1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:05,548 --> 00:00:08,926 BRUCKHE/MER: Hi, I'm Jerry Bruckheimer, the producer of Déjé Vu. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:09,010 --> 00:00:10,595 If you're watching this, 5 00:00:10,678 --> 00:00:14,432 you've activated a seamless behind the scenes experience 6 00:00:14,473 --> 00:00:18,853 that will continue throughout the film, with myself, director Tony Scott, 7 00:00:21,063 --> 00:00:22,857 I hope you enj0Y it- 8 00:00:23,774 --> 00:00:25,943 MARSILIII Hello, I'm Bill Marsilii, 9 00:00:25,985 --> 00:00:30,156 writer of Déjé Vu, with my friend Terry Rossio. 10 00:00:30,615 --> 00:00:33,826 SCOTT: Hi, I'm Tony Scott. I'm the director of Déjé Vu, 11 00:00:34,285 --> 00:00:35,912 and I hope you enjoy it. 12 00:00:36,954 --> 00:00:40,917 I say what always attracts me to material is difference. 13 00:00:40,958 --> 00:00:44,003 And I've never done anything like this before, you know. 14 00:00:44,086 --> 00:00:46,005 And if you look at my last four movies, 15 00:00:46,088 --> 00:00:48,049 they've all been very different approaches 16 00:00:48,132 --> 00:00:49,717 to, you know, different material. 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,095 And this was a real chance for me to actually pull it off, and... 18 00:00:53,137 --> 00:00:55,598 When I do interviews and stuff, and do press, the... 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,266 I always try to come up with a one-liner, 20 00:00:57,308 --> 00:00:59,143 you know, that says what the movie is about, 21 00:00:59,185 --> 00:01:02,855 and I found this impossible to come up with a one-liner, 22 00:01:04,523 --> 00:01:07,985 It's a love story, it's a little bit of time travel, 23 00:01:08,027 --> 00:01:12,281 it's science fact rather than science fiction, it involves a terrorist. 24 00:01:12,323 --> 00:01:15,409 It's a bunch of different stories that are woven together, 25 00:01:15,493 --> 00:01:18,037 but it's all woven together around this love story. 26 00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:23,209 You know, Began/u for me is one of the toughest creative experiences, 27 00:01:23,292 --> 00:01:26,087 because the world of science fiction, 28 00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:28,381 if you get it a little bit wrong, you get it drastically wrong, 29 00:01:28,464 --> 00:01:31,467 especially when they're trying to incorporate science fiction 30 00:01:31,509 --> 00:01:34,595 into what is supposedly a real world. 31 00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:37,807 So, I struggled conceptually. 32 00:01:37,848 --> 00:01:41,185 I actually... I struggled because I wanted to make it science fact, 33 00:01:41,227 --> 00:01:43,729 and the writers were determined to make it science fiction. 34 00:01:43,813 --> 00:01:47,108 So, I won't say I struggled, I struggled with them, 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,444 to get them off science fiction and into science fact. 36 00:01:51,362 --> 00:01:55,825 MARSILII: I first became involved with the story that would become Détiavu 37 00:01:58,536 --> 00:02:02,456 And Terry called me and I told him I wanted to write a spec this time, 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,211 that is, to write a completed screenplay on my own, 39 00:02:07,295 --> 00:02:12,717 without any studio notes, without any pay either, actually. 40 00:02:14,176 --> 00:02:16,887 And I told him I wanted to write a love story. 41 00:02:17,888 --> 00:02:21,934 And Terry really did something kind of charming after that. 42 00:02:22,018 --> 00:02:26,772 Unsolicited, he started sending me ideas 43 00:02:26,856 --> 00:02:29,066 for screenplays, 44 00:02:29,108 --> 00:02:32,945 the rationale being that if I liked one of them, I'd write it 45 00:02:33,029 --> 00:02:35,531 and he and Ted would be my producers again. 46 00:02:36,115 --> 00:02:38,409 And I might have mentioned to him... 47 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:40,453 I think I told him about a movie that I'd always liked 48 00:02:42,747 --> 00:02:45,750 But something I said jogged Terry's memory 49 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:50,463 and reminded him of a one-page treatment he had 50 00:02:53,591 --> 00:02:57,803 And he started telling me this story, it was just six paragraphs that he had, 51 00:02:57,887 --> 00:03:01,474 about a detective whose girlfriend gets murdered 52 00:03:01,557 --> 00:03:04,852 and somehow he gets a hold of this device 53 00:03:04,935 --> 00:03:09,398 that allows him to look roughly one week into the past. 54 00:03:10,358 --> 00:03:13,110 And in the process of using this device, 55 00:03:13,194 --> 00:03:16,280 he watches the last few days of his girlfriend's life 56 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:21,786 And as Terry was telling me about it, I started to get incredibly excited, 57 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:26,457 and I said, "Wait, wait, wait. It's brilliant. I love it, but one thought. 58 00:03:28,292 --> 00:03:31,629 "While he's watching the last few days of her life. 59 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:33,714 "The first time he sees her should be at her autopsy, 60 00:03:33,798 --> 00:03:37,134 “cause, you know, how cool is that? She's already dead." 61 00:03:37,176 --> 00:03:41,430 BRUCKHE/MER: Terry Rossio is one of the writers of Pirates of the Caribbean 62 00:03:41,472 --> 00:03:42,807 and also worked on National Treasure, 63 00:03:42,848 --> 00:03:45,893 and he came to us with a new writer named Bill Marsilii. 64 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:48,312 And I think they met online. 65 00:03:49,021 --> 00:03:50,773 And Terry liked his ideas 66 00:03:50,815 --> 00:03:53,401 and kind of worked on a screenplay together. 67 00:03:53,484 --> 00:03:54,652 So, knowing Terry was involved, 68 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,405 I knew it was going to be an excellent piece of work, 69 00:03:57,488 --> 00:04:01,867 and also, you know, Ted Elliott was also involved in the creation of it. 70 00:04:01,951 --> 00:04:03,035 And you're always looking for something 71 00:04:03,119 --> 00:04:04,787 that's fresh and unique and different. 72 00:04:04,829 --> 00:04:07,665 That's what Déja Vu is. It's a really fresh idea. 73 00:04:07,706 --> 00:04:09,792 I haven't seen a picture like this. And we read the script. 74 00:04:09,834 --> 00:04:12,545 The script was delivered to us, you read it. 75 00:04:12,628 --> 00:04:15,506 One of those screenplays that you couldn't put down. 76 00:04:16,006 --> 00:04:18,050 You had to keep reading it. 77 00:04:18,634 --> 00:04:22,513 You had to watch, I guess, the time 78 00:04:22,596 --> 00:04:24,515 because it went by so quickly. 79 00:04:24,807 --> 00:04:26,892 SCOTT: Yeah, but we did have a few stumbling blocks. 80 00:04:26,976 --> 00:04:30,855 Our first one, trying to blow up a ferry in the Mississippi. 81 00:04:30,896 --> 00:04:33,190 The biggest concern was that 82 00:04:33,274 --> 00:04:34,984 the size of the explosion we wanted to do 83 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:38,362 could actually breach the banks of the Mississippi. 84 00:04:38,904 --> 00:04:42,616 So that was a little bit of a concern, 85 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:46,328 but people were amazingly cooperative. 86 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:48,706 I think generally the people in New Orleans are, 87 00:04:48,747 --> 00:04:51,959 but they were just so grateful for the fact we were there 88 00:04:52,042 --> 00:04:55,045 and we were employing a lot of people in the city. 89 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:58,549 And I think our biggest hardship was, when we first went down, 90 00:04:58,591 --> 00:05:01,886 there was no room service and no laundry. 91 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:04,180 Other than that, it was great. 92 00:05:11,896 --> 00:05:13,689 MARSILII: That's not a model, 93 00:05:14,565 --> 00:05:17,151 and those are not CGI people. 94 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:24,241 Tony made the, I think, brilliant though horrifying choice 95 00:05:24,325 --> 00:05:26,076 to do it practical. 96 00:05:27,786 --> 00:05:33,292 Many of the effects in the movie were done for real. 97 00:05:34,752 --> 00:05:36,086 And... 98 00:05:37,421 --> 00:05:40,049 I can't speak for anybody else associated with the production, 99 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:41,842 but me, personally, 100 00:05:42,593 --> 00:05:46,347 I don't think I could ever open a movie this way 101 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:48,432 I \ “I \ V, “I 102 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:50,809 we were gonna save everybody at the end. 103 00:05:55,731 --> 00:05:58,859 The ferry blow that you see at the beginning of the movie, 104 00:05:58,943 --> 00:06:00,945 it's the biggest explosion I've ever done. 105 00:06:03,239 --> 00:06:05,783 The trick there was not to sink the ferry, 106 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:07,409 'cause this was a real ferry 107 00:06:07,451 --> 00:06:10,996 and we said, "We're only gonna put you out of operation for four days." 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,083 I think, in actual fact, we put it out of operation for two weeks. 109 00:06:14,124 --> 00:06:17,336 But we had to put steel plates on the decks of the ferry 110 00:06:17,419 --> 00:06:18,671 'cause the explosion was so big, 111 00:06:18,754 --> 00:06:22,758 we were scared that the explosive might not go up, it might go down. 112 00:06:23,217 --> 00:06:25,803 And that would mean, "Bye-bye, the Stump? 113 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:28,389 Which is the name of the ferry. 114 00:06:29,848 --> 00:06:32,476 BRUCKHEIMER: Well, you always try to populate movies with brilliant actors, 115 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:36,146 and Denzel is in that category. He's a brilliant actor. 116 00:06:36,355 --> 00:06:39,400 He can do just about anything. 117 00:06:41,652 --> 00:06:44,822 He's very smart, and he comes off smart on the screen. 118 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:47,992 And somehow, he's a very sympathetic character. 119 00:06:48,325 --> 00:06:50,869 SCOTT: And it's funny. I read the script... 120 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:52,871 And I always think, "Well, maybe I should... 121 00:06:52,955 --> 00:06:54,790 "Oh, I'd like to try and work with..." 122 00:06:54,832 --> 00:06:56,917 There's a bunch of actors I still wanna work with. 123 00:06:57,001 --> 00:06:58,627 When I read the script, the first 10 pages, 124 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:00,879 I said, "This role is for Denzel." 125 00:07:01,505 --> 00:07:03,882 And 'cause he... One, he always delivers. 126 00:07:03,966 --> 00:07:07,219 Two, I really enjoy working with him. He's tough. 127 00:07:07,303 --> 00:07:11,515 He's tough, but he has the same work ethic or the same... 128 00:07:11,598 --> 00:07:13,475 He loves research, I love research, 129 00:07:13,517 --> 00:07:15,894 and so, always, our characters come out of real people 130 00:07:19,648 --> 00:07:22,693 And so that's why we've done three movies together. 131 00:07:22,735 --> 00:07:25,738 And I think in each movie, he always delivers. 132 00:07:25,821 --> 00:07:27,239 And each movie, 133 00:07:27,323 --> 00:07:30,659 we've found a different character that he's never played. 134 00:07:30,701 --> 00:07:32,661 Even though he's played cops, 135 00:07:32,703 --> 00:07:34,371 he's played FBI agents, 136 00:07:34,413 --> 00:07:36,582 and he's never played an ATF agent before, 137 00:07:36,665 --> 00:07:39,209 but he said, "What am I gonna do? I've done these guys before." 138 00:07:39,251 --> 00:07:40,919 You know? So... 139 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,381 Don Ferrarone, who's my guy who's in touch with... 140 00:07:44,465 --> 00:07:46,300 Don's on all my movies 141 00:07:46,383 --> 00:07:48,969 and he's in touch with the agency world. 142 00:07:49,053 --> 00:07:53,557 And we really did a live casting of who was a good ATF agent 143 00:07:55,851 --> 00:07:57,311 And we found a guy called Jerry Rudden. 144 00:07:57,394 --> 00:08:00,731 Rudden was famous in the ATF, 145 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:03,400 and the ATF are the bomb guys. 146 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,865 Denzel and Jerry grew up within a few blocks of each other, 147 00:08:09,907 --> 00:08:11,075 , , ' 'M ' 148 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:15,412 And Jerry tells a funny story. How he got to be a police officer is, 149 00:08:15,454 --> 00:08:17,915 he said being Irish-Catholic he had three choices. 150 00:08:17,956 --> 00:08:22,419 He could either be a priest, a fireman, or a police officer, 151 00:08:25,214 --> 00:08:29,093 SCOTT: When you give to actors, as I did in Man on Fire... 152 00:08:29,176 --> 00:08:31,095 I gave him a role model in real life, 153 00:08:31,136 --> 00:08:33,097 and I did the same here with Jerry Rudden, 154 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:34,431 gave him a real role model, so... 155 00:08:34,473 --> 00:08:37,101 It makes life that much easier, 156 00:08:37,142 --> 00:08:38,894 'cause you've always got a point of reference. 157 00:08:38,936 --> 00:08:40,604 'Cause it's always hard saying to an actor, 158 00:08:40,687 --> 00:08:43,941 "Well, I think you should be stronger in the way you deliver the line here," 159 00:08:43,982 --> 00:08:47,486 or, "You should wear this tie or these shoes." 160 00:08:47,569 --> 00:08:50,155 But if you have a real person as a point of reference, 161 00:08:50,239 --> 00:08:52,449 it's always that much easier. 162 00:08:53,575 --> 00:08:57,413 MARSILII: Here we go into the investigation 163 00:08:57,454 --> 00:09:00,749 that follows the horror of that explosion. 164 00:09:01,917 --> 00:09:05,170 And we're starting to see Doug's process that he has. 165 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:09,716 We all wanted him to have the kind of insights 166 00:09:10,926 --> 00:09:15,472 where he can take one look at a crime scene and deduce things 167 00:09:15,514 --> 00:09:19,560 and steer the investigation in directions that will save everybody 168 00:09:19,643 --> 00:09:21,854 '. “ “ “ “ “ ' ,' “ “ “. : “ “ “ “ 169 00:09:23,605 --> 00:09:28,026 This bridge scene was part of that. 170 00:09:30,362 --> 00:09:35,534 In our discussions with several ATF and FBI consultants, 171 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:37,786 among them Jerry Rudden from the FBI, 172 00:09:38,537 --> 00:09:40,998 we learned a lot about ammonium nitrate-fuel oil, 173 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,500 and the kind of residue that would be involved, 174 00:09:43,542 --> 00:09:46,378 and the bridge offered us a fantastic chance 175 00:09:46,462 --> 00:09:49,548 to show Doug making an intuitive leap 176 00:09:49,631 --> 00:09:52,634 that otherwise might have escaped everyone. 177 00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:56,847 SCOTT: Yeah, and we got Val back. 178 00:09:56,889 --> 00:09:59,850 It's my third movie with Val, obviously. 179 00:09:59,892 --> 00:10:02,352 He said I ruined his life because of that one line, 180 00:10:02,394 --> 00:10:04,980 "You can be my wingman at any time." 181 00:10:05,022 --> 00:10:07,065 'Cause he said he walks through airports 182 00:10:07,149 --> 00:10:10,986 and some joker will come up and say, "You can be my wingman anytime." 183 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,446 (LAUGHING) So he wants to kill me. 184 00:10:12,529 --> 00:10:17,534 No, so Val and I did Top Gun, True Romance, and now this. 185 00:10:17,576 --> 00:10:21,038 And this is a very different character from... You know, it's... 186 00:10:21,079 --> 00:10:24,541 And I was desperately hunting for a role model for Val in real life. 187 00:10:24,583 --> 00:10:26,919 And we came up with two guys from the DEA, 188 00:10:27,002 --> 00:10:30,005 two guys that we found down in, actually, New Orleans, 189 00:10:30,088 --> 00:10:32,966 and Val found his character or reference to his character 190 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:35,135 somewhere between these two guys. 191 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:39,389 MARSILII: This first scene between them 192 00:10:39,473 --> 00:10:42,100 was originally a bit more of a character scene 193 00:10:42,351 --> 00:10:44,144 between Pryzwarra and Doug. 194 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:48,982 But Jerry loves the process, and so does Tony, 195 00:10:49,066 --> 00:10:51,568 and we had a lot of discussions about it. 196 00:10:53,403 --> 00:10:55,697 And now, here I'm going to confess 197 00:10:55,739 --> 00:10:58,325 that the way we kept it from being purely expositional, 198 00:10:58,408 --> 00:11:00,410 we're pulling the dirtiest trick in the book. 199 00:11:00,452 --> 00:11:04,790 Doug is risking his life just to recover some evidence. 200 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:07,751 And I love the way Val plays that moment, 201 00:11:07,793 --> 00:11:11,547 because within 30 seconds of meeting this man, 202 00:11:12,464 --> 00:11:15,425 Doug's literally trusting him with his life. 203 00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:18,595 It's a fast way to forge a relationship. 204 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,806 We can't rule out an accident at this point. 205 00:11:20,889 --> 00:11:23,141 -It's not officially a crime scene yet. -Here's a thought. 206 00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:24,309 Why don't we double the perimeter 207 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:26,270 so we don't have wall-to-wall trailers down there? 208 00:11:26,311 --> 00:11:27,854 ELKINS: No, we're gonna need all our manpower 209 00:11:27,938 --> 00:11:30,399 for evidence control and witness processing. 210 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,944 MARSILII: One of the first things that has to be determined 211 00:11:35,946 --> 00:11:40,742 İs whether or not it was an accident or a deliberate act of terrorism. 212 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:42,703 Doug found this... 213 00:11:42,786 --> 00:11:47,124 Earlier we see him finding this blue plastic confetti, 214 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:49,084 as they call it in the trade, 215 00:11:49,793 --> 00:11:51,295 that was evidence of, 216 00:11:52,838 --> 00:11:56,717 you know, the kind of blue barrels that you'd find the bomb chemicals in. 217 00:11:56,967 --> 00:11:59,469 And he's laying it all out for them. 218 00:12:00,429 --> 00:12:02,639 (MARSILII LAUGHING) 219 00:12:02,806 --> 00:12:05,100 I still think it strains credulity just a bit 220 00:12:05,142 --> 00:12:08,687 that he found a blasting cap and leg wire on his way to work, 221 00:12:08,812 --> 00:12:10,981 out of 10 square miles of wreckage, 222 00:12:15,485 --> 00:12:17,154 -Oh, good, good, good. -Yeah. 223 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:19,656 And that coffeepot was also something that we got 224 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:22,200 from our discussions with Jerry Rudden. 225 00:12:22,284 --> 00:12:25,037 Often that's the way he will break the ice 226 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,541 when there's a tense turf war going on between the numerous agencies 227 00:12:29,625 --> 00:12:32,753 that are first responders to a disaster like this. 228 00:12:34,171 --> 00:12:37,924 And thus the coffeepot moment made its way into the movie. 229 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:41,845 CHAD OMAN: You know, even though you see all these horrific pictures 230 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:44,181 of the surrounding areas of New Orleans, 231 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:47,851 the inner city's rebounding and the French Quarter's rebounding. 232 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:51,480 And it's kind of sad that the media's playing up the destruction of it, 233 00:12:51,521 --> 00:12:54,733 which it has, believe me. It's not a pretty picture. 234 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:57,986 But the city is still vibrant. People should go there, support it. 235 00:12:58,028 --> 00:13:00,280 It's just a wonderful town. 236 00:13:00,697 --> 00:13:01,823 Hey, did Larry call? 237 00:13:01,865 --> 00:13:03,617 Still not answering his cell. 238 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:07,871 MARSILII: Here we're planting, in plain sight, a number of clues 239 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:12,417 that seem incidental in the swirl of activity 240 00:13:13,168 --> 00:13:15,170 following a disaster like this. 241 00:13:17,339 --> 00:13:20,258 And later they turn out to have huge pay-offs. 242 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,512 Listen, I know you're maybe still pissed off at me... 243 00:13:23,553 --> 00:13:26,515 MARSILII: One of the things that is kind of subtle 244 00:13:26,556 --> 00:13:29,935 but that I particularly like about the way this shaped out 245 00:13:32,062 --> 00:13:34,940 is here you've got the hero 246 00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:37,734 of what is going to become a love story, 247 00:13:37,818 --> 00:13:43,824 and the first time he hears about our female lead, 248 00:13:43,907 --> 00:13:46,660 his response is, "Just have them bag it." 249 00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:50,497 And he's actually returning a phone call to the dead woman 250 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:52,749 while he's busy doing other things. 251 00:13:53,041 --> 00:13:54,751 He doesn't know it and neither do we, 252 00:13:54,835 --> 00:13:58,338 but I think there's a really keen irony in that. 253 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:02,384 Stop right there. 254 00:14:02,426 --> 00:14:06,388 As much as possible, to render the rest of the movie plausible, 255 00:14:07,264 --> 00:14:11,768 Tony was particularly insistent that we take as much advantage as possible 256 00:14:12,436 --> 00:14:15,605 of existing conventional surveillance technology. 257 00:14:15,939 --> 00:14:19,443 Terry and I were always very on board with that, as well. 258 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:23,155 We just didn't want it to overwhelm the rest of the story. 259 00:14:23,238 --> 00:14:27,284 We didn't want the time window to become, you know, irrelevant 260 00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:30,120 because they were on top of it with other things. 261 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:31,496 McCREADY: Can I have your attention, please? 262 00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:33,081 Thanks very much for coming. 263 00:14:33,123 --> 00:14:35,375 I'm Jack McCready, special agent... 264 00:14:35,459 --> 00:14:36,877 MARSILII: This dialogue from McCready 265 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,795 was really kind of vital for us, 266 00:14:38,837 --> 00:14:42,048 because, basically, he's laying out for the press, 267 00:14:42,132 --> 00:14:44,259 and we're laying out for the audience, 268 00:14:44,301 --> 00:14:49,139 the near-impossibility of solving this crime quickly. 269 00:14:52,517 --> 00:14:55,145 When we were first casting about 270 00:14:55,187 --> 00:14:59,024 for a disaster that Claire's death could be tied to, 271 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:06,198 back in October of '97, I had made a list of a few things: 272 00:15:07,949 --> 00:15:11,828 plane crash, train wreck, building collapse, 273 00:15:11,912 --> 00:15:15,749 and I had even written, "Plane flying into skyscraper." 274 00:15:16,958 --> 00:15:18,460 Ultimately, I chose not to use that 275 00:15:18,502 --> 00:15:21,004 because of a Richard Burton film called The Medusa Touch 276 00:15:24,925 --> 00:15:28,220 One thing here I want to give Tony full credit for is, 277 00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:35,227 he felt very strongly that he wanted Doug to have his own process 278 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:38,522 that involved the city of New Orleans as much as possible. 279 00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:41,024 -What? Streetcar? -Hey, don't look at me. 280 00:15:41,233 --> 00:15:44,653 It's part of his process. He says it helps him think. 281 00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:50,867 SCOTT: The reason that Denzel was traveling by... 282 00:15:50,951 --> 00:15:53,203 In England we call them trams, 283 00:15:53,245 --> 00:15:56,039 and here you call them streetcars, yeah? 284 00:15:56,081 --> 00:15:59,042 And these streetcars actually weren't working after Katrina. 285 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:03,213 We had to get them all towed because all the electric were down, 286 00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:05,590 all the lines were ripped up, you know, but... 287 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:10,470 And everybody was concerned that I was making it too, sort of, artsy 288 00:16:10,554 --> 00:16:12,722 and too lyrical, but I said, 289 00:16:12,764 --> 00:16:15,475 "Listen, I'm basing everything off what Jerry Rudden did, 290 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:17,894 "who is Denzel's role model, and what he did." 291 00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:20,355 He walked, he took public transport, 292 00:16:20,397 --> 00:16:24,568 just to find his own space while he worked things out. 293 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,239 And it's also beautiful, 'cause it's very lyrical 294 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:31,867 and it's all part and parcel of the city, very poetic, you know. 295 00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:34,244 And also so this... This movie is a love story, 296 00:16:34,286 --> 00:16:36,913 so it helped that aspect, just the background. 297 00:16:36,997 --> 00:16:40,250 So this weird love story that begins the first time he looks at this woman... 298 00:16:40,292 --> 00:16:43,837 You know, she's lying on the slab in the morgue. 299 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,590 And I tried to make Paula as alive as possible, 300 00:16:46,715 --> 00:16:49,759 so we don't see the hand that actually turns her head. 301 00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:51,720 And her head turns and her eyes are open, 302 00:16:51,761 --> 00:16:54,598 and she's looking right into D's eyes, yeah? 303 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,934 So that was a sort of odd beginning, 304 00:16:58,018 --> 00:17:00,896 but even in death, in the morgue, she looked beautiful. 305 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:03,607 Hold her hand for me, will you? Right here. 306 00:17:03,982 --> 00:17:07,027 MARSILII: These missing fingers, actually, are not merely an attempt 307 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:08,403 to be gruesome on our part. 308 00:17:08,445 --> 00:17:10,947 They're important for two reasons, really, 309 00:17:11,114 --> 00:17:14,451 the first of them being we wanted to make it very clear 310 00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:16,036 “ "' “ “' ,' “ “ “'/' 311 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:21,124 This isn't a case of somebody faking it. 312 00:17:21,666 --> 00:17:24,252 This isn't mistaken identity. 313 00:17:24,294 --> 00:17:25,545 This is a love story 314 00:17:25,629 --> 00:17:29,758 where the first time the guy sees the girl is at her autopsy. 315 00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:32,761 -Diesel. -Accelerant, maybe? 316 00:17:32,802 --> 00:17:35,805 MARSILII: The other thing about her fingers missing is, 317 00:17:36,348 --> 00:17:38,642 in a story like this, in a mainstream film, 318 00:17:38,683 --> 00:17:40,185 I think the audience takes for granted 319 00:17:40,268 --> 00:17:43,355 that somehow the hero's going to save her life. 320 00:17:45,023 --> 00:17:49,402 But there's no guarantee that he'll stop her from being tortured first. 321 00:17:50,195 --> 00:17:52,280 -CARLIN: You see that? -Duct tape. 322 00:17:52,322 --> 00:17:54,157 SCOTT: You know, originally, the movie, 323 00:17:54,199 --> 00:17:58,244 when I shot it, was an R-rated movie. 324 00:17:58,328 --> 00:18:03,792 R-rated mainly because of the tone and the violence and the... 325 00:18:03,833 --> 00:18:07,837 You know, whether it's the stuff in the medical examiner's office 326 00:18:07,921 --> 00:18:10,006 or the blowing up the ship at the beginning, 327 00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:13,468 it's a lot more... What's the word? A lot more graphic. 328 00:18:14,469 --> 00:18:16,596 I don't think it's... 329 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,434 Overall, the R-rated version is a lot more graphic than this PG version. 330 00:18:22,018 --> 00:18:24,104 I was actually contracted to do an R version, 331 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:27,023 but it was hard, actually, getting it down to a PG. 332 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:29,818 So everything that you're gonna see there... 333 00:18:29,859 --> 00:18:31,736 It's not one particular sequence 334 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:35,573 that makes it distinctively an R, it's an overall tone. 335 00:18:35,657 --> 00:18:37,367 And everything from the... 336 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,077 Obviously, all the dangerous sequences, 337 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,204 the violent sequences, there's nothing... 338 00:18:41,246 --> 00:18:43,832 Unfortunately, there's nothing in terms of sex that's R, 339 00:18:43,873 --> 00:18:46,793 'cause that wasn't in the actual story, 340 00:18:47,377 --> 00:18:52,424 but violence and content, 341 00:18:54,592 --> 00:18:59,014 in terms of explosions and the gassing of Paula 342 00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:03,518 is very much different in the R-rated version. 343 00:19:06,438 --> 00:19:08,982 MARSILII: When Terry first told me his idea, I loved it, 344 00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:11,359 but as I was looking through it, 345 00:19:12,068 --> 00:19:15,739 there were a number of issues that really had to be addressed 346 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:18,074 in order to make the film plausible. 347 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:26,416 Any real time machine using existing technology 348 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:28,793 would have to cost $10 billion 349 00:19:28,877 --> 00:19:32,297 and probably be hooked up to a mile-wide particle accelerator, 350 00:19:33,298 --> 00:19:36,134 which is why the original draft of the script had been set 351 00:19:36,217 --> 00:19:38,428 at Brookhaven National Lab on Long Island. 352 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:41,639 But given that, 353 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:45,560 if you've got a $10 billion time machine, 354 00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:48,521 nobody is going to use it to find out 355 00:19:48,605 --> 00:19:52,108 who killed one woman that nobody's ever heard of. 356 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:58,573 Her death, I felt, had to be tied to something just gigantic, 357 00:20:03,953 --> 00:20:07,957 And when we chose to set the disaster on a ferry, 358 00:20:11,294 --> 00:20:14,756 İn order to drive the bomb onto the boat, 359 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:17,884 really became the key to the whole story. 360 00:20:19,469 --> 00:20:21,096 And where is he now, Alan? 361 00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:22,347 " “ *1 \ - \ 'f “ ' “. “ '. “ ' if 'y/ 362 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:28,686 One of the wonderful virtues of Terry's initial idea 363 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:31,022 that thrilled me about working on it, 364 00:20:33,191 --> 00:20:37,987 you've got a love story where the man is an investigator 365 00:20:39,447 --> 00:20:40,990 and the woman's dead, 366 00:20:42,826 --> 00:20:44,536 so it is his job 367 00:20:45,662 --> 00:20:48,832 to go through her apartment, 368 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:52,836 read her diaries, look through her photographs, 369 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:57,549 listen to her answering machine tapes, and hear her talk to her father. 370 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:01,553 All of these things that would normally be considered 371 00:21:03,138 --> 00:21:05,682 incredible invasions of privacy 372 00:21:07,058 --> 00:21:08,768 are actually necessary. 373 00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:11,312 His job requires it. 374 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:17,068 It's a great excuse to get a man to pay undivided attention 375 00:21:17,694 --> 00:21:20,071 to the last four days of a woman's life. 376 00:21:20,238 --> 00:21:23,658 See, I know how these things go, Agent Carlin, 377 00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,368 and I need her to matter to you. 378 00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:26,828 1 §\§\'/\\ kgiy/ (It; I» iijiiljj'; ziiijf'; I 'if; , u-"Iky. 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'igifi: “ 379 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:32,375 At one point, it had fallen out of the movie, in one of the early cuts, 380 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:34,961 and I begged Tony to put it back in. 381 00:21:36,045 --> 00:21:37,172 It's small, 382 00:21:38,381 --> 00:21:42,719 but it really speaks to that man's grief at the loss of his daughter. 383 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:45,972 He knows he's only got a few moments 384 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:49,017 with the man who's going to try and solve her murder, 385 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,980 and in that moment all he asks is, "Please get to know my daughter. 386 00:21:54,063 --> 00:21:55,982 "| need her to matter to you." 387 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,736 That, I think, resonates with Doug 388 00:21:59,777 --> 00:22:02,363 throughout everything that's going to follow. 389 00:22:03,573 --> 00:22:06,576 It's his first step down the path of becoming 390 00:22:06,618 --> 00:22:08,995 more emotionally involved than he might. 391 00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:13,750 Now, this is a subtle tittie thing with the cat, 392 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:17,420 but the cat's very affectionate with him here, 393 00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:20,173 and then later on, when he goes back in time 394 00:22:20,256 --> 00:22:23,718 and walks into the house for the first time, the cat runs away. 395 00:22:23,927 --> 00:22:27,764 Claire says, "She always does that around strangers." 396 00:22:29,224 --> 00:22:31,935 So, does the cat recognize him? 397 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:41,778 Here is the scene where we really get our first clue 398 00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:44,739 that Doug's in the middle of something strange. 399 00:22:47,325 --> 00:22:49,786 As he's walking through Claire's apartment, 400 00:22:51,412 --> 00:22:55,291 around the edges, we're getting to know her a little bit more. 401 00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:59,629 And while we're getting to know her through the small details of her life, 402 00:22:59,671 --> 00:23:04,008 that beautiful mural that is uncompleted, she never got to finish it, 403 00:23:05,969 --> 00:23:07,637 we're also getting to see Doug work. 404 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:10,056 He's very meticulous, he's very careful. 405 00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:14,185 All of this is going on while we're laying out these visual clues 406 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:18,856 that, God willing, will have very neat payoffs later. 407 00:23:19,983 --> 00:23:23,486 The trick of plotting all of this out was that everything we're seeing here 408 00:23:23,528 --> 00:23:26,197 has to convince Doug and the audience 409 00:23:26,281 --> 00:23:29,909 that these are signs of a struggle from when Claire was abducted. 410 00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:34,872 And then, later on, each and every one of these things 411 00:23:34,956 --> 00:23:38,668 has to occur on-screen exactly as they're found here, 412 00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:42,714 only it turns out that Doug himself left all the clues, 413 00:23:47,343 --> 00:23:49,429 It took forever to plot that out. 414 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:51,639 And originally, we had even more moments like that, 415 00:23:51,681 --> 00:23:55,852 these kind of moments where the story back-flips on itself 416 00:23:58,229 --> 00:24:02,066 At one point, our executive producer, Chad Oman, 417 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:05,862 had me prepare a nine-page document for the production team, 418 00:24:05,903 --> 00:24:09,365 in which I laid out every setup and payoff in the movie. 419 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:13,328 There were far too many of them for Tony's taste, 420 00:24:13,369 --> 00:24:16,372 but we did end up trimming back to something 421 00:24:16,414 --> 00:24:19,042 that I still think holds up very well. 422 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:24,047 SCOTT: I think why it's always a good experience with Denzel, 423 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,299 is because we have that same intensity 424 00:24:26,382 --> 00:24:29,052 in terms of our work and getting things right, 425 00:24:29,093 --> 00:24:31,471 and doing the homework to get it right. 426 00:24:31,888 --> 00:24:37,060 And he, like I, was worried about the science fiction aspect, 427 00:24:39,645 --> 00:24:42,065 Over the years, and three movies, is trust. 428 00:24:42,315 --> 00:24:45,651 And trusting that... I always trust him to deliver. 429 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:48,404 And he always comes with a ton of his own stuff, 430 00:24:48,446 --> 00:24:51,074 and he always trusts me to deliver from my end, yeah? 431 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:53,201 So, the combination... 432 00:24:53,242 --> 00:24:55,620 And we've touched three very different characters. 433 00:24:55,703 --> 00:24:59,123 And I think he respects the fact I'm always able to give him a new niche, 434 00:24:59,207 --> 00:25:01,417 even in a world he's touched many times before, 435 00:25:01,501 --> 00:25:04,087 you know, this world here of the cops, 436 00:25:04,462 --> 00:25:07,632 or, you know, agency guys. 437 00:25:08,216 --> 00:25:12,261 But also, you know, Denzel is great because he's got such a gravity 438 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:15,640 in terms of his personality and himself, and such a reality. 439 00:25:15,723 --> 00:25:20,019 He always... When he finds a character, he finds it, you know, 200%. 440 00:25:20,103 --> 00:25:23,439 So, therefore, he manages to sell this world 441 00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:26,109 because people trust in him, they believe in him, 442 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:28,361 they believe who he is when he plays a character, 443 00:25:28,444 --> 00:25:30,113 because he gets so much into the character. 444 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:35,243 And he, you know, Denzel's totally dedicated to his work. 445 00:25:35,284 --> 00:25:36,702 You know, he likes his glass of wine. 446 00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:40,706 He doesn't have a glass of wine, nothing, for the duration of the movie. 447 00:25:41,499 --> 00:25:44,752 You know, Denzel's all about getting it right. 448 00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:50,508 But again, it's so... You know, it's great, I love to educate myself. 449 00:25:53,469 --> 00:25:56,264 And I love to educate the audience and entertain. 450 00:25:56,639 --> 00:25:59,142 BRUCKHEIMER: I think Tony and I, there's a mutual respect. 451 00:25:59,183 --> 00:26:01,477 I think he's a brilliant director, 452 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,439 so he's got total control of his set, as he should, 453 00:26:04,814 --> 00:26:06,190 and the way he works with actors. 454 00:26:06,274 --> 00:26:08,901 And he's wonderful developing the screenplays 455 00:26:08,985 --> 00:26:11,821 and working on the characters to make them more in-depth, 456 00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:12,989 and give them layers, 457 00:26:13,030 --> 00:26:15,324 which he loves to do, he involves the actors in that. 458 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:17,994 You know, when you find a wonderful director, you don't want to lose him. 459 00:26:18,035 --> 00:26:20,329 Unfortunately, you know, we can't work on every film together, 460 00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:25,501 MARSILII: Here's Denny's intro into the story, 461 00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:28,129 and one of the things that I like about it is 462 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:32,508 that his first lines in the movie are about time. 463 00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:37,180 What his role is going to be in the rest of the story. 464 00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:40,516 She washed up before the explosion and against the tide. 465 00:26:41,017 --> 00:26:42,810 Do you have a scenario? 466 00:26:42,852 --> 00:26:44,479 We're into this hangar scene 467 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,733 where Doug is going to lay out his theory of what actually happened. 468 00:26:50,485 --> 00:26:54,530 So, he's joining his federal employees who... 469 00:26:54,697 --> 00:26:56,073 A disaster that hadn't happened yet. 470 00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:59,368 ...judging by some of the screensavers in the background, 471 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,374 they did not get the memo on sexual harassment policy in the workplace. 472 00:27:06,125 --> 00:27:08,753 Good question. Her SUV is missing. 473 00:27:10,087 --> 00:27:11,547 W's atan and red... 474 00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,884 What Doug's laying out for his superiors, 475 00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:17,470 is part of what's gonna get him the job. 476 00:27:18,262 --> 00:27:21,307 They'd originally been looking for his partner Minuti. 477 00:27:22,225 --> 00:27:26,687 This is how Claire's the key to the whole case. 478 00:27:26,729 --> 00:27:28,564 It was really kind of vital. 479 00:27:29,023 --> 00:27:33,444 What's important here, in terms of keeping Claire a key to the case, 480 00:27:35,863 --> 00:27:38,699 is that the bomber was in direct contact with her. 481 00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:42,245 There's a key line here where he says, 482 00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:44,539 "If we solve her murder, we solve everybody's." 483 00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:46,582 -What? -Larry Minuti, my partner. 484 00:27:46,749 --> 00:27:47,750 That's his car right there. 485 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:50,753 The death of a partner is one of those things that 486 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:53,130 we had to be very careful about, because 487 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,134 “ ,' 'u wu ,_ (-' 'w: ' '-. ,1' ' ,_ 'm ' \/' ' ' f' w' , “. ' ' ' “ “ ' “ Q ', .@' “ “ ' “' “ .@ .@H “ “ .',' “ 488 00:27:59,136 --> 00:28:01,681 And if it weren't going to pay off in a surprising way later, 489 00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:08,229 But in our conversations with Jerry Rudden, 490 00:28:09,814 --> 00:28:13,317 he laid it out for us, still, that there's nothing more devastating 491 00:28:13,985 --> 00:28:15,861 for an investigator. 492 00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:19,991 MARSILII: Then, to not only lose his partner, 493 00:28:20,074 --> 00:28:23,619 but to later discover that he was responsible for the man's death. 494 00:28:23,661 --> 00:28:25,288 Sorry. 495 00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:33,963 Now, there are actually two ways to interpret Minuti's car being there. 496 00:28:34,505 --> 00:28:39,302 One being, that it was at the ferry dock because Minuti was on vacation 497 00:28:39,343 --> 00:28:41,345 and died in the ferry disaster, 498 00:28:42,179 --> 00:28:45,224 then Doug and the team only change the way he dies. 499 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,685 Or there's the darker interpretation 500 00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:51,147 that everything was completely circular. 501 00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:56,861 All right. Let's go find him. 502 00:28:58,321 --> 00:29:00,197 This is another example of 503 00:29:00,281 --> 00:29:04,243 where Tony's visual sense really informed the movie. 504 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:10,958 As often as possible, Tony chose to take these scenes that were, 505 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,210 you know, originally office scenes, indoor moments, 506 00:29:13,294 --> 00:29:16,130 and place them in and around New Orleans. 507 00:29:21,135 --> 00:29:24,680 One of the benefits of having great actors like Denzel and Val... 508 00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:30,227 Like, that moment just a moment ago where he says, "Oklahoma City." 509 00:29:30,311 --> 00:29:32,355 And Doug says, "Yeah." 510 00:29:33,022 --> 00:29:36,317 As a writer, you can't just write a two-line exchange like that 511 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:38,778 and expect it to have any weight. 512 00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:43,074 You have to write out the whole story, the whole thing. 513 00:29:43,157 --> 00:29:45,701 Give the man a moment where he talks about 514 00:29:45,743 --> 00:29:47,787 what that experience was to him. 515 00:29:48,412 --> 00:29:51,123 And then you take it out, and you've got brilliant guys like this 516 00:29:51,207 --> 00:29:52,875 and you shoot it. 517 00:29:53,751 --> 00:29:56,212 And the whole story is in their eyes. 518 00:29:57,505 --> 00:30:01,550 And all the rest of that dialogue falls out of the movie. 519 00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:07,890 SCOTT: You look at Val in the movie and I think he's a little different. 520 00:30:08,474 --> 00:30:09,725 Well, he's not a lot different... 521 00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:12,520 He's played character actors before, but normally Val is a son' of... 522 00:30:12,561 --> 00:30:15,398 You know, the good-looking, 523 00:30:15,815 --> 00:30:18,109 you know, leading man, but in this he... 524 00:30:18,192 --> 00:30:20,236 He very much wanted to be in this movie, 525 00:30:20,277 --> 00:30:22,071 and so... It's so hard with actors, saying, 526 00:30:22,113 --> 00:30:24,865 "I think you should out your hair off, because I've got this feeling 527 00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:26,701 "you need this, sort of, really bad haircut, 528 00:30:26,742 --> 00:30:29,078 "and you're gonna wear this really crumpled suit." 529 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,248 But the guys that we met motivated the glasses that he wore, 530 00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:35,710 motivated the haircut that he had, and the suit that he wore. 531 00:30:36,585 --> 00:30:40,256 MARSILII: Earlier, I had mentioned that Terry's premise was intriguing. 532 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,470 And one of the things that I'd done at the time was I rented a car 533 00:30:46,554 --> 00:30:49,140 and drove out to Brookhaven National Lab 534 00:30:49,223 --> 00:30:52,101 in order to see what these particle accelerators were really like. 535 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:55,938 And that huge cylindrical chamber that you're seeing right there, 536 00:30:57,732 --> 00:31:00,776 the production team exactly duplicated 537 00:31:02,903 --> 00:31:07,158 a section of the ion collider at the Brookhaven National Lab. 538 00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:09,201 T. 539 00:31:10,453 --> 00:31:13,789 And they are in a sound stage in Downey, California. 540 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,299 Everything in terms of the main lab here. 541 00:31:23,966 --> 00:31:25,968 'V I 'I 542 00:31:27,762 --> 00:31:30,473 I shot that on Genesis. All the windows, 543 00:31:30,514 --> 00:31:34,310 all the tiles surrounding that window were shot on regular def. 544 00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:35,853 So the contrast and the separation, 545 00:31:35,936 --> 00:31:38,522 when you see the finished print, is huge. 546 00:31:38,647 --> 00:31:41,692 So, the main window, it hums and sings and stands out. 547 00:31:41,776 --> 00:31:46,822 It's very different from the other smaller tiles. 548 00:31:47,531 --> 00:31:49,825 And then I shot all of the main lab on Genesis 549 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:52,411 because Genesis is a digital camera, 550 00:31:52,495 --> 00:31:55,706 but it's a state-of-the-art in terms of the digital world. 551 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:58,000 And everything feels almost three-dimensional. 552 00:31:58,042 --> 00:31:59,627 It really does feel 3-D. 553 00:31:59,668 --> 00:32:03,589 So that helped, this technology in this main lab. 554 00:32:03,672 --> 00:32:06,717 It helped this world having... 555 00:32:06,801 --> 00:32:10,846 Using, you know, high-def cameras. 556 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:14,642 And I think that's gonna become the way of the world, you know, high-def. 557 00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:17,394 But I've only been using it... For instance, I shot all my night stuff, 558 00:32:17,478 --> 00:32:21,565 all the car chases at night we shot just with existing light. 559 00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:23,984 And we shot, obviously those selected locations 560 00:32:24,026 --> 00:32:29,073 and I shot in low level situations in which it's at its true strength. 561 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,867 And everything we did in the "main lab" here, as we call it. 562 00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:36,872 But bright daylight exteriors, they still haven't quite got it right. 563 00:32:36,914 --> 00:32:41,210 That contrast ratio is too much for the digital world, still, to hold 564 00:32:41,252 --> 00:32:43,754 in a good and comfortable way. 565 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,716 MARSILII: This cover story that they lay out for Doug, 566 00:32:47,758 --> 00:32:50,010 about how this is spy satellite video, 567 00:32:50,052 --> 00:32:54,765 this was the most contentious part of the movie as we were developing it. 568 00:32:55,349 --> 00:32:58,352 We spent months working this over. 569 00:32:59,728 --> 00:33:02,857 And Don Ferrarone, one of our technical advisors, 570 00:33:02,898 --> 00:33:05,109 pointed out that with top-secret technology like this, 571 00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:09,113 they would not be likely to tell Doug what he was really seeing. 572 00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:13,409 So, the compromise position, the sort of... 573 00:33:15,077 --> 00:33:18,122 Sort of fallback that we all ended up settling on, 574 00:33:18,664 --> 00:33:22,710 was that they tell him this is spy satellite video. 575 00:33:24,545 --> 00:33:28,424 And he's immediately skeptical of it, but he goes along with it. 576 00:33:30,342 --> 00:33:33,804 If the audience sees that Denzel's not quite buying it... 577 00:33:33,888 --> 00:33:36,056 Can't look back and see if there was a second gunman. 578 00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:42,271 And they'll be patient, because they know that eventually 579 00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,899 he's gonna get to the bottom of what's really going on here 580 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:46,775 and he's gonna blow it open for them. 581 00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,277 It's the when that's always constant. 582 00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,779 SCOTT: And then we also had Adam Goldberg, 583 00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:56,744 and Adam, who's the whiz kid behind the "main |ab" as we call it. 584 00:33:56,785 --> 00:34:01,290 And Adam's character's role-modeled off a guy called Brian Greene. 585 00:34:01,332 --> 00:34:06,211 And so I gave Adam a bunch of tapes on Brian, 586 00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:11,091 'cause Brian's a very busy guy, and then got Adam on the phone with him. 587 00:34:11,133 --> 00:34:15,387 And also we got Brian Greene doing a video tape demonstration 588 00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:18,641 of what he believed, you know, the whole theory 589 00:34:18,682 --> 00:34:24,229 of this particular time travel that we were trying to access in the movie, 590 00:34:24,438 --> 00:34:27,399 what he believed that to be, and we videotaped him, 591 00:34:27,483 --> 00:34:29,652 'cause he'd done it in Jerry's office with me. 592 00:34:29,735 --> 00:34:32,863 And then I gave that to Adam, and Adam copied it. 593 00:34:33,822 --> 00:34:36,200 Adam Goldberg's the funniest cat on two legs, 594 00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:38,202 but he's very smart, and he... 595 00:34:38,285 --> 00:34:42,081 And his delivery... And that stuff was tough, 'cause it's a mouthful. 596 00:34:42,289 --> 00:34:45,292 And it's a tough one to sell the general public on, 597 00:34:45,501 --> 00:34:47,753 who don't really know anything about this world. 598 00:34:47,836 --> 00:34:51,507 But with Brian Greene's help and Adam's delivery, 599 00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:53,968 he helped, made it understandable. 600 00:34:54,009 --> 00:34:57,471 Even if people, so far... Even if the audience don't quite get it, 601 00:34:57,513 --> 00:34:59,556 they buy into it, and they run with it, 602 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,476 which is... That was always my goal. 603 00:35:02,518 --> 00:35:05,854 All right, match the viewer settings to the signal. 604 00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:11,485 The map, I think, was one of my fights with the writers, 605 00:35:11,527 --> 00:35:16,156 in that they just wanted it like a pure, one-shot surveillance camera, 606 00:35:16,198 --> 00:35:18,951 you know, from the corner of a room, that didn't move, you know. 607 00:35:19,034 --> 00:35:23,163 But I took license, so I built a joystick onto the desk 608 00:35:23,497 --> 00:35:27,918 where Gunnars has the ability to zoom in and travel around, 609 00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:31,088 you know, which give it a whole different life, which wasn't in the... 610 00:35:31,171 --> 00:35:32,923 That wasn't in the original script. 611 00:35:33,007 --> 00:35:37,177 And everybody was worried about the fact that I was reaching too hard, 612 00:35:37,219 --> 00:35:40,556 and getting too hip, and doing too many tricks, you know. 613 00:35:40,723 --> 00:35:43,350 Basically, we can walk through walls. 614 00:35:44,393 --> 00:35:46,729 MARSILII: When Doug looks at her for the first time, 615 00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:48,814 and says, "Claire Kuchever," 616 00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:52,776 is he just stating her name, or is he having a déjé vu moment? 617 00:35:53,235 --> 00:35:56,864 It's kind of interesting the way that Denzel played that. 618 00:35:56,989 --> 00:35:59,033 SCOTT: This particular scene here 619 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:02,786 was the first time that Denzel actually sees Paula. 620 00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:05,372 You know, and that was for me... I thought... I was really worried about 621 00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:07,916 trying to get that connection between the two of them. 622 00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:12,129 But... And I did everything, I milked it, I shot from behind the screen, 623 00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:16,508 you know, through Paula's image onto Denzel, and vice versa. 624 00:36:17,134 --> 00:36:21,138 But... And I reconstructed that scene a little bit, so she was left... 625 00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:24,183 You thought she was actually looking out of the screen at Denzel. 626 00:36:24,266 --> 00:36:26,769 So, I restructured the timing in the scene. 627 00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:29,646 And you're distracted, you think she's looking at D, 628 00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:32,608 but in actual fact, she's listening to her answering machine. 629 00:36:32,649 --> 00:36:35,444 MARSILII: One of the great things about Tony Scott is that, 630 00:36:35,486 --> 00:36:39,448 typically in a movie like this, where you've got characters 631 00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:42,785 that are going to staring at a screen for some time, 632 00:36:43,035 --> 00:36:45,662 the way it's handled in production is, 633 00:36:46,789 --> 00:36:49,792 you stand the actors in front of a green screen, 634 00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:52,336 they all stare at a big "X" made of gaffer's tape and 635 00:36:52,419 --> 00:36:55,047 pretend to see something up there, 636 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:58,342 while somebody else reads the dialogue off-screen. 637 00:36:58,592 --> 00:37:02,805 And you can burn through pages a day that way, if that's what you care about, 638 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:06,475 you know, shooting Denzel as he falls in love with a big 639 00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:09,686 But Tony chose instead 640 00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:13,148 to shoot all of these time window scenes last. 641 00:37:13,857 --> 00:37:17,820 First, he shot everything that was going to be seen in the window, 642 00:37:17,861 --> 00:37:19,696 I: 643 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:21,740 Then he shut down physical production of the movie, 644 00:37:21,824 --> 00:37:23,033 for, I think, about a week, 645 00:37:23,117 --> 00:37:26,078 maybe 10 days, to cut all of it together. 646 00:37:26,954 --> 00:37:30,165 Then when the shooting resumed, with these scenes, 647 00:37:30,249 --> 00:37:32,876 the actors didn't have to fake everything. 648 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,711 SCOTT: I shot for 14 weeks, 649 00:37:35,629 --> 00:37:37,381 and I shot everything which was... 650 00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:40,050 For instance, Paula going into that time window. 651 00:37:40,134 --> 00:37:43,762 I then had to put it into one piece of film 652 00:37:43,846 --> 00:37:45,556 that would serve as every scene, 653 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,475 so I had to get the actors to sign off to play to that. 654 00:37:48,684 --> 00:37:52,187 They were dictated to by this window, and actors don't like that. 655 00:37:52,229 --> 00:37:55,774 You know, especially at 6:00 on a Monday morning, 656 00:37:56,024 --> 00:37:57,526 saying to Denzel, "Well, this is... 657 00:37:57,568 --> 00:38:01,029 "You've gotta play to this timing in this scene." 658 00:38:01,071 --> 00:38:03,740 But in the end, the guys got into it, 659 00:38:03,824 --> 00:38:06,076 'cause that's the way it was scripted, 660 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,454 and we could do some little changes and stuff but it was pretty tied down, 661 00:38:09,538 --> 00:38:13,000 in terms of, they had to perform and act to the window. 662 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,379 MARSILII: Everything on the screen in the time window that they're looking at, 663 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:20,507 is being projected onto the set in real time. 664 00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:25,053 The actors are reacting to the same visuals that the audience is seeing. 665 00:38:25,137 --> 00:38:28,182 And personally, as a movie fan, 666 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:31,351 I really like that we went old-school like that. 667 00:38:32,603 --> 00:38:35,856 Most of the fantastic images in the film are real, 668 00:38:35,898 --> 00:38:38,233 they're not CG or green screen. 669 00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:41,570 It was a real boat that blew up, 670 00:38:41,612 --> 00:38:44,406 real water, real fire, the stunts were real. 671 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,036 It would have been cheaper to do it the other way, 672 00:38:49,077 --> 00:38:51,079 but I really think we have a richer movie for this. 673 00:38:51,163 --> 00:38:52,414 No, do not give him my number. 674 00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:56,710 SCOTT: I say, one of the challenges with 40 minutes in an enclosed space... 675 00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:01,256 You know, but it's a very colorful space, you know, in terms of 676 00:39:01,298 --> 00:39:03,675 all this information, all these windows. 677 00:39:03,759 --> 00:39:05,385 It's a great space. 678 00:39:05,427 --> 00:39:07,721 But it was a very similar challenge on Crimson Tide, 679 00:39:07,763 --> 00:39:11,266 'cause that was this claustrophobic submarine environment. 680 00:39:11,308 --> 00:39:13,936 But this had a little more going for me, 681 00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:17,272 in terms of I could use that third character, which was the window, 682 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,950 And then Paula, Paula Patton, this is... Paula had done two movies. 683 00:39:28,075 --> 00:39:30,410 She'd done... She had a very small part in Hitch, 684 00:39:30,452 --> 00:39:31,954 where she looks stunning, 685 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:34,581 and she just finished a movie called ldlewild. 686 00:39:34,915 --> 00:39:39,252 But this kid is beautiful, she's honest, 687 00:39:40,796 --> 00:39:43,632 and I think the right word is "ingenuous, " 688 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,635 'cause you... She just soaks you up. You're engaged by her. 689 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:50,055 And so... But she's relatively new in terms of her acting career. 690 00:39:50,138 --> 00:39:54,142 But she's got great instincts. But most of all, you adore her, 691 00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,478 which was perfect for this role, 692 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,524 'cause it's very hard to find someone who has the right qualities 693 00:40:01,024 --> 00:40:03,360 for a voyeuristic relationship. 694 00:40:03,443 --> 00:40:06,113 You know, for the... If there'd been something a little more sexual... 695 00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:07,739 Paula is sexy, but... 696 00:40:07,823 --> 00:40:10,283 But as, I mean, something little off sexual-wise... 697 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:13,829 Or Denzel had played it a little off, 698 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:16,415 it could have become, I said, voyeuristic 699 00:40:16,498 --> 00:40:18,834 and sort of a little nasty. 700 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:21,837 But then, D was absolutely... Denzel was... 701 00:40:21,962 --> 00:40:25,173 He said, "This girl is so stunning, she's so beautiful, 702 00:40:26,883 --> 00:40:30,095 He said, "And that's in the best and strongest possible way," 703 00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:32,347 and that was great for the character. 704 00:40:32,389 --> 00:40:34,349 BRUCKHEIMER: No, we never made a decision to cast an unknown. 705 00:40:34,391 --> 00:40:35,684 I think we just wanted to get the best actress 706 00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:36,935 we could find who fit the part. 707 00:40:37,019 --> 00:40:38,061 It's a very difficult part 708 00:40:38,145 --> 00:40:39,604 because you have to fall in love with this woman 709 00:40:39,688 --> 00:40:40,772 without her really saying much, 710 00:40:40,856 --> 00:40:43,275 or having any interaction with the lead characters 711 00:40:43,358 --> 00:40:45,986 until halfway or three quarters of the way through the movie. 712 00:40:46,028 --> 00:40:48,155 And that's a very difficult role to play. 713 00:40:48,196 --> 00:40:49,990 So, we had to, you know, photograph her 714 00:40:50,032 --> 00:40:52,159 in such a way that she is sympathetic, 715 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,454 endearing, engaging. And that's what Tony did. 716 00:40:55,871 --> 00:41:00,542 And Paula has just this enthusiasm and energy, 717 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:02,669 and she's very uplifting. 718 00:41:02,711 --> 00:41:04,838 She's the kind of person that you wanna have around you, 719 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,381 because, you know, she's always got 720 00:41:06,423 --> 00:41:09,009 a wonderful smile on her face and a great laugh, 721 00:41:09,051 --> 00:41:10,677 and she's always looking at the brighter side of things, 722 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,637 which is what you want. 723 00:41:13,722 --> 00:41:18,393 MARSILII: Again, one of the wonderful virtues of Terry's original concept, 724 00:41:19,603 --> 00:41:21,354 there are scenes like this, 725 00:41:21,396 --> 00:41:24,566 that you really can't do in any other kind of story. 726 00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:29,696 You've got a man reading this woman's journal, 727 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,159 and then watching her record the very same thing he's reading, 728 00:41:35,744 --> 00:41:40,332 and she's so spooked by what she's starting to sense. 729 00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:45,253 İt's his first clue that they might be affecting the past somehow. 730 00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:51,093 One of the wonderful things that Paula brought to the role... 731 00:41:51,635 --> 00:41:53,595 God, thank you for blessing me with this food... 732 00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:57,808 Our first meeting with her, she wanted to talk about her character a bit. 733 00:41:57,891 --> 00:42:00,936 And we'd never met, although we became fast friends 734 00:42:01,019 --> 00:42:05,107 because it was her first really big break and mine, too. 735 00:42:05,941 --> 00:42:09,277 Of all the things she could've latched on to about Claire's character, 736 00:42:09,361 --> 00:42:12,614 she wanted to talk about Claire's spirituality. 737 00:42:14,491 --> 00:42:17,494 There are touches of it still in the film, 738 00:42:19,204 --> 00:42:24,126 where she had suggested that her mother had passed away 739 00:42:24,167 --> 00:42:26,878 not long before the movie takes place. 740 00:42:26,962 --> 00:42:30,882 And that she was a bit spiritually adrift. She still wanted to believe in God, 741 00:42:31,591 --> 00:42:34,636 but she couldn't imagine herself going to church again. 742 00:42:35,846 --> 00:42:40,725 And her father asks her to come to church with her the following Sunday, 743 00:42:40,809 --> 00:42:44,479 that Baptist revival meeting that's on her refrigerator. 744 00:42:45,105 --> 00:42:48,984 That ft yer is actually an invitation from Claire's father. 745 00:42:50,318 --> 00:42:54,531 And Claire dies before she has a chance to go. 746 00:42:55,407 --> 00:42:57,325 These were all suggestions that Paula had made 747 00:42:57,367 --> 00:42:58,827 and I thought they were lovely. 748 00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:01,079 Everything God has done will remain forever. 749 00:43:01,163 --> 00:43:04,291 SCOTT: This particular scene here is the oldest graveyard in New Orleans, 750 00:43:04,332 --> 00:43:07,544 and all the graveyards in New Orleans are actually below sea-level. 751 00:43:07,627 --> 00:43:12,841 So when they get flooded all the bodies float to the top. 752 00:43:13,049 --> 00:43:15,844 The city's so unlike America. 753 00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:22,475 It is, 'cause it's so much more European in terms of flavor and look. 754 00:43:23,602 --> 00:43:24,728 BRUCKHEIMER: Well, we looked at Seattle. 755 00:43:24,811 --> 00:43:26,646 We needed a ferry and Seattle had a ferry. 756 00:43:26,688 --> 00:43:29,524 Also on the East Coast. We could've gone to the East Coast, 757 00:43:29,566 --> 00:43:31,860 but Tony loved the quality of New Orleans. 758 00:43:31,902 --> 00:43:34,154 And after Katrina hit, we were supposed to start in October, 759 00:43:34,196 --> 00:43:37,699 of course we couldn't, because the city was devastated. 760 00:43:38,283 --> 00:43:41,328 But Denzel felt that the people in New Orleans needed a shot in the arm 761 00:43:41,369 --> 00:43:44,706 and he gave up quite a bit of money to delay the movie 762 00:43:44,748 --> 00:43:47,000 and to begin shooting in February there. 763 00:43:48,877 --> 00:43:53,465 MARSILII: Throughout the movie we wanted our villain and the investigators 764 00:43:53,548 --> 00:43:56,009 to really be as smart as possible. 765 00:43:57,010 --> 00:43:59,763 Terry came up with this bit about the limo drivers. 766 00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:01,890 I thought it was a great way to have the bomber be there 767 00:44:01,932 --> 00:44:05,769 without the audience wondering why they didn't catch on or pick him up. 768 00:44:06,895 --> 00:44:10,232 One of the things we learned in our research was that 769 00:44:11,233 --> 00:44:15,070 investigators will scope out a funeral to see if the killer showed up 770 00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:16,821 in order to gloat. 771 00:44:17,572 --> 00:44:19,532 Or in Oerstadt's case he's actually showing up 772 00:44:19,574 --> 00:44:21,743 because he wants to see whether or not they're onto him. 773 00:44:21,826 --> 00:44:24,913 Whether or not they realize that Claire's the key to the whole thing. 774 00:44:25,622 --> 00:44:28,792 And once Oerstadt sees that he knows it's time to start running. 775 00:44:33,088 --> 00:44:35,131 They got good food there. 776 00:44:36,424 --> 00:44:37,592 (I " " ' (I " \' ' 'I Q " 777 00:44:37,842 --> 00:44:41,596 SCOTT: In a similar way, but that was 10 years ago, Enemy of the State... 778 00:44:41,638 --> 00:44:45,100 Now, I went and did my homework on all those techno-nerds 779 00:44:47,143 --> 00:44:49,813 And Enemy of the State was a homage to The Conversation, 780 00:44:51,398 --> 00:44:54,276 But I will say I updated it. 781 00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:59,030 All the kids in that surveillance-techno world which is the NSA world, 782 00:44:59,614 --> 00:45:02,742 were taken from me during my research going to NSA 783 00:45:02,784 --> 00:45:04,953 and looking at the kids who actually... 784 00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,497 You know, and at the CIA watching all these kids walking around 785 00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:10,917 in bell-bottomed jeans, and carrying computers, and long hair. 786 00:45:10,959 --> 00:45:13,586 You know, gone were the days of the suits. 787 00:45:13,628 --> 00:45:18,466 And the same with Brian Greene and Elden Henson 788 00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:21,136 and Shanti, Erika. 789 00:45:21,970 --> 00:45:26,266 I got all those ideas for my cast from meeting the real guys 790 00:45:26,308 --> 00:45:28,768 and seeing documentaries about those guys in white, 791 00:45:28,810 --> 00:45:31,646 and they're all wannabe rock 'n' rollers. 792 00:45:31,688 --> 00:45:34,649 MARSILII: One of the things that Terry in particular was adamant about, 793 00:45:34,774 --> 00:45:36,151 that with all these investigators 794 00:45:36,234 --> 00:45:38,486 and all this conventional evidence recovery going on, 795 00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:41,990 we really had to be sure that the crime was still unsolvable 796 00:45:44,326 --> 00:45:46,536 This scene where we got the ability 797 00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:49,581 to listen in on a conversation that took place four days ago 798 00:45:51,833 --> 00:45:56,129 That was a great way to demonstrate how important this technology is. 799 00:45:56,671 --> 00:46:01,009 İt's also interesting that Doug immediately picks up, 800 00:46:01,092 --> 00:46:04,679 the moment he hears this man's voice, that that's the guy. 801 00:46:09,184 --> 00:46:11,519 Now, it's subtle, but throughout this scene 802 00:46:11,603 --> 00:46:14,689 you can hear Oerstadt later telling her, 803 00:46:14,856 --> 00:46:18,360 telling Claire that there's another car that he's also got his eye on, 804 00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:21,446 and if it doesn't work he'll get back to her. 805 00:46:21,863 --> 00:46:25,200 This is kind of a classic example of one of those story choices 806 00:46:25,241 --> 00:46:28,036 that only happens after you let the idea 807 00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:30,538 marinate in your brain for a little while. 808 00:46:30,997 --> 00:46:34,376 When I was first outlining the story I knew that I wanted a paradox 809 00:46:34,459 --> 00:46:37,545 where Doug is responsible for his partner's death. 810 00:46:37,629 --> 00:46:40,256 But it was months into the process when I thought, 811 00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:45,303 "Hey, wait a minute. What if it turns out they also got Claire killed?" 812 00:46:47,389 --> 00:46:49,307 It had to be subtle, 813 00:46:49,391 --> 00:46:55,563 because we don't want Doug to seem negligent for missing it. 814 00:46:58,608 --> 00:47:00,819 But it's right there in plain sight. 815 00:47:00,902 --> 00:47:04,739 The killer would have left her alone if Doug and the team hadn't interfered. 816 00:47:05,824 --> 00:47:08,785 Which is just one paradox on top of another. 817 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:11,037 Behind the guy on the left. 818 00:47:12,247 --> 00:47:17,836 One of things that Tony and Jerry were particularly strong on 819 00:47:20,922 --> 00:47:24,926 The time-window is a tool that they're using and it's vital, 820 00:47:24,968 --> 00:47:27,178 but it's only one part of the arsenal. 821 00:47:28,805 --> 00:47:33,977 And it's kind of fun to watch them use conventional surveillance technology, 822 00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:37,021 face-recognition software, everything they can 823 00:47:37,105 --> 00:47:39,107 in order to get to the bottom of this. 824 00:47:39,649 --> 00:47:42,527 Because the time window is being surrounded 825 00:47:42,694 --> 00:47:45,488 by so much other technology that is 826 00:47:46,448 --> 00:47:49,451 real, that is currently being used, 827 00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:55,290 it adds a layer of authenticity to this, that 828 00:47:55,999 --> 00:47:58,126 I give Tony full credit for. 829 00:47:59,627 --> 00:48:04,090 Now, they're about to find a piece of video 830 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:09,721 Directly to the bombing, 831 00:48:09,804 --> 00:48:13,099 where they've got just a glimpse of him at the dock. 832 00:48:16,102 --> 00:48:19,147 And it's vital. It's only a glimpse of him, 833 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:22,484 but it gives us a vital piece of information that Doug can use later 834 00:48:22,525 --> 00:48:25,236 when he wants to send a warning back to himself. 835 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,322 It wouldn't be enough just to send a note back 836 00:48:27,405 --> 00:48:28,907 that says the ferry's gonna blow up, 837 00:48:28,990 --> 00:48:32,535 because that wouldn't help anybody catch the guy who did it. 838 00:48:33,495 --> 00:48:36,581 Oerstadt could just abort the mission and go blow up something else, 839 00:48:36,664 --> 00:48:38,500 something even bigger. 840 00:48:38,833 --> 00:48:41,169 We needed to have Doug see him doing something 841 00:48:41,211 --> 00:48:43,171 that could get him arrested. 842 00:48:43,296 --> 00:48:47,425 And videotaping a secure area at 4:00 in the morning worked for us. 843 00:48:47,926 --> 00:48:49,636 BRUCKHEIMER: Well, when we used Val for Top Gun, 844 00:48:49,677 --> 00:48:51,638 he was, you know, a young, up-and-coming actor, 845 00:48:51,971 --> 00:48:54,891 and on his way to Hollywood, I think he was in New York at the time, 846 00:48:54,974 --> 00:48:57,644 and he was in a play at that time, 847 00:48:57,685 --> 00:49:00,188 and we saw what a gifted young man he was 848 00:49:00,230 --> 00:49:04,317 and put him in a leading role, which turned out to be a big movie, 849 00:49:04,359 --> 00:49:06,444 we didn't know when we were making it we were making a big movie, 850 00:49:06,528 --> 00:49:07,862 we just thought we were making, 851 00:49:07,904 --> 00:49:11,699 you know, a very effective movie, but the audiences agreed with us. 852 00:49:11,741 --> 00:49:14,077 It became a movie that's still, you know, being played today 853 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,538 on DVD players around the world. 854 00:49:16,871 --> 00:49:20,166 And, you know, it's always great when you see actors spar 855 00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:24,128 and, you know, have to work in front of a camera, and you get the... 856 00:49:24,212 --> 00:49:26,422 I guess, the opportunity to watch them do it 857 00:49:26,506 --> 00:49:28,508 and be a fly on the wall. 858 00:49:28,550 --> 00:49:30,260 And they're both really professional, 859 00:49:30,343 --> 00:49:31,970 and know their lines, and are ready to go to work, 860 00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:34,305 and have a good time doing it. 861 00:49:35,306 --> 00:49:37,225 So, Val... Coming back together with Val, 862 00:49:37,308 --> 00:49:39,143 I've stayed in touch with him through the years, 863 00:49:39,227 --> 00:49:42,188 and finally found something that he would do with us, 864 00:49:43,606 --> 00:49:45,316 And also, you know, Val... 865 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,695 Actors love to take on challenges of playing different types of characters. 866 00:49:48,736 --> 00:49:51,864 And the fact that he got the opportunity to play somebody who's very smart, 867 00:49:51,906 --> 00:49:55,410 you know, I guess he felt that was something he could do. 868 00:49:56,411 --> 00:49:58,454 SCOTT: You know, I'm always criticized for my visual style, 869 00:49:58,538 --> 00:50:01,583 'cause they always think it's style over content. 870 00:50:01,916 --> 00:50:04,085 So, Ridley and me, and everybody that 871 00:50:04,127 --> 00:50:06,504 comes out of commercials, are always criticized. 872 00:50:06,588 --> 00:50:07,755 I mean, me more than anybody, 873 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:11,217 'cause I think I always reach harder and farther, 874 00:50:11,259 --> 00:50:13,636 in trying to try different things. 875 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:17,348 But style for me is always dictated to by the material, 876 00:50:17,932 --> 00:50:20,893 and by the world I'm trying to get into. 877 00:50:21,436 --> 00:50:23,771 And you know, this movie... 878 00:50:24,981 --> 00:50:27,775 Felt it needed a different touch, a different feel, 879 00:50:31,112 --> 00:50:33,114 And, as I say, the center of the movie is a love story. 880 00:50:33,156 --> 00:50:34,657 So, I always look for the center, 881 00:50:34,741 --> 00:50:39,412 and I look for the world of the ATF, and I look for Jerry Rudden's world. 882 00:50:39,746 --> 00:50:42,749 And somehow, I felt it needs to be simpler 883 00:50:42,957 --> 00:50:47,378 and slower, and... But still rich in terms of look. 884 00:50:48,004 --> 00:50:50,757 So, what we did, we did what are called cross-process, 885 00:50:50,798 --> 00:50:54,177 which heightens the contrast, 886 00:50:54,594 --> 00:50:58,222 and just makes everything that little... A little richer. 887 00:51:00,308 --> 00:51:03,936 And we varied the amounts of cross-process depending on 888 00:51:04,354 --> 00:51:05,605 what sequences we were shooting, 889 00:51:05,647 --> 00:51:07,482 where we were shooting, and how we were shooting it. 890 00:51:07,523 --> 00:51:10,693 But it just makes the film... The blacks that much richer, 891 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,655 And you're still getting... 892 00:51:13,696 --> 00:51:15,406 It's a little dangerous, 'cause your mid-tones can... 893 00:51:15,490 --> 00:51:18,701 You can lose them altogether, and we get so contrasty. 894 00:51:18,785 --> 00:51:21,829 But I just thought, it really is such a high-tech film, 895 00:51:22,038 --> 00:51:25,375 and I wanted that sort of... This brightness and hardness. 896 00:51:25,458 --> 00:51:28,127 It just felt like that was right for this material. 897 00:51:28,169 --> 00:51:30,004 BRUCKHEIMER: You know, for us, we love verisimilitude, 898 00:51:30,088 --> 00:51:33,675 so we always bring experts into the projects we work on, 899 00:51:33,758 --> 00:51:36,219 so we can learn, and also, the audience can learn at the same time. 900 00:51:36,302 --> 00:51:39,347 We try to give it some sense of authenticity. 901 00:51:39,764 --> 00:51:43,685 And Brian Greene is a physicist and an author, 902 00:51:43,935 --> 00:51:46,187 and understands a lot of things that we don't understand, 903 00:51:46,229 --> 00:51:48,439 and enlightened us on string theory, 904 00:51:51,693 --> 00:51:53,653 So, we got educated, and so did our writers, 905 00:51:53,695 --> 00:51:57,281 and so did Tony, and so we incorporated it into the screenplay. 906 00:51:57,365 --> 00:52:00,410 MARSILII: Tony wanted to adhere to science fact. 907 00:52:02,995 --> 00:52:06,582 He didn't want to make a "woo-woo science fiction movie," as he calls it. 908 00:52:07,208 --> 00:52:09,460 In fact, when we first talked to him, he wanted to cut 909 00:52:09,544 --> 00:52:11,462 the time-window completely, and replace it 910 00:52:11,546 --> 00:52:13,965 with conventional spy satellites. 911 00:52:15,383 --> 00:52:18,678 The idea being that the data would take four days to download, 912 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,264 much as it's being described here. 913 00:52:21,681 --> 00:52:23,307 Then, much later in the story, 914 00:52:23,391 --> 00:52:25,435 when it was time for Doug to go back in time, 915 00:52:25,518 --> 00:52:29,021 they'd reveal a completely different device that they had. 916 00:52:29,355 --> 00:52:32,191 SCOTT: There was a lot of pull and push between... 917 00:52:32,233 --> 00:52:34,736 Between myself and the writers 918 00:52:34,819 --> 00:52:38,698 was the science fact versus science fiction, you know. 919 00:52:38,823 --> 00:52:42,160 And for me, this movie was the science of surveillance 920 00:52:42,285 --> 00:52:44,412 that segues into time travel. 921 00:52:44,954 --> 00:52:48,249 And, really, that was the one-liner I could give on the movie. 922 00:52:48,583 --> 00:52:50,042 And it's... 923 00:52:50,251 --> 00:52:53,921 And my battles were those, trying to get the guys to say, 924 00:52:53,963 --> 00:52:57,759 "Listen, I'm really worried about it being science fiction." 925 00:52:58,593 --> 00:53:01,179 MARSILII: The explanations that follow 926 00:53:01,888 --> 00:53:07,935 were the source of endless, endless developmental wrestling, arguments. 927 00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:19,739 Scientific exposition, in general, is tough to put across on-screen, 928 00:53:20,573 --> 00:53:22,784 but especially here, if we weren't careful, 929 00:53:24,494 --> 00:53:26,162 There's nothing worse than having somebody 930 00:53:26,245 --> 00:53:30,208 meticulously explain something that you don't really care to know. 931 00:53:32,877 --> 00:53:35,505 On the other hand, Tony and Jerry clearly had a point. 932 00:53:35,588 --> 00:53:38,883 Something as fantastical as this time window, 933 00:53:39,342 --> 00:53:41,302 really demands an explanation, 934 00:53:41,886 --> 00:53:44,472 and Doug would demand an explanation. 935 00:53:45,139 --> 00:53:48,059 Especially in a movie where everything else is as real 936 00:53:48,643 --> 00:53:50,686 as the technology here. 937 00:53:52,313 --> 00:53:55,441 So Terry and I took two tacks in order to make this work. 938 00:53:56,317 --> 00:53:57,318 For one, 939 00:53:58,152 --> 00:54:02,240 we put some of the arguments that we were having behind the scenes, 940 00:54:02,323 --> 00:54:04,325 on-screen, into the movie. 941 00:54:05,326 --> 00:54:09,455 İt is frustrating to try to explain this, it's frustrating to try to understand it, 942 00:54:09,997 --> 00:54:14,210 the answers inevitably involve all kinds of high-end physics stuff, 943 00:54:14,794 --> 00:54:17,922 so we chose to let Doug be frustrated. 944 00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:23,135 Let Denny have a hard time explaining it. 945 00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:26,806 Let them, you know, fall back on the same sales pitch 946 00:54:26,848 --> 00:54:31,060 they used at the grant committee to get the funding for this thing. 947 00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:33,813 And sometimes, that's really the best way through a problem 948 00:54:33,855 --> 00:54:36,190 when you're working on a story. 949 00:54:36,315 --> 00:54:39,735 The fact that we were having so much conflict behind the scenes on this 950 00:54:39,819 --> 00:54:42,029 ended up enhancing the scene. 951 00:54:42,488 --> 00:54:44,198 -If we keep the mass low... -No! 952 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,117 And the second thing we decided, 953 00:54:47,243 --> 00:54:49,954 the second thing we did, was to use humor. 954 00:54:50,663 --> 00:54:54,250 I had been living in New York, with my then-pregnant wife, 955 00:54:55,293 --> 00:54:58,004 when that massive four-day blackout hit, 956 00:54:58,796 --> 00:55:01,883 that took out half the Eastern Seaboard. 957 00:55:02,425 --> 00:55:04,594 It was sweltering, and it was horrible, 958 00:55:05,845 --> 00:55:08,389 but it came back to me later, when we were 959 00:55:08,848 --> 00:55:10,892 in Jerry's office, talking with Dr. Greene 960 00:55:10,975 --> 00:55:14,145 about how much power it would take to bend time. 961 00:55:14,562 --> 00:55:17,857 And I thought it was a fun way to make this even more plausible. 962 00:55:19,734 --> 00:55:21,736 BRUCKHEIMER: I think the hardest part in a movie like this 963 00:55:21,903 --> 00:55:23,905 is to make the audience believe what's actually happening, 964 00:55:23,988 --> 00:55:28,075 and create a scenario that they can live with, understand. 965 00:55:28,117 --> 00:55:30,661 And that's the problem with pictures like this, 966 00:55:30,745 --> 00:55:32,246 unless they're totally science fiction, 967 00:55:32,288 --> 00:55:34,415 and we wanted to do more science fact than science fiction. 968 00:55:34,707 --> 00:55:36,375 So, by bringing in the experts that we brought in, 969 00:55:37,001 --> 00:55:40,087 they helped me understand, which helped us, in turn, 970 00:55:40,421 --> 00:55:43,257 make the writers understand, and, hopefully, in turn, 971 00:55:43,341 --> 00:55:46,260 making the audience understand what's going on. 972 00:55:47,929 --> 00:55:50,014 SCOTT: We shot an additional scene, 973 00:55:50,097 --> 00:55:53,559 and the additional scene was to help clarify 974 00:55:53,893 --> 00:55:56,270 you know, why Denzel's character comes... 975 00:55:56,604 --> 00:55:58,064 SCOTT: When he gets back at the end, 976 00:55:58,105 --> 00:56:01,275 you know, and how he gets back at the end, there were two theories, 977 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:03,778 and both theories were supported by Brian Greene. 978 00:56:03,861 --> 00:56:05,738 4 /'\§\'/\\ ;';I;\\//j//;\\~ ;';';\\\“:Z/L 'LXI zfigsLiii 'Li'. 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' '. “ 'W. m 988 00:56:40,481 --> 00:56:42,316 MARSILII: It was important here, though, 989 00:56:42,358 --> 00:56:44,318 to establish some scientific theory 990 00:56:44,402 --> 00:56:47,238 that at least allowed for the possibility. 991 00:56:48,406 --> 00:56:49,532 Denny's telling the truth. 992 00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:53,661 This is not the prevailing, accepted theory, 993 00:56:53,744 --> 00:56:56,205 the "branching universe theory," as we call it, 994 00:56:56,330 --> 00:56:58,708 but some do believe that it's possible. 995 00:56:59,542 --> 00:57:01,252 It was important for Doug to have that 996 00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:05,506 so that he didn't just seem to be committing suicide later in the film. 997 00:57:10,511 --> 00:57:14,181 It's not quite clear perhaps, from the geography of the movie, 998 00:57:14,265 --> 00:57:17,435 but this time displacement chamber where they're putting the note, 999 00:57:17,518 --> 00:57:19,770 and where later Doug himself will go, 1000 00:57:19,854 --> 00:57:23,858 this chamber is directly behind the screen that they're watching. 1001 00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:29,822 That is how Doug's able to shine a laser light straight through it 1002 00:57:30,698 --> 00:57:32,742 and into the past itself. 1003 00:57:33,743 --> 00:57:34,827 SHANTI: We're ready. 1004 00:57:35,494 --> 00:57:39,832 It's kind of interesting because, considering the end of the film, 1005 00:57:40,207 --> 00:57:44,295 when we're going to have the four-day-old version of Doug show up, 1006 00:57:45,755 --> 00:57:49,341 having never met Claire, but finding her strangely familiar, 1007 00:57:50,634 --> 00:57:54,388 like so much else in the film, we were able to hide it in plain sight. 1008 00:57:55,431 --> 00:57:58,476 The other Doug is there on the screen, in the time window. 1009 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,853 They're watching him right now. 1010 00:58:01,145 --> 00:58:06,650 But we still manage to forget about it, if the movie's been pulled off correctly. 1011 00:58:07,318 --> 00:58:11,030 If we got away with it, the audience has forgotten he's there, 1012 00:58:12,073 --> 00:58:16,118 off back in his own house, living the rest of his life that night, 1013 00:58:16,994 --> 00:58:19,705 while our guy is trying to save Claire. 1014 00:58:21,874 --> 00:58:24,919 One of the things I'm very happy about with, the way 1015 00:58:25,336 --> 00:58:28,923 the time window lab technicians have been characterized in the movie, 1016 00:58:30,758 --> 00:58:34,970 Denny was inspired by a Brookhaven physicist 1017 00:58:35,054 --> 00:58:38,099 who had died in the Swiss Air Flight 111 crash. 1018 00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:42,895 I was intrigued because the man's website... He looked like a guitarist. 1019 00:58:42,937 --> 00:58:47,525 His website listed all of his publications on quark-gluon plasma, 1020 00:58:47,608 --> 00:58:51,195 and right next to them was a list of all his favorite garage bands 1021 00:58:54,281 --> 00:58:56,450 We wanted to flip the movie cliché 1022 00:58:56,492 --> 00:59:00,079 that physicists are all nerds, or unattractive somehow. 1023 00:59:00,412 --> 00:59:03,791 We knew we were going to be with these people for a long time, 1024 00:59:03,833 --> 00:59:06,627 and it was a conscious choice to give them a sense of humor, 1025 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:09,130 really do justice to them as characters. 1026 00:59:09,171 --> 00:59:11,382 If they're people you enjoy hanging out with, 1027 00:59:11,465 --> 00:59:13,008 that'll make it that much more palatable 1028 00:59:13,092 --> 00:59:15,678 when it's time for them to get serious. 1029 00:59:17,513 --> 00:59:19,640 SCOTT: Matt Craven, who's in Crimson Tide... 1030 00:59:19,723 --> 00:59:22,726 Yeah, so this is my second time out with Matt. 1031 00:59:22,810 --> 00:59:27,022 And I just thought that Matt was a real good combination in terms of 1032 00:59:27,106 --> 00:59:30,818 a buddy for Denzel in this movie. 1033 00:59:30,860 --> 00:59:32,361 Put it down, Larry. I'm not coming back. 1034 00:59:32,444 --> 00:59:35,698 MARSILII: It's kind of interesting the way this shakes out, 1035 00:59:35,781 --> 00:59:39,618 because with these paradoxes, 1036 00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:41,579 especially once Doug and the team 1037 00:59:41,662 --> 00:59:44,290 begin actively trying to change the past, 1038 00:59:45,791 --> 00:59:50,087 time itself becomes like another character in the movie. 1039 00:59:51,338 --> 00:59:55,718 Ostensibly, our villain is the bomber, but really it's time itself, 1040 00:59:57,219 --> 00:59:59,763 or fate, destiny. 1041 01:00:01,348 --> 01:00:06,020 It's constantly outwitting Doug. It's constantly one step ahead of him, 1042 01:00:07,855 --> 01:00:10,524 anticipating everything that he thinks of doing, 1043 01:00:11,192 --> 01:00:14,153 until everything ends up exactly the way it was supposed to go 1044 01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:17,698 in the first place, no matter what he does. 1045 01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:22,953 Tony likes to joke sometimes that the movie is about Denzel versus Jesus. 1046 01:00:24,205 --> 01:00:28,876 But another way to look at it is that it's Denzel versus time, or destiny, 1047 01:00:34,715 --> 01:00:38,844 SCOTT: You know, I had found this guy in the bayou who bred pit bulls 1048 01:00:38,886 --> 01:00:42,848 and he was a good 0|' boy from the South, from New Orleans. 1049 01:00:42,890 --> 01:00:47,728 So I got him, I cast him. Then we went out and actually put him on tape here. 1050 01:00:47,770 --> 01:00:50,522 And this guy's extraordinary. He was way out there. 1051 01:00:50,564 --> 01:00:52,650 Brilliant. A guy called Chad. 1052 01:00:52,733 --> 01:00:55,986 Anyway, I made the mistake of giving it to JC, just for 20 minutes 1053 01:00:56,070 --> 01:00:58,447 and all of a sudden he became this guy. 1054 01:00:58,530 --> 01:01:01,575 It was fantastic, 'cause it was audio-visual. 1055 01:01:03,494 --> 01:01:07,665 And he worked so hard at his New Orleans accent 1056 01:01:07,748 --> 01:01:10,376 and this character... Just after 20 minutes. 1057 01:01:10,417 --> 01:01:13,462 And it took me a lot to talk him off the ledge. 1058 01:01:13,545 --> 01:01:17,841 But it's funny, all this stuff all in the dark here at night, 1059 01:01:17,925 --> 01:01:21,345 this was Genesis at night in the rain 1060 01:01:21,428 --> 01:01:26,100 in February, in New Orleans. February in New Orleans is freezing. 1061 01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:28,269 Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise. 1062 01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:34,275 It is so cold. Night shooting in the rain with Genesis. 1063 01:01:34,358 --> 01:01:37,319 Genesis is still, you know... 1064 01:01:37,403 --> 01:01:40,906 Digital cameras still have this umbilical cord, so it's all a pain in the ass. 1065 01:01:40,948 --> 01:01:45,411 We managed to get it down in the end so it became less cumbersome. 1066 01:01:45,452 --> 01:01:50,457 But it's still tricky, especially night-shooting in the rain. 1067 01:01:52,293 --> 01:01:53,294 GUNNARS: He's still breathing. 1068 01:01:53,377 --> 01:01:57,464 MARSILII: We're setting up the big goggle-chase here. 1069 01:01:59,341 --> 01:02:02,428 One of the wonderful things for me about working with Terry was that 1070 01:02:02,469 --> 01:02:06,640 he and I think on the same sort of off-kilter wavelength. 1071 01:02:07,641 --> 01:02:12,521 My initial outline had this split-level car chase with these time goggles. 1072 01:02:12,604 --> 01:02:15,691 I really desperately wanted to do it because, 1073 01:02:15,774 --> 01:02:17,276 well, I'd never seen anything like it before 1074 01:02:17,318 --> 01:02:19,320 and whenever you can do something like that with a car chase, 1075 01:02:19,403 --> 01:02:21,238 that's golden. 1076 01:02:22,990 --> 01:02:24,366 I was afraid he might not go for it, 1077 01:02:24,450 --> 01:02:28,162 because it requires another leap of scientific faith 1078 01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:30,456 on the part of the audience. 1079 01:02:30,497 --> 01:02:32,166 It's one thing to say that we can look back in time 1080 01:02:32,207 --> 01:02:36,920 using this gigantic, you know, time-window device 1081 01:02:37,004 --> 01:02:41,133 and this huge particle accelerator, or whatever it is that powers it. 1082 01:02:42,301 --> 01:02:44,595 I was afraid it might seem like too much 1083 01:02:44,678 --> 01:02:48,849 that we also have a portable version that can fit on somebody's back. 1084 01:02:50,017 --> 01:02:56,982 Fortunately, Jerry, Tony, everybody involved got on board with it. 1085 01:02:57,024 --> 01:03:01,403 With the drama of the scene and the cool mechanics, 1086 01:03:01,487 --> 01:03:04,365 the dynamics of this chase were just so irresistible 1087 01:03:04,448 --> 01:03:08,410 that we were willing to push the bounds of science fact. 1088 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,334 SCOTT: I think the movie's got, you know, 1089 01:03:15,376 --> 01:03:17,878 some really unique aspects to it. 1090 01:03:17,961 --> 01:03:21,924 For instance the... Which is all Bill Marsilii, 1091 01:03:22,007 --> 01:03:24,676 you know, who was the original writer. 1092 01:03:24,718 --> 01:03:27,221 Which is, you know... Car chases have been done to death. 1093 01:03:29,014 --> 01:03:30,641 You know, shootouts have been done to death. 1094 01:03:30,724 --> 01:03:34,603 And always the true strength is concept or idea. 1095 01:03:34,686 --> 01:03:36,939 And that's what was so interesting here, 'cause the idea... 1096 01:03:37,022 --> 01:03:39,691 I don't think I shot the car chase particularly well. 1097 01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:42,611 To be honest with you, I thought it was pretty mediocre, what I did, 1098 01:03:42,694 --> 01:03:48,242 by nature of time and logistical problems and stuff. 1099 01:03:48,283 --> 01:03:51,161 But the concept is so strong, 1100 01:03:54,623 --> 01:03:57,251 İn terms of the general public who have seen it. 1101 01:03:58,919 --> 01:04:00,838 MARSILII: One of the movies that for me 1102 01:04:00,921 --> 01:04:03,715 that had kind of inspired this goggle chase... 1103 01:04:04,925 --> 01:04:07,177 There was a Clint Eastwood movie, one of the Dirty Harry films, 1104 01:04:07,261 --> 01:04:11,432 I think it was The Dead Pool, where there's a car chase. 1105 01:04:11,473 --> 01:04:15,936 Everything about it obeys the normal conventions of a car chase, 1106 01:04:16,019 --> 01:04:19,523 but one of the cars is a toy car with a bomb in it. 1107 01:04:19,606 --> 01:04:21,233 Oh, shit! 1108 01:04:23,068 --> 01:04:24,778 What? What happened? What happened? 1109 01:04:24,862 --> 01:04:28,240 And once we got into this idea 1110 01:04:29,950 --> 01:04:32,744 of goggles that would extend the time window, 1111 01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:38,292 it got really fun to sit down and come up with all kinds of variations on, 1112 01:04:38,333 --> 01:04:40,294 "Okay, what could happen during this chase?" 1113 01:04:40,335 --> 01:04:42,296 Okay, I got him. I got him. He's back in range. 1114 01:04:43,255 --> 01:04:45,299 One of the little secrets I can tell you here is 1115 01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:48,635 that the only reason the time window goes back 1116 01:04:48,719 --> 01:04:51,346 four days, six hours and some minutes, 1117 01:04:52,306 --> 01:04:54,433 was so that during this car chase, 1118 01:04:54,475 --> 01:04:57,519 Oerstadt could be driving on an empty road in the middle of the night, 1119 01:04:57,603 --> 01:05:00,981 while Doug has to plow through rush hour traffic. 1120 01:05:02,399 --> 01:05:06,403 We didn't originally envision so much vehicular mayhem, 1121 01:05:06,487 --> 01:05:10,657 but it is pretty exciting. I'll give him that. 1122 01:05:13,327 --> 01:05:16,121 One of the fun things with this goggle chase was 1123 01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:18,582 ringing all the possible changes on, 1124 01:05:18,665 --> 01:05:21,502 "Okay, what possible situations could we have?" 1125 01:05:22,002 --> 01:05:26,006 There's a moment where the bad guy's got a clear road 1126 01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:27,883 and Doug doesn't. 1127 01:05:27,966 --> 01:05:29,510 Good. Now stay with him. 1128 01:05:29,551 --> 01:05:32,387 At one point Oerstadt stops 1129 01:05:32,471 --> 01:05:35,182 at an accident and that causes Doug to 1130 01:05:35,265 --> 01:05:40,521 have to stop in the middle of rush hour traffic. 1131 01:05:41,813 --> 01:05:45,192 Originally, in fact, we had a moment where Doug hits the brakes 1132 01:05:45,692 --> 01:05:50,405 and actually slides into Oerstadt's back seat. 1133 01:05:50,489 --> 01:05:52,115 He puts the goggles on 1134 01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:54,910 and he is inside the other guy's car. 1135 01:05:54,993 --> 01:05:57,162 They've overlapped in time. 1136 01:05:57,871 --> 01:06:01,041 It turned out to be incredibly daunting, physically to do that 1137 01:06:01,083 --> 01:06:04,044 and Tony also felt that it was a bit "woo-woo." Science fiction. 1138 01:06:04,127 --> 01:06:07,548 So, instead we gave him this 180 spin. 1139 01:06:09,591 --> 01:06:12,261 SCOTT: Actually, on first screening, we had one bad laugh, which... 1140 01:06:12,344 --> 01:06:14,054 I died, 'cause I thought we'd really screwed up. 1141 01:06:14,137 --> 01:06:15,222 I thought that was it. 1142 01:06:15,264 --> 01:06:19,893 It's where Denzel... He spins his truck and he ends up facing Jim Caviezel. 1143 01:06:19,935 --> 01:06:23,397 And Jim Caviezel, obviously, played Christ in The Passion. 1144 01:06:24,398 --> 01:06:27,651 And Denzel said... Spontaneously, he just said, 1145 01:06:27,734 --> 01:06:30,195 "Jesus, yeah, he's dead ahead of me." 1146 01:06:30,237 --> 01:06:33,323 And we had it in the cut and nobody in the editing room spotted it. 1147 01:06:33,407 --> 01:06:36,451 And all the audience laughed out loud, there was this roar of laughter. 1148 01:06:36,535 --> 01:06:40,372 We thought we'd fallen off the wagon in terms of credibility. 1149 01:06:43,417 --> 01:06:47,004 İt was because JC, as we called him, Jim Caviezel. 1150 01:06:47,087 --> 01:06:49,089 I think Jim's real name was Doug Caviezel. 1151 01:06:49,131 --> 01:06:53,093 Till he did the Passion, he changed it to Jim Caviezel. 1152 01:06:53,135 --> 01:06:55,304 Consequent initials JC. 1153 01:06:56,597 --> 01:07:01,184 MARSILII: And yet another situation now, we've got a scene where... 1154 01:07:01,268 --> 01:07:03,562 Earlier we had Doug being able to see, 1155 01:07:03,604 --> 01:07:06,106 and the guys at the time-window lab can't. 1156 01:07:06,565 --> 01:07:10,902 Now the goggle's smashed, so they can see what's going on and he can't. 1157 01:07:12,279 --> 01:07:14,281 Whenever you've got something like this, 1158 01:07:14,364 --> 01:07:17,034 you really wanna try and take advantage of 1159 01:07:17,117 --> 01:07:20,162 every possible cool moment within it. 1160 01:07:20,245 --> 01:07:23,457 And I'm so glad we got as many of them as we did. 1161 01:07:23,957 --> 01:07:29,171 SCOTT: And I felt I was always a little bit, little bit, little bit loose. 1162 01:07:29,254 --> 01:07:31,506 Not loose in terms of the size of my frame. 1163 01:07:31,590 --> 01:07:35,677 But I never quite got a handle on this goggle rig. 1164 01:07:35,761 --> 01:07:37,054 I mean, trying to... 1165 01:07:37,137 --> 01:07:39,765 I just hoped that the audience was getting enough of this. 1166 01:07:39,806 --> 01:07:42,309 Goggle rig was actually the piece of technology 1167 01:07:42,392 --> 01:07:44,728 which is communicating all this back there. 1168 01:07:44,811 --> 01:07:45,896 They obviously get it. 1169 01:07:45,979 --> 01:07:48,732 But I wanted to make that connection I didn't feel was strong enough. 1170 01:07:48,815 --> 01:07:51,360 'Cause I felt, I wanted to get inside the rig a little bit more. 1171 01:07:51,443 --> 01:07:54,488 Inside, you know, Denzel, the pupil of his eye, 1172 01:07:54,571 --> 01:07:56,156 and do that sort of stuff, you know. 1173 01:07:58,492 --> 01:08:01,703 You know, so I never quite got it as sophisticated, 1174 01:08:01,787 --> 01:08:06,291 or as much of a study as I wanted to make it, you know. 1175 01:08:07,042 --> 01:08:08,543 BRUCKHEIMER: Well, Tony loves to storyboard things. 1176 01:08:08,627 --> 01:08:11,421 In fact, everything that he does is storyboarded, every single scene, 1177 01:08:11,505 --> 01:08:14,549 he gets up at 4:00 in the morning, and he starts doing his storyboard. 1178 01:08:14,633 --> 01:08:15,967 Something like a Hummer chase, of course, 1179 01:08:17,677 --> 01:08:19,137 We started filming it. 1180 01:08:19,179 --> 01:08:21,556 He does a lot of the drawing himself. He brings the storyboard artist. 1181 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,601 But every frame of this film was storyboarded. 1182 01:08:26,103 --> 01:08:27,687 MARSILII: One of the things 1183 01:08:27,771 --> 01:08:30,023 that strongly helps motivate this chase for me 1184 01:08:30,065 --> 01:08:33,402 is that we've seen earlier that Minuti is still breathing. 1185 01:08:33,860 --> 01:08:35,862 Yes, it's been four days since he got shot, 1186 01:08:35,904 --> 01:08:38,824 but there is still somehow the possibility, at least, 1187 01:08:38,865 --> 01:08:40,909 that his partner is still alive. 1188 01:08:41,076 --> 01:08:42,702 And if that weren't enough, 1189 01:08:42,744 --> 01:08:46,373 this might be their last chance to track down Oerstadt. 1190 01:08:47,374 --> 01:08:49,418 If they lose sight of him here, 1191 01:08:49,501 --> 01:08:52,421 they could probably lose sight of him forever. 1192 01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:56,383 This is Doug's only chance to track him down 1193 01:08:58,927 --> 01:09:02,806 To ultimately go back and try to save everybody on that ferry. 1194 01:09:04,266 --> 01:09:05,725 SCOTT: I wasn't just shooting in New Orleans, 1195 01:09:05,767 --> 01:09:08,061 but I shot a lot in the bayou, you know. 1196 01:09:08,103 --> 01:09:11,314 And that was never in the script. Long Island was in the script. 1197 01:09:11,398 --> 01:09:14,234 But I just wanted, you know... 1198 01:09:18,655 --> 01:09:20,657 And, so, therefore, I adapted lots of locations 1199 01:09:20,740 --> 01:09:22,242 and moved them out of the city. 1200 01:09:22,325 --> 01:09:24,035 And the bayou in winter. 1201 01:09:24,077 --> 01:09:26,037 'Cause, you know, we ended up because of Katrina... Originally, 1202 01:09:26,079 --> 01:09:28,915 we were meant to be shooting in September. 1203 01:09:28,999 --> 01:09:32,586 And because of Katrina, we had to move our shoot back till the winter, 1204 01:09:32,627 --> 01:09:34,087 but I love the winter in the bayou. 1205 01:09:35,589 --> 01:09:38,049 Those birch trees became sort of silver white, 1206 01:09:38,091 --> 01:09:40,594 and the graphics were spectacular. 1207 01:09:42,679 --> 01:09:45,432 And after Katrina happened, they wanted me to go to Miami. 1208 01:09:45,515 --> 01:09:46,766 And wanted me to go to Seattle 1209 01:09:46,808 --> 01:09:48,894 which would've been different movies there, but... 1210 01:09:48,935 --> 01:09:50,228 You know, it's hard to let go 1211 01:09:50,270 --> 01:09:53,773 because it became such an important character in the movie, 1212 01:09:53,815 --> 01:09:55,609 where we placed the movie. 1213 01:09:55,692 --> 01:10:00,030 And I couldn't come to terms with those other places, 1214 01:10:00,113 --> 01:10:02,407 they'd have been different movies. 1215 01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:07,954 MARSILII: Yet another example of planting the clues in plain sight 1216 01:10:07,996 --> 01:10:10,040 to what's going to happen later. 1217 01:10:10,248 --> 01:10:12,292 No. Nothing. 1218 01:10:13,210 --> 01:10:17,088 Originally, we had a couple of lines earlier in the FBI briefing scene 1219 01:10:17,130 --> 01:10:18,715 where somebody alluded to the fact 1220 01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:24,179 that somebody claiming to be a federal agent stole an ambulance 1221 01:10:25,639 --> 01:10:27,682 out of the hospital, the other night. 1222 01:10:27,766 --> 01:10:31,102 But, ultimately, that fell out of the picture. 1223 01:10:33,647 --> 01:10:35,232 The sequence that's coming up now, 1224 01:10:35,315 --> 01:10:40,779 as Doug makes his way into the bait camp with the backpack, 1225 01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:44,407 and the fellows back at the time-window lab, 1226 01:10:44,741 --> 01:10:46,993 are talking him through it describing everything. 1227 01:10:48,537 --> 01:10:49,871 Do you see him? 1228 01:10:50,205 --> 01:10:54,334 I was reminded of a scene in Alfred Hitchcock's Rebecca, 1229 01:10:55,835 --> 01:10:58,630 which is also present in the Daphne du Maurier novel. 1230 01:11:04,344 --> 01:11:08,390 Mrs. Danvers is describing to Mrs. de Winter 1231 01:11:09,933 --> 01:11:12,769 how Rebecca used to walk across the room. 1232 01:11:12,852 --> 01:11:14,854 "There's where she used to write her letters. 1233 01:11:14,938 --> 01:11:17,232 "There's where she would lay her things. 1234 01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:23,113 And you're following it in an empty room. 1235 01:11:23,321 --> 01:11:26,700 I think it's the diesel fuel, like at the ferry. 1236 01:11:27,576 --> 01:11:30,328 Doug's having that same sort of experience here. 1237 01:11:34,457 --> 01:11:36,209 I have to say, watching this, 1238 01:11:36,251 --> 01:11:42,382 it's one thing to write a line of stage direction that says, 1239 01:11:42,716 --> 01:11:44,467 "Shanti begins to cry." 1240 01:11:46,261 --> 01:11:48,388 It's another thing to see it. 1241 01:11:48,471 --> 01:11:53,560 I really love the performances from these folks. 1242 01:11:56,730 --> 01:11:59,399 The moment between Elden and Erika there, 1243 01:12:00,275 --> 01:12:02,402 as they're watching what's happened, 1244 01:12:02,485 --> 01:12:05,071 really sells the impact of this for me. 1245 01:12:08,283 --> 01:12:11,661 Doug still has some hope that he's wrong here and... 1246 01:12:16,041 --> 01:12:19,878 Of course, getting shot and stabbed and set on fire is not enough. 1247 01:12:22,130 --> 01:12:24,090 Tony felt that it was really important 1248 01:12:24,174 --> 01:12:27,385 that he also get eaten by alligators afterwards. 1249 01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,015 SCOTT: But actually a little spooky because all the alligators around there, 1250 01:12:32,098 --> 01:12:33,350 and they're all in hibernation. 1251 01:12:33,433 --> 01:12:36,269 But we came in with our air boats, and these alligators are really pissed off. 1252 01:12:36,353 --> 01:12:39,814 So they come out, they're all trying to sleep for the winter, so... 1253 01:12:39,898 --> 01:12:42,400 And alligators can move fast. 1254 01:12:42,442 --> 01:12:44,152 They can do the 100 yards in even time, yeah, 1255 01:12:44,235 --> 01:12:46,738 so you gotta get out of there. 1256 01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:50,784 MARSILII: If we had chosen to, we could have decided 1257 01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:53,453 that the reason they're watching this woman 1258 01:12:53,495 --> 01:12:55,372 is because she's the President's daughter, 1259 01:12:55,455 --> 01:12:57,832 or the Prime Minister, or something like that. 1260 01:12:57,916 --> 01:13:00,919 That would've been one way to solve a number of plot problems 1261 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,171 as we were creating the story. 1262 01:13:04,964 --> 01:13:07,175 But Terry and I both felt 1263 01:13:08,635 --> 01:13:12,097 that the wonderful thing about it is that she's a normal woman, 1264 01:13:12,263 --> 01:13:15,392 living her life, coming out of a bad relationship, 1265 01:13:17,811 --> 01:13:21,731 and she's looking forward to a future that's never gonna happen. 1266 01:13:22,982 --> 01:13:25,944 As they're discussing the possible ramifications 1267 01:13:25,985 --> 01:13:27,737 of whether or not they've changed the past, 1268 01:13:27,821 --> 01:13:30,824 it's also kind of intriguing 1269 01:13:30,907 --> 01:13:33,952 that now they're part of what they're investigating. 1270 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,246 They're not just watching. 1271 01:13:36,329 --> 01:13:39,833 They have to discuss whether or not they're responsible for it. 1272 01:13:40,667 --> 01:13:45,380 Also, these guys are physicists, they're not investigators by trade. 1273 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:47,132 “ Flw. “ w. ' 1274 01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:50,009 They're not used to seeing people get killed. 1275 01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:55,056 It's kind of uniquely frustrating to be a witness to a murder, 1276 01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:57,684 and they're not allowed to testify about it. 1277 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:01,104 All they could do was watch. 1278 01:14:03,523 --> 01:14:06,151 When Doug finds Claire's earring there, 1279 01:14:06,192 --> 01:14:09,487 this is how he knows this is where she was killed. 1280 01:14:10,113 --> 01:14:12,365 This is where he has to go, 1281 01:14:12,407 --> 01:14:15,493 when he comes back in time, steals an ambulance, 1282 01:14:15,535 --> 01:14:18,872 that's where he has to drive, if he's going to save her life. 1283 01:14:20,206 --> 01:14:21,541 SCOTT: Carroll Oerstadt, the bad guy, 1284 01:14:21,583 --> 01:14:23,376 Jim Cavieze|'s character, we adapted him, 1285 01:14:23,418 --> 01:14:26,337 we put him... He had a house in the 9th Ward. 1286 01:14:28,798 --> 01:14:33,803 And, so, when they eventually locate, you know, where he lives, 1287 01:14:33,887 --> 01:14:35,889 they go to the 9th Ward, which is the area 1288 01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:38,224 that got hit the hardest during Katrina. 1289 01:14:38,308 --> 01:14:42,854 This particular sequence here is, was in the 9th Ward. 1290 01:14:43,772 --> 01:14:46,941 But, emotionally, everybody is like they were knocked sideways, 1291 01:14:47,025 --> 01:14:49,486 you know, looking at all that devastation, 1292 01:14:49,736 --> 01:14:52,947 and it was emotionally very upsetting. 1293 01:14:53,031 --> 01:14:55,909 The guys were... They were all dragging all afternoon. 1294 01:14:57,285 --> 01:15:01,748 MARSILII: At one point, Tony had wanted the scene to play out 1295 01:15:01,790 --> 01:15:05,335 in a son' of a cookie cutter suburban area. 1296 01:15:06,252 --> 01:15:07,670 And then, after Katrina, 1297 01:15:07,754 --> 01:15:10,089 we realized that if we were going to portray the devastation at all, 1298 01:15:10,173 --> 01:15:12,717 this was really the place to do it. 1299 01:15:13,885 --> 01:15:17,806 Oerstadt, as a character, has relatively little screen time 1300 01:15:17,889 --> 01:15:20,433 where we actually get to hear him talk. 1301 01:15:21,434 --> 01:15:24,771 So, by his very nature, 1302 01:15:24,854 --> 01:15:28,107 we need to see whatever we can about him through implication. 1303 01:15:30,193 --> 01:15:32,654 BRUCKHEIMER: You know, Tony found a location for the Oerstadt chase, 1304 01:15:32,737 --> 01:15:35,323 where he was arrested, that he felt was intriguing. 1305 01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:38,493 And that's why he picked the bayou, it's really beautiful looking 1306 01:15:38,576 --> 01:15:41,079 and the way he shot it makes it even prettier. 1307 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,539 SCOTT: When we were scouting the bayou, 1308 01:15:42,622 --> 01:15:43,665 we were scouting in airboats, 1309 01:15:43,748 --> 01:15:47,126 which are brilliant. Yeah. 'Cause you can go over... 1310 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:49,254 You can actually drive... We were driving across roads 1311 01:15:49,295 --> 01:15:52,966 and over intersections in these things, in these airboats. 1312 01:15:53,049 --> 01:15:57,262 And I just thought it was interesting to have Oerstadt try to escape 1313 01:16:00,473 --> 01:16:03,935 When we shot that sequence there, it was pouring with rain, it was... 1314 01:16:03,977 --> 01:16:06,187 But it worked for the sequence. 1315 01:16:13,486 --> 01:16:18,283 MARSILII: This interrogation scene was informed to a great extent 1316 01:16:18,324 --> 01:16:21,494 by transcripts from Timothy McVeigh that Tony had found. 1317 01:16:21,578 --> 01:16:27,292 And he also had video footage of ATF interrogations of other bombers. 1318 01:16:28,835 --> 01:16:32,130 And we did use some of it here, particularly in Doug's trade craft. 1319 01:16:32,171 --> 01:16:35,925 Often an investigator will flatter the suspect, 1320 01:16:36,676 --> 01:16:39,846 as Doug does here, saying, "We're impressed with the expertise. 1321 01:16:39,929 --> 01:16:42,599 "Could you help us out? Tell us how you did this? It's fascinating." 1322 01:16:42,682 --> 01:16:48,021 But we didn't want Oerstadt's military background 1323 01:16:49,272 --> 01:16:52,275 to ultimately be the thing that motivates him. 1324 01:16:54,193 --> 01:16:58,281 Terry and I were very strong that we wanted this character 1325 01:16:58,364 --> 01:17:00,533 to really be about destiny. 1326 01:17:01,868 --> 01:17:05,747 It's much more in keeping with the themes of the rest of the film, 1327 01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:10,710 if everything he does is motivated out of a sense of thwarted destiny. 1328 01:17:10,752 --> 01:17:14,631 There was a way that his future was supposed to go and it didn't. 1329 01:17:15,673 --> 01:17:18,259 And he's taking steps to rectify that. 1330 01:17:20,511 --> 01:17:22,180 SCOTT: Yeah, it's funny 'cause I didn't... 1331 01:17:22,221 --> 01:17:23,640 When I was trying to piece together, 1332 01:17:23,723 --> 01:17:25,892 it's really tough trying to piece together a bad guy. 1333 01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:29,771 Even though, in the script, it was a domestic terrorist and... 1334 01:17:29,854 --> 01:17:32,440 But I did... They didn't... 1335 01:17:32,523 --> 01:17:34,567 They didn't have him down in terms of who he was, 1336 01:17:34,609 --> 01:17:35,860 and I'll be very blunt here. 1337 01:17:35,902 --> 01:17:39,322 The guy was not a good bad guy. He was stereotypical. 1338 01:17:40,073 --> 01:17:43,910 And I had a different sort of feel or a different actor in mind, 1339 01:17:44,535 --> 01:17:49,415 and then I only met with JC, Jim Caviezel 1340 01:17:49,540 --> 01:17:52,085 because Denzel's agent is his agent. 1341 01:17:52,126 --> 01:17:55,254 And I said, "| don't wanna meet with Jesus." 1342 01:17:55,296 --> 01:17:57,340 I said, "He's not right for this role." 1343 01:17:57,423 --> 01:18:02,804 And, now, he came in. He sat with me for 30 seconds. I said, "You got it." 1344 01:18:02,887 --> 01:18:08,434 I said he's great, 'cause JC is such an extraordinary odd individual 1345 01:18:09,936 --> 01:18:12,939 And the character you see in this movie is JC. 1346 01:18:14,774 --> 01:18:17,110 BRUCKHEIMER: I think Jim wanted to do a part like this 1347 01:18:17,151 --> 01:18:19,779 because, you know, he's remembered as Jesus. 1348 01:18:19,821 --> 01:18:22,615 And he wants to be remembered as a good actor. 1349 01:18:22,657 --> 01:18:26,452 And that he's versatile and you can make him play any kinds of parts. 1350 01:18:26,494 --> 01:18:28,621 The fact that he took on this role was a thrill for us 1351 01:18:28,705 --> 01:18:30,289 'cause he's such a gifted actor. 1352 01:18:30,373 --> 01:18:32,125 And he does such wonderful preparation. 1353 01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:35,336 He spent a lot of time reading transcripts 1354 01:18:35,420 --> 01:18:38,631 from people who were serial bombers 1355 01:18:38,715 --> 01:18:41,718 or people who were, I guess you would say, 1356 01:18:41,801 --> 01:18:43,594 on the wrong side of the law. 1357 01:18:43,636 --> 01:18:45,638 And really got into their psyche. 1358 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,849 And fortunately for us, transferred it to the screen. 1359 01:18:47,932 --> 01:18:50,601 He's a very creepy character on screen. 1360 01:18:52,895 --> 01:18:54,313 MARSILII: This scene perhaps 1361 01:18:54,355 --> 01:18:57,191 more than any other critical exchange in the film 1362 01:18:57,567 --> 01:19:01,863 was really improved through Tony's fidelity 1363 01:19:01,946 --> 01:19:05,658 to research, through Jim Caviezel's suggestions 1364 01:19:05,742 --> 01:19:09,495 for what motivated the character, how he wanted to play it, 1365 01:19:09,996 --> 01:19:12,248 and certainly, you know, 1366 01:19:12,331 --> 01:19:15,501 Terry and I, our own views on the subject. 1367 01:19:17,336 --> 01:19:22,008 The danger when you have three or four people collaborating 1368 01:19:22,091 --> 01:19:25,136 on what a scene should be about, 1369 01:19:25,762 --> 01:19:28,681 is that it'll end up a horrific jumble. 1370 01:19:30,850 --> 01:19:34,020 This all came together very well. 1371 01:19:34,103 --> 01:19:37,190 -'Cause I seen what's coming. -Did... Have you? What? 1372 01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:42,904 In fact, it was during the course of our meetings 1373 01:19:42,987 --> 01:19:45,156 about the interrogation scene 1374 01:19:46,032 --> 01:19:49,160 that it occurred to me that a bomb has a destiny, 1375 01:19:51,370 --> 01:19:56,292 "a predetermined fate set by the hand of its creator," as Oerstadt says. 1376 01:19:57,293 --> 01:19:59,212 He's got a second sense about this. 1377 01:19:59,295 --> 01:20:02,048 He knows that he's never going to be convicted, 1378 01:20:02,131 --> 01:20:04,926 that the case is never going to go to trial, 1379 01:20:05,009 --> 01:20:08,262 because ultimately, he's going to die on the ferry. 1380 01:20:08,346 --> 01:20:11,682 And anyone who tries to alter that destiny will be destroyed. 1381 01:20:12,975 --> 01:20:15,686 He might not know that that's how it's gonna go, 1382 01:20:18,940 --> 01:20:23,820 I'm happy that we lucked onto that metaphor that, with a bomb, 1383 01:20:23,903 --> 01:20:27,907 "Anyone who tries to stop it from happening causes it to happen." 1384 01:20:29,075 --> 01:20:33,996 That's really the theory that Doug is up against 1385 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,957 throughout the whole movie. 1386 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,960 He's been trying to prevent Claire's death, 1387 01:20:39,043 --> 01:20:41,337 trying to prevent the ferry explosion. 1388 01:20:42,338 --> 01:20:45,133 And could he actually be helping it happen? 1389 01:20:47,218 --> 01:20:49,262 SCOTT: Bruce Greenwood was another great actor 1390 01:20:49,345 --> 01:20:53,266 that I wanted to work with for a long time, but... 1391 01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:55,810 No, I had a great collection of actors, 1392 01:20:55,893 --> 01:20:57,687 and they feel very real, there's a strength. 1393 01:20:57,770 --> 01:21:00,273 And nobody feels out of place, nobody feels shooed-in, 1394 01:21:00,314 --> 01:21:03,359 they all feel like they sit comfortably. 1395 01:21:04,694 --> 01:21:09,115 MARSILII: We were really great fans of law enforcement, 1396 01:21:09,157 --> 01:21:14,787 and we were pretty clear that we didn't want anybody 1397 01:21:15,580 --> 01:21:19,500 on the law enforcement side of the story to be a bad guy. 1398 01:21:20,793 --> 01:21:24,255 McCready's being harsh here, but he's absolutely right. 1399 01:21:25,798 --> 01:21:28,384 They've got the evidence they need. 1400 01:21:29,385 --> 01:21:31,262 Using this machine, 1401 01:21:31,762 --> 01:21:35,183 at least in theory, got one of their agents killed. 1402 01:21:35,266 --> 01:21:38,060 And Val's character isn't a bad guy either. 1403 01:21:38,144 --> 01:21:41,606 He had to file a report. He waited as long as he could. 1404 01:21:44,066 --> 01:21:48,112 SCOTT: And this roll I shot with sunglasses on. Jerry hated me for that. 1405 01:21:49,906 --> 01:21:51,532 Wanted to see their eyes. 1406 01:21:51,949 --> 01:21:53,075 He thought Val... 1407 01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:57,246 Although the sun was going down and I think Val had his glasses on, 1408 01:21:57,330 --> 01:22:00,166 so I think that gave D the idea to put his glasses on. 1409 01:22:00,458 --> 01:22:02,335 To be honest, in hindsight, I think 1410 01:22:02,418 --> 01:22:05,004 maybe I should've shot the scene without the sunglasses, 1411 01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:08,007 'cause it's a pivotal scene, an emotional scene, 1412 01:22:08,090 --> 01:22:12,011 so therefore, it would've helped a little bit if you had seen D's eyes. 1413 01:22:12,637 --> 01:22:15,473 I think we shot this whole scene in 40 minutes, 1414 01:22:15,514 --> 01:22:17,475 because we started off shooting the scene, 1415 01:22:17,516 --> 01:22:20,811 had rainbirds, and we were in good shape... 1416 01:22:20,853 --> 01:22:23,272 We were meant to start shooting at, like, noon, 1417 01:22:23,356 --> 01:22:26,025 and had the rainbirds, we were gonna shoot it in the rain, 1418 01:22:26,108 --> 01:22:27,151 'cause it was, you know... 1419 01:22:27,193 --> 01:22:29,487 That other stuff we'd seen in the bayou was in the rain. 1420 01:22:29,528 --> 01:22:32,740 And the guys had all these plastic macs on. 1421 01:22:32,823 --> 01:22:34,951 And the rain sounded like fish frying. 1422 01:22:35,034 --> 01:22:37,703 The sound was just impossible, 1423 01:22:38,329 --> 01:22:42,041 so in the end I just ripped their raincoats off and we shot it. 1424 01:22:42,875 --> 01:22:48,214 MARSILII: People have asked me if Déyévu was a response 1425 01:22:49,048 --> 01:22:50,925 to the September 11th attacks. 1426 01:22:51,676 --> 01:22:53,803 And of course, it wasn't originally. 1427 01:22:53,886 --> 01:22:58,474 It was something that we'd been working on for many years before that. 1428 01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:03,938 But one thing that I did take away from that experience, 1429 01:23:04,063 --> 01:23:05,398 was the memorial service, 1430 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,067 the candlelight vigils that happened afterwards. 1431 01:23:08,150 --> 01:23:09,860 They were heartbreaking. 1432 01:23:10,069 --> 01:23:14,448 And I thank Tony and Jerry, because they were expensive to shoot. 1433 01:23:15,032 --> 01:23:16,534 It took a long time. 1434 01:23:18,577 --> 01:23:20,329 And it's only a touch, but 1435 01:23:21,747 --> 01:23:25,543 I give them full credit that they went that extra mile to include it. 1436 01:23:26,419 --> 01:23:28,546 Personally, it was important to me. 1437 01:23:30,089 --> 01:23:33,968 SCOTT: All these pictures you see in Paula's apartment are of Paula. 1438 01:23:34,051 --> 01:23:36,762 She gave me a whole bunch of boxes of her pictures, 1439 01:23:36,804 --> 01:23:39,390 just 'cause when she was a kid, her parents 1440 01:23:39,432 --> 01:23:41,642 obviously photographed her growing up. 1441 01:23:41,726 --> 01:23:44,645 So, all those pictures you see, those are pictures of Paula. 1442 01:23:44,729 --> 01:23:47,023 ' .' 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(“ 1443 01:23:47,481 --> 01:23:50,985 MARSILII: Denzel, Jim, Paula, 1444 01:23:51,068 --> 01:23:56,407 and then later, even Adam, with the Denny character, who's so cynical, 1445 01:23:56,449 --> 01:24:00,619 all of them, at one point or another, suggested moments 1446 01:24:01,579 --> 01:24:05,541 in which their characters were seen as having a spiritual dimension. 1447 01:24:06,876 --> 01:24:08,002 And the danger is always about 1448 01:24:08,085 --> 01:24:09,587 becoming too heavy-handed about that, 1449 01:24:09,628 --> 01:24:12,590 and nobody wants to get a Sunday school lesson 1450 01:24:12,631 --> 01:24:15,468 when they're out to see a good action film. 1451 01:24:15,926 --> 01:24:22,683 But the fact that they all saw that in the story and embraced it, 1452 01:24:23,142 --> 01:24:24,226 really warmed my heart. 1453 01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:26,479 And it gave me some hope that maybe 1454 01:24:26,937 --> 01:24:30,316 the same themes would reach an audience the same way. 1455 01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:32,526 We both know what happens if I don't. 1456 01:24:33,361 --> 01:24:34,612 I mentioned a moment ago 1457 01:24:34,653 --> 01:24:38,324 that we didn't want anyone to come off as a bad guy, 1458 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:45,998 In an early cut of the film, Val's last moment in the story 1459 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,670 was when he tells Doug, "It's not your fault Claire dies." 1460 01:24:54,965 --> 01:24:59,345 And reshot this, and added an extra moment 1461 01:25:00,513 --> 01:25:05,893 where Val tacitly approves of what they're about to do. 1462 01:25:08,020 --> 01:25:10,356 Nobody here wants a disaster to happen. 1463 01:25:12,525 --> 01:25:16,362 This scene coming up, when Doug goes back 1464 01:25:16,404 --> 01:25:18,489 and Denny helps him out, 1465 01:25:19,615 --> 01:25:22,743 I got a phone call the day that they were shooting this. 1466 01:25:23,369 --> 01:25:25,830 Adam Goldberg had asked for an exchange 1467 01:25:27,081 --> 01:25:30,167 where Doug asks him, 1468 01:25:31,085 --> 01:25:32,545 you know, "Why are you helping me to do this? 1469 01:25:32,586 --> 01:25:35,714 "| thought you didn't believe it was possible to change the past." 1470 01:25:35,756 --> 01:25:40,219 And Adam suggested the line, "Yeah, but I do believe in God." 1471 01:25:41,387 --> 01:25:43,597 And I said, "Adam said that?" 1472 01:25:45,224 --> 01:25:46,642 There were spiritual themes in the movie 1473 01:25:46,725 --> 01:25:51,021 that I was hoping nobody would notice until it was too late to out them. 1474 01:25:53,607 --> 01:25:57,069 So, I suggested a slight addition. 1475 01:25:58,362 --> 01:25:59,905 "Don't tell anybody." 1476 01:26:01,115 --> 01:26:05,744 He doesn't want to lose his cynical, physicist science cred. 1477 01:26:07,371 --> 01:26:10,416 And I'm really happy with the way he played it. 1478 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,465 SCOTT: You know, the time box, or whatever you want to call it, 1479 01:26:17,548 --> 01:26:20,593 that's a really hard thing to make credible, you know, so... 1480 01:26:20,926 --> 01:26:23,262 And obviously, we educated the audience 1481 01:26:23,345 --> 01:26:26,891 in terms of the process of sending solid matter back 1482 01:26:26,932 --> 01:26:31,145 where we sent the note back, and we put it into that little time box. 1483 01:26:31,228 --> 01:26:35,441 And originally, the machine that actually transports objects back, 1484 01:26:35,524 --> 01:26:40,696 again, I went into the real world and took it from an MRI machine. 1485 01:26:40,779 --> 01:26:42,573 You know, so I took an MRI machine. 1486 01:26:42,615 --> 01:26:45,951 But in the end they say, "Well, we've never sent humans back." 1487 01:26:45,993 --> 01:26:47,453 Or they say they've never sent humans back. 1488 01:26:47,495 --> 01:26:50,372 So therefore, it felt like an MRI machine is built for a human, 1489 01:26:50,456 --> 01:26:54,793 so therefore, we just made Denzel climb into this little box, you know. 1490 01:26:55,252 --> 01:26:59,131 So we had to try and find something that I felt was more credible. 1491 01:27:00,758 --> 01:27:04,220 You know, it feels like he's one of those astronauts, 1492 01:27:04,303 --> 01:27:05,804 when he's sitting in there talking back to him. 1493 01:27:05,888 --> 01:27:09,391 So, that was good, in that it had a sense of humor to it, as well. 1494 01:27:09,475 --> 01:27:12,144 So, the humor and the moon-shot quality, you know, 1495 01:27:12,186 --> 01:27:16,106 gave a sort of credence, or a validity, to what we were trying to do. 1496 01:27:16,148 --> 01:27:17,691 MARSILII: One of the potential stumbling blocks 1497 01:27:17,775 --> 01:27:19,485 of the original premise was 1498 01:27:19,527 --> 01:27:22,488 that if you could use this machine to go back, or to send something back, 1499 01:27:22,571 --> 01:27:25,658 why would anybody spend most of the movie just looking? 1500 01:27:27,535 --> 01:27:31,413 It wasn't enough to just say, "You're not allowed. It's a rule." 1501 01:27:31,497 --> 01:27:35,668 We felt that we needed to have a seemingly insurmountable obstacle. 1502 01:27:36,669 --> 01:27:39,255 Otherwise you'd just get impatient with the movie. 1503 01:27:39,338 --> 01:27:41,590 And maybe we never did overcome that for some people, 1504 01:27:41,674 --> 01:27:46,220 but the key to a really good love story 1505 01:27:47,513 --> 01:27:50,015 is the obstacle that separates the lovers. 1506 01:27:50,099 --> 01:27:52,268 And the greater the obstacle, 1507 01:27:52,351 --> 01:27:55,396 the stronger the love has to be to overcome it. 1508 01:27:57,022 --> 01:28:00,025 So, I thought, what if this machine kills you? 1509 01:28:02,027 --> 01:28:03,988 That made... To me, that actually made the whole story 1510 01:28:04,029 --> 01:28:06,073 a lot more profound. 1511 01:28:07,032 --> 01:28:08,534 And Terry dove into it. 1512 01:28:08,617 --> 01:28:14,039 He thought it was fantastic that Doug has to literally die 1513 01:28:14,123 --> 01:28:16,584 in order to try to save Claire. 1514 01:28:17,042 --> 01:28:19,837 NURSE: What the hell? DOCTOR: All right, hold on, everybody. 1515 01:28:22,548 --> 01:28:27,344 About exactly how Doug should arrive when he's in the past. 1516 01:28:28,554 --> 01:28:31,599 Our sale draft of the script had him arriving fully clothed 1517 01:28:31,682 --> 01:28:36,020 with his gun, his ID, and a Brookhaven National Lab badge 1518 01:28:36,061 --> 01:28:41,483 that helped Claire at the end to figure out what might be going on here. 1519 01:28:43,319 --> 01:28:46,614 Then Tony at one point wanted him to go back naked. 1520 01:28:46,989 --> 01:28:50,909 And we thought that's a little bit like The Terminator. 1521 01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:56,248 We ended up with Denzel in his underwear. Collaboration. 1522 01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:58,417 SCOTT: I have a style. 1523 01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:01,378 I mean, it's not just the filming style, it's the editing style, 1524 01:29:01,420 --> 01:29:04,840 and, you know, this is my eighth movie with Chris Lebenzon, who's my editor. 1525 01:29:04,923 --> 01:29:07,259 And Chris, he was just the one editor. 1526 01:29:07,301 --> 01:29:10,054 You know, on Man on Fire I had three different editors. 1527 01:29:10,095 --> 01:29:13,432 But Chris edited the... He was the... He's the master. 1528 01:29:13,932 --> 01:29:17,978 And he... And Chris is, this is my eighth movie. 1529 01:29:18,270 --> 01:29:22,107 But Chris is absolutely brilliant in terms of story, character, 1530 01:29:22,274 --> 01:29:23,817 performance, timing. 1531 01:29:23,901 --> 01:29:27,613 And after eight movies, obviously has become my right arm. 1532 01:29:29,365 --> 01:29:31,033 And this was... 1533 01:29:32,910 --> 01:29:34,620 It was a long movie on the page. 1534 01:29:34,703 --> 01:29:37,539 And when I say long, the script was a little long. 1535 01:29:37,623 --> 01:29:41,627 But I tend to shoot things at a given pace, 1536 01:29:41,710 --> 01:29:44,129 and so they tend to come out shorter 1537 01:29:44,421 --> 01:29:48,133 than the average director, say. My rule of thumb, I think, is... 1538 01:29:49,343 --> 01:29:51,553 One page constitutes one minute of screen time, 1539 01:29:51,637 --> 01:29:54,807 I think with me it's more like two-thirds of a minute of screen time, 1540 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:59,395 but my first cut, when I'd finished shooting 1541 01:29:59,937 --> 01:30:03,232 was two hours, I think, and three minutes. 1542 01:30:03,816 --> 01:30:05,776 That's brilliant for a first cut, you know. 1543 01:30:05,818 --> 01:30:09,530 But that's all down to Chris, Chris Leb, 1544 01:30:09,613 --> 01:30:13,158 'cause I was actually shooting when he's doing all of that. 1545 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,495 But Chris has got a knacky, an uncanny... 1546 01:30:16,578 --> 01:30:20,207 Chris has an uncanny knack of, you know, selecting 1547 01:30:20,290 --> 01:30:22,626 the right performance for the right moment. 1548 01:30:22,668 --> 01:30:26,088 And being able to let things sit and breathe a little bit more. 1549 01:30:26,171 --> 01:30:28,340 I've got, say, ADD, and I sort of, 1550 01:30:28,382 --> 01:30:32,428 when I'm left to my own devices, it'll be like Domino on speed. 1551 01:30:32,511 --> 01:30:34,346 A bounty hunter on speed. 1552 01:30:34,430 --> 01:30:37,850 But Chris lets things breathe and live and move, 1553 01:30:37,891 --> 01:30:48,694 and he always has a great shape to every scene he does in a movie. 1554 01:30:48,694 --> 01:30:50,863 MARSILII: Now here, structurally, this is kind of interesting 1555 01:30:55,033 --> 01:31:00,038 That we ever jump to a scene that does not in any way include Doug. 1556 01:31:01,039 --> 01:31:04,042 We're seeing a moment that took place in the past 1557 01:31:07,045 --> 01:31:08,547 But we're not looking through the window. 1558 01:31:08,630 --> 01:31:10,507 The point of that structurally is that 1559 01:31:10,549 --> 01:31:12,801 we're seeing what's about to happen to her 1560 01:31:13,886 --> 01:31:16,054 but Doug is racing to get there. 1561 01:31:18,849 --> 01:31:23,770 SCOTT: I've got an amazingly strong family in terms of my work family, 1562 01:31:23,854 --> 01:31:26,064 and they all have a say. 1563 01:31:26,106 --> 01:31:28,358 You know, Chris Seagers, who's my production designer, 1564 01:31:30,277 --> 01:31:34,156 You know, Chris was my art director on Spy Game. 1565 01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:37,451 And I made him my production designer 1566 01:31:37,534 --> 01:31:39,286 right at the beginning of Spy Game. 1567 01:31:39,369 --> 01:31:42,581 And he stunned me when he did Spy Game. 1568 01:31:42,748 --> 01:31:47,461 He did Man on Fire, he did Domino, and he's done Déjé Vu with me. 1569 01:31:47,544 --> 01:31:52,925 And Chris is tireless, tireless in his pursuit of getting things better, 1570 01:31:52,966 --> 01:31:56,428 and making it work, and he's a huge talent. 1571 01:31:56,595 --> 01:31:58,305 And the same with Harry Gregson-Williams, 1572 01:31:58,388 --> 01:32:00,933 who does my music, you know. 1573 01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:03,810 Harry's got a little bit of a tortured soul. 1574 01:32:03,894 --> 01:32:07,689 Harry's a little bit of Man on Fire, he's a little bit of Creasy. 1575 01:32:07,773 --> 01:32:11,610 And every time he does a movie he gives a part of his soul, 1576 01:32:11,652 --> 01:32:15,739 so that's why the scores that he does are so interesting, 'cause they're... 1577 01:32:16,281 --> 01:32:20,160 Harry's very sweet and he's got a very dark side as well 1578 01:32:20,244 --> 01:32:22,663 so you always get that combination. 1579 01:32:22,746 --> 01:32:25,666 So again, he's one of what I call my family. 1580 01:32:27,584 --> 01:32:29,545 MARSILII: Also here we see Doug getting shot 1581 01:32:29,628 --> 01:32:32,506 which became vitally important. 1582 01:32:33,966 --> 01:32:35,384 After Tony initially signed on, 1583 01:32:35,467 --> 01:32:39,471 one of the things that he was concerned about was 1584 01:32:39,972 --> 01:32:42,516 after the rescue of Claire, 1585 01:32:42,599 --> 01:32:47,020 he didn't feel that Doug was strongly motivated enough to take her home. 1586 01:32:47,104 --> 01:32:50,023 At one point he'd even suggested cutting that entire sequence 1587 01:32:50,107 --> 01:32:52,401 and going straight to the ferry. 1588 01:32:52,609 --> 01:32:54,278 But he had a point. 1589 01:32:54,319 --> 01:33:00,117 And the way that we got around it was having Doug get shot here. 1590 01:33:02,744 --> 01:33:05,831 Then it required them to go to her house 1591 01:33:05,914 --> 01:33:09,376 because he wasn't going to make it otherwise. 1592 01:33:11,461 --> 01:33:14,631 SCOTT: You know, this bait camp in the bayou was actually a working store. 1593 01:33:14,673 --> 01:33:20,345 It was a working bait camp. And the people who ran the bait camp, 1594 01:33:20,429 --> 01:33:23,974 they were an old couple, very sweet couple who were retired, 1595 01:33:24,182 --> 01:33:26,184 and they lived in the house next door. 1596 01:33:26,226 --> 01:33:27,769 But they said, "Listen, we wanna remodel." 1597 01:33:27,853 --> 01:33:30,731 I said, "Done. We'll help you remodel." 1598 01:33:31,356 --> 01:33:36,153 So we blew... So now the store got rebuilt. 1599 01:33:36,194 --> 01:33:38,572 So that was the store they wanted to remodel, that thing in flames there. 1600 01:33:38,655 --> 01:33:43,201 That's what's called "Hollywood remodeling." 1601 01:33:44,578 --> 01:33:46,496 MARSILII: This explosion and fire, 1602 01:33:47,789 --> 01:33:49,416 beyond the physical spectacle of it, 1603 01:33:49,499 --> 01:33:52,878 and we all love it when something blows up real good, 1604 01:33:53,795 --> 01:33:58,342 it was important to the story that Oerstadt believe 1605 01:33:58,967 --> 01:34:00,969 Claire and Doug are dead. 1606 01:34:01,970 --> 01:34:04,473 Otherwise, it would not quite be plausible 1607 01:34:04,556 --> 01:34:07,434 that he continues with his plan if he thinks 1608 01:34:08,226 --> 01:34:12,439 that there's a cop or somebody who's already on his case. 1609 01:34:16,234 --> 01:34:18,278 By blowing the place up 1610 01:34:18,362 --> 01:34:21,948 and allowing him to drive off without seeing them escape, 1611 01:34:24,284 --> 01:34:26,620 it makes it a bit more plausible 1612 01:34:27,204 --> 01:34:29,915 that Oerstadt still thinks he can get away with this. 1613 01:34:29,956 --> 01:34:31,500 He's already killed one agent. 1614 01:34:31,583 --> 01:34:34,711 Now he believes he's killed these folks as well. 1615 01:34:35,337 --> 01:34:39,383 And he's on his way to blow up the ferry in Claire's car. 1616 01:34:41,385 --> 01:34:43,762 I'm a federal agent. Hang on, hang on. 1617 01:34:43,845 --> 01:34:46,181 There's only one reason, really, 1618 01:34:47,516 --> 01:34:50,435 that I wanted Claire to have a hood over her head, 1619 01:34:51,478 --> 01:34:55,982 because that moment when they look into each other's eyes for the first time, 1620 01:34:56,066 --> 01:34:59,945 that was something that... It was just that much stronger 1621 01:35:06,326 --> 01:35:09,496 Later, when Doug seems to know too much about her, 1622 01:35:14,126 --> 01:35:15,877 Creates so much suspicion in her 1623 01:35:15,961 --> 01:35:18,672 that it motivates everything that follows. 1624 01:35:19,172 --> 01:35:23,218 SCOTT: Denzel falling in love with Paula, 1625 01:35:24,469 --> 01:35:26,054 that was a challenge in itself, 1626 01:35:26,138 --> 01:35:28,974 because they never get together on-screen 1627 01:35:29,015 --> 01:35:31,393 until you're an hour into the movie. 1628 01:35:31,476 --> 01:35:33,311 BRUCKHEIMER: No, I think the major concern with the fact 1629 01:35:33,353 --> 01:35:35,522 that they don't have much screen time is, 1630 01:35:35,605 --> 01:35:36,898 when do we get them together? 1631 01:35:36,982 --> 01:35:38,817 How quickly can we get them together on-screen? 1632 01:35:38,900 --> 01:35:40,819 So, we constantly had to look at the screenplay 1633 01:35:40,902 --> 01:35:43,739 and find out ways to bring them together much sooner. 1634 01:35:43,822 --> 01:35:45,741 MARSILII: And especially in a story like this, 1635 01:35:45,824 --> 01:35:48,243 every moment they do have counts, 1636 01:35:49,619 --> 01:35:54,374 because he's had four days to become emotionally attached to her. 1637 01:35:55,584 --> 01:35:58,336 Here she has really a matter of hours. 1638 01:35:58,754 --> 01:36:02,340 And every look Paula gives him, every moment, every touch, 1639 01:36:04,634 --> 01:36:08,305 is so delicate, it really helps us. 1640 01:36:10,223 --> 01:36:14,436 SCOTT: And so, I was worried that the love story, or the relationship, 1641 01:36:14,811 --> 01:36:17,647 whatever you wanna call it, wouldn't work. 1642 01:36:18,231 --> 01:36:22,110 You know, but I think the strength is in the... 1643 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,363 You know, one, in terms of how I shot it, 1644 01:36:25,405 --> 01:36:27,365 but two, most of all, the chemistry between the two people, 1645 01:36:27,407 --> 01:36:29,242 between Paula and Denzel, 1646 01:36:29,326 --> 01:36:34,080 and, you know, Denzel's commitment to making this relationship work. 1647 01:36:34,915 --> 01:36:37,459 I think that I managed to pull it off. 1648 01:36:38,210 --> 01:36:41,379 MARSILII: One of the lovely things about this to me is that, 1649 01:36:43,048 --> 01:36:46,676 here you've got a man who knows everything about this woman. 1650 01:36:48,595 --> 01:36:51,306 He's read her dairies, he's gone through everything she owns, 1651 01:36:51,389 --> 01:36:54,309 he's watched her in the most private moments of her life. 1652 01:36:56,770 --> 01:36:59,272 She doesn't know a thing about him. 1653 01:37:01,066 --> 01:37:04,277 He's gonna have to try as hard as he can to play this properly, 1654 01:37:04,361 --> 01:37:07,572 so that he doesn't come off to her like a stalker. 1655 01:37:08,490 --> 01:37:11,576 SCOTT: And this house we shot, you know, Claire's apartment, 1656 01:37:12,994 --> 01:37:16,206 was actually in a house which was in 1657 01:37:18,500 --> 01:37:20,877 a suburb of New Orleans called the Bywater. 1658 01:37:20,919 --> 01:37:24,089 And the house had a preservation order on it, though, 1659 01:37:24,381 --> 01:37:27,217 so we couldn't put nails in the walls or do anything, so... 1660 01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:29,135 But the people were very sweet, 1661 01:37:29,219 --> 01:37:31,805 so we actually built the house on-stage, 1662 01:37:32,347 --> 01:37:35,600 but we took all the doors, all the windows, from the real house, 1663 01:37:35,684 --> 01:37:40,105 and brought them to the stage, so that's why I think it feels like a real... 1664 01:37:43,191 --> 01:37:45,610 And that... You know, that's what I do with Chris, it's the same. 1665 01:37:45,652 --> 01:37:49,447 Actually, it's funny, I just realized it's the same rule of thumb, so... 1666 01:37:49,531 --> 01:37:52,242 What Chris Seagers, my production designer, and I do, 1667 01:37:52,450 --> 01:37:54,661 we always find real locations 1668 01:37:55,620 --> 01:37:59,291 and then we then we build them if we have to. 1669 01:37:59,332 --> 01:38:01,334 You know, we always take the... Everything. 1670 01:38:03,378 --> 01:38:04,754 Beg, borrow and steal as much dressing 1671 01:38:04,796 --> 01:38:06,631 as we can from the real locations, 1672 01:38:06,715 --> 01:38:10,385 'cause it's funny, real life, it's always hard to reproduce, 1673 01:38:10,468 --> 01:38:13,722 it's always much stranger than fiction, you know. 1674 01:38:13,805 --> 01:38:18,643 And so, Chris and I, we'd beg, borrow and steal from the real locations and... 1675 01:38:18,685 --> 01:38:21,813 But that's the way we... You know, you can say, 1676 01:38:21,897 --> 01:38:23,273 "God, I wonder what her house looks like." 1677 01:38:23,315 --> 01:38:24,733 So, we looked at, 1678 01:38:24,816 --> 01:38:26,651 you know, in terms of Claire on the page, 1679 01:38:26,735 --> 01:38:28,153 what does her house really look like? 1680 01:38:28,194 --> 01:38:30,488 And Claire, you know... 1681 01:38:30,572 --> 01:38:33,617 And Paula's character in the original script, 1682 01:38:33,992 --> 01:38:36,286 she was a child's book illustrator, 1683 01:38:36,328 --> 01:38:40,999 and I felt it was a little too saccharine and a little too cliched. 1684 01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:42,626 So, when I started scouting, 1685 01:38:42,667 --> 01:38:45,337 when I first went down to New Orleans, 1686 01:38:45,503 --> 01:38:48,632 I met a girl who was a maitre d' in a restaurant, 1687 01:38:49,174 --> 01:38:53,011 and I found it much more real to have a working girl as a... 1688 01:38:53,053 --> 01:38:54,346 You know, who did... 1689 01:38:54,429 --> 01:38:57,349 She painted some murals inside her apartment, 1690 01:38:57,390 --> 01:38:59,184 but I felt a real girl was much more interesting, 1691 01:38:59,267 --> 01:39:03,521 so Paula's character, and her work, was based off this real girl 1692 01:39:03,563 --> 01:39:05,106 we met at a restaurant in New Orleans, 1693 01:39:05,190 --> 01:39:08,026 and I gave that character to Paula. 1694 01:39:08,276 --> 01:39:11,613 And then I got her to go and spend time working as a maTtre d' 1695 01:39:11,696 --> 01:39:14,199 in one of the hot restaurants, called NOLA, 1696 01:39:14,282 --> 01:39:16,910 just to get a sense of, you know, 1697 01:39:17,577 --> 01:39:19,287 not just about how you're a maitre d', 1698 01:39:19,371 --> 01:39:21,623 but it'd give a sense of who the people are around you. 1699 01:39:21,706 --> 01:39:24,584 And you always get ideas when you touch the real world. 1700 01:39:26,711 --> 01:39:29,547 MARSILII: Tony's big note about these scenes, 1701 01:39:29,923 --> 01:39:33,551 once Doug and Claire are actually together is that, 1702 01:39:35,261 --> 01:39:38,056 he felt that the less of them, the better. 1703 01:39:38,098 --> 01:39:40,892 He very much wanted to get to the ferry. 1704 01:39:42,185 --> 01:39:45,105 We had scripted, and he had even shot, 1705 01:39:46,189 --> 01:39:48,149 a bit more between them, 1706 01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:50,193 more character moments, 1707 01:39:50,235 --> 01:39:54,406 moments where Doug is telling her what he knows about her 1708 01:39:59,327 --> 01:40:01,079 It's very fortunate 1709 01:40:02,038 --> 01:40:05,750 that Denzel and Paula have such a strong chemistry together. 1710 01:40:06,001 --> 01:40:10,005 That's something that, as a writer, you can really only pray for. 1711 01:40:11,715 --> 01:40:15,593 The danger of this story, structurally, is that 1712 01:40:16,928 --> 01:40:18,930 it's a love story where the man and the woman 1713 01:40:18,972 --> 01:40:21,766 really don't have that much time together 1714 01:40:28,690 --> 01:40:31,234 If they don't seem made for each other, 1715 01:40:31,276 --> 01:40:34,612 the whole thing can really, kind of, just fall flat. 1716 01:40:36,948 --> 01:40:39,784 SCOTT: Now, we talked, and the writers here, they said the same. 1717 01:40:39,868 --> 01:40:41,828 This is, you know, this is a piece of Hitchcock. 1718 01:40:41,911 --> 01:40:45,915 This movie, this story, is a piece of, you know, movie history. 1719 01:40:45,957 --> 01:40:49,544 And to be honest, I was never a great fan of Hitchcock's. 1720 01:40:49,919 --> 01:40:53,757 But Hitchcock's movies, you know, they were great films, but they're not... 1721 01:40:53,798 --> 01:40:56,301 It's like, people say, "What sort of painting do you like?" 1722 01:40:56,384 --> 01:40:59,471 And I'd say, you know, "I'm not into, 1723 01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:03,558 "you know, modern, contemporary, abstract painters, you know. 1724 01:41:03,641 --> 01:41:06,061 "I'm more into Hieronymous Bosch and Brueghel, " 1725 01:41:06,144 --> 01:41:08,688 psychological, religious persecution. 1726 01:41:09,147 --> 01:41:10,648 Yeah, so... 1727 01:41:10,690 --> 01:41:13,610 No, listen, he did some really interesting movies, 1728 01:41:13,651 --> 01:41:16,821 but they were not... They were, I don't know... 1729 01:41:17,322 --> 01:41:20,742 I mean, Roman Polanski, Nic Roeg, 1730 01:41:22,827 --> 01:41:25,997 they were the guys that I sort of aspired to, they were... 1731 01:41:26,164 --> 01:41:30,376 I don't want the word more "strange," "surreal," "odd." 1732 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,296 Yeah, I think I, too, son' of... 1733 01:41:33,671 --> 01:41:35,924 My guiding lights in terms of the older cinema. 1734 01:41:36,007 --> 01:41:38,927 Nic Roeg has been one of my biggest guiding lights. 1735 01:41:39,010 --> 01:41:40,678 I think I've said before, 1736 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,014 his movie Performance, his first movie, was... 1737 01:41:43,098 --> 01:41:45,725 I've stolen from that movie so many times. 1738 01:41:45,809 --> 01:41:48,520 Yeah. Others... I steal from everybody. 1739 01:41:51,106 --> 01:41:53,691 MARSILII: Now it all starts paying off. 1740 01:41:55,026 --> 01:41:58,363 Up until now, it was possible for Doug and for the audience 1741 01:41:58,404 --> 01:42:00,824 to believe he'd actually saved Claire. 1742 01:42:03,201 --> 01:42:07,831 But now, as moments like this start replaying themselves, 1743 01:42:09,207 --> 01:42:12,502 Donnelly writing her number on the candy wrapper, 1744 01:42:14,254 --> 01:42:18,216 the blood that's going to be found later on will turn out to be Doug's, 1745 01:42:18,258 --> 01:42:21,553 as everything starts to dovetail 1746 01:42:23,179 --> 01:42:25,557 and fold back onto itself plot-wise, 1747 01:42:27,517 --> 01:42:32,063 we start to wonder if he's ever going to be able to change anything at all. 1748 01:42:33,940 --> 01:42:36,276 I'll let you in on a little secret here, 1749 01:42:36,359 --> 01:42:40,697 this answering machine moment... Originally, as scripted, 1750 01:42:42,073 --> 01:42:46,077 Doug was going to lip-synch perfectly Beth's message 1751 01:42:46,161 --> 01:42:47,996 as it was being left. 1752 01:42:49,455 --> 01:42:51,374 I don't know if they ever shot a take that way, 1753 01:42:51,416 --> 01:42:54,335 but ultimately, I think they just felt it wouldn't play. 1754 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,047 SCOTT: I mean, it's funny, obviously, this... 1755 01:42:58,089 --> 01:43:00,091 The location in New Orleans didn't resemble 1756 01:43:00,175 --> 01:43:02,468 what was in the original screenplay, 1757 01:43:02,552 --> 01:43:04,345 which was Long Island, 1758 01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:07,932 and the ferry journey is a much longer journey 1759 01:43:08,016 --> 01:43:11,853 in Long Island than it was here. This is just a very short hop. 1760 01:43:12,020 --> 01:43:15,607 It's a 17-minute hop across the river. 1761 01:43:15,815 --> 01:43:18,276 But the writers came down, and... 1762 01:43:19,235 --> 01:43:20,445 When I was actually... 1763 01:43:20,528 --> 01:43:22,322 A week before I started shooting, and sort of said, 1764 01:43:22,405 --> 01:43:25,450 "Wow. I don't know how this is gonna work." 1765 01:43:26,993 --> 01:43:29,245 But you know... 1766 01:43:29,287 --> 01:43:32,373 It's hard for a writer, 'cause they fall in love with what they've written. 1767 01:43:32,457 --> 01:43:34,876 And they see it. The location is... They see it. 1768 01:43:34,959 --> 01:43:36,169 Then we try to give them something else, 1769 01:43:36,252 --> 01:43:38,963 and you have to adapt to what you find. 1770 01:43:39,005 --> 01:43:40,965 You know... 1771 01:43:41,174 --> 01:43:45,178 So I, obviously, had a big adaptation to do 1772 01:43:45,303 --> 01:43:47,555 to get away from Long Island to New Orleans, 1773 01:43:47,639 --> 01:43:49,098 but New Orleans is so much, 1774 01:43:49,140 --> 01:43:52,352 I felt, the better place for this story and this movie. 1775 01:43:54,145 --> 01:43:57,398 Then on our, you know, our very first ferry, 1776 01:43:57,482 --> 01:44:00,026 when we were scouting, our first trip across the river, 1777 01:44:00,109 --> 01:44:03,071 we got diverted because a tanker came through. 1778 01:44:03,154 --> 01:44:07,200 And that diversion pulled us towards the bridge, which gave me the idea, 1779 01:44:07,283 --> 01:44:09,202 which is now in the movie, 1780 01:44:09,285 --> 01:44:11,955 the ferry gets diverted and goes underneath a bridge, 1781 01:44:11,996 --> 01:44:15,375 which is a good excuse for a much better location for the ferry to blow. 1782 01:44:15,458 --> 01:44:18,836 And that's what also gave me the idea about the guy on the bridge watching, 1783 01:44:18,878 --> 01:44:21,130 that, whether you get it or not in the movie, the guy... 1784 01:44:21,172 --> 01:44:23,007 When he sees the ferry coming towards him, 1785 01:44:23,049 --> 01:44:26,970 and he knows it's gonna blow, he splits, gets on his bike and goes. 1786 01:44:27,011 --> 01:44:31,140 So, all of that all comes about through scouting locations, you know. 1787 01:44:32,809 --> 01:44:36,062 It was actually, you know, Chris Seagers, my production designer, 1788 01:44:37,897 --> 01:44:41,651 and Marshall Vernet, one of my location guys, 1789 01:44:42,235 --> 01:44:45,280 and Richard Klotz, they sent me back these pictures. 1790 01:44:45,363 --> 01:44:48,866 And the pictures, in terms of 1791 01:44:49,033 --> 01:44:52,203 the ferry docks, and the journey that the ferry took... 1792 01:44:54,747 --> 01:44:59,043 Then, you know, it was actually Chris Seagers that said, you know, 1793 01:44:59,544 --> 01:45:01,838 "You know, what happens if these guys were in 1794 01:45:03,172 --> 01:45:06,634 So, it was Chris' idea to say that these sailors were coming in for 1795 01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:09,595 Mardi Gras, for the weekend. 1796 01:45:24,110 --> 01:45:26,863 Once Oerstadt sees his own car back there, 1797 01:45:26,904 --> 01:45:30,908 he realizes that Doug and Claire are not, in fact, dead, 1798 01:45:33,828 --> 01:45:38,416 and the final act of the picture really kicks into gear. 1799 01:45:40,418 --> 01:45:44,839 One of the things that's a staple of bomb movies, 1800 01:45:44,922 --> 01:45:48,176 that Terry and I both desperately wanted to get away from, 1801 01:45:48,259 --> 01:45:53,264 was the cliché of the digital timer that you keep cutting back to, 1802 01:45:53,306 --> 01:45:56,017 to show how many seconds we have left. 1803 01:45:56,100 --> 01:46:00,605 So many polite bombers that put these big, readable timers on their bombs. 1804 01:46:02,065 --> 01:46:05,860 Instead, the countdown, the ticking clock, so to speak, 1805 01:46:07,445 --> 01:46:11,783 is the inevitable repeat of a series of events 1806 01:46:11,824 --> 01:46:14,077 that we saw at the top of the movie. 1807 01:46:15,828 --> 01:46:21,459 The teacher counting the children, the horn going off, the captain talking, 1808 01:46:22,001 --> 01:46:24,420 everything repeating exactly. 1809 01:46:24,462 --> 01:46:29,842 All while Doug and Claire are running around underneath them 1810 01:46:29,926 --> 01:46:32,345 trying to avert a disaster. 1811 01:46:34,472 --> 01:46:37,809 And every time we see one of those events replay itself, 1812 01:46:37,892 --> 01:46:42,271 it's just one more clue that maybe they're not changing anything. 1813 01:46:45,691 --> 01:46:48,694 SCOTT: We used a lot of our extras. On our biggest day, on the ferry 1814 01:46:51,447 --> 01:46:52,657 That sounds very indulgent, 1815 01:46:52,740 --> 01:46:56,119 but when you look at that ferry, and you do aerial shots of the ferry, 1816 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,913 750 people disappear like that. 1817 01:46:58,996 --> 01:47:02,583 So the whole idea was meant to be a full ferry. 1818 01:47:02,750 --> 01:47:06,754 So our biggest days were, I think, 750. 1819 01:47:08,297 --> 01:47:11,008 But it's funny, all these uniforms you see here, 1820 01:47:11,092 --> 01:47:15,763 a lot of the guys came from the naval base in New Orleans, 1821 01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:19,058 but we couldn't use their actual uniforms, we had to wardrobe them. 1822 01:47:19,142 --> 01:47:22,895 But, you know, when we first started shooting, 1823 01:47:23,980 --> 01:47:26,357 right after Katrina, 1824 01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:30,528 originally there were 500,000 people every night who slept in New Orleans, 1825 01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:33,030 after Katrina it went down to 60,000. 1826 01:47:33,364 --> 01:47:38,035 By the time we started shooting it was still 60,000. 1827 01:47:38,077 --> 01:47:41,873 By the time we finished shooting it was 250,000. So that was good. 1828 01:47:41,956 --> 01:47:44,167 The confidence in the city, not because of the film, 1829 01:47:44,208 --> 01:47:46,210 but just people were coming back. 1830 01:47:46,294 --> 01:47:48,171 But there were not a lot of people in New Orleans, 1831 01:47:48,212 --> 01:47:49,547 so we had to ferry a lot of people, 1832 01:47:49,630 --> 01:47:52,717 we had to bus people in from Baton Rouge every day. 1833 01:47:52,967 --> 01:47:56,679 We had huge busloads leaving at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. 1834 01:47:56,721 --> 01:48:00,183 Then all these guys that you see had to be wardrobed. Yeah. 1835 01:48:04,061 --> 01:48:06,147 MARSILII: One of the reasons that we ended up 1836 01:48:06,230 --> 01:48:10,359 choosing a ferry disaster, Terry and I, 1837 01:48:10,985 --> 01:48:14,572 was there were a number of virtues to it cinematically. 1838 01:48:15,740 --> 01:48:18,367 One, it had never been done, to my knowledge. 1839 01:48:18,409 --> 01:48:19,911 I'd never seen something like this. 1840 01:48:19,994 --> 01:48:23,331 Plane crashes have unfortunately been done to death in movies. 1841 01:48:24,499 --> 01:48:27,210 A ferry is a visually interesting place 1842 01:48:27,793 --> 01:48:30,755 to stage a cat-and-mouse suspense sequence. 1843 01:48:30,838 --> 01:48:33,591 There are multiple levels, some indoors, some outdoors, 1844 01:48:33,674 --> 01:48:35,676 lots of innocent people around. 1845 01:48:37,136 --> 01:48:41,140 Also, the deep water makes the evidence so much harder to obtain 1846 01:48:41,766 --> 01:48:44,936 and thus it helps justify the use of a time-window. 1847 01:48:46,729 --> 01:48:48,648 And it's also a contained space. 1848 01:48:48,731 --> 01:48:50,816 Once the boat sets sail, 1849 01:48:51,108 --> 01:48:55,238 there's no way for Doug, Claire or anybody else to escape the bomb. 1850 01:48:55,571 --> 01:49:00,284 Doug has to solve the problem or everybody dies. 1851 01:49:02,203 --> 01:49:04,288 It worked out very well for us I think. 1852 01:49:04,580 --> 01:49:06,832 No passengers allowed, sir. 1853 01:49:10,002 --> 01:49:12,004 SCOTT: In the script this sequence was very different. 1854 01:49:12,088 --> 01:49:16,092 Obviously, the ferry that they had in the script was a Long Island ferry 1855 01:49:18,803 --> 01:49:23,474 And it was very much motivated by action shootout 1856 01:49:23,516 --> 01:49:25,685 and the bad guy, in the original script, 1857 01:49:25,768 --> 01:49:28,813 was carrying pipe-bombs that he kept throwing around. 1858 01:49:28,896 --> 01:49:32,316 So this, I tried to structure it, 1859 01:49:32,358 --> 01:49:36,153 I tried to make Jim Cavieze|'s character very much more real. 1860 01:49:37,780 --> 01:49:44,161 MARSILII: Tony very much wanted Caviezel to come off as a... 1861 01:49:44,245 --> 01:49:47,999 He mentioned Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver 1862 01:49:48,082 --> 01:49:51,502 where this guy's got his guns, he's unstoppable, 1863 01:49:51,544 --> 01:49:58,342 and he just marches through shooting anybody that gets in his way. 1864 01:50:02,638 --> 01:50:05,266 SCOTT: And then the location itself, the ferry itself, 1865 01:50:05,349 --> 01:50:09,770 dictated how the set piece laid out, how Denzel and he faced off, 1866 01:50:09,854 --> 01:50:13,024 and have this monologue with each other at the end. 1867 01:50:13,733 --> 01:50:17,737 But that stuff's hard, 'cause you know you got to tell the story, 1868 01:50:17,820 --> 01:50:22,908 and then you gotta tell the story between the two characters 1869 01:50:23,034 --> 01:50:26,579 that had to drive the Bronco off the ferry and into the water 1870 01:50:26,662 --> 01:50:28,039 and trying to keep those things real 1871 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:31,709 without them becoming sort of old-fashioned action set pieces, 1872 01:50:32,168 --> 01:50:35,212 that's hard. It's a real challenge. So... 1873 01:50:35,296 --> 01:50:38,549 But I think it's successful. I think it works. 1874 01:50:40,384 --> 01:50:42,011 MARSILII: One of the nice things about this, 1875 01:50:42,053 --> 01:50:44,722 as Doug starts to draw Oerstadt out, 1876 01:50:44,764 --> 01:50:47,975 we can see he's got a plan even if it's not clear yet. 1877 01:50:48,059 --> 01:50:52,563 So Doug starts using Oerstadt's own words against him. 1878 01:50:52,647 --> 01:50:56,192 And you can even imply 1879 01:50:57,485 --> 01:51:01,906 that Oerstadt's having a dejé vu moment here that will cost him his life. 1880 01:51:04,909 --> 01:51:07,536 One of the other things I'm kind of proud of here 1881 01:51:07,578 --> 01:51:11,582 is that so often in a hostage situation, 1882 01:51:11,666 --> 01:51:14,293 you know, where you've got a woman who's tied up, 1883 01:51:14,377 --> 01:51:17,254 she doesn't take any part in her own rescue. 1884 01:51:18,464 --> 01:51:21,592 We wanted to give Claire something more active. 1885 01:51:22,093 --> 01:51:23,511 Who are you? 1886 01:51:25,096 --> 01:51:30,893 So Doug depends on her at this moment to save his life, 1887 01:51:32,144 --> 01:51:36,107 even though she has to do something horrible in order to do it. 1888 01:51:39,610 --> 01:51:43,447 SCOTT: You know, and Paul Cameron, this is my second movie with Paul, 1889 01:51:43,489 --> 01:51:49,120 I've done many commercials. And Paul is... 1890 01:51:49,245 --> 01:51:51,414 No, no. The last movie I did with him was Man on Fire. 1891 01:51:51,455 --> 01:51:56,627 So, Paul loves to experiment, try different things, and he is... 1892 01:51:58,295 --> 01:52:01,549 Paul's brilliant in terms of, you know, technology 1893 01:52:01,632 --> 01:52:05,469 and to do something like this, I mean cross-processing, you know, 1894 01:52:05,511 --> 01:52:07,388 and shooting in all the different formats, 1895 01:52:07,471 --> 01:52:08,764 and we were shooting in terms of, 1896 01:52:08,806 --> 01:52:11,142 you know, the digital world and the film world, 1897 01:52:11,183 --> 01:52:13,227 was a really dangerous thing to do, so... 1898 01:52:13,310 --> 01:52:15,312 But with Paul I always have confidence in him. 1899 01:52:15,396 --> 01:52:17,481 He can take me right to an edge. 1900 01:52:17,523 --> 01:52:20,901 It's irreversible. You're left sitting on this knife edge, 1901 01:52:20,985 --> 01:52:24,655 in terms of the final released product, your film, 1902 01:52:24,697 --> 01:52:28,451 and your DVDs, and your digital world, yeah. 1903 01:52:28,868 --> 01:52:29,952 " ' ' 1904 01:52:29,994 --> 01:52:32,329 He always gets it right then, gets it there in a great way. 1905 01:52:32,413 --> 01:52:36,709 'Cause the film is so... I mean, I think it's the most rich and... 1906 01:52:37,001 --> 01:52:39,795 Densely rich and most... What's the word? 1907 01:52:39,837 --> 01:52:44,383 Contrasty, in the best possible way, movie, that I've ever done. 1908 01:52:47,678 --> 01:52:50,890 MARSILII: When I wrote this action beat, 1909 01:52:50,973 --> 01:52:55,978 with the ferry running over the car, 1910 01:52:56,020 --> 01:52:59,523 and causing it to tumble upside down, 1911 01:53:00,024 --> 01:53:02,651 I was working other jobs, 1912 01:53:04,278 --> 01:53:07,823 my screenwriting career had gone fallow, and I really 1913 01:53:08,699 --> 01:53:12,203 could only imagine how they would ever pull this off, 1914 01:53:12,244 --> 01:53:14,955 if I was lucky enough to see it happen. 1915 01:53:16,415 --> 01:53:19,543 And they did. I'm really amazed at how 1916 01:53:20,628 --> 01:53:22,379 this sequence looks. 1917 01:53:23,464 --> 01:53:25,424 SCOTT: This particular sequence here, 1918 01:53:25,508 --> 01:53:28,719 this stuff, we shot at Warner Brothers, underwater. 1919 01:53:30,221 --> 01:53:33,265 And Paula had swum, but she wasn't a great swimmer. 1920 01:53:33,349 --> 01:53:34,892 Denzel was a strong swimmer. 1921 01:53:34,975 --> 01:53:39,230 So, imagine how scary it was being 30 feet down in a tank, 1922 01:53:39,271 --> 01:53:43,025 inside a car which is on a... It's like a rotisserie, 1923 01:53:43,067 --> 01:53:47,947 you know, that's being barrel-rolled along, and you're on a hooker line, 1924 01:53:48,030 --> 01:53:51,075 which is like a tank, air tank, yeah. 1925 01:53:51,158 --> 01:53:54,578 And you gotta take that line out and then swim out, you know. 1926 01:53:54,620 --> 01:53:55,788 And then, when you swim out, 1927 01:53:55,871 --> 01:53:58,749 you gotta get 30 feet out beyond the hull of the ship. 1928 01:53:58,833 --> 01:54:01,252 So, Paula was a real trouper, 'cause she was terrified. 1929 01:54:01,335 --> 01:54:03,963 She had claustrophobia, 'cause she's inside this car. 1930 01:54:04,046 --> 01:54:05,589 The car's underneath the hull of the ship. 1931 01:54:07,049 --> 01:54:10,427 When it's being rotisseried and slamming against 1932 01:54:12,096 --> 01:54:15,766 D was great. So, what you saw there, we had doubles, 1933 01:54:16,016 --> 01:54:18,561 you know, we had stunt doubles doing it, 1934 01:54:19,603 --> 01:54:22,982 but I'd say the majority was Denzel and Paula. 1935 01:54:24,859 --> 01:54:27,111 MARSILII: Let you in on a little secret here, too. 1936 01:54:27,194 --> 01:54:30,114 In the original version of the script, 1937 01:54:30,614 --> 01:54:33,367 Claire was literally blown out of the water. 1938 01:54:33,450 --> 01:54:37,663 She was still struggling to reach the surface when the bomb went off. 1939 01:54:37,788 --> 01:54:41,500 She hit the water face down and was floating, 1940 01:54:42,167 --> 01:54:43,794 just like a doll. 1941 01:54:45,588 --> 01:54:48,215 SCOTT: Then, this end of the movie here, was the... 1942 01:54:48,299 --> 01:54:51,468 Which was always the biggest leap for me, when Denzel 1943 01:54:51,552 --> 01:54:54,972 turns up at the end, getting the audience to buy into the fact 1944 01:54:55,014 --> 01:54:58,809 that Denzel lived because of what we explained earlier in the movie about 1945 01:54:59,310 --> 01:55:01,520 parallel or diverse universes, 1946 01:55:01,896 --> 01:55:03,981 that there's a second Denzel somewhere else 1947 01:55:04,064 --> 01:55:06,108 at the same point in time. 1948 01:55:07,735 --> 01:55:12,615 And this... You know, this was the culmination of the love story. 1949 01:55:12,656 --> 01:55:15,659 So, it's funny, the movie does give you a sentimental jolt. 1950 01:55:15,701 --> 01:55:19,997 And I was surprised, I mean, how people responded in that way, 1951 01:55:20,539 --> 01:55:24,084 which was the best possible response I could have got, because 1952 01:55:24,627 --> 01:55:28,088 it was very hard to pull that off. Well, it's very hard to pull off. 1953 01:55:28,505 --> 01:55:31,675 It's pulled off because of Denzel, because of Paula. 1954 01:55:31,759 --> 01:55:35,554 But it was dangerous whether this end would come off, 1955 01:55:37,222 --> 01:55:41,185 It could have divorced you totally from the emotional content 1956 01:55:44,271 --> 01:55:46,732 MARSILII: Originally, in the opening scenes 1957 01:55:46,815 --> 01:55:48,692 of the movie, after the ferry explodes 1958 01:55:48,734 --> 01:55:51,570 and Doug comes to the dock to investigate, 1959 01:55:52,863 --> 01:55:55,741 we had rain, at least scripted, we had rain. 1960 01:56:00,037 --> 01:56:03,290 İn the scenes afterwards, where Doug's on the boat, 1961 01:56:04,041 --> 01:56:06,543 because we needed that in order to obliterate the evidence. 1962 01:56:06,585 --> 01:56:08,545 But originally, all the scenes at the dock, 1963 01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:11,256 were covered in torrential downpour. 1964 01:56:12,049 --> 01:56:16,053 And at the end of the movie, when Doug comes to get Claire, 1965 01:56:16,178 --> 01:56:18,013 and he's alive again, 1966 01:56:18,889 --> 01:56:22,559 it's drizzling, but it starts to taper off 1967 01:56:25,104 --> 01:56:28,983 That's different from what happened at the beginning of the movie. 1968 01:56:29,441 --> 01:56:32,194 And the last lines of the film, originally... 1969 01:56:33,779 --> 01:56:37,574 ...he has his déjé vu moment, he's looking out of the window, 1970 01:56:38,075 --> 01:56:40,285 and Claire says, "What is it?" 1971 01:56:40,786 --> 01:56:43,622 Doug says, "It was supposed to rain all day." 1972 01:56:44,456 --> 01:56:47,626 And they look outside, and it has stopped raining. 1973 01:56:49,044 --> 01:56:52,923 And the last line of the movie was Claire turning to him and saying, 1974 01:56:52,965 --> 01:56:55,259 "I guess God changed his mind." 1975 01:56:56,635 --> 01:57:00,764 Fast forward to the day that we shot it. 1976 01:57:02,516 --> 01:57:06,562 I wasn't there this particular day, 1977 01:57:06,854 --> 01:57:10,899 but they had several hundred feet of scaffold over the dock 1978 01:57:10,941 --> 01:57:13,318 in order to provide rain. 1979 01:57:13,986 --> 01:57:16,030 Everything was good to go. 1980 01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:19,450 And the sun was so brilliantly bright out, 1981 01:57:19,491 --> 01:57:22,786 it was like 98 degrees, not a cloud in the sky. 1982 01:57:23,620 --> 01:57:26,081 They couldn't even fake the rain. 1983 01:57:27,207 --> 01:57:28,292 0on9-. 1984 01:57:32,588 --> 01:57:34,465 To see the ferry explode, 1985 01:57:34,548 --> 01:57:36,258 Chad took me aside and very... 1986 01:57:36,300 --> 01:57:41,388 Chad Oman very delicately informed me that 1987 01:57:42,056 --> 01:57:45,059 we had to change the ending just a little bit, 1988 01:57:49,396 --> 01:57:54,485 And I stood there smiling and nodding as he explained it all to me, 1989 01:57:54,568 --> 01:57:57,029 and he said, "Don't freak out," 1990 01:57:58,739 --> 01:58:03,327 and finally I pointed at my own face, I said, "Look at me. I'm fine, I'm okay." 1991 01:58:03,786 --> 01:58:06,163 He said, "Yeah?" I said, "Yeah." 1992 01:58:06,455 --> 01:58:07,998 What can I say? 1993 01:58:08,290 --> 01:58:10,375 If God wanted the movie to end that way, 1994 01:58:10,459 --> 01:58:13,462 he'd have helped us out with some cloud cover. 1995 01:58:16,507 --> 01:58:17,716 SCOTT: And then Macy Gray, we had... 1996 01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,426 You remember Macy? She was in Domino. 1997 01:58:19,551 --> 01:58:21,804 And she does the final song in the movie now. 1998 01:58:21,929 --> 01:58:24,556 And Macy's great, because, you know, 1999 01:58:25,015 --> 01:58:28,227 the danger with the song at the end of the movie, is it becomes, 2000 01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:30,938 you know, a little too... What's the word? 2001 01:58:31,021 --> 01:58:34,024 Is mainstream, or a little too on the nose, you know. 2002 01:58:34,108 --> 01:58:36,610 But Macy's voice is so great, 2003 01:58:36,693 --> 01:58:40,989 and she's got such mystery, and she embodied so much about... 2004 01:58:41,073 --> 01:58:45,369 Her voice embodied so much of what I wanted the movie to feel like. 2005 01:58:45,410 --> 01:58:48,288 People always ask me, you know, in terms of the press, 2006 01:58:48,372 --> 01:58:49,915 "So, tell us about your déjé vu" 2007 01:58:49,998 --> 01:58:53,460 I say, 'cause I'm 62, dejé vu gets difficult to differentiate between 2008 01:58:53,544 --> 01:58:56,630 memory loss, or did it actually... 2009 01:58:56,713 --> 01:58:59,716 Have I been there, have I not really been there? 2010 01:58:59,883 --> 01:59:03,178 And, it was funny, the title always... I was surprised, actually, 2011 01:59:03,220 --> 01:59:07,391 because I thought Déja Vu sounds a little too artsy for an American public, 2012 01:59:07,599 --> 01:59:08,934 you know, for a Jerry movie, 2013 01:59:09,017 --> 01:59:11,311 and, like, a little too artsy, but... 2014 01:59:11,436 --> 01:59:14,773 And they liked the fact that the public were a little... 2015 01:59:14,857 --> 01:59:17,568 It's a little mysterious, a little confusing, 2016 01:59:17,651 --> 01:59:20,070 because that's the nature of the screenplay that they had. 2017 01:59:20,154 --> 01:59:22,906 So, they built into it those strengths, doing it. 2018 01:59:22,990 --> 01:59:26,660 But you know, the first thing I do when you get a title like oegavu... 2019 01:59:26,743 --> 01:59:28,871 So I said, I mean, "What does déja vu mean to you?" 2020 01:59:28,912 --> 01:59:30,747 And everybody's got a different interpretation. 2021 01:59:30,789 --> 01:59:33,876 So, I went to the Oxford English Dictionary 2022 01:59:33,917 --> 01:59:35,252 and looked in there, and they said, 2023 01:59:35,294 --> 01:59:38,714 "It's an uncomfortable feeling about a place you've been before, 2024 01:59:38,755 --> 01:59:40,591 "a person you've been with before." 2025 01:59:40,632 --> 01:59:42,759 So, it's funny, 'cause that word, "uncomfortable," 2026 01:59:42,801 --> 01:59:45,095 then became my key to my day every day. 2027 01:59:45,137 --> 01:59:47,764 Always... Whether it's Denzel's performance, or... 2028 01:59:47,806 --> 01:59:51,435 The movie gave it this odd and uncomfortable, odd feeling. 2029 01:59:51,476 --> 01:59:54,104 And so, that was sort of a driving force, 2030 01:59:54,188 --> 01:59:56,648 one of my driving forces through... 2031 01:59:56,732 --> 01:59:58,901 You know, through the movie. 2032 01:59:59,610 --> 02:00:02,112 Okay, so, that was my journey. 2033 02:00:02,654 --> 02:00:06,158 That was my journey into a world which frightened me. 2034 02:00:06,533 --> 02:00:10,954 That was my journey into a world that I got to educate myself, 2035 02:00:12,915 --> 02:00:16,043 Educate and entertain, and I hope this movie did it for you. 2036 02:00:19,963 --> 02:00:23,592 İn honor of New Orleans, and I wanna see the city back on its feet. 2037 02:00:23,634 --> 02:00:26,094 And it's amazing that the public spirit there... 2038 02:00:26,136 --> 02:00:30,641 How much, how strong it was after Katrina. 2039 02:00:31,350 --> 02:00:34,978 And I want them to get it back to where they were before Katrina. 2040 02:00:35,812 --> 02:00:37,147 Thank you. 2041 02:00:37,481 --> 02:00:39,399 BRUCKHEIMER: Well, we really appreciate you joining us 2042 02:00:39,483 --> 02:00:41,485 for this commentary in Déjé Vu. 2043 02:00:41,526 --> 02:00:43,403 İt was a very complicated movie, a very interesting movie. 2044 02:00:43,487 --> 02:00:45,781 It's a movie you have to see more than once, there are a lot of clues 2045 02:00:45,822 --> 02:00:47,282 that you miss the first time, 2046 02:00:47,324 --> 02:00:50,494 and I know you'll appreciate them when you see them again. 2047 02:00:50,661 --> 02:00:53,038 (COMING BACK TO YOU PLAYING) 2048 02:01:44,214 --> 02:01:47,384 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING)