1 00:00:05,506 --> 00:00:08,174 Previously on Criminal Minds: Evolution... 2 00:00:08,175 --> 00:00:10,426 Brian Garrity is a tinfoil-hat-wearing truther. 3 00:00:10,427 --> 00:00:14,222 FBI fabricated a manhunt to cover up the assassination 4 00:00:14,223 --> 00:00:16,933 of Deputy Director Douglas Bailey. 5 00:00:16,934 --> 00:00:21,229 Do you have any idea how many rabbit holes Brian Garrity has been down in his life? 6 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:23,815 The moon landing, the Kennedy assassination. 7 00:00:24,316 --> 00:00:27,236 Guards say you're talking to yourself. Anything I should know about? 8 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:32,741 Go ahead. She'll believe you. 9 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:36,494 Your subconscious is fighting urges to kill, 10 00:00:36,495 --> 00:00:41,458 which is why I'm distracting you. You talking to me is how you cope. 11 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:45,753 Families of some of your victims have reached out and they want to meet you. 12 00:00:45,754 --> 00:00:47,838 Most are looking for an accountability 13 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:49,591 that doesn't always come with a conviction. 14 00:00:50,342 --> 00:00:53,844 You think if I walk you through everything, 15 00:00:53,845 --> 00:00:55,888 you'll be able to stop someone else. 16 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:56,973 For the sake of others, 17 00:00:56,974 --> 00:00:59,643 I can't just let you sit in here and not tell your story. 18 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:01,769 Problem is, 19 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:06,065 while we're sitting here talking about it, someone new is out there doing it. 20 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,484 You just don't know it yet. 21 00:01:17,411 --> 00:01:19,246 Open up. Police. 22 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:25,001 What's his name again? 23 00:01:25,002 --> 00:01:26,003 Al Smith. 24 00:01:27,045 --> 00:01:29,631 Mr. Smith. Metro PD. 25 00:01:32,634 --> 00:01:33,759 You're sure he's home? 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,389 I think so. I saw him three days ago. He's off. 27 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:40,183 I-I need more than he's off. 28 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:42,727 He's not picking up his mail. 29 00:01:42,728 --> 00:01:47,232 He's not answering his phone. Other day, he couldn't even unlock his door. 30 00:01:47,899 --> 00:01:48,900 He's off. 31 00:02:02,414 --> 00:02:03,415 Mr. Smith! 32 00:02:05,417 --> 00:02:06,501 Anybody home? 33 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:09,421 We're entering to do a wellness check. 34 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:11,381 Sir? 35 00:02:12,674 --> 00:02:16,386 Are you alri... Hold up. Is that a gas leak? 36 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:18,846 Our ranges are ancient. 37 00:02:18,847 --> 00:02:21,141 Oh, no! Did he suffocate? 38 00:02:28,732 --> 00:02:30,025 Oh! 39 00:02:31,526 --> 00:02:33,028 Hey, stop! 40 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:36,739 Whoa, stop! Stop! What the fuck are you doing? 41 00:02:39,076 --> 00:02:41,994 Hey! What the fuck are you doing? Stop! You don't need to do this! 42 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:45,874 - Al, no. Stop! - You don't need to do this! No! 43 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:52,899 I'm sorry. 44 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:16,923 Harlan Ellison wrote, "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream." 45 00:04:30,061 --> 00:04:33,732 Fuck! 46 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:52,709 Fuck. 47 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:04,763 Get it together. 48 00:05:41,508 --> 00:05:42,884 {\an8}- Where is he? - He's right there. 49 00:05:43,552 --> 00:05:46,429 {\an8}All right. Hey, thank you. 50 00:05:46,930 --> 00:05:48,181 {\an8}But of course. 51 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:50,933 {\an8}What happened to your hand? 52 00:05:50,934 --> 00:05:52,352 {\an8}It's nothing. I'm okay. 53 00:05:58,692 --> 00:06:03,279 {\an8}Holy shit! They will let anybody up on the sixth floor now, huh? 54 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,199 {\an8}Well, they let your dumbass become a profiler, didn't they? 55 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:08,117 {\an8}How've you been, Tom? 56 00:06:08,118 --> 00:06:10,036 {\an8}- Good. And you? - Yeah? 57 00:06:10,537 --> 00:06:11,620 {\an8}I don't know. 58 00:06:11,621 --> 00:06:13,832 {\an8}Listen, I... I, uh, heard about... 59 00:06:14,833 --> 00:06:16,500 {\an8}Yeah, um... 60 00:06:16,501 --> 00:06:18,044 {\an8}I know. But I'm sorry. 61 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:23,173 {\an8}Seriously, what, uh... what are you doing up here? 62 00:06:23,174 --> 00:06:25,760 {\an8}Well, I'm here to see you. And hopefully your team. 63 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:28,054 - Is it bad? - It's weird. 64 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:32,516 Come on. You came to the right place. Let's go. 65 00:06:34,686 --> 00:06:37,938 Hi, Emily. SSA Prentiss. Agent Tyler Green. 66 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:39,148 Good to see you again, sir. 67 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:41,066 Oh, you've worked with Agent Green before? 68 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:44,403 Well, I helped Green get through his basic field training course. 69 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:46,363 Well, he didn't help so much as I survived. 70 00:06:46,364 --> 00:06:49,909 Agent Millikin kicked my ass. Me and all the new agent trainees. 71 00:06:49,910 --> 00:06:51,243 Is that how you met Luke? 72 00:06:51,244 --> 00:06:56,373 Oh, no. Alvez and I are retired army grunts. We met in the ARC program. 73 00:06:56,374 --> 00:06:58,542 The Army Recovery Care Program. 74 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:00,294 They do great work. 75 00:07:00,295 --> 00:07:03,464 We do. I'm proud to get to volunteer there. 76 00:07:03,465 --> 00:07:07,802 We help ill and injured service members reintegrate into civilian life. 77 00:07:08,845 --> 00:07:12,056 Matter of fact, that's why I'm knocking at your door. 78 00:07:12,057 --> 00:07:15,184 The BAU does equivocal death investigations, correct? 79 00:07:15,185 --> 00:07:16,810 Helping determine the manner of death, 80 00:07:16,811 --> 00:07:21,649 whether it's suicide, homicide or just an accident? 81 00:07:21,650 --> 00:07:23,776 That is correct. Do you have a case like that? 82 00:07:23,777 --> 00:07:25,654 Well. Luke, could you? 83 00:07:28,323 --> 00:07:29,699 This is Captain Al Smith. 84 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,370 Another friend of mine from ARC. He died yesterday morning. 85 00:07:34,371 --> 00:07:35,788 Cause of death? 86 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:38,290 Gas stove blew up in his face. 87 00:07:38,291 --> 00:07:40,834 All four ranges were turned all the way up. 88 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:44,254 Based on the explosion, they'd been that way for quite some time. 89 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:46,216 He had the matchbook in his hand. 90 00:07:46,925 --> 00:07:48,217 We can take the case. 91 00:07:48,218 --> 00:07:50,052 We'd start with a psychological autopsy, 92 00:07:50,053 --> 00:07:53,555 but I just don't think there's much for us to investigate here. 93 00:07:53,556 --> 00:07:56,684 I know. I know, and I know the numbers. Hell, I preach 'em. 94 00:07:56,685 --> 00:08:00,229 87% of all vets report exposure to at least one traumatic event, 95 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:02,607 and less than half get the treatment that they need. 96 00:08:03,191 --> 00:08:06,527 But that is not Al, okay? 97 00:08:06,528 --> 00:08:08,988 If you met him through ARC, what was he being treated for? 98 00:08:09,572 --> 00:08:12,700 Anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts. 99 00:08:12,701 --> 00:08:15,370 Which are indicators of PTSD. 100 00:08:18,581 --> 00:08:20,375 His pistol was in his gun safe. 101 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:23,669 I mean, he didn't blow his brains out, he blew himself up. 102 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:27,006 And he took a cop and a building superintendent with him. 103 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:30,592 It's odd. Even for PTSD. 104 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:31,886 Did you know him, Luke? 105 00:08:33,138 --> 00:08:34,139 I know the type. 106 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:41,061 And I know what scares me is... Let's say this is what it looks like. 107 00:08:41,062 --> 00:08:43,147 Sometimes it happens in clusters. 108 00:08:43,148 --> 00:08:45,607 You know, one of our guys punches his own ticket, 109 00:08:45,608 --> 00:08:48,277 and another one says, "Hey, that is a good idea." 110 00:08:48,278 --> 00:08:50,112 "Maybe I'll go out the same way." 111 00:08:50,113 --> 00:08:53,324 That's why I wanna take it. Find out why. 112 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:56,453 - Tyler, would you mind? - Not at all. 113 00:08:56,953 --> 00:08:59,247 Agent Prentiss, thank you. 114 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,259 Good morning. 115 00:09:12,177 --> 00:09:13,928 You got my email. 116 00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:16,181 What the hell is Voit up to? 117 00:09:16,806 --> 00:09:20,017 Tara is with him now, so is Rebecca to expedite. 118 00:09:20,018 --> 00:09:24,521 All he has to do is pick a family member and say, "Boo-hoo, I did it." 119 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:26,106 Just one family member. 120 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:28,401 And he is down to his final four. 121 00:09:29,277 --> 00:09:32,654 He's treating this like he is picking out a goddamn ring. 122 00:09:32,655 --> 00:09:36,784 He is trying to find the victim he killed with the least amount of violence 123 00:09:36,785 --> 00:09:41,163 because that will be the least upsetting to whomever he talks to. 124 00:09:41,164 --> 00:09:45,085 Yeah, well, someone should tell him it's always upsetting. 125 00:09:49,464 --> 00:09:51,340 Hey. Morning. 126 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:54,219 Oh. You too? 127 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:59,140 How many podcasts do you listen to? 128 00:09:59,641 --> 00:10:02,602 Um, I don't know. It's mostly news. Why? 129 00:10:03,311 --> 00:10:07,648 Well, Henry devours them. Specifically the one's on Voit, 130 00:10:07,649 --> 00:10:12,028 and it turns out that there's one that mentions me, you and the BAU. 131 00:10:12,904 --> 00:10:15,906 It's our case. It goes with the territory we'd be mentioned. 132 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:20,912 No, Emily. This one is made by someone you know. 133 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:23,623 Personally. 134 00:10:25,917 --> 00:10:27,251 Fu-- 135 00:10:29,587 --> 00:10:32,756 - Emily! Bella! - Come on. 136 00:10:32,757 --> 00:10:37,636 Oh... Oh, dear. I get it. I've made your job harder, haven't I? 137 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:40,973 But Emily, come on. The brass ring is right there! 138 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:43,100 All this time I've been barking up the wrong tree. 139 00:10:43,101 --> 00:10:45,394 I thought conspiracies were where it's at. 140 00:10:45,395 --> 00:10:50,274 Serial killers! Serial killers! My downloads are through the roof! 141 00:10:50,275 --> 00:10:54,653 And it's not just about the money. The money is very nice. 142 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:56,697 It's about the social capital. 143 00:10:56,698 --> 00:10:59,992 Emily. I'm trending. I've never trended before. 144 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,828 I've never had a hashtag catch on with more than three people, 145 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:04,329 and now I'm trending. 146 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:09,084 And, yes, of course, I may have taken one or two little liberties in the service 147 00:11:09,085 --> 00:11:10,753 of a greater story... 148 00:11:19,262 --> 00:11:20,929 Are you going to kill me? 149 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:24,183 No, because that's illegal. 150 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:28,270 And you have every right to produce a podcast that is nothing but lies. 151 00:11:28,271 --> 00:11:31,064 Excuse me? Not nothing. 152 00:11:31,065 --> 00:11:34,610 Did or did not Elias Voit call you dad? 153 00:11:34,611 --> 00:11:37,405 Because I paid an orderly a hefty sum for that intel. 154 00:11:40,074 --> 00:11:44,953 Which, when he said it, was more like, "Is that you, Dad?" 155 00:11:44,954 --> 00:11:49,583 And less like I had it on the pod, which was more "Oh, spank me, Daddy." 156 00:11:49,584 --> 00:11:51,627 Even that is not why you're here. 157 00:11:51,628 --> 00:11:57,174 You're here because you are claiming Voit is a serial killer that was trained 158 00:11:57,175 --> 00:12:01,512 by the BAU to be a Manchurian candidate. Which is... 159 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:06,683 It's horseshit. And you're gonna clean up the mess you've made. 160 00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:07,852 I can do that. 161 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:09,603 I can do that no problem. 162 00:12:09,604 --> 00:12:11,438 I'm wrapping up season one. 163 00:12:11,439 --> 00:12:16,443 I can put a cap on the season finale, and do a 180-degree pivot. 164 00:12:16,444 --> 00:12:20,030 That what we do in podcasting. We start out with one thesis, 165 00:12:20,031 --> 00:12:22,659 and then eventually you pivot to another one, right? 166 00:12:23,993 --> 00:12:28,455 To sell it though, I just need one little thing. 167 00:12:28,456 --> 00:12:29,457 What? 168 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:32,459 What no other Elias Voit podcast has. 169 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:35,379 I want an on-the-record interview with the white whale himself. 170 00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:37,631 - You can't possibly-- - Oh, come on. 171 00:12:37,632 --> 00:12:40,593 I mean white whale metaphorically. I'm not fat shaming the guy. 172 00:12:41,261 --> 00:12:44,012 Although, I did hear he's putting on lbs in prison. Confirm? Deny? 173 00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:45,264 No. 174 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:47,474 Okay, good for him. Keeping the weight off. 175 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:50,978 No to your request. That's not happening. 176 00:12:50,979 --> 00:12:54,816 Oh. That's really a shame. 177 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:57,985 I feel bad for you guys. 178 00:12:57,986 --> 00:13:01,739 'Cause I guess I'll just have to keep telling my story my way. 179 00:13:07,203 --> 00:13:08,579 Get out. 180 00:13:11,082 --> 00:13:13,626 Oh! Tell Tara I said hi. 181 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:30,685 I think this one. You... Wait. No, sorry. 182 00:13:34,522 --> 00:13:35,523 No. 183 00:13:37,442 --> 00:13:38,901 This one. Yeah. 184 00:13:39,902 --> 00:13:41,654 - Deena Ryan. - Mm-hmm. 185 00:13:42,196 --> 00:13:43,948 - You're sure? - Yeah. 186 00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:47,868 - Yeah, I'm sure. - Okay. Why her? 187 00:13:47,869 --> 00:13:50,704 What does it matter? 188 00:13:50,705 --> 00:13:52,998 It matters because it matters. 189 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,374 Before her mom comes in here, 190 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:57,294 we need to confirm that you're telling the whole truth about her daughter. 191 00:13:57,295 --> 00:14:00,173 Look, I strangled Deena. She died. That's the whole truth. 192 00:14:01,674 --> 00:14:04,052 That is not good enough, Elias. 193 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,554 Her mother's gonna wanna know why. 194 00:14:07,305 --> 00:14:12,392 Why you took her daughter. Where you took her. How you strangled her. 195 00:14:12,393 --> 00:14:13,394 Wait. 196 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:16,647 Wait, you're both wearing wedding rings. 197 00:14:18,316 --> 00:14:22,070 Oh, my God. You got married. That's amazing. Congrats. 198 00:14:22,737 --> 00:14:24,655 Focus. Please. 199 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:26,824 Yeah, sorry, um... 200 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:31,369 Look, I just hope it works out. 201 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:33,914 I mean, not I hope. It's gonna work out. It's gonna be great. 202 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:37,167 I just, I think-- especially everything we're going through right now. 203 00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:39,711 Getting married is kinda the ultimate act of optimism, so-- 204 00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:40,962 - Hey, hey, hey. - What? 205 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:43,549 We know you're getting divorced, but we've got a job to do. 206 00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:47,720 Right. Um, sure. All right. 207 00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:58,480 Tell you what. I'll coordinate with the Bureau of Prisons. 208 00:14:58,481 --> 00:15:00,857 We'll get Deena's mom put on your visitor list. 209 00:15:00,858 --> 00:15:02,359 Okay. 210 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,362 And I will review Deena's file. 211 00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:11,035 Just be honest with the mom, okay? 212 00:15:27,510 --> 00:15:31,221 Nice job. Dodging that question. 213 00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:35,433 Not telling them what you really did to that girl. 214 00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:38,603 I really don't want to tell them anything. 215 00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:40,439 Then why are you doing this? 216 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:45,694 You told me to. 217 00:15:45,695 --> 00:15:49,906 What good is having an angel on my shoulder if I don't listen to him? 218 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:53,869 Oh, that's adorable. 219 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:55,120 What is? 220 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:58,666 You think I'm the angel. 221 00:16:11,345 --> 00:16:12,512 Do you want me to, uh... 222 00:16:12,513 --> 00:16:14,098 Get started without me. I'll catch up. 223 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,281 How are you doing? 224 00:16:32,116 --> 00:16:33,117 Tired. 225 00:16:34,285 --> 00:16:35,286 I heard that. 226 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:42,000 I'm SSA Luke Alvez with the Bureau. I'm looking into Captain Smith's death. 227 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,711 Oh. Nice to meet you. 228 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:51,426 If, uh, you're here, I guess that means that... 229 00:16:51,427 --> 00:16:54,931 Yeah. He didn't have a family. 230 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,934 I've got to get him dressed and take him up to Arlington. 231 00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:07,568 Can I have a look? 232 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,780 Don't take it out of the bag. 233 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:22,041 Smith was EOD? 234 00:17:23,584 --> 00:17:24,585 Pardon? 235 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:29,423 Captain Smith was explosives ordnance disposal. 236 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:32,677 Um, I guess. Is that important? 237 00:17:35,137 --> 00:17:36,138 It might be. 238 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:43,354 Can I ask you something? 239 00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:45,064 Sure. 240 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:51,195 The way he died, is there gonna be enough for his dress blues? 241 00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:58,744 I don't know. 242 00:18:08,379 --> 00:18:11,923 Okay, so cause of death was trauma from the explosion. 243 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:14,593 If that didn't do it, the fourth-degree burns would've. 244 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:15,760 Was it instantaneous? 245 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:18,055 Yeah. The cop and the super weren't so lucky. 246 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:21,601 I know it might sound weird, but was his brain still intact? 247 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:23,311 You thinking PTSD? 248 00:18:24,145 --> 00:18:25,271 I'm thinking it, yeah. 249 00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:29,983 Well, there's definitely evidence of a traumatic brain injury 250 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:33,486 as a result of, you know, a small rocket exploding in Captain Smith's face, 251 00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:36,072 but when you're talking PTSD, 252 00:18:36,073 --> 00:18:38,950 the biggest giveaway postmortem is reduced hippocampal volume. 253 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,620 And his was perfectly sized. 254 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,454 So his brain was normal? 255 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:43,789 Mm, I didn't say that. 256 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:47,000 I saw something weird on the CT scan at first. 257 00:18:47,001 --> 00:18:49,253 It was so nuts, I performed an MRI to be sure. 258 00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:53,507 That is highly abnormal. 259 00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:59,096 - And it's not from the explosion? - Mm-mm. Too symmetrical. 260 00:19:00,181 --> 00:19:01,556 So what would cause that? 261 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:03,601 Not what. Who. 262 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:09,939 I'm sorry. I don't understand what I'm looking at here. 263 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:13,360 Those gashes between the lobes are evidence of an ice pick 264 00:19:13,361 --> 00:19:15,904 shoved up each nostril into his brain. 265 00:19:15,905 --> 00:19:17,615 Captain Smith was lobotomized. 266 00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:21,660 Wait, what? Why? 267 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:22,703 We don't know. 268 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,707 He would never. 269 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:30,001 We thought the same thing. And so we did some more digging, 270 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:34,173 and it turns out that this isn't the first time it's happened. 271 00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:39,302 This is Major Howard Newton. Last week, he disappeared. 272 00:19:39,303 --> 00:19:43,265 When police found him, he'd also been lobotomized. Recognize him? 273 00:19:44,141 --> 00:19:45,726 No. Should I? 274 00:19:46,811 --> 00:19:49,313 He was an advocate for Arlington Army Recovery Care. 275 00:19:50,606 --> 00:19:55,319 Tom, you thought this was about more than suicide, and you were right. 276 00:19:57,113 --> 00:19:58,614 This doesn't make any sense. 277 00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:01,700 All the ARC program does is help injured soldiers. 278 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,160 Why would somebody do this to us? 279 00:20:05,454 --> 00:20:09,625 Because he's hurt, and he wants them to feel his pain. 280 00:20:15,047 --> 00:20:16,799 You don't have to do this. 281 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:19,176 I can help you. 282 00:20:21,262 --> 00:20:23,681 I can make you feel better. I swear. 283 00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:28,144 No, no, no, no, no. What are you gonna do? 284 00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:30,688 This is better if you don't move. 285 00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:35,568 Just give me one more chance. I promise it'll work this time. 286 00:20:37,278 --> 00:20:38,279 Please! 287 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:41,574 No. 288 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:56,005 Y-Your daughter was very, um... 289 00:21:00,426 --> 00:21:02,803 I'm sorry. I... No, that's... 290 00:21:05,806 --> 00:21:07,808 That's what I wanna say, is I'm sorry. 291 00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:17,984 A-A-Are you comfortable? Do you need anything? Maybe like, water or-- 292 00:21:17,985 --> 00:21:18,986 No. 293 00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,786 You wanna take a swing at me? I could, uh... 294 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:30,748 Fight back, you can probably get a few in before anyone runs in here. 295 00:21:31,582 --> 00:21:32,708 That's not gonna happen. 296 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:34,835 I don't want that either. 297 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:39,548 Okay, well, w-w-what do you want? 298 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:48,516 I'm sorry. I mean... What do you want from me? 299 00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,355 I wanna tell you what I've learned. 300 00:21:55,898 --> 00:22:01,028 Because when your child dies, you learn everything. 301 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:05,157 You seek out every detail you can find to make it make sense. 302 00:22:07,618 --> 00:22:11,789 So I've learned how much pressure it takes to crush a larynx. 303 00:22:13,249 --> 00:22:15,251 14.3 kilograms, did you know that? 304 00:22:17,378 --> 00:22:19,964 - I did. - Of course you did. 305 00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:24,885 'Cause you learned it too. It was part of your training. 306 00:22:26,303 --> 00:22:27,387 What? 307 00:22:27,388 --> 00:22:30,431 Your training by this government agency. 308 00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:33,017 The very same agency, coincidentally, that caught you. 309 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:35,144 Because you went off the reservation, didn't you? 310 00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:38,314 - Ms. Ryan, that's completely unfounded-- - Wait, wait, what is she talking-- 311 00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:40,692 I'm sorry, I don't know-- Where did you hear that? 312 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:42,861 Don't tell me you don't know. 313 00:22:42,862 --> 00:22:48,032 You know! The whole world knows! It's in the podcast! 314 00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:49,201 What podcast? 315 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,161 What podcast? 316 00:22:51,996 --> 00:22:53,913 Look, calm down. 317 00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:58,418 There are a lot of podcasts out there telling bigger lies about you. 318 00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:00,003 This is how the algorithm works. 319 00:23:00,004 --> 00:23:03,089 I mean, sure, Brian Garrity's bad, but he's not even the worst one out there. 320 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:05,341 Yeah, but he is the most popular, right? 321 00:23:05,342 --> 00:23:07,176 And given your prior experience with him, 322 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,388 the most believable, thus the most dangerous. 323 00:23:09,972 --> 00:23:12,891 Dangerous? Jesus. Stop already. 324 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:14,058 Just tell me how I'm wrong. 325 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:19,314 Look, give a dipshit a megaphone, he's still too stupid to use it properly. 326 00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:22,901 Just let the guy have his 15 minutes and he'll go away. 327 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,777 What if my daughters hear it? 328 00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:27,947 Elias, your daughters already know everything. 329 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,033 A podcast is not gonna change their minds. 330 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:32,244 Okay, what if it changes someone else's? 331 00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:36,581 You know, someone could find this. They could interpret it wrong. 332 00:23:36,582 --> 00:23:39,209 They might identify with me. They might idolize me. 333 00:23:43,672 --> 00:23:46,341 You didn't control a network of people who would do anything 334 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:47,425 that you told them to do. 335 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,846 No, but we arrested all of them, remember? 336 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,598 The guy we're talking about is a troll. 337 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:55,934 What is the first thing that we learned about the Internet? 338 00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:57,560 You don't feed the trolls. 339 00:23:57,561 --> 00:24:01,482 No, that was the first lesson of the Internet before the troglodytes took over. 340 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,365 I-I wanna... I wanna set the record straight. 341 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:13,159 - How? - By going on his podcast. 342 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,911 No. 343 00:24:14,912 --> 00:24:18,957 How am I supposed to give anyone closure when everyone who comes in here 344 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:22,127 is believing these lies that this Garrity clown is telling them? 345 00:24:23,545 --> 00:24:26,089 I'll keep doing this, but how am I supposed to keep doing this 346 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:29,884 and subjugating myself to people if they don't even believe what I'm saying? 347 00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:32,763 I want to at least apologize for what I actually did. 348 00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:36,350 All right. Let's think this thing through. 349 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:41,688 You go on the record with Garrity, what happens? You get more attention. 350 00:24:41,689 --> 00:24:43,732 You give him more attention. 351 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,026 You're only gonna make the guy more popular. 352 00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:50,030 Yes. And that is why you are going to give him a list of conditions. 353 00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:53,367 Of course you have conditions. 354 00:24:56,829 --> 00:25:00,665 So I'm supposed to make a podcast happen? From prison? 355 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:02,792 It's-It's not live stream. It's a pretape. 356 00:25:02,793 --> 00:25:05,294 FBI and DOJ have complete control over the recording. 357 00:25:05,295 --> 00:25:07,463 Anything goes sideways, we seize the audio. 358 00:25:07,464 --> 00:25:09,966 And what are these conditions Voit's demanding? 359 00:25:09,967 --> 00:25:12,010 A backup recording provided by us. 360 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:15,346 Nothing high-tech. It could literally be like a voice memo on your phone. 361 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,181 - Why? - Insurance. 362 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:20,768 Voit wants to make sure Brian doesn't edit him out of context or misrepresent him. 363 00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:21,853 And if he does, 364 00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:25,107 Voit has the right to release the unedited audio to a rival podcast. 365 00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:28,401 We're just fine with all this? 366 00:25:28,402 --> 00:25:33,072 Well, am I happy to let a psychopath match wits with a deranged narcissist? 367 00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:34,157 No, I'm not. 368 00:25:34,158 --> 00:25:37,285 But if it gets rid of Garrity, I'm willing to roll the dice on a psychopath. 369 00:25:37,286 --> 00:25:39,954 Wait, I thought you profiled that Voit was no longer a psychopath. 370 00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:42,082 No, You're right. He's not. It's... 371 00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:46,628 When Brian Garrity is in my life... 372 00:25:47,963 --> 00:25:49,547 Have you ever had heartburn 373 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:55,470 where-where the acid reflux is so hot, 374 00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:58,932 it's like you can taste the hatred? 375 00:26:02,436 --> 00:26:06,230 Okay, The guards are gonna have to inspect all the audio equipment. 376 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:08,357 - Absolutely. - Okay, and no touching. None. 377 00:26:08,358 --> 00:26:09,776 Of course. 378 00:26:09,777 --> 00:26:10,902 Will Garrity say yes? 379 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:14,823 He already did. He had his own counter-conditions. 380 00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:18,368 Okay, now I'm feeling it. 381 00:26:18,994 --> 00:26:21,580 Come on. The prescription antacids are in my office. 382 00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:28,545 What do we got? 383 00:26:29,213 --> 00:26:30,421 Two victims, 384 00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:33,800 they're part of a program to help veterans recover physically and mentally. 385 00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,843 Unsub's targeting them but not killing them. 386 00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:41,225 {\an8}Well, then what is he-- Oh, shit, lobotomy. Never mind. 387 00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:44,560 Victimology's connected through the Army Recovery Care Program. 388 00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:47,021 So he could've been a part of it or rejected from it. 389 00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:49,273 And now, he's taking revenge. 390 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:51,818 Lucky for us, the US Army does keep meticulous records. 391 00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:55,696 Tyler, could you do me a solid? Vouch for me with Agent Millikin. 392 00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:57,949 'Cause then maybe I can get into ARC's files. 393 00:26:57,950 --> 00:27:01,078 Men in uniform either throw themselves at me or throw me out of their office. 394 00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:05,665 Hey, is everything okay with Luke? 395 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:07,793 Uh, yeah, I think so. Why? 396 00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:11,421 I don't know. Maybe it's nothing. He just seems a bit... 397 00:27:12,548 --> 00:27:16,009 See? That is why I always consult the oracle of Alvez. 398 00:27:16,885 --> 00:27:18,553 Penelope, is Luke okay? 399 00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:21,597 I don't know. I don't know! 400 00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:27,687 And if I did know, I wouldn't tell any of you, because I'm not a gossip. 401 00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:29,731 So let's get back to work. Skedaddle. 402 00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:41,827 It's not the outcome any of us wanted, but the tumor spread. 403 00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:44,329 There's nothing else we can do. 404 00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:49,751 What am I, uh... What can I do? 405 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:54,422 Well, we have a choice. If you want, I can discharge her, 406 00:27:54,423 --> 00:27:57,593 or we can keep her here. Keep her comfortable. 407 00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:03,223 How much time does she have? 408 00:28:04,725 --> 00:28:07,686 Luke, she's in a lot of pain. 409 00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:15,944 Hey. 410 00:28:17,905 --> 00:28:18,906 Hey. 411 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:24,536 Where's your head? 412 00:28:26,914 --> 00:28:27,915 This case. 413 00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:30,667 They're starting to notice. 414 00:28:32,586 --> 00:28:36,340 Okay. Uh... I'll get it together. 415 00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:39,133 And one more thing. 416 00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:42,219 Uh, Howard Newton, the first lobotomy victim, 417 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:43,472 his wife brought him in. 418 00:28:46,308 --> 00:28:47,309 All right. 419 00:28:49,311 --> 00:28:50,686 Are you up for this? 420 00:28:50,687 --> 00:28:52,105 I have to be. 421 00:29:01,031 --> 00:29:04,575 This was, let me think, about nine days go now. 422 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,203 I can't even make sense of it, really. 423 00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:09,830 He called me to tell me he was coming home, 424 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:11,249 but then he never came home. 425 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,460 And when did you call the police? 426 00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:15,670 Midnight that night. 427 00:29:15,671 --> 00:29:17,756 And when did they find your husband? 428 00:29:18,507 --> 00:29:20,050 They didn't. I did. 429 00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:26,138 When the sun came up and he was still gone, I started to just go crazy. 430 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:30,394 So I got my car and I drove around. I found him two blocks from our house. 431 00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:33,188 So whoever did this knew where you lived. 432 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:40,319 I suppose. Or maybe they let Howard go, and he recognized a few streets. 433 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,404 K-K-K-- 434 00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:46,033 Hey, hey, hey. I'm here. I'm here, honey. 435 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:50,455 Hey, honey. I'm here. 436 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:57,713 That's all he can say of my first name, Kimberly. 437 00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:04,760 Uh... Ms. Newton, we're trying to make a map 438 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:08,180 of where this man's finding his victims and where he might be leaving them. 439 00:30:08,181 --> 00:30:09,807 Do you think you could help us out? 440 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:12,893 I can try, but I don't know how much I'm gonna be able to give you, though. 441 00:30:12,894 --> 00:30:15,522 Okay, no. We-We appreciate that. 442 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,231 Uh, Luke, can you... 443 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,776 Yeah. Sure. I'll keep Major Newton company. 444 00:30:20,444 --> 00:30:21,445 Be right back. 445 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:32,080 K... 446 00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:36,876 No, you're wife, she'll be right back. She's just in the other room. 447 00:30:36,877 --> 00:30:37,960 K... 448 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:44,468 Do you need something? Hey. Hey, no! No. No! 449 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:50,890 - Kill me. Kill me. - No, man. Hey. No, man. 450 00:30:50,891 --> 00:30:52,933 Just hang on, okay? 451 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:54,436 Kill me. Kill me. 452 00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:59,815 Just hang on. It's all right. 453 00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:20,711 This victim's name is Theodore Nguyen. Lobotomized, catatonic like the others. 454 00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:23,798 He was found outside his own office. No cameras. 455 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,717 - Where was this? - Baltimore. 456 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,761 But there's no ARC program in Baltimore. 457 00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:32,473 That would track because Mr. Nguyen isn't associated with military at all. 458 00:31:32,474 --> 00:31:35,351 - He's an acupuncturist. - Acupuncturist? 459 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:37,561 Yeah. It surprised us too. 460 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:41,065 This guy is way outside of this unsub's victimology. 461 00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:44,193 Is there any overlap between acupuncture and ARC? 462 00:31:44,194 --> 00:31:48,239 No, none. We don't offer that as part of our services. 463 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,369 Acupuncturists treat pain, right? What did Nguyen specialize in? 464 00:31:53,411 --> 00:31:55,664 He advertised clinical therapies for headaches. 465 00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:57,832 What kind of headaches? Migraines? 466 00:31:57,833 --> 00:32:01,836 Yeah. In fact, he promoted his unique therapy for it. 467 00:32:01,837 --> 00:32:04,964 Well, if the unsub is suffering from that, it could be motivating him. 468 00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:07,299 You don't lobotomize somebody for headaches. 469 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,677 You might if the pain was bad enough. 470 00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:17,935 What do they call the ones that your friend suffered from? 471 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:19,061 Cluster headaches. 472 00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:23,566 They're so intense that they can cause temporary vision changes or s-- 473 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,485 And they can lead to anxiety and aggression. 474 00:32:27,571 --> 00:32:30,406 The pain is so bad that some patients call them "suicide headaches." 475 00:32:30,407 --> 00:32:34,702 Well, let's just say this unsub suffered an injury in-country and developed PTSD. 476 00:32:34,703 --> 00:32:38,330 At first, he would try to manage it himself, push it down. 477 00:32:38,331 --> 00:32:42,126 He'd push himself to the limit. He's a soldier, a warrior. 478 00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:44,713 Yeah. When that didn't work, he would self-flagellate. 479 00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:47,882 As in cut himself or whip himself? 480 00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:53,929 No. Tattoos. This guy has full sleeves, both arms, and probably his whole body. 481 00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:57,893 And they would be a marker of the pain that he's trying to outrun. 482 00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:03,147 And once he can't take it anymore, he comes to ARC for some sort of relief. 483 00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:04,231 He doesn't get it, 484 00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:06,775 so attacks the other vets that he comes into contact with for not helping. 485 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:09,403 Yeah, except Miss Garcia and I checked with ARC. 486 00:33:09,404 --> 00:33:11,822 Volunteer activity is regularly documented. 487 00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:15,202 And there's no overlap between our two victims in any one particular patient. 488 00:33:15,702 --> 00:33:17,661 Yeah, but if he wasn't evaluated correctly, 489 00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:18,996 there would be no record, right? 490 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:21,957 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's right. 491 00:33:21,958 --> 00:33:24,501 Then we need to talk to whoever the acupuncturist saw. 492 00:33:24,502 --> 00:33:26,295 He's the outlier in terms victimology, 493 00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:28,589 and we'll have the suspect list out of any veterans he treated. 494 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:30,090 Yeah, well, we need to move quick. 495 00:33:30,091 --> 00:33:32,427 It's only a matter of time before he gets another headache. 496 00:33:36,806 --> 00:33:37,974 Hey, explain something to me. 497 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:43,063 If they're called suicide headaches, why is this soldier going on the offense? 498 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,272 Because when you're a psychopath, 499 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:48,901 right before you kill someone, your brain get flooded with dopamine. 500 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:52,405 That would be the only chemical that would give him some relief. 501 00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:54,990 But he's not killing them. 502 00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:58,160 No. Because then their pain would be over. 503 00:33:58,161 --> 00:34:01,623 He wants them to feel like he does. Locked in. 504 00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:11,091 Test one, test one. Shibboleth. Shibboleth. 505 00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:12,968 Sure you're good with this? 506 00:34:14,302 --> 00:34:18,598 Test two, test two. Red leather, yellow leather. Red leather. 507 00:34:20,267 --> 00:34:24,019 For the record, this is a secondary recording of the Elias Voit 508 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:25,229 and Brian Garrity interview. 509 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:27,606 Mr. Garrity, do you consent to this recording? 510 00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:28,608 I do. 511 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:31,486 - All right. Let's bring him in. - Oh, wait. 512 00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:41,913 Okay. Now I'm ready. I'm gonna make BetterHelp my bitch after this. 513 00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:57,053 Wow. I mean, you are so short. 514 00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:01,015 Sorry, I just mean I... You know, I was expecting-- 515 00:35:01,016 --> 00:35:03,685 Save it for the episode. 516 00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:05,186 Okay. 517 00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:16,697 Welcome to The Sicarius Files: "Elias Voit: Man or Mystery?" 518 00:35:16,698 --> 00:35:18,700 I'm your host Brian Garrity. 519 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:22,703 Today's episode, truly amazing. 520 00:35:22,704 --> 00:35:27,208 My guest, the Sicarius killer himself, Elias Voit. 521 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,301 Hello. 522 00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:40,346 To set the scene for our listeners, 523 00:35:40,347 --> 00:35:42,349 - we are currently in the-- - No. You can't say where he is. 524 00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:45,143 Sorry. Right. Okay. 525 00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,812 We are currently in prison. 526 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:52,233 So, Elias. May I call you Elias? 527 00:35:57,072 --> 00:36:00,200 What is this? Hm? What is this? 528 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:01,784 Hm? 529 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:05,788 Please don't do that. It put the levels in the red. 530 00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:07,623 Oh, your levels are in the red? 531 00:36:07,624 --> 00:36:09,208 I'm sorry, you're spreading lies about me, 532 00:36:09,209 --> 00:36:11,044 and you're worried about your fucking levels? 533 00:36:18,134 --> 00:36:20,219 Okay. I'm turning this off right now. 534 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:26,226 No. No. You got yourself into this, little man. 535 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,143 There's no escaping now. 536 00:36:28,144 --> 00:36:30,313 What's... Are you gonna... 537 00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:33,607 - This was the deal. - We didn't approve the sign. 538 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,947 Look at me, Brian. Just look at me. 539 00:36:41,449 --> 00:36:44,994 Why are you telling your listeners that I was trained by the government? 540 00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:53,420 I'll tell you why. It's because it gives you an explanation for me. 541 00:36:54,963 --> 00:36:59,843 It makes me seem smaller. Do I seem small to you right now? 542 00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:02,637 - No. - I'm sorry, what? 543 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:10,812 No. Good. And your podcast, how much of it is actually true? 544 00:37:14,524 --> 00:37:19,236 None of it. Good. Good, very good. 545 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:23,449 Now, it's... It's my turn to explain myself to you. 546 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:26,745 And you're not far off. 547 00:37:27,954 --> 00:37:31,623 It takes a little man to be scared of someone banging on a table, 548 00:37:31,624 --> 00:37:35,754 but it takes a littler one to resort to it. 549 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:41,968 There's nothing romantic about me. 550 00:37:43,011 --> 00:37:45,429 I'm not brilliant. I'm not special. 551 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:49,934 I'm an antisocial psychopath who can only get his heart rate up by killing people. 552 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:54,105 It's sad how pathetic I am. But you know what's even more pathetic? 553 00:37:55,482 --> 00:38:01,112 Someone who makes a show about it. And anyone who listens to it. 554 00:38:05,575 --> 00:38:06,576 Now we're done. 555 00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:36,731 You knew that was gonna happen. You knew Voit was gonna do that. 556 00:38:37,857 --> 00:38:40,067 No, we told him no physical contact. 557 00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:44,197 But, yeah, I had a feeling he would have something up his sleeve. 558 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:49,576 Take it easy. 559 00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:53,038 I have to salvage the remains of my flaming career. 560 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,542 You betrayed me. I thought we were friends. 561 00:38:57,126 --> 00:38:58,210 Oh, Brian. 562 00:38:58,211 --> 00:39:01,421 There's something I've been wanting to say for the better part of six years. 563 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:03,340 We are not friends. 564 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,635 All you have ever done is make my life miserable, 565 00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:09,764 so my job is not to make your job easier. 566 00:39:12,225 --> 00:39:16,645 Well, how dare you? You are a public servant. 567 00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:19,983 To the public! Not to you personally! 568 00:39:20,483 --> 00:39:24,195 Oh, you have me siding with a convicted serial killer over you. 569 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:27,781 I don't know what I'm gonna do. 570 00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:29,992 When my audience hears this episode, 571 00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:32,579 they're gonna be furious at Voit's disdain for them. 572 00:39:34,706 --> 00:39:37,709 You don't have to post it. 573 00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:44,882 I already presold the advertising to a vegan-only meal kit delivery service. 574 00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:48,469 And if there's one group you don't wanna cross, it's Big Vegan. 575 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:56,394 Okay. So, what if you reframed it. I mean, maybe this is actually an opportunity. 576 00:39:58,021 --> 00:40:00,648 - What do you mean? - The podcast pivot. 577 00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:04,986 And didn't Voit just hand you one on a silver platter? 578 00:40:06,988 --> 00:40:09,324 Yeah. Yeah. 579 00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:18,499 An episode where I find out the serial killer is just a serial killer. 580 00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:22,712 Oh, that's good. You are brilliant. 581 00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:29,469 Okay, thank you, I guess. Hearing that from you means something. 582 00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:41,688 So, what, you decided to kill him after all? 583 00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:47,570 I did not, but our Elias Voit podcast problem has come to an end. 584 00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:58,372 Nobody on Nguyen's patient list comes close to the profile. 585 00:40:58,373 --> 00:41:00,582 But he did take a lot of walk-ins who paid with cash 586 00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:02,042 because they didn't have insurance. 587 00:41:02,043 --> 00:41:04,795 That's just like the ARC program, right? 588 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:08,799 I mean, this unsub is flying just under the radar when it comes to victimology. 589 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,842 Is there something about his headaches that we missed? 590 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:13,096 Some other condition that he might have? 591 00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:16,140 Luke. 592 00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:19,893 Hm? 593 00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:22,313 You got that thinking-but-not-saying-it look. 594 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:24,857 No. Go ahead. 595 00:41:28,361 --> 00:41:34,075 All right, what about this? What about chronic traumatic encephalopathy, CTE? 596 00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:36,410 Yeah, we are treating that more and more. 597 00:41:36,411 --> 00:41:39,288 Especially as we understand what concussions are doing to the brain. 598 00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:45,127 CTE has been known to lead to violence. I mean, not always, but, yeah, sometimes. 599 00:41:45,128 --> 00:41:47,879 And worst of all, it's like having a time bomb in your head. 600 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,507 Don't know you have it. You can't even diagnose it 601 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:51,634 until an autopsy. 602 00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:53,928 Do you think about that a lot? 603 00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:57,723 I mean, when you serve, 604 00:41:57,724 --> 00:42:00,392 you're always thinking about where the next hit's coming from. 605 00:42:00,393 --> 00:42:02,311 - Yeah. - Our guy probably thought about it. 606 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,566 And no matter where he goes, he can't seem to get anybody to give him 607 00:42:07,567 --> 00:42:09,777 a straight answer on why he's so angry all the time. 608 00:42:10,278 --> 00:42:13,031 And each time he gets angry, he loses more and more control. 609 00:42:13,781 --> 00:42:17,743 I mean, take Nguyen. He shoved that ice pick so far up in his brain tissue, 610 00:42:17,744 --> 00:42:19,537 it made contact with the tip of his skull. 611 00:42:21,247 --> 00:42:24,167 I'm sorry, but I need to know how you wanna proceed. 612 00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,964 - Okay. - Okay? 613 00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:38,221 I need to see her. Before we do anything, I need to see her... She awake? 614 00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:40,725 She's sleeping. But I can wake her up for you. 615 00:42:43,853 --> 00:42:45,021 Is this my fault? 616 00:42:46,689 --> 00:42:47,814 Is what your fault? 617 00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:52,027 If I would've brought her in sooner, maybe you would've found the tumor earlier. 618 00:42:52,028 --> 00:42:55,156 No. That's not how this works. 619 00:42:57,116 --> 00:43:02,080 No. No. That's not how this works. 620 00:43:03,873 --> 00:43:06,500 - What? - CTE, it's not how it works. 621 00:43:06,501 --> 00:43:08,586 - It's not how this unsub works. - How do you know that? 622 00:43:09,295 --> 00:43:13,673 The violence associated with CTE or cluster headaches, for that matter, 623 00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:17,552 it happens in bursts. It's disorganized, impulsive. 624 00:43:17,553 --> 00:43:22,349 Yeah, but this unsub is stalking his victims. He's kidnapping them. 625 00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:26,019 Right, and then subjecting them to sadistic torture. 626 00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,271 That's highly organized. 627 00:43:28,272 --> 00:43:29,940 You're saying he's not in pain at all? 628 00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:33,568 No, he is. The victimology tells us that. 629 00:43:33,569 --> 00:43:37,656 Then what has the same symptoms, matches cluster headaches or CTE but is neither? 630 00:43:37,657 --> 00:43:39,158 A tumor. 631 00:43:40,827 --> 00:43:43,995 - Like the Texas Tower shooter, uh... - Charles Whitman. 632 00:43:43,996 --> 00:43:47,791 Yes. He had a tumor pressing down on his amygdala. 633 00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:52,546 That's right. Before he started shooting, he stabbed his wife and mother to death. 634 00:43:52,547 --> 00:43:54,965 And in his suicide note, he wrote 635 00:43:54,966 --> 00:43:57,926 that knew there was something wrong inside his head. 636 00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:02,764 So this soldier came to us for treatment thinking he had a headache, but... 637 00:44:02,765 --> 00:44:05,309 But he had something worse. Much worse. 638 00:44:24,036 --> 00:44:26,038 - What the fuck? - Hello, Doc. 639 00:44:35,798 --> 00:44:39,426 Hey. Our unsub is Sergeant David Graham. 640 00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:40,719 Traffic cameras pinged him, 641 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:46,183 along with a passenger we've ID'd as neurologist Dr. Mark Trenk. 642 00:44:46,184 --> 00:44:48,894 All right, we have to assume that's our next victim. Anything else? 643 00:44:48,895 --> 00:44:51,646 Yeah, Graham bounced from ARC to the VA. 644 00:44:51,647 --> 00:44:55,192 CAT scan revealed a glioblastoma cluster in his prefrontal cortex. 645 00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:57,444 - Operable? - Yeah, but risky. 646 00:44:57,445 --> 00:44:59,614 As in it might get lobotomized risky. 647 00:45:00,156 --> 00:45:03,534 VA doc that I talked to said that Graham refused to accept the diagnosis. 648 00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:06,162 All right. Thanks. 649 00:45:08,623 --> 00:45:13,502 Alvez. We've lost too many men already. Copy? 650 00:45:14,462 --> 00:45:15,463 Copy. 651 00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:45,576 Where the fuck am I? 652 00:45:52,124 --> 00:45:53,125 David. 653 00:45:58,589 --> 00:45:59,590 You remember me. 654 00:46:03,552 --> 00:46:08,432 I didn't think you would. But I remember you. 655 00:46:10,184 --> 00:46:11,435 You know what I remember? 656 00:46:13,729 --> 00:46:16,983 "I can fix you." That's what you said. 657 00:46:17,817 --> 00:46:23,489 "I can fix you, David." But you can't, can you? 658 00:46:24,865 --> 00:46:27,535 I said that I can try to fix you. 659 00:46:28,369 --> 00:46:32,498 No, you said, "I can fix you." You lied. 660 00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:42,258 David. Your tumor is located inside the folds of your brain. 661 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:48,597 I-I would never lie to you. Not if I have integrity as a doctor. 662 00:46:49,724 --> 00:46:50,725 Integrity? 663 00:46:55,521 --> 00:46:58,232 You wanna talk about integrity? 664 00:47:11,954 --> 00:47:15,583 Let's go. Breach silently, follow our lead once we're inside. Let's go. 665 00:47:16,417 --> 00:47:17,793 How well do you know your Bible? 666 00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:28,137 Let me tell you what I've learned about integrity. 667 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:45,363 The men who trained me, you know what they drilled into me, huh? 668 00:47:46,906 --> 00:47:50,367 "Sergeant Graham, what is the NCO Creed, soldier?" 669 00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:54,079 "Sir, to never compromise my Integrity or my moral courage, sir." 670 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,081 "Soldier, what is integrity?" 671 00:47:56,082 --> 00:47:59,751 "Sir, integrity means you will do and say nothing that deceives others, sir." 672 00:47:59,752 --> 00:48:01,920 You have no integrity. 673 00:48:01,921 --> 00:48:04,547 "I can fix you." That's what you fucking said. 674 00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:06,633 Now it's my turn to fix you. 675 00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:11,513 "You need not fear the terror of the night or the arrow that flies by day. 676 00:48:11,514 --> 00:48:15,518 Though thousands fall about you, near you, shall not touch." 677 00:48:16,435 --> 00:48:18,020 You know that one, David? 678 00:48:20,022 --> 00:48:23,359 Us grunts used to pray that when we'd go out on patrol. 679 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:26,112 Psalm 91. 680 00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:29,657 That's right. Soldier's prayer. 681 00:48:32,076 --> 00:48:36,580 - You served? - Yeah, I did. So did my partner here. 682 00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:44,380 You know, I've been praying Psalm 91 a lot. Hasn't done much good. 683 00:48:45,965 --> 00:48:49,385 I know. I know how you feel. 684 00:48:56,642 --> 00:48:59,186 When I got back from my last tour, 685 00:49:01,689 --> 00:49:04,024 I was losing my shit all the time. 686 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,573 At one point, I even had my gun in my mouth. 687 00:49:12,324 --> 00:49:15,161 I know what that metal feels like against your teeth. 688 00:49:18,247 --> 00:49:19,623 I'm guessing you do too. 689 00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:23,544 Yeah, I do. 690 00:49:25,254 --> 00:49:27,798 But I realized it wouldn't make me feel any better. 691 00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:32,803 But this, this does. 692 00:49:33,888 --> 00:49:38,142 I know. I know. 693 00:49:40,853 --> 00:49:45,065 So how come you're where you are and I'm where I am? 694 00:49:49,278 --> 00:49:53,908 I went to ARC. I asked for help. 695 00:49:55,326 --> 00:49:56,327 I tried that. 696 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:00,581 I know. 697 00:50:03,751 --> 00:50:07,922 So what makes you so lucky, huh? What they do for you? 698 00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:13,260 They paired me up. 699 00:50:16,222 --> 00:50:18,349 Yeah? With who? 700 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:22,394 Someone I just lost. 701 00:50:34,323 --> 00:50:39,160 Hey. Hey. 702 00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,213 Well, let me ask you something. 703 00:50:50,005 --> 00:50:55,177 Does that even make a difference, you having a buddy? 704 00:50:57,513 --> 00:50:58,514 Yeah. 705 00:51:01,392 --> 00:51:05,479 Yeah, she made a difference. She made a big difference. 706 00:51:08,816 --> 00:51:12,987 So what the fuck now? You gonna be my buddy? 707 00:51:15,698 --> 00:51:18,200 You're gonna come visit me in prison after all this? 708 00:51:19,952 --> 00:51:25,999 After all this, what are we gonna do, buddy? Trade war stories on the yard? 709 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,168 Hey, if that's what you want, I will. 710 00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:30,713 I will. 711 00:51:36,927 --> 00:51:38,887 I just don't wanna hurt anymore. 712 00:51:41,015 --> 00:51:42,266 I know. 713 00:51:45,352 --> 00:51:48,230 But I can't let you hurt anyone else either, okay? 714 00:51:49,398 --> 00:51:51,233 Just put down the ice pick. 715 00:51:53,736 --> 00:51:59,867 I don't wanna see anyone else die this week, okay? Please. 716 00:52:03,162 --> 00:52:05,748 Put it down. Okay. 717 00:52:08,083 --> 00:52:11,086 - Yeah. Hey. - It's clear. 718 00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:15,299 Hey. I'm not bullshitting you. 719 00:52:17,718 --> 00:52:20,721 You wanna talk to another soldier, I'll be there for you. 720 00:52:22,765 --> 00:52:23,766 I mean that. 721 00:52:25,351 --> 00:52:29,605 What's her name, the one they paired you up with? 722 00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:36,403 Roxy. Her name was Roxy. 723 00:52:47,915 --> 00:52:49,457 - Just hang on, all right? - Okay. 724 00:52:49,458 --> 00:52:50,876 Gonna get you out right now. 725 00:52:53,587 --> 00:52:55,964 That's my girl. 726 00:53:02,888 --> 00:53:04,848 Remember the first day we met? 727 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:13,273 He told me, he said... He said, "Be careful. She's a handful." 728 00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:19,947 I said, "Good. 'Cause I am too." 729 00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:28,580 You saved my life. 730 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:22,216 “Because he holds fast to me in love, 731 00:54:22,217 --> 00:54:28,515 I will deliver him, I will protect him, because he knows my name." Psalm 91. 732 00:54:31,727 --> 00:54:35,772 I liked your little show for the podcast. 733 00:54:35,773 --> 00:54:39,817 Performative violence. Nice touch. 734 00:54:39,818 --> 00:54:42,320 Yeah, sometimes you gotta give people what they want. 735 00:54:42,321 --> 00:54:45,031 Scare 'em and just pull the carpet out from under them. 736 00:54:45,032 --> 00:54:49,410 Sure. You're not a monster. You're pathetic. 737 00:54:49,411 --> 00:54:54,041 Which means you don't have to tell anyone what you really did to Deena Ryan. 738 00:55:03,175 --> 00:55:04,176 Stop. 739 00:55:04,885 --> 00:55:08,221 Oh, look at that. You can shut me up. 740 00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:11,807 Maybe you're not as pathetic as you let on. 741 00:55:11,808 --> 00:55:13,226 Yeah, maybe. 742 00:55:13,227 --> 00:55:16,437 Maybe. But then what was the point of defanging yourself? 743 00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:21,401 Was that for the, um, listening audience or the BAU? 744 00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:33,872 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is that what this is all about? 745 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:35,999 I don't know what you're talking about. 746 00:55:37,042 --> 00:55:42,588 You analyzing this cell. Every guard, every door, every vulnerability. 747 00:55:42,589 --> 00:55:46,509 That's not true. I pled guilty. I'm gonna pay for what I did. 748 00:55:46,510 --> 00:55:52,056 Hey. You can lie to your conscious self, but you can't lie to me. 749 00:55:52,057 --> 00:55:56,478 You're planning on your chance to escape. 750 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,194 So we give Elias Voit the last word. 751 00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:07,239 He wanted us to know how he feels. 752 00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:12,536 We owe him our attention, if not our approval. 753 00:56:14,746 --> 00:56:17,207 For the last time, this is Brian Garrity. 754 00:56:18,041 --> 00:56:21,587 Thank you for listening to The Sicarius Files. 755 00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:27,301 There's nothing romantic about me. 756 00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:30,803 I'm not brilliant. I'm not special. 757 00:56:30,804 --> 00:56:35,767 I'm an antisocial psychopath who can only get his heart rate up by killing people. 758 00:56:38,061 --> 00:56:40,939 It's sad how pathetic I am, but you know what's even more pathetic? 759 00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:47,154 Someone who makes a show about it. And anyone who listens to it.