1 00:00:07,907 --> 00:00:09,374 [narrator] a hardworking army veteran 2 00:00:09,442 --> 00:00:12,644 Is shot dead with no witnesses. 3 00:00:17,151 --> 00:00:18,350 [jeremy] this was a complete whodunnit. 4 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:20,819 Your instant gut feeling is this is gonna be a tough one. 5 00:00:22,022 --> 00:00:24,022 [narrator] but the victim's sons are convinced 6 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:27,626 They know exactly who's to blame. 7 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:30,562 She was hoping he would die in the hospital. 8 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:32,264 [william] we go back over there 9 00:00:32,332 --> 00:00:35,167 And all of his 100,000 pieces worth of nascars and hot wheels, 10 00:00:35,235 --> 00:00:38,170 Everything was gone. 11 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:40,205 And there's animal's feces 12 00:00:40,274 --> 00:00:42,441 Everywhere through the whole house. 13 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:44,642 [henry] the urine smell was so strong. 14 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:47,479 She was gonna make sure it was unlivable. 15 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:50,715 [narrator] when investigators finally uncover the truth, 16 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:54,653 It reveals a plot even more bizarre... 17 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:57,623 He told detectives that he was a trained assassin. 18 00:01:02,529 --> 00:01:05,064 She wanted to make sure that she got 19 00:01:05,132 --> 00:01:07,166 What she felt like was owed to her. 20 00:01:08,635 --> 00:01:09,535 [gunshot] 21 00:01:11,138 --> 00:01:19,711 [theme music] 22 00:01:22,449 --> 00:01:23,949 [narrator] in southern indiana, 23 00:01:24,017 --> 00:01:27,786 Residents of scott county enjoy a peaceful lifestyle. 24 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:30,823 It's a rural community that's made up of 25 00:01:30,891 --> 00:01:35,794 A lot of hardworking, blue-collar citizens. 26 00:01:35,862 --> 00:01:38,430 It's got a small-town feel all the way around. 27 00:01:38,498 --> 00:01:39,664 Everybody knows everybody. 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,768 [narrator] but on September 27th, 2015, 29 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:46,271 That sense of security is disrupted 30 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,874 By an alarming 911 call. 31 00:01:59,753 --> 00:02:01,886 [narrator] the caller, leo butera, 32 00:02:01,888 --> 00:02:04,055 Says he's a mechanic who came to the house 33 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:05,491 To work on a car. 34 00:02:17,337 --> 00:02:20,505 [sirens wailing] 35 00:02:20,574 --> 00:02:22,607 [chris] when first responders arrive to the scene, 36 00:02:22,676 --> 00:02:24,476 There was a gravel driveway 37 00:02:24,544 --> 00:02:27,212 That led kind of back off of the road behind another residence. 38 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:31,650 [jac] I saw a man lying behind a gate. 39 00:02:31,718 --> 00:02:34,686 There was blood coming out of his nose and around his mouth. 40 00:02:36,657 --> 00:02:38,156 As I approached, I knew immediately 41 00:02:38,225 --> 00:02:40,759 That something was not right. 42 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:43,228 I waved my hand over the top of his eyes. 43 00:02:43,297 --> 00:02:45,998 I saw no movement in the pupils. 44 00:02:46,066 --> 00:02:48,533 And upon further investigation, 45 00:02:48,602 --> 00:02:52,704 I can see that there was a, a hole in the side of his temple. 46 00:02:55,942 --> 00:02:59,811 I checked for a pulse and didn't get a pulse. 47 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,047 And I was able to ascertain at that moment 48 00:03:02,115 --> 00:03:03,948 That he was obviously deceased. 49 00:03:04,818 --> 00:03:06,318 [jeremy] and the caller, leonard butera, was standing there, 50 00:03:06,386 --> 00:03:08,052 Explaining to them what he seen. 51 00:03:08,122 --> 00:03:09,554 He believed that subject to be bill reynolds 52 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:10,989 Because leonard was a friend of his. 53 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:14,058 [chris] and he was able to tell first responders 54 00:03:14,128 --> 00:03:16,795 Who mr. Reynolds was and who his family members were 55 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:18,730 So that contact could be made with them. 56 00:03:20,934 --> 00:03:23,268 On a call like this, you can never determine immediately 57 00:03:23,337 --> 00:03:25,970 If it's a self-inflicted gunshot wound or not. 58 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:29,541 In this case, the location of the wound, it was a toss-up. 59 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:31,810 Crime scene tech from the indiana state police 60 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:33,411 Was summonsed. 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,348 He moved the body to see if there was a gun underneath. 62 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:39,017 Uh, there was no gun, no shell casing, nothing. 63 00:03:39,019 --> 00:03:40,352 The indiana state police 64 00:03:40,420 --> 00:03:42,287 Immediately consider this a homicide 65 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:44,790 And were full speed with their investigation. 66 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:47,993 We were going to figure out what happened to bill reynolds. 67 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:54,966 [narrator] bill reynolds was born in dayton, ohio 68 00:03:55,035 --> 00:03:58,770 On July 28th, 1946. 69 00:03:58,838 --> 00:04:00,739 He grew up in a broken home 70 00:04:00,807 --> 00:04:04,109 And learned to fend for himself from a young age. 71 00:04:05,011 --> 00:04:06,678 My dad didn't talk about his childhood a whole lot 72 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:08,613 Because I don't think it was the greatest. 73 00:04:08,682 --> 00:04:10,448 When he was younger, he lived with his mother. 74 00:04:10,517 --> 00:04:13,418 And as he got a little older and became a teenager, 75 00:04:13,486 --> 00:04:16,388 He moved from ohio into indiana. 76 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:18,257 [william] he was a family man. 77 00:04:18,325 --> 00:04:20,492 You know, he took real good care of his family, 78 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,960 His mom, his sisters. 79 00:04:24,097 --> 00:04:27,331 [narrator] at 18, bill married his high school sweetheart, 80 00:04:27,333 --> 00:04:30,769 Intending to start a family of his own. 81 00:04:30,837 --> 00:04:33,638 Those plans were soon disrupted. 82 00:04:34,641 --> 00:04:36,941 [henry] it wasn't long after they got married that he was 83 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:38,510 Drafted into the army. 84 00:04:38,578 --> 00:04:40,044 And of course at that point, you know, 85 00:04:40,046 --> 00:04:42,947 He, he had to go to, overseas to vietnam. 86 00:04:43,016 --> 00:04:45,717 So I'm sure that that had somewhat of a strain, 87 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:47,819 You know, with my mother and my dad's marriage. 88 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:51,322 [narrator] while bill was overseas, 89 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:54,292 His wife gave birth to their first son. 90 00:04:54,361 --> 00:04:56,928 But bill still had several more years left 91 00:04:56,997 --> 00:04:58,597 On his tour of duty. 92 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,533 [william] he was over there about four years. 93 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:04,135 He got all kinds of medals. 94 00:05:04,137 --> 00:05:05,937 [henry] my dad seen a lot of things over there 95 00:05:06,006 --> 00:05:07,839 That he never talked to us about. 96 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:09,674 It was, you know, the way I understood it, 97 00:05:09,743 --> 00:05:11,677 It was pretty dramatic, pretty traumatizing. 98 00:05:13,446 --> 00:05:16,013 He was, he was ready to get out of there. 99 00:05:16,083 --> 00:05:18,116 Dad came back from the service to indiana, 100 00:05:18,185 --> 00:05:20,552 And then my mother got pregnant again with me. 101 00:05:21,822 --> 00:05:24,989 Dad bought a small little house there, in blocher, indiana, 102 00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:27,325 And that's where him and my mother lived 103 00:05:27,394 --> 00:05:29,027 And began to raise their family. 104 00:05:31,264 --> 00:05:32,331 Dad got a job. 105 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:33,465 He, uh, worked at the lumber mill 106 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:36,367 At that time for his brother. 107 00:05:36,437 --> 00:05:37,836 And they seemed to be doing really well. 108 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:40,438 [william] my mother and my father was married 109 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:41,840 For about eight, nine years. 110 00:05:41,908 --> 00:05:43,942 You know, they had a great relation. 111 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:46,478 And then I guess they finally just fell out of love, 112 00:05:46,546 --> 00:05:49,013 And then they went their separate ways 113 00:05:49,082 --> 00:05:50,148 When I was about seven. 114 00:05:53,386 --> 00:05:54,853 [narrator] after his divorce, 115 00:05:54,921 --> 00:05:57,889 Bill started working as a long-haul truck driver. 116 00:05:58,992 --> 00:06:01,025 [henry] my dad was very adventurous. 117 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:03,995 The whole truck driving thing gave him the opportunity 118 00:06:04,063 --> 00:06:07,532 To explore and do the things that he really liked to do, 119 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:09,568 And also get a paycheck for it. 120 00:06:10,471 --> 00:06:11,770 [narrator] when he was home, 121 00:06:11,838 --> 00:06:15,740 Bill spent his free time refurbishing cars. 122 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:17,475 [henry] he liked, you know, fast cars-- 123 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:19,511 Corvettes, firebirds. 124 00:06:19,579 --> 00:06:21,546 Whatever the, uh, new car was 125 00:06:21,615 --> 00:06:24,415 That had the biggest motor and the fastest engine. 126 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:25,617 But as he got older, you know, 127 00:06:25,685 --> 00:06:27,618 Car prices went from five thousand dollars 128 00:06:27,688 --> 00:06:30,522 To forty, fifty, sixty, seventy thousand dollars. 129 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:32,290 So I think at that point, 130 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:35,994 He kind of transferred that over to watching nascar on tv 131 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:39,464 And collecting the nascar cars, the die cast cars. 132 00:06:39,532 --> 00:06:41,800 He started picking his favorite drivers. 133 00:06:41,868 --> 00:06:44,402 He felt like they're gonna be worth money someday, 134 00:06:44,471 --> 00:06:46,605 So this is gonna be an investment for me. 135 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:52,244 [narrator] by the time he was in his fifties, 136 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:56,848 The kids were grown and bill was living a solitary life. 137 00:06:58,451 --> 00:07:00,551 But he got another chance at love 138 00:07:00,621 --> 00:07:03,955 When he met a single mother named dalene cates. 139 00:07:05,826 --> 00:07:08,760 [william] he seen that she had some chihuahuas for sale. 140 00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:13,097 So he went over and got a chihuahua. 141 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:15,233 [henry] he told me, "hey, I met someone, henry." 142 00:07:15,301 --> 00:07:16,568 You know, "she has red hair 143 00:07:16,636 --> 00:07:18,870 And she reminds me of reba mcintyre." 144 00:07:18,939 --> 00:07:22,774 My dad always had kind of, like, a tv crush on reba. 145 00:07:22,842 --> 00:07:24,976 So when he met dalene, he thought, this is the woman 146 00:07:25,044 --> 00:07:26,978 That I've looked for my whole life. 147 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:32,984 [narrator] after only a few months together, 148 00:07:33,053 --> 00:07:35,253 Bill asked dalene and her grandkids 149 00:07:35,321 --> 00:07:36,788 To move in with him, 150 00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:40,658 While dalene's daughter, johnetta, worked on the road. 151 00:07:40,727 --> 00:07:41,760 [henry] johnetta lived out of state, 152 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:43,761 And she was also a truck driver. 153 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:45,664 On the road a lot, was never home. 154 00:07:46,766 --> 00:07:48,667 [amaris] bill was an amazing papaw. 155 00:07:48,669 --> 00:07:49,801 He was great. 156 00:07:49,869 --> 00:07:54,138 Dalene mainly fell for bill because of the way he was 157 00:07:54,207 --> 00:07:56,107 With my brother, michael. 158 00:07:56,109 --> 00:08:00,244 It's very hard to find a man who is willing to take on 159 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:03,214 The responsibility of a handicapped child 160 00:08:03,283 --> 00:08:05,016 Who requires 24-hour care. 161 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:07,819 It seemed like my dad and amaris had a, 162 00:08:07,888 --> 00:08:10,021 Had a very good relationship. 163 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:13,325 [amaris] there was one time-- I was learning to drive, 164 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:15,293 And I might've accidentally busted the headlight. 165 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:20,098 Bill lied to my grandmother and said it was him who did it 166 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:21,600 So she wouldn't be mad at me. 167 00:08:22,603 --> 00:08:24,202 [narrator] in 2013, 168 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:27,772 Bill decided to give marriage another try. 169 00:08:28,608 --> 00:08:30,709 Dalene accepted his proposal, 170 00:08:30,711 --> 00:08:33,545 But bill soon faced a new setback. 171 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:37,916 About two years after my dad and them got married, 172 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:41,119 He ended up with cancer on his throat. 173 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:44,088 Dad going through vietnam, you know, surviving, 174 00:08:44,157 --> 00:08:46,758 Making it through all that, he's a pretty tough guy. 175 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:48,492 So he, he beat it. He made it. 176 00:08:48,562 --> 00:08:50,729 You know, the surgery was a success 177 00:08:50,731 --> 00:08:53,531 And he made it out okay. So, dad was excited. 178 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,634 He was ready to continue on with his life. 179 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:02,406 [narrator] less than a year after his recovery, 180 00:09:02,476 --> 00:09:05,810 Bill is found dead in his driveway. 181 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,549 Evidence at the scene indicates bill was murdered. 182 00:09:10,617 --> 00:09:13,919 The question for investigators is, why? 183 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:18,222 Any time you pull up to a crime scene with no witness, 184 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:21,325 No murder weapon, no physical evidence at the scene, 185 00:09:21,327 --> 00:09:23,294 And a victim laying there in broad daylight 186 00:09:23,363 --> 00:09:25,629 With nothing to go off of, 187 00:09:25,631 --> 00:09:27,899 Your instant gut feeling is this is gonna be a tough one. 188 00:09:28,969 --> 00:09:30,902 [don] we did search the residence. 189 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:34,438 At that time, we did not find any evidence 190 00:09:34,508 --> 00:09:36,074 Or anything that lead us to believe 191 00:09:36,142 --> 00:09:38,109 That anything had occurred inside. 192 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:43,948 [narrator] as the coroner prepares 193 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:46,484 To transport the body for an autopsy, 194 00:09:46,553 --> 00:09:49,354 Bill's sons arrive at the scene. 195 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:53,958 And they have a strong feeling about who killed their father. 196 00:09:54,027 --> 00:09:55,893 [don] henry reynolds and william reynolds 197 00:09:55,962 --> 00:09:58,630 Could see their dad laying in the driveway. 198 00:09:58,698 --> 00:10:01,132 And, um, they were very upset. 199 00:10:02,502 --> 00:10:04,502 [william] the police officers, they telling me to back up 200 00:10:04,571 --> 00:10:06,137 And I melted down. 201 00:10:06,206 --> 00:10:08,206 And I was screaming, "they killed him. 202 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:09,708 They killed him. They killed him." 203 00:10:12,712 --> 00:10:14,378 [narrator] coming up: 204 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:19,717 The prime suspect turns out to be someone close to home. 205 00:10:19,786 --> 00:10:22,120 [henry] she was acting very odd and strange, 206 00:10:22,188 --> 00:10:24,556 And he could just tell something's not right here. 207 00:10:25,658 --> 00:10:27,792 [narrator] and the investigation gets stranger 208 00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:30,194 At every turn. 209 00:10:30,263 --> 00:10:32,130 [william] we walk into my dad's house 210 00:10:32,198 --> 00:10:34,833 And there's animal's feces everywhere, 211 00:10:34,835 --> 00:10:37,268 And everything was gone. 212 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:43,942 [theme music] 213 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:55,353 [narrator] the scott county sheriff's office 214 00:10:55,421 --> 00:10:59,457 Is investigating the murder of 69-year-old bill reynolds, 215 00:10:59,525 --> 00:11:03,395 Who was found shot in the driveway of his indiana home. 216 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:06,998 We had no weapon. We had no shell casings. 217 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:08,866 This was a complete whodunnit. 218 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:10,468 And we had no witnesses available to us. 219 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:15,439 [narrator] while the crime scene offers little explanation, 220 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:18,242 Bill's sons tell police they know someone 221 00:11:18,311 --> 00:11:20,645 Who might have wanted him dead. 222 00:11:21,948 --> 00:11:24,015 [jeremy] after the arrival of the family on the scene, 223 00:11:24,084 --> 00:11:26,317 They were immediately interviewed by, by deputies. 224 00:11:30,823 --> 00:11:32,023 [narrator] bill's sons explain 225 00:11:32,091 --> 00:11:33,792 That their father's battle with cancer 226 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:36,895 Had caused a strain on his marriage. 227 00:11:36,897 --> 00:11:39,197 And when bill managed to recover, 228 00:11:39,265 --> 00:11:41,966 Dalene was anything but relieved 229 00:11:41,968 --> 00:11:44,269 When he was ready to return home. 230 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,841 Me and my brother went down to pick him up from the hospital 231 00:11:49,909 --> 00:11:52,243 To take him home over there. 232 00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:53,711 [henry] dad goes back to the residence 233 00:11:53,780 --> 00:11:55,346 And he starts noticing there's, uh, 234 00:11:55,415 --> 00:11:58,216 Some pretty peculiar things going on. 235 00:11:58,284 --> 00:12:01,252 A bunch of his clothes were packed up. 236 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:03,455 Dalene was acting very odd and strange, 237 00:12:03,523 --> 00:12:05,890 And he could just tell something's not right here. 238 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:09,527 [william] he said, "I need some clean clothes." 239 00:12:09,595 --> 00:12:13,264 And she said, "they're outside on the porch." 240 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:16,701 He said, "what's my [bleep] doing outside on the porch?" 241 00:12:16,769 --> 00:12:18,302 She just said, "I was cleaning." 242 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:20,071 And you know, he says, "cleaning, 243 00:12:20,139 --> 00:12:21,906 "you don't vacuum seal people's clothes 244 00:12:21,975 --> 00:12:24,275 And put them on the back porch." 245 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:26,044 She was boxing them up to get rid of them. 246 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:29,013 [narrator] they soon discovered 247 00:12:29,015 --> 00:12:32,150 Dalene made some other changes as well. 248 00:12:33,219 --> 00:12:34,352 [henry] he gave dalene the power of attorney. 249 00:12:35,355 --> 00:12:37,021 So if he don't make it out, 250 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:38,356 She takes care of the belongings. 251 00:12:40,026 --> 00:12:41,092 [william] when they was in the hospital, 252 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,327 She took all of his car titles 253 00:12:43,396 --> 00:12:46,430 And put them all in her name. 254 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:48,732 Dalene had put the piece of property 255 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:51,936 In both of their names as well. 256 00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:53,104 He kinda put two and two together 257 00:12:53,173 --> 00:12:55,173 That she didn't think I was gonna make it through surgery. 258 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:58,243 She was hoping he would die in the hospital. 259 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:00,979 [narrator] the chilling realization 260 00:13:00,981 --> 00:13:03,414 Led bill to end the marriage. 261 00:13:04,551 --> 00:13:07,318 Once he filed for divorce, things got pretty heated. 262 00:13:07,387 --> 00:13:09,287 She filed a restraining order against my dad. 263 00:13:09,355 --> 00:13:11,122 And so, dad had to leave the residence. 264 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:13,191 And then, uh, dad went and lived with my brother. 265 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:17,461 [narrator] bill's sons say as soon as he moved out, 266 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:21,999 Dalene's daughter, johnetta hall, moved in. 267 00:13:22,068 --> 00:13:24,168 Johnetta hall had come back to indiana 268 00:13:24,237 --> 00:13:27,105 And was staying at the residence with dalene cates. 269 00:13:28,408 --> 00:13:30,508 [amaris] dalene did not have many friends, 270 00:13:30,576 --> 00:13:35,446 So she would talk about her and bill's arguments with johnetta 271 00:13:35,515 --> 00:13:40,084 And vent to her, which in turn would make johnetta feel as if 272 00:13:40,153 --> 00:13:43,188 She had to defend dalene. 273 00:13:44,457 --> 00:13:47,458 Johnetta was very emotional, uh, and, and very upset. 274 00:13:48,594 --> 00:13:51,896 [narrator] and the problems only got worse. 275 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:53,331 Any time you file for divorce, 276 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:55,366 You're, you're technically not supposed to 277 00:13:55,435 --> 00:13:58,636 Touch any of the property or get rid of any of the property. 278 00:13:58,704 --> 00:14:00,972 My dad felt like that dalene was, 279 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,407 Was hauling all the property off the premises. 280 00:14:03,409 --> 00:14:05,343 So my dad, uh, talked my brother and I 281 00:14:05,411 --> 00:14:06,610 Into taking a video camera 282 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:10,514 And videoing as much as we possibly could 283 00:14:10,583 --> 00:14:11,716 Of what was there. 284 00:14:13,086 --> 00:14:14,285 [william] he had probably had over 285 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:17,288 A hundred thousand pieces worth of nascars and hot wheels. 286 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:20,124 And he had a dale earnhardt jr. In his bathrooms 287 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,560 From the floor stacked all the way to the ceiling. 288 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:26,064 He had the gold series and the platinum series in the house. 289 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,198 They're worth quite a bit of money 290 00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:29,334 'cause they're 24-carat gold cars. 291 00:14:30,436 --> 00:14:31,669 [chris] the family had indicated to us 292 00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:33,104 That the collection was worth 293 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:35,740 Probably in excess of $100,000. 294 00:14:37,443 --> 00:14:39,577 [henry] we went and videoed the cars and everything was there. 295 00:14:39,646 --> 00:14:41,713 He was just trying to protect himself 296 00:14:41,781 --> 00:14:46,150 So at the end, it could be split evenly and fairly, 297 00:14:46,152 --> 00:14:48,419 And that he wasn't gonna be taken advantage of. 298 00:14:51,691 --> 00:14:54,592 [narrator] as divorce proceedings moved forward, 299 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,062 In August 2015, the court awarded bill 300 00:14:58,130 --> 00:15:00,464 Possession of the residence. 301 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:03,000 The judge ordered dalene to vacate the property 302 00:15:03,002 --> 00:15:08,539 By September 20th, just a week before bill was murdered. 303 00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:09,941 [william] we go back over there, 304 00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:14,678 And all of his nascars, everything was gone. 305 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:18,015 His truck was gone. Everything was gone. 306 00:15:18,084 --> 00:15:19,884 She had chihuahuas. 307 00:15:19,952 --> 00:15:21,385 We walk into the house 308 00:15:21,454 --> 00:15:23,387 And there's animal's feces 309 00:15:23,456 --> 00:15:26,457 Everywhere through the whole house. 310 00:15:26,526 --> 00:15:28,559 The urine smell was so strong 311 00:15:28,628 --> 00:15:30,394 That you couldn't even stand to be in there 312 00:15:30,463 --> 00:15:31,996 More than five minutes. 313 00:15:32,065 --> 00:15:34,599 I mean, we had to open up all the windows and all the doors. 314 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:38,202 She was that upset that she had to vacate the premises 315 00:15:38,204 --> 00:15:40,738 That she was gonna make sure it was unlivable. 316 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:44,942 [narrator] dalene had also left behind 317 00:15:45,011 --> 00:15:47,378 A thinly veiled threat. 318 00:15:48,714 --> 00:15:50,414 When we went on to the living room, 319 00:15:50,483 --> 00:15:55,085 In his chair set a can of remington gun oil. 320 00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:56,287 Like, here you go. 321 00:15:56,356 --> 00:15:57,455 And he kept saying, "they're gonna kill me. 322 00:15:57,523 --> 00:15:59,457 They're gonna kill me. They're gonna kill me." 323 00:16:00,493 --> 00:16:04,762 Dalene was extremely mad about the fact that she was not 324 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:06,697 Awarded the house. 325 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:10,300 She believed it was completely and utterly unfair to her. 326 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:12,303 She cussed, ranted, and raved about it 327 00:16:12,372 --> 00:16:14,105 Multiple times a day. 328 00:16:16,408 --> 00:16:18,542 [narrator] but despite his concerns, 329 00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:21,745 Bill refused to be intimidated. 330 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:23,747 They had spent several days cleaning the house 331 00:16:23,749 --> 00:16:26,750 To try to get it to the spot where it was livable. 332 00:16:26,752 --> 00:16:28,952 And the night of September 27th, 2015 333 00:16:29,022 --> 00:16:32,322 Was actually going to be bill reynolds' first night back 334 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:34,592 In his residence. 335 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:38,730 There was nothing left but, you know, the bare essentials. 336 00:16:38,798 --> 00:16:41,999 The vehicles, was some of them was still there. 337 00:16:42,068 --> 00:16:45,770 You couldn't start it or nothin'. 338 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:51,709 So that's when he had leo butera come over to his place, 339 00:16:51,777 --> 00:16:55,179 So he could start it and drive it around. 340 00:16:55,248 --> 00:16:57,681 But when they showed up there, 341 00:16:57,683 --> 00:16:59,217 That's when they found him dead. 342 00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:05,556 [don] william and henry reynolds believe 343 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:08,726 That dalene had murdered their father, bill reynolds, 344 00:17:08,794 --> 00:17:11,629 Because they were going through a divorce 345 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:15,032 And she wanted to make sure that she got 346 00:17:15,101 --> 00:17:17,201 What she felt like was owed to her. 347 00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:20,370 [chris] given the information that had been provided by 348 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,739 The sons of bill reynolds, 349 00:17:21,807 --> 00:17:23,607 Detectives decided it was imperative 350 00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:26,244 To make contact with dalene cates. 351 00:17:29,249 --> 00:17:31,115 [narrator] investigators call dalene 352 00:17:31,117 --> 00:17:32,583 And set up a meeting with her 353 00:17:32,651 --> 00:17:35,519 At her new residence later that night. 354 00:17:36,322 --> 00:17:37,454 [jeremy] they sat down on the front porch, 355 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,890 And it was at that time that dalene was made aware 356 00:17:39,892 --> 00:17:41,525 That bill was deceased. 357 00:17:41,594 --> 00:17:45,262 Dalene seemed visibly upset at that news. 358 00:17:45,331 --> 00:17:46,463 She indicates that they'd had their trouble, 359 00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:47,631 But she'd been with him a long time 360 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:49,333 And she did care about him. 361 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:53,070 [narrator] despite dalene's emotional reaction, 362 00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:55,640 Police notice some red flags. 363 00:17:57,009 --> 00:17:59,811 [chris] she had been cleaning and had cleaning supplies out. 364 00:17:59,879 --> 00:18:02,513 Given the fact that they had just left the scene of, 365 00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:04,848 Of a murder, it immediately raises suspicions 366 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,685 That someone's trying to clean up evidence. 367 00:18:10,189 --> 00:18:15,026 [don] dalene was asked directly if she had shot bill reynolds. 368 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,929 And she said "[bleep] no." 369 00:18:17,997 --> 00:18:19,763 It would be more personal to her. 370 00:18:19,765 --> 00:18:21,865 She would use a knife or a bat. 371 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:23,501 She would not use a gun. 372 00:18:25,871 --> 00:18:29,106 The reaction of hearing this, like, 373 00:18:29,175 --> 00:18:30,675 Is she saying this right now? 374 00:18:33,879 --> 00:18:37,214 [chris] she was asked whether or not she owned any weapons. 375 00:18:37,216 --> 00:18:40,417 She told law enforcement that she owned a .410 shotgun 376 00:18:40,486 --> 00:18:42,220 And a .38 special 377 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:44,822 That she had not seen for quite some time. 378 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:46,857 She indicated it could either be in storage 379 00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:50,828 Or in some box somewhere from the move. 380 00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:52,863 She was also asked if she'd been with anybody 381 00:18:52,865 --> 00:18:55,432 To determine whether she was involved or not, 382 00:18:55,501 --> 00:18:57,001 Or if she has a solid alibi. 383 00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:01,805 [chris] ms. Cates indicated 384 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:03,206 That she had been cleaning her new residence 385 00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:05,109 With her daughter, johnetta hall. 386 00:19:05,177 --> 00:19:06,777 She indicated that ms. Hall left the residence 387 00:19:06,846 --> 00:19:08,946 Around two o'clock to go get some groceries 388 00:19:09,014 --> 00:19:10,014 In madison, indiana. 389 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:14,151 [chris] dalene was asked if she would provide her cell phone, 390 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:15,686 Because in that cell phone, 391 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:17,721 We can tell her gps location-- 392 00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:19,757 You know, where she was at at the time of the crime. 393 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,158 She expressed that she had nothing to hide 394 00:19:21,227 --> 00:19:22,660 In this investigation 395 00:19:22,728 --> 00:19:24,061 And she was willing to give her phone up. 396 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:28,966 [narrator] dalene remains a suspect, 397 00:19:29,034 --> 00:19:32,837 But there's still someone else police want to talk to. 398 00:19:33,773 --> 00:19:35,873 I needed to make contact with johnetta 399 00:19:35,942 --> 00:19:39,177 To determine her whereabouts and any involvement, if any. 400 00:19:39,245 --> 00:19:42,446 Chief deputy don campbell made me aware of 401 00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:46,717 Some recent police involvement with johnetta hall. 402 00:19:47,954 --> 00:19:49,653 The police had been called out there a couple times 403 00:19:49,722 --> 00:19:51,822 For harassment calls or things of that nature. 404 00:19:52,925 --> 00:19:54,992 He said johnetta was tough to deal with. 405 00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:58,563 We're still left with questions, a lot of questions. 406 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:04,902 [theme music] 407 00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:16,314 [theme music] [narrator] after their interview with dalene cates, 408 00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:18,649 Investigators follow up on her alibi 409 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:22,553 Involving her daughter, johnetta hall. 410 00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:26,757 You have to work looking at every avenue, at every lead. 411 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,360 You cannot leave anything unturned. 412 00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:32,263 [jeremy] it was decided that I was going to 413 00:20:32,331 --> 00:20:33,797 Try to reach out to johnetta hall. 414 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:36,533 I was, I actually obtained her phone number 415 00:20:36,535 --> 00:20:40,171 Through our dispatch, uh, from recent calls of service. 416 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:43,608 I placed a phone call to johnetta and she didn't answer. 417 00:20:44,443 --> 00:20:45,476 I left a voicemail and explained 418 00:20:45,544 --> 00:20:47,778 That I was an investigator with the sheriff's office 419 00:20:47,847 --> 00:20:49,280 And that I needed to speak with her 420 00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:50,748 In reference to an investigation. 421 00:20:52,818 --> 00:20:56,820 [narrator] a few hours later, johnetta shows up in person. 422 00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:58,522 [jeremy] around 8 pm the night of the murder, 423 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,424 Johnetta arrived at the sheriff's office, 424 00:21:00,492 --> 00:21:01,792 And we conducted an interview with her. 425 00:21:15,207 --> 00:21:18,442 She did not ask, you know, "oh my gosh, what happened?" 426 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:21,412 That was a red flag for us in this investigation. 427 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:55,245 [jeremy] when confronted with the fact 428 00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:56,714 That she was not concerned, 429 00:21:56,782 --> 00:21:58,615 Her explanation was that it wouldn't surprise her 430 00:21:58,684 --> 00:21:59,983 If someone had killed him 431 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:02,720 Because that's just the way he had been dealing with people. 432 00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:18,469 [jeremy] she had explained that there used to be 433 00:22:18,537 --> 00:22:20,737 A great relationship between dalene and bill. 434 00:22:20,806 --> 00:22:24,074 She blamed the change and things on cancer 435 00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:26,209 And that, uh, after the treatments, 436 00:22:26,211 --> 00:22:27,878 That it changed his personality. 437 00:22:27,946 --> 00:22:29,713 He became a vindictive individual 438 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:32,183 And he was, uh, very rude and hard to deal with. 439 00:22:35,387 --> 00:22:39,089 [don] I could tell that johnetta did not like bill reynolds. 440 00:22:39,158 --> 00:22:42,993 It was, like, almost personal based on just her, her demeanor. 441 00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,496 [narrator] johnetta's behavior shifts her 442 00:22:45,564 --> 00:22:50,133 From being an alibi witness to a potential suspect. 443 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:52,202 [jeremy] she was asked the same questions dalene was asked. 444 00:22:52,204 --> 00:22:54,171 Tell us a little bit about your day, how your day's went, 445 00:22:54,239 --> 00:22:55,506 Where you been. 446 00:22:55,574 --> 00:22:56,707 Um, we're tryin' to establish a baseline. 447 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:15,158 [chris] johnetta hall tells law enforcement 448 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,094 That she had been helping her mother clean 449 00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:18,796 At the new residence, 450 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:20,630 But that she had left the residence 451 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:23,601 To take a rug to a storage unit. 452 00:23:23,603 --> 00:23:26,837 She also says that after leaving the storage unit, 453 00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:30,974 That she went to the circle k in austin, indiana to buy bread. 454 00:23:31,043 --> 00:23:33,343 After leaving the circle k, she headed north, 455 00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:35,913 And headed through the muscatatuck wildlife preserve. 456 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,459 [jeremy] that stuck out as odd to me, you know. 457 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:50,861 Uh, it was an odd statement. 458 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,163 Why are you tryin' to get lost? 459 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:12,850 [narrator] there was nobody to corroborate or verify 460 00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:16,019 Where she was at when she claimed she was at these places. 461 00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:17,354 So, with there not being' a witness, 462 00:24:17,422 --> 00:24:18,756 We ask her for any evidence. 463 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:26,096 [chris] and she was eager to produce that receipt 464 00:24:26,165 --> 00:24:28,599 To law enforcement to show where she had been 465 00:24:28,601 --> 00:24:30,534 At the circle k, buying the bread. 466 00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,537 [jeremy] she provided us with her cellular device 467 00:24:33,605 --> 00:24:34,972 And her password to google 468 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,907 And gave us permission to explore that. 469 00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:39,743 And in doing so, we were able to, um, 470 00:24:39,812 --> 00:24:42,012 Extract gps coordinates locations 471 00:24:42,081 --> 00:24:44,481 From a certain time frame before the murder, 472 00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:45,783 After the murder, during the murder. 473 00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:48,118 [narrator] to their surprise, 474 00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:51,722 Investigators find out johnetta's telling the truth. 475 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,157 [jeremy] with her statement that 476 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:56,493 She was all up in the wildlife refuge, 477 00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:58,128 We were able to find those points 478 00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:00,231 And show that she indeed was up there driving around. 479 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,034 Officers were able to search johnetta hall's vehicle 480 00:25:04,103 --> 00:25:08,038 And once again, they came up with no evidence. 481 00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:11,808 It was kind of like a, a kick in the teeth. 482 00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:13,244 It kind of set us back. 483 00:25:17,282 --> 00:25:19,149 [chris] at the end of the initial interview 484 00:25:19,218 --> 00:25:22,920 Of johnetta hall, detectives let her leave the sheriff's office. 485 00:25:22,988 --> 00:25:25,022 And although she was free to go, 486 00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:26,590 Officers seemed to have some suspicions 487 00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:29,560 And didn't feel comfortable with the way that had gone. 488 00:25:29,628 --> 00:25:31,061 So, they wanted to make sure they did 489 00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:33,163 Some additional follow up to what they had learned. 490 00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:37,934 [narrator] police talked to dalene's neighbors, 491 00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:39,937 Who support her alibi. 492 00:25:41,106 --> 00:25:43,873 It was confirmed that dalene had been at her residence 493 00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:46,209 Or on that property for all of the day, 494 00:25:46,278 --> 00:25:48,745 Had helped the neighbors clean some cabinets, 495 00:25:48,814 --> 00:25:51,181 And according to the neighbors, she had not left. 496 00:25:52,117 --> 00:25:55,185 Detectives ask them if dalene or johnetta 497 00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:58,355 Had asked them to lie for them about their whereabouts 498 00:25:58,423 --> 00:26:00,123 On the day of the murder. 499 00:26:00,192 --> 00:26:03,060 They stated that they did not. 500 00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:09,900 [narrator] investigators still feel like 501 00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:13,370 The women aren't telling them the whole story. 502 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,340 [jeremy] it just didn't feel like 503 00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:17,641 She was answering or questions truthfully 504 00:26:17,709 --> 00:26:20,310 Or, or, or wholly, I should say. 505 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:23,847 Because of the history, the family history, that, uh... 506 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,215 Raised the hair on the back of your neck 507 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:27,184 That you might be on the right path, 508 00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:29,252 There are some red flags that need to be followed up on 509 00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:30,688 In this investigation. 510 00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:33,991 [narrator] coming up: 511 00:26:34,059 --> 00:26:38,261 A suspect's cover story comes under scrutiny. 512 00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:39,063 Why did she lie? 513 00:26:39,131 --> 00:26:41,131 Why did she say she was there by herself? 514 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,034 [narrator] and a murder plot unfolds. 515 00:26:45,036 --> 00:26:47,337 He called him and said, "can you pick me up at my apartment? 516 00:26:47,406 --> 00:26:49,272 Um, I got a job to do." 517 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:51,041 And he knew then that they were going to kill somebody. 518 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,009 [gunshot] 519 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:57,081 [theme music] 520 00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:08,525 [narrator] with dalene and her daughter johnetta's whereabouts 521 00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:10,360 Both accounted for, 522 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:12,429 It seems neither woman could have been 523 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:15,666 Bill reynolds' shooter. 524 00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:18,501 But since they both have strong motives, 525 00:27:18,571 --> 00:27:22,206 Investigators still believe they might have been involved. 526 00:27:23,575 --> 00:27:25,008 [jeremy] sometimes people responsible for murder 527 00:27:25,076 --> 00:27:26,910 Don't actually carry out the act. 528 00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:29,913 They're responsible for potentially planning it, 529 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,848 Potentially aiding and assisting in the murder 530 00:27:31,917 --> 00:27:33,750 By providing a murder weapon. 531 00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:35,018 There's a whole list of things 532 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:36,553 That can include someone in a crime 533 00:27:36,622 --> 00:27:39,323 That can't be ruled out just by, uh, a location alibi. 534 00:27:42,427 --> 00:27:44,061 The next morning, an autopsy was performed 535 00:27:44,129 --> 00:27:46,229 On bill reynolds sr. 536 00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:47,698 There was a partial projectile 537 00:27:47,766 --> 00:27:51,201 That was recovered in the .38-caliber range. 538 00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,536 [chris] dalene indicated that she had a .38 revolver, 539 00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:55,305 But she did not know where that gun was located. 540 00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:58,275 [narrator] detectives wonder if johnetta 541 00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:01,078 Might have had a reason to move the weapon. 542 00:28:05,984 --> 00:28:07,751 [jeremy] we was able to obtain the surveillance footage 543 00:28:07,819 --> 00:28:09,552 From the storage express facility 544 00:28:09,554 --> 00:28:12,823 That johnetta had said that she had placed a rug in, 545 00:28:12,891 --> 00:28:14,792 And also from the circle k gas station 546 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:17,294 Where she provided us with the receipt. 547 00:28:19,331 --> 00:28:21,498 [chris] upon obtaining the surveillance videos, 548 00:28:21,567 --> 00:28:24,101 It was learned that johnetta hall was, in fact, 549 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:26,336 At the storage express in austin, indiana 550 00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:28,605 And at the circle k around the same timeframe. 551 00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:32,976 [narrator] but despite her previous claims of solitude, 552 00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:36,046 Johnetta was not alone. 553 00:28:36,114 --> 00:28:38,248 [chris] the detectives noticed that johnetta hall 554 00:28:38,317 --> 00:28:42,485 Was with two male individuals at both places. 555 00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:44,321 And why did she say she was there by herself? 556 00:28:47,526 --> 00:28:49,926 [jeremy] with the circle k surveillance footage, 557 00:28:49,995 --> 00:28:51,295 You could see individuals, 558 00:28:51,363 --> 00:28:53,130 But you couldn't really see facial features. 559 00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:55,298 But we were able to get a license plate, 560 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,134 A picture of the license plate, on the vehicle 561 00:28:57,202 --> 00:28:59,169 From the storage express' camera. 562 00:29:00,605 --> 00:29:02,473 [chris] officers were able to run that plate. 563 00:29:02,541 --> 00:29:04,241 It was a temporary plate 564 00:29:04,309 --> 00:29:06,143 That was traced back to a male individual 565 00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:08,078 By the name of jacob mathis. 566 00:29:11,216 --> 00:29:13,483 None of our local law enforcement knew who they were. 567 00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:15,452 It was important that investigators find out 568 00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:16,620 Who jacob mathis is. 569 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,223 [jeremy] we were provided with a possible apartment 570 00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:22,025 That he was staying at in clarksville, indiana. 571 00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:25,562 [narrator] on September 28th, 572 00:29:25,631 --> 00:29:27,464 The day after the murder, 573 00:29:27,533 --> 00:29:29,266 Police locate jacob, 574 00:29:29,334 --> 00:29:31,969 And he agrees to come in for an interview. 575 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:34,838 [jeremy] mathis, when asked, "do you know why you're here?" 576 00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:38,041 Said, "I have a feeling that something bad has happened." 577 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:43,480 They knew then that they might have someone in front of them 578 00:29:43,548 --> 00:29:44,882 That has knowledge of this murder. 579 00:29:45,751 --> 00:29:47,350 They began explaining to jacob 580 00:29:47,352 --> 00:29:50,553 That they were conducting a death investigation. 581 00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:53,990 And jacob openly admitted that he, um, 582 00:29:54,059 --> 00:29:55,359 Had went to scott county. 583 00:29:57,262 --> 00:29:59,529 [chris] the day of the murder, September 27th, 584 00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:02,065 He indicates that he and one of his roommates 585 00:30:02,067 --> 00:30:05,935 Met a lady named johnetta at a storage facility 586 00:30:06,005 --> 00:30:08,771 And obtained some nascar memorabilia. 587 00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:11,942 He said that he and his roommate was going to start a business 588 00:30:12,010 --> 00:30:13,777 Where that they would sell nascar memorabilia 589 00:30:13,845 --> 00:30:16,413 Or other items on the internet. 590 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:20,651 [narrator] although he freely admits 591 00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,585 His connection to johnetta, 592 00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:25,088 Jacob denies that he or his roommate 593 00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:26,990 Had any further involvement. 594 00:30:28,026 --> 00:30:30,126 There are certain people he will give names to, 595 00:30:30,195 --> 00:30:32,329 But certain individuals he won't say their name. 596 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,799 [narrator] but after hours of questioning, 597 00:30:35,867 --> 00:30:39,702 The pressure begins to take its toll. 598 00:30:39,772 --> 00:30:42,105 [chris] he accidentally lets the name of his roommate, 599 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:46,209 Kerry heald, slip, uh, during conversation. 600 00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:49,112 They're also able to determine that johnetta hall 601 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,983 Is the mother of his roommate's girlfriend, amaris. 602 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,853 They finally confront him and ask, you know, 603 00:30:56,921 --> 00:30:58,455 About him being in scott county 604 00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:00,490 And if he was at the residence of bill reynolds. 605 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:04,795 [narrator] at that point, jacob breaks down 606 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,197 And confesses to everything. 607 00:31:10,168 --> 00:31:12,202 He stated that heald called him and said, 608 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:13,604 "can you pick me up at my apartment? 609 00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:15,372 Um, I got a job to do." 610 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,007 And jacob stated that he knew then 611 00:31:17,075 --> 00:31:18,408 They were going to kill somebody. 612 00:31:21,246 --> 00:31:23,513 They drove about thirty to forty-five minutes 613 00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:27,017 To a rural area, kerry backed the car up, kind of blocking, 614 00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:28,985 He reported, the driveway and the fence. 615 00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:30,687 He reported seeing that. 616 00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:33,122 And, uh, jacob stated that kerry shot bill reynolds 617 00:31:33,124 --> 00:31:34,857 In the driveway. 618 00:31:34,859 --> 00:31:36,093 [gunshot] 619 00:31:38,163 --> 00:31:39,462 [jeremy] and when they got back in the car, 620 00:31:39,865 --> 00:31:43,533 Kerry handed, uh, jacob the gun and said, "wipe that off." 621 00:31:45,404 --> 00:31:47,204 He says that he takes a shirt 622 00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:50,106 Or some kind of cloth material from his vehicle 623 00:31:50,175 --> 00:31:52,309 And wipes off the revolver, 624 00:31:52,377 --> 00:31:54,777 Sticking it, I believe, in the passenger's side floorboard 625 00:31:54,779 --> 00:31:56,113 Of his vehicle. 626 00:31:57,382 --> 00:31:59,082 [jeremy] at that point in time, 627 00:31:59,150 --> 00:32:01,018 Jacob just became involved in a murder. 628 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:07,057 [chris] he further indicated to police 629 00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:10,026 That he had been involved with some meetings 630 00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:12,895 Regarding the killing of the individual 631 00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,397 Between johnetta hall, 632 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,433 Amaris bunyard, and kerry heald. 633 00:32:18,037 --> 00:32:20,537 He told detectives that kerry heald 634 00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:21,872 Had been hired by johnetta hall 635 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:24,174 Because he was a trained assassin, 636 00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:27,911 And that jacob mathis was a master body disposal expert. 637 00:32:28,814 --> 00:32:31,914 Officers did reach out to the homicide division 638 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,216 From louisville, kentucky, 639 00:32:33,218 --> 00:32:35,452 And nothing ever came of that, 640 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,554 And there's no reason to believe that, that any of that 641 00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:38,622 Was actually true. 642 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,159 [narrator] based on his statement, 643 00:32:43,228 --> 00:32:46,596 Jacob is arrested for murder. 644 00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:50,500 And investigators pick up the alleged shooter, kerry heald, 645 00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:51,668 For questioning. 646 00:32:52,905 --> 00:32:55,238 Heald initially stated that he was not in scott county 647 00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:58,108 On September 27th, 2015, at all. 648 00:32:58,176 --> 00:32:59,576 We quickly confronted him. 649 00:33:19,531 --> 00:33:23,266 [jeremy] he initially pointed to mathis as the shooter, 650 00:33:23,268 --> 00:33:24,867 But the further the interview progressed, 651 00:33:24,937 --> 00:33:29,406 We started pointing out some inconsistencies with his story 652 00:33:29,474 --> 00:33:31,708 And used some information from mathis' interview against him, 653 00:33:31,777 --> 00:33:34,611 And, and he initially, um, turned around and confessed. 654 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:39,282 He stated that they, that he did kill bill reynolds, 655 00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:41,884 That him and mathis were hired by johnetta hall 656 00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:43,620 To carry out this murder, 657 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,223 And that johnetta hall provided them with the weapon to use. 658 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,760 And the agreement was that she was to be given the weapon back 659 00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:52,396 And then, then she would dispose of it. 660 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:16,486 He took nascar memorabilia as payment for this crime. 661 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,090 [chris] kerry heald indicated that, at first, 662 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,460 He did not want to commit this murder, 663 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:26,329 But that johnetta hall had continued to tell him things 664 00:34:26,331 --> 00:34:29,933 About bill reynolds to finally goad him into 665 00:34:30,001 --> 00:34:31,868 Accepting this offer. 666 00:34:31,936 --> 00:34:33,970 The straw that broke the camel's back was 667 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:35,305 She had indicated that bill reynolds 668 00:34:35,373 --> 00:34:38,675 Had been sexually assaulting amaris bunyard. 669 00:34:48,787 --> 00:34:51,321 [narrator] investigators immediately place kerry 670 00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:53,523 Under arrest. 671 00:34:56,962 --> 00:34:58,895 Kerry ray heald is my son. 672 00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:01,598 It made no sense to me 673 00:35:01,666 --> 00:35:06,303 That, um, kerry ray would ever do anything like that. 674 00:35:07,372 --> 00:35:09,472 On the news, they-- kerry ray's mugshot 675 00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:11,274 Is right there on the tv 676 00:35:11,342 --> 00:35:14,311 And that he was arrested in um, a murder. 677 00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:18,180 That's how I definitely found out about it. 678 00:35:18,182 --> 00:35:20,217 I didn't believe for a second that he had done it. 679 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:27,256 [narrator] now detectives set their sights 680 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,993 On the remaining co-conspirators. 681 00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:33,330 The next step in this investigation 682 00:35:33,398 --> 00:35:35,765 Is going to be to interview amaris bunyard 683 00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:38,902 And re-interview and potentially arrest johnetta hall 684 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:40,470 For the murder of bill reynolds. 685 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:47,911 [theme music] 686 00:35:56,421 --> 00:35:57,754 Heme music] [narrator] armed with jacob mathis 687 00:35:57,822 --> 00:36:00,356 And kerry heald's confessions, 688 00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:03,225 Indiana police bring johnetta hall in 689 00:36:03,227 --> 00:36:05,562 For another round of questioning. 690 00:36:06,631 --> 00:36:07,764 [chris] at this point in the investigation, 691 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:10,767 We had the statements, her being that johnetta hall 692 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:15,004 Had hired kerry heald to commit the murder, 693 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,273 And the things that had been offered to him as payment. 694 00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:18,641 When confronted with these things, 695 00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:20,510 She decided that she didn't want to speak, 696 00:36:20,578 --> 00:36:22,712 That she wanted to exercise her right to an attorney, 697 00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:24,380 And she was placed under arrest by 698 00:36:24,449 --> 00:36:25,582 The scott county sheriff's office. 699 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:31,321 [narrator] johnetta's daughter, amaris, is more forthcoming. 700 00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:34,490 [jeremy] so, on September 29th, 2015, 701 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:36,259 A detective with the state police and myself 702 00:36:36,327 --> 00:36:37,694 Interview amaris bunyard. 703 00:36:38,496 --> 00:36:42,432 In my gut, the minute I saw them, I said I knew. 704 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,567 I knew I wouldn't be going home that night. 705 00:36:45,570 --> 00:36:48,805 I was still very freaked out over the whole situation. 706 00:36:49,908 --> 00:36:51,908 [jeremy] she stated that, that she was present 707 00:36:51,976 --> 00:36:53,910 For several meetings, 708 00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:57,147 And that they all were involved in conversations and planning 709 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:58,481 On murdering bill reynolds. 710 00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:03,820 [chris] she further indicated 711 00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:06,088 That during the move of dalene cates, 712 00:37:06,158 --> 00:37:08,625 Johnetta hall took a handgun, 713 00:37:08,693 --> 00:37:11,761 Slid it into the purse of amaris bunyard, 714 00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:13,696 And told her to conceal it 715 00:37:13,698 --> 00:37:15,231 So that dalene cates did not see it 716 00:37:15,299 --> 00:37:17,400 Being removed from the residence 717 00:37:17,468 --> 00:37:19,502 And to go out and give it to kerry heald. 718 00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:22,739 Johnetta kept saying things like, 719 00:37:22,807 --> 00:37:26,376 "we don't want dalene to do something stupid." 720 00:37:26,444 --> 00:37:29,846 So, we snuck all of these weapons out of the house. 721 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,015 I never thought in a million years 722 00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:36,519 That kerry would actually do anything. 723 00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:41,958 Who really accepts to kill somebody for nascar? 724 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,793 In my mind, that's just not a thing. 725 00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:46,396 [narrator] but a few weeks later, 726 00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:48,665 He proved amaris wrong. 727 00:37:50,568 --> 00:37:52,369 [amaris] kerry told me while we were in the car, 728 00:37:53,504 --> 00:37:54,904 He said, he said, 729 00:37:54,973 --> 00:37:58,808 "I just came back from killing your grandfather." 730 00:37:58,877 --> 00:38:01,911 He said, "I walked right up to him 731 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:04,648 And I put the pistol between his eyes and pulled the trigger." 732 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,420 They left him the driveway. 733 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:12,822 Just left him there. 734 00:38:17,028 --> 00:38:20,430 [narrator] amaris's statement implicates her in the murder, 735 00:38:20,498 --> 00:38:23,867 But also confirms dalene was not involved. 736 00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:28,137 After only two days of investigation, 737 00:38:28,139 --> 00:38:31,507 Three of the four suspects in bill reynolds' murder 738 00:38:31,509 --> 00:38:32,842 Are now in custody. 739 00:38:33,678 --> 00:38:36,646 In February of 2016, 740 00:38:36,714 --> 00:38:41,084 Amaris bunyard joins her co-conspirators behind bars. 741 00:38:44,523 --> 00:38:46,889 It was important that we get, in my opinion, 742 00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:48,791 The two biggest players, which were 743 00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:50,627 Johnetta hall and kerry heald. 744 00:38:50,695 --> 00:38:52,094 Kerry heald being the shooter 745 00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,797 And johnetta hall being the mastermind. 746 00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:56,866 To do that, we needed the cooperation 747 00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:58,601 Of the other people involved. 748 00:39:02,106 --> 00:39:05,341 [narrator] rather than face a jury, kerry pleads guilty 749 00:39:05,409 --> 00:39:08,545 In exchange for his cooperation with authorities. 750 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,449 Amaris and jacob take similar deals. 751 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:19,989 In September 2020, johnetta's trial begins. 752 00:39:21,726 --> 00:39:23,325 [chris] in the prosecution of this case, 753 00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:24,494 We had a lot of evidence, 754 00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:27,097 But one key piece of evidence that we never ended up with 755 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:28,698 Was the murder weapon. 756 00:39:29,734 --> 00:39:31,267 [narrator] although the prosecution's case 757 00:39:31,336 --> 00:39:33,669 Is largely circumstantial, 758 00:39:33,738 --> 00:39:36,940 They believe the motives speak for themselves. 759 00:39:38,509 --> 00:39:40,643 [don] johnetta hall committed this crime 760 00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:42,444 Because she thought that her mother 761 00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:43,913 Was getting out of a relationship 762 00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:45,715 And not going to get anything. 763 00:39:46,951 --> 00:39:49,051 [jeremy] she was extremely upset that she did not get her way 764 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,755 And that bill won and was able to relinquish the property back. 765 00:39:56,161 --> 00:39:57,760 [chris] I think the motive for amaris bunyard 766 00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:58,995 To be involved in this 767 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:00,964 Was approval and love from her mother. 768 00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:05,134 [amaris] I knew what type of person johnetta was. 769 00:40:05,203 --> 00:40:07,870 I never honestly took this situation seriously 770 00:40:07,872 --> 00:40:10,673 Until after the fact it had happened. 771 00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:12,575 And I didn't do anything. 772 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,012 I'm a coward for that. 773 00:40:18,116 --> 00:40:19,916 [chris] kerry heald's motive to conduct this murder 774 00:40:19,984 --> 00:40:21,818 Was financial gain for him 775 00:40:21,886 --> 00:40:24,521 From the things that had been promised him by johnetta hall. 776 00:40:26,724 --> 00:40:29,158 [jeremy] I would label jacob mathis as a follower. 777 00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:31,560 Heald showed him attention that I think that he needed, 778 00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:33,029 And I think he would've followed kerry heald 779 00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:35,064 Into the gates of hell if he'd led him. 780 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:39,235 [narrator] the defense argues 781 00:40:39,304 --> 00:40:41,171 There is nothing to connect to johnetta 782 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,772 To bill reynolds' murder 783 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,209 Other than the word of his confessed killers. 784 00:40:47,479 --> 00:40:49,245 But the jury doesn't agree. 785 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:52,715 After a, a trial that lasted almost two weeks, 786 00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:55,684 Johnetta hall was found guilty of murder 787 00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:57,419 And conspiracy to commit murder, 788 00:40:57,489 --> 00:40:58,788 Was given life without parole. 789 00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:04,593 [jeremy] I don't think it took too much for johnetta to snap, 790 00:41:04,663 --> 00:41:05,661 Because in my opinion, 791 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:09,299 Johnetta is a monstrous, vile, and evil human being. 792 00:41:10,501 --> 00:41:12,402 [don] she manipulated those kids. 793 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:17,373 She used them to do something that she couldn't do herself. 794 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:22,745 I kept pushing kerry, wanting him to tell me everything. 795 00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:24,013 What would she have ever said you to, 796 00:41:24,082 --> 00:41:25,347 To make you want to do this? 797 00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:29,819 And he said, "she painted such a picture of such a monster." 798 00:41:30,755 --> 00:41:32,856 And that's what he, you know, fell for. 799 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,693 [chris] johnetta hall had convinced him 800 00:41:37,762 --> 00:41:40,963 To go through with this by telling him stories 801 00:41:41,032 --> 00:41:43,633 About how mr. Reynolds had been abusive to her 802 00:41:43,701 --> 00:41:45,234 And other family members. 803 00:41:45,303 --> 00:41:47,770 However, with follow-up investigation, 804 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:49,339 Law enforcement was able to determine 805 00:41:49,407 --> 00:41:50,973 That that was not accurate, 806 00:41:50,975 --> 00:41:53,009 And that had not been occurring. 807 00:41:53,744 --> 00:41:55,912 [valeri] she took my son's life, too. 808 00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:58,348 She took him. She took him away. 809 00:42:03,287 --> 00:42:05,922 [narrator] johnetta had been willing to say anything-- 810 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:07,990 And sacrifice anyone-- 811 00:42:08,059 --> 00:42:09,992 To get what she wanted, 812 00:42:10,061 --> 00:42:13,129 Including her own daughter. 813 00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:16,766 I didn't think that I would be arrested. 814 00:42:16,834 --> 00:42:19,068 While in county jail after I was arrested, 815 00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:21,671 I did make contact with johnetta 816 00:42:21,739 --> 00:42:25,007 In an attempt to find out why things had happened 817 00:42:25,076 --> 00:42:26,709 The way they had happened 818 00:42:26,778 --> 00:42:29,379 And why she was saying the things she was saying. 819 00:42:30,482 --> 00:42:32,315 It made no sense to me. 820 00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:35,051 [narrator] and amaris pays the price. 821 00:42:40,891 --> 00:42:44,693 I eventually signed a plea deal for 30 years, 822 00:42:44,763 --> 00:42:46,762 Suspend 10 of them, 823 00:42:46,831 --> 00:42:50,300 Do 20, with a 75 percent time. 824 00:42:50,368 --> 00:42:53,169 So, when all said and done, 825 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:57,106 Once I am released, I will do 15 years. 826 00:42:57,175 --> 00:42:58,374 If I could turn everything around, 827 00:42:58,442 --> 00:43:01,277 If I could change what I did and didn't do, I would. 828 00:43:01,346 --> 00:43:02,478 I hate myself every day 829 00:43:02,547 --> 00:43:05,682 For not being there for the one person who did love me. 830 00:43:08,452 --> 00:43:10,186 [henry] even though myself and my family 831 00:43:10,254 --> 00:43:11,854 Were very satisfied with johnetta 832 00:43:11,923 --> 00:43:13,722 Getting life without parole, 833 00:43:13,724 --> 00:43:15,891 There's still that void there. 834 00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:18,127 [william] it still ain't right behind me. 835 00:43:18,129 --> 00:43:20,096 I'm still dealing with it every day. 836 00:43:20,164 --> 00:43:24,066 Like, I go down and put a new flag on my dad's graveyard. 837 00:43:24,135 --> 00:43:26,602 He was a vietnam hero, and he took care of me and my brother, 838 00:43:26,671 --> 00:43:28,271 And he'd just want to be remembered. 839 00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:43,720 [music]