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We are sisters, Moby,

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and nothing will ever get
in the way of that.

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We were only saying
it's time Dave came here.

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Has to be an easier way of getting
money, eh? Rob a bank.

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Mr Mounsey. Thank you.

6
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You don't thank me for anything
until I've found your son.

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Unless we pay him the £14/8s rent
arrears by Saturday, we're out.

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I suppose we could obtain the money
from a third party.

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Come in when the lights flash.

10
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Ian's killed a man!

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They say they've seen somebody
killed, sir.

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You stick by Dave and not Myra.

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You're no daughter of mine.

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TELEPHONE RINGS

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Brady's admitted killing the lad.
We're not letting him go anywhere.

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What about Smith? The toerag looks
as though he's telling the truth,

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so we'll release him for now.

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And the girlfriend?

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There's no evidence of direct
involvement in the murder,

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so we'll let her go.

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SOBBING

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(WOMAN WEEPS)

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Edward Evans's parents.

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Been identifying the body.

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Thank you.

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Can you go?

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So they believe you?

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Dunno.

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They've let Myra go too, thank God.
What?

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So she can't have been involved.

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Why did you lie to me, Dave?
I didn't lie!

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She's the one that's lying!

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She must have fibbed her way
out of it.

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Let's just get out of here.

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WOMAN: I just want to know
what's going on.

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I'm fed up of this lot,
now get out of here!

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We haven't got time to mess around
with you.

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Sir. We found the wallet
inside the car.

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This is Brady's car?
No, Hindley's. Brady doesn't drive.

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Found three sheets of paper in here.
We got them copied.

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What is this?
A kind of disposal plan for a body.

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OK. Explain it to me.

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We think hat is hatchet.

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Rec?
Reconnaissance?

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Check periodically unmoved.

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Check what's unmoved?
Body? Bodies?

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Tick WHPB.

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No. God knows.

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Is this where it happened?
Aye. Hard to believe, isn't it?

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Must have spent ages cleaning up
this place.

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So where was the body found?
Over by the window.

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Foetal position,
body wrapped in polythene.

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Bit of a photographer, is he, then,
Brady?

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Fond of moors by the looks of it.

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Isn't that her?
Aye, that's her.

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Come to see her granny, I expect.
Had to boot her out of here,
obviously.

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Are you sure you've done the right
thing letting her go?

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That was Benfield's decision.
What do you think, sir?

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I think the plan was to get rid of
the body using the car.

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Look. "Car. Remove all moveable
objects. Clean cover floor

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and seat fresh Poly at night."

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This is her car!

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He doesn't even drive, you said.

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Who else is going to drive the car,
for Christ sakes?

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How can she possibly
not be involved?

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DOG BARKS

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(TO DOG) Stop it!

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'Ey, come here!

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Shut up!

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Mrs Smith?
Yes...

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DCI Mounsey, Ashton Police.
I need to speak to your husband.

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Dave Smith?
What?

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Go on, get in there.

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You told DCS Benfield
Brady claimed he killed others.

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Yeah, well, he wasn't listening,
was he? Well, I am!

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Did he say who he killed?

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Or when or where?
No.

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And you didn't ask?
Why should I?

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Even when he told you he was going
to use guns for this bank job?

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What bank job?
Dave, what's this?

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Ian had this stupid idea about
robbing a bank. What?

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Bloody idiot! I didn't know if
he was serious or not, did I?

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Even when we got rid of stuff from
the suitcases, I didn't know.

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What stuff? Stuff they thought would
be incriminating.

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What exactly was in these suitcases?

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'Ey?! Answer me!

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There was some books of mine.
The rest was theirs.

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I just helped them put the cases in
the car, then they drove off. Where?

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I don't know.
He must have said something. Where?

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Well, they might have said something
about left luggage.

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"They"? So Myra was in on this too,
yeah?

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Yeah. Ian said she was gonna drive
the getaway car.

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Jesus Christ, Dave,
what else haven't you told me?

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You're just digging a big hole
for yourself.

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You think you're clever,
but you're not.

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We've heard Brady's version,
and we've heard what Dave says.

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I've already told you.
I've got nothing to say.

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My version of events of that evening

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are exactly the same as Ian's
version of events.

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We found a piece of paper in Myra's
car with the initials WH on it.

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I think that stands for Woodhead,
and that's here.

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Don't know. Well, these are
the nearest moors to Hattersley.

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They took us to different places.

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So should you and me go for a walk
here?

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You don't really think there are
bodies up here?

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I'm trying not to think anything,
love.

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But...if there are, I mean...

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they can't be anything to do with
Myra.

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You said Brady made some remark
about you having stood on the grave
of one of his victims.

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Ian and Myra drove us up to the
moors.

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Me and Ian went for a walk and there
was a reservoir below us.

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'He wanted me to stand
in a particular place.'

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Here!

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Do you think this is the spot?

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Is this the spot?

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I don't know.

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Thank you.

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I believe that with David Smith
you discussed killing people

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and burying them on the moors.
It was all part of the fiction,

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to impress him.

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Smith says you said that Evans'
murder was the messiest yet.

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Why say that if there were no
others?

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That was to do with the situation
we were in.

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I've got nothing to say. My version
of events of that evening

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is exactly the same as Ian's.

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But it's not your version, is it,
it's Ian's!

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You're just using his words.

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Is it Brady says, Myra does?

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How many more times
do I need to tell you?

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There was an accident.

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My version of events is exactly
the same as Ian's.

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Tell me about this fiction
to impress Smith.

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Ask Smith.
No, I'm asking you.

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I told you... Ask Smith.

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I've done nothing.

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As far as I know, Ian's done
nothing.

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Dave Smith's a bloody little liar.

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Tell us exactly what went on
that night!

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There was an accident.
That's all I'm saying.

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Shall we call it murder?

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Why did you take THAT photograph?

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Well, I er...

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..must have been attracted
by the composition.

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Why is Myra looking at the ground?

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You'd have to ask her that.

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I'm asking the photographer.
Why is she looking at the ground?

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Was there something special about
that piece of ground?

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Is it cos it's a grave?

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Is this you standing on a grave?

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Is this her standing on a grave?

151
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Is this your personal graveyard?

152
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Pictures.
Just pictures?

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And that place, that grave,
that was Woodhead, wasn't it?

154
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In that general area, aye.

155
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But again, it was a fiction.

156
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I've got police officers from three
forces up there right now

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digging up your fiction.

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Well, that is a monumental exercise
in futility, my friend.

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OFFICER: Just keep going.
You'll keep yourself warmer.

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Make sure you push the stick really
deep.

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Can't you tell us
what's happening up here?

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Well, we've got members of the
public helping with the search.

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They've come from far and wide.

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If we find anything with the sticks
and they smell like human remains...

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Thank you.

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Don't miss anywhere.

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The search of moorland adjacent
to the A628 Woodhead Pass

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has been going on
for over two days now.

169
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But the police have still found
no evidence

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00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,960
that any bodies have been buried
there.

171
00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,960
There's been no official
confirmation from the police...

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I'm sorry, Mrs Kilbride. There's
still nothing.

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I see.

174
00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,960
Mr Mounsey! Over here!

175
00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,960
What have you got, lad?
Let's have a look.

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We might have something here, sir.

177
00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,960
No, it's just a dead sheep.

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00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,960
All right, keep at it, lads.

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I'm going to mention some names
to you.

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Names of children.

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I just want you to tell me
if you've heard of them.

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Lesley Ann Downey.

183
00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,960
Never heard of her.

184
00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,960
Keith Bennett.

185
00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,320
John Kilbride.

186
00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,960
Never heard of him.

187
00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,640
All right, then. Have you heard of
Pauline Reade?

188
00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,960
Is that funny, Myra?

189
00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,000
I knew Pauline Reade.
I grew up with her.

190
00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,160
I liked her.

191
00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,960
Lesley Ann Downey.

192
00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,960
Have you heard of Lesley Ann Downey?

193
00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,960
It has been pretty public.

194
00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,800
Papers, television, rewards.

195
00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,320
Nobody at work ever mention
Lesley Ann Downey?

196
00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,960
And John Kilbride.
You've never heard of him?

197
00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,960
I don't know him. I have never heard
of him.

198
00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,960
Have you ever been to Ashton market?

199
00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,000
No, I have never been to Ashton
market. Never? Never.

200
00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,320
Never been to Ashton market.

201
00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,960
Where do you shop, then?

202
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,960
I shop at Adsega's sometimes.

203
00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,960
I go into the city centre.
Where do YOU shop?

204
00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:15,000
The John Kilbride I'm talking about
went missing from Ashton market
23rd of November 1963.

205
00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,960
And I'm supposed to have murdered him
and buried him on the moors?

206
00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,960
I believe so, yes.

207
00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,960
And I suppose I did the same...

208
00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,160
to the other names in this book,
yeah?

209
00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,960
Joan Crawford.

210
00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,960
Robert Urquhart.

211
00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,960
Alec Guinness.

212
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,960
Deary me. I mean...

213
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,960
Alec will be sorry to hear of the
premature end of his acting career.

214
00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,960
Do you have children?

215
00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,960
Eh?

216
00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,960
Two.

217
00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,960
Hm...

218
00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,960
Well, I can understand why this is...
an emotional subject for you.

219
00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960
We'll not get a cough out of him.

220
00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,960
Come on, lads. I know you're tired
but you're doing a grand job.

221
00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,160
You see, the ground she's on here is
quite flat and stony.

222
00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,960
I've been all over, I can't find
any ground like that round here.

223
00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,960
You think we're looking in the wrong
place, don't you?

224
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,960
I don't know. If there were more
background in the photo,

225
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something to give us
a reference point...

226
00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,800
So if WH isn't Woodhead,
what else could it stand for?

227
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,960
Wuthering bloody Heights
for all I know.

228
00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,960
Prescott's not going to let this
go on for much longer.

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If we don't find the bodies,
they'll get away with this.

230
00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,320
Sir. Message from Jock Carr.

231
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,960
The suitcases that Smith told us
about, he's found them.

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Good lad.

233
00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,640
Right, let's have a look, then,
shall we?

234
00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,960
Have you got a tape recorder in the
station, sir?

235
00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,960
Jock. Go and ask the sergeant, will
you? Find a tape recorder.

236
00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,960
Sir...

237
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Isn't that Lesley Ann Downey?

238
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Looks like her.

239
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Oh, fucking hell fire.

240
00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,960
We need to talk to Smith, sir.

241
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Jock.

242
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# LITTLE DRUMMER BOY

243
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# I am a poor boy too

244
00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320
# Pa ra pa pa pum

245
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,960
# I have no gifts to bring,
pa ra pa pa pum

246
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You're right in it now, Smith.

247
00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:50,960
# That's fit to give our king,
pa ra pa pa pum

248
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# Ra pa pa pum

249
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,800
# Ra pa pa pum...

250
00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,960
Come on.

251
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960
Hey. You better have
some bloody good answers.

252
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960
# Mary nodded,
pa ra pa pa pum

253
00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,960
What's this about?

254
00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,960
(STOPS TAPE)

255
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,000
Do you recognise any of this lot?

256
00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,160
The notebook's mine.
I don't know about the rest.

257
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,160
You lying little bastard!

258
00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,960
What? What am I supposed to have
done?

259
00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,640
You know what's on that tape,
don't you?

260
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,000
You know what comes before that
song!

261
00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,160
No.
Yes, you do!

262
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,960
You were there when it was made!
I wasn't!

263
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,960
A little girl, being asked to do
unspeakable things for a man
by a woman,

264
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960
crying for her mam,
begging for mercy.

265
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,960
Only, you didn't show any mercy,
did you?

266
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960
You helped Hindley and Brady
torture and kill her.

267
00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,960
Like you helped kill Edward Evans!
No! So, let's jog your memory.

268
00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:03,960
Look at that. Who's that?
Is that Lesley Ann Downey
before you got hold of her?

269
00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,320
Isn't she sweet? Innocent?
Isn't she trusting?

270
00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,480
Now look what was done to her in
the bedroom of No.16.

271
00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,960
Look at her! You were there,
weren't you? You were watching!

272
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,960
No, I wasn't!

273
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,960
So what do you think of Myra now,
then?

274
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,960
It might not be Myra's voice on the
tape, it might be some other woman.

275
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,960
It's Myra.

276
00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,960
Do you think Dave's told you
everything about his relationship
with Ian and Myra?

277
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,960
Yeah.

278
00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,960
He didn't tell you about
the armed robbery.

279
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,480
So what else don't you know?

280
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,960
What else could there be to know?

281
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,960
What about his sexual inclinations?

282
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960
What's that got to do with anything?

283
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,960
Brady lent him dirty books.

284
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,960
Lots of people read books like that.
Doesn't mean -

285
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,160
And lots of people interfere with
children.

286
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,960
And some of them even murder 'em.

287
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,960
You're not saying Dave's done that?

288
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,960
I don't know. Do you think he could?

289
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,960
I'm his wife, for God's sake!

290
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,960
I live with him! I sleep with him!

291
00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,960
How can you ask me that?

292
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,320
You live with him.
You sleep with him.

293
00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,960
So who else would be in a better
position to know the truth?

294
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,320
I don't know the truth, about Dave,
about my sister...

295
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,160
I don't know the truth about bloody
anything any more!

296
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,960
"Notes taken from books
I have enjoyed...

297
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:29,800
He said that what she refused him
he was going to take by force,

298
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,800
so let the girl be stripped naked."

299
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,960
So, the idea of raping young girls
gives you a kick, does it?

300
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,800
No? "Rape is not a crime.
It is a state of mind.

301
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,640
Murder is a hobby
and a supreme pleasure."

302
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,960
I just copied that to impress him!
No, no. Come on, lad.

303
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,800
You enjoyed killing Edward Evans,
didn't you?

304
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320
And Lesley Ann Downey.

305
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,480
John Kilbride. Pauline Reade.

306
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,160
Pauline Reade?

307
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,960
You think she's part of this?

308
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,960
I know she is.

309
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,480
I knew Pauline, I grew up with her!
You think I killed her?

310
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,000
That's exactly what Myra says.

311
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,960
And she's lying, And Brady's lying,
and I think you're lying too.

312
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,960
I haven't killed anyone! I haven't!

313
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960
But you haven't told us everything,
have you?

314
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,640
Have you? Shall we listen to that
tape, shall we,

315
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,960
to that girl begging for mercy?
No!

316
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,960
I'll play it to you again and again
till you tell me the truth.

317
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960
What haven't you told us?

318
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,960
Edward Evans.
What about him?

319
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960
Maureen and me are in the shit
with money.

320
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,960
The council are threatening
to evict us.

321
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,960
I told Ian.

322
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,320
He said he'd go down Manchester,
find a businessman,

323
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,960
bring him back and we'd rob him.

324
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,800
That's why Myra came round for me
that night.

325
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,960
I thought we were just going
to frighten the bloke

326
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,960
so he'd hand over his wallet.

327
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960
But I walked in and...

328
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,960
there was Ian with the axe.

329
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,960
Why didn't you tell us this before?
I knew what you'd think!

330
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,960
You'd think what I'm trying not to -

331
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,960
that Evans would still be alive now
if me and Ian hadn't made that plan!

332
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,960
But I promise you, I haven't hurt
any children.

333
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,640
At least tell me you believe that!

334
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,160
I do actually, lad.

335
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,960
Good lad. Have another fag.

336
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,960
There may have been a plan for
a robbery, but he's no murderer.

337
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,960
MAUREEN: Can I wait for him?
Go on, then. Get yourself home.

338
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,960
Sir. 13-year-old girl from
Hattersley's come forward
with new information.

339
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,480
She says Brady and Hindley
befriended her, took her out for
some drives on the moors.

340
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,960
Does she know which moors?
Yes, she's very clear.

341
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,480
Wessenden Head, Saddleworth. WH!
We were in the wrong place.

342
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960
Move the troops there tomorrow.
I'll call Prescott.

343
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,640
Oi, hang on!

344
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,960
They're not all Lancashire troops.
Some are Manchester's.

345
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,960
You're not saying you don't want us
to carry on searching, sir?

346
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,960
No, I'm not saying that. Just be
aware.

347
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,960
I can't fund an operation like this
indefinitely,

348
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,960
and Manchester won't either.

349
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,960
Thank you, sir.

350
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,480
Come on, lads.
Bus isn't going to wait.

351
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,960
Sir, sir. Don't go without us.
I need to splash my boots.

352
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,960
It's that cold
and he hasn't brought any gloves!

353
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,000
Is he going to bring any tomorrow?

354
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,960
Thank you, boys. Thank you.

355
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,960
Another good day's work, lads.

356
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,960
Thank you very much.

357
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,480
Better luck tomorrow, eh, sir?

358
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,960
If there is a tomorrow.
Sir?

359
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,960
I don't think Prescott's going to
let this go on any longer.

360
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960
What, you think this really is it?

361
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Sir! Sir, up here!
What?

362
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,160
Something bony sticking out of
the ground.

363
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960
Yeah, just another dead sheep, lad.

364
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,480
I don't think so, sir.

365
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,960
Come on, then.

366
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,960
REPORTER: Is it true there's a body,
Mr Benfield?

367
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,960
Mr Talbot! Mr Talbot,
can you give us any details?

368
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,960
All right, Joe?
Yeah.

369
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,960
Manchester's here...
now there's glory to be had.

370
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,960
Do we know whose body it is yet?

371
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,960
All I know is, it's not John
Kilbride. A little girl.

372
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Are you ready, Dougie?
When you are, Arthur.

373
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,960
REPORTER: Is it male or female?
Come on, lads, give us a break.

374
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,480
Mr Mounsey, are there any more?
Get out of our way!

375
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,960
Let us through! Get back!

376
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,960
How many are there, Mr Talbot?
Can you give us any detail?

377
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,960
Is it a boy or a girl?
Are there any more?

378
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960
We'll make a statement tomorrow.

379
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,000
Good work. Good work, excellent.

380
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960
Yeah, the same to you.
Thank you very much.

381
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Sir.

382
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960
That was Professor Poulson,
Uppermill Mortuary.

383
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Mother's identified the body.
It's Lesley Ann.

384
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960
Congratulations, everyone.
What next?

385
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,960
Well, we charge Brady and Hindley
with the murder of Lesley Ann
Downey.

386
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,960
Then it's doubles on me
over at the Queen's.

387
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,960
What about the others?

388
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,480
John Kilbride, Keith Bennett,
Pauline Reade?

389
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,960
They're irrelevant now.

390
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
Sir?
WHAT?!

391
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,960
I've done another print from
the original negative.

392
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960
I've brought up a lot more of
the background, and look...

393
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800
I swear that is Hollin Brown Knoll
in the background.

394
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Right, Mash, are you saying if we
walk around those rocks

395
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,960
till we find the view that matches
this one...

396
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,960
We should find one of the graves.

397
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960
Where did you get the negative from,
Mike?

398
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,960
It was in the suitcases.

399
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,960
But all that stuff got taken away
by Manchester.

400
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,960
I know. I went down there and nicked
it off them.

401
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960
You bad lad!

402
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,960
Watch your step, lad.
Watch your step.

403
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Sir! I think it's here!

404
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,960
Mash?
Yeah.

405
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,960
Right, here we go again.

406
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Urgh!

407
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,960
(GASPS)

408
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960
Forensics, please, Pat.
Yes, sir.

409
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,320
I'll get the camera.

410
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,960
EXCITED VOICES

411
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,960
Boys, go on. In there.
No! Go! Please, do as you're told.

412
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,960
Lads, get out. You too.
Mum, I want to stay.

413
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Danny...
I want to stay!

414
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,960
Let him stay.

415
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Let him.

416
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Yes, that's John's.

417
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960
I'm so sorry.

418
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,960
Sorry to disturb.

419
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,960
Some sad news. Your dog.

420
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,960
We needed to establish her age

421
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,960
in order to be sure that the photo
of you crouching over John
Kilbride's grave

422
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960
was taken after his disappearance.

423
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,480
So we asked the vet to perform
a dental X-ray.

424
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,960
I'm sorry to say she never came
round from the anaesthetic.

425
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,960
You murdering fucking bastards!

426
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Yes, well, I'm a dog lover myself,
so I can appreciate the distress.

427
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960
Sorry to interrupt, sir.

428
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Well, I'm sorry about your dog,
but we must press on.

429
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,000
It was a funny time of the night
to be doing house calls.

430
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480
DOOR OPENS

431
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Where's Maureen?
In the bedroom.

432
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640
HUBBUB

433
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480
WOMAN: Hang him!

434
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,960
ANGRY PROTESTS

435
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,960
Come on now, Mo.

436
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960
You want stringing up an' all,
you bitch!

437
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,960
They'll put you away!

438
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,960
Stand there.

439
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,960
Please repeat after me.

440
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640
I swear by Almighty God...

441
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,800
(REPEATS)

442
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,960
..that the evidence I shall give...

443
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,960
(REPEATS)

444
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,960
..shall be the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth.

445
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,960
(REPEATS)

446
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,960
You've already admitted that
you and your husband were in trouble
with the rent.

447
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,960
What's that got to do with it?

448
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,960
You were desperate for money.

449
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960
Well, yes.

450
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,960
You were aware your husband had
sought Brady's help over the rent.

451
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960
I know he'd shown Ian the letter.

452
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,960
You were not aware of any further
conspiracy between them? No.

453
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Are you not in your husband's
confidence?

454
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960
I believed what he told me.

455
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,960
But he did not always tell you
the truth.

456
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,960
Nevertheless, you are married and
feel you must stand by him.

457
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,960
No!
Are you all right, Mrs Smith?

458
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,160
I'm sorry.

459
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,960
I'm aware of the advanced state
of your pregnancy.

460
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Do you feel able to carry on?

461
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,480
I've got to, haven't I?

462
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,960
You've told the court that your
sister was a regular visitor
to Ashton market.

463
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Yes, I have.

464
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Are you quite sure about that?

465
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,960
There are many nearer places
to shop.

466
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,960
But she liked to go to Ashton.

467
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Mrs Smith, you know it's believed
John Kilbride was abducted
from Ashton market?

468
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,960
Yes.

469
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,960
And so to imply Myra regularly went
there when she didn't

470
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960
might be to dangerously mislead
the jury.

471
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Well, why would I want to do that?

472
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Because you have sided with your
husband against your sister.

473
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960
No. All I want to do
is tell the truth!

474
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,640
Did you go shopping frequently
with Myra, Mrs Hindley? Yes.

475
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,320
To your knowledge, did she ever go
to Ashton market?

476
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,960
No.

477
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960
(DECISIVE) No.

478
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Can you think of any reason
why she should go there? No.

479
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,960
We have markets closer to home
if we need them.

480
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Thank you, Mrs Hindley.

481
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,960
Here come the Smiths.
Maureen! Mr Smith!

482
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,960
'This is your notebook?'
'Yes.'

483
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960
It contains numerous passages
taken from books.

484
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,960
From books Brady gave me, yes.

485
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,480
There are passages
justifying rape and murder.

486
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Do you believe rape and murder
could be justifiable? No.

487
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,000
There are passages dealing with
sexual perversion of various kinds.

488
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,320
Yes.

489
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Passages about a girl being flogged
and that kind of thing.

490
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Did you take pleasure in that?

491
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,960
I was just trying to understand
what the author was getting at.

492
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,960
Ah...

493
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,960
Did you tell Ian Brady
you could make money
by selling pornographic photographs?

494
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,960
No, I didn't!
On Boxing Day 1964,

495
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,960
you brought a girl to the house of
Brady and Hindley, did you not? No!

496
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,480
That girl was Lesley Ann Downey.
Where have you got this from?

497
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960
And Brady told you the girl
you had brought was too young.

498
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,480
I never took her there!

499
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,800
You nevertheless stayed downstairs

500
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,960
while photographs were taken of
her upstairs,
and later you took her away.

501
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,960
This is all lies!

502
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
And that was the last
Brady and Hindley saw of her. No!

503
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,640
I put it to you that you murdered
Lesley Ann Downey. No!

504
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,960
I put it to you that far from
merely watching,

505
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,960
you helped Brady kill Edward Evans.
I did not!

506
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,640
The truth is that
when you saw violence,

507
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,320
you had to join in. I thought
I'd come here as a witness.

508
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,480
I thought it was them on trial,
not me.

509
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,960
No more questions, my Lord.

510
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,960
Has your Lordship got any questions?

511
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,960
No.

512
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960
You are released, Mr Smith.

513
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Court is adjourned until
ten o'clock tomorrow morning.

514
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,640
CLERK: All rise.

515
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,800
Mrs West...

516
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,960
It's not true what they're saying
about me. Let's just go.

517
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,960
I had nothing to do with Lesley Ann.

518
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Why should I believe YOU?
Cos it's the truth.

519
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Let's just go!
You're a liar!

520
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,960
David. Manchester Evening News.

521
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,000
How well did you know Brady, David?
Can you tell us?

522
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960
BARRAGE OF QUESTIONS
Piss off. Piss off!

523
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,960
She's pregnant.
Can you give us anything at all?

524
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,640
Here comes the third Moors murderer!
Shut your face!

525
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960
You're the third Moors murderer!

526
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960
They're all from the same family!

527
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,960
I think it's this way.
No, it's this way.

528
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,960
KNOCK ON DOOR

529
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,960
Where's your husband? Dave!
I want to speak to him.

530
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640
You ARE a liar! You were there!
Where?

531
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640
At the torture of my Lesley!

532
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,960
Get off him! Get off him!

533
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,960
You knew what he were doing! There
was nothing to know, for God's sake!

534
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960
For God's sake, I'm pregnant!

535
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,320
If I had your blood running through
my veins, I'd slit my wrists!

536
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480
(SCREAMS)

537
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,320
They killed me as well
when they killed our Lesley!

538
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,960
Come on!
You deserve the same, both of you!

539
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,960
(SOBS)
Come on, love.

540
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Why did you have to talk to 'em?

541
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,800
To make 'em understand that
what Myra and Ian did
had nothing to do with me.

542
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Why should people believe that?
What?

543
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,960
Edward Evans wouldn't have died,
would he, Dave,

544
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,960
if you'd not let Ian draw you in.

545
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,960
I didn't know they'd kill him!

546
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,320
But he must have seen something
in you, mustn't he, eh,

547
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960
to make him think you could become
part of it? Of what?

548
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,800
Whatever it was, him and Myra.
Shut up!

549
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,800
It's you that's brought this on us,
Dave. Shut up, you bitch!

550
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,960
I'm sorry, Maureen.

551
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Will it be all right now?
Now you've done that?

552
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,960
Maureen, I'm so sorry!

553
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,960
PROTESTS

554
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,960
Would you tell us what your
feelings were for Ian Brady

555
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,960
before you you moved to Hattersley?

556
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,960
I loved him.

557
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960
I still love him.

558
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Did you ever get wind of anything
odd happening between Ian and David?

559
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960
I suppose I sometimes did wonder
what was going on.

560
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,960
You've sat in this court, you've
heard of several conspiracies
between them.

561
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,960
To photograph young girls,
to rob a bank...

562
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960
I don't believe her.
..to lure a homosexual

563
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,960
to Wardle Brook Avenue
with the intention of robbing him,

564
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,960
a conspiracy which ended in the
death of Edward Evans.

565
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Did you have any idea
of any of these plans?

566
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,800
I had no idea at all.

567
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,960
Were you in any way involved
in the death of John Kilbride?

568
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960
I was not.

569
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Were you in any way involved in
the death of Lesley Ann Downey?

570
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,960
I was not.

571
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Were you in any way involved
in the death of Edward Evans?

572
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
No.

573
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,960
No more questions, my Lord.

574
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160
You may step down, Miss Hindley.

575
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,960
This court is adjourned.
We will reconvene after lunch.

576
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,960
RADIO NEWS

577
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,960
'Ian Brady and Myra Hindley
have been found guilty of murder.

578
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Ian Brady has been convicted of the
murders of John Kilbride, Lesley Ann
Downey and Edward Evans.

579
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,320
Myra Hindley has been convicted of
the murders of Lesley Ann Downey
and Edward Evans.

580
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,960
She was found not guilty of
the murder of John Kilbride,

581
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,960
but was found guilty of being
an accessory.

582
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,960
The jury retired earlier today

583
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,800
and took just 2 hours 23 minutes
to reach their verdicts.

584
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,960
The defendants remained impassive
as they were read out

585
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,960
and equally impassive as the Judge,
Justice Fenton Atkinson,

586
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,960
sentenced the couple.'

587
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:39,800
Ian Brady, these were three
calculated, cruel, cold-blooded
murders.

588
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,960
In your case, I pass the only
sentence which the law now allows,

589
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,160
which is three concurrent sentences
of life imprisonment.

590
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Hang him!
The bastard!

591
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Pervert!
Quiet!

592
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Quiet in court!

593
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,960
Quiet in court!

594
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,960
SILENCE

595
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Put him down.

596
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,960
AGGRESSIVE MUTTERING

597
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
MAN: Take 'em both!

598
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Quiet in court!

599
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960
In your case, Hindley,

600
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,960
you have been found guilty of two
equally horrible murders.

601
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
And in the third,
as an accessory after the fact.

602
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960
On the two murders,

603
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,960
the sentence is two concurrent
sentences of life imprisonment.

604
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,960
DAVE: It's been a waste
of fucking time.

605
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
If you two hadn't gone to court,

606
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Brady would have got away with all
those murders except Edward Evans.

607
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,960
He'd have been out in ten years
and Myra would have walked free.

608
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,160
That's supposed to make us
feel better, is it?

609
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,320
I can see that it's been hard.

610
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Hard? I'm a child killer.
The third Moors Murderer.

611
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,320
That's what they all believe!

612
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,960
They won't when they've had time to
think about it. How do you know?

613
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,960
He won. Brady won.

614
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960
I can't stop thinking about him.

615
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,960
I mean, what was he doing
on the night of Edward Evans?

616
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,960
What was he thinking of?
He had a secret, Dave.

617
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,960
He had a monster of a secret

618
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960
and what use was it to him
without someone to share it with?

619
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,320
But he had Myra to share it with.
Yeah.

620
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960
And I believe he was growing tired of
her.

621
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,960
I think she probably resisted it,
but in order to keep him,

622
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,960
she agreed to try
and bring Dave into it.

623
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960
And in the end, he failed, didn't he?

624
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,960
You two have got to try
and get on with your lives now.

625
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,960
What about Pauline Reade?

626
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,960
Keith Bennett?

627
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
I'm not allowed to search for them.

628
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,960
Only Manchester police can do that.

629
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Frankly, between you, me and the gate
post, they flatly refuse to do so.

630
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,320
But I never said that.

631
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,800
I'd best be going.

632
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640
I'll see you out.
No, you stay there, pet.

633
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,960
I'm gonna wish you two
the very best of luck. All right?

634
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,960
Sister, which is Mrs Harris' bed?

635
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
It's that one over there.

636
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,960
Good morning, Mrs Harris.

637
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,960
Hiya.
Hiya.

638
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,800
What do you think?

639
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Beautiful.

640
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Family again, eh?

641
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960
It's the only family I'll ever
have now, Dave.

642
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000
I've lost Myra,

643
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,160
Mam.

644
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,320
I can't lose this.

645
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Yeah, I know.

646
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,960
I heard them come in.

647
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,960
I hope someone kills it
and buries it on t'bloody moors.

648
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,000
You filthy bitch!

649
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Come on!

650
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,320
It's not worth it. Leave it.

651
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,640
Safe home now anyway.

652
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,800
Right, girl.

653
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,640
Aye.

654
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,800
It's all right.

655
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,960
Maureen,

656
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,960
come on, he wants you.

657
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960
BABY CRIES

658
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,960
I can't.

659
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,960
How can I?

660
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Shh.

661
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,960
How can I ever be a mother again?

662
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,960
I'm a Hindley.

663
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,960
Shh.

664
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Maureen.

665
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,800
Where have you been?

666
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,640
I've made a pot of tea,
if you want some.

667
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,800
That'd be nice, love.

668
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,960
Nice place here.

669
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
It's small, but...

670
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,960
..it's much nicer than my last
place.

671
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,640
And I'm gonna redecorate.

672
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,960
And you got a job?

673
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,960
Lewis's.

674
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,960
Cleaning.

675
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,640
That's where I saw Aunty Cath.

676
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,960
I just...

677
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,960
I didn't dare believe it when
she said you'd wanna see me.

678
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,960
I'm so sorry.

679
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,960
You've had a terrible time.

680
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,960
The whole estate turned against us.

681
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,960
We just kept hoping it'd...
it'd go away.

682
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
We just kept hoping,
if we had a family and...

683
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,960
stuck together...

684
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,640
..it'd be OK.

685
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,960
But it wasn't.

686
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Bricks through the window.

687
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,960
Poison pen letters.

688
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,960
God knows what else through the
letter box.

689
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,960
People would spit at the kids.

690
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,960
Taunt them.

691
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Me and Dave...

692
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,160
we couldn't go anywhere
without trouble.

693
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Eventually,

694
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960
one night...

695
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Dave went for someone.

696
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Got sent to Walton.

697
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960
I just couldn't cope.

698
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
I was just in a pit.

699
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,640
Drinking.

700
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,640
Hopeless.

701
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
I had the kids put into care.

702
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,960
God forgive me.

703
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960
I just thought...

704
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,960
that I'd ruined their lives.

705
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,960
And they deserved better.

706
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,960
I should have been in touch.

707
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,960
I should have helped you.

708
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,960
I felt I had to choose.

709
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Dave's out of jail now.

710
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,640
He's got the kids back.

711
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,960
The social...social worker
says they're doing OK.

712
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,960
DAVE: Here you are, David.
Do you want some bread?

713
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,960
Come here, then. Take it off me.

714
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,960
Here.

715
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,960
Don't throw it too far though.

716
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Do you want some, Paul?

717
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,960
John, come away from the edge.

718
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,960
Good lad.

719
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Stay this side of the boat, John.

720
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,960
Hiya.

721
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Hi.

722
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Hello, boys.

723
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,800
Who's that lady?
It's your mam.

724
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,960
They've grown, haven't they?

725
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,960
David's just like you.

726
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,000
Named him well, then, didn't we?

727
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,960
We'd got a John and a Paul. I wasn't
going to let you have Ringo.

728
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,960
I never thought I'd see 'em again.

729
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,800
Let alone have 'em
back under my own roof.

730
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,640
You've done so well for them.

731
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,960
So, why would you want
to let me see 'em again?

732
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,960
I think I'm a decent dad these days,
but unless I suddenly sprout tits,

733
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,960
I'm never going to be their mother,
am I?

734
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960
Only you can be that.

735
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,960
They look happy, don't they?

736
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960
I'd hate to get in the way.

737
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Of what?

738
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,960
You might have met someone else
for a start.

739
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,960
I haven't.

740
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Not that I didn't get a few
proposals in Walton, mind.

741
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,800
Come on.

742
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,960
So, when are we gonna see you again,
then?

743
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,960
DOORBELL

744
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,960
Come on.

745
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,960
I don't know if I can do this, Mam.

746
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,960
It's what she wants, love.

747
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,960
It's what both of you want, eh?

748
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,960
I'm not sure.

749
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Come on.

750
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,000
I'll be waiting for you. Eh?

751
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,960
Yeah.

752
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
Myra.

753
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,640
Moby.

754
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,960
You don't know
how I've longed for this moment.

755
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,960
How are you?

756
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,960
OK.

757
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,960
If only that were true.

758
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,480
You've been through hell
because of me.

759
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,960
I haven't come here
to make you say that.

760
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,960
I want to say it.

761
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,960
I think about the consequences
of my actions all the time.

762
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,960
The hardest, of course,
is the children.

763
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,960
Living with the knowledge I helped

764
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,640
bring such suffering on them
and their families.

765
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,960
But there's not a day goes by

766
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,960
when I don't think about
what I've done to you.

767
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,320
I mean...

768
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,960
..people make excuses for me,

769
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,960
saying I must have been damaged
when I was little.

770
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,160
Damaged?

771
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,960
How?

772
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,960
You know how Dad
used to leather me sometimes.

773
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,960
He used to leather me too, Myra.

774
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,960
I didn't do what you did.

775
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,960
I know.

776
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,960
I know, Moby.

777
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,960
And I mustn't make excuses.

778
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,960
I keep telling 'em that.

779
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,960
Even when they say
it was all Ian's fault,

780
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,960
that he changed me,

781
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,000
corrupted me.

782
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,960
Who's they?
The governor.

783
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,960
And the others.

784
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,960
I've written to Ian.

785
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,960
I told him I want to sever all
contact.

786
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,800
I've um...

787
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,960
been going through my stuff.

788
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Getting rid of every trace
of his influence on me.

789
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,480
I want you to take these away.

790
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960
I don't want to see them again.

791
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,960
It makes me so ashamed
when I look at them.

792
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,640
You weren't always like that, Myra.

793
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,960
You were a different person once.

794
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,960
And I want to be that person again,
Mo.

795
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,640
I've started going to mass.

796
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,800
And confession.

797
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,960
And in finding God again...

798
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,800
..I do feel like
I've found the real me.

799
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,960
Please.

800
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,960
There has to be forgiveness surely
for all of us.

801
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,800
There has to be redemption.

802
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,960
GUITAR STRUMMED

803
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,960
All quiet on the Western Front?

804
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,960
Yeah. Never thought
I'd get 'em down so easy.

805
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,640
Well, um...

806
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,960
suppose I'd better
be getting on my way.

807
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,960
Why not stay?

808
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,960
The night?

809
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,960
Well, for good.

810
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,960
You mean that?
Yeah.

811
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Be a family again, eh?

812
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,960
Yeah?
Yeah.

813
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,160
Dad'll be chuffed.

814
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Yeah.

815
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,960
What about your mam?
She'd be pleased.

816
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,960
Yeah, but she blames me
for everything, doesn't she?

817
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,000
Not any more.

818
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,160
She's had years to think it through.

819
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,960
She understands the real blame
lies with Brady.

820
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,000
She still thinks Myra's innocent?

821
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,960
No. Nor does Myra.

822
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,960
She's accepted full responsibility.

823
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,960
She's told the truth.

824
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,960
How do you know?

825
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,960
She told me.

826
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,960
You've been to see her?

827
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,960
Yeah.

828
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,320
She's admitted everything.

829
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,480
What has she admitted?

830
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Dave...

831
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,800
I don't want to get into this now.

832
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,960
What has she admitted?

833
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,000
That she picked up John Kilbride
and Lesley Ann Downey,

834
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,960
delivered them into Ian's hands.

835
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,960
And that's it?
He bullied her into it, Dave.

836
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,800
But she knows now it was
a terrible thing to do.

837
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,960
If she was bullied into it,
why was she smiling

838
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,960
on that picture Brady took
of her on John Kilbride's grave?

839
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,960
She didn't know it was his grave.
Oh, come on.

840
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,960
She was in on all of it.

841
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,960
Abducting him,
helping to rape, kill and bury him.

842
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,960
That was just some sick little joke
they could share afterwards.

843
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,960
And Lesley Ann Downey.

844
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,960
If all Myra did
was pick her up for Brady,

845
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,000
then why was her voice on that tape?

846
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,960
And Keith Bennett, what about him?

847
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,960
Myra's adamant she had
no part in that. Pauline Reade?

848
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,960
I'm sure she knows nothing about
that.

849
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,960
Anyway, who said
anything happened to Pauline?

850
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,960
She's up there on the moors.

851
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,960
And if Myra really was sorry, she'd
start by telling the police

852
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,960
where she's buried.
And Keith Bennett, too.

853
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,960
I just have to believe
what my heart tells me, Dave.

854
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,960
And my heart tells me
whatever Myra did in the past,

855
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,800
she's a different person now.

856
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,960
I mean, they wouldn't be thinking

857
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,960
of giving her parole
if that weren't true.

858
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,960
They're thinking of releasing her?

859
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,960
If you could see her, Dave.

860
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,960
If you could speak to her,
you'd see.

861
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,960
She's the old Myra.

862
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,960
A warm, loving person.

863
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,320
She asks after the kids
all the time.

864
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,480
She'd like to see 'em one day.

865
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,640
She's not coming near my kids.

866
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,800
She's worse than Brady, Maureen.

867
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,960
He's just a sicko, a sex case.

868
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,960
The king of the sex cases.

869
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,960
But Myra,

870
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,160
she's human, she had feelings.

871
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,960
Remember the tears when Angela died?

872
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,960
That card she gave us.

873
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,960
Another little flower for God's
fucking garden!

874
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,960
Jesus! She was killing kids
at the same time. All right!

875
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,960
All right.

876
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,960
You believe what you want to.

877
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,960
But please,

878
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,960
please can't you let me do the same?

879
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,160
Of course.

880
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,320
I'm sorry, Maureen.

881
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,160
If we can't put it behind us...

882
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,320
We've got to for the kids' sake.

883
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,960
We can do it, girl.

884
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,960
We can.

885
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,960
David, sit down
and eat your breakfast.

886
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,960
There's your cereal, then, David.

887
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,960
Eat that. Good lad.

888
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,000
Paul, do you want some toast?

889
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,160
Stop playing. Eat your breakfast.

890
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,320
Come on.

891
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,960
Are you all sorted?

892
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,960
Come on, boys, eat up now.

893
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Let Grandad look at his paper.

894
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,960
That's it. Tuck yourselves in.

895
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,960
Don't play with it, eat it.

896
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,960
Oh, come on, don't mess with that.

897
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,960
You only need a little bit of butter
on there.

898
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,960
Never mind that now.
I want you to eat your breakfast.

899
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,960
You'll grow big and strong
like your dad.

900
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,800
No telling tales now.
Eat your breakfast.

901
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,960
Eat your breakfast.

902
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,960
He can take his shoes off later.

903
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,960
BOY: I can.

904
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,960
Eat up, boys.

905
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,960
You all right?

906
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,960
Yeah.

907
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,960
I've um...

908
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,960
I've given them their breakfast.

909
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,960
Good.

910
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,960
I've run out of eyeliner.

911
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,960
I'm just gonna nip to the chemist.

912
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,960
OK.

913
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,960
What have I just said? Come on now.

914
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,960
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