1 00:00:01,769 --> 00:00:02,968 Announcer: This program contains subject 2 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:04,737 matter and language that may be disturbing to some viewers. 3 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:06,305 Viewer discretion is advised. 4 00:00:15,149 --> 00:00:16,148 Jordan: My name is jordan. 5 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:17,282 I'm 34. 6 00:00:17,385 --> 00:00:19,118 I would definitely consider myself an alcoholic. 7 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:24,356 What do you want? 8 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:30,129 You already had some this morning? 9 00:00:36,137 --> 00:00:38,904 He can drink up to 750 milliliter of vodka 10 00:00:39,006 --> 00:00:42,141 in a single sitting. 11 00:00:42,243 --> 00:00:44,109 You all right? 12 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:48,047 Aubre: He has to be helped to do normal daily tasks, 13 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:50,449 and he really can't help anyone right now because he can't 14 00:00:50,551 --> 00:00:52,117 even take care of himself. 15 00:00:56,157 --> 00:01:03,462 Careful. 16 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:05,431 Derek: Seeing jordan today, he looks like a complete shell 17 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:08,300 of his former self. 18 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:09,401 Jordan had a very accomplished career starting 19 00:01:09,503 --> 00:01:11,970 with his military service. 20 00:01:12,073 --> 00:01:14,940 He's an accomplished veteran who served our country. 21 00:01:15,042 --> 00:01:16,442 After that, he went into the nursing community. 22 00:01:16,544 --> 00:01:19,211 He was a beloved icu nurse. 23 00:01:19,313 --> 00:01:21,346 He fought on the front lines of covid. 24 00:01:21,449 --> 00:01:23,348 Lisa: Jordan. 25 00:01:23,451 --> 00:01:24,283 Yeah? 26 00:01:24,385 --> 00:01:26,585 Lisa: What are you doing. 27 00:01:26,687 --> 00:01:27,386 I'm fine. 28 00:01:27,488 --> 00:01:29,288 No, you're not fine. 29 00:01:29,390 --> 00:01:31,190 There you go. 30 00:01:31,292 --> 00:01:36,195 Lisa: Jordan's drinking has caused a lot of heartache 31 00:01:36,297 --> 00:01:42,367 and a lot of stress on every member of our family. 32 00:01:42,470 --> 00:01:44,503 What did you drink? 33 00:01:44,605 --> 00:01:45,437 I'm fine. 34 00:01:48,476 --> 00:01:50,042 Jordan: Yes, ma'am. 35 00:01:50,144 --> 00:01:51,009 All right. 36 00:01:52,947 --> 00:01:54,680 Linda: The alcohol addiction has gotten 37 00:01:54,782 --> 00:01:58,283 so out of control with jordan that I 38 00:01:58,385 --> 00:02:01,186 am afraid he's going to die. 39 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:06,992 This intervention, it is his life or his death. 40 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:27,679 Derek: Jordan drinks all day every day. 41 00:02:31,352 --> 00:02:33,152 As long as he can get his hands on some alcohol, 42 00:02:33,254 --> 00:02:36,555 he'll be drinking it. 43 00:02:36,657 --> 00:02:38,924 Jordan: I've been hospitalized with a blood 44 00:02:39,026 --> 00:02:42,861 alcohol level of 0.536. 45 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:52,971 Jordan has been arrested for three charges of extreme dui. 46 00:02:53,073 --> 00:02:55,574 Jordan currently lives with my mom and dad 47 00:02:55,676 --> 00:02:58,010 because he really has no other place to go. 48 00:02:58,112 --> 00:02:59,578 Lisa: Jordan! 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,114 You're standing there pissing on my floor. 50 00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:05,817 You're pissing on my wall. 51 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,053 Jordan's alcoholism has come to the point 52 00:03:08,155 --> 00:03:13,058 where if he doesn't have it, he shakes and trembles. 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,161 From a medical standpoint, he can't be without it. 54 00:03:16,263 --> 00:03:19,565 Aubre: He's very skinny now from what he used to be 55 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:21,600 and he's becoming frail. 56 00:03:21,702 --> 00:03:25,070 This one is this dinner plate from last night, where 57 00:03:25,172 --> 00:03:28,941 he did not eat his dinner. 58 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:31,043 Two or three bites out of this one. 59 00:03:31,145 --> 00:03:35,614 This is his dinner plate from the night before. 60 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:39,017 Our problem is just drink until whenever. 61 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:51,763 So you are feeling like you need a drink right now? 62 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:53,298 Yes, probably about 3 ounces. 63 00:03:56,804 --> 00:03:59,571 All right. 64 00:03:59,673 --> 00:04:04,042 So today I'm preparing a monitored amount 65 00:04:04,144 --> 00:04:08,814 of alcohol for jordan every three hours to keep him stable. 66 00:04:08,916 --> 00:04:13,952 Because last night, he drank so much that I was concerned 67 00:04:14,054 --> 00:04:15,887 he was going to have a stroke. 68 00:04:18,692 --> 00:04:22,194 I don't like myself doing this because phil 69 00:04:22,296 --> 00:04:25,197 and I don't allow drinking in our home. 70 00:04:25,299 --> 00:04:31,136 But when he is this dependent on alcohol, if he just quits, 71 00:04:31,238 --> 00:04:33,805 he will go into seizures. 72 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:35,841 And I can't handle that. 73 00:04:35,943 --> 00:04:40,078 So it's better than me seeing him in a state 74 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:45,150 where I would have to call 911 and get an ambulance 75 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:47,019 to come and intervene. 76 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:50,222 This is 3 ounces. 77 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:52,824 This is what we agreed on. 78 00:04:52,926 --> 00:04:55,294 I have enough to sustain you. 79 00:04:55,396 --> 00:04:56,261 Ok. 80 00:04:58,932 --> 00:05:01,099 I don't really like my mom being a bartender. 81 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:05,837 It's disgraceful to me. 82 00:05:05,939 --> 00:05:09,041 3 ounces of vodka every three hours, 83 00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:11,677 it's much less than I've drank in a long time. 84 00:05:11,779 --> 00:05:17,716 So there's going to come a point where, you know, 85 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:19,284 I'm going to have to have something. 86 00:05:22,189 --> 00:05:23,655 What happened last night? 87 00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:27,759 I said do not ever do that. 88 00:05:27,861 --> 00:05:29,061 If we need to, we will. 89 00:05:29,163 --> 00:05:31,029 You couldn't stand on your own two legs. 90 00:05:31,131 --> 00:05:32,898 We got you up. 91 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,533 You fell on the floor. 92 00:05:34,635 --> 00:05:36,068 You couldn't even crawl. 93 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:39,871 You couldn't put one hand in front of the other or a knee. 94 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:42,240 I don't think that's the case, but-- 95 00:05:42,343 --> 00:05:44,276 and your eyes were just rolling 96 00:05:44,378 --> 00:05:45,610 into the back of your head. 97 00:05:45,713 --> 00:05:46,712 I was probably tired. 98 00:05:46,814 --> 00:05:48,680 No, stop making that excuse. 99 00:05:48,782 --> 00:05:50,215 I am tired of hearing the excuse. 100 00:05:50,317 --> 00:05:51,016 Ok. 101 00:05:51,118 --> 00:05:52,217 I'm tired. 102 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:54,286 When I go overboard and drink too much, 103 00:05:54,388 --> 00:05:56,788 it's bits and pieces that you remember. 104 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:59,825 It's-- it's difficult sometimes because there's gaps, 105 00:05:59,927 --> 00:06:05,764 trying to put together things somebody has told you about. 106 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:08,533 You were so inebriated last night. 107 00:06:08,635 --> 00:06:13,772 You had dad and I extremely scared. 108 00:06:13,874 --> 00:06:15,674 And I'm still alive today. 109 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:19,911 Last night, you could not say mom. 110 00:06:20,013 --> 00:06:20,912 Well, that was last night. 111 00:06:21,014 --> 00:06:22,214 Look at me. 112 00:06:22,316 --> 00:06:25,784 It scared me, jordan. 113 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:27,119 Vincent: I don't think my parents 114 00:06:27,221 --> 00:06:28,387 should be responsible for babysitting 115 00:06:28,489 --> 00:06:29,921 rdan on a daily basis. 116 00:06:30,023 --> 00:06:30,956 I feel that jordan is being enabled 117 00:06:31,058 --> 00:06:33,792 and hasn't gotten any better. 118 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:36,862 Nothing's changed and I disagree with him being there. 119 00:06:43,137 --> 00:06:46,972 Jordan: Sometimes I drink without my parents seeing me 120 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:51,309 just because we need to continuously have a drink 121 00:06:51,412 --> 00:06:53,945 so that I can just feel better. 122 00:06:56,850 --> 00:07:04,723 Over a given day, I drink a bottle s vodka or tequila. 123 00:07:04,825 --> 00:07:09,594 I'll buy it and then drink half of it within about 30 seconds. 124 00:07:09,696 --> 00:07:13,765 And then progressively through the night, finish it off. 125 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,407 Sometimes I just hide it somewhere 126 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:26,411 because I respect them, so I'll adhere to what they wish. 127 00:07:30,717 --> 00:07:32,217 Lisa: I don't particularly like it 128 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,786 when jordan goes on a walk this late at night 129 00:07:34,888 --> 00:07:39,357 when it's dark out, because I know whenever he goes out 130 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:43,361 the door, day or night time, he doesn't make 131 00:07:43,464 --> 00:07:44,996 the most rational decisions. 132 00:07:45,098 --> 00:07:47,833 And I know he wanted to go somewhere where 133 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:50,302 he could buy some alcohol. 134 00:07:50,404 --> 00:07:53,772 And, you know, he's just drinking until he 135 00:07:53,874 --> 00:07:54,439 walks back in the door. 136 00:07:58,612 --> 00:08:02,314 Phil: And usually, jordan hides his booze down here. 137 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:05,884 Only one bottle. 138 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:08,854 Usually I look in there and there's several. 139 00:08:08,956 --> 00:08:10,455 Lisa: Jordan will hide the alcohol, 140 00:08:10,557 --> 00:08:16,328 and he will sneak upstairs to the bathroom and drink it. 141 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:20,799 This is a lot. 142 00:08:23,437 --> 00:08:25,437 Oh, goodness. 143 00:08:25,539 --> 00:08:28,773 All this stuff. 144 00:08:28,876 --> 00:08:31,610 We got some money to buy this, but we're 145 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:33,645 making this truck payments every month that we 146 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:36,748 have been for the last year. 147 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:37,883 Why he is home? 148 00:08:38,085 --> 00:08:40,919 I can encourage him to follow the plan that 149 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:42,888 I've set up for him, but jordan is 150 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:48,793 an adult so I cannot stop him. 151 00:08:48,896 --> 00:08:51,897 What a lot. 152 00:08:51,999 --> 00:08:55,500 [music playing] 153 00:08:59,006 --> 00:09:01,306 ken seeley: My name is ken seeley. 154 00:09:01,408 --> 00:09:03,775 I'm a certified case manager interventionist. 155 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:07,913 Today I'm meeting with jordan's siblings, aubreana and derek, 156 00:09:08,015 --> 00:09:11,583 to find out what it's been like in the last few months 157 00:09:11,685 --> 00:09:13,251 and how we ended up here. 158 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:14,519 [knock on door] 159 00:09:14,621 --> 00:09:15,954 hi. 160 00:09:16,056 --> 00:09:17,455 Hey, how's it going? 161 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:18,290 Derek, jordan's older brother. 162 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:19,291 Ken seeley: Nice to meet you. 163 00:09:25,432 --> 00:09:26,631 Tell me a little bit what's been going on. 164 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:30,669 I'm very happy that we're able to do this and hopefully get 165 00:09:30,771 --> 00:09:32,304 jordan the help that he needs. 166 00:09:32,406 --> 00:09:33,538 How bad has it been? 167 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,641 You know, he has to drink to pretty much stay alive now 168 00:09:36,743 --> 00:09:37,909 or otherwise he's shaking. 169 00:09:38,011 --> 00:09:40,378 He can't take care of himself anymore. 170 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,480 My mom kind of has to baby him now. 171 00:09:42,583 --> 00:09:44,482 A lot of people, they get addicted 172 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:46,418 because of some form of trauma. 173 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,788 So I wanted to find out what your childhood was like. 174 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:50,989 What was it like for him? 175 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,959 My parents, you know, raised us the best they could. 176 00:09:54,061 --> 00:09:59,264 We never, in childhood, like, really wanted for anything. 177 00:09:59,366 --> 00:10:01,933 We would go on vacations together as a family. 178 00:10:02,035 --> 00:10:04,536 We went to church every Sunday together as a family. 179 00:10:04,638 --> 00:10:07,238 We would all sit down together and have dinner as a family. 180 00:10:07,341 --> 00:10:09,007 Jordan is the one that's right below me, 181 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:10,408 so we would do everything together. 182 00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:14,613 We would go fishing and hunting with my dad and my grandpa. 183 00:10:14,715 --> 00:10:16,381 We went to the same school. 184 00:10:16,483 --> 00:10:17,782 We would dress alike. 185 00:10:17,884 --> 00:10:19,584 Twinning is what we kind of called it. 186 00:10:19,686 --> 00:10:21,586 I mean, we were absolutely best friends. 187 00:10:21,688 --> 00:10:23,521 So what was going on at 18? 188 00:10:23,624 --> 00:10:25,790 That's when he joined the army. 189 00:10:25,892 --> 00:10:28,026 Jordan: I joined the army because my grandfather 190 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:31,496 had done a lot of great work in the army. 191 00:10:31,598 --> 00:10:34,366 Just always wanted to follow in his footsteps. 192 00:10:34,468 --> 00:10:36,368 During my time in the army, I met my wife. 193 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:40,372 And overall, it was the best times of my life. 194 00:10:40,474 --> 00:10:43,675 I loved where I was working in the army. 195 00:10:43,777 --> 00:10:47,278 And then I loved building a life and a family. 196 00:10:47,381 --> 00:10:51,416 I have two daughters age 12 and six right now. 197 00:10:51,518 --> 00:10:56,755 I was 100% involved at any second that I could be. 198 00:10:56,857 --> 00:10:57,989 I changed diapers. 199 00:10:58,091 --> 00:11:01,359 I take them to school, fishing, everything 200 00:11:01,461 --> 00:11:02,060 you could do outdoors. 201 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:04,496 I was excited to be a dad. 202 00:11:04,598 --> 00:11:07,298 How was he like at family events with the kids? 203 00:11:07,401 --> 00:11:08,767 We would all, like, play badminton together and-- 204 00:11:08,869 --> 00:11:10,935 derek: Volunteer at the church. 205 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:11,736 Yeah. 206 00:11:11,938 --> 00:11:13,104 He was a really good father. 207 00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:16,775 In the military, was there any traumatic experiences there? 208 00:11:16,877 --> 00:11:17,942 Did he go overseas? 209 00:11:18,045 --> 00:11:19,244 Did he-- 210 00:11:19,346 --> 00:11:21,613 something happened for sure when he was in the army. 211 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:23,782 So when jordan was in the army, he went to fort benning 212 00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:26,918 for airborne school. 213 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:28,987 During a training event, he fell off one of the towers, 214 00:11:29,089 --> 00:11:32,023 and he injured his back, which resulted 215 00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:35,460 in him not successfully completing the course. 216 00:11:35,562 --> 00:11:36,628 Jordan: I served eight years in the army 217 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:40,465 before they medically discharged me because of it. 218 00:11:40,567 --> 00:11:44,269 It's absolutely very difficult because I have 219 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:45,970 had a great time in the army. 220 00:11:46,073 --> 00:11:49,274 So after I was honorably discharged from the military, 221 00:11:49,376 --> 00:11:51,943 I chose to go to nursing school so that I could 222 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:55,480 serve in a different capacity. 223 00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:58,550 During my job as an icu nurse, I love the fact 224 00:11:58,652 --> 00:12:00,752 that I can just help people on their worst 225 00:12:00,854 --> 00:12:02,821 day of their entire lives. 226 00:12:02,923 --> 00:12:04,789 Derek: It seemed like jordan and his family 227 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:06,224 were doing very well, taking care of his daughters, 228 00:12:06,326 --> 00:12:09,494 really living in the life that he had set out for. 229 00:12:09,596 --> 00:12:13,765 And then when he was 32, covid-19 came to the us. 230 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:17,902 The trauma, his experiences that build up. 231 00:12:18,004 --> 00:12:21,606 So did he ever talk to you guys about how it was 232 00:12:21,708 --> 00:12:23,675 working in icu during covid? 233 00:12:23,777 --> 00:12:24,909 It took a lot out of him. 234 00:12:25,011 --> 00:12:28,646 He was the last person that a lot of these people saw. 235 00:12:28,749 --> 00:12:31,583 And I just remember him saying that, you know, 236 00:12:31,685 --> 00:12:34,018 the amount of death that he was around was really hard for him. 237 00:12:34,121 --> 00:12:36,788 I think it was very shocking for jordan 238 00:12:40,393 --> 00:12:42,160 and I remember when jordan's drinking 239 00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:46,097 went from casual drinks to drinking on a day-to-day basis. 240 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:49,200 And it just seems like it's progressively gotten worse. 241 00:12:49,302 --> 00:12:51,836 He was telling me that he would stopnd get three bottles 242 00:12:51,938 --> 00:12:52,604 of wine and drink those on his way home 243 00:12:52,706 --> 00:12:54,472 just so he could go to sleep. 244 00:12:54,574 --> 00:12:58,042 That was his everyday routine. 245 00:12:58,145 --> 00:13:00,845 That was a period of time when it was very hopeless for him. 246 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:03,014 I saw the relationship between him and his wife deteriorate. 247 00:13:07,087 --> 00:13:10,355 Jordan: You lolot a th. 248 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:17,695 It's absolutely very demanding to deal with the trauma 249 00:13:17,798 --> 00:13:20,832 and distress and sadness. 250 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:23,034 And a lot of times, I would take extra shifts 251 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:26,037 and not be at home. 252 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:30,141 So then my drinking picked up more than it ever had. 253 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:32,677 And how long did he work in icu? 254 00:13:32,779 --> 00:13:34,312 Up until nine months ago. 255 00:13:34,414 --> 00:13:37,048 Jordan had gone to work, just got to work, 256 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,884 and his wife called him while he was there on the floor 257 00:13:39,986 --> 00:13:43,054 and told him that she wanted a divorce. 258 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:47,358 She just unloaded on him, saying, you're never home. 259 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:48,927 You know, you're drunk a lot. 260 00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:51,863 And all of the distress that created it 261 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:54,332 caused something to happen to him that particular night. 262 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:02,774 I can't really say that on camera? 263 00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:05,743 That's really what made him hit rock bottom. 264 00:14:05,846 --> 00:14:08,746 I think that's where it got really bad. 265 00:14:08,849 --> 00:14:09,881 What happened? 266 00:14:09,983 --> 00:14:14,652 He overdosed at a hospital that he was working at 267 00:14:14,754 --> 00:14:16,287 and clinically died. 268 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:27,732 What happened? 269 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:31,502 He overdosed at a hospital that he was working at 270 00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:35,139 and clinically died. 271 00:14:35,242 --> 00:14:38,476 [music playing] 272 00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:44,549 but after he overdosed, he was not 273 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:47,085 able to go back to the hospital that he was working at. 274 00:14:47,187 --> 00:14:50,355 I'm sure he's probably just stayed drunk the entire time 275 00:14:50,457 --> 00:14:52,323 to deal with it. 276 00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:53,458 And unfortunately now, he's been drinking 277 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,427 very hard alcohol as well. 278 00:14:56,529 --> 00:14:57,362 Drinks half a bottle of vodka. 279 00:14:57,464 --> 00:14:58,363 That's just-- 280 00:14:58,465 --> 00:14:59,898 that's his life right now? 281 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,300 Since-- since our brother died, our little brother aaron. 282 00:15:02,402 --> 00:15:04,936 No way. 283 00:15:05,038 --> 00:15:06,037 I'm so sorry. 284 00:15:06,139 --> 00:15:11,576 What happened? 285 00:15:11,678 --> 00:15:17,048 In October of '21, we lost our middle brother aaron. 286 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:18,983 How did he pass away? 287 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:22,020 The official report is that he died of suicide. 288 00:15:22,122 --> 00:15:23,588 Wow. 289 00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:25,623 How old was he? Aubre: 31. 290 00:15:25,725 --> 00:15:26,457 Derek: 31. 291 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:28,059 31? 292 00:15:28,161 --> 00:15:28,559 Oh, my god. 293 00:15:28,662 --> 00:15:29,027 I'm so sorry. 294 00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:35,266 So it has to be traumatic on him, my god, to-- 295 00:15:35,368 --> 00:15:38,336 I mean, talk about wanting to numb something out. 296 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:41,940 Jordan has called aubre at 4:00 in the morning her time. 297 00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:44,108 Insinuating about hurting himself. 298 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:45,276 Even though what just happened with your brother, 299 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:46,411 he still talks-- 300 00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:49,013 he's made comments before. 301 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:50,415 Wow. 302 00:15:50,517 --> 00:15:52,617 On top of all the loss in the covid icu, 303 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:56,387 he's going through trauma with his wife. 304 00:15:56,489 --> 00:16:02,260 And then now losing his brother is just piling on to his trauma 305 00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:04,929 and just making it so devastating 306 00:16:05,031 --> 00:16:07,999 that he just doesn't see a way out right now. 307 00:16:08,101 --> 00:16:10,201 If he doesn't get help, we will 308 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:11,936 be burying another brother, and my parents 309 00:16:12,038 --> 00:16:13,237 will be burying another child. 310 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:15,540 And then we'll probably be burying a mom right after that. 311 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:16,507 Wow. 312 00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:28,519 I hope jordan eats tonight because I am 313 00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:31,089 very, very worried about him. 314 00:16:34,294 --> 00:16:39,597 I'm very concerned about his nutritional health. 315 00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:43,201 The last time he ate a meal was four days ago, 316 00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:47,472 and I just see him slowly withering. 317 00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:48,973 Right, hand me your plate, please. 318 00:16:52,245 --> 00:16:53,411 You haven't eaten in days. 319 00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:56,347 So please eat. 320 00:16:56,449 --> 00:17:02,020 So in the last few days, I haven't eaten much. 321 00:17:02,122 --> 00:17:06,024 I would say alcohol took precedence over eating. 322 00:17:15,235 --> 00:17:17,668 You can't just undo this. 323 00:17:17,771 --> 00:17:19,637 I understand that, jordan. 324 00:17:19,739 --> 00:17:23,374 You can't just quit cold turkey or you're going to seize, 325 00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:26,310 go into seizures and die. 326 00:17:26,413 --> 00:17:28,479 But the last three weeks, it's gotten 327 00:17:28,581 --> 00:17:31,949 worse and worse and worse. 328 00:17:32,052 --> 00:17:32,817 I'm fine. 329 00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:35,153 I don't even want to eat right now. 330 00:17:35,255 --> 00:17:35,620 So let me wrap it-- 331 00:17:35,722 --> 00:17:37,188 wrap it up. 332 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,090 Wrap it up, put it in the fridge. 333 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:40,525 Ok. 334 00:17:40,627 --> 00:17:41,392 Don't worry about me. 335 00:17:41,494 --> 00:17:42,093 I'm fine. 336 00:17:42,195 --> 00:17:43,361 No, you're not fine. 337 00:17:43,463 --> 00:17:44,362 I'm fine. 338 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:54,439 Lisa: Jordan always just tells me I'm fine, I'm fine. 339 00:17:54,541 --> 00:17:59,143 He doesn't acknowledge how hurt that makes me because I 340 00:17:59,245 --> 00:18:02,146 see that he's not fine. 341 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:04,582 I don't think he wants to admit truly 342 00:18:04,684 --> 00:18:08,186 to himself how not well he is. 343 00:18:15,995 --> 00:18:17,528 I need to be outside. 344 00:18:17,630 --> 00:18:21,399 I'm not known as an indoors person at all. 345 00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:23,000 Oh, boy. 346 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:27,572 So whatever it takes to get me out of there and outside, 347 00:18:27,674 --> 00:18:28,539 I'll take it. 348 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:36,013 Lisa: It's very sad to see him in a state that he is. 349 00:18:41,754 --> 00:18:46,190 Very difficult as his mom because I want to fix him. 350 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,129 And I can't. 351 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:01,205 Jordan. 352 00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:04,208 Jordan! 353 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:05,943 Look at me. 354 00:19:06,045 --> 00:19:08,112 Jordan! 355 00:19:08,214 --> 00:19:09,747 Do I need to call an ambulance? 356 00:19:14,854 --> 00:19:16,888 [music playing] 357 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:23,294 jordan! 358 00:19:23,396 --> 00:19:26,797 Do I need to call an ambulance? 359 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:31,035 By the time night came around, he was so inebriated that phil 360 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:40,811 and I almost called 911. 361 00:19:40,914 --> 00:19:42,313 What do you want to eat with this? 362 00:19:45,151 --> 00:19:46,117 What's the option? 363 00:19:46,219 --> 00:19:48,786 Lisa: But he, so far today, is good. 364 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:49,987 He's talking. 365 00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:53,324 And so I'm trying metered drinking again and preparing 366 00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:55,059 to watch him today. 367 00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:56,961 First of all, how many ounces are we going to do? 368 00:19:57,063 --> 00:19:58,996 4. 369 00:19:59,098 --> 00:20:00,831 Start with 4. 370 00:20:00,934 --> 00:20:02,033 Start with 4? 371 00:20:02,135 --> 00:20:04,101 We'll start with 4 and then we'll do 3 the next time. 372 00:20:04,204 --> 00:20:06,103 All right. 373 00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:12,076 Losing one child has shattered my heart. 374 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:14,212 Stop. 375 00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:18,950 All right, that is 3 and 1/2, all right? 376 00:20:19,052 --> 00:20:20,151 And it is 12:15. 377 00:20:20,253 --> 00:20:23,321 We're going to also document the timing of this today. 378 00:20:23,423 --> 00:20:31,362 If I lost jordan, I don't know how 379 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,397 much longer I can keep living. 380 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:40,705 [phone ringing] 381 00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:41,872 daughter 1 (on phone): Hello. 382 00:20:41,975 --> 00:20:43,007 Hey, bubba. 383 00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:43,641 Daughter 1 (on phone): Hi. 384 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,209 What are you doing? 385 00:20:45,311 --> 00:20:47,912 Daughter 1 (on phone): I'm eating a popsicle. 386 00:20:48,014 --> 00:20:49,413 What flavor? 387 00:20:49,515 --> 00:20:51,249 Daughter 1 (on phone): Cherry. - Cherry? 388 00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:52,783 Daughter 1 (on phone): Mm-hmm. 389 00:20:52,885 --> 00:20:54,385 That's my girl. 390 00:20:54,487 --> 00:20:54,919 Daughter 2 (on phone): Hi, dad. 391 00:20:55,021 --> 00:20:56,687 Hey, baby. 392 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:57,455 How are you? 393 00:20:57,557 --> 00:20:58,723 Daughter 2 (on phone): I'm good. 394 00:20:58,825 --> 00:21:00,958 I talk to my daughters every single day. 395 00:21:04,063 --> 00:21:06,264 I can't see them, but at least I can speak with them. 396 00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:09,200 How was school today? 397 00:21:09,302 --> 00:21:10,668 Daughter 1 (on phone): It was ok. 398 00:21:10,770 --> 00:21:12,837 What did you make for lunch? 399 00:21:12,939 --> 00:21:17,008 Daughter 1 (on phone): I had a capri sun and a yogurt. 400 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:18,242 Jordan: The calls from my daughters 401 00:21:18,344 --> 00:21:22,146 are important because they need me and I wouldn't drink 402 00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:25,816 the amount that I'd do if I was with them, 403 00:21:25,918 --> 00:21:28,219 if I were able to see them. 404 00:21:28,321 --> 00:21:29,687 Well, I miss you guys so much. 405 00:21:29,789 --> 00:21:31,889 Daughter 1 (on phone): I miss you too. 406 00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:33,624 Daughter 2 (on phone): I miss you too. 407 00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:36,327 Jordan: Talk to you tomorrow, ok? 408 00:21:36,429 --> 00:21:37,395 Daughter 1 (on phone): Ok. 409 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:38,329 All right, I love you. 410 00:21:38,431 --> 00:21:40,131 Daughter 1 (on phone): Love you too. 411 00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:40,831 Daughter 2 (on phone): Love you too. 412 00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:41,632 Love you, baby. 413 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:42,733 Bye. 414 00:21:42,835 --> 00:21:43,934 Daughter 2 (on phone): Bye. 415 00:21:47,073 --> 00:21:49,774 [sniffs] 416 00:22:01,754 --> 00:22:03,120 I just miss my kids. 417 00:22:06,959 --> 00:22:08,993 Talking to them is not enough. 418 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:11,829 I need to be with them. 419 00:22:18,237 --> 00:22:22,206 Lisa: Jordan has not seen his daughters for many months. 420 00:22:22,308 --> 00:22:25,676 His daughters live in north carolina with their mother. 421 00:22:25,778 --> 00:22:32,283 And he is heartbroken and shattered to the fact 422 00:22:32,385 --> 00:22:37,021 that he has not been able to be a hands-on father. 423 00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:42,793 He wants that relationship back with his daughters desperately. 424 00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:46,997 They're 2,000 miles away from me. 425 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:55,840 So breaking that line of connection is difficult. 426 00:22:55,942 --> 00:22:57,908 Phil: Jordan has, on several occasions, 427 00:22:58,010 --> 00:23:00,811 after he talks ts hter, he goes and drinks behind 428 00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:04,682 closed doors just to be able to function 429 00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:05,916 to calm his nerves down. 430 00:23:09,655 --> 00:23:13,691 Apparently, jordan is extremely intoxicated 431 00:23:13,793 --> 00:23:14,859 when he talks to the girls. 432 00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:18,028 And I could see the anguish in just in his demeanor. 433 00:23:18,131 --> 00:23:20,131 He just feels hopeless and feels like there's 434 00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:22,266 no way of recovering his life. 435 00:23:25,605 --> 00:23:28,839 I knew that this controlled drinking for jordan 436 00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:32,676 was just a band-aid fix for his condition. 437 00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:37,415 I was kind of hoping it might last a little longer because it 438 00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,683 just gives us a little bit of reprieve from the chaos, 439 00:23:39,786 --> 00:23:44,388 but certainly no surprise that he's failed once again. 440 00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:48,926 And if he doesn't get help, you know, we may never see him 441 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:51,462 again, whether he dies or he just ends up out on the street 442 00:23:51,564 --> 00:23:52,630 somewhere wandering around. 443 00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,712 Jordan: My ex-wife and my brother 444 00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:11,348 passing away, I mean, it's a whole lot of things 445 00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:12,249 that brought me to this point. 446 00:24:15,555 --> 00:24:21,392 I was pulled away from my kids, the hospital that I worked at. 447 00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:28,632 I've lost everything. 448 00:24:36,175 --> 00:24:39,176 I know your dad couldn't come, right? 449 00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:43,347 Phil is not able to be with us right now because he got a call 450 00:24:43,449 --> 00:24:47,551 from his work to go from flying passengers 451 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:53,457 to flying 737 cargo jet, which is setting 452 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,759 us up for his retirement. 453 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,561 Something he's been waiting nearly 454 00:24:57,663 --> 00:24:59,230 three years to be accepted for. 455 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:00,531 Yeah, it's a hard decision, right? 456 00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:05,436 I know he wishes he could be here, but all of the siblings 457 00:25:05,538 --> 00:25:10,741 have flown out from their homes to be here for jordan. 458 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:13,177 There's a lot of ptsd, right? 459 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:14,512 There's a lot of trauma that he was dealing with. 460 00:25:14,614 --> 00:25:19,416 Coming home from work, you know, drinking three bottles of wine 461 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:20,651 to deal with all those deaths. 462 00:25:20,753 --> 00:25:23,487 I mean, I couldn't even imagine seeing that every day 463 00:25:23,589 --> 00:25:24,588 constantly. 464 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:26,490 And then in the middle of all that, 465 00:25:26,592 --> 00:25:30,194 losing his kids and his wife and losing his brother. 466 00:25:30,296 --> 00:25:32,129 And so it's like, piling and piling 467 00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:35,266 and piling and piling on top of them. 468 00:25:35,368 --> 00:25:36,534 And then you're all the way in another country, right? 469 00:25:36,636 --> 00:25:37,635 The furthest away. 470 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:39,570 Yes, I live in Italy. 471 00:25:39,672 --> 00:25:41,205 And how is it affecting you where 472 00:25:41,307 --> 00:25:42,740 you have to pick up the phone? 473 00:25:42,842 --> 00:25:45,743 I care more for him than I do myself in making sure that he's 474 00:25:45,845 --> 00:25:47,378 ok, because I don't know if it'll 475 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,412 be the last time I talk to him. 476 00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:50,314 Yeah. 477 00:25:50,416 --> 00:25:52,082 And, you know, it's affecting my mom. 478 00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:56,287 It's affecting my dad and causing them stress and chaos 479 00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:57,555 as well. 480 00:25:57,657 --> 00:26:01,559 It's the disease that's doing that because that's not-- 481 00:26:01,661 --> 00:26:02,760 it's still keeping you guys hostage. 482 00:26:02,862 --> 00:26:04,395 And it still is something that you have to deal with. 483 00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:05,229 It is. 484 00:26:05,331 --> 00:26:06,764 Addiction is a family disease. 485 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:08,532 If you're not taking care of you, 486 00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:10,501 you're never going to take care of him. 487 00:26:10,603 --> 00:26:13,103 You know, he's the one drinking himself to death, 488 00:26:13,205 --> 00:26:14,438 but you're the ones that are killing 489 00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:16,640 yourselves, worrying yourselves to death 490 00:26:16,742 --> 00:26:19,076 and trying to control it. 491 00:26:19,178 --> 00:26:24,048 Well, if I fix this, then we all have a better chance. 492 00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:25,082 Your dad's a pilot. 493 00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:27,151 What do they say when the oxygen happens? 494 00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:28,218 Who do you put it on first? 495 00:26:28,321 --> 00:26:29,553 Yourself before helping others. 496 00:26:29,655 --> 00:26:31,388 It's not healthy. 497 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:32,456 It's not one for the other. 498 00:26:32,558 --> 00:26:34,158 It's not an even exchange. - I know. 499 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:35,726 Ken seeley: You're not doing it for him. 500 00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,328 There's a saying in recovery, like, 501 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:41,365 codependency kills more addicts than addiction itself. 502 00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:45,769 Because every single addict has to hit a rock bottom. 503 00:26:45,871 --> 00:26:48,072 But when the co-dependency is there, 504 00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:52,109 you're putting this huge cushion underneath that rock bottom. 505 00:26:52,211 --> 00:26:54,345 And you're letting them stay comfortable. 506 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:55,779 It never gets painful. 507 00:26:55,881 --> 00:26:56,847 Absolutely. 508 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:58,782 Ken seeley: And until he hits that rock bottom 509 00:26:58,884 --> 00:27:01,719 and it's painful, he's never going to stop. 510 00:27:01,821 --> 00:27:02,753 Vincent: We all look at this opportunity tomorrow 511 00:27:02,855 --> 00:27:06,490 is the end of many years of suffering 512 00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:08,158 and all the issues he's brought us. 513 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:10,594 So if he turns down this opportunity, 514 00:27:10,696 --> 00:27:11,829 it's going to be devastating. 515 00:27:11,931 --> 00:27:15,599 And we just hope and pray that he goes, because if not, 516 00:27:15,701 --> 00:27:17,267 nobody knows what else to do for him. 517 00:27:17,370 --> 00:27:21,472 He has no other alternatives besides jail or death. 518 00:27:21,574 --> 00:27:23,307 What are the things that we could 519 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:28,278 raise that rock bottom with to be motivated to want to change? 520 00:27:28,381 --> 00:27:29,346 His kids. 521 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:30,447 They're already gone. 522 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:32,650 But you could point it out as it would be more-- 523 00:27:32,752 --> 00:27:39,189 if you don't go, your children will be taken away-- 524 00:27:39,291 --> 00:27:40,157 for good. 525 00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:41,392 For good. 526 00:27:41,494 --> 00:27:43,093 You have no chance of getting custody. 527 00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:48,732 If you don't go, you will lose your nursing 528 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:51,602 license permanently. 529 00:27:51,704 --> 00:27:53,270 Those are really good ones. 530 00:27:53,372 --> 00:27:54,505 I'm going to sell his truck. 531 00:27:54,607 --> 00:27:55,372 There you go. That's perfect. 532 00:27:55,474 --> 00:27:56,473 Ok. 533 00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:58,142 Dad's going to sell his motorcycle. 534 00:27:58,244 --> 00:27:59,710 So he won't have those. 535 00:27:59,812 --> 00:28:04,448 And with jordan, I think the positives, if you go, 536 00:28:04,550 --> 00:28:09,687 there are people that can help you with keeping 537 00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:12,823 his nursing license active. 538 00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:13,657 And custody of the kids. 539 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,326 He could get joint custody. 540 00:28:16,429 --> 00:28:17,061 And there's so much that he could 541 00:28:17,163 --> 00:28:18,562 gain if he chooses recovery. 542 00:28:18,664 --> 00:28:21,498 If he chooses to go, yes. 543 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,700 And being at your house isn't helping him either. 544 00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:25,302 His behavior hasn't changed. 545 00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:28,238 I think the biggest issue lies within my parents. 546 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,673 My parents had told him in the past 547 00:28:29,775 --> 00:28:31,508 that he wasn't allowed to drink there. 548 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:33,343 If he did, he could be kicked out. 549 00:28:33,446 --> 00:28:34,712 And they've never done that. 550 00:28:34,814 --> 00:28:36,380 So I feel that by allowing him to stay 551 00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:39,650 there despite his actions, they're enabling him. 552 00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:41,452 If he chooses not to go tomorrow, 553 00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:43,420 are you going to let him back into the house? 554 00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:47,825 That's very good bottom line. 555 00:28:47,927 --> 00:28:51,495 That-- that-- that's-- 556 00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:55,432 I mean, like, I don't even want to go down that road. 557 00:28:55,534 --> 00:28:55,933 We have to. 558 00:28:56,035 --> 00:28:57,367 Lisa: I know. 559 00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:58,635 For the sake of the intervention. 560 00:28:58,738 --> 00:28:59,536 Is he going to stay at your house tomorrow 561 00:28:59,638 --> 00:29:03,640 night if he says no? 562 00:29:03,743 --> 00:29:10,114 I will have to somehow figure out how to tell him no, 563 00:29:10,216 --> 00:29:13,584 we wouldn't be able to be in the house. 564 00:29:13,686 --> 00:29:15,252 I don't know. 565 00:29:17,823 --> 00:29:19,490 One way or another if I would actually 566 00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:21,792 be able to kick him out. 567 00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:23,327 How do you do this to your child? 568 00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:25,362 How? 569 00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:29,600 And I'm hoping and praying that he says yes 570 00:29:29,702 --> 00:29:32,803 and I don't even have to put that in on the table. 571 00:29:39,545 --> 00:29:42,412 [music playing] 572 00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:51,522 I had jordan at home this morning. 573 00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:55,659 I was monitoring how much he was drinking so he wouldn't 574 00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:58,362 be too intoxicated today. 575 00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:00,964 I had to make sure he had enough alcohol within him 576 00:30:01,066 --> 00:30:05,502 so his brain wouldn't go into seizures. 577 00:30:05,604 --> 00:30:10,374 I've been worried all night long just thinking about what 578 00:30:10,476 --> 00:30:12,476 if he does not accept this. 579 00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:18,916 How am I going to tell my son that he can't come back home 580 00:30:19,018 --> 00:30:23,387 and sleep in my home with me? 581 00:30:23,489 --> 00:30:24,421 Jordan, we got to go. 582 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:28,992 We have an update? 583 00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:33,597 Perfect. 584 00:30:33,699 --> 00:30:35,432 So how are you guys feeling? - Unknown. 585 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:36,633 This is kind of unsettling. 586 00:30:36,735 --> 00:30:40,003 If jordan didn't go and my mom had to kick him out, 587 00:30:40,105 --> 00:30:42,573 I think my dad would have to leave his position he's 588 00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:45,275 training for because he wouldn't really be able to handle being 589 00:30:45,377 --> 00:30:47,911 so far away knowing that my mom was at home alone 590 00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:49,413 with jordan in that situation. 591 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:50,581 And that's a big fear. 592 00:30:50,683 --> 00:30:52,783 He finally got this opportunity after three years, 593 00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:54,484 and I would hate to see it go away for him. 594 00:30:54,587 --> 00:30:55,452 Yeah. 595 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:56,720 How are you feeling, jordan? 596 00:30:56,822 --> 00:30:58,956 I'm feeling ok. 597 00:30:59,058 --> 00:31:02,726 Right now, I'm not highly intoxicated by any means. 598 00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:04,294 And they just pulled up outside. 599 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:04,428 Thank you. 600 00:31:12,504 --> 00:31:13,837 Oh, my gosh. 601 00:31:13,939 --> 00:31:14,838 Feeling all right? 602 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:15,839 Yeah. 603 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:21,011 I can't feel my feet, but I'll be all right. 604 00:31:29,622 --> 00:31:29,653 Hi, jordan. 605 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:33,624 How you doing? 606 00:31:35,928 --> 00:31:36,660 Nice to meet you. 607 00:31:36,762 --> 00:31:37,628 You too. 608 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:38,028 Jordan. 609 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:38,528 Jordan. 610 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:43,934 When did you get here? 611 00:31:44,036 --> 00:31:45,936 A couple of days ago. 612 00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:48,005 So I had the opportunity sitting down with your family 613 00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:51,041 and plan an intervention for you. 614 00:31:51,143 --> 00:31:53,677 They just put together some thoughts, 615 00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:55,412 and they just wrote them down if it's 616 00:31:55,514 --> 00:31:56,580 ok if they could share them. 617 00:31:56,682 --> 00:31:58,715 Hopefully, a great opportunity for you, but that's 618 00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:00,584 all up to you. 619 00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:04,121 I'm willing to listen, yeah. 620 00:32:04,223 --> 00:32:06,623 So, vincent, you want to start? 621 00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:09,293 Jordan. 622 00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:12,829 I think about when I was young go into your army 623 00:32:12,932 --> 00:32:14,865 basic training graduation, and you inspired 624 00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:18,368 me to join the army as well. 625 00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:21,705 I remember back before falling into addiction how motivated, 626 00:32:21,807 --> 00:32:23,607 determined, and successful you were. 627 00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:26,443 I don't want you to continue down this terrible path that 628 00:32:26,545 --> 00:32:30,814 will ultimately lead to death or incarceration, if not changed. 629 00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:32,983 Derek, you want to go? 630 00:32:33,085 --> 00:32:36,019 Jordan, I'm here today because at one point in time, 631 00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:36,453 you were my best friend. 632 00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:45,629 Some of the best memories in my life were made with you. 633 00:32:45,731 --> 00:32:46,863 You and I have grown apart over time. 634 00:32:50,102 --> 00:32:53,637 Life has taken us on different paths as we had our families 635 00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:54,638 and work to provide for them. 636 00:32:57,409 --> 00:33:01,611 I deserve to have my brother back, and mom 637 00:33:01,714 --> 00:33:04,214 cannot bury another son. 638 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:05,816 Let's hear what your sister has to say. 639 00:33:05,918 --> 00:33:07,918 You want to read your letter? 640 00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:09,252 Jordan, one of my favorite memories 641 00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:11,822 is when I turned eight or nine and I 642 00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:13,357 decided I didn't want to grow up and I 643 00:33:13,459 --> 00:33:15,392 wanted to be a baby again. 644 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,295 Everyone thought I was bizarre and made me feel wrong. 645 00:33:18,397 --> 00:33:20,530 You saw that I was hurt by that and went out to buy 646 00:33:20,632 --> 00:33:22,899 me a pacifier and a blanket. 647 00:33:23,002 --> 00:33:27,237 You made me feel happy again on my birthday. 648 00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:29,272 That's when I knew you were truly a good person that 649 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:31,608 had a caring and tender heart. 650 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,443 Getting your call when you would overdose 651 00:33:33,545 --> 00:33:36,380 was one of the most painful phone calls I have had. 652 00:33:36,482 --> 00:33:38,382 Because of that, I put myself through hours 653 00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:39,816 of your drunken phone calls almost 654 00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:41,918 in tears on the other end. 655 00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:44,354 I'm fearful every day we will have to bury another brother. 656 00:33:44,456 --> 00:33:45,989 Your daughters will grow up without a father, 657 00:33:46,091 --> 00:33:49,426 and mom and dad will lose another son. 658 00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:50,761 We are pleading with you that you 659 00:33:50,863 --> 00:33:54,297 get the help you deserve and take control of your life back. 660 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,332 Will you accept this once-in-a-lifetime 661 00:33:55,434 --> 00:33:58,435 opportunity to save yourself and our family? 662 00:34:00,472 --> 00:34:04,341 So, mom, you want to read your letter? 663 00:34:04,443 --> 00:34:06,510 Jordan. 664 00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:11,381 I am here today because I love you. 665 00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:16,887 I remember your childhood, and it makes me smile. 666 00:34:16,989 --> 00:34:23,593 And then you became a father, an absolutely great dad. 667 00:34:23,695 --> 00:34:28,999 Sadly, ever since the alcohol has taken you over, 668 00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:34,237 it has compromised your relationships 669 00:34:34,339 --> 00:34:35,405 with your precious girls. 670 00:34:38,377 --> 00:34:42,245 And it stole your nursing career and caused so much 671 00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:46,716 stress and worry on dad and I. 672 00:34:46,819 --> 00:34:51,855 Every day I fear that I'm going to go check on you 673 00:34:51,957 --> 00:34:53,090 and that you'll be dead. 674 00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:58,929 Jordan, I don't want to live this way anymore. 675 00:34:59,031 --> 00:35:04,868 Now you need to be here for yourself too. 676 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:06,803 [sobbing] 677 00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:07,938 they're all here because they love you. 678 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,340 And they're all worried about you 679 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,843 because they already lost one sibling. 680 00:35:12,945 --> 00:35:14,945 They can't lose you. 681 00:35:15,047 --> 00:35:15,879 And they won't. 682 00:35:15,981 --> 00:35:18,815 Well, they're pretty close to it. 683 00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:21,618 I'm very self sufficient. 684 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:22,886 There are two little girls right now 685 00:35:22,988 --> 00:35:24,221 that do not have a dad. 686 00:35:24,323 --> 00:35:26,389 Lisa: Your family needs you. 687 00:35:26,492 --> 00:35:27,958 Right now, it's pretty critical. 688 00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:31,695 Like, you, you are so close to death. 689 00:35:31,797 --> 00:35:33,830 It's a realistic fear of not knowing 690 00:35:33,932 --> 00:35:34,364 if you're going to be alive. 691 00:35:40,939 --> 00:35:44,508 [music playing] 692 00:35:47,779 --> 00:35:49,613 you are so close to death. 693 00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:52,015 Your mom said she was going to call the ambulance 694 00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:52,916 because you couldn't come to. 695 00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:55,452 I mean, that's pretty close. 696 00:35:55,554 --> 00:35:56,453 Your organs-- you know. 697 00:35:56,555 --> 00:35:57,454 You're a nurse. 698 00:35:57,556 --> 00:36:00,323 Your organs can't handle much more of this. 699 00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:04,027 The girls are, like, the highlight of your life, 700 00:36:04,129 --> 00:36:07,497 but with your drinking and the way everything's 701 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:08,732 been going over the last nine months, 702 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:12,335 you haven't had the fire, the motivation, the resources 703 00:36:12,437 --> 00:36:14,804 to fight for them the way that you have to 704 00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:18,742 in order to be their dad again daily in their life. 705 00:36:18,844 --> 00:36:20,877 I fought several times. 706 00:36:20,979 --> 00:36:21,478 Yes. 707 00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:23,446 I was defeated. 708 00:36:23,549 --> 00:36:24,648 You haven't been defeated. 709 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:25,749 It's not too late. 710 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:27,083 You have to get the help, though. 711 00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:30,687 And then you have to accept the help to take to the court. 712 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:34,691 We found a treatment center in texas, warriors heart. 713 00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:38,562 And it's for vets and first responders. 714 00:36:38,664 --> 00:36:40,363 And one of the common things that I heard 715 00:36:40,465 --> 00:36:44,100 is that therapy doesn't work for you. 716 00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:47,971 Typically, yeah, because when people 717 00:36:48,073 --> 00:36:52,108 ask me how you're feeling, I can't really tell you. 718 00:36:52,211 --> 00:36:53,476 Like, I don't have feelings. 719 00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:59,783 And that's why we found this place because there's going 720 00:36:59,885 --> 00:37:03,587 to be a lot of people that came in with the same mentality, 721 00:37:03,689 --> 00:37:07,324 that I don't have feelings because I numb my feelings. 722 00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,826 I put my feelings aside to protect others. 723 00:37:09,928 --> 00:37:13,096 That's a first responder. 724 00:37:13,198 --> 00:37:14,864 That's what you've been doing all these years 725 00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:16,333 and especially during covid. 726 00:37:16,435 --> 00:37:19,069 All that trauma watching those people 727 00:37:19,171 --> 00:37:21,972 die when you're trained to save their life and you can't. 728 00:37:24,843 --> 00:37:26,910 So that's what our hope is. 729 00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:28,545 I mean, everybody flew in here for this. 730 00:37:28,647 --> 00:37:30,413 So your sister came all the way from Italy. 731 00:37:30,515 --> 00:37:31,715 You want to answer a question? 732 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,686 If you are willing to go to warriors heart right now. 733 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,026 I won't have any of my stuff. 734 00:37:43,128 --> 00:37:44,794 We have your bags packed. 735 00:37:44,896 --> 00:37:46,830 Is there a flight booked? 736 00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:48,398 Yeah. 737 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:52,769 Lisa: It's all you have to do is say yes, I want to get well. 738 00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:54,504 Derek: Anything that you need, mama mail 739 00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:55,538 you will make sure you get. 740 00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:57,574 And as soon as you get on that airplane, 741 00:37:57,676 --> 00:37:59,309 I'm going to call the facility. 742 00:37:59,411 --> 00:38:00,910 And they're going to call the courts, 743 00:38:01,013 --> 00:38:02,712 and they're going to get everything arranged. 744 00:38:02,814 --> 00:38:06,016 So they will start that process for you 745 00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:07,550 to be getting your girls back. 746 00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:10,620 All right, fine. 747 00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:11,154 Ken seeley: Good. 748 00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:12,956 Give him a hug. 749 00:38:16,161 --> 00:38:17,560 Aubre: I just really hope and pray 750 00:38:17,663 --> 00:38:21,464 that he is able to form the connection with his daughters 751 00:38:21,566 --> 00:38:24,367 that he used to have, if not a better one, 752 00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:27,537 and be the father that they need. 753 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:28,838 Son, I love you. 754 00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:31,341 I love you. 755 00:38:31,443 --> 00:38:32,809 All right? 756 00:38:32,911 --> 00:38:37,113 I hope in treatment, jordan can get deep within himself. 757 00:38:37,215 --> 00:38:40,350 And when he does, he will be able to get 758 00:38:40,452 --> 00:38:43,353 the healing that he needs and be able to take 759 00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:44,821 that and help others. 760 00:38:44,923 --> 00:38:46,956 Guys, you've been great. 761 00:38:50,462 --> 00:38:50,960 Love you. 762 00:38:51,063 --> 00:38:51,628 Love you, jordan. 763 00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:52,929 Proud of you, jordan. 764 00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:53,930 We love you. 765 00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:00,370 You're not going to have to bury another son. 766 00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:02,972 We don't have to bury another brother. 767 00:39:03,075 --> 00:39:06,743 Dad, jordan's off to treatment. 768 00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:07,944 Phil (on phone): Oh, that's good. 769 00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:09,546 Thank god. 770 00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:13,917 Definitely a miracle and the answer to our prayers with him. 771 00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:17,554 [music playing] 772 00:39:31,570 --> 00:39:35,672 jordan: The withdrawal symptoms are coming back at this point. 773 00:39:35,774 --> 00:39:37,507 Ken seeley: Jordan is in a really bad place right now, 774 00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:41,678 and he could die from stopping drinking alcohol. 775 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:44,581 It's so important that we get him the medical attention 776 00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:47,951 that he needs so he could get through the withdrawals 777 00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:49,819 and get into recovery. 778 00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:50,653 Jordan. 779 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:54,958 You're good, brother. 780 00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:55,759 It's just me, man. 781 00:39:55,861 --> 00:39:58,862 We're here to help you out. 782 00:39:58,964 --> 00:40:00,997 Jordan came in hot, you know. 783 00:40:01,099 --> 00:40:02,665 A lot of our guys do. 784 00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:03,900 They're scared. 785 00:40:04,002 --> 00:40:05,402 They're embarrassed. 786 00:40:05,504 --> 00:40:06,669 They're in shame. 787 00:40:06,772 --> 00:40:09,773 So it takes a lot of guts to walk through the front door 788 00:40:09,875 --> 00:40:10,840 here at warriors heart. 789 00:40:10,942 --> 00:40:11,908 I'm going to get some vitals on you, ok? 790 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:14,944 Jordan, welcome home. 791 00:40:15,046 --> 00:40:16,713 Welcome to warriors heart. 792 00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:18,648 This is our detox level of care. 793 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,717 And then after that, your training begins. 794 00:40:20,819 --> 00:40:21,484 Training? 795 00:40:21,586 --> 00:40:22,685 That's what we call it. 796 00:40:25,023 --> 00:40:25,889 We got you. 797 00:40:25,991 --> 00:40:26,990 It's like the army, brother. 798 00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:28,825 Can you spot your name? 799 00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,827 Look, "welcome home, jordan." 800 00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:32,729 they go hard. 801 00:40:36,501 --> 00:40:39,836 [music pla] 802 00:40:43,041 --> 00:40:44,774 feels great to be sober right now. 803 00:40:44,876 --> 00:40:46,342 Physically feeling great. 804 00:40:46,445 --> 00:40:49,879 Mentally, a lot of that clarity is coming back. 805 00:40:49,981 --> 00:40:52,549 So we have a lot of different coping strategies, group 806 00:40:52,651 --> 00:40:57,821 therapy sessions, process groups, and one-on-one sessions 807 00:40:57,923 --> 00:40:59,255 with your individual therapist. 808 00:40:59,357 --> 00:41:01,357 I do a different project there, woodshop, 809 00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:06,763 canine facility, where you can train service dogs 810 00:41:06,865 --> 00:41:08,665 and bring them home. 811 00:41:08,767 --> 00:41:10,934 Looking forward to getting back into the hospital 812 00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:14,237 working as a nurse in the icu and be with my kids. 813 00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:16,973 We facetime every day. 814 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:17,941 I definitely miss them. 815 00:41:18,043 --> 00:41:19,909 But being able to see their faces 816 00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:22,545 and hear their voices every day, it's 817 00:41:22,647 --> 00:41:24,414 just an inspiration and motivation 818 00:41:24,516 --> 00:41:29,252 to keep moving forward and doing the next best thing. 819 00:41:29,354 --> 00:41:31,387 [music playing]