1 00:00:20,407 --> 00:00:22,779 - Hi. - These are 100% candy. 2 00:00:22,812 --> 00:00:25,117 They're not edibles. 3 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:26,520 - You're not gonna believe this. 4 00:00:26,554 --> 00:00:28,791 I don't have an outfit. - What happened? 5 00:00:28,824 --> 00:00:30,260 - The dress didn't work. 6 00:00:30,294 --> 00:00:32,131 It didn't--it didn't work. 7 00:00:32,164 --> 00:00:33,701 - Oh, my gosh, my first reunion. 8 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:35,805 Do you hear that? 9 00:00:35,838 --> 00:00:37,408 Popping that cherry, girl. 10 00:00:37,441 --> 00:00:40,047 - You're very offended by the word "pornography." 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,517 - It's not pornography. - Really? 12 00:00:41,550 --> 00:00:44,556 I think Merriam-Webster would beg to differ. 13 00:00:44,590 --> 00:00:46,794 - Rachel? - Yes? 14 00:00:46,827 --> 00:00:48,296 - I don't have any shoes. 15 00:00:48,330 --> 00:00:50,501 I don't know what to do. 16 00:00:50,535 --> 00:00:52,806 - I don't know if you called the wrong Rachel. 17 00:00:52,839 --> 00:00:54,475 - Oh, I'm sorry. 18 00:00:54,509 --> 00:00:56,379 The two of you always talk over. 19 00:00:56,412 --> 00:00:57,348 And it's--can I have water? 20 00:00:57,381 --> 00:00:59,085 'Cause I have, like, cotton mouth right now. 21 00:00:59,118 --> 00:01:01,356 - I mean, you sound ridiculous. 22 00:01:01,389 --> 00:01:03,527 - The water wasn't hydrating my mouth. 23 00:01:05,197 --> 00:01:06,165 - I'm not a narcissist. 24 00:01:06,199 --> 00:01:08,403 Is your studio--do you have pictures of yourself? 25 00:01:08,436 --> 00:01:11,276 - Yes, but I'm also a narcissist. 26 00:01:11,309 --> 00:01:12,712 - Oh, my God, this is so gay. 27 00:01:12,746 --> 00:01:13,881 - It has built-in underwear. 28 00:01:13,915 --> 00:01:16,185 - This is the kind of bullsh-- that always happens to me. 29 00:01:16,219 --> 00:01:17,589 My nose starts bleeding. 30 00:01:17,622 --> 00:01:20,294 - I mean, what's the worst that can happen? 31 00:01:20,327 --> 00:01:21,396 - That's not even true. 32 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:25,505 It's like talking to a child that just makes stuff up. 33 00:01:25,538 --> 00:01:26,707 - I'll just head back there. - Yeah. 34 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:28,844 - And maybe one of these dresses will work in person. 35 00:01:31,684 --> 00:01:33,420 - I'm gonna be bringing the cast in. 36 00:01:33,453 --> 00:01:35,390 - Standing by. - Can I take a Ferrari home? 37 00:01:35,424 --> 00:01:37,428 - Thank you, Jen. - Thank you. 38 00:01:37,461 --> 00:01:38,698 If you just treat me like the dog, we'll be good. 39 00:01:38,731 --> 00:01:40,200 - Wow. 40 00:01:40,233 --> 00:01:42,171 - Treat me like the dog, that's the standard. 41 00:01:42,204 --> 00:01:44,610 - Wow. Very pretty. 42 00:01:44,643 --> 00:01:46,647 - They just found a dress for me, like, 20 minutes ago. 43 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,616 - That dress looks perfect. 44 00:01:47,649 --> 00:01:50,253 - It's a small town, and I had heard things. 45 00:01:50,287 --> 00:01:51,523 - That is so inappropriate. 46 00:01:51,557 --> 00:01:53,326 - You pulled the pin out of the grenade, 47 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,263 and you handed it to Gina and me. 48 00:01:55,297 --> 00:01:58,336 - You did too many ding-dong things this year, 49 00:01:58,370 --> 00:02:00,508 and now you're coming to pay the piper. 50 00:02:00,541 --> 00:02:02,545 - Quiet as possible, please. Here we come. 51 00:02:02,579 --> 00:02:03,648 - I could have blown up your family. 52 00:02:03,681 --> 00:02:05,384 I knew David was having an affair. 53 00:02:05,417 --> 00:02:07,589 By the way, you knew David was having an affair. 54 00:02:07,622 --> 00:02:10,360 - Un-----ing-believable. 55 00:02:16,907 --> 00:02:19,278 - I am Andy Cohen, and welcome 56 00:02:19,312 --> 00:02:21,349 to "The Real Housewives of Orange County" 57 00:02:21,382 --> 00:02:24,221 season 16 reunion. 58 00:02:24,255 --> 00:02:27,494 Joining me are the dynamic women of the OC, 59 00:02:27,529 --> 00:02:31,469 who prove again and again that the show that started it all 60 00:02:31,503 --> 00:02:34,175 is still worth the squeeze. 61 00:02:34,208 --> 00:02:35,578 Hey, ladies. - Hi, Andy. 62 00:02:35,611 --> 00:02:36,580 - Hi, Andy. - Hi. 63 00:02:36,613 --> 00:02:37,448 - Great to see you all. 64 00:02:37,481 --> 00:02:40,320 Heather, it's amazing to have you back 65 00:02:40,354 --> 00:02:41,456 after all these years. 66 00:02:41,489 --> 00:02:43,259 Can you believe it's been five seasons 67 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:45,497 since we sat together at a reunion? 68 00:02:45,531 --> 00:02:47,635 You still have your frozen embryos, right? 69 00:02:47,669 --> 00:02:49,338 - I have two frozen embryos. 70 00:02:49,372 --> 00:02:51,342 They're immortalized in the etched glass in the house. 71 00:02:52,712 --> 00:02:53,948 - Excuse me? 72 00:02:53,981 --> 00:02:55,250 - All right, Shannon, you may remember 73 00:02:55,283 --> 00:02:56,587 me talking about this. 74 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:58,323 This is the etched window. 75 00:02:58,356 --> 00:03:01,262 So there's four birds, one for each kid. 76 00:03:01,295 --> 00:03:03,534 - Oh, cute. - So here's one. 77 00:03:03,567 --> 00:03:05,505 And there's two eggs for my frozen embryos 78 00:03:05,538 --> 00:03:06,740 that I still have. 79 00:03:06,774 --> 00:03:07,842 - Okay. 80 00:03:07,876 --> 00:03:10,380 - Do you know it's actually the ten-year anniversary 81 00:03:10,414 --> 00:03:11,717 of when I first started the show? 82 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:13,554 - Well, you look the same, by the way. 83 00:03:13,587 --> 00:03:14,856 - Oh, thank you. 84 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:17,394 - Hey, Gina. - Hi, Andy. 85 00:03:17,428 --> 00:03:19,666 - You look fantastic, especially the hair. 86 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:20,702 - Thank you. 87 00:03:20,735 --> 00:03:23,941 - We always have to keep giving props to your hair. 88 00:03:23,974 --> 00:03:25,611 - Yes, thank you. 89 00:03:25,645 --> 00:03:27,214 I'll keep taking them. 90 00:03:27,247 --> 00:03:28,984 - Hello, Emily. - Hi, Andy. 91 00:03:29,018 --> 00:03:30,487 - Congratulations, you just celebrated 92 00:03:30,521 --> 00:03:32,959 your 13th wedding anniversary. 93 00:03:32,992 --> 00:03:34,261 - That's correct. 94 00:03:34,295 --> 00:03:36,667 - What does lucky number 13 have in store for you? 95 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:38,236 - I think it's gonna be great. 96 00:03:38,269 --> 00:03:40,273 Shane and I have had our bumps along the way, 97 00:03:40,307 --> 00:03:42,244 but we're just in such a great place now. 98 00:03:42,277 --> 00:03:43,614 - Shannon, great to see you. 99 00:03:43,647 --> 00:03:45,718 - Hi, Andy. - You look amazing as ever. 100 00:03:45,752 --> 00:03:46,687 - Thank you. 101 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,526 - I know reunion day can be kind of stressful. 102 00:03:49,559 --> 00:03:50,762 Did Heather, your dealer, 103 00:03:50,795 --> 00:03:52,464 give you a little microdose before-- 104 00:03:52,498 --> 00:03:53,501 - No. 105 00:03:53,534 --> 00:03:54,569 - I may have something in my pocket 106 00:03:54,603 --> 00:03:56,272 for you a little bit later. 107 00:03:56,305 --> 00:03:58,009 Hey, Dr. Jen. - Hey. 108 00:03:58,042 --> 00:03:59,513 - Great to see you. - You too. 109 00:03:59,546 --> 00:04:01,517 - I know everyone was really surprised 110 00:04:01,550 --> 00:04:03,754 to see that you recently put your house on the market. 111 00:04:03,788 --> 00:04:05,525 Where are you moving? 112 00:04:05,558 --> 00:04:07,996 - I'm trying to move back to Laguna Beach, where I grew up. 113 00:04:08,029 --> 00:04:11,503 - Okay, and it's fair to assume 114 00:04:11,537 --> 00:04:14,008 that Ryne will be moving with you? 115 00:04:14,041 --> 00:04:16,279 - I mean, time will tell. 116 00:04:16,312 --> 00:04:17,549 - But you're joking, of course. 117 00:04:17,582 --> 00:04:18,918 - We'll see. 118 00:04:18,951 --> 00:04:20,320 - Okay. - Not joking. 119 00:04:20,353 --> 00:04:21,456 - You know, it doesn't feel like a joke. 120 00:04:21,489 --> 00:04:23,359 - Yeah, it doesn't feel like a joke. 121 00:04:23,393 --> 00:04:26,365 - And last but certainly not least, hey, Noella. 122 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:27,635 - Hi, Andy. - Great to see you. 123 00:04:27,669 --> 00:04:28,771 - You as well. 124 00:04:28,804 --> 00:04:31,342 - How are you feeling about your very first reunion? 125 00:04:31,375 --> 00:04:33,413 - Excited, overwhelmed, and underprepared, 126 00:04:33,446 --> 00:04:35,050 but I think that's a good place. 127 00:04:35,083 --> 00:04:36,753 - Overwhelmed and underprepared. 128 00:04:36,787 --> 00:04:38,289 - Yeah. - I like that. 129 00:04:38,323 --> 00:04:39,693 I hope you brought a stack of receipts 130 00:04:39,726 --> 00:04:41,763 and not a stack of vaginas. 131 00:04:41,797 --> 00:04:43,567 - I'll take the latter. - Okay. 132 00:04:43,601 --> 00:04:46,405 You know, our set is a little different this year. 133 00:04:46,439 --> 00:04:50,581 We are surrounded by icons of Orange County. 134 00:04:50,615 --> 00:04:53,587 We've got the Huntington Beach Pier. 135 00:04:53,621 --> 00:04:55,658 We've got the original gates 136 00:04:55,691 --> 00:04:58,764 from the show open for 16 years. 137 00:04:58,797 --> 00:05:01,737 Fun fact, that's where Tammy Knickerbocker 138 00:05:01,770 --> 00:05:03,507 and Lou Knickerbocker lived, 139 00:05:03,541 --> 00:05:06,547 when they lived in Coto de Caza. 140 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:08,517 - This is where we used to live. 141 00:05:08,551 --> 00:05:09,519 You know what? You go up. 142 00:05:09,553 --> 00:05:10,788 You go down in life. What's up? 143 00:05:10,822 --> 00:05:12,659 Who cares? You just got to be happy. 144 00:05:12,692 --> 00:05:14,094 I don't think I miss the big house. 145 00:05:14,128 --> 00:05:16,399 I think I miss my life, you know, 146 00:05:16,432 --> 00:05:18,971 'cause I was married, happy, two kids. 147 00:05:19,004 --> 00:05:20,508 Bye. 148 00:05:20,541 --> 00:05:22,779 - Well, after a long hiatus from the show 149 00:05:22,812 --> 00:05:24,481 in which she may or may not 150 00:05:24,516 --> 00:05:27,387 have simply been lost inside her own house, 151 00:05:27,421 --> 00:05:30,493 Heather Dubrow made her triumphant return 152 00:05:30,528 --> 00:05:32,832 to "The Real Housewives of Orange County." 153 00:05:32,866 --> 00:05:34,134 Watch this. 154 00:05:34,168 --> 00:05:36,907 - Hello, guys? 155 00:05:36,940 --> 00:05:39,411 I'm back. 156 00:05:39,445 --> 00:05:42,484 Gosh, what has been going on in the last five years? 157 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:44,823 We finished building this dream house. 158 00:05:44,856 --> 00:05:46,560 - Did you have a view like this? 159 00:05:46,593 --> 00:05:48,564 - No. - Oh, my God. 160 00:05:48,597 --> 00:05:50,535 This house is legit. 161 00:05:50,568 --> 00:05:52,104 - They're turning 18. 162 00:05:52,137 --> 00:05:53,507 - Legal. 163 00:05:54,743 --> 00:05:55,845 Thank you. 164 00:05:55,878 --> 00:05:57,749 - Our children are getting older, 165 00:05:57,782 --> 00:05:58,918 which is crazy. 166 00:05:58,951 --> 00:06:01,122 I don't know how this is happening. 167 00:06:01,155 --> 00:06:03,694 - I have the rainbow flag in my bio. 168 00:06:03,727 --> 00:06:04,729 - Right. 169 00:06:04,763 --> 00:06:06,432 - And I got a comment that said, 170 00:06:06,465 --> 00:06:07,936 "14 and already gay." 171 00:06:07,969 --> 00:06:09,539 - Your friends know you're gay. 172 00:06:09,573 --> 00:06:11,543 What do you care what one person says? 173 00:06:11,577 --> 00:06:12,645 - I don't know. 174 00:06:12,679 --> 00:06:13,914 - You know who you are, 175 00:06:13,948 --> 00:06:16,385 and it's so amazing to watch. 176 00:06:16,419 --> 00:06:20,393 So thank you for teaching me so much. 177 00:06:20,427 --> 00:06:22,030 - Thank you for being there for me. 178 00:06:23,433 --> 00:06:24,502 - You're so sweet. 179 00:06:24,536 --> 00:06:26,540 You're not supposed to make me cry right at the top. 180 00:06:26,573 --> 00:06:28,677 - Oh, that gets you. 181 00:06:28,711 --> 00:06:30,146 - Yeah, of course. - Yeah. 182 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:34,188 - You know, it's, like, the best hardest job ever. 183 00:06:34,221 --> 00:06:36,526 - Heather, Kelly from Cocoa Beach, Florida, said, 184 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,498 "I must say, I always thought you were a total ice queen. 185 00:06:39,532 --> 00:06:41,168 "But seeing you with your daughters this season 186 00:06:41,202 --> 00:06:43,473 "warmed my heart. 187 00:06:43,507 --> 00:06:46,479 "What was it like when not one but two of your children 188 00:06:46,513 --> 00:06:48,416 came out?" - I was honestly-- 189 00:06:48,449 --> 00:06:49,819 I was surprised that Katarina 190 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:52,424 was so comfortable talking about it. 191 00:06:52,457 --> 00:06:55,698 I was so proud how open and honest she was. 192 00:06:55,731 --> 00:06:56,967 - Yeah, I thought that-- 193 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,471 that was valuable for parents to see 194 00:06:59,506 --> 00:07:01,576 who maybe have kids who are coming out. 195 00:07:01,610 --> 00:07:04,683 I remember when I came out, my mom felt that-- 196 00:07:04,716 --> 00:07:05,751 it was a different time. 197 00:07:05,785 --> 00:07:07,588 She didn't think I would ever be able to have kids, 198 00:07:07,622 --> 00:07:08,824 and I didn't either. - Right, right. 199 00:07:08,857 --> 00:07:11,763 - And she felt like she was grieving the loss of the life 200 00:07:11,797 --> 00:07:13,499 that she wanted for me. 201 00:07:13,534 --> 00:07:14,468 - Mm-hmm. 202 00:07:14,502 --> 00:07:16,540 - And did you go through anything like that, 203 00:07:16,573 --> 00:07:18,510 where you had to recalibrate what your expectations 204 00:07:18,544 --> 00:07:19,846 for your children were? - No. 205 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:21,783 Straight people don't have children either. 206 00:07:21,817 --> 00:07:22,919 - Right. - I mean, you just don't know. 207 00:07:22,952 --> 00:07:24,088 - And don't get married and... - Yeah. 208 00:07:24,121 --> 00:07:25,457 - Yeah. 209 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:26,827 Noella, as a bisexual woman, 210 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:28,998 what did you think when you saw that motherly side 211 00:07:29,031 --> 00:07:30,901 of Heather with her daughters? - I loved it. 212 00:07:30,935 --> 00:07:32,672 I absolutely loved our first lunch ever together. 213 00:07:32,705 --> 00:07:34,542 I wasn't sure I wanted to say it in the moment, 214 00:07:34,576 --> 00:07:35,544 but it was important. 215 00:07:35,578 --> 00:07:36,546 I'm like, "I am bisexual, 216 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:37,749 and so I don't want that to be misconstrued." 217 00:07:37,782 --> 00:07:39,819 And you just reached across the table, grabbed my hand, 218 00:07:39,853 --> 00:07:41,757 and said that "I've got that in my family 219 00:07:41,790 --> 00:07:42,992 as well with my children." 220 00:07:43,026 --> 00:07:44,495 I like to see boys and girls. 221 00:07:44,529 --> 00:07:45,998 I'm bisexual. Hi. Anyway, yeah. 222 00:07:46,032 --> 00:07:47,635 - I have kids that are bisexual. 223 00:07:47,669 --> 00:07:48,637 When you come walk around our house, 224 00:07:48,671 --> 00:07:49,773 you'll see a lot of flags. 225 00:07:49,806 --> 00:07:50,908 - Yay! 226 00:07:50,941 --> 00:07:52,945 I was like, "That's amazing," so... 227 00:07:52,979 --> 00:07:55,116 - Another thing that was great to see 228 00:07:55,150 --> 00:07:56,720 is, I mean, you and Terry, who, you know, 229 00:07:56,753 --> 00:07:59,559 you've been through it and you've had issues, 230 00:07:59,592 --> 00:08:01,495 you seem really, really good. 231 00:08:01,530 --> 00:08:02,632 How did you get to that place? 232 00:08:02,665 --> 00:08:05,571 - You know, I think we've worked on our marriage a lot, 233 00:08:05,604 --> 00:08:06,673 as you have to. 234 00:08:06,707 --> 00:08:07,842 We've been together over 25 years. 235 00:08:07,875 --> 00:08:09,679 And you have good days and bad days. 236 00:08:09,713 --> 00:08:11,683 You have good years and bad years. 237 00:08:11,717 --> 00:08:14,556 Our worst year ever was captured on this show. 238 00:08:14,589 --> 00:08:15,925 So we're gonna have to work on your schedule, 239 00:08:15,958 --> 00:08:17,528 because I'm gonna need help, obviously, 240 00:08:17,562 --> 00:08:18,764 taking the kids to school. 241 00:08:18,797 --> 00:08:20,968 - Kill me. 242 00:08:21,002 --> 00:08:22,672 - You are a jerk. - Honey, come on. 243 00:08:22,705 --> 00:08:24,609 - I'm done. 244 00:08:24,642 --> 00:08:26,078 - I used the D word, "divorce." 245 00:08:26,112 --> 00:08:28,016 - Don't say that. 246 00:08:28,049 --> 00:08:29,786 We have just worked on it, 247 00:08:29,819 --> 00:08:32,157 and we've been able to sort of navigate through the years 248 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:34,763 and avoid the reality show curse. 249 00:08:34,796 --> 00:08:36,733 - All right, well, new housewife Noella 250 00:08:36,767 --> 00:08:39,906 made a splash with her provocative couture 251 00:08:39,939 --> 00:08:42,545 and shocking marital sexcapades. 252 00:08:42,578 --> 00:08:46,018 But before she could even say, "Sweet James," 253 00:08:46,052 --> 00:08:49,659 everything she knew about her marriage turned sour. 254 00:08:49,692 --> 00:08:50,828 Let's watch. 255 00:08:50,861 --> 00:08:51,997 - So your husband's an attorney? 256 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:54,034 - Yes. - So why sweet? Is he sweet? 257 00:08:54,068 --> 00:08:56,773 - He's the most sweetest, most authentic man. 258 00:08:56,807 --> 00:08:59,646 Like, it's not a brand. It is actually him. 259 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,683 - I saw that article. 260 00:09:01,717 --> 00:09:03,086 - I think, like, he is my best friend. 261 00:09:03,119 --> 00:09:04,956 Like, I want to, like, get it through to him. 262 00:09:04,989 --> 00:09:06,560 Like, I'm not fighting against you. 263 00:09:06,593 --> 00:09:08,564 Let's just come up with a plan together. 264 00:09:08,597 --> 00:09:11,570 It's--like, it's--right now, we're not in a good space. 265 00:09:11,603 --> 00:09:14,576 Somebody came to serve papers... 266 00:09:14,609 --> 00:09:15,978 - Wait, what? 267 00:09:16,011 --> 00:09:19,318 - He served you divorce papers with flowers? 268 00:09:19,351 --> 00:09:20,888 We don't want to keep these around. 269 00:09:20,921 --> 00:09:23,059 - Aah! - Throw it hard. 270 00:09:25,029 --> 00:09:26,800 - Bye, James. - Bye, James. 271 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:28,871 - Bye, James, bye. 272 00:09:28,904 --> 00:09:31,743 - So how did you and James meet? 273 00:09:31,777 --> 00:09:33,112 - Online. - You met online. 274 00:09:33,146 --> 00:09:34,949 - Yeah, well, it's a dating website, 275 00:09:34,983 --> 00:09:36,051 but it's, like, a naughty one. 276 00:09:36,085 --> 00:09:37,655 It's called SeekingArrangement. 277 00:09:37,688 --> 00:09:39,057 - Oh, you met on SeekingArrangement? 278 00:09:39,091 --> 00:09:40,661 - Yes, sir. 279 00:09:40,694 --> 00:09:44,803 - But SeekingArrangement is typically, I thought-- 280 00:09:44,836 --> 00:09:46,873 forgive me... - Sugar daddy, right? 281 00:09:46,907 --> 00:09:49,378 - For kind of--yeah... 282 00:09:49,411 --> 00:09:50,681 - It says that on the website. - Like, more of a sugar daddy. 283 00:09:50,714 --> 00:09:51,950 - Yeah. 284 00:09:51,983 --> 00:09:53,654 - I mean, there are attractive girls, 285 00:09:53,687 --> 00:09:56,125 and wealthy men is the standard, so... 286 00:09:56,158 --> 00:09:57,194 - Got it. 287 00:09:57,227 --> 00:09:59,732 How long were you together before you were married? 288 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:02,772 - We were five years and then one legal year of marriage. 289 00:10:02,805 --> 00:10:04,241 He was separated when I met him. 290 00:10:04,274 --> 00:10:05,376 - Okay. 291 00:10:05,410 --> 00:10:08,851 - And so once we realized that we could have children 292 00:10:08,884 --> 00:10:10,955 and I could start IVF, it was important for me 293 00:10:10,988 --> 00:10:13,760 to do the gathering of our family 294 00:10:13,794 --> 00:10:15,631 and do the picture of me in the white dress. 295 00:10:15,664 --> 00:10:17,802 And so we had a wedding ceremony, 296 00:10:17,835 --> 00:10:19,706 knowing that it wasn't fully legal. 297 00:10:19,739 --> 00:10:22,043 - 'Cause he was still married, right? 298 00:10:22,077 --> 00:10:24,181 - I didn't care about the actual 299 00:10:24,214 --> 00:10:26,018 piece of paper for a divorce. 300 00:10:26,051 --> 00:10:28,389 Anybody who's out there said I cared about money 301 00:10:28,422 --> 00:10:29,726 or, you know, gold-digging kind of thing. 302 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:30,928 - You must have cared about money. 303 00:10:30,961 --> 00:10:32,899 You met him on a website that's about attractive women... 304 00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:33,834 - I mean, you weren't on, like... 305 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:37,407 - Meeting wealthy guys. - Poordudes.com. 306 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,677 - Does that exist? 307 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:39,712 - It's an arrangement. 308 00:10:39,746 --> 00:10:40,915 - No, I know, but you just said 309 00:10:40,948 --> 00:10:42,384 you didn't care about money, so... 310 00:10:42,417 --> 00:10:43,654 - Okay, well, that wasn't in my mind 311 00:10:43,687 --> 00:10:46,192 when I wanted to build a family and love this man. 312 00:10:46,225 --> 00:10:49,064 - Noella, you told Gina at cryotherapy 313 00:10:49,097 --> 00:10:50,768 that you were not considering divorce, 314 00:10:50,801 --> 00:10:54,107 only to be served divorce papers a few days later. 315 00:10:54,141 --> 00:10:56,045 - Same day. - Same day. 316 00:10:56,078 --> 00:10:57,949 - How crazy is that? - Were you being 100% honest? 317 00:10:57,982 --> 00:11:00,988 Because I know that your ex maintains 318 00:11:01,021 --> 00:11:03,326 that you were going to file for a separation 319 00:11:03,359 --> 00:11:05,096 before he filed-- 320 00:11:05,129 --> 00:11:07,735 - And they--and they claim that they received notice 321 00:11:07,768 --> 00:11:09,706 from your attorney representing you 322 00:11:09,739 --> 00:11:11,041 that you were gonna file for separation. 323 00:11:11,075 --> 00:11:13,112 And that's why he filed in Puerto Rico, 324 00:11:13,145 --> 00:11:14,782 so he could get jurisdiction in Puerto Rico. 325 00:11:14,816 --> 00:11:15,951 - And that's a lie. - It was a race... 326 00:11:15,985 --> 00:11:17,020 - And that's a lie. 327 00:11:17,053 --> 00:11:18,924 - To see where jurisdiction could be established, 328 00:11:18,957 --> 00:11:20,059 California or Puerto Rico. - And you say that's not true. 329 00:11:20,093 --> 00:11:21,428 - It's a lie. I mean, like, that just-- 330 00:11:21,462 --> 00:11:23,132 - I'm sure it's in the file. - It's a lie. 331 00:11:23,165 --> 00:11:26,171 - What happened that made James file for divorce? 332 00:11:26,205 --> 00:11:28,075 - There was a lien put on the property 333 00:11:28,109 --> 00:11:29,478 that my name is associated with, 334 00:11:29,512 --> 00:11:31,081 and he legally should have told me that. 335 00:11:31,115 --> 00:11:33,854 Once the cameras were around and all these tax things 336 00:11:33,887 --> 00:11:36,458 and all these--it just was like, why would he be here 337 00:11:36,492 --> 00:11:37,695 having different conversations? 338 00:11:37,728 --> 00:11:39,064 - What was his reaction to you joining the show? 339 00:11:39,097 --> 00:11:40,199 - He was ecstatic. 340 00:11:40,233 --> 00:11:42,003 - He was? - He wanted it. 341 00:11:42,037 --> 00:11:43,439 - Because he maintained on social media 342 00:11:43,472 --> 00:11:46,145 that part of the problem, in his eyes, 343 00:11:46,178 --> 00:11:48,784 was that you went all in on the show. 344 00:11:48,817 --> 00:11:50,955 - If he ever took me to the side and said, 345 00:11:50,988 --> 00:11:52,792 "Listen, babe, I can't do this. 346 00:11:52,825 --> 00:11:53,927 It could damage our family." 347 00:11:53,961 --> 00:11:55,063 - You would have-- you would have chose... 348 00:11:55,096 --> 00:11:56,733 - In a heartbeat. - Staying with him. 349 00:11:56,766 --> 00:11:57,500 I love my husband. 350 00:11:57,535 --> 00:11:58,904 I like my child having a father. 351 00:11:58,937 --> 00:12:00,173 - I don't know if I believe that. 352 00:12:00,206 --> 00:12:02,177 - I don't believe that at all. - I don't believe that at all. 353 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:13,767 - If he ever took me to the side and said, 354 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,303 "Listen, babe, I can't do this. 355 00:12:15,336 --> 00:12:16,806 It could damage our family." 356 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,042 - You would have-- you would have chose... 357 00:12:18,075 --> 00:12:19,779 - In a heartbeat. - Staying with him. 358 00:12:19,812 --> 00:12:21,181 I love my husband. 359 00:12:21,215 --> 00:12:23,085 I like my father having-- my child having a father. 360 00:12:23,119 --> 00:12:24,354 - I don't know if I believe that. 361 00:12:24,388 --> 00:12:25,958 - I don't believe that at all. - I don't believe that at all. 362 00:12:25,991 --> 00:12:27,795 - By the way, we had been speaking to you 363 00:12:27,828 --> 00:12:30,033 in seasons past about coming on the show. 364 00:12:30,066 --> 00:12:32,170 - And my husband was chartering the chopper 365 00:12:32,203 --> 00:12:36,546 and wanting to make sure that I had the best chance possible... 366 00:12:36,579 --> 00:12:38,182 - And I think he was... - To have this opportunity. 367 00:12:38,215 --> 00:12:40,253 - On board with it until the tax stuff came out. 368 00:12:40,286 --> 00:12:42,057 No, I know. I am speculating. 369 00:12:42,090 --> 00:12:44,494 But I really feel like when the tax stuff came out, 370 00:12:44,529 --> 00:12:45,931 I think it was embarrassing for him. 371 00:12:45,965 --> 00:12:47,500 It's embarrassing for his business. 372 00:12:47,535 --> 00:12:49,505 I think he didn't want to have anything to do with the show. 373 00:12:49,539 --> 00:12:50,975 I think he pulled back. 374 00:12:51,008 --> 00:12:52,945 And I think you said, "Screw you. 375 00:12:52,979 --> 00:12:55,216 I'm gonna be famous. I want to be on this show." 376 00:12:55,249 --> 00:12:56,987 And you went and lived in your house in Orange County. 377 00:12:57,020 --> 00:12:59,257 And you filed--you were gonna file for separation. 378 00:12:59,291 --> 00:13:01,095 And you wanted to separate yourself from him 379 00:13:01,128 --> 00:13:02,932 because you wanted to be on the show. 380 00:13:02,965 --> 00:13:04,067 - You're really stretching to get to that point. 381 00:13:04,101 --> 00:13:04,836 - That's what I think. 382 00:13:04,869 --> 00:13:05,904 And I don't think it's a stretch. 383 00:13:05,938 --> 00:13:08,810 - We slept together the day before he left. 384 00:13:08,844 --> 00:13:10,146 If there really was-- 385 00:13:10,179 --> 00:13:11,816 - It's hard for me to sit here, 386 00:13:11,850 --> 00:13:13,887 because for multiple people now to be 387 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,826 telling her what she was thinking, 388 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:17,828 what her intention was-- - Who? 389 00:13:17,862 --> 00:13:18,664 - Thank you. 390 00:13:18,697 --> 00:13:20,099 - I never said what she was thinking. 391 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,103 I said--I prefaced it by saying-- 392 00:13:22,137 --> 00:13:24,007 - And it's creepy. - It's what? 393 00:13:24,041 --> 00:13:25,844 - It's creepy. - You know what? 394 00:13:25,878 --> 00:13:27,380 It is not creepy for me, as an attorney... 395 00:13:27,414 --> 00:13:28,382 - So okay. You're right. 396 00:13:28,416 --> 00:13:30,153 - To look at your case from a legal standpoint. 397 00:13:30,186 --> 00:13:31,155 - I chose this show. 398 00:13:31,188 --> 00:13:32,324 Like, I'm just--listen. 399 00:13:32,357 --> 00:13:36,031 I would really like to be believed when I'm telling you 400 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:40,173 authentically and wholeheartedly here, 401 00:13:40,206 --> 00:13:42,043 I was very committed to that man 402 00:13:42,077 --> 00:13:43,914 and very much committed to that marriage. 403 00:13:43,947 --> 00:13:46,953 - When's the last time you saw him face-to-face? 404 00:13:46,986 --> 00:13:48,289 - Two days after coming back from New York, 405 00:13:48,322 --> 00:13:50,126 right after "Watch What Happens Live." 406 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:51,395 His attorneys reached out to mine. 407 00:13:51,428 --> 00:13:53,099 He said that he'd be in Orange County 408 00:13:53,132 --> 00:13:55,103 and he wanted to see his son. 409 00:13:55,136 --> 00:13:56,840 - So he saw your son last week? 410 00:13:56,873 --> 00:13:57,842 - He saw our son. 411 00:13:57,875 --> 00:13:58,944 - I want to talk about your house in Puerto Rico. 412 00:13:58,977 --> 00:14:02,150 How did the two of you end up buying a place there? 413 00:14:02,183 --> 00:14:03,954 - It was just all the closures going on in California. 414 00:14:03,987 --> 00:14:04,889 - Wait, can I ask a question, though? 415 00:14:04,922 --> 00:14:07,093 'Cause his attorney released a statement 416 00:14:07,127 --> 00:14:10,366 that said that you moved to Puerto Rico as a family 417 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,938 and that you became citizens of Puerto Rico. 418 00:14:12,972 --> 00:14:14,007 I mean, you can say whatever you want about attorneys... 419 00:14:14,041 --> 00:14:15,143 - But no. 420 00:14:15,176 --> 00:14:16,145 - But they're not gonna put things 421 00:14:16,178 --> 00:14:17,147 that aren't true in writing 422 00:14:17,180 --> 00:14:18,950 and disseminate it publicly. 423 00:14:18,984 --> 00:14:20,119 - I don't see, if you have two homes, 424 00:14:20,153 --> 00:14:22,925 why it's so outrageous if you would move your family-- 425 00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:24,962 - Especially during COVID and with a two-year-old. 426 00:14:24,996 --> 00:14:26,065 - I'm not saying it's outrageous. 427 00:14:26,098 --> 00:14:28,870 My point is, I'm trying to establish 428 00:14:28,904 --> 00:14:30,440 that they were residents of Puerto Rico. 429 00:14:30,473 --> 00:14:31,442 They lived in Puerto Rico. 430 00:14:31,475 --> 00:14:33,079 They moved to Puerto Rico. 431 00:14:33,112 --> 00:14:36,318 You did an Instagram post about moving to Puerto Rico. 432 00:14:36,351 --> 00:14:38,255 So then I understood why he filed in Puerto Rico, 433 00:14:38,289 --> 00:14:40,226 'cause that would be where jurisdiction is. 434 00:14:40,259 --> 00:14:42,063 - He's licensed in California. - So then it wasn't-- 435 00:14:42,097 --> 00:14:44,101 - We live in California. We're married in California. 436 00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:46,271 Our voter registration, our driver's license-- 437 00:14:46,305 --> 00:14:47,340 - You don't own a house in California. 438 00:14:47,373 --> 00:14:49,377 You own a house in Puerto Rico. I'm just saying. 439 00:14:49,411 --> 00:14:50,681 - If you buy a house-- 440 00:14:50,714 --> 00:14:52,050 - Okay, so if you buy a vacation home, 441 00:14:52,083 --> 00:14:53,152 then that's where you live? 442 00:14:53,185 --> 00:14:55,323 - So were you guys flying every ten days for vacation? 443 00:14:55,356 --> 00:14:56,325 - Yeah. 444 00:14:56,358 --> 00:14:58,129 - Noella, what's the status 445 00:14:58,162 --> 00:14:59,331 of your marriage now? 446 00:14:59,364 --> 00:15:01,068 You are officially divorced? 447 00:15:01,101 --> 00:15:02,237 - We are officially divorced. 448 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:04,441 California is gonna be deciding custody. 449 00:15:04,474 --> 00:15:07,948 The cool thing is, I can get married. 450 00:15:07,982 --> 00:15:11,221 - We've all heard rumors that you've been dating someone new. 451 00:15:11,255 --> 00:15:12,290 - Yes. 452 00:15:12,323 --> 00:15:13,960 - Can you tell us anything about him? 453 00:15:13,994 --> 00:15:15,096 - His name's Bobby. 454 00:15:15,129 --> 00:15:17,434 He's 33. 455 00:15:17,467 --> 00:15:18,670 - Wow. 456 00:15:18,703 --> 00:15:21,208 I heard he bought you a company. 457 00:15:21,241 --> 00:15:24,181 How'd you hear that? 458 00:15:24,214 --> 00:15:26,018 - That's what I heard. 459 00:15:26,051 --> 00:15:27,220 - Okay, fine. 460 00:15:27,253 --> 00:15:28,690 Yes, yes, he bought me 461 00:15:28,723 --> 00:15:31,996 an adult toy marketplace company. 462 00:15:32,030 --> 00:15:33,466 We just got it trademarked. 463 00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:37,140 It's called Playland, and I'm very excited about it. 464 00:15:37,173 --> 00:15:40,012 It was my Christmas present. 465 00:15:40,046 --> 00:15:41,415 - You had been dating a few weeks 466 00:15:41,448 --> 00:15:43,252 and he bought you it for Christmas? 467 00:15:43,285 --> 00:15:44,454 - What can I say? I'm good. 468 00:15:44,488 --> 00:15:46,291 - She has a good stack, apparently. 469 00:15:46,325 --> 00:15:48,295 - But what does a stack of vaginas mean? 470 00:15:48,329 --> 00:15:50,233 Like, to me-- 471 00:15:50,266 --> 00:15:51,301 Oh, yeah, it is a-- 472 00:15:51,335 --> 00:15:52,505 - Wait, can I see? - It's a stack. 473 00:15:52,538 --> 00:15:55,744 It's really a stack of vaginas. 474 00:15:55,777 --> 00:15:57,247 It's a stack. 475 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,117 Now we know. It's vertical. 476 00:15:59,151 --> 00:16:00,754 - You know the crazy thing, though, is? 477 00:16:00,787 --> 00:16:04,394 He considers anything with anybody cheating, 478 00:16:04,427 --> 00:16:07,100 so I think my stack days are retired. 479 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:07,968 - Wow. 480 00:16:08,002 --> 00:16:09,271 - Wait, can I ask a question, though? 481 00:16:09,304 --> 00:16:10,974 - It all matched up. 482 00:16:11,008 --> 00:16:12,310 - So was the stack of vaginas, was it just a photograph, 483 00:16:12,343 --> 00:16:14,447 or did he have sex with all three women? 484 00:16:14,481 --> 00:16:16,418 - No, he did not-- again, it was for me 485 00:16:16,451 --> 00:16:18,355 to have sex with these two other women. 486 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:20,059 He was more the voyeur. 487 00:16:20,092 --> 00:16:21,428 I believe there was, like, a blow job in there, but-- 488 00:16:21,461 --> 00:16:23,365 - So the reason to stack them up was... 489 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:24,434 - Photo op. - For the photo. 490 00:16:25,571 --> 00:16:28,142 - And then you are the symbol. - I wanted that photo. 491 00:16:28,175 --> 00:16:30,146 - Okay, and then you unassembled the stack. 492 00:16:30,179 --> 00:16:35,022 - And then I would have the other two women satisfy... 493 00:16:35,056 --> 00:16:37,026 That's why it was like, it's a birthday gift 494 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:38,429 kind of concept, because it was something that I had 495 00:16:38,462 --> 00:16:41,034 to plan for, like, a month in advance, 496 00:16:41,068 --> 00:16:42,237 but stack of vaginas. 497 00:16:42,270 --> 00:16:45,042 - Okay, all right, have any of you met Noella's new fella? 498 00:16:45,076 --> 00:16:46,144 - No. 499 00:16:46,178 --> 00:16:48,215 - He's picking me up tonight, so you could see him. 500 00:16:48,249 --> 00:16:50,453 - Congratulations. - Thank you. 501 00:16:50,486 --> 00:16:52,758 - Well, this season, Heather and Shannon's 502 00:16:52,791 --> 00:16:55,597 attempt to start fresh was quickly spoiled 503 00:16:55,631 --> 00:16:58,102 by some old rumors. 504 00:16:58,135 --> 00:17:00,439 And much like a table of untouched sushi, 505 00:17:00,473 --> 00:17:05,049 it seemed that their friendship was quickly going rank. 506 00:17:05,082 --> 00:17:06,018 Watch this. 507 00:17:06,051 --> 00:17:08,523 - So tell me about Heather. - She is funny. 508 00:17:08,557 --> 00:17:12,130 She was walking with a friend who says that she knows me. 509 00:17:12,163 --> 00:17:13,232 - Do you know Shannon Beador? 510 00:17:13,265 --> 00:17:14,301 - Yes, we know each other. 511 00:17:14,334 --> 00:17:15,336 I don't know if she'll remember me. 512 00:17:15,369 --> 00:17:17,073 - I go, "Oh, my God, Nicole Weiss." 513 00:17:17,106 --> 00:17:19,211 And she goes, "No, it's Nicole James." 514 00:17:19,244 --> 00:17:21,315 I don't want this to be the person 515 00:17:21,348 --> 00:17:23,085 that Heather's talking about. 516 00:17:23,118 --> 00:17:24,221 - My girlfriend Nicole-- 517 00:17:24,254 --> 00:17:25,489 by the way, that is her maiden name. 518 00:17:25,524 --> 00:17:26,626 You have the right person. 519 00:17:26,659 --> 00:17:28,495 - Shannon told Emily and I 520 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:31,569 that Nicole sued Terry Dubrow. 521 00:17:34,174 --> 00:17:35,443 - You gonna tell her? - Stop it. 522 00:17:35,476 --> 00:17:37,213 Like, I'm serious right now. 523 00:17:37,247 --> 00:17:38,482 I made a pact. 524 00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:40,587 We keep our mouths closed. 525 00:17:40,621 --> 00:17:42,123 - You sued me. 526 00:17:42,156 --> 00:17:43,492 Why didn't you tell me? 527 00:17:43,526 --> 00:17:46,532 - I was in my 20s. I was pushed by attorneys. 528 00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:50,273 - I really, honestly thought that you and I 529 00:17:50,306 --> 00:17:52,811 had a chance to be friends. 530 00:17:52,845 --> 00:17:54,281 - I'm a very loyal and trustworthy person. 531 00:17:54,314 --> 00:17:55,449 - You're not. 532 00:17:55,483 --> 00:17:59,124 If you ever come after me 533 00:17:59,157 --> 00:18:02,263 or my family ever again, 534 00:18:02,297 --> 00:18:05,236 you are going to lose a lot more 535 00:18:05,269 --> 00:18:06,606 than just my friendship. 536 00:18:07,641 --> 00:18:09,879 This will cost a lot. 537 00:18:09,912 --> 00:18:12,183 And I'm not saying this as a threat. 538 00:18:12,216 --> 00:18:13,520 I'm saying it as a promise. 539 00:18:16,158 --> 00:18:18,530 - Okay, lots to get into there. 540 00:18:18,563 --> 00:18:22,504 Where did the $30,000 of sushi go that night? 541 00:18:22,538 --> 00:18:23,339 Who ate it? 542 00:18:23,372 --> 00:18:25,443 - So a couple of people stayed late. 543 00:18:25,476 --> 00:18:27,447 Noella stayed, and Jen was there. 544 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,417 And then we had them all take it home 545 00:18:29,451 --> 00:18:31,556 to eat themselves, you know. - Okay, got it. Okay, good. 546 00:18:31,589 --> 00:18:34,160 Shannon, Valerie from Aurora, Colorado, 547 00:18:34,194 --> 00:18:35,496 says, "At the beginning of the season, 548 00:18:35,530 --> 00:18:36,866 "you seemed really hopeful about the future 549 00:18:36,899 --> 00:18:38,268 "of your friendship with Heather. 550 00:18:38,302 --> 00:18:41,542 "So why mention the lawsuit with Nicole to Gina and Emily 551 00:18:41,576 --> 00:18:44,381 just as she was coming back into your life?" 552 00:18:44,414 --> 00:18:47,253 - Okay, I didn't know that it was the same girl. 553 00:18:47,286 --> 00:18:50,393 I want to show you, this is the girl that I knew. 554 00:18:50,426 --> 00:18:52,230 Oh, see, I took pictures of myself. 555 00:18:52,263 --> 00:18:53,265 This is the-- 556 00:18:53,298 --> 00:18:54,502 - Don't show me anything you don't want me to see. 557 00:18:54,535 --> 00:18:57,140 - No, this is the girl. - Yes. 558 00:18:57,173 --> 00:18:59,311 - So when I heard that Nicole James was on the show, 559 00:18:59,344 --> 00:19:00,313 I'm like, "Oh, I don't know her." 560 00:19:00,346 --> 00:19:01,481 I didn't understand it. 561 00:19:01,516 --> 00:19:02,618 And I thought there's no way 562 00:19:02,651 --> 00:19:04,354 that you guys would be friends. 563 00:19:04,387 --> 00:19:05,256 It just didn't make sense to me. 564 00:19:05,289 --> 00:19:07,226 - So now you found out it is that girl? 565 00:19:07,260 --> 00:19:08,530 - I was hoping there was no lawsuit, because I-- 566 00:19:08,563 --> 00:19:09,665 - But who cared? It was 20 years ago... 567 00:19:09,699 --> 00:19:11,168 - But why does it affect you? - And it was dropped. 568 00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:12,170 Who cares? 569 00:19:12,203 --> 00:19:13,105 - Gina brought it up 570 00:19:13,138 --> 00:19:14,909 when you were in the bathroom at Javier's, 571 00:19:14,942 --> 00:19:15,944 going, "Are you gonna tell her?" 572 00:19:15,977 --> 00:19:17,548 And it's like, "Whoa." 573 00:19:17,581 --> 00:19:19,552 - No, I think she said-- - Let's let Gina respond. 574 00:19:19,585 --> 00:19:20,520 - Okay, then Gina respond. 575 00:19:20,554 --> 00:19:22,390 - It's best that you not respond for Gina. 576 00:19:22,423 --> 00:19:24,494 - I was encouraging you to do the right thing. 577 00:19:24,528 --> 00:19:25,564 - And what was the right thing? 578 00:19:25,597 --> 00:19:27,200 - To tell Heather. 579 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:28,335 It seemed like something that you were trying 580 00:19:28,369 --> 00:19:31,441 to plant or save for later that was gonna be a big deal. 581 00:19:31,475 --> 00:19:32,711 - I'm not gonna bring it up on camera. 582 00:19:32,745 --> 00:19:33,913 - And we would all move on. 583 00:19:33,947 --> 00:19:35,182 - I assume they've worked it out. 584 00:19:35,216 --> 00:19:36,051 - You know what, though, Shannon? 585 00:19:36,084 --> 00:19:36,953 - They've been friends for eight years. 586 00:19:36,986 --> 00:19:38,757 - That's not a fair statement to say 587 00:19:38,790 --> 00:19:40,426 you weren't gonna bring it up on camera. 588 00:19:40,459 --> 00:19:42,363 - Look, look, I get it. I get it. 589 00:19:42,397 --> 00:19:43,533 You think I'm planting stuff 590 00:19:43,566 --> 00:19:45,269 and I'm trying to stir up stuff. 591 00:19:45,302 --> 00:19:47,273 No. I was-- - Yes! 592 00:19:47,306 --> 00:19:48,342 - You think that because you are. 593 00:19:48,375 --> 00:19:49,344 - I'm not done! - Yes! 594 00:19:49,377 --> 00:19:50,212 - Stop interrupting me. 595 00:19:50,246 --> 00:19:51,749 I'm not gonna start yelling this time. 596 00:19:51,783 --> 00:19:52,918 - Okay. - You're yelling right now. 597 00:19:52,951 --> 00:19:54,220 - I'm not. No, because you guys-- 598 00:19:54,254 --> 00:19:55,957 the two of you always talk over. 599 00:19:55,991 --> 00:19:57,160 And it's--can I have water? 600 00:19:57,193 --> 00:19:58,462 'Cause I have, like, cotton mouth right now. 601 00:19:58,495 --> 00:20:00,299 - I need a water too. - Okay, well. 602 00:20:00,332 --> 00:20:01,969 - And water's in, guys. 603 00:20:03,807 --> 00:20:08,282 - The water wasn't hydrating my mouth in the trailer. 604 00:20:08,315 --> 00:20:09,284 - All right. 605 00:20:09,317 --> 00:20:11,421 Isn't telling two people who are on the show... 606 00:20:11,455 --> 00:20:13,392 - Who are on the show. - Planting the seed? 607 00:20:13,425 --> 00:20:14,962 - You know how this show works. 608 00:20:14,995 --> 00:20:16,398 You told two people on a show about two 609 00:20:16,431 --> 00:20:19,237 other people on a show at the very beginning of a season. 610 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:21,308 Did you honestly think that that was never gonna come up? 611 00:20:21,341 --> 00:20:22,310 - I-- 612 00:20:22,343 --> 00:20:24,247 - That's bullsh-- to think that. 613 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,116 You know what you did? 614 00:20:25,149 --> 00:20:26,652 You pulled the pin out of the grenade, 615 00:20:26,686 --> 00:20:28,590 and you handed it to Gina and me. 616 00:20:28,623 --> 00:20:29,491 - That's what you did. 617 00:20:29,525 --> 00:20:31,796 - I had no idea it was the same girl. 618 00:20:35,269 --> 00:20:36,639 - Coming up... 619 00:20:36,672 --> 00:20:38,977 - Eight years ago, I knew David was having an affair. 620 00:20:39,010 --> 00:20:40,680 By the way, you knew David was having affair. 621 00:20:40,714 --> 00:20:41,716 The world knew. 622 00:20:41,749 --> 00:20:44,354 - Un-----ing-believable. 623 00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,065 - You know what you did? 624 00:20:50,099 --> 00:20:51,702 You pulled the pin out of the grenade, 625 00:20:51,736 --> 00:20:53,706 and you handed it to Gina and me. 626 00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:54,575 That's what you did. 627 00:20:54,608 --> 00:20:55,744 - I had no idea it was the same girl. 628 00:20:55,777 --> 00:20:58,716 - But it doesn't matter. You just talk to the source. 629 00:20:58,750 --> 00:21:01,756 - Okay, but can we take it down to the core of why I was upset? 630 00:21:01,789 --> 00:21:03,660 Because I've gotten a lot of comments, 631 00:21:03,693 --> 00:21:05,530 "You should be blaming Emily and Gina 632 00:21:05,564 --> 00:21:07,066 and not Shannon." - Okay. 633 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,469 - And this is where the bullsh-- comes in. 634 00:21:08,503 --> 00:21:10,707 You could have talked to me. I met with you so many times. 635 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:13,445 - Yeah, I'm excited to see Nicole again. 636 00:21:13,479 --> 00:21:14,748 I looked on her social media, 637 00:21:14,782 --> 00:21:16,552 and she does not look-- she had, like, 638 00:21:16,586 --> 00:21:17,554 platinum blonde hair when I knew her. 639 00:21:17,588 --> 00:21:18,590 - I know, you were saying that. 640 00:21:18,623 --> 00:21:20,359 But I only know her looking like this, 'cause-- 641 00:21:20,392 --> 00:21:21,361 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 642 00:21:21,394 --> 00:21:22,598 - Okay, yeah. 643 00:21:22,631 --> 00:21:26,338 - You had ample opportunity to talk to me and say to me, 644 00:21:26,371 --> 00:21:28,676 "Hey, Heather, you must know that this is"-- 645 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:29,745 and maybe I would have said, "Oh, yeah. 646 00:21:29,778 --> 00:21:30,847 "That was years ago. 647 00:21:30,881 --> 00:21:31,816 It was dropped, no big deal." - I know you, Heather. 648 00:21:31,849 --> 00:21:33,820 - Let me finish. - If I would have said that, 649 00:21:33,853 --> 00:21:35,389 you would have blown up either way. 650 00:21:35,422 --> 00:21:36,826 No, I'm not bringing it up to you. 651 00:21:36,859 --> 00:21:39,665 - You broke the code, Shannon. 652 00:21:39,698 --> 00:21:41,736 No careers, no kids. 653 00:21:41,769 --> 00:21:43,606 This isn't a little side hustle. 654 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,777 I'm not making trucker hats. 655 00:21:45,811 --> 00:21:48,081 This is our bread and butter. 656 00:21:48,115 --> 00:21:49,618 You want to bring up some lawsuit 657 00:21:49,652 --> 00:21:51,789 that could have been potentially damaging 658 00:21:51,823 --> 00:21:53,358 to my husband's career? 659 00:21:53,392 --> 00:21:54,394 Are you out of your mind? 660 00:21:54,427 --> 00:21:57,366 - I told two people, 'cause it didn't make sense. 661 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,805 - I felt so betrayed, because you were the one person-- 662 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:01,408 we left on good terms. 663 00:22:01,441 --> 00:22:02,678 I've texted you over the years, 664 00:22:02,711 --> 00:22:04,782 when you were getting divorced and when I heard things about-- 665 00:22:04,815 --> 00:22:08,556 - And why not feel betrayed by Gina and Emily, 666 00:22:08,590 --> 00:22:09,424 who brought it up at the dinner? 667 00:22:09,457 --> 00:22:11,094 - They actually never said anything. 668 00:22:11,127 --> 00:22:12,163 - Can I say something about that? 669 00:22:12,196 --> 00:22:12,998 - Well, hold on. I want to know from-- 670 00:22:13,031 --> 00:22:15,504 I want to know from Heather. - So I was angry. 671 00:22:15,537 --> 00:22:16,572 - Okay. 672 00:22:16,606 --> 00:22:18,342 - But they immediately reached out to me and said, 673 00:22:18,375 --> 00:22:19,512 "Can we sit down with you? 674 00:22:19,545 --> 00:22:21,081 Can we talk to you?" And I said yes. 675 00:22:21,114 --> 00:22:22,918 I didn't hear from Shannon for, like, over a week. 676 00:22:22,951 --> 00:22:25,657 - Okay, but first of all, I apologized to you 677 00:22:25,690 --> 00:22:27,928 50 million times and tried to have a conversation, 678 00:22:27,961 --> 00:22:30,567 and you basically left me in your hallway. 679 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,436 So I did try and apologize. 680 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:34,575 - The reason why I was super pissed that night 681 00:22:34,608 --> 00:22:36,712 and I said it to you, that eight years ago, 682 00:22:36,746 --> 00:22:39,417 I protected your family. 683 00:22:39,450 --> 00:22:40,720 I knew David was having an affair. 684 00:22:40,754 --> 00:22:42,591 By the way, you knew David was having an affair. 685 00:22:42,624 --> 00:22:44,460 The world knew. And it was a-- 686 00:22:44,494 --> 00:22:46,599 - Wait a minute. You're telling me that I knew? 687 00:22:46,632 --> 00:22:47,734 - Yes, you guys sat at the reunion, 688 00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:49,772 the perfect couple, "We're so fine. 689 00:22:49,805 --> 00:22:50,640 Everything's fine." 690 00:22:50,674 --> 00:22:52,578 - Look, in the end, Andy, it's all good. 691 00:22:52,611 --> 00:22:53,913 I mean, our marriage is better than ever. 692 00:22:53,947 --> 00:22:57,420 We actually just got back from Hawaii two days ago, 693 00:22:57,453 --> 00:23:00,727 and he said to me, "I am closer to you today 694 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,566 than I was the day after we got married." 695 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,668 - I love Shannon, 696 00:23:04,702 --> 00:23:07,841 and I certainly love my kids, and I love my family. 697 00:23:07,874 --> 00:23:09,143 - And then it was months later when we started 698 00:23:09,177 --> 00:23:10,614 filming again... - How dare you? 699 00:23:10,647 --> 00:23:11,716 - That you went back and said-- 700 00:23:11,749 --> 00:23:12,851 - How-- - I'm talking now. 701 00:23:12,884 --> 00:23:14,622 - I found after filming. How dare you? 702 00:23:14,655 --> 00:23:15,624 - That is not true. 703 00:23:15,657 --> 00:23:16,792 You knew at the reunion. 704 00:23:16,826 --> 00:23:18,428 - Un-----ing-believable. 705 00:23:18,462 --> 00:23:20,199 - You knew at the reunion, Shannon. 706 00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:23,640 - I did, because we had been to relationship boot camp 707 00:23:23,673 --> 00:23:24,909 and we were working on our marriage. 708 00:23:24,942 --> 00:23:26,746 - But you pretended like it was all fine. 709 00:23:26,779 --> 00:23:28,883 And I'm saying I could have blown up your family. 710 00:23:28,917 --> 00:23:30,820 I would never do that. - Oh, okay. 711 00:23:30,854 --> 00:23:31,956 - And you-- - Thank you so much, Heather. 712 00:23:31,989 --> 00:23:33,760 - Yes, you're welcome. - Yeah. 713 00:23:33,793 --> 00:23:35,997 - What she's saying is, she knew info about David. 714 00:23:36,031 --> 00:23:37,601 She didn't blow up your life. 715 00:23:37,634 --> 00:23:40,540 She feels that you did blow up her life. 716 00:23:40,573 --> 00:23:41,441 - I didn't know if it was her or not. 717 00:23:41,474 --> 00:23:43,478 And when I realized I made the mistake 718 00:23:43,513 --> 00:23:45,550 of mentioning the possibility, 719 00:23:45,583 --> 00:23:47,688 because I was speculating, because-- 720 00:23:47,721 --> 00:23:49,591 - So you started a rumor. 721 00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:51,595 - Just for the record, everybody, let's make it clear. 722 00:23:51,629 --> 00:23:55,870 It's 100% my fault that I had too much to drink one night 723 00:23:55,904 --> 00:23:57,173 and told two girls. - That's your fault. 724 00:23:57,206 --> 00:23:58,810 - That is 100% your fault. - It is my fault. 725 00:23:58,843 --> 00:24:01,749 100% my fault that your dinner party was ruined. 726 00:24:01,782 --> 00:24:03,753 It's 100% my fault that this is out there in the public. 727 00:24:03,786 --> 00:24:04,922 - Nobody's saying that, though, Shannon. 728 00:24:04,955 --> 00:24:06,859 I've already accepted responsibility 729 00:24:06,892 --> 00:24:07,995 for how I missed that. 730 00:24:08,028 --> 00:24:10,734 - Sarah from Nashville said, "Heather, 731 00:24:10,767 --> 00:24:12,504 "Shannon repeatedly apologized to you, 732 00:24:12,537 --> 00:24:13,806 "so where do you come off threatening her 733 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,844 "like some sort of Mob boss? 734 00:24:15,877 --> 00:24:18,215 "I know you said it was a promise, not a threat, 735 00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:21,221 but it still kind of felt like a threat." 736 00:24:21,254 --> 00:24:24,494 - Yeah, all right, so I was very, very upset. 737 00:24:24,528 --> 00:24:25,764 I felt betrayed. 738 00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:29,470 When it comes to my family, I get insane, 739 00:24:29,505 --> 00:24:31,876 because this is my life's blood, 740 00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:33,646 and you don't mess with them. 741 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,750 And so I'm sorry if I came off sounding like a Mafia boss. 742 00:24:35,784 --> 00:24:37,019 - But you threatened my family. 743 00:24:37,053 --> 00:24:40,827 - If you ever come after me 744 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:43,933 or my family ever again, 745 00:24:43,966 --> 00:24:46,972 you are going to lose a lot more 746 00:24:47,006 --> 00:24:48,676 than just my friendship. 747 00:24:49,745 --> 00:24:51,849 This will cost a lot. 748 00:24:51,882 --> 00:24:53,986 And I'm not saying this as a threat. 749 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:55,590 I'm saying it as a promise. 750 00:24:58,095 --> 00:25:00,767 - I thought that she would, you know, sue me. 751 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,904 You talk about you get teary-eyed? 752 00:25:02,938 --> 00:25:06,011 That's one thing on this show that gets me teary-eyed, 753 00:25:06,044 --> 00:25:07,547 my kids. 754 00:25:07,581 --> 00:25:09,818 And I have them 100% of the time. 755 00:25:09,852 --> 00:25:12,256 And I have to take care of them. 756 00:25:12,289 --> 00:25:14,795 So I've worked my ass off for five years 757 00:25:14,828 --> 00:25:16,699 to get to where I am now. 758 00:25:16,732 --> 00:25:19,705 And for her to say that to me, that's like, 759 00:25:19,738 --> 00:25:20,840 are you kidding me? 760 00:25:20,874 --> 00:25:22,009 I'm a single mom. 761 00:25:22,043 --> 00:25:23,078 - I know. 762 00:25:23,111 --> 00:25:24,748 But I'll tell you something just for the record, 763 00:25:24,782 --> 00:25:26,284 I would never sue you. 764 00:25:26,317 --> 00:25:27,486 And whatever my words were, 'cause I 765 00:25:27,521 --> 00:25:31,061 was upset and felt very, very betrayed by you, 766 00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:32,564 and that's why I spoke like that. 767 00:25:32,597 --> 00:25:33,766 So I apologize for saying those things 768 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,670 and making you feel that way. 769 00:25:35,704 --> 00:25:36,505 But that would never-- 770 00:25:36,539 --> 00:25:39,243 I would never do anything like that. 771 00:25:39,277 --> 00:25:40,780 - Okay. 772 00:25:40,814 --> 00:25:42,751 - All right, well, we're gonna leave it there 773 00:25:42,784 --> 00:25:43,853 and take a break. 774 00:25:43,886 --> 00:25:44,922 We'll be right back. 775 00:25:46,157 --> 00:25:48,261 Coming up... 776 00:25:49,665 --> 00:25:52,336 - I'm here with the Real Housewives of Orange County. 777 00:25:52,369 --> 00:25:53,606 - Hi, sweetie. - Oh, my God. 778 00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:54,908 - Bye, Ben. 779 00:25:54,942 --> 00:25:56,010 - Have a good night, okay? 780 00:25:57,113 --> 00:25:58,281 - Oh! 781 00:26:05,697 --> 00:26:08,903 - Well, this season, as Shane finally passed the bar, 782 00:26:08,936 --> 00:26:11,976 Emily celebrated at all the bars. 783 00:26:12,009 --> 00:26:14,013 Let's take a look as Emily straddled the line 784 00:26:14,046 --> 00:26:16,886 between letting loose and being a loose cannon. 785 00:26:17,854 --> 00:26:19,257 - I read the trial briefs, 786 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:20,660 and I read the appellate briefs. 787 00:26:20,693 --> 00:26:23,265 - Those are the little things that matter. 788 00:26:23,298 --> 00:26:25,335 - The California Innocence Project 789 00:26:25,369 --> 00:26:28,943 is a group of attorneys who dedicate their time 790 00:26:28,976 --> 00:26:31,849 representing people in prison who are wrongfully convicted. 791 00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:34,721 - The thing that you are doing is so huge for us. 792 00:26:34,755 --> 00:26:35,957 - The world isn't perfect, 793 00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:38,729 and there's a lot of people that need help. 794 00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:41,702 You believe wholeheartedly that when you die, 795 00:26:41,735 --> 00:26:43,873 there's some type of afterlife. 796 00:26:43,906 --> 00:26:44,942 I want my kids to have a good life. 797 00:26:44,975 --> 00:26:46,745 I want them to be happy. 798 00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:49,050 I want them to kind of follow in your footsteps. 799 00:26:49,083 --> 00:26:52,022 Did Daddy tell you Annabelle is gonna get baptized? 800 00:26:52,056 --> 00:26:53,759 - What do I have to do? 801 00:26:53,793 --> 00:26:55,295 - She just has to have a good heart. 802 00:26:55,329 --> 00:26:56,732 - Thank you for being such a good dad. 803 00:26:56,765 --> 00:26:58,703 - Kids mean a lot. - I know. 804 00:26:58,736 --> 00:27:00,673 I don't do anything in moderación. 805 00:27:00,707 --> 00:27:02,777 I'm not a moderación kind of girl. 806 00:27:02,811 --> 00:27:04,815 Three to four tequila shots, I'm good. 807 00:27:06,719 --> 00:27:07,654 - I'm Tequila Emily. 808 00:27:07,687 --> 00:27:10,025 Five to six, I'm gonna some sh-- up. 809 00:27:10,058 --> 00:27:11,862 that little... - I-I-- 810 00:27:11,896 --> 00:27:15,035 - Tiny mini little bitch that looks just like me, 811 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:17,039 except I'm the better version of that. 812 00:27:17,072 --> 00:27:19,711 I had so many shots. 813 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,617 - Come with me. Come with me. 814 00:27:30,165 --> 00:27:31,902 - Does that mean butt sex is possible? 815 00:27:31,936 --> 00:27:34,040 - Okay, I'll let you do that. 816 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,450 - Oh, my gosh. 817 00:27:39,483 --> 00:27:41,354 Louise from Elmont said, 818 00:27:41,387 --> 00:27:42,824 "Emily was so much fun this season. 819 00:27:42,858 --> 00:27:44,895 "I was cracking up when she drunkenly agreed 820 00:27:44,928 --> 00:27:47,466 "to let Shane put it in her butt. 821 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:50,974 "Gina, what other wild things does Tequila Emily do 822 00:27:51,007 --> 00:27:53,011 that we have no idea about?" 823 00:27:53,044 --> 00:27:54,882 - I mean, I think you've seen a lot of it. 824 00:27:56,217 --> 00:27:57,754 - What else is there? 825 00:27:57,787 --> 00:27:59,958 - Emily, why has it been so important for you 826 00:27:59,992 --> 00:28:01,361 to be the truth teller this year? 827 00:28:01,394 --> 00:28:02,931 - If you feel a certain way about someone, 828 00:28:02,964 --> 00:28:04,935 then you should say it to them. 829 00:28:04,968 --> 00:28:08,041 And so I kind of was the bridge. 830 00:28:08,074 --> 00:28:10,078 And I know that sometimes it doesn't look the best. 831 00:28:10,112 --> 00:28:12,884 But I really don't do it with a malicious intent. 832 00:28:12,918 --> 00:28:13,853 - But if you're gonna do it, 833 00:28:13,886 --> 00:28:17,092 you need to make sure that your translation 834 00:28:17,126 --> 00:28:18,963 isn't misconstrued, exaggerated, 835 00:28:18,996 --> 00:28:20,165 or basically a telephone game. 836 00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:22,403 If you hurt someone's feelings 837 00:28:22,436 --> 00:28:23,839 when you have had too much to drink, 838 00:28:23,873 --> 00:28:24,908 then just say, "I'm sorry. 839 00:28:24,942 --> 00:28:26,411 I don't--I didn't mean to do that." 840 00:28:26,444 --> 00:28:28,014 - I did. We talked about that in Aspen. 841 00:28:28,048 --> 00:28:30,820 You came to me and said-- you said that you were hurt, 842 00:28:30,853 --> 00:28:31,822 and I said, "You know what, Shannon? 843 00:28:31,855 --> 00:28:33,058 That was not my intent," 844 00:28:33,091 --> 00:28:34,060 and I apologized. 845 00:28:34,093 --> 00:28:36,832 - Dayu from Paterson, New Jersey, said, "Emily, 846 00:28:36,865 --> 00:28:39,738 "as a nonreligious mother of religious children, 847 00:28:39,771 --> 00:28:42,877 "I totally related to your support of Annabelle's baptism. 848 00:28:42,911 --> 00:28:45,182 "But do you worry she'll listen to Mormon teachings 849 00:28:45,215 --> 00:28:46,986 more than she listens to you?" 850 00:28:47,019 --> 00:28:50,125 - No, I--you know, I feel like there are so many great things 851 00:28:50,158 --> 00:28:51,996 about the religion that you can pull from it 852 00:28:52,029 --> 00:28:54,000 and it can enhance your life. 853 00:28:54,033 --> 00:28:55,937 And the other things that I disagree with, 854 00:28:55,970 --> 00:28:59,076 I'm their mother, and I'm strong and I'm opinionated, 855 00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:00,813 and so they get the best of both worlds. 856 00:29:00,847 --> 00:29:03,118 They get some religion from their father, 857 00:29:03,151 --> 00:29:05,523 and then I feel like I kind of balance that out 858 00:29:05,556 --> 00:29:07,894 with another perspective. 859 00:29:07,928 --> 00:29:10,098 - Emily, Bryce from Baltimore wants to know, 860 00:29:10,132 --> 00:29:13,004 "What's up next for you with the Innocence Project? 861 00:29:13,038 --> 00:29:14,473 "It's really cool that you're putting your degree 862 00:29:14,508 --> 00:29:16,077 to such amazing use." - Yeah-- 863 00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:17,246 - I agree, what a great project. 864 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,516 - Thank you. 865 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,853 I have some fundraisers coming up. 866 00:29:20,887 --> 00:29:23,091 And then, you know, I do case review 867 00:29:23,124 --> 00:29:24,026 when I can find the time. 868 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:25,930 It's really about me-- it's about bringing 869 00:29:25,964 --> 00:29:28,001 awareness and raising money. 870 00:29:28,034 --> 00:29:29,070 - And, Emily, I said I'd be an expert witness 871 00:29:29,103 --> 00:29:31,174 for if you need any medical... - I will give them-- 872 00:29:31,207 --> 00:29:33,813 I will tell them, yeah. - Expertise on that, so... 873 00:29:33,846 --> 00:29:36,250 - Emily, you said that you have a better relationship 874 00:29:36,284 --> 00:29:37,286 with your dad these days. 875 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:38,889 What does that look like? 876 00:29:38,923 --> 00:29:41,461 - Well, it's not a lot. 877 00:29:41,494 --> 00:29:45,068 I was very driven growing up, 'cause my dad wasn't around. 878 00:29:45,102 --> 00:29:46,204 I went to law school. 879 00:29:46,237 --> 00:29:49,243 I just needed to prove that I was worthy. 880 00:29:49,276 --> 00:29:53,084 And that came from feeling abandoned, 100%. 881 00:29:53,118 --> 00:29:55,188 It's very minimal, but-- 882 00:29:55,222 --> 00:29:56,825 I'm sorry. 883 00:29:56,859 --> 00:29:58,562 - So sorry. - I'm sorry, Emily. 884 00:29:58,596 --> 00:30:01,902 - As I get older-- 885 00:30:01,935 --> 00:30:03,171 and I don't see my dad very much 886 00:30:03,204 --> 00:30:06,144 or talk to him very much, but when I do, 887 00:30:06,177 --> 00:30:08,281 it almost makes me more sad... - Yeah. 888 00:30:08,315 --> 00:30:10,152 - Because he's a really cool guy. 889 00:30:10,185 --> 00:30:11,889 Like, he plays guitar, 890 00:30:11,922 --> 00:30:13,559 and, like, he has a ponytail. 891 00:30:13,592 --> 00:30:14,961 - He's cool. - I mean, he's cool. 892 00:30:14,995 --> 00:30:16,164 He's a cool guy. 893 00:30:16,197 --> 00:30:17,232 And that's almost worse. 894 00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:19,838 It's like, sometimes I wish he was, like, a jerk, 895 00:30:19,871 --> 00:30:20,707 'cause then I could be like, 896 00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:22,042 "Oh, I'm so glad he's not in my life." 897 00:30:22,076 --> 00:30:24,080 - Could you get to know him better? 898 00:30:24,113 --> 00:30:25,148 Is he open to that? 899 00:30:25,182 --> 00:30:28,154 - It's just hard because there wasn't a foundation. 900 00:30:28,188 --> 00:30:31,127 You know, as a child, I didn't see him much. 901 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,564 - Do you think he watches the show? 902 00:30:32,597 --> 00:30:34,033 - I know he watches the show, 903 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:37,239 so it makes me sad sometimes when I-- 904 00:30:37,272 --> 00:30:39,110 - Almost like you were robbed of that, too, essentially. 905 00:30:39,143 --> 00:30:40,212 - 'Cause I don't want to hurt anyone, 906 00:30:40,245 --> 00:30:43,351 but I also want to be truthful about the way I feel. 907 00:30:43,385 --> 00:30:45,590 - And it hurts her a lot. 908 00:30:45,623 --> 00:30:48,328 - She was my first text message when I found out 909 00:30:48,361 --> 00:30:50,098 about my father's passing. 910 00:30:50,132 --> 00:30:53,004 And it's because we had a lot of conversations about fathers 911 00:30:53,038 --> 00:30:55,142 and wanting to integrate them into our lives 912 00:30:55,175 --> 00:30:57,046 for their grandchildren. 913 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:58,949 And I was like, "Just please learn from my mistake 914 00:30:58,983 --> 00:31:00,553 and just reach out if you can." - Mm-hmm. 915 00:31:00,586 --> 00:31:02,056 - 'Cause if you have someone that's willing 916 00:31:02,089 --> 00:31:03,592 to do that in your life-- 917 00:31:03,626 --> 00:31:05,630 - I know that you're mourning the loss of what you had 918 00:31:05,663 --> 00:31:07,967 with him as a child, but maybe you were 919 00:31:08,001 --> 00:31:09,170 meant to come together now. 920 00:31:09,203 --> 00:31:12,076 And I think the fact that he watches the show right now... 921 00:31:12,109 --> 00:31:13,178 - He does. 922 00:31:13,211 --> 00:31:14,881 - Is actually really touching to me, because he's... 923 00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:16,084 - It's adorable. - He never misses it. 924 00:31:16,117 --> 00:31:18,054 - Actually getting a window into your life 925 00:31:18,088 --> 00:31:19,156 that he never would have. 926 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:22,129 And maybe that really says something, 927 00:31:22,162 --> 00:31:23,999 that he watches the show. 928 00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:27,005 - I mean, I would love to have more of a relationship with him 929 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,341 and get to know him more. 930 00:31:28,374 --> 00:31:31,114 It's hard for me. I think I'm very stubborn. 931 00:31:31,147 --> 00:31:34,353 And I'm kind of stuck in a "you weren't there" mode. 932 00:31:34,386 --> 00:31:36,124 And it's hard for me to get out of that. 933 00:31:36,157 --> 00:31:37,961 And I need to get unstuck from that 934 00:31:37,994 --> 00:31:40,332 and just make more of an effort myself. 935 00:31:40,365 --> 00:31:41,400 - Right. 936 00:31:41,434 --> 00:31:42,504 Seems like whatever you do, 937 00:31:42,537 --> 00:31:44,240 you're gonna have to reconcile what you didn't have. 938 00:31:44,273 --> 00:31:45,375 - Yeah. 939 00:31:45,409 --> 00:31:46,578 - Have you ever talked to him about that 940 00:31:46,612 --> 00:31:47,981 and how you feel about it? 941 00:31:48,014 --> 00:31:49,250 - I've never really had a conversation 942 00:31:49,283 --> 00:31:51,254 about anything real. 943 00:31:51,287 --> 00:31:53,258 And so-- - Maybe it's time. 944 00:31:53,291 --> 00:31:54,661 - Maybe, yeah. 945 00:31:54,694 --> 00:31:56,330 - All right, well, we're gonna leave it there. 946 00:31:56,364 --> 00:31:58,301 We're gonna be right back with more 947 00:31:58,334 --> 00:32:01,340 from the Real Housewives of Orange County after this. 948 00:32:04,447 --> 00:32:06,050 Coming up... 949 00:32:06,083 --> 00:32:07,186 - Can we--this is between us. 950 00:32:07,219 --> 00:32:08,388 - That's ridiculous. - That's not true. 951 00:32:08,421 --> 00:32:09,724 - And again, I apologized. 952 00:32:09,758 --> 00:32:11,060 Should I do it three times? 953 00:32:11,093 --> 00:32:12,129 - Why are you talking to me like that? 954 00:32:12,162 --> 00:32:13,164 I just had an opinion, that was it. 955 00:32:13,198 --> 00:32:15,101 I'm not allowed to talk? 956 00:32:22,116 --> 00:32:23,586 - We've got a bit of a delayed cue. 957 00:32:23,619 --> 00:32:24,521 Here we go. 958 00:32:24,554 --> 00:32:26,157 - I'm watching your nipples. - Thank you. 959 00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:28,996 Let me know. - Okay. 960 00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:30,265 We're not paying for any more pixelation. 961 00:32:30,298 --> 00:32:32,269 - Like, that right one's dangerously close there. 962 00:32:32,302 --> 00:32:33,204 - Okay, and quiet as possible, please. 963 00:32:33,238 --> 00:32:34,440 - Which one? This one? - No, the other one. 964 00:32:34,473 --> 00:32:36,043 - Here we come. - Great. 965 00:32:36,077 --> 00:32:37,079 - Live shot in five, four. 966 00:32:37,112 --> 00:32:39,049 Gonna see you in three, two. 967 00:32:39,083 --> 00:32:42,322 - After years of setbacks, this season, Gina 968 00:32:42,356 --> 00:32:45,328 was finally thriving, driving, 969 00:32:45,362 --> 00:32:47,466 and looking all glowed up. 970 00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:49,303 Let's watch. 971 00:32:49,336 --> 00:32:51,174 - You still have a demon? - I don't know. 972 00:32:51,207 --> 00:32:52,242 I just feel weird. - Did you need an exorcism? 973 00:32:52,276 --> 00:32:53,111 - I haven't slept. 974 00:32:53,144 --> 00:32:54,648 - We'll get someone in and we'll fix it. 975 00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:56,083 - Yup, yup. 976 00:32:56,117 --> 00:32:58,121 - Ooh. 977 00:32:58,154 --> 00:32:59,223 - Yeah, it's a little-- 978 00:32:59,256 --> 00:33:00,192 it's a little creepy-crawly. 979 00:33:00,225 --> 00:33:01,194 We're gonna be fine. 980 00:33:01,227 --> 00:33:02,329 Go. 981 00:33:02,362 --> 00:33:03,666 - So funny when you put the pillow-- 982 00:33:03,699 --> 00:33:05,402 - I know. I was trying not to laugh. 983 00:33:05,435 --> 00:33:07,139 - I want you to say, "This contract is complete." 984 00:33:07,172 --> 00:33:08,241 - This contract is complete. 985 00:33:08,274 --> 00:33:09,744 Honestly, at this point, I don't care 986 00:33:09,778 --> 00:33:11,214 if this sh--'s for real or not. 987 00:33:11,247 --> 00:33:12,449 I feel great. 988 00:33:12,482 --> 00:33:14,788 - Let those arms lengthen out. Elbows here. 989 00:33:14,821 --> 00:33:17,492 - I call this one the vagina ripper. 990 00:33:17,527 --> 00:33:19,096 - One, two, three. 991 00:33:19,129 --> 00:33:20,165 - That looks great, Dr. Jen. 992 00:33:20,198 --> 00:33:22,369 I'm gonna be doing selfies for days. 993 00:33:22,402 --> 00:33:23,739 New face, who dis? 994 00:33:23,772 --> 00:33:26,077 I would never have imagined 995 00:33:26,110 --> 00:33:27,780 a year ago that I would be going 996 00:33:27,814 --> 00:33:29,316 to the orthodontist with Matt. 997 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:32,155 - They were, like, excited to come to the dentist. 998 00:33:32,189 --> 00:33:33,057 Did something right. 999 00:33:33,091 --> 00:33:35,328 - Yeah, we did that right for sure, yeah. 1000 00:33:35,362 --> 00:33:38,101 - Without police intervention. - Without police intervention. 1001 00:33:38,134 --> 00:33:40,038 Oh, and then my veil's in here. 1002 00:33:40,071 --> 00:33:41,374 - Say goodbye. Give it a kiss. 1003 00:33:41,407 --> 00:33:42,544 Wish it well. - Mwah. 1004 00:33:42,577 --> 00:33:47,252 You're gonna make some other bride very happy and hot. 1005 00:33:47,286 --> 00:33:49,490 The last few years of my life, personally, 1006 00:33:49,524 --> 00:33:51,460 have been very, very hard. 1007 00:33:51,494 --> 00:33:54,534 Every person in this room means so much to me. 1008 00:33:54,568 --> 00:33:56,505 Trav, I just really appreciate you 1009 00:33:56,538 --> 00:33:58,776 for always supporting me and loving me 1010 00:33:58,809 --> 00:34:00,111 through everything. 1011 00:34:00,145 --> 00:34:06,525 I don't think that I would feel this whole about myself 1012 00:34:06,558 --> 00:34:11,067 if he wasn't such a supportive, loving partner. 1013 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,770 And he's from Orange County. 1014 00:34:12,804 --> 00:34:14,240 I never would have thought. 1015 00:34:17,847 --> 00:34:22,790 - Aw, what made you seek out that spiritual extraction? 1016 00:34:22,824 --> 00:34:26,097 - The night we came home from Cabo, 1017 00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:28,301 it was, like, the middle of the night, and I shot up, 1018 00:34:28,334 --> 00:34:31,708 and I look over at my door, and I saw something. 1019 00:34:31,742 --> 00:34:33,512 I couldn't sleep after that. 1020 00:34:33,545 --> 00:34:35,750 And I just knew something was off. 1021 00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:37,319 - Did you really feel better after? 1022 00:34:37,352 --> 00:34:38,388 - I did. 1023 00:34:38,421 --> 00:34:41,394 I had a physical reaction in my body the whole way. 1024 00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:43,565 I started sweating. She was, like, working it up. 1025 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:44,701 It was the weirdest thing, 1026 00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:46,571 'cause I don't want to believe in this stuff, but I... 1027 00:34:46,605 --> 00:34:49,343 - But you do. - Do, yeah. 1028 00:34:49,376 --> 00:34:50,579 - Wow. - Yeah. 1029 00:34:50,613 --> 00:34:52,850 - All right, let's switch gears. 1030 00:34:52,884 --> 00:34:54,854 Brianna from Duluth, Minnesota, said, 1031 00:34:54,888 --> 00:34:57,192 "Gina, it was so nice seeing you and Matt 1032 00:34:57,225 --> 00:35:00,332 "not only co-parent this season but also laugh with each other. 1033 00:35:00,365 --> 00:35:02,336 How are things between the two of you today?" 1034 00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:04,340 - You know what? I'm really proud of that. 1035 00:35:04,373 --> 00:35:07,847 And I'm really happy about that, because it was-- 1036 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,784 it sucked, and it was really hard. 1037 00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:13,792 And it wasn't flawless, but we both did, 1038 00:35:13,826 --> 00:35:15,596 like, what we needed to do for our children 1039 00:35:15,630 --> 00:35:18,267 to get on board. 1040 00:35:18,301 --> 00:35:21,207 And things are-- they just keep getting better. 1041 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,311 - That's amazing. I mean... - Yeah. 1042 00:35:23,344 --> 00:35:24,881 - You cannot discount the fact 1043 00:35:24,914 --> 00:35:28,488 that you had to make a legal statement against him 1044 00:35:28,522 --> 00:35:30,626 for domestic battery. - Mm-hmm. 1045 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:33,264 - So how do you go from making that statement 1046 00:35:33,297 --> 00:35:34,801 to where you are now? 1047 00:35:34,834 --> 00:35:36,237 - You know what? 1048 00:35:36,270 --> 00:35:37,874 It's almost like I was so-- 1049 00:35:37,907 --> 00:35:40,780 we were stuck before I made the statement. 1050 00:35:40,813 --> 00:35:42,517 We were stuck in that time. 1051 00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:43,552 - Right. 1052 00:35:43,585 --> 00:35:46,424 - And it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. 1053 00:35:46,457 --> 00:35:49,363 But it honestly ended up being the best thing, 1054 00:35:49,396 --> 00:35:50,498 I think, for both of us. 1055 00:35:50,533 --> 00:35:52,202 I think it's something I had to say, 1056 00:35:52,235 --> 00:35:53,906 and it's something he had to hear. 1057 00:35:53,939 --> 00:35:55,910 And I think, if anything, it kind of just, 1058 00:35:55,943 --> 00:35:59,483 like, made Matt even more, 1059 00:35:59,517 --> 00:36:02,222 you know, accountable and show up more. 1060 00:36:02,255 --> 00:36:04,293 And even though we're not together, you know, 1061 00:36:04,326 --> 00:36:05,930 everybody says co-parent, but I feel 1062 00:36:05,963 --> 00:36:08,334 like my kids just have their parents, 1063 00:36:08,368 --> 00:36:10,506 even though we're not married. - That's great. 1064 00:36:10,539 --> 00:36:12,409 Well, it was really brave of you to do. 1065 00:36:12,442 --> 00:36:13,344 - Yeah. 1066 00:36:13,378 --> 00:36:15,382 - It shows what a strong woman you are. 1067 00:36:15,415 --> 00:36:16,417 - Thank you. 1068 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:19,223 - Shannon, you and David really went through it 1069 00:36:19,256 --> 00:36:21,260 during your marriage and then during your divorce. 1070 00:36:21,293 --> 00:36:24,534 How would you describe your relationship with your ex now? 1071 00:36:24,567 --> 00:36:27,339 - It's nonexistent, and nothing has changed, 1072 00:36:27,372 --> 00:36:30,546 no communication whatsoever. 1073 00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:33,519 - Lee from Sydney said, "Gina, I'm divorced myself, 1074 00:36:33,552 --> 00:36:36,958 "and I'm dreading introducing my ex to my new boyfriend. 1075 00:36:36,992 --> 00:36:39,296 How do Matt and Travis get along?" 1076 00:36:39,329 --> 00:36:40,966 - Great now, but I'm not gonna lie, 1077 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,539 it's not like-- it's not fun at first. 1078 00:36:43,572 --> 00:36:45,843 That's a step you got to take 1079 00:36:45,876 --> 00:36:47,446 and you got to get through it. 1080 00:36:47,479 --> 00:36:48,515 And I think--you know what? 1081 00:36:48,549 --> 00:36:50,653 Travis helps a lot with that stuff, 1082 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:52,924 because he's all focused, dialed in 1083 00:36:52,957 --> 00:36:55,295 on what's good for the kids, 1084 00:36:55,328 --> 00:36:57,499 what's good for everybody. 1085 00:36:57,533 --> 00:36:59,904 - You put a timeline of one to three years 1086 00:36:59,938 --> 00:37:02,442 on when the two of you might get hitched. 1087 00:37:02,476 --> 00:37:03,579 Give us the dirt. 1088 00:37:03,612 --> 00:37:05,448 When is he gonna get down on one knee? 1089 00:37:05,482 --> 00:37:08,421 - I don't know, and honestly, for us, 1090 00:37:08,454 --> 00:37:10,993 it's like, we would be married today, you know. 1091 00:37:11,026 --> 00:37:12,930 But we have six kids, 1092 00:37:12,964 --> 00:37:14,934 and we both went through bad divorces, 1093 00:37:14,968 --> 00:37:16,905 and we have to build back up financially. 1094 00:37:16,938 --> 00:37:19,009 - Right. - And for me, it's not-- 1095 00:37:19,042 --> 00:37:21,313 the first wedding, I was a kid, you know. 1096 00:37:21,347 --> 00:37:22,650 I'm an adult. We have to pay for this wedding. 1097 00:37:22,683 --> 00:37:25,990 We have to pay for six kids to go to college in-- 1098 00:37:26,023 --> 00:37:28,327 so when we get to that point, 1099 00:37:28,361 --> 00:37:30,533 it will happen when it's right, 1100 00:37:30,566 --> 00:37:32,603 but we have some rebuilding to do 1101 00:37:32,637 --> 00:37:34,707 before we can make that commitment to each other. 1102 00:37:34,741 --> 00:37:36,477 - Julia from Oklahoma City said, "Gina, 1103 00:37:36,511 --> 00:37:39,049 "I've always loved your relationship with Emily. 1104 00:37:39,082 --> 00:37:41,320 "But you and Heather were giving me life this season. 1105 00:37:41,353 --> 00:37:43,625 What is it that cemented your bond?" 1106 00:37:43,659 --> 00:37:47,032 - I honestly--and I know this is so whatever, 1107 00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:50,606 but it's the New Yorker vibe, you know? 1108 00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:51,975 - You know, like, you meet someone, it's like, 1109 00:37:52,008 --> 00:37:53,612 "Where'd you go to school? Where'd you this? 1110 00:37:53,645 --> 00:37:55,281 Where'd you have a hot dog? Where'd you"-- 1111 00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:56,350 - Yeah. 1112 00:37:56,383 --> 00:37:57,285 - "Where'd you go to summer camp?" 1113 00:37:57,319 --> 00:37:59,724 You know, it's-- - Right, delis and carbs. 1114 00:37:59,757 --> 00:38:01,494 - All right, let's take a break. 1115 00:38:01,528 --> 00:38:03,331 We'll be back with more 1116 00:38:03,364 --> 00:38:04,701 from the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion 1117 00:38:04,734 --> 00:38:06,003 after this. 1118 00:38:08,074 --> 00:38:10,044 Coming up... 1119 00:38:10,078 --> 00:38:11,515 - I believe that friendship is a two-way street. 1120 00:38:11,548 --> 00:38:13,652 And you've been gunning for me, and what's so interesting-- 1121 00:38:13,685 --> 00:38:14,754 - Gunning for you? 1122 00:38:14,787 --> 00:38:16,591 I don't gun for anybody, Shannon. 1123 00:38:24,574 --> 00:38:26,511 - It's so cold. - It's like I can't breathe. 1124 00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:32,523 - Hey, buddy. 1125 00:38:34,594 --> 00:38:36,665 - I'm in California, yes. 1126 00:38:38,034 --> 00:38:41,006 - I'm here with the Real Housewives of Orange County. 1127 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,610 I'm working. 1128 00:38:42,643 --> 00:38:44,714 Do you want to say hi to some Housewives? 1129 00:38:46,116 --> 00:38:47,787 - Say hi. - Hi, sweetie. How are you? 1130 00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:49,524 - Oh, my gosh. 1131 00:38:49,557 --> 00:38:50,693 - Say hi to these ladies. 1132 00:38:50,726 --> 00:38:52,095 - Bye, Ben. 1133 00:38:52,128 --> 00:38:54,701 Bye, but you're so handsome. 1134 00:38:54,734 --> 00:38:56,136 - All right, I love you, buddy. 1135 00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:57,507 Have a good night, okay? 1136 00:38:58,675 --> 00:38:59,978 - Aw! - Love you. 1137 00:39:00,011 --> 00:39:01,413 - I miss those voices. 1138 00:39:01,447 --> 00:39:02,617 - I'll see you tomorrow, okay? 1139 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:03,519 Bye. 1140 00:39:03,552 --> 00:39:06,758 - And here we go, standing by, three, two. 1141 00:39:06,791 --> 00:39:09,631 - We are back with the ladies of the OC. 1142 00:39:09,664 --> 00:39:11,768 Well, while one's house was too big 1143 00:39:11,801 --> 00:39:13,705 and the other's was too small, 1144 00:39:13,739 --> 00:39:15,809 their friendship was just right. 1145 00:39:15,843 --> 00:39:18,815 But did Gina and Heather's fairy-tale friendship 1146 00:39:18,849 --> 00:39:21,821 make certain Housewives a bit jealous? 1147 00:39:21,855 --> 00:39:23,692 - Oh, boy. - Let's watch. 1148 00:39:23,725 --> 00:39:26,463 Want to watch this, Shannon? - Yeah. Ready. 1149 00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,134 - I was telling my mom about you today. 1150 00:39:28,167 --> 00:39:29,571 - Really? - Yeah. 1151 00:39:29,604 --> 00:39:31,106 - I was like, "I met this girl from New York." 1152 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:32,442 My accent's fully back. 1153 00:39:32,475 --> 00:39:34,647 I love that I'm becoming such good friends with Gina. 1154 00:39:34,681 --> 00:39:39,122 So I want to help her think of me as her fairy god-Heather. 1155 00:39:39,156 --> 00:39:40,593 - Did you bring me clothes? 1156 00:39:40,626 --> 00:39:41,761 - A little bit. 1157 00:39:41,795 --> 00:39:43,832 - Oh, my God, so cute. 1158 00:39:43,865 --> 00:39:45,736 I love that. 1159 00:39:45,769 --> 00:39:47,172 - You know what? We're going to New York. 1160 00:39:47,205 --> 00:39:48,775 You should come with us. 1161 00:39:48,809 --> 00:39:50,746 - I would love to do that. 1162 00:39:51,881 --> 00:39:54,621 As Gina would say, I want all the things. 1163 00:39:54,654 --> 00:39:56,090 - I want all the things. - Cheers. 1164 00:39:56,123 --> 00:39:57,158 - I want all the things. 1165 00:39:57,192 --> 00:39:59,631 Cheers, it's the best cheers ever. 1166 00:39:59,664 --> 00:40:04,473 - Do you get jealous of Gina's relationship with Heather? 1167 00:40:04,507 --> 00:40:05,709 - No. 1168 00:40:05,743 --> 00:40:07,647 I hope for you that you can get to my level. 1169 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,749 - Let's praise. Let's hope. 1170 00:40:08,782 --> 00:40:10,619 Let's hope we can jump up to the bar. 1171 00:40:10,653 --> 00:40:11,821 - What the hell? - I'm done. 1172 00:40:11,855 --> 00:40:14,727 - Gina, put a pin in your ego. - I will. I'll clean it up. 1173 00:40:14,761 --> 00:40:16,831 I'm gonna clean it up. - You're a ----ing asshole. 1174 00:40:16,865 --> 00:40:18,535 - I wore lead shoes here 1175 00:40:18,568 --> 00:40:20,606 just to make sure I stayed on the ground. 1176 00:40:22,142 --> 00:40:24,747 - Unbe-----ing-lievable. - Yeah. 1177 00:40:24,781 --> 00:40:26,518 - Shannon, what did it mean to you 1178 00:40:26,551 --> 00:40:27,887 to have Gina's parents thank you for your help 1179 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,156 with the attorneys? 1180 00:40:29,189 --> 00:40:30,793 - Well, it was super sweet. 1181 00:40:30,826 --> 00:40:31,895 Your parents were very kind. 1182 00:40:31,928 --> 00:40:33,532 I talked to them for a long time. 1183 00:40:33,565 --> 00:40:35,168 - I was happy that my parents said thank you to you. 1184 00:40:35,201 --> 00:40:36,203 - Right. 1185 00:40:36,236 --> 00:40:37,773 - It meant a lot to them, because they were there 1186 00:40:37,807 --> 00:40:38,775 and they hadn't seen you, literally, 1187 00:40:38,809 --> 00:40:40,512 since that phone call. - Right. 1188 00:40:40,546 --> 00:40:42,516 When Gina and I sat down, she said, 1189 00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:44,687 "You know, it hurts my feelings that you brought up my DUI." 1190 00:40:44,721 --> 00:40:48,194 And I said to you, "I hear you, and I apologize, 1191 00:40:48,227 --> 00:40:50,498 and I'm not gonna talk about your DUI again." 1192 00:40:50,532 --> 00:40:51,601 Do you remember me saying that? - I know you did. 1193 00:40:51,635 --> 00:40:52,603 - I did say that. - She did say-- 1194 00:40:52,637 --> 00:40:54,674 - Because you say on the show that I don't take 1195 00:40:54,707 --> 00:40:57,212 accountability, but it's like, "Jesus, 1196 00:40:57,245 --> 00:40:59,917 I can't ----ing talk about it, 'cause Gina's gonna go off." 1197 00:40:59,951 --> 00:41:01,688 You know? You-- I feel as though-- 1198 00:41:01,721 --> 00:41:02,890 - That's ridiculous. - That's not true. 1199 00:41:02,923 --> 00:41:04,794 - Can we--this is between us, Emily. 1200 00:41:04,827 --> 00:41:05,929 - I just--well, I'm not allowed to have an opinion 1201 00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:07,600 about what you said? 1202 00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:10,204 It's one thing when her parents thank you 1203 00:41:10,238 --> 00:41:11,541 and you're talking about it. 1204 00:41:11,574 --> 00:41:13,679 It's another when you're with Heather and then you-- 1205 00:41:13,712 --> 00:41:15,214 - And again, I-- again, I apologized. 1206 00:41:15,248 --> 00:41:16,584 Should I do it three times? 1207 00:41:16,618 --> 00:41:18,120 - Why are you talking to me like that? 1208 00:41:18,154 --> 00:41:19,624 I just had an opinion, that was it. 1209 00:41:19,657 --> 00:41:20,893 I'm not allowed to talk? - Okay, but I-- 1210 00:41:20,926 --> 00:41:23,632 there are multiple times where I have gone what I 1211 00:41:23,665 --> 00:41:24,834 consider to be above and beyond 1212 00:41:24,867 --> 00:41:26,571 what I would do for most people. 1213 00:41:26,604 --> 00:41:29,944 And I don't expect things to be tit for tat and even. 1214 00:41:29,977 --> 00:41:31,915 But at the same time, I believe that friendship 1215 00:41:31,948 --> 00:41:33,685 is a two-way street. 1216 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,254 And you've been gunning for me, and what's so interesting-- 1217 00:41:35,288 --> 00:41:36,591 - Gunning for you? 1218 00:41:36,624 --> 00:41:37,727 I don't gun for anybody, Shannon. 1219 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,729 I mean, you sound ridiculous. 1220 00:41:38,762 --> 00:41:39,964 - Your first season, it was--you've not made 1221 00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:41,601 an effort to get to know me. 1222 00:41:41,634 --> 00:41:43,270 I was going through a ----ing horrible divorce. 1223 00:41:43,304 --> 00:41:44,674 - No, Shannon. 1224 00:41:46,778 --> 00:41:49,917 - You did--no. You made zero effort. 1225 00:41:49,951 --> 00:41:51,253 - This is outrageous. 1226 00:41:51,286 --> 00:41:53,257 You went through a divorce two years later, 1227 00:41:53,290 --> 00:41:54,627 which consumed you. 1228 00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:57,232 - Right, and I was able to still make friendships, though. 1229 00:41:57,265 --> 00:41:58,835 I was able to still communicate with people. 1230 00:41:58,869 --> 00:42:01,775 - When I have my kids 100% of the time 1231 00:42:01,808 --> 00:42:02,910 and I'm getting blasted-- 1232 00:42:02,943 --> 00:42:04,614 - I did it when I was going through my divorce too. 1233 00:42:04,647 --> 00:42:05,749 - I don't have the good fortune that you have. 1234 00:42:05,783 --> 00:42:06,985 - Oh, I had really good fortune. 1235 00:42:07,018 --> 00:42:08,588 That's right. - Let me finish. 1236 00:42:08,622 --> 00:42:10,626 - I had such good fortune. - This is what you do. 1237 00:42:10,659 --> 00:42:12,295 You always cut people off. 1238 00:42:12,328 --> 00:42:14,299 So in this reunion... - You do the same thing. 1239 00:42:14,332 --> 00:42:17,272 - I'll probably lose my voice because I stop, 1240 00:42:17,305 --> 00:42:19,744 and I wait until there's a logical break. 1241 00:42:19,777 --> 00:42:21,614 - You're gonna lose your voice because you did too many 1242 00:42:21,648 --> 00:42:23,919 ding-dong things this year, 1243 00:42:23,952 --> 00:42:26,290 and now you're coming to pay the piper. 1244 00:42:33,705 --> 00:42:36,310 - Next week, the reunion concludes. 1245 00:42:36,343 --> 00:42:37,747 Dr. Jen, you're the expert. 1246 00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:40,586 Who here had the best work done? 1247 00:42:40,619 --> 00:42:41,721 - Such a loaded question. 1248 00:42:41,755 --> 00:42:43,859 - Come on. 1249 00:42:43,892 --> 00:42:45,662 - Don't walk on eggshells with me. 1250 00:42:45,696 --> 00:42:46,731 I'm tough. 1251 00:42:46,765 --> 00:42:50,271 - Well, it sounds like maybe you're not that tough. 1252 00:42:50,304 --> 00:42:53,010 - You were there, like, throwing Nicole under the bus, 1253 00:42:53,043 --> 00:42:54,847 like, really firing Emily up. 1254 00:42:54,881 --> 00:42:57,252 - Was I? I was not at all. 1255 00:42:57,285 --> 00:42:58,655 That's not even true. 1256 00:42:58,688 --> 00:42:59,690 - Don't make me say it, Heather. 1257 00:42:59,724 --> 00:43:00,993 I don't want to say it. My hands are shaking. 1258 00:43:01,026 --> 00:43:01,995 My voice is shaking. both: Say what? 1259 00:43:02,028 --> 00:43:03,030 - Say what? 1260 00:43:05,836 --> 00:43:08,374 - You have the audacity to say, 1261 00:43:08,407 --> 00:43:10,344 "Do you even have any friends, Shannon?" 1262 00:43:10,378 --> 00:43:11,748 That is mean-spirited. 1263 00:43:11,781 --> 00:43:12,750 - You know what's mean-spirited? 1264 00:43:12,783 --> 00:43:13,819 Watching John 1265 00:43:13,852 --> 00:43:15,689 tell me I could go myself, 1266 00:43:15,722 --> 00:43:18,360 how aggressive he was towards me. 1267 00:43:18,394 --> 00:43:19,362 - Oh, my gosh.