[upbeat music]
* *
- Hi, guys. Come here, George. Come here.
Hi! Hi! - Foxy.
- Hi! George, come here. - Foxy!
- Come here. George, come. [clicking tongue]
Come here. [kissing noises]
George.
What, really? Are you tired?
[laughter] - He just started yawning.
- [laughs]
- They don't like us, Mom.
* *
- Jump! Come on, go.
Go, Archie. Jump. Go!
Go!
- Archie.
- He's stealing it from you.
- [laughs]
- [squeals] - You're gonna smell so good.
OK, boys. - That doesn't look sanitary.
- Well, I wouldn't suggest drinking it.
Here, dry off Fisker. - [screams]
- Ah!
- OK, if everybody was gonna pick one name.
- [imitating engine revving] - Dom, Dom.
- [imitating engine revving]
- This one will be "Good With Children."
* *
- [squeals] Hold on.
Oh, my God, there's more stairs?
- Here.
* *
OK, that's our display.
- I'm so exhausted, babe.
I've never done so much moving in my life.
- I'm tired of all the changes.
Opening up an office, moving the office,
closing the business.
- Closing Cut Fitness was extremely emotional
for me and Eddie.
And now, I want him to enjoy life a little bit.
But Eddie not having a place to be every day
is kind of starting to get on my nerves,
if you know what I mean.
Show me the candy I eat. No, that's not candy.
- Wanna see how much sugar is in this?
- It's acai.
It's 50 ----ing calories. Get over it.
I hear him eat all day. I hear him chewing.
It drives me nuts.
Do I really have to hear you eat like that?
- [slurps]
- It builds up, builds up,
and then I'm gonna karate chop you
in the Adam's apple.
Well, now that we have this new office for Vena, like,
are you gonna spend more time here
like you were doing at Cut? - I don't know.
Depends on what project I come up with.
- You want to do something else in the fitness industry.
- I will figure it out as soon as I sit my ass down,
clear my head, and think.
- It's such a great idea to open up an office
closer to our house,
something that he can go,
do other projects, pay the bills.
I don't care what you do over there.
Jack off? I don't care. Just go.
Remember that party Jenn and I are hosting?
- No. What is it?
- Basically, whoever's name you pick,
you have to dress like them.
- Oh, funny.
- So I got Heather Dubrow.
- Oh, boy.
What's that gonna look like?
- I can walk around, being all snooty.
- [chuckles]
You think it's that easy, huh?
- You should not be doing that. - [laughs]
- I'm up here. You're down here.
- [chuckles]
[upbeat music]
* *
- Oh, my God. Funny gourd.
- A-ha.
Hi. - Hey.
- Oh, my God, is it pumpkin time?
- It's pumpkin time!
- Stop it. It's not even October.
- Don't you miss New York fall? - Yes.
- I miss that.
- I'm excited to go to Boston in October.
- Oh, is that parents' weekend? - Yeah.
- Look at this big pumpkin.
- It sold. - They sold it already. I know!
I wanted it. - That's like the
Charlie Brown pumpkin. - I know! I love it.
But I like the pumpkins with the curly stalks.
- Yeah, that's cute. - But I don't wanna make
a commitment because I wanna look at everything first.
- By the way, yes. We'll get it all.
- But you know, I wanna get something for Jenn.
- Why?
- For the party on Friday. - Oh, right.
Where we're dressing like each other?
- Do you think it's weird that she's co-hosting it
with Tamra? - Yes.
- Yes! Me, too.
It just doesn't make sense to me, like,
why Jenn chooses to still be loyal.
Like, she's just way too nice.
It's a lot to go along with this roller coaster friendship.
- Can we sit here? It's so pretty.
- Sure.
It's literally giving me whiplash at this point.
- Gina, you are my friend.
- Mm-hmm. - I'm gonna tell you.
When we were at the boxing place,
Jenn was saying apparently,
Shannon's trying to dig into your relationship.
- Shannon is kind of poking around,
asking someone about Gina's relationship.
- Why would Shannon be poking in their business?
- I don't know.
- 'Cause Gina and Travis seem good to me.
- This has been something that has been bugging me because
Emily brought up Shannon had expressed some concern
for my relationship.
- I don't want her to lose the relationship.
But picture it flipside,
if after three years, he was saying,
I'm still emotional and hung up about my marriage.
You know?
- She has no problem poking around
in other people's relationships.
But she never-- - Talks about her own.
- Wants to talk about her own issues with John.
- Yeah. It's a way of deflecting, right?
- Well, yeah, for sure.
I mean, if something would happen with her and John,
she once or twice would reach out to me
and tell me what was going on.
And then if I voiced concern about it,
I was creating a problem.
- I thought if you were so concerned,
you would pick up the phone and check in.
- But what am I supposed to say?
- "Are you doing OK?"
- "Oh, hey, like, is it sh--y today?"
I don't want to overstep my boundary.
I don't know everything that's happening there.
But don't you have concerns about Shannon
and, like, what is happening there?
- I feel like we had such a precarious relationship
for so long.
And I've really, really enjoyed her friendship over the last,
like, especially six months. - Mm-hmm.
- I don't want to dive in there.
- Why bring up Shannon and John,
but then actively not say anything about it?
I feel like Heather is maybe sensing that
she's gotten herself into trouble here.
And all of a sudden, she wants to pump the brakes on this.
- Yes, I know a lot about Shannon's relationship.
And a lot of the girls do.
And if something comes up and we're talking about it,
that's what we do.
But there's a difference between talking about someone
and talking against someone.
And I'd rather not be a part of that.
- I don't understand what this is.
Is our friendship to the level where we're concerned about
each other's relationships or not?
- Well, then, do you feel like you need to talk to her
and ask her? - Absolutely.
Just feels like she needs something to talk about.
She doesn't want to talk about herself.
[upbeat music]
* *
- Hey, mama. - Hi.
I don't know where our weather went.
- I know, it's kinda cold.
- Let's walk for a minute, and then let's get, like,
a coffee or, like, I don't know, something.
What did you do this morning?
- Might have slept off some wine.
- Yes, good.
- I know you were out and about.
- I was out early. I was up early this morning.
We had the jog-a-thon. I went to the gym.
[laughter]
Taylor and I went to college together
in this tiny town in Tahlequah, Oklahoma.
I don't know that we ever even went to class,
but we sure had a good time.
So I'm here. I'm, like--I'm here.
- I'm glad you made time for me again
'cause I definitely wanted to talk to you about last night.
I know that you've been with her for two years,
but where is this going?
- We'll be married in 12 months.
Really. I mean, I can say that confidently.
It's--it really, for me,
truly is a matter of the timing of her divorce.
- You don't have to censor anything.
- I think he's a total babe. - [laughs]
- And I think that he genuinely cares about you and your kids.
- Taylor's home.
I need someone else who loves me and knows me
to give me their opinion
because all of this talk is getting really heavy.
- Do you think that he's gonna be loyal to her
for the rest of her life? - No, I don't! I don't.
- If you slept with somebody else,
does that mean you really love her?
- Definitely.
- It's starting to make me question what I want.
And it feels like it's becoming too much to carry.
- I talked more to Ryan last night than I did
your entire marriage to Will. - I know.
- Then what are you waiting for?
Are you afraid that there's something that's gonna come out
that you don't know about,
and you're going to have a ring on your finger?
I mean, is there some-- - [sighs]
- If you trust him implicitly-- - I do. I do.
I just want to do it right.
He sits at this spot five years divorced.
- That's what we talked about. - I'm sitting at this spot
two years still going through my divorce.
Our divorce is complicated.
Will works for my family's business.
In their minds, Will's not married to me anymore,
so Will should maybe not be a part of the family business.
And so it's been like these little tiny steps
to make sure that everybody's OK.
'Cause at the end of the day,
I didn't want Will losing his job.
- Do you think that there's somewhere subconsciously
that you're maybe dragging out a little bit?
Because once you are like, "OK, I'm divorced,"
and then he might just be like,
"OK, let's go get married. Here's a ring."
You've got a little bit of protection--
- I do.
- And having to make that decision right now.
- I keep saying to him, like, we don't have to be married.
- Yeah. - I don't have to be a--
I don't want to be a financial burden.
I don't want to be these things that could put strain on us
that we don't have to do.
And he's like, you understand that's just self-sabotage.
And that's where it's like, I--I think it--
I think it might be. - Wow.
- I do worry sometimes.
Like, does Ryan do so well right now
because in his mind, he's still somewhat free?
And I worry about the second that the rings go on,
Ryan feeling trapped.
And I am not gonna be a part of a second failed marriage.
I'm not doing it.
I just feel like Ryan and I operate so well right now,
and I'm so happy.
I'm so happy, you know?
Oh.
- You're gonna be just fine. - I know.
I think. - [laughs]
[upbeat music]
* *
- I thought Jenn was, like, kind of crazy
when she had this idea.
But it is fun, right, to dress up as each other?
It's like a game night too, which I love games.
- That'll be fun. - So that'll be fun.
- Nail this look.
You have to make me really pale, right?
- And how are you gonna do-- - Really contoured.
Like overly contoured?
- The highest cheekbones ever. - I'm happy for Jenn,
that she's having something at her house
and she feels comfortable.
It's been difficult. - Mm-hmm.
- And she probably feels better now that we met with Ryan,
and we squashed everything.
- I'm asking you these questions
so we can just get over it.
- Yeah, I appreciate the time. - I thank you for that.
- We can just move forward. - Yes.
- Fair enough. - Yeah.
- Shannon's pretty upset with Heather right now.
Evidently, Heather's been telling people
behind Shannon's back that her relationship is not well.
- Do you think Shannon's gonna bring it up today?
- I think that she won't be able to help herself.
* *
- Can I borrow that?
- It's an XL, so.
- OK, thank you. - Welcome.
- Do you have any suntan pantyhose that I can borrow?
- Sorry?
- Do you know what pantyhose are?
- I--that's underwear. You mean, like--
- You don't know what pantyhose are?
- Is it tights? - Pantyhose!
- Tights. - They're sheer.
- I don't know what you're saying.
- Nylons.
- What are nylons?
- Pantyhose!
- Sheer tights?
- Apparently, pantyhose are called tights.
Tights, to me, have more darkness.
Pantyhose are sheer.
I mean, clearly, this is just another example
of my age.
- When have you seen me wear tights,
except when I was, like, six years old?
* *
OK.
[knocking] [dogs barking]
Archie, you be nice.
- Hello.
[gasps] Look at you. Who are you?
- You're an open book of bullsh--!
- Gina?
- Don't put words in my mouth. - Don't say the words.
You are an open book of bullsh--!
- Of course, it's Gina.
I'm me.
I'm Vicki Gunvalson, the OG of the OC.
I am dressing like me.
- Vicki, what are you gonna say when you walk in today?
- I'm gonna go, "Where's the party?"
And then, you guys are gonna give me a keg stand.
- Vicki's a good whoop it up time.
both: Shot. Shot. Shot. Shot. - [whooping]
- I know that I'm in for some crazy fun.
I'll be right back, sweetie. I'm just gonna put my Spanx on.
- Really? I was having a conversation with you.
- I know, but I just need, like, five.
- Are you dating anyone, Vicki? - I am.
Well, I'm so scared of dating 'cause I've been
taken advantage of by the last two guys.
Over 11 years, they lied and cheated on me.
So it's not a good experience.
I had 18 things on the list of what I wanted in my future man,
and he hit all 18.
- [laughs] - Yeah.
Here we go.
58 to 63, must be a Christian,
have his own home, independently wealthy,
an entrepreneur, forward thinker,
have a passport, love Mexico, loves to travel,
already be divorced,
not going through a divorce. [buzzer]
Must have children, country Western boy,
love country music, compassionate.
You have to adore me.
You have to make me laugh,
and I have to make you laugh
and we have to have fun together.
If he had a boat, it would be a plus.
But I don't really need a boat.
Look at you. - Wait till I get the wig on.
- I'm scared of who got you.
- I know. I'm also scared.
- It could be really bad. - 'Cause you know what?
For me, it's like the Madonna factor.
Like, there's so many different versions of me that--
that they could go for.
I hope they do current Gina.
But I have a feeling they will not.
- Platinum long blonde-- - It'll be with the tracks
hanging out my head.
- And then, I'm gonna clip back here.
- Oh, my God, that is everything.
Everybody's gonna know it's her.
- Cheers.
- Oh, God, that is hysterical.
Are you guys, like, budsy-wudsy?
- No. She wasn't nice to me last year.
- At the end of the day, Shannon, I feel bad for you.
- She said, I have nothing but pity for your life.
OK, (BLEEP) her.
- It was mean spirited. - That's mean spirited?
You know what's mean spirited? Watching John.
No man I know would ever act like that.
- Who are you budsy-wudsy with?
- Well, Tamra, now. - Good.
- And Emily. Emily. Yeah, she's fun.
I'm in a good place with Emily,
and I wanna keep it that way. - Shannon and I are good.
However, I'm very nervous, knowing what I do
about her relationship with John.
She's a delicate flower.
- But--and I thought Heather. Not so much.
- Don't cry tonight. Be strong. - No, I'm not.
No, but I don't need everybody flippin' chiming in--
- No, no, no. - About a relationship
that I've had for 3 and 1/2 frickin' years.
- Right. It's a long time.
- Evidently, Heather's been telling Emily and Gina
that the relationship with you and John is sh---y.
- Details, or she just said sh---y?
- Said it's not good.
- I've had conversations with Heather
about normal relationship issues.
But for her to allude that it's serious,
and it's really bad,
no.
People have seen me with John all the time.
They say, "I've never seen you look happier."
So you know, rain on my parade, Heather.
- * Whoa, ooh, oh, oh, oh *
* Whoa, ooh, oh *
* Whoa, ooh, oh, oh, oh *
* Whoa, ooh, oh *
[sneaky music]
* *
- Georgia, have you seen Everly yet?
- Oh, they're all gone? - [laughs]
- I don't even have children at this point?
OK well, Georgia, your job will be easy tonight.
- We got lips, we got the swoopy hair,
and we got the dark eyes. It's all you need.
She doesn't even really, for the most part, wear eye shadow.
- Heather Dubrow's here!
* *
Would you like some champs? - [squeals]
You actually--this is unbel-- - It's amazing. It's amazing.
- Your wig is good. - You're so cute.
- Oh, my God, you're so cute.
- I'm dying!
The walk, the face, oh, my gosh.
- All right, I'm gonna go downstairs.
- Tamra and I needed to co-host
so we can start the rebuild of our friendship.
- I'll take this chair 'cause I look like a princess.
- With that said, I am serving alcohol.
I'm gonna watch Tamra with the tequila.
[chuckles] - [screams]
- For me, the key to nailing Taylor is
she lives at The Deck.
- She's always at The Deck. - So if you go to The Deck,
I'll see her? - Taylor will be at the bar.
- I literally went to The Deck.
I got the hat. I got the shirt.
And if it all goes south, I can work at The Deck.
- Hello? - [squealing]
I had to grow a body in one week.
It's like Spanx with booty pad.
- Am I late?
- Oh, my God!
- Are you day drinking?
- Oh, you're the baddest bitch here.
I can tell. That's--yes!
Yes!
I am so impressed with how Gina did Emily.
She nailed it, except for the boobs.
She--she might have needed to add a little more in there.
It was a little flat. [chuckles]
- Oh, my God, it's Jenn Pedranti,
ready to do yoga.
She has 1,000 puppies and babies.
- Her hair is a little darker.
But damn. If I look like that, I am doing all right.
- Oh, my God, I love it.
- By the way, you look good as me.
- This party cost me $36,000!
- I wouldn't buy a money gun. That déclassé.
- Well, hello.
- Oh!
- That does not look like me at all.
She could wore a Cut Fitness hat.
She could have wore some titty prosthetics.
She could have wore a big sign saying asshole.
I'm a little disappointed.
- I like your pussy.
- You do? Do you recognize it? - [laughing] Yes, I do.
- Do you recognize--
- I'm dead.
Jenn took the time to get a Smudge, the cat.
She did such a great job.
- I'm tired being Shannon.
- I can't even feel the chair.
- I can only be neurotic for so long.
- Yeah. - Before I--
oh! [screaming]
[all shouting at once]
- Careful! Watch your head.
- Oh, my God, you are Shannon.
- Oh, my God!
- I dropped my readers!
- Oh!
* *
- You're an open book of bullsh--!
[laughter]
- I love the external hair extensions.
- I know. I saw that.
I'm not surprised that Shannon has chosen
a version of me that was me when I was at my worst.
- Gina, your extensions are showing.
- Yeah, you got a little track, honey.
Let me just help you out here.
Let me help you out. - It's OK, it's OK.
- But I also don't think that she could pull off
my current version.
- Do I have a situation?
I have a situation in my hair. - A little situation.
- Woo-hoo! Where's the party?
[all screaming]
- The party's here!
- Who wants to give me a keg stand?
- OK, yeah. Let's do it.
- What? - I've not done a keg stand
since surprising Michael in his dorm.
- Let's do a keg stand. - OK, let me do it.
all: One, two, three, four, five.
- Actually, it's kind of fun.
[all speaking at once]
- All right, go.
[all speaking at once]
- I got you, Vicki. - Wait.
all: Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go!
- Ah!
- I can't drink upside down.
- That was very good.
- Let's be honest. I feel like Gina,
this Gina-- - Yeah.
- Would do a keg stand. - I 100% would.
- Go, go, go!
- One, two, three.
- Five, six, seven, eight.
[all speaking at once]
- I'm not a keg stander person.
I'm gonna vomit.
[coughs] - That was so good!
- I can't do that thing where you can, like, down--
you know, open your throat and just down stuff.
- Tamra. - Use your core.
Jenn, use the core.
Use your core. Tamra's got this.
- Go, Tamra. Get the core. - Okay, what do I do?
- Whoo! - I need the pump!
- Ready? Let's go. - [trills]
- Oh, God. - Of course, being from
Oklahoma, you know how to run a keg.
- You got it. - I got it. I got it.
I got it. - [grunts]
[laughter]
- Heather Dubrow loved it!
She loved it! - Yeah.
- It was amazing!
- You know what's so good?
I can now check that off the list.
- Yes! Yes! - Didn't have to do it!
- I mean, as long as I look like Heather,
I might as well tarnish her reputation.
- I'm slutty Heather.
I love being Heather Da-hoe!
Heather Da-hoe is the way to go.
- Heather Da-hoe.
- Well, apparently dressing up like Heather Dubrow
doesn't mean you behave like Heather Dubrow.
- Heather Da-hoe is the way to go.
- Do not take off your top as me!
* *
- Oh, there--oh, that's pretty. - So pretty.
Let's eat it. Yay. - Let's eat all of it.
I want some cheese.
I had dinner with Tamra the other night.
We had a lot of drinks.
We were chatting. - Yeah.
- Remember what Heather told us about Shannon
and her relationship with John?
I talked to Tamra. But she--but she knew about it.
Heather shared some things with me
about their relationship,
and it's concerning.
- She kind of told me that too. - Yes.
This is what kind of hurts my feelings.
I open up to her about Shane.
And I share all these things about my family.
Then, you need to be honest with me because you know what?
I can help her. I can be an advocate for her.
But she won't let us.
- Well, the thing is, she doesn't want the help.
But then, like, if she has a couple cocktails,
then she's like, I want the help, I want the help.
- That's unfair for us.
- I know that. I completely agree.
- Because then, we're a friend at the time.
But then, the next day, you have to pretend like
none of it happened. - Right.
- Gina takes pictures.
She goes-- - Yeah!
That's the candid. - Yeah.
- Maybe Heather needs to just fess up and be like,
everybody knows about it. Everybody's talking about it.
- I don't disagree, but I don't...
- You don't think it's gonna happen.
[upbeat music]
* *
- Vicki, get over here!
* *
- Just so you guys know, for next Tuesday is my event.
And it's outdoors, super casual.
Little Mexican fiesta with Señor Noodles. Super fun.
- I can't wait actually. - Yeah.
- Dubrow, why don't you explain the rules of the game?
- It's called "Do Or Drink."
I'm gonna pick a card.
I gotta pick somebody to act out a sex position.
Vicki? I pick you.
How do you want to have the sex?
What is your favorite position? - There's so many,
but I'm lately liking this.
Go behind me.
- I go behind? - Let's see what she's into.
- Yes.
- Get it, get it.
OK. - Yes! Yes.
- (BLEEP). - I object.
- (BLEEP) yes. [all shouting at once]
[laughter]
- God, you think I'm some ----ing sex freak
or something. I'm not.
- Oh, yes!
Use your imagination. [kisses]
- All right. Oh, my lord.
- What is it?
- "Call a local pizza place and tell them you want a pizza
delivered by a driver with an extra large sausage."
- [laughs] - Oh, I'll do it.
Call Sal's. It's the best pizza.
- Go ahead do it. Call them. - Oh, my God.
- Okay, okay. Give me a phone.
- Right there.
- Wait, you're gonna do it right now?
- Yeah. - Well, I have to,
or I have to take two shots. - It's the game.
- Pizza sounds good. - Shh!
- We could use a pizza. - I would love a pizza.
[line ringing] - Get one.
- Shh. - You want to get pizza?
- Sal's Pizzeria, Mission Viejo.
- It's a child. - Hi. Do you deliver?
- Uh, yes. - I do have a special request.
- [laughs] - Do you, um,
have a driver with an extra large--
[laughs] Sausage?
- Yeah. [laughter]
- I think she does-- I think they do.
[laughter]
- She hung up on me.
[laughter]
She's like, "I slept with him last night.
And you bitch."
- I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead.
- Guess which player has had a threesome.
If you get it right, they drink three times.
If you get it wrong, you drink three times.
Taylor.
* *
- Yes. - Oh!
- Oh, my gosh, Taylor! Really?
Wait, Taylor...
- Would it spice up your love life?
- [laughs]
- I can't tell if you're Emily or Shannon
and I'm getting-- it's getting creepy.
- I mean-- [laughs]
- No, Gina. Emily has not transformed into me.
This is more what I do.
Not-- that's not me.
- Motorboat the person to your right for 15 seconds.
- Oh, my goodness! Get in there.
- All right.
- Get in there, motorboat. Oh, yes.
[laughter]
- Taylor, I didn't realize how hot your boobs were.
- I do this at The Deck all the time.
- OK.
Vicki. Vicki. - Victoria!
- Let's go, Victoria.
- OK, do a striptease and take a shot
for every article of clothing you have on.
- Let's see the boobies! - Yep.
[all shouting]
- Oh, yeah! - You look good.
- My kids are gonna be mortified, right?
- Are you kidding me?
After 13 years, your kids are gonna be mortified now?
- When you ever bring a family van
to pick up six people? This is ridiculous.
Why are you sending a family van?
- I want to flip the table over and bed you down.
- You're not bedding me down at the table.
I have never been with multiple partners in my life!
- At the same time. - You're disgusting!
- Vicki pretends like she's this prim, proper little rose.
But we all know who she really is.
Well! - You guys, you guys, shh.
- Listen! - Ding, ding, ding.
[laughter]
- OK, then take a sip.
- OK, pay attention, women. - [whispers] Go.
- OK, lick the nipple of the person on your right.
- Oh, my God, is this legal?
- [squeals] - Oh, no!
- Emily! - Ah!
- Oh, my God.
- [whooping]
- [laughs]
- When I heard "game night," I thought, like,
Monopoly and Twister.
I did not envision my nipples getting licked.
But you know what? I'm not mad about it.
- If there's a nipple, I'll lick it.
I went to dinner with Emily the other night.
And she had said to me that you had told her
that Shannon's relationship with John was not good.
[dramatic music]
- I did not say that to her.
- Heather? Heather? - "It wasn't good"?
- Heather, can I talk to you for a minute?
'Cause this is not-- this is not OK.
- Not really sure why I'm being singled out right now,
but curious to hear what Shannon has to say.
- I've been beyond upset. - OK.
- Because Tamra asked me the other night, multiple times,
"do you trust Heather?"
She said that "I was with Emily last night,
"and she was almost in tears because she felt bad.
"She said that Heather pulled her aside
and said 'Shannon and John's relationship is bad.'"
- I didn't say that. - And then--
- That's bullsh--. - She heard that you told Gina
that John and my relationship is bad.
And then she said, "and Heather told me."
- The problem is, is that Shannon likes to tell us
all these things about her relationship with John.
She does it on a very-- - Low key.
- Because, you know what?
She wants to protect John and her.
- I get that. I understand that, 100%.
But it gets to the point where it's unfair.
- Because you're revealing everything.
- It's unfair.
- And Shannon's revealing roses.
- Thank you.
- I have not told any of these girls your story.
Now-- - But Tamra said that
you sat down with her. - And said what?
- Said that our--all-- only in generalities,
"it's really bad."
- I'm always very neutral about you and John, always.
Tamra is trying to drum up something
as if I can't keep a secret.
I don't like that.
But also, I think that Shannon is way too concerned
about who is talking about her relationship
then being concerned about her actual relationship.
- Now, I'm gonna have to talk to John about this.
And he's going to say, "you know how private I am.
"Why would you tell anybody anything
about our relationship?"
And when we fight... - Right.
- It's devastating to me. - Devastating, yeah.
- I have never cared about a person more in my life.
John is, like, supportive, loving, easygoing, affirming,
good to my kids. Like, the list goes on and on.
I certainly don't want to lose that.
- I'm just telling you, I have been
a really good friend to you.
I care about your relationship. I care about your children.
And I wouldn't spread your private information.
And anything you told me in that vault,
I would never repeat. - Right.
- Just so you know, some of these girls
are very specific about you not having a good relationship
and hiding it.
- Do I know stuff about what's going on in her life? Yes.
Am I concerned about it? Yes.
But do I respect the fact that she just does not
want to talk about that? Yes.
- This is my private information
that I felt that I could share with you.
And by the way, that is my private information
that all these girls now are talking about.
- What happened?
- She said they got in, like, this huge fight,
and he left her at Nobu.
- I think that if it was just an isolated situation--
- But the question is, is it isolated?
- You and I have had a really nice relationship.
And all I've said to these girls is
how you and I have gotten so close.
- So you've never said to any-- - No, no, no.
Let me finish speaking, please. I have done what I need to do.
But I am not taking a fall for defiling our friendship
'cause I didn't do that.
And I refuse to be held to the fire
for something I did not do. - I get it.
- Oh, where'd you find chicken?
- It's like dry chicken.
- Let me ask you a question. - OK, Tamra. I mean--
- Did Heather talk to you...
- Yes.
- What are you whispering, Tamra?
[dramatic music]
- What are you whispering, Tamra?
- My question is...
Did you talk to Gina and Emily
about Shannon's relationship?
- How about this?
Did all of you talk about Shannon's relationship?
- Can't do this, Heather.
Not gonna do this in a group.
- You know what, Heather? That's not fair.
But you can't blame it on us.
You can't blame it on us. - You know what? Stand down.
- You're the one that talked about it.
Heather is deflecting and trying to blame it on us
to absolve her of any wrongdoing.
However, if you want to go to the crux of
where all this began, it began with Heather talking about
things that Shannon had shared with her.
- It's a concern.
- Gina?
OK, you know what? - Oh, oh, oh, oh!
- I am the last person involved in this.
And I'm trying to help either way.
- You know what, Gina? I-- - I respect your boundaries.
You're the one poking around in my relationship, Shannon.
* *
So really, I think you should stand down.
- I'm not poking. - You went to Emily,
and you were concerned about my relationship with Travis.
- Just the same way that Heather was!
- Why are you yelling at her if she is concerned?
* *
I wasn't upset because it's a concern.
- You owe my boyfriend a huge ----ing apology!
- Your boyfriend owes you a thousand apologies,
apparently, from what everybody else is saying.
They're concerned about you, that's all.
This has nothing to do with me. - There's--
nobody here knows anything about my relationship.
* *
I have never been more in love,
and I've never hurt more
when we've not been in a good spot.
- We're all concerned.
* *
- Are you ----ing kidding me?
Am I getting ----ing ambushed here?
These girls are exaggerating.
It's like it's a rat feeding frenzy.
You guys, enjoy having conversations about me.
- No, no, no, no. - You don't know.
- Shannon-- - I'm ----ing out.
- Shannon!
- As you get older, less gossip [indistinct].
And I hear it's been happening with you.
- Oh, it's been horrible.
- I'm sorry. - Thank you for that.
I've seen Shannon and John together,
and they seem very happy.
Bless them for trying to survive this group.
- Calm down. - No.
You guys, this is my life.
- I know it's your life. Calm down.
- No. John is-- - Calm down, calm down.
I'm done with her. - I didn't know any of this.
- No, that's bullsh--. - Listen.
- Heather, Heather, Heather.
What happened?
I heard that you were telling them--
- Yeah, everything is my fault.
Apparently, I'm a Machiavellian terrible person
who just, like, manipulates everyone.
- But I don't know.
- Everyone has talked about
Shannon's relationship for years.
- Vault is vault, right?
We don't talk about it. Right.
- We don't talk about it. - No.
- Listen, I'm gonna say this from the bottom of my heart.
And I mean this.
- I thought what Heather did was rude.
- She told that she never said a word to any of you.
- That's not ----ing true. - So she lied.
OK, what the (BLEEP)?
Why would you say I'm not talking the truth about--
why did I get bring into this?
- Why did I get part of this? - Why did I--
- You guys are all saying I'm sh-- talking.
Listen to me.
- I haven't said ----ing anything.
But why did you tell her that I'm sh-- talking her?
- I didn't say "Tamra."
I said, "they've all talked about the relationship."
[tape rewinding]
I'm just telling you that some of these girls
are very specific about you not having a good relationship
and hiding it.
- I don't call you.
I haven't told you anything bad about John.
- OK, that's not true.
- That's two years ago.
- No, it was actually a couple of months ago.
We went to Javier's
and you told me a lot of things.
- I don't-- I don't know what I said.
- OK, you did. OK?
[sighs deeply]
From what she has told me,
I don't feel like he's invested in their relationship.
And I feel like she's wasting her time,
and I feel like she can do better.
And I'm just gonna leave it at that.
- Shannon pays for everything.
The family dynamic isn't great.
He's never slept over.
And his son lives with him,
so she doesn't go over there.
[sighs] I don't wanna talk about it.
- OK, there's a-- let's get a plate.
- What do you eat here?
- Cheese and bread and meat.
- It's beautiful, but there's really no sustenance here.
- So where are we going for dinner?
- I--yeah.
- No, we have-- we have more food coming.
- Where we going for dinner? - Oh, we do?
- Yeah, we have more food coming.
- I want a glass of wine.
- OK, let's go.
- Oh, my God. Right now?
You go out the door. Hit me on the ass
on your way out. Oh!
Ah, got this!
Who do you have to know to whoop it up around here with?
I'm so thirsty.
- There's a bar right over there.
- Do you have a red wine, a Cabernet?
- Uh, what I have here is what I have.
- [groans]
You are not doing this right.
What--what the hell happened to my life?
[grunts]
[cork pops] Boom.
OK.
Who wants red wine?
- You guys are making the decision on
where my relationship goes because he's done.
I'm not-- - No, Shannon.
- I'm done. - Shannon.
- I don't-- - Shannon.
- I wanna--stop it. - Shannon.
- No. - Shannon--
- I have never loved someone more,
and you guys are putting my-- - OK, I understand that.
- I don't even know how many-- - It's OK.
- I don't know how I'm gonna talk to him about this tomorrow
because it's our private business!
- Yes, but, Shannon, my relationship is
my private business, but I always ----ing
share it with you, Shannon.
That's the difference.
It hurts me that you don't share things.
- My relationship with John...
- Why is it--why is your-- - Is good!
It's good, except when we get in an argument.
And people get in arguments. It's ----ing natural.
- Stop it. - That's fine.
- No, I just want my purse. Then I'm gonna go.
- No, stop. - Just please stop her.
- No. - From following me.
I'm gonna go. - Shannon.
- Everyone can talk about my relationship.
- No. No, Shannon. No. No!
- Don't make me look irrational.
- You're not irrational. - Oh, my God.
- Shannon. - Can I--I'm gonna go.
No, I'm gonna go. - Stop.
- My relationship's over. - Shannon.
- Give yourselves a pat on the back.
- No, no one wants that for you.
You can tell things to people so that they can help,
and they can be your friend,
and they can rally around you. But the problem is--
- You don't need a rally. - I don't--no.
- OK, she doesn't need a rally. You know what, Vicki?
- She doesn't need a cheerleading group!
- I've been trying to be a friend to Shannon.
And I'm trying to be a friend,
and I'm saying that we would be her ----ing friend.
I would be there for you, Shannon.
I would be your ----ing friend.
Whatever you want to tell me, how bad it is, I would--
- It's not that bad! I have arguments!
- OK, it's not that bad, Shannon. That's fine!
- I have arguments. - OK, Shannon.
It's not that bad. Fine.
She's trying to maintain a relationship publicly
that she wants to look like
it's solid and perfect and amazing.
- Why is she getting emotional? - I don't know because
people are trying to make-- paint it out like it's so bad.
- He's called her names and said that
she's fat or unattractive. I hate saying that word.
I don't even like saying that word.
It makes my heart hurt that someone would say that.
See, I'm getting upset
that someone would say that to a woman.
I'm always gonna be the ----ing bad guy in this situation.
- No, you're making me the bad guy in this situation.
- You know what? We're all the bad guy
in this situation, Heather. - No.
- None of us are gonna come out of this clean.
Shannon's gonna be the good guy,
and we're all the ----ing bad guy.
- I'm gonna go.
My relationship cannot be the topic of conversation
with these people.
I've called Emily and Gina once.
- Since 2020. - Once, in 2020.
- They're making it-- - About my relationship.
And she says it's making it sound like
I call them all the time.
- Because I worked so ----ing hard
to get to the point where Shannon and I were friends.
And then when you say things that are ----ing honest,
but you're like, no, you did tell me things at Javier's.
No, you did say things. - You get attacked.
- I don't know if my relationship with Shannon
can survive this. I don't know.
I am sure she's pissed at me. I am sure she hates me.
I'm sure she thinks that I betrayed her.
But at the end of the day, who's gonna be there?
Is it going to be John, or is it going to be us?
I'm going to put money on us.
* *
All I am, Heather, is ----ing concerned.
That's it.
That's it!
- What did Heather say to you?
- She said she's never said a word.
That we're vault.
And she goes, you've told me a handful of things.
I'm like, no, it hasn't been a handful.
It's been two to three times
I've had a conversation with her.
- So, do you feel like Heather's lying?
- I don't know.
- Heather likes to light the fire and walk away.
She absolutely told me and she told Emily
about Shannon's relationship problems.
- I wanna make sure you're OK. - No, I'm not.
- Yeah. - I'm not.
What's going on with your marriage?
* *
Because I hear that there's stuff going on
on the internet right now about yours.
- Yeah, that's-- - Is it deflection?
- No. It's not.
Listen, sweetie, just because your relationship is no bueno,
don't be coming after mine
with dumb lies and rumors from ridiculous sources online.
- You guys, I'm--like, I'm out.
Keep talking about me. I just need my bag.
- Why isn't she talking about it?
I don't know. She should talk about it.
- You know what? I don't have affairs.
I don't have bad sh--.
I have arguments that paralyze me.
I'm leaving.
- Listen to me. We're gonna talk.
- Yeah, I need to go, Heather. - OK, OK. Bye.
- OK, you guys, stop. Please stop with the camera.
Stop. I'm not a crazy person.
Stop.
* *
Vicki? - Yeah, that's good enough.
* *
- (BLEEP).
We have a normal relationship.
- I know. I get it.
I don't know if Shannon and John's relationship
is "normal."
What I do know is my friend Shannon
wants this relationship to work.
And when everybody's talking bad about it,
she's gonna have all these voices in her head
of, like, what don't I know? What don't I see?
Let her figure it out.
- OK. - I gotta leave.
- I love you. - I love you.
- Thank you. Thank you. - [indistinct]
- I just gotta be there for Shannon.
- I got it.
- Does anyone care to come up and talk to me?
- Shannon, Shannon--
- I called Emily and Gina one time in 2020.
I have never called them since.
This is my life.
I have normal fights with my boyfriend that paralyze me.
And I have talked about that on camera.
But everyone's still talking about me.
- Hang on, I'll turn the alarm off.
[alarm blaring]
- Is there a fire? - Should we--
- Did Shannon burn the house down?
- I wanna go home and figure out
how I'm going to tell my private boyfriend that
everyone is ----ing talking about us
and making judgments. - No one's talking about him.
- What's so aggravating to me is
none of these women really know John,
but yet, they all have opinions and comments.
- Hey, Emily, can we talk?
- Yeah. - Inside?
- No one's talking about you. - I am--
- They're all talking about it. - Everybody's talking.
- Nobody that matters is ----ing talking.
- You're my friend.
But then I feel like we're sitting here tonight--
what are you doing, man?
- I'm just being honest. That's it.
- Believe me.
If I wanted to spread sh--, I could spread sh--.
I don't do that.
I think that lately, you are just looking for sh--
to be pissed about with me. And I don't like it.
- When you talk about your life, it comes across
like you're better than everyone else
and that your life is more important.
- That's not how I mean it.
- Tamra is the one who says things,
but you're the one that has a phony relationship with her.
- I don't feel like I have a phony relationship--
- Yes, you do.
It's the fakest ----ing thing I've ever seen.
[sighs]
You have a point.
- Look, we all have conversations.
- I'm gonna come sit. I feel like--
- So we were all talking about it.
But then it becomes a Heather issue.
- It's a Heather issue because she called you and told you.
- I don't think we should get into the semantics.
Shannon vaulted you. You vaulted us.
Everybody's violated the vaulting.
- I violated the vaulting. - Right. But the problem is--
but the problem is-- - We're worried about her.
- Right. And I get it, this is super sensitive for her.
But you can't start chucking under
all the people that care about you.
You've gotta start taking responsibility
for the way that you behave in your own sh--.
- I did have a vault with Heather,
and I thought it was a safe spot.
And it wasn't. I learned my lesson.
- Let's go whoop it up.
- Why is she so defensive?
- He's gonna ----ing leave her
if she talks about this sh--.
She's scared. - Then (BLEEP) him.
Then (BLEEP) him.
- It's a ----ing spectacle.