When Zach and I finally sat down,
we were really in very different camps
about what kind of a deal could do go on.
He's looking for a situation that he can control.
Like this... You're not dictating the terms here.
You know? You've dictated too much for too long.
Zach came in real hot, you know.
He didn't come in to negotiate, you know.
He came in to demand.
Tori and me as adults can put ourselves in a toxic situation like that.
It's unhealthy.
We'd go from seeing them almost daily, you know, to completely cut off.
Like, "You're not gonna see the kids,
we're not gonna bring them to the farm. We're not gonna talk to you."
So I feel sad. I feel confused.
What we view as Roloff farms
and the family properties, or property,
is no more.
It's just sad.
A few weeks ago, Zach announced
that he wanted to make, take a stab at buying the farm.
Caryn, Tori, Zach, and I,
we had this meeting and it didn't go real good.
Oh, here they come.
Well, it feels like a lifetime since we've seen them.
[Matt] I think what they wanted was me to basically give it to them,
you know, at a cutthroat price,
and then still have me do all the work.
[Zach] Hey, Jackson, this way.
[Tori] Being in that room for that discussion, it wasn't cool.
I don't want to see anyone talk to my husband that way again ever.
Oh, God, I want to like run away.
[Zach] Things are a bit tense,
but we're over here today because we want to tell them some big news.
[Caryn] Oh, dear.
You coming?
-[Zach] Hey. -[Tori] Hey.
-[Caryn] Hey. -[Tori] Hi.
I said to my dad, "What is it worth to have your grandkids on this property?"
Yes, I was talking financially but also value as a grandparent
to have the next generation grow up on the farm.
Do you want to make money off your own family?
Or is it like do you want this legacy that you've preached about for 10 years?
This is what Tori said. "He's a business man, like what do you expect?"
I expected him to be a grandpa.
Hi, Lilah.
[laughs]
When Zach said in the meeting what is it, quote unquote, "What is it worth to see
the grandkids running around on the farm?"
I couldn't wrap my head around what that meant.
I mean how do negotiate with your own grandkids?
[Zach] Why'd you get these?
Something different. Something fun. We haven't had cows.
[Zach] Since the deal with my dad didn't work out,
we decided to look at other places to live.
We found a property that we really like.
So we're over here today to tell my dad and Caryn that we're moving.
Wait, hold on. Go up to them and tell them, okay?
Can you go up to them?
I don't know how he'll take the news.
But ultimately I have to do what's best for my family.
[Jackson]
[Matt] What?
-You're moving to Battle Ground? -[Jackson]
Well, they had Jackson, you know, be the one
to tell us that they were moving.
-Um. [laughs] -It was weird.
I mean, who the [bleep] does that?
I think that the negotiations for buying the farm
accelerated, you know, other options that they were looking at.
Um, so, it didn't surprise me a whole lot.
It seemed to fit sort of their "they can't do this so we're gonna go do that."
So you like the way you picked and all that?
Yeah, new house. 2018.
-Two acres. Some forest with a creek in the back. -Nice.
I thought my dad's reaction to the news was very emotionless.
It's clearly a big deal that we're moving away.
For the farm, for him, for his grandkids not to be near him.
Like you didn't even raise an eyebrow, you know?
That's interesting.
That just speaks to the...
Just everything that's going on.
Um, all right, we're gonna head out.
Okay, well, thanks, guys, for coming and bringing these kids by.
-[Jackson babbles] -Yeah.
Big change is good.
[Zach] Yeah.
[Caryn] We don't know where we're at,
we don't know how to extend the olive branch
because they're the ones that left the relationship.
We're still here, we haven't gone anywhere, we want to be here.
We want the relationship, but they have to want it too.
So that's kind of where we're at.
And, Zach, do you want me to give him a ride back
-so you don't have to walk that far? -[Tori] Nah, he's good.
-[Zach] We can walk. Yeah, we'll walk. -[Tori] We're good.
[Tori] When it comes to Caryn and Matt, yes, it's awkward.
But Matt is family, and that's...
Matt is family.
Caryl tells other people that she's waiting for our olive branch,
and that olive branch...
The dove took it to another island, I don't know.
I'm a huge believe in like reconciliation,
and in the future I hope that we all figure our ish out,
and like we can move on.
But right now, I just don't have the energy for it right now.
And so I don't have the energy for this relationship at this time.
[Caryn] Interesting.
[Zach] Got that over with.
-[Tori] This is why we're moving. -[Zach] Yeah.
It's full-time, wow.
It is, yeah.
[Chris grunts]
[Amy] So what's going on in your world?
We're moving to Battle Ground.
-[Tori] Mmm-hmm. -You guys are really moving
-all the way out to Battle Ground? -Yeah, is that bad?
-[Amy] We're gonna miss you. -[Chris] Why?
Why would you wanna move so far away from us?
The farm didn't work out, we weren't gonna sit here and mope about it.
We're not playing that game.
[Tori] Plan B, what are we doing next?
And this was our Plan B, so...
[Amy] I was surprised and kind of a little sad suddenly
because, wait a minute, what?
You're not just 10 or 15 minutes way?
You're gonna be more than an hour?
Well, I'm really sorry that didn't work out
-and there's bad blood there now. -Yeah.
-[Tori] Kind of glad. -[Chris] Are you?
[Tori] We can just move on now.
We can move on, we can do our own thing, we can make our own plans.
[Chris] I didn't know of any hard feelings between Matt and Zach.
But it's just very unfortunate
that not only did it not work out,
but that it caused really hard feelings.
It was and is a rollercoaster ride.
I think it's just really dealing with Matt's personality.
It's hard, I think there's definitely a mistrust that comes in
because he's a negotiator, he's a salesperson.
And so, I just find it kind of sad.
It's a business transaction but he's your son.
That's a big move, I hope it ends up being a...
-It's a better move for you. -Yeah.
We hope that too.
[Zach] How we looking do you think? What's your estimate?
[mover] Probably hoping to roll out here around 1:00?
Roll out of here at 1:00? Okay, yeah, interesting. Okay, cool.
Cool, cool.
It's moving day today, we're pretty busy here.
Um, got the movers in and we're moving out.
Murph, get out of here.
Right now everything we haven't packed,
they're gonna pack.
So yeah, we're at like crunch time.
If we wanted to be like picky about things,
that was... We should've been doing that six months ago.
Wow.
-Seeing all your junk in the... packed up. -That's all your junk.
That's all your kitchen stuff.
-I said our junk. -Oh [chuckles].
We're about to leave this house, um...
Yeah, we made a lot of good memories.
Brought Lilah home at this house.
Oh, my goodness!
She's so cute.
We had multiple birthday parties at this house.
[all cheering]
-Just a lot of fun memories. -Friends.
-[Zach] Great neighbors. -[Tori] Mmm-hmm.
Yeah, it served us well, but it's time to move on to new adventures.
Say, "Do you got all my stuff?"
[Jackson]
[Tori laughs]
[Chris] Yoo-hoo.
-Hey, Lilah. -Hey.
-[Lilah screams] -Aww.
We've been in this house a little bit under two weeks.
It's been crazy unpacking, getting organized,
but that's this whole new beginning.
Umm, feels really good, yeah.
-I think, um... I feel pretty good about it. -I'm stoked about it.
-Yeah. -Yeah.
-Wow, all right, well, can we get a tour? -[Zach] Yeah.
Let's do it. Hey, Mom.
Let's show Mimi and Chris the house.
We still have quite a few things to get done,
but I'm excited to show my mom and Chris the house.
[Jackson]
-[Amy] Wow, you got a big bedroom. -This is big.
-I really love the open feel of the house. -[Chris] Mmm.
-Mmm-hmm. -I think Jackson will have fun,
I don't know, running all over,
you know, the house and having to climb up and down stairs.
[Jackson]
-[Tori] I'm a chicken. -Oh, are you the chicken?
Yeah!
Zach and Jackson, I think, are very excited about the outdoors
and, you know, the property and everything.
It's gonna be interesting, you know, to see how they all do.
They seem very excited.
[Chris] So you're already parking your unused cars
-back in the trees like the locals. -[Zach laughs]
Yeah, we're excited for, you know, our kids to grow up here.
The way we got here was not good.
But, yes, now that we're here, and it's great. Yeah. It's great.
[Amy] It's definitely an interesting piece of property.
[Zach] I love it.
-... go first. -Oh, Jackson, look at the new white chickens.
With everything going on, I made the decision not to work pumpkin season.
-[Matt] Hey. -Hey.
How's Lilah Ray?
Say "Hi, Grandpa."
You guys wanna go, we'll meet you up there
-where-- -[Zach] Yeah, we're gonna move that way, yeah.
Going to the farm is just like whatever for me. Like it's...
Yeah, Jackson loves the farm and...
Just see what's going on.
[squeals] Hey, silly!
I was really glad they showed up.
It was very nice to see little Jackson smiling.
-Mmm-hmm. -We don't take those moments for granted anymore.
-So how's the new farm going? -Good, yeah.
-[Matt] Good. Yeah. -Love it. Yeah.
-Yeah, the house is nice. It looks nice in the picture. -[Zach]Yeah.
-[Caryn] Hey, how are you? -Hey, good.
[Caryn] Lilah Ray!
I just didn't want to be there, like at all.
I just, I just have no connection to any of it anymore,
and I just, I didn't want to be there.
-[indistinct talking on radio] -Twinning with her brother.
[Tori] Yeah.
We don't see Zach and Tori at all during all of pumpkin season,
they kind of just ghosted the whole thing.
And then they do show up
and, you know, we try to give them a little bit of our attention,
um, but they [clear throat], you know, they were shut down,
and if you don't want to be there, you know, then don't come to it.
It's all... you know, the only thing I can think to say.
Um, but yeah, we might find Jackson and then head out.
[Matt] Yeah.
You know, I don't know if the relationship's gonna be cold for awhile,
I'm gonna respect whatever time they need
to feel in their hearts that they're ready to, you know, forgive me
for, you know, being an ass or, you know, whatever.
And basically that's, you know, that's just something that
you wait, you know, for.
All right, well, God, it was good to see you.
Yeah, we'll go, we're gonna go find Jackson.
You know the temperature's still pretty high between my dad and me and Caryn.
It'd be great for my dad to have a better relationship with Jackson and Lilah,
but we're gonna live far away now.
Like, my dad's gonna have to have more effort
if he wants to keep a relationship with his grandkids.
[woman] Coming up...
Tori and me have a big announcement.
[Jackson]
[Amy on phone laughs]
[man] And later...
Here we go, my friend.
I'm really, really sad that none of the kids will be living there,
um, but it's time to move on.
[phone ringing]
Ah, Mimi's calling.
[Tori] Can you talk to Mimi?
You wanna talk to Mimi?
[Amy on phone] Say hi, how's it going?
Hi.
[Amy] Jackson, did you get a haircut?
-[Zach] Yeah, he got one. -[Amy] Yeah?
[Amy laughs] I know.
[Zach] Tori and me have a big announcement.
Tori's pregnant.
-We are expecting our third baby. -Yay!
The baby's due on May 18th.
Amy watched our kids while we went to our first doctor's appointment,
and we told her that we were going to finish something up on our house.
We lied.
Oh, my God.
They whipped out, you know, the ultrasound photos
and it's like, "What?"
Like, "Wait a minute, what?"
I'm just really excited for them.
We're not going to find out the gender though.
[Amy] I know, that's kind of fun.
[Tori] We won't know if baby's boy or girl until delivery.
But my doctor's pretty confident that this baby has dwarfism
just because of the measurements
and the joke has just been that I'm reaching top shelf for the rest of my life.
-Okay, see you later, bye-bye. -[Amy] Okay.
Bye.
I'm heading over to Zach and Tori's house to drop off the lawnmower.
I'm excited to see their house
but, you know, I would say I'm a little curious to see how this is gonna go.
Very, very cool back in here.
Reminds me of the farm where you
gotta come down a long driveway.
Ah, you know the relationship's still tense and it's not like what it was.
I've been upset with my dad before, just not liking how my dad does something.
You know, but now, it's like I'm just at this age now where it's like, "No."
I'm not just going to turn around again,
like it's, it's not going to be the same.
But yeah, the property goes back that way.
[Matt] How far does it go that way?
[Zach] Just there. Just the fence there.
So that's the chicken coop right there.
So do the kids like it here?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Now that, um, Lilah can walk.
She loves it.
Tori's pregnant so I can't 'til she gets--
-Yeah, congratulations on that. -Yeah.
When we found out we were pregnant, we sent my dad a text.
But, um, the fact that my dad and me are in this thing,
um, I don't think that affected how we told him necessarily.
This new baby's May 18th.
Yeah, so it's right around Mother's Day, your birthday.
There's a lot happening in May.
I'm very excited that Zach and Tori are pregnant again.
I'm very excited for that.
I just hope that we can, you know, work out our differences
so that, uh, we can all come together when this baby's born in the spring.
All right, okay, good. I'm proud of you, Zach. I love you.
All right. Thank you for, you know, just being your own man.
Doing... Even though I know you're kind of mad at me,
but I think you... This is a good exercise.
-Yeah, no, it's been good to like kind of get out. -[Matt] Yeah.
I just wish it wasn't under such... circumstances,
-but it has felt good. -[Matt] Yep.
Well, we're not the first father son to have a little run in, you know?
[Zach] Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of... That's sort of the rite of passage, right?
-Yeah. -[Matt] Okay, well, take it easy
-and take care of the family. -All right, will do.
I know my dad thinks he's, you know, making an effort,
but our relationship isn't gonna get better overnight.
He kind brought up the issue but it doesn't like fix anything.
That's [bleep] about it.
Yeah, he's like, "That's not the first time fathers and sons have gotten into it."
Like, we're into it because of what you did.
You're the responsible one.
Yeah, so yeah, that comment, it's just... is...
It's just weird.
[sighing and blows raspberry]
Where we going?
To the hospital. You're right. Hi-five, bud.
You're in a good mood.
Love it.
We've noticed from like day one with Jackson since he started walking
that he's got some pretty significant bowing of his legs.
All right, say "bye-bye."
Oh, that's good.
[Tori] Jackson has leg surgery today.
The surgery involves putting screws and plates into his growth plates
to hopefully slow down growth.
And his legs will still be bowed, however over time
as he grows, they will be straightened out.
-[Zach] Hey, where we at? -At the hospital.
[Zach] Yeah.
Jackson is in very good spirits which is encouraging,
but he's four years old having to have, you know, major leg surgery.
It's gonna be painful, it's gonna be tough thing
to grasp for him and understand why.
-[Tori] Goodbye. -[Zach] Bye-bye.
[Tori] I was definitely worried.
Like, your kid's unconscious somewhere in the hospital
getting a screw screwed into his bone, like...
-I was worried. -[Zach] Yeah.
-How you doing? Good? -I'm ready to see him.
Yeah.
It was the longest two hours I've ever had in my life.
Jackson, I think we're gonna practice some walking, okay?
[Zach] It's the day after Jackson's surgery
and he's got to start taking steps with his walker.
He's been through a lot the last day, but we gotta get him up.
We gotta get him taking a few steps.
You know, to get going again.
Hold onto this, remember.
Good job, Jackson.
Jackson!
Do you want to keep going?
Got it?
Are you all done?
-Jackson! Good! -[Zach] That was good!
-Come on, dude! -Good job, bud!
It was exciting seeing Jackson take his first steps.
You know, he's going to have a long road to recovery,
but we're proud that he's pushing himself to start walking.
If you do that like every half hour, every hour,
you'll be up and walking and running and ruling this house.
[Tori] Yes, you will.
[woman] Coming up...
[Chris] We hear that he's getting ready to put it on the market.
Have you guys heard any of the details?
No?
[Zach] My dad sent the information out about selling the farm.
It's whatever.
You made your bed, go be alone on it now.
Like don't bother us. We're moving on.
Have you guys been back to the farm at all?
-[Zach] I saw the pavement and the fence. -[Amy] Okay, yeah.
-[Lilah shouts] -We hear that he's getting ready to put it on the market.
Have you guys heard any of the details?
No?
[Zach] My dad sent the information out
about selling the farm through a text.
It's just... It's whatever.
I'm not the only family member that thinks this way.
Not one family member replied to the text.
No one cares anymore.
It's just whatever, Dad. Like...
You've made your bed, go be alone on it now.
Like don't bother us, we're moving on.
You know, you've clearly said you don't want us to be part of it.
So, you know, go do your thing.
I think once that for sale sign goes up on the farm house,
I think that'll be closure for everybody.
-Can't wait. -You know?
I can't wait.
I think this whole farm negotiation took a toll
on Zach and at this point,
you know, he's done with the farm and moving on with his life.
Here we go, my friend.
Okay.
This is one of the toughest decisions of my life,
but it's time now to, um, you know, let go and...
sell the northside of the farm.
-[Sven] How's that? -[Matt] Yep, good.
[grunts] Perfect. Thank you.
It'll be the big house, um, uh, the castle, the western town,
a couple of really nice barns, um,
and the 16 acres.
I have wonderful memories of raising the family in that house,
but I learned a long time ago
that you... can't get stuck in the past.
You have to keep moving forward in life.
I'm really, really sad that none of the kids will be living there.
Um, but it's time to move on.
What's happening, babe?
Hey, Tori's water broke this time, for real.
This time... [laughs] This time, for real. My water broke, a lot.
-It is four-- -Like, it's silly--
-Oh, sorry. You talk. -No, go. No, go. [laughs]
-This isn't about me. -It's not about you.
No, when the first time the water broke,
to this time, now,
it's silly that we thought the water broke
-the first time. -It's so silly.
It's so silly.
But water broke four-- It-- We-- Broke at, like, 2:30 a.m.
It's 4:15 right now. We're driving to the hospital.
Amy woke up instantly. Amazing.
-Yeah, once again. -So thankful for her.
Amy Roloff rallied.
Yeah. But we are having a baby. It won't be in May.
Won't be a May baby.
It'll be April 30.
4:15 a.m...
Yeah.
I'm pretty ready to get this kid out of me.
-[laughs] -[Zach] All right.
We just got to the hospital, and we're super excited
to find out if the baby's a boy or girl.
-[monitor beeping] -[doctor speaking]
-[exclaims] -[doctor speaking]
[nurse speaking]
[gasps]
[Zach] What is-- What does-- What does "breech" mean?
-[nurse] Okay, ready? -[Zach] Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm ready.
[doctor] All right, Zach. What is it?
-[exclaims emotionally] -[Zach] It's a boy!
-[doctor laughs] -[Zach laughing] It's a boy! It's a boy.
-[mouths] Babe... -[Zach] Yeah.
[nurse] Yeah, gotta share the Legos.
-[Zach] Look at that! -Oh, my gosh.
We were pretty stoked
-to find out it's a boy. -Yeah, we were pretty stoked to.
-We were trying to be chill, but, like-- -We were trying to be chill.
I started crying.
-You yelled. -Yeah.
You were pretty stoked.
[uplifting music playing]
[mellow piano music playing]
He's just so cute.
This has been him. He's so chill.
[Zach] Yeah.
Yeah, Josiah's a little person.
Has achondroplasia, like his siblings.
And, um, yeah. Now there's four of us.
-My little dwarf tribe. -[chuckles]
Got my little...
-Yeah, my tribe. -My posse.
My army. My posse.
[Zach] Josiah Luke Roloff.
-[Zach] All right. -[Amy] Oh!
Who is here?
[Zach] Where's Lilah?
[Jackson] Lilah's asleep.
-[Lilah] Mama! -[Jackson yelling]
[Zach] It's time for Jackson and Lilah to meet the new baby.
Yeah. I'm definitely nervous.
-[Zach] Yeah. -I'm like, expecting the worst.
-Yeah. -But hoping for the best.
Yes.
Do you know if it's a boy or girl?
[Tori] What do you think?
-[Jackson speaking] -[Tori gasps]
-[Zach speaking] -[Tori] You're right!
[exclaims] I'm right!
[Lilah exclaims]
[Zach chuckles]
-We told them that it was a brother... -[laughs]
And he was excited.
[Tori] Look at-- She is like...
-[Zach] Yeah. She is. -[Tori]...focused.
[Zach] We thought he was gonna lash out, or everyone's gonna start crying.
-But it ended up being fantastic. -Mmm-hmm.
-[softly] Oh... -He might cry if he gets--
You might have to just help him with the binky.
-Yeah. Oh, my gosh. -[Lilah exclaiming]
[gasps softly] Yeah, the baby.
Oh, my gosh. He-- He's a cute little person baby.
All these kids have been cute, but I don't know. Just...
Maybe it's been a while since seeing a new baby.
You know, coming right from the hospital, but...
Josiah's a cute little baby.
Josiah, you're gonna learn, this dude's pretty cool.
Pretty out of it. And I was trying really hard to, like, be present and be there.
-Yeah. -But I was really tired, and I also, like,
had just-- Had major surgery.
But-- But I was just so happy and so thank--
-I'm, like, crying right now. -I know.
-I just was so thankful for it. -You-- No, Tori was so happy.
-It was just such a, like, beautiful... thing. -[faint squealing]
Yeah.
[Tori] Thank you guys for being such a good brother and sister.
[upbeat music playing]
[Jackson speaking]
My dad's here.
-Hey. -[Matt] Well, what do you say?
With, um, all the kids I'm spending-- I'm redoubling my efforts to just sort of...
check in on them all as often as possible.
-Can you say hi? -Hey!
-He's a little grumpy. -Is he? Oh, are you grumpy today?
-[Tori] Can you say hi? -[Matt] Oh, you...
Let me hold him for one second.
How heavy is he?
-Is he more than I can handle? -[chuckles] I don't think so.
-Do you wanna go sit with Grandpa? -[Zach] He's pretty strong.
He's stronger than, like...
-I think Jackson or Lilah. -Yeah, he look-- Actually, he looks strong. Hey!
Josiah's starting to get very alert.
And he's becoming like a little human, and he's, um...
He's just healthy and looks...
You know, he just looks like he's ready to take on the world.
[Tori] We needed Grandpa to be here so we weren't so grumpy.
[chuckling]
[Zach] Pretty much all of my immediate family has met Josiah now.
My mom, my dad, and...
um, my siblings.
But we don't have plans for Caryn to meet Josiah.
But there still hasn't been any recognization from Caryn or my dad.
Like, they still think they did nothing wrong.
Which is like, I don't see how Caryn doesn't see this, like...
My dad put her in a situation also, where it's, like...
You got into family business, here.
You-- Family is always gonna be like...
It's gonna be different than when someone else rubs you the wrong way.
But I don't excuse my dad. Like-- I hold my dad responsible for...
that breakdown in that relationship.
[Matt] Coming up.
Oh, I'm sorry. I know this is hard for you.
My dad was getting more and more ill. And, um...
[tense music playing]
[upbeat music playing]
[Tori cheering]
[exclaims]
-[Mikey Witous exclaims] -[Zach laughing]
[Mikey] I couldn't not beat you.
Did you pull anything?
Yeah! But what was that?
-Who won? -I don't know.
[Zach] The Witous family, Mikey and Jess.
I've known them... for years. We played on the same...
uh, DAAA teams a couple times.
Their son is the same age as our son.
He's an LP as well.
So it's fun for Jackson to play with someone else who has achondroplasia.
And, um, it's kind of nice being able to talk to parents
that just might go through the same thing or are going through the same thing.
Jackson, Michael! Come here!
[Jess laughs]
-[Zach] Okay. -[Mikey] You guys are gonna have fun.
[Zach] Michael, are you ready?
-Set, go! -Go!
Go!
[energetic music playing]
[exclaims]
[Zach] That was pretty even!
When it comes to Jackson being different, I don't think he's caught on yet.
The older they get,
they're gonna start realizing that the world may be looks at them differently,
or that they are different.
He's unaware of who he is.
And next summer, it could be different.
And I think it's our job to protect their innocence
-as long as we possibly can. -Yeah.
This is, like, the last years our kids-- Before they become aware of who they are.
They can run down the beach and not think about, like, "Who's looking at me?
-Who's staring? Who's..." -Yeah.
"...making fun of my waddle feet, you know?"
I know.
The confidence to just, like, do whatever.
-[Zach] Yes. -Again, like--
You know... "I can do this, too. What do you mean, I can't do this?"
It's super sad when you do have such confidence in yourself,
and then, like, eventually, it'll catch on to him.
That's, like, part of the sad thing
of the transition of, like, being a dwarf, then recognizing, like,
you do have such-- "I belong here. I'm this, I'm that."
And then you slowly, like,
"Oh, wow, I'm being left behind."
And you can't catch up.
I went through it.
And, uh...
There's not really a one big moment I had
that I feel like, "Oh, wow, I'm-- I have dwarfism."
Uh, it's like little moments
that kind of cumulate.
But, yeah, like, do you remember...
-noticing the difference? -[Zach] Oh, yes.
-It's during the PE classes-- -It was--
I was just gonna say, I noticed it when I was playing soccer.
That the kids were bigger, and I was like...
Like, I knew I was a little person, but, like...
-It was like, "Okay." -I liked playing goalie.
-And then, like, eventually... -Yeah.
...the goals were just the cones,
-and then once we went to, like, goals... -Yeah.
-Like, I was just ushered out, you know? -[Jess] Yeah.
I don't think there's one way to prepare your kids to...
You know, take on the world
that thinks they're different.
Just instilling confidence and resilience in them.
When challenges come up, we'll definitely address them.
But that collision
of confidence and self-worth,
and then reality, is what hurts the most.
It's coming for him, so that's--
I-- It's coming for all my kids.
But until then,
let's give them a good life, and...
We don't want them to grow up too fast.
[mellow music playing]
[exhales audibly]
[Matt] Caryn and I, we're down in Arizona.
Um, 'cause my dad was getting more and more ill, and, um...
After putting up a very big fight
for several weeks, uh, he finally succumbed to his lung issues.
Um, and he passed away peacefully.
Very nice that all of your... kids
flew there to say their goodbyes.
That meant a lot to me. And I'm sure it meant a lot to him.
Towards the end, when we knew things looked more dire, I...
uh, notified everybody, all the kids.
And, um...
yeah, they all came in.
They...
said they all dropped everything.
When it mattered most, we can all
not get along for this, that, or the other thing, but when the-- When the...
crap hit the fan,
within hours, they were in my dad's-- By my dad's side.
All-- And all of them were able to be there.
Oh, I'm sorry. I know this is hard for you. He's gonna be missed for sure.
-[sniffles] -[Matt] Mmm-hmm.
Don't know if I told you this, but couple of days before he passed, he made some...
...private comments to me.
He wanted everybody to-- Everybody to love each other.
[gentle music playing]
One of the things my dad said in his final hours or days
was "I just want everybody in the family to get along."
You know, and I want the same thing.
And it's not just me and them, it's everybody.
So, all you can do is make sure
that you don't bring any additional negativity to the table.
Sometimes things just take time, you know, and...
I'm being respectful of the fact that Zach and Tori said they needed space.
But I'm gonna try to work constantly on making sure that the family gets along.
He always wanted everybody to get along.
Those were powerful words that I have embedded in my head.
So I got a lot of work to do.
[Matt] Coming up.
I-- I have to make a huge announcement.
You have got to be high.
I-- I can't see any of my kids doing that.
I-- I would gamble my life on it.
[upbeat music playing]
[Matt] I'm really kicking around my plan B.
Are you thinking about taking it off the market, then?
Maybe.
Well, the north side of the farm has been on sale-- You know, on the market,
for just a little over three months.
And, um, hasn't sold yet,
so, plan B...
is to do short-term rentals.
If it's done right, and it's successful,
it could keep the farm in the family for a really long time
-and still not-- -That's the big advantage. Yep.
To have that bringing in a little income to offset the expenses,
I could maybe keep ownership of the house indefinitely.
And that would mean it would stay in the family.
Are you gonna...
tell everybody about-- That you're switching gears, or you're just gonna do it, or...
No, I'm gonna tell everybody. I just-- You don't want to wait till it's official.
I mean, I'm still in the decision process.
I mean, I have no idea what their reaction might be.
I'm not worried about what everybody else think.
I'm gonna pivot. The house didn't sell.
The market is kind of sagging, so this could be the next step.
[Caryn] Always a big decision. [sighing]
[dynamic music playing]
[Tori] Hey, this is so cool!
How cool is this, Lilah, girl?
I'm glad that Zach and Tori,
you know, invited us and, you know, to join them on their camping trip.
I just really wanna have a good time.
[Zach] Look how slow Mom is.
-Oh, my God! [laughing] -Mom's so slow.
[shrieking and laughing]
Tori! Go away.
Mom's so-- Tori!
-[laughing] -[laughing] Tori.
-[Lilah crying] -[Zach] Tori.
[screams]
-[Zach chuckling] -[crying]
Tori did this little flick to Jackson and me, trying to get us wet,
so I took my paddle and just... Bam.
[Tori] 'Cause I just-- His-- His competitiveness
just gets so annoying, I just-- So over his--
There was a tidal wave just over them, and Lilah just...
-Her world-- -He's even competitive about how wet he got--
-I'm just like... -Her world ended that day.
-[Amy] Oh, yep. -[Lilah vocalizing]
-Hey, Lilah. -[Amy] Hang on.
[Tori] I love you. Good job!
[pleasant music playing]
[Amy] This is a perfect way to end summer.
Guys, we didn't even ask you. How did the opening, uh, weekend go at pumpkin season?
-It was cold. -Very, very light turnout.
-[Tori] Oh, really? -Yeah, really, really light.
But he checked, and it's, uh-- It wasn't just that farm,
a lot of the pumpkin farms are-- Are really down this year for some reason.
[Tori] That's a bummer.
-Yeah, yeah. -Are you gonna bring, uh, Jackson around in a costume?
[Zach] I'm not gonna go to pumpkin season.
[quiet music playing]
We're not going to go to pumpkin season this year.
I don't really wanna go. Tori doesn't wanna go.
My dad texted us that he's, uh, renting out the house as a short-term rental.
It's kind of ridiculous, honestly.
But a lot of it just doesn't make sense, you know.
So he won't see-- He won't, uh, be able to see Mimi, then, in costume.
Yeah.
I-- I just still think it's unbelievable, that...
one of the boys doesn't have it and-- I don't know, just...
doesn't sit too favorably with me
that the end result is this is what he's doing with the house that,
you know, was such a big part of raising kids in the family.
[man] Smile!
-All right. -Thank you very much.
Today was, uh, another great day at the pumpkin patch.
I mean, the weather was perfect.
All the guests were having a good time, and, uh,
everybody was enjoying themselves.
That's a pretty plant.
Yeah, that's why I got it for... our yard.
[Matt] Now that the day is winding down, I have a little bit of time
to show Chris and Amy the almost-completed, new-decorated farmhouse.
-Here we go. -[Caryn] Okay. Hello! I like the entrance.
Okay. Oh! Well, that looks like home.
[Caryn] I think this is-- This is a nice room. It's simple. It's...
-[Chris] It's cozy. -[Caryn] It's...
It's simple! It's farmhouse.
[Chris] Wow, the office looks good.
-[subdued music plays] -[Amy] It definitely was my home.
It's where I raised... our kids and there was family time,
where Matt did a lot, and--
It's just sad to see it
go to this point as a short-term rental.
-[Chris] You don't wanna go in the bedroom? -[Amy] No.
[Chris] Okay.
The farm will always have a special place in my heart.
My memories and everything else.
But, you know, seeing the house as a short rental...
This doesn't connect with me at all.
It... It was really like seeing something
that wasn't real.
It-- It just feels very strange.
I-- I have to make a huge announcement.
[suspenseful music playing]
Family can reserve it for no cost.
-Really? -[Matt] Yes.
-For-- -For who?
[Matt] Family. They-- They say family. So, we could have...
Jeremy and his family.
-Um, Chris and Amy could be-- -You have got to be high.
[Amy] I-- I can't see any of my kids doing that.
I-- I would gamble my life on it.
But it ain't gonna be any of the four kids.
I would be flabbergasted
if any of them do it.
You had texted the kids about opening this up.
Have you heard back from them?
No, I let them all know. I didn't-- But I didn't expect an answer. I--
Sent out a text. Did you--
I think I did a group text and-- Were you included?
I don't remember getting anything.
[Chris] I don't remember getting it.
I-- Well, I sent it to the kids that-- That it's gonna--
We're going to plan B.
Um, I don't think anybody cared.
-Um-- -[Amy] They don't wanna care, man.
-Yeah, they don't care. All right. -They don't wanna care.
-And I don't blame them. -[chuckling] Okay.
Some elements of the family are never going to agree with me
on the way I'm selling the farm or the way that the farm deal went down.
I just have to accept that and do the best that I can to keep everybody together.
Um, the best that I can.
All I can do as a father
and a grandfather is keep loving my kids and my grandkids,
um, and hope for the best.
All right. Well, let's hope it works soon.
-[Amy] We'll see. -[Matt] We'll see what happens.