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Previously, on The Real
Housewives of Orange County.
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Welcome to Big Bear, girls!
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[screaming]
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Oh, my God!
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I thought it would be fun
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if we go out to La Quinta.
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- Hi!
- Hi.
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Gina, welcome to your house.
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- Sh--.
- [shouting]
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Are you----ing kidding me?
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- I have to ask you.
- What is it?
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The paparazzi of it all.
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Gina knew it would not be funny.
You got set up.
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She told you girls,
apparently, that
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she called me ten minutes later
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and said, don't say it,
that's not what happened.
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You're gonna believe
that girl over me?
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You believed her over me.
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I'm going to try
and move past this.
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Gina said that you were
so far up Tamra's ass.
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What the [bleep]
is up with Emily?
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She's lodged up Tamra's ass.
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You said that I'm mean,
that I've changed.
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If we're supposed
to be best friends,
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why are
you telling everyone else?
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I got a letter from a lawyer
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representing John Jansen,
and that I owe him $75,000.
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You know,
I'll bring the receipts.
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Why does Shannon owe money?
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A facelift and a loan.
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I don't want to go to battle.
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You paid for everything.
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There are a lot of lies that
have been spoken about John,
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and they're gonna be cleared up.
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Johnny's ready to talk.
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He has videos of her
at the night of her DUI.
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♪
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Just because
I drink from a flute,
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doesn't mean you can play me.
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Even in the harshest of times,
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this Storms
will always weather it.
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I used to question
people for a living,
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now I just do it for fun.
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Like the properties I represent,
I know my worth.
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When you live your life
on the green,
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envy is just par for the course.
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People bend over backwards
to get me,
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and their form is terrible.
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The only thing stuck up
about me is my middle finger.
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[upbeat music]
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I'm just gonna
put that out there.
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Oh, my God.
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[music cuts out]
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Okay...
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♪
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[coffee machine whirring]
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Chatty Catty's over here.
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- Oh, sorry.
- Good morning.
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I know.
We couldn't sleep.
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We laughed, we cried,
we talked sh--.
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So there was just...
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- a lot going down.
- All of it.
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But we laughed,
is the most important thing.
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We laughed.
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Oh, my God!
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Oh god!
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Don't be a prude.
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You're banging four times
a day over there.
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[laughing]
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Your vag needed
a break tonight.
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It's good you're here.
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I really like Katie.
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- I like Katie too.
- I really like her.
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She's a good girl.
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How are we gonna convince
Heather to like her?
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Heather's a hardhead.
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- Is she?
- Yes, she's a hardhead.
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Love a good hatchet, right?
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I lost my coffee.
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No, over there.
That's yours over there.
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There's something unresolved
and brewing between Emily and I.
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And it's honestly like the most
uncomfortable feeling for me.
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Like I hate it.
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I know how reactionary I am.
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And if I say something
immediately,
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it'll just be mean
and aggressive,
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which is what
she's accused me of being.
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So I'm trying to, like,
think about it before I speak.
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Do not touch this.
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I have taken my hand
and not thought
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and went like this
and burned the entire hand.
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Oh, yeah.
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Are you allowed to
put that on the countertop?
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Sure, why not?
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I don't know.
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- Shannon!
- I just did it.
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That was so bozozo.
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- Guys.
- Yeah?
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This smells good.
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In the morning, are you
a Red Bull over coffee?
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You know,
I don't know what's going on.
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I might even be premenopausal.
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I'm on my period a lot,
and I'm off,
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and I don't have
a period for two months.
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Some of it might
be stress from my mom.
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I don't know.
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The question was,
you're a Red Bull
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instead of coffee,
and then it went into menopause.
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Oh, no, that's what I'm saying.
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It's like I used to love coffee
for the past two months.
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I don't. Sorry.
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What the [bleep]
is happening, Alexis?
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Do you drink Red Bull or coffee?
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What's happening
with your period?
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Okay. Okay. Yeah.
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You know the best thing
about being with Alexis
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is that you don't ever
have to have
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any kind of thought
about your conversation.
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She just has something
to say all the time.
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Don't ask her
any more questions!
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Cheers, everyone.
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- Cheers.
- Look at all this.
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Look at how beautiful
it is out today.
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I know.
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This has been really fun,
you guys.
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I mean, I thought we were gonna
have fun at the golf event,
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but I didn't have that much fun,
and then...
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that last dinner
sort of went south.
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I had zero intention
to bring our friend group
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into the fact
that John Jansen
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is threatening to sue me,
saying that I owe him money.
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I will tell you,
just from the beginning, though,
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from an optic standpoint...
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- Didn't look good for you.
- It didn't look good for you.
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And that's upsetting to me, too.
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And it honestly,
let me just finish,
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it made you look like
you had been dishonest
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about the relationship.
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Do I have stacks of
my credit cards
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and canceled checks that prove
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and show that I paid for stuff?
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- We believe you.
- It's insane, you guys.
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Shannon's always said
she paid for every single thing.
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He never paid for
a plane ticket.
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He never paid for a meal.
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Here's the problem.
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The whole basis
of why Shannon's been upset
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all these years is,
was he really committed to her
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if he couldn't
even pick up a meal?
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We know that you were paying
for a bunch of stuff
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at the beginning,
but we didn't know that
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that was his attempt
to reimburse you, right?
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- Now, he's been...
- That was my understanding.
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Right, I understand that.
But nobody knew that.
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None of us knew that.
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This is why you always have
to wait to hear the defense,
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because the prosecution
tells a very good story.
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Shannon is the prosecution.
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I just want
to give you an example.
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It was his oldest
daughter's birthday,
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and I thought,
let's go on our family vacation.
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We went up to Los Angeles.
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I paid for four rooms
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at the London Hotel
for the weekend.
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That trip's close to 10 grand.
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That's how generous I was,
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and he's telling me
that I owe him money?
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Were you trying to
buy the relationship?
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Were you trying to buy his love?
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She just was in love.
She was in love.
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- And I enjoyed doing that.
- And she wanted the family.
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She wanted it all.
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You know when you're in
a relationship with someone,
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it feels like it's
all in the same pot.
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Yeah. And, you know, men's egos
are attached to their wives,
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so I wasn't going to
confront him, you know?
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I just thought, I'm good.
I'll just pay for it.
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Can't you force, like,
mediation or something?
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I am already paying
my attorney to deal with this.
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Maybe you just
cut out the attorney
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and just send him an offer
and say, I'll give you 30 grand.
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I don't want to!
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I'm telling you,
like, out of principle,
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I don't want--
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like, I don't want
to give him a dollar.
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I feel bad.
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It's just such a freaking
slap in the face to me.
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I'm really sorry that
you're going through this.
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Oh, Shannon,
I feel so bad for you.
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We support you,
and you will figure it out.
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And whatever you need, we
will be there for you, Shannon.
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And your mental health
is worth more.
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- More than anything.
- Yes.
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You don't understand
how overwhelmed I am
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with love right now.
Like, you guys are so kind.
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And that's why I feel
like I don't deserve it.
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- I'm so grateful.
- No, you do. We all do.
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I'm so grateful.
I really am.
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Don't cry, don't cry.
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- Don't cry.
- Don't cry, don't...
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Don't cry.
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Sorry, you guys.
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Don't cry.
It's gonna be okay.
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I have been going through
so much in my head
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and living by myself,
and I would have,
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in the past, confided in Tamra
for most of it.
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So the outpouring
of support and kindness
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that I'm getting right now,
I didn't expect this.
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I just want her to do
whatever it takes
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to get him
the [bleep] out of her life.
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- I know.
- I'll write a check to him.
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This is what I have.
I want you to sign it.
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Shannon, go----ing choke
on this Beador.
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Coming up.
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That's fine.
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- No, everybody, [bleep]--
- No, it's true.
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No, because you're mad at me.
She's mad at me,
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she's mad at me,
she's mad,
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Travis is mad at me.
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Everybody's----ing mad at me.
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[laidback instrumental]
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I want to play pickleball.
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Let's go--
let's go change.
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Come on.
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Heather. Heather.
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Heather doesn't take her plate.
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- Of course she doesn't.
- Of course she doesn't.
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- Last night was fun.
- It was so fun.
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You guys, yesterday
all day was fun.
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Even the car ride.
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We formed a Bible study
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and established
an OnlyFans page.
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Now take the shoulders off
and show the boobies.
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I'm trying to make you
- ing money!
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I am your manager.
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Yeah, that's good.
That's good. That's good.
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Shake that tail.
Shake that tail.
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Furries are gonna love this.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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I'll be her first customer,
but I want 15%.
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Jen, did you ever get
any resolve about Will?
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This is Will's day
with the kids.
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He has to pick up from school.
He's always late.
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But he got Gray
to volleyball last night
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and took the kids to dinner.
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Everything gets worked out.
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It's just that I wish Will and I
and Laura could sit down and go,
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Hey, we got
these nine kids between us.
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Laura, text me.
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Will and Laura have been
together now
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for three years, I think.
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Laura was a friend of mine,
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and she was my interior designer
when we were married.
254
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When I found out that my husband
was dating one of my friends,
255
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I lost my mind.
256
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I was taking Grayson
to school,
257
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and I saw Laura
that morning sitting in her car.
258
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I rolled the window down,
259
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and I was like,
da-da-da-da-da-da.
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And then after I got my cool,
I was thinking,
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It's Laura, and you love her.
262
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Why can't we just communicate
263
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so it doesn't have
to be like hellfire?
264
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Yes.
265
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I wish we could all
let pain and hurt go,
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because at the very least,
we could co-parent
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all these kids way better
than we're doing.
268
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Where is Will living,
with Laura?
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So he has an apartment.
270
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But, like,
the kids had family dinner
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over at Laura's the other night,
and they played games, and...
272
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Did you see it?
273
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On his Instagram.
274
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Well, I'm blocked on Instagram.
I don't see anything.
275
00:10:40,770 --> 00:10:43,207
I'm not. I will be now.
276
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[children chattering]
277
00:10:48,996 --> 00:10:50,214
Wow.
278
00:10:50,998 --> 00:10:52,913
You're getting emotional,
though, right now.
279
00:10:52,913 --> 00:10:54,479
- I know.
- What are you feeling?
280
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I know, but what are
you feeling right now, babe?
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It's just been
so long and so much,
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and it's just, you know,
it's like you're supposed
283
00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:03,053
to get divorced
and hate this person,
284
00:11:03,053 --> 00:11:04,489
but I don't hate him.
285
00:11:04,489 --> 00:11:07,014
I did love my husband a lot,
286
00:11:07,014 --> 00:11:09,712
and it's so sad to me,
287
00:11:09,712 --> 00:11:13,194
because in this video, Will's,
like, big and full of life,
288
00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:16,458
and that's not how
he was with me.
289
00:11:16,458 --> 00:11:19,940
And that's
a hard pill to swallow.
290
00:11:19,940 --> 00:11:21,332
If you found someone,
291
00:11:21,332 --> 00:11:23,247
and she's everything
I never was,
292
00:11:23,247 --> 00:11:25,510
why can't you let me in
a little bit
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and just be a co-parent
to you with these kids?
294
00:11:28,818 --> 00:11:30,341
I feel the exact same way.
295
00:11:30,341 --> 00:11:32,866
Like, I've been in
your shoes at this point.
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00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:35,129
I said to Jim,
we are going to be at
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every big monumental
moment in the life.
298
00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,003
Like, at some point, you have
to have a conversation with him.
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When you see...
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00:11:42,789 --> 00:11:44,529
like, him and the kids,
301
00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:46,793
and it's just them,
and you're not in that picture,
302
00:11:46,793 --> 00:11:48,533
like, does that hurt you?
303
00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:50,361
Like, you've just been erased,
like, that was your family,
304
00:11:50,361 --> 00:11:52,189
and all of a sudden,
like, you've been cut off.
305
00:11:52,189 --> 00:11:53,713
Yeah, I think
that's the hard part.
306
00:11:54,061 --> 00:11:57,020
After my divorce,
I lost my daughter.
307
00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:58,543
I don't understand, God,
308
00:11:58,543 --> 00:12:01,372
because why would you take
my child away from me?
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00:12:01,372 --> 00:12:03,287
I'm gonna be
your strength right now.
310
00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:05,202
God, please,
just lift Tamra up right now
311
00:12:05,202 --> 00:12:08,902
and just fill her with
all of your love and your peace.
312
00:12:08,902 --> 00:12:10,730
The last time
I saw Sydney was at
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Sophia's graduation last year.
314
00:12:12,383 --> 00:12:15,038
It was so nice
to just talk to her.
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And then I thought,
oh, my God, here we are,
316
00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:18,215
we're on the up and up.
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00:12:18,215 --> 00:12:20,652
And... no.
318
00:12:20,652 --> 00:12:22,611
I-- I would text her afterwards,
319
00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:25,570
and she just wouldn't
return my text messages.
320
00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:27,224
Well, thank you for sharing.
321
00:12:27,790 --> 00:12:29,009
Oh...
322
00:12:30,837 --> 00:12:33,665
Here we go again. I'm sorry,
eat your----ing sausage.
323
00:12:33,665 --> 00:12:37,234
[upbeat instrumental]
324
00:12:42,283 --> 00:12:44,067
Are we playing pickleball?
325
00:12:44,067 --> 00:12:45,939
I don't know if I've
ever played pickleball.
326
00:12:45,939 --> 00:12:47,984
Oh, my God, it's so fun.
I love it.
327
00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:49,899
I'm more of
a tennis kind of girl, but.
328
00:12:49,899 --> 00:12:51,596
Where are you supposed
to just be in this?
329
00:12:51,596 --> 00:12:53,294
It's the little court.
The little court.
330
00:12:53,294 --> 00:12:54,425
The little court?
331
00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:55,992
- Yeah.
- And then what, you just...
332
00:12:55,992 --> 00:12:57,602
You know what,
there's a lot of rules,
333
00:12:57,602 --> 00:13:00,127
but I've only done it--
I only do it with a trainer.
334
00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:03,130
- Oh.
- [laughing]
335
00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:05,828
[groaning]
336
00:13:05,828 --> 00:13:07,699
Oh, I gotta run a lot.
337
00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:09,614
[shouting]
338
00:13:09,614 --> 00:13:11,399
I guess all the hours
that Emily spends at the gym
339
00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:15,098
doesn't quite translate
into athleticism.
340
00:13:16,665 --> 00:13:19,450
- Let's go play pickleball.
- Your eyelashes look good.
341
00:13:19,450 --> 00:13:22,932
Okay, I couldn't even see
in the mirror to do them.
342
00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:25,805
- Let me see.
- Well, full disclosure...
343
00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:27,284
I can't see.
344
00:13:27,284 --> 00:13:29,547
That is why I like
hanging out with older people.
345
00:13:29,547 --> 00:13:30,940
Because we can't see.
346
00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:33,290
I want to talk to you.
347
00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:34,204
No.
348
00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:35,684
- Yes.
- [bleep] off.
349
00:13:35,684 --> 00:13:37,381
I know, but I do.
350
00:13:37,381 --> 00:13:40,384
I just want to talk to you
because I don't want anything--
351
00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:42,560
I don't want us
to have any problems ever.
352
00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:44,867
And last night
you were clearly upset with me.
353
00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:47,000
- Yeah.
- And I don't like it.
354
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,220
Well, I don't like
things that I've heard.
355
00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:53,397
Jen said to me
that you were saying,
356
00:13:53,397 --> 00:13:55,225
Heather says,
how high does she jump?
357
00:13:55,225 --> 00:13:57,358
- I didn't say that.
- And I jump that high, right?
358
00:13:57,358 --> 00:13:59,012
But I said something
to that extent.
359
00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:00,709
That's fine,
but then you said that,
360
00:14:00,709 --> 00:14:02,319
and then that pissed me off,
and I did, was reactionary.
361
00:14:02,319 --> 00:14:05,366
Well, how was I--
What was I supposed to think
362
00:14:05,366 --> 00:14:07,324
when one minute you're like,
363
00:14:07,324 --> 00:14:08,978
I love Katie.
I love Katie. Katie's great.
364
00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:10,414
Everybody meet Katie.
I love Katie.
365
00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:12,025
And then the minute
you have a sit down
366
00:14:12,025 --> 00:14:13,896
with Heather Dubrow,
367
00:14:13,896 --> 00:14:15,593
right after that,
you----ing hate Katie
368
00:14:15,593 --> 00:14:16,986
and she's dead to you.
369
00:14:16,986 --> 00:14:18,901
This----ing girl
that I thought was my friend
370
00:14:18,901 --> 00:14:21,948
that I've known for 10 minutes
now attacking my other friend
371
00:14:21,948 --> 00:14:23,514
that I've known for years.
372
00:14:23,514 --> 00:14:25,777
If that's the way it is,
then----ing goodbye, Katie.
373
00:14:25,777 --> 00:14:29,085
Okay, I was not present
when Gina and Heather
374
00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:31,958
had a conversation,
but I can imagine it.
375
00:14:31,958 --> 00:14:33,960
Heather is the Godfather.
376
00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:36,876
And she has her rings out.
377
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:39,400
And everyone must kiss them
when they enter the room.
378
00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,317
And then Gina falls to her knees
and lays on the sword.
379
00:14:43,317 --> 00:14:45,232
I raised my voice in your home.
380
00:14:45,232 --> 00:14:46,842
I am really sorry.
381
00:14:46,842 --> 00:14:50,890
And then Heather still
does not accept her apology.
382
00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:54,806
You let her manipulate you.
You worry about what she thinks.
383
00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:56,765
- Listen to me.
- You're so far up her ass.
384
00:14:56,765 --> 00:14:58,898
I do worry about what
she thinks. No I'm not.
385
00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:00,203
Yes, you are.
386
00:15:00,203 --> 00:15:01,683
You're up Tamra's ass,
first of all.
387
00:15:01,683 --> 00:15:03,119
How? Tamra doesn't
tell me what to do, ever.
388
00:15:03,119 --> 00:15:04,947
I just think,
in all honesty, Emily,
389
00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:06,557
this is really just about,
390
00:15:06,557 --> 00:15:08,908
and I know you're working on it, right?
391
00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,387
And I get that.
392
00:15:10,387 --> 00:15:14,391
I don't want to see you
be the grand bitch.
393
00:15:14,391 --> 00:15:16,785
I'm not selling my watch.
I love my watch.
394
00:15:16,785 --> 00:15:18,526
You're so----ing stupid.
395
00:15:19,353 --> 00:15:21,485
You've been aggressive
since the day you met me.
396
00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:23,226
I think that we need
to work on that.
397
00:15:23,226 --> 00:15:25,228
- That's all I'm saying.
- And I'm 48 years old.
398
00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:26,751
What do
you want me to----ing do?
399
00:15:26,751 --> 00:15:28,275
You and Tamra do this thing
where you're like,
400
00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:29,929
I'm an asshole,
no, I'm a bigger asshole.
401
00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:31,669
High five.
Like, that's not cool.
402
00:15:31,669 --> 00:15:33,933
Okay, well Heather's
like, "Get on your knees,"
403
00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:35,369
and you're like,
"Okay, Heather."
404
00:15:35,369 --> 00:15:37,197
- That's not true, though.
- It is true.
405
00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:39,547
Fine, that's fine.
If you want to say I'm a pussy
406
00:15:39,547 --> 00:15:41,201
and I have a problem
with Heather, that's fine.
407
00:15:41,201 --> 00:15:42,637
I don't think
you're a pussy though.
408
00:15:42,637 --> 00:15:44,204
That's the difference.
I don't think that.
409
00:15:44,204 --> 00:15:46,075
I think with her
you act like that.
410
00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:48,077
Why are you getting
so aggressive at me?
411
00:15:48,077 --> 00:15:49,949
I'm not being aggressive.
I have a weapon.
412
00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:51,820
I have not even used it.
413
00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:54,257
I don't know.
Everybody----ing hates me.
414
00:15:54,257 --> 00:15:55,606
That's fine.
No, everybody [bleep]--
415
00:15:55,606 --> 00:15:57,173
- I'm not saying that.
- No, it's true.
416
00:15:57,173 --> 00:15:58,305
No, because you're mad at me.
417
00:15:58,305 --> 00:15:59,610
She's mad at me,
she's mad at me.
418
00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:01,438
She's mad at me,
Travis is mad at me.
419
00:16:01,438 --> 00:16:02,874
Everybody's----ing mad at me.
420
00:16:02,874 --> 00:16:05,399
The----ing sprinklers are on.
421
00:16:06,139 --> 00:16:08,489
Like seriously, I'm over it.
422
00:16:15,713 --> 00:16:17,193
[upbeat instrumental]
423
00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:19,152
Everybody's----ing mad at me.
424
00:16:19,152 --> 00:16:21,241
The----ing
sprinklers are on.
425
00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:23,547
Like seriously, I'm over it.
426
00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:27,987
I can't even get in the house.
427
00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:30,859
[bleep].
Too many ways in and out.
428
00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:33,296
Ooh! Ah!
429
00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:35,168
Are you coming back?
430
00:16:35,168 --> 00:16:37,518
I can't-- I have to.
431
00:16:38,171 --> 00:16:39,781
- Wait, why--
- I can't get in!
432
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,523
- Listen.
- And I'm wet.
433
00:16:42,523 --> 00:16:44,307
- I don't want to go.
- No, listen, listen.
434
00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:46,527
- I don't want to deal with it.
- Okay. Calm down.
435
00:16:46,527 --> 00:16:48,877
- I'm going to hug you.
- [sighs]
436
00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,967
It hurts my feelings to hear
that you say things like that.
437
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:53,969
I'm----ing sorry.
438
00:16:53,969 --> 00:16:57,190
Or that you think less of me.
439
00:16:57,190 --> 00:16:59,366
I don't think
less of you, Emily.
440
00:16:59,366 --> 00:17:01,107
I think the most of you.
441
00:17:01,107 --> 00:17:03,239
Shannon, come here.
442
00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:06,112
[indistinct arguing]
443
00:17:06,112 --> 00:17:07,635
- What? What's going on?
- I don't know.
444
00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:09,376
I don't want
to go out there, though.
445
00:17:09,376 --> 00:17:11,378
You want me to come to you
and talk to you,
446
00:17:11,378 --> 00:17:12,553
and now look
at what's happening.
447
00:17:12,553 --> 00:17:14,076
This is what I'm talking about.
448
00:17:14,076 --> 00:17:16,122
I just feel like I can't
even approach you, you know?
449
00:17:16,122 --> 00:17:17,601
You can always approach me.
450
00:17:17,601 --> 00:17:19,560
I don't want to feel like
I'm tiptoeing around you.
451
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,344
I don't want to feel like I'm
walking on eggshells around you
452
00:17:21,344 --> 00:17:22,867
because I don't-- I can't--
453
00:17:22,867 --> 00:17:25,740
Because I just need you
in my life right now.
454
00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:28,569
I know you're going through
a lot, and I'm sorry about that.
455
00:17:28,569 --> 00:17:30,571
And I ask you all the time.
456
00:17:30,571 --> 00:17:32,747
And everybody's
- ing fighting.
457
00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:35,228
Who always asks you
about you and Travis?
458
00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:36,403
I know.
459
00:17:36,403 --> 00:17:38,231
- I know you do.
- Because I care.
460
00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:40,755
My relationship is
so fragile right now.
461
00:17:40,755 --> 00:17:42,539
It's hard with
the stuff with Trav.
462
00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:44,672
Because he's basically
breaking up with me.
463
00:17:44,672 --> 00:17:47,066
I was like,
let's just let it settle.
464
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:50,547
You could break up with me
in three months from now.
465
00:17:50,982 --> 00:17:53,637
And it makes me fearful that
466
00:17:53,637 --> 00:17:55,596
the same thing could
happen to me and Emily.
467
00:17:55,596 --> 00:17:57,424
Like, there's
only so much I can take.
468
00:17:57,424 --> 00:17:58,773
Girl, we're fine.
469
00:17:58,773 --> 00:18:00,209
I think that we just
needed to do that.
470
00:18:00,209 --> 00:18:01,819
Things had built up.
471
00:18:01,819 --> 00:18:03,430
On the friendship totem pole,
you're at the top.
472
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:05,214
I see what happens between
473
00:18:05,214 --> 00:18:07,129
Shannon and Tamra
and I just get--
474
00:18:07,129 --> 00:18:08,478
That's not us.
475
00:18:08,478 --> 00:18:10,567
Those are two
dysfunctional nutjobs.
476
00:18:10,567 --> 00:18:12,221
- They're so----ed up.
- They are.
477
00:18:12,656 --> 00:18:14,528
- We're not like that.
- No.
478
00:18:14,528 --> 00:18:16,791
We're totally normal.
479
00:18:16,791 --> 00:18:18,793
♪
480
00:18:18,793 --> 00:18:20,447
- I got you a Diet Coke.
- [gasps]
481
00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:21,883
You did? Language of love.
482
00:18:21,883 --> 00:18:23,841
- I know, right?
- Oh, I love it. You ready?
483
00:18:23,841 --> 00:18:25,495
I'm ready.
I just have to go through
484
00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,845
and make one final sweep
after everybody packs up.
485
00:18:27,845 --> 00:18:29,412
Are you almost packed?
486
00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:30,979
I, yeah, pretty much am.
Oh my god, did you even make--
487
00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:32,894
Did you do this or
did Tamra come do this?
488
00:18:32,894 --> 00:18:34,635
- I did it.
- Okay, well, I'm gonna
489
00:18:34,635 --> 00:18:36,767
- ruin it and lay on it.
- Okay, lay on it.
490
00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:38,247
Can I have
a chit-chat real quick?
491
00:18:38,247 --> 00:18:39,553
- Yes.
- I'm a little bit stressed
492
00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:40,815
about the Heather thing because
493
00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:42,469
- she's my dear friend.
- Yeah.
494
00:18:42,469 --> 00:18:43,644
I know she's hard-headed.
495
00:18:43,644 --> 00:18:46,212
I really, really like you.
496
00:18:46,212 --> 00:18:49,084
I don't think laughing
was the right...
497
00:18:49,084 --> 00:18:50,738
I know.
I couldn't help it.
498
00:18:50,738 --> 00:18:52,740
She doesn't have the sense
of humor that you and I have.
499
00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:53,958
I know.
500
00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:55,351
So now what?
This has been a lovely day.
501
00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:57,048
- [laughing]
- Enjoy the Dom.
502
00:18:57,788 --> 00:19:01,314
She takes things way
too serious sometimes.
503
00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:02,880
If Heather and I can
move forward
504
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,534
and she can get past
all of this,
505
00:19:04,534 --> 00:19:07,581
because I'm
the freaking innocent one,
506
00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:08,886
then we'll do that.
507
00:19:08,886 --> 00:19:10,497
I totally will apologize
for laughing.
508
00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:12,194
Mean it in your eyes, though.
509
00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:13,326
She'll be able to read you.
510
00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:14,849
Yeah. Well, I do mean it.
511
00:19:14,849 --> 00:19:16,329
I don't want to have
this angst with Heather
512
00:19:16,329 --> 00:19:17,808
when we're in
the same friend group.
513
00:19:17,808 --> 00:19:19,027
Kumbaya's been
the whole thing of our trip.
514
00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:20,289
I know.
515
00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:21,595
Maybe Tamra
and I can have a kumbaya
516
00:19:21,595 --> 00:19:24,250
and bring everybody
back together.
517
00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,513
- Did you have fun?
- Mm...
518
00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:27,688
I'm so happy.
519
00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:30,560
- Oh, good.
- I am so happy
520
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,083
where you and I are.
521
00:19:32,083 --> 00:19:34,912
I want us to always
shoot each other straight,
522
00:19:34,912 --> 00:19:36,958
and I want you to know,
because I love you,
523
00:19:36,958 --> 00:19:39,221
I see what you're
doing with Shannon.
524
00:19:39,221 --> 00:19:40,353
What do you mean?
525
00:19:40,353 --> 00:19:42,572
When you attack, you...
526
00:19:42,572 --> 00:19:44,748
But I don't feel like
I've attacked her.
527
00:19:44,748 --> 00:19:47,838
She needs to be in
a rehab program.
528
00:19:47,838 --> 00:19:50,189
Yes, she does.
She's a----ing alcoholic.
529
00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:51,886
I want to help her.
530
00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:53,931
I don't know how to help her,
so I'm just frustrated with her.
531
00:19:53,931 --> 00:19:56,673
If this is family
and this is someone you love,
532
00:19:56,673 --> 00:20:01,069
then maybe you owe her
that hard conversation lovingly.
533
00:20:01,069 --> 00:20:02,375
Yeah, I would love that,
534
00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:04,246
but I don't
have high expectations
535
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:06,814
and I'm protecting
myself right now.
536
00:20:06,814 --> 00:20:08,859
I know she's not where
you think she needs to be,
537
00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:12,820
but I do think that she is doing
better than she was, Tamra.
538
00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:14,343
And that's all I can hope for.
539
00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:16,345
- That's fair.
- Let's hit the road now.
540
00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:19,348
I love you.
541
00:20:19,957 --> 00:20:22,003
- What's going on?
- What the [bleep]?
542
00:20:22,003 --> 00:20:23,265
Nothing.
543
00:20:23,265 --> 00:20:24,788
- You okay?
- Yeah, we're fine.
544
00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:27,095
We're fine. I think that
we just needed to do that.
545
00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:29,924
Things have built up
and sometimes you need to...
546
00:20:29,924 --> 00:20:32,143
- Okay.
- I don't understand Gina.
547
00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:34,058
She's coming after me.
548
00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:35,669
She's fighting with Emily.
549
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:37,584
- What, push each other?
- No.
550
00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,194
No, we did--
We had rackets.
551
00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,631
If I was going to get
aggressive, I would've...
552
00:20:41,631 --> 00:20:44,286
I would've beat her with
a pickleball racket already.
553
00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:45,592
I don't know this Gina.
554
00:20:45,592 --> 00:20:47,289
This isn't a person
that I recognize.
555
00:20:47,289 --> 00:20:48,856
She has changed.
556
00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:52,076
Maybe things at home
are worse than she's letting on.
557
00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:53,774
Oh!
558
00:20:53,774 --> 00:20:56,385
- See that?
- [laughing]
559
00:20:56,385 --> 00:20:58,779
I wasn't prepared!
560
00:20:58,779 --> 00:21:01,477
- You were prepared!
- Yeah, I know!
561
00:21:01,477 --> 00:21:03,131
Come on, let's go inside.
They can play.
562
00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:04,306
Where are you going?
563
00:21:04,306 --> 00:21:06,308
- Are you coming back?
- Yes.
564
00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:07,527
We'll be right back.
565
00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:08,658
I don't believe you.
566
00:21:08,658 --> 00:21:10,312
We'll be right back.
567
00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:12,009
I'm not going back.
568
00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:16,797
That's too far to run.
569
00:21:16,797 --> 00:21:17,972
Yeah. Okay.
570
00:21:21,236 --> 00:21:22,759
[phone ringing]
571
00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:24,413
Hey babe.
572
00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:27,155
We're literally loading up the
car right now and headed out,
573
00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:30,593
so I'll be back home in OC
in like about two hours.
574
00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:31,725
- Okay.
- John?
575
00:21:31,725 --> 00:21:33,161
Yes, thank you so much.
576
00:21:33,161 --> 00:21:34,989
Katie's here to help.
Johnny's on the phone.
577
00:21:34,989 --> 00:21:36,077
Hi.
578
00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:42,823
It has to do with what
I think it has to do with?
579
00:21:43,867 --> 00:21:47,001
I am literally going
to lose it right now.
580
00:21:47,001 --> 00:21:48,350
Gloves are off.
581
00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:50,352
Sh--.
582
00:21:50,352 --> 00:21:51,788
Sh--
583
00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:58,665
Let's just get in the car.
584
00:21:58,665 --> 00:22:01,276
Let's get the hell
out of Dodge.
585
00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,671
Can we start staying places
where there's people
586
00:22:04,671 --> 00:22:07,369
to take our sh--
in and out of rooms?
587
00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:11,068
Did you ever find your-- Oh!
588
00:22:11,068 --> 00:22:12,287
What?
589
00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:14,071
Get out of the house.
Get out.
590
00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:15,421
It's water.
591
00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:16,987
- Get out of the house.
- It's water.
592
00:22:16,987 --> 00:22:19,207
- Get out of the house.
- Get out of the house.
593
00:22:19,207 --> 00:22:20,556
Get out of the house.
594
00:22:21,775 --> 00:22:26,693
What Shannon is doing now
is being so like,
595
00:22:26,693 --> 00:22:28,956
I'm going to
freaking lose it.
596
00:22:28,956 --> 00:22:31,088
- I want to--
- Is it this legal stuff?
597
00:22:31,088 --> 00:22:32,960
He could only tell me
a minute of it,
598
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,962
and I could hear it in
Johnny's voice.
599
00:22:34,962 --> 00:22:39,140
It came to the point
where John has had enough.
600
00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:41,098
I think she gets
so blacked out drunk,
601
00:22:41,098 --> 00:22:43,927
she doesn't even remember
what she's done or said.
602
00:22:47,888 --> 00:22:51,979
I'm not at liberty to discuss
what happened
603
00:22:51,979 --> 00:22:56,200
that pushed John to the limit.
604
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,769
That is a question everyone
would have to ask him.
605
00:22:59,769 --> 00:23:01,902
But we have the footage.
606
00:23:01,902 --> 00:23:04,339
We have
the----ing footage, okay?
607
00:23:04,339 --> 00:23:06,733
And like, we've held it
this whole time. We've held it.
608
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,082
I know. I know.
609
00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:09,605
There's a lot that I know
610
00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:13,304
that Shannon probably wouldn't
want anyone else to know.
611
00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,132
Katie, it'll ruin her life.
612
00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:18,440
What video thing?
What video thing?
613
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,224
Is this bad?
614
00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:24,098
She's lied and all I know
is truth prevails.
615
00:23:24,098 --> 00:23:25,447
He's a monster.
616
00:23:26,274 --> 00:23:28,407
She's such a piece of sh--.
617
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:30,452
I think I'm going to throw up.
618
00:23:35,283 --> 00:23:38,678
♪
619
00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:41,202
- So, how was Big Bear?
- It was fun.
620
00:23:41,202 --> 00:23:42,595
Who did this?
621
00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:45,989
- Oh, another poo.
- No. Who did it?
622
00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:48,688
Oh, why did I sign up for this?
623
00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:50,124
That's disgusting.
624
00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:52,256
That's our deal.
I don't deal with the poop.
625
00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:53,388
I totally forgot.
626
00:23:53,388 --> 00:23:54,520
Did you step in it?
627
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,651
- Yep.
- No way.
628
00:23:55,651 --> 00:23:57,392
Yep, I stepped on it.
629
00:23:57,392 --> 00:23:59,873
Oh, mother of God.
630
00:24:07,358 --> 00:24:09,317
I don't know
where I thought I was--
631
00:24:09,317 --> 00:24:11,275
How many bikinis
I needed for this trip.
632
00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:13,713
[doorbell rings]
633
00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:15,410
- Hi.
- Hi.
634
00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:16,716
It's so cold out there.
635
00:24:16,716 --> 00:24:18,282
I know. I know.
636
00:24:18,282 --> 00:24:20,023
What the hell's going on?
You're having construction?
637
00:24:20,023 --> 00:24:21,329
Yeah.
638
00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:23,113
I feel like I haven't seen you
in forever.
639
00:24:23,113 --> 00:24:24,985
No, I haven't been in
your house for so long.
640
00:24:24,985 --> 00:24:26,247
So what are you doing?
641
00:24:26,247 --> 00:24:27,640
Well, I'll show you.
You want to see?
642
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,902
- Yeah.
- All right.
643
00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:30,425
- I'll show you.
- I love this sh--.
644
00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:31,992
It looks like it might need
a little painting.
645
00:24:31,992 --> 00:24:33,472
It needs a little paint, Tamra.
646
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,212
And the kids think
it's fun to paint on--
647
00:24:35,212 --> 00:24:36,953
To draw on the walls because
they're getting painted.
648
00:24:36,953 --> 00:24:38,085
Oh, so you're doing
built-in bunkbeds.
649
00:24:38,085 --> 00:24:39,652
- Yes.
- Prior to this,
650
00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:40,914
you had three beds in here?
651
00:24:40,914 --> 00:24:42,437
Yeah, a bunk bed,
652
00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:43,743
and then Sienna
had another popcorn bed here.
653
00:24:43,743 --> 00:24:45,962
When Travis moved out,
654
00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:47,442
I chose to do the construction
655
00:24:47,442 --> 00:24:50,967
because I was just focused
on fresh start.
656
00:24:50,967 --> 00:24:52,534
So, what's
the room situation now?
657
00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:55,798
Now that-- So now, Nick really
wanted his own room.
658
00:24:55,798 --> 00:24:57,539
- Yeah, he's older.
- And Sienna didn't.
659
00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,454
But for Travis,
660
00:24:59,454 --> 00:25:05,808
it feels like I am erasing
everything that once was.
661
00:25:05,808 --> 00:25:07,418
Wait, where are
they sleeping right now?
662
00:25:07,418 --> 00:25:10,552
They're literally all three
of them in my bedroom.
663
00:25:10,552 --> 00:25:12,336
This is the sh-- that
I didn't think about.
664
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:14,948
But I can't even fit in there,
so now I'm on the couch.
665
00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:17,341
♪ G-G-G-Go
666
00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:20,562
♪ Go
♪ Never ever let me go
667
00:25:20,562 --> 00:25:21,694
♪ G-G-G-Go
668
00:25:21,694 --> 00:25:23,217
Oh, you want to go this way?
669
00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:25,872
Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine.
670
00:25:25,872 --> 00:25:27,047
This is Luke.
671
00:25:27,047 --> 00:25:28,614
- Can you say hi?
- Hi.
672
00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:30,703
- How old are you?
- I'm nine.
673
00:25:30,703 --> 00:25:32,574
- There's another one somewhere.
- I'm six.
674
00:25:32,574 --> 00:25:33,662
Seriously.
675
00:25:33,662 --> 00:25:35,969
I am really excited
676
00:25:35,969 --> 00:25:38,493
that Bandon
gets to meet Emily's boys.
677
00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:40,321
Do you want this or not, sir?
678
00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:41,714
That's a long snake.
679
00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:43,542
I love moving to Orange County
680
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,979
because I feel like
the people are much nicer.
681
00:25:45,979 --> 00:25:47,676
They're more open.
682
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:48,808
We have better restaurants.
683
00:25:48,808 --> 00:25:50,461
So satisfying.
684
00:25:50,461 --> 00:25:52,725
It's not LA. It's not San Diego.
685
00:25:52,725 --> 00:25:53,987
It's like a perfect,
happy medium.
686
00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:55,336
I don't want to leave.
687
00:25:55,336 --> 00:25:57,381
I want to, like,
just live here forever.
688
00:25:57,773 --> 00:25:59,166
So, how was your trip?
689
00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:00,341
So good.
690
00:26:00,341 --> 00:26:01,734
My stomach was hurting
from laughing.
691
00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:02,996
I mean, we had so much fun.
692
00:26:02,996 --> 00:26:05,694
♪ Kumbaya, my lord
693
00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:07,566
♪ Kumbaya
694
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,306
- That's awesome. Good.
- Yes. How was yours?
695
00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:11,265
It was good.
We had a lot of fun, too.
696
00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:13,528
But then there was like,
some dramatic moments.
697
00:26:13,528 --> 00:26:14,660
Tell me what happened.
698
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,096
Well, first, Gina and Heather
699
00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:18,315
had not really resolved things.
700
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:21,623
- Oh, okay.
- So, they ended up talking.
701
00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:23,538
- Right.
- Gina apologized a lot.
702
00:26:23,538 --> 00:26:25,192
But then, I also think Gina
703
00:26:25,192 --> 00:26:27,020
finally got to the point of
irritation where she was like,
704
00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,196
- what else do you want from me?
- Get over it.
705
00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:30,676
I am starting
to figure out, like,
706
00:26:30,676 --> 00:26:32,591
I thought Gina was like
a girl's girl for me.
707
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:33,983
And now I'm like, well,
708
00:26:33,983 --> 00:26:35,419
I think she's a girl's girl
for Heather.
709
00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:38,292
Yeah. I'm not going
to trust that anymore.
710
00:26:38,727 --> 00:26:40,033
So, how was Big Bear?
711
00:26:40,033 --> 00:26:41,469
Alexis is a lot, man.
712
00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:44,603
Like, shut the [bleep] up.
Man, shut up.
713
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:47,170
I didn't even know
what you are could exist.
714
00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:49,042
I'm on my period a lot,
then I'm off,
715
00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:50,565
and I don't have
a period for too much.
716
00:26:50,565 --> 00:26:52,480
A lot of lies that have been
spoken about John
717
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,700
that are not true, and they're
going to be cleared up.
718
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,919
Ah! Jesus, take the wheel!
719
00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:58,834
Alexis is very Shannon-focused
720
00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:00,314
when she's in the room
with Shannon.
721
00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:02,185
- She's very defensive.
- Is she still like that
722
00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:03,273
when Shannon isn't there?
723
00:27:03,273 --> 00:27:04,971
For the most part, she was not.
724
00:27:04,971 --> 00:27:07,756
I know this is
a very sensitive topic for you.
725
00:27:07,756 --> 00:27:10,019
- Yeah.
- But when we went away
726
00:27:10,019 --> 00:27:11,760
to LA Quinta,
Shannon, she was able
727
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,850
to be vulnerable there
because we put our walls down
728
00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:16,852
and we're not,
like, angry at her.
729
00:27:16,852 --> 00:27:18,549
- She drank.
- She did.
730
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:20,508
Because she likes to drink.
731
00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:22,423
- I know.
- And she's just like, for me,
732
00:27:22,423 --> 00:27:24,860
even for you, you didn't have
a drinking problem.
733
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,732
You were not an alcoholic,
as far as I know.
734
00:27:26,732 --> 00:27:28,168
No, I had a drinking problem.
735
00:27:28,168 --> 00:27:29,735
- Oh, you did?
- I had a drinking problem.
736
00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:32,476
And then it got more control
of me than I did of it.
737
00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:33,913
But I'm not an alcoholic.
738
00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:35,828
I did not stop drinking
after I got my DUI
739
00:27:35,828 --> 00:27:37,438
because I felt like a loser.
740
00:27:37,438 --> 00:27:40,484
I was ready to take
responsibility for the mistake
741
00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:42,486
that I made,
but I wasn't ready to admit
742
00:27:42,486 --> 00:27:44,488
that I had a problem
with alcohol.
743
00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:45,881
Here's the thing.
744
00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:47,666
There's people that have
severe drinking problems
745
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:49,580
and people that
just act like assholes.
746
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:53,454
It was only, like, later on
I started to become aware of it.
747
00:27:53,454 --> 00:27:56,457
But you can't force somebody
into that.
748
00:27:56,457 --> 00:27:58,285
They have to get there
themselves.
749
00:27:58,285 --> 00:28:01,288
It's the manipulation.
It's the lying.
750
00:28:01,288 --> 00:28:04,552
But that's a woman,
a broken woman in pain.
751
00:28:04,552 --> 00:28:07,207
She really needs, like,
her real friends, and, like,
752
00:28:07,207 --> 00:28:08,948
you're her best----ing friend.
753
00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:10,514
I want to have
a conversation with her,
754
00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:14,214
but I feel like tough love
is the best thing for her
755
00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:17,739
because now she feels like,
"Okay, I got Gina on my side.
756
00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:19,306
"Oh, I got Heather on my side."
757
00:28:19,306 --> 00:28:21,874
And then she's going to go
right back to her ways.
758
00:28:21,874 --> 00:28:24,659
So Alexis the whole time was
like, "If she doesn't shut up,
759
00:28:24,659 --> 00:28:26,748
"you know, we're going to
release some things."
760
00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,489
I'm like, "Well, what do you
have to release?"
761
00:28:28,489 --> 00:28:30,143
- Right.
- Well, John ended up
762
00:28:30,143 --> 00:28:31,492
calling her
right before we left,
763
00:28:31,492 --> 00:28:34,147
and apparently Shannon
did something,
764
00:28:34,147 --> 00:28:36,149
and he said all gloves are off,
765
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:38,064
and they're going to release
these videos of Shannon.
766
00:28:38,064 --> 00:28:40,370
Wait, what is it
that Shannon did?
767
00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:42,851
There's, like,
Ring footage cameras of her
768
00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:44,984
almost running over
his daughter.
769
00:28:44,984 --> 00:28:47,116
Oh, my god.
Are you serious?
770
00:28:47,116 --> 00:28:50,337
She kept saying,
if we release this, she's done.
771
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,252
Her reputation
is completely done.
772
00:28:52,252 --> 00:28:54,167
I just don't understand it.
773
00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:56,256
If John and Alexis are
so happy together,
774
00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:58,345
just ride off into the sunset.
775
00:28:58,345 --> 00:29:02,871
Like, why drag Shannon's
lifeless body along behind you?
776
00:29:02,871 --> 00:29:06,875
I'm afraid it's gonna push her
to the point of no return.
777
00:29:07,571 --> 00:29:08,659
Coming up...
778
00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:11,880
I've seen you in
compromising situations.
779
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,404
Have I drove my car
into a house?
780
00:29:17,712 --> 00:29:20,106
♪
781
00:29:22,978 --> 00:29:24,327
Ready?
782
00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:26,112
Of course, I'm ready.
Anywhere with you.
783
00:29:26,112 --> 00:29:27,940
I know. I love that
you do this with me.
784
00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:29,463
Hi, welcome to Glo Nail Bar.
785
00:29:29,463 --> 00:29:32,422
We have a reservation for
the two of us under Ryan.
786
00:29:32,422 --> 00:29:34,120
- Okay, perfect.
- Please.
787
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,686
Awesome, I can
take you guys this way.
788
00:29:35,686 --> 00:29:36,949
Thanks so much.
789
00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:39,125
Ryan definitely enjoys
a spa day.
790
00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:41,127
He will do pedis with me.
791
00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:42,955
But you know what?
I've never had that.
792
00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:46,132
Like, my marriage for 23 years
was opposite that.
793
00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:48,830
Like, trying to get Will
to spend time with me
794
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:50,049
was really hard.
795
00:29:50,049 --> 00:29:51,267
Would you like anything
to drink?
796
00:29:51,267 --> 00:29:52,834
- A Diet Coke.
- Okay.
797
00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:54,488
I'm going to do
a Diet Coke as well.
798
00:29:54,488 --> 00:29:55,968
- Okay.
- So, now I have
799
00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,360
this relationship with Ryan.
800
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,667
He is truly my best friend.
He loves it.
801
00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:01,582
Smells good.
His toes look good.
802
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:03,323
His fingernails, he's shaven.
803
00:30:03,323 --> 00:30:06,500
It just kind of goes with
who Ryan is.
804
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,459
I'll have a double shot
of Malibu rum with this.
805
00:30:09,459 --> 00:30:11,461
- He's actually dead serious.
- Oh, that's okay.
806
00:30:11,461 --> 00:30:12,898
- Cheers, baby.
- Cheers, honey.
807
00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:14,377
How cute are these?
808
00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:18,164
My, how our dates changed.
809
00:30:18,164 --> 00:30:19,556
I feel like
I'm all over the place.
810
00:30:19,556 --> 00:30:21,036
So much happened in 24 hours.
811
00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:23,169
- Yes.
- The night in Big Bear.
812
00:30:23,169 --> 00:30:24,561
Went out to a bar.
813
00:30:24,561 --> 00:30:26,476
- My friend, Jen.
- Yes.
814
00:30:26,476 --> 00:30:28,522
Is going to go on OnlyFans
815
00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:30,567
and show her boobies
and her butthole.
816
00:30:30,567 --> 00:30:32,221
- Would you subscribe?
- I don't subscribe,
817
00:30:32,221 --> 00:30:33,832
but you'll make some money.
818
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:36,399
They start in on this OnlyFans
conversation at me.
819
00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:37,879
Wait, start on what
conversation?
820
00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:39,402
That I should do OnlyFans.
821
00:30:39,402 --> 00:30:41,013
This is not happening.
I love you.
822
00:30:41,013 --> 00:30:42,405
Are you going to
put your foot down?
823
00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:44,059
- A million percent.
- Okay.
824
00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:47,410
I mean, my feet subscription
is making a killing, but...
825
00:30:48,107 --> 00:30:49,804
Sorry.
826
00:30:49,804 --> 00:30:52,589
I should probably check
and see if he has one.
827
00:30:52,589 --> 00:30:54,287
I want to paint
each of my big toes.
828
00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:55,723
- Yeah, thank you.
- He's actually serious.
829
00:30:55,723 --> 00:30:57,203
- Okay.
- I am 100% serious.
830
00:30:57,203 --> 00:30:58,291
I know you are, honey.
831
00:30:58,291 --> 00:30:59,640
Everybody else is concerned
832
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,207
about how Ryan
makes his money, so...
833
00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:03,383
I mean, how does
he make his money, right?
834
00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:05,907
Those are some
of the best moments,
835
00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:07,343
when the group was
together and cocktailed
836
00:31:07,343 --> 00:31:08,562
and just the fun
that comes with it.
837
00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:10,085
- It was.
- You guys needed that.
838
00:31:10,085 --> 00:31:11,347
We did need that.
839
00:31:11,347 --> 00:31:13,567
Tamra pulled up
Will's Instagram.
840
00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:14,698
- Oh, no.
- [phone ringing]
841
00:31:14,698 --> 00:31:15,917
I don't like seeing that stuff,
842
00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,092
I'll be honest.
843
00:31:17,092 --> 00:31:18,833
Hold on. Hi, sweetheart.
844
00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:22,228
Honey, wait.
845
00:31:22,228 --> 00:31:24,099
You can't toilet paper
in the daylight.
846
00:31:25,187 --> 00:31:26,493
No way.
847
00:31:26,493 --> 00:31:27,668
Hold on.
848
00:31:30,497 --> 00:31:32,716
I cannot give you
an answer about the TP.
849
00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:35,197
Okay, I love you.
850
00:31:35,197 --> 00:31:38,200
You know you don't always have
to say yes to all five kids
851
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,941
on everything they ask for.
852
00:31:39,941 --> 00:31:42,465
You will say to the kids, what
do you guys want for breakfast?
853
00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:44,946
And they all five say something
different, and you do it.
854
00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:48,210
I know, Ryan. I've said this
to you a hundred times.
855
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:49,908
I was always
just home with them.
856
00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:51,648
I love you.
You are Mother Teresa,
857
00:31:51,648 --> 00:31:53,824
but I think you could make it
a little bit easier
858
00:31:53,824 --> 00:31:55,565
- on yourself.
- I'm working on that.
859
00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,437
The way I am with my kids,
860
00:31:57,437 --> 00:31:58,612
I coddle too much.
861
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,875
And going through my divorce,
862
00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:04,096
it just got worse because
I have so much guilt
863
00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:05,967
for changing their lives.
864
00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:08,665
But now I look at it
like I taught them nothing.
865
00:32:08,665 --> 00:32:10,232
The moment we moved into Ryan's,
866
00:32:10,232 --> 00:32:12,191
it's like all of a sudden,
I have a curfew.
867
00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:14,497
Be home at like 9:30.
868
00:32:14,497 --> 00:32:15,803
We do need some stuff in place.
869
00:32:15,803 --> 00:32:17,674
Make your bed,
pick up your trash.
870
00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:19,459
One day you're going to be
a married man,
871
00:32:19,459 --> 00:32:21,461
and your wife is going to be
like, "What the hell?"
872
00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:23,942
Did your mom wipe your ass
for you until you were 40?
873
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:26,596
- And I do that.
- I will be fine by then.
874
00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:29,556
I do think I need to draw
a line with Dawson,
875
00:32:29,556 --> 00:32:32,341
but it's really hard
to start doing that at 17,
876
00:32:32,341 --> 00:32:34,517
so I am just going to try
to love him through it.
877
00:32:34,517 --> 00:32:36,041
That's all I can do.
878
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:37,303
My toes look good.
879
00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:38,869
What'd you do?
880
00:32:38,869 --> 00:32:40,784
We got a little something
something over here, babe.
881
00:32:40,784 --> 00:32:43,222
Wait, you have
a bedazzled heart?
882
00:32:43,222 --> 00:32:44,832
I have a bedazzled heart.
883
00:32:44,832 --> 00:32:46,573
I think it looks amazing.
Thank you.
884
00:32:46,573 --> 00:32:48,705
- Yeah, thank you.
- Thank you.
885
00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:50,316
You are special.
886
00:32:51,447 --> 00:32:54,233
♪
887
00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:09,030
[phone ringing]
888
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:10,423
Hi.
889
00:33:10,423 --> 00:33:12,512
Hi, whatcha doing?
890
00:33:12,512 --> 00:33:17,212
I'm just hanging out
in my living room.
891
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,042
Oh, my God.
892
00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,349
- I am headed--
- What are you doing?
893
00:33:23,349 --> 00:33:26,395
Well, I took your advice, and
I'm headed to go meet Shannon.
894
00:33:27,353 --> 00:33:29,311
- You are?
- Yes.
895
00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:30,530
This is your--
896
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:32,053
- Okay.
- This is your doing,
897
00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:33,707
just so you know.
898
00:33:33,707 --> 00:33:35,796
All the girls are telling me
that Shannon is doing better,
899
00:33:35,796 --> 00:33:38,581
she's getting help, and that's
all I've ever wanted for her.
900
00:33:38,581 --> 00:33:40,931
And if that's truly
what's going on with her,
901
00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:42,542
I would like
to sit down with her.
902
00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:44,500
I would like to talk to her.
903
00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:51,072
Well, I mean, I still have
a little animosity
904
00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:54,249
because she
should be reaching out to me.
905
00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:57,078
[phone ringing]
906
00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:58,601
- Hello.
- Hi.
907
00:33:59,428 --> 00:34:02,214
I'm on the way to meet Tamra.
908
00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:04,781
Yeah.
909
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:06,740
Aw, thank you.
910
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:09,743
Having tension with Tamra
and Shannon is a disaster.
911
00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:13,007
It's difficult in our group to
be friends with everyone
912
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:15,096
and figure out how
to support each other.
913
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:16,750
And it's exhausting
because I feel like
914
00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:18,099
we've done this before.
915
00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:20,232
How many times
do we have to do this?
916
00:34:20,232 --> 00:34:22,712
You know, I'm gonna go in.
I'm not gonna yell.
917
00:34:22,712 --> 00:34:27,282
I'm gonna lead with my butthole.
What am I leading with?
918
00:34:27,282 --> 00:34:29,589
My heart.
My heart, that's it.
919
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:31,591
I hate it when
you lead with your butthole.
920
00:34:31,591 --> 00:34:33,114
Heart. Not asshole.
921
00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:34,594
Heart, heart. Okay.
922
00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:36,378
I won't lead
with my asshole this time.
923
00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:45,953
Thank you.
I'll see you in a little bit.
924
00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:49,783
Ma'am, get you going here.
925
00:34:49,783 --> 00:34:52,916
- Here. For you.
- Thank you so much.
926
00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:02,665
- Hey.
- Hey.
927
00:35:03,492 --> 00:35:05,407
Would you like to start
with any water?
928
00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:06,800
Any still or sparkling?
929
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,367
Just like a Pellegrino.
930
00:35:08,367 --> 00:35:09,759
- Pellegrino.
- Or any sparkling.
931
00:35:09,759 --> 00:35:11,631
You got it.
I'll be right back, okay?
932
00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:13,502
- Hi.
- Thank you. Hey.
933
00:35:13,502 --> 00:35:15,200
- Hey, how are you?
- You look great.
934
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,505
Thank you. So do you.
935
00:35:16,853 --> 00:35:21,206
Um, I know this is
probably difficult for you,
936
00:35:21,684 --> 00:35:24,470
and I just want to,
like, just start off,
937
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:26,036
like, just get it out there.
938
00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:27,995
I was really, really hoping
that you'd be the one
939
00:35:27,995 --> 00:35:30,911
to reach out to me,
to meet me.
940
00:35:30,911 --> 00:35:32,217
Oh, okay.
941
00:35:32,217 --> 00:35:34,784
After the way you spoke to me
at the dinner?
942
00:35:34,784 --> 00:35:37,831
I've had two conversations
with you on the telephone.
943
00:35:37,831 --> 00:35:39,398
And you were drunk every time!
944
00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:42,531
You've been doing nothing
but defaming me.
945
00:35:42,531 --> 00:35:43,924
Defaming you?
I don't say things
946
00:35:43,924 --> 00:35:45,621
- that are not true.
- Oh, you did.
947
00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:47,014
- No, I didn't.
- You did, actually.
948
00:35:47,014 --> 00:35:48,972
- No, I didn't.
- You give people a--
949
00:35:48,972 --> 00:35:50,322
I didn't.
950
00:35:50,322 --> 00:35:52,193
Okay, and so should I tell you
to calm down now?
951
00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,586
No, I'm just mimicking you,
952
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:55,109
so just so you know
what you look like.
953
00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:58,068
I'm here to try
to make things better.
954
00:35:58,068 --> 00:36:01,071
Tamra, you have been defaming me
for eight weeks.
955
00:36:01,071 --> 00:36:02,508
Defaming you how?
956
00:36:02,508 --> 00:36:04,684
You keep saying you're drunk,
957
00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:06,338
you need to be sober.
958
00:36:06,338 --> 00:36:07,948
You know nothing about me.
959
00:36:07,948 --> 00:36:10,255
Well, it was very--
I know everything about you.
960
00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:12,474
I know how you move.
I know what makes you tick.
961
00:36:12,474 --> 00:36:13,693
I know everything.
962
00:36:13,693 --> 00:36:15,173
I am focusing on being healthy.
963
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:16,826
- I'm not coping.
- So, you don't drink anymore?
964
00:36:16,826 --> 00:36:19,786
I will have
pretty much two drinks.
965
00:36:19,786 --> 00:36:21,222
I don't think
I've gone over two.
966
00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,311
So, you do not have
a drinking problem?
967
00:36:23,311 --> 00:36:26,358
Well, so far, first of all,
I'm very aware of it
968
00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:28,534
- and I'm still continuing--
- You're aware of what?
969
00:36:28,534 --> 00:36:31,537
That I used alcohol
and I used it excessively
970
00:36:31,537 --> 00:36:34,366
in certain
darker periods of my life.
971
00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:37,717
If I get to a point where
alcohol is an issue with me,
972
00:36:37,717 --> 00:36:39,675
then I absolutely
will look at it.
973
00:36:39,675 --> 00:36:41,590
- But so far--
- But don't you feel
974
00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:42,983
like sneaking alcohol
is an issue?
975
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:44,898
- I did one night.
- We went to dinner
976
00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:46,682
and my photographer
was there
977
00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:49,903
and she was whispering to him
to order her a drink
978
00:36:49,903 --> 00:36:52,645
and then slip it
in her Diet Coke.
979
00:36:52,645 --> 00:36:54,777
- What?
- So that is something that
980
00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:56,823
somebody with
a drinking problem does.
981
00:36:56,823 --> 00:36:59,086
I've seen you
in compromising situations,
982
00:36:59,086 --> 00:37:01,262
- so that's just like--
- Oh, God, Shannon.
983
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:02,742
Don't focus on me.
984
00:37:02,742 --> 00:37:05,614
Have I drove my car
into a house?
985
00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:18,714
Oh, my God.
986
00:37:20,368 --> 00:37:21,978
Can you get my purse, please?
987
00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:24,503
Can someone get my purse?
I need my purse.
988
00:37:24,503 --> 00:37:26,679
Is she coming back or not?
989
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,343
I've seen you
in compromising situations,
990
00:37:38,343 --> 00:37:40,432
- so that's just like--
- Oh, God, Shannon.
991
00:37:40,432 --> 00:37:41,824
Don't focus on me.
992
00:37:41,824 --> 00:37:44,784
Have I drove my car
into a house?
993
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:48,266
Sorry.
994
00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:51,791
Is she coming back or not?
995
00:37:54,097 --> 00:38:00,539
She has done nothing but hurt
me and spread lies about me
996
00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,410
that are----ing
character damaging.
997
00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:04,020
Where is she?
998
00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:08,895
Is she taking-- Getting a drink?
999
00:38:08,895 --> 00:38:10,679
I know what I did
1000
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:12,942
and I don't need
- ing Tamra Judge
1001
00:38:12,942 --> 00:38:15,510
to be the person
that decides my punishment.
1002
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:16,946
Like, [bleep] off.
1003
00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:18,774
This is a true example
1004
00:38:18,774 --> 00:38:20,385
of kicking someone
when they're down.
1005
00:38:20,385 --> 00:38:21,951
It's just the low blows.
1006
00:38:21,951 --> 00:38:23,344
You go for the jugular.
1007
00:38:23,344 --> 00:38:24,998
That's what you do, Tamra Judge.
1008
00:38:24,998 --> 00:38:26,782
And you're lucky that I don't.
1009
00:38:26,782 --> 00:38:29,002
You're lucky that I'm not
stooping to your level
1010
00:38:29,002 --> 00:38:31,047
because I could go there.
1011
00:38:31,047 --> 00:38:33,963
I'm strong,
and I know that, clearly.
1012
00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:42,929
I apologize for getting up,
but that's what I'm learning.
1013
00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:45,366
If I'm upset,
I just gotta go take a breath.
1014
00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:46,802
Okay.
1015
00:38:46,802 --> 00:38:48,369
It's like I'm digging myself
out of a hole,
1016
00:38:48,369 --> 00:38:50,458
and I feel like
you are the one of the people
1017
00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:52,765
that's just trying to push me
back in there.
1018
00:38:52,765 --> 00:38:55,115
Let me tell you,
what I'm doing right now
1019
00:38:55,115 --> 00:38:58,118
- is I'm focusing on myself.
- You should.
1020
00:38:58,118 --> 00:39:00,642
I have kept a very small circle
of people around me
1021
00:39:00,642 --> 00:39:05,430
and I have received
so much overwhelming support.
1022
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:08,346
I've never had this much
support in my life.
1023
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,739
Oh, so the ten years that I was
there for you as a friend
1024
00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,307
and talked to you all the time
about every issue you've had,
1025
00:39:13,307 --> 00:39:14,874
- I wasn't there for you?
- Yeah.
1026
00:39:14,874 --> 00:39:16,310
That's pretty hurtful.
1027
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:18,181
- You know what?
- I came here to try
1028
00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:19,966
to make things better
and all you've done
1029
00:39:19,966 --> 00:39:21,968
is been defensive and
yelling at me the entire time.
1030
00:39:21,968 --> 00:39:23,839
- I'm not yelling at you.
- I've been screaming.
1031
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:25,406
I've been screaming at me. Okay.
1032
00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:27,843
For once, Tamra Judge,
just calm.
1033
00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:29,323
For once, you're calm.
1034
00:39:29,323 --> 00:39:31,151
Do you know how
off the rails you were
1035
00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:32,892
the other night
at Gina's dinner?
1036
00:39:32,892 --> 00:39:35,155
And then you, like, start
backing up Alexis Bellino,
1037
00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,157
making allegations towards me.
1038
00:39:37,157 --> 00:39:40,378
It's like,
stick in your lane, Tamra.
1039
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:41,727
Backing up Alexis?
1040
00:39:41,727 --> 00:39:43,816
Oh, about the money
that you owe John?
1041
00:39:43,816 --> 00:39:45,426
I don't owe him money.
1042
00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:47,689
I never signed a promissory note
that I owe him money.
1043
00:39:47,689 --> 00:39:50,518
I paid for everything the first
two years of our relationship.
1044
00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:53,347
So, now what I have to do
and spend my time doing
1045
00:39:53,347 --> 00:39:57,830
is going through and reliving
how stupid I was to stay.
1046
00:39:57,830 --> 00:39:59,397
Is he suing you?
1047
00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:01,442
Yeah, he is.
1048
00:40:01,442 --> 00:40:02,922
He's suing you?
1049
00:40:04,358 --> 00:40:07,927
And my lawyer made
a settlement offer today.
1050
00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:10,756
I don't owe him anything.
1051
00:40:11,321 --> 00:40:12,410
And he--
1052
00:40:13,019 --> 00:40:15,151
Sorry.
It's just been a bad day.
1053
00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:16,718
- And he--
- I'm sorry.
1054
00:40:16,718 --> 00:40:19,373
- I'm sorry.
- He said
1055
00:40:19,373 --> 00:40:23,333
he won't accept one penny
under $75,000.
1056
00:40:23,725 --> 00:40:28,556
He said that if you don't come
up with a payment plan
1057
00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:33,256
to pay him $75,000,
they're filing on Friday.
1058
00:40:33,256 --> 00:40:37,739
So, I am not making monthly
payments to John Janssen.
1059
00:40:37,739 --> 00:40:39,741
It's not gonna happen.
1060
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:45,094
I'm not gonna go through
three years of hell again.
1061
00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:46,139
No.
1062
00:40:46,139 --> 00:40:47,401
And I don't blame you.
1063
00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:50,883
I'm not gonna pay
$75,000 to him.
1064
00:40:50,883 --> 00:40:52,450
How dare he?
1065
00:40:55,278 --> 00:40:58,456
[sighs]
It's a mess. It's a mess.
1066
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:03,417
In 2018, Jim Bellino sued
Shannon and I for defamation.
1067
00:41:03,417 --> 00:41:04,810
It was emotional hell.
1068
00:41:04,810 --> 00:41:06,899
Me and Shannon trauma bonded
1069
00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:08,596
over not knowing,
1070
00:41:08,596 --> 00:41:11,860
are we gonna have no money
in the bank after this is done?
1071
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:13,296
You know, my heart does break,
1072
00:41:13,296 --> 00:41:15,560
and I don't want
to make things worse.
1073
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,257
And yes, Alexis is my friend,
1074
00:41:17,257 --> 00:41:18,998
but I personally
couldn't imagine
1075
00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:20,434
going through this again.
1076
00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:22,392
I mean,
I really feel for Shannon.
1077
00:41:22,392 --> 00:41:24,830
Listen, I'm having
a party on Wednesday.
1078
00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:27,267
I would like for you and Vicki
to come.
1079
00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:29,965
- Really?
- Yeah.
1080
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:32,054
Okay, now I want
to give you a hug.
1081
00:41:34,056 --> 00:41:35,449
Thank you.
1082
00:41:38,234 --> 00:41:40,323
Thank you.
I love you too.
1083
00:41:44,066 --> 00:41:45,590
I know you're going through
so much
1084
00:41:45,590 --> 00:41:47,287
and I know
you're heartbroken as well.
1085
00:41:47,287 --> 00:41:48,897
But I don't want
to make things worse.
1086
00:41:48,897 --> 00:41:50,246
Okay, let's not make it worse.
1087
00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:51,770
And I do apologize
for yelling at you
1088
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:53,902
- at Gina's dinner.
- I apologize for hurting you.
1089
00:41:53,902 --> 00:41:55,600
I never want
to hurt anybody, Tamra. I don't.
1090
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,604
Next time, let's put the boxing
gloves on and go hee-ho.
1091
00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:01,823
Two hot-headed blondes.
1092
00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:08,221
Next time on The Real Housewives
of Orange County...
1093
00:42:08,221 --> 00:42:09,962
Turn around, gotta get your bald
spot so it matches your face.
1094
00:42:09,962 --> 00:42:11,746
- It's gonna be a hum and a blow.
1095
00:42:11,746 --> 00:42:13,139
[breathalyzer beeping]
1096
00:42:13,139 --> 00:42:14,619
- You did it wrong.
- Are you kidding?
1097
00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:16,838
- Would I have been violated?
- Violations, yes.
1098
00:42:17,230 --> 00:42:19,928
Welcome, Housewives and Vicki.
1099
00:42:20,712 --> 00:42:21,843
She's a----ing bitch.
1100
00:42:21,843 --> 00:42:23,236
Let the game begin.
1101
00:42:23,236 --> 00:42:24,629
I feel like, okay,
I'm just less than Emil.
1102
00:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,805
Like, you value bank accounts.
That's bullsh--.
1103
00:42:26,805 --> 00:42:30,809
So, they're saying we'll drop
the lawsuit if you say this.
1104
00:42:30,809 --> 00:42:34,029
I'm not going to----ing lie.
That's----ing blackmail.