Previously on the Real Housewives of Orange County.
Let me use your shoes, you take the slippers.
No, I don't want the slippers!
Whoa!
Oh! Old lady down, old lady down.
I'm not gonna lie,
that Tres Amigas trip was off the chain.
Tamra texted me and is like,
"Can't wait to hang out."
Did you think we can get it back?
I want to know what happened at the girls' trip.
Am I making excuses for calling her an alcoholic
and all those things? No.
Me and Shannon are a problem.
Carmella seems like she's a lot of fun.
- I was naked. - Oh!
And so I was working for Playboy.
Were you at the Playboy Mansion?
Yeah.
This is kind of a move-out gadget.
You want to look through that?
Is this a taser?
I definitely think that I'm gonna have a harder time
with this change than Sophia will.
Grayson got pulled over the other day.
I said, "Wait, wait, Gray,
"how fast did they pull you over for?"
105.
[gasps]
Jenn.
What'd she say?
Basically, I'm not friends with you, like I think I am.
Oh, stop!
You feel certain ways, I don't feel that way.
If you're doing this to Tamra,
what are you doing behind my back?
I'm trying to get to a point
where we're not yelling at each other
and saying your podcast is tanking.
Absolutely.
I make money off of you.
Then you should thank me.
My motives are like my taste.
Best left unquestioned.
How do I hold it all together?
Resilience and shapewear.
The truth speaks volumes and I'm about to turn it up.
Just because I'm spoken for doesn't mean I won't speak up.
My body may be new,
but my mouth is the same as always.
I'm the center of attention and the centerfold.
I'm still the hottest housewife, and that's my opinion.
Wives come and go, but legends...
we whoop it up forever!
[upbeat music]
Sophia, what part of pack everything last night
did you misunderstand?
Don't you want to take your comforter?
No, Mom. I actually don't want to sleep in bed sheets.
Well, this is all the stuff
that needs to be packed up, dude.
You're acting like I'm not doing things right now.
No, I'm not saying that.
Help me out.
Where's the cat food and bowls and all that stuff?
Here. I'm, I'm prepared.
Sophia's just grown up so much in the last year.
She was so hesitant about moving out and going to LA
and doing things on her own.
Look at all these cobwebs everywhere.
That's been there since before I even moved into this room.
Don't put that on me, don't put that on me.
Oh, God.
I think that now that she's with Nico,
she's become more confident.
And it didn't hurt that her boyfriend
lives 10 minutes from her brand new place.
I told you, you should have been more prepared.
I've been raising kids for 40 years.
[screaming]
Show my wife, because I'm blown away.
Why would you do that?
Who are you wearing, Sydney?
I'm wearing Tamra Barney.
You're one of my best work.
It's like graduation all over again.
And now that she's the last one,
I feel like I really need to nurture my relationship
with my husband.
I don't know, I just feel like having like Woodstock sex.
You know what I mean? Like, just,
"Orgies at our house! Kids are gone!"
Thank God it's not raining today.
I know.
[upbeat music]
[thunder clap]
[calm music]
[scoffs]
Oh, Doctor Tim!
What's happening, Em?
Hi, how you doing?
You look absolutely spectacular.
What's new and exciting?
I lost I'd say probably like 40 pounds
over the past nine months.
But I mean, I go to the gym every day.
- It shows. - I was there this morning.
Last year, I was very overwhelmed by Luke,
and I had also gained a lot of weight back.
He's possibly autistic, and he doesn't think
and function like other children do.
I feel like the weight of it is on me.
And now I feel like I've found myself again.
And then when you feel good about yourself,
you feel good about taking care of your kids,
and spending time with your husband, and then that
trickles down to everybody else.
Well, hello, Shannon.
The Doctor of pain.
How are you, beauty?
I'm good, how are you?
Ow!
I have been seeing Doctor Tim for I think 11 years now.
We're gonna do a little, like, stretch.
Okay, wait! I don't want to get paralyzed.
[creak] Oh!
[creak] Yeah, yeah, yeah! Ow!
Some of Doctor Tim's approach is aggressive.
Food-wise, what are you doing?
Chicken meatballs! With just a little panko!
- All right? - Yes. Ow!
I can't, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow!
My usual workout routine
is I do cardio and then I go into weights.
Ow!
I don't know what's going on at Doctor Tim's
except there's some stretching, and then there's some pain.
Ow!
It's definitely not what I'm used to.
We're just gonna cool down, we're just gonna be easy.
- Okay. - We're gonna lay on the mat.
No pain from me this time.
Any questions, you holler.
- Yeah. Okay. - Yeah.
You seemed quiet last night at my birthday.
I mean, I was biting my tongue.
When you were having a discussion with Tamra,
because I thought that that conversation was outrageous.
I felt like we got to some kind of a resolution,
but then she said, "Now I can tell iHeart
"that you're allowed to go to events now."
We do a ton of things with iHeart,
and you haven't been there because I wouldn't allow it.
So now... [laughter]
Now I gotta sit back at the table and fight with you.
- What are you talking about? - I'm joking, I'm joking.
The intent of saying that was to remind me
that she's up here, and I'm below her.
I'm not gonna put myself through that anymore.
It was exhausting.
[upbeat music]
Let's go peoples, come on.
Put the rocking chair right there.
We're gonna turn it right here.
Little less talk, little more work here.
[chuckling]
Do you want to put up pictures?
- What do you want to do? - Yeah, sure.
[sighs]
Here, try that.
Okay. And I'll look.
[bang] Oh, [bleep]. There you go.
Shh, it's okay.
Who is she?
It's Helen.
Her dad was a jewelry maker.
- How do you know this? - She told me.
You're scaring me.
So, Vicki was over at my house,
and she wants the Tres Amigas back.
Can you move on with Shannon?
You have to understand, I tried.
She wouldn't even give me the time of day last year.
All I want is to figure out
a way that we can put it behind us
and just start being kind.
I'm all for moving forward.
Just be neutral.
[phone buzzes]
Oh, it's Vicki.
What are you doing?
Hi, Victoria.
You guys are working out?
I'm freezing.
- This rain is horrible. - Oh, it's so nasty.
So Shannon, do you want to do lunch?
Just me and you?
No, and Tamra.
We're gonna have a chit-chat.
Oh, just say yes.
- Just say yes. - You don't have a choice.
You'd better be there or be square.
The thing is, I'm not gonna be dumb and go back.
You don't have to go backwards.
You sit across from her, you articulate the way you feel,
and you can say, "I have to have boundaries, but you know what?
"We can still do things together."
I thought we were okay after Amsterdam.
And then, at the reunion, it's like "Shut up!"
It was like, what? What?
I just can't imagine, like, harboring
such bad feelings for two years.
I have tried to move on with Shannon,
but I just feel like she wants me to be
the villain in her story.
Does Tamra have amnesia?
That a couple weeks ago,
she said some very horrible and hurtful things about me.
I regret that, for sure.
But I was mad about what she had said to me
about me.
I'm hoping all this nonsense will stop.
Maybe just talk to her and be like,
"Hey, we did things we don't, like, stand by."
- Right. - "Let's move on."
And if she makes a big fuss,
then you're like, okay, I got my answer.
We can only go up from here.
- Mm-hmm. - Right?
Yep.
[upbeat music]
Look, I had these made for you.
Aw, this is fun. How cute!
- So that's you. Hot stuff. - Hot stuff.
- Uh-huh. - You're "big kiss."
Uh-huh.
Wow.
- Right? Isn't it awesome? - There's a lot to take in here.
Very-- look at these.
- Uh-huh. - Cute, huh?
Mm-hm. [birds tweeting]
I could do a wind chime.
Tyler, what's she doing today?
Her and the girls are out, doing their thing.
- I mean, the weather's amazing. - Oh, I'm so happy for her.
- She's been... - I'm telling you,
it's so funny because I feel like
managing the emotions of the kids,
it feels like a lot sometimes.
I gotta talk to Grayson because I feel like since
this ticket, he's beating himself up.
Like, a lot.
I think it's bigger than that.
You do?
I see the change in Grayson.
It's the relationship that he doesn't have with his dad.
Everything that goes wrong goes back to Will for Ryan.
Like this has nothing to do with Will.
I'm sure Ryan's not totally wrong,
that Gray would like more time with his dad, but I don't think
that this is what this is.
I would do anything to have a relationship
- with my children. - And same for me.
- I would never-- - To not say goodnight to them
and tuck them in? To not wake them up in the morning.
We're divorced. And I'm grateful that I have
100 percent custody with the kids.
Honey, this is, it's... you're taking it personal.
I'm talking about a father.
No, I'm taking it personal because I'm trying to compensate
for everything.
One, that their lives have changed.
Two, everything that we've lost.
Do you not think I don't feel the ----ing burden?
I'm so tired all the time.
And on the flip side of it, to be very honest with you,
I feel like I have to maintain this sh-- with you
because I know it's all too much for you.
Having the kids' dad not involved has definitely
had an impact on Jenn and I's relationship.
And it comes solely from the basis of,
I'm a father,
I believe a father should show up in a certain manner.
So I just want Jenn to be more clear and honest
with the kids so hopefully
we can support them the best that they need.
I want to know that, that Will's not always
gonna be in our marriage.
I... can't give you that.
I'm gonna call a spade a spade.
I feel this is having an impact on the kids.
Okay, and that I can hear.
Because I just need to figure out how
I want to go about that.
Okay.
Coming up.
Some people, after this happens,
they can't walk, they can't do anything.
But, sometimes, I'm really not grateful.
[upbeat music]
[peculiar music]
[phone buzzing]
Hello!
What are you doing?
I'm eating a pickle.
That sounds good.
So, your birthday was fun.
When I first walked in, I could not find you guys.
[laughter]
I don't know where to go.
Oh my gosh, now I see them.
Happy birthday!
I thought it was great.
But I think I'm just bummed by Jenn.
About your conversation?
I don't know if I feel like on one hand,
good for you for apologizing,
or, is that so there's backup there?
I don't think she's malicious at all.
I like her.
But you know, starting from the historical friends comment
that she repeated and put a little...
Tamra's a historical friend.
By the way, I do not talk like that, first of all.
Which totally changes the tone and the context.
I've been having such a great time with Jenn,
but now I feel really ----ed over by her.
We have a very different opinion of what friendship is.
It's making me want to take a step back.
Oh, so I didn't tell you.
So, after we left the birthday party,
I'm in the kitchen with the kids
and I see, like, the Dior shopping bag.
So, Shane was like, "Oh, who got you that?"
I was like, "Well, it's Carmella."
And he's like, "Well, open it. Let's see what it is."
And she bought a nice, like, gold Dior clutch.
- It was beautiful. - Wow.
And we were at my birthday party.
She said multiple times to me,
"Oh, are you gonna open your gifts?"
Was the intent to actually just try to be funny
and give me a nice gift?
Or did she want maybe a moment or something?
Are we really thumbing our nose at a Dior clutch?
Like, what's the bar?
Maybe the intent was to show the rest of the women
"I'm a baller and I have money and clout, so look at me."
However because it was given to me,
I think it's completely appropriate.
Can a friendship be bought with a designer bag?
I mean... yes.
Thank you, Carmella.
But, anyway, there was something else in the bag,
and I pulled it out, and it was a vibrator!
Okay, that's weird.
Now you've lost me.
- Hello. - Oh hey, look who
- just walked in. - Who you talking to?
- Hi Emily! - Hi!
And I'm telling you, Shane, he swooped in
and grabbed it and had it out of the room
before the kids could even like look up and see what it was!
I get it.
If you would've opened it, she would've said,
"If you don't like the bag, go [bleep] yourself."
Get it?
- Oh, I see! - That was a good one, right?
Isn't that the greatest joke ever?
Please, stroke him.
So I don't have to later. Thank you.
[laughter]
[Latin music]
[ice shaking]
Hello.
- Hi. - How are you?
I'm doing good, thank you, how are you?
Good.
So I'm waiting on two other girlfriends.
[chuckling] You're a good height for me.
- I know, right? - This is so beautiful.
When you have time, just hot coffee.
- Yes? Of course. - Okay. Thanks.
Brr!
- Hi! - Hi!
Gosh, I'm glad you're by the fire.
I would get up, but I'm not...
Don't get up.
- Hello! - Hello!
- How are you? - Hi!
You look so cute!
Are we going to school? [overlapping]
- So cute, what is this for? - We're going to work, Victoria.
- I love you too. - How are you?
- Hi.
You look beautiful.
- Hello. - Hi.
I'm just breezy.
I would love a coffee, actually.
- Sounds good. Be right back. - Thank you.
You're sweet, thank you.
I had to do the seminar today.
So I teach women about finance in retirement.
- Thank you. - That's so smart.
Vicki, actually I want to ask your opinion
on something because I feel like
you're a good person to ask.
And our brunch.
I would love a breakfast burrito.
Breakfast burrito.
I'm doing the enchilada with the chorizo.
Chorizo, okay,
'Cause I need to ask your number one...
- Oh, yes. - I wasn't even thinking
about prenup or anything like that.
Are you doing a prenup with Travis?
I don't know. Like I feel like the smarter thing to do
is to just say whatever assets I have currently
- go to my children, you know? - For sure. I agree.
100 percent.
I've really come to love Gina.
She's really grown up and I'm super proud of her
about talking about finance with me.
I've been through a divorce.
I've been through a remarriage.
I definitely see a little bit of myself in her.
She's a go-getter.
I'm just curious, like, what you're doing because
you're with Michael and I feel like
you're in a similar situation with me.
We will never commingle money.
- Ever. - Are you engaged?
Well, he says he has a ring.
- But... - Okay.
Some days he gets mad at me so he says,
"I'm not giving it to you!"
He says he has a ring but he hasn't--
He's had it for over a year.
I don't have a diamond ring on me yet.
Oh, I thought Mike got you one.
He says it's in the safe and he's not gonna
give it to me until I shape up.
You be a good girl, and maybe you'll get it.
Is he not asking, 'cause like
oh, maybe it's not gonna work out?
Or, why's he sitting on the ring?
I don't need a ring to--
But you want that.
But we talk about it.
That would cheapen the ring for me.
Like it's so rude.
It's going to marry us as a couple,
but you use it to like dangle this thing of like,
maybe you get it, maybe you don't.
I'm not the girl that needs him to get down on one knee
- and be this big surprise. - Right. I understand that.
It would be like a joint decision.
Yeah.
For me, I would be like screw you,
and your ring.
Thank you, so pretty.
So tomorrow,
I'm meeting with Tamra and Shannon
and we're gonna do lunch.
Why are you in the middle--
Because they're both my friends.
You know, I love Shannon.
And I don't condone what Tamra has done.
But I do think we have to lead by example
and say we gotta move on.
But I find Shannon has moved on.
I don't think she can forget,
and I don't like speaking--
'Cause you can't forget when, when, three weeks ago,
- and they're having dinner-- - And it happens again.
- And she's getting beat again. - It happens again.
It was really unfortunate that Tamra and Shannon
had this fight at my ultima girls trip moment.
I gotta just get Shannon a little bit, like,
not so guarded with her.
Yeah, she was so quiet last night.
And I gotta Tamra, stop attacking her.
- Mm-hmm. - Stop attacking her.
- Heel, bitch, heel. - Like, yeah, heel.
I'll walk out of a situation if it's gonna get too toxic.
But I think Tamra feeds on it.
It makes me anxious. It makes me scared of her.
They should just ----ing cut the head off
and start fresh from here.
Because there's no way-- - Oh, you can cut my leg off,
if you want. Yeah, right at the knee.
[groans]
Coming up.
I look on Amazon,
and I see there's seven different vibrators.
She calls me, she's like "Presley, I just bought
"the best present ever!" [laughing]
[upbeat music]
[traffic din]
[dog barks]
How was your day today?
It was good, actually.
Sean's been here, She did my extensions.
How was yours?
I'm just happy I made it out of school.
I'm happy you went to school
because I feel like half of the week last week
you didn't go to school,
and I'm pretty positive
I could go to jail for not sending my kid to school.
Oh, okay.
Honey, you miss a lot of school.
Yeah, but I have a great reason.
First, I needed a tan.
No.
And then, I needed to watch my show.
No.
Honey, your dad's gonna get pissed.
He doesn't have to know.
Can we talk about something positive?
Oh, I was going to buy groceries, and I look on Amazon,
and I see there's seven different vibrators.
I didn't know what kind she wanted.
[laughter] And I was like...
You should've seen what she said to me.
She calls me and she's like
"Presley, I just bought the best present ever."
I'm not, like, a vibrator connoisseur,
so I ordered like 7 just to make sure
that the vibrator fit inside the purse.
It was a gag gift.
No pun intended.
[chuckling]
I think you went a little overboard.
I'm very aware, like,
if somebody didn't have a sense of humor,
it might not be received well.
But, whether it's a purse,
a vibrator, the only thing that should be said is thank you.
Very much.
So I went to the store today to get cough drops.
I didn't know that you had to be over 18.
- Serious. - Anyways, the guy like,
next to me, he offered to buy it for me,
but I just said, like, thank you.
For [bleep] sake, Presley.
Presley, you should've accepted it.
No, you do not accept gifts from men.
Ever. [laughing]
Being in Playboy was a wake-up call for my own,
like, self-awareness.
I would have guys looking in my windows,
and just, like envelope fan mail that would come to the house.
It just was kind of unnerving in ways.
And so I'm ultra-cautious when it comes to my kids.
That's a creep.
You gotta carry the mace.
But don't use it on a windy day.
One time, I had to mace somebody.
It was something that happened that was very inappropriate,
and then I saw all these other girls crying.
I maced the whole crowd.
If that were me, I would sue you.
[upbeat music]
Rita, you coming
or are you too tired to come up the rest of the stairs?
[knocking on door]
[dog barks]
- Emily! - Hello? Hi.
It's the greeters. Hello babies!
It's the greeters. The greeters, they need baths.
You look cute.
Thank you.
Remember I told you about my closet?
Wait, what is this? This is a hall closet.
No, I have no room in my closet
'cause Ryan takes the whole closet.
I like, keep random weird stuff.
But I want someone to tell me,
"You're actually never gonna wear that."
Okay, I can do that.
Okay, this is a dress.
That's in the no pile.
What was I thinking with this?
Get rid of it.
This has gotta go 'cause it's got snags all over it.
Is this the waist?
No. It's a dress.
All right, I'm gonna go put it on.
Oh, good.
- Look! - Really pretty.
Oh, thank you.
So would you wear that?
I mean, I'd wear it in Vegas.
Why does everything look so good on you?
I like it. I like it.
We should be making Ryan get rid of stuff.
Oh my gosh, he has sparkly shoes.
Ryan's closet is even more interesting.
He's in his pink era.
There was like the floral section.
It looks like upholstery from some grandma's couch.
Then there was like, the black t-shirt section.
How many sleeveless black t-shirts does he have?
I mean, I'm married to a man
that wears In-N-Out t-shirts every day.
So, I mean, that was a lot for me to take in.
I'm gonna use some of this lotion, I'm a little ashy.
I've got lotion everywhere. So, by all means.
So, what's going on with the kids, anything new?
I literally got a text from Evie the other day,
"Mom, I want to come home. I feel so ugly today."
- Mm... - I'm like, no.
Grayson's getting pulled over for 105 miles an hour
and then the next few days after his ticket,
he, like, holed up in his room
and something shut down
and it set in him so hard.
Gray is the kid that's like full of life
and light and I notice the lightness isn't there.
He's in his room, like, he's withdrawing from something.
I don't know how to fix this.
I don't know what to do.
Last year when I was going through everything with Luke,
he needed so much attention and Shane and I were so focused
on him that I really just lost,
like, a connection with Annabelle,
like, she felt like she was abandoned.
When Annabelle shared how she felt,
it just took me backward to when I was a child
and how I felt.
I don't want to perpetuate the same dynamics,
I want to do better.
I've made such an effort to just reconnect with her.
If she needs to be picked up from cheer at 9 PM
then I'm gonna drive there at 8:30,
put my phone down, I'm gonna watch
her last 30 minutes of cheer
so that she sees me sitting there.
As soon as she sees me, her face lights up.
And it's such a small little insignificant moment
but it means so much and that's all I need
to validate that it's monumental in her life.
I probably needed you tell me this because I feel
like I do the same stuff.
- I'm tired. - I know, but I...
We just... We can't. We have to just...
We have to lay in bed and watch movies with them.
You're so right.
We have to.
Coming up...
She told me that you said, well,
yeah, "I can call iHeart now
"and say that they can invite you to events now."
- Oh, my God-- - She's really hurt by it.
- She's hurt by it! - Oh, my God!
[upbeat music]
Hello!
Hey!
- I made it! - How many hours did it take you
- to get here? - Two hours.
It's a Saturday, like, why is there traffic?
We didn't even think about the fact that you
should've slept over.
Teddy and I used to spend so much time together.
I want a glass of champs.
So, I have my Pedialyte and my champs.
Okay.
And then she got sick and then she kind of
isolated herself for a while.
This is like a day out for me.
I know!
But now she's kind of turned a corner, she's doing better.
So, as much time as I can spend with her, I do.
Let's go upstairs.
That's a lot of medication on the table.
A lot of issues around here.
I know.
Are you still on a lot of medication?
I'm no longer on any of the ones that give me the shakes.
Yeah, you're not shaking as much.
Yeah, I know. Isn't that exciting?
Oh, my God. Yeah, what does the doctor say?
Um, he says it just takes time,
like, some people, after this happens, they can't walk,
they can't do anything.
So... the fact that
you're in your situation right now, you should really
be grateful but...
sometimes I'm really not grateful.
I know.
I start to feel like I'm letting everybody down,
you know, I had to--
You're not letting anybody down.
It was extremely difficult to watch Teddy battling cancer,
going through treatment,
immunotherapy once a month,
her hair falling out after radiation.
Is your memory getting better?
I think slowly, I'm starting to get it again.
I know, I miss my partner in crime.
I don't have the same fire.
- It'll come back. - It's gotta come back.
All we thought about was losing her and she would be
like, "Bitch, I ain't dying."
Teddy Mellencamp is one strong woman.
So, I know you were struggling
last year because nobody had any answers and we were all scared.
How are you feeling now?
It, it was horrible
and I don't want to make this about me whatsoever
but to watch somebody that you love
and to hear the doctor say,
like, "She could have six to nine months to live."
I finally got, like, the best friend ever with you.
I know.
And then I would go around these girls and I just felt
like they just didn't care.
They just didn't care.
I think when it comes to some of your girlfriends
you gotta have people that you really open up to
and tell the good, the bad and the ugly too.
You're so used to being disappointed that
you're then gonna be an asshole to somebody
but then you're the bigger asshole than somebody else.
Doing this, constantly quitting, getting so angry.
I'm dealing with the most ---ing
difficult thing in my life right now and you are not helping!
Watching Teddy battle cancer,
it put me over the edge last year
but it taught me a lot.
You're a really good friend,
you want the best, so, like, show up.
Before I was like, oh, you're cheating on her
and you're not paying your taxes and all those things.
And now I'm like in the big scheme of things,
does it really matter?
Life is just too short.
- I love you. - I love you more.
Thank you for being such a good friend.
[upbeat music]
I'm starving.
I feel, like, wait until dinner to be able to eat.
- I know. - Hi, welcome.
Hello. Two? Is this table good?
This is perfect.
- Alright, thank you. - Enjoy.
- Hi. - Hey, how are you doing?
I'm well, thank you. How about you?
- Good, thanks. - Good, thank you.
Can I actually have a hot water with lemon?
Thank you.
I'll do water and a chamay green.
Let's go.
Can I get you guys any food started at moment?
Yes.
- Sure is. - Let's go, bro.
[laughing] It's the best thing.
- You can eat mussels? - I'm doing it.
I'm gonna do it.
That's awesome.
Alright, guys, thank you.
This reminds me of, um, Emily's birthday party
dressed as Nonna Gina. Ordering the hot water
with lemon was, like, so on brand for that situation.
Yeah.
Actually, Jen has this new friend Carmella.
She used to be married to a big time, uh,
football player, a quarterback.
I like that.
So, she told me she has her real estate license
but she's definitely not a relator.
She said she's a developer.
She takes some clients on and she like helps them
build and design their homes.
I wouldn't call that a developer, but--
Well, neither would Vicky Gunvalson.
She gave me the same story that she gave you.
That's she's a developer and there are properties,
some properties she takes down to the studs.
That's not a developer, that's a rehab-er.
Honestly, I'm not completely clear on what Carmella does
but she obviously knows real estate words.
So, that's good.
Like... [laughs]
Alright, well, what else is going on?
This is all just, like, very not romantic,
but what are your thoughts about a prenup?
Look, the, the, the reasoning behind a prenup is very logical.
It's not like I'd take it personal or I'm not like
viewing it like, oh, we're gonna break up, so...
Yeah.
It's not about the fact that I make more money than Travis,
it has more to do with the fact
I've worked incredibly hard and I want to protect myself
and I want to protect my kids.
So, this prenup it's, it's non-negotiable for me.
When are we...
When do we want to get married?
I told you, I'm not talking about it for six months, so...
Well, I just want to bring up me changing my name.
When I went with Luka to get his glasses,
I was like, you know what?
I'm making this about me
and my feelings but I don't even really know how the kids
actually feel about it.
If I get married to Travis,
usually, generally what happens
is, you know, the girl takes the boy's name, right?
So, I'm just curious, though,
how it makes you feel that Mommy would no longer
be a Kirschenheiter and now she would be a Mullen.
I wouldn't really care,
we're still family.
It immediately made me feel like
maybe I am making a bigger deal of this than it actually is.
I'll be honest, I don't think the kids think about that
one time ever in their life.
I'm the only one thinking about this? Okay.
Yeah. I'll be honest.
You're kind of making it seem like I'm making a big deal
out of this, I'm not.
[awkward beat]
Okay.
It's not about you having my last name.
Right, I understand that.
My last name to me is not about my ex-husband,
it is about my children.
If I were to marry Travis and take on his last name,
the same last name as his children
and change my name away from my kid's last name is,
that feels wrong to me.
Look, if we can't be together
because you have your ex's last name,
then there's bigger issues.
Yeah.
It's not like we're going to call off the wedding.
The wedding that we're not even planning yet?
If we're happy and content, hell, who gives a f...
- Who cares? - Yeah, I mean, [bleep] it.
I guess I could hyphenate it.
[laughter]
Okay.
Probably.
Alright.
Coming up...
Are people being unkind to you?
Yeah.
[sobbing]
[upbeat music]
This is my mother's.
Why do I have this?
Oh, my God, this is so...
moldy, just like my childhood.
[upbeat music]
[lid pops]
Aw, [bleep].
[vacuum whirs]
[upbeat music]
How about the plug?
Isn't this supposed to go in the wall?
God, this thing has got a mind of its own.
[upbeat music]
Come get your medicine.
You can't see what I'm doing.
No, look the other way.
Oh...
Oh, well, that was a fail.
Come on, Hunch.
Yeah, that's a good boy!
[quirky music]
No!
[sighs]
Darn it.
[chill music]
Okay, what do you want before you go?
- Okay. - I want these.
Okay.
Have you ever done them in the microwave?
No.
You sound like your dad when you do that.
You know that?
I think I picked up on it.
I think you've picked up on a few things.
You know the other day when I was so mad
about your stupid ticket and I was going off on you.
I guess I just want to check in,
is everything okay with you?
Uh...
Heh. Things have just been hard.
[chuckles nervously]
Sometimes it feels like a lot.
And so it did not help.
- The ticket didn't help? - Mm-mm.
[sad music]
But I... That was stupid by me, so...
I don't really know what you're referencing with
"everything that's a lot," right?
- Are you mad at me? - No.
No, no. I'm not mad at you.
It's just--
It's my parents aren't together anymore.
I'm with you basically seven days a week
and I love that, that's fine, but I...
You want more time with Dad?
Your parents aren't together anymore,
is that something that's still weighing on you?
Yeah, it's, it's...
It impacts everything I do every day.
I don't see my dad!
I'm sorry.
Every day that he wakes up,
it's hard for him because of a decision I made,
like, I did that.
I did that to him.
All I'm gonna say is it sucks.
It sucks.
I thought he was okay.
I thought, like, we're so many years past it
and, like, we've come out on the other side and we haven't.
I'm a 17-year-old, Mom.
There's people that don't like me,
there's things that are said about me,
there's things I go through myself.
The immaturity, maybe, of other people,
is that what you're dealing with?
Yeah.
Are people being unkind to you?
Yeah.
You're like the kindest person I've ever known.
I don't even understand that.
[sighs]
[shaky exhale]
[Jenn sobbing]
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry!
I'm the ----ing sorry one.
- Mom... - Yes, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that it didn't work.
I'm sorry that everything went upside down
and I love you so much
and I'm doing the best that I can.
I just...
[sobbing]
I'm sorry that I got so mad about your ticket
but it's actually out of fear
because Grayson if I didn't have you,
if you would've hit a rock,
if you would've lost control
and I lose you, I lose everything.
I love you so much and I think--
I, I think you know there's nothing that
I wouldn't do for you.
[sighs]
When it comes to your dad and I,
I'm not gonna stop working on that.
Yeah, it'd just be nice if things were easy again.
If anybody had told me how painful it was gonna be
for my kids,
maybe I would've dug my heels in
but what's been done has already been done
and there's not enough sorrys that I can say to Gray
that's gonna take that away from him.
That is gonna be his story for his whole life.
Alright.
Alright?
[laughter]
Come here.
[Jenn exhales]
Mom, you're squeezing me.
Yeah, good talk.
[upbeat music]
Hello there.
- Good afternoon. - I love that sign on the front.
Thanks.
Did you do that because the Housewives
have been eating here sometimes?
[laughter]
How are you, Vicky?
I love it. Good to see you.
The last time we were at the Quiet Woman,
it wasn't so quiet.
How are you?
I'm good, I'm sitting in the middle of the two monkeys.
So, let's if we can get through this.
See how it goes.
If Tamra doesn't stay calm and not use any bad words,
----, drunk, broke.
There's gonna be a code red, there's gonna be table flipping,
this is gonna be plate launching,
this is going to be everything we don't want it to be.
[upbeat music]
[door squeaks] Hi.
Hello, Tamra.
- How are you? - How are you?
I'm well.
Vicky's waiting patiently.
Oh, the infamous table where Shannon threw the plate.
This isn't my plate, you ----ing bitch!
Well, she only says it when she's ordering too much food.
Sit down. How are you?
- I'm good. I love you so much. - I love you, too.
I didn't blow dry my hair today, I'm heading out to the desert.
And I'm gonna go to your desert house
when you invite me.
I'm waiting.
[awkward beat]
Okay, listen, before Shannon gets here,
I think I'm gonna start with this, what do you think?
You know what, Shannon,
we've both done things to each other,
I've been hurt, you've been hurt,
let's not hurt each other and let's move forward.
Okay. And I'm gonna add one more thing on there.
I think maybe we need to start with, "I'm sorry," before--
Oh, I'm not apologizing.
Why wouldn't we?
Does it hurt you? Does it...
[whacks] ...hurt you? Ow.
Does it hurt you?
No, because I did it all last year.
Obviously, it wasn't sincere or it didn't work.
[upbeat music]
Good afternoon, Shannon.
- How are you? - I'm doing well.
Well, hello, my love!
Hello.
We're back to the scene of the crime.
Oh, God.
At the table.
[laughter] Yeah.
Is Tamra going to acknowledge
hurtful things that she's done in the last couple months?
[stammering]
My hopes aren't that high.
Ladies, are you ready to order?
Yes. I would like an artichoke and a steak salad, please.
You got it.
Do you have any bread by chance?
Yeah, I do.
The cheese bread.
Let's just rub it on our asses,
that's where it's gonna go, so...
I know, I know...
[sighs]
[awkward music]
[ice sloshing]
Um...
Anyway.
Thank you.
[sighs]
I'm waiting for the Jeopardy music
to come on any minute now.
Okay, ladies, uh, somebody's gotta make the first move.
Let's move along.
I'm very busy, I got things to do.
I'm thankful that Vicky put this together
and I know Shannon that, um,
the two of us have done a lot to each other to hurt each other
but I would like to get to a place and just move forward
where we can have fun and get along.
To me it's interesting that we're here because
what was it, a month ago?
You sat at a booth with a bunch of women
and said I was drunk, that I'll never get a man
and that I had no money.
How do you think that makes me feel?
How do you think it makes me feel--
No, answer the question.
[dramatic music]
You said I was a drunk,
that I'll never get a man and that I had no money.
How do you think that makes me feel?
How do you think it makes me feel--
No, answer the question.
Okay. Um, probably not good
and I'm sorry that I said that.
Okay? I'm sorry.
There you go.
- Sorry, but. - But how is it--
No.
How does it make me feel
when you get on a live or something and you say
to somebody that it was a gift
for me to you to even film with me?
I gave you a gift and this is between us.
I filmed with you...
I even went on a ----ing trip
where you packed a book called How Not To Be A Miserable Cow.
Right. I, I-- Because I did move forward from two years ago
to last year. I just brushed things under the rug.
- I actually laughed with you-- - Well, I don't think
that's moving forward, though, Shannon.
I tried very hard to move forward with you
and you just didn't--
You really didn't--
We're making headway. We're making headway.
But, but--
I feel like sometimes you're the pot calling the kettle black
'cause I met with Emily and she told me
that she went up to you to hug you
and then you said, well,
"Yeah, I can call iHeart now and say that they can invite you
"to events now."
I was joking with her and I told her.
She goes, you didn't and I go, I'm joking.
Well, it hurt her.
I don't know that making a joke about something that was
clearly hurtful right after it happened
but that's how you roll.
- Oh, my God, this is the thing. - She's really hurt by it.
Yeah but she's hurt by it.
Oh, my God!
You guys hold on to every little thing.
Don't say, "you guys," she just told me a story.
Oh, my God, I can't!
She told me the story yesterday.
Don't get defensive.
You guys pick up on the stupidest little things
and try to make it into something big.
She's just saying she was hurt.
God!
Let's stay in our lane.
Like, I really love both of you.
But I am in the middle but I don't have family here.
My girlfriends are sacred to me,
I love you guys
and we know Tamra's got a spitfire personality.
I'm well aware of that.
Aging has taught me a lot about friendships
that we can't take them for granted.
Nothing's been that bad where they can't move on.
I mean, they haven't slept with each other's boyfriends
or husbands.
They haven't stolen from each other.
They just got sharp tongues.
I just want them to get back together,
like the good old days, the Tracy Miko days.
Sincerely, I am sorry.
I am sorry for hurting you
and I'm happy that you're in a good place right now.
- Thank you. - I just want to be around
you in that happy place.
- So, we can do that. - I'm, I'm... Absolutely.
- That would be amazing. - Ecstatic about that.
- That would be amazing. - Okay.
- Okay? - Thank you.
I am absolutely willing to move forward and have fun and laugh.
Yay! [clapping]
And again, I don't want to hurt anybody, it's not my intention.
- I know. - Well, I don't think any of us
want to hurt anybody but sometimes it happens,
it's usually your fault.
[dramatic beat]
I'll take the blame.
[laughter]
Woo-hoo!
Hallelujah, praise the Lord!
You know, it's the shoulder thing, it helps.
Thank you. Thank you.
Mission accomplished.
Checked that one off the list.
I gotta go back to work.
One, two, three.
[chiming music]
[laughter] We're back!
Can we do, like, a three-way text from time to time?
We used to have that.
Absolutely!
Next time on The Real Housewives of Orange County.
Go. [blowing]
[laughter]
Are you ever going to have children?
Should we freeze your sperm?
[chuckles]
Is it Gina you're upset with?
Just be happy for your friend
that somebody got her a Dior bag, how 'bout that?
Everybody has put how they feel about you.
What?
I am not a Debby Downer.
That was me.
You ----ing think I'm obsessed with her.
- No. - But I don't understand--
[overlapping shouting]
Let me talk!
Heather, all I've heard tonight is you talking.