Previously on "The Real Housewives of Orange County."
All right, here we go.
Shut up!
Right there is the Question Booth.
I'm first if there's money in there.
She needs a house.
I know right now I'm manic
because it's just hard to watch you moving out of our house.
It seems like all you're talking about
is how to undo the decision that you made.
It's really confusing to me.
When we were doing the Tres Amigas tour,
we always have to do it around Tamra's schedule.
And you're walking around going, thank me for the show.
- She said, you're out. - Yeah, I'm out.
It was a lot about drinking.
And I felt that it was bad taste
to do a show right after Shannon's DUI.
- Hey. - Hi.
- Heather, this is Katie. - So good to finally meet you.
- Have you met Heather? - I have.
I went to your Christmas party.
She stared me straight in the face for a good five seconds
and then turned around and said nothing to me.
She's playing two different roles with me.
I wouldn't go up against Heather.
I would hide under the table.
Just because I drink from a flute
doesn't mean you can play me.
Even in the harshest of times,
this Storms will always weather it.
I used to question people for a living.
Now, I just do it for fun.
Like the properties I represent,
I know my worth.
When you live your life on a green,
envy is just par for the course.
People bend over backwards to get me,
and their form is terrible.
The only thing stuck-up about me
is my middle finger.
Honey.
Yeah?
By the way, Terry, can you pick out our house from here?
Yeah, it's like right--
Like in that-- or is that Drake's house?
Well, Drake's house is just up to the left.
But there's that, yeah.
You want to have our drinks out on the patio?
It's so pretty. - Yeah.
OK, let's go outside.
I got a call from Cassandra today.
She has someone that wants to lease the apartment.
But what are we going to do when we move out of the house?
I would love to live in the penthouse
while we're doing the construction on the house,
but it's only two bedrooms.
Ace and Kat are at ages where they need their own rooms.
I really don't want to rent the place out.
I've made, like, four gym friends down there.
It's literally the world's most expensive closet
at this point.
I don't even shower at that house.
I shower here. I get dressed here.
Let's be honest. This is where you poop.
I don't do that.
If one were to poop, it would be here.
If the magic were to happen, here's where it would happen.
So we played the flag football. I was the ref.
Did I tell you this?
This might not be right,
but I'm going to throw it in the air.
Whoever catches it gets the ball first.
Ready? - OK.
How can you be the ref when you don't
understand how football works?
Because I looked good in the shirt, and I had a whistle.
How are the girls?
Shannon and Tamra are completely avoiding each other.
Shannon and Alexis are completely avoiding each other.
Right.
Gina brought her friend Katie.
And I'm in a really good spot with everyone.
I have a totally different perspective.
In what way?
After you had the stroke, I'm not interested in nonsense.
We were at the Ivy.
He had a stroke in front of me
and then didn't realize it happened.
He was, like, crazy belligerent afterwards and not himself.
I'm really proud of how we're using
the stuff that happens to us in our lives
to try and help other people.
After talking so much in the press about Life360
and how it saved Terry's life,
they reached out to me
and wanted to do a collaboration.
My husband had a stroke,
and my son was smart enough to click on the app.
And that is how we saved his life.
And if it saves anyone else's life because I'm talking
about it, that's awesome.
I saved my husband's life, and all I got
was this crappy t-shirt.
No gift.
You got me.
Yay!
You got me and everything that that brings.
That's so exciting.
Huh.
When Terry had the stroke,
I didn't have time to break down.
So we went on a trip, and I walked down the beach,
and I bawled my - ing eyes out.
I think I'm still in shock, and I haven't processed it yet.
I will.
I have scheduled my breakdown for this weekend
while we're away.
And I just allowed myself to feel all the things
and have that moment.
And then as I walked back down the beach,
I started celebrating the "what was."
What a life we have, huh?
Thank God you're here to see it.
Yeah, I know.
Although, I'll bet the guy you'd
be seeing this-- if I didn't make it,
he'd be a lot better looking. - He'd be taller?
♪ Oh, yeah
Nothing like going out in the rain.
Welcome to the party!
Whoo-whoo!
Did you bring an extra outfit in case you get wild
and throw up on yourself?
Yes.
I just want a good core of girls
to go to a little dive bar.
And, obviously, I'm not going to invite Shannon
because I just want a fun night.
We should get together and take Gina out
because I know she's been kind of depressed
about the whole thing with Travis.
Yeah.
We're going to get Katie because she lives on the way.
Close.
♪ Oh, yeah
I can pee at Katie's, right?
Wait. Should we all pee?
Because, I mean, I kind of have to pee.
I'll wait.
Can I just pee in a bush?
Mm-hmm.
Can you stand in front?
I am standing in front.
Whoa.
Don't make me fall in your pee!
I don't want to pee in Katie's house
because then I would have to go inside,
and I would have to meet her husband.
I'm going to pee my pants.
Hi.
Hi, Matt.
And I just don't have time for that.
It's a girls' night out.
OK. - OK, did you get it?
Did you shake it?
I want to, like, streamline this, get in the bus,
and get to the location.
Oh!
Oh, !
Did you fall?
You're an asshole.
Oh, my God.
I'm so happy we're doing this.
I know. I can't wait.
Act like nothing happened.
Oh, my God. I feel so much better.
Hi.
- Hi, hi. - We're all in black.
Oh, my God. We're like the mafia.
I'm freezing.
Freezing, freezing, freezing.
Hey!
OK.
Guys, I'm walking here.
I need an espresso martini.
Yeah, but I don't want any mucus.
- OK, loogie free. - We're not at Heather's.
We're good. - I know!
What is that?
This could be like a really fun, like, "Coyote Ugly."
I love "Coyote Ugly."
Are you going to kick us off if we get on the bar?
I'll turn-- I'll turn a blind eye.
Oh, God. These are really full.
OK, cheers. - Cheers.
Girls' night out.
- Whoo-hoo! - Cheers.
Hey, Katie.
Ugh. Oh, God.
I'm going to spill it all over myself.
OK, wait. I have to tell you guys.
So I had lunch with Katie the other day, and--
- Oh, God. - Are you listening?
When Heather did the paparazzi photos,
Katie has more information about that whole situation.
There was, like, a little bit of bad press
around Heather and Terry.
I texted it to my friend.
He's in charge of all these paparazzi photographers.
I said, is this true?
Did she hire photographers to come take a photo of her?
He said, yes.
She gonna get herself in trouble.
Oh, this is exciting.
You said that she hired paparazzi.
Oh, you're talking about Disneyland?
Yes, Disneyland.
Last year, she was dead-set on, it's a lie.
Teddi Mellencamp went in hard
about your staged paparazzi pictures.
I'm not going to give light to it.
It's not true.
She yelled at me and she yelled at Emily.
Are you literally accusing me of this?
No, it's suspicious.
Think whatever you want, Tamra.
So you're telling me she alerted the paparazzi
that she was going to be at Disneyland?
And now here comes Katie, a little gift from God.
I mean, it makes me feel a little vindicated.
I'm not going to lie.
Do you have proof of that? - I have a screenshot of it.
You have proof that Heather Dubrow
alerted the paparazzi that she was going to be at Disneyland?
I saw this in the press.
So I screenshot that,
sent it to a dear friend of mine and Matt's.
Who is in charge of all paparazzi.
I mean, this guy is on speed dial for Kim Kardashian.
And Heather Dubrow too?
She has his information.
I'm like--
She denied it.
So she lied to all of us.
Are you saying anything to her?
She sent me this sh--, and I told her,
don't ever bring this up.
Who did you send it to?
And I didn't even tell you. And I was so proud of myself.
Because she's so protective of Heather.
Yeah, who cares?
Heather is going to care.
So I thought it was really silly and stupid, and I'm like,
I heard that she denied it.
And I was like, why don't you just own it?
Like, who cares?
Heather does not like surprises.
She does not like to be called a liar.
I got to pee again.
I got to pee.
Bye, Katie.
Nice knowing ya.
She tagged me in her birthday photo.
I saw that!
- It could have been a mistake. - It was.
It was. I think it was nothing.
Wait a minute. Does she follow you?
No.
No, it was an accident, but she clearly was looking up Katie.
I definitely do not think it was an accident
that Heather tagged me 12 hours after
she posted her birthday post.
When I asked her if she meant to tag me in her Instagram...
I woke up one morning, and I was tagged
in your birthday post.
She acted surprised. - Oh, my God.
That's so weird. - Yeah.
She said, oh, I don't even know how to tag people.
I have a social media person,
so I haven't been doing my own posting.
I was wearing a Givenchy dress.
So the G-I, when Julia was typing it in,
"Ginella" must have popped up.
First, I'm going to follow you.
And then I'm going to untag you.
And when you're caught, why don't you just own it?
When are we going to dance on the bar?
You can't just tag somebody you don't follow.
You have to write their name out.
Hey! - Are you ready for this?
We're ready.
I'm going to let you live out your "Coyote Ugly" fantasy.
Are you ready? - I'm ready!
Get the----ing bartender.
- Can I go with you? - Yes.
Do we have music?
Oh, my God.
Whoo!
Let's do shots.
Gina!
- Shots! Shots! - Shots! Shots! Shots!
I mean, maybe it's the '80s coming out in me,
but who doesn't want to be in a Whitesnake video?
I don't put my vag in people's faces,
unless it's Matt.
What the ?
I've definitely put in some quality work on the bar.
Whoo!
I'm retired, and I'm happy about that.
I'm sticky as .
I am drenched.
This whole thing with Katie, I don't know what to do.
What about?
Well, I feel bad that
everybody knows about this Heather situation.
Katie needs to eat some----ing Wheaties.
Yeah.
She needs to drink a protein shake.
- OK. - She needs to, like, focus.
I love you.
♪ It's a brand-new start, I can see the sun ♪
♪ Now we're having fun
Archie, what are you doing?
You sleeping?
Archie, what's all this red on the floor?
Did you step in something red?
Hello.
Hi, Archie. Hi.
We have so much to catch up on.
I have a staph infection.
- It's a staph infection? - Mm-hmm.
The doctor didn't want me to leave the hospital,
and I checked myself out
because I said I'm very, very busy.
Do you want to see it in the bathroom?
- Why? - It's gross.
If I go like and this, just yellow pus comes out of me.
And he goes, how's your vagina?
The doctor--I'm like, my vagina is perfect.
Is it coming out of there? I'm like, no.
Jeez, Vicki.
Just stay healthy.
God's way of telling you to slow down.
Oh, I'm going full-speed.
I don't want to be slowing down because then you're sedentary.
Then the grass is going to grow around you,
you're not going to be able to see through it.
I like being busy.
I'm a type-A girl.
I've got enough money to retire if I wanted to,
but what would I do?
We have a lot coming up.
What are we going to do about our show?
I've only had a very short conversation with Tamra.
I said, do you want to sit down?
She goes--
No, I actually don't.
- OK, I-- - I don't.
OK.
OK, then I don't want to talk to you either!
- So I said, fine. - Yeah.
Fine.
It's just that we finally had the show down, you know?
I know. And I think we can still do it.
We worked hard on it.
The Tres Amigas show was very fun.
Our first show, we sold out in, like, three days.
I'm excited about just you and me.
'Cause it'll be like Ethel and Louise
and Thelma and Louise and Ethel and Lucy
and Laverne and Shirley.
There was only two all the time anyways.
We sang. We danced.
We did skits.
We had audience participation, just kind of a variety show.
And I was excited about where we could go.
Tamra didn't have the balls to call me or Shannon
to tell us that she didn't want to be part of the show anymore.
She has vinegar running through her veins and a black heart.
Good riddance.
Should we call Paris and see how things are going?
Hello.
We miss you.
You too.
Let's talk about the show.
We're going to just say it's the Shannon-Vicki show
without the Tres Amigas.
Is there a lot of fallout
because Tamra is not a part of it anymore?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And she owes us for that, right?
This is a business.
It's a way to make additional income.
I've got three kids in college. I'm still single.
It was devastating to me.
I really am upset with her.
You don't do this in business.
We had an LLC. We had merchandise.
I'm pissed. - I think it'll be fine.
I do think you guys need to get your hustle on
promoting, though.
both: ♪ Just the two of us
- ♪ We're the Tres Ami-- - ♪ We're the Dos Ami--
- Oh! - ♪ Oh, Dos Amigas
- OK. - All right.
Well, thank you, Paris. Talk to you soon.
- Goodbye. - Thank you.
- Bye. - Bye.
So I'm putting my lipstick back on because it came off
when I was drinking all my 400 pills.
OK, well, I have to tell you something.
- What? - I got a letter
from a lawyer representing John Janssen
and that I owe him $75,000.
Oh, please. You owe John?
You paid for all the upgrades and all the flights,
all his clothing, all his boat paraphernalia.
And that--and that's only the stuff I know.
He's a jerk.
I just--what is he trying to do?
He doesn't work, right?
I don't know what his job status--status is.
I mean, I--
When you guys broke up, he wasn't working.
He's a bad guy.
Wasn't my place to say anything.
It was like somebody telling me
that Brooks wasn't good for me.
You don't have to do anything with him.
I didn't say bad things about Brooks.
I said, I don't think that he's good for you.
How do you know what's good for me?
That's my opinion!
We're not going to listen.
We got to find out ourself.
He's going to say, I owe him $75,000.
Do you know that if you go to court,
it will cost more than $75,000 to pay attorney's fees?
He knows how much I contribute to my kids.
That he would do this, it's unbelievable to me.
He's an asshole.
Sorry.
That really bothers me.
Yeah, he's trying to hurt me.
Ugh.
Can I ask you a question?
Why is that boob smaller than this boob?
What did you do? - Is it noticeable?
Yes, it looks like you have two oranges
in there that are lopsided.
♪ Oh, oh, oh
♪ Baby, just you and I
♪ Then to realize
Babe, do you want to grab suitcases
while you're down there? - I got 'em.
I'm trying to learn how to do this.
Does that look like an eyelash?
Like, it's on?
- Yeah. - Or is it distracting?
Like, is it her or a caterpillar?
More of a caterpillar.
We need to get to packing
because we need to leave in one hour.
Do you like this for the concert?
- I do. - You do?
I think it looks great.
It's going to look good on the side of my bed.
God.
I mean, it's Vegas.
So are we saying I can't post pictures in Vegas?
Why?
Because everybody will be judgy pants
because my broke ass is going to Vegas.
Yeah, but they're going to be judgy anyways.
You don't even let me pay for anything, ever.
Emily took another jab last night.
- Is that my coat? - Yeah.
Oh. You look like you have money.
- I--I don't. - I know.
Let's say if Emily fell in a hard spot,
I don't feel like people would be like,
oh, Emily's broke and she's going out of town.
If we were married, nobody would even think that.
I am constantly judged by the group
because I moved in with my boyfriend,
because my house is still big, and my car is still nice.
And they seem to want to criticize everything I do
and every penny I have or don't have.
Look, I will tell you this.
Bank accounts come and go,
but being rich in your soul and your spirit...
- Yeah. - Who you are as a person--
- Obviously, they come and go. - Yeah.
So I would say-- - So like what, let it go?
Yeah, let it go. These are her issues.
It doesn't feel good.
I just--it's just, you know, I just think I'm hyper--
a little bit sensitive to where I sit right now in life.
And to feel like I am not equivalent
to the women in my life pisses me off.
You're going through chaos right now.
I know. My head is so--
there's not a lot of space.
Yeah, I feel that on you.
The yoga studio opened in COVID,
so we worked out a modified rent
with our landlord at the time.
When a new landlord stepped in,
they served us with a lawsuit for back rent
that we did not pay during COVID.
You said that agreement you had with the previous landlord
was a verbal. - Yes.
Yeah, babe.
I mean, the new landlord, they're coming in.
They're going off of the last written contract.
We negotiated an amount,
and we are making payments for the back rent
that we owed during COVID.
I'm going to have to figure it out.
I want to have fun.
I don't want to think about the studio.
- You know what I'm ready for? - No.
Naked french fries.
- I can't wait. - OK.
Bathtub, naked french fries...
I'm getting in the shower.
And a Diet Coke tonight.
Hi.
Reservations for two for Ginella.
Hello. Right this way.
- Thank you. - Good spot.
Thank you. Yeah.
Welcome.
Hi.
Can I have a super dirty Grey Goose martini?
Can I just have beef enchiladas?
- Yeah. - Thank you.
Margarita on the rocks, just a little salt.
- You want a Cadillac? - Yeah.
- Perfect. - Thank you.
- Bye. - Thank you.
I've been up all day.
I know.
You got up at what time last night?
- 1:00. - What were you doing?
The podcast.
It's the only time I can get that all done.
The first time Matt and I met was like, damn, he is so hot.
I fell in love at first sight.
- Cheers. - Cheers.
Night away from the children.
Ooh, it's icy, just like how you make it.
But then he told me he would meet me out for dinner
with a big group of friends.
Exhausted, I had worked 14 hours that day, I got ready
and did my makeup, and he didn't show up.
I was like, screw this guy!
He was tired.
He had to get up at 3:00 a.m.
to do the morning show on Golf Channel.
What's this place called again?
Javier's. This is like a cougar den.
We just kept talking and I was going through divorce,
so he was really patient with me.
And then he was like, OK, I'll wait.
And he did.
I was trying to plan this golf event for the ladies.
I said, my husband's going to be there with
his swing coach having lessons.
So I was like, we can, like, get a couple tips.
I was thinking of hosting you girls at Monarch Beach.
Chipping, putting, driving on the driving range.
We'll have some cocktails.
We can call it... drinking and driving.
And Heather goes...
Should we come up with a different title
for the event, Katie? - Let's rework that.
We're going to-- let's work on that.
I think we need a rebrand.
Because Shannon just got a DUI.
Oh, Jesus.
So I was like, oh, sh--.
How about sipping and chipping?
You know, I put my foot in my mouth a lot,
but that was quite possibly the worst time.
And I was like, .
I'm getting hot.
That is embarrassing I just said that.
I haven't told you about Jenn. Oh, my God.
- You like Jenn, right? - Mm-hmm.
I shared with that group at the brunch how I was adopted.
She told me that she adopted one of her children.
- We adopted our youngest. - Oh, no way.
And so he's the nine-year-old.
And he'll say things sometimes like,
why don't I have skin like you? Or--
- I went through all that. - You did?
Oh, yeah.
You know, she wanted to know if he felt
different than the other kids.
And I said I don't know
because my parents didn't have any biological children.
I said, but you're a good mom for even wondering
and trying to make that-- - Totally.
You know? I think that's amazing.
My parents didn't ask anything like that.
My parents could have helped me dive into my culture
a little more than they did.
I absolutely think that they didn't want me
to feel different, and maybe that's why they didn't.
But growing up having no culture,
I definitely wanted my kids to know their background.
Because that's their roots. That's where their heart is.
But I mean, I think your parents did a great job
of just doing the best they can.
Yeah, that's all they knew.
Quite a circle of friends.
You know, just getting to know Orange County here.
Coming up...
I want you to have an opportunity to talk to her.
And I think that's the right thing for you to do.
Right.
But if you don't do that, I'm going to tell Heather.
♪ All the girls just wanna have some fun ♪
♪ Put it on the card
♪ Let's go break some hearts
- Hi. - This is for the kids.
Oh, my God. What?
You did not have to do that.
You look so cute.
Aw, thank you.
- Your house is so cute. - Thank you!
Hi.
Can I make you a cup of coffee?
- Actually, yes. - Yeah?
OK, good. - Holy cow, yes.
Today, I had a busy day, and then I had, like,
a meeting that I had to do on Zoom.
Yeah.
So everybody's at Travis's house.
Because you know that we-- oh, you know that we went--
yes, but it's good. We're good.
And he lives here?
- He lives up the road. - Good.
Literally up the road.
It's really weird to spend the night
in my house without Travis.
It's lonely.
Meatball, I'm glad you're here because there's
too much room in the bed.
I miss Travis.
It feels like we broke up.
And that feels sh---y.
So it's not great.
Yeah, let's go upstairs. Yeah.
I have a contractor coming over because my kids--
Sienna and Luca want to do, like, a split room.
And they want, like, a track to run with, like a curtain.
How cool is that?
I mean, in theory.
Yeah.
Now, I have to make this happen.
Hi. How are you?
Come on in.
I'm just looking through my mom's casita.
She moved out. - Oh, OK.
Yeah.
- Wait, what's this from? - From--well, the head--
From what?
The headboard used to be this way.
The bed used to be this way. - That's what it's from?
- That's what it's from. - Oh, my gosh.
David's been spending the night a lot lately.
The very first time we had sex was at Eddie's birthday party.
Happy birthday to me.
Do you want anything to drink?
Actually, do you have coffee?
I want to try one of those.
OK.
Can you mix espresso and THC?
So it's like--
Yeah, you might--oh, shoot.
You might not feel anything. - OK.
Let's go outside.
OK.
Yeah, it looks pretty out there.
I'll sit over here. This one looks wet.
How's your drink?
It's good.
But OK, so is TCH?
Is that what I said? - THC!
THC?
Is that pot?
Yep, the devil's lettuce.
Well, you're a devil bitch. So that makes sense.
I know, right?
I'm glad we're friends.
I'm glad we are too.
Cheers.
Cheers to that, you devil bitch.
I was shocked when Gina said that she had a little issue
with us being friends.
Because I feel like my best friend got stolen.
You stole my best friend. - What is this?
I want to be friends with everybody.
Oh, yeah.
I was too.
I don't really think it's that serious.
Well, she's been hanging out with Katie a lot.
What are we looking at?
This is my good friend's company called Malbon.
OK.
This is one of the dresses.
This is so nice.
OK.
I've never been accused of having a poker face.
And I'm almost hoping that Katie
can read my mind so that I don't have to wear this outfit.
I think Heather's going to like that dress.
Really?
And then here's the white one.
- Oh, I love that one. - Right.
OK.
I'd love to see you try it on.
- I'll try it on. - OK.
I'll try it on. OK.
Thank you for bringing this. - Of course.
This was so-- because, honestly,
it's one less thing I have to think about now, you know?
So thank you.
Well, Heather texted me, I heard
you're giving us clothing.
And I said, but you don't have to wear it.
I'm just--it's a gift.
Wait, can I talk to you about this?
Oh, God.
Well, I just wanted to talk about this paparazzi.
Oh, I love it.
Oh, it's so cute. - I know. I know.
OK, so what--what do you think about that situation
with Heather? - Yeah.
You know, I thought it was, like, silly.
I know that.
But she's not going to think that this is silly and light.
You know what bothers me?
Those photos
of Heather and Terry at Disneyland.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was adamant that she didn't do that.
I mean, I knew. I knew that they--
it was obviously staged.
Heather is with Terry, and he's, like, hugging her
like it's a prom pose.
You have to put your arm around me.
They're like, ah, a bird.
Oh, Mickey Mouse.
It's silly. - Wait.
You have to make one awkward face, though,
so it doesn't look like you set it up.
She loves her picture taken.
She loves to go to places like Craig's where
there's paparazzi outside.
But he said she's a lot.
Like, often.
And I think that's why she likes LA.
I think she thinks that's good for her career.
And that's fine.
A lot of--a lot of celebrities do that.
I personally don't give a sh--.
It was attached to some stupid rumor
about Heather and Terry.
But then beyond that, Tamra accused Heather
of staging those paparazzi photos.
And Heather got mad at Emily for not defending her
and obviously denied it.
So I just don't know what to do now in this situation,
but I just know that Heather's going to be pissed.
But I feel like when someone gets really mad like that,
they're guilty.
It's just funny when someone--
No, it's just funny when Heather Dubrow gets caught.
- Yes. - That's what it is.
That's what it is, right?
It's a little bit of vindication.
And it's also I would like for fancy pants
to actually get caught with her fancy pants
around her ankles for once.
Because I would just find that amusing.
I'm so glad I don't worry about sh-- like that.
That's why I like Big Bear.
There's no paparazzi there.
No, but I have a number you could call
if you would like to tell them that you'll be in Big Bear.
No, I'm good.
- OK, here's my perspective. - Yeah.
Yes. I thought it was silly.
And that's why I first told you before I
met any of these girls. - No, I know.
Yeah. - OK.
But now the newest thing, you know, I have a friend, Cynthia,
I just saw the other day for lunch.
And Heather's, like, new to this social circle she's in.
You know, I think she moved to LA.
I think that she's trying to--
You think she feels protective...
I do.
Of her LA group.
I do.
And Cynthia, like, posted a picture with Heather.
She went to a birthday party that Heather was invited to.
I saw her for lunch the other day, and she was like,
I went to this thing, and I walked in, and the first person
to beeline for me was Heather.
And she said, oh, hi, I'm Heather.
Nice to meet you.
How do you know Katie Ginella?
Like, wanted to know everything about me.
That was the only question she asked her,
and that's the only thing she wanted.
I do think a lot of weird things
have happened between Heather and I.
And I hope that when I approach Heather with this,
maybe we can move on.
Just talk to her.
I'm nervous now because everybody knows.
Yeah.
Like, because I'm friends with Heather,
I want you to have an opportunity to talk to her,
and I think that's the right thing for you to do.
Right.
But if you don't do that, I'ma tell Heather.
Coming up...
I saw in the press that you alerted paparazzi.
On the lives of my children,
I have never called a paparazzi.
Oh, sh--.
We usually don't put tanning stuff on with a white skirt.
This is not how we do it.
Oh, it's already uneven. Oh, no.
Oh, man.
You got stains on your ankles.
Isn't this pretty?
Yeah.
Hello! What's going on?
What he thought I should wear.
And he jumped on the bed.
I think he's going with pink.
Hi, Togo.
Jenn was in Vegas?
I don't--I don't even know what to say about that.
- Hi, honey. - Hi, honey.
Where are we?
We're sphering it.
Yeah, buddy.
Maybe instead of going to Vegas for the weekend,
you go to work, and you make a payment.
How much you want to bet that Jenn
paid for professional makeup for this golf thing?
Oh, I'm sure she is.
- Too expensive. - Yeah.
- Coffee's expensive. - Yeah.
♪ This is gonna be a late night ♪
♪ I'm cruising on the beach by the bay at night ♪
♪ Yeah, this way, this way, this way ♪
Thanks for being here with me for the craziness.
Thank you.
- What a beautiful day. - Good day for some golf.
Golf is traditionally very conservative.
Among other things, etiquette.
- I'm your caddie. - You're definitely my caddie.
This is good. I like you carrying my bags.
The balls they're talking about all the time
are not necessarily the balls that I talk about all the time.
I'm thinking golf balls.
They're thinking John Janssen's balls.
- Lyon. - I'm Katie.
Pleasure to meet you, Katie. How's everything?
Thanks for coming out.
- Thanks for having us. - Absolutely.
None of these girls play golf.
Oh, my God.
We're going to tune them up today.
Yes.
♪ Oh, yeah
These girls just need to know a good golf drink,
so maybe like a John Daly or transfusions.
OK, yeah, I have all that.
- You look so cute. - I do?
- Yes. - Oh, God.
Thank you. - You look perfect.
Listen, I have four children.
I have done my time at mini golf.
Happy golf.
- Enjoy the Dom. - Oh, my God.
Can we crack it?
Yes.
I like diamonds, champagne.
Golf is not my favorite pastime, to be honest.
And this is the prize for whoever wins.
OK, what's in there?
Prada sunglasses.
I love golf.
Well, you better be good at it today.
I'm not a golf person.
I'm excited about, like, the golf cart with, like, drinks.
Oh, my God. You look so cute.
- Hi. - Oh, my God.
Everyone's black and white but me.
What's up, girly? I like the bow.
How are you?
Adorable.
Hi.
Look how cute you look.
My plan has always been to be cordial to Shannon.
I can be your golf course friend.
OK.
I don't golf.
So being golf course friends means
we don't have to talk at all.
I have to pee.
Hey, Matt.
Are you OK? - Yeah, I'm OK.
OK.
I really need to catch up with you.
Yeah.
Emily and Shannon, this is Matt.
Matt, Shannon.
Nice to meet you.
Hi, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
I've heard amazing things about you.
Same.
It's just hard with the stuff with Trav, you know?
He moved out.
Yeah, I know.
It's up and down.
Last night was horrible, 'cause he's, like, basically,
like, breaking up with me. - Ugh.
And then--then, like, he was really, like, this is selfish.
I don't ever want you to be unhappy.
It's not fair to you.
I need to let you go.
Which makes you love him even more.
Right.
Where I was like, let's just let it settle.
Yeah.
You could break up with me three months from now.
Let's give it a little time.
Like, really, you know?
I do understand that this is my decision.
And I understand that this is something that I feel I need.
And I understand that that hurts Travis.
It's a lot of emotional up and down to go through
on a daily basis. - Yes.
I have to be right now, like, the mentally
stable, positive one in the relationship in order
to make this work.
- Hi, Matt. - Hi, Matt.
- Hi, nice to meet you. - Heather.
- How are you? - How are you?
- Here's a putter. - Thank you.
You know this is Katie's husband, right?
Hi.
So nice to meet you.
I did not know that.
Very nice to meet you.
I didn't know it either.
I thought he was a golf pro.
Well, you like--
Matt. Matt.
So it's a five-hole tournament.
Low score wins.
Oh, the lowest score?
Yeah, yeah.
The least amount of swings.
You'll bend at the waist over, right down.
And you see how--
That's what you do when you get a spray tan too.
Oh, is that right?
So we're going to make sure we have both hands on.
OK.
And we're just going to release
about, like, just like that.
That was terrible.
Just tap it, girl.
Look at you!
Oh!
That's BS!
This is a little bit of a lean.
I think I need to learn golf.
I'm single.
I'm clearly the retirement age now.
And...
Are you at out of your mind?
Isn't that what men do when they retire?
Here, putt it to my foot.
Stop!
Nice. Good, babe.
- I think I won. - Good, baby.
Knock that in. Come on. - I will.
You don't take the flag out? - Wait.
Where'd my ball go?
Matt, where'd my ball go?
That looks good, Shannon.
You do look like you know what you're doing.
Oh, this--oh.
That's great, Tamra.
Tamra, that was really good.
If we have a tie, we have a hole off, right?
A playoff.
- OK, whatever. - Yeah.
Yeah, that wasn't--
OK.
Everybody's really delivering what I thought they would.
Heather's predictably, like, dainty and gentle.
I'm not even good at mini golf.
Shannon's just, like, a mess.
Ugh!
Except for Katie, actually, because--
Ah.
I mean, like, she sucks.
Oh, sh--.
And she's from the golf world.
Like, doesn't she practice this?
See that line? You're aiming...
- I didn't ask you. - Way over here.
Look at the line of the putter.
Golf is kind of our passion, but I'm not good at it.
I try, and I put a lot of Koreans to shame.
I can't lose at my own event.
Good. Nice!
I am the best golfer. Yes.
Gina, if you two-putt this, you win.
Oh, well, no pressure.
This is so hard, guys. - This is the tie.
Oh!
Oh, man.
- We have Emily at 11. - Ugh!
You won.
I love winning. I feel like I win in life.
So why should I not win at putt-putt?
- Whoa! - Oh, I love those.
You might want to take that tag off, though.
No, I'm going to leave it on.
Normally, I would be stoked that Emily
is so athletic and so good,
but she's not been very nice to me.
So why the hell does she have to keep winning everything?
OK, let's eat.
Come on.
This is so nice, Katie.
Heather, I've heard that you love hot dogs.
- I do. - So we have a hot dog bar.
- Oh, I love a hot dog. - Yes.
What a better way to show her I am not a threat
than to serve the thing she loves the most?
I do love hot dogs, though, especially pigs in the blanket.
Oh, my God.
I'm trying to think if I'm going to tell Heather.
Oh, no. How?
I just think she should know.
I'm going to grab my drink.
Hold on.
What's the story over here?
The ? Are you guys ever gonna talk?
I mean, what's this? What?
It's so----ing weird.
Can I have no avocado?
- You don't like avocado? - That's yours.
I'm eating this right now.
- You want avocado? - What?
We went out the other night.
Katie had said some things about you
that are a little concerning.
She says that you call the paparazzi,
and you tell them where you're at all the time.
And she has proof of it. - Good. Bring the proof.
I asked her for the proof.
She did not show me the proof.
Yeah, because I've never done that.
Does Shannon know about
anything with girls' night the other night?
Um, basically, you know, I didn't know this was
an issue last year for you girls.
What was an issue?
Heather and the paparazzi photos.
- Oh, at the Disneyland? - Yeah.
A friend of mine runs all the paparazzi photos.
She called my friend and said, I'm going to be here.
On top of some other things that have been going on,
I'm kind of like, you know, are you telling the truth?
Are you not telling the truth?
You mean the tagging of the photos?
And that's just one of a few.
She reached out to a couple of my friends to get info on me.
She did that to me when I became a part of this group,
too. - Yeah.
And it's like, I'm just--
I mean, I don't--
I'm not threatening to anybody.
Just go up and say, can I talk to you for a minute?
Go put it to rest, and good luck with that.
Oh, God.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace?
Well, we just hope you come back.
Katie, today will be a big learning lesson.
Let's go.
Hi. How are you?
Can I talk to Heather for just a second?
Do you guys mind? - Yeah, sure.
Go ahead.
- Hi. - Hey.
I wanted to talk because I feel
like there's, like, this weird looming thing
between you and I.
Well, we didn't have a weird looming thing,
except all I know is that you're talking to all
my friends about me and saying that I'm calling the paparazzi,
and you have all this proof,
and I'm talking to people about you.
And there's a lot of untruths here.
Is there food over here?
I just heard about the paparazzi.
I just told Heather, and--
Oh, you told her?
It came up the other night on our girls' night.
You know, it started with Sutton's Christmas party.
Gina had told me that she called you and Terry.
You guys kind of, like, went through me
and Matt's Instagram. - Going through?
Like, looked at it.
And so we saw you at Sutton's Christmas party.
You turned around, and you stared at Matt and I.
And then you turned back around.
Oh, my God. You expected me to see you in a line
after looking at your Instagram and recognize you?
- Like, you legit saw us. - I have no recollection.
And even my husband remembers that.
Then you go to two of my friends that live in LA,
and you're trying to get information on me.
Well, you are wrong.
I have been nothing but nice to Katie.
I barely know her.
She's like, not even a blip on my radar.
Yeah, I came into this group, like I know you lied.
I saw in the press that you alerted paparazzi.
My dear friend runs the paparazzi photos
for all publications.
Show me the proof, Katie.
I have a screenshot of the text.
Great.
I'm going to tell you something.
OK.
I have never called paparazzi in my life.
You never alerted them?
No, I have never done that.
So he lied?
I don't know who you're talking about.
- Shoot. - Wait.
You guys, why did you tell her?
Well, how long does this have to go on?
Because I felt like she needed to know.
On the lives of my children,
I have never called a paparazzi.
Oh, sh--.
I am telling the truth.
I have no reason to scream and yell
because I have facts and a receipt.
If I have him pull up that you called him--
There's apps that can make that happen.
Do you think-- - Heather.
You think he would do that?
This is literally exactly what I didn't want to happen.
And I feel, at this point, I should just duck and cover.
Just so you know--
He's not even on social media
because he doesn't want to be known for doing this job.
Katie, I have no worries in my body about this at all.
At all.
Listen, I didn't think you would have a worry.
I thought it was silly that you would do this.
And coming into this group, I knew you lied.
- Stop saying the word lie. - OK.
Because I didn't lie.
Should we just all collectively--
this is just not a good situation.
When you come into a friend group...
Mm-hmm.
What would be really great
is to make friends and just try to meet people
and understand them...
I'm good.
For who they are.
I was literally going to them like, hey, I know this.
What do I do?
I will say, Katie has never gone after your character.
But you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Like, that's what bothers me.
The things that Katie is accusing me of
are the things she's doing.
I'm not digging up things on Katie.
Katie is digging up things on me.
I wanted to see if there's anything that you
have harboring against me.
- I don't even know you, Katie. - Correct.
But now I don't know that I want to.
OK, well, that's your choice.
I don't call the paparazzi.
Katie has him by first name on a text message.
This girl is obsessed with me. It's crazy.
So now what?
This has been a lovely day.
Enjoy the Dom.
I'm so glad that all my friends are friends.
I got to get all the bags.
I got gift bags.
I don't know if Heather will take mine,
but I'll give it to her.
All right, well, I'm going to go meet Terry for dinner.
This is Jenn.
- Thanks for the putting. - OK. Thank you.
It was very nice meeting you.
Thank you for coming, and thank you for the Dom.
- You're welcome. - Thank you.
OK, bye, honey. I will see you and talk to you.
OK.
I'll take my Dom and go.
That was dumb.
Next time on "The Real Housewives of Orange County."
Did you get it open?
These people are gonna see it.
Wait, do you have those clothes?
I'll wear it later.
Did Heather Dubrow call paps?
And he said, yes.
I think we'll be going to Katie's funeral pretty soon.
- I----ed up. - You----ed up.
I----ed up, and I'm sorry.
I couldn't drink in my program.
You need to stop.
Lie, lie!
You owe John $75,000?
Un----ing-believable.
ing monster.
You have no idea about John Janssen.