487 00:31:11,171 --> 00:31:13,473 There's aspects of them that would suggest 488 00:31:13,506 --> 00:31:15,508 they're fabricated. 489 00:31:15,542 --> 00:31:20,947 Some of the entries had dates, and most did not. 490 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,083 And again, the chronology. 491 00:31:23,116 --> 00:31:25,719 You'd expect you would write and fill a page 492 00:31:25,752 --> 00:31:27,520 and you'd go on to the next page. 493 00:31:27,554 --> 00:31:32,759 The chronology following it in that context didn't really fit, 494 00:31:32,792 --> 00:31:34,394 and that's why I strongly suspect 495 00:31:34,427 --> 00:31:36,529 that they were written retrospectively. 496 00:31:37,497 --> 00:31:41,101 That would indicate a great deal of planning. 497 00:31:41,134 --> 00:31:42,669 The amount of time that it would take 498 00:31:42,702 --> 00:31:46,006 to fill years' worth of journal 499 00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:51,111 would have to have been started months in advance. 500 00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:57,751 [Narrator] Hoping to bolster their case 501 00:31:57,784 --> 00:31:59,753 for first-degree murder, 502 00:31:59,786 --> 00:32:02,355 investigators keep digging. 503 00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:04,557 We felt that writing a search warrant for 504 00:32:04,591 --> 00:32:06,593 the cellphone records of Colleen 505 00:32:06,626 --> 00:32:09,763 may give us more information. 506 00:32:09,796 --> 00:32:13,500 When we received the results of those cellphone records, 507 00:32:13,533 --> 00:32:15,568 it was alarming. 508 00:32:15,602 --> 00:32:18,405 [Narrator] In the hours after investigators believe 509 00:32:18,438 --> 00:32:23,877 Bob was murdered, they trace Colleen's movements. 510 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:25,879 During her interview, Colleen had claimed 511 00:32:25,912 --> 00:32:29,149 that she never left the house on Wilderness Way 512 00:32:29,182 --> 00:32:31,284 on the weekend of the murder. 513 00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:34,587 But we found out that her cellphone traveled from 514 00:32:34,621 --> 00:32:39,793 the Wilderness Way address all the way down Highway 50 515 00:32:39,826 --> 00:32:42,629 to Highway 80 and to the Bay Area. 516 00:32:42,662 --> 00:32:45,098 So this wasn't a woman who was in a fog. 517 00:32:45,098 --> 00:32:47,334 This wasn't a woman who had remained in 518 00:32:47,367 --> 00:32:49,936 the Wilderness Way address, like she claimed. 519 00:32:51,304 --> 00:32:54,107 [Narrator] Records show that following Bob's murder, 520 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:57,811 Colleen made the three-hour drive to San Francisco, 521 00:32:57,844 --> 00:33:00,413 arriving around 10AM. 522 00:33:02,048 --> 00:33:04,751 On her way home, she makes a stop, 523 00:33:04,784 --> 00:33:07,120 because her car becomes inoperable. 524 00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:10,056 And because of that, she has to call AAA 525 00:33:10,056 --> 00:33:12,525 and ask for a tow truck. 526 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,061 [Joe] We were able to get the recording of Colleen Harris 527 00:33:15,061 --> 00:33:18,198 calling AAA from the side of US 80. 528 00:33:40,854 --> 00:33:42,856 [Lensing] She was very articulate. 529 00:33:42,889 --> 00:33:45,859 She stated where she was at, what she needed, 530 00:33:45,892 --> 00:33:47,894 how to get there. 531 00:33:47,927 --> 00:33:49,896 There doesn't seem to be any confusion. 532 00:33:49,929 --> 00:33:52,232 And that was just the information 533 00:33:52,265 --> 00:33:54,234 that we were looking for to confirm 534 00:33:54,267 --> 00:34:00,273 that this claim of amnesia is false. 535 00:34:00,306 --> 00:34:02,275 [Shiloh] They're able to find that not only 536 00:34:02,308 --> 00:34:04,377 does she leave her home for that evening, 537 00:34:04,411 --> 00:34:08,214 then on her way home, she's able to have the wherewithal 538 00:34:08,248 --> 00:34:12,218 to give her location accurately to AAA. 539 00:34:16,623 --> 00:34:18,725 [Narrator] Now investigators want to know 540 00:34:18,758 --> 00:34:23,430 where Colleen was headed and why. 541 00:34:23,463 --> 00:34:26,499 [Joe] We found one of the towers the phone pinged off of 542 00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:32,105 was right next to Colleen Harris' adult son's residence 543 00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:34,974 in San Francisco. 544 00:34:35,075 --> 00:34:36,209 [Lensing] We found that to be odd, 545 00:34:36,242 --> 00:34:37,644 because during this period, 546 00:34:37,677 --> 00:34:40,714 she was claiming to be in a gray fog. 547 00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:41,848 After finding this information, 548 00:34:41,881 --> 00:34:47,454 we attempted to contact her son, Wesley Thornberry. 549 00:34:49,723 --> 00:34:53,626 Initially, Wesley said he didn't have any contact with his mother 550 00:34:53,660 --> 00:34:56,463 on Sunday, January 6. 551 00:34:56,496 --> 00:34:58,765 [Narrator] However, Wesley tells investigators 552 00:34:58,798 --> 00:35:03,136 that his mother did try to call him that morning. 553 00:35:03,169 --> 00:35:04,571 [Joe] She was in the Bay Area, 554 00:35:04,604 --> 00:35:06,639 and she was hoping to meet up with him. 555 00:35:06,673 --> 00:35:10,377 But he insisted that he never actually met up with her. 556 00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:13,580 He was unable to do so because Wesley had gone out to brunch 557 00:35:13,613 --> 00:35:15,415 with his fiancée. 558 00:35:18,685 --> 00:35:21,454 [Narrator] Certain there is more to this story, 559 00:35:21,488 --> 00:35:26,359 detectives take a closer look at Colleen and Bob's finances, 560 00:35:26,393 --> 00:35:28,228 and they stumble across something 561 00:35:28,261 --> 00:35:31,164 that sparks their interest. 562 00:35:31,197 --> 00:35:33,767 [Joe] Colleen and Bob had actually divorced 563 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,337 for about a year in 2004. 564 00:35:37,370 --> 00:35:40,206 And apparently the divorce was done 565 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,443 so that Colleen could take advantage of some financial 566 00:35:43,476 --> 00:35:47,347 death benefits from her former husband, Jim Batten. 567 00:35:48,181 --> 00:35:53,420 She got his survivor benefits-- I think $1100 a month. 568 00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:56,523 They had remarried after Colleen had been able to 569 00:35:56,556 --> 00:35:58,525 secure those benefits. 570 00:35:58,558 --> 00:36:02,762 At the very least, it proved how keenly focused 571 00:36:02,796 --> 00:36:05,765 Colleen was on finances. 572 00:36:08,034 --> 00:36:10,637 [Narrator] Investigators learn that Colleen could expect 573 00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:15,342 another payday following Bob's death. 574 00:36:15,375 --> 00:36:18,745 Bob had had a, a long career and a pension. 575 00:36:18,778 --> 00:36:20,480 And they were well off, 576 00:36:20,513 --> 00:36:24,818 with an estate of approximately a million dollars. 577 00:36:24,851 --> 00:36:29,389 In both cases, she stood to gain from the demise of her husband. 578 00:36:34,327 --> 00:36:36,229 [Narrator] As detectives are collecting evidence 579 00:36:36,262 --> 00:36:38,365 of Colleen's motives, 580 00:36:38,398 --> 00:36:42,335 they get a strange call from David Weiner. 581 00:36:42,369 --> 00:36:46,339 I was contacted by attorney Dave Weiner, um. 582 00:36:46,373 --> 00:36:48,842 He stated that he had some possessions 583 00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:52,078 that were given to him that he wanted or felt that needed 584 00:36:52,078 --> 00:36:54,614 to be turned over to law enforcement. 585 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:57,317 So he didn't tell us the relevance of it. 586 00:36:57,350 --> 00:37:00,754 And essentially, Attorney Weiner had stated, you'll find out. 587 00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:05,291 [Narrator] Coming up-- 588 00:37:05,325 --> 00:37:08,228 The reason for Colleen's trip to the Bay Area 589 00:37:08,261 --> 00:37:10,730 is finally revealed. 590 00:37:10,764 --> 00:37:13,099 The entire collection was probably worth twenty, thirty, 591 00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:15,268 forty thousand dollars or so. 592 00:37:15,301 --> 00:37:19,472 [Narrator] And later, it's déjà vu all over again. 593 00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:22,509 In the middle of the trial, 594 00:37:22,542 --> 00:37:26,179 Colleen says that she starts to get some memory back. 595 00:37:41,461 --> 00:37:43,697 [Narrator] As Colleen Harris awaits trial 596 00:37:43,730 --> 00:37:46,933 for the shooting death of her husband, Bob Harris, 597 00:37:46,966 --> 00:37:50,537 investigators get a surprising phone call. 598 00:37:51,871 --> 00:37:55,375 [Lensing] I was contacted by attorney Dave Weiner. 599 00:37:55,408 --> 00:37:57,911 He'd represented her in Jim Batten's homicide, 600 00:37:57,944 --> 00:38:01,581 and he was representing her in the homicide now. 601 00:38:02,382 --> 00:38:05,318 He had property that belonged to Bob Harris. 602 00:38:05,352 --> 00:38:08,822 And it included a large coin collection. 603 00:38:08,855 --> 00:38:12,625 We subsequently learned that those items were brought to him 604 00:38:12,659 --> 00:38:17,564 by Colleen Harris' son, uh, Wesley. 605 00:38:17,597 --> 00:38:21,201 He took all those items and gave them to David Weiner 606 00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:24,104 as opposed to giving them to the police. 607 00:38:24,137 --> 00:38:27,540 Wesley claimed that he found the items in his garage 608 00:38:27,574 --> 00:38:29,209 after his mother had been arrested 609 00:38:29,242 --> 00:38:31,411 for the murder of Bob Harris. 610 00:38:31,444 --> 00:38:33,947 [Paul] Colleen brought a bunch of coins down to 611 00:38:34,047 --> 00:38:36,549 Wesley's, left them in his garage. 612 00:38:36,583 --> 00:38:39,786 According to him, never saw him, and then driven back up. 613 00:38:40,653 --> 00:38:42,355 The entire collection was probably worth twenty, thirty, 614 00:38:42,389 --> 00:38:44,190 forty thousand dollars or so. 615 00:38:47,260 --> 00:38:50,397 [Narrator] On March 17, 2015, 616 00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:54,567 the trial for Bob's murder gets underway. 617 00:38:54,601 --> 00:38:56,803 When the coin collection is addressed, 618 00:38:56,836 --> 00:39:00,340 it points to more scheming by Colleen. 619 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:04,411 [Joe] She claimed at trial that she moved the coin collection 620 00:39:04,444 --> 00:39:06,579 so that they wouldn't be stolen 621 00:39:06,613 --> 00:39:10,650 But that never made particular sense to me. 622 00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:13,386 And I've always strongly suspected 623 00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:17,557 that she had some idea that she would stage, uh, 624 00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:20,593 the house to look like it had been broken into. 625 00:39:20,627 --> 00:39:24,030 And could claim that she came home, and she found Bob, 626 00:39:24,064 --> 00:39:26,933 and he must have been killed by whoever broke into the house. 627 00:39:27,033 --> 00:39:31,504 But I've always believed that Colleen had shifting ideas abou 628 00:39:31,538 --> 00:39:34,441 what she was going to do to get away with this crime. 629 00:39:34,474 --> 00:39:36,776 And so, it seems that's something that she, 630 00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:39,479 she abandoned and didn't follow through with. 631 00:39:43,049 --> 00:39:46,052 [Narrator] Prosecutors lay out a timeline of events 632 00:39:46,052 --> 00:39:48,922 leading up to Bob's murder. 633 00:39:48,955 --> 00:39:52,058 [Joe] Colleen and Bob had had dinner on Saturday night 634 00:39:52,058 --> 00:39:53,960 and watched some television. 635 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:57,397 Bob at some point of time must've disclosed 636 00:39:57,430 --> 00:40:00,667 that it was his plan to drive back up 637 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,869 to the South Lake Tahoe cabin on Sunday. 638 00:40:04,637 --> 00:40:06,639 The moment she snapped 639 00:40:06,673 --> 00:40:08,508 was knowing that he was going to leave. 640 00:40:10,210 --> 00:40:13,046 [Narrator] With Bob set to leave the next morning, 641 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,049 Colleen came up with a plan. 642 00:40:17,384 --> 00:40:20,053 [Joe] She waited until he was asleep, 643 00:40:20,086 --> 00:40:23,923 and she went into that bedroom with that sawed-off shotgun, 644 00:40:23,957 --> 00:40:27,093 and she leaned across that bed and shot him 645 00:40:27,127 --> 00:40:28,995 at near point-blank range... 646 00:40:29,029 --> 00:40:30,797 [gunshot] 647 00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:32,465 [Joe] ...killing him instantly. 648 00:40:33,233 --> 00:40:36,870 [music] 649 00:40:36,903 --> 00:40:39,539 [Narrator] Colleen then spent the next several hours 650 00:40:39,572 --> 00:40:43,076 plotting her defense. 651 00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:44,544 [Joe] One of the ideas was 652 00:40:44,577 --> 00:40:46,579 trying to clean up the crime scene. 653 00:40:46,613 --> 00:40:48,882 And she pretty quickly abandoned that idea, uh, 654 00:40:48,915 --> 00:40:51,451 because it was just overwhelming. 655 00:40:51,484 --> 00:40:54,087 [Narrator] Instead, Colleen called the same man 656 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,223 who helped her back in 1985-- 657 00:40:57,257 --> 00:41:01,695 defense attorney David Weiner. 658 00:41:01,728 --> 00:41:03,697 [Phil] She called her lawyer from the crime scene, 659 00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:07,367 and then he calls the police. 660 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,236 And she met with him hours before 661 00:41:10,270 --> 00:41:11,905 law enforcement was notified. 662 00:41:15,575 --> 00:41:17,110 [Narrator] In court, the defense 663 00:41:17,143 --> 00:41:22,115 struggles to find their footing the second time around. 664 00:41:22,148 --> 00:41:25,518 [Joe] The defense kept presenting different defenses-- 665 00:41:25,552 --> 00:41:29,789 suicide, accident, self-defense, amnesia. 666 00:41:29,823 --> 00:41:32,292 I mean, they fluctuated between those different ideas, 667 00:41:32,325 --> 00:41:34,394 much like Colleen seemed to fluctuate 668 00:41:34,427 --> 00:41:35,729 between different ideas as to 669 00:41:35,762 --> 00:41:37,430 how she was going to cover up the murder. 670 00:41:39,099 --> 00:41:42,769 The recording of the call to AAA was really compelling, 671 00:41:42,802 --> 00:41:46,973 because the jury was able to hear in Colleen's own voice 672 00:41:47,007 --> 00:41:51,978 and own words that she was aware of her surroundings, cognizant, 673 00:41:52,012 --> 00:41:55,582 she was answering questions and giving information. 674 00:41:55,615 --> 00:41:57,684 This wasn't a woman who was in a fog. 675 00:41:59,352 --> 00:42:01,054 [Joe] Colleen claimed at one point 676 00:42:01,054 --> 00:42:03,823 that Bob had assaulted her earlier in that evening. 677 00:42:05,525 --> 00:42:07,594 [Shiloh] In the middle of the trial, 678 00:42:07,627 --> 00:42:11,097 Colleen says that she starts to get some memory back. 679 00:42:11,131 --> 00:42:13,867 And then she's able to get some flashes about 680 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,603 some sort of struggle, in which she describes 681 00:42:16,636 --> 00:42:19,472 she can feel the shotgun with her hands, 682 00:42:19,506 --> 00:42:22,609 and that Bob ends up taking control 683 00:42:22,642 --> 00:42:25,645 and accidentally fires the weapon. 684 00:42:27,414 --> 00:42:28,548 He is killed. 685 00:42:29,649 --> 00:42:31,084 None of which is supported by 686 00:42:31,084 --> 00:42:33,887 any of the crime scene evidence whatsoever. 687 00:42:36,356 --> 00:42:38,391 [Narrator] After a five-week trial, 688 00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:43,963 it takes the jury less than two hours to reach a verdict. 689 00:42:43,997 --> 00:42:46,766 [Joe] She was convicted of first-degree murder. 690 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,836 She was also convicted of a special allegation of 691 00:42:49,869 --> 00:42:53,173 using a firearm in order to commit the murder, 692 00:42:53,206 --> 00:42:56,476 resulting in an overall sentence of 50 years to life 693 00:42:56,509 --> 00:42:58,712 for Colleen Harris. 694 00:43:00,447 --> 00:43:04,184 [Narrator] Even though Colleen finally ended up behind bars 695 00:43:04,217 --> 00:43:08,888 Bob's family still grapples with what could've been. 696 00:43:10,056 --> 00:43:11,358 [Phil] We think of Grandpa Bob all the time, 697 00:43:11,391 --> 00:43:12,826 and we talk about him. 698 00:43:12,859 --> 00:43:15,462 His children and their children, my kids and his-- 699 00:43:15,495 --> 00:43:16,763 five grandkids total. 700 00:43:16,796 --> 00:43:19,165 And that's probably the legacy that hopefully will live on, 701 00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,868 and the kids will all learn who he was and what he did 702 00:43:21,901 --> 00:43:24,571 and carry that on forever. 703 00:43:28,608 --> 00:43:34,748 [music]