1 00:00:05,506 --> 00:00:07,965 Previously on Criminal Minds: Evolution... 2 00:00:07,966 --> 00:00:09,300 Sophisticated. 3 00:00:09,301 --> 00:00:11,552 You see that? Another Haeberlin. 4 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:13,512 We thought these cases were connected. 5 00:00:13,513 --> 00:00:15,181 Now we have our smoking gun. 6 00:00:15,182 --> 00:00:18,684 The unsub gathered followers that he's now activating. 7 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:20,394 This is a network. 8 00:00:20,395 --> 00:00:22,396 Whatever city Sicarius finds himself, 9 00:00:22,397 --> 00:00:24,690 Second Street is his preferred hunting ground. 10 00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:28,027 - Did you come here to kill me? - I already killed you an hour ago. 11 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:31,405 I just came here to watch an old man die. 12 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:32,698 I always knew it. 13 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:35,117 Family is what gets you killed. 14 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:37,412 Our vice is in our blood. 15 00:00:38,205 --> 00:00:39,914 - You are? - You know who I am. 16 00:00:39,915 --> 00:00:42,500 You killed my sister Alison. 17 00:00:42,501 --> 00:00:47,130 Your subconscious is fighting urges to kill, which is why I'm distracting you. 18 00:00:47,923 --> 00:00:50,508 You talking to me is how you cope. 19 00:00:50,509 --> 00:00:53,719 You think if I walk you through everything, 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,055 you'll be able to stop someone else? 21 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:58,182 You're a living resource, Elias. 22 00:00:58,183 --> 00:01:02,228 For the sake of others, I can't just let you sit in here and not tell your story. 23 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:05,732 The families of some of your victims have reached out and they want to meet you. 24 00:01:06,567 --> 00:01:08,901 - It was part of your training. - What? 25 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:11,988 Your training by this government agency. 26 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:13,072 Where did you hear that? 27 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:14,615 It's in the podcast. 28 00:01:14,616 --> 00:01:16,701 Welcome to The Sicarius Files. 29 00:01:16,702 --> 00:01:18,078 May I call you Elias? 30 00:01:21,623 --> 00:01:23,958 Look at me, Brian. It's sad how pathetic I am. 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,626 But you know what's even more pathetic? 32 00:01:25,627 --> 00:01:27,336 Someone who makes a show about it. 33 00:01:27,337 --> 00:01:29,131 And anyone who listens to it. 34 00:01:41,476 --> 00:01:44,187 That's so true. 35 00:01:44,855 --> 00:01:48,274 - This carbonara is to die for. - I know, right? 36 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:50,609 Where's this place again? 37 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:54,113 It just opened up on Second Street, around the corner from my office. 38 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:55,741 Mama, look! 39 00:01:56,533 --> 00:01:58,410 - It's for Auntie Ryleigh. - Oh. 40 00:01:58,910 --> 00:02:00,828 Thank you, sweetie. 41 00:02:00,829 --> 00:02:02,246 It's almost time for bed now. 42 00:02:02,247 --> 00:02:04,373 - Do you need help brushing your teeth? - No. 43 00:02:04,374 --> 00:02:06,752 Okay. 44 00:02:10,922 --> 00:02:12,716 She gets it from her mama. 45 00:02:14,092 --> 00:02:16,093 I hate to break it to you, big sis, but, 46 00:02:16,094 --> 00:02:19,055 "everybody thinks they got good taste and a sense of humor, 47 00:02:19,056 --> 00:02:21,850 but they couldn't possibly all have good taste." 48 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:25,936 Very funny. I know that movie too. 49 00:02:25,937 --> 00:02:28,899 Is that why you haven't uttered one word about what I've done to the kitchen? 50 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:31,276 The new backsplash? 51 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:33,986 - Kali... - What? 52 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:36,697 Those colors. What were you thinking? 53 00:02:36,698 --> 00:02:39,033 Those colors announce themselves. 54 00:02:39,034 --> 00:02:42,703 Yeah, they scream, "I got bad taste." 55 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:45,874 Is everything okay? 56 00:02:46,541 --> 00:02:49,126 It's just my mom. She fell. Again. 57 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:51,837 Is your dad home? 58 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:54,715 No, but the neighbor was able to get her to the hospital. 59 00:02:54,716 --> 00:02:55,925 I know. 60 00:02:55,926 --> 00:02:57,426 You need to be there. 61 00:02:57,427 --> 00:02:59,637 I'm sorry, babe. I'm sorry. 62 00:02:59,638 --> 00:03:02,390 - It's getting out of hand. I don't-- - There's nothing to be sorry about. 63 00:03:02,391 --> 00:03:04,809 - I'll call you soon as I can, okay? - Mm-hmm. 64 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:05,936 Come here. 65 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:11,900 - I love you. - I love you more. 66 00:03:19,157 --> 00:03:22,785 Look, if there's anything you or Avery need while he's gone, 67 00:03:22,786 --> 00:03:25,664 do not hesitate to reach out to me. Or Jesse. 68 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:27,749 I appreciate that. 69 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:29,251 Especially, 70 00:03:30,085 --> 00:03:31,961 if you want Jesse to replace that backsplash. 71 00:03:31,962 --> 00:03:34,548 Girl... 72 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:29,602 - Ms. Wilson. - Yes. 73 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:31,645 Emory Joy, DA Durham County. 74 00:04:31,646 --> 00:04:33,856 Can't tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time. 75 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:35,274 Oh, not a problem. 76 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,693 And you're not the first jurisdiction to make the request. 77 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:40,362 - Uh, you get my email with the case file? - Yes. 78 00:04:40,363 --> 00:04:43,449 Um, Kaliyah Burke and her daughter, Avery, reported missing. 79 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:44,867 Four years ago, presumed dead, 80 00:04:44,868 --> 00:04:47,620 back when most of this area was underwater 81 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:50,624 and nobody would have ever anticipated a drought. 82 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:52,416 That's her car? 83 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:56,505 It is, and her four-year-old daughter Avery was stuffed in the trunk. 84 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:02,302 You all right? 85 00:05:03,929 --> 00:05:06,514 - Did you find Kaliyah Burke's body? - No. 86 00:05:06,515 --> 00:05:10,017 This is all so heartbreaking, 87 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:12,520 um, but I'm sorry, DA Joy, 88 00:05:12,521 --> 00:05:15,022 what makes you think this has anything to do with the Sicarius Killer? 89 00:05:15,023 --> 00:05:18,109 We conducted a search of the immediate area and uncovered this. 90 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:22,571 A Haeberlin case. 91 00:05:22,572 --> 00:05:24,031 An empty kill kit. 92 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:27,118 Same as the ones used by the Sicarius Killer. Am I right? 93 00:05:27,661 --> 00:05:29,286 Yes. 94 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:34,084 But you know as well as I do Elias Voit confessed to the murders of 63 people. 95 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:36,836 Kaliyah Burke and her daughter... 96 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:38,087 ...were not among them. 97 00:05:38,088 --> 00:05:39,588 So why keep that to himself? 98 00:05:39,589 --> 00:05:41,007 I don't know. 99 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:43,260 That's what we need to ask him. 100 00:05:54,771 --> 00:05:57,314 Luke, you are a lifesaver. 101 00:05:57,315 --> 00:05:59,316 I'm just glad I didn't have to rescue you 102 00:05:59,317 --> 00:06:01,235 from that river of water that was coming... 103 00:06:01,236 --> 00:06:02,486 ...from your busted pipe. 104 00:06:02,487 --> 00:06:06,198 {\an8}Three. Three inspections and nobody notices that it's about to burst? 105 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:09,910 {\an8}Everything hangs on just until escrow closes. 106 00:06:09,911 --> 00:06:11,203 {\an8}Yep. 107 00:06:11,204 --> 00:06:15,708 {\an8}And, uh, between the move and Henry applying to colleges, 108 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:18,627 {\an8}I don't know how many more disruptions he and Michael can take. 109 00:06:18,628 --> 00:06:21,882 {\an8}I don't think I've seen them... ...smile in weeks. 110 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:24,676 {\an8}How long are you out for? 111 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:29,179 {\an8}Uh, Contractor said two, maybe three weeks. 112 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:31,515 {\an8}- Huh. - Oh. 113 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:36,520 {\an8}I don't think the boys and I can impose on Penelope that long. 114 00:06:36,521 --> 00:06:38,648 {\an8}Oh, my gosh. Hello, hello, hello. 115 00:06:39,482 --> 00:06:43,611 {\an8}You are here, JJ, and you are here, Luke, earlier than I thought you'd be here. 116 00:06:43,612 --> 00:06:45,404 {\an8}That's my bad. I just... 117 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:49,617 {\an8}I just thought that I should get settled sooner rather than later. 118 00:06:49,618 --> 00:06:51,785 {\an8}That makes so much sense. 119 00:06:51,786 --> 00:06:53,912 {\an8}- This is most awkward. The thing is-- - No, you know what? 120 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:56,957 {\an8}Uh, I'm the one that said 10:00 and I just... Bleh. 121 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:58,918 {\an8}Penelope, d-do you have a gue... 122 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,548 {\an8}- I had a great time. Yeah. - Yeah, me too. 123 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:08,510 {\an8}- I'll, um... I'll call you later? - Uh-huh. Yeah, great. 124 00:07:08,511 --> 00:07:09,803 {\an8}Bye. 125 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:11,139 {\an8}- Nice. - Now. 126 00:07:17,937 --> 00:07:20,105 {\an8}Okay, look, I know I'm the one that barged... ...in on you, 127 00:07:20,106 --> 00:07:23,692 {\an8}but, uh, I'm a little disappointed you didn't tell me you had a new boyfriend. 128 00:07:23,693 --> 00:07:25,361 {\an8}Oh, he's not my boyfriend. 129 00:07:25,362 --> 00:07:28,155 {\an8}No, no, that's Mr. Wednesday? 130 00:07:28,156 --> 00:07:29,823 {\an8}- Yeah. - Mr. Wednesday. 131 00:07:29,824 --> 00:07:31,575 {\an8}As in there's other days of the week? 132 00:07:31,576 --> 00:07:32,910 {\an8}Oh, no. 133 00:07:32,911 --> 00:07:34,579 {\an8}Saturday, and then that's it. 134 00:07:35,413 --> 00:07:36,747 {\an8}Oh. 135 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:38,957 {\an8}Wait, and you... you knew about this? 136 00:07:38,958 --> 00:07:41,418 {\an8}I-I didn't know he was gonna merge into Thursday-- 137 00:07:41,419 --> 00:07:43,921 {\an8}How is any of us to know that, real... 138 00:07:43,922 --> 00:07:46,048 {\an8}No, JJ, I wasn't trying to keep a secret from you, 139 00:07:46,049 --> 00:07:47,341 {\an8}and I know it's been over a year, 140 00:07:47,342 --> 00:07:49,760 {\an8}but it just didn't seem appropriate for me to be, 141 00:07:49,761 --> 00:07:51,845 {\an8}you know, spewing about 142 00:07:51,846 --> 00:07:56,100 {\an8}my salacious paramour encounters to a... 143 00:07:56,101 --> 00:07:57,267 {\an8}Ah. 144 00:07:57,268 --> 00:07:58,395 {\an8}A widow. 145 00:07:58,895 --> 00:08:00,646 {\an8}No, I get that. 146 00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:04,650 {\an8}But, hey, starting right now, I am gonna be giving you 147 00:08:04,651 --> 00:08:06,819 {\an8}the deep cuts about my romantic encounters, 148 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:07,945 {\an8}'cause we are roommates. 149 00:08:07,946 --> 00:08:09,279 {\an8}So strap in, get ready. 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,700 {\an8}I'm a little scared, but... 151 00:08:12,701 --> 00:08:15,661 {\an8}Honestly, though, thank you for letting us stay. 152 00:08:15,662 --> 00:08:18,330 {\an8}It is my honor and my pleasure to host you all. 153 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:20,708 {\an8}I have... The boys' guest room is ready, 154 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:25,337 {\an8}and my gigantic bed, which is perfect for platonic overnights too. 155 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:27,715 {\an8}- I'm gonna change the sheets. - Well, are you sure? 156 00:08:27,716 --> 00:08:30,259 {\an8}'Cause I did bring my sleeping bag out of retirement. 157 00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:32,886 {\an8}Oh, no, you can save that for the weekend camping trip 158 00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:34,138 {\an8}you're gonna have with your kids. 159 00:08:34,139 --> 00:08:37,100 {\an8}Well, you know, given the circumstances, 160 00:08:38,101 --> 00:08:40,729 {\an8}- that has been put on hold indefinitely. - Oh. 161 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:43,773 {\an8}- I'm gonna... - Yeah. 162 00:08:48,278 --> 00:08:50,279 - Hey. - What are you thinking? 163 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,157 That the Jareau family needs a pick-me-up, 164 00:08:53,158 --> 00:08:55,201 and I have an idea if you're with me. 165 00:08:56,119 --> 00:08:57,286 Yeah. 166 00:08:57,287 --> 00:08:58,580 Attaboy. 167 00:09:01,499 --> 00:09:04,419 After your uncle Cyrus was granted legal custody. 168 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:07,964 - After your parents passed away. - You mean after I killed them? 169 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:10,675 After you killed them. 170 00:09:11,676 --> 00:09:14,721 How long was it before Cyrus started taking you along with him? 171 00:09:17,766 --> 00:09:20,435 Help me! 172 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:27,984 Not long, maybe a month. 173 00:09:29,319 --> 00:09:32,280 It didn't take him long to break me, and then I was his son. 174 00:09:32,781 --> 00:09:34,573 His servant. 175 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:36,825 Did he use you to lure his victims? 176 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:39,745 No, at first he just wanted me to help him get rid of the bodies. 177 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:41,038 You know where we are? 178 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:42,373 No. 179 00:09:43,333 --> 00:09:45,001 What did you see on our way out here? 180 00:09:46,628 --> 00:09:49,296 - Nothing. - Exactly. 181 00:09:49,297 --> 00:09:52,425 No road signs, no mile markers. 182 00:09:54,385 --> 00:09:56,054 That's why I picked this place. 183 00:09:58,848 --> 00:10:00,140 Were they all in Durham County? 184 00:10:00,141 --> 00:10:03,103 Yeah, he thought the sheriffs there were lazy and stupid. 185 00:10:03,895 --> 00:10:05,395 Do you remember how many victims? 186 00:10:05,396 --> 00:10:07,315 Fifteen. 187 00:10:08,149 --> 00:10:09,691 Maybe 20. 188 00:10:09,692 --> 00:10:11,527 - All buried? - Mostly. 189 00:10:11,528 --> 00:10:13,738 I mean, we put some in the river. 190 00:10:14,906 --> 00:10:16,282 A couple in the lake. 191 00:10:17,909 --> 00:10:20,286 Would you be able to help us locate the remains? 192 00:10:22,789 --> 00:10:24,414 Well, between the lye and the elements, 193 00:10:24,415 --> 00:10:27,168 Cyrus made pretty sure that they'd never be found. 194 00:10:29,212 --> 00:10:31,547 If you don't mind me asking, 195 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:34,216 since a lot of this stuff is already part of the court record, 196 00:10:34,217 --> 00:10:35,509 why conduct these interviews? 197 00:10:35,510 --> 00:10:37,052 You sound a little frustrated. 198 00:10:37,053 --> 00:10:38,220 It's not a waste of time? 199 00:10:38,221 --> 00:10:39,264 I mean, 200 00:10:40,223 --> 00:10:43,977 it's pretty much our whole raison d'être, right? 201 00:10:44,936 --> 00:10:46,855 Analyzing behavior. 202 00:10:47,438 --> 00:10:48,522 - Right. - Yeah. 203 00:10:48,523 --> 00:10:50,858 - And we have his profile. - We do. 204 00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:53,944 We have his profile, but we do not know how that profile evolved. 205 00:10:53,945 --> 00:10:57,322 That's why we sat down with DeSalvo and Kemper and Bundy, 206 00:10:57,323 --> 00:10:59,199 and that's why we're sitting down with Voit. 207 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,454 So that we can learn how Lee Duval became Elias Voit, became Sicarius. 208 00:11:04,455 --> 00:11:08,000 All right. So do you think it's possible that one day we might be 209 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:11,545 able to discern some hidden patterns shared by all serial killers? 210 00:11:11,546 --> 00:11:13,297 Aye, there's the rub. 211 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:19,052 Well, it's my hope to discover one day the unified field theory of psychos. 212 00:11:19,053 --> 00:11:21,055 It might be a false hope. 213 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:25,976 They're always the ones that stand out, like Voit. 214 00:11:25,977 --> 00:11:28,937 Maybe they are unique. 215 00:11:28,938 --> 00:11:31,941 Their own sick snowflakes. 216 00:11:45,663 --> 00:11:46,997 Okay, good. 217 00:11:46,998 --> 00:11:49,166 Unit Chief Prentiss, I'd like to introduce you 218 00:11:49,167 --> 00:11:51,710 to Durham County District Attorney Emory Joy. 219 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:54,087 - It's nice to meet you. - Same. 220 00:11:54,088 --> 00:11:57,633 I-I have reviewed the NCBI report. 221 00:11:57,634 --> 00:12:00,093 Have the forensics come back yet on the Haeberlin case? 222 00:12:00,094 --> 00:12:02,054 Our lab is still processing. 223 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:05,849 Was any additional DNA recovered from Kaliyah's car or Avery's body? 224 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:06,934 No. 225 00:12:06,935 --> 00:12:11,021 So you have no physical evidence that ties Elias Voit to this case. 226 00:12:11,022 --> 00:12:14,900 I have evidence that begs questions that only Voit can answer. 227 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:17,903 I think together we may be able to get a confession out of him. 228 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:20,448 But if Voit really did murder this mother and daughter, 229 00:12:21,157 --> 00:12:22,742 why hasn't he told us already? 230 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:25,494 I mean, what is it about this crime 231 00:12:25,495 --> 00:12:28,413 that would make him refuse to take responsibility? 232 00:12:28,414 --> 00:12:30,415 Well, if I'm being generous of spirit 233 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:35,128 about this so-called reformed Voit that I keep hearing about, 234 00:12:35,129 --> 00:12:39,175 probably because of the shame he now feels for taking the life of a child. 235 00:12:39,717 --> 00:12:41,426 Children don't fit his victimology. 236 00:12:41,427 --> 00:12:45,264 True, but regardless, based on my professional experience, 237 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:48,141 I'd say Voit is trying to ensure 238 00:12:48,142 --> 00:12:51,478 that he's always one step ahead of the death penalty. 239 00:12:51,479 --> 00:12:53,605 He was formally sentenced to life. 240 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:57,859 He was, but I speak for the state of North Carolina. 241 00:12:57,860 --> 00:13:01,363 We'd like Voit himself to pay the ultimate price for his crimes. 242 00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:05,742 So you think by withholding the precise number of his body count, 243 00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:07,160 Voit keeps an ace in the hole. 244 00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:09,413 It's sure hard to put him to death 245 00:13:09,414 --> 00:13:13,042 if it means we might be overlooking even one missing victim. 246 00:13:15,044 --> 00:13:18,047 That compromise is hard for families to accept. 247 00:13:18,673 --> 00:13:21,009 And it's tough to find the words to tell them. 248 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:36,898 Wait a minute. 249 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:42,238 You're analyzing this cell, every guard, every door, every vulnerability. 250 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:45,699 I'm never gonna get it. 251 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:46,825 Don't say that. 252 00:13:46,826 --> 00:13:49,537 Everybody's got to start somewhere, okay? You just got to practice. 253 00:13:50,329 --> 00:13:51,873 Just clear your mind. 254 00:13:54,292 --> 00:13:56,753 Yeah! Over here. Good girl. 255 00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:03,259 You're planning on your chance to escape. 256 00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:37,919 Lots of fan mail today. 257 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:50,848 Eleven seconds every damn time. 258 00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:54,226 That is a model of consistency. 259 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,186 Prison guards are paycheck players. 260 00:14:56,187 --> 00:14:58,063 Every day they check in, check out. 261 00:14:58,064 --> 00:15:00,273 They get trapped in their own routine. 262 00:15:00,274 --> 00:15:02,526 Maybe you put a few of them out of their misery 263 00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:04,903 when you get the hell out of here. 264 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,739 I'm not going anywhere. 265 00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:08,366 Not yet. 266 00:15:08,991 --> 00:15:10,034 Where would I go? 267 00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:11,536 First things first. 268 00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:14,747 I told you this is where I belong. 269 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:24,840 Another family member wants to come talk to me. 270 00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:26,134 Of course. 271 00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:28,386 They all say they want closure. 272 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,682 They want to make sense of a senseless act. 273 00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:38,687 Your kid dies drowning, you can't ask the water, "What the hell were you thinking?" 274 00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:41,314 No, it's not about closure, it's about guilt and suffering. 275 00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:42,399 It's about penance. 276 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,360 It's the same reason why I'm putting myself through this. 277 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:46,778 Don't flatter yourself. 278 00:15:46,779 --> 00:15:50,158 For you, it's about reminiscence. 279 00:16:03,838 --> 00:16:06,507 Your presence is being requested. 280 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:18,018 I understand why DA Joy is here, but he's gonna be disappointed. 281 00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:20,520 I agree. Voit's told us everything. 282 00:16:20,521 --> 00:16:23,523 I've been talking to the guy for weeks. He's been an open book. 283 00:16:23,524 --> 00:16:25,025 But what about the Haeberlin case? 284 00:16:25,026 --> 00:16:28,236 We never could independently verify how many Voit buried for himself. 285 00:16:28,237 --> 00:16:31,323 And he was very deliberate about who he gave a kill kit to. 286 00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:34,159 Elias, this is the district attorney of Durham County. 287 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,368 Joy. 288 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:36,412 Emory Joy. 289 00:16:37,121 --> 00:16:38,289 You do your homework. 290 00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:40,291 No, it's your face. 291 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:43,543 It's familiar. I saw it when you were a deputy. 292 00:16:43,544 --> 00:16:46,838 Is that right? Back when you and your uncle were out burying bodies? 293 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:47,923 Yes, that's right. 294 00:16:47,924 --> 00:16:51,218 It sounds to me like DA Joy has a bit of a history with the Sicarius saga. 295 00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:53,887 - We're here to ask you... - So Voit knows this is personal? 296 00:16:53,888 --> 00:16:54,971 And now how... 297 00:16:54,972 --> 00:16:58,392 You think Voit knows the difference between state and federal jurisdiction? 298 00:16:58,976 --> 00:17:01,144 You mean, does he realize that he's about to open himself up 299 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,980 to a capital crime in North Carolina where they want him killed? 300 00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:04,982 Of course he does. 301 00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:07,484 What is it you think I've done? 302 00:17:07,485 --> 00:17:08,569 Kaliyah Burke. 303 00:17:09,070 --> 00:17:11,197 Wife, mother. 304 00:17:11,822 --> 00:17:14,450 Worked as a stock analyst in Friars Town. 305 00:17:14,951 --> 00:17:18,412 Her office was located downtown on Second Street. You'd know it. 306 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:22,916 You think he's fucking with Joy? 307 00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:24,668 He's fucking with all of us. 308 00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:26,253 The question is why. 309 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:30,382 On November 5th, 2022, an intruder was able to make entry 310 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:33,718 into Kaliyah's home by remotely deactivating her alarm system. 311 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:34,887 A struggle ensued. 312 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,516 After that, all we know is that Kaliyah and her daughter Avery 313 00:17:39,517 --> 00:17:42,018 were abducted in her own car. It took 24 hours 314 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:44,104 before anyone knew they were gone. 315 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:46,481 For four years we were running in circles. 316 00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:47,566 We had nothing. 317 00:17:47,567 --> 00:17:51,027 Until yesterday when Kaliyah's car was found in Yasper Creek. 318 00:17:51,028 --> 00:17:55,323 Wh-- You sure about that? 'Cause Yasper is basically marshland. 319 00:17:55,324 --> 00:17:57,451 Well, not anymore, Elias. 320 00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:01,079 Inside the trunk was the body of Avery Burke, 321 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,873 still wearing the pajamas from the night she was taken. 322 00:18:03,874 --> 00:18:05,834 The coroner said her neck was broken. 323 00:18:05,835 --> 00:18:10,798 And 50 yards away, deputies found an empty Haeberlin case. 324 00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:14,926 You didn't need Avery, so you put her out of her misery quick. 325 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:18,055 But Kaliyah, you took some time, I bet. 326 00:18:18,556 --> 00:18:20,348 And you did God knows what to her. 327 00:18:20,349 --> 00:18:21,434 Wow. 328 00:18:22,852 --> 00:18:26,397 You missed an essential part of my MO, DA. 329 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:28,524 No body, no crime. 330 00:18:29,066 --> 00:18:33,320 That's why I left all my victims in buried shipping containers. 331 00:18:33,321 --> 00:18:37,240 One of which had been found in Yakima, Washington, early in 2022. 332 00:18:37,241 --> 00:18:40,035 The other one you blew up right before you killed your uncle, 333 00:18:40,036 --> 00:18:42,079 so no more room at the inn. 334 00:18:44,248 --> 00:18:47,334 You poisoned Cyrus. Cops were nipping at your heels. 335 00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:50,045 You needed to get home to your family in Seattle, 336 00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:52,214 and yet still y-you got that vice. 337 00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:54,300 It's in your blood. 338 00:18:55,926 --> 00:18:58,637 Which means when you were done, you had to improvise. 339 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:03,184 And if not for climate change, you'd have had no body, no crime. 340 00:19:05,019 --> 00:19:08,481 Voit seems awfully engrossed in those crime scene photos. 341 00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:12,150 - It's not like Voit to drag this out. - I know. 342 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:13,778 I hear you turned over a new leaf. 343 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:15,655 Where is she? 344 00:19:17,448 --> 00:19:19,200 Elias, do you know something? 345 00:19:22,453 --> 00:19:23,954 I'll show you where she is. 346 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:32,421 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 347 00:19:35,132 --> 00:19:39,178 If you want her body, I need to take you there myself. 348 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:54,818 - Sorry we're late. - Missed the fireworks. 349 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,403 Show's not over. 350 00:19:56,404 --> 00:20:00,365 Emily, for your command, here is the whole sad history 351 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:04,286 of Kaliyah and Avery Burke. 352 00:20:04,829 --> 00:20:09,165 So NCBI never had Voit or his network on their radar until now. 353 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:10,959 And at the start of this investigation, 354 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,961 this was looking like a repeat of the Laci Peterson case. 355 00:20:12,962 --> 00:20:15,839 Right. 2002 Modesto, California. Woman murdered... 356 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,174 - Pregnant woman murdered. - ...by her philandering husband. 357 00:20:18,175 --> 00:20:21,177 And so naturally here all eyes turned to Kaliyah's philandering husband. 358 00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,929 Yeah, that would be Tristan Burke. 359 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:25,390 {\an8}He told his wife and his sister-in-law 360 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,434 that his mother had fallen and she was in the hospital. 361 00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:30,103 Really, that was an excuse because, uh, he was gonna 362 00:20:30,104 --> 00:20:32,397 go canoodle with one of his paramours. 363 00:20:32,398 --> 00:20:34,983 Given the circumstances, I mean, Tristan could still be good for it. 364 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:37,527 Yeah, we can't discount the kill kit. 365 00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:38,738 I'm totally with you there. 366 00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:43,199 We also need to get access to Tristan's digital communications, 367 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,618 see if he was ever in contact with Voit. 368 00:20:45,619 --> 00:20:46,911 Wait, h-hold on a second. 369 00:20:46,912 --> 00:20:50,623 I'll give you the Haeberlin case is suspicious, but we know Voit. 370 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:52,876 - This isn't him. - Because of victimology? 371 00:20:52,877 --> 00:20:54,085 The whole thing. 372 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:56,713 - It's too intimate. - Intimate? 373 00:20:56,714 --> 00:21:00,550 Kaliyah and Avery's murders are crimes of passion, not psychopathy. 374 00:21:00,551 --> 00:21:03,344 Then why is Voit choosing to insinuate himself in it? 375 00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:06,681 I'll put my money down on he's looking for a chance to escape. 376 00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:09,517 Come on. That'll never happen. 377 00:21:09,518 --> 00:21:13,354 With all due respect to the local police, Voit might see a soft spot. 378 00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:18,110 This does put him temporarily but totally into DA Joy's custody. 379 00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:19,986 Dave, JJ, Tyler. 380 00:21:19,987 --> 00:21:23,156 We need to make sure Voit doesn't stray while he's on his little field trip. 381 00:21:23,157 --> 00:21:25,617 Tara, Luke. Bring in Tristan Burke for questioning. 382 00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:26,701 Work up a profile on him. 383 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:28,953 Penelope, we need another deep dive 384 00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:30,288 into Voit's communications. 385 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,373 Could we have missed something? 386 00:21:32,374 --> 00:21:33,918 Absolutely we could not have. 387 00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:37,213 And, okay, you got it. 388 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:48,306 One thing's for sure, it'll be good to get some fresh air. 389 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:49,682 Fuck you. 390 00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,311 Better to let sleeping dogs lie. 391 00:21:53,103 --> 00:21:54,647 I don't have a choice. 392 00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:59,235 There are always choices. 393 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:01,403 Just leave me alone. 394 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:04,240 I'm just getting coffee. 395 00:22:05,491 --> 00:22:11,121 Though, I gotta say, you did have me thinking that just maybe... 396 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:16,209 But we both know you're just yanking everybody's chain here. 397 00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:17,335 I'm not. 398 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:18,671 Kaliyah and her family, they... 399 00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:21,966 they deserve justice. 400 00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:30,139 He's coming. 401 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:32,433 - There he is. - Excuse me, Mr. Voit. 402 00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:35,353 Voit. Are there more victims? 403 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:36,771 Did you kill Kaliyah? 404 00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:40,275 You. You! You killed my daughter, goddamn you! 405 00:22:40,276 --> 00:22:43,778 No! No! No! Give him to me! 406 00:22:43,779 --> 00:22:45,530 What did you do with the body? 407 00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:48,157 Give him to me! I'll show you what justice looks like! 408 00:22:48,158 --> 00:22:50,368 Sir, sir, sir, sir. It's all right. 409 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:51,829 It's all right. It's all right. 410 00:22:52,413 --> 00:22:55,249 - It's all right, sir. It'll be all right. - He took my baby girl. 411 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,835 I know, I know, I know. 412 00:23:07,428 --> 00:23:08,971 I don't know what I was thinking. 413 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:13,558 Like I'm gonna get to this guy being guarded by half the damn state? 414 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,685 Your emotions are understandable. 415 00:23:15,686 --> 00:23:18,855 But I'm just so confused, is all. 416 00:23:18,856 --> 00:23:22,610 Now up until yesterday, everybody was saying Kaliyah's husband did it. 417 00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:26,030 And then they found Kaliyah's car and they found... 418 00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:34,288 They found little Avery. 419 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:39,043 Now they're telling everybody that this-- this 420 00:23:39,543 --> 00:23:42,504 S-Sicarius Killer is responsible? 421 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:44,465 I get it. 422 00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:46,508 It's hard to process. 423 00:23:47,384 --> 00:23:49,261 Well, you know, if I'm being honest, I ne... 424 00:23:50,471 --> 00:23:52,306 I never even wanted to admit she had been murdered. 425 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:54,308 I don't know, sir. 426 00:23:54,975 --> 00:23:58,478 I wanted them to keep calling it a missing persons case 427 00:23:58,479 --> 00:24:02,316 or like a kidnapping 'cause that meant there was hope. 428 00:24:05,069 --> 00:24:09,073 Hope that she and my grandbaby would come home. 429 00:24:10,699 --> 00:24:11,867 Alive. 430 00:24:13,535 --> 00:24:15,578 How is your family holding up? 431 00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:18,958 Well, well, it's like a godsend. 432 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:21,376 Like my wife. 433 00:24:21,377 --> 00:24:22,795 She passed away from COVID. 434 00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:25,798 But my daughter Ryleigh... 435 00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:31,303 No, she ain't been the same since Kaliyah went away. 436 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:35,306 See, she said she knew that Tristan had been stepping out 437 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,516 and she didn't say nothing. 438 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:38,644 Figured it wasn't her business. 439 00:24:40,771 --> 00:24:43,774 When they couldn't put him away for the murders, 440 00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:46,735 all she could do was 441 00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:51,073 just make sure he didn't get anything that was rightfully our family's property. 442 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:55,785 Do you think Ryleigh would be willing to talk to us? 443 00:24:55,786 --> 00:24:58,287 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. 444 00:24:58,288 --> 00:24:59,873 She'll help you any way she can. 445 00:25:01,041 --> 00:25:04,670 It just seems like every time she's ready to take a step forward 446 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:07,339 without her sister... 447 00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:11,218 something like this just... 448 00:25:13,262 --> 00:25:14,972 pulls her right back into the pain. 449 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:28,317 Mr. Burke, we really appreciate you volunteering to come and speak with us. 450 00:25:28,318 --> 00:25:30,236 I'm SSA Tara Lewis. 451 00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:31,571 SSA Luke Alvez. 452 00:25:31,572 --> 00:25:32,906 Have a seat. 453 00:25:33,407 --> 00:25:38,579 I mean, you know, this whole experience has been incredibly surreal, right? 454 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:43,584 I mean, four years they tried to lock me up for killing my daughter and wife. 455 00:25:44,209 --> 00:25:47,837 The fact you actually dug up the truth, I mean, it's a good thing. 456 00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:50,215 Actually, you can thank DA Joy. 457 00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:53,676 DA Joy? 458 00:25:53,677 --> 00:25:56,637 - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't think so. 459 00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:58,681 I mean, the man's had a hard-on for me since day one. 460 00:25:58,682 --> 00:26:02,977 I mean, he put GPS monitors on my car, put a wire on my ex-girlfriend. 461 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,604 I mean, he's seriously trying to set me up. 462 00:26:04,605 --> 00:26:06,355 I was hoping you brought me here 463 00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:08,483 because you're investigating this motherfucker's misconduct. 464 00:26:08,484 --> 00:26:12,278 You can appreciate why you were considered a suspect, right? 465 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:15,406 I mean, the night that Kaliyah and Avery disappeared, you were seeing-- 466 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:16,950 Look, what do you want me to say? 467 00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:19,368 I was a shitty husband? 468 00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:20,370 Okay. 469 00:26:21,163 --> 00:26:23,414 I lied about fucking around, all right? 470 00:26:23,415 --> 00:26:24,541 Guilty. 471 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:26,794 That doesn't make me a goddamn killer. 472 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,089 So what are we actually doing here? 473 00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:34,550 Your wife and daughter were reported missing by Kaliyah's sister Ryleigh. 474 00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:38,262 And then it took over a week for you to interview with the police. 475 00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:40,515 And when you finally did, you suggested that your 476 00:26:40,516 --> 00:26:42,600 - wife took your daughter and left you. - No, we're not doing this. 477 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:44,393 - We're not doing this. Come on. - All right. 478 00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:47,146 And then it took another seven days before you allowed a search of your home. 479 00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:49,690 Yeah, where they found traces of blood in my kitchen. 480 00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:51,443 So, what, I'm a fucking killer and a moron? 481 00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:54,571 - That's not what we're saying. - Yeah, well, I'm saying I'm done here. 482 00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:57,032 How about that? 483 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:04,289 You know, all you cops are the fucking same. 484 00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:08,584 You got your guy, a goddamn serial killer. 485 00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,420 And here you are still... 486 00:27:11,547 --> 00:27:13,632 still trying to lock me up in a cage. 487 00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,218 All right. 488 00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:51,335 - Want to make sure you get a clear shot? - Yeah, don't tempt me. 489 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:55,674 - Now, come on. Let's go. Take me to her. - Just... Just give me a second. 490 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:27,872 Be some trick to escape now. 491 00:28:27,873 --> 00:28:30,709 Yeah, but it might not be about that. 492 00:28:35,088 --> 00:28:36,965 Voit, where is she? 493 00:28:37,925 --> 00:28:39,051 Not far. 494 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:58,737 Voit! 495 00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:09,081 Voit! 496 00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:10,707 Stop! 497 00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:15,920 Hey! We will shoot you. 498 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,214 What the fuck are you trying to pull? 499 00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:20,676 Dig there. 500 00:29:24,638 --> 00:29:26,056 Dig right here. 501 00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:33,896 My wife will be right with you. 502 00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:35,440 Sorry for the intrusion. 503 00:29:35,983 --> 00:29:36,984 Hey. 504 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:41,028 You, uh, got a job to do, right? 505 00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:52,374 D-Didn't there used to be a bookshelf in that wall over there? 506 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,293 - Yeah, yeah. How'd you know? - Evidence photos? 507 00:29:56,294 --> 00:29:59,088 - Yeah. - I'm sorry to keep you waiting. 508 00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:00,464 It's no problem at all. 509 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:02,758 It makes sense why the FBI is here, 510 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,804 but I have to say I'm a little surprised it's taken this long. 511 00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:09,390 Usually we need to be invited in, but at this point, 512 00:30:09,391 --> 00:30:11,225 we're following up because the suspect, 513 00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,519 Elias Voit, has victims across the country. 514 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,230 Hmm. Uh, Voit. 515 00:30:16,231 --> 00:30:18,482 He's the, uh, Sicarius Killer? 516 00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:19,734 He is. 517 00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:22,528 Did he kill my sister and her baby? 518 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:24,656 That's what we're here to find out. 519 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:45,510 Open them. 520 00:30:51,892 --> 00:30:53,476 It's Kaliyah. 521 00:30:53,477 --> 00:30:55,228 Voit knew exactly where to find her. 522 00:31:07,074 --> 00:31:08,157 Hot off the presses. 523 00:31:08,158 --> 00:31:10,868 Those remains Voit led you to are in fact Kaliyah Burke's. 524 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:14,955 However, Voit's DNA isn't on her body or on those storage totes. 525 00:31:14,956 --> 00:31:17,041 - It's not a big surprise. - You want one of those. 526 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:20,753 Well, guess whose DNA was slathered all over those bins? 527 00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:21,837 Tristan Burke's. 528 00:31:21,838 --> 00:31:24,632 So Tristan has to be some sort of 529 00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:28,844 outer circle Sicarius network wannabe that we somehow overlooked. 530 00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:29,929 Calm down, Sheila. 531 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:31,764 That somehow would be moi and I overlook zilch. 532 00:31:31,765 --> 00:31:35,184 I ran digital traces till the cyber cows came home. 533 00:31:35,185 --> 00:31:38,312 I cross-referenced that with the digital message system 534 00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:39,605 that Voit surrendered to us. 535 00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:43,734 At no place, no time, no point did Tristan contact Voit or vicer the versa. 536 00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:44,819 I don't understand. 537 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:47,780 If they weren't talking, how did he know exactly where to find that body? 538 00:31:47,781 --> 00:31:50,199 I'll tell you exactly how he found that body, 539 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,452 and it has nothing to do with him being a party to murder. 540 00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:57,915 He played the same profiling game I used to play with my old partner, Jason Gideon. 541 00:31:57,916 --> 00:31:59,250 I'm the unsub. 542 00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:03,045 You think he inferred his own profile and imagined himself as the assailant. 543 00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:04,463 He didn't have to infer anything. 544 00:32:04,464 --> 00:32:07,341 It came to him instinctively because he's a serial killer. 545 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:09,969 Right. For him it's like the way a musician can 546 00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:13,055 easily pick up and play along with an unfamiliar chord progression. 547 00:32:13,056 --> 00:32:15,850 Yeah. Plus, he knows the burial site like the back of his hand. 548 00:32:15,851 --> 00:32:17,309 I mean, and given the soil, 549 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,770 there's only one logical place he could have buried the body. 550 00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:21,856 That's one hell of a magic trick. 551 00:32:21,857 --> 00:32:23,107 It sure as hell ain't magic. 552 00:32:23,108 --> 00:32:25,901 But Voit is playing a trick. 553 00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:29,780 He didn't want the chance to escape so much as he wanted to use 554 00:32:29,781 --> 00:32:34,118 this cold case so he could be convicted in a state court and sentenced to death. 555 00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,746 We got back our lab report on the Haeberlin case, 556 00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:40,624 and they're saying that case was manufactured in 2023. 557 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:44,170 - That's after Voit was in custody. - Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. 558 00:32:44,171 --> 00:32:46,881 It does if you're trying to frame Voit. 559 00:32:46,882 --> 00:32:49,091 Frame him? H-He found the damn body. 560 00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:50,801 Ah, JJ's right. 561 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:52,970 And by Voit trying to take advantage of this cold case, he's gonna make 562 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,931 it a whole hell of a lot harder to convict the actual killer. 563 00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:59,393 W-Wait, m-maybe this was always part of Voit's plan with Tristan Burke. 564 00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:02,021 It may be part of somebody's plan. 565 00:33:02,022 --> 00:33:03,772 Garcia, has Tristan been picked up? 566 00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:07,359 Uh, yeah. The marshals just did, and he's on his way to you as we speak. 567 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,529 - Okay, we'll get back to you. - We're standing by. 568 00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:12,239 We need to get Voit to face the fact that if he 569 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,950 doesn't come clean, the real killer gets away with this. 570 00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:17,162 - Let me talk to him. - No, JJ, let me? 571 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:38,934 Hell of a performance today. 572 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:42,520 Why are you here? 573 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:45,522 I know you want the state of North Carolina 574 00:33:45,523 --> 00:33:47,609 to find you guilty and put you to death. 575 00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:50,945 And I-I swear I wish they were gonna do it. 576 00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:53,739 But the problem is, that means the person or persons who are 577 00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:58,535 actually responsible for killing Kaliyah and Avery Burke will escape justice. 578 00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:00,247 Yeah, Tyler, you don't know shit. 579 00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:04,333 Be serious, your team figured this out. 580 00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:08,420 If it were up to you and DA Joy, the report on the Haeberlin case would 581 00:34:08,421 --> 00:34:11,882 be buried and Tristan Burke and Elias Voit 582 00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:15,386 would be on trial for capital murder conspiracy. 583 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:18,056 Hey, you need to tell the locals exactly what's going on here. 584 00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:23,727 You do realize that if I hadn't agreed to indulge in all this, 585 00:34:23,728 --> 00:34:26,690 then Kaliyah's body would never have been found, right? 586 00:34:27,232 --> 00:34:31,568 And nobody ever would have paid for her death, so... 587 00:34:33,947 --> 00:34:35,364 Better Sicarius than nobody. 588 00:34:35,365 --> 00:34:36,615 You can change that. 589 00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:37,909 Yeah, and you can do your job. 590 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,996 You could try reading the case file 591 00:34:41,997 --> 00:34:44,249 because everything you need to figure this out is right there. 592 00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:48,378 But if you can't do that, if you can't figure it out, 593 00:34:49,671 --> 00:34:52,465 then Sicarius will die for your sins. 594 00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:59,221 I swear to God... ...as soon as this shit is over, 595 00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:03,267 I'm suing the fuck out of lame-ass Joy and you FB fucking I's. 596 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:05,894 You watch. Aight. 597 00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:07,564 Yeah, well, get in line. 598 00:35:08,982 --> 00:35:10,316 This shit is funny to you? 599 00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,192 Listen to me. 600 00:35:12,193 --> 00:35:14,361 If you hadn't been fucking around and lying to the cops, 601 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:15,779 you wouldn't even be here right now. 602 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:19,742 Your goddamn DNA is all over those bins along with Kaliyah's body. 603 00:35:19,743 --> 00:35:21,285 Yeah, okay, because they're mine. 604 00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:22,453 So what? 605 00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:25,873 I used them to move all my shit into Kay's house when we got married. 606 00:35:25,874 --> 00:35:27,458 - They'd been in the basement. - So what? 607 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:30,461 So the killer stole them along with Kaliyah and Avery? 608 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:32,087 I don't know. 609 00:35:32,088 --> 00:35:33,340 It seems that way, right? 610 00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:36,801 Tell me something, Tristan. 611 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:39,054 What? 612 00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:41,681 Why did you get married? 613 00:35:46,895 --> 00:35:48,687 Because Kaliyah got pregnant. 614 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:50,065 And to be honest, 615 00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:54,109 I told her I would pay to take care of it, 616 00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:57,280 but she wasn't hearing any of that, of course. 617 00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:01,618 And then my mom found out. 618 00:36:02,702 --> 00:36:04,663 So I had to do right. 619 00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:10,710 You don't even know how many times I actually prayed to be free. 620 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:14,214 And so your prayers were answered. 621 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,591 No, no. 622 00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:20,679 Look, I know I'm not a good guy. 623 00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:26,893 But I swear to God I'm not a bad guy either. 624 00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:37,529 Honestly, I'm not sure what the hell I'm looking at here. 625 00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:41,532 Assuming what you said before, that this is a crime of passion, 626 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:44,743 not psychopathy, then that motive still lands hard on Tristan. 627 00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:48,164 Because that's what the real killer was banking on from the start. 628 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:51,543 So let's think harder about this disposal site. 629 00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:56,839 It's remote, which means whoever chose it had to have had a lot of experience there. 630 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,841 - Years. - That's not Tristan. 631 00:36:58,842 --> 00:37:01,635 He only moved here when he married Kaliyah. 632 00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:03,095 He's also not the nature type. 633 00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:05,806 So, if crime of passion, 634 00:37:05,807 --> 00:37:09,518 then real killer must be someone with an intimate knowledge of Yasper Creek 635 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:15,232 and presumably as close to Kaliyah emotionally as her own husband. 636 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:17,526 It's-- It's gotta be a family member. 637 00:37:17,527 --> 00:37:18,652 No way. 638 00:37:18,653 --> 00:37:20,863 Come on. We've seen how much the loss of Kaliyah 639 00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:23,157 and her daughter has wrecked her surviving family. 640 00:37:23,158 --> 00:37:26,910 I know, but we need to have Garcia look into their backgrounds. 641 00:37:34,294 --> 00:37:36,712 Hello, Mr. Faust. We're sorry to trouble you at this hour. 642 00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:38,005 Uh, no, no. 643 00:37:38,006 --> 00:37:39,590 Please, come on in. 644 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:41,134 Ryleigh's right down there. 645 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:48,099 DA Joy just called. 646 00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,142 We're very sorry. 647 00:37:50,143 --> 00:37:53,396 Well, at least she's coming home. 648 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,399 - How may we help you? - We need to speak to Jesse. 649 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,276 Me? What for? 650 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:02,112 - Maybe you want to come with us. - Are you serious? 651 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:04,199 - What's going on? - Nothing's going on. 652 00:38:08,912 --> 00:38:09,996 Jesse. 653 00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:24,426 You don't understand. 654 00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:26,971 No, I don't. 655 00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:41,735 Jesse Poole, age 37. 656 00:38:41,736 --> 00:38:43,570 Born and raised here in Friars Town. 657 00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:47,951 Carpenter by trade, but a longtime volunteer for the forestry service. 658 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:51,746 Spent a lot of time around Yasper. 659 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,332 It's not what you think. 660 00:38:55,124 --> 00:38:56,709 What do we think, Jesse? 661 00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:58,503 I... 662 00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:01,129 I don't know. 663 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:02,423 Why'd you run? 664 00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,551 I... I-- 665 00:39:05,051 --> 00:39:06,344 I'm allowed a lawyer. 666 00:39:09,305 --> 00:39:11,266 Yes. Yes, you are. 667 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,644 We'll have you wait right here. 668 00:39:32,287 --> 00:39:33,830 No, no. 669 00:39:34,956 --> 00:39:36,957 Hey, what the actual fuck, huh? 670 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:40,878 You can't leave me here with this psycho! 671 00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:42,421 Can you hear me? 672 00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:44,506 - Hello? Hey! Hey! - You think this will work? 673 00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:45,591 Hey! 674 00:39:45,592 --> 00:39:48,719 Well, it's not the craziest idea Rossi's ever come up with. 675 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,139 I want my lawyer! Get me a fucking lawyer! 676 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:57,185 DA Joy, I need to talk to you. 677 00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:59,229 Mrs. Poole, we understand how confusing this must... 678 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:02,441 You can't possibly think my husband had anything to do with my sister's murder. 679 00:40:02,442 --> 00:40:03,984 We do. 680 00:40:03,985 --> 00:40:05,069 Please. 681 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,618 My husband is a good man. 682 00:40:12,619 --> 00:40:14,703 Look, Jesse just couldn't hurt a soul. 683 00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:17,623 Now, i-if you don't think this Sicarius person is guilty, 684 00:40:17,624 --> 00:40:19,583 then why don't you take another look at Tristan Burke? 685 00:40:19,584 --> 00:40:20,792 Oh, we did. 686 00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:22,711 Somebody tried to frame them both. 687 00:40:22,712 --> 00:40:23,713 Not Jesse. 688 00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:27,132 - Why? - Yes, why? 689 00:40:27,133 --> 00:40:28,968 That is the question. 690 00:40:29,636 --> 00:40:30,802 With Jesse right now, 691 00:40:30,803 --> 00:40:35,349 we have two points of the conviction triangle, opportunity and means. 692 00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:36,433 What's his motive? 693 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:39,686 What does he stand to gain by a double homicide? 694 00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:42,606 The truth is, there are only two 695 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:46,735 fundamental motives for murder: passion or profit. 696 00:40:46,736 --> 00:40:49,613 Sometimes they go hand in hand, like here. 697 00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:53,200 What? Are you gonna say Jesse was rebuffed by my sister, 698 00:40:53,201 --> 00:40:55,035 and that he has plans to kill me too? 699 00:40:55,036 --> 00:40:58,372 Well, actually, your husband has no motive. 700 00:40:58,373 --> 00:41:00,958 He's been loyal to you to a fault. 701 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,126 Over the years, with the work we do, 702 00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:08,173 we've seen how the thin line between grief and guilt can often blur. 703 00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:11,176 While it seems understandable for a family member to try 704 00:41:11,177 --> 00:41:13,972 to minimize the reminders of the deceased, 705 00:41:14,681 --> 00:41:18,308 the profile of a family member in mourning 706 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:21,979 suggests it's far more common for them to do just about everything 707 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:26,066 to preserve the memories of their lost loved one. 708 00:41:26,067 --> 00:41:28,193 This house meant so much to your sister. 709 00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:32,072 She had a lot of her own little touches, didn't she? 710 00:41:32,073 --> 00:41:34,783 So i-it's a bit curious to us that the moment you 711 00:41:34,784 --> 00:41:38,453 took possession of it, you erased every trace of her. 712 00:41:38,454 --> 00:41:43,041 From shelves in the living room to backsplash in the kitchen. 713 00:41:43,042 --> 00:41:45,962 - How dare you. - Where-- Where are you going with this? 714 00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:50,298 Mr. Faust, do you know the reason why 715 00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:53,468 your wife left her grandparents' house to Kaliyah 716 00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:56,013 and not to both your daughters? 717 00:41:56,014 --> 00:41:57,598 Well, that was just some... 718 00:41:59,142 --> 00:42:01,059 I mean, it doesn't mean anything. 719 00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:05,939 "And in the event of Kaliyah's death, the house would belong to Avery." 720 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,400 Now you say what you want to say, or you better shut the fuck up. 721 00:42:08,401 --> 00:42:10,778 Passion and profit, Ryleigh. 722 00:42:12,488 --> 00:42:15,115 Your husband is in that back room spilling his guts. 723 00:42:15,116 --> 00:42:18,118 You tell us what he's got to say. 724 00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:23,498 He helped you murder your own sister and your precious little niece. 725 00:42:23,499 --> 00:42:26,460 - No, no, no. - You and Jesse tried to frame Tristan, 726 00:42:26,461 --> 00:42:29,087 and once you realized that lie wasn't gonna hold, 727 00:42:29,088 --> 00:42:33,216 I'm guessing you were the one who was listening to a popular podcast. 728 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:36,011 You thought maybe a true crime twist might save you. 729 00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:38,056 That's why you planted the Haeberlin case. 730 00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,148 God! You dumb son of a bitch! 731 00:42:48,149 --> 00:42:49,524 That's enough. 732 00:42:49,525 --> 00:42:50,942 Ryleigh, tell them they're wrong. 733 00:42:50,943 --> 00:42:52,444 Tell them they're wrong. 734 00:42:52,445 --> 00:42:53,780 It's not fucking fair. 735 00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:57,033 Kaliyah got everything she wanted. 736 00:42:58,326 --> 00:43:00,536 - Ryleigh... - Everything. 737 00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:03,331 And I got the scraps. 738 00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:08,503 And when Mom was dying, I cleaned up her shit. 739 00:43:09,462 --> 00:43:11,798 And in the end, 740 00:43:12,632 --> 00:43:13,674 still, 741 00:43:14,926 --> 00:43:16,219 she picked Kaliyah 742 00:43:18,054 --> 00:43:19,180 over me. 743 00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:21,974 Ryleigh, no... 744 00:43:28,231 --> 00:43:31,567 Ryleigh? No. 745 00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:36,239 Thank you. 746 00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:51,420 "Whatever is begun in anger ends in shame." 747 00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:53,422 Benjamin Franklin. 748 00:43:56,926 --> 00:43:58,427 How you doing, kid? 749 00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:00,847 Been better. 750 00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:04,182 Wanna talk about it? 751 00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:06,936 Seems like all I'm doing is talking about it actually. 752 00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:08,521 How's that? 753 00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:10,106 Counseling. 754 00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:13,484 You know, for years, after Alison was murdered, 755 00:44:14,026 --> 00:44:16,361 I had this one singular focus: 756 00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:19,490 Find the man who killed her and end him. 757 00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:21,159 And then... 758 00:44:23,953 --> 00:44:25,788 ...my life took this crazy-ass turn, 759 00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:27,957 and now I'm here... 760 00:44:30,376 --> 00:44:31,460 ...but I'm at a loss. 761 00:44:34,213 --> 00:44:35,547 What makes you feel that? 762 00:44:35,548 --> 00:44:38,550 For starters, even fucking Voit is a better profiler than me. 763 00:44:38,551 --> 00:44:40,427 No, I told you, the guy's a psycho. 764 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:42,053 It comes naturally to him. 765 00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:45,056 I never would have profiled Ryleigh and her husband as suspects. Never. 766 00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:47,851 Because your personal experience with family 767 00:44:47,852 --> 00:44:50,312 is telling you blood doesn't betray blood. 768 00:44:50,313 --> 00:44:53,900 Obviously, it can and it does. 769 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:59,197 So all this means is you need more time to set aside your personal bias. 770 00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:02,116 I see. 771 00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:04,911 I need to detach. 772 00:45:06,204 --> 00:45:08,997 It'll take time and more reps. 773 00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:10,833 What if I can't hack it? 774 00:45:12,168 --> 00:45:13,251 You will. 775 00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:14,670 How can you be so sure? 776 00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:21,886 Because I'm a great fucking profiler. 777 00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:33,230 Keep 'em close, Keep 'em close. Okay. Not yet. Not yet. 778 00:45:33,231 --> 00:45:34,940 Okay-- Okay, you can open your eyes. 779 00:45:34,941 --> 00:45:36,942 What do you think? 780 00:45:36,943 --> 00:45:39,694 - Wow. - Bringing the outdoors to the indoors. 781 00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:42,155 I mean, this is pretty cool, right? 782 00:45:42,156 --> 00:45:44,783 You guys, I don't know what to say. 783 00:45:44,784 --> 00:45:47,994 - Wow. - I don't know. It's kinda dumb. 784 00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:49,120 Henry! 785 00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:52,499 Kinda dumb? No way. No. 786 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:53,792 It's not dumb, okay? 787 00:45:53,793 --> 00:45:56,002 I mean, we used to do this when I was a kid, 788 00:45:56,003 --> 00:45:58,255 and it's all about using your imagination. 789 00:45:58,256 --> 00:46:00,924 All right? We're gonna pretend to sleep under the stars. 790 00:46:00,925 --> 00:46:03,551 No, Henry, you're right. It is. It's a little dumb. 791 00:46:03,552 --> 00:46:06,054 We could have painted fluorescent stars on the ceiling. 792 00:46:06,055 --> 00:46:09,432 - That would have made sense. - No! It's all good. 793 00:46:09,433 --> 00:46:11,434 It is all good, and we're gonna have a good time 794 00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:13,395 because we are gonna make some s'mores. 795 00:46:13,396 --> 00:46:16,982 We're gonna cook 'em over the open stove here, and it's gonna be great. 796 00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:19,192 - What do you say? - Sure. Why not? 797 00:46:19,193 --> 00:46:20,610 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 798 00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:23,947 Let's go! Dumb? How dare you? 799 00:46:23,948 --> 00:46:25,490 Oh. 800 00:46:25,491 --> 00:46:26,992 Here. 801 00:46:26,993 --> 00:46:28,076 - Uh-- - Dumb? 802 00:46:28,077 --> 00:46:30,203 Not so dumb? 803 00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,580 Oh, my... 804 00:46:32,581 --> 00:46:33,665 Ooh. 805 00:46:33,666 --> 00:46:35,376 Is that Mr. Saturday? 806 00:46:35,876 --> 00:46:37,253 Yes. Uh-- 807 00:46:38,546 --> 00:46:40,171 He got his days wrong. 808 00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:41,548 Aw. 809 00:46:41,549 --> 00:46:43,842 Oh. Well, you should go. 810 00:46:43,843 --> 00:46:45,385 Absolutely not. 811 00:46:45,386 --> 00:46:48,013 - Sisters over misters. - Aw. 812 00:46:52,351 --> 00:46:53,686 Seriously, though. 813 00:46:54,854 --> 00:46:57,523 - Thank you for this. - Hmm. Hmm. 814 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:04,946 Do you have any idea how many pieces of fan mail I get in here every single day? 815 00:47:04,947 --> 00:47:06,948 You know that comes with the territory. 816 00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:08,283 That's messed up. 817 00:47:08,284 --> 00:47:12,163 Well, you'll get no argument from me there. 818 00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:18,294 So, I guess I got it into my head that maybe, 819 00:47:19,712 --> 00:47:22,130 if I got put down, 820 00:47:22,131 --> 00:47:26,343 these idiots would realize that I'm not a fucking hero. 821 00:47:28,054 --> 00:47:30,597 That wouldn't have worked anyway. 822 00:47:30,598 --> 00:47:31,681 No, it wouldn't, 823 00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:35,602 because parasites like Brian Garrity would turn my execution into martyrdom. 824 00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:37,437 Yeah, that's right. 825 00:47:37,438 --> 00:47:38,856 Yeah. 826 00:47:40,232 --> 00:47:41,525 It's still my fault. 827 00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:47,405 All of it. All the lives I've taken, the network of killers I put together, 828 00:47:47,406 --> 00:47:51,202 my trial, my confessions, it's all just... 829 00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:54,872 evolved into... 830 00:47:58,501 --> 00:48:00,002 ...social contagion. 831 00:48:21,273 --> 00:48:22,899 And while you were away... 832 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,319 ...saved you a whole bunch of fan letters. 833 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,692 It's sad how pathetic I am, but you know what's even more pathetic? 834 00:49:06,402 --> 00:49:07,820 Someone who makes a show about it... 835 00:49:14,702 --> 00:49:16,620 and anyone who listens to it.