1 00:00:14,740 --> 00:00:16,473 Man: There was a time when we were a normal family. 2 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:20,019 Say bye. 3 00:00:20,170 --> 00:00:21,520 Baby's hungry. 4 00:00:21,747 --> 00:00:22,521 Those days are over. 5 00:00:26,602 --> 00:00:31,030 [music playing] 6 00:00:31,181 --> 00:00:35,183 Christine, her boyfriend, chantal, and my other two boys 7 00:00:35,202 --> 00:00:37,611 Jordan and joey, all live together 8 00:00:37,763 --> 00:00:39,872 In a small studio apartment. 9 00:00:40,023 --> 00:00:41,932 My family is pretty tight-knit, 10 00:00:42,025 --> 00:00:43,784 But everybody who lives in the apartment 11 00:00:43,878 --> 00:00:44,935 Is addicted to fentanyl. 12 00:00:44,953 --> 00:00:46,937 [music playing] 13 00:00:46,955 --> 00:00:50,365 I shoot up five or six times a day. 14 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:52,200 [growls] 15 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:54,945 Fentanyl has just absolutely destroyed our family. 16 00:00:55,038 --> 00:00:56,630 The parents using drugs with their child 17 00:00:56,782 --> 00:00:58,465 Is kind of shocking. 18 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:01,560 Chantal has overdosed more times than I can remember. 19 00:01:01,711 --> 00:01:04,563 The last time she was unresponsive for five days. 20 00:01:04,714 --> 00:01:07,791 And I know it's because she's away from her son. 21 00:01:07,884 --> 00:01:09,902 I've chosen drugs over my son. 22 00:01:12,389 --> 00:01:14,239 One day, joey and chantal od'd. 23 00:01:15,301 --> 00:01:15,908 Joey: Joey. 24 00:01:17,469 --> 00:01:18,985 Joey: Yeah. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,972 And I was going to two hospitals for two of my kids 26 00:01:22,065 --> 00:01:24,065 That I didn't know if they were alive. 27 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,418 Don't make me scared to be around you. 28 00:01:29,406 --> 00:01:32,149 We have six people to intervene on, 29 00:01:32,242 --> 00:01:34,093 But if we don't get this family help 30 00:01:34,244 --> 00:01:36,077 They're all going to end up dying. 31 00:01:36,171 --> 00:01:40,265 Every single day you're nursing your loved ones to death. 32 00:01:40,492 --> 00:01:43,343 This is the largest intervention I've ever done. 33 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:46,346 You'll have a chance at a new life with your son in it. 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,273 But you need to say yes. 35 00:01:48,425 --> 00:01:51,017 All it will take is one to say no, 36 00:01:51,112 --> 00:01:56,115 And it could sabotage the whole intervention. 37 00:01:56,342 --> 00:01:58,191 [inaudible] 38 00:01:58,285 --> 00:02:01,620 [music playing] 39 00:02:20,532 --> 00:02:24,050 I just wanna dance. 40 00:02:24,203 --> 00:02:25,886 My name is chantal. 41 00:02:26,038 --> 00:02:31,875 I'm 33 years old, and I live in garden grove, california. 42 00:02:31,968 --> 00:02:34,135 Garden grove is right next door 43 00:02:34,229 --> 00:02:36,638 To anaheim where disneyland is. 44 00:02:36,732 --> 00:02:38,973 The happiest place on earth. 45 00:02:39,067 --> 00:02:43,144 The weather's always perfect, and it's just-- it's just home. 46 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:44,812 There she is. 47 00:02:44,832 --> 00:02:45,813 You look kind of cute. 48 00:02:45,833 --> 00:02:47,724 My mom's wearing a pink shirt. 49 00:02:47,743 --> 00:02:50,727 Chantal is very loving, very giving, 50 00:02:50,820 --> 00:02:53,338 And she loves her family very much. 51 00:02:53,490 --> 00:02:54,564 Look at the ducks. 52 00:02:54,583 --> 00:02:55,340 There's four now. 53 00:02:55,567 --> 00:02:56,824 How excited you get. 54 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:58,585 I know, it's-- 55 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:02,923 Chantal is also the best big sister to her brothers. 56 00:03:03,075 --> 00:03:05,184 She's like a mother to them. 57 00:03:05,411 --> 00:03:07,168 I've always dreamt of being a mother, 58 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:09,763 And I played a big role with helping 59 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:11,148 My mom with my brothers. 60 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:17,696 Chantal is genuine and down to earth, 61 00:03:17,847 --> 00:03:20,273 But right now, my daughter chantal 62 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:23,702 Is addicted to fentanyl. 63 00:03:23,929 --> 00:03:25,946 I never thought I would like needles, 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,282 But I'm in love with it. 65 00:03:29,435 --> 00:03:30,600 Perfect, on the dot. 66 00:03:30,619 --> 00:03:31,785 Ok. 67 00:03:31,937 --> 00:03:36,030 I shoot up five or six times a day. 68 00:03:36,124 --> 00:03:39,609 And on most days, I use about a half gram of fentanyl. 69 00:03:39,628 --> 00:03:43,055 [music playing] 70 00:03:52,233 --> 00:03:56,718 I inject mainly through my muscle. 71 00:03:56,812 --> 00:04:01,965 It's so much quicker, and-- and it keeps me well a lot longer. 72 00:04:02,058 --> 00:04:05,652 Yeah, I lost my train of thought there. 73 00:04:05,804 --> 00:04:08,488 When chantal uses fentanyl, it's 74 00:04:08,582 --> 00:04:11,917 Not more than a few minutes until she's in her own world. 75 00:04:12,144 --> 00:04:15,328 [growls] 76 00:04:15,481 --> 00:04:19,574 It's terrifying that she puts enough fentanyl in herself 77 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:23,503 To kill 10 people daily. 78 00:04:23,597 --> 00:04:28,767 I'm also addicted to methamphetamine and xanax. 79 00:04:28,918 --> 00:04:34,831 I smoke about a half gram to a gram of meth a day. 80 00:04:34,850 --> 00:04:38,852 [music playing] 81 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:42,781 I'm going to scope the parking lot for any receipts. 82 00:04:43,008 --> 00:04:48,345 I pay for my drugs mainly through receipt shopping. 83 00:04:48,363 --> 00:04:51,348 I usually start with the perimeters, 84 00:04:51,366 --> 00:04:57,612 And then return items to the stores that I technically 85 00:04:57,706 --> 00:05:00,114 Didn't purchase myself. 86 00:05:00,208 --> 00:05:03,043 Dang, it's a empty night. 87 00:05:03,195 --> 00:05:05,862 Chantal has changed physically, 88 00:05:05,881 --> 00:05:11,292 Emotionally, spiritually, mentally since her drug use. 89 00:05:11,312 --> 00:05:13,795 Over the years, we've seen missing teeth, 90 00:05:13,889 --> 00:05:16,039 Thinning hair, swollen eyes. 91 00:05:16,058 --> 00:05:20,226 Like there's no life-- there's no life there at all. 92 00:05:20,321 --> 00:05:24,639 Chantal has an overdosed more times than I can remember. 93 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:29,719 I have overdosed on fentanyl three or four times. 94 00:05:29,813 --> 00:05:31,888 When chantal recently overdosed, 95 00:05:31,981 --> 00:05:34,649 She was unresponsive for five days. 96 00:05:34,668 --> 00:05:36,317 We thought she was not going to come back. 97 00:05:36,411 --> 00:05:39,396 [music playing] 98 00:05:39,414 --> 00:05:42,490 If chantal doesn't stop using she will die. 99 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:44,325 I'll just stick it right here. 100 00:05:44,345 --> 00:05:46,736 We should have already lost her three times this year. 101 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:49,473 The next time I don't believe she'll make it. 102 00:05:52,853 --> 00:05:55,745 [music playing] 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,598 I think chantal is using the drugs 104 00:05:58,692 --> 00:06:02,176 To numb her upbringing, the things that she's had to live 105 00:06:02,196 --> 00:06:03,103 Through with her family. 106 00:06:03,197 --> 00:06:06,198 [music playing] 107 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:11,370 Christine and I were high school sweethearts, 108 00:06:11,521 --> 00:06:14,206 And when we found out christine was pregnant, 109 00:06:14,433 --> 00:06:16,691 I told her, ok, well, let's get married, 110 00:06:16,785 --> 00:06:19,269 And I hope it's a girl. 111 00:06:19,362 --> 00:06:22,381 I was 18 years old when I had chantal, 112 00:06:22,608 --> 00:06:24,774 And when I held my daughter for the first time, 113 00:06:24,793 --> 00:06:26,292 She just mesmerized me. 114 00:06:26,387 --> 00:06:28,612 [music playing] 115 00:06:28,630 --> 00:06:31,464 When she was little, she looked like a little mariah carey. 116 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:34,134 Just so cute. 117 00:06:34,228 --> 00:06:36,453 It was just great times. 118 00:06:36,471 --> 00:06:39,380 I even started my own roofing company 119 00:06:39,474 --> 00:06:41,566 So that I could be my own boss. 120 00:06:41,793 --> 00:06:45,219 And it started off well, making well over $10,000 121 00:06:45,313 --> 00:06:48,465 A week without too much effort. 122 00:06:48,483 --> 00:06:51,134 My dad was very successful. 123 00:06:51,227 --> 00:06:56,063 So my childhood was fantastic, and oh, 124 00:06:56,158 --> 00:06:58,667 My goodness, I was so happy. 125 00:07:03,072 --> 00:07:04,906 But when chantal was four, there 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,318 Was a tragedy that happened in my life that changed 127 00:07:08,411 --> 00:07:11,171 It forever, for everybody. 128 00:07:11,323 --> 00:07:13,247 Christine's brother brian passed 129 00:07:13,341 --> 00:07:17,677 Away in an automobile accident. 130 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:20,513 My younger brother brian meant everything to me. 131 00:07:20,607 --> 00:07:22,256 We were very close growing up. 132 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:26,686 I was very in shock. 133 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,856 Christine was drinking a lot after her brother passed away. 134 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:33,026 And I think it was her way of just dealing with the loss. 135 00:07:33,178 --> 00:07:36,771 I think I just self-medicated through all of it. 136 00:07:36,865 --> 00:07:38,698 I knew something was wrong, but I 137 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:39,708 Didn't know what was wrong. 138 00:07:45,632 --> 00:07:49,283 Meth helped me push through the day, keep my house clean, 139 00:07:49,303 --> 00:07:51,953 Just keep me busy so I could make it appear 140 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:54,698 To be like, everything was ok. 141 00:07:54,791 --> 00:07:57,033 When I found out she was using drugs, 142 00:07:57,052 --> 00:07:59,126 I just couldn't understand it, and I 143 00:07:59,146 --> 00:08:00,962 Told christine, no more drugs. 144 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:01,888 No more lies. 145 00:08:01,982 --> 00:08:02,772 Let's make this work. 146 00:08:08,714 --> 00:08:12,048 I just remember feeling so bad about having another life 147 00:08:12,141 --> 00:08:14,493 Inside of me and the poison that I 148 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,236 Was putting inside my body, the effect it 149 00:08:16,388 --> 00:08:18,571 Could have on my child. 150 00:08:18,665 --> 00:08:21,148 I wasn't happy about it, but I did tell myself, if anything 151 00:08:21,168 --> 00:08:23,576 Ever happens to that boy, if he ever has any problems I'll 152 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:24,652 Know what it is. 153 00:08:24,746 --> 00:08:26,896 I'll never forgive myself. 154 00:08:26,915 --> 00:08:29,674 And I was very thankful that he was ok. 155 00:08:33,255 --> 00:08:37,849 When jordan came, I was just so happy to have a brother. 156 00:08:38,076 --> 00:08:39,684 I was pretty close with chantal growing up. 157 00:08:39,836 --> 00:08:41,186 Ever since I can remember, really. 158 00:08:41,337 --> 00:08:43,263 Like I remember following her around, 159 00:08:43,357 --> 00:08:45,749 And I was always just bugging her, and trying to hang out. 160 00:08:45,767 --> 00:08:49,694 [music playing] 161 00:08:56,519 --> 00:09:00,430 When I was young, I was really close with my siblings, 162 00:09:00,448 --> 00:09:03,283 And chantal was like a second mom to me, she was so loving. 163 00:09:03,377 --> 00:09:05,769 She would never let anything happen to me. 164 00:09:05,787 --> 00:09:08,529 And we had a good period of growth as a family. 165 00:09:08,623 --> 00:09:11,550 [music playing] 166 00:09:11,777 --> 00:09:14,277 But when chantal was 10 or 11, I started 167 00:09:14,370 --> 00:09:17,280 To see some old signs with christine, 168 00:09:17,299 --> 00:09:19,799 And I didn't want to believe it, but I-- 169 00:09:19,951 --> 00:09:22,394 I knew what was going on. 170 00:09:22,545 --> 00:09:26,064 Christine relapsed, and once it was confirmed, 171 00:09:26,215 --> 00:09:29,292 I said, be gone tomorrow by the time I get home. 172 00:09:29,311 --> 00:09:34,573 And I went to work, and she was gone when I got home. 173 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,910 The problem there was so were my kids. 174 00:09:39,062 --> 00:09:41,971 After christine took the kids, that was devastating. 175 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:44,808 I thought, can she do that? 176 00:09:44,901 --> 00:09:47,477 I knew nothing about law, family law. 177 00:09:47,495 --> 00:09:50,338 [music playing] 178 00:09:53,151 --> 00:09:55,501 It was definitely trying to do a lot for us 179 00:09:55,654 --> 00:09:59,672 And spend the most time with us he could. 180 00:09:59,825 --> 00:10:01,658 But I had to get to work, so I could not 181 00:10:01,676 --> 00:10:03,084 Have my kids with me full time. 182 00:10:03,178 --> 00:10:04,844 [music playing] 183 00:10:04,996 --> 00:10:06,996 Christine's addiction was getting worse during that time. 184 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:08,756 She never knew where the kids were, 185 00:10:08,850 --> 00:10:10,333 What they were dealing with. 186 00:10:10,426 --> 00:10:13,336 She just was not present at all. 187 00:10:13,429 --> 00:10:15,855 Once I was old enough to babysit, 188 00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:18,933 My mom made me take responsibility while she 189 00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:22,787 Was out doing her thing. 190 00:10:22,939 --> 00:10:25,439 My sister was always there for us when my mom was gone. 191 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:29,869 She just kind of got us going, got us up, got us dressed. 192 00:10:29,963 --> 00:10:31,946 Chantal was a great help with those kids. 193 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:34,782 She raised them, as far as I'm concerned. 194 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:37,861 But that put a ton of pressure on chantal as a teenager, 195 00:10:37,954 --> 00:10:40,864 Because she was not only trying to get herself through school, 196 00:10:40,957 --> 00:10:43,216 She was trying to take care of the boys. 197 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:46,144 And I think chantal definitely missed out on having 198 00:10:46,295 --> 00:10:48,221 An active mom in her life. 199 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:53,300 As I got older, I would notice little behaviors from my mom 200 00:10:53,395 --> 00:10:55,636 That I wasn't familiar with. 201 00:10:55,730 --> 00:10:59,807 And then when I was about 14, I found 202 00:10:59,901 --> 00:11:01,493 A pipe under the mattress. 203 00:11:11,246 --> 00:11:17,400 Xanax literally just helped me cope with all of the questions 204 00:11:17,493 --> 00:11:21,087 And all of the uncertainties. 205 00:11:21,239 --> 00:11:26,759 I knew that I had to get away if I wanted any sort of success. 206 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:33,507 When chantal was 14, she moved to her best friend's house. 207 00:11:33,527 --> 00:11:38,771 And it was so hard to do that because that meant leaving 208 00:11:38,924 --> 00:11:43,535 My brothers behind, and I wasn't going to be there to make sure 209 00:11:43,762 --> 00:11:46,779 That everything was going to be ok. 210 00:11:46,932 --> 00:11:49,690 When chantal decided to move out, 211 00:11:49,710 --> 00:11:54,028 I didn't stop her because I knew the home she was going to 212 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:55,939 Was a clean environment. 213 00:11:56,032 --> 00:11:57,382 But when I look back on things, I 214 00:11:57,533 --> 00:12:00,960 Wish I could have provided an environment where 215 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:05,039 It was stable the entire time. 216 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:08,301 And I would definitely change that. 217 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:11,955 Despite the living situation, chantal did get good grades 218 00:12:12,048 --> 00:12:13,623 And graduated by the time she was 18. 219 00:12:13,641 --> 00:12:16,568 [music playing] 220 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:22,315 When chantal was getting married, I was happy about it, 221 00:12:22,467 --> 00:12:25,226 But it was a very emotional time for her. 222 00:12:25,245 --> 00:12:27,987 And I found out that there was just-- 223 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:30,749 Some bad things were going on. 224 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:34,753 Before getting married, my husband was prince charming, 225 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:39,649 But everything changed after we got married. 226 00:12:39,667 --> 00:12:43,152 He started getting violent, and once he-- 227 00:12:43,246 --> 00:12:45,412 He slammed me in the bathroom. 228 00:12:45,507 --> 00:12:49,184 [music playing] 229 00:13:09,105 --> 00:13:10,771 She pulled away from the family. 230 00:13:10,791 --> 00:13:12,606 But when we did see her, that's when 231 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:14,851 We started seeing the difference in her physical appearance. 232 00:13:14,869 --> 00:13:18,046 [music playing] 233 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:25,211 A year after my divorce I started dating a friend. 234 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:27,380 From what I knew of him, it was a great guy. 235 00:13:27,532 --> 00:13:29,365 But chantal and her new boyfriend 236 00:13:29,458 --> 00:13:31,292 Had their battles with heroin addiction. 237 00:13:31,386 --> 00:13:32,960 But I could see that they were trying, 238 00:13:33,054 --> 00:13:35,204 And I felt like, hey it's good. 239 00:13:35,223 --> 00:13:36,205 They can help each other. 240 00:13:36,224 --> 00:13:39,317 [music playing] 241 00:13:40,970 --> 00:13:42,487 I woke up, found out I was pregnant, 242 00:13:42,638 --> 00:13:44,564 And stopped doing drugs at the drop of a hat. 243 00:13:44,716 --> 00:13:48,568 My maternal instincts kicked in, and I was done. 244 00:13:48,662 --> 00:13:51,404 After chantal found out she was pregnant, 245 00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:54,332 Her and her boyfriend moved into a really nice condo 246 00:13:54,483 --> 00:13:56,726 That his parents provided. 247 00:13:56,819 --> 00:13:58,503 She had a nice place to live. 248 00:13:58,730 --> 00:14:00,154 She had everything going for her. 249 00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:04,325 I was extremely proud of her. 250 00:14:04,419 --> 00:14:09,572 Holding my son for the first time was indescribable. 251 00:14:09,591 --> 00:14:14,168 [music playing] 252 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:19,415 The miracle of it all is just so amazing. 253 00:14:19,508 --> 00:14:22,009 She immediately was in mom-mode. 254 00:14:22,103 --> 00:14:23,862 She was a great mother. 255 00:14:24,013 --> 00:14:25,605 She couldn't wait to, you know, do every little thing for him. 256 00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:27,423 She just loved it. 257 00:14:27,442 --> 00:14:29,367 For once in her life she was happy. 258 00:14:29,518 --> 00:14:33,354 It's like I had a prayer answered. 259 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:35,281 Chantal had everything going for her 260 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:40,119 After she had her baby, until she made one bad decision. 261 00:14:40,271 --> 00:14:42,939 With that one decision, everything changed. 262 00:14:42,957 --> 00:14:45,866 This is hard to talk about. 263 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,222 It is too painful to even think about. 264 00:14:57,898 --> 00:14:59,713 Chantal had everything going for her 265 00:14:59,807 --> 00:15:05,219 After she had her baby, until she made one bad decision. 266 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,964 My son was about six months old, 267 00:15:07,982 --> 00:15:12,135 And my baby-daddy came home from work one day 268 00:15:12,153 --> 00:15:15,246 And suggested that we get high. 269 00:15:53,102 --> 00:15:55,845 Chantal losing her son devastated her. 270 00:15:55,863 --> 00:16:00,199 It gave her no more reason to live. 271 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:04,203 It's been about four years since I've seen my son. 272 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:08,691 It's so hard for me to say this, but the facts are that I've 273 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:12,028 Chosen drugs over my son. 274 00:16:12,046 --> 00:16:18,884 So that pain is unbearable, really. 275 00:16:19,037 --> 00:16:22,963 [crying] 276 00:16:22,983 --> 00:16:28,152 I see the parallels between chantal and her mother. 277 00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:31,214 She doesn't have a mother role model. 278 00:16:31,307 --> 00:16:33,399 And when we don't have the skills 279 00:16:33,551 --> 00:16:36,643 As parents, how are we going to pass that onto our kids? 280 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:39,813 [music playing] 281 00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:42,333 Not long after being kicked out of her condo, 282 00:16:42,485 --> 00:16:45,394 Chantal ended up living with her mom. 283 00:16:45,413 --> 00:16:47,839 Christine was still actively using meth, 284 00:16:48,066 --> 00:16:50,174 So when chantal moved in with christine, 285 00:16:50,326 --> 00:16:54,237 They became like roommates, buddies, and using partners. 286 00:16:54,255 --> 00:16:57,348 [music playing] 287 00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:04,430 This is actually like four or five grams of fentanyl. 288 00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:09,176 The first time I tried fentanyl, it literally just helped 289 00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:11,771 Me cope with all of the pain. 290 00:17:11,923 --> 00:17:14,699 I didn't even ever want to stop. 291 00:17:17,595 --> 00:17:21,873 I thought things were bad five years ago, 292 00:17:22,024 --> 00:17:26,193 But right now chantal has just spiraled out of control. 293 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:29,213 Ow, for some reason this is burning. 294 00:17:29,365 --> 00:17:31,457 Her overdoses started happening 295 00:17:31,609 --> 00:17:33,959 More and more in the last year. 296 00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:38,056 And I know it's because she's away from her son. 297 00:17:38,207 --> 00:17:40,449 I've lost track of the number of times 298 00:17:40,543 --> 00:17:42,376 I've heard of her overdosing. 299 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:43,728 I'm surprised she's not dead already. 300 00:17:47,475 --> 00:17:50,735 [music playing] 301 00:17:57,393 --> 00:17:59,969 My hair feels so much better from-- 302 00:17:59,987 --> 00:18:02,229 Just from that trim, because it had been probably 303 00:18:02,323 --> 00:18:03,989 Two years since you trimmed it. 304 00:18:04,084 --> 00:18:07,418 The place we're living now I moved into a little 305 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:09,236 Over three years ago. 306 00:18:09,255 --> 00:18:12,256 And then my daughter, she moved in right then with me. 307 00:18:12,483 --> 00:18:14,667 How did you become so perfect mother? 308 00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:17,653 I'm not perfect by any means, but I do know you 309 00:18:17,746 --> 00:18:18,930 Because you are my daughter. 310 00:18:19,081 --> 00:18:20,489 I never had a sister, and. 311 00:18:20,508 --> 00:18:22,325 I never needed one, because I have you. 312 00:18:22,418 --> 00:18:24,084 You've given me nothing but love. 313 00:18:24,104 --> 00:18:25,328 You've shown me unconditional love-- 314 00:18:25,346 --> 00:18:26,604 That's true. 315 00:18:26,755 --> 00:18:27,830 --And that's all I've needed in life. 316 00:18:27,849 --> 00:18:28,664 Thank you. 317 00:18:28,683 --> 00:18:30,333 That's true. 318 00:18:30,351 --> 00:18:31,758 She's comfortable enough around me to use around me 319 00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:33,594 Because she knows I accept her for who 320 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:36,856 She is, regardless if she's using her drugs or not. 321 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:39,283 Do you like your curls under, or do you like-- 322 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:41,861 Well, first of all, it's not supposed to be a curl, 323 00:18:42,013 --> 00:18:42,954 It's supposed to be a wave. 324 00:18:43,181 --> 00:18:44,196 Ok. 325 00:18:44,349 --> 00:18:45,514 You do-- you do one-- - ok. 326 00:18:45,608 --> 00:18:46,365 Well, you know, you didn't do too bad. 327 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:47,625 Not too shabby. 328 00:18:47,776 --> 00:18:48,851 Seriously, mom, why don't you want 329 00:18:48,944 --> 00:18:49,961 To like, build up your clientele? 330 00:18:50,112 --> 00:18:50,870 My feet hurt. 331 00:18:50,964 --> 00:18:52,021 I'm so tired. 332 00:18:52,114 --> 00:18:53,689 That's the lamest excuse ever. 333 00:18:53,782 --> 00:18:55,299 It's not that I don't want to do hair. 334 00:18:55,451 --> 00:18:57,376 I just want to do it differently. 335 00:18:57,528 --> 00:19:00,287 When I was younger, I worked as a hairdresser. 336 00:19:00,381 --> 00:19:02,198 I do enjoy doing it. 337 00:19:02,216 --> 00:19:04,216 My creativity comes out when I do it. 338 00:19:04,369 --> 00:19:05,309 I want my own shop-- 339 00:19:05,461 --> 00:19:06,886 Ok, well, then-- 340 00:19:07,038 --> 00:19:08,479 --And I wanted to sell hair out of a wig store. 341 00:19:08,631 --> 00:19:10,222 But that's not doing hair. 342 00:19:10,316 --> 00:19:11,557 I want to do the wigs. 343 00:19:11,709 --> 00:19:13,467 I want more for her, you know? 344 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:17,155 She has so much more potential, and she's still young. 345 00:19:17,306 --> 00:19:18,898 She's-- it's not too late. 346 00:19:18,992 --> 00:19:21,308 She's only 52. 347 00:19:21,402 --> 00:19:23,477 Do you have a foil or something you want me to put this in? 348 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:24,236 Yeah. 349 00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:25,646 I get it. 350 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:27,573 Unfortunately, not only have I been 351 00:19:27,725 --> 00:19:30,576 Using fentanyl for the past five or six years-- 352 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:31,410 This one's mine. 353 00:19:31,562 --> 00:19:34,505 I know. 354 00:19:34,657 --> 00:19:36,823 You sweet child of mine. 355 00:19:36,843 --> 00:19:38,843 --My mom's been doing it just as long. 356 00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:48,427 I was using meth, probably, 20 years 357 00:19:48,579 --> 00:19:50,337 Before I ever tried fentanyl. 358 00:19:50,356 --> 00:19:53,691 Hope my dad doesn't see that. 359 00:19:53,842 --> 00:19:56,769 It's not that I like fentanyl so much, but it makes you sick. 360 00:19:56,921 --> 00:19:59,255 If you try to get off of it, it's horrible. 361 00:19:59,273 --> 00:20:02,258 So instead of being sick, I would rather use it. 362 00:20:02,276 --> 00:20:05,352 The day a parent uses drugs with their child, 363 00:20:05,371 --> 00:20:06,278 That's kind of shocking. 364 00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:08,873 [music playing] 365 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:18,198 I pay for the drugs right now through the stimulus 366 00:20:18,292 --> 00:20:21,034 And through the edd. 367 00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:22,386 Can I see your torch? 368 00:20:22,613 --> 00:20:24,463 When I think about chantal and christine 369 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:28,893 During fentanyl together, I'm just devastated. 370 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,303 I'm devastated because it just shows 371 00:20:31,456 --> 00:20:34,715 Me how broken both of them are. 372 00:20:34,809 --> 00:20:38,385 I think it's like the worst case of family dysfunction 373 00:20:38,404 --> 00:20:40,463 Ever. 374 00:20:40,481 --> 00:20:42,965 And it will continue until they die. 375 00:20:42,984 --> 00:20:46,077 [music playing] 376 00:20:57,815 --> 00:21:00,240 If I have to clean it up I will. 377 00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:01,000 Hold up. 378 00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:01,834 I know. 379 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:03,761 Thank you. 380 00:21:03,912 --> 00:21:05,504 Actually I just use because I like to get high off the smell. 381 00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:07,506 [laughter] 382 00:21:07,658 --> 00:21:09,158 Chantal and I are not the only ones 383 00:21:09,176 --> 00:21:11,510 Addicted to fentanyl in the apartment. 384 00:21:11,662 --> 00:21:15,940 My boyfriend tim uses fentanyl too. 385 00:21:16,091 --> 00:21:20,686 Right now, I use fentanyl and speed. 386 00:21:20,838 --> 00:21:23,096 The high from fentanyl just helps you sleep. 387 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:26,433 So when you don't do fentanyl, you're just-- you're just up. 388 00:21:26,527 --> 00:21:27,618 It's a crazy drug. 389 00:21:27,770 --> 00:21:29,028 Don't understand why people do it. 390 00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:30,696 I don't even know why I do it. [laughing] 391 00:21:30,848 --> 00:21:32,181 Thank you. Are you done? 392 00:21:32,199 --> 00:21:36,035 Christine, her boyfriend, and chantal all 393 00:21:36,187 --> 00:21:39,279 Live together in the small studio apartment. 394 00:21:39,299 --> 00:21:41,206 I don't mean to be pushy, but responsibility 395 00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:43,042 Has got to come first. 396 00:21:43,136 --> 00:21:45,136 We're supposed to go apply for food stamps right now. 397 00:21:45,287 --> 00:21:47,120 I forgot about that. 398 00:21:47,214 --> 00:21:50,308 But my other two boys, jordan and joey, live there as well. 399 00:21:50,459 --> 00:21:52,125 - Are you ready to roll, joey? - Yeah. 400 00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:54,203 Not only do we live in such close quarters, 401 00:21:54,221 --> 00:21:58,707 But my family is pretty tight-knit, you know? 402 00:21:58,726 --> 00:21:59,817 We all look out for each other. 403 00:21:59,968 --> 00:22:01,134 Just clear the one-- 404 00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:01,894 Burgers. - I am. 405 00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:02,728 Thank you. 406 00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:04,380 Come on joey. 407 00:22:04,398 --> 00:22:08,050 My family pays for food and basic necessities 408 00:22:08,069 --> 00:22:10,402 Through the welfare system. 409 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:12,312 Let's go. 410 00:22:12,406 --> 00:22:14,498 Sometimes we don't always have it, but we seem to manage-- 411 00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:15,833 We manage somehow. 412 00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:17,317 We're going to get food stamps, bro. 413 00:22:17,337 --> 00:22:18,911 20 minutes, you got to hurry up. 414 00:22:19,063 --> 00:22:21,005 I pretty much help my family in any way, 415 00:22:21,156 --> 00:22:22,823 Shape, or form that I can. 416 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:25,734 Anybody needs a ride, if anybody needs something done, 417 00:22:25,753 --> 00:22:26,969 You know, we'll get it done. 418 00:22:28,831 --> 00:22:31,498 Jordan is the older brother, so he's 419 00:22:31,592 --> 00:22:32,683 Like the man of the house. 420 00:22:34,579 --> 00:22:36,762 He's always making sure his brother is ok. 421 00:22:36,914 --> 00:22:37,813 I'm very proud of jordan. 422 00:22:42,086 --> 00:22:43,027 Help. 423 00:22:43,178 --> 00:22:44,603 Jordan helps me. 424 00:22:44,755 --> 00:22:46,605 Like me and my brother, we grew up together, 425 00:22:46,757 --> 00:22:49,758 And he knows that-- some of the hard things that we have 426 00:22:49,777 --> 00:22:54,663 Been through, and he's there for me every time I need something. 427 00:22:57,435 --> 00:22:59,602 Joey. 428 00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:01,937 I used to help my family quite a bit, 429 00:23:02,030 --> 00:23:04,289 But I can't give them anymore. 430 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:07,033 I'm done. 431 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:09,795 Thank you so much. 432 00:23:09,947 --> 00:23:12,297 I recently just was cut off of my unemployment, 433 00:23:12,450 --> 00:23:14,617 So we applied for food stamps, and then we 434 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:16,227 Got it, so it all worked out. 435 00:23:26,631 --> 00:23:27,721 Pretty much. 436 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,298 Yeah, we did good. 437 00:23:29,391 --> 00:23:30,482 But I'm exhausted right now. 438 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:31,391 Man: Yeah. 439 00:23:31,411 --> 00:23:33,485 Why am I so tired? 440 00:23:33,638 --> 00:23:36,229 My kids, they know how much I love them, 441 00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:39,083 But chantal is not my only child addicted to fentanyl. 442 00:23:48,335 --> 00:23:51,077 My other two boys, jordan and joey, they're addicted, 443 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:52,412 As well. 444 00:23:52,432 --> 00:23:53,839 Everybody who lives in the apartment 445 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:54,765 Is addicted to fentanyl. 446 00:24:02,850 --> 00:24:06,669 My siblings and I all got addicted to fentanyl 447 00:24:06,762 --> 00:24:08,446 About five to six years ago. 448 00:24:12,860 --> 00:24:15,527 Fentanyl takes away all the stress and everything 449 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,622 That a normal person deals with on a daily basis. 450 00:24:18,774 --> 00:24:21,350 I don't really think about those things 451 00:24:21,443 --> 00:24:22,943 As much as I probably should. 452 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:23,702 Don't kill it now. 453 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:24,795 Save me some. 454 00:24:24,947 --> 00:24:26,130 - It's a painkiller. - Ya know. 455 00:24:26,357 --> 00:24:27,873 I always kind of just found it as a way 456 00:24:28,025 --> 00:24:32,136 To, like, get through hard things, you know? 457 00:24:32,363 --> 00:24:34,863 When he was little, I remember jordan 458 00:24:34,957 --> 00:24:38,867 Always wanting to be a marine. 459 00:24:38,961 --> 00:24:41,537 I just think he's proud of his country. 460 00:24:41,555 --> 00:24:43,388 I went to the recruiting office when I was 18, 461 00:24:43,541 --> 00:24:46,225 But I had already multiple offenses 462 00:24:46,377 --> 00:24:50,136 For possession of marijuana. 463 00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:53,065 So they weren't going to allow me to join. 464 00:24:53,217 --> 00:24:54,883 That's the only thing I'd ever wanted to do, 465 00:24:54,902 --> 00:24:56,218 Was join the marine corps. 466 00:24:56,311 --> 00:24:57,978 That was the only passion I had, so, yeah, 467 00:24:58,072 --> 00:25:00,664 It was pretty devastating. 468 00:25:00,816 --> 00:25:04,560 Not long after being denied to join the marine corps, I-- 469 00:25:04,578 --> 00:25:08,154 I messed up and started using heroin a lot. 470 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,899 [music playing] 471 00:25:10,918 --> 00:25:12,343 And then four years ago, I switched 472 00:25:12,494 --> 00:25:14,419 From heroin to fentanyl. 473 00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:17,740 Within six months, I was smoking between a half gram 474 00:25:17,833 --> 00:25:19,308 To a gram a day of fentanyl. 475 00:25:22,246 --> 00:25:25,005 And a gram to two grams of meth every day. 476 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,524 Do you want any of that? 477 00:25:33,591 --> 00:25:34,923 Joey wanted to go in the military 478 00:25:35,017 --> 00:25:38,093 Like his older brother, also. 479 00:25:38,112 --> 00:25:40,520 But joey started using drugs around 16, 480 00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:44,524 And I think he was using xanax and the oxys. 481 00:25:44,544 --> 00:25:47,027 I believe that joey first turned to drugs 482 00:25:47,121 --> 00:25:48,937 To be like his brother. 483 00:25:49,031 --> 00:25:51,940 He idolized his older brother. 484 00:25:51,959 --> 00:25:55,294 Joey and I as kids were, like, best friends, you know? 485 00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:57,963 Definitely inseparable, and for the most part, 486 00:25:58,115 --> 00:26:00,206 I've always shared a room with him. 487 00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:02,393 They live together, use together, 488 00:26:02,544 --> 00:26:03,969 And help each other out. 489 00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:05,804 I don't know how they think that that's safe, 490 00:26:05,956 --> 00:26:07,856 But to them, they're caring for each other. 491 00:26:10,552 --> 00:26:14,129 In jordan's bed in garden grove. 492 00:26:14,148 --> 00:26:15,072 Where do you think we are? 493 00:26:17,577 --> 00:26:20,226 In the ocean? 494 00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,988 Joey is not only addicted to fentanyl, 495 00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:27,476 But he's suffering from some serious drug-induced 496 00:26:27,569 --> 00:26:29,587 Mental health issues, as well. 497 00:26:29,738 --> 00:26:31,255 Seems like this thing is after me again, isn't it? 498 00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:38,429 The boogie man. 499 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:40,839 He, like, hears voices, and he's, 500 00:26:40,991 --> 00:26:44,993 You know, he's talking about things that aren't, like, true. 501 00:26:45,012 --> 00:26:46,829 Like 502 00:26:46,847 --> 00:26:48,497 What-- wait. 503 00:26:48,515 --> 00:26:49,398 Do you hear that? 504 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:55,070 I hear somebody screaming and crying. 505 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:03,345 I feel that it was triggered by his drug use, 506 00:27:03,364 --> 00:27:07,291 And I know at this point that the drugs are destroying 507 00:27:07,442 --> 00:27:09,460 Joey's mental health. 508 00:27:09,611 --> 00:27:10,794 I--, I-- (bleep) 509 00:27:10,946 --> 00:27:11,962 I can't do this right now. 510 00:27:15,542 --> 00:27:18,802 [music playing] 511 00:27:26,461 --> 00:27:28,628 I'm here checking on my family, 512 00:27:28,722 --> 00:27:31,148 As I do almost every day. 513 00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:35,878 It's always interesting when I show up, 514 00:27:35,971 --> 00:27:37,396 Never know what's going to happen 515 00:27:37,548 --> 00:27:40,491 When I walk through that door. 516 00:27:40,718 --> 00:27:41,400 Hey, jordan. 517 00:27:41,552 --> 00:27:42,234 [inaudible]. 518 00:27:42,386 --> 00:27:43,719 Chan. 519 00:27:43,737 --> 00:27:45,237 So how's chantal? 520 00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,313 She's asleep. 521 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,649 Chan. 522 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:50,668 Is she breathing dad? 523 00:27:53,989 --> 00:27:58,825 My role is to make sure they keep 524 00:27:58,919 --> 00:28:00,994 Living and function day to day. 525 00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:04,406 On average, I'm there three, four, five nights a week. 526 00:28:04,425 --> 00:28:07,759 At any moment any one of them could overdose, any one of them 527 00:28:07,853 --> 00:28:08,668 Could die. 528 00:28:08,688 --> 00:28:09,502 Jordan-- 529 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:10,837 Yeah. 530 00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:12,189 --Let's go hook up that third light. 531 00:28:12,416 --> 00:28:14,007 I think-- yeah, I mean, that would be cool. 532 00:28:14,026 --> 00:28:16,009 You want to come outside and get me started? 533 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:19,029 Wait, because I'm going to take a hit just real quick. 534 00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:26,370 My dad's worried about all of us, but he's kind of just 535 00:28:26,521 --> 00:28:31,283 Grown to accept the fact that he can't change what we do. 536 00:28:31,435 --> 00:28:32,434 Jordan-- 537 00:28:32,527 --> 00:28:33,602 No, we're good. What's up. 538 00:28:33,695 --> 00:28:34,286 What's up, (bleep) you ready? 539 00:28:34,438 --> 00:28:35,379 Ready? 540 00:28:35,530 --> 00:28:36,271 Yeah, I'm ready. 541 00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:37,005 Ok. 542 00:28:41,295 --> 00:28:43,536 It's been a while since I've seen chantal like that. 543 00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:45,205 Yeah, it's the xanax, man, she slams that (bleep). 544 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,782 Eventually, at one point of the day, 545 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,225 She gets-- she gets like that every day. 546 00:28:48,376 --> 00:28:50,561 And how about joey? 547 00:28:50,712 --> 00:28:51,787 I don't know. 548 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,730 I can't tell you-- - I know. 549 00:28:52,881 --> 00:28:53,972 --Anything about him. 550 00:28:54,124 --> 00:28:55,882 - He slipped away. - [inaudible]. 551 00:28:55,976 --> 00:28:57,793 Like he'll just have, like, a blank look on his face, like-- 552 00:28:57,811 --> 00:28:59,962 Like he's just not there, dude. 553 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:02,297 I'm sure he's having a problem with determining 554 00:29:02,390 --> 00:29:03,966 What's real and what isn't. 555 00:29:04,059 --> 00:29:06,468 Because why else would he do that? 556 00:29:06,487 --> 00:29:11,823 Joey has od'd at least twice in the last six months. 557 00:29:11,976 --> 00:29:13,417 And one of them I was there for. 558 00:29:14,979 --> 00:29:15,586 Joey: Joey. 559 00:29:16,981 --> 00:29:18,663 Joey: Yeah. 560 00:29:18,816 --> 00:29:22,000 I can't tell you how many people have od'd in this place. 561 00:29:22,152 --> 00:29:25,821 So I always tell these guys if you're going to do drugs 562 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:27,747 This deadly get some narcan. 563 00:29:27,841 --> 00:29:29,099 What are you doing? 564 00:29:29,326 --> 00:29:30,842 And ever since then, they've had narcan, 565 00:29:30,995 --> 00:29:32,436 And they've used it many times. 566 00:29:32,587 --> 00:29:34,679 I don't condone it, but the years 567 00:29:34,832 --> 00:29:37,516 Of lecturing and talking down to them about it, 568 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:38,517 They don't even hear me. 569 00:29:38,611 --> 00:29:40,426 I don't even hear me. 570 00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:42,504 From what I understand, the last time 571 00:29:42,597 --> 00:29:44,281 Joey od'd, took two narcan. 572 00:29:46,601 --> 00:29:48,410 It's (bleep) up you have to do that to your brother. 573 00:29:50,848 --> 00:29:51,455 Really? 574 00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:54,199 Oh, my god. 575 00:29:54,351 --> 00:29:55,292 How come I don't hear about these things? 576 00:29:58,964 --> 00:30:02,541 So this is my life, and this is their life, 577 00:30:02,693 --> 00:30:04,968 And I choose to be in it. 578 00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:26,048 Dylan. 579 00:30:26,066 --> 00:30:26,990 Oh, my gosh. 580 00:30:27,217 --> 00:30:27,883 Hi. 581 00:30:27,901 --> 00:30:29,642 Hey. 582 00:30:29,736 --> 00:30:31,829 Dylan is my fourth child. 583 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,072 The last time I saw her was about two or three years ago. 584 00:30:34,224 --> 00:30:34,906 What? 585 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,648 I look older? 586 00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:37,242 Yeah. 587 00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:40,395 She grew up differently than these kids here. 588 00:30:40,414 --> 00:30:41,821 They had a different mother. 589 00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:43,415 She's got a good head on her shoulders. 590 00:30:43,567 --> 00:30:45,400 You're the only one that looks just like me. 591 00:30:45,419 --> 00:30:49,071 [laughing] I flew out for my family's intervention because I 592 00:30:49,164 --> 00:30:52,924 Know how serious this is, and I really want my siblings to know 593 00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:55,577 How much I do care about them, even though they 594 00:30:55,670 --> 00:30:59,505 Are not in my life very much. 595 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,083 I want to know what's-- 596 00:31:01,101 --> 00:31:02,860 What's really going on. 597 00:31:03,011 --> 00:31:06,846 Like don't sugarcoat it and put it how you always try to. 598 00:31:06,866 --> 00:31:10,367 Ok, so they literally do nothing all day. 599 00:31:10,518 --> 00:31:11,684 So unhelpful. 600 00:31:11,704 --> 00:31:12,611 They're not even people anymore. 601 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:13,370 They're zombies. 602 00:31:13,521 --> 00:31:15,855 They're sleestaks. 603 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,523 When I was nine, I went to california, 604 00:31:17,543 --> 00:31:20,526 And I was able to meet all of my siblings, 605 00:31:20,621 --> 00:31:23,529 And it was like an instant connection with all of them. 606 00:31:23,549 --> 00:31:25,123 Like I've known them my whole life, 607 00:31:25,275 --> 00:31:26,958 But the last time I saw my siblings 608 00:31:27,111 --> 00:31:29,461 Was about nine years ago. 609 00:31:29,613 --> 00:31:32,297 I'll tell you one thing, they're all still alive, 610 00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:34,391 And they shouldn't be. 611 00:31:34,542 --> 00:31:38,803 If they don't get help are you going 612 00:31:38,956 --> 00:31:41,064 To stop providing for them? 613 00:31:41,216 --> 00:31:43,475 I've stopped-- I've slowly stopped. 614 00:31:43,627 --> 00:31:45,551 What I do now for them is virtually nothing. 615 00:31:45,571 --> 00:31:48,221 You 100% enable them, and you always have. 616 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,633 You've always provided drugs. 617 00:31:51,652 --> 00:31:54,469 I give them money, and they bought drugs with it. 618 00:31:54,488 --> 00:31:55,654 You knew that [inaudible]. 619 00:31:55,806 --> 00:31:57,155 But every time I handed them money, 620 00:31:57,307 --> 00:31:58,657 I said, please don't buy drugs. 621 00:31:58,809 --> 00:32:00,751 This is so you can live, not so you can die. 622 00:32:00,978 --> 00:32:02,494 Buy yourself a sandwich, get some drinks. 623 00:32:02,646 --> 00:32:03,979 But you knew what they were buying. 624 00:32:03,997 --> 00:32:06,924 [music playing] 625 00:32:07,151 --> 00:32:08,908 I think the situation with my family 626 00:32:08,928 --> 00:32:11,836 Is unhealthy because they are all enabling each other 627 00:32:11,989 --> 00:32:14,322 And making each other more sick. 628 00:32:14,416 --> 00:32:18,251 This intervention is so crucial because I really feel that it's 629 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,846 The last chance that we have. 630 00:32:21,941 --> 00:32:25,567 I'm glad that you care enough to continue to try and help. 631 00:32:36,346 --> 00:32:39,347 My name is sylvia parsons, and I am a board 632 00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:41,107 Registered interventionist. 633 00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:43,776 I am working this intervention with consigli 634 00:32:43,796 --> 00:32:48,465 Because the whole family uses fentanyl, one of the most 635 00:32:48,616 --> 00:32:52,452 Lethal drugs around today. 636 00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:55,714 And it's going to take two of us to strategize how 637 00:32:55,866 --> 00:32:58,458 To get them all into treatment. 638 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:01,886 They all live together and use together. 639 00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:05,874 They have to walk around to see if this person's breathing 640 00:33:05,967 --> 00:33:07,484 Or that person's breathing. 641 00:33:07,635 --> 00:33:08,801 Do we need narcan? 642 00:33:08,895 --> 00:33:11,213 Do we need to call 9-1-1? 643 00:33:11,306 --> 00:33:15,158 This is a crisis intervention. 644 00:33:15,385 --> 00:33:18,236 I want to meet with chantal's grandparents 645 00:33:18,388 --> 00:33:22,815 Today because I can learn more about chantal, 646 00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:27,153 About her mother, about all the family members that suffer 647 00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:29,748 From the disease of addiction. 648 00:33:29,842 --> 00:33:31,583 Woman: Come on in. Sylvia parsons: Hey, there. 649 00:33:31,735 --> 00:33:32,676 I'm sylvia. 650 00:33:32,827 --> 00:33:34,511 Woman: Nice to meet you. 651 00:33:34,662 --> 00:33:36,738 Ladies, I'm so excited to meet you. 652 00:33:36,831 --> 00:33:38,664 I'm so proud that you're here. 653 00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:40,666 Your families in some trouble. 654 00:33:40,761 --> 00:33:42,427 We're going to talk about that. 655 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:44,670 And I'm so happy that you're willing to support them. 656 00:33:44,765 --> 00:33:46,690 It's a life saving event. 657 00:33:46,917 --> 00:33:48,933 Whatever it takes, that's what I will do. 658 00:33:49,086 --> 00:33:50,360 Good. 659 00:33:50,587 --> 00:33:53,088 Ilene, I want to ask you about christine. 660 00:33:53,106 --> 00:33:57,442 Do you know how old she was when she first started experimenting 661 00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,703 With drugs or alcohol? 662 00:33:59,930 --> 00:34:03,540 I think christine was maybe around 11, 663 00:34:03,691 --> 00:34:05,784 Because we had alcohol in our home 664 00:34:05,936 --> 00:34:09,046 Because her father is an alcoholic. 665 00:34:09,197 --> 00:34:10,696 So christine's dad's an alcoholic? 666 00:34:10,716 --> 00:34:11,773 Yeah. Yeah. 667 00:34:11,866 --> 00:34:12,957 Did they ever drink together? 668 00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:14,384 Oh, yeah. 669 00:34:14,611 --> 00:34:16,111 You know, I didn't like it at all, but-- 670 00:34:16,129 --> 00:34:17,203 That was a bond for them. 671 00:34:17,297 --> 00:34:19,222 That was a bond for them. 672 00:34:19,449 --> 00:34:21,874 You know, I was a very good enabler. 673 00:34:21,894 --> 00:34:24,043 I just, you know, cleaned up after them 674 00:34:24,063 --> 00:34:25,878 And took care of them like christine 675 00:34:25,972 --> 00:34:26,897 Does now with her kids. 676 00:34:31,052 --> 00:34:35,480 Cathleen, how do you think the situation with this family, 677 00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:39,484 That is so addicted and so sick, what kind of toll 678 00:34:39,636 --> 00:34:41,986 Do you think that's actually taking on joe? 679 00:34:42,139 --> 00:34:44,823 He said he copes with drinking. 680 00:34:44,917 --> 00:34:46,641 It relaxes him. 681 00:34:46,734 --> 00:34:48,901 It's easy for him to deal with it. 682 00:34:48,921 --> 00:34:51,588 Do you think he has addiction issues, joe? 683 00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,341 A few years ago I heard that when they were first married, 684 00:35:03,493 --> 00:35:06,269 Christine and joe were into the drugs together. 685 00:35:06,496 --> 00:35:09,255 From the time chantal was about four 686 00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:12,834 To the time she was about six, I indulged 687 00:35:12,853 --> 00:35:16,596 In the use of methamphetamine with christine. 688 00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:19,174 Christine offered and she convinced me, 689 00:35:19,192 --> 00:35:21,509 Because I loved my wife, and she said that it would be 690 00:35:21,603 --> 00:35:24,028 Good for us, and it'd be fun. 691 00:35:24,181 --> 00:35:26,105 The first time I snorted the meth 692 00:35:26,125 --> 00:35:29,033 It gave me energy all night, and I thought, this is great. 693 00:35:29,186 --> 00:35:30,852 Let's get some more. 694 00:35:30,871 --> 00:35:34,205 We would lock the door and go in our bedroom and use. 695 00:35:34,358 --> 00:35:37,041 And chantal had no idea what we were doing. 696 00:35:37,136 --> 00:35:39,527 Do you think he might be using now because he's 697 00:35:39,546 --> 00:35:41,954 Around that family so much? 698 00:35:41,974 --> 00:35:46,201 I don't know, but how can you not? 699 00:35:46,219 --> 00:35:48,961 I think that we need to be prepared 700 00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:52,207 For a lot of different things in this intervention. 701 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,709 One of those things is joe. 702 00:35:54,728 --> 00:35:58,380 I think he has become addicted to the family again. 703 00:35:58,398 --> 00:36:01,658 And the family is addicted to fentanyl, which 704 00:36:01,809 --> 00:36:04,644 Leads me to believe that joe might 705 00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:07,497 Be slipping back into his old habits 706 00:36:07,649 --> 00:36:09,666 Of drug and alcohol abuse. 707 00:36:09,817 --> 00:36:12,076 It's definitely a family disease. 708 00:36:12,171 --> 00:36:14,671 They're all sick, and we're going to try to get them well. 709 00:36:27,502 --> 00:36:30,020 You all right? 710 00:36:30,171 --> 00:36:31,521 Is she feeling any better? 711 00:36:33,767 --> 00:36:35,841 She's having-- she's been having an attack all night. 712 00:36:35,861 --> 00:36:36,601 Are you serious? 713 00:36:36,753 --> 00:36:38,528 Yeah. 714 00:36:38,755 --> 00:36:41,272 Sometimes my mom gets these heart complications, 715 00:36:41,425 --> 00:36:43,349 And it's when she usually drinks, or, like, 716 00:36:43,443 --> 00:36:44,868 Strains her body too much. 717 00:36:45,019 --> 00:36:46,778 But she's supposed to be taking medication for it, 718 00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:48,596 But I think she ran out of those. 719 00:36:48,615 --> 00:36:51,875 [music playing] 720 00:36:57,865 --> 00:36:59,699 Oh, what's she doing outside? 721 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:00,675 I'll go. 722 00:37:03,889 --> 00:37:08,391 I just need a quiet, peaceful moment where I can just not 723 00:37:08,618 --> 00:37:10,727 Have anything in my brain distracting me 724 00:37:10,878 --> 00:37:13,396 So I can concentrate on my breathing, 725 00:37:13,548 --> 00:37:16,399 So I can convert back to a regular heartbeat. 726 00:37:38,164 --> 00:37:40,982 Fentanyl helps to make somebody feel better that uses it, 727 00:37:41,001 --> 00:37:42,759 So when they get something that usually 728 00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:43,885 Helps them a little bit. 729 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:50,583 I just offered it because, you know, 730 00:37:50,677 --> 00:37:52,176 This is what I usually do. 731 00:37:52,329 --> 00:37:54,253 I guess it seems to be working a little bit, so-- 732 00:37:54,273 --> 00:37:56,606 [laughs] 733 00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:08,601 My relationship with jordan is very loving and close, 734 00:38:08,695 --> 00:38:13,623 And he knows that I get scared, and he'll make me feel better. 735 00:38:25,378 --> 00:38:28,763 [music playing] 736 00:38:34,462 --> 00:38:35,720 My name is ken seeley. 737 00:38:35,872 --> 00:38:38,648 I am a certified intervention professional, 738 00:38:38,875 --> 00:38:40,633 And I have been doing interventions 739 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:41,818 For over 20 years. 740 00:38:44,823 --> 00:38:46,397 Sylvia parsons (on phone): Sylvia parsons. 741 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:47,657 Hey, sylvia. 742 00:38:47,884 --> 00:38:49,217 Sylvia parsons (on phone): Hey, ken. 743 00:38:49,235 --> 00:38:52,812 Listen, I met chantal's grandmothers today, 744 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:57,334 And I learned something interesting about the dad too. 745 00:38:57,561 --> 00:38:59,318 Ok. 746 00:38:59,338 --> 00:39:00,745 Sylvia parsons (on phone): They mentioned that he had been 747 00:39:00,897 --> 00:39:03,656 Drinking more, and he definitely has a history 748 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:06,176 Of using methamphetamine. 749 00:39:06,327 --> 00:39:11,756 And that really concerns me because he's with the family 750 00:39:11,908 --> 00:39:16,411 All the time now, and I just can't imagine that he hasn't 751 00:39:16,429 --> 00:39:18,355 Started using drugs again. 752 00:39:18,582 --> 00:39:20,248 Yeah, that sounds like a big red flag. 753 00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:22,341 You know, in order for this to work everybody 754 00:39:22,435 --> 00:39:24,769 Has got to be on the same page, and they've got to be sober. 755 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,270 Sylvia parsons (on phone): That's exactly how I feel. 756 00:39:26,365 --> 00:39:27,680 All right. 757 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,366 Well, thank you for letting me know. 758 00:39:29,517 --> 00:39:31,259 I'm going to ask him tonight and get to the bottom of it. 759 00:39:31,277 --> 00:39:32,017 All right. 760 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:34,429 Bye now. 761 00:39:34,447 --> 00:39:37,857 What concerns me about joe possibly using and doing 762 00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:42,862 Drugs is he could sabotage this whole thing when people 763 00:39:42,956 --> 00:39:45,273 Are going, well, you do it too. 764 00:39:45,291 --> 00:39:46,791 You're using too. 765 00:39:46,943 --> 00:39:48,718 How come you're not getting help? 766 00:39:48,945 --> 00:39:50,720 And that could blow up right in our face. 767 00:39:50,947 --> 00:39:53,056 So I'm going to have to confront joe 768 00:39:53,283 --> 00:39:55,374 About his possible substance abuse 769 00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:58,395 When I meet him tonight, because I need to know the facts. 770 00:39:58,622 --> 00:40:02,123 I need to know what I'm working with. 771 00:40:02,142 --> 00:40:03,048 Joe, ken. Joe: Hi, ken. 772 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:03,808 Ken seeley: Pleasure. 773 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:04,884 Joe: Nice to meet you. 774 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:05,885 So how are things going? 775 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:06,811 Very hopeful. 776 00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:07,570 Very hopeful. 777 00:40:07,797 --> 00:40:08,463 Hopeful? 778 00:40:08,481 --> 00:40:09,906 Yes. 779 00:40:10,133 --> 00:40:11,633 So now, what is your role in the family? 780 00:40:11,726 --> 00:40:13,893 Oh, that's a good question. 781 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:15,319 I don't think I have a role anymore. 782 00:40:15,472 --> 00:40:17,396 I've overstayed my welcome. 783 00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:19,899 I've cared too much, and I've tried too hard, too long. 784 00:40:19,993 --> 00:40:21,325 They don't want to see my face. 785 00:40:21,478 --> 00:40:22,493 - Really? - Yeah. 786 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:23,645 None of them? 787 00:40:23,663 --> 00:40:25,588 I don't think so. 788 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:27,740 So how hard is it for you to be around the family 789 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,259 Right now with the way everything is? 790 00:40:29,410 --> 00:40:32,837 Right now I should have pulled away a while ago, 791 00:40:32,989 --> 00:40:34,764 But part of me said, even though I need to, 792 00:40:34,916 --> 00:40:37,492 I can't, because if one of them dies 793 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:39,269 I'd never live with myself. 794 00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:44,107 I know that when I did try, things got worse, a lot worse. 795 00:40:44,334 --> 00:40:47,669 One day, joey and chantal od'd, and I 796 00:40:47,687 --> 00:40:50,004 Was going to two hospitals for two of my kids 797 00:40:50,097 --> 00:40:51,430 That I didn't know if they were alive. 798 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:52,765 Oh, god. 799 00:40:52,859 --> 00:40:53,950 So I'm all out of options. 800 00:40:54,101 --> 00:40:55,452 I've tried everything. 801 00:40:58,439 --> 00:41:01,182 So I have to ask you, because you're around a lot of drug 802 00:41:01,275 --> 00:41:02,792 Use, are you using drugs now? 803 00:41:07,023 --> 00:41:09,114 There was a time when we were a normal family. 804 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:10,692 You bullshit, get out of my room. 805 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:12,469 Man: Hey jordan. - What? 806 00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:14,362 - Do you want to come help me? - Oh, not right this second. 807 00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:15,454 Christine, you want to help? 808 00:41:15,548 --> 00:41:18,308 Those days are over. 809 00:41:18,535 --> 00:41:21,126 Don't make me scared to be around you. 810 00:41:21,146 --> 00:41:21,961 Man: Chantal. 811 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:23,705 Is she breathing? 812 00:41:23,723 --> 00:41:27,058 This is the largest intervention I've ever done. 813 00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:31,713 I've never seen a family as sick and broken as this family. 814 00:41:31,731 --> 00:41:34,549 Chantal and her mom have said if the boys don't 815 00:41:34,642 --> 00:41:35,992 Go they're not going to go. 816 00:41:36,219 --> 00:41:37,810 We got to get them out of here right now. 817 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:40,813 If they say no, that could sabotage 818 00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:43,500 This whole intervention.