1 00:00:08,710 --> 00:00:13,500 "Dahmer, Lake and Ng, DeBardeleben, Berdella and others. 2 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:16,830 "At the core of these criminals is a need for control. 3 00:00:17,210 --> 00:00:21,670 "Killing was an act that provided a release so sexually satisfying 4 00:00:21,670 --> 00:00:23,830 "that they were compelled to repeat the fantasy 5 00:00:23,830 --> 00:00:27,170 "with multiple victims, again and again. 6 00:00:27,580 --> 00:00:31,330 "It is this continuum of violence that we will explore 7 00:00:31,330 --> 00:00:36,420 The Secret Desires of Sadistic Serial Killers." 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,920 Signed copies of Agent David Rossi's tenth-anniversary edition 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,290 of his best-seller are on sale tonight. 10 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:53,170 I find your career so fascinating. 11 00:00:53,170 --> 00:00:55,080 What's it like to interview serial killers? 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,000 Well, it's never boring. 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,960 Is that what you enjoy most about your work? 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,330 Looking evil right in the eye? 15 00:01:00,330 --> 00:01:03,080 No. It's putting killers in jail. 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,420 You know what gets me are the wives who swear 17 00:01:05,420 --> 00:01:07,540 they had no clue their husband was a serial killer. 18 00:01:07,540 --> 00:01:09,670 How can you be married to one and not know? 19 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:11,960 Theresa, would you mind calling up my car service? 20 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:13,120 Not at all. 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,000 -You'll excuse me. -Sure. 22 00:01:15,620 --> 00:01:18,330 Agent Rossi. Hi... 23 00:01:18,330 --> 00:01:21,210 Hi. Hi, I'm a big fan. 24 00:01:21,460 --> 00:01:23,620 There's not going to be a quiz. I saw you taking notes. 25 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:26,170 No, it's just for my own edification. 26 00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:28,420 Agent Rossi, are you or anyone in your department 27 00:01:28,420 --> 00:01:31,120 investigating the recent spike in homicides in Cleveland? 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,710 Uh... Not that I'm aware of. 29 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:36,210 There's been an uptick in homicides by 11% this quarter. 30 00:01:36,210 --> 00:01:40,540 The average uptick hasn't surpassed 5% in the past 10 years in Cleveland. 31 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:42,500 I'm guessing you're studying criminology? 32 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:43,620 I am. 33 00:01:44,750 --> 00:01:47,500 Sir, I think there's a serial killer here. 34 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:51,290 Well, have the police issued a statement to corroborate that? 35 00:01:51,290 --> 00:01:54,750 I filed an inquiry downtown. Nobody's called me back. 36 00:01:54,750 --> 00:01:57,750 But I know that the Coroner's office hasn't been this busy since, 37 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:00,710 like, the Butcher of Kingsbury Run in the 1930s. 38 00:02:00,710 --> 00:02:03,080 Well, what kind of homicides are we talking about here? 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,540 Okay, a man was shot in a park. 40 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:07,880 A prostitute was found with her throat slashed. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,750 A couple was shot in their car. A woman was killed in a burglary. 42 00:02:12,750 --> 00:02:16,420 Do you know what three things profilers look at to link serial crimes? 43 00:02:16,420 --> 00:02:18,750 Victimology, modus operandi, and signature. 44 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:21,580 -Good. So, are the victims similar? -No. 45 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:23,580 -Was the MO consistent? -No. 46 00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:26,790 -Was the signature consistent? -Not that I know of. 47 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:29,750 Then there's no obvious reason to suggest that this spike in violence 48 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:32,080 was due to a serial killer. 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,250 I see your point, sir, but I really... 50 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:36,500 You're bright. You obviously have a passion for this, 51 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,790 and the Bureau is always looking for good people. 52 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:43,880 So, if you get a reply from the police, or even for career advice, I'm available. 53 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,420 Okay, thanks. It was an honor to meet you. 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,330 Keep studying. And don't stop until you find all the answers you're looking for. 55 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:56,750 - -I won't. 56 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:17,750 Excuse me. 57 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,710 Get back! Get back! 58 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:24,750 It's okay. Hey, it's okay. It's okay. Look, I'm not going to hurt you, okay? 59 00:04:24,750 --> 00:04:26,460 I live in the neighborhood. 60 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:27,920 What's your address? 61 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,380 817 Tivoli. It's right down that way. 62 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,330 Look, if I was going to hurt you, I wouldn't have said, "Excuse me." 63 00:04:34,330 --> 00:04:35,460 Okay? 64 00:04:37,250 --> 00:04:38,710 Are we cool? 65 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:47,040 -What the hell, man! You scared me. -I know. I'm sorry. 66 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,170 What are you doing here? 67 00:04:50,170 --> 00:04:52,080 I was just walking home from the liquor store 68 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,080 and I saw you snooping around. What about you? 69 00:04:55,380 --> 00:05:00,540 -So, you heard what happened here? -Yeah. Poor woman. 70 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,380 All the neighbors are freaking out. 71 00:05:03,380 --> 00:05:05,710 I can't believe I didn't even know her name. 72 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:09,460 Kayla James. She was raped, too. 73 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:13,170 I can't believe this happened on my street. 74 00:05:13,170 --> 00:05:17,330 No, it's not just your street. There's been a lot of murders lately. 75 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:19,420 Really? 76 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:22,920 And it's uncharacteristically high for our city. 77 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080 You with the police or something? 78 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,620 I'm just investigating a few cases. 79 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,670 Gosh, all of a sudden, all these random, violent murders. 80 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:37,750 Something weird is going on here. 81 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:40,750 What do you mean by weird? 82 00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:57,790 Agent Rossi. Yes. 83 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,710 I'll be right down. 84 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Agent Rossi? 85 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,000 I'm Detective Dan Brady. We found your card on the victim. 86 00:06:22,330 --> 00:06:23,670 Any idea what happened here? 87 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:03,250 CLEVELAND, OHIO 88 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,330 "I never teach my pupils. 89 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:10,580 "I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn." 90 00:07:10,580 --> 00:07:11,710 Albert Einstein. 91 00:07:15,290 --> 00:07:17,420 She was found by a woman walking her dog this morning. 92 00:07:17,420 --> 00:07:19,290 Dog wouldn't stop barking. 93 00:07:19,290 --> 00:07:22,880 I just talked to her last night. I never asked her name. 94 00:07:23,710 --> 00:07:28,420 Zoe Hawkes. That's her car right there. These keys were still in her pocket. 95 00:07:28,420 --> 00:07:30,960 Car alarm was still activated. There was no sign of a break-in. 96 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,420 She had pepper spray, but didn't use it? 97 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:35,830 I don't know, maybe she didn't get the chance. 98 00:07:36,170 --> 00:07:37,500 Nobody saw or heard anything? 99 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,000 No. We went door to door. There were no witnesses. 100 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 There was blunt force trauma to her head, signs of strangulation. 101 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:45,920 Murderer asphyxiated her with the scarf she was wearing. 102 00:07:46,210 --> 00:07:49,420 Do you have any idea what she was doing snooping around this case? 103 00:07:49,420 --> 00:07:52,290 You keep talking like I know something. What case? 104 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:54,880 The resident of this house, Kayla James, was murdered and raped 105 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,120 three days ago in a burglary/homicide. 106 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,750 I think there's a serial killer here. 107 00:07:58,750 --> 00:08:02,170 And don't stop until you find all the answers you're looking for. 108 00:08:02,170 --> 00:08:03,210 I won't. 109 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,250 This is Henry wearing the booties my mom knitted him. 110 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:09,960 I can't get over his cuteness. 111 00:08:11,170 --> 00:08:16,540 Oh, and this is him wearing the customized leather jacket Auntie Penelope got him. 112 00:08:16,540 --> 00:08:19,000 When he grows up, he's going to be a rebel. 113 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,670 Is this David Rossi 114 00:08:24,670 --> 00:08:26,330 What are you doing? You're not supposed to be calling 115 00:08:26,330 --> 00:08:27,500 when you're on annual leave. 116 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:30,040 -I think my AL just ended. -What do you mean? 117 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,670 Garcia, Cleveland police is sending you some files. 118 00:08:32,670 --> 00:08:35,500 Get JJ to distribute them to the team right away. 119 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,040 -Yeah. -What are we looking at? 120 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,250 I don't know yet. 121 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:41,290 Just see if the team can find a connection with these crimes. 122 00:08:41,290 --> 00:08:42,920 I'll call you back in a few hours. 123 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Yes, sir. 124 00:08:45,620 --> 00:08:47,540 She had a notebook with her last night. 125 00:08:47,540 --> 00:08:50,580 -I saw one in her car. -Can I take a look? 126 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:53,540 It may be evidence, but I don't see why not. 127 00:08:53,540 --> 00:08:55,500 Have you been to her house yet? 128 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:58,960 I'm headed there now. I have to notify the next of kin. 129 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,710 Now, if you get a reply from the police, 130 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:06,620 or even for career advice, I'm available. 131 00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:09,670 Thanks. It was an honor to meet you. 132 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:22,750 Sheila Hawkes? -Yeah. 133 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:25,420 Hi. I'm Detective Brady with the Cleveland Police Department. 134 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:28,830 This is Agent Rossi with the FBI. May we come in? 135 00:09:28,830 --> 00:09:30,750 -Why? -It's about your daughter. 136 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,250 That's one of her journals. 137 00:09:35,250 --> 00:09:37,250 Has something happened? 138 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,420 Yes. She was murdered. 139 00:09:43,790 --> 00:09:45,960 I am so sorry, Mrs Hawkes. 140 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,420 Oh, no! No! 141 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:55,080 Where did you find her? 142 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,710 She was at a house in East Cleveland. 143 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,540 We think she may have been visiting a crime scene. 144 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Oh, God. I told her to stop doing that. I told her that was too dangerous. 145 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:12,210 Where... Where is she now? 146 00:10:12,210 --> 00:10:13,620 She's at the Coroner's office, 147 00:10:13,620 --> 00:10:15,420 and I can take you to see her when you're ready. 148 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:16,880 -Now. -Okay. 149 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,960 Right now. I have to go right now. 150 00:10:19,210 --> 00:10:23,170 Mrs Hawkes, would you mind if I stayed behind to look in her room? 151 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,170 She was so excited to meet you. You're like a... A hero to her. 152 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Mrs Hawkes, let me take you downtown now. 153 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Yeah. 154 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:49,380 Come on. 155 00:10:51,580 --> 00:10:53,080 I'll... I'll send a car for you. 156 00:11:41,290 --> 00:11:43,210 The crimes are within a seven-mile radius. 157 00:11:43,210 --> 00:11:44,330 Well, that's something. 158 00:11:44,330 --> 00:11:46,000 Yeah, but the neighborhoods are all completely different. 159 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,880 They range from poor to rich, industrial to residential. 160 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,000 The physical locations are dissimilar, but the operating zone's well-defined. 161 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:53,710 Okay, I'm in. 162 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:54,920 I see you. 163 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,580 Opening her web browser for a search history. 164 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,210 Check out her home page. 165 00:11:59,210 --> 00:12:00,330 All right, so the first thing 166 00:12:00,330 --> 00:12:01,540 she looks at when she opens her computer 167 00:12:01,540 --> 00:12:02,710 is a crime column. 168 00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:04,250 Probably to stay current on her studies. 169 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:06,790 Can you see what she worked on last? 170 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:10,750 Voilà. These are the most recently opened documents she created. 171 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:12,880 It looks like she was compiling empirical data 172 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,420 about homicide trends in Cleveland. 173 00:12:15,420 --> 00:12:16,960 Do you think she knew the killer? 174 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,380 I don't see any notes indicating suspects. 175 00:12:19,380 --> 00:12:20,960 Well, Dave, she's a criminology student. 176 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,080 She's been taught to analyze statistics and apply theory, not investigate killers. 177 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,750 Let's talk about what we know. 178 00:12:26,750 --> 00:12:31,120 All right, Victim One, Travis Bartlett, was last seen at a gay bar. 179 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,880 He was shot at night in a park. 180 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,540 Victim Two, Lily Nicks, a 34-year-old prostitute. 181 00:12:36,540 --> 00:12:38,120 Her throat was slashed. 182 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,420 Victims Three and Four, June Appleby and Troy Wertsler, 183 00:12:41,420 --> 00:12:44,500 were shot in their car at a parking lot outside of a movie theater. 184 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:48,880 And Victim Five was a 28-year-old single woman, Kayla James, 185 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,380 killed in her home. She was bound, suffocated with a bag over her head, 186 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:54,540 evidence of rape. 187 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:57,040 And then the sixth victim is Zoe. 188 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,120 Victimology, weapons used and COD are all different. 189 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,380 I mean, it's hard to imagine it's even the same UnSub. 190 00:13:02,380 --> 00:13:04,080 It can't be a coincidence 191 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,000 that Zoe goes to Kayla James' house and gets murdered. 192 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,620 All right, let's say it is the same killer. 193 00:13:08,620 --> 00:13:10,210 Does anybody see a pattern? 194 00:13:10,210 --> 00:13:15,040 Well, maybe. Okay, in the first crime, he shoots the victim. 195 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,750 The second crime, he rapes a woman and slashes her throat, 196 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:22,330 that's more personal. In the third crime, he escalates to killing two people. 197 00:13:22,330 --> 00:13:25,620 In the fourth, he escalates even more by raping a woman, 198 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,290 binding her and suffocating her. 199 00:13:27,290 --> 00:13:29,040 So if it is the same UnSub, you could argue 200 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,290 that there's a progression of violence with every kill. 201 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:35,920 It could be an anger excitation offender getting more daring with each crime. 202 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,170 I think I got something here. Look at this. 203 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:44,120 The slashes in the prostitute's throat, they're all shallow, unsure cuts. 204 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:47,120 The Kayla James crime scene, 205 00:13:47,710 --> 00:13:50,670 a telephone cord, rope, and duct tape were used. 206 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:53,330 It's like he couldn't decide how to bind her. 207 00:13:53,330 --> 00:13:56,790 So without a gun, he's sloppy, inexperienced. 208 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,250 The young couple shot in the car. 209 00:14:00,670 --> 00:14:02,420 That crime scene remind you of anything? 210 00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:04,210 Yeah, they were shot with a .44 Bulldog, 211 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:05,880 just like the Son of Sam used on his victims, 212 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,120 which were also young couples in parked cars. 213 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,380 And it might be nothing, 214 00:14:11,380 --> 00:14:13,080 but you're right, there is a parallel there. 215 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,580 With the second victim it's hard not to think of Jack the Ripper. 216 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,500 The obvious similarity being 217 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,670 it's a prostitute whose throat was slashed. 218 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:24,080 Kayla James was bound, tortured, raped 219 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,290 with a plastic bag over her head, like BTK. 220 00:14:30,460 --> 00:14:32,040 What about victim number one? 221 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,380 Garcia, what neighborhood was he found in? 222 00:14:34,380 --> 00:14:37,080 At a park in the Kingsbury Run area. 223 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,710 Zoe reminded me last night that Cleveland's most famous serial killer 224 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:44,040 was the Butcher of Kingsbury Run. 225 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:49,040 He found his victims in gay bars, shot them and dumped their body there. 226 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:52,830 Travis Bartlett was last seen at a gay bar 227 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,670 and his body was found in Kingsbury Park. 228 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:01,420 So these are copycats of famous serial killers? 229 00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:04,460 He's a serial killer studying serial killers. 230 00:15:08,620 --> 00:15:10,420 See you in Cleveland, Dave. 231 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:54,790 -Guys. -Hey, Dave. 232 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:57,120 We're in that room. Coffee's brewing. 233 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,750 I'll get started on the evidence boards. 234 00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:02,540 Detective Brady's our point. I'll let you all introduce yourselves. 235 00:16:03,790 --> 00:16:06,420 JJ, can you help me out with something? 236 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:07,830 Sure. 237 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:12,040 This has to be confidential. 238 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,460 I know it may seem far-fetched, 239 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:17,960 but copycat killers are not entirely uncommon. 240 00:16:18,210 --> 00:16:20,420 This one happens to be copying several different killers. 241 00:16:20,420 --> 00:16:22,040 But if he's trying to be the Butcher of Kingsbury Run, 242 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,210 why didn't he cut up and mutilate the victims, like the real guy? 243 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:26,710 No, it was seven weeks ago. He was just getting started. 244 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:29,790 Beginning killers are often frightened of the crime itself. 245 00:16:29,790 --> 00:16:32,330 They're more interested in getting it over with as quickly as possible 246 00:16:32,330 --> 00:16:33,830 and fleeing the scene. 247 00:16:33,830 --> 00:16:35,170 He was just using the Butcher's ruse 248 00:16:35,170 --> 00:16:36,920 as a way to lure the victim to be alone with him. 249 00:16:37,170 --> 00:16:40,040 By the time he killed Kayla James three days ago, he'd progressed. 250 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,580 He came very close to copying all of the BTK's MO. 251 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:45,210 He's reading, learning and borrowing from others 252 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:47,000 because he doesn't know who he is yet. 253 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,880 And because of this, we think he's young and impressionable, 254 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,000 maybe even a student. 255 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Someone probably enrolled in criminology classes. 256 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,330 Our technical analyst is going through names of local students right now. 257 00:16:55,330 --> 00:16:58,540 Up to this point changing his MO has prevented investigators 258 00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:00,580 from linking the crimes. That's why we need to work quickly. 259 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,250 You're sure about this? 260 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,790 It's not a coincidence that all of these random, violent murders 261 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:08,040 in a localized area are copycats of serial killers. 262 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,000 It's as if all the worst serial killers had converged on Cleveland. 263 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,830 Every time he plans to kill, the murder weapon, 264 00:17:12,830 --> 00:17:15,170 the MO, and the victimology will all change. 265 00:17:44,830 --> 00:17:46,420 Detective, will you let your team know 266 00:17:46,420 --> 00:17:47,960 we're ready to give a preliminary profile? 267 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,790 -Sure. I've got to go. -Thanks. 268 00:17:49,790 --> 00:17:53,540 Hotch, I'm going to step out for this one. Clear my head. 269 00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:55,330 Okay. 270 00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:58,120 Garcia found three male students 271 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,540 enrolled in criminology classes with felony records. 272 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:01,750 Good, we'll interview them. 273 00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:04,120 I don't think we need to. One of them is studying abroad. 274 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,330 The other two are back in jail on other charges. 275 00:18:07,170 --> 00:18:10,170 Tell Garcia to check enrollment in online and correspondence courses. 276 00:18:10,170 --> 00:18:11,290 See if we have any luck with those parameters. 277 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:12,330 All right. 278 00:18:17,380 --> 00:18:19,500 Can you guys handle the profile? 279 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,040 -Yeah. Everything okay? -Everything's fine. 280 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:26,210 We have six homicides in a seven-mile radius in East Cleveland. 281 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:29,830 Now this small zone indicates that he's a geographically stable offender. 282 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:32,830 This type of offender is characterized as young, 283 00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:35,080 socially immature, of average intelligence 284 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,290 with psychopathic personality traits. 285 00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:39,920 They also usually live alone and have an antisocial nature. 286 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:42,750 A serial killer's first murder is very telling. 287 00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:45,670 This UnSub's first murder, he chose the MO of Cleveland's own 288 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:47,670 Butcher of Kingsbury Run. 289 00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:50,120 The Butcher isn't as well known as other famous serial killers, 290 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,000 but he is a local legend. 291 00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:53,920 And because he picked the Butcher to be first, 292 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,460 we believe he's a native of Cleveland 293 00:18:55,460 --> 00:18:57,380 and probably grew up hearing stories of the Butcher. 294 00:18:57,670 --> 00:19:00,170 This is someone who is obsessed with serial killers. 295 00:19:00,170 --> 00:19:02,170 His computer will be filled with research on them. 296 00:19:02,170 --> 00:19:04,540 He'll have abundant images of murderers on his computer 297 00:19:04,540 --> 00:19:08,500 and possibly even snuff films. He uses these like pornography. 298 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:11,670 They provide some sort of sexual release. 299 00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:30,120 I think he went back to relive his crime. 300 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,540 When Zoe showed up, she became a victim of opportunity. 301 00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:35,920 It's the same theory we arrived at on the plane. 302 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,830 He strangled her with her own scarf. 303 00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:39,880 He didn't plan it. I think she surprised him. 304 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:45,960 I told her not to stop until she found the answers she was looking for. 305 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,580 I didn't think she would go to a crime scene. 306 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,880 Her mom said it's something that she does all the time. 307 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,620 She probably would have gone anyway. 308 00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:57,620 But it's because of what I said that she was encouraged to go there last night. 309 00:19:57,620 --> 00:19:59,500 Dave, what are you doing? 310 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:01,580 She came to me and I dismissed her. 311 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:03,960 Try not to personalize it. 312 00:20:05,460 --> 00:20:09,210 I was the last one she talked to before she was murdered. 313 00:20:09,210 --> 00:20:11,380 How is this not personal, Aaron? 314 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:15,500 Okay. It's personal. 315 00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:19,380 That doesn't change how we go about finding her killer. 316 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,080 We know that violent criminals develop a signature over a series of crimes. 317 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,250 If he's young, he probably hasn't even figured out what his is yet. 318 00:20:30,790 --> 00:20:33,580 Find the signature, we can link the crimes. 319 00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,040 He's probably monitoring the news, 320 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,960 seeing if the police have connected them yet. 321 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,500 We can use that, we can utilize the media. 322 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:41,420 And I think I know who we can talk to. 323 00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:56,880 I knew homicides were up, but nobody said anything about a serial killer. 324 00:20:57,580 --> 00:21:01,250 Why do I get a visit from the BAU? 325 00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:04,080 You're Paula McConnell, Cleveland's number one source in crime news. 326 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,170 You're detailed, you have a following. He's reading you. 327 00:21:07,460 --> 00:21:10,540 We need you to write that the police have found his signature. 328 00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:13,420 You can help us by explaining what a signature is in your article. 329 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:15,750 It's a killer's personal stamp, his distinctive touch 330 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:17,670 that he leaves at the scene of every crime. 331 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,880 Well, I've been doing this for 18 years. I know what a signature is, honey. 332 00:21:23,290 --> 00:21:25,670 Well, we just really need you to be detailed about this. 333 00:21:25,670 --> 00:21:27,540 We're speaking directly to him. 334 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,580 -Through my column? -He's doing something, 335 00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:34,710 a behavioral impulse he feels compelled to do, 336 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:39,500 but a need-driven act to get a sexual release that's specific to his psyche. 337 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,460 This repetitive behavior at each crime scene will lead us to him. 338 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:44,580 Let me take a stab at it. 339 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:46,290 - - 340 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:50,830 Yeah, Reid. They just found another body. 341 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:59,620 They're bringing him up right now. 342 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:04,210 Teenagers found him a little over an hour ago. 343 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,290 It's petechiae in the whites of his eyes. 344 00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:11,880 Judging from the bruising, he was probably strangled with a wire. 345 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:13,290 Is this our guy? 346 00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:15,920 It's got to be. A jogger doesn't get garroted every day. 347 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,380 Whatever signature he may have left 348 00:22:17,380 --> 00:22:19,330 was probably washed away in the water. 349 00:22:19,330 --> 00:22:21,040 Well, who's he mimicking now? 350 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,750 Bike Path Rapist Altemio Sanchez comes to mind. 351 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:26,500 He trolled bike paths near Buffalo, garroting his victims. 352 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,170 It looks like he copied everything except for the rape. 353 00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:32,330 Strangulation's a repetition of his last murder with Zoe. 354 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:34,000 It's the first time he's repeated himself. 355 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,330 Zoe's murder was spontaneous, though. He didn't plan it. 356 00:22:36,330 --> 00:22:39,120 He acted on instinct and did what came naturally to him. 357 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,750 Maybe what came naturally felt good to him and he wanted to feel it again. 358 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:44,830 If he's starting to repeat a pattern, he may have found himself. 359 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,380 Zoe Hawkes. H-A-W-K-E-S. 360 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,500 Very good. 361 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,040 I'm Danny. I want you to call us if you have any questions at all. 362 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,040 We're going to take great care of her, okay? You're all set. 363 00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:35,540 Um, do I pay the bill here? 364 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,750 No, ma'am. The bill's been taken care of by an anonymous donor. 365 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,380 See anything else in there? 366 00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:48,710 Just the notations of an observant student. 367 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:51,290 I've been thinking, though. 368 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:53,670 Zoe got all of her information from the newspapers 369 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:55,580 and from Paula McConnell's column. 370 00:23:55,580 --> 00:23:58,580 There's no way she could have known about every homicide in the city. 371 00:23:58,580 --> 00:24:00,540 Not every homicide's reported in the papers. 372 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:02,120 So, how do we know the UnSub didn't commit more murders 373 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:03,620 than the ones noted in her journals? 374 00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:04,880 We don't. 375 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:08,170 We can check missing persons and see if anyone was last seen 376 00:24:08,170 --> 00:24:09,920 in the UnSub's operating zone. 377 00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:12,710 Hmm. 378 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:13,880 What? 379 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,500 Well, a young person's mind is so active. 380 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:19,880 Yours. Zoe's. And I imagine this UnSub's, too. 381 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,170 I think when we get him, he'll be curious. 382 00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:23,210 He'll ask questions. 383 00:24:23,790 --> 00:24:25,460 Rossi, heads up. She knows. 384 00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:28,830 Did you do this? 385 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:34,120 I don't need or want your money. 386 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:37,830 I have taken care of my daughter for 22 years, 387 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:40,330 and she is still my responsibility. 388 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:42,710 I don't need any help from you. 389 00:24:45,170 --> 00:24:47,040 You didn't even know her. 390 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,750 I'm sorry if I've offended you. 391 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:54,620 Just leave us alone. 392 00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:07,380 All right. We found another body. East Cleveland. Strangulation marks. 393 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:13,670 This was recent. The bruises on her neck are still reddish. 394 00:25:13,670 --> 00:25:15,830 No other obvious signs of trauma. 395 00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:18,040 Well, this isn't a bike path like the last one. 396 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,120 Which serial killer is he mimicking now? 397 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:23,960 I don't think he is mimicking any more. He's starting to show consistency. 398 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,880 I think he's developing his own style. 399 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,250 Has anybody touched her? 400 00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:29,620 No. They had instructions to wait for us and the M.E. 401 00:25:29,620 --> 00:25:30,830 Where is he? 402 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:32,120 Dr Edwards. 403 00:25:33,710 --> 00:25:34,920 Here he comes. 404 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:40,170 Hi, Agent Hotchner. Um, could you take a look at this spot on her forehead? 405 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,790 That's strange. Let me swab her and get it back to the lab. 406 00:25:45,790 --> 00:25:46,960 Thanks. 407 00:25:50,380 --> 00:25:53,580 Three murders in the last three days. Something's causing his frenzy. 408 00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:57,250 Could be a drastic change in his life. Something he lost control of. 409 00:25:57,670 --> 00:26:02,250 Or it could be something he gained control of, like himself. 410 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,210 If he's finally defined himself as a strangler, he may just be practicing. 411 00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:11,210 Perfecting his style. He may have awakened. 412 00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:15,040 Coroner just called. Preliminary tests confirmed cetyl alcohol 413 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,880 on the homeless woman's forehead. 414 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,420 -He sterilized it 415 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,830 Maybe he did something to her forehead. 416 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:23,710 Used an alcohol wipe to remove evidence. 417 00:26:23,710 --> 00:26:26,830 Well, if that's the case, it certainly wasn't necessary to the crime. 418 00:26:26,830 --> 00:26:28,920 This could be part of his signature. 419 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,960 We should look at other victims to see if he did something similar. 420 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Any evidence on the last victim was washed away in the water. 421 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,960 And all the other bodies were either buried or cremated. 422 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,380 Except for one. 423 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:52,380 I know you don't want to see me, but please hear me out. 424 00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:55,750 We need Zoe's body to go back to the Coroner's office. 425 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:58,580 Zoe's murderer left a clue on her body. 426 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:01,580 There's a chance we can find him from this clue, 427 00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:03,500 but we have to examine her again. 428 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:06,790 All I want to do is put her to rest. 429 00:27:06,790 --> 00:27:09,000 Zoe chose to study criminology 430 00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:12,750 because she believed in bringing criminals to justice. 431 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,750 I can't guarantee the evidence hasn't been compromised. 432 00:27:21,670 --> 00:27:23,670 The mortician hadn't touched her yet. 433 00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:27,210 Even so, she's been transported more times than I'd like. 434 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:29,250 I don't want anyone to get their hopes up. 435 00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:32,000 Just make sure the evidence gets to Quantico quickly. 436 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:35,420 East Cleveland homicides, first quarter to date. 437 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,250 Five out of nine unsolved. 438 00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:40,920 January 22, prostitute murdered. Downtown at 5th and Main. 439 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,250 January 9. Man shot at Kingsbury Park. No witnesses. 440 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:47,750 February 15. Kayla James. Lived alone. 441 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:49,120 First home invasion... 442 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:52,080 February 8. Young couple shot in car. No apparent motive. 443 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Note to self. Investigate. Why are locations different? 444 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,580 Page 47. Rossi's book. There are no coincidences. 445 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:04,580 Garcia. You got something? 446 00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:07,580 Yeah, the boys in the lab found trace amounts of saliva on Zoe's forehead. 447 00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:11,540 Enough for a DNA sample, so we got a CODIS match on Eric Ryan Olson, 448 00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:14,170 23, Cleveland native. Did two and a half years 449 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:16,580 for attempted sexual assault and was paroled six months ago. 450 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040 We thought for sure he'd be a student. 451 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,250 That's because he was. While he was in the slammer, 452 00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:23,670 he took independent correspondent classes 453 00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:26,790 in Forensic Science and criminology from an out-of-state school. 454 00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:28,790 Call the team. Let's get a search warrant. 455 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:29,880 Yeah. 456 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,540 Clear. -Clear. 457 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,210 Reid, check the computer. 458 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:41,380 Detective, we should talk to the neighbors. 459 00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:43,380 Find out where he goes, where he might be on a weeknight. 460 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:46,380 Aaron, he's reading my books. 461 00:29:02,250 --> 00:29:03,540 Reid, anything? 462 00:29:09,170 --> 00:29:11,250 Al's Alehouse. That's like five miles away. 463 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,540 It's on his schedule for tonight. 464 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:17,830 -Have a good night. -See you tomorrow. 465 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,620 He was alone at the bar. -When did he leave? 466 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:46,250 -Like ten minutes ago. -Did he talk to anyone? 467 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:50,170 Linda. He left right after she did. 468 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Thanks. 469 00:30:06,380 --> 00:30:07,710 Got it, Hotch. 470 00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:10,500 Manager says he may have followed one of the waitresses out of the bar. 471 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,250 She walks home through Cedar Park. 472 00:30:12,250 --> 00:30:13,880 We just passed Cedar Park. 473 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,710 FBI! Get off the girl! Get off the girl! 474 00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:34,080 Okay. It's okay. You're okay. MORGAN: Stay down. Just stay down. 475 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,210 Get off me! PRENTISS: It's all right. 476 00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:36,380 Get off me! 477 00:30:36,380 --> 00:30:37,830 Hold on. LINDA: Get off me! 478 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:39,580 Stop. We're trying to help you. 479 00:30:39,580 --> 00:30:41,210 What? That's my boyfriend! 480 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,790 Didn't see that coming. JJ: How could she not know? 481 00:30:54,790 --> 00:30:56,670 Kenneth Bianchi's girlfriend had no idea 482 00:30:56,670 --> 00:30:58,710 he was one of the Hillside Stranglers. 483 00:30:59,670 --> 00:31:02,880 -Just like BTK's wife. -What do we know about her? 484 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,380 Her name's Linda Jones. No criminal record. 485 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:06,750 They met online six weeks ago. 486 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,250 No, he can't be this guy. 487 00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:14,580 -We found his DNA on a murder victim. -What? 488 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,120 We also think he's responsible for the murder of seven other people 489 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,290 over the last seven weeks. Two of his victims were raped. 490 00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:26,000 I think I'm going to be sick. 491 00:31:29,170 --> 00:31:31,380 -Hold on. Okay, okay. - 492 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,170 Against my counsel, my client would like to talk to Agent Rossi. 493 00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:44,120 We talked about him being curious, asking questions. 494 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,620 If he thinks he knows you, he might open up. 495 00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:48,670 -I'll keep him talking. -Good. 496 00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:57,540 Agent Rossi. Big fan. 497 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:03,250 We have some information that would be of great interest to you. 498 00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:06,460 My ears are burning. 499 00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:10,620 My lawyer here explains that I'm being charged with eight murders 500 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:13,290 and that I'm probably looking at the death penalty. 501 00:32:13,290 --> 00:32:16,080 I have one very important question for you. 502 00:32:16,670 --> 00:32:18,920 Are you sure it's just eight? 503 00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:22,250 What? 504 00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:24,540 We checked missing persons. 505 00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:27,080 Since he started killing, four people have been reported missing 506 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,460 in East Cleveland neighborhoods. 507 00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:30,790 We can't rule out any of them as his possible victims. 508 00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:32,620 He marked pages on several serial killers. 509 00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:34,420 We don't know which ones he tried to copycat. 510 00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:37,620 We're screwed then. The D.A.'s going to have to offer him a deal. 511 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:39,250 The D.A. doesn't have to give him the option. 512 00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:42,540 That's easy for you to say. You get to go home tomorrow. 513 00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:45,620 What do I tell the families of the missing? "Sorry. No idea." 514 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:48,000 Detective, we're not going to leave until we can give you 515 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,620 and the families some closure. 516 00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:51,120 And how are you going to do that? 517 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:53,880 Hotch. 518 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960 I need something, anything that might show 519 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,830 where he was trawling for more victims. 520 00:32:57,830 --> 00:33:01,210 Once the D.A. gets here, we have a lot to talk about. 521 00:33:01,210 --> 00:33:04,000 What do you think you're going to get out of this? 522 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120 I don't know. We'll see. 523 00:33:06,670 --> 00:33:08,790 You don't have to say anything else, Eric. 524 00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:12,040 You got to speak to him. Now let's just wait for the D.A. 525 00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:16,880 I don't know how to break it to you, kid, but you don't have a card to play here. 526 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,460 We're three steps ahead of you. 527 00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:21,830 Oh. Really? 528 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:24,040 We've already considered the possibility 529 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,330 that you killed other people. 530 00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:29,210 We knew you were young, wanted to experiment. 531 00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:32,670 It was likely you would copycat as many serial killers as possible 532 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:35,880 to figure out who you are and what you liked. 533 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:42,540 So, let me ask you a question. How do you know 534 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:46,830 you haven't told me already where the other bodies are buried? 535 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:54,750 We've been through everything. 536 00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:56,580 He marked up Rossi's books. Check the bookcase. 537 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,040 Maybe he was scouting for locations to commit more murders. 538 00:34:02,330 --> 00:34:04,500 -Pictures. -What? 539 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:09,250 Framed photographs in his hallway. Nothing else... Nothing else is framed. 540 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:11,080 They look like originals. Let me call you right back, Hotch. 541 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Okay. 542 00:34:16,670 --> 00:34:19,000 I need to ask you about your sex life. 543 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,710 That's personal. 544 00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:26,210 Your boyfriend's a serial killer. Your relationship is no longer private. 545 00:34:29,170 --> 00:34:31,880 It's completely normal to experiment with sex. 546 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:36,170 Okay, it might be normal to have sex in a public park, but the other things? 547 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:41,540 We were just role-playing. Every couple has fantasies. 548 00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:44,000 Did you ever think it was strange that your boyfriend 549 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,880 has fantasies about strangling and raping women? 550 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,170 Not women. Just me. 551 00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:59,330 Did he kiss you on the forehead, too? 552 00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:04,120 How did you know that? 553 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:08,380 Now, were you sick much as a kid? 554 00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:13,500 I got strep throat every flu season. 555 00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:16,710 Did you just profile that about me? 556 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:20,460 Her name was Zoe Hawkes. The girl you killed three days ago. 557 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:23,460 We found your DNA on her forehead. 558 00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:25,290 It'll never be admissible in court. 559 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:27,500 Her body was removed from a state facility and exposed to... 560 00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:30,460 Now most people would ask what you did. 561 00:35:30,830 --> 00:35:34,380 I know what you did. You kissed her on the forehead. 562 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,500 What I want to know is, why? 563 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,080 Why do you think someone would do that, Agent Rossi? 564 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,460 Well, that's why I asked if you had been ill much as a child. 565 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,790 You see, you're slight, pale, sickly. 566 00:35:53,290 --> 00:35:56,210 Most parents, they kiss their children on the forehead 567 00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:58,620 to see if their temperature is warm. 568 00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:02,120 Now my theory is that you, somehow in your development, 569 00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:06,420 warped that caring gesture into something perverse. 570 00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:14,170 So, did you sit next to Zoe 571 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:17,830 Is that why you kissed her? 572 00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:22,000 That's a really interesting theory. 573 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,580 Make a great chapter in one of your books. 574 00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:30,710 I found pictures on his computer 575 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:33,830 in a special folder he created. They're scenic places in the city. 576 00:36:33,830 --> 00:36:36,580 Three of them I recognize from his crime scenes. 577 00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:39,420 But there are more pictures of places I don't recognize. 578 00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:41,420 -E-mail them as soon as you can.-All right. 579 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:43,830 This guy's getting off on those photos. 580 00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:45,460 Then what does he need Linda for? 581 00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:49,250 Did he have any other strange preferences in bed? 582 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:50,380 No. 583 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:53,170 -Did he ever role-play by tying you up? -No. 584 00:36:53,830 --> 00:36:58,460 -Are you sure? - Yes, I'm sure. 585 00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:04,080 He liked... He liked being exhibitionist. 586 00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:08,830 It was really the only way he'd get excited. 587 00:37:08,830 --> 00:37:10,080 What do you mean? 588 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,420 Well, he didn't like having sex in bed, 589 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,210 so he just took me to public places. 590 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,040 Where? 591 00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:26,290 - Do I have to tell you this? -Please. 592 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,080 Okay. 593 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:29,830 Um... 594 00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:35,210 The first time was at Kingsbury Park. 595 00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:42,210 And then at a movie theater. In the parking lot. In my car. 596 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:48,210 Did he ever take you to the 2nd Street Bridge, off the bike path? 597 00:37:49,790 --> 00:37:51,040 Yeah. 598 00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:54,420 That's where the jogger was killed. 599 00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:57,460 He can only have sex with Linda when he's revisiting his crimes. 600 00:37:57,460 --> 00:37:58,920 If that's the case, what were they doing at the park 601 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,500 where we picked them up? 602 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,710 I need you to write down for me all the places he took you to have sex. 603 00:38:10,670 --> 00:38:11,790 Okay. 604 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,670 The D.A.'s not going to need to negotiate a deal with you. 605 00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:36,500 "Cedar Park, Edgewater Channel, Cuyahoga Valley Park, Euclid Creek." 606 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:42,330 We'll send units in the morning to search for the bodies. 607 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,880 -How'd you find out? -Eric. 608 00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:50,330 Is it something that I did? 609 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:52,710 You needed to revisit the crime scenes 610 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:57,000 because it was the only way for you to get a gratifying sexual release. 611 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,710 But revisiting the scenes wasn't enough. 612 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:05,710 You had to capture it on film, put it on your computer, 613 00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:10,540 display it on your wall so you could look at it every day. 614 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:15,830 Eric, we should talk privately. This isn't over. 615 00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:25,830 I always knew I'd end up back in prison. Just a matter of when. 616 00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:29,500 You can come interview me if you want. 617 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:31,620 I read in one of your books 618 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:33,920 that's how you built your behavioral database, right? 619 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:36,710 Maybe you can learn something from me. 620 00:39:40,210 --> 00:39:42,540 I got a lot of questions myself. 621 00:39:44,830 --> 00:39:47,580 I'll be honest with you if you're honest with me. 622 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,580 Because the one thing that you always ask is the one that I don't understand. 623 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,210 Why? 624 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,420 I have no idea why. 625 00:40:02,170 --> 00:40:06,460 I see a guy walking down the street with a stupid look on his face 626 00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:09,080 and I want to bash him over the head with a bottle. 627 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,670 To me, that's normal. 628 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:17,500 It's weird to me that no one else feels that way. 629 00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:24,330 It's all I think about. I can't stop. 630 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,080 This is not up for debate. Cancel the rest of the dates. 631 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,500 Is everything okay? 632 00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:04,210 Why do people want to hear me talk about serial killers? 633 00:41:04,210 --> 00:41:08,170 -Is it that entertaining? -There's a public fascination with them. 634 00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:11,880 Sometimes I wonder if my books are doing more harm than good. 635 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,210 My senior year at Georgetown, I was graduating, I did not have a clue 636 00:41:16,210 --> 00:41:18,170 what I was going to do with my life. 637 00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:22,040 And one day I was in the campus bookstore, and you were there, 638 00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:26,210 promoting your second book. I sat through your whole talk. 639 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:29,460 You never told me. 640 00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:32,080 I asked you what it was you were most proud of, 641 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,420 and you showed us a picture of a boy from Charleston. 642 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:39,250 Brent Roberts. A neighbor took him. 643 00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:41,540 He was found alive. One of the few. 644 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:48,210 That night I bought your book. Applied to the Academy the next fall. 645 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:55,000 I'll see you at the airport. 646 00:42:04,210 --> 00:42:07,460 Austrian novelist Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach wrote, 647 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,170 "In youth we learn. In age we understand." 648 00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:24,040 I hear you caught him. 649 00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:28,580 We did. 650 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,540 Is he going to prison? 651 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:33,920 For the rest of his life. 652 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,460 Doesn't make me feel better. 653 00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:42,210 He's alive. Zoe's not. 654 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,210 But she'd be pleased that you caught him. 655 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,210 I hope so.