1 00:00:14,495 --> 00:00:16,132 - Tonight "The Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion" concludes. 2 00:00:16,165 --> 00:00:17,502 - Ooh. 3 00:00:17,536 --> 00:00:20,040 - Did you tell people that Gina had an inflated ego? 4 00:00:20,073 --> 00:00:22,311 - You knock me down, I get right back up is what I mean. 5 00:00:22,344 --> 00:00:24,181 - Okay. Then be ready for the jabs. 6 00:00:24,215 --> 00:00:27,121 - If drama was a drug, you would be a pharmacy. 7 00:00:27,154 --> 00:00:28,290 [laughter] 8 00:00:28,323 --> 00:00:31,296 - Bridget is worried that Ryan loves 9 00:00:31,329 --> 00:00:33,366 Mr. Poppers more than you. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,672 [laughter] 11 00:00:35,705 --> 00:00:36,640 Wow. 12 00:00:36,674 --> 00:00:38,343 - You know, despite our differences 13 00:00:38,376 --> 00:00:40,682 my heart broke for you when your father passed. 14 00:00:40,715 --> 00:00:42,786 I just wanted to, like, hug you and protect you. 15 00:00:42,819 --> 00:00:44,155 I'm sorry you had to go through that. 16 00:00:44,188 --> 00:00:44,957 - Thank you. 17 00:00:44,990 --> 00:00:46,827 - The surgeon called John and said, 18 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:49,800 "I've never cut more skin out of a neck 19 00:00:49,833 --> 00:00:51,537 in my entire career than I have for Shannon." 20 00:00:51,570 --> 00:00:53,306 - My reunion prep was a colonoscopy. 21 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:55,210 I thought I was gonna be skinnier. 22 00:00:55,244 --> 00:00:56,379 The sky is blue. 23 00:00:56,412 --> 00:00:58,383 The grass is green. Noella is a liar. 24 00:00:58,416 --> 00:01:00,555 - Don't make me say it, Heather. I don't wanna say it. 25 00:01:00,588 --> 00:01:02,358 My hands are shaking. My voice is shaking. 26 00:01:02,391 --> 00:01:04,128 both: Say what? - Say what? 27 00:01:04,161 --> 00:01:05,397 - You were so controlling of the friend group 28 00:01:05,430 --> 00:01:07,134 that nobody could be nice to me. 29 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:08,403 - Yeah, it's all me, Noella. 30 00:01:08,436 --> 00:01:10,407 - I was trying to help you have a breakthrough. 31 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,278 - Okay. All right. All right. 32 00:01:12,311 --> 00:01:15,284 [dramatic music] 33 00:01:15,317 --> 00:01:17,221 ♪ ♪ 34 00:01:17,254 --> 00:01:19,726 - There are multiple times where I have gone 35 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,129 what I consider to be above 36 00:01:21,162 --> 00:01:23,099 and beyond what I would do for most people. 37 00:01:23,133 --> 00:01:25,571 And you have the audacity to say, 38 00:01:25,605 --> 00:01:27,842 "Do you even have any friends, Shannon?" 39 00:01:27,876 --> 00:01:29,746 That is the most cruel, 40 00:01:29,780 --> 00:01:32,251 egotistical, arrogant thing to say to somebody. 41 00:01:32,284 --> 00:01:34,422 - Why would it upset you if she ask if you have friends? 42 00:01:34,455 --> 00:01:35,858 - Because she was saying, 43 00:01:35,892 --> 00:01:37,328 "Do you even have any friends, Shannon?" 44 00:01:37,361 --> 00:01:39,599 Saying that I wasn't a nice person. 45 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:40,768 That is mean-spirited. 46 00:01:40,802 --> 00:01:42,338 - That's mean-spirited? You know what's mean-spirited? 47 00:01:42,371 --> 00:01:44,308 Watching John. 48 00:01:44,342 --> 00:01:46,379 Tell me I could go basically (BLEEP) myself. 49 00:01:46,412 --> 00:01:48,249 How aggressive he was towards me... 50 00:01:48,283 --> 00:01:50,855 - At that house. - At your home. 51 00:01:50,888 --> 00:01:53,393 - Okay. (BLEEP) her. (BLEEP) Gina. 52 00:01:53,426 --> 00:01:56,366 That is the most ridiculous comment. 53 00:01:56,399 --> 00:02:00,440 (BLEEP) her. She's not your friend. We're done with her. 54 00:02:00,474 --> 00:02:01,777 - That was horrible. 55 00:02:01,810 --> 00:02:04,181 - It was a buildup of him-- - Of what? 56 00:02:04,215 --> 00:02:05,652 I never did anything to him at all. 57 00:02:05,685 --> 00:02:07,287 - What did you think of his behavior? 58 00:02:07,321 --> 00:02:08,390 - He was defending me. 59 00:02:08,423 --> 00:02:09,458 - He can defend you without saying-- 60 00:02:09,492 --> 00:02:11,262 - Listen to me. 61 00:02:11,295 --> 00:02:13,501 I'm concerned for you if that's how he defends you. 62 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:14,770 - You know what? You know what? 63 00:02:14,803 --> 00:02:17,609 Stop with your ----ing allegations. 64 00:02:17,642 --> 00:02:21,149 - No man I know would ever act like that. 65 00:02:21,182 --> 00:02:22,217 - Wow. 66 00:02:22,251 --> 00:02:23,353 - It is what it is, Shannon. What do you mean wow? 67 00:02:23,386 --> 00:02:24,790 - What could triggering? 68 00:02:24,823 --> 00:02:27,227 - He was so disrespectful, and you should not be 69 00:02:27,261 --> 00:02:29,365 letting him speak about your friends like that. 70 00:02:29,398 --> 00:02:31,169 - She also comes from an abusive relationship. 71 00:02:31,202 --> 00:02:31,937 - I understand that. 72 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:33,306 - That could be very triggering. 73 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:34,308 - That is not supporting someone. 74 00:02:34,342 --> 00:02:36,446 - There was a accumulation 75 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:40,187 of me saying things to him that hurt me. 76 00:02:40,220 --> 00:02:43,226 - Did you tell people that Gina had an inflated ego? 77 00:02:43,259 --> 00:02:45,665 - When I was told that she thought 78 00:02:45,698 --> 00:02:47,234 that I was jealous of her, that's when... 79 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:48,169 - That's what you said. 80 00:02:48,203 --> 00:02:50,340 - I said, I put a pin to deflate the ego. 81 00:02:50,374 --> 00:02:52,311 - By the way, do you know what putting a pin in it means? 82 00:02:52,344 --> 00:02:54,181 - I thought you put a pin in it and deflate. 83 00:02:54,215 --> 00:02:57,187 - No. You put a pin it to take 84 00:02:57,221 --> 00:03:00,360 a break from discussing something. 85 00:03:02,866 --> 00:03:04,435 - Okay. Well, I learned something today. 86 00:03:04,468 --> 00:03:05,938 - I just want to clarify the friend thing. 87 00:03:05,972 --> 00:03:07,241 I'm gonna clarify the friend thing. 88 00:03:07,274 --> 00:03:08,343 So I was trying to prove a point. 89 00:03:08,376 --> 00:03:09,679 I wasn't trying to be rude. 90 00:03:09,713 --> 00:03:11,215 - You guys were laughing at the finale party. 91 00:03:11,249 --> 00:03:13,286 - [laughs] 92 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:14,689 - [indistinct]. 93 00:03:14,723 --> 00:03:15,958 - But these are friends I never met before. 94 00:03:15,992 --> 00:03:19,398 - I know. I know. 95 00:03:19,432 --> 00:03:21,503 - Maybe they're hired actors. - Oh, that's a core friend? 96 00:03:21,537 --> 00:03:23,841 Why haven't they--why haven't they made out before? 97 00:03:23,874 --> 00:03:24,810 Go back. 98 00:03:24,843 --> 00:03:27,716 - That was just a joke. It's a joke. 99 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:29,218 - But it's hurtful. - I'll give you this. 100 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:30,287 Maybe we don't--we joke a lot. 101 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,491 - I've been making fun of her hair for four years. 102 00:03:32,525 --> 00:03:35,397 - By the way, don't walk on eggshells with me. I'm tough. 103 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:38,537 - Well, it sounds like maybe you're not that tough. 104 00:03:38,571 --> 00:03:41,275 - You knock me down, I get right back up is what I mean. 105 00:03:41,309 --> 00:03:42,478 - Okay. Then be ready for the jabs. 106 00:03:42,512 --> 00:03:44,281 - No. No. - All right. 107 00:03:44,315 --> 00:03:46,018 So where do you and Gina stand now? 108 00:03:46,052 --> 00:03:49,760 - I can be--get along and have fun if she's here. 109 00:03:49,793 --> 00:03:51,295 It's not--it's not gonna cause tension 110 00:03:51,329 --> 00:03:52,732 and ruin everybody's time. - Okay. 111 00:03:52,766 --> 00:03:54,736 It kind of sounds like she's saying she can be 112 00:03:54,770 --> 00:03:56,005 in the same room with Gina and it will be fine. 113 00:03:56,038 --> 00:03:59,445 - We don't have to be besties. 114 00:03:59,478 --> 00:04:01,249 - I didn't mean it that harsh. 115 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:03,019 'Cause you and I did have fun together this season. 116 00:04:03,052 --> 00:04:04,488 - We do, and I do care about you. 117 00:04:04,523 --> 00:04:06,392 And if I joke on you or whatever, 118 00:04:06,426 --> 00:04:07,762 I do that to everybody. 119 00:04:07,796 --> 00:04:09,733 And if that bothers you, like, I can work on that. 120 00:04:09,766 --> 00:04:11,002 - Well, I appreciate that. 121 00:04:11,035 --> 00:04:12,505 And on behalf of John, I apologize, 122 00:04:12,539 --> 00:04:16,279 because he is not proud of what he said. 123 00:04:16,312 --> 00:04:19,418 But I know where it was coming from is out of his love for me. 124 00:04:19,452 --> 00:04:21,022 - Okay. Shannon, you'll be happy 125 00:04:21,055 --> 00:04:23,293 to know I'm gonna put a pin in it. 126 00:04:23,326 --> 00:04:24,763 - Okay. 127 00:04:24,796 --> 00:04:26,600 [laughter] 128 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:28,904 - This season when Noella wasn't fighting 129 00:04:28,938 --> 00:04:31,375 for her marriage, she seemed to be fighting 130 00:04:31,409 --> 00:04:34,482 with almost all the women in the group. 131 00:04:34,516 --> 00:04:39,425 Put your dukes up and get ready for Noella versus everybody. 132 00:04:39,458 --> 00:04:41,429 [laughter] 133 00:04:41,462 --> 00:04:43,433 - I just had the worst week of my life so far. 134 00:04:43,466 --> 00:04:45,538 - I just reached out to you to ask if you need-- 135 00:04:45,571 --> 00:04:46,807 - And you are a rude little girl. 136 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:48,577 [bell dings] 137 00:04:48,611 --> 00:04:50,046 I could feel a certain energy 138 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,484 from you that you're a little thirsty. 139 00:04:54,488 --> 00:04:55,825 - Crock pot in a thing. 140 00:04:55,858 --> 00:04:57,795 - Grown women don't whisper in each other's ears. 141 00:04:57,829 --> 00:04:59,398 - I just wouldn't want you to come here 142 00:04:59,431 --> 00:05:00,802 and, like, whisper things to people. 143 00:05:00,835 --> 00:05:01,737 I guess that's what I'm (BLEEP) doing now. 144 00:05:01,770 --> 00:05:03,339 But I'm not whispering. - Okay, listen. 145 00:05:03,373 --> 00:05:04,609 [bell dings] 146 00:05:04,643 --> 00:05:07,515 - You're not gonna raise it. - [humming] 147 00:05:07,549 --> 00:05:09,451 - You're so mad at me. - I feel a betrayal with you. 148 00:05:09,485 --> 00:05:11,523 - But what did I do to betray you? 149 00:05:11,557 --> 00:05:12,959 I don't really know 150 00:05:12,992 --> 00:05:14,596 how to handle my friendship with Noella. 151 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:16,499 - She's such a dick all the time. 152 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:20,473 It's like she's such a dick all the time. 153 00:05:20,508 --> 00:05:22,512 [bell dings] 154 00:05:22,545 --> 00:05:24,816 - What is going on? - I'm sorry, Noella. 155 00:05:24,850 --> 00:05:26,520 I'm not allowed to ask questions. 156 00:05:26,553 --> 00:05:28,624 - Clearly I'm not allowed to talk about my divorce. 157 00:05:28,657 --> 00:05:30,493 - It's all you talk about. 158 00:05:30,528 --> 00:05:35,638 I like Noella, but she also can be suffocating. 159 00:05:35,671 --> 00:05:37,107 - We compared notes. - No. 160 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:38,511 - Sure. 161 00:05:38,544 --> 00:05:41,850 - Now you are a ----ing liar, because that's not true. 162 00:05:41,884 --> 00:05:44,355 [bell dings] 163 00:05:44,388 --> 00:05:47,427 - I found out that I was a pity invite. 164 00:05:47,461 --> 00:05:49,566 - That is not true. I didn't want to invite you, 165 00:05:49,599 --> 00:05:53,641 because you gave my daughter pornography as a gift. 166 00:05:53,674 --> 00:05:55,010 And I felt uncomfortable. 167 00:05:55,043 --> 00:05:56,647 - Wait. What? 168 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,118 I am a bisexual, biracial, 169 00:05:59,151 --> 00:06:01,422 liberal freaking woman who lives in Orange County. 170 00:06:01,455 --> 00:06:04,028 Don't you dare tell me that I'm inappropriate. 171 00:06:04,061 --> 00:06:05,698 - No, no, no. - I'm not saying... 172 00:06:05,731 --> 00:06:07,467 - Don't you no, no, no me. - You were inappropriate. 173 00:06:07,502 --> 00:06:08,571 - She's not saying you're saying inappropriate. 174 00:06:08,604 --> 00:06:10,841 - I'm saying your gift was. 175 00:06:10,875 --> 00:06:13,379 - Wow. - Okay. 176 00:06:13,413 --> 00:06:15,450 - But there was no Shannon in there. So it's not everyone. 177 00:06:15,483 --> 00:06:18,624 - She was the one constant support during this crazy year. 178 00:06:18,657 --> 00:06:22,130 - Well, the bad blood between you and Jen 179 00:06:22,164 --> 00:06:24,435 was practically instantaneous. 180 00:06:24,468 --> 00:06:26,607 Jen, what was your first impression of Noella? 181 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,142 - I don't think we started off very well. 182 00:06:28,176 --> 00:06:29,879 When we went to Heather's party, 183 00:06:29,913 --> 00:06:31,449 you came off very pretentious to me. 184 00:06:31,482 --> 00:06:34,154 So I felt like there was an energy between us 185 00:06:34,188 --> 00:06:35,691 that I wanted to clear up. 186 00:06:35,725 --> 00:06:38,597 Suing somebody and coming to their house, 187 00:06:38,631 --> 00:06:40,467 you need to talk to them at the right time. 188 00:06:40,501 --> 00:06:42,705 - I don't know if that chapter's in "Emily Post." 189 00:06:42,739 --> 00:06:45,711 I know that you're throwing, like, gasoline on this fire 190 00:06:45,745 --> 00:06:47,414 that I'm trying to put out 191 00:06:47,447 --> 00:06:48,684 so Heather's dinner party could be salvaged. 192 00:06:48,717 --> 00:06:51,155 I really wanted all of us to come back together 193 00:06:51,188 --> 00:06:53,661 and sit at the table and eat the freaking Wagyu. 194 00:06:53,694 --> 00:06:57,167 And you were there, like, throwing Nicole under the bus, 195 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,938 like, really firing Emily up. 196 00:06:58,971 --> 00:07:01,075 And that was just, like, "Gosh. I knew she was a--" 197 00:07:01,108 --> 00:07:03,914 - That's not at all. That's not even true. 198 00:07:03,948 --> 00:07:05,952 You literally just make stuff up. 199 00:07:05,985 --> 00:07:08,489 You literally just make sh-- up, Noella. 200 00:07:08,524 --> 00:07:11,530 I cannot freaking--it's like talking to a child 201 00:07:11,563 --> 00:07:12,765 that just makes stuff up. 202 00:07:12,799 --> 00:07:14,502 You just make it up. - You--you-- 203 00:07:14,536 --> 00:07:15,738 - Nicole fired me up. It wasn't Jen. 204 00:07:15,771 --> 00:07:17,508 - Yeah, Nicole fired her up. 205 00:07:17,542 --> 00:07:19,713 - Michael from Eureka Spring said, "Noella, I've heard some 206 00:07:19,746 --> 00:07:22,518 "silly reasons to dislike someone. 207 00:07:22,552 --> 00:07:25,591 "But hating Jen for posting a poorly lit picture of herself 208 00:07:25,625 --> 00:07:29,098 and tagging you in it takes the gluten-free cake." 209 00:07:29,131 --> 00:07:31,235 What's the deal with tagging in the picture? 210 00:07:31,268 --> 00:07:34,108 - You was acting as if we were like this close friendship. 211 00:07:34,141 --> 00:07:35,511 - No, I don't think we're close friends. 212 00:07:35,544 --> 00:07:36,647 - And why am I being rude to you? 213 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,483 - I was not acting that way at all. 214 00:07:38,517 --> 00:07:41,122 - Noella told me a lot of times people get offers 215 00:07:41,155 --> 00:07:43,961 to get treatments done by a med spa. 216 00:07:43,994 --> 00:07:45,230 - Okay. 217 00:07:45,263 --> 00:07:46,667 - And then you kind of post for them. 218 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:50,206 And your explanation to me was, "I work with a med spa, 219 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,777 and then Jen is tagging me." 220 00:07:51,810 --> 00:07:53,547 - Why didn't you just untag yourself? 221 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:55,116 - And that's fine. But you just untag yourself. 222 00:07:55,150 --> 00:07:56,553 - I did. And I'd never had done that before, 223 00:07:56,586 --> 00:07:57,622 so that was malicious. 224 00:07:57,655 --> 00:07:59,124 - I don't think it was malicious. 225 00:07:59,158 --> 00:08:00,761 - No. She said thank you to all of my clients. 226 00:08:00,795 --> 00:08:02,732 And I've never been to her med spa. 227 00:08:02,765 --> 00:08:04,769 And at that point, I had heard things about her med spa 228 00:08:04,803 --> 00:08:06,773 that really made me feel like I don't necessarily 229 00:08:06,807 --> 00:08:08,242 want to be associated with that. 230 00:08:08,276 --> 00:08:09,646 - Let's not talk about people's medical practices. 231 00:08:09,679 --> 00:08:11,015 - That's, like, really inappropriate. 232 00:08:11,048 --> 00:08:12,785 You've never been to my place. 233 00:08:12,819 --> 00:08:14,656 You've never even been a patient or any family member. 234 00:08:14,689 --> 00:08:15,658 - It's a small town, and I heard things. 235 00:08:15,691 --> 00:08:17,260 - That is so inappropriate. 236 00:08:17,294 --> 00:08:19,566 - Harmony from Saint Cloud, Minnesota, 237 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:20,835 wants Heather to explain to us, 238 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:23,239 "What you're problem is with Noella. 239 00:08:23,272 --> 00:08:25,578 I'm not sure I understand why you hate her so much." 240 00:08:25,611 --> 00:08:27,582 - Oh, my gosh. I do not hate Noella. 241 00:08:27,615 --> 00:08:30,788 The problem has been from the get-go when I barely knew you, 242 00:08:30,821 --> 00:08:32,658 and I invited you over to my house, 243 00:08:32,692 --> 00:08:34,261 because I had heard you'd call me a fake bitch. 244 00:08:34,294 --> 00:08:36,265 By the way, I'm not a narcissist. 245 00:08:36,298 --> 00:08:37,568 And my studio is my studio. 246 00:08:37,602 --> 00:08:40,040 Is your studio--do you have pictures of yourself? 247 00:08:40,073 --> 00:08:41,275 - Everywhere. 248 00:08:41,308 --> 00:08:42,645 - Do you have your name everywhere? 249 00:08:42,678 --> 00:08:44,816 - Yes. But I'm also a narcissist. 250 00:08:44,849 --> 00:08:47,722 I mean, I would say everyone here is a narcissist. 251 00:08:47,755 --> 00:08:50,326 - Okay. To a certain level you're probably right. 252 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,164 - Here we are. The cameras are there. 253 00:08:52,197 --> 00:08:53,600 We are here. 254 00:08:53,634 --> 00:08:54,769 - You went out of your way... - No, no. 255 00:08:54,803 --> 00:08:56,840 - To say really nasty things to try 256 00:08:56,873 --> 00:08:58,777 and make me out to be a liar. 257 00:08:58,811 --> 00:09:00,548 - Well, you are a liar. - And that was my issue. 258 00:09:00,581 --> 00:09:01,783 - No, no, no. That's--that's axiomatic. 259 00:09:01,817 --> 00:09:04,622 - And therein lies the rub. - The sky is blue. 260 00:09:04,656 --> 00:09:06,893 The grass is green. Noella is a liar. 261 00:09:06,927 --> 00:09:08,296 - Don't make me say it, Heather. 262 00:09:08,329 --> 00:09:09,866 I don't want to say it. My hands are shaking. 263 00:09:09,899 --> 00:09:11,603 My voice is shaking. both: Say what? 264 00:09:11,636 --> 00:09:12,839 - Say what? 265 00:09:12,872 --> 00:09:15,611 ♪ ♪ 266 00:09:24,094 --> 00:09:25,330 - No. Don't make me say it, Heather. I don't want to say it. My hands are shaking. 267 00:09:25,363 --> 00:09:26,332 My voice is shaking. both: Say what? 268 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:27,602 - Say what? 269 00:09:27,635 --> 00:09:28,837 - What the accusations were. 270 00:09:28,871 --> 00:09:30,775 - What? - Let's go through 'em. 271 00:09:30,808 --> 00:09:33,279 - I said the Nicole James lawsuit, and then-- 272 00:09:33,312 --> 00:09:35,851 - Hold on. What's the Nicole James Lawsuit? 273 00:09:35,885 --> 00:09:38,791 - Oh, so I was on the other line when you called Nicole. 274 00:09:38,824 --> 00:09:40,594 - I didn't call Nicole. 275 00:09:40,628 --> 00:09:42,832 - She told me she was botched 276 00:09:42,865 --> 00:09:45,838 and it was a really bad experience by her husband 277 00:09:45,871 --> 00:09:49,077 and that she ultimately did follow through with a lawsuit, 278 00:09:49,111 --> 00:09:51,616 and she got "a lot of money" out of it. 279 00:09:51,650 --> 00:09:52,585 That's what she told me. 280 00:09:52,618 --> 00:09:54,221 - Uh-huh. Well, that's-- - Then you called-- 281 00:09:54,254 --> 00:09:55,356 - No, no, no, wait. Pause on that. 282 00:09:55,390 --> 00:09:59,064 You cannot hurtle accusations. What you don't understand 283 00:09:59,097 --> 00:10:02,772 is that when you get a settlement from a doctor 284 00:10:02,805 --> 00:10:05,878 it is reported to the California Medical Board. 285 00:10:05,911 --> 00:10:07,080 - That is true. 286 00:10:07,114 --> 00:10:08,917 - There is no hiding a settlement. 287 00:10:08,951 --> 00:10:10,754 - True. - That is not a thing. 288 00:10:10,788 --> 00:10:12,090 - There's NDAs in place. 289 00:10:12,124 --> 00:10:13,794 - No, not with doctors. 290 00:10:13,827 --> 00:10:15,698 - Not with malpractice. 291 00:10:15,731 --> 00:10:17,100 - Again, I was listening to my friend. 292 00:10:17,134 --> 00:10:21,676 - I'm telling you, it is 1,000% not true. 293 00:10:21,710 --> 00:10:23,112 That didn't happen. 294 00:10:23,146 --> 00:10:24,883 - And I have to assume happen if she didn't drop her case 295 00:10:24,916 --> 00:10:27,420 and there was a settlement, I have to assume that you A, 296 00:10:27,454 --> 00:10:30,260 wouldn't be trying to get her on the show, and B, 297 00:10:30,293 --> 00:10:31,897 that Terry would remember her from-- 298 00:10:31,930 --> 00:10:33,232 - Would be more aware. 299 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:34,903 - By the way, I know we're wealthy. 300 00:10:34,936 --> 00:10:36,773 But do you think I wouldn't remember writing a check? 301 00:10:36,807 --> 00:10:39,111 - I do. Yes, I think--yeah, I think so. 302 00:10:39,144 --> 00:10:40,714 - I mean, the fact that you didn't know 303 00:10:40,748 --> 00:10:41,850 that she had sued your husband 304 00:10:41,883 --> 00:10:42,685 to begin with kind of shocked me. 305 00:10:42,718 --> 00:10:44,789 - Because it was a dropped something. 306 00:10:44,823 --> 00:10:47,662 It wasn't a big deal. She filed and dropped it. 307 00:10:47,695 --> 00:10:49,766 - You literally asked me why I had a tainted opinion. 308 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:51,402 - Listen to me. 309 00:10:51,435 --> 00:10:52,572 - And I was listening to my best friends tell me something. 310 00:10:52,605 --> 00:10:54,709 - No, I understand what you heard from Nicole. 311 00:10:54,742 --> 00:10:57,682 But what you're accusing me of--I understand that. 312 00:10:57,715 --> 00:10:58,917 But what you're accusing me of is trying to bury something. 313 00:10:58,951 --> 00:11:00,688 And I'm going, "Bury what?" 314 00:11:00,721 --> 00:11:03,159 I didn't--you told me I strong-armed her. 315 00:11:03,192 --> 00:11:05,430 Like, strong-armed her into what? 316 00:11:05,463 --> 00:11:07,802 - Into not discussing the lawsuit on the show. 317 00:11:07,835 --> 00:11:10,808 - It was already discussed. The damage was already done. 318 00:11:10,841 --> 00:11:12,410 There was nothing else to talk about. 319 00:11:12,444 --> 00:11:13,714 - We've been talking for 45 minutes now. 320 00:11:13,747 --> 00:11:15,016 - You stopped the conversation. 321 00:11:15,049 --> 00:11:16,953 In the podcast when you stopped the conversation you just said, 322 00:11:16,987 --> 00:11:18,724 "Look the camera's here. We're not discussing this." 323 00:11:18,757 --> 00:11:19,726 - Well, of course, Noella. I don't want a lawsuit 324 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:22,932 about my husband being continuously brought up. 325 00:11:22,965 --> 00:11:24,769 It's obviously not great. 326 00:11:24,802 --> 00:11:26,438 - I just--I wish you could've said this in the podcast. 327 00:11:26,472 --> 00:11:29,177 I wish that instead of just saying, "I cancel you. 328 00:11:29,211 --> 00:11:30,814 You're dead to me." 329 00:11:30,848 --> 00:11:33,386 - You said, "I saw a different side of you that night 330 00:11:33,419 --> 00:11:35,490 when you were slamming people against walls." 331 00:11:35,524 --> 00:11:37,494 And you saw me I went, "What? 332 00:11:37,528 --> 00:11:39,431 What are you talking about? That didn't happen." 333 00:11:39,464 --> 00:11:40,935 - You never said that. - Yes, I did. 334 00:11:40,968 --> 00:11:42,705 - You didn't say that. - Roll the tape. 335 00:11:42,738 --> 00:11:44,408 - Slamming people against walls? 336 00:11:44,441 --> 00:11:46,980 - I heard it. I was right near the staircase, but there was-- 337 00:11:47,013 --> 00:11:49,986 - What are you talking about slamming against walls? 338 00:11:50,019 --> 00:11:52,725 I didn't slam anyone against a wall. 339 00:11:52,758 --> 00:11:54,996 - Okay. I saw you push a cameraman. 340 00:11:55,029 --> 00:11:56,967 I saw you rage. 341 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,804 - You changed your story every five seconds, 342 00:11:58,837 --> 00:12:00,808 and none of it ever happened. Let's start with that. 343 00:12:00,841 --> 00:12:02,477 - You didn't rage? You didn't push a camera? 344 00:12:02,511 --> 00:12:03,947 - No, no. Rage, yes. But that's not what you said. 345 00:12:03,981 --> 00:12:05,416 You said I slammed people against walls, 346 00:12:05,450 --> 00:12:06,519 that I was physically abusive. 347 00:12:06,553 --> 00:12:08,222 - That is--that is what I heard. 348 00:12:08,256 --> 00:12:09,993 - You're accusing her of something that you said first 349 00:12:10,026 --> 00:12:11,863 that you saw with your own eyes. 350 00:12:11,896 --> 00:12:13,032 - Yeah. 351 00:12:13,065 --> 00:12:15,470 - And then you said someone told you that it happened. 352 00:12:15,504 --> 00:12:17,875 - But you heard it. - You didn't see it. 353 00:12:17,909 --> 00:12:19,478 You heard it. - I actually, I saw her 354 00:12:19,512 --> 00:12:22,752 with my own eyes going off on people and going crazy. 355 00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:23,787 - So what? 356 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:26,058 - Literally we are camera down 357 00:12:26,091 --> 00:12:27,895 or camera that way. You're fine. 358 00:12:27,929 --> 00:12:31,870 - That's been established. That's been established. 359 00:12:31,903 --> 00:12:34,374 - I didn't think that that was that embarrassing. 360 00:12:34,408 --> 00:12:36,245 - Yes. And by the way--and by the way-- 361 00:12:36,278 --> 00:12:37,915 - I'm willing to admit that. - That's what I said. 362 00:12:37,949 --> 00:12:40,521 - If the cameras were rolling when she was doing that, 363 00:12:40,554 --> 00:12:41,990 it would've been shown. 364 00:12:42,023 --> 00:12:43,860 - Yes. - I'm sorry to tell you. 365 00:12:43,894 --> 00:12:45,396 - Yes. 366 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:46,833 - And I'm sorry to tell you that it would've been. 367 00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:48,804 - But you perpetuated it all season long. 368 00:12:48,837 --> 00:12:50,808 - I didn't talk about it with anybody. 369 00:12:50,841 --> 00:12:53,379 - You talked about it with everyone. 370 00:12:53,412 --> 00:12:54,782 - You talked about it with me. 371 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:56,519 - All of Aspen was this. - Excuse me. 372 00:12:56,553 --> 00:12:58,957 I think you might have brought it up in Aspen. 373 00:12:58,991 --> 00:13:00,527 - She did. Yeah. - It was--but it was 374 00:13:00,561 --> 00:13:02,865 because it was based on what the game was 375 00:13:02,898 --> 00:13:03,834 and what we were talking about... 376 00:13:03,867 --> 00:13:05,571 - I know, but I'm just-- - And I was reacting 377 00:13:05,604 --> 00:13:07,040 to what she said. I called her a liar. 378 00:13:07,073 --> 00:13:09,011 - I know. But I'm just pointing it out to you that you did. 379 00:13:09,044 --> 00:13:11,015 - You don't say things that are hurtful? 380 00:13:11,048 --> 00:13:12,017 - What have I said that's hurtful? 381 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:13,285 - Oh, I don't know, 382 00:13:13,319 --> 00:13:15,958 that I slam people against the wall. 383 00:13:15,991 --> 00:13:17,561 - Are we going there? 384 00:13:17,595 --> 00:13:19,031 - I want to talk about the card game. 385 00:13:19,064 --> 00:13:21,936 Lucy from Miami said, "Heather, your daughter's 17 years old. 386 00:13:21,970 --> 00:13:24,876 "I'm pretty sure she's heard some bad language before. 387 00:13:24,909 --> 00:13:26,278 So what's the big deal?" 388 00:13:26,312 --> 00:13:28,015 - We actually have the game, but she's opening it up 389 00:13:28,049 --> 00:13:30,286 in front of all of her, you know, school friends. 390 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,990 - Why would open it up if she knew what it was? 391 00:13:32,023 --> 00:13:33,292 - Because it's, like-- 392 00:13:33,326 --> 00:13:34,862 - But, Noella, did you know what the card said? 393 00:13:34,896 --> 00:13:37,000 - 100%, no. But you knew what the cards were. 394 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:39,071 Like, I had no idea. - I wasn't-- 395 00:13:39,104 --> 00:13:41,141 - I think that she'd be a good enough parent to be like, 396 00:13:41,175 --> 00:13:42,545 "Don't read this in front 397 00:13:42,578 --> 00:13:43,947 of your Catholic school girlfriend." 398 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:45,951 - Noella, I wasn't standing over her 399 00:13:45,984 --> 00:13:47,955 when she was standing--when she was opening gifts. 400 00:13:47,988 --> 00:13:49,324 Don't comment on my parenting. 401 00:13:49,358 --> 00:13:50,627 - She plays the game. She plays the game. 402 00:13:50,661 --> 00:13:52,865 - I would walk-- tread very lightly. 403 00:13:52,898 --> 00:13:54,334 - Nobody commented on your parenting. 404 00:13:54,368 --> 00:13:55,871 - 'Cause you just said a good-- - Your just calling me 405 00:13:55,904 --> 00:13:57,842 practically, like, a sexual predator. 406 00:13:57,875 --> 00:13:59,846 So what are you putting it out there to the universe? 407 00:13:59,879 --> 00:14:01,315 - By the way, you're very offended 408 00:14:01,348 --> 00:14:02,918 by the word "pornography." There's nothing--it's just-- 409 00:14:02,952 --> 00:14:04,856 - Because it's not pornography. - Really? 410 00:14:04,889 --> 00:14:08,462 I think Merriam-Webster would beg to differ. 411 00:14:08,496 --> 00:14:10,634 - Patrick from Omaha said, "Emily, you've always been 412 00:14:10,667 --> 00:14:12,605 "my favorite, but I think you went too far 413 00:14:12,638 --> 00:14:14,609 "arguing with Noella this season. 414 00:14:14,642 --> 00:14:16,646 "I know she talked about her divorce a lot, 415 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,650 but isn't that what friends are for?" 416 00:14:18,683 --> 00:14:20,988 - You know, I don't think I went too far. 417 00:14:21,021 --> 00:14:23,125 First of all, Jen was trying to talk, 418 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:24,996 and Noella never let her have a moment. 419 00:14:25,029 --> 00:14:27,000 And I was really trying to connect with Jen, because-- 420 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:28,537 - That's not true. - No, it is true. 421 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:30,339 Because I had been there, and I kept trying 422 00:14:30,373 --> 00:14:33,079 to have a conversation with her about something meaningful 423 00:14:33,112 --> 00:14:34,949 about marriage and relationships. 424 00:14:34,982 --> 00:14:37,153 And you just kept bringing up things about your divorce, 425 00:14:37,187 --> 00:14:39,091 and it just seemed very inappropriate. 426 00:14:39,124 --> 00:14:41,061 So you're willing to do whatever it takes? 427 00:14:41,095 --> 00:14:42,363 - Yes. 428 00:14:42,397 --> 00:14:44,635 - Therapy, whatever. Let's make it work. 429 00:14:44,669 --> 00:14:47,975 - No. 430 00:14:48,008 --> 00:14:49,979 You're making it seem like she's weeping in a corner. 431 00:14:50,012 --> 00:14:51,583 - So I was trying to-- - I was weeping. 432 00:14:51,616 --> 00:14:53,920 - When you said to her, "It's all you talk about." 433 00:14:53,954 --> 00:14:55,156 You were, like, yelled it and it-- 434 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:56,593 - 'Cause she was at her wits' end. 435 00:14:56,626 --> 00:14:58,028 I was. I was. 436 00:14:58,062 --> 00:14:59,397 - But when you say, "It's all you talk about." 437 00:14:59,431 --> 00:15:00,634 - It is all she talks about. 438 00:15:00,667 --> 00:15:01,669 Well, and Heather assaulting people. 439 00:15:01,703 --> 00:15:04,374 - I'm talking as a woman whose husband just left 440 00:15:04,408 --> 00:15:07,046 to a woman whose husband just left. 441 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,184 What do you have to do with that conversation? 442 00:15:09,217 --> 00:15:10,654 Butt out. 443 00:15:10,687 --> 00:15:12,958 - Shiloh from Sparks, Nevada, said, 444 00:15:12,992 --> 00:15:15,531 "Gina, your friendship with Noella started strong, 445 00:15:15,564 --> 00:15:18,169 "but it took a pretty hard turn for the worse. 446 00:15:18,202 --> 00:15:20,173 "What was it that really tore you apart? 447 00:15:20,206 --> 00:15:22,978 And what would it take to repair things?" 448 00:15:23,012 --> 00:15:25,049 - For me, it just has to be slow and steady. 449 00:15:25,082 --> 00:15:26,619 I feel like, you know what? 450 00:15:26,653 --> 00:15:29,157 I was there the day that she found out everything. 451 00:15:29,191 --> 00:15:30,727 And that was the first time I hung out with her. 452 00:15:30,761 --> 00:15:32,197 And I remember driving home, 453 00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:34,067 and this is--I don't mean this in a negative way. 454 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:35,671 But I was, like, actually having her over. 455 00:15:35,704 --> 00:15:37,207 I was, like, excited. 'Cause I was like, 456 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,211 "Oh, Noella is so sad. I'm gonna cheer her up. 457 00:15:39,244 --> 00:15:40,948 "I'm gonna do--we're gonna do fun things. 458 00:15:40,981 --> 00:15:44,020 I want to do fun things." So I jumped in two feet. 459 00:15:44,054 --> 00:15:47,227 And so for me it just was a little bit too much. 460 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:51,068 And I chose to take a step back to guard myself. 461 00:15:51,101 --> 00:15:53,740 - It's a lot. Listen, did I become 462 00:15:53,773 --> 00:15:58,082 extra-needy, paranoid, and with anxiety made me--like, 463 00:15:58,115 --> 00:16:00,086 I looked back, and I cringe. 464 00:16:00,119 --> 00:16:01,990 Like, I'm just like, "Who was that person?" 465 00:16:02,023 --> 00:16:03,994 - Well, it was probably the worst part of your life. 466 00:16:04,027 --> 00:16:05,096 - It was the worst part. 467 00:16:05,129 --> 00:16:06,131 It was the worst part of my life. 468 00:16:06,165 --> 00:16:07,033 And to have to relive it, 469 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:09,972 just to have your life, like, fall apart 470 00:16:10,006 --> 00:16:12,177 and to be in the situation where you don't know 471 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:14,447 if you're making the right decision for your family, 472 00:16:14,481 --> 00:16:18,022 for your mental health, for your financial future, 473 00:16:18,055 --> 00:16:21,028 and that you girls were instantly like a sisterhood 474 00:16:21,061 --> 00:16:24,067 for me that I really--like, and I know leaned hard. 475 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:26,305 And I know that I was a lot. 476 00:16:26,338 --> 00:16:28,108 - That's okay. I can take a lot. 477 00:16:28,142 --> 00:16:30,246 - But I really--there was genuine love there, 478 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:31,749 and I love--and I always 479 00:16:31,783 --> 00:16:33,620 am gonna appreciate you guys for that. 480 00:16:33,653 --> 00:16:34,755 So I missed you. 481 00:16:34,789 --> 00:16:36,291 - I just turtle-shelled a bit, 482 00:16:36,325 --> 00:16:38,162 because it became too much for me. 483 00:16:38,195 --> 00:16:39,497 - It was a lot. Yeah. 484 00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:40,667 - And I was going into self-preservation mode. 485 00:16:40,701 --> 00:16:44,140 - Noella, if you could start the season all over again... 486 00:16:44,174 --> 00:16:44,976 - Yeah. 487 00:16:45,009 --> 00:16:46,746 - Would you do anything differently? 488 00:16:46,779 --> 00:16:48,215 - I probably wouldn't have done this show if I knew 489 00:16:48,249 --> 00:16:50,052 that this was coming for real. 490 00:16:50,086 --> 00:16:51,288 - Really? - Yeah. 491 00:16:51,321 --> 00:16:54,027 - But do you think you'd still be married? 492 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:56,298 - I wouldn't have put this all out there. 493 00:16:56,331 --> 00:17:02,243 ♪ ♪ 494 00:17:02,277 --> 00:17:03,647 - Coming up... 495 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,784 Nina from Spokane says, "Shannon, you've said 496 00:17:05,817 --> 00:17:08,790 "that you're having the best sex of your life 497 00:17:08,823 --> 00:17:11,829 now that you're with John. What's the secret, girl?" 498 00:17:11,863 --> 00:17:13,232 - Oh, my gosh. 499 00:17:21,081 --> 00:17:22,785 - Welcome back to "The Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion." 500 00:17:22,818 --> 00:17:25,356 I'm Andy Cohen. Rosie from Phoenix said, 501 00:17:25,389 --> 00:17:27,528 "Heather, you took Jen and Emily to the sauna 502 00:17:27,561 --> 00:17:29,231 "for a relaxing girls' day 503 00:17:29,264 --> 00:17:32,136 only to have Emily bust out a turkey sandwich." 504 00:17:32,170 --> 00:17:34,407 - Oh, my God. I feel like I'm gonna pass out. 505 00:17:34,441 --> 00:17:36,111 - Are you eating a sandwich? 506 00:17:36,144 --> 00:17:37,413 - Yeah, is that wrong? 507 00:17:37,447 --> 00:17:40,353 - We're detoxing. - It's turkey. 508 00:17:40,386 --> 00:17:43,225 - What part of detoxing does she not understand? 509 00:17:43,259 --> 00:17:46,365 - I mean, it's kind of like eating on the toilet. 510 00:17:46,398 --> 00:17:48,068 - Emily, you got that tampon? 511 00:17:48,102 --> 00:17:49,337 - I do, but I can't find toilet paper. 512 00:17:49,371 --> 00:17:53,412 - You need a sandwich? - I would like a sandwich. 513 00:17:53,445 --> 00:17:55,584 - Oh, my God. - She did. She took a sandwich. 514 00:17:55,617 --> 00:17:56,819 - That's my nightmare. - I was hungry. 515 00:17:56,853 --> 00:18:01,228 - Emily likes a sandwich, and I appreciate that about you. 516 00:18:01,261 --> 00:18:02,831 - Danielle from O'Fallon, Missouri, said, 517 00:18:02,865 --> 00:18:04,334 "Dr. Jen, you're the expert. 518 00:18:04,367 --> 00:18:06,405 Who here had the best work done?" 519 00:18:06,438 --> 00:18:07,608 - Such a loaded question. 520 00:18:07,641 --> 00:18:10,413 - Come on. - I know. 521 00:18:12,183 --> 00:18:14,387 - Shannon, you look great. Actually, you look very lifted. 522 00:18:14,421 --> 00:18:17,260 - I had facelift five weeks ago. 523 00:18:17,293 --> 00:18:18,128 - What? 524 00:18:18,162 --> 00:18:19,397 - Yeah, I could tell. - That looks nice. 525 00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:20,867 - That's a total Vicky move. 526 00:18:20,901 --> 00:18:22,236 - Do you want to see my incisions from my-- 527 00:18:22,270 --> 00:18:23,607 - No, I don't. 528 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,309 - No, they're good. Look at how good they are. 529 00:18:25,343 --> 00:18:27,180 They're little dots. - I don't want to see. 530 00:18:27,213 --> 00:18:28,182 I don't want to see. I don't want to see anything. 531 00:18:28,215 --> 00:18:29,317 - I was gutted. - Okay. 532 00:18:29,351 --> 00:18:30,854 - That's why I feel puffy. - Okay. 533 00:18:30,887 --> 00:18:32,256 - And then the surgeon called John and said, 534 00:18:32,290 --> 00:18:35,196 "I ever cut more skin out of a neck 535 00:18:35,229 --> 00:18:36,866 in my entire career than I have for Shannon." 536 00:18:36,899 --> 00:18:38,469 - My reunion prep was a colonoscopy. 537 00:18:38,503 --> 00:18:40,172 I thought I was gonna be skinny. 538 00:18:40,206 --> 00:18:41,876 I'm not even joking. That's right. 539 00:18:41,909 --> 00:18:43,178 - I just worked out. 540 00:18:43,212 --> 00:18:45,182 - Heather, you said you pull your hair into a high pony 541 00:18:45,216 --> 00:18:46,819 so you don't have to get a facelift. 542 00:18:46,853 --> 00:18:48,288 - Yeah. - Any other tricks 543 00:18:48,322 --> 00:18:50,226 you've learned as the wife of a plastic surgeon? 544 00:18:50,259 --> 00:18:52,296 - Well, I do like, you know, some sculptra. 545 00:18:52,330 --> 00:18:54,434 And I like some Botox, and I do those, like, 546 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:57,173 little maintenance things. Whatever makes you happy 547 00:18:57,206 --> 00:18:59,477 and makes you feel confident that's what you do. 548 00:18:59,512 --> 00:19:02,651 - I've been CoolSculpting like nobody's business. 549 00:19:02,685 --> 00:19:04,321 - Really? - Yes. 550 00:19:04,354 --> 00:19:06,325 - I've done Botox, filler, laser since the show wrapped. 551 00:19:06,358 --> 00:19:08,362 And I would love to do some threads right after. 552 00:19:08,395 --> 00:19:10,867 - Okay. - That's my plan. 553 00:19:10,901 --> 00:19:12,337 - After years of navigating 554 00:19:12,370 --> 00:19:15,343 the rough waters of heartbreak and divorce, 555 00:19:15,376 --> 00:19:19,217 Shannon Storms is redefining what it means 556 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:22,457 to be smooth sailing. Take a look. 557 00:19:22,490 --> 00:19:24,862 - Life for me continues to be great. 558 00:19:24,895 --> 00:19:27,935 I'm just a lot busier. Oh, my God. 559 00:19:27,968 --> 00:19:31,509 These pants are no bueno. These are not good. 560 00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:32,878 - Shannon. 561 00:19:32,911 --> 00:19:34,481 - I just had to iron myself little. 562 00:19:34,515 --> 00:19:36,485 - What are you doing? You're going to burn yourself. 563 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:38,489 - No, I'm good. 564 00:19:43,399 --> 00:19:44,535 - Not Mom. - Not Mommy. 565 00:19:44,568 --> 00:19:46,506 Not Mommy. - Not Mommy. 566 00:19:46,539 --> 00:19:50,379 I was in a marriage that wasn't healthy. 567 00:19:50,413 --> 00:19:52,684 And my kids saw that. Why are you angry? 568 00:19:52,718 --> 00:19:54,220 - 'Cause I see how much stress 569 00:19:54,254 --> 00:19:55,456 you're under and how it's a lot. 570 00:19:55,489 --> 00:19:56,893 - Well, I don't want you to stress out. 571 00:19:56,926 --> 00:19:58,295 - Well, it's your problem. 572 00:19:58,328 --> 00:19:59,431 There's nothing I can do to control 573 00:19:59,464 --> 00:20:01,268 any of your problems. And I know that. 574 00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:03,238 - I am driven more than ever. I'll do whatever it takes, 575 00:20:03,272 --> 00:20:07,447 because I'm not going to let my children down again. 576 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,983 You guys are growing up. 577 00:20:09,017 --> 00:20:11,288 Sometimes it's a lot for me to think about. 578 00:20:11,321 --> 00:20:12,423 - You'll be all alone. 579 00:20:12,457 --> 00:20:14,294 - Solo. - Solo. 580 00:20:14,327 --> 00:20:16,966 - I don't want to be alone. I mean, I'm happy with John. 581 00:20:16,999 --> 00:20:20,439 When my kids go to school, we'll be both empty-nesters. 582 00:20:20,473 --> 00:20:22,276 We gotta get a cleat here. 583 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:23,445 - Throw it onto the bow. 584 00:20:23,479 --> 00:20:25,984 - I have so many good things happening for me right now. 585 00:20:26,017 --> 00:20:28,255 It's, like, it's everything that I've ever wanted. 586 00:20:28,288 --> 00:20:31,495 - Get that bow line under control. 587 00:20:31,529 --> 00:20:33,031 That doesn't look good. 588 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:37,473 - We've never experienced this level of intimacy 589 00:20:37,508 --> 00:20:39,010 with any other partner. 590 00:20:39,043 --> 00:20:41,014 I didn't know, you know, 591 00:20:41,047 --> 00:20:42,350 some of this stuff was possible. 592 00:20:42,383 --> 00:20:44,955 - Your libido's not low. That's one area you're okay. 593 00:20:44,989 --> 00:20:46,559 - I know, but why is that? - That's because of me. 594 00:20:46,592 --> 00:20:49,464 [laughter] 595 00:20:49,497 --> 00:20:51,268 - Gee, you're right. 596 00:20:51,301 --> 00:20:52,738 You could be right. 597 00:20:52,771 --> 00:20:54,474 - All right. 598 00:20:54,508 --> 00:20:56,579 You know, after everything you've been through, 599 00:20:56,612 --> 00:20:59,317 it seems like you are really embracing life 600 00:20:59,350 --> 00:21:02,356 as a single mom and a businesswoman. 601 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:05,296 What advice would you give yourself 602 00:21:05,329 --> 00:21:08,536 when you joined this show to-- - Oh, wow. 603 00:21:08,570 --> 00:21:11,007 - Or what would you say to that person? 604 00:21:11,041 --> 00:21:14,013 - You know, that there is life beyond, 605 00:21:14,047 --> 00:21:16,619 and you can succeed on your own. 606 00:21:16,652 --> 00:21:18,355 And you don't need anybody. 607 00:21:18,388 --> 00:21:19,758 I just thought that I was trapped in this life 608 00:21:19,792 --> 00:21:22,463 and that accept it. Put a smile on your face, 609 00:21:22,497 --> 00:21:24,467 and this is as good as it's gonna get. 610 00:21:24,502 --> 00:21:26,371 - Heather, you've known Shannon the longest. 611 00:21:26,404 --> 00:21:27,273 How has she changed? 612 00:21:27,306 --> 00:21:29,077 - Oh, my gosh, so much more confident. 613 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:31,481 So independent. I'm very proud of you. 614 00:21:31,516 --> 00:21:32,985 - Thank you. - I get emotional. 615 00:21:33,018 --> 00:21:34,788 But I can't imagine what it's like to be 616 00:21:34,822 --> 00:21:36,458 in a relationship like that. 617 00:21:36,491 --> 00:21:38,596 Extract yourself however it happened. 618 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:40,399 But you gave 100%. 619 00:21:40,432 --> 00:21:42,805 You love your family, and look at you. 620 00:21:42,838 --> 00:21:44,073 You're doing amazing. - Thank you. 621 00:21:44,107 --> 00:21:45,075 - You're doing amazing, sweetie. 622 00:21:45,109 --> 00:21:46,579 - Thank you. 623 00:21:46,612 --> 00:21:48,482 - You and David really went through it during your marriage 624 00:21:48,516 --> 00:21:50,319 and then during your divorce. 625 00:21:50,352 --> 00:21:53,358 How would you describe your relationship with your ex now? 626 00:21:53,392 --> 00:21:56,498 - It's nonexistent, and nothing has changed. 627 00:21:56,532 --> 00:21:58,402 - And do you ever run into either of them? 628 00:21:58,435 --> 00:22:00,039 - No. No. It's weird. 629 00:22:00,072 --> 00:22:01,408 - It's weird for such a small town. 630 00:22:01,441 --> 00:22:03,546 We really--you don't run into people. 631 00:22:03,580 --> 00:22:04,414 - No. 632 00:22:04,447 --> 00:22:06,418 - Scarlet from Hoover, Alabama, said, 633 00:22:06,451 --> 00:22:08,488 "Shannon, Sophie said that her boyfriend gives her 634 00:22:08,523 --> 00:22:10,861 what she never had at home growing up." 635 00:22:10,894 --> 00:22:12,831 - It's everything that I've never 636 00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:14,568 got to experience as a kid. 637 00:22:14,602 --> 00:22:16,071 - And that breaks my heart. 638 00:22:16,104 --> 00:22:18,576 - Sometimes I feel like, "Oh, I don't deserve it." 639 00:22:18,610 --> 00:22:20,547 - You shouldn't think that way. 640 00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:22,483 - What do you think she meant by that, 641 00:22:22,518 --> 00:22:23,385 and how did it make you feel? 642 00:22:23,418 --> 00:22:24,889 - I thought I was doing the right thing, 643 00:22:24,922 --> 00:22:27,426 and I feel so guilty for the lessons 644 00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,428 and the relationship 645 00:22:28,462 --> 00:22:32,103 that I emulated for my children to learn from. 646 00:22:32,136 --> 00:22:34,440 Sophie had a tough time in high school, 647 00:22:34,474 --> 00:22:35,677 and she's so happy in Texas. 648 00:22:35,710 --> 00:22:38,448 And she's in a relationship with a great kid. 649 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:39,885 They're at my house right now. 650 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:42,524 And he treats her with nothing but kindness and respect. 651 00:22:42,558 --> 00:22:46,398 And she says, "Like, I know how it's supposed to be." 652 00:22:46,431 --> 00:22:47,534 - Wow. - And I just hope 653 00:22:47,568 --> 00:22:50,507 that all my kids can get to that space. 654 00:22:50,540 --> 00:22:52,476 - Leilani from San Diego said, "Shannon, 655 00:22:52,511 --> 00:22:54,915 "you struggled for years to get over your divorce. 656 00:22:54,949 --> 00:22:58,388 "You have seemed to have found a great man in John, 657 00:22:58,422 --> 00:23:00,727 but he's avoiding talking about marriage." 658 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,133 - Shannon and I, we're totally committed to each other. 659 00:23:04,167 --> 00:23:06,606 We're in no hurry to get married. 660 00:23:06,639 --> 00:23:08,576 - How does that feel? - We do talk about it, 661 00:23:08,610 --> 00:23:11,147 but it's not something that we need to rush to do. 662 00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:13,686 We're happy. And I have two kids 663 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,624 that are gonna be home for another year and a half. 664 00:23:15,657 --> 00:23:17,093 So I'm not doing anything right now. 665 00:23:17,126 --> 00:23:18,428 - He knows that. - Do want to get married again? 666 00:23:18,462 --> 00:23:19,565 - Absolutely. Yeah, I do. - You do. 667 00:23:19,598 --> 00:23:20,667 - Mm-hmm. 668 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:22,671 - Olivia from Lewiston, Maine, said, 669 00:23:22,704 --> 00:23:26,177 "Gina, how did you feel when Travis had a ready answer 670 00:23:26,211 --> 00:23:28,148 to Terry's questions about marriage?" 671 00:23:28,181 --> 00:23:29,952 - The whole nuptial thing, 672 00:23:29,985 --> 00:23:31,889 is that a thing in the near future? 673 00:23:31,923 --> 00:23:33,693 - I would say Gina and I would probably get married 674 00:23:33,726 --> 00:23:35,129 before John and Shannon. 675 00:23:35,162 --> 00:23:37,500 - Oh, I want a date. - Like me you're-- 676 00:23:37,534 --> 00:23:41,474 - But John didn't. Is Shannon barking up the wrong tree? 677 00:23:41,509 --> 00:23:43,546 - I was happy Travis had a response, 678 00:23:43,579 --> 00:23:46,719 but I don't think that means a negative thing for Shannon. 679 00:23:46,752 --> 00:23:49,123 I just, you know-- - It doesn't. 680 00:23:49,157 --> 00:23:51,662 - Nina from Spokane says, "Shannon, you've said 681 00:23:51,696 --> 00:23:54,601 "that you're having the best sex of your life 682 00:23:54,635 --> 00:23:57,574 now that you're with John. What's the secret, girl?" 683 00:23:57,608 --> 00:23:59,444 - Oh, my gosh. 684 00:23:59,477 --> 00:24:02,618 I mean, it's just--you know, some of it's in your head. 685 00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:04,655 When you're happy and you're with someone, 686 00:24:04,688 --> 00:24:06,659 you know, everything is better. 687 00:24:06,692 --> 00:24:09,665 It was just kind of a nonexistent act 688 00:24:09,698 --> 00:24:11,502 in my prior life. - Right. 689 00:24:11,535 --> 00:24:13,539 - So it's a little bit different now. 690 00:24:13,573 --> 00:24:15,510 - Maria from Toronto said, "Shannon, I think 691 00:24:15,543 --> 00:24:16,779 "it's really sweet that you and John 692 00:24:16,812 --> 00:24:18,650 "are not interested in a threesome, 693 00:24:18,683 --> 00:24:21,589 but I have to know, who's your celebrity hall pass?" 694 00:24:21,622 --> 00:24:26,164 - I know this may sound crazy, but I've never thought of it. 695 00:24:26,197 --> 00:24:27,567 - I have one. 696 00:24:27,601 --> 00:24:29,605 - I'm a monogamous person. Is that bad? 697 00:24:29,638 --> 00:24:30,740 - Who's yours, Emily? 698 00:24:30,774 --> 00:24:32,744 - Oh, the hot guy from "Sons of Anarchy." 699 00:24:32,778 --> 00:24:34,648 - Jax. - Who's yours, Noella? 700 00:24:34,682 --> 00:24:36,484 - My boyfriend kind of looks like him. 701 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,823 - Oh, well, lucky you. 702 00:24:38,856 --> 00:24:40,627 - Noella, who's yours? 703 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:42,764 - God, just because she's a classic, Janet Jackson. 704 00:24:42,798 --> 00:24:44,233 - Who's yours? 705 00:24:44,267 --> 00:24:45,235 - I don't--I don't have one. - Who's yours? 706 00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:46,237 - Sean Penn. 707 00:24:46,271 --> 00:24:47,708 - Sean Penn? - Wow. 708 00:24:47,741 --> 00:24:49,812 - Jimmy Fallon. - Really? 709 00:24:49,845 --> 00:24:51,982 - Wait. Who-- - That's so you. 710 00:24:52,016 --> 00:24:52,918 [laughs] 711 00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:55,255 - No, I love it. That's very interesting. 712 00:24:55,289 --> 00:24:59,531 Let's take a break. We'll be right back. 713 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:00,499 Coming up... 714 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:02,637 - You were so controlling of the friend group 715 00:25:02,671 --> 00:25:04,207 that nobody could be nice to me. 716 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,677 Nobody could have a human experience with me. 717 00:25:05,710 --> 00:25:06,846 - Yes, it's all me, Noella. We all agree. 718 00:25:06,879 --> 00:25:08,583 - That's not--that's not-- 719 00:25:08,616 --> 00:25:09,852 - I was trying to help you have a breakthrough. 720 00:25:09,885 --> 00:25:12,223 - Okay. All right. All right. 721 00:25:20,172 --> 00:25:22,143 - We are back with "The Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion." 722 00:25:22,176 --> 00:25:23,613 I'm Andy Cohen. 723 00:25:23,646 --> 00:25:27,153 While Dr. Jen Armstrong's career is enviable, 724 00:25:27,186 --> 00:25:30,292 the same could not be said for her relationship. 725 00:25:30,325 --> 00:25:32,296 Much like her husband's shirts, 726 00:25:32,329 --> 00:25:35,169 was something in her marriage missing? 727 00:25:35,202 --> 00:25:38,576 Let's watch. 728 00:25:38,609 --> 00:25:40,245 - Hey, good morning. - Good morning. 729 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,551 - I'm an aesthetic medicine physician, 730 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:44,253 so make people pretty for a living. 731 00:25:44,287 --> 00:25:45,623 - Jen is the full package. 732 00:25:45,657 --> 00:25:48,295 She is educated, she works full-time, 733 00:25:48,328 --> 00:25:52,637 she is a mom, and she's doing it all in stilettos. 734 00:25:52,671 --> 00:25:54,173 I mean, it's impressive. 735 00:25:54,207 --> 00:25:55,777 - Ryne and I do have an unconventional relationship. 736 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:58,683 He always puts being a father before anything else. 737 00:25:58,716 --> 00:26:00,219 Sometimes before being a husband. 738 00:26:00,252 --> 00:26:03,593 - Do you call him Ryan or Ryne? - I go by his birth name. 739 00:26:03,626 --> 00:26:06,197 - Ryne. - Hi, Brian. How are you? 740 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:07,701 - Ryne. How are you, sir? - Ryne? 741 00:26:07,734 --> 00:26:09,170 - Ryne. 742 00:26:09,203 --> 00:26:10,740 - Ryne? Ryne. 743 00:26:10,774 --> 00:26:12,611 - Like the river. 744 00:26:12,644 --> 00:26:14,715 - I thought it was Rind with a D. 745 00:26:14,748 --> 00:26:17,621 - It is technically. - Is it Ryne or Ryan? 746 00:26:17,654 --> 00:26:19,023 - Ryan. - Okay. 747 00:26:19,056 --> 00:26:20,627 So we're going with Ryan. - We're going with Ryan. 748 00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:23,666 - Okay. Good deal. Consistency is key, so... 749 00:26:23,699 --> 00:26:25,302 - Where are the kids, and where's Ryne? 750 00:26:25,335 --> 00:26:28,643 - Oh, they apparently went to an end-of-summer dinner. 751 00:26:28,676 --> 00:26:29,812 - Oh, why are you excluded? 752 00:26:29,845 --> 00:26:33,686 - I feel completely alone right now. 753 00:26:33,719 --> 00:26:34,788 - And... 754 00:26:42,704 --> 00:26:45,242 - Can we not talk about this? I'd rather not talk about this. 755 00:26:45,275 --> 00:26:46,712 - What? - All of this. 756 00:26:46,745 --> 00:26:50,052 - Why can't we just-- - Just that's enough. 757 00:26:50,085 --> 00:26:52,223 - Ryne packed his bags and left last night. 758 00:26:52,256 --> 00:26:53,358 - What? - Holy sh--. 759 00:26:53,391 --> 00:26:54,828 - I think we both want it to work, 760 00:26:54,862 --> 00:26:56,364 but we don't know how to make it work. 761 00:26:56,397 --> 00:26:58,636 I will fight for my marriage and my relationship, 762 00:26:58,669 --> 00:27:00,840 because I don't want to fail. 763 00:27:00,874 --> 00:27:04,280 - Can you kiss me on the lips like we're married? 764 00:27:04,313 --> 00:27:06,284 - Yes. 765 00:27:12,463 --> 00:27:14,868 - Where are you going? 766 00:27:14,902 --> 00:27:17,808 - Let's be honest. They're a mess. 767 00:27:17,841 --> 00:27:19,343 [laughter] 768 00:27:19,377 --> 00:27:21,649 - Don't say that. 769 00:27:21,682 --> 00:27:23,084 - All right. - Okay. 770 00:27:23,118 --> 00:27:24,855 - Let's get the most important question out of the way. 771 00:27:24,888 --> 00:27:26,391 Have you learned how to pronounce 772 00:27:26,424 --> 00:27:28,863 your husband's name yet? 773 00:27:28,896 --> 00:27:32,403 - It's Ryne per him, but I call him Ryan, so... 774 00:27:32,436 --> 00:27:33,773 - Okay. 775 00:27:33,806 --> 00:27:35,108 - Just 'cause it's--I just do. Ryan. 776 00:27:35,142 --> 00:27:36,311 - Hailey from New Hampshire said, 777 00:27:36,344 --> 00:27:37,714 "Does he actually make money? 778 00:27:37,747 --> 00:27:39,417 And how does he feel about you being the breadwinner?" 779 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,421 - He does. He has a company, Hawaii Hideaways. 780 00:27:41,454 --> 00:27:43,893 It's become very successful. 781 00:27:43,926 --> 00:27:46,765 So--and he rents to pretty high-end celebrities. 782 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,301 He doesn't tell me anything about it. 783 00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:49,705 'Cause I'm like, "I will tell everybody. 784 00:27:49,738 --> 00:27:50,874 So just don't tell me." 785 00:27:50,907 --> 00:27:52,309 - You know, I'm assuming with your practice 786 00:27:52,343 --> 00:27:53,846 that you are the bigger breadwinner. 787 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,415 - It was like that for many years. 788 00:27:55,449 --> 00:27:58,355 We're becoming more equalized now trying to work 789 00:27:58,388 --> 00:28:00,425 on our relationship and put more balance. 790 00:28:00,459 --> 00:28:02,898 We're too far apart. I mean, obviously you can see 791 00:28:02,931 --> 00:28:04,768 that we're, like, in different worlds. 792 00:28:04,801 --> 00:28:07,306 It was interesting watching the show, 793 00:28:07,339 --> 00:28:09,912 because it was almost therapeutic to be like, 794 00:28:09,945 --> 00:28:11,782 "Holy sh--. We gotta change this. 795 00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:15,790 Like, this is just way too far. And we're both very unhappy." 796 00:28:15,823 --> 00:28:17,794 - There are some couples who have been on the show 797 00:28:17,827 --> 00:28:20,399 who actually credited it for helping them, 798 00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:23,371 because it helped them see things in themselves. 799 00:28:23,405 --> 00:28:27,413 He clearly, though, does not like being on camera. 800 00:28:27,446 --> 00:28:29,718 - He said, "I'm not successful when I try to get deep 801 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:30,720 "and talk about emotions. 802 00:28:30,753 --> 00:28:33,458 And I don't want to be not successful on camera." 803 00:28:33,491 --> 00:28:35,797 Like, that would--and I-- - He's self-conscious. 804 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:38,401 - I said, "Actually, that's actually legitimate." 805 00:28:38,435 --> 00:28:39,470 - That makes sense. 806 00:28:39,504 --> 00:28:40,640 - Jen had hooked me up with Ryne 807 00:28:40,673 --> 00:28:44,347 before I met him to talk about a vacation rental. 808 00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:45,449 - Uh-huh. 809 00:28:45,482 --> 00:28:46,619 - So I spoke to him on the phone, 810 00:28:46,652 --> 00:28:50,492 and he was so, like, personable and outgoing and great. 811 00:28:50,526 --> 00:28:52,964 And then when I met him, it was a completely different person. 812 00:28:52,998 --> 00:28:54,968 He's obviously very... - Introvert. 813 00:28:55,002 --> 00:28:56,772 - You know, shy and introverted anyway. 814 00:28:56,805 --> 00:28:58,108 And then to have the cameras around, 815 00:28:58,141 --> 00:29:00,412 I just think that was just a lot for him. 816 00:29:00,445 --> 00:29:01,882 - Right. 817 00:29:01,916 --> 00:29:04,487 - I just think men in general just have a hard time with it. 818 00:29:04,521 --> 00:29:05,690 I mean, it took a while with Shane. 819 00:29:05,723 --> 00:29:07,794 He didn't want to talk about things on camera. 820 00:29:07,827 --> 00:29:10,833 - Not Terry. Point a camera, and that man's happy. 821 00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:12,837 - Bridget from Twin Falls is worried 822 00:29:12,871 --> 00:29:16,979 that Ryne loves Mr. Poppers more than you. 823 00:29:17,012 --> 00:29:18,415 Do you share that concern? 824 00:29:18,448 --> 00:29:19,885 - I think I brought that up on camera. 825 00:29:19,918 --> 00:29:21,421 I'm like, "Can you just treat me like the dog? 826 00:29:21,454 --> 00:29:24,427 We'll be good. We'll be great." - Wow. 827 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:27,934 - Treat me like the dog. That's the standard. 828 00:29:27,968 --> 00:29:29,370 - Yvonne from West Hollywood said, 829 00:29:29,403 --> 00:29:31,508 "Heather, at Max's book party Jen said 830 00:29:31,542 --> 00:29:34,347 "it was love at first sight for her with Ryne. 831 00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:37,554 "But Ryne said he's still coming around to Jen. 832 00:29:37,587 --> 00:29:39,190 How did that make you feel?" 833 00:29:39,223 --> 00:29:40,526 - Oh, my God. But that's the joke I make about Terry. 834 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,864 I say it was love at first sight for him, 835 00:29:42,897 --> 00:29:44,467 and I'm still weighing my options. 836 00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:45,536 So, like, I--and I keep-- 837 00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:47,239 - You got it. - I totally got it. 838 00:29:47,272 --> 00:29:49,243 And I say, "Like, you're married to Terry." 839 00:29:49,276 --> 00:29:51,014 - How did you feel when he said it? 840 00:29:51,047 --> 00:29:53,018 - A little bit hurt, but it's actually kind of true. 841 00:29:53,051 --> 00:29:56,558 I haven't had a super smooth relationship with anyone. 842 00:29:56,592 --> 00:29:59,030 - You revealed that you were engaged 843 00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:00,833 seven times before Ryne. 844 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:03,004 - Yeah. It's true. It was like every two years. 845 00:30:03,038 --> 00:30:04,541 - Why was he different? 846 00:30:04,574 --> 00:30:06,377 - From the second I saw him, literally, 847 00:30:06,411 --> 00:30:08,516 it was--I mean, it's so cliché, love at first sight. 848 00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:11,020 But at the breakfast buffet it was love at first sight. 849 00:30:11,054 --> 00:30:12,423 - Wow. 850 00:30:12,456 --> 00:30:13,559 - I thought it made sense, though, what you said, 851 00:30:13,592 --> 00:30:14,661 like, to me watching it. 852 00:30:14,695 --> 00:30:16,565 'Cause, you know, you don't know everything, 853 00:30:16,598 --> 00:30:17,967 and watching it I was like, "That really makes sense." 854 00:30:18,001 --> 00:30:19,504 Like, your father had passed away the time 855 00:30:19,538 --> 00:30:22,443 you were in your life. He was fun. He was light. 856 00:30:22,476 --> 00:30:23,913 He was Diet Coke. And, like, 857 00:30:23,946 --> 00:30:25,883 it was what you needed in your life at the time. 858 00:30:25,917 --> 00:30:27,453 - Bigger. - Like your ginger ale? 859 00:30:27,486 --> 00:30:29,056 - It was light and breezy and almost freeing at the time. 860 00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:30,626 - Like your IV? - But then we have, like, 861 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:32,931 a real life with three kids and two businesses. 862 00:30:32,964 --> 00:30:34,066 And that's heavy. - Yes. 863 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:35,235 - How do you handle heavy things 864 00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:36,471 when you were light and breezy? 865 00:30:36,505 --> 00:30:38,208 It came to a head like a pimple. 866 00:30:38,241 --> 00:30:40,012 It came to a head, and-- 867 00:30:40,045 --> 00:30:42,483 - So satisfying. - Extractions. 868 00:30:42,517 --> 00:30:45,455 - He did; he moved out for a little while. 869 00:30:45,489 --> 00:30:47,927 And it helped. It kind of reset. 870 00:30:47,961 --> 00:30:50,065 There was peace in the house. I was with the kids. 871 00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:53,038 It was actually really helpful. It was very helpful. 872 00:30:53,071 --> 00:30:54,608 - I really have a good feeling that the two of them 873 00:30:54,641 --> 00:30:57,046 are gonna figure it out. I really do. 874 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:58,616 - I like the positive encouragement. 875 00:30:58,649 --> 00:31:01,955 - And if you're showing up you will. 876 00:31:01,989 --> 00:31:05,963 - And so you feel how as we close this conversation? 877 00:31:05,997 --> 00:31:07,634 - I feel hopeful. 878 00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:10,238 It's actually peace and some laughter where you're like, 879 00:31:10,272 --> 00:31:12,510 "I want to be in this again." 880 00:31:12,544 --> 00:31:14,581 - Okay. Let's lighten things up and talk 881 00:31:14,614 --> 00:31:15,683 about the trip to Aspen. 882 00:31:15,717 --> 00:31:18,956 Shannon, I was sorry to see that your bear prank... 883 00:31:18,989 --> 00:31:20,292 - Epic fail. - Kind of fizzled. 884 00:31:20,325 --> 00:31:23,098 - Epic fail. - It did. 885 00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:24,300 - Oh, my gosh. 886 00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:25,937 [laughs] 887 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:30,011 Ahh! 888 00:31:30,045 --> 00:31:31,114 I screamed. 889 00:31:31,147 --> 00:31:33,986 - I mean, not even Gina was scared. 890 00:31:34,019 --> 00:31:36,290 - Okay. But I have to tell-- I have to tell you this. 891 00:31:36,324 --> 00:31:38,529 The footage of us getting ready-- 892 00:31:38,562 --> 00:31:39,931 - That was the most fun. The house was 893 00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:41,668 20,000 square feet. So why she and I 894 00:31:41,702 --> 00:31:45,977 were in a pantry that was literally, like, 4x4... 895 00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:47,947 - Get your hair in there. - My hair doesn't fit. 896 00:31:47,981 --> 00:31:51,020 - Get it up. Oh, my God. They're gonna see. 897 00:31:51,053 --> 00:31:52,991 - I couldn't see out of the eyes. 898 00:31:53,024 --> 00:31:54,528 - Heather, things got a little tense 899 00:31:54,561 --> 00:31:55,630 between you and Noella 900 00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:58,001 when it came time to choose rooms. 901 00:31:58,034 --> 00:32:00,071 Noella, you claimed you deserve the biggest room 902 00:32:00,105 --> 00:32:01,575 'cause your dad died. 903 00:32:01,608 --> 00:32:02,644 - Two masters, one below us. 904 00:32:02,677 --> 00:32:04,380 - So there's another one that looks just like this? 905 00:32:04,413 --> 00:32:06,985 - Yep. - I mean, my dad did just die. 906 00:32:07,019 --> 00:32:08,622 So it's not like I'm trying to pull rank 907 00:32:08,656 --> 00:32:11,562 or anything like that on it. 908 00:32:11,595 --> 00:32:14,166 - Who says that? - Do you feel like that's fair, 909 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,037 or were you just playing the card? 910 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:19,310 - Oh, I mean fair and playing the card. 911 00:32:19,343 --> 00:32:20,980 - I was like, 912 00:32:21,013 --> 00:32:22,951 "Let's offer her the room, because her dad just died." 913 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:25,556 But you don't even give anyone the opportunity to be nice, 914 00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:26,692 because you just right from the-- 915 00:32:26,725 --> 00:32:28,161 - Shannon never gets the big room. 916 00:32:28,194 --> 00:32:29,363 - Right from the bat you were just like, 917 00:32:29,396 --> 00:32:30,566 "I'm just taking this room." 918 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,704 - Keep in mind recovering off the heels of, like, a month 919 00:32:32,737 --> 00:32:36,578 where nobody was responding text messages to me. 920 00:32:36,612 --> 00:32:39,083 - The reason why maybe that was happening was 921 00:32:39,116 --> 00:32:41,420 because you were telling these lies, 922 00:32:41,454 --> 00:32:44,059 and it was making everyone feel a certain way. Even after-- 923 00:32:44,093 --> 00:32:45,195 - You were the only one 924 00:32:45,228 --> 00:32:46,632 that was obsessed with the lie thing. 925 00:32:46,665 --> 00:32:48,201 I had a genuine connection with Gina... 926 00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:49,170 - No, I wasn't. 927 00:32:49,203 --> 00:32:50,606 - Genuine connection with Emily. 928 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,009 Genuine connection with Shannon. 929 00:32:52,042 --> 00:32:53,612 - That's fine you have a connection, 930 00:32:53,646 --> 00:32:55,081 but they're still hearing you lie about me. 931 00:32:55,115 --> 00:32:56,384 - Like, you were just--like, you were--you were 932 00:32:56,417 --> 00:32:57,754 so controlling of the friend group 933 00:32:57,787 --> 00:32:59,390 that nobody could be nice to me. 934 00:32:59,423 --> 00:33:01,995 Nobody could have a human experience with me. 935 00:33:02,029 --> 00:33:03,398 - Yes, it's all me, Noella. We all agree. 936 00:33:03,431 --> 00:33:04,601 - I was trying to help you have a breakthrough. 937 00:33:04,634 --> 00:33:06,137 - Okay. All right. All right. 938 00:33:06,170 --> 00:33:10,713 ♪ ♪ 939 00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:20,800 - I was trying to help you have a breakthrough. - Okay. All right. All right. 940 00:33:20,833 --> 00:33:22,236 - Listen. - I am saying something. 941 00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:24,139 After the camera--I apologized. - I am saying something. 942 00:33:24,173 --> 00:33:26,043 - But after the cameras went down-- 943 00:33:26,077 --> 00:33:28,014 can I just button this for one second? 944 00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:29,283 After the cameras went down 945 00:33:29,316 --> 00:33:32,256 for the final time in Aspen, Noella came out to me and goes, 946 00:33:32,289 --> 00:33:34,761 "Hey, can we start over?" 947 00:33:34,794 --> 00:33:36,464 - Of course she wants to start over. 948 00:33:36,497 --> 00:33:38,769 - Now? Too late. - Okay. All right. Okay. 949 00:33:38,802 --> 00:33:41,240 Well, I do want to talk about one thing that was said 950 00:33:41,274 --> 00:33:44,514 that Noella was facing her own karma. 951 00:33:44,548 --> 00:33:45,783 - Right. 952 00:33:45,816 --> 00:33:47,687 - Which really kicked her when she was down. 953 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,089 - No, that's not fair. - But didn't she say it first? 954 00:33:49,123 --> 00:33:50,258 - She did. - She said it first. 955 00:33:50,292 --> 00:33:52,262 - I don't appreciate you calling me a liar. 956 00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:53,832 - This is your freaking karma, 957 00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:56,103 and your karma will solve it on its own. 958 00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:57,640 - My life's good. 959 00:33:57,674 --> 00:33:59,811 Your karma's already giving you what it needs. 960 00:33:59,844 --> 00:34:03,284 - This is--man, this is not good. 961 00:34:03,318 --> 00:34:05,790 - You sling something at me. I just slung it back. 962 00:34:05,823 --> 00:34:08,127 It's your karma. No, it's your karma. 963 00:34:08,161 --> 00:34:09,263 - That, no. At that--at that-- 964 00:34:09,296 --> 00:34:10,766 - I didn't say it out of the blue. 965 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,236 - It was literally being screamed at, 966 00:34:12,269 --> 00:34:14,808 and I'm ganged up on by all of these women. 967 00:34:14,841 --> 00:34:16,010 - No, you weren't. 968 00:34:16,043 --> 00:34:18,147 - And you were screaming at me that I'm a liar. 969 00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:20,151 You're screaming at me a liar. You're--I mean like everyone-- 970 00:34:20,185 --> 00:34:21,153 - Because you're lying, Noella. 971 00:34:21,187 --> 00:34:22,690 - So the karma thing, 972 00:34:22,724 --> 00:34:24,728 you feel you were responding to what she had said? 973 00:34:24,761 --> 00:34:27,165 - 100%. Listen, I've said it a million times tonight. 974 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:28,736 I will say it again. 975 00:34:28,769 --> 00:34:30,138 I feel horrible for everything you've gone through. 976 00:34:30,171 --> 00:34:32,276 I don't wish it upon anybody. 977 00:34:32,309 --> 00:34:34,113 You said to me, "It's your karma." 978 00:34:34,146 --> 00:34:36,284 I just threw it back at you. It wasn't any big moment. 979 00:34:36,317 --> 00:34:37,720 - Oh, you said it a couple more times. 980 00:34:37,754 --> 00:34:39,089 - But you also said, "My dad died too." 981 00:34:39,123 --> 00:34:40,292 - "My dad died." - That was earlier. 982 00:34:40,325 --> 00:34:41,828 - Why isn't anyone defending me? 983 00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:43,298 - That was earlier. - Why isn't this about me? 984 00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:44,834 And it just turned into, like... 985 00:34:44,868 --> 00:34:46,170 - Yeah, but those things-- 986 00:34:46,203 --> 00:34:47,139 - Holy sh--. This is vile sh--. 987 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:49,878 - I just want to say that, I mean, I understand 988 00:34:49,911 --> 00:34:52,550 where everyone's perspective is coming from. 989 00:34:52,583 --> 00:34:57,192 And on our second night after the bear scare fail there was-- 990 00:34:57,225 --> 00:34:59,129 - #BearScareFail. 991 00:34:59,163 --> 00:35:02,336 - Noella pulled me aside, and you broke down. 992 00:35:02,369 --> 00:35:04,173 And I--you know, and I thought about 993 00:35:04,206 --> 00:35:06,712 what she was going through, and it hit me that it had been 994 00:35:06,745 --> 00:35:10,185 less than a week from when her father passed away. 995 00:35:10,218 --> 00:35:11,521 - Four days. Four days. 996 00:35:11,555 --> 00:35:13,257 - And it's like, wow. Like, she is here. 997 00:35:13,291 --> 00:35:14,861 And it's like I felt for Noella, because I've been there 998 00:35:14,894 --> 00:35:16,865 before where you sit down at a table, 999 00:35:16,898 --> 00:35:18,569 and everybody comes at you. 1000 00:35:18,602 --> 00:35:20,806 When somebody dies, like, that's not a-- 1001 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,910 like, sh-- happens. Or I think-- 1002 00:35:22,944 --> 00:35:24,914 I think you might have said something like, "Sh-- happens." 1003 00:35:24,948 --> 00:35:26,852 - It's not great. - Her father died. 1004 00:35:26,885 --> 00:35:28,354 - Okay. - Just remember that. 1005 00:35:28,388 --> 00:35:29,824 - Sh-- happens to everybody. 1006 00:35:29,858 --> 00:35:31,762 - This is a death. 1007 00:35:31,795 --> 00:35:34,768 - I mean, Noella, this is really interesting. 1008 00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:38,542 I mean, we saw you deal with your dad's passing. 1009 00:35:38,575 --> 00:35:41,213 Your dad was a famous weatherman... 1010 00:35:41,247 --> 00:35:42,817 - He was a big deal. - In LA. 1011 00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:43,952 - Yeah, he was-- - NBC, baby. 1012 00:35:43,986 --> 00:35:46,892 - When I saw his picture, I was like, "Wow, I know him." 1013 00:35:46,925 --> 00:35:49,330 - He carried an Olympic torch. He won an Emmy. 1014 00:35:49,363 --> 00:35:50,866 I mean, it was-- - And were you--you were 1015 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:53,906 pretty much estranged most of your life? 1016 00:35:53,939 --> 00:35:55,876 - I was his one and only child, 1017 00:35:55,910 --> 00:36:01,253 and it juts--his career took off right when I was born. 1018 00:36:01,287 --> 00:36:02,422 And he moved down to Los Angeles. 1019 00:36:02,456 --> 00:36:03,926 My mother just passed law school. 1020 00:36:03,959 --> 00:36:06,263 She started her practice in Palm Springs, 1021 00:36:06,297 --> 00:36:09,938 and it was really a reflection of their relationship I feel. 1022 00:36:09,971 --> 00:36:11,942 You know, we'd see each other occasionally, 1023 00:36:11,975 --> 00:36:14,781 but it was--it was a very strained relationship. 1024 00:36:14,814 --> 00:36:18,254 And, yeah, I really--I hate to seem vain on this one. 1025 00:36:18,287 --> 00:36:20,626 But it wasn't until I signed with Elite 1026 00:36:20,659 --> 00:36:25,235 when I was 17 and developed my book in Southeast Asia 1027 00:36:25,268 --> 00:36:26,470 and I started to mail him. 1028 00:36:26,505 --> 00:36:28,274 Like, I would mail him report cards 1029 00:36:28,307 --> 00:36:30,412 and things like that during my education, 1030 00:36:30,445 --> 00:36:33,418 and they would come back unopened. 1031 00:36:33,451 --> 00:36:37,894 And it's--you know, how sometimes dads aren't great 1032 00:36:37,927 --> 00:36:39,296 unless you do what they do? 1033 00:36:39,329 --> 00:36:40,866 Like, I learned how to play golf primarily 1034 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,302 to have a relationship with my father. 1035 00:36:42,335 --> 00:36:43,672 - That's very true, because my dad 1036 00:36:43,706 --> 00:36:45,375 only came to one thing that I did in high school. 1037 00:36:45,408 --> 00:36:47,279 And it was when I played fast-pitch, 1038 00:36:47,312 --> 00:36:49,651 because he liked baseball. - Wow. 1039 00:36:49,684 --> 00:36:51,420 - So it was--when I was in his industry, 1040 00:36:51,454 --> 00:36:54,293 when I was in his wheelhouse, then he really was like, 1041 00:36:54,326 --> 00:36:55,930 - He responded. - "Yeah." 1042 00:36:55,963 --> 00:36:58,301 And then we would have these great conversations. 1043 00:36:58,334 --> 00:37:00,906 And the craziest thing, the very last conversation 1044 00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:04,313 that I had with him it was, like, first week of September. 1045 00:37:04,346 --> 00:37:06,317 And I was writing him, you know, 1046 00:37:06,350 --> 00:37:08,287 just on what this experience was. 1047 00:37:08,321 --> 00:37:11,360 And he gave me such amazing advice 1048 00:37:11,393 --> 00:37:14,934 about being Black in the industry at NBC. 1049 00:37:14,968 --> 00:37:17,305 Like, all these weird parallels were going on 1050 00:37:17,339 --> 00:37:19,410 and being the first and how to carry that mantle. 1051 00:37:19,443 --> 00:37:21,982 And it just--in many ways, he was so proud of me 1052 00:37:22,015 --> 00:37:23,952 being in the show and representing it. 1053 00:37:23,986 --> 00:37:26,023 - That's nice. - It was. 1054 00:37:26,056 --> 00:37:27,325 - I'll have to say, Noella, 1055 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:29,263 you know, despite our differences, 1056 00:37:29,296 --> 00:37:31,333 my heart broke for you when your father passed. 1057 00:37:31,367 --> 00:37:33,438 - Yeah. - I relate deeply to that. 1058 00:37:33,471 --> 00:37:36,343 'Cause my father was a very big part of my life, 1059 00:37:36,377 --> 00:37:37,747 and I'm sorry you had to go through that. 1060 00:37:37,780 --> 00:37:39,450 - Thank you. - It really--I just wanted, 1061 00:37:39,483 --> 00:37:41,487 like, hug you and protect you. 1062 00:37:41,521 --> 00:37:43,692 - You were amazing, the flowers were gorgeous, 1063 00:37:43,725 --> 00:37:47,533 and it was really nice to hear at your event-- 1064 00:37:47,567 --> 00:37:49,671 I didn't know the relationship with your father 1065 00:37:49,704 --> 00:37:52,042 and just why it inspired you to be a doctor. 1066 00:37:52,075 --> 00:37:53,912 And it's those stories that really-- 1067 00:37:53,946 --> 00:37:55,448 - That was definitely the most interesting part. 1068 00:37:55,482 --> 00:37:56,885 - She took the MCATs the day after he passed away. 1069 00:37:56,918 --> 00:37:57,887 - Crazy. - I had to take the MCATs-- 1070 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,356 - That's just crazy. 1071 00:37:59,389 --> 00:38:01,494 - Well, you all came together for that song, 1072 00:38:01,528 --> 00:38:03,999 which was actually awesome. 1073 00:38:04,032 --> 00:38:05,335 - It was amazing. - So fun. 1074 00:38:05,368 --> 00:38:06,505 - That was so fun. 1075 00:38:06,538 --> 00:38:09,511 all: ♪ I do whatever I want ♪ 1076 00:38:09,544 --> 00:38:10,946 ♪ Whatever I want ♪ 1077 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:16,023 ♪ And baby I want you ♪ 1078 00:38:16,056 --> 00:38:20,331 ♪ I want you ♪ 1079 00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:23,906 - I mean, what did Richard Marx think when he heard the song? 1080 00:38:23,939 --> 00:38:24,974 - He loved it. 1081 00:38:25,008 --> 00:38:26,076 - Really? - No, he really did. 1082 00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:27,513 He and Daisy Fuentes wrote the song, 1083 00:38:27,547 --> 00:38:30,519 and I was so excited that they let us use it. 1084 00:38:30,553 --> 00:38:32,557 - It's great. It was really sweet. 1085 00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:34,059 - I was so embarrassed. 1086 00:38:34,092 --> 00:38:35,763 I didn't want, like, anything to do it. 1087 00:38:35,796 --> 00:38:37,065 - You were so good. 1088 00:38:37,098 --> 00:38:38,501 - And then I leaned into it hard so hard. 1089 00:38:38,535 --> 00:38:40,038 I was so about it. 1090 00:38:40,071 --> 00:38:41,541 - I thought it was gonna be super cheesy. 1091 00:38:41,575 --> 00:38:43,044 And it was so good. 1092 00:38:43,077 --> 00:38:44,948 - It was, but I think we owned the cheesiness. 1093 00:38:44,981 --> 00:38:46,417 - Yeah, I think so too. 1094 00:38:46,450 --> 00:38:48,454 - You looked just like Posh Spice. 1095 00:38:48,487 --> 00:38:51,026 - Oh, thank you. - I was really blown away. 1096 00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:51,995 - Yeah, you did. 1097 00:38:52,028 --> 00:38:53,999 - Now, when they said you were Jimi Hendrix, 1098 00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:56,972 I thought you were Prince. - I thought she was Prince too. 1099 00:38:57,005 --> 00:39:00,546 - And you looked, by the way, just like--I was like, "Wow." 1100 00:39:00,579 --> 00:39:02,449 - I was like, "Just go with Prince." 1101 00:39:02,482 --> 00:39:05,421 - Exactly. Exactly. But a great Hendrix also. 1102 00:39:05,455 --> 00:39:06,558 - Thank you. - All right. 1103 00:39:06,591 --> 00:39:08,427 We're gonna leave it there. 1104 00:39:08,461 --> 00:39:10,599 We're gonna be right back to wrap things up after this. 1105 00:39:19,483 --> 00:39:22,122 [upbeat music] ♪ ♪ 1106 00:39:22,155 --> 00:39:24,827 - Before we wrap up the season 16 reunion, 1107 00:39:24,861 --> 00:39:26,598 I want to end on a super-positive note. 1108 00:39:26,631 --> 00:39:28,434 I would love to go around 1109 00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,573 and have each of you say one positive thing 1110 00:39:30,606 --> 00:39:33,612 about someone else in the group. 1111 00:39:33,645 --> 00:39:35,448 Who wants to start? - I could start. 1112 00:39:35,481 --> 00:39:37,587 - Okay. - I didn't know Heather at all, 1113 00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:40,024 and we'd never even run in the same circles. 1114 00:39:40,058 --> 00:39:42,162 It was so positive to be with someone 1115 00:39:42,195 --> 00:39:46,036 who really put the effort into getting to know me 1116 00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:49,510 and my husband and my children, and I really appreciate that, 1117 00:39:49,544 --> 00:39:51,548 because I didn't really have that before. 1118 00:39:51,581 --> 00:39:53,017 And it was so nice for someone 1119 00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:57,492 to just take such a true interest in my life. 1120 00:39:57,526 --> 00:39:59,530 So I appreciate that about you. 1121 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,500 - Thank you. - That's nice. Okay. 1122 00:40:01,534 --> 00:40:03,605 Heather, why don't you go next? 1123 00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,511 - I really thank everyone for kind of welcoming me back. 1124 00:40:06,544 --> 00:40:08,815 It's been interesting. And the scenes with my kids 1125 00:40:08,849 --> 00:40:10,653 were so important to me that I honestly, 1126 00:40:10,686 --> 00:40:12,556 even with the bullsh-- stuff that happens, 1127 00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:14,627 I would've done it all over again. 1128 00:40:14,661 --> 00:40:17,533 And, Noella, if we are to meet again, 1129 00:40:17,566 --> 00:40:19,436 I hope that maybe you'll get a chance 1130 00:40:19,469 --> 00:40:23,444 to actually not only know me but let me get to know you. 1131 00:40:23,477 --> 00:40:25,649 - I would love that. I welcome that. 1132 00:40:25,683 --> 00:40:29,156 - All right. Noella, you want to go next? 1133 00:40:29,189 --> 00:40:34,199 - Jen, honestly, there were a lot of moments. 1134 00:40:34,232 --> 00:40:35,468 It's almost like a sisterhood, 1135 00:40:35,501 --> 00:40:38,174 but we were like the sisters that fought the most. 1136 00:40:38,207 --> 00:40:40,579 But I genuinely have a lot of respect for you 1137 00:40:40,613 --> 00:40:44,453 knowing the chronic pain that you're constantly in, 1138 00:40:44,486 --> 00:40:47,225 and just, like, understanding on how strong 1139 00:40:47,258 --> 00:40:51,133 you must be to be doing all the things that you do 1140 00:40:51,166 --> 00:40:53,204 being the breadwinner for your family. 1141 00:40:53,237 --> 00:40:55,576 There is a lot of--a lot of hardships in your life, 1142 00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:56,911 and you would never tell. 1143 00:40:56,945 --> 00:40:59,651 Because you seem so strong and in control. 1144 00:40:59,684 --> 00:41:01,153 And I really do respect that. 1145 00:41:01,186 --> 00:41:03,625 - I really appreciate that. Thank you, Noella. 1146 00:41:03,659 --> 00:41:06,698 I mean, if drama was a drug, you would be a pharmacy. 1147 00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:08,568 And... [laughter] 1148 00:41:08,602 --> 00:41:10,539 And while I don't agree with a lot of it, 1149 00:41:10,572 --> 00:41:13,210 I could still appreciate your enthusiasm. 1150 00:41:13,244 --> 00:41:15,114 - I hope it's done. I'm done with it. 1151 00:41:15,148 --> 00:41:16,885 No more drama. Good drama. 1152 00:41:16,918 --> 00:41:18,555 - That's nice. - Yes, Shannon. 1153 00:41:18,588 --> 00:41:20,893 - I will say something nice about Gina. 1154 00:41:20,926 --> 00:41:23,497 I want to say that I am very, very proud of you. 1155 00:41:23,532 --> 00:41:26,270 From the girl that I met four years ago 1156 00:41:26,303 --> 00:41:28,775 to who you are today to withstand 1157 00:41:28,809 --> 00:41:30,713 all that you did with your marriage, 1158 00:41:30,746 --> 00:41:34,252 to see you and your lovely boyfriend 1159 00:41:34,286 --> 00:41:37,526 literally have such a amazingly clean 1160 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,599 and orderly household with six children, it's admirable. 1161 00:41:40,632 --> 00:41:42,302 - Thank you. Thank you for that. 1162 00:41:42,335 --> 00:41:46,243 - And I'm very, very excited for your new business venture 1163 00:41:46,276 --> 00:41:48,114 and wish you nothing but the best. 1164 00:41:48,147 --> 00:41:49,650 - I'm gonna send it right back to you. 1165 00:41:49,684 --> 00:41:53,190 I think honestly, genuinely the same thing from knowing you. 1166 00:41:53,224 --> 00:41:56,965 I think you're an incredibly resilient woman 1167 00:41:56,998 --> 00:42:00,238 who has gone through a hell of a lot, 1168 00:42:00,271 --> 00:42:01,975 you know, as a grown woman 1169 00:42:02,008 --> 00:42:06,216 and had to completely redesign her entire life. 1170 00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:09,724 And I also--I swear, I've never met somebody with the ability 1171 00:42:09,757 --> 00:42:14,801 to push my buttons so much alive, and it is impressive. 1172 00:42:14,834 --> 00:42:16,270 - I'll take that as a plus. 1173 00:42:16,303 --> 00:42:17,640 - I adore you, though. 1174 00:42:17,673 --> 00:42:19,276 - No one said anything about Emily. May I? 1175 00:42:19,309 --> 00:42:20,546 - Yes. 1176 00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:22,282 - I think you are an incredible mom. 1177 00:42:22,315 --> 00:42:25,188 It's really beautiful to watch. Just amazing. 1178 00:42:25,221 --> 00:42:26,624 - A step-mama. 1179 00:42:26,658 --> 00:42:28,260 - You're very good at articulating things too. 1180 00:42:28,294 --> 00:42:30,766 I think that it's impressive, your articulation. 1181 00:42:30,799 --> 00:42:34,239 - Well, we've reached the end of another great season. 1182 00:42:34,272 --> 00:42:37,011 And what better way to bid farewell to Orange County's 1183 00:42:37,045 --> 00:42:42,656 sweet 16 than with a champagne pineapple toast? 1184 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:45,027 Heather, I think you should send us out on a toast. 1185 00:42:45,061 --> 00:42:46,230 I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, 1186 00:42:46,263 --> 00:42:50,271 but I think Jen knows one that begins to ladies' underwear. 1187 00:42:50,304 --> 00:42:51,641 But I would love. 1188 00:42:51,674 --> 00:42:53,277 - I'm not wearing any, but it's okay. 1189 00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:54,146 - Wow. These are very lovely. 1190 00:42:54,179 --> 00:42:56,250 - Okay. So what an incredible season, 1191 00:42:56,283 --> 00:42:57,252 but we're gonna do a pineapple toast. 1192 00:42:57,285 --> 00:43:01,995 So that is stand tall, wear a crown, be sweet. 1193 00:43:02,028 --> 00:43:03,598 - I love that. 1194 00:43:03,632 --> 00:43:04,634 - Cheers. - Cheers. 1195 00:43:04,667 --> 00:43:05,803 - Cheers. - Sweet 16. 1196 00:43:05,836 --> 00:43:07,305 - 16. 1197 00:43:07,338 --> 00:43:11,046 all: Whoo! 1198 00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:12,348 - This is a little aggressive. 1199 00:43:12,382 --> 00:43:16,356 - The décor is not your doing, 1200 00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:19,062 - Oh, I could do this all day. - Yay. 1201 00:43:19,095 --> 00:43:20,264 - Thanks, ladies. - Whoo.